The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The U is Back...To Work

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

Mike Ryan attached himself to the project of revamping the Miami Hurricanes, and after he has clearly built an overwhelming power all by himself, Dan Le Batard wants to hear his thoughts on one of the best offensive starts the Canes have ever had. That said, Mike and the rest of the program are back to work with reasonable expectations and a (hopefully) packed house at The Rock this Friday against Virginia Tech. Then, Dan and Stu pay tribute to Mercury Morris, Brock Bowers needs to shave his head, and it might be too hot to play football. Plus, is it enough as a college football coach to just be...great at coaching? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this show. The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. Mike Ryan Stugots did not go because he is now traveling with the Hurricanes.

And if you've been following this, yes, I don't think there are many fans nationally who have attached themselves to this project in Miami the way that Mike has traveling with the team. Largely, you know, the history of University of Miami football, they don't travel great. Even when they're really good, I'm sure that Mike Ryan is traveling with a group of people that he's gotten to know because they're among the few that go to a lot of the hurricane games. And so Miami goes up to South Florida and puts up a 50 spot. So Cam Lord has now started with more, more yardage to gots in the first four games than any quarterback in twenty five years for the universe and i am a easy i'd lose those the last one testiverty like it's twenty five years since a quarterback started this way at

miami i'm i'm guessing it's pre-dorsi dorsey to start this way to corey got out to a hot start. 25 years is what they're saying. It hasn't been this, 300 yards, four straight games. They've also scored more points than any point in four games to start a season in the history of the program. The fewest amount of points they have

in a game this season is 41. It's absurd, Dan. You get a true freshman, Jordan Lyle, clearly being faster than all of South Florida's players and South Florida's players, Dan. You get a true freshman, Jordan Lyle, clearly being faster than all of South Florida's players and South Florida's players are fast. That offense can be good against everybody. That part is easy to see. Maybe someone in the future will have pass rush

that gives them problems. Maybe there'll be a turnover issue, but there is no disputing that this is an elite offense with an elite quarterback But Mike Ryan is making me insane because all he's doing is being totally reasonable about his football team He I text him you've got a you've got an elite offense and it's like just taking care of business Dan We've got a shot to do something this year. It's all like said with a briefcase in his hand. Right, well it's a business trip.

I mean, he's right. It's annoying. Press conference speak is what he's getting at. It's annoying. But Mike put the team together or helped put the team together, he expected this. I mean, he's confident in his own evaluations. I don't think he likes the appraisal

of helped put the team together, but he was involved in the innards of what it is this was. And clearly Mario Cristobal, this can't be disputed, Stu Gantz, the part I'm about to say, because you look around the sport, Tennessee's obviously good, Ohio State's obviously good, Georgia's obviously good, Texas is obviously good.

But in that next class of, oh, can they be up there? This, what you've seen from Miami and that schedule, obvious playoff team. Yeah, I think the Canes are in that class, actually, for this year. This what you've seen from Miami and that schedule obvious playoff team. Yeah I think the Canes are in that class actually for this year I think their opponents yet have not shown that they are I wouldn't feel comfortable against Texas or against Even Georgia. I wouldn't feel comfortable but still but that's a step Dan because normally I would not feel comfortable going to Louisville But I do this year because I think the Canes are that good.

Mike Ryan, why are you being so reasonable? I've been reasonable for several years. Yeah, it's true. I don't understand. This is a surprise. The only thing that's changed is the results are different. But I've been the same guy I've been for the last three years, and I get no credit for that.

But yeah, you guys keep wanting to talk about the University of Miami and you keep throwing out the same things that the tired catchphrases Of the you is being back. Yeah every every week I walk in here the you is back No, we're back to work. Exactly right. He was back to work nine to five and I am also back to work You know was back this week and I'm wondering, like, from the fan base's perspective, the boosters perspective, all the perspectives that you have, the turnover chain made a brief cameo. That was organic. That was, yeah, it was very brief.

