The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Tribute to Lebo + Terence Bud Crawford

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

We continue to honor Dan's brother with a tribute featuring various appearances on the show over the years. Then undisputed welterweight champion and pound for pound best boxer in the world Terence Bud Crawford joins the show to discuss his fight with Errol Spence Jr., how he developed his skills and his feelings on Aaron Rodgers leaving Green Bay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite! Presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables

to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. There are some local sports things that I wanted to talk about, including Tyree Kills saying, this is so good. Cheetah.

Tyree Kills saying, I'm going into the Hall of Fame as a dolphin. Just love everything about that. He's all in. Well, and he is going to make the Hall of Fame, but he's played for the dolphins for one year. I don't think that that has ever happened before. It publicly, I'm going to say that Cheetah is unprecedented in making these comments this way, just telling people, and he's right. He will make the Hall of Fame if he stays healthy.

And he will have more years. If you give him a long career, he will at that point have more years with us. So I see where he's going. Well, I think he said that he's going to retire after this contract, but also in the NFL, you just, it's just a bust. So like, you don't go in as anything. You go in as your face. That's why you go in as a bust to the Hall of Fame. Just a weird word choice.

The idea that you get it because a bust is a bad thing. Yeah, I got what just, and it's someone you drafted in fantasy. And I only did I get what you were doing over dance. I get that you didn't have confidence in what you were doing. And now you're over explaining the joke in a way that doesn't cover up your lack of confidence, like a cat covering up in a litter box, what it has done with it's shit. You I know what you were doing there. I prefer you not compound. Now I'm giving myself a bath. I continue. I continue to do it. Yes, a bus.

So what you're saying is a bus is the sports word that you most associate with being the opposite of the Hall of Fame is what you mean. The GAC. But I like Billy's, Billy's take better in that Tyree Kill is saying something that is patently ridiculous by itself because he's been with the dolphins for a year, but also an accurate because you don't go in as a player of any kind. This is what it is you. I'm telling you, Tyree Kill is trying to take the lane of athlete in sports who knows that he can say anything. And the words don't mean anything.

As long as you stay away from wherever it is that cancel canceling is and even that he's so fast that he can avoid it. Like they'll just keep playing him no matter what. He got to close to that line. No matter, he's already there with. Floyd Marina's Tyree kill is already right on the cusp of you do really bad things all the time, but you're fast and you get in the end zone and football fans will tolerate that 16 weeks a year because I don't want morality with my sports stop talking on sports radio about

the Sean Watson. I'm going to be boots on the ground tomorrow at training camp. So I'll report back. Are we going to have live video and audio and the ability? No, okay, great. Couple selfie videos for me. Do the trick. I'm a little bit discombobulated because of the events of the week. I am going to at some point and I, I think our audience so much for its patients. And even those of you who haven't been quiet because you're not

patient, I appreciate it. I bet you feel bad now, huh, Jerks? I appreciate that you have stayed with us during what has been a very difficult transition because as we try to compete with the ESPN as a network, we can't go out to Marlins Park and have video and audio. Well, you're there. That works. I, the other part, and have video and audio that works so that we can get sports information. It has been a trying time for reasons that I've enumerated here on the show. I will tell you,

again, that I am just so profoundly thankful for so many of you who have reached out with comfort and trying to say nice things at a time that it is impossible to know what to say to me. We will have a tribute to my brother here in a second that the video team has put together. I'm scared of what that will be because I have a bit of mistrust in general of everything happening over in Vietnam. I genuinely, can I ask you where to send people because I'm getting a lot of messages of what's Dancer Dread. I almost tweeted out your tweet. Yeah, just say you're addressed now.

So people can send stuff to you directly. Yeah, please don't do that. Thank you. Thank you for asking because a lot of people have been asking. I can, you can imagine, right, my discombobulation when I'm telling you that I'm totally short-circated. There's stuff here that my parents can't see. You shouldn't have to see, and so I'm sort of responsible for everything that's happening here.

