The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Tony's GuaranTee (feat. Dave Dameshek)

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:16 See official rules at program website. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by Draft Kings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other damnline. Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan
Starting point is 00:01:50 LeBissart show is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings. The crown is yours. We have competing stats of the day. We've got Dave Damashek coming on in a second, but I didn't want to get away from what it is that Trista said there because she is espousing the absolute viewpoint that will allow everyone to laugh at Miami after Miami has lost
Starting point is 00:02:11 when she says, this is the game Mario Cristobal always loses. Without exception, he will lose others as well, but he has never actually won this football game, and therefore I will not believe it until after I've seen it happen because you're
Starting point is 00:02:27 Better than Louisville, Louisville, you're better. Thank you. I don't know how to say. Louisville. You're better than SMU, and you lost to them, and you lost to them because of you, because you're stubborn running it up the middle,
Starting point is 00:02:38 because you're turning the ball over, because Carson Beck is throwing four turnovers. You're getting out coached by Bram, clearly and obviously, where he just throws the ball fast every time, and they get four interceptions, and they drag you at home, and then they dragged you at home.
Starting point is 00:02:51 They dragged you at home. Louisville, you were lucky to be in that game late because they fumbled, they fumbled, a perfect game against, Mario Cristobal. You're saying he's always going to lose this game this time too. Yeah, I mean, the only reason that you guys are saying
Starting point is 00:03:06 this is very clearly because of Miami and Florida bias. Nobody in the world thinks that Miami can win at all. Like, nobody. No national, no real national media is like, you know who has a real shot against Ohio State if you end up winning
Starting point is 00:03:21 this Texas A&M game? Miami really has a shot. Like, no one believes that. Have you not listened to the greatest coach of all time and Nick Saban, who says this team is probably the best in the country? Does he not know ball, Trista? Listen. Because I think he does. That may, he knows ball.
Starting point is 00:03:40 You know that. Just make sure. But you act like just whatever is being said on TV is a real take and not just a posturing take. Nobody believes Miami is like the team prime to win it up. It's the hardest path. So why? They've got to win three games. They've got to win three games against possibly Georgia.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Ohio State, and this is the easiest of the three. Three to get to the national championship. And then win the national championship was four. And she's saying nobody believes that. But I would argue that nobody believes Mississippi could do it, that Miami's one of the five teams that most people would say, yes, I believe they're balanced enough to do it. They have all of the things you want,
Starting point is 00:04:16 a veteran quarterback, a healthy defense, a pass rush, and an offensive line that's bigger than Texas A&Ms. And a star receiver in Malachi, Tony. You have all of those pieces, and you start looking around and saying, okay, maybe the only thing that isn't up to par with all the other teams is coaching. Yeah, agree. And I agree that. But I will guarantee this right now.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I will guarantee it today. Wait a minute. This is what happens to know beyond. A guarantee today from Tony. I got a guarantee with a capital T at the end, okay, for my name, Tony. Nippy. Okay. I guarantee you that if the canes are up, I guarantee you that if the canes are up at the end of the game
Starting point is 00:04:53 and there's an opportunity to knee the ball to ice the game away, Mario will knee the ball to ice the game away. I guarantee that ball. Yeah. Here, go. Show to him. Right here, look. I really thought.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Bam, guarantee. Look, we've got to do more guarantees with Tony. Ends with the capital T. Dave Damashek is with us, and he thinks the CFB tournament is a waste of time. A great take. No, I'm infuriated by this. Check out this week's episode of Football America, wherever you get your podcast. I'm urging you to do that because Chris Long, I'm going to believe without having
Starting point is 00:05:26 heard what he and Damashchek did, I'm going to guess that that is going to be both wildly entertaining and informative because I've heard Chris Long's analysis on TWA since it began, and I think he's been like sort of dead on in a way that's more accurate than just about anybody I've heard about correctly assessing what this person is. And so I would guess that what Damashik brought out in the segment was real illumination if you want to get good Tua talk. But what do I have wrong here, Damashik, on what? what I imagine Football America is doing today, because I haven't heard anybody better on the subject of Tua than Chris Long.
