The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Second Handshake

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Matthew Berry joins us via "the phone line" to discuss all things fantasy football. He covers how to get out of conversations with fans before they get too long, which celebrities pester him the most, his favorite round in a fantasy draft, and some of the best value players in this year's draft. He also introduces the crew to the concept of the guillotine league. Then, Amin has a question about how to pronounce foreign words and we hear the Suey Nominees for Best Dismissal! Plus, Billy and Jess dive into the new details on the billionaire boat accident, and David Samson joins the show to chat about evoking hipness, private equity in the NFL, Deion Sanders' relationship with the press, and his opinion on the Untold documentaries. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. All right, we'll go right now to the phone line. We've got the one and only. The phone line.

I love that resetting it, baby. Oh, wow, the phone line. 934 in a Monday morning. That is so good. 934, it's, what's that, 84 degrees outside, mostly cloudy, and we go to Matthew Berry. On the Miller Lite hotline. There it is.

Rocking with you on a Wednesday. And Matthew, we just went through our best laughs of the year. Do you have a good laugh or do you have what your friends would classify as a laugh that should be sent straight to hell? I think I'm somewhere in the middle. I definitely don't think I have a great laugh, but I'm also not one of those, you know, snort, you know, disgusting,

like what was that kind of Latin, somewhere in the middle, very mid I believe is what the kids say. Mid is almost bad now, you know, when you say something. Mid is bad. It's not even middle of the road, it's something less than to be desired. It's not like, listen, it's not a great laugh,

it's not one that I'm gonna sit here and be like, listen, listen, you know who's got a killer laugh? Like with two thumbs, this guy, like, you know, whatever. It's a laugh. It's a decent laugh. I don't know. If you say something funny, maybe we'll find out. We'll find out. Damn, now the pressure's on me.

Matthew, how many, how many drafts have you done already? How many drafts? Oh, not counting mock drafts, right? Like actual drafts? Actual drafts, yes. I think 20, 21, something like that. I'm not. Uh not kind of mock drafts right like actual draft actual drafts. Yes, I think twenty-twenty-one something

like that. I'm in the I'm in the middle of six or seven right now. I slow drafts. Alright. So how many mock drafts? I you know hundreds out of it but you know, I don't know way too many way too many do you ever do you ever get tired of it? Like do you wake up and you're just like, you know what?

I don't know. Like, no, no one asked me today, you know, Caleb Williams or Brock Purdy. See, now that's a different question. Stu gots like the the part that I don't get, um, I don't get

tired of like drafting, you know, that's always fun. Uh, I do get tired of like, yeah, there are moments where you're just sort of like, yeah, I don't know, man, figure out your own sleeper like, you know, like there yeah, there are moments where you're just sort of like, yeah, I don't know, man, figure out your own sleeper. Like, you know, like, there are, there are, there are times, there are times if I'm like, if I'm the two things that drive me

crazy are, and that's, that's excessive, but the two things that that are annoying sometimes are number one is, is like, if I'm like, if I'm out with my kids, or I'm trying to do something, there'll be times where like, whatever, like, I'm stuck in traffic, I get to the airport, I'm like, I got 10 minutes to catch my, you know, get to my gate and someone wants to take me through their dynasty team.

You know, it's April. It's April. And I'm like, dude, I, you know, like they're going to close the gate and I'm, you know, and I don't want to be rude here, but, you know, or like if I'm out with my kids or something like that, so that happens. Or the other thing I don't like is, is an open ended question, which is right. So,

you know, for those of us, ESPN alumni and john Swarovski, yeah, out of to the great john Swarovski and pointed questions, but like, I'll get like, well, who's a sleeper? And you're just like, I mean, you know, like, I've studied over 400 players at this point in my life, right? I mean, for this year, right, just for this year. So the idea of asking somebody like, hey, who's a sleeper? Is the question of me saying like, Hey, Stu gots, what do you want to eat? And

your your answer is gonna be like, well, is it is it breakfast? Is it dinner? Are we going to a nice restaurant? We go into a diner? We go into a, you know, diner? Are we getting something on the side of the road? Are we at a stadium? Like, you know what I mean? Like it's just, there's a zillion different ways to answer that question. And so, you know, give me a late round sleeper.

Give me a sleeper on the Giants. You know what I mean? Like give me a pointed question. That's what I always prefer. Matthew, I'll tell you right now. I got it. I have a simple formula for this. Everyone gets one question, right? One question, and then that's it. I'm out. Unless you're a bartender or a bouncer or someone, the general manager of a restaurant I want to get into,

then they get 15 minutes of show. Then they get that idea. I'll give them the full, the full bells and whistles. But like if you are a regular you are a regular bystander on the street, someone at the airport, and I don't have a flight to catch in 10 minutes, I will give you one question, I'll answer it, and then we keep it moving. And that has treated me well. I'm going to, I love that rule. I'm going to adopt that rule.