It showed up, a fan handed a walk-on player, he got an interception. Guy makes plays in practice a lot. He got handed a turnover chain, he put it on. The Canes were, there was a great amount of cockiness attached to this certain performance. Cam Ward baiting a late hit penalty because he was pointing at the defender chasing him. And twice in this game, and it's not the first time it's happened this season, Cam Ward pointing

directly at the defensive line telling them where they're gonna run the ball. And then Miami runs the ball there at that exact spot, Cam Ward tells the opposing defense and scores a touchdown. So yeah that's some of the some of the fun is back in at Miami. Well and the celebrations they were doing this on the sidelines and this harken back to a different age. I have not seen the celebration that involves obvious pantomime of spanking. There was spanking going on. Old canes in uniforms once upon a time. They never dared to do the

spanking. The celebrations were generally sensual in nature, but I have not seen synchronized spanking. That was a great atmosphere. That stadium was certainly louder than the swamp. The swamp wasn't loud at all. This was a loud stadium that was filled mostly with Miami Hurricanes fans and it's great to see and hopefully everyone comes out on Friday. Mike, at this point you would be surprised if the Canes don't make the playoffs. I would be surprised.

I'm not looking. They don't play anyone. We got Virginia Tech on Friday. We've been very bad in this conference. We got an ECBC size chip on this shoulder. Right. That we need, if you're national and you cover this program occasionally, anytime they make a little bit of noise, you always assume, that's a team that'll fall apart

in the ACC, they'll lose to Wake Forest or something like that. So we got a lot to prove this weekend. We're not gonna take our time. I don't like this. Can you guys help me with this? Business trips. I don't like what's happening here.

I mean, Mario Cristobal at the Swamp is cracking Gator jaws over his knee, and Mike Ryan's taking them one game at a time. That's flashy. We like the play on the field to speak for this. Business as usual. Just worried about Virginia Tech. They're doing what's expected of them, Dan.

What is there to celebrate? Doing your job? That's your job. I'm watching in the corner of the screen here multiple players celebrating the pantomime spanking of an opponent. That's actually an audible. That's an audible call.

He's signaling to the sideline bracket coverage. Yeah, that's what happens. All business. Mike Ryan being reasonable Kane fan is no fun. I was asked this. I've noticed my team also winning every week has not been very fun for the rest of this show which is curious. Looking forward to Alex Goldlash's interview on God Bless Football. Why are you doing this to me when I'm sitting here supporting you?

Why did you do that to me for the last four years? Because it was fun. Yeah okay. Like you won't be there if they lose the games dude. I'll be right there. After four years it was fun yeah okay like you won't be there if they lose the games dude I'll be right there after four years all the setup you're all trying to draw me out so I can get emotional I don't think they're gonna lose my into the playoff no okay well so forgive me then because it's fine that you don't want to go down this path but it has been Stugats a while since I am in the street and by way of conversation instead of the heat instead of the dolphins the entry point to people who

want to talk to me is about the University of Miami and it's also been a while since not unlike with the dolphins when they came upon offense that I would say to you whether you want to say the U is back or not the schedule is easy enough and the offense is obviously good enough that they should be favored in all of their remaining games until the ACC Championship based on what we've seen so far. Cam Ward is a legitimate Heisman candidate. He has announced himself to America on a whole lot of people aren't playing better than this right now.

He has not yet turned the ball over very much. They have not played exceptional teams yet, but they don't play exceptional teams. And so when I'm telling you, four games in, that they will be favored against everybody they play against if their quarterback is healthy. That suggests to anyone listening that the team is relevant again in a way it wasn't even relevant when Mark Richt had him at 10-0, number one in the country going to Pittsburgh, and we all knew that team wasn't actually that good. I agree with everything you just said, but I also understand Mike, who at least for the last