Starting point is 00:06:02 So far, so good, Dan. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas to all. I don't know why I didn't get an invite to the good party. I got lukewarm garlic balls. Thanks again, everybody, for that while you guys bend the elbows and drink, except for Roy, who I feel bad for, can't have a little bit of booze. What would the Earth's population be if it was left to the fellas to lay off the booze for 10 months?
Starting point is 00:06:26 You're right about Chris Long. We talk about Tua. That's the tip of the iceberg, though. We go on and on about all matter of things. To the point, I don't want to sound like too big a Scrooge, except I can't really avoid that reality where this college football playoff is concerned. By the way, I see you there. Shout out to Broadway tone there.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You've got to run off the field wagging your finger after you make air. I have the Minkgo, too, Damon Shirk. Do you? Nice, nice. Hello to Amin once again. Amin is wrong, and I'll tell you why Zaz is right. Go on. About Tua.
Starting point is 00:07:01 What do you want to talk about? You want to talk about this? Or should we talk about this my apathy towards the college football play? Let's talk about Tula. I want to hear how you think I'm wrong about something that Zaz could be right on. Also, I know what my apathy means, but I don't think Roy does. So can you explain what my apathy means to Roy? I don't know either.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I heard someone smart say it, and I thought I'd try to pass it off myself. Is that one word or two words? I don't know. It's my apathy. It's two words. It's possessor. yeah it'd be a good website zaz is right about to uh well first of all where the football of it is concerned yeah i mean clearly as they say as warren sap has said for for 20 years now at least
Starting point is 00:07:40 you know the the um defensive coordinators of pro football are going to adjust more quickly than any other organism on the planet earth and so they see what a quarterback is what his preferences are they take that away the quarterback adjusts to that then the coordinators adjust again. And so it goes back and forth for the entirety of that guy's career. Tua got figured out about three or four years ago. And that's it. He had nowhere else to go. He is like a starting pitcher making his first go around the league. And he shuts down everybody. Then the batters look at some tape. They figure out what he's trying to do. And then they start hitting him or they don't. And that's what happened with Tua. What is bad is, though, what Zaz is 100% right about.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And I mean is like one of these cools who's, you know, he's one of the actors who's behind the scenes. And he knows what goes on behind the curtain. And Zaz and I are mere audience members, mere paying customers. We don't want to see that crap out on the field. You ask us the paying public to buy into, we got to win this game, this battle, our warriors wearing our team's colors. at the end of the game, if you want to play grab-ass with those guys, go do it in the bounce of it.
Starting point is 00:08:56 That was Dan last night. I mean, listen, right. You want to do it? Go do it. With his wife. The stadium where we can't see it. I don't want to look at that. What you need is a little
Starting point is 00:09:08 WWE in your lives. You know, Haxaw Jim Duggan, the American hero and the Iron Sheek had a bitter rivalry. Dan, you know about that Haxall? I just want to do. do 30 straight minutes of asking video to go get me. Hacksaw
Starting point is 00:09:24 Jim Duggan and Iron Sheik video and then I remembered all the things the Iron Sheik did and I immediately regretted my but I wanted to just do a 30 minute wrestling podcast. He's an American hero? Right there. No, Dougan was a... That's what I'm saying. He's in America. Why is he an American hero? Because he took a two-by-four friend
Starting point is 00:09:40 and he stapled an old glory to it. Ain't that enough? And he used to waive it before and after his fights. I like it. To stick it to the Sheik. I love it. I'm what to do with himself. He was a hateful soul. Now, they didn't like each other and they would show that in the squared circle. Now, okay, they were later found in a car burning some tree and drinking some beers together. At least they had the dignity to do that out of the sight
Starting point is 00:10:10 of the viewing public. Okay, Johnny Law picked them up and that's that. But two out there laughing it up with Jalen Ramsey. Do you have any sense of the moment, man? like, well, they're human beings. They're three-dimensional people. Not in that context, I mean. They're not, they're not, I don't care who you, I don't care what your backstory is. That's for Tuesdays with the feel-good pieces that roll when there's nothing to do on SportsCenter. That's when you roll in, you tap into the origin story of how he was born without a leg and all of that kind of stuff. You don't do that right out, you don't do that right after the game. Like, oh, Jailen Ramsey and two-year-old friends, you don't get it. No, what you don't get football is that we don't want that grab ass.
