The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Tony's Top 5 + Jake Tapper

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

The crew discusses how they can't cancel subscription services, the U is BACK! and The Rock seems to be a bit of a clout chaser. Plus, the return of Tony’s Top 5 and CNN’s Jake Tapper joins to talk journalism, Philly sports and his book, “All the Demons Are Here: A Thriller.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So you'll come away feeling like you actually understand the world of money. Follow perspectives wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the big sui! Presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries, that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. What is your bone to pick? Because the Marlins are still magical somehow

in the middle of September. Yeah, but I'm missing it because here's the thing. I did sign up for this app, right? And I found a special deal that was gonna get me $5 off, so instead of $19.99 a month, it was $14.99 a month, and I was doing my budgeting, and I said, you know what? Three months, I can do that, right?

And then I'll just cancel as soon as the season's over, because even if they make the postseason, none of those playoff games are on the channel anyway, so I can just cancel, right? So then yesterday I go to tune in to see what's happening. You keep up with that, by the way, I have trouble sometimes remembering stuff that I need to cancel or I'm gonna go free trial

and then I'm not gonna notice it for a couple of credit cards. That's a trick, dude. That's a whole business mind. That's the whole trial, yeah. But how are you guys? Are you guys meticulous about how you handle that? I am.

I try to put calendar reminders in there. That's the thing you're meticulous about. I'm teasing. That's the one thing in your life you're meticulous about going and cancelling that show time that you got for a week for free. Well, so I have one that I can't for the life of me figure out how to cancel.

And I think that it's because of our boss, John Skipper. And it's ESPN plus. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to cancel it. Well, here's the thing. I can't even figure out. They're haunting us, ESPN is taking us from behind. You don't understand. There are so many layers you have to get through to cancel ESPN

plus it's insane. They make you cancel on the same device you use to register for it on. And I have no idea what device that was. They're trying to perk angle. They're trying to fatigue you. Yes. I find out that on a palm pile. Exactly it exactly right just give up and you have like nine

so far right it's a crazy thing it's like three phones ago or something and I don't have that phone anymore so I can't cancel it and then here's the worst part stuck with it I can't find the credit card that I'm being charged for on that so I can't even cancel the card to get out of it that way. I just know I continue to have access for it. I can't find the charge for it. I can't cancel it.

I can't find the device that I signed up for it on. And now, because I have Hulu Plus Life to be, I get it for free as part of that. So I don't need it anymore. The other way that I got it, and I can't figure out how to undo it. I can't find the way to cancel it. Billy, I have had this exact same problem

with ESPN Plus for like two years now. I keep getting charges for it. I tried logging into my credit card because you know, you can like unsubscribe from things through your credit card. You can be like, cancel this purchase or whatever. I can't even do it for ESPN Plus. It will not let me.

It just doesn't make any sense. They've been charging me like, I don't know, 4.99 now for like two years. The price goes up, you can't. It just doesn't make any sense. They've been charging me, like, I don't know, 4.99 now, for like two years. The price goes up, you can't. It's single month. I'm like, doing the math in my head. I'm like, this is how much money I've spent on ESPN Plus. And I've been using Chris Wittingham,

so I don't need this. And it's so annoying. I can't cancel it. They want me to call this 800 number and then I can't call the 800 number and then it doesn't work. And then I don't even know what to tell them. Because apparently, you don't have a username

or an email address logged in with them, but they're still charging me. How does that make sense? Crazy. This, I will tell you how it makes sense and I've got an ear to ear, David Sampson greedy smile on my face because of how amazing this is. I thought.

Had done we all love. No, no, no, no, no. No, this is done on purpose. No, no, no, to God. Not how dumb we are, how sophisticated, that no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no for this was what I'm about to explain to you, which is somehow that ESPN was in 120 million homes because of cable bundles when they were dominating all of this. And about 119,500,000 of you were not watching that dumbass show I was doing with my father,

but paying for it. A perfect business model, because they've got 10 millions for Monday nights, but 110 million we're paying for ESPN and not regularly watching it. So that's the greatest that you could do as a business. Genius. But what I'm telling you is in the evolution, Netflix got ahead and Disney said, wait a minute, wait a minute. We're going to catch you.

And you know how we're going to catch you? When we get your money, we're gonna put our claws around it and make it more difficult than all the other streaming services for you to get your money back. And we're going to fatigue you into the ground with a bombardment of information, your credit cards. And once we have your money, you're not canceled.

It's literally impossible to cancel the ESPN plus. You cannot find, no, it's not. It's not great. It's amazing as a business. I'm delighted the way I'd house sinister it is I'm delighted at that the greed would be that brazen Uh-huh that dammit I agree you haven't taken enough of our money now when you get it and we want it back the answers No, I don't even want it back. I just want to stop giving it to you and I can't do that I'm not asking for anything back. I just can't figure it out. I've tried so many ways.

Are they in cahoots with my credit card company too? Because how come I cancel any purchase or payment from my credit card except ESP? Wait till Apple gets a hold of all of this, including Disney. They're gonna have your money and you're never gonna get it back. Then they're gonna have all the money.

