The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Story of Four Jasons (feat. Jake 'The Snake' Plummer)

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

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Cuervo. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan LeBattard Show with Stu Gotz is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I wanna do a quick callback to yesterday's show.

Roy did a great job, dressed as a hockey player, the whole show, fully in uniform, pads and everything, skates, the socks, the tape, fully in uniform pads and everything skates look great the socks the tape like fully in uniform the entire show and then afterwards he's like oh I gotta go pick up my daughter I gotta go into the hockey rink we're gonna do a little like he's trying to play hockey right so you want it I'm so nervous for you so he's like I'm gonna kill two birds here like I'm gonna go play hockey right now hold on wait a second wait a second so there was a hockey pickup game no it wasn't a pickup game No, what it's called stick and puck where you can go out there and you can practice and do some open play

Can I be confused with stick and pick right exactly? So I got a tweet yesterday and pucks just like a random tweet from a guy being like hey Just saw Roy Bellamy walking into the practice facility in the full uniform Oh, did you which implies that Roy and he said he had to pick up his daughter. Roy went, picked up his daughter, and then drove in full uniform. I mean, clearly couldn't have been driving with the skates on. No. So maybe the skates came off, but other than that, did you have the helmet on for the entire

drive? No, it was in my hockey bag. What happened was, apparently, a little bit after the show, Anita told me that I had to pick up Claire. I was going to go straight from here to the World Memorial. The visual, did you, is this car line pickup? No. Damn, you had to get out? I had to get out.

I had to walk to the front. No, Roy, that's not true. Stop. That is very much true. Did you put the mask back on so people wouldn't actually see your face? No. No.

Did you put sneakers on? What kind of response did you get? Yeah, I got my Jordan's on right now. I wore my Jordan's. So you had like, did you feel the need to explain it? No. No. Did anybody ask you any questions,

or was it just understood this man is a hockey player? Oh, you know what, one person, my friend Alina, who goes to my church, she asked me, did you go to work today? No. She thinks that that's what you do? I knew you worked in sports, but I didn't know it was this literal.

Yeah, I said, yeah. What it is is she's like, Roy works at a crazy person's place where they make him dress up and do wild stuff. So he could have been dressed as anything. He could have been dressed as a dragon. What happened was they brought in this seven foot English guy and he told me I had to wear this costume. and do wild stuff. So she's, he could've been dressed as anything. He could've been dressed as a dragon. And like, you go work. What happened was, they brought in this seven foot English guy,

and he told me I had to wear this costume, and here I am. Six eight, don't give him that much. Oh, sorry. All right. Oh. Ha ha ha ha. By the way, the ad that Dan did for the watch along.

With Foot Foot. Yeah, Foot Foot. That's what I wanna get to. The cat's name is Foot Foot. That's right. Look, even I think that's lame as fuck. Come on, man. Yeah, foot foot. That's what I want to get to. The cat's name is foot foot. That's right. Look, even I think that's lame as fuck. Come on, man. Wow.

And now, Chris, imagine you could talk to animals. What do you think foot foot's saying right there in that video? I think foot foot's saying, Dan, it's not 420 quite yet. Why was he wearing sunglasses? It's like Doc, it's just so right, you are fat. Foot foot's like, I don't want wanna have anything to do with this, right?

And that's, dude, if you could talk to animals, I'm telling you, most of the time, you're gonna get this, right? You're gonna get like an animal saying, leave me alone. Yeah, especially cats. Look at that cat. That cat's saying, leave me alone. What a terrible choice, wanting to talk to animals.

No, you guys are off on this. I'm just saying. You're still gonna do this? No, no, no, based off of the social media, you guys are outnumbered by the way. Okay, because we're the only ones that are smart. I'm just saying, I saw, I was looking, scrolling through comments, way more people

writing animals in the comments than writing animals. But here's the thing, I'm pretty sure, like, take me back in time, like, have me talk to, or go to the future after I've already talked to animals. I'm pretty sure I can tell you before I learn to talk to them what they're already saying, man. You've already picked it. You wasted it.

You wasted your genie wish. Learning, first of all, this is the thing that someone brought up yesterday, I wish I had remembered it during the show. Talking to animals, animals are dumb. Like most animals, some of them are smart. But we assume that. No, no.

