The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Tony's UFC Video

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

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Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBittard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries That if they're just there that hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it and now here's the marching band to nowhere That face and the habitual liar. I

Don't I don't know who how I go the entirety of my life Without Greg Cody ever telling me about one-eyed Mike Hmm that he's got an uncle one-eyed Mike I just don't know how that happens I don't know how that's something I learn on the air I don't know how people in the content business a family of content providers don't realize that one-eyed Mike would have been a fountain that that both of you are oblivious to it But I'm convinced more and more that the Cody's don't know basic human things for example for example There are tissues on the floor at Greg Cody's feet. There are garbage cans in here. Yeah, I threw them away during the break But they're on the floor

But if you were to get up and walk past you to throw it away in the garbage can during a segment, you'd probably not be happy. Yeah, exactly. See, he wants it both ways, this guy. By the way, Mike was my brother-in-law, not my uncle, and he lost an eye as a child. And so by the time I met and married Erlene, I knew Mike only as a child and so by the time I met and married Earline I knew Mike only as a regular guy I didn't know him as a one-eyed as somebody who had lost an eye as a ute well I mean people with one eye irregular people too yeah to be clear

yeah how do you lose the eye a bottle exploded or something it was right it was like no the story was told it was a cork that went off in his eye. Okay, the cork. A champagne bottle went off in his eye. Okay, it could be. I don't know why a child would be opening a champagne bottle. I was wondering that too.

Yeah, yeah. Weird, said as a child. Again though, the thing that had escaped our attention somehow from a family of content providers is not only that there was a one-eyed Mike, but that that one-eyed Mike had different color eyes because one of the glass eyes was not the same color as his other eye.

And a three-legged dog. As you mentioned, yes. Moving on to other subjects, I've still got this conflict in the room where Tony wants his video to play and is getting increasingly mad at Coogler. Coogler, the producer of South Beach Sessions, has Ross Gold on Wude is gonna join us here

in about 20 minutes. He's got a game idea for her. He's kind of trying to elbow Tony out of the way, I feel like, in terms of climbing up the producer hierarchy here, doing the same thing Billy's done to undermine Tony. He can have the producer spot, I don't really care about that.

I'm doing my own thing over here. Like if he wants to climb the producership, he can do it great for him. He's got great games. Yeah, we can play a game with Ross. That's going to be amazing. She's gonna love that. Like the last one went so well,

remember Golder, what was the other thing? It was like Golder Good. No, no, no. Golder Good was the last time we played with her, which was another Coogler staple. And she didn't understand the game. She was like, is it Golder? Is it good?

And they were like, ah, we don't know. So just to be a hundred percent clear, Tony cougar at the same hierarchy like same level trust me We're not no all all that damn wants is for them to fight. Yeah Why I want I could fight him this is how he does ability. Yes, you want me to go out of Just want some no like I would like Tony in a fight. Thank you. Okay, I don't want he ducked that other guy that other guy ducked me I was there he wasn't you mean okay. Well you showed him too much By the way a lot is coming from a lot of guys that would not step into the octagon to do anything You stepped into the octagon to not do anything. Oh, I did nothing. That's what the report was earlier today

I mean look not my fault. I was there he went to town on that weight bag So this is part of the problem and the fault, I was there. He went to town on that weight bag. So this is part of the problem and the tension that I have here, okay? The standard. You're reading this, by the way, just so you know. You're creating this situation here. Right.

Dan would never do that. I mean, I love Tony. I don't care if he sparred or not. I don't care what he did, I just love Tony. I'm glad he didn't, honestly. When I heard he was gonna create content, he's gonna fight a UFC fire, I said, oh my God, now my poor Tony, what if he gets hurt?

I would never want that to happen to him. Tony looked like a natural from the clips that I saw. Anybody else would have embarrassed themselves, you and your old gates. Go on, Dan. Did he just hit the three of us? He did. Instead of the word walking gates,

G-A-I-T-S as an insult, as a trash talking insult. Okay, so I don't wanna make fun of this part. I do wanna make fun of Billy saying, Dan, you created this. When you say you created this, if by this you mean Metal Arc Media, yes. And Metal Arc Media, a company of creatives who can be very passive will sit in a meeting when I asked for a video from Vegas and wonder if it's good enough and no one speaks up

is it good enough and no one speaks up is it good enough and no one speaks up and then Kugler yells you can air it and that's my content problem that's speaking up so when you say oh god And he's saying not to air it and that would insult Tony Tony doesn't believe that Kugler's got a higher standard than Tony does but you can air it was not an endorsement And we were a passive organization just gonna throw it on air without comment. Yeah, I created this. Yeah. Yep, that's why I'm a bad leader. Yep. You can air it, shouldn't be a content company standard.