15 years or so has been a bit tortured as a Hurricanes fan, wanting to take this one week at a time. Like not wanting to get too far ahead of himself because, Dan, he's smart, he looks at the schedule, he sees that the Canes have a massive opportunity here, but he just doesn't want to talk about it. I'm with you, not good for the show. No, I'm not even saying it's not good for the show. I would say my wife does this as a way to make sure that she doesn't feel great disappointment. If you put your expectations in a very reasonable place, you're less likely to be disappointed. But what I'm saying to you and everyone listening to this, if you're not willing to get excited about the fact that you have an elite quarterback then when are you

allowed to put your expectations in something because the reason that Billy and Chris are the way they are today is because of the expectations of the last couple of seasons of what they've seen from the offense and then it goes to Seattle and you're like well I'm used to the 24-3 game with all my shit teams that go up there with offense but I'm supposed to have an offense that I'm going to get in the game no matter what, because even if I'm down 24-3, because of the skill guys I have. If you're not going to get excited about the fact that the University of Miami clearly

has one of the best quarterbacks in the country, then what are you going to get excited about? What are you allowed to do with your expectations? I think he's got post-traumatic stress disorder from all the other times he's had expectations. Look, I've seen this team deal with an injury to their best defensive player in their offensive line decimated early. So I'm really excited to get in a conference play and get our best players back. And hopefully we can put in some good performances. Right. I mean, Dan, it's why I'm not that excited about what the Jets are doing and what Aaron Rogers did on Thursday night Like I've had too many heartbreaks. I've fallen for this before and so I want to be excited. I want to get excited I look at their schedule. They have the Broncos coming up this week

I think that's a win But you know, I have to tread lightly here because bad things usually happen to my team You've got a proud Virginia Tech hokey team that is well coached coming into town one thing at a time They are proud. We always fall apart come conference play. We got a lot to prove. God I hate this. If you're not gonna get excited about a great quarterback what the hell in sports are you gonna get excited about? I'll give it to you. Okay all right fine I'll drop the bet. We are indeed back to work. Wow. I mean, he's no Derrick Robertson, but. Is Virginia Tech well-coached?

Yeah, we have respect for our opponent. The thing about Miami, right, is like, there's gonna be a hiccup. Who is the coach? There's always a hiccup, right? Yeah. It's me. I'm looking at it, Billy.

I'm trying to find where the hiccup is. There's always a hiccup. It's just like- They're coming into the hardest part of their schedule right here. It's just recovering from the hiccup has been kind of what happens to the Cane sometimes at Cal You're the Duke at Cal maybe next week. That's tough

Look at I mean look at all these consecutive games cross country Road games at Cal at Louisville very difficult very difficult. Those are good programs for estate these next four I think we'll be able to rise Notre Dame this week Yep, Louisville could be favored in that game. I can't say it. I'm not gonna say it. Just pretend there's peanut butter in your mouth. We haven't proven anything. I don't believe that California or Louisville

will be now favored against the university. No, Cal would be. It'll be interesting to see if Louisville beats Notre Dame and then that's like a home primetime game. We'll see what the line is. But the lines have been very respectful of the Miami Hurricanes. If I may though, okay, because I-

You may. This thanks for Dan, I mean. Well, I'm just- And for me really. I'm willing to do this even though I understand that they haven't played anybody. For the last- There's a reason why you're saying that,

it's because they've been dominated. For the last 25 years, the University of Miami trying to live off of past glories has thought that it is not Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Louisville. It's not any of these teams, Louisville, excuse me. It's not, but it has been. They've been just another team

in a historic nostalgic uniform that used to win championships. They are not that team anymore they're not Georgia Tech they're not NC State they're not North Carolina their quarterback is better than all of those quarterbacks they're back to work their quarter is back to work they have To work. Yeah. They have a quarterback. To work. That no one can dispute. There's not an answer for how he plays the position. They're going to score a lot of points. They're going to be a team that is different from all of those ACC teams that you're used

to seeing that Louisville does pull away from. It's a lull. Lull, lull, lull does push away, pull away from Georgia Tech late, but there's not a lot of difference between them, most of the game. That's several weeks away. We got a prime time game. We gotta pack the rock.