I've put up with like two years of getting Miami Hurricanes notifications using Chris Woodingham's ESPN plus account because I used to have ESPN plus. And now apparently I can't log into it because my email doesn't exist in their system. So then I also can't cancel it. So not only am I paying for it, I can't even use it.

And I'm using someone else's account and getting all their dumb inner Miami notifications. And now their offense is better so you're actually getting scoring notifications for the Miami you're again. For the first time. Well Dan, this brings me back to Bali's sports and their app because here's the opposite problem.

Is I said, you know what, I'm gonna sign up for this deal and I can pay month to month and I will just cancel this when the three months are up and the season's done, right? Except last night I go to sign in and I find out that my subscription just canceled itself and it's like, hold on, this is the one that I want on auto renew and now I've lost that promotion and I have out that my subscription just canceled itself. And it's like, hold on, this is the one that I want an auto renew.

And now I've lost that promotion and I have to pay full price. And I have to decide, do I want to pay $20 to watch 12 more games this season? It's about to be hell to be a sports fan, right? This is what, this is sort of the cost, I think, of the fact that we all realize that it's more fun to watch some of this stuff at home

than it is to go into the danger of the drunks and some of the things that happen at stadiums where people get headbutt. You guys are now paying for the comfort and privilege of trying to watch all this stuff at home. You're creating your menu with ballies to how you're going to consume sports. In the future.

Yeah, but sometimes the food doesn't come, sometimes the food comes and you didn't ask for that certain type of food, you know what I'm saying? Like it's tricky, it's difficult. The revolution is here and in the business of all of this because you know, skipper with all that ESPN money, skipper ripped off the ACC that Miami now tries to win by buying offensive linemen better than someone else buys offensive line.

Mike Ryan is super excited about this University of Miami football team, but something that's happening. You're free, you're leading the jury again. I don't like that. Mike Ryan is perfectly rational, perfectly rational. Rational, yeah. But just a matter of scoring alerts. That's all.

Yeah, scoring alerts. Perfectly rational. What I was going to send out is that Alonzo Heismeth, and I don't know if there's new information on this, but by consensus, Alonzo Heismeth is viewed by the people in the football program to have been the most athletic Miami hurricane there ever was. He is now still in that program. He was not quite as brash as some of these other guys like Warren's happened Michael Irvin Or the rock later in life

But Alonzo Heisman who is a cane and through and through from the time of its a cane thing you wouldn't understand It was also you know the undercurrent of that. It's a black thing you wouldn't understand Alonzo Heisman who comes from that time is looking at something that's just happened that is interesting, Mr. Godds, that bothers him evidently because he's running the program now. Alonzo Heismeth and that Columbus contingent is running the program. He's a former Packer scout and he's a proud cane and he's known as, hey, Michael Erwin, what are you doing with the Seminole over there? Deon and Warren Sap is telling Rich Eisen, I'm going to work for calorado and the rock is on campus at calorado and it was like well you fifty year old guys who are from the

Miami time of it to came thing you wouldn't understand you guys just go with the noises are or you Miami and that's what alanzo highsmith is saying like you guys michael erwin loves to tell the story of calling his old dorm room number the old when he was in the pros winning championship And yelling at somebody that they had to be better as a Miami hurricane representing the Miami Hurricanes. They've all now gone to where Deon and where the new loud noise is. And so were you guys Cain's or were you guys just a fan of the spectacle and we'll go where the noise is?

Alonzo is speaking for a very vocal piece of the Miami Hurricanes contingent. That was really bothered, really bothered by what the rock did over the weekend. Now I'm not, I'm certainly not someone to come at anyone for supporting his school they didn't actually go to. I thought it was cool what the rock was doing. He was very clearly trying to relaunch a brand.

He appeared on WWE. It was a great way to get everybody excited. Mike, that's what the rock does at this stage of his career. Right, but I do think it's fair as he's... Look, the rock has given to the program in years previous and he's given subsequently, but he hasn't been around lately and this is a time where we could really use his support. So I think a lot of the people that are trying to build this program in Alonzo Heismeth being one of them with his GM role, he's actually a big piece of why this year's been successful

because you have an NFL proven talent evaluator looking at the portal. And you have guys coming over from Georgia's state that weren't highly touted, and they're making immediate impacts on the Smine Hurricane team. So Alonso Heismith is part of the change. And what are you saying is,

hey, if you're gonna go over there, come here too. We could use you. We could use your dollars, but we could also use your energy on the sidelines. We'll get a coach that creates that much excitement, has both college pre-game shows out there. I mean, Deon Sanders is one of Michael Irvin's best friends. Why would anyone care that Michael Irvin is out there

some A, working B, supporting his best friend? I understood, Stu Gutz, but this is about regional identity and this is about school pride and this is about something that yes, I understand what you're saying. Dan, they became the most popular thing in the sport in two games because of a head coach and a quarterback. If the games want that, they want Michael Ervin and the Rock Lear, go get that.

So, God's look, make Michael Ervin your coach. I'm not arguing on behalf of me here on this to gods when i tell you you you must know this i don't care who works for whom just make it a lot of fun great fun make us a lot of content but there are people who care about hey are you a hurricane or are you a seminal because like i'm not that person i don't care that doesn't matter to me but there are people who care about those things and Dion is not a hurricane. It didn't bother me as much as a father.