You think that's what they're doing on late night? I will fight Coogler who is no longer on late night. We can set up a late night paper view where I kick his ass. Dan, is that what you want? Yes, that's what we want. Let me know, please. He's been very clear that's what he wants. He's been very clear. That's what he wants. Okay, you asked him and his old gate. Here's the issues.

You created this one. Employees threatening each other. You asked is it good enough? I said yes. Yes. You asked again is it good enough? I said yes. You asked good is it good enough and Cooler said you can air it. Yeah, that's exactly how he sounds. Dan, what do you want me to say? How many more times do you want me to say yes? Fight him! See, you're strutting like Rick Flair. You're so happy that this is going on. Air the video, I wanna see the video.

Air the video. One guy's threatening to fight another guy. I'm just saying because the boss. He's responding to a challenge. The boss is saying fight him. Fight him. The payoff is we watch a video that sounded incomplete. He said fight him and make him quick.

The other thing that he said is there's no payoff. Well, Tony said this was a long play. This is a long game, boys. I think the design is another Vegas promise for Tony. Payoffs coming, Dan. Yeah, exactly right. International fight week 26. And his friends get to go to Vegas.

Billy, you can go. There's roller coasters there. Really? Wow, right off. I'm going to have to charge the fee. Yeah. Theme park journalists. Can I kick his ass? Me? What do I have to do with this? Billy's defending you here. Yeah, I said to charge the fee, yeah. Theme park journalists. Can I kick his ass?

Me, what do I have to do with this? Billy's defending you here. Yeah, I said, I was worried about you. I wanted you to not fight, because I didn't want you to hurt me. On the hierarchy of people that wanted me to get my ass kicked, my wife was number one, Billy was right there.

Right there, even, if not maybe more so, because your wife knows you a little bit better than I do, and I'm sure she has those things. Kugler's third, though, he talks a lot of shit. It's fine, we can kick his ass if you want. Okay, I don't believe that is a problem solving measure that we're going to resort to here. I don't believe that the kicking of ass

is something that you have delivered on when you promised us that that's the video we were getting of you kicking the ass of an MMA fighter who you were sparring with. But the thing that I wanted to put in front of the group here, because we do have a number of different personalities here, and I was thinking about this the other day,

I believe that this is the most Latin show in the history of the American sports media. This right here is the most Latin show. See. Latin American. Jorge Ramos y Subaño was pretty Hispanic. Yeah, the entire band. Yeah, they were all there. most Latin show see Latin American Jorge Ramos exubando was bad yeah yeah they were all there in the history of the American sports media and they're

American yeah I am I don't know let's check again check the papers whoa whoa jeez that was harsh on today of all day it'sigator Alcatraz, so damn, jeez. That's the theme park, you can cover it. We got it, your first assignment. Right off. Your first assignment. Alligator Alcatraz, first metal arc assignment. I don't think that's a theme park. It is a theme.

And that works. It sure is a theme. They got everything, gators. Can I give a PSA for people, and this is the opposite of what you would do as someone who wants tourists to come. If you're a tourist coming to Miami, don't bother going to the Everglades.

Giant waste of time. It's boring, yeah. Sunburn, mosquito bites. Disagree on all counts. You maybe get bit by an alligator. You go on an airboat, that's fun for a little bit, but then you're like, okay, how much sawgrass do I need to see?

This is ridiculous. Billy, I'm right there with you. Don't bother. It's the worst of the national parks. Well, easily. Yes, I love you. We got no topography national parks. Well, easily. Yes, I'm with you. We got no topography. Right.

