The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Tracks Are For Trains

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

There are some strong opinions on this show about Tony wearing a tank top during his latest MMA hangout, and they're lead by Greg Cote's complaints. Then, the callers to Paul Finebaum after the Alabama loss, the origins of "wake up and smell the coffee," and David's "Top 5 Ways People Can Die That He Won't Feel Bad For." Plus, in the middle of Dianna Russini's hit with us, news breaks that the Jets have fired their head coach Robert Saleh. We get her instant reaction and watch the news sweep across her face as Stugotz breaks down what this means for his team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. We have a song to play for you in a moment because the University of Miami's comeback victory that David Sampson was not impressed by is now producing multiple songs around here. We have a top five list of ways you could die that David Sampson would not excuse or feel any sympathy for that we're gonna get to in a second. But before I do that, can I just put up a photo real quick

of Tony doing, I don't know whether he was doing MMA stuff this weekend or whether he was doing post football stuff. But what are we now calling the mechanics undershirt that he is wearing there so that I can tell the audio audience what kind of shirt that is without calling it what it used to be called, which I assume is not something that you can say anymore mechanics undershirt what kind of shirt is that that he's wearing there a tank top undershirt okay tank top undershirt that's he's being he's trying to be sensual there correct because that is that is dressed down in a way I've never

seen a media member dressed down when representing himself publicly have you guys seen that before I have McAfee Pat McAfee did that for a long time finally he's gotten away from it thank God well but tank tops he's doing tank tops that are worn on the outside what he's doing is the Cuban Hispanic this is an undershirt this is not this is the equivalent of male Latin pajamas basically this is not undershirt this is not this is the equivalent of male latin pajamas basically this is not a shirt you wear as a tank top to exercise this is an undershirt I've got this correct writers fashion moved away from me once again though he pulls it off though

right does he I think he does he does yeah yeah I pull it off Greg's right I mean Mac McAfee does have this, but if Tony's wearing like a large belt, then he's copying McAfee, because it is a different color undershirt. If he starts working the crowd in his studio. The difference in our confidence levels is that I'll wear that tank top underneath an open shirt

and still feel self-conscious about the fact that I'm wearing that. Yeah. My father, the reason I legitimately associate that with another time in Hispanic fatherhood, because that is exactly how my father always wandered around the house wearing that and his underwear. Like that's what my father had underneath his clothes, not as clothes.

He would never dare walk outside just wearing that. He would not be allowed outside because that is private, intimate time. He certainly wouldn't do a national broadcast representing himself as a media member in a Latin undershirt. I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public. Don't do it, okay? If you're wandering around the

house, that's fine. If it's 85 degrees and you're mowing your lawn out front, maybe you wear that. I don't want to see it in a restaurant. It's unprofessional to wear it in a work setting. The last thing I want to see is another guy's armpits when he's ordering food in a restaurant setting. The last thing I want to see is another guy's arm pits when he's ordering food in a restaurant. And yet you see that sometimes. Have a little decorum. I'm not saying you gotta dress up.

You don't have to wear a necktie or a jacket to do what Tony's doing right there, but don't wear a tank top. It's ridiculous. Shred him! Am I wrong? And I'm not singling out Tony. I'm talking about-

Seems like you are. I see guys, seriously, I see guys walking into restaurants dressed like that. Shred them! I was actually watching the local news last night, Greg, because I was, I was watching your buddy Phil Farrow do the weather report. Love Phil. And a story came on about two women that were kicked off a Spirit Airlines flight from wearing crop tops. And the flight attendants told them that their shirts

were too short and were showing too much midriff, I guess. So they got kicked off their flight and they were on the local news talking about it. And Spirit Airlines hasn't really made it up to them yet. So curious to see what happens there, but kind of ridiculous. That's absurd. That's 1920s America where a woman couldn't wear

a bathing suit that was higher than five inches off the knee. I mean, what century is this that you're kicking women off an airline for wearing a crop top? And you could argue that maybe that's the female equivalent of that? I say no. Shred them! You did contradict yourself. You just told Tony how to dress. Right, how to dress professionally. Men, we can tell men how to dress but not women. Well, you know, I'm not the arbiter of taste. I'm the arbiter of my own opinion. And in my opinion, you don't show up in a professional setting dressed like that unless maybe you're a WWE

wrestler and you want to have a persona as tank top man or something like that. Shred him! Tank top Tony. Yes. Just to be clear, you would be okay with him wearing that on a flight? I would not. Shred him! No, I would not.