I feel like Stu Gotts and I talked about this at the Super Bowl, But the other rule is, and you know who, I'll shout out Gary Delabatte, you know, Baba Bowie from the Howard Stern show, is a friend. He gave me this rule, which I thought was really good too. Gary was always like the second, he's like the key is the second handshake.

And I'm like, really, the second handshake? And he goes, yeah, yeah, He goes, a fan will come up and they'll want to shake your hand so you shake their hand. And then to your point, maybe you do one question or whatever, they say whatever they want to say, you respond, you talk back, he goes,

and then you give them the second handshake. And he's like, nine, nine times out of a hundred, the second handshake is that indication, like, okay, hey, we've had our moment here and now it's time for me to go on with my life. And so I've always remembered that too, that that's a strong key is the second handshake. So yeah, you know, going forward, if you meet me,

you get one question and a second handshake and then we're done. Matthew, what would you say doing all these drafts that you've done is your favorite round? Is my favorite round? Yeah. I think the last couple of rounds, I mean, the first and second round are always fun.

No, no, no, no, no, Matthew, Matthew, just one though. You gotta pick a round. Oh, I mean, I don't know, 14, round 14, I guess. Wow, there it is. Same, same. You've got a defense kicker there. Well, no, I don't know, 14, round 14, I guess. Wow, there it is. Same value, defense kicker there. Well, no, I don't even do a kicker, but that's where I, in round 14, that's where my knowledge, you know, like, because at some point,

there's, you know, you're going through the, everyone's got, you know, ranks in the room and whatever, but I feel like the deeper you go, that's where my research, my knowledge, that's where that helps. So, Matthew, as I said, I give 15 minutes a show to bartenders and bouncers everywhere, but the other people I also give more time to

are my celebrity friends. Who is the celebrity friend who pesters you the most for fantasy advice? Oh, the pesters me the most. Maybe pesters, pesters is the main word. Yeah, I mean, they're all really, really good. You know, so like, I mean, there are people in my life that pester the hell out of me that just blow up my phone.

But no, there's no celebrity that pesters me the most. There's not one that I talk to like, you know, every single day or that kind of there's, you know, there's a bunch of them that I talk to once a week for their their lineup or they'll want to run a trade by me or like, you know, hey, I need a running back. Here's three that are in the waiver wire. Who do you like the most? That kind of stuff. But no one ever blows up my phone. So to your point, to your point, like if they do, I don't mind that.

Right. You know, they have my phone number for a reason, right? You know, it's my version of 15 minutes of show, as you said. So Jay Z is not hitting you up constantly like just. No, no. Jay doesn't even need that much. I mean, like Jay doesn't need that much help. Jay will ask me, like, will, you know, he'll the thing that I do most with him, I think, is sometimes it's like if he's got a trade, we'll just sort of talk through, you know, here's what

happens if you do this, here's what happens if you don't like, and you know, half the time I'll be like, I don't like the trade. He's like, I'm going to do it anyway. So whatever, you know, like, I love calling an expert and then saying, you know what, your advice, I got this. Well, let's be clear about this. You do not get to the level of success that he has had. Right. He is a multibillionaire.

He is, you know, he's an incredibly successful entrepreneur, singer, producer. I mean, you know, like you don't get to the level of success of him without being highly intelligent, very curious, and opinionated. You know what I mean? The other thing about him is that there's not an NFL player in the league that he can't text. Who's not taking his call? So sure, I'm one opinion for him, right?

But he's a very good player and he doesn't need a lot of help. All right, Matthew, you need to settle a furious debate we were having here behind the scenes yesterday. This is actually not fantasy related. I want you to just put your NFL expert hat on. One game for your life, all bias aside, no injuries, don't factor in injuries at all.

One game for your life, DJ Moore or Jalen Waddle? One game for my life, DJ Moore or Jalen Waddle? All bias aside. All bias aside. DJ Moore was his answer. DJ Moore. Thank you. Thank you.

Is it close? Yeah, I think so, but I mean, I think DJ Moore is just a more, they're both fantastic, but I think he's a more well-rounded wide receiver at this stage of his career. I think he's more scheme-proof, he's more quarterback-proof. So, I mean, you know, DJ Moore, Jalen Waddle's got the speed and I mean, they're both awesome, right? But like if but if we're playing along with this incredibly stupid premise Stupid okay now factoring injuries though now factor in the end and biases

If we're factoring biases, then it's Terry McLauren of my beloved Washington. Man, the scary. You're dead. Who do you have the most exposure to this year and all your drafts? Well, I have a ton of obviously Kyler Murray, who I announced as my as my fantasy football writer

die a lot, a lot of Kyler Murray, a lot of let's see in terms of in terms of running backs. I'm trying to think I, you know, in terms of the I like Ken Walker, a good amount. James Cook. I mean, look, if you just want to look at my, at my love hate, you know, that's that's basically because I those are all guys that I have above consensus. So I wind up with them quite a bit as well.