Respect the coach. Our students gotta come out there, show out. Will the rock be packed is the question. Probably not. Is the turnover chain traveling now? No, that was just a fan that handed something. You gotta get that out of here. We've talked to that player since.

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and somebody that is either locally iconic or nationally iconic and means something to this show has passed away. Mercury Morris is gone now at the age of 77 and for those of you in South Florida who remember this far back you can say with a decent amount of confidence after Muhammad Ali came through South Florida with a great deal of flamboyance that Mercury Morris might have been the first South Florida athlete who was black, fluorescent, flamboyant, outspoken, dangerous, eloquent, fun, a poet, and a member of the 72 Dolphins who was very different from all the other members of the 1972 Dolphins, the most vocal of the 72 Dolphins. It was a rare time in sports, do you gods, to be exhibiting that amount of personality

and brashness as a black man in sports in 72, not that far removed from the civil rights movement. Like a genuine South Florida fixture and a source of great strength and black pride locally because it had to be hard to be him and he was unapologetic about being a genuine star on an undefeated team. Yeah, he was also a great player and that was a legendary team. He had a thousand yards. His only

thousand yard season was for the 1972 Dolphins. He was outspoken. He was great. He was confident. He took so much joy every time the last team that was undefeated lost every season. No one else has done it. joy every time the last team that was undefeated lost every season No one else has done it. He's part of a team that did it He's a great guy and I got to know him a little bit over the years mercury was different He was interesting and he was very cocky and very confident But there was a very caring man there as well mercury Morris was great that team

I saw a clip the other day of larry zonka running down the sideline and he basically just ran over someone on the sideline and he was telling the story with don shula of don shula loved the hit then for the first time in the sports history they saw a running back called for unnecessary roughness just for running and then don shula flipped out on him for costing them 15 yards because Larry Zonko was just super physical. I know this is a bygone time and I know that more and more you've come to expect that people in their late 70s and 80s aren't going to be with us anymore. But I just did want to stop for a moment in the celebration of what this sport has been in this town and in making this town matter more than it used to back in 1972 because they had this undefeated thing down there and it was the first sports thing that they had

that wasn't like high lie or some uh you know third world or international thing as opposed to major league professional sports but when we talk to God about the toughness of football, I wanna show you a couple of things here because I was laughing this weekend. Still water Oklahoma, it was 100 degrees. It was clear that everyone on Utah and Oklahoma State was broiling on the field because they went to the sideline reporter and she's holding up a thermometer

and it feels like 143. That's a classic. Yeah, I love that move. They go, but there are fumes coming off the field she's holding up a thermometer and it feels like 143. That's a classic. Yeah, I love that move. But there are fumes coming off the field and we are baking human beings is what we're doing. And they go to Brock Heward in the comfort of the air conditioned booth and he's like,

it's a day for toughness. I'm like, nobody wants to be out there broiling at 143 degrees. But he's right. I mean, okay, so you're gonna out tough, put it on the pole, please Do you do at Levitard show Kenya rock, right? Can you out tough? 143 degrees

I mean, okay, you're asking a crab to out tough boiling water But okay, you know you still got stinking that thinks that that Utah comes in with more toughness because they can handle 143 degrees better. Have you seen their coach? I mean Kyle Whittingham might be the toughest coach in America. Okay. Seriously. Okay. Am I wrong? Yes, no, that's why they won. That's why, because he rides to the stadium on a motorcycle. That's why Utah went into, and they beat Mike Gundy, who was wearing pants that were catching

fire from the flames on the field because 143 degrees is not a reasonable temperature for anyone to play football. But because football is giving off toughness at all points, here you've got a tattoo that's ridiculous to God. It's a person with, I believe, both wonderful and horrible judgment, has gotten a tattoo of Dan Campbell on their knee,

around their knee, trying to bite their knee, because Dan Campbell is a knee biter, and has threatened to win in the NFL. He's got a 26 and 27 career record, by the way. He has threatened to win in the NFL by biting everybody's knee caps, and so here is a photo of a terrible idea. And I also wanted to show you a picture of and this is stunning here this is