Yeah. I disagree. Where are the redwoods at? You know what I mean? Where are the mountains at? Yeah, those air boats are too loud as well. I know, you have to put in ear plugs. It's great if you want to and we love it and all that,

but don't bother, it's a waste of a day. You're gonna be out there to swat. The place that I was headed, I disagree on all counts, but I don't want to turn this into a marshland critique show. So I wanna head back to where I was, I was headed on Tony because Tony, I have come to realize, because his dad was Stugatz, Latin style, that Tony has a perpetual hustle going

as the most Latin of Latin hustlers that we have in here. And when Tony came in and I asked about the video and he immediately said, it's the long play, Dan. I knew there had been no sparring. I knew there had been, yeah, long play, Dan-o. Send me back to Vegas so I can make more videos of not sparring with guys I promised to spar with. Well, here's the thing right so you have I like the

Start we go and Stu gots knows you have the long game right you got the long car and long game You can't deliver on the first on the first video right? What's the point? It's are limited well exactly when you don't deliver exactly but You said you would deliver, but if you go into it with a long play in mind, why deliver in the first five, 10 minutes? This is textbook though. Look at the demand to see this video already. It's palpable.

And you guys want to see this fight now. He's just learning from Jake Paul. The public appetite to see this fight now between Tony and this chicken shit has grown exponentially. So we're looking at the first video of maybe a series of three or four videos, right? Or we get ready not me going to Vegas. There's a rematch exactly So we've got there needs to be a match for we've got we've got the initial video getting ready, right? And now we've got the secondary video getting ready with maybe another UFC legend who's maybe local, right? So he teaches me his ways and then it culminates with the fight between me and bad Tavares who has

And then it culminates with the fight between me and Bad Tavares who has tied Michael Bisping for the most wins in the middleweight division in UFC history. And as you see this video, you're going to see he's basically like the rock. But instead of 6'5", being like 6 foot. So there's appetite for what can happen in the next like three videos. Say less. I mean it. Well, but don't make less because. I'm not making less, I'm making more. He's making more. I'm making more, you want less, I want more. Stop making attention, it's a long play.

The play seems to be on you, but it's a long play. Make it longer, make it a 10 part series. He has to go train in the Philippines next. Yeah, put it in the. There's theme parks there. Put it on the pole. Does there need to be a match in order for there to be a rematch at Levitage?

That's video three and four. We will get to this video in a moment. But Cody, do you have a ruling on this? Because at this point we have to play the video, but it doesn't have the strongest endorsement from Kugler, who has created a game. He said play it. That he feels like will save this hour in the event that Tony nukes the hour with his video that doesn't have a payoff according to Kugler.

Right. I do have a ruling. My ruling is that we play the video with the understanding that Tony will develop thick skin because he will be subject, I suspect, to sort of an an unkind post-mortem to the video play. Possibly. It seems as though the implication is Tony does not have thick skin, which I feel like he's displayed nothing but thick skin thus far today. Thank you.

Yeah. Alligator skin, some are saying. Yeah. Feel those tries? I have found Tony to be generally a Latino male defensive in the places where the largest insecurities reside. Covered in armor. Which is where?

He's saying you have a little dick. Prove him wrong. That's in video three. I can vouch for Tony. Thank you, Stu. Also, we start measuring to see who gets in the octagon. We'll measure and we'll see who else. That's the tip of the statement.

I'm never getting in. I am. I never get in. Guys that don't want to step into the octagon are saying that you did something. Like, go and do it then. But you let the guy leave. He was there.

Why didn't you fight? He left on his own. Can I ask you a thing? Whose fault is it? You went with a group of people who were supposed to coordinate this fight. Right. He was there. Right, and you were there.

And he got out somehow. How did that happen? He showed up to do it, and then he left. I'm working on the bags with Coach Eric Nixik. I'm not looking to say like, hey. But when he's there, shoot with him, and then shoot out of order and do the other thing. Billy, did you see the videos though?

No. Tony looks good, man. I saw online, he looked a little tired, if I'm gonna be honest. Yeah, he was tired from training. I looked a little tired.? No. Tony looks good, man. I saw online he looked a little tired, if I'm going to be honest. Yeah, he was tired from turning on. He looked a little tired. It's the most. I think they'd be a coach.

Did you watch Lewis? Lewis was dead. I mean, but Lewis, I've taken bigger craps than Lewis, honestly. I don't believe you. What a great insult, man. I've taken bigger craps than Lewis. Respectfully.

All right, that's hard. Wait a minute. I mean, that's more complimentary to my craps than it is, you know, like an insult to him. I would like to see that crapper. He's not the biggest guy. Holy crap. That's video four.

