The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Three Michael Jordans

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

With news of Rafael Nadal's planned retirement at the end of the year, Dan, Stugotz, and Mike try to put the greatness of Nadal, Roger Federer, and Novak Djokovic into perspective. Is this like three MJs? Three Tom Bradys? How do they compare to Kendrick Lamar, Drake, and J. Cole? Then, how seriously do we take catastrophic weather events if they're not in cities people can recognize by name? We take a look at some more images out of West Florida and also discuss the milkshake ducked Lieutenant Dan, Anderson Cooper getting hit by a flying object, and Jim Cantore. Plus, Dan and Mike lead the crew in a discussion about Jimmy Butler and journalistic protocol after news of his father's passing was revealed on the new Netflix Documentary "Starting 5." Help out Hurricane Milton victims with food on the frontlines: Give what you can to World Central Kitchen at Donate.WCK.org/LeBatard. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Terms and conditions apply. Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you

guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar. I know that Mike and Stugats every once in a while will spend in a moment that's a bit disorienting to me every time it happens whether it's on the air or off the air it feels like a bit of a short-circuiting in our systems when all of a sudden Mike and Stugats are volleying back and forth nine straight minutes on tennis. Just can't talk enough about tennis and generally talk about the same things in tennis which is the run of these three Michael Jordans at the same time fighting each other in tennis so that none of them could actually be Michael Jordan because the other one was Michael Jordan. The three of them are

Spider-Man memes pointing at each other. Well that three that you talk about, Nadal Federer Djokovic has become one because Nadal has announced his retirement at the end of this season. He has won 14 French Open championships. Roland Garros will not be the same. I am telling you right now. And I would argue Dan that Djokovic is the Michael Jordan of that sport. I would tell you that he is probably. I would not put him appreciably ahead of Federer in a way that remembers his legacy as there's Michael Jordan and then we're arguing about all the others for distant second place. Nadal is retiring today and I do want to celebrate for a moment the bronze medalist of this era

because around here Greg Cody and Stugatz have made fun of going to litigation to win a bronze medal at the Olympics. But being the third best of an era in any other culture other than one that says there's one winner and everyone else is the first loser, makes Nadal someone who should be celebrated for all time even though he is the third best in his generation. I mean, that's a great debate. I would say Djokovic by the record of Grand Slams,

by the earnings, he's number one. Gold medal. Yeah. Federer, I think, got fat off of an easier era while these guys were kind of getting onboarded. So I think he boosted a lot of his credentials during what was a bad time and in between phase of eras.

And Nadal, you can make the argument when healthy he was the most talented and best at his top form that would be my argument. Only on clay though. No I would say no because if you remember Wimbledon when Roger Federer was at the top of his game on that grass surface the what Nadal did in that tournament was incredible the thing with Nadal is you can't ever really say if he were healthy because that only happened very early in his career where he looked destined to be the greatest of all time, where he was very clearly that much better than Federer.

The injuries popped up as Djokovic just went next level on him. But I would rank Joker, Nadal, Federer primarily because Federer got all of his earnings really in a bad era, and then once Nadal and Djokovic were there, it was a lot harder for Federer, but they were all really great, and like you said, they were Spider-Man memes pointing at one another, and we should probably honor Andy Murray too, because when he was at his best,

those guys pushed him to his absolute physical limits, because his body broke down. He's the guy who got left behind, by the way. He is, but when he won Wimbledon, he was in the teeth of that era and he had to be the best guy for that major tournament. So we'd be remiss to not mention him. Dan is right though, Nadal did win a lot at the French Open,

but he also won in every surface. He won Wimbledon, he won the US Open, he won Australian Opens. But it was 14 on Clay. 14. He's the greatest Clay player of all time. He was futable. And he might not be, when it's all said and done,

he might not be the greatest Spaniard on Clay. I will say of this era, right, one of the more impressive things that I can say about this era is just how rare it is for the greatness to be so great that the three guys we're talking about as all timers are household names in America when the only other time that I can remember three guys like this fighting at the top of this sport is when it was McEnroe, Connors