comedically perfect forgiveness to the audio audience but we're showing pictures when gronkowski says that the guy who is most likely to break his records as the most dominant polar bear in the history of the game looks like bro Bowers. This is, you can't dispute that this hairline and the crazy in the eyes that gives off a little bit of the Cajun guy and water boy. The crazy in the eyes, you can see how that can be trained to have about 1400 receiving

yards if it gets the right quarterback in the NFL, but that does not look like athletic dominance there. You have to shave the rest of that. Somebody who loves Brock tell him just go bald there Brock. It's okay. You might be insecure about the shape of your head, but it's going to be okay. That's what Jason Taylor would look like if he'd let it go. That's it. This is a message to come on home when it's that bad. Right. But you think Brock would look like if he'd let it go. Yeah. This is a message to come on home when it's that bad. Right. But you think Brock would look that good

if he did cut it all off? I mean. I mean, it would look better. It would look worse. It would look worse. Really? Kind of a bald. I mean, Brock Bowers?

Are you arguing for the look that he's rocking over the hem? I need to see it combed. I need to see him showing up to something formal. I mean, it's right after a football game. I need to see the combed. I need to see him showing up to something formal. I mean, it's right after a football game. I need to see, like, I need to see the hair at the draft. You need it combed over, Stugacius. I just want to see.

You think combing it over is gonna make a difference. Listen, before I make a judgment here, I need to see what it looks like when it's combed. I will be with you on the idea that once you've taken your helmet off, you have that particular patch of hair, that scratchy patch of hair. Sweat after a football game

is not gonna help the look at all. But that's as bad as it can look if what you're trying to do with your hair is a pure athletic. That's the worst you can do. Seven strands of hair that you're hanging onto, prematurely old, is not the way to look if you wanna be considered considered a world class athlete.

And cross-eyed is also not helping. I think he's just looking up. Yeah. You don't think that- I don't think he's actually like that. It's just a weird angle. He can't control that. So you don't believe that that right eye is-

I think he's just focused. You don't believe that right eye is doing something different than the left eye? Yeah, no. No, naturally. I've seen him before. He doesn't appear that way to me. Hmm.

I have a great picture of him here, Dan. You tell me, is this the guy that should shave his head? Look at him. Show the audience. I mean, yeah. It's Stugats. That's the hair combed, but he's clearly losing his hair. No, I understand that.

I'm just saying I need to see the hair combed, and it still looks okay combed. He's not, you know, it's not an emergency where he needs to shave it today. I think he's got about three months left. I think it is an emergency. I think it right now is an emergency. That he needs to take care of that right now

so that we can respect him more. We're gonna underestimate him the rest of his career if he continues to look like this in public. That's fair. That dude's amazing. Incredible football player, right, George?. Well you know who else is amazing and this I mean there are so many athletes to gots running around on football fields all over the place that make tackling them very difficult. Saquon

Barkley yesterday, the Saints had not given up a ten-yard run all season and basically all Philadelphia had yesterday because Jalen Hurts has more turnovers yesterday, the Saints had not given up a 10-yard run all season. And basically, all Philadelphia had yesterday, because Jalen Hurts has more turnovers than anybody in the sport since the beginning of last year, all they had was hand the ball to Saquon Barkley and see if he can go 65 yards. Yeah. And he did it. And he did. Yes, and he did do it, and they barely end up beating the Saints and compensating for the fact that Sirianni is trying 61-yard field goals late. Sirianni is doing everything he can.

