The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Stugotz Knicks Test

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

Stugotz is judging Pablo Torre for his fandom, so we see the type of fan Stu really is with a quiz on his knowledge if this year's New York Knicks. Then, after being introduced as not caring about the Miami Heat's postseason, Mike Ryan is absolutely apoplectic over the Miami Heat as years of emotions boil over because of Greg Cote suggesting it is "dynamite time." Plus, Ron Magill shows up amid the fighting to take us through the best from this week in the animal kingdom including elephants with cigarettes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Please drink responsibly. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. I need a ruling from the group here on blustery Stugatz and what kind of powers he has to tell Pablo that he's not allowed back on the Knicks bandwagon when for 14 years he's been the quietest Knicks fan

in the world. He's got a microphone every day and you would have no evidence for 14 years. Why would I talk about that? No evidence that he's paying any attention to what's happening with the Knicks. Yesterday, what'd you call him? Joshua Hart? What did you call him? Jonathan Hart?

Jason, I think. Jason Hart. Jason Hart. I don't know what it was, but I have in front of me. What is your ruling? What should we be doing here, Greg Cody, as it relates to Stugats and his Knicks fandom? Is he allowed to have it publicly back now? Yeah. Hold on. If I can offer this to Greg Cody, since he's deciding this, I never left the Knicks for another team.

I didn't talk about the Knicks because the Knicks gave me no reason to talk about them. So I didn't leave them for Philadelphia. If you're going to leave your team, you leave for a West Coast team. You don't leave for a team right down the turnpike. Different conference. I think that hatred and disappointment is the real currency of being a fan.

Quit hogging the mic. Let some other people talk. That's what you need to be a true fan. You have to express extreme disappointment and even hatred. But that was not what he was doing. He was just hiding. He was claiming to be a Heat fan. He would say, we all the time with the heat i have in front of me should we test his

knowledge i have in front of me six nix questions six pretty easy i think nix questions if you're somebody who's watched the nix at all this year or the last few years i'm not here to take a quiz there you go thank you how many should he have to get right in order to be allowed to be blustery boisterous? Knicks fan here on our show well six is bad because it could end in a tie It should have been an odd number. I doubt very much that he's gonna get three correct, but I have faith in him I think it's at least four right so should that be the standard How about the standard being don't leave your team for Philadelphia? How's that sound, okay?

I'm just saying, Stugats, you've been, for 14 years you've had a microphone. At that microphone yesterday, you told some New York radio gas bags that if you had an appearance near them, you'd draw 5,000 more people than they would. Correct. You have been a proud, loud New Yorker for a long time. Yeah.

But the Jets have beaten some of this out of you, and you've been quiet about the Knicks. Like, you've not, there is next to no Knicks talk for a decade and a half from you here. I know, but give me a single reason outside of that star from Amari Stoudamire, who was the MVP after six weeks, why it would talk about the Knicks. Honestly, like, what reasons have they given me why I would talk about the Knicks, honestly.

Like what reasons have they given me to talk about that? Because you're a fan, because you're upset, because usually the things that you care about, few though they are, usually they get some passion out of you. More than that though, he's a good teammate. This was a Heat show for a long time, because of the Big Three and he knew the assignment, so he said, you know what, I'm gonna do

what's best for the show, what's best for my team, what's best for Dan, I'm gonna talk about the heat. And it may hurt me, we may be in the same conference, but I'm gonna do what I have to do. Unselfish, team player. Exactly, if I could describe Stugats in one word, it would be unselfish. Thank you, Billy.

Yeah. Right, it was also good for my bank account. Yeah. Also, like, if you're gonna betray your team, betray your team for a winning team, not for another loser of a team. But it hasn't applied to football. He talks plenty of Jets.

I mean, listen, we love to talk about the NFL here. We don't talk about regular season basketball. Oh, then wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I mean, you guys do, but your team, we've had a reason to talk about the heat. Are you aware of what the national media landscape is

with regards to the Knicks despite their lack of achievements? Been laying low, Mike. Name the Knicks starting five from the first two playoff games. That should be a pretty easy one, right? The first two playoff games. OG, Brunson,

Hartenstein, Dante DiVincenzo. I gotta think about this for a second. Mitchell Robinson? Ooh, Josh Hart. Jason Hart. Jason Hart? Two centers. Mitchell Robinson.