When you walk out of your, you know, I will say again, someone corrected me by email and I appreciate the correction. I said I had to see my brother deteriorate, and I should have said I got to see him deteriorate because I'm promising you that it is a blessing to know as I sit here today that the last thing I said to him when he was coherent was I love you the last thing that he said back to me the last words I heard from him where I love you. And the last thing I did for him was feed him about love water water because you couldn't do it for yourself. And I am hugely grateful for the number of people who have tried to say things that comfort me in what has been of a really hard time. Obviously, and when you walk out of that, and you're like, okay, well, where do I send

the body and, and where does it go? And where do I keep it? And what are the details? And what do I do? Oh, man, I didn't want to do this again. I am grateful for what everything, what everyone has done. But what I wanted to ask you guys seriously as it relates to this. It is, I am feeling in many ways, right? Like I am getting exceptionally old and that time is generally short. And as people reach out and don't know what to say,

one of the places that I feel old because social media is moving very fast. And technology in the internet age embarrasses me. How often I have to ask my wife to help me with something because it's just passed me by. One of the ways that has passed me by is, I am a little bit stunned as someone who is not dealt with what I am presently dealing with, that what I've received is literally thousands of

texts and four phone calls. And I'm wondering in the disconnect of that, right? In the disconnect of it, because people don't know what to say. They figure you're overwhelmed, they figure you got enough going on, they don't wanna bother you, but they want you to know that they care about you. But that is a technological step of disconnect that I never considered.

Don't you wanna talk to me? I'd like to talk to you. I think people just don't wanna bother you. No, I think you have so much going on, you know? I had that thought yesterday. I'm talking to my dad. I was at lunch and I'm just like, what have you and he's like, I sent him along text and I was just in my mind.

I'm like, maybe like, go or like, because he's like, it's just, but I get it from my dad's perspective. It's like it's, I'm not complaining about it. I'm just legitimately confused by it as an observation because I'd feel like an asshole to complain that someone's reaching out to you, but it's sort of the bare minimum of a way to reach out to you. It's not the bare minimum, I suppose you could just post it

because you want to be around my brother's fame. Like you could just, this is how much I care virtue posting, I suppose that would be caring also possibly less or look like it anyways, but I'm legitimately appreciative about anybody caring at all. So your phone number underneath your address on the screen is what you want.

So people can directly call it on that. I don't know what we're going to do. My brother didn't write this. This is one of the many confusions I'm facing, right? Because I don't exactly want to be party planning right now and putting together guestless. My brother didn't want a funeral. My brother of course wanted people on stilts and clowns and wanted a party.

Wanted a whole new stuff. Did you want it a came art? No, Billy. Yes, Billy. Can you organize that? Can you get on it for it right now? I'm sure. No, please, I can use the help.

You know, you've got a kid now and I'm following a part. You want it, you got two kids, so yeah, you handle that. Go ahead and handle the service for me. It would take a huge weight off my mind, please. I have a question for you. Can I ask you a question? God. But let's do K-Mart.

Let's do K-Mart. My brother's service, we will have clowns instilled and we will do it. Moss Miami Billy style to remember my brother. So when people reach out to me, to reach out to you and they tell me can you give Dan a hug for me? Am I supposed to give you like 50 individual hugs? There's one hug to fight for everyone.

And then I'll just list you who it's from. Like one hug. One hug and then you whisper all the names it's from. So like I go hug you'll say that's from Liam Chapman. one hug and then you whisper all the names it's from. So like I go hug you'll see that's from Liam Chapman. Okay. Okay. Juran from 790 says he's really sorry.

Like do I do that or? Let's do it. Let's do them all. You could do them all now. You guys are the main two. I can't know what, no what. All of you, Billy, I am happy to reverse the energy on you. Please, all of you who are sending condolences,

don't do this. Do it through Billy. You deserve this. Do it through Billy so Billy can offer your condolences to me and to hug, and whatever it is you'd like Billy to do for me, because Billy, I now need you. I'm doing you person hug cameos. You prefer fruit or flowers, because I'm getting

that text a lot. In lieu of, please. I will figure that out in the coming days. One of the many sort of tensions that I have here and as I'm trying to figure out the correct thing to do on something that I never considered having to do, obviously it's not something. And the other part of it is while he was deteriorating, his amazing wife, Brenna, didn't wanna talk about that.