You don't wear a tank top on a flight. What? You don't do that. Shred him! Because I'm sitting next to you. I don't want to see your armpit. I just don't do that cuz I'm sitting next to you I don't want to see your armpit I just don't excuse me could I have another drink and then I'm what am I looking at here come on ridiculous how do you feel about flip-flops they're fine who raises their hand on an airplane asking for drinks no one you're wearing

skinny jeans yeah but against my will I didn't know, yeah. No one. That kind of thing. You're wearing skinny jeans. Yeah, but against my will. I didn't realize they were skinny jeans until I tried them on. Right. You know, the first thing I thought, have I gained 40 pounds in the last week? Have my legs gotten fat?

And then I look at the tag and it actually says skinny jeans on it. I don't know what happened there. I didn't buy them. Before we get to David Sampson's top five ways you could die that he would have no sympathy for, I want to play totally reasonable, rational Alabama callers to the Paul Feinbaum show. Alabama callers

reacting to Nick Saban leaving and then you lose to Vanderbilt. I'm sure they're totally reasonable about this. They got what they deserve. If the coach does not reprimand or sit number 13, he's got bigger fish to fry. At least I didn't play like Malachi Moore and act like a little brat. Hey Revers, get your call leveled. You won't want to hear none of that crying. We don't want to hear nothing fired at the ball. We don't want to hear nothing about the defense. It's the players. You tell them to run and play football and quit counting money. It's a game. We lost it. 40 years down the hall and beat it once. But Georgia fans ain't got nothing to holler about at all. if the band would have beat us, then we'd beat Georgia. So, but I heard what you said to Steve and those men. I sure did, Paul. Fine, Mom.

And every damn chance you get, you take the cheapest shot. The man talk, let him talk. If you don't want him on the damn show, don't get him on there. Isn't it amazing when the Urban Myers and the Harsens and the DeBores and all these other guys come in from around the country, they just don't get Southeastern football. They don't understand the religion, Paul.

They don't understand the dedication. They don't understand the terminology. They don't understand the opponents. When was the last time saving loss to Vanderbilt? When was that? How about never? Damn. Take it like a man, You got your butt whooped. Y'all keep talking about DeBore.

Well hey, you know, what about our defensive coordinator here? All I can tell you is, you know, during you need to wake up and smell the coffee. I really don't have anything else to add today. It was bad news, quite frankly. Goodbye. A lot of Brahma fans were saying today was George's daddy. And they said daddy doesn't kill the board with George's stepdaddy. So guess what? Dandy is the milkman. He came and whooped that tail, he handled his business, and he went and whooped out

his money and took that field bad boy down to the river. Go Tigers, Paul. Y'all have a great day. Paul, I'm in sport hell, brother. I'm in the room. Go Tigers, y'all have a great day. Paul, I'm in sports hell, brother. I'm in sports hell. I never thought I would utter these words. Zandi is my daddy.

Can you believe that? Do you hear that, Coach DeBoer? That don't piss you off, dude. It pisses me off. It pisses me off, Coach DeBoer. Alabama don't lose to Zandi. Alabama don't lose to Zandy. We just lose to Zandy. Those accents seem like Hank Azaria doing voices.