and Borg and you needed two of them to be American in order to get America to be that kind of interested. The fact that it became a global game and these international players were the ones dominating it and becoming household names here because no Americans could come close to what it is that they were doing. I think the only American to win a Grand Slam title

during their run was Roddick, US Open, and he won one major, and I think that's it. Also pushed himself to like a miracle Wimbledon final I recall against Federer when everyone thought Roddick was was done and Roddick was kind of at his peak in the era that Federer really got the the most wins but look it Rafa Nadal exists in a very unique space and that he is both Michael Jordan and also kind of Grant Hill and that man man, this guy was incredible. I can't imagine how much better he'd be

if his body didn't start failing him. But his body started failing him in part because of his aggressive style. And just watching those three, there's no question who's the hardest on their body in terms of playing style. And also the surface that he excelled at, the injuries that he sustained are primarily from the surface he excelled at, the injuries that he sustained

are primarily from the surface he excelled at. So it was a bit of a catch 22. When we're talking about greatness though Stugatz, the mind bleep of legacy stuff when you're talking about people who are this great is Nadal was absolutely made better by the fact that these were the two human beings He was always chasing in that incredibly lonely sport But his legacy will be remembered as less good as it than it could have been because he had to play against those two players all the time and was often losing to them But that's the case for all three right like if you take any any one of them out of the equation the other two win more.

And so- But Mike is saying of Federer, because Djokovic and Nadal were sort of chasing and younger and Federer was winning during a time, I think of Federer, because he wasn't playing against them, as having a more dominant sustained period than either one of them because he didn't playing against them, as having a more dominant, sustained period than either one of them, because he didn't have to play against them

when he was dominating in his youth. And there were a bunch of guys that tried to step up to the challenge. I remember Del Potro beat Roger Federer in a US Open, and he's another guy whose body failed him. There were so many people, there were so many cheating scandals because guys tried to push their body

to make it to that point. I'd say that era in men's tennis is the most trying time in sports history from a mental aspect. What those guys put each other through mentally to be better, to push their bodies to limits, thought unimaginable. Guys did not play tennis this late into their careers, and they were just kind of what Tom Brady did

in changing the math to everybody. Like I guess 44 year old quarterbacks can be elite now. But imagine if there were three Tom Brady's, because the thing that's amazing about their era is that the thing that's amazing about their era is that the thing to me that stands out is I'm going to have a hard time finding another sport where there are three of them and you're like,

I don't know how much better one of them is than the other. And I put all three of them as all timers. Michael Jordan separated himself. Every time he was playing a championship, Michael Jordan was separating himself. Tom Brady separated himself from everybody. None of these guys could, Tiger separated himself from Phil and the rest of the field.

Serena Williams separated herself. There wasn't a competitor, there weren't three Serena Williams. No, but with tennis, Dan, because they play on different surfaces and there are different generations. Like Federer had to go through, I think when he started his career, Sampras was still around and he was still taking on Agassi and like Stefan Edberg and stuff. And then it morphed into, you know, he played till he was like 40.

I do think that Djokovic is starting to separate himself from the group in that he has the record He just won a really impressive gold medal at the Olympics and he's still doing it against the new guys that are coming after him He did it against Federer. He did against Nidal and now he's doing it against Al-Qarath But it's mild separation like Dan is right about that. There is Jordan and everyone else. There is Brady and everyone else He's not gonna go backwards in the career earnings and the grand slams. He's not gonna go backwards. And he already has had over two guys that aren't winning anymore.

