The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Twins Who Share a Brain

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

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Cuervo. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Longtime observers of this particular program have seen that Billy Gill is an agent of chaos purposely

in a way that makes him one of the most popular characters in show history. And when Mike Ryan and Zaslow and Roy do the hockey analysis, which does amuse me, I understand it, but it amuses me, that Marchand brings activity. Like just as an idea,

I understand exactly what you're saying. And I also understand why you guys think with two months off, Kachak and Ekblad might also bring activity. I want to just take inventory. Billy's been off for seven days, and in the first hour he's taken out the Lightning, Method Man, and Mark Cuban. Two of them have been described as ain't shit.

And Billy- Who did I say that about? Mark Cuban and the Lightning. I don't think I said Mark Cuban. Coding you directly, please. I believe he's I said Mark Cuban. Quoting you directly. Please, I'm- I believe he's full of shit. Thank you, that's a fine. That was it, yeah.

And, I mean, nevermind. Okay, good effort. Is that a fine? I saw that inside the NBA, accidentally killed someone this past weekend. That's a fine. Did you see that, Dan? I did not.

Oh, it was Billy Ray Gates? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Billy Ray Cyrus is with Elizabeth Hurley Dan? I did not. Oh, it was, was it Billy Ray Gates? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Billy Ray Cyrus is with Elizabeth Hurley now. I saw that. What? Wow. Interesting reaction to that triangle of gossip. The three of you just enjoyed there.

I didn't see any of what was happening in that corner coming where you guys are just gossiping the way you would around the fridge out there. Billy, you've been cantankerous. What is happening with you? I have bronchitis. How was the time off? Why are you in a foul mood?

What's happening with you? I'm just, I'm under the weather, but I'm here. I'm, you know, a teammate. I have bronchitis, I have gastroenteritis, and just, you know, taking up, yeah, exactly right. Not senioritis, I'm here, friends, I'll tell you that right now, I'm working. I'm here to work.

It's just, you know, I'm trying to have fun with the hockey playoffs, and no one here wants to have fun around hockey, we just want to do a serious hockey show all of a sudden, like we're on TSN or something, what's going on here? There is some trouble here between the tensions. Roy, you laugh at this, but this is the conundrum, I would say, Billy speaks for the audience here,

on the infiltration of hockey coverage the last couple of years, when this space has been kind of blissfully hockey free, except for us every once in a while. Every couple of years. We're over gaming soon. Every couple of years, it's like, man, hockey's fun. And that's how we covered hockey for about 30 years

before the last three years. Check the table Unbelievable, it's a professional sport in North America I know but the audience doesn't want it the way we're giving it. We're doing a preview show right now for a Tampa Bay Tampa Bay Florida game that I don't think Billy and Jessica have any interest in and and they're not alone I don't think I'll be watching. I don't think Tony has any interest. I don't think Jeremy has any interest. Why do you do this all the time with Hockey? Like, we did fun bit on the front end.

He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. He's just talking shit, just making waves, trying to get decontextualized and have this be bulletin board material even though he's not even watching. Like we're doing the nonsense. We're saying Brad Morchanand is a bad person. Just a bad person.

Don't love me. Don't love me. Don't love me. You sound like an old timey radio guy all of a sudden. We've been doing like show, but also said, hey, remember last year when Kucherov was solely neutralized? Wonder if they could do that again. They brought in Jake Gintel.

This is a guy that can disappear at times. So it's not the same tape of Bait Lightning. We covered this well before. Zaslow had the perfect words. They knew Trava was a Banajad. And they don't know what they're talking about. Say? For some reason, you slipped into that.

Billy Ray Bates, not Gates. So find me, but I'm not $50 because I didn't claim that he was dead, like inside the NBA did. And then they had to issue an apology And it was a whole thing. I actually have the sound of NBA on TNT apologizing and we welcome you back We would like to issue a correction and an apology for something that happened last night on inside the NBA We were talking about Billy Ray Bates who back in 1980 had one of the NBA's best playoff debuts coming off

the bench with 29 points. In the course of our discussion, we passed on some bad information that Billy Ray Bates had passed away. While it was inadvertent, it was also inaccurate and insensitive and inexcusable. In short, we screwed up, and we apologize to Billy Ray Bates and his family. Obviously very sincere from Ernie Johnson, but I just like the idea that somebody one night calls Billy Ray Bates, he talked about you and inside the NBA.