Twin Towers. Going with Twin Towers right off the bat. Okay. Have there been Twin Towers at Delajean and Sampson? No, the Sixers weren't expecting that at all. Four to five though, huh? Yeah, you got four to five. That's 60%, Dan-O.

What two players were traded for OG Anunobi? OG, whoa, who was traded? Let me think about this for a second. They play for the Raptors now. Who was traded for OG? Landry Fields, who else was it? Oh, Steve Novak. That was a tie.

Novak was Hauser before Hauser. Novak was excellent. Novak shot from three so that how's her corner three or For your life though what a backer bird Landry feels the GM for the Hawks. It's quickly an RJ Barrett What is what is Deuce McBride's first name? He just discovered that Deuce McBride played for him in game one. He's good, he's a player. Danny. You still think he's gonna get three, Billy?

Bake? You think I'm gonna? Well, this is recency bias. I mean, if we went historical Knicks, I feel like he'd be all over it. This is just, how do we trick him now? Name one assistant coach on the Knicks staff. Ooh, that's gonna be a tough one.

Tom Thibodeau. There's one that's obvious. Is there? Hmm. Mm-hmm. Let me think about this for a second. Not John Starks, not Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson should be an assistant,

should be a head coach somewhere Mark Jackson. How did Jalen Brunson get there Stugans? Rick Brunson. There you go. Okay he's one of the assistant coaches. I win. Yeah okay you got one. One of four is not winning. And I got sixty percent on the first one. Which two players did, that's eighty percent, which two players did the Knicks acquire from Detroit at the trade deadline? One being a veteran sharpshooter and the other a guard who had previously played for them just two seasons ago.

Tough questions. Which deadline? They're not tough questions. I mean, multi-part questions here. If there's a comment in your question, it's a trick. Which deadline? The trade deadline. This past deadline?

Two from the Pistons? I mean, I need to hear it in a sentence. The Knicks last first round pick was this forward in 2020 out of the Atlantic 10 Conference. Say it again. The Knicks last first round pick was this forward in 2020 out of the Atlantic 10 Conference. The A10.

Who was it? I'm confused, am I doing the A10, the two Pistons, which one am I doing here? You're just getting everything wrong. It's, I don't know, I think you should have his fandom revoked, I do. I mean, I'm still here. If you don't know, I think he should have his fandom revoked. I do. Like I don't. I mean, I'm still here.

If you don't know anything about your team and they're already in the playoffs and you're discovering players, I mean, are we a fan? I'm dead serious. I have to watch the regular season to be a fan of the Knicks. No, you have to know something about your team.

I knew 80% of the first question. You have to, I think that most people listening to this, if I ask them those kinds of questions about their team, someone they claim is their team, that's not very hard to do, to have some knowledge. Isn't, aren't the roots of caring about all of these things, that you get to know Hartenstein's name, you get to know Brunson's story. I get to know Hartenstein's name when Hartenstein does

something in a big spot and he finally did that's how I learned his name. New York has fallen in love with this team because it does what it does in those scrums they play very hard for Thibodeau even though all the players in the league say they don't want to play for Thibodeau. They play very hard. Hardenstein, that's exactly what he does. It's just neck first. I'm going to go grab that offensive rebound. I'm going to defend you.

Hardenstein. I'm going to be super willful at all times. Do you guys think I have this wrong? What's the bare minimum point of entry on knowledge you have to have to have something that resembles sports passion? I don't think you have to be an expert. I really don't. That's not expertise. Dan, I put up with so much.

That's so far from expertise. I hate this argument. I put up with so many miserable Knicks seasons. So sorry I didn't pay attention to the regular season. Why would I pay attention to them? They have given me no reason to. I have my entire life. Same with the Islanders, same with the Mets, same with the Jets.