Starting point is 00:10:54 We want you to at least meet us. You ask us to delude ourselves and dislike these other people because they wear the wrong logo on their hats. You got to meet us halfway football players and not be doing that crap out on the field two seconds after your season ends. He's right. He's right. He's right about you being right. He's right about me being right. Right. Of course I'm right. Zaz is right. You and I, Dave, you and I are Haxall.
Starting point is 00:11:23 That means iron cheek. I don't like the implications with that. I don't like the implication of that. Jazz and I, Zaz and I, burn a tree and eat a minute. We're in lukewarm, one of the lukewarm garlic balls
Starting point is 00:11:37 and burning tree in the car means that's what you would expect. Accidental racism. Tony saw the iron cheek. It's like Tony discovered. Wait a minute. We're allowed to be this racist in wrestling? Oh, yeah. What was his nationality?
Starting point is 00:11:57 No, the Iron Sheik. The American? Look, he wasn't as bad as Kamala, who was from Mississippi and did nothing but slap his belly. Like, he said, Kamala spoke full Creole and they pretended like he just didn't speak English and slapped his belly in order to just be racist. Oh, Dan, don't even get started on Cocoa, beware. Please don't. Please don't. We're wearing a chain around his neck.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Sheesh. Yeah, it got pretty dark there for a while. It was pretty bad. But yeah, listen, I'm glad Zaz and I, he's in the penalty box because he's a man of justice. That's how it goes. I don't understand this world. No, if guys, get him a microphone. So in there, he and Dameshak could geek out on wrestling because I've been wanting Zaz to do a wrestling podcast. But you have to explain Dameshek to Tony, who doesn't know anything, just how ridiculous that Iron Sheik thing was. and incidentally he just was a prolific allegedly crack addict as well as an added bonus yeah well that's nice that's good for him i also like that um that a lot of the wrestlers in yesteryear weren't muscle bound steroid guys they were just they were just like kind of big guys they were just kind of like they're a little bit bigger than the average human being and that was enough to become a wrestler remember the guy uh uh piper's best pal he always had he always had a broken arm for like for like eight ears, had a broken arm, but the cast didn't make it over the hand. It was just, it was just over his
Starting point is 00:13:23 forearm. He always had that and he used it as a weapon. Those were the good times of WWE. But now I want to talk about college football, because I know you're excited about the U. And I feel bad. I feel like I'm announcing to the world that I don't believe in Santa right now, but I'm not excited about the college football playoff. And I think some of it has to do with the fact that I'm an old man, still pine for i used to i used to dig my heels in in the late 20th century on the virtues of the bowl system and the primary one was that new year's day was was maybe the best day on the sports calendar the five bowl games pristine the and at the end of it at the end of the sugar bowl in the orange bowl when you put your head on the pillow to before you had to go back to school the next day
Starting point is 00:14:16 you knew who the national champion was. And if you did that right now, I submit that that would be a cleaner way to evaluate who number one is in the year of the Lord 2025 or maybe on the first day of 2026. Dig. All this jive, I know Kirk Herbs, I know it's delightful for everybody to be admonished repeatedly by Kirk Herb Street and Joel Clatt and everybody else about how you don't really get how it works. But plain and simple, Indiana,
Starting point is 00:14:46 V, Georgia, in the Rose Bowl or anywhere else, all hash is settled. Is there any argument after that? Do we need all this jive? Do we need all the hooey and applesauce of arguing about Alabama? Again with hooey and applesauce. That's with both of them. That's right, Dan. That's exactly what you get.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Again with hooey and applesauce. Your obsession with hooey and applesauce is not, let it go, man. Whoey in the bluff is a crunch. Luke warm garlic balls. That's what I'm going with. Well, that's why you weren't. related to the party. Everyone knows that they didn't want garlic breath there, just eating all the garlic rolls, eating the metal arc budget and garlic rolls. Merry Christmas.