It's like, whoa, yeah, they said you're dead. You guys do understand that Ernie Johnson earned his money right there. They send him out. Yeah, enough with the rodeo cleanse. Yeah, Shaq has to go to the bathroom. But when we kill somebody, as a show, inadvertently, we send Ernie out with sincere remorse.

And everyone's like, that's an apology. It was super professional. And everyone backs off. And the joke is gone. And you can't do anything with it, because Ernie's the neutralizer there and he helps bring a gravitas to everybody just fooling around.

I would argue that because of him, they can make the joke because they can just be like, he'll clean this up for us. We can be as glib as we want. Also, Billy Ray Bates is only 68, so they're killing someone who's not, he's still in his prime. It's the danger of live television,

and it's one of the reasons that show is so great, and there's, unlike anything in the history of sports, something that exists between and around games to just carry you for four, five, six hours. Has 68 ever been described as someone's prime? I think 68 is the new 58. We, we. Was 58 ever considered someone's prime? When think 68 is the new 58. We, uh, we- Was 58 ever considered someone's prime?

When it became the new 48. I was gonna say, 58 I've heard is the new 48. Did you guys see George Clooney? He looks like shit, huh? He does. Like that dyed black hair, when he said- Thought the same thing. When he said, I'm 63, I go, wow, you look damn near 85.

Why did you do this? Really? Can you believe he's only 63? He looks horrific for 63. This show loves to talk about the attractiveness of men while I'm just sitting here listening to all of your opinions. He has a bad dye job. I'm sorry, men can't think men are attractive. Of course they can. Geez Louise. You are the arbiters. That's a terrible picture of him. That's what he looks like. It's not a magic camera. That's what he looks like.

I'm with Jess though, it's the hair dye. It's the dye and this is terrible. My father should not look more attractive than George Clooney. That is a rule of my life, my entire life. And he does now because of what George Clooney did to his head. It's for a role.

Let's see what your dad looks like. I mean, George Clooney. What my dad looks like? Yeah. George Clooney has been the most transparent dude when it comes to embracing his gray hair. His skin's literally transparent in that picture. Yeah. So what changed it? It's for, he's doing that for a role. Like he looks worse because the role, yes,

it's a bad dye job. It's supposed to be. He's on Broadway, right? Yeah, it's a Broadway role. That's why everyone's like, wow, what a clear, obvious high job. Yeah, it is George Clooney's never been embarrassed of his gray hair in fact he made it look sexy as hell can we have a dad off right now I'd like Mike Ryan's dad up there And I'd like a picture of Billy's dad as well next to George Clooney George Clooney is meant to look like something that exists in The age of the flappers that looks like a character from the 1920s that looks like a prohibition character.

I'm guessing he's making a movie in the 1930s. You have now taken out George Clooney as well. Did he look good there? No, he did not look good. It looked like. They'll be spittin' today. It looked like a wax figure of George Clooney or a eye of George Clooney.

George Clooney is allowed to age. But guys, this is like looking at a pic of Dallas Buyers Club and say, wow, McConaughey aged like shit. He did. Do you think when he's out like that, does he whisper to people as he walks by, it's for a role?

It's for a role! The interview was he was promoting the role! I mean, you made like a billion dollars on your tequila. Don't take roles that make you look like crap. Billy, you're- Just go enjoy your money, enjoy your rich lawyer wife as well, and go and live your life in Italy or wherever you live And like what is what is he besides ego? What does George Clooney need to do movies for at this point in time?

But at least the diet the Dallas Buyers Club that role was like a drug addict like is this role that Clooney's playing He's wearing like a suit and it's supposed to look like a nice person and he looks terrible like yeah Is he a drug addict? No. No, and he doesn't have AIDS in this one. George Clooney is supposed to be playing Edward R. Morrow. This is Good Night and Good Luck. Oh, I mean, he kinda looks like him.