Now it's Alcaraz that has him in his sights. Let me ask you this as it relates to three people fighting for the same throne. Did you guys see that as it started, not that long ago, as Drake, J Drake J Cole and Kendrick Lamar but now not since Old Town Road has a song been the longest running number one song on the Hot Rap Songs chart history than Not Like Us by Kendrick Lamar. How much more thorough of a separation do you need between three people who were regarded as

Largely the same thing and then one of them in Answering the other one in beef produces a song for all time that nets him the Super Bowl half-time show I guess there was a brief moment in time where it was magic bird and Jordan and Jordan aided by just not only his greatness, but his age Magic Bird and Jordan and Jordan aided by just not only his greatness but his age hitting his prime as those guys were kind of on the downswing he really separated himself from that discussion and basically became a one-man league as he just dominated the conversations into June. Are you saying now Kendrick has become Jordan? I mean he's having a Jordan like year is he not? But Mike because

because we've seen the best of Kendrick right good kid mad city we've seen damn we've seen him any classic just releases biggest song ever though and sure but like now looking forward is this like the crescendo of Michael Jordan 97 reposes pushes off Russell and hits the J and like all right now we know or is it there's still some left in it might be talking to the wrong guy because I'm like I'm like Peter Rosenberg in that to me He was my favorite MC ever before This whole thing with with Drake. I would have told you that he's he was the goat before and we all know Cole step back And said I don't want any of the smoke but then on another song said I'm the goat off of features and I was like

Well, wait a second Larry Bird in this Jay Cole probably. Yeah his back gave out. So third. So third Yeah, he's ice in his back. Yeah, the thing is Drake has so much catalog. He is so much success Drake is magic Drake I don't know if Drake's only actually been hurt when it comes to optics and public support You can't publicly be a Drake guy, but if you look at the streamer, yeah If you look at the streaming metrics Drake was not hurt by his his audience has not really dissipated his his cat his social currency certainly has and he's become a meme in that he's gotten Smoked in this so much. So he's kind of laying low. He's been mean his entire career. He's been mean It's like this is not something new to him. Like he's always been the butt of jokes

That's why he's so well poised actually even survived this like because most people are like well What'd you expect Drake to actually win the thing? It's I think it's the kid stuff That's the the harmful stuff there the implications that he's making about Drake But again easy implication to just lob up and everybody's like oh grenade kind of harder to prove in a court of law Yes, I don't think that this is how we're beefing though. We're not beefing in the court of law. I want it- It's presently not in custody, so there's that.

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Stugats. Look, you get one paw print, that's the first clue. You put it in a notebook, now what do you do? Blues clues, blues clues. Sit on the chair and think about it. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. I wanted to bring something up here Stugats and I will leave it alone in a second because today and the last couple of days have been a bit disjointed because of the weather calamity that has headed this way and has ravaged now St. Petersburg and Sarasota.

And I don't know what information you guys are getting on how bad it is, because it went from category 5 to category 3 as it slowed down and arrived at the west coast and the worst of it was able to be avoided because you did not have the 15 feet of sea surge of storm surge in Tampa, which would have consumed Tampa and would have gotten the nation's attention more than I think this, Stu Gotts. I don't know how much the nation is paying attention to what happened in Asheville, North Carolina, even as bodies were found in trees. And I don't know if I don't make it a city that you have heard of necessarily. If I don't make it Tampa and I make it Sarasota and I'm just showing you catastrophe, I don't know how the nation

at large receives the following information. 17 inches of rain in St. Petersburg, that's a third of what they usually get for a year. You had a crane fall into a building, you've got a boiled water effect that's going to be problematic for a lot of people at midnight because you had to shut off drinking water because a pipe burst. You know, I said earlier that at the time I was watching, I imagine it's more now, more than two million people had lost power

and that's going to be an overwhelming onslaught for Florida power and light. You all, I am assuming, know what it feels like to have stuff just rotting in your refrigerator for days and the inconvenience of all of that to not have, you don't Necessarily know how much your life gets altered by not having power until you've lost power I don't think it's something we're all thinking about

But in in some places humid and swampy as Florida a lot of things are gonna go bad that make your life feel like it's Going a little bad by not being able to have drinking water or power for a while You're asking does the rest of the country care if it's a city they haven't heard of? I think they care, but Dan, it's impossible to care unless you've been through one of these and we've all been- I don't think it's impossible to care. Well, let me rephrase that because you're right. It's not impossible to care unless you've been through it, but if you have been through one of these, you know what these people are going through right now in Tampa.