He's a buffalo. It didn't bother me as much as a father to a lot of other people, but you could tell from the rocks behavior after that that the criticism got to him. He kind of went on a Miami hurricane, a Pala Cheetor by posting positive things about the Miami football program coach Chris Paul, he did a redemption interview with Dan Cillio. Really? Yeah. Cillio is still out there.

They're for maintenance. Yeah, I actually think the rock gave an interesting answer where he paused about Mario, Chris, the ball and they asked him, were you essentially rivals at Miami? I guess they went up against each other a little bit and he kind of paused when he answered that. But I know that the rock is done stuff with Oregon in the past. So I don't think it's a critical. Sillia was better than the rock as a football player. Guys, there's a strike. The rock's bored.

Let him do game day. Well, okay, but here's the thing. And it's going to sound cynical, but like he was just going for attention. Like that's why everyone is going to call a rocker right now. That's why it's so important. And it sounds crazy to say the rock is clout chasing, but like they're just kind of, he can. So he does.

That's the thing. You're just going because that's the popular thing. You want to be part of it. You want to be on TV. If game day was in Miami, guess who would have been here? Right. The rock would have been here. He just wanted to be on game day.

He wanted to be in WWE. He wanted to do this thing. That's be real. He was probably paid a nice fat check to be on Smackdown the first time that it's the show after Endeavor took over from Vincent Mann, whatever, right? So like, when in Rome, oh, wait, I could just go and be on Game Day also the next day.

Like, yeah, we're gonna do that. I can be on Mac, be the day for it. Let's do that. I'll be on everything I possibly can with and fight five miles of each other and get all the attention I can in these three days. You guys are being maximum reasonable about how a great wrestler and marketer would go about selling his brand post-50.

You're being totally reasonable. And you forget the city you live in and the fan base that you're dealing with and Laz from Cutler Ridge cares what about your nonsense when you say that the rock needs to have no leads to bigger concerns. Yeah, I think he's in person. I get there's one last from color Ridge. You think I'm mentioning one last from color Ridge. Just be careful. All the last is say it's all of them. All of them. A lot of people were bothered by it. I think the thing that bothered the most is him wearing a Colorado jersey. It does it like get a life. Yeah, I would say seriously.

I would I would kind of lean a little bit more to what Billy is saying, but I would also say like, hey, just do some of that here too. We could use your help because this is everybody that was on college game day and on their sidelines and is super excited about Coach Prime. What we're trying to build down here is to be that level of excitement

a couple of years from now and they're all gonna be back down here. And we could have really used them after Middle Tennessee State, that's what I'm trying to tell you. of excitement a couple years from now and they're all going to be back down here and we could have really used a master middle Tennessee state is what I'm trying to tell you. There is a former Notre Dame wide receiver who went on a podcast instead of Notre Dame played Colorado. He might root for Colorado just because of the D.O.N. phenomenon. Like this, like, I mean, LeBron's rooting for D.O.N. and a lot of this is is everyone wants

to jump on the band with it. Well, it's not just that. Including 60 minutes. But you have, you have a lot of But you have a lot of sports personalities. No, it's a street 60 minutes clip on YouTube, right? It was shame on them. They're not in for clicks. I mean, so not only got 30,000 views.

I see that we now have a board on talking about the ads without moving today. But a huge part of the Dion cultural phenomenon, and you see the numbers that he got for Colorado, say it's absurd. But a lot of it is touting black excellence and rallying around this proud black man who has a very front facing family

who is doing things differently. And you see all these athletes had also kind of wanna, I don't wanna use the term skip the line because Dion paid his dues in the way that he did, but they all kind of want that fast track too. And they desperately want this to work, which is why they're aggressively rooting for Dion outside of just being a fan of Dion the athlete But that's why like the rock support is this is bigger than Miami

You know what I mean like for the rock and other beliefs is bigger than just my an other thing is bigger than Miami You don't understand to the thousands of glasses from color rich Tony. We got objectify Tony and get some football knowledge next from Cutler Ridge. Tony, we got to objectify Tony and get some football knowledge. Next. me by Priscilla Pressley. You like Elvis Presley? Of course. Who doesn't? And starring Kaylee Spani as Priscilla and Jacob Allordie as Elvis. It's not like you imagine. Priscilla, only in theaters November 3rd. Get tickets at PriscillaMovie.com. Jacob's thing is mystery podcasts.

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How do people always go missing in the mountains? Don't go to the mountains? And by the way, I don't want to bring raises. This is the most white people thing ever. Going missing in the middle of the mountains. It's the strangest thing. You go by yourself, you don't take a radio, you don't take a phone, you're missing for four days

and they find you like 10 years later covered in snow. And it's like, don't go by yourself. If you're gonna go on a trail, don't take a radio, you don't take a phone, you're missing for four days and they find you like 10 years later covered and snowing. It's like don't go by yourself. If you're gonna go on a trail, don't go by yourself. Still gots. Put it on the pole. Is it the widest person thing ever? I believe is what you called it going into the woods by yourself. Is going into the woods by yourself. I can't disagree with that man. So black people don't camp? Yeah, black people don't hike. They don't camp. They don't go with that, man. So black people don't camp?