I'm not gonna, I mean, this is good casting. Yes! Good casting! Well, what Billy is doing, though, not understanding why George Clooney would wanna make movies is, and it's understandable, but some people do like to work, Billy, like some people do enjoy working and making things. Rich people do love to work the most though.

And also, they have to work the least, so figure that one out. It does make more sense after I see what Edward R. Murrow looks like. Yeah. It's kinda what he's going for. Facts, do that. I mean, you guys wanna have no fun today, huh?

Well, you've taken out four people, three of them by comparing them to shit, so you're- But normally people follow you down the path and we like to laugh. Yes and. You're complaining about our yes and. That's interesting. Sorry, we're not buying in.

That's an interesting thing to hear. The Clippers last night, Zaslow, I don't know what we're gonna do with this when we have to go back in time and say that Ty Lue has won a championship, James Harden has won a championship, and Kawhi Leonard is the only thing that existed in the LeBron age that made him look over his shoulder

and say I fear him coming into a game Because he's got those giant hands. I don't think people understand this is the last person to win by himself in the league that has a bunch of super teams all around it and He did it not physically capable. He broke down during that run. I think the only thing that can stop the Clippers this year is some sort of health issue, because what they put on the floor last night, I think can beat anybody,

and Jokic is telling you after the game. Remember in the bubble when I told you guys that that Utah Denver series in the first round is the best basketball I've ever seen in my life. Just Utah and Denver with Donovan Mitchell on Utah going back and forth. It was the most perfect, beautiful basketball I've ever seen. Jokic is telling you after last night's game, that's the best that basketball can be played. And Kawhi Leonard took him out.

This is my favorite thing about the NBA playoffs because literally game to game, the swing of the pendulum is so extreme. And while I agree with everything you just said, because Kawhi Leonard looks like the best player in the NBA right now, and Jokic was in that same game, and the Clippers look like a championship team, but man, like, isn't there still this cloud hanging over all of us?

Like, yeah, at any minute it can end for them. You can't trust it. At any minute. No, but it can't be trusted, but it's why I'm rooting for it so much, because what the hell is the analysis going to be after that wins? Like, oh, we weren't talking about them at all all season. And we thought that the Paul George trade when Kaaii went there was going to be a big deal in it hasn't been but the clippers are no longer laughing stock and are in the most successful uh...

run that the clippers have ever had as a franchise because the trade kinda work but it also made okc better and you will have to acknowledge if the clippers win the championship the clippers when the championship. The Clippers win the championship. What a stupid thing to say. It's a ridiculous, it's an asinine thing to say. It's an asinine thing to say. But they can really confuse every analyst talking about basketball. It would be the most confusing title winner there's ever been. It'd be really confusing with Harden, who's been good for them and has been one of those

rare superstars that goes to Los Angeles and becomes less of a star. It got quiet around James Harden because he wasn't, I guess, holding teams hostage like he usually did. He is hugely invaluable to what they do on offense and with the Kawhi thing, it's shocking when Kawhi plays like that. It's somehow less shocking if it's announced he's out for game three, and we didn't know it. Like, he is such a unique case study, I don't think anyone has faith that he could actually do this for an entire playoff run.

Oh, but you root for it, do you not? Or is it- We'd love to see it, because it would be hugely confusing. The part beyond that on confusing, so you've got this part where what are they doing in the middle of the conference? Is this going to be a thing now where the Mavericks can do it one year from the middle of the conference and all you really do need to have is veterans? But the other part of it that's going to be impossible to get your arms around on face of the league on I'm not sure about the Celtics is Kawhi James Harden and Zubak are giving you nothing in the way of personality like personality where I

Okay, I'll make a New Balance commercial around Kawhi, but he won't say anything and like in terms of Star power giving you charisma. They will give you less per square foot than any stardom champion in that entire sport. I'm really curious to see who makes a deeper run, who makes a finals run, because if you stack up the last few years in the NBA in terms of the teams that get to the finals, it's been really unpredictable. Compared to the NBA that we grew up watching.