A lot of Deontay Johnson, who I think is just gonna get a massive target share. I have a decent amount of Rashid Rice. I will tell you this, I have a ton, a ton of Isaiah Pacheco, who I think is gonna have a monster year. A lot of Trey McBride this year at tight end. And I will tell you that almost every draft

I try to leave with Luke McCaffrey, which you're going to call me a homer. But at some point this year, Luke McCaffrey is going to be a thing. This is what I said last preseason. I said this about Tankdale. And people were like, really? And I said, I'm promising you at some point this season

Tankdale is going to be a thing. I believe, don't think he's going to have tanked out like year but I do believe at some point this year Luke McCaffrey is going to be a thing. I like Tyrone Tracy the backup running back in New York quite a bit as well. I like him as kind of a late round flyer and you know in two quarterback leagues a lot of Jaden Daniels as well. Again, my commander's homerism, but he's gonna run a ton. Jordan Love would be another guy that I think has a big year. Matthew, speaking of Luke McCaffrey,

there was two live drafts that I was at that they took the wrong sticker. Number one took Luke McCaffrey in two separate drafts because they just saw McCaffrey and they're like, oh yeah, that's it. And then it's like, wait a second, no, that's Luke. And then we had to start the whole draft over again. They should be stuck with them. Yeah, they should be stuck say you're nicer because I've been in I've been in leagues where they're like,

man, sticker sticker, you know, sticker plays, man, you know, sticker. Don't lie. You stuck it up there, dude. That's who you got. I had someone take it. I had someone take Glenn Gronkowski in one of my leagues once that way. Well, for a while there, this is going old school, but for a while there, there was a running back on the Bears named Adrian Peterson. No way.

That wasn't the Vikings Adrian Peterson. So there was actually another running back. It was like Adrian A. Peterson or something like that. Like he was a third string or practice squatter guy. But like I was in a draft or two where somebody took the wrong Adrian Peterson. Again, that's going, uh, you know, uh, back in the day. I have a, I have a question for you guys.

I know you guys are hardcore fantasy players here. Um, have you guys ever heard of and or done a guillotine league? Whoa. What's that? Never heard of it. I've never done it, But I wanna do it now. Okay, so I am, I wanna explain this concept to you, and I desperately want you guys to do it,

and I'll explain at the end why I want you guys to do it, but I think this would be amazing. So this is a guillotine league. You have a league like normal. You draft a team like normal. The difference is that you don't play head to head. So you just start a normal lineup. At the end of the week,

the team with the lowest score in the league gets cut. Yeah. Forever. I like that. Their season's over. I love that. Their season's over. You keep doing that until only one team remains.

Here's the other big twist. All the players on the team that got cut go back into the waiver. Wow. Wow. Wow. Oh no. So yeah, so it's like week six and like Chris McCaffrey and Patrick Mahomes

are on the waiver wire. Right. Well every week there's a whole new roster that's available on the waiver wire. I love this. Yes. And every, obviously every team has star players. The other fun thing about it is is that you can you can do two things.

Number one is obviously because you're not playing head to head, you can have uneven numbers. You can have a 13 person league, a 15 person league. As long as there is one more member in the league than weeks left in the season. Like right now, you could do an 18 person league. I'm in a bunch of 18 person guillotine league drafts right now. But like with four weeks left in the season, you could start a league

and there's five weeks left in the season. Oh yeah. When there's four weeks left in the season, you could start a five person league I mean. So it is, this is a format that just has, the last couple of years has just started really gained steam. And full disclosure, like Stu got,

I love this format so much. I discovered it disclosure like you got I love this format so much I discovered it three years ago I love this format so much I literally bought the company my my my I swear to God my fantasy life just a sound over you just a sound that we play don't worry about just you know just work right through it, man. Okay, great. Was that a look at me? Yeah, it was a look at me, Louis. I liked it so much I bought it. Look at me, Louis. Yeah, well, yeah, no, but I would argue that I don't know this is the full proper use of the

look at me, Louis. Again, I'm certainly not claiming to be an expert in Levitard and Sounders, but I would just say, this was just me trying to be full disclosure, so as people aren't like, oh yeah, Barry's pitching this thing because he owns it, he's got a piece of it. I was just trying to be more, that wasn't a brag, it was more of a like, hey, full disclosure. Right, you're telling us how much you like it. You liked it so much that you bought it. I understand.

Number wise though, how much did you like it? You're not in the client, you're also the president. Yeah, that's exactly right. It's a little bit of like the, if you remember the old Victor Cayenne, like I like the company so much. I'm just saying I put my money where my mouth is. That's all.

Billy, are you asking how much he purchased it for? I mean, if he wants to tell us. Yeah, I'm gonna, you know, whatever, whatever I paid for it was worth every penny. That's what I'll tell you. No, but listen, just I would. Here's why I really want Billy. This is why I really want you guys to do this, because you know what will happen if you guys do this.