How you would impersonate the deep South getting mad at Alabama losing a football game. Can you guys tell me whether you understand or embrace the idea that someone who is hostile and angry tells you to wake up and smell the coffee? Seriously, I'm serious about the idea of why are you aggressively telling me to smell the coffee? Does this seem to you like something that would work by way of insult? It further wakes you up. You wake up then you have to smell the coffee then you really feel alive, Dad, you know? Correct. I would give anything to smell the coffee. He lost his sense of taste and smell after getting the coronavirus so

he can't smell much of anything. Luckily for David I've been farting in here all day. Can you get me some more of that last caller legend, the last caller to Paul Feinbaum's show? Let me say this to all our Alabama fans, because I've caught some flies today, and I can take it. That's why they call me the legend, I can take it. You can't take the heat, get out of the out of kitchen I love the kitchen so let's get that

right I'll ride and die with the Crimson Tide I don't care to go back get my shoe to coat I'm gonna be in Alabama every friggin game but that don't mean I can't be pissed at what I've seen Saturday on the field. Bill Curry didn't lose the Vandy. Mike DeBose didn't lose the Vandy. Mike Sula didn't lose the Vandy. 40 years, you've been here four weeks and you already lost the Vandy.

Let me tell you how pissed I am, Paul. Can I tell your brother? Can I tell you, brother? Well, if you would, go right ahead. My neighbor gave me a pitcher of Costa Bora last Thursday, a signed pitcher, an 8x12, and a frame, and I put it in the current pitch Saturday night at this time to set a match to it. You burned it. I've had people tell me today, well, Coach Saban lost his first year legend.

I said, man, don't even come at me with that bull crap, because that's a bunch of bulls that I've been playing for. I said, man, I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game.

I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going to go to the next game. I'm going people tell me today with both saving lost his first year legend I said man don't even come at me with that bull crap. That's a bunch of baloney John Parker

You got the high trophy front runner Receiver if you get beat by Zandy. It's pathetic, dude. It's pathetic. You better wake the hell up and realize where you at, because we don't play that down here, brother. You might get away with that in Washington, but down here in Alabama, we don't play that.

We'll send a U-Haul to your ass if you lose the South Carolina. You better stop worrying about last week's game and get your ass focused on the game coming up at Alabama. The honeymoon's over. Wake the hell up. You know what this is equivalent to? What's that?

This is equivalent to coming home and finding your wife in bed with the neighbor. And I'll say this with this. Mary Kaye doesn't both agree. You could never trust her again. You might stay with her, but you might never trust her again. You might stay with her, but you might never trust her again. You might stay with her, but you might never trust her again. You might stay with her, but you might never trust her again.

You might stay with her, but you might never trust her again. You might stay with her, but you might never trust her again. You might stay with her, but you might never trust her again. You might stay with her, but you might never trust her again. You might stay with her, but you might never trust her again.'ll say this with this, many K-Dubbos agree, you could never trust her again. You might stay with her for the kid's sake, but you could never trust a woman again. And the same thing's true with Coastal Boy. You can win a 90, we can't trust your ass now. You can't lose the Vanderbilt.

That's the ugliest little sister on the block. I ain't seen a cornerback blitz. I ain't seen a safety blitz. We just let this little guy, this little 5'8 Johnny Mansell sit back in the pocket and make a fool out of Alabama. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Somebody give me Pete Goldin on the phone. See if we can get Pete Goldin's ass back down here. Because somewhere outside of Pete Godin's, too, it is friggin' pathetic. Understand, Coach DeBoer, wake the hell up. We don't lose the bandy. Strike friggin' one.

The honeymoon's over and we need some damn marriage counseling. Legend has left the damn building." A lot of wake the hell up there. Put it on the poll, is Paul Feinbaum therapy for people who would never be caught in therapy? Hey folks, it's Mike. From defending your favorite team after a bad loss to obsessively checking your fantasy lineups, football fandom is bigger than just Sundays. Miller Lite knows the passion that comes with rooting for your team, like the debate that sparked in 1975. Great taste vs. Less filling. So what is the best thing about the original Lite beer? Let it be both.