And so I think it's, you know, I know four people have been reported dead, and I think it's gonna be a lot worse and a lot more than we anticipate, unfortunately, because there are places, again, during the coverage they can't take it, you can't see it, so we don't know the true damage yet. One of the things, though, because we were talking yesterday about uh... the gentleman with one leg lieutenant dan who was on a twenty foot sailboat and i

saw a couple of things happen yesterday wasn't just the tampa's mayor said that if you were in evacuation zone you were going to die and he was insisting on staying in the twenty foot sailboat uh... and some authorities in tampa were talking about simply taking his freedom coming in and removing him and not allowing what it is that he was doing by deciding to stay on a sailboat that he said was his only property and he wasn't going to go back to being homeless with

one leg uh... there have now been reports because a number of people were moved by his story. Aidan Ross, the influencer, offered him a fifty thousand to a hundred thousand dollar boat to give him some help because a lot of people were moved by his story. But now I'm reading that he's got a number of aliases, he started to go fund me a few weeks ago, that he attacked a worker number of aliases, he started a GoFundMe a few weeks ago, that he attacked a worker of some sort with a violin, which I don't even understand.

Oh, they get much worse than that. That's kind of the tip of the iceberg. His rap sheet is real bad. He's not a good guy, apparently. I think real bad, and then it's probably around that area. It's bad, and then it's probably around that area. It's bad and it's Substantive but he's a digital creator who's now getting a great deal of he's not a digital creator He was just found by the internet Has a phone he's found by the internet and no end

He's not gonna become hawk to a because of what's in his past which is terrible stuff. Yep a violin because of what's in his past, which is terrible stuff. Yep, a violin. A digital creator? A digital creator. Let's uh, let's- That guy is running analog. Let's check in with him here, we've got an update. I don't know what the other bad stuff is.

I thought that four aliases and a violin beating was the worst that it could have been. No, it's very tame. Underage stuff, yeah, assaults. Kidnappings. Yeah, alleged kidnappings. Apparently tried to light somebody on fire. It's all really bad stuff.

It seems like a bad person to give fame and money. Yeah, we should probably not further platform it. Yeah, let's play that video. Hey, Lieutenant Dan here. How'd it go? How'd the night go? It was a little rough until about 11.30. I repositioned the boat and I was heading into the wind. And I actually looked like a baby from 12.30 to 5.00 this morning.

I woke up twice to pee, that was it. But other than that, I mean it's been a great night. I just smoked Catholic joint. I'm high, I'm watching all the people running around like crazy because of all the water. The water went up. It was up to here last night. It was over the f***ing pole. There's the boat still standing. I mean, believe me, I got battered against the tire, but other than a couple of scuff marks on the side, my boat's in better shape now than it was before because it got washed. So I mean everything is a plus, it's a win-win all the way around. What did you learn from this experience? Not a damn thing.

I want to ask you guys how much damage is actually done as the country and the world can argue about anything and politicize anything. How much damage is done when one side is talking about how our political influences being corrupted by oil and oil's money has harmed the climate and then on the other side you have climate deniers who are saying that Tampa's mayor is a fear monger when she says if you stay in an evacuation zone you're going to die. And this guy not only doesn't receive any harm from staying in a sailboat as the waters rise in the most dangerous areas of Tampa,

but gets rewarded in every way by what his fame brings to him as some of this happens and people yell at each other back and forth about climate change and deny that climate change is a real thing. I don't even think his time in the spotlight at each other back and forth about climate change and deny that climate change is a real thing. I don't even think his time in the spotlight actually got him rewards because he's been doxed and everyone now knows about his past and I'm sure people that committed, unless they decide that he's paid his debts to society, are probably going to move away from that

one. But his boat is clean. He also admits that I would've been in real bad shape if I didn't have Good Samaritans help me. And you ever watch Shark Week, and they focus on like a death-defying marine biologist that's doing all sorts of dangerous things, and you ever think to yourself like,