I think we know that. I think there's some depth there. Science eat their own shit. Yeah, like they're dumb. No, they smell it. No, they roll in it. It's different. I remember reading this thing where the guy was talking about

if you could talk to like a lion, you wouldn't even understand. Even if you guys understood the language, you still wouldn't understand because the lion is like. Food, me, death. Not, yeah, just like, it would be random things. It would just be random stuff.

And you're like, what the hell are you talking about? And like, be honest with yourself. And this, maybe this room is not the, people would do this with, be honest with yourself. If you are, like when are you more curious? When you're sitting there thinking, man, I wonder what my dog thinks when I leave the house or I wonder what this nail tech is saying about me

I before she starts cracking up. I want to know what she's saying Like I said this room is probably not the best room No, no, no, no, I knew exactly Roy's hands always look manicured Not today. I need to snip them. You do that yourself, huh? Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna go to a salon. You could. I get a pedicure. Why not, Roy? I don't know. It's just not in me.

I don't do manicures, as you can tell. Every once in a while I go get a pedicure. It's nice. What, you like a foot rub? I just relax. You like a little foot rub? I don't like people messing around down there. Really? Hey now. Not on my feet. There's just a lot of like... Like a little foot rub. Mm-hmm. I don't like people messing around down there really Not on my feet. There's just a lot of like you going to it's just you know, I Once kicked my aunt in the nose because she accidentally like messed with my foot and I didn't know what was happening What and got her right in the nose and it's just like I don't know what's gonna happen when I love it

I'm in there Challenge oh I love it. Get in there. Get in there. It's a challenge. Oh man. Oh no. They just, okay.

Oh man. But that's kind of close to what it's gonna look like in like 30 years, right? That's why I'm going to get a pedicure. That really? I'm just like, I've seen my dad's feet. You wanna hold that? And I'm like, we gotta.

Why are we doing this? Get this off the screen. Yeah, get off the screen, but I do wanna say this. The generation before us, like my dad, your dad, what did they do? Did they, like, were they just walking barefoot, kicking boulders? But wait, that's not as bad as LeBron James' foot.

Oh man, LeBron. Let's not do that. No, no, do not put that on the screen. We don't have to put it up, but when you compare, it's like, hey, Greg Cody, not that bad. How does he, how is LeBron not in pain with that? Right? I've seen that, like, that is.

First of all, his foot's like a loaf of bread. The big toe's like, the big toe's like swept underneath his foot. Like it's dislocated. His foot is like a loaf of all, his foot's like a loaf of bread. The big toe's like, the big toe's like swept underneath his foot. Like it's dislocated. His foot is like a loaf of bread, and then the toes aren't, they're just like hovering. This is actually a good version of it. I've seen a way worse version of it.

Yes, recently, from the Lake O'Loughlin. This is back when he was still in Miami. This is as clean of one as we're gonna see though. It doesn't look like a pinky toe as much as it looks like a wart. His big toe nail is Greg Cody's status almost at this point. It's like totally, it looks way worse than that. I'm about to throw up.

All right guys. We just, you're right. Like how is he not in pain all the time? Greatest athletes we've ever seen. That's great. Exactly. And then I started thinking about it. What if that's a secret?

What if the secret to what if my dad was a great athlete? Like he talks about it and I never believe him. He's like, yeah, I ran track in college and I'm like, okay. Because I played soccer with him and I'm like, yeah, I don't know, I don't know. But I also played with him when he was an old man. So maybe when he was young, maybe when he was young, he was like an incredible athlete.

And the secret was his feet were awful. I have amazing feet. I've been complimenting my feet many a time, right? Do not, don't show. No, I'm not gonna do that. Thank you. Dan's not here, we're not gonna. That's under show.

Wait, so this is like a boomerang thing where you're like, someone's gonna pull up the covers and see your feet and be like, ah, this one's a keeper. I mean, yeah, kind of, man. You've been complimented multiple times. Multiple times. And not in any situation where I thought a compliment was forthcoming.

Like I'm just hanging out and like, yo, my feet and my hands, apparently I have really good hands, I'll show you guys my hands. They generally run hand in hand, no pun intended. There you go, one hand and foot. If it's rare that you have like, your feet are just gross and you have these beautiful hands.