Sturgots, they were a two seed this year. Like what do you mean no reason? They're a two seed this year. I'm not even certain in their heyday. When Riley was the coach, I could tell you the name of an assistant or the guy they picked up at the trade deadline from the Pistons. Hey, what do you want from me? Oh, they're rascals. Who are you? The commissioner of sports fans suddenly? I mean. I just think that there is, to be someone who's at a microphone.

Name seven Panthers. The other day, Stugots, you did this, you did this the other day, where you're arguing, Kendrick Perkins is saying of Barkley and Shaq, they're not watching the Knicks games. It's obvious they're not watching the Knicks games. And the argument you made, because all the arguments you make,

are based on what it is that you should be allowed to do the argument that you made is that people talking about teams on microphones on behalf of the media shouldn't have to watch the games that's that's the argument that you made your your pro laziness at every turn i'm not telling you how to be a fan i'm asking you and everyone in the audience What's the point of entry on what your knowledge needs to be so that you can say Pablo? You're not allowed to be a fan anymore because I'm the one who's here governing who's allowed to be a fan Hold on. I know I know what the difference is here, right? Pablo, what he did was to

embarrass the Knicks. Stu would never do anything to embarrass the Knicks like that. And that's the difference between a fan and somebody who is just here to hang out when it's cool and then go hang out with Joel and be when it's cool. Stu Gotts, if you cut them open, orange and whatever, blue. Thank you. Orange and blue, yes. I was going to say orange and green. I'm thinking of you. I don't know. I got the colors right. And if you kind of open it, it'd be orange and just greed. It just, good greed. Green, it would be orange and green. No, not green.

No, just greed. Just requests for more would spill out of his blood. It was a nice day though, a nice evening for New York basketball to win that way. To go up 2-0 against the team you should be afraid of because I do agree with Joel Embiid. I do believe that the Sixers are better even with all those old broken parts around Embiid and Maxey.

He has to be healthy though. Him unhealthy, I don't think the Sixers are better than the Knicks. If he's healthy, I totally agree with that. But he's not healthy. He's not. And that's obvious. And they're up by five with 28 seconds left yesterday to tie the series. Greg, you haven't said very much this hour and Tuesdays are an important day to get your voice heard. Well, to what he said, you don't have to be,

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Don Lebatard. What do I got here? I got a Magnum condom. We won't get that out. That's shocking. Stugatz. Here's a picture of Christopher when he was like three years old. Right next to the condom.

Yeah. He's got a reminder. Never forget. This is the Don Lebatardar Show with the Stugots. I've got two different things happening in this room as it regards the Miami Heat Stugots. I told you that Mike Bryan didn't even pay attention to the Heat game on Sunday. He went to the Panthers game instead. And I believe this is a wise coping mechanism

for certain Heat fans to simply not care anymore so it doesn't hurt. But Greg Cody is saying, and Greg Cody is a long time Miami Herald columnist, I don't know if it still means something in this day and age, when the columnist calls for a firing, or when the columnist calls for a fire or when the columnist calls for a shakeup but long time Miami Herald columnist Greg Cody who does not often do this came in here today and said of the Miami Heat dynamite time.

And then he did like the old cartoon dynamite where I don't even know if it is cartoon. Is it still done that way? It can't be the way they implode hotels in Vegas, right? By by still pressing down on something that would like uh that would help you that would help you inflate a bicycle tire like a bicycle pump. Right pump right you're saying dynamite time for the Miami Heat and I want to slow down for a second because you're a year behind Mike on this Mike was telling you last year blow it up and then they make

the miracle run to the finals and then this postseason feels over because before it started i don't hear a lot of people anywhere saying that the heat can get to even five even though i think they actually can because you underestimate all the things this these people are but winning a game in the first round is not what the standard is and they're not as good

as boston and and it's important to note full strength playoff jimmy they're not as good as boston well they weren't this regular season but they have been for the last five years they've been better like you can say that but for the last five years they've been better than boston right

yeah i'm i'm dealing with current reality not what was and i just think that if a thirty five and he'll be thirty five next year of a thirty five-year-old injury prone jimmy butler is your best player you have no chance to compete for a championship in the nba you just don't just did last year that was last year last year did last year, David.

