The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Travis Hunter Wins The Heisman

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

SANDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do we all feel like we're Tua's dad? Then, Dan reveals his Heisman Trophy vote as the crew has a discussion on Travis Hunter winning the award, how Ashton Jeanty should feel about it, and whether or not the Heisman still means what it used to. Plus, Nevin Shapiro is back. Also, the transfer portal is open for business and it inspired Jeremy to write a Christmas song, but was it really a Christmas song? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. If you are not listening to God Bless Football, you should be because the chemistry that Stugatz and Billy have is real and it is funny and I just witnessed it during the break when Billy did something and I'd like to know what it is because I could hear the echo

of it in Stugatz's loud headphones but he was saying things that were making Stugatz jiggle this body that hurts after three months of hard-covering football was making him jiggle with delight because of whatever it is he was saying, I think I could hear about Jason Sanders. I don't know what you were tickling Stugatz with, but was it that you're now associated with Jason Sanders' failures because you're the loudest public enemy of this man he's ever had? No, I'm very aggressive there.

Take it easy. You are the national face for criticizing Jason Sanders, not trusting Jason Sanders, doubting Jason Sanders. There's no one in the history of the American media that has done it more than you publicly and had your name attached to it. Well, I mean, in fairness, I think most people just don't think about Jason Sanders. That was probably rude, I'm sorry, to the Sanders family. You've been great at field goals.

Extra points? you're horrific. So Billy tweeted out yesterday, and I just saw the tweet because Sanders had just missed an extra point. Billy simply tweeted out, Sanders! With three exclamation points. I told him, and you know, we'll break the fourth wall here, I told him, I was like, as soon as he misses,

I always have to run and just tweet something out right away because I know that it's coming. It's a burden. Yeah, they're gonna associate it. I'm like I hate it poor guy I mean it's yeah, it's probably not a high right now And if he's on the sideline checking Twitter for whatever reason and he sees me tweeting about him It's weird by the way you mentioned godless football you can vote for us right now for best American football podcast go to sports Podcast group calm vote for us this year tough competition. We have the New Heights podcast, we have Mina Kimes there. We have Club Shay Shays there.

And two of the Sims' are in there doing something. So it's actually Nightcap is in there. And then the Offensive Line with Annie Ager. There's a lot of stiff competitions here, so we'd appreciate your votes. Two Sims'? Yeah, it's not Chris, it's Matt and Phil. They have a podcast together, who cares?

It's weird. Who cares? Who cares? Yeah, who cares? They call it The Sims 2. Sims complete. It's actually incomplete because they're missing the one Sims people care about. I mean, Chris doesn't care.

Chris endorsed ours. We actually had Chris Sims come on and endorse our podcast over his own family's last Friday. So, we're gonna get that video put out. That's right. God bless football. They have The Sims that only football fans want. Not Dolphins fans, they hate him.

People hate Chris Sims, it's weird. He is exceptional on God bless football. He's all right. No, no, no, that's perfect. He's exceptional, Andy comes on knowing he's exceptional and I've got the tattoo of Kyle Shanahan to prove it. I really know my stuff. We're best friends, I know how football's evolving. I've got the tattoo of Kyle Shanahan to prove it. I really know my stuff. We're best friends.

I know how football's evolving. I'm a great analyst. He absolutely is and then Billy undercuts him because Billy's the Duke. Yes, but our audience loves that. They love the dynamic between Billy and Chris Simms because Billy really gets under his skin. It's funny.

All right gang, enough about me, it's Dan's birthday. It's funny. Happy birthday. Thank you. I'm not good, yes, not dead is what, that's funny. Happy birthday. Thank you. I'm not good. Yes, not dead is what, that's what Stugatz has been saying. In fact, it's been a combination of not dead and when I was walking out there and somebody asked me,

how's your birthday, Stugatz answered, getting older. And it's like, yeah, true for all of us. It doesn't stop. Pretty much a universal truth. That's right. Getting older. all of us. It doesn't stop. Pretty much a universal truth, that's right. Getting older, all of us. Sucks. It's the one thing we all agree on.