Generally I think they're on the same page. What do LeBron's hands look like? Let's see these bad boys. Not like that. Let's look up LeBron's hands. But I think they're on the same page. What do LeBron's hands look like? Let's see these bad boys. Not like that. Let's look up LeBron's hands. But, I just like this, are we, any other professions where your tool that you use gets, like a singer is like the inside of their throat, like,

what? No, keep going. I'm just saying, like, what other professions, like a cook, like they, you get these calluses on your hand, like, what other professions do you see this, like you get these calluses on your hand, like what other profession do you see this with LeBron's feet? Adele, this happened to Adele, right? Where if you're singing improperly

or you don't have like, you have this type of wear and tear on your voice where you can develop nodes on your vocal cords, and so in turn, you can't sing, you need to go on vocal rest. But you can't see that though, That's inside. You can't see it Which is fair. It's not like you're all of a sudden you get like swollen or anything like that I have like a last kind of like growth it is different, but it is through using your instrument It can be wear and tear. This is LeBron's hands

Not bad. Nice actually nice hands. Was he boxing there? What boxing there was this is what for a box This is after was this when he broke his hand, but he didn't let us know until after the finals Yeah, this is the GR Smith finals right those hands are fine. Although the pinky you can see the resemblance to the Can we zoom in get zoom in on that pinky please yeah, yeah from the same body yeah Yeah, yeah a little extra arch to it. Yeah, what's happening there? It got a little extra arch to it for some reason. Yeah, what's happening there. It's a little hunchback of Notre Dame going on there. That's why he's not like a 45% three-point shooter. There you go.

That's what I always say. My pinky finger, if it wasn't. What's happening right now? Yeah, this is cool. I like this arts and crafts part, especially for the listeners, the ones who can't see what we're doing. What we're having is a copy and paste and then zooming. And now it's almost psychedelic, the ones who can't see what we're doing. What we're having is a copy and paste and then zooming

and now it's almost psychedelic, the way I'm looking at all these LeBron fingers coming at me, bro. Well luckily, soon we will have someone who's an expert on psychedelics. Really? Jake Plummer. I also have a list here of other names

that can note professions. Oh. We're saving that for Jake, right? We can save it for him if you'd like. Cool, yeah, Jake the Snake. Wow, we're saving that for Jake. We can save it for him if you'd like. Cool, yeah. Jake the Snake. Wow, he's a plumber, right? Jake Plumber, but his nickname is also a tool

that you use as a plumber. Yeah. That's why, that's why they call him the Snake. Really? I feel like Jake the Snake is such a lazy. Not because it rhymes with Jake? No. It's such a lazy nickname.

Jake the Snake? Jake the Snake. Come on, man. It's just like, all right, we got the name Jake. All right, what can we rhyme it with? All right, what anyone got any ideas Jake snake rhymes with Jake? All right That's it. Good meeting everyone. Let's go. Let's go Jake the bake. I mean for 420 baby Jake and bake Jake and bake. Oh Jake and now we're cooking now. That's a better nickname. We are cooking gas

fire So you guys don't like Jake the snake as a nickname I just think it's lazy. Yes. It's just like lazy It's just stolen from a wrestler right that was that I'm like I'm whoever thought of it first You thought you were doing something and you weren't Jake thought of its first project or just the rest Someone next to Jake exactly. Well, we might have a Kobe Bryant situation where Jake gave himself the nickname. Yeah. Or the wrestler stole it from perhaps a porn actor.

Like Jake the Snake, you don't think that's a good porn name? That would be a good porn name. What's the, what? It's the reference. The snake being a wiener. Oh, got it. It's a cock joke, got it. Jake the Snake.

Oh yeah, and then who would Jake the Snake be starring with? Who's a co-star in this vehicle? Oh, I don't know, an elephant plumber. Ah, yes. Yes, I do. Fat Matt. Fat Matt. Fat Pat.

Fat Pat. Fat Maroon. How about Ivana Humpalot, right? Was that from Austin Powers, right, Ivana Humpalot. Right? Was that from Austin Powers, right? Ivana Humpalot and Jake The Snake. Oh yeah, that was such a, what a time. I love when Austin Powers was using his like.

Dude, that movie's 30 years old now, almost. Still slaps. Crazy, crazy! Cause I think about it, like, I was like, that movie just came out, man. Austin I think about it like, that movie just came out man. Awesome powers. You know what? Random lines from my life.