Yeah, black people don't hike, they don't camp, they don't go on to the woods. This is the Don Limita show with this two gods. Jessica, I am genuinely curious how it is that you have viewed something in the Billy Tony relationship that genuinely confounds me, because it seems to me when I watch them together that Billy always gravitates toward where Tony is, there

is a lot of laughter. Who doesn't? It is allowed, it is happy, it is Hispanic, but I also feel like Billy is doing everything he can to undercut Tony at every turn and Tony is's too much of a meathead. Of course, hockey. Too much of a meathead to understand that Billy is wiser than he is and that Billy is manipulating him. Me.

Thank you. People Dan have said that it's very brotherly, but I feel like it's very first cousinly in the way that you might not like your first cousin, but it doesn't really matter. You have to be friends with them because you see them all the time at family. I'm happy you guys are really similar So they can kiss it, but he seems so happy again with this We're gonna objectify Tony in a second But you can lear at him because we made Tony take his shirt off. Yeah, this is the all I know you are

This is the only device you don't have any other move other than to be uncle to be clear you can't kiss your cousin so like in case there's any question. We have had to dress up this top five of tone or dress down or dress it down because it needs to get more attention because Tony's trying to find a place on the show and it's a crowded show. There are a lot of people talking to a lot of microphones and I don't think Billy's rooting for Tony to succeed here. Do I have it wrong? Yes. I wasn't asking you. Dan, it's hard to tell and that's why I feel like they're like cousins because it doesn't really matter if they're rooting for each other or not They're stuck with one another as long as they're at the same family gathering

All right, well, but Billy seems there's no disputing that Billy seems happier around him than anyone else correct happier and louder Is it just because it's Tony or just because it's not stupids it's tonic and it's Tony and louis but it's also because i believe that in this particular it is fairly amazing that Tony takes this beating and keeps coming back with his tail wagging happy when i'm like man that's poor like cruel what billy just did him but with laughter behind it. Wait Tony what am I doing to him that's so bad. You're mean to him. You just call them a meat head dance. Billy you say to Tony when something yesterday on the show you did it on the show you do this all the time. Tony makes a joke

and he goes PS for some reason instead of saying porn star, he goes PS and the show stopped dead in its tracks, except I hear one stray Billy, way to put that in there. One stray Billy. Classic Billy. Way to, you were mocking him. He was already feeling failure

because he made the show stop dead in its tracks. He doesn't feel failure. That's the good thing about Tony is that he doesn't learn. Like he, which is sounds like an insult, but it's really a compliment in this industry. He doesn't learn, so he's just gonna keep shooting. He's not gonna, he's swaggy pee where he throws up a three and turns around before the shot goes in and is celebrating.

That's true. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but Billy, I am told, now can you confirm this? I am told by a source that every day you walk in here, you see Tony, you ask him, you still work here? Not exactly like that. There is schedule, look, there's a schedule and a lot of days Tony's not in the schedule. He's here anyway, so I say what are you doing here?

He's trying. It's a fair question, I think. He's trying to crack, he's working his ass off. Working in the office, it's a novel concept. Trying. Well, I mean, but you go out there and then you hear him talking about freaking Egyptians and lasers and satellites and things you're working on

Advantage billy actually And so I asked him to dress up as top five that it has to be better than it was last year And so now we're getting beef beef cake. We're getting we're gonna go out to the pool here at the lovely Elser hotel luxury right across from the arena downtown Miami It is a new and popular hotel and we're right at the center of it and it's got great amenities crazy amenities. I haven't seen amenities like like those they got two stories of pool and weight room and that's all you need in Miami and Tony last time he joined us it's all you need for a hotel. It's so right. It is and it's beautiful. It's in

the beautiful beautiful. I could in the beautiful, beautiful. I could say that better. Tony is out by the pool right now. I love that sound. Tony, are you ready? Can you hear us to do your top five? Oh, I've been listening to the entire segment. Funny enough, Billy's wiser than I am.

Smart guy, but I'm the one in the pool at work. So you tell me. See there. He's got you go I did go up There in between to see make sure everything was on the up and up with Tony and check it on him and I was like you know You have this figured out like you're at work, but you're just hanging on the pool for like an hour like how is this happening Because that's what he says for everything Tony seems hurt by the way that he was really hard to tell

I can't be heard That's the thing about with Billy got right you guys can talk shit You guys can be like oh he's a meadhead. He does this. He does that. Why is he here? He's talking about lasers We'll get to that in a second by the way Adelaide's lasers all that stuff he wrote down the website from where he steals games by the way Whoa steals is by the way. Whoa, steals is not the right word. Anyways all that to say I'm here in the Miami Sun. I got people around me. I'm watching Mad Dog Wednesdays on first take. Very exciting. That's a giant television out there. It's a wonderful television. It's the best way to watch first take. Can we go to your top five here in

in just a second, as I tell the audience to God's, because Tony is a Miami scammer, but Miami might actually, the University of Miami might actually be back. The you, I haven't said that in 20 years. The you might be. I said it two weeks ago.