If you guys do a league, the person in the league that will take it the most serious will be Stu got and the person that will be out week one will be Stu Gotts. Correct. It'll be like, half the league will like auto-draft it or whatever and like, you know, it's Stu Gotts, but it's incredibly fun and intense. And I highly recommend trying it. And so like, whatever, you can, whatever.

It's all, it's free to play it, it's guiteamleagues.com I'm getting a plug-in. We'll play it I want a piece of the company though okay done done exactly you want to be it's two guys you want to be an ambassador yes well we'll get to an ambassador deal yes please can we get this done all right yeah all right your people talk to my people I don't have people just tell them to call me okay yeah all right check out his podcast the fantasy football happy hour it's on Peacock and on the NFL on NBC YouTube channel what round did you get Jaden Daniels what round would you say is too early to take a quarterback Matthew what round is too early obviously

depends on your league like you're going to two quarterback league superflex league or is that a 10 10 person one quarterback league? Generally speaking, I think I don't want a quarterback before round four unless I'm in a superplex league. If I'm in a superplex league where you're playing two quarterbacks, take a quarterback in the first round. I have no problem with that, right? But otherwise I think fourth or fifth, somewhere in that four to seven range.

I think it's important this year to get a mobile quarterback. It's one of the reasons I like Jaden Daniels. But we've looked at it. And one of the reasons why I have CJ Stroud outside my top five. And everyone loves CJ Stroud. CJ Stroud is awesome. But since 2020, there have literally

been only two quarterbacks, only two quarterbacks in the NFL, that have rushed for less than 240 yards and have finished with a top five fantasy quarterback finish. And that was Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. And both those guys threw for over 4,300 yards and over 43 touchdowns. And so it's just like there's just a much more narrow path

to fantasy success if you only get points with your arm. And so that's why you see the Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Holmes. I have Kyler Murray at five. Why you see these mobile quarterbacks going early and why I would, if I don't get one of those mobile quarterbacks, Anthony Richardson's on that list as well, then I would rather, I'd prefer to wait for a Jordan Love

or a Jane Daniels that you can get in the, you know, nine to 11 range of quarterback, rather than somebody who's more of a pure pocket passer like a Stroud or a Burrow, who go three to four rounds earlier than those later guys. All right, the podcast is Fantasy Football Happy Hours on Peacock and on the NFL on NBC YouTube channel, and the website is guillotineleagueswithanessattheend.com.

Matthew Barry. I'm part owner. There you go. Ambassador Stu Gotz.com. Matthew Berry. I'm part owner. There you go. Ambassador Stu Gotz. Thank you, Matthew. Ambassador Stu Gotz. Hey, I appreciate you guys.

It was always fun. Thanks, Matt. Howdy, listeners. It's Mike Ryan. The Dan LeBattard Show started September 1st, 2004. It's a long time ago, 20 years, in fact. A lot has changed over that 20 years. But for most of that 20 years, we've had MillerLite

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count the entire game and they were clapping at the line of scrimmage. And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks In my face my shirt. All right, so that's one thing Stugats. They're a bunch of cheaters Dan and you know who should be cheating Mrs. Met on mr. Met and he can watch if he wants. This is the Don LeBattar show with the Stugats I realized you're probably the worst person I can talk to about this. All right. Thank you. Pronouncing foreign words correctly.

Yeah, tough. I was watching the Bill Lawrence show that Billy mentioned earlier, Bad Monkey, with Vince Vaughn. And it's a very funny show. It's a murder mystery as well. So I love those. And in the show, he's drinking on some rum and his partner, you know, Vince Vaughn plays a cop, his partner walks up and says the name of the rum, it's a Haitian rum.

The character calls it Barbon Court, but I was introduced to this rum through my roommate who is Haitian and is a fan of the show Carl, Carl Klammer. And Carl was the first one introduced me to this when we were in college and he and he pronounces it Babancur. Babancur, if I'm going to be really precise. And so it brought back all these feelings of, am I an asshole when I see it at a bar and I don't call it bar-ven-court? Or should I pronounce it basically like an asshole,

Babancourt, or should I pronounce it like an idiot? Bar-ven-court. And I run into this all the time. As I said, Stugats, I don't think you have the same sort of dilemma in your life. I just get to hang around in tonics, that's it. Are you with Carl? As I said to God's I don't think you have the same sort of dilemma I just get to hang around in tonics. That's it. There you go. Are you with Carl? No Like when I'm ordering these drinks, yeah, but you've been given the knowledge though I've been given the now so now you can't go back and stray from the knowledge you've been given so full disclosure

I've been wanting to talk about this for weeks before even that episode bad monkey happened The reason why I came up with the topic about this for weeks before even that episode, Bad Monkey happened. The reason why I came up with the topic was because I was on a flight and there was a white lady, like a very, very clearly white lady who was talking to someone sitting next to her and she was like, oh, I love Columbia.