You know what just came out? It's great. And it came in as a 100% I think audience score, Rotten Tomatoes, it just never happened. It's the Seth Rogen show on Apple TV. It's a studio, right? So watch this. The critics score is like, if it's not 100, it's like 98.

The audience score is like 60%. People don't like it, and you know why? I realize what it is. Can I tell you why I have a hard time with it? Oh, please. It's just when I watch it. You can't watch that show, spoiler alert, I guess, if you're trying to wind down.

Because it's very, like it's that show that puts you in the center of awkward situations, and you feel like you're in the middle of it because of the way it's shot. And here's the kicker, there's like jazz music happening the whole time. And it's like jazz music, so it's very random. So whatever is happening, that's what it adjusts to.

And I'm just like, man, this gets my heart going. I feel awkward. I need to turn this off. I need to go an hour before I can go to sleep after watching that. But it's still very good. So I'm sure the awkwardness and the cringiness of some of the situations is, it turns some people off.

More than that, though, because this show reminds me, you guys ever watch this movie called Bowfinger? Came out 1999. I love that movie. Eddie Murphy, Steve Martin. Steve Martin wanting to make a movie without a budget. Right, and Bowfinger was like,

this is what Hollywood is like for real. These are how these, obviously not to that extent where it's that they got no budget and they're trying to shoot around and stuff, but like all of the kind where is that they got no budget and they're trying to shoot around stuff but like all of the the kind of Obstacles that they meet in trying to get a motion picture made. That's what it's like And so for most people they don't like the behind the scenes though of how stuff really is they want their own idealized version of

What life is really like over there in Hollywood. This show is, obviously they have fun, it's a parody of stuff, but a lot of it is like, yeah, that's really what happens. It's arguments over which director we're gonna use. Well, I made this promise, well, da da da, and like they're trying to figure all that stuff out, and I think people don't like that. Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

I also see that like, a little bit to more of my point of just, like, they want to relax when they watch something, right? And this is one of those, like, they had a scene that I will remember forever, and it's probably, my guess is probably their best scene, is when he is backstage in a movie with this woman director,

and they're trying to get a scene right before the sun goes down. They got one shot, because of the light, the sun is setting, and so they've, it's one shot to do this. And for reasons that he is not entirely, they're not entirely Seth Rogen's fault, and some where it is his fault,

he just keeps screwing up the scene, and it's just so, like, it's just so awkward and cringe-worthy, and it's just like, I had to stand up, like I stood up from my couch, I was like, what's gonna happen now? Dude, that episode right there. Will they get the shot? I hope they win an Emmy for that episode,

because by the way, that whole episode was shot as a one. Get outta here. Yep, one take. One take, the whole episode. It's one continuous shot. A one take episode about a one take. Yes. That's just people flexing, right?

Like that's adolescents and this, it's just like, hey, watch how I do this. But for this one, especially because the episode was about them doing everything in one take. That's why it's not just the sun is setting. It's they wanted to get it one continuous shot, moving from inside the pool to inside, to back outside to where they're doing the dinner.

Oh God, when he walks in front of the actress in the middle of the shot. Hey, how's it going? Nice to see you. And she's like, in the middle of the shot. That's when I it going? Nice to see you. And she's like in the middle of the shot. That's what I stood up. Yeah. This seems like a show that I would love to watch.

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Don't look now, but he's not gonna retire somewhere. Mike just fell over what he is in Vegas He just knocked into a slot machine. No, this is I'll retire if no one offers me a job. That's what he's saying, right? Exactly. I mean, not that we can look, but if you weren't to look, yeah, it's like, hey, don't look now, Steelers, but I'm still kind of interested.

Eventually you'll figure out once you're in training camp that you have nothing, I can come in here and take the job really easily but don't look now don't look now Saints legend Ryan Ramchak retires offensive lineman puts on his Instagram an incredible journey with the Saints Wow wait how are you reading this Wow I'm not reading is it burned into your eyelids even that guy's family's not looking at that No one Ryan Ram check 30 years old retired a little bit early, but still very good offensive lineman plate paper seat Nothing was for New Orleans for New Orleans should have played for the Rams should have

Ram check yeah, I like that. You're not looking, are you? You're using legend a little loose, right? Like, a Saint's legend? Is that like saying Jonathan Zaslow is a South Florida media legend? I mean, he kinda is. Who? Is he? Zaslow on your table?