Well, it's six straight years, different champs, which has never, ever happened. It's crazy, and just think of these runs. Miami Heat doing it as an eight seed, a random NBA final seemingly, with the Suns and Bucks in the middle of it. In the day and age of player rest and load management and play-ins, teams are approaching the regular season way differently to the point that they can make people sound really foolish with their analysis because these teams themselves aren't taking it seriously and now, for the first time in our lives, they can actually

make a run from one of those lower seeds. But this is different though, right, with Kawhi? Because it used to be, hey, you know, it would be the worst case scenario if Team X wins the NBA Finals because, you know, the player has been resting, hasn't played throughout the season, load management and all that BS. But that's not what's happening with Kawhi Leonard, right? Like we look like we can clearly understand that this is a guy who has a chronic severe issue with his knee That is correct so much so that it broke apart his relationship with the Spurs where he won

championships and I would say that what it is that he did last night is Remind you that if he can do that Across three or four series, you know, that's as good as Can be played you know that he can take out anybody if he's that the problem with aging is he's 33 And we know those are nubs like when we saw him win the championship, getting to those final games, you know, you get Kevin Durant blows a tire, Klay Thompson blows a tire, and at the end, hobbled, after making Joel Embiid cry and knocking out Jimmy Butler, Kawhi Leonard wins, but it's with Old Man Game because this run through these teams in this

conference you cannot bet on that to stay healthy and be that every night. We were saying it during the run and occasionally they'll show those games on NBA TV and it's so strange to watch Kawhi Leonard dominate a series. When you think about the players that were on that court and history will remember that finals for who wasn't on the court but he very rarely has two feet off the ground in that entire series. You can't slide a phone book under his feet. He has zero explosion and he is still unguardable, putting a team on his shoulders. And by the way, all those numbers you see in the box last night, I mean 15 of 19, 39

points, there's so much more that doesn't show up in that box score that he is doing out there. Like if you're paying it, he is dominating the entire game right now. It's hard, there has never been a superstar in this sport. Never, not one that has all of these things where Stephen A is comfortable on television calling him a thief and saying it's the worst contract's higher it's the worst contract that he should retire that it's the worst contract he's ever seen

crushing and kawaii never speaks back doesn't show you much in the way of personality the physical size of his hands and the amount of strength that he has this person is on the cusp of having a legacy that's mythical that you ain't gonna be able to explain to any of your kids.

Wasn't there that one replay one year where he blocked someone's dunk with his finger? Remember, they slowed down the replay and just his finger was on the ball and blocked the dunk. He's ridiculously strong and we've forgotten about him and it's fun to have somebody as a mercenary appear Let's see these photos right now of George Clooney Billy's dad and Mike Ryan's dad

I believe we've got a dad off. Yes. We've got a dad off dad enough great game last night You know, I think su gods can finally say he looks like Clooney Billy's dad easily if this is what we're working with I like Clooney. And not be totally off base. Billy's dad easily, if this is what we're working with. I think Clooney's third. Clooney's in third place. Clooney's the bronze medalist as Edward R. Murrow. Is he obsessed with Edward R. Murrow?

Didn't he play Fred Friendly in Good Night and Good Luck? Didn't Pablo win an Edward R. Murrow award of some sort? Does Chris know who Edward R. Murrow is? I'd know, but tell Roy. What? Now tell him. I know. He's a third liner for Tampa. Folks, listen up. They're here and they're hot.

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I thought that we were better than the lightning and we didn't give the lightning any mind This is loser mentality Last year shirt was World War three. Yeah, our group chat has a good feeling about this one The pan the lightning the lightning aren't shit to me. I'm just gonna come right out and tell you right now We have surpassed the lightning. They're not a formidable foe. They're a joke. Stugats. I don't take them seriously at all formidable foe, they're a joke. Stugats! I don't take them seriously at all. Strike me by lightning.