Thank you, Greg. Thank you. Greg's right. ["The Last Post"] Put it on the poll please, at Levitard Show. Is it okay to say you've taken bigger craps than someone if you add the word respectfully? Because I realized as I was saying it,

it wasn't coming out as I intended. It was more to be complimentary towards my crap than diminutive to Lewis. If you say respectfully, you're about to disrespect someone Why did it afterwards? Minor penalty two minutes for lying No, you me you really not Lewis. Oh, I'm not putting Lewis out I want to play the video though Lewis, please

Because I do believe that people underestimate what combat sports are all the time. No, I don't want you anymore. It doesn't matter. Someone has to play the video. I gotta turn this out. I mean, kid is sick. It's okay.

Real pickle. I don't need you. It's okay. I don't need you. Two minutes for lying. Well, he's being penalized for taking a gigantic crap. It's not fair. Not that gigantic. Lewis is in pain. Something, that's being penalized for taking a gigantic crap. It's not fair. Not that gigantic.

Lewis is in prison. Something that's the penalty. Imagine the pain I was in for that to happen. It was a crime scene. I'd like to see a photograph of that. Would you? By which I mean, I wouldn't. I mean, I would.

If there was a crap the size of Lewis, I'd like to see it too. I'm trying to imagine it. I would. Call up Guinness. Put it in the world record. That would. It would appear that Shane Gillis Alexander has signed a $285 million extension. Wow.

I mean, now hosting the ESPYs, winning the NBA championship, what a summer for this young man. So what I was saying, Stu Gatz, is that people underestimate all the time how strong these human beings are and these mixed martial artists, how technically sound they are.

So there is someone on social media, he hosts a popular podcast, The Name Escapes Me, but he has been challenging UFC fighters saying I'm 260. His argument is always I'm 260. I got muscles, I've got 260. And the UFC community did it to Nate Diaz first, I think. And everyone's laughing at him saying, no, you don't understand that Mighty Mouse at 125 would take you out. Why are you saying that 260 is some special

thing because you weigh 260? Sean Strickland here, this guy is going up against a 300 pound football player, an offensive lineman. He is much smaller than the offensive lineman. And people think that size advantages are much of a distinction here between sports when combat sports are fighting. The reason they have weight classes is because people of similar skill have to be of similar weight. But Shawn Strickland is going to be as strong as a UF as a as a NFL lineman an NFL lineman is going to try to be strong with him and isn't going to have The the skill set necessary to do anything with someone who is 60 pounds lighter than he is and look at Tony grinning

Manai, good scramble from from Strickland there. I saw him flip him hung in there That's a guy who's like 275 pounds just threw him over. It matters in a fight, dude. In a fight it matters unless you have somebody who is skilled at fighting and someone who's not. Like what I'm saying, I'm saying a 260 pound strong guy doesn't have a chance if he's not technically sound as a fighter. If he's not a trained fighter.

If he's not dedicated his life to the craft of it. You're going top of the heap with Mighty Mouse. Like one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time. Uriah Faber, I think Tony's got a shot. The guy you're talking about, Dan, is Bradley Martin. That's the guy who's 260 shredded and says, I'll beat you up. It doesn't matter.

But in the sweet sciences, in mixed martial arts, you have a guy like Mighty Mouse who's a multi-level Brazilian black belt, Brazilian jujitsu black belt, and it's like, it doesn't matter if you're 260, he's gonna put you in some sort of pretzel. And you're not gonna know. And that's dance points, right.

I understand why it is that people thought that Bob Sapp in Japan a million years ago, he had a great deal of popularity because he'd be 350 pounds over inflated and then he'd go in there and he'd lose to everybody He also became one of the biggest stars in a that's correct Yeah, because he was just bigger than everybody and he beat a lot of people because you wear shoes in the octagon again Yeah, that's what they did down there k1

I didn't hear the audio in the the penalty box, but I saw the Tony video my god. He looks enormous. Thank you Yeah, Tony looks good in the know like fat like I saw the two fat guys fighting Tony terrible Right now you guys just played it Tony was in there and he was sparring with some guy or whatever Yeah, he's a heavyweight. That's what Frank Muir looks like. He's got handles, but he can beat Brock Lesnar. Yeah, he looks terrible Handles did someone say handles. Do you want to do all-time handles, Tier? Ooh, I like that. Bob Sapp, by the way, was 34, 24 and 39 for his career. Jeremy, you know something about me, right?