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Oh, wow. What? What? That's pretty good. That's pretty good, man. That's pretty good. Whoa, with a surprise nomination from Stugats, showing you his dirty, dirty inner nine-year-old. This is the Dunn-Levatar Show with the Stugats. All right, we got a guest on the line. It is the one and only Jake the Snake Plumber.

Jake, welcome to the show. Jake is here. Morning. He's the co-founder of Umbo Mushrooms and an advocate and entrepreneur for functional mushrooms. Jake, before we get started, let me ask you this question. How many times have you been asked for tickets to events that you are not playing in or part of?

It happens probably two, three times a year, just depending on what's going on. Living in Colorado, the Broncos are always an ask. Somebody somehow, someway will say, hey, can you get me some tickets to the Broncos? Wouldn't really want to see Bo Nicks. So, yeah, it happens. but if I can pull it off, I do my best if it's somebody that is close to me.

But yeah, the ask for ticket thing is, I shamefully admit I ask for tickets too from people I know that are in the industry of maybe music or sometimes a sport or whatever. But as long as there's fair trade, I feel it's all right. What's your go-to response when somebody who's not at the level that should be asking you for tickets, but you're just like, okay,

definitely not giving this person tickets. What's the go-to response to let them down gently? I usually say, well, they're probably about anywhere from 200 to 250 bucks each. Yeah. And then right away they're like, okay, I thought you got them for free. You don't get them for free?

I said, no, they don't, the Broncos don't just hand out free tickets to anybody that ever played for them. I thought that was part of the perks. Jake, what was the last- Well, you can work it if you need to. If it's important, I can get free tickets, but it's usually for myself or my family or something like that.

What was the last tickets you asked for? Good question. I think it was to a concert to my boy Drew with Satsang. I think I went to a concert of him. He was coming through Colorado, through the Boulder area. So, you know, you call and say, hey, can you leave some tickets? Can I go, can you give me some tickets to the show?

And of course, you know, as a friend of ours, good friend of me and Dell, Jolly, show? And of course, you know, as a friend of ours, good friend of me and Dell, Jolly, my buddy with Umbo, you know, he's always cool and hooks it up. Are you, you know, Jake Plummer in Denver, you know, you're not waiting for restaurants, right? We're not doing that game anymore. Yeah, you know, if I go to a restaurant

and there's a long wait, I'm probably gonna go to another restaurant. Yeah. That's right. You know, I mean, the food stuff is kind of a funny thing. Like you got a 45, an hour long wait. What are you serving that's so good? Then you go and you're like, damn, I can make this at home. What am I doing here? Jake, I think most people know what Sunday is. It's not just Easter. It's 420. But tomorrow is bicycle day, is, I didn't know about. It's the celebration of the first psychedelic trip on LSD by Dr. Albert Hoffman in 1943

in tandem with his bicycle ride home, which I do not recommend, from Sandoz Labs. Which day means more in the Plummer household, 420 or Bicycle Day? Because I remember my first trip. I'm bypassing both of those and looking forward to Earth Day, to be honest with you.

Okay. Yeah, you know honest with you. Oh, okay. Yeah, you know, back in the day, even 420 was always a pretty funny thing when weed was illegal. And now, you know, 420 has just become a big, you know, just a bunch of smoke rising from Colorado and surrounding areas that have legalized marijuana. 420 has never really meant a whole lot to me. The 419 is really cool if you think about the history of psychedelics and just imagine being that, you know, Alvar Hoffman on his bike realizing, oh my God, I'm tripping on LSD riding my bike.