Like we're hopeful, you wanna hope, you don't wanna plan, you don't wanna bring into the room, the planning of a funeral, or these kinds of arrangements. So, it's hard enough to bring in an attorney on willing testimony and stuff because you gotta get your affairs in order. We told you a year ago, you got to get your affairs in order. But it still lands like a thud. And I'm genuinely torn Chris, as we sit here because a lot of people

are reaching out, hey, what can I do more than a text? And it's not just that my brother didn't want a traditional ceremony. It's going against my brother's wishes there because funerals are for the living and I know people want to pay their respects. Like so what do I do? I want to respect his wishes. I don't want to do anything traditional, but that requires planning. And I'm trying to run a company that can't air something from the marlins part

i think what david of one of the should be the top priority here but people want to pay their respects and i want and i want and i want i can text you this is yet but this is another thing this is another thing that the public would soothed being on is to be able to tell me things about my brother that i didn't know to keep his the keep his memory alive done lebert hard we like to call this one a chorus of oen wilson ready about my brother that I didn't know to keep his, to keep his memory alive. Don Lebertard. We like to call this one a chorus of Owen Wilson, ready?

Mm-hmm. Stugats. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

This is the Don Lebertard show with the Stugats. My last name is Lebertard, which is kind of a long last name. When I was in high school, we all had pages. So my code was 0837 and when you put that upside down, it's about Lebo. So that became a nickname in high school. And when I started creating our work on a broader level, that's where I started to sign my work as well. I consider myself a cartoonist.

And the way that I choose to describe my work is it's postmodern cartoon expressionist. I think on good weeks, I'd probably be in the studio about 12 hours a day, 14 hours a day. And to me, this is where I want to be the most. For years, I had my studio in my living room. And before that, when I was living with my parents, my studio was in my bedroom.

So to me, there's really no turn-off switch. And I really think that's a beautiful thing. It's a real blessing that I've been able to kind of exist in that place since I was a kid, encouraged by my parents, and can still be there. When I graduated from university with my BA in philosophy and art history and zero prospects at getting a job, it never,

it kind of made a decision that I wasn't going to have a plan B that I was going to set out to be an artist. It's a call. But I just really feel that it's an artist role in my definition to remain an individual. I mean, I started all my first paintings were sold out of the back of my car. I was doing murals on the street for three years

before I got my first big commissions and things like that. And it was definitely the road less traveled. The similarities between having designed a hull of cruise ship so a thousand foot long vehicle and taking that to a 20 foot vehicle, it's an amazing opportunity and it's an amazing creative challenge to be able to play with both of those scales. It's a piece of American history, fusing the the gift that I've had to be an artist and be creative and and produce canvases and paintings and drawings and things like that, and and really fuse it with something that I love to do and something that's a passion of mine beyond that,

which is traveling on the road. The reason I started doing the reverse plexiglass pieces was that I'd seen Alex Gaco, who works with Park West, do them on a cruise that we were on together. And the end result really interested me, so they're all pulling from different elements of history and symbology and the collective unconscious and things that we see around us all the time and something that are obscure and being able to compile all those things together and tell stories through that. But it does it in such a way that it really challenges me to have to do it in reverse.

So when I get back to doing it the other way, they really complement each other and it actually I feel like it makes me a better artist. We're looking for advice. The first thing I would say for any aspiring artists is don't go to art school Don't take out loans to go save the money. Yep. Take some business classes online Learn how to do P&L reports learn how to manage your resources as a business first and foremost and the second Which is what I started out with is discipline yourself to work every single day There you go, and if you don't want with, is discipline yourself to work every single day. There you go. And if you don't want to work that day,

you still work that day because Kung Fu means hard work. And Kung Fu is rooted in form and in discipline. And the more we can discipline ourselves as artists, and I was taught, you got to make a thousand bad pieces of art before you make your first good piece of art. So, resign yourself to making a thousand of those pieces of art. And work every day to get