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Don Lebatard. I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public. Stugats. Don't do it. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. The The The The The

The The The The The Let's drop to the side for a second. Let's watch Tony's video first. Tony, what is the setup that this requires? And ultimately, how was Vegas? Did you enjoy yourself? Yeah, Vegas was awesome. The people at the Circo were first class. Derek, Rami, Aaron, all the guys who took care of us

over at Stadium Swim. The show was incredible. We had guests. We had, everything was great. Food, drinks, the whole setup, right? So Vegas was awesome. Circo always does it right. They take care of us.

Take care of us like nobody's business So we get there on Friday like it's their business like it's their business, but it's no Hospitality so we get to extreme couture on Friday the idea was to spar middleweight Legend at this point Brad Tavares and and workout with coach Eric Nixik, three-time MMA coach of the year. He's one of the greatest dudes of all time, so is Brad. Very excited to do this. Thanks to my boy Justin for setting it all up.

We train what is called sicko Saturdays, right? And what I've been explained is that throughout fight camp. It closes with you betting on Hawaii to cover. Well, that's obvious. That's the last part you betting on Hawaii to cover well that's that's obvious That's the that's the last part of the parlay so Monday Tuesday is the explanation longer than the video no I got a 30 seconds left play the video We've made it to Vegas we're at extreme couture MMA I'm really excited because this is like one of the birthplaces of modern MMA and we're gonna maybe spar Brad Tavares

we're gonna go through a workout with coach Eric. Buddy there's no maybe. Oh there's no maybe? It's going down. It's going down? Okay well I'm ready but I'm excited this is gonna be sick this is a once-in-a-lifetime experience that we're about to do. Justin we're doing a few workouts before. We're gonna do a full workout before it's gonna be the sicko Saturday workout. Oh my god, okay. Sicko mode. Activated a little early today. Sicko mode. Let's go. Listen bro, I just, I need you alive. I need you alive. I'm good bro. I was worried, now I'm not worried bro. I'm good. Now you're not worried all of a sudden, you're not worried for some reason.

I was built for this bro. He's built like a Tonka truck. Bro I'm good, I'm telling you I'm good. Let's go, I'm not going anywhere for some reason. I was built for this, bro. He's built like a Tonka truck. Bro, I'm good, I'm telling you, I'm good. Let's go, I'm good. I'm in the zone right now, bro. I know, but you're gonna fight a UFC fighter. That's a really bad idea. It's not a bad idea. We're gonna do the workout.

I'm scared. And we're gonna do the sparring, and we'll be okay, dude, look at this. I'm in great shape, dude, I'm ready. I get it, bro. A part of it is we have to, we cover the sport. You figure we have to know what it's like to be doing stuff in the octagon.

And that's why I set this up. You're getting freco and I'm the one working out, dude. Okay. That's fine. That's fine. Feels amazing. It's 107 degrees in Las Vegas, guys. You know, the more I think about it,

the less I worry about it. Really? Yeah. The more I think about it, the more I'm worried about it. I have time to eat, but we're getting closer, so we should probably swap minds real quick. Yeah, we just saw Brad, he's huge. And Hawaiian.

Yeah. Which is like, adds like a little flavor to it. It just sounds more violent. He's a beast, dude. He's an animal. I think he's going to get his ass kicked, and I need him for tonight's show. Look, I promise Brad will take it easy on him.

Okay. You should do this with him. No, that's what I'm trying to say. Dude, do it with him. What do you mean, bro? Let's go, let's go. I think you should do it. There's no option, let's go.

Come on. I'm gonna fight you. Okay, let's go. You know what I'll do, bro. Slow it down until you guys get it first, right? So I'm here. Boom, bing, boom, boom. Okay.

Gotcha. Now I can pick it up a little bit. I can go again. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Okay, I'm getting it now. Now I can go. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Okay, now I can pick it up a little bit. I can go again. Bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom. Okay, I'm getting it now. Now I can go. Bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom. Upward, cross. Oh, f***.

So jab. You're always going to punch across. There you go. Hook, cross. Nice. Jab, cross. Jab, jab, jab. Combo. Yep, so just ground and jab, jab, combo.

Yep, so just ground and pound, heavy shots here. Yep, this bag trying to sleep with your mama. You're gonna kill this thing. Get your legs under you, and use this wall to push up. Get on, yeah. There we go. Oh, up, up, up, up, up. Nice, nice, good work. Oh, let's go.

Squeeze your hands together. Don't pull him on you, get up. Pull him off the wall. Yeah, yeah. Let's go. If I can do that, I can do all things for Christ. Let's go, buddy. Yes, you can.