For anybody that's ever tripped on LSD, it could be a phenomenal, amazing ride and it also could be a ride straight from hell, but you just don't know what's gonna happen when you're doing the psychedelics. For me, 420, people who celebrate 420 get too excited about it, amateurs. If you send me a happy 420 text, it's like. It's like Cinco de Mayo, right? Like people get like, oh, we're gonna do shots

on Cinco de Mayo, I'm like, come on, man. I do shots every day. That's a good point. I'm doing shots on the fifth of every month. It's cool how things have progressed. You know, I mean, at least there's progression. We're talking about it. We're able to like, it's not something they have to,

you know, go and hide from. It's out there. It's definitely, it's changed things. How they've legalized one, you know, marijuana, and now they're working to decriminalize plants and make them accessible to people that need them. Jake, I'm curious, we were having a discussion earlier about your nickname Jake the Snake. Did you, where, how'd you get the nickname? Who gave you that nickname first of all? Yeah well, I'm gonna, my actual legal name is not Jake, so it

didn't happen till, you know, when I started playing sports probably around the sixth, seventh grade. I think it was the seventh grade, I went to a basketball camp in Idaho up in McCall, Idaho and the Boise State Bronco football, basketball players were running that. Chris Childs, who was a Boise State Bronco was there, Arnell Jones, Doug, you said Tillo, bunch of guys we looked up to. And when they, my brothers had kind of called me the snake

a couple of times, just jokingly, uh, they started calling me Jake the snake. I read Kenny Stabler's biography, the snake, uh, I played football. I was hard to catch, uh, slithery kind of quick. So the, the moniker was right. It was good. Ryan with Jake, all those good things. So I became Jake, the snake more well known when I got to ASU. And on the first fan day, fan fest day,

I just started signing Jake the Snake Plumber. You know, everything. I wrote it all out. Like, here I am. I'm here. I'm fresh from Boise, Idaho. And I'm Jake the Snake. And then that's when it kind of stuck as far as people

outside of my family and some friends locally calling me the snake. Hold on, your name isn't Jake? That is unbelievable. No. What's your name? My real name is Jason. So, you know, I got to the third grade and Mrs. Jenkins at Pierce Park Elementary,

there were four Jasons in the classroom. And so when she got me to bring me into the class, she said, tell me, do you have any other names you go by? I said, well, I've been called Jake. And she said, all right, come on inside. And so we went in and she said, hey, everybody, wanna introduce you to our new classmate, Jake Plummer. He's here to join us.

And from that day, I was Jake. That's like finding out that Mickey Mouse's name was like Nicholas and it wasn't really Mickey, it's his wild. It's Nicky Mouse. Yeah, so you know, what if it would have been Jason, I don't know what my nickname would have been, who knows? Jason the Snaisen.

Jake, settle a debate we were having on the show yesterday. Would you rather, for the rest of time, be able to understand every language in the world or understand animals? Ooh, man. Come on, Jake, it's an easy answer. I already understand animals. I've been in some moments where I can kind of like

relate and talk with them. So I would say having the ability to go anywhere in the world and communicate would be just, it would open up so many avenues and just be able to go anywhere in the world, be able to communicate would be phenomenal, I think. Jake, do you listen to Aaron Rodgers and just sometimes laugh?

Because I do. I mean, I don't laugh, but I don't listen to Aaron Rodgers either, so. I'm sorry, I would laugh with you there, but just at that moment, Chris was talking to me, I have no idea what you're saying. I was just like, that's not- I want to pull back the curtain for everybody, for Jake, for the listeners, for the viewers,

everybody. Every time someone in the shipping container or in the video room has a pithy remark, it mutes everything that's being said. So as we're trying to do an interview, it is the worst possible thing to do because I don't know what Jake just said. Be a pro. I mean, come on. I'm just trying to do an interview, it is the worst possible thing to do because I don't know what Jake just said. I'll be a pro. I mean, come on. I'm just trying to get you to ask good questions.

We're trying to help you. I was critis- And you're gonna get mad at us? I was criticizing Izzy for terrible journalism. The guy said he's talked to animals before and he asked about Aaron Rodgers. That's ridiculous. I would like a follow-up question.

What animals have you spoken to? Okay, well, was was my buddy, Dell's, the Jolly Death Ranch, where you come and partake in some particular plants and your ego dies, so we call it the Jolly Death Ranch. But I had a great conversation with Bluto, his black lab. What's his name. What a name. What a name.

Yeah, we shared an apple, played tug of war. We had a lot of good times. And then another time his chickens came out and that was insane. And you know, talking and like hearing him talk and like talk, having that little bit of interaction with the animals was phenomenal. How did you share the apple?