He's passing up chip shots, and then that's the time he decides to try to kick a field goal. He is doing everything he can to try and screw up that job, but Saquon Barkley would not let him yesterday because I believe that we believe that the Saints aren't as good as they look the first two weeks of the season and that the Eagles are better than they've looked the first two weeks of the season but I don't trust any more in the sport right now Stugats the way that it's being played, more obsessive compulsive than ever about you can't be Will Levis. Like

Will Levis, you're gonna lose your job in three games if you keep making bad decisions. Jalen Hurts having more turnovers than anyone in the sport since the beginning of last season, Stu Gutz, is a problem that will undermine you in a sport where all the games are this close in your offensive line isn't as healthy as it's been the last few seasons and you've got to go on the road and win a game scoring fourteen points because you're constipated offensively your coach takes too many chances and you're turning the ball over more recklessly than anyone in the sport it sounds crazy it shifted very quickly but a guy a guy like Alex Smith is the kind of quarterback you want now. He is he's a guy that never turned the ball over

Dan is right about this like I don't want Alex Smith. I still prefer It's a larger point of you prefer your quarterback like Aaron Rodgers hasn't been great You know what? He's not doing turning the ball over Alex Smith said yesterday during the broadcast He's like, do you know how hard this position is to play? Payton Manning spoiled it for everybody. All these young quarterbacks can't be playing. They're not ready to play. No matter how good you think they are, none of them are actually baked enough to be out there. It's Payton Manning screwed it up for everyone and CJ Stroud made it a little bit worse but you cannot expect these people to play

that position well and not look like Caleb Williams yesterday or for that matter Anthony Richardson because they haven't had enough snaps. What you're saying about Peyton is there are very few guys if any that you could put in, have them start the entire rookie season, have an awful season and still have the mental ability to shrug it off and turn out to be one of the all-time greats. That is very difficult. Bryce Young, I don't think, is gonna have the ability to do that.

I'm not certain if anyone other than Payton has the ability to do what he did, because he was awful in his first year and still turned out to be one of the all-time great quarterbacks. Awful is overstating it, but he threw a lot of interceptions. I think the most interceptions a rookie has ever thrown.

Yeah, and prior to that, no one had thrown more passing touchdowns either. He had the rookie passing record for a long time. But the Eagles are so interesting from this standpoint. You're right about Hertz and the turnovers. And Sirianni is not helping them out.

But Dan, they beat Green Bay with Jordan Love on a neutral field. They should have beaten Atlanta if Barkley made that catch. And they beat the Saints, who were the hottest team in the NFL. And they beat them on the road like The Eagles could easily be three and oh Despite Nick Sirianni despite the turnover. I feel like we can do that with about 25 teams. Oh, we good Yeah, I mean dolphins could be oh and three. They don't get a fumble. Sure. You want to stat so could the Chiefs courtesy of ESPN stats and info

The Dolphins are the only team in the NFL to not hold a lead for a single second this entire season. Their lone lead was on the game winning field goal. Right, but you have your eye on him. I mean, sacrificial lamb time, I'm telling you. And the person who were making the sacrificial lamb is the person who gave them their only lead of the season. Are you guys, like everyone else in our audience, that when

the red zone goes down for technical difficulties for nine seconds yesterday you break out in hives and start screaming and kicking the television because your addiction is so strong that you're not a reasonable person around your television on Sundays? Did everyone collapse when the red zone went down for nine seconds on Sunday? I used to be but the sport isn't my top priority anymore. Business trip. Top priority is playing well within the conference and just you know not beating ourselves. Survivor pools everywhere are ruined correct? Week one with the Bengals. No all of it though they're all they're they're all ruined? All of them are ruined. Yeah, I'm in an 80 person one

and basically can wrap up tonight. Really? Yeah, there's only like three people left over and they all have the bangle, so like, we'll see. But it's been a tough year for people to pick straight up against the money line. A lot of people had the bucks yesterday. I know I did.

I'm on the bangles tonight. Can I, I wanna go back to this for a second because I saw how sweaty and complaining Stugatz was when we went out to dolphin camp and he had to walk from the parking lot 20 yards to the air conditioning of camp. You again think that toughness is a reason that a boiling field of a hundred and 143 degrees is something that football players must summon to be tougher than the next guy who's better at boiling in 143 degree temperatures than you are. I just want to be clear. Who said it again? Brock Heward?