I don't care. Nothing's gonna happen to me. Lightning or soft, I'm not giving them any mind. I'm not paying attention to them this series. On to the next round. This is the Dunlavatar Show with the Stugats! Why don't you guess, Chris, let's play the game. I would like to play the game, the new game with Chris Cody of guess a famous historical figure what it is that they did or do. Get me what your thoughts are, Chris, on all things Edward know what our Murrow just who do you think he is? What does that sound like to you?

We'll give you some time here to think about it. Don't check the computer in the interim Billy because you want to have fun I'm gonna entertain you with a bat flip I'm gonna give you a bat flip here so that you can enjoy you can enjoy today's show Despite your sickness. Do you believe that this is the greatest bat flip in the history of bat flips? Whoa. And for the audio audience, it is as cartoonish a bat flip

as you could possibly imagine. It is Red Sox prospect Alex Lugo had a walk off ground rule double and threw the ball into outer space. You know, like the shot. The bat, the bat, threw the bat. That bat is 100 feet in the air. Yeah, when you zoom out, like in a baseball game, to see what would be a home run,

that you lose view of the hitter, this bat comes into that shot, goes out of the top of that shot, and then comes back down because of how high he threw the bat. This bat is making the same wee noise that Kevin Durant made when he was going down the slide in France this summer.

I wanted to talk about camera work here because if you haven't seen the studio on Apple+, it's tremendous and the way that they're filming it is really unusual. They're just using like a couple of handheld cameras and it looks pristine. It looks more expensive and beautiful than anything you've seen on video.

This minor league footage, grainy as it is, It looks pristine, it looks more expensive and beautiful than anything you've seen on video. This minor league footage, grainy as it is, the lack of cameras here absolutely make this the shot that it is because they've only got two cameras, one in front of the plate and one behind the plate. When they go out to show you where the ball is going in center field, you see the bat come into the frame and it looks like it's being thrown three hundred feet into the sky

like legitimately i didn't think that the physics of that would allow him to throw that underhanded that high i think from that angle it looks like it has to be thrown overhand like it has to be thrown as as far as someone can throw a bat. I now want the other angle to see how he got the bat that high. Yeah, there's no way he meant to throw it that high, right? How do you accidentally do that?

I mean, it's pretty intentional. I think he just flipped and he was excited. Billy, there's no way that's what, you think that happened with one hand, one arm? Look at the wrists. Oh no, I think that happened with one hand that one arm. Oh, no, I they're strong then I think that was both hands. I think he took that between his legs granny style I flipped it up with but yes, we got to call him and find out We got I got to find out about this because we don't have a camera angle because it's the minor leagues that we don't have access

To more footage here. Thank you, Billy. Was there a brawl after? No, it was the end of the game, it was a walk off. I think there still should have been a brawl. Oh. In the celebration? Yeah. During the celebration? It's obscene that bat flip. Yes, yes it is. Hopefully he's not in, like his team's not in

the first base dugout, cause I imagine the players running out onto the field to celebrate and there's a bat, like all of a sudden they're having to dodge a bat. Let me ask you guys this question because we are headed into a whole bunch of national anthems, a bunch of patriotic pride, a bunch of Canada doesn't like the United States right now for a lot of very valid reasons,

and last night before a hockey game, if I say to you in the hypothetical, everybody in this room, how do you guys feel about harmonicas as a national anthem? Do you guys feel like that will work as a concept or not work? Harmonicas. For the American national, the Star Spangled Banner?

For our national anthem, thank you. I'm gonna hear it out. I'm glad that you're open-minded about this. I'm gonna say dozens, dozens of harmonicas. Do you guys like this idea or think it's a bad idea? Let's make it just, I don't know how many harmonicas. I see three on the screen. Let's see what we've got here. Oh, what a wonderful day!

Oh, what a wonderful day! Oh, what a wonderful day! Oh, what a wonderful day! Oh, what a wonderful day! How do we feel so far about this? Roy, what are you laughing about? A terrible idea poorly executed, correct? All the players are shaking their heads right now. Well, but it's just terrible.