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Don Lebatard. Baker Mayfield tearing up Tampa Bay 38 for 45. Stugats. Shred them. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. ["The Stugats Show Theme"] David, are you ready to do your top five list of ways people could die that you would have no sympathy for? Yes, but did that not remind you of the oral history? And I know the second episode has come out and I encourage everyone to listen to it if you are a fan or not even a fan or you're new to the Dan LeBattard show. But when you started, you and Stu Gotts, I thought you had callers just like that who

were characters in your universe. Am I the only one? Hey, I couldn't understand what he was saying, but he was obviously, that was a plant as the show, which is how you started your show, no? That's not a plant, no, those are the callers. The Paul Feinbaum's callers are all like that. That is what he takes all day, every day,

and he's built an empire. Our callers would mock his callers. Yeah, but at the beginning, most sports radio callers are something like that. They're just venting. A whole empire of media was built atop the rage of somebody who's lost a game they didn't expect to lose and needed to call somebody to talk about it with.

Is that where you developed your therapy couch? Because if that is a call, I keep thinking that's how you started. That's why we're all here. It's because of a call like that? I remember Hank Goldberg in this market famously used to take calls like that, but then argue with the people who were calling him.

Yes, he would make them very entertained. Okay, so you guys are arguing or talking right now about the history of sports radio? Like, yes, that's right, they farm out to the audience, calls, and it's the lowest form of entertainment where you outsource to Hector on a mobile, hey, will you do my job for me, and then you argue with the caller.

Yes, that is the definition of sports radio You guys are just learning about this. I mean the board beat Georgia But he lost a Vanderbilt last week Last week Alabama felt so much better than that and it's just because it's Vanderbilt if you lose the game 40 to 35 like That to anybody other than Vanderbilt, it would not be this reaction It's because nobody respects Vanderbilt David do you have any Oli for your top five list of ways people can die that you would have no sympathy for? This is me trying to improve myself. No because there's only five All right, that's it number five interesting rowing across the ocean

You deserve it you deserve Just don't do it like to set a record or something no no just doing it For fun or you're trying to set a record by, you know. You just want to be one of the people that rowed across the ocean. What about a large lake? What if I row across a large lake?

I would feel badly if you died. I would too. Not rowing in general, you're just talking about a length that would be record breaking. I'm talking about 15 foot swells, it's called the ocean. Okay, it is called the ocean. What about Great Lakes? Wouldn't feel badly. Right, anys, it's called the ocean. Okay, it is called the ocean. But what about Great Lakes? Wouldn't feel badly.

Right, any lake, so. That's a big lake. Right, it's a great lake. It's a great lake, there's only five. But what about like Okeechobee? Isn't that our drinking water? I don't know. I'd rather you not row in that.

Okay. Number four. Climbing a mountain without ropes like Frisola. Right. It is what it is. You're signing up for it. What is the distinction you're making between that and you climbing Kilimanjaro?

Ropes. The angle of Kilimanjaro, there's no place on Kilimanjaro where if I lose my footing, I will fall 10 stories to my death. And the ropes. And the ropes. And the ropes. Right. People do die, but they don't die. on Kilimanjaro where if I lose my footing, I will fall 10 stories to my death. And the ropes. And the ropes. And the ropes.

Right. People do die climbing Kilimanjaro, do they not? Yes, but that's more of an oxygen thing than a oh my god, I just fell down 100 stories. That's actually a good point because you have climbed Kilimanjaro. If you had died, would you want people to feel bad for you? Would you understand if we were like,

well, he deserved that, because he shouldn't have done it? I would you want people to feel bad for you would you understand if we were like well he deserved that because you should have done it I would have wanted you to feel badly for me not ever now Everest if you die I don't feel badly for you that's an OLA because it's more dangerous my father had said this the other day for some reason I mentioned on the show that he said out of nowhere that Sonny Bono died by, you know, skiing and going into a tree and he looks at me and says, you know what, I'll never die that way. That's the way I would never die. I would think a lot of people listening to this would say, you know, I'll never die climbing Kilimanjaro. And if David died that way, I might not feel bad for him because you know what you don't do? Risk the oxygen being lost as you climb Kilimanjaro. But he's also doing it with ropes.