wait, how are they getting this footage? There's someone that's more brave that is documenting the brave person that does not have the same kind of protections that even the person that they're focusing on, that's why it was happening last night, with everybody just on foot occasionally checking in with Lieutenant Dan. Hey, are you okay? He's at least like sheltered somewhat in his boat. There are so many people, like I saw at least seven different content creators go over them, go over to them and check in on them through the night. There was also a dog that someone just sort of left tied up to something and you never know the

places that someone is going to connect or something is going to connect with humanity because a lot of people took an enormous interest all of a sudden in just a dog that had been abandoned and tied up in an area that had been uh... evacuated but my question to you guys is i know that people don't want me talking about this i know that it is something unpleasant but when all of this happens and stew gots comes in here today and says to me you're rooting for something bad to happen when i am not rooting for anything bad to happen i'm I am not rooting for anything bad to happen,

I'm just scared at all the bad that is happening all over the globe with things like this, and when you're disconnected from it, Stu Gatz, because I don't know how many people listening to this are thinking about Asheville, connecting with Asheville, which was the one before this. But if you just think that these are common storms and not the new normal that is going to continue to bring things that are worse and worse than this, and if we don't do anything

about it and our leadership fails because it's all bought by the oil money, what are you supposed to do other than feel helpless and hopeless and am I better off? Just not mentioning it. Just keep it moving at all times, stay in the playground, keep talking about Francisco Lindor, don't have any real world stuff spill into the sandbox. Just ignore that the country is fighting over the facts of climate change and you have people just denying that this stuff is happening

even as it happens. I don't think you're going to like my answer to this. I mean, I am asking you the question. I don't know what the correct answer is. I know people don't want me to talk about it. It's not that you're fearing something, a city falling into the ocean. I say that, but I say that jokingly and I love you. Dan does not root for that, but it would take something like that.

If you want the entire country to start paying attention to this, but it would take something like that. If you want the entire country to start paying attention to this stuff, it would take something dramatic like that for everyone to start paying attention. What I'm saying to you is this stuff is happening all over the globe. It's just happening in places that for whatever reason, don't resonate the way the guy on the sailboat does

and the way the dog does. Even as bodies are being found in trees in Asheville and you're like, that's not in any way normal. There was no warning for that. A city goes from the day before they don't know anything's going to happen to waking up in their bodies and trees. And I guess it's easier to ignore it. I know you guys don't want to talk about it.

Every time I talk about it, I just see the room drift away from me like you guys might as well float off to see because I know you don't want To talk about it either. Let's have fun with it Then let's just go in with this weather caster Paul Goodlow and see how he brings sports to weather You might still be in the eye right now. There's a lot more to go I think back to you know, you know, let a Falcons first half Super Bowl winner We know what happened to the second half when the Patriots came back to life. So do not sleep on the second half of Milton, and we're definitely concerned now.

That's the way I should do it? I get what he means by that. Like that analogy hits with me. I'm like, yep, this is not over this. Dumbed it down, yep. Propped it up, spoke to the layman. If you didn't understand that I'm surrounded by storm and death, how about I just give you

a half time score? 28 to three. A little less Milton in that update, you know what I mean? Like, mention the pages, then you're like, eh, Drake May's starting. And then you're like, whoa, okay, where are we going with this, buddy? Drake May is starting.

Yeah. I believe they're throwing him in. Yeah. It's a bad team. I watched that as it happened live, and the studio host takes it back, the meteorologist that they have kind of cue being everything is like He's absolutely right. The second half could be way more entertaining. I'm like

Entertaining what are we doing here? Trying to get you to stick around Do you think when these weather people are like at a spot where it's not raining on them? Like can you go find some rain or something? I'm looking for a shot here. What's Anderson Cooper's deal? Why was he out there? Like he just, cause he obviously said he wanted to be. There's no way Anderson Cooper is being sent out there unless Anderson Cooper's requesting to go out into the hurricane. He was stuck behind the tree for hours though.