My favorite place to go is Medellin. And she said it like super, yeah, super flavorful. But like I could tell she's just a run-of-the-mill white lady. This isn't a a a native who appears to be regular Caucasian. This is as Caucasian as Caucasian gets. And she was just flourishing her language and I said to myself, what an asshole. But then I thought to myself, is she supposed to say it wrong? Then you sound like an idiot. So what do you do? You can't stray from the good light. I think French words in particular

are difficult to know when to pronounce them because there are so many, like, should I say, should I order a croissant? Right. Or a croissant, right? I don't know, I mean, because we had this whole conversation with you around the Men's World Cup that was in Qatar, because there was a lot of disagreement

about how to pronounce that word, and I feel like you were on the other side of it, in that case. Yeah, it's Qatar. Look, it's Qatar. If I'm gonna do it really right, but you guys can't make those noises. But that makes me wanna punch you in the face

when you do it that way. Exactly, exactly. Pardon me, waiter, I will have the filet mignon. Mignan. You pronounce half of it, okay, maybe that's what you do. Pronounce half of it wrong and half of it right. There you go. It just, I- Just sound like an asshole is really all you-

I'd probably order something else just to avoid the situation entirely, to be honest with you. Like, Sougat's, something easier. Yeah, something easy to pronounce, yeah. Or you can point at it, at the menu, and be like, this one right here let me get this and they're like oh excellent choice. My dad is obnoxious with that whenever we go to like a Thai restaurant or Italian restaurant like he has to always do it in the like how it would be said. Of course yes.

But that's like not really it's kind of offensive in today. So your dad stopped caring. I mean here here's a great example. In tennis, the top three players in the world, number one is, we talked about him yesterday, Jannik Center, even though it's spelled with a J. We all say Jannik Center, right? Number two is Novak Djokovic. Even though it ends with a C, we say Novak Djokovic. Number three, Stugats, is from Spain, what's his name? Oh, Carlos Alcaraz. Alcaraz. Nah, see, I don't like that.

Mike does that all the time. I hate it. Carlos Alcaraz. Do you hate it because Mike does it, or do you hate it? You're showing off. I mean, it's Carlos Alcaraz. I mean, that's what it is. It's Novak Djokovic.

What's the name of your rum? Bob and Coor. It's Bob and Coor. I just call it the Coor. Just give your rum? Bob and Coor. It's Bob and Coor. And just call it the Coor. Just give me a glass of the Coor. That's what you do. I mean, and say, listen, the people who really love it, we just call it the Coor.

What do you mean by that? You just point to the bottle of rum. Oh, there you go. That's the move. To give things your own nickname, right? Yes. Kind of like, what is that? George W. Bush used to do that, right?

He couldn't remember names, so he just gave people nicknames. Hey, Pirate's Hat! Or like, Tim Apple. He knows me! Tim Apple. That's one of my favorites. Oh, good times.

Barbing Corp. Barbing Corp. BBC. Whoa. What happened? Take it easy. Billy, I've seen you and Jessica talk about this a lot. And I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

The BBC? Close, actually it's the BBS. So you've heard them talk, you've watched them talk, but you haven't heard what it is they're saying? It was on mute. I don't pay attention. What are we talking about? We're talking about the BBS.

The billionaire boat saga. Oh. You know what? I was with one of my friends who's from the UK. He was in town for some F1 thing, and we got drinks with him the other night. And so apparently the billionaire. He had some warm beer.

Yes. The billionaire who died in this yacht accident, he has been dubbed as the British Bill Gates. And so I asked my friend, I was like, hey, have you heard about this yacht thing, like this billionaire guy? Is he sort of a celebrity? And he was like, no, I've never heard of him before.

I have no idea what you're talking about. And I was like, I feel like I've been lied to now. Really? Yes, I do. Unknown, huh? He was like, I don't even know. Amongst his own people like I don't even know I'm like you guys don't like celebrate your billionaires in the UK and like turn them into celebrities They do just one family though

No one could be bigger than that fan. Oh, it's so dumb such a dumb thing. I like how dare they ever speak ill of us Right like oh, don't get me started on that. Just because of the royal family? Yeah, like, you guys worship, you give these people your tax money to just live in a big house and travel and be rich. Like, willingly, you cried when, oh, get out of here. Get out of here. Stop sitting down with Oprah, too.

Oprah, leave them alone. You should like them, they're the ones that defected. I don't care. They defected. Oh, oh, they poor defected, got $500 million to defect. Oh my God, we should feel sorry for them. Oh, Meghan Markle.

Jeez. Hmm. Trying to win a suey here? What's going on? What is happening here? I kinda, in the middle, I was like, oh, that's dismissal. All right, but anyways, back to the billionaire boat saga.

Billy, that was a tongue twister. Billy, we've been texting back and forth about it. Tuxting. Tuxting. And what I found difficult is that I've tried to like, I've tried to understand boat physics. Science, yeah. Boat science, and I don't.

Because there's some people that are saying, a boat this big should never be able to sink that fast. And then there's other people that are like, yeah, actually, it could happen. The boat might not have just been that seaworthy. I don't know who to believe. I think the problem is that the boat physicists that are being turned to are on TikTok.