I love that. Let's go. Ready? Let's go, I'm waiting. Two more wrestling. Let's go. Get wide, get wide in your base. Sink down.

Nice. Stop him, stop him. You are fighting, come on. Get back up, get back up. Oh, you gotta choke him, you gotta choke. Don't pull him on top, yeah? Hey, there we go, get up, get off your knees. Kicks, let's go.

Come on. Come on. I feel like I'm watching on Richard Simmons jazz martial writer. Don't kick my elbows. Let's go cheerleaders, come on. Come on, let's go. Almost there, almost there.

Hey, hands up. Hands up, Tony. Take a lap! Hands up! Show these judges optics! That's the hardest hand I've ever done in my life physically. Alright, so how do you feel? I don't think I'll ever see the sport the same way. And as True Adjusting was saying to me,

he was like, dude, when you look at the worst fighters in USC, record wise, those guys are still going to kill you. He started hitting the bag where I was like, you'll see like record wise those guys are still killers going to kill you he started hitting the bag where I was like yeah I need to stop hitting the bag because he's hitting it so hard that the reverberation of his kick is drowning out my kick

the idea was for me and Brad to get in the octagon together and exchange a couple, maybe a three minute round. At 10% is what we agreed to do. Tony wanted 20, I produced him down to five and we got the time. But then all of a sudden, I finished hitting those kicks, right? We finished the round, I'm obviously a little tired, but I think I won the round. All of a sudden I see Brad pick up his stuff and he left. He was not he was not he was like, hey, I don't know I don't know about this. I don't want to you know, whatever I got to do.

Wait till Billy Gill hears about what you're doing right now. I'm just saying. So what you're suggesting. The idea was for us to spar and then he left he had to go coach He was like bro, you got a nice little a nice little combo. Good hips, bro. Coach, he said I had a nice combo too. Like he coached me up bro. He did.

The first time he did a combo he goes, you're doing this whole thing. I'm like, I got you coach. And I was bought in. I'll fight Justin right now for that man. Wow. Shout out to coaching. Shout out to the boys at Extreme Couture.

Shout out to Justin for setting all this stuff up. And we may hang out on the road. Let's go. They said bro more than Pablo says Peabody. Your point Ever been that tired you only have a certain number of syllables that can come out at the same time I don't I don't think most people know just how exhausting it is to fight a round to I'm not just MMA box around like that. It's a whole different

Your legs go from just fear. Just it's, it's, did you see, uh, Louis's jello legs as he was trying to kick? It was like, yeah, it was really bad. It was his left leg to be fair. So more, a little bit more on sicko Saturday. So this is what I've been told the elite fighters that are getting ready for their fights. This is what they do on Saturdays, right? So they'll wrestle, they'll box Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. And then Saturday is a culmination of all those things where you basically do four different exercises or five different exercises for 30 seconds Then either hit the bag or kick and you have to do that five minutes five rounds

So it's the closest thing that you can do to simulate an actual MMA fight is what we did and we did about 70% Of it or the first round Or just wrestle a bear. Do you guys know, look at Lewis's body there. That is, I feel for him there. Lefty is for me. Yeah, I feel for Lewis there. That tone, that's not great for Lewis there. Coach Nixig had to stop the workout a little early

because Lewis was a color of red that he did not really like. So he was worried. He's like, do we have the AED machine? Is it close? Does Lewis have chest hair? We may need to put the pads on him. But luckily, Lewis bounced back, and he's able to obviously do this and speak and breathe.

He did have you in a guillotine. He got me in a guillotine. When I hit one with the double leg, he did get me in a guillotine. The problem is he needed to crank a little bit more and go back. I broke his hand so that way I was able to get out. But he had me for about four seconds. He had me. I've seen enough to know that you would kick Lewis's ass. Thank you. And Kooglis too. Bring him out here. Enough with Lewis's nipples please. Why do we keep threatening people? Enough with Lewis's nipples. I don't need any more of that. Why did he shave his chest?