One thing, there are no other things. We are all in it together, getting older. Yep, that's what we're doing. One of the days is happy. The rest are just getting older. Better than the alternative. That's what you say. Benjamin Button. Dead, that's the alternative and you're not that and you're not Billy brought up don't have an accident today because this would be horrible

oh my god of us all it causes all our careers but you get aggregated and that's probably what you want for your birthday, right? Only if he's in costume, Lucy. Never mind. If you wanna get aggregated, you gotta go on air. Like, you gotta go. Like, just die on air. Imagine the clicks.

Right. Okay, so now would be a good time to do that? No. No. Please don't. Not after we just chanted, you're not dead. Preferably when I'm not on the schedule. Billy, in the middle of that, shouted and got Stugatz's attention.

This delighted Stugatz so much, because in the middle of your football Sunday, there was a play in Texans Dolphins that Stugatz was going to make matter of something, because A-chan chased down at the six yard line. Big play. And turned a short touchdown on a two interception into just a field goal. And he was, and Stu Gatz was ready to make hustle

the determined spirit of the Dolphins roaring back to in the mix. And in the middle of that, I, not unlike Billy, who has his own Sanders, and I've got to admit it, I'm jealous of it, was hoping that when people saw Tua running away from the pick six like a coward, he's doing the Dan. He's doing that thing Dan has recommended for 15 years, which is when a quarterback throws the ball that he just run off the field because it's too dangerous out there. Get off the field!

You were so proud of him huh? Don't run on the yes I was proud of Tua. Yes yes because earlier in the game he had made me say when he dove headfirst no Tua what are you doing you dumb dumb stop slide. We're all doing the same thing. It's crazy. I don't ever watched an athlete like his mother like a guttural reaction Oh, you just make a noise, but he throws in near pick six and you're cheering for two of because he's not tackling the guy It's always like a little boy. Oh here. We go. What is going on the crazy thing about it Is that like cam Newton has said it and obviously a very different body types Like Cam Newton is a monster of a man

Like he is huge but Cam Newton has said that he can't go a day Without people bringing up him not diving to get a fumble during the Super Bowl and if it was to we'd be like no no no No, no precious boy. Don't go over there Run away from that ball. Stu gots is so right in that I'm more proud of Tua when he doesn't get in the way of someone returning a potential pick six than when he completes a 50 yard bomb to someone. It's such a better feeling to watch him not die on the field

than to do something spectacular. He's not dead, He's not dead. All right, you know, I gotta be honest with you, okay, because it's weird. I can't, that guy, it's just, we are watching him in a way that is so paternal that I'm not kidding when I say I'm watching all the rest of football, but there was only one play

yesterday that felt to me like somebody running on, alongside but out of the way of the running of the bulls. Yeah. Where it's just like, yeah, it's like watching Tua in uniform just run safely away from the running of the bulls like we want him to, like he should, like he needs to. I feel like Tua's my son.

Same. What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? And then you look at Josh Allen. Oh, he doesn't care. The most annoying play. The pocket breaks down. It's like, okay, keep him in the pocket.

You don't do that. He gets out of the pocket. It's like, okay, he's running to the sideline. He's gonna run out of bounds. He's gonna throw it away. Nope, across his body, darts it 30 yards for a 45 yard reception. It is weird to see Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen play that way. Yes, where everyone else has to, where even Patrick Mahomes is eking to 13 or 12 and 1 on his knees and every game

is I need to run for 6 and a half yards on 3rd and 6. I need to, I need to. Scamper. No one scampers like Patrick Mahomes. But it's crazy that. It's a good scamper. You guys are agreeing with my analysis on what the Chiefs have become. Is it used to be Tyreek Hill and Kelsey, and now it's just, can Mahomes get us four and a half yards

on third and four? And hey defenders, once he passes the line of scrimmage, you don't have to fall for that deke. He always is like deking somebody. Easy for you to say though. I'm just saying. It's like, I know I would be bad at that, but hey, linebacker that's done this his entire

life, learn. Billy, you were excited in the middle of that Texans game until which of the Tua interceptions broke your heart as the guy who two years ago bought a Tua jersey because you wanna believe in this team. And again, another season. I think you're willing to say falls at your feet or in the mix? Six and eight in the mix?