Back, I know, you say it every week, and you have for 20 years, and it doesn't mean anything. I'm rooting for Mike. But the reason I'm willing to say it after 20 years for the first time is because the Miami Hurricanes, and this is a most Miami story because College Football is changing a great deal. Cam McCormick, a tight end for the University of Miami, has petitioned the ACC for a ninth

year of college eligibility and that story has exploded on a wood ratchet TV. We're back. The Sam Harp and of Titan. Wood ratchet TV is making the claim as its top story that the Miami Hurricanes and its accurate have a tight end who is petitioning the ACC for his ninth year of eligibility. Which would set a record, by the way. Now, he is a transfer from Oregon. He was actually granted that ninth year by the PAC-12, which is going to be the PAC-2 next year, I think.

So he needs to reapply in petition, which is what he's doing right now with the ACC. Who has been stingy with this? Ask UNC, ask FSU. They've been mad sting has been Stingy with this? Ask UNC, ask FSU. They've been mad Stingy. With ninth years of eligibility, he spent seven seasons at Oregon. That's right.

Do you run out of classes at some point to take? Are you just like taking like a biology 101 for fun season your ninth year? Like you got to take some classes, right? What are you doing? If I can come back, I'd like to do that. There's always electives, guys. As someone who graduated with 180 credits,

there's always a lot of music. I'm music college, Tony. It's actually a COVID thing, right? I have been waiting Tony for four days for this. Finally, we are getting to Tony's top five football observations. Let's do it from the weekend. Give me the music. Give me my team music.

Hey! from the weekend, give me the music. Give my team music. Alright guys, Tony stop 5 as usual, hated by most. But sponsored by all the haters, capitulators and scammers everywhere. Very exciting weekend week 2 of the NFL. We start in the OLI. Anthony Richardson is special. exciting weekend week to the NFL. We start in the OLI. Anthony Richardson is special.

Oh, already. So is Gardner Menshu. Oh, again with Menshu. He's a special quarterback, Dan. He's a guy that you always wanna have on your team. Do back me up on that. Ah, he is. No, he's a solid backup, reliable backup. Wish the Jets had him.

Number five. The pool is is great today by the way. Just an observation. That was the that was the option. Number five is great today. Number five is great. No, no, that was that was editorialization. Pick up the pace a little we have two minutes. Number five, just an observation. But Pukinakua is on pace for the greatest statistical season in NFL history. Yeah, he's a player. 213 catches. 226 yards.

What was that? I don't know what I did there. Okay, what happened there? Was there a point? Was there a decimal point? He's waiting off of a phone. Did you get a text? Get the meat head trip over a decimal? So many texts of me and it went right over the number

2261 yards None the less an NFL record was that text from Billy Ali is now texty is gonna pepper you I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared.

I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. I'm afraid he's going to be scared. to start last year. Yeah, but Barrow is still feeling like a huge reward. How many circles did they win last year? Wow, that was great.

That was great. That was great. Rings. Trophies. Number three. Brock Purdy has never lost in the regular season. Ten and one in his career. And his only loss was when he heard his elbow. You know what that makes him, Dan?

Uh, undefeated. Perfect. Miss, Mr. Relevant. Uh, Jessica, why did you have to have Mr. E-Relevant? Fallen, we got it. Do it in the playoffs, Tony. Not like Billy texted him somewhere in that statement, but... He's just, he's just...

He's just, he's just terrible, by the way. He is, he's just way he is going well he is well it's because it's Billy's distracting him Billy is texting him not well because here's the thing he's lost kind of his bit he's turning this in the weekend observation style this is Tony's top five do what you do not we can't ask the situation the same bit no we're at it now Billy you got 30 seconds for two observations. Billy Ruofay. Yes, he was.

OK, guys, hold on. Here you go. Yes, he was three inches short. But the NFL should have let Coles Strange get that first down on the lateral and kept it going. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Billy stopped there. Big men need love too. Number one, we got 15 seconds left. Billy stopped it. 15 seconds out of a nail. Here you go. I know the Falcons are 2-0. But Desmond Ritter can't stop seeing a shadow over his shoulder.

That shadow in the form of a lizard. A green lizard. Heinecke's there, he's waiting for him. Waiting for him to mess up. So you can take this team to the next level. Billy, how do you feel? That was Tony's top five live from the pool. It was 15 seconds long and Billy successfully ruined it. State Farm helps you score an affordable price when you button the Home and Auto Insurance

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done lebertard i got somebody here making fun of me how old you have to be to reference check your green man i went comedically there with the funny name of a comedian that's on you for not knowing who shek you know who shek you don't have to know who shek green is but i i get no no i don't like my like it the borscht belt stugats um i have the soul of a borscht belt comedian uh i should be in the cat skills in nineteen forty five

opening for shakie green that's why i was destined to be this is the dan lebertar show with this two gots joining us from the regal surroundings of what may be an office or maybe a closet. Jake Tapper, professional journalist of the highest order. Did someone close the door? That was yesterday that happened during our Adam McKay conversation. Jake Tapper has been waiting there for 24 hours in this closet and office to do this interview and I want to talk to him about politics and being the chief Washington correspondent for CNN and just what's happened to CNN over the last few years

and just fracturing of news in general because he's trying to do good work. He's trying to do honest and factual and objective work. And at these political times, Stugots, this is a controversial liberal who uh... you know runs far left and the country falls apart around noxies in tallahassee is jake tapers to hold on to the old style news and tries to do it the right way factually and loses loses at every turn

even though he's great at what he does because journalism is falling into disrepair and decay but before we get to that, Stugots has not been able to shut up. Since he heard Jake Tapper was coming on, because he wanted to give Jake Tapper a top five of greatest Philadelphia sports personalities of all time. Well, I have a top five Philadelphia athletes of all time.