Boston got a lot better and he did not. But that was last, it's not even. But it wasn't particularly competitive last year. No, I mean, you saw the final. I mean, they didn't compete with Denver. They beat the Boston Celtics and competed. You said compete for the championship. It's literally what they were doing in the last five games. They also almost blew a 3-0 lead. There were only two teams doing it.

People forget they almost blew a 3-0 lead in that series. Boston got a lot better Miami got worse Miami did not get better they did the opposite and and there's a reason why Damien Lillard would have helped this team they needed the help they can't. Can I stop you for just a second just because they were better this year when they were healthy. They were not healthy all year. Gabe Vincent and Max Struce were not missed. I disagree. I know that you can make the long-term plan, the long-term planning of building the assets of Hawkeyes. They were deeper this year. What?

This team was deeper, it just got hurt. I think the big improvement is Duncan Robinson, but no, they weren't better. There was a golf that was established early on with Boston winning their offseason and Miami very clearly losing theirs. And that golf as the season progressed got wider in my opinion. Yes I can't dispute that Boston has separated itself the part I'm disputing is they had the same regular season record as last year with more injuries this year like Hawkes has given them something that Struce and Vincent could not. I mean okay well I think

we're splitting hairs if last year's team plays this year's team, and even if I give you a healthy Jimmy Butler, I think Jimmy is that much more diminished. I think last year's team smokes this year's team. But last year's team was also in the play-in. Like, you shouldn't be aspiring to barely make the play-in. Last year was an anomaly. To go from where they went to the final was an aberration.

It's nothing you can live by and they're trying to do it again with now an injured Jimmy Butler. If I ask you this, let's run it back. Let's bring back essentially the exact same Heat team. How confident are you that they're going to compete for a championship? Because I'm not. They're saying that this offseason they're actually positioned pretty well. There's stars like Donovan Mitchell and people like Damian Lillard that they've previously missed out on that may not extend certainly in Mitchell's case.

So they're primed to take one of these guys with a year left on their deal because their franchise that they're at presently are frustrated because they won't get the long-term commitment. I guess in that respect maybe you you hold the line and see what's available to you because the plan of repeatedly going into a season with the intention to improve the roster which has been the intention every off season and yet they fail repeatedly and last year their contenders in the Eastern Conference got better they benefited from the Miami Heat failing in certain pursuits. So maybe it's not time to blow it up.

You see the landscape. You see if Donovan Mitchell is out there. But Jimmy Butler cannot continue being the best offensive player on this team. That is without a shadow of a doubt. Let me stop you right on. Right on. I'm bringing it back right on. And you know it. And you know it. That's right. right on Mm-hmm. Yes, I'm bringing back right on and you know it and you know it. That's right right on And we used to say that a lot man back in high school. I lived on right on and groovy

We used to say groovy. Oh, he do not have a groovy roster right now Jimmy Butler cannot be your best player if he's your second third best player. You got a competitor You're competing they were in the finals last year. Yeah, I understand that. Yeah, that's the Trump card though, right? It's like, only if they were better. Wait, last year they were better. He has the card though. Yeah, but next year Jimmy Butler's two years older than he was when they were in the final. I agree, I'm a Wolfs guy now. Just look at the highlights from last year. Jimmy Butler looks like a different person. Yeah yeah they made it to the finals last year and that gets to be the trump card in every debate with an irrational heat fan when you want to

counter with they were also three minutes away from the lottery it don't matter they had a historic run amazing but don't let that fortify a bad process right now because this roster is simply not good enough and it's not good enough by a mile. Okay, but it was in the finals last year. Two years ago. And I'm gonna stop, this is what I'm gonna do. Keep using that card, Dan. This is what I'm going to do, because locally, I have heard from people,

locally, that think that this show's coverage of the Miami Heat has been bad because of how emotional the coverage is. It is one game into a playoff series that they should not win. One game into a playoff series where they look overwhelmed and also you're allowed to say they had a lot of injuries this year you would not be wrong to say that to straight play in tournament games would suggest that the time to sell on jimmy and everybody

would have been two years ago because bam needs to be better bam can't carry a team and you need somebody better than jim, which is the same conversation we were having when he got here, that Jimmy Butler can't be your best player. But then they got to the finals twice with Jimmy Butler, and yes, they've used up his legs. They've used up his spring, and it would be better with an onerous contract to get rid of that earlier.