Starting point is 00:15:23 But am I right, though, Dan, you're an old man. You get it. The Fiesta Bowl used to kick it off on New Year's Day. You'd roll out of bed, hung over, and that was the best, and it was always two high-scoring teams. I don't know how they always arrived at two shoot-ed-out teams, but it was always delightful. And then on the heels of that, the Cotton Bowl, with the Southwestern conference's best. Usually it was Texas against some independent team. And, Now we were off and rolling, and then the granddaddy of them all was a sight to behold with Keith Jackson, and then you had the orange and sugar. And if we had that, here's what it would look like.
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Starting point is 00:19:10 You are correct in saying that it used to be Two bull games for everything that was easier. New Year's Eve was lovely. But you're arguing right now against more football games than matter. Like you're going to have a losing argument because there's just more football on more days. And the bull systems have been eaten up. And now you get to guess whether five teams might be able to win the championship because you've made it more random. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:19:37 But you're long, like, I don't know if this is the perfect metric to decide the best team, but you're just giving the customer more football. that matters instead of two bowl games you got a bunch of them that's the way to placate the masses is right it's more football and you're a curmudgeon if you're complaining about it but if you believe in merit in evaluating who the best team is we had to get off this old system Jake Paul is fighting for a championship of some sort tonight I mean listen but as you as we've now experienced with Mike Ryan and countless others there's always going to be an argument if it's 12 teams well the 13th team got screwed. If it's if it's a four team tournament, the fifth team got screwed. It'll expand the 16 and then the 17th team will get screwed. There's no listen that the the best the virtue of the old system was whether it was the vote on it at the end of New Year's Eve or a two team tournament. There was no there was there was none of this this arguing about two lost team versus a three lost team deserving a shot at number one. The old.
Starting point is 00:20:45 system was unique. I didn't say distinctive, Dan. I said unique as in one of one. The part that I'm laughing about is you are informing these people while longing for the previous time that is factual. He is not making that up. I want you guys to imagine whenever it is that the last games played that we don't still know who the championship is going to because we have to wait until the morning until all of the voters until someone has woken up. Some writer in Louisiana at 1 o'clock at night and said, who do you think should be the champion? That is how Damashchek wants the voters. We used to have to wait till like Monday afternoon after Saturday games to know if the vote.
Starting point is 00:21:26 There used to be co-champians. There used to be co-champions. Well, you're splitting a championship. Give me a break. Okay, once a decade, you did have that. And by the way, I mean, look at what everybody's doing here. Sitting around, I'm across football America from you guys. we're talking about football debating who would beat this team and who would beat that.
Starting point is 00:21:47 That's fun. I consider that an enjoyable use of time to debate that kind of stuff. That's what it led to. And is this any more satisfying arguing about Notre Dame or Alabama or Miami and who deserves into the tournament? It's the exact same thing. You have arrived exactly what everybody had to get away from in the late stages of the 20th century and early portions of the 21st was exactly what we're doing anyway, which is arguing about but but now we have let people less than the very best teams into the conversation now we're talking about Notre Dame who rendered themselves irrelevant by losing
Starting point is 00:22:25 a second game in September that should have been the end of them and that used to be the way and like I say as somebody who forget the ratings and fan engagement and all of that yeah more sports is better yes I enjoy watching sports as it happens but all Also, if you believe in Merit, the greatest system that I'm aware of in American sports history was the old World Series. One team's one league's champ plays the other league's champ. Best of nine. World Series.