Yeah, Andy, buddy, go inside, stay in New York, you don't need to be putting yourself at risk for no reason here. A few times a year, he likes to get out there, get in the field. It's not his game though. It is though, he does it get out there, get in the field. It's not his game though. It is though, he does it every year with a bunch of, he like, if a big story happens, Anderson will go out there.

Mm. Unnecessarily, so also, for the first time ever, I had someone texting me Jim Cantore-y hate yesterday, saying Jim's kinda lost his fastball, Jim wasn't really in the thick of it anymore, Jim wasn't even on ground level, he was like on the second or third story. He was in a parking garage. Yeah, he was like on the second or third story.

He was in a parking garage. He was like in the third story of a parking garage, and we're like, old Jim Cantore would chain himself to a stop sign and we'd see what was what. New Jim Cantore, he'd put on a baseball helmet that they'd get at like the local Dick's Sport. And then we'd go, we'd see how fast a coconut hits him in the head and then we'd know how serious this storm is.

This Jim, third story of a parking garage, and we're like, oh I don't know Jim. Like how how fast the coconut hits him in the head and then he tell them then we know how serious this storm is this Jim? Third story of a parking garage and we're like, oh, were you there when the transformer blew though? Yeah, and he ran from it instead of towards it. He's like wow, that's your it's one of the most serious sounds I've ever heard the loudest sound he ever heard but Billy is right Like Jim Cantor used to make you feel like he was putting his life on the line He did whether he was or not is up for debate. Oh, you know, he used to make you feel like he was putting his life on the line. Whether he was or not is up for debate. But he used to feel like his life was on the line. Hold on, you don't think he was?

He was doing it. By the way, this isn't Billy, I'm just relaying to you what was texted to me, I'm just reporting here. Right. He was in the puddle several yards away from a transformer blowing. Puddle, though, you know, before he used to be, he'd be in the ocean.

Right. I will say to you- He'd go to Tampa Bay and he'd like, where's the water? I don't know, before it used to be he'd be in the ocean. Right. I will say to you. He'd go to Tampa Bay and he'd like, where's the water? I don't know, I'm gonna walk far enough until I find it into the bay and it's like, Jim, don't do that buddy, the water's gonna come back, that's how these things work. But he'd go in there. Billy, you tuned in late because he began

that particular adventure on the first floor of that parking garage and then moved up because the water was rising to the second and the third floor. All Jim would find a basement, you know what I mean, in that situation. He kept yelling, it's like a real wash tub out there, which I didn't understand. And at one point he said, as the crow flies,

which I didn't understand what that even meant when he used the expression. To Mike's point earlier, no one talks about Cantor's cameraman. He's got someone with him in all these spots and Cantor gets all the credit. Right, like Scottie Pippen. Here is, not really like Scottie Pippen. I feel like Scottie Pippen got a lot of credit.

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A big problem. And she said really? What are you going to do? Stugats. Oh god damn. I mean that's where she... I didn't have an answer. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. Libertar show with these two guys

Let's just check in with some b-roll here of Anderson Cooper being hit by debris Unfortunately, we do not have the sound because the sound is what's funniest here I don't know what he got hit by it feels like the cameraman just threw a notebook at him. I don't what he got hit by. It feels like the cameraman just threw a notebook at him. I don't, I don't. Oh my God, that's Anderson? What are we doing here? I thought that was Cantor. They sent Anderson into that.

I thought he would have just been on the outskirts. No, no, no. Anderson loves ball. Even he's like, this is a lot. Yeah. This guy's a billionaire heir. Yeah. And he's just out there loving ball.