I also have the Mount Rushmore of Philadelphia athletes. All right. So whichever one Jake wants, one of those different. Are those Mount Rushmore of Philadelphia ass. So whichever one Jake was. One of those different. Are those Mount Rushmore? How would those be different? Well, top five is five Mount Rushmore is four. But would they be different lists? They would not be different lists.

So I could do the top five. I think the top five is the way to go. Why did you just do that? If they're, I mean, I told you I had a Mount Rushmore. I just had to add one now because I told you about. Thank you for all your help. You've been great so far. You know what's amazing. I mean Jake will get to you in a second. I mean it was a Mount Rushmore. I told you beforehand. Now let me explain what's happening. Jake was waiting for the door to be closed.

Just hold on big guy. Hold on. That was yesterday. Hold on. Yeah. This is what happens. I will Jake will get to you in a second. Blue with hands blue with hands and feet. Forget me. All right. You're, you want to share with the audience everything that happened there because during the McKay interview yesterday, you, that was off air. Billy, off air, off air. Talked about our audience funding out of McKay and people gluing their feet to the floor in stadiums because you and Billy, off air, not on air, we're questioning his good and charitable work. I wanna explain to the audience and forgive me, Jake,

for this digression. That's great, just some jackhammering, some drilling in the background, perfect. I wanna explain to the audience, what's happening here is the slow and steady deterioration of Stugots who by the end of the day can no longer do his job because he's talking too much and he loses track of where he is not unlike Greg Cody just gets lost and has no idea at the end of the day or in this case the middle of the day

it's because Jake Tapper has been waiting here since yesterday stugots is delirious and so it's not merely that somehow that's the worst top five I've ever heard him do with top five Mount Rushmore didn't realize that they'd be the same His top five lists of quarterbacks the other day he is that that I'm still infuriated by Because of how bad it was what is the list you're giving Jake Tapper here of top five Philadelphia people please? Okay, I'll give you the list. It's top five Philadelphia athletes of all time you ready Jake because you're a big Philadelphia sports fan number five number Number five is Bobby Clark Okay, good. I thank you number four Moses Malone I thank you number four Moses Malone

Number three now the reason Moses is on there and you're not gonna hear about Dr. J It's because Dr. J never won without Moses you get what I'm saying Dr. J's not on the list No, he's not yeah Moses is yeah Dr. J needed Moses because I know Jake's gonna argue this after the fact Why are you giving us the list before you've given us the top three you just told us the doctor Jay's not how do you not know how to do a top five list I was that possible chairman of the boards Moses Malone has to be on the list that's his nickname Dan did you know that chairman of the boards you want to know why yeah a lot of boards. Ha ha ha. Number three, you ready? Rob.

Mike Goliak. Oh dear God. Mike Goliak was a great defensive lineman, and then parlay that with the Eagles into the biggest radio show in America. Dear God. Jerome Brown was on the scene line. So it was Reggie White.

Number two, it's my list Roy. Number two. I'm personally offended. Nick Falls,bowl winning quarterback a dreadful list one of his worst ever not saying something number one Jake Rocky Balboa a fictional character you don't have Mike Smith let Jake respond he is a Jack Schmidt have some respect. You look embarrassed for him. You look. I mean, you had me and then you lost me. Right.

I was with you on Bobby Clark. Right. We started off good. I don't think there's anything I agreed with you after that. Rocky, huh? Anyone else have a statue in that city? I think the list actually honestly has to be. Let's just do the real list.

Bobby Clark. Yep. Hold on, Jake, video. Can you please zoom in on the piece of spit that Stugatz has on his lip as he tries to share the broadcasting? No, no, no, no. What happened? Still there. I didn't hear it. Jake, are you doing a top five or a Mount Rushmore? What are you doing? I'll do a top five. Get in there video. Get in right there video. There it is. Just truly disgusting. Oh.

Doesn't even move when you lick it. Oh, some chicken. Go ahead, Jake. I'm sorry. Bobby Clark, Dr. J. Mike Schmidt. Um, Mike, I'm sorry. Am I crazy to say Jalen hurts? Am I crazy? Oh my god.

Definitely not. I'm definitely not crazy. Nick Falls has a ring. I mean, Philly Special false as a ring. I mean Philly specials okay, I'll throw Nick false in there, but Prisoner the moment Jaylen hurts with Mike Schmidt. What are you doing? He's starting. I'm you know, I'm trying to I'm trying to get excited How are you about your sports teams? Are you someone who yells at a television

when the Eagles are losing a Super Bowl? Yes, and I am way too emotionally invested in any of it. It's very upsetting. I am very pleased to admit to announce that my son is about to turn 14. And just in the last year, got into football and now I have somebody to watch football with. So it's been 14, he's been, you know, since I got married watching football by myself.