Starting point is 00:22:55 That was the best of mine. Anyways, Dave, I agree with you. Like, back in the day, it was like, all right, what if this team played this team? That wouldn't that be sick? Now it's like, oh, no, this team is going to play this team. And now we actually get to see the game. So instead of talking about seeing the game, now we actually get to see the game. So you want to talk about the game.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I want to play and watch. the game. Oh, I know, except that Kirk Herb Street and everybody else has to cry about James Madison and Tulane being in there. Dear God, thank God. Where did that come from? Thank God. It's back.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Oh, my God. Nobody can shut that guy up. All right. Call it girls, Cam. If you're new here, when that music plays, we go to our magic creative content. I don't explain the show. Don't explain the show Okay
Starting point is 00:23:44 Wow Minor penalty Two minutes for explaining the show God shut him up Is that what you did That's what I sounded like Yes Shik was Iranian by the way
Starting point is 00:23:59 Was naturally Iranian Oh he died Tony Persian But he was right Here's what Chris Long and I talked about Here's a great You want to forget
Starting point is 00:24:08 Let's forget the college film The music is playing Sorry Dave He's not respecting the magic creative content. Does he not get how this works? Shut up, Dave. Mute him. Let him talk to himself.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Just mute his microphone. Just mute his microphone. You've got to respect the magic creative content. All right. What were you most wrong about in 2025? Wow. No, look at everyone kind of like stroked their chins and kind of look up to the heavens. What was I wrong about?
Starting point is 00:24:40 I'll tell you what I was the most wrong about. Absolutely nothing. Okay. Yeah, same here. That's a good one. Oh, that's great, guys. That's exactly how the game is played. I'm now long for Damashak talking.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I can't lie. I thought the Celtics was going to beat the hell out of the Knicks. I was wrong both times on the Chiefs. When I said they were done and they weren't, and then I said you guys were right and you weren't. You're right both times? Both times I was wrong. I was doubly wrong on the Chiefs now.
Starting point is 00:25:08 They're not in the playoffs. Do you guys have that sound, please? Because you buried me in it. You buried me in the sound that I had on the Chiefs where how do I manage to get it right and get it wrong twice? And it's just because you guys bullied me. You all got a regime rights. Two games of Rishin right.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's a means advice to Greg Cody. Just hang strong on being right and you'll be right. Mike McDaniel's looking for conviction. He didn't find it in you. I am sure the Chris Paul stuff on Tua is really good. can you explain to us in a condensed form, please, the best of what you've got on football America with Chris Long because the TWA analysis of Chris Long has been better than I've heard anywhere. Yes, he's very proud of himself. He was right on a number of subjects in the news in America.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Well, listen to the show. I mean, we really got into the behavior after the game. I mean, we agree. I think it's settled hash. He's an outmoded quarterback in 2025. They figured him out. all there is to say about it. I do wonder if there's a team out there, like what Denver was able to do, pawning off Russell Wilson by eating some of the contract, if there's a team out there that would look at two. I really highly doubt that that team exists come 2026. What Chris Long and I did talk about, though, here's a great thing. I said to jazz up the NFL playoffs a little bit. What I was right about, what I was wrong about this year was I thought the Ravens were going to be the number one seed as it turns out they're just not that good a team. But,
Starting point is 00:26:39 But what if at the end of the wild card round weekend, we punctuated it. The cherry on top is the number one seeded team that didn't play in wildcard weekend. The head coach and their star player go to a podium and they announce who they've chosen to play in the divisional round. How exciting with that? I love that. So wait, explain that. So the team that didn't play, the number one seed, gets to choose the lower seed that they play in the next round? Yes, they get to go.