It's not moving. It's not patriotic. It's just squeaky. The crowd singing. Yeah. So you guys like this? I think the harmonic... It's just squeaky. The crowd singing. Yeah. So you guys like this? I think the harmonica-

It looks like a bunch of Asian grandmas too. The harmonica's not a star. The harmonica can't, it's not a one. The harmonica's a two or a three or a four. You can't win the anthem with the harmonica as your number one. I don't like it. You gave it a chance. We appreciate that

You find it disrespectful it just it sounds like they're playing the tunes on play school toys Chris Cody who is Edward or Murrow? He clearly is the man that invented the microwave. Yes Yeah He clearly is the man that invented the microwave. Yes. Oh, for fuck's sake. I like this game. I'd like to ask you some more questions. Before you do so, can I get another angle on that bat flip? Can I get an answer to my question? What are the bets? You guys are still betting that's a one-armed bat flip?

What is, I'm gonna guess two-armed. Do we have proof here? Let's see. We do have proof. This is very good. a third camera angle. That's so minor league baseball. It's just so good. Eight K.

Pitch clock, I mean, you just wind up. I'm the only one who says it's both arms, right? Oh, he did it. It's clearly just his right arm. Just his right arm. I think it was left arm. No. So strong. I think it was left arm, he went up, it stayed in this hand and went up with it. I thought it was left and. No, I think it was left arm He went up with it stayed in this hand and went up with it

I thought it was left and it was kind of underhand like a little back was it wasn't even that hard for him to do He really flipped it the hell up there without much strength at all Do we have video of the brawl that ensued it should have been sued Mike go ahead and quiz Chris Cody on Historical figures that he's not likely to know after taking out notaries yesterday, even though his mom is the head of a big law firm. Think my mom's dealing with notaries. Chris Cody, do you know who Henry Kissinger is?

He invented kissing. Yeah, that's right. How about Jimmy Hoffa? Jimmy Hoffa is one of the first broadcasters in sports history. Yeah. Ugh. Do you know who George Orwell is?

He invented wells. Ores, sorry. Manuel Noriega. Ah, Manuel. What was that? I don't know what that, that one I don't know. The other ones I all knew. You know Woodward and Bernstein?

All right, we'll come back to this. Wait other ones I all knew. You know Woodward and Bernstein? All right, we'll come back to this. Wait, I got one more. Rachel Phelps. Actress. She's the fictional owner of the Cleveland Indians, Major League. Oh, and you were actually the closest on.

Terry Bollea. We will come back in a second. Zazzle, what are you smirking about? We will come back in a second. Zazla, what are you smirking about? We will come back in a second to grilling Chris Cody on things he doesn't know. It's an endless stream. But before we do that, I wanna ask you guys if this is real. What I'm about to show you if it's real,

because I am getting fooled by the internet all the time, as we know around here, the aging process is cruel. And so I have to double and triple check whether things are real and I thought this was a bit I thought that somebody was acting and I'm I'm really confused by two twins who are answering a question here about a crime that that happened in Australia a carjacking, and these are two identical twins. They're being interviewed by a reporter, and I didn't think this was a thing. I didn't think this was a possible. I thought I was being fooled by the internet. It felt like two twins are sharing a brain, even though they're not they're not Siamese

twins. They're just identical identical twins so explain to me how this can possibly be real only to find the gun wielding car thief emerging from the wreck here's some of what they had to say and one guy he was up there with our mom and he he went up there and he was coming back down towards us and he goes run he's got a gun and oh our hearts started to pound and I said well mum where's mum and poor mum was stuck up there by the pound with you our brave mum she goes are you alright because he had all blood all over his face and he goes, I'll shoot you. She goes, hey, I'm here to help. And mum distracted him to make him look the other way.

And he looked the other way and mum ran into the bush behind the fence. And the guy goes to her, I'll find you and I'll shoot you. All I was thinking about when we were running, I hope he doesn't fire. Yeah, we were so blessed. How close to him do you think you were? Well, see, he was up there.

And we were past our drive way. You don't think of all of that at the time. No, you just run for your life. Run for your safety. Mm-hmm. That is amazing, disorienting, awe-inspiring, super creepy. And I don't understand it.