But they were in the finals last year. And the Phoenix Suns were in the finals three years ago and they totally changed over their roster. They're not good enough. Guys, hold on a second. What is this? Hold on a second. They were in the finals two years ago? Jimmy Butler looked like a different human being two years ago.

Last year he did. He's washed! But you're also? Comfortably, he's washed! Wow. He's not washed. But you're also... Comfortably to what he was last year, he can't do the same things. You held him all season long for this run and his body betrayed him because

he wouldn't go straight up because he doesn't even have faith in his own body. Wake the hell up, Heat fans! You're so far gone from being a contender right now. You are an afterthought. Quit failing every offseason and this show in particular has done a bad job of covering this team because they've been carrying water for this franchise for four years and they just turn around and say they made a bubble final and they narrowly escaped the play-in and blew in a 3-0 lead in the Eastern Conference finals. They're a are joke right now everyone's laughing at them okay better by notes go i did sawgrass unlike mike i am not a heat fan so i'm not going to get quite that emotional

by and large i agree with with mike i do not agree that uh... jimmy brought josh richardson onto the roster i don't know how big solution was okay we're sorry about the call everything and now by the way and they had a Terry Rosier Jimmy Butler is not washed, but he can't be your best. They're trying to kill me. They're trying to kill my Bradley Beal was like I thought I was going to Miami what the hell happened? Make it ever since like I don't want to print shirts anymore. I don't want to be a luxury Yeah, you got lucky on that Bradley Beal thing, huh?

I mean, we'll see. The playoffs are really how you judge them. But that does seem like a little- I still argue that wash should be a good thing. If you're washed, you're clean, you're feeling fresh, why is wash the bad thing? Six goddamn years I've been talking about the ambition inside of Baymata Bayon, he's got motivational quotes

on his locker, it's ridiculous. You start wondering how do they fix this. They have the best coach in the NBA they have all these talented players That's terrible fish rots at the head as they say Not good not a fan bye bye How could they bring Josh Richardson back how could they do that to me I How could they bring Josh Richardson back? How could they do that to me? I opened the segment by saying he didn't care about the Heat. He had, you know, put on the bubble wrap of I'm going to care only about the Panthers.

And I worry in general about Heat fans because the last 14 years have done this to them. Stugatsa is sitting here saying, what have I had to talk about for 14 years? For 14 years, the Miami Heat have been talked about at the top of this sport, and it's made Mike Ryan insane. But think about where Mike is going to hide from the Heat. He's going to Broward County. He's going to Sawgrass Fort. I mean, that's where he's going. It's insane. He's in Swampland to get away from this team making him crazy. And Ed Morse, of course, let's do Let's do let's do this segment here with Ron McGill. We'll get back to a heat talk in a second Don LeBretard

Alright, we got to go back out there. That was big Wake him up. Oh, he doesn't want he doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now. It's getting tense Yeah, because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens bother anymore now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result he needs something that happens can we bother are we bothering you right now turn on your microphone great microphones on stugats paint the scene the paint the scene is I gotta go to work good night this is the Don LeVatar show with the stugats with these two guys.

People are really mad at our show and I think I from what I can gather Mike, this is just people coming. I'm mad at our show. You said they were better this year. They're not they're not a good team. They were. They were hurt. That's a roster construction. But you guys get hurt. Tyler Hero always gets hurt. Jimmy Baller gets hurt. That's a that's a roster construction. But you guys I get hurt Tyler here always gets hurt Jimmy baller gets hurt Tyler Tyler Tyler here will be maddening Bama. The bio will confuse you that's who they are Strength and conditioning problem. Mm-hmm. I just don't think that you can say they're not a good team You could also say that Boston got a lot better. Yes, that's that Okay, but they're not close to Boston right now. Agreed. They're not close. But nobody is. Well, the Knicks are. So why try? I don't understand.