That's also probably why he enjoys doing this because he's a billionaire heir and he doesn't really have anything else to do besides doing exciting things. Like Richard, this is basically. That's a nightly it doesn't really have anything else to do besides doing exciting does like Richard This is basically show richard-branson shows. This is just for him to get his child Gloria Vanderbilt is is his mother. What is he being hit by there? It seems like it's a clipboard It does look like I think it's a sign. It's a hurricane. It could be anything

He's not wrong Todd Bulls his play sheet It does look like a piece of cardboard. I think it's a sign. It's a hurricane. It could be anything. It's a styrofoam piece. He has a point. Thank you. He couldn't. He's not wrong. This is Todd Bowles' play sheet. It does look like a play sheet. The crow flies is to take the most direct route between two points, because the crow always takes the quickest route.

Thank you, Tony. I appreciate you doing that off of the top of your head. I was confused. I didn't think, because Cantori was doing a lot of fists on the hips. It looked like Prime Cantori. It did not look like a fated Cantori. I don't know the text that Bill was getting.

Prime Cantori gets in the rafters of the trop. So you guys won him in like six feet of storm surge. Honestly? Yes. HGH, I'm gonna come out and say it. I mean, Cantori never used to wait for the storm. He used to go meet the storm. Yeah, I mean.

He's got the Bezos thing going, like, yeah, okay, you got money. Where'd you go? He was in three feet of storm surge and then he moved up a parking garage floor. He did begin. What started out as a dry parking garage, I saw it escalate on him. He was in water that was above his knees at one point and then he fled the premises to go upstairs in the parking lot. I want to ask Mike a question because we're watching Brian Norcross obviously legendary meteorologist also um

Mike I want to bring in your expertise here Brian Norcross is he taking some PEDs for the salad or what do you mean? Why are you doing that to Norcross I mean do I even need to I'm asking a question. I mean, do I even need to? Sometimes you can just test this. Like the hue is just much darker than it was in the 90s. Come on. No one's hair gets darker over the course of 30 years. Collars got darker?

Video, please put up just all of that B-roll that I saw playing in preview of an assortment of Jim Cantore video just being in his prime. This is prime Cantore. This is when Jim Cantore was Jim Cantore. This is prime Cantore. Before the trend. Cantore. Climbing a tree. Climbing a tree for fun. Climbing a tree right now. He would not go hide in a parking garage.

I want the clip of the guy running by him and he like kicks him. Unnecessary. Dude, you can tell, he takes his shirt off, he looks like J. like JK Simmons. Yeah Can you guys give me some more updated information? Because this is one of the few places in the modern age where news travels a little bit slower Because we don't have access to the most dangerous places

What have you guys seen in terms of the worst calamity to befall the west coast of Florida here? Because the storm did lessen as it approached land. It went from a five to a three, and the storm surge is one of the things that is most dangerous, but there are a lot of places that people cannot get to yet that I'm assuming have been ransacked.

Certainly the most dramatic video is that of what's coming out of St. Pete with the trop and its roof being torn off. And a crane falling in the middle of the city. I was gonna say, the crane is probably the most actually dangerous situation over there, more dangerous than this, even though the optics, it's a sensational image of watching this cathedral of sport being torn to shreds. That's overstated, calling that particular dump a cathedral of sport.

The roof is a tarp. Do they just get rid of the roof and it's just an open ballpark next year? No, they can quickly patch it. This happened in the Metrodome where it took a couple of weeks because it's made of that material. The material was made to withstand 115 mile per hour winds. It's been through storms previously but we had mentioned yesterday that it was a staging area for some responders. Thankfully it wasn't a shelter but there were certainly people there being staged as that all happened and there's some pretty dramatic video there.

I have told you guys the story before. I ended up watching 20 minutes out of nowhere about like world's greatest architecture. The carrier dome gets more snow on the roof than just about anywhere in the United States per year. And because this is something I did not know, because of the way domes are pressurized, those roofs are fabric more than they are a material that is actually meant to

withstand great winds. It's more like t-shirt fabric at the top of the carrier dome that keeps the dome inflated and safe and pressurized the correct way. And so I was surprised to see that footage, but when I tell you that the roof of Tropicana is something that's a fabric instead of something that's hard, you sort of understand how it is that you end up in tatters there. A show about architecture sounds like something I would go to sleep to if I'm struggling to sleep.