Was it like one bite you, one bite the dog, or was it like the trans situation? I ate most of it and then it had just the core, and so I had the core and I was kind of protecting that, and we were playing, you know, like that's my bone, not yours, and you know, me and Bluto, we're tight, man. She's a great dog. So tell us, these guys are claiming

that if you actually hear what animals are saying, they're not that smart, it's not that interesting, they're just kind of dumb. I guarantee you the dog was saying, can I have some apples? What was the dog like? Was it in-depth conversations or was it kind of dumb conversations?

No, I mean, it's not like, here we're talking like, we're not saying words between each other. It's not like I'm talking with an an actual dog and he's the dog saying words. It's understanding and like looking and feeling out each other and it's actually a higher level of communication. There's no words needed. We don't have to do blah blah this. We're actually like looking at each other and going and going over and looking for something in the bushes. You. It's not a communication thing that we do is almost, it's like just a lot of hot air.

I don't know if you guys have checked out the telepathy tapes. There are the autistic kids that could communicate without talking and they're understanding. I mean, that's like, they're not considered, as you look at them, they don't talk, they're non-verbal and you're thinking all these kids really, you know, not as smart as other kids, but they're actually smarter than most people because they don't need to do this blah blah blah thing, they can just understand. So animals are diverse, they're amazing, they're super intelligent, and I love animals.

So now that I just said that, I think I'd go with being able to communicate with animals. There we go. Wow! All right! Yeah, I wouldn't have to fish or do anything. So I'd have a hawk come in and get a fish for me and bring it right over to me, and I'm like, cool, perfect.

So Jake, this was my argument against that, is you're assuming just because you can communicate with them that they're actually going to be vibing with you. They might not like you. Right? You might say, hey, hog, give me a fish. And the hog says, get your own. F***.

Yeah. Yeah. Now imagine, Jake, imagine you're on some umbo mushrooms and you're just like having a great trip, and in your head, every language available. Like, that would be wild, you talking to yourself in just every language available. Well, you know wild. You talking to yourself in just every language available. Well, you know, it wouldn't be Umbo mushrooms that I'm on

because Umbo are non-psychedelic. True, true. They're functional mushrooms. We sell our bars at REI, but the ability they have to make you think clear, focus and hear and understand things, non-psychedelic wise, they help, but the psychedelic ones would be the ones that,

if I was on those and was able to communicate with the animals at a deeper level, which there are people out there that have, and even there are people out there that can understand animals at a deep, deep level. He's changing my mind. He's changing my mind. Now you're switching, dude, I'm telling you. We all understand animals. I mean, if you have a level, you know, he's changing my mind

We all understand animals I mean if you have a dog you understand your dog when you come home They're so excited to see you and you feel that love you feel that excitement You understand that he wants to walk into a bar and order a drink in any language And that to me not as fun as being able to yeah now have a hawk go fishing for me that and also like being Never being ripped off by a cab driver or by someone selling something in the market. No, because I'm telling you, you walk in as the silly American

and they're like, oh, we got one here. And then you flip it on them and you speak in their language with their slang. And that's a big one. When you use their slang, you're like, oh wait, this dude is super local. And now they're like, oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were one of them.

Here, here, take it for free. Now imagine you can get an army of dogs to attack him just on command. You're still assuming that the dogs are gonna listen to you. Like the dogs are gonna be like, man, get out of here. They listen to me now. Do they?

Yeah, but what if I had just the ants? I could just have the ants come out of nowhere. You wouldn't even know they were coming. You'd just be like, what's going on? And all of a sudden, the ants take you down. That is so true. Ants are scary. But we're all thinking evil on this.

We also could have ants carry us around the world. You know, say, carry me over here. And they would pick you up and take you wherever you needed. So it could be, I think it'd be a lot more enjoyable having the ability to speak to animals. You could do some wild stuff, dive into the ocean and call a dolphin over and have him take you

really fast to the island. Jake, real quick before we let you go, you got your big pickleball bash today, right? Out in Arizona, which I'm flying to Arizona in a couple hours. How do your pickleball skills compare to your quarterbacking skills? They're pretty similar, you know?

I'm not afraid of taking any shot and I'll play really, really, really well for about half the game. I have a moment where I can't hit the ball over the net and then I'll get hot at the end if I have to pick it up and pull the victory out or something. But I love the game. It's a lot of fun. This is a great way to raise some funds for the Goodsport Foundation down here in Arizona. Kind of get back in touch with the Valley doing some stuff here. Obviously ASU, you know, they've had a little resurgence. So been down here a lot and it's like my second home. So it's exciting to be down here. And you know, we got some, some great guys coming out to play. Terrell Owens, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jen Welter, just played yesterday with Robert Tate, who played in the league for 10 years, DB.