there as quickly and mindfully as you can. It is now time to chat with my favorite more talented son, Libel. Aside from being a world famous artist, he has also never willingly attended the sporting event. Let's just leave us forced knowledge. Davos Swinney, what does he do for a living? Davos Swinney. Wow. The Catholic or Nigerian distance runner. Which month does the men's college basketball tournament take

place in in the summer? Sometimes they're in a summer. No month, no month. July. July, man. Please, gentlemen. And now it's time for Libos, my Finter. My Finter. Will you trade five years of being a world class athlete, competing internationally, if it would in your life by one year

yeah i think i don't know absolutely i think i would do that the problem at all i mean i'd like to think about it uh... but i think that was would be really fun five years how good i might as a world-class athlete like i could you play year-round every four to you can play and you'd be in the top five percent of that sport. Yeah, that'd be a lot of fun. That'd be great.

Yeah. I'd fun years and then I'd just trade, you know, something in my 90s. I'd just trade one of those awful years in the 90s, right? In my 90s, right? Yeah, in my 90s. In my 90s. In my 90s, right? Yeah.

In my 90s. In my 90seties I would trade My family doesn't really understand what they do My father and my mother the worst horse fans in the world my brother doesn't care. I'm very alone Can you name a professional football coach a single one? Currently coaching not don't you look because you saw him on 7-Eleven cups when I was growing up Can you name a professional football coach? A single one, currently coaching, not Don Trulla, because you saw him on 7-Eleven cups when I was growing up. Mmm, current football coach.

Peter Jackson? That's what the guys that's totally made up name. Leave you directly to Lord of the Rings. Jack, the guy that used to fill Jackson. He moved to football, I thought maybe he moved to the use to do the pulls. All right, very good. Leave away, that's Jackson. Where you go? The Phil Jackson, that you moving to football? I thought maybe you moved to the use to do the pulls. All right, very good. Leave a white line.

That's right. That's where you go. The Phil Jackson, that's right. I don't know anything about art either. So we're even. I don't have an art show that I can ask you questions. You can make a poem. Right, right.

That's the difference. Right, right. What would some of those questions be? Like, give me a, we should do that. We should do some of that. Like, I heard it. Yeah, it's like some basic stuff. Well, we'll give you the support. Some of those questions be like give me a we should do that Basic Who's never willingly attended a museum All right, let's play the game with with my brother here. We're painted Gwernicka

What we painted the painting Gwernicka Picasso there you go I feel like he's gonna do it. I feel like you got to just gonna go. That's gonna be all the answers. They're gonna be Picasso and Van Gogh. What about what art movement was formed around the idea of dreaming and dream, especially Freudian psychology?

Picasso, there you go. No. Serialism. Serialism. I feel like that's a less fun show. I'm boring. Not knowing why there's not any art radio. Art talk radio. Music questions.

Years ago when my brother was in college, I'm four years younger. I was looking through his music collection. He's tape collection He had Paula Abdul and and Lionel Richie dancing on the ceiling was in there Yeah, you may find a me stilt won't clearly still makes fun of me that so I don't feel like my brother knows a lot I also had two live crew the clean version That's the only one who had two Clean version so this is the point. Well the sheriffs and they went to the Supreme Court

You couldn't even get the naughty version back then you couldn't you couldn't get people were getting arrested All right, so what do you got now? So these are all music music related questions name three Beatles songs I love the Beatles I but I can get three Beatles songs. It's just I'm under pressure Under pressure was actually by Queen and David Bowie. Yeah, yeah, funny Mercury. What's up, hell, Peter? No, no, no, no, I'm trying to, I can't wait to know.

No, I said I'm choking. I saw the entire, I want to see the Beatles love performance in Las Vegas and I know their songs. You could've done that, I believe. I think there was tears that performed. This is actually a choke, choke, choke job. All right, love me, do. Okay. I don't know if that's. This is actually a joke, joke job. All right, love me do. Okay.

I don't know if that's the title of it, though is it actually the title of it? I know so many Beatles songs. This is just, Chi Chi Rodriguez is not one of those songs. Yeah, this is just me actively choking. Yeah, I don't, I mean. Well, love me do is one, you're good.