Starting point is 00:27:08 it's not like it's assigned to them because, you know, you deserve certain privileges along with not having the play in Wild Card Weekend. On top of that now, you jazz it up and, in fact, give some heat to that game that otherwise wouldn't exist. So let's say you're
Starting point is 00:27:24 the Denver Broncos. You now have to go to the podium, Sean Payton, and say who you are choosing to play in the divisional round. And that team's going to be pissed off. That's a major call out. That you chose them. Like, you could have taking any team to play. You want us? Oh, now you're going to get it. Now it has a, now it has
Starting point is 00:27:43 an extra gravity to it. See, now I've just jazzed up football a little bit more. Dave, I'm 100% with you. I've lobbied for this in the NBA for years, especially now with the playing tournament because what happens is it used to be you're the one seed, you play the eight seed or the seventh seat and that's well and good. I played one of the worst teams, right? But now because of the playing tournament, the three seed knows who they're going to play. So the day the, I'm The last day of the regular season, we know who we're going to play. The four and the five know who they're going to play. The one and the two, they're sitting there.
Starting point is 00:28:13 They've got to wait a whole week to figure out, am I playing him? Am I playing them? Like, what's going on? And so I said, you should be able to call out your opponents. So that way, the one seed gets to pick whatever the lowest seed, five through eight. I like it. Who's my opponent? And then, like you said, you got the whole, on the one hand, yeah, maybe this is a better matchup.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Maybe I'd rather play the seven than the eight. But on the other hand, now that team is like, oh, you think I'm easy? You want to pick on me? Let's do this. Holiday basketball is here, and when stars like Kobe White, Jalen Williams, and Tyler Heroes start cooking,
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Starting point is 00:29:53 I think I would have been on his side. I would have to you like, what did you say? I'm telling you, me and my friend, the rest of the way home, all we kept saying was, I ain't cheating. Stugats. I think he got your ass. I think he got your ass. I got his ass. Chris, Chris, Chris, won this one for sure.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Not pathetic. It was great. This is the Dan LeBatar show with this two guys. I want to get back to professional wrestling with Zaz and Damashek. But before I do that, it was a fairly enormous football game that was played last night. It was wildly entertaining. I don't think there's a lot of difference between those two teams. I think a lot of people come away saying the Rams are still better.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I still think the Rams are better. I don't trust Damn Darnold. He's always going to throw that dumb-ass interception. But the Rams could be undefeated this year because they've lost four one-score games, and some of them are weird losses. Like they were dominating Philadelphia in Philadelphia. They are four one-score games from being undefeated, and I trust Stafford to not do what Darnold did last night, ever, even though he did it against Carolina.
Starting point is 00:31:03 But, Damashik, what do you make of the fact that they've got? out these weird losses. Like, that's a collapse last night. The Seahawks had played 155 games trailing by 16 or more and never won one of them until last night. Well, Dan, you go at me for repeating myself. One thing I've talked a lot with about the gang that you're surrounded by right now is, and to bring it all home, the Firtua and Mike McDaniel and the Dolphins, the loss on Monday night football to the Titans, blowing that two-score lead on Monday night football. I mean, it didn't just damn them for the rest of that season. You can make a decent case that that caused the entire era that was promising to spiral down.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And now the Rams are in that same spot, which is, yeah, they're still probably better than the Seahawks. It was semi-fluky to win the turnover battle to the degree they did, time of possession and everything else, and still lose the game. nevertheless, they're not going to be the number one seed now. And if you have to play an extra game in a league that has become about coin flips when the teams are fairly close to each other, that every game is going to be a 51-49 type of result, then the Rams may have just doomed themselves.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Oh, Damashak, I think that I can make the case that that is the most devastating loss in Rams history if the window closes on them and they can't win as a five-seat. Like that I'm going to have harder time. I think maybe I yeah I don't lost a Super Bowl on a field goal and no time left probably worse okay second second fair enough yes having the great having the greatest show my fault my fault I overreacted the greatest show on turf lost to the Patriots starting the Brady era that was obviously worse I take it back we do we do we even count I a super weird thing in 50 years is when people are going to be looking back through and be like wait the Rams were in St. Louis wait they
Starting point is 00:33:01 They won a Super Bowl and lost the second one while they were there? That's a weird little, uh, little asterisk in sports history. Yeah, Dan, I think that's exactly right. I mean, if we said, uh, hey, we're going to flip this coin. And, uh, if it comes up on the wrong side, I'm going to take one of your digits with this knife here. Um, you, you would want to flip it only twice, not three times, right? And so who gets the one seed?