All right. Well, but this is perfect because Chris Cody revealed to us yesterday that he's an annoying football fan. Jake Tapper is watching with his son. What are the things that he is shouting at the television, like holding that's coming back or free ball or whatever? What are the things that you're screaming at your television? Free play.

Free play, yes, I'm sorry, free ball is a totally different thing to shout out. That's a bullshit call. You gotta want it. And there's messing up. There's that kind of thing. got to want it and there's messing up. Does that kind of thing? You got to want it. You're telling Jason Kelsey, he's got to want it.

Yeah, you got to want it. Yeah. It's usually not aimed at Kelsey. It's never aimed at Kelsey. You got to want it, man. I'm going up October 1st. I'm very excited. I mean, this is the insanity of having a teenage boy who loves football.

He wanted for his birthday, for me to take him up to Philly. I live in DC, for me to take him up to Philly and go to an Eagles game and sit in the stands. And I'm like, that is my pleasure to give you that presence. There's spent too much money on that for you, entirely for you. I will do that. What is the most move you've been by Philadelphia sports? I was at the Super Bowl in 2018

when they beat the Patriots. That was like hugging strangers moment. That was tears moment. That was, you know, that was tears moment. Nick Coles then would be your number one for delivering as the backup quarterback, delivering that moment. And I wanted them to keep him and trade wence. I was very clear. I'm on an email chain of Philadelphia diaspora, Congress and reporters and such, and we constantly

weigh in on sports and such. But I wanted them to keep fools. I just think he had a magic with the team. It's hard to argue with Jaylen Hertz, but still. I really thought he had something magic Wait, is it terrible? You're on a texturing you telling us that what you're basically on is a message board that passes for celebrity journalist Sports radio It's it's an email chain and the and the rule is nobody can change the

The subject line so it's just what it's like re re re re re all about meeting at Sunbar for a Super Bowl for a football game like in 2016 and yeah no it's a very select. It's up to 100 now. One of our big coups was when we got Jim Gardner, which Stugatz will know who that is. Jim Gardner, who is like the Crohnke to Philadelphia when we got him on the chain. I was excited. But explain this to me please it's just you geeking out on sports radio topics. It's a community of sports dorks who want to. Yes. And nothing, and no other topic is allowed.

There are Republican congressman on it, Democrat congressman on it. Reporters. It's a safe space for people to talk about sports reasonably, something they can't do in politics or journalism. 100%. No politics. There are two rules. Can't change the subject line. No politics. That's it. And what is the most flabbergasting or hottest take I would find on there if I were trying to find something that would make the Eskin family proud. The biggest, I mean, I think right now, the biggest, everybody's really hand-ringing about the Eagles right now who are 2 and O, but if you watch the games, those are not

great victories. I said it was like having a kid who misbehaves and you make it to the third week of school and he has yet to be expelled, but you're not really rejoicing. That's what it feels like. I think how little trust, man, how little trust in a champion caliber team that you would think after two games, they haven't won by enough. But we're Philadelphia fans, so it's very, we're always on edge. Philadelphia fans, so it's very, we're always on edge. Right. The role of Schwerber and the lineup for the Phillies has always been this season. It's been a hotly debated whether or not he should be there.

So, got's love Schwerber. Schwerber. I will do, but you know, sometimes he, sometimes he can be hitter miss. What do you mean? He's all the time, hitter miss. He's got more home runs than singles. Like, what do you mean? That's all he is. And he hits like a one-aid, he's got more home runs than singles. Like what do you mean? That's all he is and he hits like 180.

It's not a good expression for baseball, I suppose. But that's, he is most maximum hit or miss. Like he has 45 singles, 45 homers. Yeah, he's a keg softball player. Yeah. Right. Whether he should be leading off is, is I think the big debate.

Huh. How far does Mitch McConnell think the fillies are gonna go ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha a number of these individuals. I think the most shocking one is Senator Feinstein, to be honest, because she is the one that cognitively seems truly the most impaired. But I have to say, having been in this town for decades now, it really is remarkable. It's not a lot of them, but there are a number of members of Congress who are, they age into death while in office, and it's kind of hidden from everybody as much as possible

for a number of reasons. One, often they're on their like third or fourth wife, and that individual doesn't want to give up the power she has arrived upon. And this neither did the chiefs of staff. If the governor is from a different party, you know, they don't want to give up the seat. It's just a mess. It's ugly to see. I've been seeing it since I came here in the 90s and stromthurmin was jumping all over the place, grabbing people with this big claw, his

big talent. Jake, don't you feel like you're just losing all the time? It doesn't mean that your fight is not righteous, but given how brazen and corrupt and contaminated all of this has gotten, that the power grabs are that overt and that corruption is that rampant, that right now what you're seeing in America is a shamelessness you've never seen. Don't you feel like you're always losing? I think it is, I think no, but I do think there is something to what you're saying in the sense that if the best defense the Democrats can come up for

the Hunter Biden situation is, well sure it looks awful and he shouldn't have been making millions of dollars off his dad's name for jobs he wasn't qualified for, but that happens a lot in Washington. If that's the best defense, then why are people not trying to fix that instead of use that as a defense? It's pretty disparaging, I think, but by the same token, it's also, I think, gratifying to point it out and challenge people to think about the status quo that way. CNN itself is seemingly changing in voice and enduring turbulent leadership.