That's one. Hey Jude would be, I think most people's obvious one help help That's all right. We're gonna go on all of them. Well name the two hosts of yo MTV wraps The both of the hosts. Oh, man, I'm forgetting these guys. They were subtle for one at this point I Know what they look like okay back cows right in your mind What was the name of the first song played on MTV and who performed it? Video killed the radio star

But who performed the band is pretty tough. Yeah, that's pretty good that you name the thing is the bugles now Or the boggle bugle yeah, bugles and oh wait a minute fact Chris What kind of opinion do you have on on Stoog? The know it all who hasn't actually had to say anything For you he's just throwing in his little like one liner that I would hate doesn't prove that he knows anything They still got your ass right no Stugat was right Now what if you had to eat a beetle a cockroach or a giant locust all right? He'll end up great game. That's it. It's done

Two God's in his all three. Can I pick all three? He's leaving now. Libaward.com. Thank you. He is my brother. Check it out Pay that man. He's money All right, you guys are ready now. My brother, my brother has had some very funny responses. Yes. Over the years, but none funnier than who's the shortstop to the New York Yankees. I know this one.

I know this one. Eric Jeter. Ha, ha, ha. So, so close. Yes, so close. Name a Golden State Warrior. Can even begin to. A golden state warrior.

Golden states. First name, I know it's absolutely not, it's Larry Bird. That's right. I'm sorry. I was a copy of that. I know it's a guy. What is the name that insulted a woman who was a journalist and was sexist? What is the name of the person

at the center of that controversy? I'm just going to go with averages and go with Donald Trump. And that's like Desperne in the crowd. He was not involved in this one. No, no, no. I don't know. Does the symbol K mean in baseball? Home run. That's the opposite. Knock it out. Knock it out. Knock it out.

My brother just muttered under his breath, boom, radio gold, enjoy that. Pointed it everybody. Pointed it codey specifically is if you don't know what radio gold is, Cody, you didn't say anything. Lima was better at this thing. He was air drumming and tapping his homie's auto-ice floor.

Roy is wearing barely nothing right now on ESPNU. I dare say he is the least closed person in the history of the Disney Empire. And it's also happier than I've seen him look in about a decade. He has been smiling. He was very pleased to take off his clothes. He had no issues. I, Sarah Spain threatened him and he had no issues with this.

And now my brother has arrived to, has arrived to do an artist's rendering of Roy very expensively, Sarah Spain, this really backfired on Sarah Spain. Roy is rep, man. Well, this is not comforting news that I'm about to share my little brother, my only sibling. My closest family member and a very small family that's very close, responsible for all the art around here and my best friend for 50 years. Past the way last night, I've spent the last year saying all the things, getting a chance to appreciate him and say goodbye and ask for forgiveness for the family stuff and and pour out my heart to him and I will tell you that there was grace and freedom at two o'clock in the morning to be in his ear physically mouth to his ear, telling him that it was okay to go, that he was safe, that he didn't have a

reasonably scared, and to see him stop suffering, and to see him peaceful. was the seismic and great beauty that all forever be grateful for. Don Lebatard, Kenzley Janssen. I gotta be careful here. Well, not just either. Let me start again. Stugats is the closer. Comes in, ninth inning. Closes the game app. His name is Kenley Janssen.

He has blamed his recent... Hahahaha! DCC Don Lebatard show with his two gods. That looks like a champion is what it looks like to me. I can't. It sounds like a champion. This man is a bad, bad man who I am told is also a nice, nice man. I don't, Joe Tessitore says of the Walter Wade champion. I think he's unique compared to any pro athlete I'm around. There are those who are natural born badasses.

There are guys who are just nasty people who are in the hurt business. Terrence, to me, has the ability to be humane, wonderful, civil, doting father, loving family man, and a loyal friend. He was not humane, wonderful, civil, doting father to Errol Spence. He was not loving family man to Errol Spence. He was not loyal friend to Errol Spence. Congratulations, champ, that you were an uncommon badass on Saturday night. And the part about it that was amazing to me is that business you're in isn't as easy as you make it

look. It can't be that easy. you're in isn't as easy as you make it look, it can't be that easy. Oh, it's definitely, it's definitely not that easy. You know, I mean, I always tell people that the when it happens and training, one might say, oh, that fight was easy, but when you look at the amount of training that goes into a fight, then you then you see how hard that fight really was. Terrence, are you driving? Yeah, what's more difficult?