So you don't actually know their level of expertise on boat physics. Here's, for those of you who are not familiar with the story. Yeah, I know, but Stugatsa doesn't physics. Here's for those of you who are not familiar with the story. For those of you who are not familiar with the story. So this is what happened. A billionaire, his boat was capsized and then there were five or six people that went missing.

And it was kind of a mystery how did this happen. Stugatsa immediately said something's up. This is fishy. That's what he said, inside job. He said there's no way that this just happened. A billionaire's boat goes out there and all of a sudden the billionaire is missing something's up and at the time we didn't know because we didn't do any research because apparently this guy's a secret billionaire even amongst his own people. The more research

we did the more we found out oh this person was like in some crazy lawsuit and had a co-conspirator that was involved and then they got off not too long ago after I think a lengthy trial spanned over years, whatever, the co-conspirator got hit by a car while going for a run the day before or a couple days before. So then we said, okay, seems like something might actually be up here

because why would this person get hit by a car on a run and now this other billionaire has disappeared? So it turns out a water spout hit this boat, which doesn't seem like something you could fabricate, a water spout just coming out of nowhere and hitting this boat. How could you create bad weather, right? But only this one boat got hit and other people

that were on this boat that went missing were also described as quote unquote bad people. And I think children passed away as well, unfortunately. So in the days that have been sued since, we've found out that they found a number of the bodies of the missing, I believe including the billionaire, has been found and passed away. But the question remains, how did this boat sink?

Because as Jess has pointed out, a lot of the boat physicists out there have pointed out, this should not have happened this way. This boat should not have just capsized because basically a water spout hit it, literally like essentially a water tornado hit this boat and then all of a sudden just flipped over and then these people disappeared.

But there's counterweights, there's all kinds of things that go into these mega yachts that should prevent this from ever happening. And Billy, to your point, I asked boat people, I was in Key West this weekend for the barbecue cook-off with Roy, ate a lot of ribs and talked a lot of barbecue shop but also boat shop and I talked to some boat people and that is, there's no consensus.

Some boat people are like, yeah, boat should not sink. Boat that big should not sink that fast. Yeah, but- And other boat people were like, yeah, like some of these boats just aren't made well. Here's what happens though. Who am I supposed to believe? When you don't know what's going on,

you go to the TikTok. And you know what the TikTok tells you may have been involved? Submarines could have been involved in this situation. Which you're like, whoa, game changer. I thought you would like this. So then there's the question of who did this, why did this happen?

Were submarines involved? Then another theory that came out was like, well, submarines probably impractical, but what if someone was drilling holes in the boat? And then the question becomes, were they drilling from the inside or the outside? Inside job. Inside job. Or outside job that was an inside job. The rare. All the jobs. When you're hiring for your small business, you want to find quality professionals that are right for the role. That's why you have to check out LinkedIn Jobs. LinkedIn Jobs has the tools to help find the right professionals for your team.

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You know, there's a lot going on with that water spout, but I've been speaking to some people. Oh, wow. I got some info here. Here's the status. There is virtually no way that a water spout turned up out of nowhere and took down this yacht. Now, I say that knowing that somebody wins

the lottery sometimes. So there's a scintilla of a chance like being hit by lightning. But the odds are way better, and I'm not this major conspiracy theorist, but the odds are way better that somebody pulled the drain plug as though they were in a bathtub.

When you say you've been talking to someone, do you mean someone named T. Talk? Is that who you've been talking to? I'm talking about T period M period Z period. But they were wrong about Beyonce performing at the DNC. They've been wrong forever now. Yeah I don't know how credible they are anymore. It's so terrible. I was watching that night of the DNC and people were saying who I was with. It could be, it's gonna be Taylor Swift. I said, no, it's not.

There is no way that her handlers are going to have her appear at the convention. It's just not gonna happen. All right, it could be, what if it's a major Republican who's gonna come out as a Democrat? This is gonna be an unbelievable glued to the TV minutes Hours and you realize it was nothing. I was despondent because what a waste of time It was little John right? I had no idea Samson was part of the beehive. I mean

I'm just trying to stay hip and it's really hard as the years and decades pass to try to evoke hipness and so I do what I can. What do you think happened to that boat then David? I think that, listen strange things happen. Is it possible the waterspout came out of nowhere and took down that yacht with those people on it? Yeah, but there were some people on there that there were some other people it's sort of like a what's the name a John Grisha? Movie like the firm. Mm-hmm