Mike Mike because it was gonna be on camera Mike pointed out that they have a Tom and Jerry vibe Tony do you even know what Tom and Jerry is I? Okay, I only ask because I don't assume that young people will know what Tom and Jerry it's Ben and Jerry who they are I don't assume that young people will know what Tom and Jerry are. Who they are. No. No. I wanted to bring up something that I figured

that you guys would be on top of on God Bless Football. I saw that Mostert took out the Dolphins for treating all pros like shit on Twitter. You guys are friends with Raheem Mostert and one season with the Dolphins. He had 18 touchdowns and so I was gonna twitter you guys are friends with rehm most dirt and one season with the dolphins we had eighteen touchdowns and so i was going to send you guys the note when i saw this on twitter i was going to send you guys the note to see if you should you should get my heat rehm most third on because i haven't heard a lot of

people with the dolphin saying this is the business now breaks apart the guys at the end who think that they were more valuable than how they were treated here. I don't think Jalen Ramsey should have any complaints about how he was treated here in any way, but Raheem Mostert is saying the Dolphins will treat you like shit. What do you make of this and have you reached out already to Raheem Mostert for God Bless Football? We needed Billy's reaction to this, so we recorded an episode yesterday and we were texting back and forth

with Raheem Mostert, Billy just bought a jersey. Oh, spoiler alert. Of Raheem Mostert's after he left the Dolphins. And Mostert was playful, he was texting back and forth with me, but he couldn't come on because he was headed on vacation to Panama, so. Why'd you tell people where he was going? It's a big country, Billy.

What hotels he had? You really didn't need to say where he was going. It's a big country, Billy. What hotels he had. You really didn't need to say where he was headed on vacation. The canal, by the way, like in going back to the Everglades for a second, the canal seems like something I don't need to see if I go to Panama, right? I know some people like the idea of like, I'm gonna go through the Panama Canal.

It seems like something you could skip, right? I've never been, Greg, you're a cruiser, I don't know if you've ever been through the Panama Canal. I have not it sounds like a theme park though It's something you should get on yeah, yeah, I think so, but you know Raheem most dirt was talking about himself He was the one who was treated like shit by the Dolphins He scores 20 touchdowns has 1800 yards rushing and the next year He's replaced by aN and all of a sudden younger, cheaper, faster, better.

So that was a veil you know he wasn't talking about Jalen Ramsey he was talking about himself. That wasn't about Ramsey by the way that that I think was more so about John New Smith because he was saying Pro Bowlers. John New wanted a new deal and then they ended up shipping him off. Yeah and you could also say that they treat pro bowlers very well. Even if they have chronic concussion problems. Because Sua was a pro bowler, got a big fat contract. Hell, you could be a pro bowler and on your way to work and get arrested or detained and they'll reward you no matter the optics.

It seems as though Tyreek Hill, even when he begs to leave this franchise, the franchise won't get rid of him. So I think there's an argument against it. And Raheem Mostert has benefited from other franchises looking at that position being interchangeable. He made it to a Super Bowl with the Niners and he got a starting role because in this Shanahan offense, and he learned down here when he set the franchise record for touchdowns, it's very interchangeable. He knows that better than anybody. Tyreek Hill got that treatment because he's Tariq Hill. I mean,

I don't know if most are gets the same treatment. If he gets arrested moments before a football game, we just can't cover a blanket over pro bowlers though, because they, they do pay guys to Billy's point, the Panama canal, right? Like you fit, you figure like, Oh, it's, it's cool. It's like connects the Atlantic ocean to the Pacific ocean and like whatever, would you be proud enough to rep it as having it as like a bumper sticker on your car because I passed this car the other day and it was canal Panama and they had like a little like

like plate on it do you feel like that's something you'd be like yeah like I want that I want to rep that there tourists like I went to the pan no look at this so look on video right now it's just a bumper sticker of somebody's Kia and it says canal Panama and it's and it's just a bumper sticker of somebody's Kia and it says canal Panama And it's and it's a bunch of pictures of the Panama memories of the region Do you think that they grew up there? Not even the region the canal just the canal like Panama? Okay, cool Like let's go Panamanians. That's what I love it. Just the canal just the canal It seems like an extended parking lot really for boats, right?

It's like you're there and you go five feet and they have to stop and then they close the doors and the water raises and then you go a little bit and you stop and they close the doors and water lowers and then you go a little bit it's that it's kind of like I don't need to be moving constantly to stop and look at nothing you know what the whole thing's a scam yeah it's a hostage situation what they they charge you're talking they charge boats thousands of dollars to go through the Panama Canal. It's a moneymaker. It's like their main economy.