I mean, they're still on the graphic there, but so are the Bengals. Someone has to be in the graphic Billy. Really? Yeah. Well I mean the culture in the graphic. They have to be. Okay well I'll say this and I'm gonna go on record and say this Dan, where's my camera? Look this way. Dolphins have an uphill battle if they want to make the playoffs and that's as far as I'm willing to go. Been uphill all season. Yeah, so you asked which interception broke me. It's a good question because I was in a group chat

with my brother-in-law and my cousin, and I texted them and I said, this is the drive boys. And then they threw an interception. And then the next one I said, this is the drive boys. And then there was another interception on the first play. But, and I was feeling bad Dan, and I was actually texting you during the game while this was going on and I said,

I think I'm gonna have to start looking into this situation because it seems as though this might be to his fault. And I know no one wants to blame him. I'm sorry it took me this long to get here. And yes, because Billy, thank you, you were trying to produce me from afar by just simply texting me, and I should have taken the cue and I'm sorry I didn't,

that you were now investigating everything with Tua. I was just, what I said was quote, and I apologize in advance because I just need to apologize. I said, people might be right about Tua, dot, dot, dot. I'm investigating. So we're at the stages of Billy Gill, the Duke, number four internationally ranked insider is officially investigating whether we know enough

about football to know whose fault the three interceptions were yesterday, Tua's or Hill's? Yeah, so at 3.44 I texted you, I'm investigating, and at 4.18 I texted you back, investigation over. Wow, that was quick. It was Tyreek's fault. And it's based just on one tweet from at CK Parrot that said, given Mike McDaniel made clear

in his halftime interview that Tyreek Hill was not where he was supposed to be on that first pick off by Kaelan Bullock, we know Tyreek was at the center of all three interceptions and I said, you know what, good enough for me, Tyreek's fault, he's lost. He's lost. It was also two just forcing the ball to Tyreek.

That third interception, you get one hand on the ball, you're supposed to make the catch. You get two hands on the ball. I don't even know what the saying is. But you're not supposed to let them come and just rip it out of your hands. That's not how football works. Shame on me, I think, it's two hands on the ball. One hand on the ball is. But you're not supposed to let them come and just rip it out of your hands. That's not how football works. Shame on me, I think. It's two hands on the ball. One hand on the ball, shame on

you. Two hands on the ball, shame on me, and maybe a personal foul. All right, can I also just, can we laugh for just a moment on the idea that there is a penalty for jumping through the end zone to honor Marshawn Lynch who deserved to celebrate that way after the single greatest toughest run in the history of professional football. That if you were to penalize that, that you should also penalize that throughout my football Sunday I saw giant men winding up from miles away to just throw punches at footballs Directly that one of them hit a chin on the way to its football But that you just have giant men out there now just throwing

Giant punches and in at least three of the games Nick Chubb dropped one of them and he never drops the football Nick and so I'm like we're good with that We're good good good good punching it out. Yeah, If they were sexual punches, then that would be the story. We're good with guys just running across the field and punching people as hard as they can. And sometimes they hit the football, and sometimes they're going to hit you on the chin. We're good with that, yes?

I mean, it's fine. If you hip thrust while you're doing it, and then it's also after the play. 15 yards, yes. No sexy stuff. But Super Bowl looks, I'm investigating. Okay, all right, so I need both of these investigations to continue throughout the show today.

Well Billy's is done, I mean. Mine's concluded, and nothing's ever to his fault. Case closed. Did you guys, did you guys enjoy or care about the Heisman Trophy going to Travis Hunter? We spent the season talking about, we love doing this, MVP of football, most valuable player in college football,

and Cam Ward, we spent the season talking about him, and then Travis Hunter, well, first of all, in the streets, Shador Sanders is throwing the ball, a football in the cold in the New York streets with neighbors because Shador Sanders is about to dominate the draft. And so is Travis Hunter. Malik, not actual neighbors of Shador, yeah.