I kept thinking about that the murders that took place on that Caribbean island with Gene Hackman and Tom Cruise And how weird stuff happened when they were out scuba diving and that may be a movie that none of you know I love it. Yeah know the Cayman Islands of course yeah the Cayman Islands of course that's sort of what I envisioned was going on is there was some nefarious stuff because I want video I want to see what the yacht looks like 150 feet below but by the way it's a tragedy that the daughter died and that anyone died it's that's got to be just a shitty way to go. David, the NFL owners meetings were yesterday and the owners

voted to allow private equity to have a stake in NFL teams. I think it's up to 10%. What does this mean for the NFL? Well, this means that your favorite owner is going to take some money off the table and buy some yachts or Picasso's or other. It's about exactly. Believe me, the way NFL teams are worth now, the way they're valued, these guys can buy

their own water spouts and if they can't, they'll manufacture them crazy. And it's a pretty big deal. We cover it on the sporting class. Skipper, Pablo and I talked about it, nothing personal today. And let me just give you the summary. Basically, the NFL is following the lead of the other leagues who have allowed

these private equity firms, which is just like a pool of money. Stu, God's pretend that you invested money with your friend who took everybody's money and then went out to try to buy parts of different companies. But you've never been able to buy an NFL team before as an investment. Now it's allowed.

And the reason why the NFL is allowing it is because the teams are worth so much that there's a limit. Contrary to what many people think at the DNC, there's a limit to the number of billionaires who can write a check to be a limited partner for an NFL team. So now this allows a group of people to put money in a fund and have that fund become an investor. Very common with leagues all around the world, actually. So David, explain to me what the downside was. Why was there a rule against this? Because there was a view, there was a rule in the NFL that in order to be an

owner, you had to be a natural person, not an entity. And it made sense when the teams were worth less. You certainly want a person as the face of the ownership of the franchise, which is why you have something called the control person. So it's someone you can root against. It's someone you could boo. It's someone the control person. So it's someone you can root against. It's someone you could boo. It's someone you can protest against or it's someone you can love. It's someone to thank the fans when you win a title, holding the trophy,

getting it for the first time. And the view was we need someone in our league who represents the team at meetings, who can be a part of votes, who can be a part of negotiating CBAs. We don't want to think about dealing with an entity. But then the numbers got so big that all of these teams had a bunch of limited partners. And the rule was limited partners had to be people too. And then the leagues realized, wait a minute,

we can access way more money, which means teams can be worth way more. All we have to do is agree that it can be an entity. And there are certain teams, as you guys know, the Blue Jays, the Packers, the Braves are publicly owned, but there's someone who's assigned to be the face of that franchise. And so really nothing's going to change. So there's nothing like nefarious, right? Like, that's what I got.

The NBA allowed this a couple of years ago. I believe the first example. This was the cuttary fund bought into the Washington Wizards a small percentage and I just I was under the impression that When that rule was basically lifted and it is the same thing It's like 10% is the max that you can buy into. There's this, oh, we've lost our innocence sort of thing, but it just sounds like, hey, here's some money. Just take it and you don't have to worry about this entity being vocal in terms of a meaningful governorship method.

Yeah, and you're talking about two things which are interesting that you're marrying, and you're talking about two things which are interesting that you're marrying and you're talking about Sovereign funds and foreign investment and that's the Qatari fund is what invested in monumental sports which owns the Wizards Of course the interesting thing is that a lot of these private equity funds in the NFL approved a group of only eight funds But there is foreign money in these funds so if you really wanna be technical and you're really bored and you're trying to just protest

for the sake of protesting, you could say, look, my favorite league now is going to allow foreign investment as they try to sports launder and cover up all of the things they do against men, women, and children. And I get it, these foreign investment funds are sports laundering. They are trying to cover up the fact that they do against men, women, and children. And I get it, these foreign investment funds are sports laundering, they are trying to cover up the fact that they do things that are unspeakable.

However, that's sort of the cost of doing business these days, and all these leagues and all of these individuals have just sort of gotten past it and realized that the amount of money available is simply too great to be ignored. David, one of the things that happened over the last week was Dion Sanders and the University of Colorado basically banning the Denver Post columnist

who they felt- Banning him from asking questions. From asking questions, which is a weird, I don't know. The whole thing is weird. Yeah. It's unacceptable. So unacceptable. Agreed. But whose place is it to say, no, no, you can't do this?

Is it the AD? Is it the university president? Is there a higher authority somewhere that needs to be saying this? Yeah, I'll give you a higher authority. His name is Dion Sanders. Can you imagine that in Dion Sanders Sanders contract, there is a provision that says he has the right to agree which media members he talks to.

I've never heard of such a thing in all the contracts I've signed with managers, with coaches, with executives, the thought of them thinking they have the power to choose who to silence and who not to. Do you know how many media members I didn't like because they were mean to me or they were personal or they hated the Marlins? And we had a guy actually in Miami. Do you remember Mike Berardino?

Of course, yes. Mike Berardino is an absolute A hat. And he did stories about us that were so horrible that we did a silent ban of him where I didn't talk to him and we made sure that the GMs didn't talk to him. But we definitely weren't gonna be very public. We'd be off the record.