Most people don't know this. I don't know about that. Because it was recent, but 90% of it was recently sold to Black Rock. Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show, is the Panama Canal just an extended parking lot for boats? And also put it on the poll, is the Panama Canal a scam, hostage situation at LeBotard

show a couple of things that I did want to point out when Mike and you talk about disposable pieces at running back you see the trade yesterday the trade yesterday in basketball when we talk about disposable pieces Michael Porter when he was a part of a champion, which was just a couple of years ago, he was quoted recently as Denver struggled, hey, we might be in a last dance situation. Of course, they're not in a last dance situation. It's only that Michael Porter's in a last dance situation.

He was terrible in those finals with the Nuggets. He's an expendable piece. And now they go get Cam Johnson, who does all of the same things cheaper is all it is it's just it all it is is accounting is a player you may have liked to as a champion and who was a part of a starting five that when he was healthy was as talented as any in the league before they won the championship

he gets traded for a player who's just cheaper they had to sign them to extension i would say cam john Johnson is exactly what Cam Johnson is supposed to be. The problem with Michael Porter is a lot of people think he should be a lot better than Michael Porter is. But Cam Johnson is on the ascent, was good in Brooklyn, and will do the same things cheaper.

And I just wonder, when I ask you guys about the humanity of some of this as we do all of the counting that this is, Raheem Mosterd had a season you said twenty touch on those eighteen rushing touchdowns into receiving touch on the leaves of what that is you can make the argument it's among the best single seasons any human being is had in sports down here and disposable totally

disposable what happens to the allegiances between customers and fanbases when the players are that disposable that one year to the next, oh the coach did the 18 touchdowns there, not the running back. The running back is interchangeable. A-chan is cheaper and he's faster. He'll do the same thing. There are very few running backs that bridge that gap with fandom. I think you're seeing it a little bit with Nick Chubb in Cleveland. Cleveland had a deep connection with that player but I think sports fans are highly educated in this country when it comes to that position and then you know. But what I'm saying what's the cost of

it when you make it that disposable? Yes I understand that over the last five years we've been watching oh look at that you have an assortment of players like Todd Gurley who come and go like that need him to win a a championship, don't need him done before he's 30, whatever. He was a flash, four years. NFL, not for long. When I ask you about the specifics of this one guy, you guys love him. Yeah, buy his jersey. He's great.

Last week. You guys have a connection with this human being who scored 18 touchdowns in a season for the Dolphins. I think when he scored his 16th that season, Billy told him to hold out. I mean, he did. I did tell him in the middle of that season to stop playing.

I said, you should hold out and get more money. He was having a year. What are you doing? Good advice. I mean, you can imagine his frustration. He has a career year at age 30, old for a running back. And then the next year, he's a discard. I don't blame him for it.

Well, he got hurt in that first game, be fair but this is this is what I would just ask you guys as we make all these guys disposable and totally interchangeable do you think that the ego it takes to the get to the top of sports that Raheem Mostert who is what check out all the speed charts they say the fastest runs are all him he's faster than anyone in the league in the one season he was used right or felt he was used right and was healthy scored 18 touchdown don't you think he thinks that's who he is or do you think he thinks he's the guy who doesn't score 18 touchdowns in a season I mean he has a lot of seasons where he didn't score 10 so what do you think he

thinks he is though like in terms of self-awareness and ego when it takes to get to the top of sports don't you believe that Raheem mostert? Self-assessment would be that he's fast enough and has proven enough that that's something that he feels like he could do again Yes, ego always outranks self-awareness in athletes always right I'm certain he thinks he can do it again in the right situation with the proper amount of Nobody nobody but him would think that but but you understand what I'm saying. But didn't they give him a two-year extension at the age of 30 after that season? I think they did, right?

He was hurt some last year. And again, HN is faster. Right. There's always someone younger, cheaper, faster. Always. Well, that position, yes. But at any position. Well, not quarterback, I mean.

He's also been discarded twice by the Dolphins like his rookie year He was with the Dolphins and he bounced around a little bit and then eventually he found a home in San Francisco Then he comes back to Miami. He kind of proves. Hey, you know what? Maybe you should have held on to me a little bit. He has the year that he had he signs the extension But then he gets discarded again So I can understand why there's ill will there that position is so weird where the Eagles without Saquon Barkley were so close to beating the Chiefs three seasons ago and then they get Saquon, they win the Super Bowl,

but they could have won it without Saquon Barkley. They almost did. Tony, we're gonna play Kugler's game next. Are you rooting for it to fail? It's gonna be great. I'm gonna text Ross on the side and be like, take it. You look so good in that video, man. Thank you, buddy.

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