Wow. Dan's night is just getting started. Even if it's world's greatest architectural marvels. Will you throw world's greatest in front of anything I'm gonna check it out, but one of them was the carrier dome Once you get to the carrier dome in terms of world's greatest architect. It's kind of like this is like a season 7 Just got AC like seven months ago. It's not the carrier dome anymore I mean, it's a shame which is weird because they had like a lifelong contract

I don't know how they were able to get out of that. Billy, do me the favor of looking this up because I think it might have been the first episode of this particular show's first season. I'm not even, please look it up for me because I want to be either disproven in a way that's funny or have you guys disproven on just how bad a television show I was watching?

Because this, I believe, was the first, it was certainly the first. Is it just called World's Greatest Architecture, this show? You will find it, just put, you will be able to find this pretty easily, I think, because I believe it was the first episode of a season. I just don't know if it was the,

it was the first episode of the first season or not. We will get that information for you guys shortly. In the interim, there is some quote unquote sports news breaking from the documentary series that Netflix is doing inside the life of LeBron James and Jimmy Butler. There is some sound of LeBron James complaining about playing and only taking two shots in eight minutes and complaining about a minutes restriction But Jimmy Butler said something that I don't think anyone in Miami knew

Specifically which is that his father died during the season last year and he didn't feel like playing Basketball at all and even though his teammates he's articulating basketball at all and even though his teammates he's articulating this needed him out there he was saying that the grief of that was such that he felt like he was just letting down teammates by not being able to mentally compose himself in a way that dealt with grief and dealt with the death of his father Mike has been critical of the Miami Heat media before on sort of being in the pocket of the Miami Heat a little bit and there are places where I do believe the Miami Heat media does protect people on privacy and this was

one of them where I'm learning months later about something that I think that people knew around the team but were actually being courteous, which is super rare in the modern media climate, and respectful to Jimmy Butler's privacy and his family. We knew he was dealing with a personal issue. We knew that it also related to his father. I don't know that we knew that it affected him this way before watching this documentary. On the show, I knew, I knew. So like we knew that it affected him this way before watching this documentary.

On the show, I know, I knew I knew. So like, we were protecting him here on the show. My criticisms of Heat Media are specifically what you see on the court, but they absolutely did the right thing as did we when Jimmy was going through all that. Well, how do you feel about that? What's the journalistic protocol for something like that? It's new. It is new to me. Usually when a player is not available to play, people will get at the roots of whatever and why ever that is. I don't find that the media is generally respectful of people's privacy even when they ask, please respect my privacy at this personal time. I do think it's a courtesy that was extended that is the right courtesy to extend, but when I was seeing it in documentary form, it was something that was surprising to me to see for the first time because he had been protected on something that we were talking around around here and the level of his grief is understandable at about the same time, Stu Stu gots I was dealing with some of the same things and I don't feel like I should have been at work when doing that and Jimmy Butler

Was having tensions within the organization about his availability for his team for his players I mentioned a few different times that he was being paid five hundred to six hundred thousand dollars a game and Wasn't available during that time because the contracts are guaranteed. It's something that he was actually dealing with for a long time. And it's personally why I also stopped with the Jordan dad memes because I knew personally

what he was dealing with there for such an extended part of his time down here in Miami. I would say that it was a really difficult situation. People knew about it and they gave him his privacy because it was not for public consumption and he made it clear that he appreciated the privacy there and Jimmy Hasen often wanted to talk about his past, inviting questions about his father,

invites questions about his childhood, which when we had one opportunity to interview Jimmy Butler when he was with Chicago, when he was doing something with Kellogg's, and we agreed no restrictions, but they got really testy when we started going to his background, which we thought was fair game. He apparently did not want to speak about that at all.

I lost Jimmy Butler and he hasn't been on since because he came on to promote a charity that was dealing with the unhoused and I simply asked him, do you have any experience with that? Like what is your link to this? And he just shut it down after that and didn't wanna talk at all about anything.

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