Thank you. I mean, someone needed to clear that up, yeah. I knew about it because Giants fans were getting aroused, but. That's correct. It was in the streets of New York, but uh... colorado in some ways and these two players have resuscitated a program and travis hunter just one a heisman over running back who'd had a better season the last three heisman winning running back to that's

right to be heard about like okay i get it but i thought we usually gave the award on merit not all this guy's more unique than I am and therefore That's more valuable than what I did at Boise State Do you have a vote Dan? I do do you do you ever reveal who you voted for? You're not supposed to I think after you can but before you can't right whisper it no But I'm allowed to are you one of the six first place? Six for camp ward I said I know one of the six first place votes for Kam Ward? Yeah, I can guess. When I saw six for Kam Ward, I said I know one of them. Dan Poppy.

You want Billy to say it in that voice or in that? Yes. Okay. Yes. You don't have to tell us. I'm just curious if you want to just text me. No, I am one of the six votes for Kam Ward. Big shock.

Yes, I am. Who'd you have at number two? The Boise State Kid. Oh, wow. How much did Mike pay you to vote for Kam Ward? Where is he? Three? Travis Hunter was third Wow

door got one vote for first place I think You would have thought that would have been me. I don't know maybe but maybe While we're talking Heisman, I want to play a clip from our show This is from September 16th week three of the season when Travis Hunter was plus 3500 to win the award if we're're being honest, the Heisman Trophy should go to Travis Hunter. He's the best receiver in college football and the best cornerback.

Is Stugatros right? Holy s***, Stugatros right! Hallelujah, Hallelujah! It's God bless football, it's a religious service. It's, that's what it is, it's a religious service. If they have won you so much money this year, if you have been taking, if DraftKings does all this number breakdown,

all these serious Ross Talkers running around, they know the things that you think you need to know, but they're not killing it gambling the way that Billy and Stugats are. How did Big Board Bets and Stugats, or Stuyagots, sorry, how'd that do this weekend? So Big Board Betz is a Monday thing. There's two Monday night games and Dan,

Monday, two Monday night games means we get the BBBBBB, BB, the bonus board. So we do both games, so there should be six picks, but I couldn't make a decision on the first game, so there's four picks for the first game, three picks for the second game, and I have a weird feeling where I should be feeling confident, I'm just like, I don't know.

I don't know about this one. Which isn't how you should be kind of presenting all of these picks, especially when you're doing well. But I'm like, I don't know. And I'm gonna give you a quick spoiler alert. In my second game, I did some deep dives and I took the under on punts for the game. What's up everybody, Tony here. Do you love sports betting as much as I do?

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I love you, Duke. This is the Dan LeBattatar Show with the Stugats. So here's the thing, okay, and I hurt for Billy on this. Now that there's pressure on these, Billy wants to do this quietly. Billy does not want everyone expecting to win or lose money with Billy's knowledge. But if you're going to force him into the corner, then he will take great care in the analysis

and try to actually figure out how to win these bets. He's not, him and Juju are not doing this casually, and it hurts them. They don't want to lose your money. They don't want to be doing this. We forced them into a corner by signing with a gambling giant. Our sugar daddy pays for everything.

So Billy, Juju, we need you to do the bets. And now Billy goes out there, and people are losing money if Billy loses but two thirds of the time Billy ain't losing. If you have followed Billy and you have followed God Bless Football and all the picks that we've made you have had a hell of a season. I'm serious. Like Billy's on fire. I was three and three yesterday. I have the Vikings and Falcons coming up tonight, but I'm 64, 41 and two on the season. Now, listen, I'm losing money because I buy so many points, but I am 64, 41 and two on

the season, and I believe Billy's like 42 and 19. That's ridiculous. Yeah, and I'm in the weird position where people from work are texting me now, like, what's the play today? And I'm like, well, what are we doing? But I did give away a lock of the Year privately yesterday. Wow, did you? It was the Bill's Lions offer, come on, Lock of the Year, everybody knew that, geez.