Starting point is 00:33:26 And that's what these games all are is now, Godell's beloved mediocre. called parody is at our doorstep now and now you know it's really hard to divine I agree with you we all were weirded out by the way you cut off digits
Starting point is 00:33:41 all of us didn't understand what was happening there right like that old Twilight Zone episode right wasn't it a Twilight Zone episode I still believe in the Rams a lot though because the way
Starting point is 00:33:54 they lost that game without that Rashid Shaheed punt return we're not having this conversation without a couple of just lucky bounces for the Seahawks. But while watching that game, I did have one burning question for Dave Dembshit. What did you think of them, Seahawks uniforms, brother? Juju, a little drab, ultimately.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I thought the helmets were fashioned forward, iridescent, and all of that. They did look a little Oregonian to me. But overall, combined with the drab gray, color me unimpressed, C-plus. Chris, hit the stat of Dave music for me. Start of the day, start of the day, and this year start of the day. Stad of the day, start of the day, Stata of the day. Stata of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, in this year, start of the day.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Stat of the Day is presented by Miller Light. Trista's dog is licking her laptop. up. According to Mike Sando, Snitch. The Rams are the first team in NFL history to lose with 500 plus total yards on offense, zero turnovers, and over three opponent turnovers. They're the first team in NFL history to lose, having those combined.
Starting point is 00:35:14 But Damashik, they got four weird ones when they should be undefeated. Like, it's four of them, right? Well, Ad. Mitchell doesn't drop that ball. That would have been a loss that they, in a game they won. but I take your larger point there. Yeah, it just doesn't make a difference, though. They now have to win probably have to win three road games to get to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:35:33 That makes their path that much less likely to end in Santa Clara. You can't pick them if they have to win three road games. Well, the only way I do it is that Stafford won on the road at Brady, and Brady did this over Aaron Rogers, Andrew Breeze, and everyone else. Do I believe that Stafford's the best? Do I believe Pook is totally unstoppable? Do I believe their super balance and their pass rush will always make Darnold do that two or three times a game. Yes, I do. I believe they've put
Starting point is 00:35:59 themselves in a bad spot, but Stafford can do it more than, more than Donald can. Like that's a disaster loss for the Rams. They've done it the hardest. McVeigh and Stafford now have to do it the hardest possible way with Devante Adams a little bit hurt. But I saw Seattle get shredded by Baker Mayfield and I was stunned by what Puka did to that defense yesterday. Like, But Dan, Dan, a big difference between even the heavyweight teams in pro football today versus 15 or 20 years ago. You don't have to get in the wayback machine to make this point. The best teams get hammered. I mean, every single one of them, the teams that go on to win to the Super Bowl, at some point, if you go back through their regular seasons,
Starting point is 00:36:45 they get whipped by double digits somewhere along the way. That didn't used to happen. And I don't mean in the 70s. I mean, like, the Niners of the 90s or whatever, the California. They just didn't take 20-point losses. Oh, yeah, they just had a bad day at the office, and the Cardinals got them. That just never used to happen. Now it does, and you have to kind of, you kind of have to exempt those sort of like a bad day on the golf course when you're submitting your handicap.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Your worst loss and your best loss or best win and all that kind of get thrown out. And what's in the middle is what counts, I think. But I think the large point is exactly right. Three, I mean, three, three, three, three, three. road games makes it highly unlikely that you're going to get to the Super Bowl. And that's that. Dave. You've got to pull the inside straight. You are getting me so excited for