We'd say, by the way, we're never talking to that guy because of how unfair he is. This Denver Post columnist, he had some nicknames for Deon Sanders. He's tough on Deon Sanders. A hat question about it. You don't do you know what an A hat is? That another old word? I assume it's an ass. I know what an ass is, but I don't know what an A hat is. It's I just didn't want to say ass. You said shit earlier. Captain A hat. Captain A hat. May have sunk the yacht. Too soon, David.

Full circle. Bringing it full circle. I just can't imagine the Colorado, the AD, how desperate they were that they signed a contract that allows that. I can't imagine they went public with the fact that they were doing it. I think it's inexcusable.

If I am the Denver Post, I am not writing one column inch about the Colorado Buffaloes, not one inch. If I am other members of the media around Denver, let Colorado basically suck it all the way to the side with no press at all. Make Dion speak into the abyss of nothing. Because I just think that-

But David, you know that's not gonna happen. Because Colorado gets too many clicks. It just does. But David, don't you think the move is to, okay, like, look, the guy's not gonna get quotes from Dion or anyone on the staff. All right, so now I have, instead of me being able to get the other side, I get to go full bias,

the way you think I really am, and just roast, because he's a columnist, he's not a beat writer. So he gets to roast Colorado even harder now, doesn't he? He could, I mean, it depends what the editor wants, but yes, of course he could, but then it becomes personal, and then you lose credibility as a columnist.

The whole purpose of being a columnist is that your readers look and say, wow, this is a thoughtful approach to the subject matter. And if he is just going after Dion for the sake of going after him, that eventually will turn people off. You need sort of facts behind it and even some circumstances. So I don't think that he would do that, nor do I think the Denver Post as a publication would want him to do that.

I just don't agree with the ability of Dion him to do that. I just don't agree with the ability of Deon Sanders to do that. However, the other side is interesting, which is he has the contractual right to do what he did, so we shouldn't be upset with him. It's like being upset with players for signing bad contracts, be upset with the owners who agreed to them,

not the players who took the money. What movie are you reviewing for us this week, David? So you guys already talked about it today. But it was on the list that I sent, so now I don't know what to do, but I watched the told story about the murder of Ayr McNair. And I'm not gonna in any way impugn Netflix,

nor the way it looks on my TV. That said, this wasn't very good. I didn't learn anything. I don't expect anyone to watch it. I did a non-scientific poll of people not in my demographic. I went to five, I moved my son into college this weekend. Oh, congratulations. Did you cry?

And went out, it's the final time, final kid, final year. Final cry? It's the what? The final cry. Did you cry? He didn't cry. Did you cry? I don't think he cries.

No, I felt nothing actually. Jeez! Have you ever cried? Ever, ever. You leak oil, what happens to you? Bridges of Madison County. Ah, great movie. I cried when she held onto the handle.

Meryl Streep, obviously one of the best actresses of all time, when she holds onto that. Movies make you cry. I listen to the show, Stu. Right, but not his family. Yeah, not his family, but movies make you cry. Listen, I've been working on this, spending tens of thousands of hours

trying to figure out why commercials, why mean Joe Green gets a tear in my eye and dropping off a child that college does not. And all I'm saying is, I don't have an answer for you. The answer's a new therapist. I've gone through so many. I don't think I guess. Ten thousand hours.

You should be an expert according to Gladwell. So here's the thing about Steve McNair. None of the 22 year old seniors in college. They didn't know who he was. Yeah, I asked about the Super Bowl because I thought everyone knew about the yard short Rams victory over the Titans and it turns out it happened before he was born them Yeah, now I feel old and that confused me and then I did the math and I realized oh, yeah

You were born the year the Marlins won the World Series and this was three years prior to that. Oh god So to me, it's like someone asking me. Do you remember the play from the? 1965 Super Bowl my answer would be I don't even know who played in the 1965 Super Bowl So, of course they wouldn't know and this documentary did nothing that would even garner anybody's interest in the murder. Here's what happened. Married. Affair. Oh my god. Girl goes crazy, shoots him, kills herself. Story at 11. It's like a Tuesday. If they rename the series Re-Told, do you think that you'd have a different perspective on it?

Because to Jeremy's point, maybe their target audience are people that don't actually know the stories to begin with and they're just sort of rehashing things that most sports fans are already aware of. But by naming it Untold, they're implying that they're doing like additional reporting that I have not found to be true in any of these. Well, there's definitely no additional reporting and my thing is that if there's a documentary

that has a running time below 60 minutes I have the feeling that there's nothing good happening now There are great shorts, but this is sort of the tweener and I think that if I think it has to be 80 minutes or more If to for someone to say hey, this is gonna go deep This is gonna give you information you didn't have or this is a compelling story And I just don't view the Steve McNair story as compelling. I didn't when I first knew about it and I certainly didn't after this document. There was no Super Bowl in 1965.

Know your Super Bowls, David. Thank you, David Sampson. Nothing personal with David Sampson. NFL championship. When you're hiring for your small business, you want to find quality professionals that are right for the role. That's why you have to check out LinkedIn Jobs. LinkedIn Jobs has the tools to help find the right professionals for your team, faster

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