Everybody knew that one. Stevie could have seen that. That game, there was no close second, right? I mean, I know the Saints and Commanders sneak in there and all the games are great, Jets, Jags, it's all asinine, the fact that all the games are closed and you're interested in everything and the difference between the commanders being, you know, the favorite and losing a game where you're like, really Spencer Rattler, really that's what's going to change everything around for you.

But getting back to the Heisman, you guys were good with Travis Hunter? Yeah, I was fine with it. I mean, if I had to vote, which I don't have one, I don't know how one goes about getting one, but I'm interested if anybody who has that power is listening. I would have voted for Gentie, but it's also like, I think you just have to look at it in the sense that Ash and Gentie has had one of the best seasons

you've ever, we've ever seen for running back in college football. Like he was so close to breaking Barry Sanders' record and he sat out a lot the season because Boise State was blowing people out it just happened to happen the year that there's a generational talent playing on both sides of the ball I think either of them would have been a great choice I would have voted for Genti but it's hard to look at Travis Hunter what he's done the fact that he's playing two positions and playing them both incredibly well and say that he doesn't deserve the Heisman.

I think this is, it was exciting to have a vote where it felt kind of close though, where you really didn't, I think we kind of knew that Travis Hunter was going to win, but like it wasn't just a blowout. We know Jaden Daniels was going to win last year and so I'm fine with it either way. It was the closest vote, I think they said since 2009. So it was, even though Travis Hunter got vote I think they said since 2009 so it was even though Travis Hunter got the majority of the first place votes it was very very close Lucy to your point. So I'm with Lucy I thought both were deserving. I think voters have different criteria when they

vote but like Travis Hunter's ability to play on both sides of the ball kind of puts him in a in a space where you can't really just compare his stats Especially because he plays defense to or he had you know four interceptions He had like the fourth best coverage grade of all cornerbacks on PFF this year quarterbacks Had terrible passer ratings against him like those are hard to compare against like over You know to 2400 yards or whatever was and 30 touchdowns, what Gentie had. So it's hard to compare because he's playing two different positions so well,

but I thought both would have been deserving. I don't know who I would have voted for. I think it just comes down to, you know, how you vote for the player, which is, the criteria is what, Dan? Like most outstanding player, it's pretty vague. Like you could kind of, you voted for Cam Ward, so you didn't have either of them.

So everyone kind of has their own thing they vote for. You guys obviously love college football more than the rest of us do. I don't think that I'm speaking out of turn in saying that. Was it appointment viewing for you on Saturday? Because I'm wondering if it's a situation of if things have changed or if I'm just getting old.

Because I remember the Heisman used to be appointment viewing. You'd have to sit down, you'd watch it and right afterwards they debut like a premiere of 30 for 30 that you wanted to watch. And it was like a whole spectacle and a whole day's worth of things like leading up to who's gonna win the Heisman and then what am I gonna watch right after. Used to mean something.

Yeah and like I don't, again it could just be me getting old and re-prioritizing things. But like I just kinda like checked on my phone with 10 minutes to go in the ceremony and I'm like, I'm gonna see who wins that way and I watched it on my phone. Yeah, I tune in with 20 minutes left because it's what, an hour long program and you don't find out the winner til late?

I watch enough college football that I know their backstories. I've seen the clips from their families. I've seen the game day specials, so I don't necessarily feel like I'm seeing a whole lot. And it's also like, half of it's just them going through all the Heisman winners who showed up. I said, oh, I saw you last year.

It's cool. All the handshaking, the line of Heisman. I don't watch the show. I'm still interested in the Heisman debate and the voting and everything like that and the players themselves. But like Lucy said, I don't need to watch the show because I was at dinner

and I just saw the notification on my phone, I was like, oh cool, he won, okay. I did think it was cool that Lil Wayne was there. I think everyone should be able to bring a celebrity with them. And it was so funny because Travis Hunter wanted, I was like, I've actually never listened to Lil Wayne before until recently.

You're like, well he's here with you at the Heisman ceremony, what do you mean? But thank you for being here. I did enjoy that part of it, Dan, Travis Hunter, because you see the glitch, you see the jewelry, you hear all the stories, him and Chidor doing whatever they want, running a muck over Colorado with that program.