So I Googled this because I saw this online and I was like, this is probably from some like parody show that I'm unaware of it can't be real but apparently according to people.com they're well known in Queensland for running an animal rescue organization and they were the subject of a 2016 good morning britain segment in which Piers Morgan laughed at their synchronized answers so this is this sort of uh I don't know if you call it a bit but this sort of schtick thing has been has been their thing for a while now. Now, my wife is a twin,

and there are times where my wife and her sister are in the same room, and you ask a question, and they will say a single answer in unison, where you're like, that's weird. But this is just that times 50. There is a brain being shared there in a way that I don't understand, and I don't even want to mock simply because I don't understand it.

None of us understand it, right? Like I'm introducing this to people and next to nobody knows or understands what's happening there, right? Who the hell can understand that? I don't like it. I don't like it. You don't like it? Is it the accent you don't understand? Or nerve. Okay, so I'm gonna try and articulate what he's not articulating. I'm with Zazz.

Well, see, I don't feel like I should be with Zazz, but there's something in there that's haunting, right? Do you like it? I mean, I like it as content. I like being disoriented by it. I like how awkward and confused it makes us. I don't like it. I like the discomfort of it.

I like how far away from the microphone Mike is. You don't like it. He's just chilling back here, it's weird. Can you please just medically explain to me, because what is happening there, my guess is that this is something that a handful or some twins can do? Well, doctor, I can't diagnose it

from the video that I saw, but it did seem like one was trailing. Yeah. Great deal. One was the leader. It seems like a case of the repeaties. Yeah. Where you repeat what the other person next to you is saying.

Wow, so you're calling them frauds. You guys are calling them, you're calling this some form of grift that they can act this out. It's impressive what they're doing, honestly. They've clearly done media before and this might just be their thing. I'm sure there's some synchronicity,

but it looks like it's a bit amplified from that video because you can see one twins looking at the other's mouth. Billy, they're calling, I mean, I am now uncomfortable. Hold on a second, because this is like... Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good. What's the accusation you're making?

The accusation is that there might be some synchronicity, but they amplify it because it's their thing. It's my allegation. Did you know the CIA declassified a UFO report that said there were three small beings that came out, formed one being, looked at 20 plus Soviet soldiers and turned them into stone? I have less of a problem understanding that. That should get some coverage.

We should cover that. Things are moving fast in terms of the- It's crazy, they're declassified. It's like the plot of The Hobbit, Mike. I just simply don't believe that that is true. Check it out for yourself, man. It's out there. It's on Easter Island. It was out there.

It was, those weren't the Soviets. And you know, we found the Ark of the Covenant and we're just all moving on with our lives. They found it in the 80s and the CIA report was like it's guarded by an entity and you know this stuff is out there. We don't know what to do with it. There is an amount of information that is now just we are being bombarded by and an amount of misinformation of not knowing what's real and what's not. Are those twins acting? Are they grifters or is that just a shared brain?

There's so much out there right now that all of us are being flooded by it, and you cannot keep up with all of the things that are happening in the world. They turn to stone. They turn to stone. This is, not since Sodom and Gomorrah have we seen anything like that.

Let's lighten it up a little bit around here. Stugatz yesterday, yesterday Stugatz was just killing wrestling is fake. That was his take. And Jasla wanted to celebrate John Cena, 17 time champion. I know Mike Ryan wants to celebrate WrestleMania. We can do it better than Stugatz just simply saying it's fake. I got a bone to pick with Stugats. Stugats made it seem like he hooked me up

with dead-end company tickets. We covered some of this yesterday, and people agreed that Stugats got you tickets, and I was like, I don't think that's getting him tickets. No, like, I checked. I could've gotten the same ticket on the primary market. Oh, then never mind. See, no, he made it seem like that only available

were really expensive second market and he got you face value. Yeah. Which is, you would admit, if that's what he did, that is getting somebody. No, no, he gave me GA tickets and I literally cross-referenced it. Cause it was expensive, so like, okay.