Boston added Porzingis and Drew Holliday. We added Thomas Bryant. Agreed. That Max Drews ended up being a big loss, huh? Yes, because he was a fully formed player. We're all here developing players. They're just...Romigil's here talking. When did the Heat become the developmental league for other teams is what I want to know. Billy, you've been offering me a sentence of shit for two days. How so? Like where it's one sentence. Well if I say more than one sentence I get kicked out so I gotta keep it tight.

I mean he's right. They develop other players, the other players go elsewhere. I mean, it's happening. It's gonna continue to happen. Hello, Ron. You guys sure you wanna talk to me? I think you all need some therapy over there. Things are going a little awry.

What do you think? Why don't you, you go ahead and give us your assessment as a long time friend of the show who has great concern as he looks down upon us from a more reasonable, sane place. I'm just afraid Mike's gonna blow a vessel. I like the guy. I need him for my highline next year. I want him to settle down a little bit.

That's another team, geez. We realize that we're not good enough. Change is coming. They were in the finals two years ago. And we were in the finals two years ago. That's what you do. Yeah, all right. Gotta keep up. I mean, okay finals two years ago. And we were in the finals two years ago. That's what you do. Yeah, well, gotta keep up. I mean, okay, you guys can keep saying

they were in the finals last, it was less than a calendar year ago. Same for the Cyclones, exactly right. Exactly, the Cyclones were in the finals last year too. Yeah. And we kinda didn't get better this year. Gotta move on, Dan. There's always next year.

Cone's ownership knows what they need to do. Gotta wanna earn. I mean, the Dodgers, ownership knows what they need to do. Gotta wanna earn. I mean, the Dodgers added a Tawny. Exactly right. Gotta wanna learn. Exactly right. Gotta wanna earn, gotta wanna learn. You gotta move on.

They're not good enough right now. I gotta do something. Dear Pat Riley, do something. Add somebody. Make Jimmy Butler your third best player and you got a championship contender. Right on. Gotta wanna earn. Dynamite day. Gotta wanna earn, gotta wanna learn.

They rhyme. Thank you. Am I right, Ron? Yes sir, you are. Okay. Ron, which animals gotta wanna learn, gotta wanna earn the most? The mouse.

The mouse. Everything wants to eat and kill the mouse. If you don't learn, you don't earn, you're gonna be eaten. How about that? It's a gackey. Wow. That's interesting. Tony, why aren't you saying anything? You're the basketball guy there. You're probably the best player in the studio. Why aren't you saying anything? Look, Ron, I feel like I'm cosigning everything that Mike has to say, everything that Mike said I agree with. Plus, I'm a wolves guy now, Ron, I love the wolves.

What? A wolves guy now, yeah. The animal, Anthony Edwards, I was like, you know what? I like him. You can't come back. Wait a minute, you're now with, you're a Minnesota guy now? Right now, I'm a Minnesota guy. Until the heat, bring me back.

Wow. Ron, why are ferrets so expensive? I was at a pet store the other day and I was buying dog food and I walked by and I saw a ferret was $400. Why do they cost so much and are they good pets? First of all, they have a very, very bad smell that's almost impossible to get rid of, it's a musk.

Anybody who has a ferret as a pet, you will know it the minute you walk in their house. You just kind of go, it's horrible. Okay, now ferrets have become like designer ferrets. You know, they have different color coats of them, so they get a little bit more expensive that way. I would never buy a ferret in a pet shop anyway. You know, these exotic animals, even though ferrets now have been bred generations now for human care, but I would get with a reputable ferret breeder if you want to have one, but realize that this is not an animal that is going to make your environment smell good by any stretch of the imagination.

They can be very curious, they can be destructive. You know, if it's not properly raised, they can give you a really nasty bite. Remember, this animal is the descendant of the polecat, which is basically one of the most aggressive predators on the face of the planet. This thing tears up and nears up so many different things. It's amazing. You've got an animal that yes, generations now they have bred them for domestication,

but I would not recommend having one unless you've done a lot of research. Again, for me, the smell is the overwhelming deterrent. Tell me more about this polecat. The polecat is basically a wild ferret is what it is. European wild ferret, and that's where the ferret descends from. And it is just an aggressive predator.