I saw a different kid than perhaps was portrayed to me throughout the last two seasons. It's so great when you learn about a kid, after he wins the Heisman, and they step up and they make a great speech, and I learned so much about him in that spot. His speech was phenomenal. He is a great public speaker. He's not afraid of it.

He thanked everyone, thanked his dad. It was very emotional, and I enjoy seeing that. I still enjoy seeing that with my sports. I mean, you've got somebody who's under a helmet, who's a star, who then takes off the helmet and in much pomp and circumstance with voters and handshaking and everything else, we still anoint as if it matters. Here's the king of college football.

You asked me what my criterion is because certainly you can accuse me of being a homer for voting for Cam Ward. My thing was, oh that team wouldn't have been any good without him. Like we would not have spent the entire season talking about that offense, best offense, best statistical University of Miami quarterback I've ever seen and that's the reason that I voted for him. But I am wondering while I get into the merits of the argument with you guys if I shouldn't just figure out how to hand over my vote to Lucy and Jessica and Jeremy and do this again and and Mike Ryan the same way that your dad hands over the vote you can't give it to three people so we're gonna have to have a

competition to see who wins not Mike. Jessica just said she didn't know who she would vote for which surprises me if she enjoys the argument well cuz i don't have a vote so i don't really have to sit and think about it too much i will also add that i don't think boys east eight would be in the playoff of a war for ash and genti agree he had a just absurd season i think that the one thing that really sucks about him losing is that i feel like it

maybe sends a a bad message about the sort of season that you would have to have as a group of five player to win a Heisman Trophy award. I think that kind of stinks to be honest, but I also don't think that you should vote for him to send a message or prove a point or something like that. I genuinely think both players are worthy of a first place vote.

My favorite Ashton Gentistat, and there are a lot of them, is that if you just counted his yards after contact he would be the second leading rusher in the nation behind himself. That's crazy. It's like I wish that like I think he is a little bit of a disadvantage playing for Boise State obviously for a few reasons one of which being that you know it's not as easy to find on tv and it's west coast so it's late at night. But what he did is literally insane. He had a season we're not gonna see again

for a long, long time and I think Jess's point is so great that it's like, if you could do all of that and still not win the Heisman, it's tough. But it's also like he lost to Travis Hunter, someone who very much also deserved it. Also, I would have voted for Riley Leonard if I had a vote, but I'm not a homer. Now, there's another big story in the college world

that we haven't even discussed yet, and it's very impactful down here, and it's Nevin Shapiro has paid his debt to society. He had his sentence or his whatever commuted, so he's done now. So I think the big question is, since he's paid his debt to society, does he, you welcome him back?

Like, bring him some money. Granted, $930 million Ponzi scheme. I'm sure some of that's still laying around somewhere. Do we bring him back now? Like, the University of Miami? Not we, did they bring him back? Have you guys read anything interesting about this story that is Nevin Shapiro.

You guys were all as surprised by this as I was, where we're like, wait a minute, what? Biden did what for who, for why, for where? Do we have the answer as to the why of it? Okay, but have you guys done any follow-up reading, or it's just like Biden pardoned the Ponzi scheme? Well, he commuted, he basically, I think it's just time served now. Like you're done.

Yeah, I think he commuted the sentences of like a thousand plus nonviolent offenders. So I think he was in that batch. I don't know if there was like a specific reason or connection that if that exists, I haven't read about it, but. So just okay, time served. It's fine.

Nevermind about that whole Ponzi scheme thing and the last four years You've been at home Even though you're the most one of the most traitorous things in the history of fraud in this city a city Replete with plenty of fraud this whole administration is just very senior spring right now who cares It doesn't matter everything is bad. Why not? It's an odd use of the pardon though. I mean, is it not? I mean- No, it's not the pardon. It's not the pardon.

Yeah, the pardon's going to his son. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's a different- It works- Oh, nevermind. I'm not gonna do this one. Nevin. Odd use, also. Anyway. Nevin, obviously, $930 million. Not an odd use. Any of us would do that for our son.