So we got a lot of celebs coming out to play and have a good time, raise money for a good cause. If you're ever down 20 to 14, you want Jake Plummer on your team. I'm sorry, Jason Plummer on your team. Jason Plummer. Jake, as someone who's dabbled in microdosing with mushrooms, at what point is it not microdosing anymore?

When you take how many tablets? Well, yeah, I mean, everybody's different when it comes to the microdosing thing. That's the big term now, everybody's talking microdosing, and that's what we come up with against every day, trying to sell functional mushrooms. I macrodose functional mushrooms. So I take multiple capsules, our rise capsules, I'll take our tincture,

our charge and recharge, which is a combination of a few mushrooms. We are doing this and continuing to, I've been on the show a few times talking about it, but it's continuing to talk to people about our deficiencies. We think we're deficient in vitamins and minerals. We're learning about our soil content that it's really not producing as rich in nutrient dense and vitamin dense vegetables that we're consuming. So this is just a way to introduce a food group into your diet and really in a macro way is what I do. And you know, when you hear someone say microdosing, it's most of the times about psychedelics

or psilocybin mushrooms. But we're dealing with lion's mane, reishi, turkey tail, cordyceps, shiitake, oyster, the mushrooms that are all legal, that are sold at numerous stores throughout. But that's why with talking with a lot of NFL nutritionists, ASU's nutritionists, you know, these players are asking about it,

but they don't know where to go to get it because online it's kind of sketchy sometimes. So you never know what you're buying when you're getting this great deal on powdered functional mushrooms online. So that's what we kind of aim to do at Umbo is provide a really high quality, very potent, well-extracted product

for anybody that's an athlete, which means active mind and body and wants to get out and get after it. And how much of this, did you get into this because of the pain that you had to deal with at the NFL career? Well, I was dealing with that for sure when I came across Charlotte's Web, which was the hemp oil. And what that did for my body, it definitely piqued my interest on what other organisms are out there that are natural,

that can help me as I'm 50. And it was cool, because yesterday I'm playing pickleball with T.O., he's 51, Robert Tate, he's 52. And we're out there moving, you know? And it's like these, you can go and remain active post football career. And for me, it was definitely to be healthy and to get myself, you know, the preventative medicine, to think down the road, not just right now, but to think when I'm 80, what do I want to be like,

you know, I don't want to be hobbling around with not much memory and, you know, wishing I wasn't here. I want to be active and going. And so these mushrooms are something that I think will help, help do that. And as we pursue this, uh, you know, we're working with a lot of great guys. You see my Cory, the sand man, he's got a fight coming on, uh, coming out here soon. So he's one of our good buddies and, and, and he loves the products and people that don't sleep well. Our sleep capsules are amazing, all natural. There's nothing that's gonna make you drowsy. There's no weird drugs in it.

It's all natural. It's just nature at its finest. And I guess now that I'm saying that, I would love to actually like probably talk to the animals because then they know more about mushrooms. And we're back with the book. We'll keep working faster. Back and forth on this.

Macrodose on some umbo mushrooms right now. You can go to getumbo.com and use the promo code Dan15. They get 15% off. Jason, Steven, Jacob the Snake. Thank you for joining us. Right on guys, I really appreciate the time. You guys are doing a great job. Keep it up and anytime you need me, I'm here.

We got you buddy buddy. Thank you. I saw a meme that said, shout out to the people who tried all the plants and died just to see which ones would be good for us to trip on. That is, yo, that is, I always think about that. It's like, yo, how much trial and error had to happen before we got to, no, no, do this and do this much. Like, I've smoked 10 consecutive plants.

This 11th one, though, wow, amazing this and do this much of this. Like I've smoked 10 consecutive plants. This 11th one though, wow, amazing. It's just a little bravery, right? The cavemen who came up with some of this stuff, right? Bad dates. Oh man, yes, Indiana Jones. That's, you gotta have like a, it's a capuchin, right? Yeah, a little capuchin monkey. Maybe that's how you do it.

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