So if it's faulty equipment, then you feel bad for David Sampson. If he does it without ropes, then you don't feel bad for David. He's not doing it with ropes. This is not the kind of climbing of mountains that he's doing. He's just trekking in like hiking boots.

There's no chalk on my hands. I got news for you. If I'm climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, I'm bringing a rope, just in case. Yep. Rope a dope. Yep. Number three.

Driving without a seatbelt. Oh, wow. Jesus. What if I just forgot? Man. I don't, I owe his wear. What if the seatbelt just didn't work? You were driving, what if you were driving to get the seatbelt repaired and all of a sudden you got into a car accident

Oh, wow How do you prove that exactly? I mean you demand proof from the corpse. Loophole! Number two skydiving Sorry, parachute didn't open. Oh, you're jumping out of a plane What if it was Tony when he went skydiving a couple years ago? I've gone skydiving Come on, this way. Sorry, parachute didn't open. Uh-oh. You're jumping out of a plane. What if it was Tony when he went skydiving a couple years ago? I've gone skydiving.

Many times. Have you skydived in a tank top, Tony? Number one. Good contribution. Dying in a plane crash in a plane that you built in a box. Pfft. There are people who build planes out of a box and then fly them. You can't do that.

You say, oh my god, I just died. A plane in a box? Yes. Who flies a plane built in a box? No, he's right about that, but the hurricane thing wasn't on this. Because I'm beginning to maybe feel badly if anyone dies in a hurricane. I have a nomination. If you're walking along one of those long bridges

that bounces that you're walking on it, give me an example of one of these. I don't know of an example. It's just, you know what I'm talking about. It's like there's one piece of land and then one piece of land, and for some reason there's a really skinny bridge that moves a lot while you're on it.

If you die in one of those things, don't feel bad. In every animated movie. That's, I think, what you're talking about. What if you're trying to get a social media shot from a tall building and you fall to your death? That's a great one. Yeah. I hate those videos on the internet

of some guy at the top of a skyscraper just taking a selfie. It's not worth it, dude. I know you have 17 million views on this, so you probably got paid, but still not worth it. I got tons more. The people who fall into the Grand Canyon. Yeah. Not gonna feel badly for you. So you have a top 10 now. I got tons more the people who fall into the Grand Canyon. Yeah

Not gonna feel badly for you so you have a top ten now I feel bad for people who have falls generally They could just be that they slipped lost their footing I feel bad about that another one getting hit by a train What You about Brightline? You don't go on the tracks. Why are you near a track even if you're hard of hearing and you say oh I didn't hear the train why are you on a train track? I'm just curious do you guys have limits on empathy like you have like if you give up a certain amount of empathy you can't have any more so somebody you know what I'm okay if you die near the train tracks but if you get hit by the train that's that where I draw the line. That's the place that I'm not going to feel

bad for you. Even if it's my wife, even if it's my child, not going to feel bad for you because you deserve it. If you go places you're not supposed to go, we're saying we don't feel bad for you if the worst case scenario happens. All right, Diana Racini is with us now. No, I'm not unfamiliar with what it is you guys are saying. I know, I just want unfamiliar with what it is you guys are saying. Yes, I find it literally careless. Yes, I understand.

You do not care. People die from a mistake and you guys wouldn't make mistakes. Not like that. I mean, the mistake is walking on a train track. I mean, you don't do it. There's third rail. There's a lot of stuff that could happen.

Come on. The train's going faster than you are, buddy. Stay away from the track. Yeah. Tracks are for trains, not people, Dan. Football season is here, and there's absolutely nothing better than game day. But it can be a little bit stressful. Replacing bets, you're setting fantasy lineups, you're figuring out the most comfortable position to sit on your couch for the next 12 hours. No one has time to think about this part.