It was Brock Heward. I'm just supporting my God. It was Brock Heward in the press box, in the air conditioning of the press box talking about toughness. I just want to be clear that you think that some players are better at broiling than you are. The Steelers. All right, at LeBattard Show, Juju, are the Steelers better on a broiling field

than their opponents? They don't care what field they play on. They just win. They don't win by a lot, but they win. I just think 143 degrees, I don't know. Those are literally sauna-like temperatures. It seems like a game we should have canceled. It feels to me, it feels like sport is already unhealthy. But let's put this on turf and basically what we're asking you to play on in boiled water Oklahoma is a skillet.

Let's play football on a scalding skillet and see, it must be so unpleasant to land on that field and have your arms just go across the turf and leave whatever burn mark is there for the now the field to broil because you're cooking meat on the field is what you're doing. You're not playing football at 143 degrees. But Brock Eward says you have to tough it out and he played. He knows. I don't know how you measure these things, but one of the teams has to be better than the other at that.

Yes. But how do you practice for it? Well down here it's easier. It's more difficult than Utah. Well, no, but I thought this was in Stillwater and I was told that Gundy's team had the advantage because they always practice on a skillet. Oh. And then they lost to Utah because Stugat says their coach comes in on a motorcycle. Well he's not the only one that says that. But yeah, I guess that means Utah's tougher. Yeah. Is that what it means? Yeah. We found it out.

They are. In Ace of Interra 2 he has to like for some reason go over hot coals Maybe we make players go over hot coals. That's how we practice that rain their feet for yes I want temperature mark man. Gino got fired for that. He did hazing I believe he was leaving all sorts of calluses on the field They would do crab walks on those artificial turfs that were 135 degrees. Well, we tried that, we can't do it. Yes, they were, again, cooler than the ones they were playing on on Saturday in Boiledwater, Oklahoma. And by the way, Workman Gina won an orange bowl.

He did. With Kansas. Yep. Again, the players had to do those wheelbarrows, 100 yards on their hands, and then they'd finish and there'd be blisters all over their hands because again, we're cooking meat, human meat on the field.

You win an Orange Bowl at Kansas, it's like winning a national championship. That's why he's our Twitter avatar for all of these years. He had to keep to leave on that team. Cause he won an Orange Bowl at Kansas, which swallowed champion Les Miles, and I've told you that Kansas, for about a 10 year period, I don't know how they got in the NIL game,

but all of a sudden, Kansas has a team that is not an embarrassment, when it was the worst team in college football for a really long time. Forever. And I wanna try to break you of something that you've been going to. You're like, anytime any team is good, they're getting into the NIL game. really long time, forever. And I want to try to break you of something that you've been going to.

Any time any team is good, they're getting into the NIL game. Everyone has name, image, and likeness. You said that Mac Brown struggled with the NIL game. No, they haven't. They paid Drake May a lot of money. They pay their running back a lot of money. It's leveling the playing field, and it just like back to work, back to how

you evaluate teams. Yes, some teams have more resources than others, but when you get to that top line, there's very little difference. You still have to recruit the kid, you still have to develop the talent, and you still will have to deal with swinging and missing. Mike, but this is what I'm doing, okay, just so that you understand when I'm making it, winning and losing at the NIL game. Michigan won this weekend with 32 passing yards. 32 passing yards. They beat USC, Lincoln Riley.

I was told that Lincoln Riley was going to be instant by a quarterback, by a coach, and USC is gonna go right to the front of the line in playoff football. It is not enough to be a great coach anymore.. It is not enough to be a great coach anymore. It is also not enough to be a great recruiter. You had better know because your team is better at business in a more organized way in a totally changing landscape, you better be a CEO who can keep up with how fast

things are changing in Miami in three years when everyone's telling you, hey this guy's better at getting the players than other people are, where North Carolina for three years was dragging Mario Cristobal or two years up and down the field because it looked like Mac Brown was better at that game, he's not better at that game. You can't be down 30 at the half to James Madison and have everyone trying to run you out of town when you're near 80 years old. Like Nick Saban was saying, I don't have the heart for this anymore. Nick Saban was saying, I'm too old for this shit. Yes, it is a CEO. And it's so don't just make the CEO a CFO and just worried about the finances