Lied, you got painted it as he got you face value when all that was available was second market. That's... No, no, no, trust me. No, no, we're not, we believe you, trust me. And then he was complaining that I wanted, that I'm the worst person to get tickets for. Again, I paid for the tickets

because I wanted to know all the details. I'm sorry I wanted to know where I pick up my tickets. I literally traveled in that day and had no idea how to actually get the tickets you said you got for me that I could have avoided all this hassle by just going to the primary market. Well what happens, does he say to you, I got you tickets and then he thinks,

it's alright, go find them? I mean, I never really thought that he wouldn't come through with the tickets, but I was kind of anticipating some Stu Gotzi type of mess around it, but I do know that when he sees a debt all the time, when Stu legitimately wants to get tickets, he can purchase them with relativies because he has someone direct to go through there. So I was just trying to go through Stu because he's always offered, but he didn't hook me up.

What were you expecting though? Like as far as a hookup? I got exactly what I expected. I would have preferred like a better deal. Like he kept saying like face value. Yeah, there were tickets available for face value. I'm not actually interested in the details as much as I'm interested in your appraisal

of did he get you tickets or did he not get you tickets? Cause he told people he got you tickets and in doing so it was made to look like he hooked you up. Like yes I understand how the optics of well Mike you went to see debting company on Thursday and he got you the tickets on Thursday yeah but I asked for it months earlier and I could have gotten the debting company tickets months earlier for myself had I not had a Stu gots element I would have been responsible had the same tickets. You're making faces during this.

Your appraisal is what. I don't know what these faces mean. I know, I'm just listening to the story for the first time. I don't have any backstory, but it sounds like he said he was gonna do something, and then you said you got exactly what you expected from him, so I don't really understand the gripe. Well, the gripe is how-

You want him to go above and beyond what you expected. My gripe is how he's presenting it, like he went over go above and beyond with you know my gripe is how he's presenting it like he went over above and beyond When he just like sent an email to a guy that I paid full price for tickets And I didn't get like any extra access like and all I asked for him like he made me sound like some hound He wouldn't tell me where I could pick up my tickets I think I was pretty chill about it in

Journalism and I still want to get to Resilmania with you, you like to have two sources to confirm a story and another source has just written in, he did it to me with Nick's heat when I asked for tickets for my birthday. Well no, that person, I know exactly who is sending you that because I know that story. Don't give away my source.

I'm not gonna say, that person wanted him to give him tickets for free and what he did was he connected him with the person that gets tickets for him and then he was surprised when he had to pay for tickets because he was asking for free tickets from StuGuts. That's a fair question though, if someone's offering to hook you up with tickets does it imply they're paying for said tickets? This is the question I'm asking. How rich are they? This is an important thing. If they're rich, then I kind of expect them to pay.

I mean, but you guys are all adults. Like you just reach out to people asking them to give you free tickets. I think the wording is important. Hook you up with tickets implies pumped. Set you up with tickets means there's an avenue for you to get the ticket. This is a semantics thing.

I went through Sugats because he always said anytime you wanna see the dead, hit me up. Oh yeah, he says that a lot. So I'm thinking like, oh, there's like some unique special access that I wouldn't have normal. Like I was in a will call place that was for friends and family, but it just meant the line that I didn't know

I had to go to until hours before the event would be shorter. That's the only convenience that I got. And totally good with that. I'm good paying with tickets. I'm good with all of that. This is exactly what I expected down to the Sugats experience, but don't paint it as you hooked me up with something like that.

I was just, I could have gone through some other guy. Billy, I'm still unclear on your appraisal because where do you side in all of this? It seems like you're- I'm just an impartial observer, just taking it all in. You asked Dugas to get you tickets. He told you the place to get tickets. You didn't have to wait in a line.

You say you're not upset about it, but you seem upset about it. Because he lied. He made it seem like something he's not, when I could have just gone to Game Time. You downloaded the Game Time app. What do you expect? I expected everything that I got outside of him just presenting it one way on the air. Because Game Time, I actually used Game Time last night. I went to Monday Night Raw and I went to Game Time and I got tickets to Monday Night Raw.

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