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Don Lebatard. I heard that as a woman faking pain. I didn't think that sounded real. I really didn't. You know, it was not fake. It was in no way fake. You can spot a woman faking it. Stugats. Yes, I can, Jess. Expert. I've been married 40 years. This the other part show with this to get dayan russini is with us now she's the senior nfl insider for the athletic she's got a great podcast called scoop city it's co-hosted with chase daniel you could check out new episodes every tuesday and friday uh... diana would you like to pick up this conversation with us uh... where do you side on not having any sympathy not having any empathy for

the dead uh... recall that everyone there uh... i sympathize because i'm pretty flaky myself so well i don't think people intentionally are putting themselves in those positions, I just don't think they're thinking about, oh my gosh, I could probably die. Like I take the subway a lot and I stand very, very close

to the end of the platform there. Someone could easily push me, I could fall. There's a, I mean, I'm always on my phone. I'm surprised I haven't even done that yet also it's not that it's not that i had thought about it i just i'm just not thinking about it at that moment so yeah i have i have a special the selfie people i always feel so bad for them to show the capture the moment

it's so hard out there on social media i get it you want to grab the shot and then these people will put their lives on the line for this i mean i feel really bad for them but someone pushing you would be mean, I feel really bad for them. But someone pushing you would be murder, and I would feel bad for you. I would. Yeah, for sure. But what if I tripped? I'd feel bad for you. Don't go near train tracks!

No, but if she tripped onto the train track, then I would feel bad for her. She's not intentionally walking onto the train track. Were you on the yellow line or behind it? What if I was texting or tweeting a Devonte Adams story? Yeah, the sympathy decreases at that point. I think the point is there's some gray area here. Perhaps we shouldn't just blanketly say we don't feel bad for other people when they die in horrible accidents.

What about Jack Doherty? He was texting and he got into the car crash? I almost brought that up actually. That was absurd. So I don't feel badly if he had croaked doing that. Wow. Wow. So what have we decided is the dumbest way to die? I don't think we've come up with a decision just yet, but skydiving seemed to be amongst everybody here.

It seemed to be the highest ranking form of death that would elicit no sympathy from anybody i in all instances anyone dies i feel for them and their loved ones like that certain i'd i'm not putting a cap on how much i care about people or how they die if they're bungee jumping up a rocky cliff again adventure seekers. How about those flying squirrel costumes that people do that seem like an amazing adrenaline rush as you're like, you know, very close to the edges of mountains and you feel like

a superhero for a moment. I'm sure many people die that way and those people are living life more fancifully than I am. And dying ridiculously. Guys, we have breaking news right now. Adam Schefter tweeted two minutes ago, ESPN sources Jets fire head coach Robert Sala. What?

Oh, Diana is reacting to this. She's on with us. We've got an insider right now who is looking at this. Her mouth is open. We have a natural in the wild video of Diana getting the news from her phone. She's too busy talking with us about stupid shit Do you think Bella check called? I mean Wasting her time do we feel bad for Robert Sala? We have to feel bad for Diana.

I feel bad for Diana. Crazy. Of course. That's terrible. In the middle of dead clarifying, you know what? When people die, I feel bad for them. This news happened. In a flying squirrel suit.

That's what we were talking about. She just bailed. We'll see whether or not she comes back while we wait for her. Stugatz, your thoughts on not only the jets firing Robert Salla, but as she. She's back. Hold on.

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This is the job, I love this stuff, guys. I don't love people getting fired, but look, this doesn't come as a extreme shock. The only thing that is maybe catching me off guard a little bit on this is they decided to run it back this year with Robert Sala. Woody Johnson made that decision himself, right? There were definitely some people in that building suggesting they move on from Robert Sala after last year's disaster. We did tons of reporting on

just a lot of issues that they were having in that building outside of the fact that a lot of issues that they were having in that building outside of the fact that Aaron Rodgers was injured. There was just really bad coaching decisions being made. We've seen it and it bled into this year. So I'm surprised when they had an opportunity to do it. They didn't do it when you do it at the start of the season. So obviously coming back from London, London's bad guys. Losing in London is no good. This is where all the problems start. I think it's the long flight. I think it's the embarrassment on international television.