I don't know if my dad would. Any of us would do that for our son. Any of us would do that for our son. I'd do it for Tua. $930 million, that's bad, right? But like, But the Miami standards, yeah. I was gonna say, but like, if Hurricane's fans are being honest,

he is good for the program. Any pub? Good pub? I mean, is he not? I mean, he's good for the program. The idea, that's a good moral question just to everyone in the audience. No matter how awful your son, would you pardon him? I'm just curious.

I think my dad would teach me a lesson. He'd be like, hey, shouldn't have done all that fraud I want you sitting about what you've done see you see in 20 years Shouldn't have done all that blow shouldn't have done any of that. What are you doing? No dad? Oh pardon at the end With that one last power given to you by privilege. Yeah, you're above the law kid Not my dad. Pardon the interruption. PTI.

They swung you, they swung you by the ankles at me to defeat me with their own Fox network. And at the end, before the grave, as I lose my mind, I will pardon you, you disappointment forever. So you welcome him back, right? I mean, you're the school broad in John Ruiz. You're fine, who cares? Life wallet, what is that?

I don't know. I'm not gonna ask any more questions. So hold on. I want you guys, so you, as I try to figure out how to give my Heisman vote over to Lucy and Jessica, I can't help but see the disappointment in their eyes that Dan Lebatard alleged journalist voted for Cam Ward Hmm

One of six you're disappointed by me. I don't think anyone was disappointed. I think when we saw the six everybody knew Cuz cuz Billy texted us I was like, like oh yeah that was definitely dan and that's the second of the six-month poppy you gotta figure out the other four are very jackson's evil voice graham reynolds karen rattle's uh... probably my father gave back his vote otherwise i was mad at him for doing it otherwise we have two votes otherwise i could just give the vote to both of you

and then you could just vote because you think I have in One of the closest votes ever metal arc media represented your thought process on what this voting should have been in a way That was biased. It was Homerific it was not this one Cam Ward would have finished a bronze medalist for the for the both of you if that if that Well, you also told us like a month ago, I voted for him. With my first place ballot, it's like,

buddy there's still four games to go. I will lose my vote if I said that publicly. Oh that didn't happen. Let's not find that. Never happened. I misunderstood. Manny Navarro probably voted for Kam Ward, right? No doubt.

If we were to guess. It's like voting for Jill Stein. Like what did you accomplish? Yeah. It's for the next ballot, you know? My vote was wasted. Do we have a song here? I want to talk for just a second because something

gets overshadowed in the noise of the last two seasons about college football and where it is that Colorado is an overwhelming success, even if it doesn't end up in a playoff run. Let's transition here with a Transfer Portal song, please. ["Transfer Portal Song"] Old Mr. Oil is soon gonna spoil The best college players from across the land

Everybody's waiting for the man with the bag Cause the portal is opened again Don't care if you're still playing and know you're not staying Unless they start putting more money in your hand Everybody's waiting for the man with the bag Cause the portal is here again They'll be here Watching all the games that you play through the year Y'all get yours If you've played every game you should

Even kinda good So make this December the one you'll remember The best and the richest that you ever did have Everybody's waiting for the man with the bag Cause the portal is here again So why is it that I am both delighted and horrified by how much Jeremy enjoys parading around with a couple of canned hams,

dancing as if he's got a top hat on about the portal. Like, It's a bit long, I mean. Well, but here's the thing though. I so appreciate the vulnerability of, hey, I'm gonna put myself out there with song. But then he chooses that song. It's Christmas time, Dan.

But I, did you guys feel the Christmas in that? Cause I, Everybody's waiting for the man with the bag. If you've played every game you should, But did you guys feel the Christmas in that? No. Everybody's waiting for the Man with the Bag. If you've played every game you should, even kind of good, so may this be the end of your Christmas. That didn't feel like Christmas to me. Are your Christmases different than my Christmases?

Yours are cold Christmases. Help me. It's a Christmas song. What song did you think it is? It's literally a Christmas song. What song do you think that is? Man with the Bag. Everybody's waiting for the Man with the Bag.