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Starting point is 00:37:49 Demasheek, do you have any idea? And this is why you didn't get invited to the company party. It's not just the garlic breath. I'm going to need to be honest with you. Let's talk straight. Yeah, like I'm sorry I have to do this to you in front of people. Okay. Do you know why it is that Roy and Juju, well, Roy was just laughing off Mike at something that Juju said. Do I know? No, of course I don't. I'm in the dark. I didn't get invited to the party. I'm over here. No, but this is why you're in the dark, friend. Okay, okay. Juju.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Go do your job, buddy. Zaz looking around. Hey, magic crate, baby. Let's go. He wants to talk wrestling. If you're new here, he's been waiting for 20 minutes. He's been waiting for 20 minutes to talk about the iron-shaped cheek. That's about Haxall Jim Duggan, the American Heroes.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Who is your favorite social media follow? I like to follow Trista. Trista be entertaining on social media. Every sport, too. That's a good teammate right there. That seems biased. It is a good teammate, but she's the best follow of anyone to follow, and you're not exactly a follower in the world.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Better than I show speed. Allie O'P, wherever it is, you get your podcast. I think my favorite follow is this dude named Paul Olima. All he does is mock all these internet videos. So whenever someone's like, I couldn't believe I was, you know, my life was destroyed, but I built myself back up and then show themselves crying. He always does a reenactment where he puts his phone up. He's like, okay, hold on.
Starting point is 00:39:23 because it's so weird that people on the internet film themselves crying. Tony, your favorite? That's a tough one, Dano. Get back to me. Okay, thank you. That's good improv. Dave Damashek is doing football America, and you get it every Monday and Friday. I've got the worst answer here, I think, because I've just checked out on social media.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I'd actually like you guys to recommend people that, because Amin took that question seriously. Jeremy's fun. I think every question seriously. Jeremy who? Cache. Jeremy is the best follow. For you. I'm trying to curate for you.
Starting point is 00:40:08 That's not. I think you'd enjoy that. You think you're family. You think I'd enjoy more eager Jeremy in my life. Do that again, Chris. More forever eager Jeremy in my life. If you think you're family. Best of the Year and Review Club coming up in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Oh, wow. That's an exciting one. You know what? Jeremy will be there. My favorite follow, Flanagan's. Anytime I see Flanagan's on my timeline, all of a sudden, I see some garlic girls, I see some wings, I see a burger, I see the only place for red. Plannigan. There it is.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Kendall Flanagan's in particular. I mean, come on. The best of the best. Give me a zip line. Talk to them. Top of the Elser. Roy was laughing because Juju asked you to breathe. To breathe.
Starting point is 00:40:53 To breathe. To breathe. When broadcasting to the people who listen to this show, he was asking you very gently, meditatively, helpfully, to breathe. It was bad. I don't know you, but it was so bad. What was bad? Just the breath thing.
Starting point is 00:41:14 You just were like nonstop. And it was like all the same tonality. And I just glazed right over. All right. Good stuff. All right, listen. Now, what I talked to Chris Long about was Matthew Stafford may well be your MVP right now, but it doesn't resonate. And why versus the Heisman trophy? A lot of people weighed in on Fernando and whether or not he deserved it, and his speech, and Diego and all of that. Why does it carry more weight who the best college player is versus the NFL MVP? It's because of the trophy and the quality of the trophy and the iconic name and all of. of that. That's the assignment for everybody in there today. Come up with what NFL luminary should we name the NFL trophy after so that it does resonate more in 2026 and beyond. So you get not just the NFL MVP. Who remembers who won it six or eight years ago? You will remember, I got the Brady. And then you have the cool Brady pose. That'd be cool,
Starting point is 00:42:14 right? You got to name it after like Pat Summerall. Yeah. Or Pat Summerall. Susie Wiles old man I had no idea How about that? I don't want to talk, man,
Starting point is 00:42:25 and you are all of you. Dad talking.

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