It's everything. The Jets have been focused on trying to get Devonte Adams in that building. I think Robert Sala has been trying to do essentially what he thinks is going to be best for Aaron Rodgers and all this. Aaron obviously has all the power in that in that organization. So now, you know, we see Robert Sala's been let go here and, and I'm trying to just find out who's going to be the interim here. So that's what we're going to work on next. But, but you have to wonder, do you go with someone already?

There is nobody, maybe Jeff Ulbrich, the defensive coordinator, who's done a really good job. I know the players love him. Is that the right fit? I think it'd be Hackett. I think it would be Hackett if they go that route. Stu, it's not Hackett. Well, if he's running the organization, Diana,

that's his best friend. So I could envision a scenario in which he promotes Nathaniel Hackett, the head coach, and they go on and he wants to have a good season for his friend. I could see that happening. Stu, no. Okay.

Look, I'll come back on if that gets me, if I get this information right now that that's the truth, I'll stay on for the whole show and we can discuss how ridiculous that is. Okay. But look, I Is it does Woody Johnson call Andrew Berry in Cleveland right now and say give me Mike Rabil, bring him in here, clean this up right now. Like Can you make this team better?

Do you fire him without you fire him without knowing what you're going to do? Wouldn't you already know what you're going to do and of course bellacheck available no bellacheck is available uh... diana let me stop you for a second yet what you go do your job and we'll check back in with you do you want to go do your job so that we're not in the way i appreciate that can can you guys give me ten? I just need that. You know what, in fact, just turn her sound

down so we can watch her and just watch her go crazy. Put her in picture in picture and so we can watch her be nuts and we will talk about this because, Stu Gotts, you are a Jets fan and I haven't talked to you about what happened on sunday which is robert salad just got fired because they're in rogers was terrible and they've given aaron rogers all of the power in the organization and the last two weeks they needed somebody to win the game at the and and he couldn't do it they were good enough to be in both of those games at the end yet they missed a field goal and then they lose against an undefeated Minnesota team because he can't close off the drive. So tell us how

it is that you're feeling as a Jets fan. You've been talking for a while about Salah needs to be gone. Yeah and it's interesting because not only did you lose that game, you lost it to Sam Darnold who was a quarterback you drafted in the top five of the NFL draft and and he didn't play that well, and you still lost that game, and Aaron has to finish those games off. I said this last week, I've been watching that jet game for 40 years, and what I expected to be different was, oh, I have a great quarterback now, they're going to finish these games, they're going to finish every one of these games,

and they haven't been able to do so. You're all in with Aaron Rodgers, so if Rodgers doesn't want Salah there, why would you keep the coach around when a guy like Belichick or Vrabel is available and wanting to coach? I like the move. I think the Jets had to do it because Aaron Rodgers wanted them to do it and they're all in with Aaron Rodgers. I'm good with that. So when you're doing a mid-season firing like this, there's only one of two ways. Either the owner goes to the GM and says, we're firing the manager today. That's it, I won't do it.

I'm not gonna watch this guy coach my team one more time. Or the main player on your team. Who was the main player? Goes to the owner and says, you're gonna blow the season. We've gotta do it now before it's too late. I think those are the only two possibilities. And in the Jets case, I think it's more Rodgers to Johnson, because Johnson, this is not his MO.

No. To do something in the middle of the season. So I think this is more Rodgers trying to cover up his inadequacies at 41 by saying, listen, we're gonna blame Salah for this because I'm not playing well enough. Is it fair to say that the Aaron Rodgers experiment is failing?

It seems to me it is you can't they have a game Monday night for first place I mean if they win the game there in first place, it's because it's been a while since I could say that okay Unexpectedly it's turned into a shit division, right? Pardon my French, but it just you know You you can't fault him for being injured all last season But you can look at him this year and say you know what?'s got a pretty good he's got a legit number one receiver he's got a good running back why aren't they scoring more why is he not closing games why isn't he not winning a couple of games that were very winnable I'm not saying

it's a failure right now I'm saying at some point when does a jet fan say the Aaron Rodgers thing ain't working it's also very curious because Salah is a, he's a defensive coach, right? And their defense, like they're a little shaky at times this season, but they're still rated top five in a lot of key categories in defense. Yeah, the problem's been Aaron.