I mean, you watch the polecat hunt mice, birds, the way it hunts, it's fast, it's vicious. You try to catch a wild polecat and it'll tear you up. And it's not gonna tear you up, man. Ron, my fishtail palms are overwhelmed with beautiful red cardinals. And I found out that the cardinal, it's not a migratory bird actually.

They say in Florida all season long and I was surprised to learn that. Are there any migratory birds that just loved it so much down here, they decided to just take up full-time residents. You know, that's a good question. The bird that comes to mind, believe it or not, is the flamingo. New Yorkers.

Flamingos now have taken up residence in various parts of the Everglades. There's a movement now to make it the national, the state bird of Florida. These are migratory birds, came from the Bahamas, came from Mexico, came from Cuba, and now a bunch of them are staying here year round. And that is, to me, that's a great sign. It shows us that the Everglades restoration has been working. These animals say, hey, you know what?

It's not so bad here. We don't have to leave. And we're staying. So that's a bird that comes to mind that I think could make a big impact in the next year or two. Ron, are there animals that retire, like humans in the sense that like, they know this is the end of my life,

let me move to like this other destination and that's where I'm gonna kind of live out the rest of my life? I'm washed. You know, it's not like they move from New York to Florida. No, it's not like that. But there are animals that know when they're coming towards end of life,

they start distancing themselves often from the herd or from the pride. Lions will go off on their own. Elephants will often go off on their own and kind of pass away in solitude. Another thing that is always very curious, ever wonder where birds go to die? Because that's one of the biggest curious questions

I've always had. You don't generally see dead birds anywhere. And yet there's thousands of them flying all over the place. Where do these birds go to die? That's an interesting, for me, I've always wanted to do a big study on that. Ron, what animal smells the best? You know what else smells really good? It's called a Binturong. It smells like butter popcorn. Nice. It's a really cool smell. Yeah, the Binturong. Butter popcorn is what it smells like.

What is that? What kind of animal is that? That's an omnivore. They call it the bear cat. You know, Google it. You'll see it's in the family all its own. It looks horrifying. I don't want to judge this book by its cover. Well, it smells like butter popcorn.

It smells wonderful. Is it possible birds don't die no birds die i think not what's possible but i'm longer than others but really what do they ever die in midair and literally fall from the sky that there's a better on and they do they they do uh... you know it's happened some of these these phenomena that have happened in europe like huge storms all the sudden literally it is rained dead birds like hundreds of them fall out of

the sky dead. Are birds subject to heart attacks? Yes they are. Wow. Wow. Can they do anything to prevent it, like a pill or exercise or anything? What does birds do to exercise aside from flying, I guess?

Well that's pretty good exercise, Billy, think about it. Yeah it is. I've never done it. Are there aviary cardiologists? Is that like a specialty? All right, I'm gonna go to this video i'm gonna go to this video are real quick of this man in florida of course it's a man in florida and he's wrestling with bare hands and with bare feet

he's wrestling in the street in the middle of the road uh... in a flannel shirt and a trucker hat uh... a gator in eight-footfoot gator. He's an MMA fighter. He went viral last year for trapping a different gator in a school parking lot, and according to Fox 35 Jacksonville, he was attending a hockey game with his family when the Sheriff's Office alerted the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission about the gator disturbing the peace, so they dispatched this guy because he's an official alligator trapper. What do you do with this video

uh... you know it's it's a look at me louis as you guys would uh... very this is it you know he's experienced catching alligators uh... what i have done it in their feet no but what he's doing there is not as extraordinary as it seems except we try to pick it up like that, that was not very smart because that alligator could thrash his head and bash him in the skull with its own. Even though the mouth is taped shut, that head is pretty much solid bone and skin, and when he thrashes back and forth, if you hit him on the side of the head, it'd be better than any hit he's ever had in any MMA fight. It could have broken his skull.