I'm not asking you to speak ill of your boss. I am asking you to walk me through what you've seen happen at CNN over the last, I don't know, five years where you see CNN news contaminated by content and editorial decisions that are being made by people who don't necessarily care about objective or straightforward news. Well, I think that we have a great new boss, Mark Thompson, who used to be at the New York Times and the BBC, and he's just taken over,

and he seems to be a real professional. And one of the things beyond the challenge of editorial and guiding a news organization through the situation we're in in the country right now, where so many people are just siloing themselves off with news organizations that have opinions that they agree with and just trying to keep away from objective news. Is the business idea of news, the tectonics that are shifting underneath our feet, you see it when charter and Disney get into a big fight. And people talk about the cable business, not being profitable. And James Corden retires and CVS

doesn't even replace them. Like all those things that are happening that someday we'll be able to look back and say, well, that was the sign of these things changing. The writer's strike is part of it, the streamers. So hopefully Mark Thompson will be part of getting us to the other side. I think there will always be a role for live objective cable news. I do think that Donald Trump is a disruptor. And I think that sometimes that's for the good and sometimes it's for

the bad. And one of the things that was for the bad is that during his presidency, he made facts and truth into partisan debate. If you told the truth about him, you were biased, whether you were a Republican or a Democrat. He's still a tax fox. A fox is saying something nice about Grand Dissantis. He attacks foxes as fake news. So his doing that, I think, disrupted a lot of news organizations.

And Fox having to pay that huge settlement, $787.5 million to Dominion is an example of that. They got so wrapped up in being allegiance to to the lies Trump was telling that they didn't remember that you're not allowed to do that if you're defaming someone. So I think that during that period everybody got every news organization got knocked off their equilibrium a little bit and I think that CNN was no exception and I think everybody needed to recalibrate a little. And I think that we're in a good place right now.

I have. That's my basic tank. I have two final questions for you here. And I should remind the audience. I admire him for a lot of different reasons. One of them is in spare time, he just writes books. Books are hard to write. Oh, yeah, he did. This is a novel, but I wrote all the demons are here. We will get to that in a moment with you, but I wanted to ask you before we talked about that, if that was a puppet over your right shoulder. Oh, it's a puppet. Yeah, look. Okay. It looks like Bert.

Mm-hmm. So, thank you. No, it's supposed to be me. It's supposed to be you. You sell the book, maybe? Yeah, you're on the computer. Would you use him to sell the book right now please? Yeah, all the demons are here. Jake Tapper is here as a ventriloquist with his, his muppet of some sort.

Go ahead and sell your book. Why should people read this? It is a, it is a great thrilling novel. And I need you to hide your mouth a little bit better than that. That's a younger Jake Tapper. I'm not good at this. OK, do it the best you can. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to make you a ventriloquist instead of a professional journalist.

Now you're quitting entirely. You refuse to be made a fool of. I tried to do it as professionally as I could. You got never enough of that, did I? You got greedy. OK, I'm sorry. All the demons are here. Please tell the people why they should be reading your book. It's a stiff-bun thriller. It takes place in 1977. There are two main characters. One is Ike. He's an A.W.L. Marine and he finds himself on the pit crew of Evil Can Evil. So that's in Montana. So that's the in Montana and people can evil in this book runs for president. And I have played that out as one might.

There was actually an evil, can evil presidential run as a stunt in 1972, but this I take it a little further in 1977. And that story kind of explores the idea of why people like evil, can evil have followers, why that kind of American archetype, the salesman, the showman gets followers because as you know, he wasn't a particularly gifted motor cyclist. He just had had a lot of provato and he was willing to do things that others weren't. Tony, I'm shocked by this. Put this on the pole, please, that Levitar show. Did you know

that evil, Keneval was not a particularly gifted motorcycling? I'm rangers. I'm rangers. I'm rangers what you say. Blast fever. And then the other character is is sister Lucy and she's a she joins a new tabloid in Washington DC and she's tracking down a serial killer and the new owner of the newspapers is based on Rupert Murdock.

And so that story gets into it's's not just a who-done it, but also looks into why we have this kind of tabloid journalism in our lives today, which started really in 1977 because that was the summer of Sam. That's when the New York Post and Murdoch really exploded in American pop culture. Look at Lucy. He is excellent at what he does.

All the demons are here is the new book last uh... thing as you leave here for the day and thank you again for making uh... time for us the most trusted news person right now is blank uh... you come from an ancient time of distinguished anchorman used to be the most important voice and news it is really fractured right now so the most trusted person in news right now is blank. Well, I mean, it's egocentric for me to say me, but I really hope that people feel that way about me because I really try to earn their trust every day.

I mean, so I mean, I could say Anderson, I could say Wolf, I could say Aaron, I could say Dana, I could say any number of the colleagues within my work and I would mean it about them. But I'd be a full month to say me. Yep. You a shifter. See you later. Thank you, Jake. Good talking to you.

Thanks, guys. Always good to talk. See you, Jake.