because a CEO is across the board. It is more a business position than it's ever had and that's not just because business has formally made it there because guys were buying their way into the game when Nick Saban was sitting atop it. That's always been around but it's all the other things. It's being able to be on your phone at 3.30 a.m. It's over a long period of time. So I think it's just, I'm not a fan of when people just say Miami bought their way back into the game. Okay, but Miami was spending plenty last year.

Everyone's trying to buy their way into the game. And Mack Brown beat Mario Cristobal seemed pretty good last year. There's a lot that goes into it, and it's more than just NIL. When they talked about Cristobal though in the 15 million dollar payroll the idea of all of that being that overt to me there is a learning curve there on how it is that these guys that you're asking to make you tougher and tougher and tougher the culture of sports now also have to be good or

and tougher and tougher the culture of sports now also have to be good or have a team around them really because they don't have to be good at it at all the problems that come when a guy can transfer immediately if he's not getting playing time and you have to pay him three years a million dollars because you're playing the game a little bit differently than it's had to be played before I don't I'm telling you as somebody, the reason that I bring it up so often, Mike, is because the amount of failing that I have personally done in three and a half years not understanding what has to be known in business

has been very frustrating to me and has felt in many turns, oh, this is how it all changes on people. This is how people get to 50 years old and think they know everything that needs to be known, and now the space totally changes and you've got to figure it out. I've lived it. And so I could see where it is these people

would be confused by a million things, because Mac Brown has done it his way for a really long time, and had success in Texas doing it that way for a really long time and had success in texas doing it that way and had success getting the north carolina and now he's down thirty and a half at the half at home against james madison but mike is saying he also did it the new way now it's not working out this year for him but it has in years past with may and other players so but then it is something new and there is a learning curve. And so perhaps

because the entire sport is shifted and perhaps because it is now a business and it's overt and it's out there. Yeah, you might have a longer leash for some of these coaches because they are learning something new. There's not a longer leash though. There's less of a leash now because yeah, but no, see Mario Cristobal is sitting here like listen, if they didn't have a good year, we'd probably talk about, you know,

Florida State has a $64 million buyout on Norvell and Napier's in trouble with a $20 million buyout. This stuff happens faster than it used to happen. But they're learning new roles and new responsibilities within what it is that they do because their job is changed. It is no longer just be a coach, it's be a businessman. It's not just that though. Now everyone knows that money's involved and when you make it business this overtly, it

stops being about you have two and three extra years to do this. Like man, this happened fast to Jimbo Fisher where he goes from having the best college quarterback as a freshman you've seen and everyone's saying well Jimbo's gonna be right there with Nick Saban since then Nick Saban's out of the sport entirely and put his name on this shits too crazy for me like I'm not doing this anymore at 80 years old like I'm I cannot stay up here doing it this way if you're gonna give the kids this much power,

if you're gonna leave me this helpless because you're gonna make it about money this overtly. Painting Nick Saban as helpless is certainly one way to do it. By the way, Jimbo's a victim with a $75 million vacation buyout. Do you think Nick Saban's getting paid by the NCAA to lobby on their behalf?

I'm asking because he's done a lot of speaking engagements touting this cause. Do you think he's a paid lobbyist? I don't know if... Cause it's weird how often he's doing it. And if he's a paid lobbyist, do you think he should reveal that whenever he uses these platforms?

Yes. If he's a paid lobbyist, I would like to know if he is a paid lobbyist. He has been somebody who has made himself, named himself, as far as I can tell, ambassador for the morality of what is right with this changing business. I would really like to know if he's being paid for that. ambassador for the morality of what is right with this changing business. I would really like to know if he's being paid for that. I would like a transparency clause. You think the NCAA has a slush fund, a bucket of money to pay for lobbying of that sort?

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