It just feels like the 50s. It's Santa. Nevin Shapiro, the Man with the back. Everybody's waiting for the man with the back. It just feels like the 50s. It's Santa. Nevin Shapiro, the man with the back. Exactly. Yes, I'm doing what Stugats is doing, which is, it just feels like the 50s. It's not a winter time, it's the time of my grandparents. You just clearly don't know the song.

Well, yes. I think they celebrated Christmas in the 50s. Are your Christmas feelings, well, yes. I think they celebrated Christmas in the 50s. Huh. I, are your Christmas feelings, Lucy and Jessica, you are in the middle of the holiday season, you're surrounded by Christmas fair. Does it feel like Christmas to you in Miami, given that it's 69 degrees on most days? No.

Except for it feels like, it feels like Christmas in here. We got decorations. Yeah, it's your birthday? Cookies, I made cookies. And they're really good. I made lots of Christmas cookies. Really, really good. I made six different types of Christmas cookies.

I made Italian rainbow cookies. I made lemon ricotta cookies. I made these tahini butterscotch sesame bars with chocolate. I made pistachio thumb prints. I made homemade Pocky. Are they decorated for Christmas? Because none of those sound like Christmas cookies to me. They're all Christmas cookies. They're all out there. But they just have Christmas like themes. They're green and red. Go look. Oh, I made gingerbread latte cookies. That was a late addition to the Christmas cookie box. I do not believe that there is anything more criminally underappreciated at Metal Arc Media than Jessica

and those desserts made with the finest of things. They're a little too healthy. During Christmas season, a little too healthy, but don't taste healthy. No, they taste good. They're not healthy. That's the important thing. I need more gluten with my cookies.

They're not healthy. I'd know how they taste if Jason would stop eating them. I mean, that's for sure. So we're back to this again? Yeah. And by the way, it's not a Christmas song. If you have to tell me it's a Christmas song, not a Christmas song.

Listen, I'm telling you, when I hear Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, I know it's a Christmas song. When I hear Frosty, I know it's a Christmas song. When I hear Silent Night, I know Christmas song. Play the beginning of that again without the vocal and tell me that doesn't sound like a Christmas song. When I hear Silent Nights, I know, Christmas song. Play the beginning of that again without the vocal and tell me that doesn't sound like a Christmas song. No, no. Are you kidding?

No. It sounds like a playful sort of central Santa from the 50s. Oh what? Central Santa? You know what, he was throwing his hip out as Santa's coming in, look. Oh hip out as he gets Santa's coming. Look.

Santa's what? Santa's feeling. What? Santa's feeling himself. He has Super Bowl legs. Old. Santa's doing what? Santa's coming out of his.

Old. Santa's coming. That's the problem. You're not fixing it. Out of his house. And he's throwing a hip over. He's the problem. Oh, you're not fixing it. Out of his house and he's throwing a hip over, like he's starting to dance. If you're a man, you're imagining Jeremy in a Santa hat or you're not, he's trying,

he's got a microphone, he's cheesing, he's maximum cheesing it up on Christmas. He's parading down a walkway coming out of his house, singing in a camera as Santa and he's throwing a hip, and it's a little sensual. It's a confident hip from a sensual Santa. Should we film the music video or? Oh Jesus. There it is, there it is.

Oh. There it is. It's got a cane of some sort. There's Super Bowl licks right there. There it is. Can you guys just admit your Christmas song knowledge isn't that deep? That's all it is.

Yes. It's just hard to admit. But yes. Or to praise me for anything. Well, yes. Also agreed. But those two ignorances on my part make me not like the song.

So now where are we? It's not a Christmas song well, and then it makes me show to you then it makes me rush at the song with Chris Criticism makes me rush at the song with criticism because I didn't get it. I didn't get my own show I Didn't get my own show because Jeremy thinks this. Can we play Frosty the Snowman? I want you guys to hear. That's a Christmas song. You want me to make that cover about Scott Frost?

Cause I can. That's when we could say Merry Christmas. Scott Frost is back, you want to run out? I'll go do it, Scott Frost is back. Frosty is so mad, all right, I'll be back. Get out of here, good. That's how you do a Christmas song. Thank you.

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