They're certainly not the reason that they lost on Sunday. But that's why this is interesting because the problem has been Aaron Rodgers and not Robert Salah and Woody Johnson sided with the quarterback and not the coach. Stugats is saying here that Sam Darnold didn't play well on Sunday. Didn't play well because that Jets defense is really good. Right and the guy responsible for that is gone.

Aaron Rodgers has as many points through five games as Zach Wilson did last year. And we remember that they ran Zach Wilson out of town. If the bottom line is point scoring, you understand how it is that Aaron Rodgers would get most of the blame on what it is that's happening here because three interceptions in a game and not just that, I don't know if you felt this on Sunday Stugatz, it felt familiar the way that he was getting battered at his age to seeing the way that Brett Favre was getting hit around the same age

when he could no longer move around the pocket the way that he could when he was younger. And you can see that the speed of the game on a 40 year old, you can all see, oh, they don't all get to age like Brady just because we're in the age of LeBron James can play into his 40s and DianaBron James can play into his 40s and Diana Taurasi can play into her 40s. Not everyone gets to age into their 40s. Most

quarterbacks by 38 are done. But Dan, we're three weeks removed from Rogers just picking apart a good Patriots defense. He was fantastic. And people were saying after that game, I was saying after that game, that's the best game I've seen a Czech quarterback play in my entire life he was so good in that game. The last two games that I have seen of Aaron Rogers all I see is four yard passes all I see is slants and check downs and nothing down the field when you have a number one receiver that I've been told is a down the field threat yeah and Mike, when he was a number two

with the Chargers, was formidable. And as a two or a three with the Jets, hasn't done much of anything. There has been a power struggle in New York, and your quarterback just won it. They have given over the entirety of the organization over to him. He's had sparks with Salah, right and left, Stu Gatz. There. He's had sparks with Salah right and left, Stu gots.

There've been little public sparks with Salah. That shove. And now as David Sampson says, it's a rare thing for someone to do this mid season or this early in the season when you're playing. It's a rare thing for this owner to do it, that's for sure. But of course it's when now right now because of Aaron Rodgers' age.

As it should be. But the thing that I wanted to say to you as Diana Rossini got a little bit surprised by that while we were on the air with her I just don't think that you do this unless you know what you're doing next like you don't you don't just fire him without knowing what the next news is according to Zach Rosenblatt from the athletic Jeff Albrecht will be the interim coach so he's the defensive coordinator now the interim coach apparently according to Zach he's

beloved by the entire Jets roster and staff. Well that always works. So it's not Hackett huh? This makes me wonder, this really does make me wonder about what happened on Sunday between Rogers and Salah that would make Rogers just go to the owner and say, get him out of here. This isn't working because of what's happening with the coach. Did you see those overthrow interceptions I had? Get him out of here.

Well, it started in the preseason, right, with them announcing that Rogers was missing camp and going to Egypt. That's where it started in terms of the bad relationship. There could have been a Girardi here, though. Let's not say that it couldn't have happened. There's a chance that Salo did something to Woody, that just Woody said that you may not,

that's a line you may not cross. A Girardi is when your manager does something to your owner that that's the end of it. You get fired that second. Like hey, this quarterback's not very good. Why did you guys trade for him? Get out of here! There is also another possibility,

which is that on the long trip to London, they only had one option for in-flight entertainment that the head coach chose, and Aaron Rodgers did not like it. They ended up watching some really terrible movie on the way there, so I wouldn't rule that out. Oh! You sleep on the way over.

I do rule that out. I, I don't, do you? I do rule that out. I don't know. Do you? I do rule out that it was the movie choice on the flight. We're watching I Love You Man again? Hey folks it's Mike. From defending your favorite team after a bad loss to obsessively checking your fantasy lineups, football fandom is bigger than just Sundays.

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