I saw a video the other day of somebody that was harassing a gator who was all tied up that way and then they tried to put him on a truck and it started thrashing and it knocked him out with its head because its head is just it's just a weapon correct? That's exactly right it's like a huge batch the solid heavy so him lifting it up you know him getting on the alligator taping the mouth shut that's a that's a pretty standard process anybody who has experience it's not anything extraordinary but then him picking Him lifting it up, you know him getting on the alligator, taping the mouth shut, that's a pretty standard process. Anybody who has experience, it's not anything extraordinary. But then him picking it up the way he did like that,

was just, that was a look at me, Louie. That was, look at me MMA fighter, macho man. Ron, you were rooting for the gator there, weren't you? Against that guy. When he picked it up, yeah, I was kind of rooting that gator, with whacking on the head. Yeah, me too. It just knocked out cold on the road.

That would have been the perfect ending. Yes sir, hello. I've got another video for you from Montana. I was not aware that there were still traveling circuses, but evidently there are still traveling circuses. Put it on the poll, please, at Lebatard Show. Did you know that there were still traveling circuses? But evidently an elephant just got loose here in the street

and yeah, this is very dangerous right yeah familiar with the story uh... there was a huge backfire of an automobile sound like a big gun gun going off and so that got spooked and just started to walk away from the trainers and trainers on backing got it uh... and like you you know i'm still surprised that we have these traveling animal services i mean circuses there are many traveling

circuses circus away type things but they still have animals like these exotic animals like elephants that is surprising to me and I know that they you know they don't have a ton of attention. Why are you guys laughing so hard? I mean you could see an elephant walk through a parking lot. The Stugats is legitimately delighted by this because there was something like horrible and sad and out of the past about that elephant walking past in Montana, an incredibly sad casino

and through a parking lot casually. It's just weird. Yeah, the elephant went into a 7-Eleven and bought a pack of cigarettes. But my question to Ron is this. That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to. We all just stared at you. It didn't land at all. How wanted it to do it and we all just stared at you.

We didn't land at all. How much effort would it take for an elephant to knock over a large car? It would not be simple for a full grown elephant? It wouldn't be simple, but it's certainly doable. You know, we've all seen the videos of these big bulls. Now this is a smaller Asian elephant. She didn't have any tusks or anything. She could certainly damage and rock a vehicle. I don't know about flipping

it over, but she can certainly do a lot of damage. But you know, we've all seen the videos of those big bulls in Africa that flip these massive land rovers. You are such a hack. You are such a hack because you're like, hey, he bought a cup of coffee. And then you forgot what your question was because you're joking smokes Cigarettes it's not my you know I Open smoke, but Dan and I were on this Dan and I were on the said casino though. You're a hack We were doing casino bit you had to get in with him

Can you imagine the elephant smoking cigarettes if the elephant goes in the casino? They're allowed to smoke in cash through using his apple card no yes run to elephant smoke no they don't believe oh that's why they live so long am i right hack 7-eleven pack of smokes you didn't even have a question after that. You were playing to the crowd. You were chewing finger guns to the crowd. Hey guys, how funny am I? An elephant smoking heaters. Isn't that funny? Went in and bought them himself with currency.

Where does he keep the coins? Imagine how big a cigarette would be to be corollary to an elephant. You know, like a cigarette here in my mouth. How big would a cigarette be in an elephant's mouth? It would be the size of like a baseball bat, right? Yeah. Something like that. Would it use its trunk to take it out of its mouth?

I don't know. Thank you, thank you, Ron. The size of a baseball bat. I really think. Thank you, Ron. You're right. Good luck with the rest of the show, Ron. Thank you, Ron, thank you.

Been looking for those for a long time. Thank you, Ron. An elephant can grip a cigarette. Thank you, Ron. I believe that. Thank you, Ron. Thank you. Been looking for those for a long time. An elephant can grip a cigarette. Thank you, Ron. Thank you. An elephant can pick up a penny and it can... Hey everybody, it's Mike and typically I record these Miller Lite spots in the studio, but I requested

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