Boxing or zooming while you're driving? Boxing is definitely more difficult, you know. I think, you know, driving is easy. No, but Terrence, you're breaking the law right now. We're pretty clear on the fact that I don't think you're allowed to do what you're doing right now. You're driving in a vehicle that can kill people while... I'm done.

He's done, he's done. I'm done. He got to the destination. How could you see belt as well? He lacks everybody. I didn't mean to lecture you about it. We were just scared for you. We don't want anything to happen to you.

You're undefeated. You're thirty one and oh you got to take care of yourself that's a fact I appreciate it you know I just you know I was almost to my destination so I appreciate well you during during the fight I've only seen Floyd Mayweather do this because you say it's not easy but Floyd Mayweather while he was fighting someone, was talking to the ringside commentators who were talking about the Super Bowl, and he was giving his Super Bowl analysis while fighting. You haven't even finished the Spence fight, and you're already yelling at Jermel Charlo,

hey, your next. He's still wobbly in the corner, and you already know you're done with the fight. What was going on there? Nothing. I was just in the moment. You know, I was in the moment and it was one thing that I said before the fight happened. I said, each and every one of you guys is going to witness greatness. And when I kept saying that a lot of people laughed, a lot of people thought that I was just talking on my ass and I felt Saturday night. Everybody witnessed greatness just like I said they would. But when you come out for a fight, you're locked in at what point do you start to notice

who's in the crowd? Is it after the fight is done? Is it in the middle of fight? Is it before you come out? When do you notice, Charles Lowe's here, oh, fat Joe's there, oh Steven A Smith, is it when you start noticing the faces in the crowd? Well, if they not right there in front of me,

then I really don't notice them. You know, when I was coming up the ring and I got in the ring, me and Charles locked eyes. And I seen Lil Wayne in my corner, you know, so already knew he was right there. So I seen Floyd on the other side. So me and Floyd locked eyes. So, you know, those are just a few guys that, you know, from the jump that I locked eyes with it was like oh okay but are you as good as Floyd Mayweather? Huh?

I can't. I can't you ask me that question. Why can't I ask you that question? I'm as good as anybody that ever laced up a pair of boxing gloves. That's why. I mean no insult to you. Floyd Mayweather's the best I've ever seen pound for pound. Did it in the fight business in a way that was amazing? A little more boring than you figured out the fight business in no one can hit me. I'm better at defense than you are. So to call

you as good as him is the highest compliment I could give, is it not? No, there's a lot of fighters that's great. You know, Floyd is great, but you got a lot of fighters that came before Floyd. That was great also. You know, so I never want to disrespect those fighters that came before me, that paved the way for Tans Crawford. So I always pay homage to all the greats that came before me, that paved the way for Tans Crawford. So I always pay homage to all the greats that came before me, but myself, I'm great as well. So you gotta put me in those categories

and you gotta put me with those names as well. But I know you said earlier that boxing isn't easy. There's a lot of training, a lot of preparation that goes in before every fight. But are you ever surprised by how easy the fight goes? So for instance, for Spence, because the Vegas money and everyone was kind of 50, 50 split right, we all thought it was going to be a great fight. But I think a lot of people walked away like, oh, he beat his ass. Like he did it and it didn't, he didn't look like he broke a sweat. So are you

ever surprised at, oh, that went easier than I thought? No, like, like I said, I never thought the fight was going to be easy. That's why I train so hard. I don't still don't believe the fight was easy. It may look like that because of my skills and my talent, but at the same time, it's never easy in there. You know, that's all skill, that's all, you know, things that we practice and train to camp. So it all just came out on that one night. No, I know it's not easy. I'm just saying like, did you expect it to be harder than what it was? When you say it harder, like, what do you like? Did you expect it to be a decision

like before you started the fight? The thing that you're saying to us and that I understand is because you have to spend the entire fight knowing that one punch makes you finished with all your training. None of that can be easy. That kind of focus. So you can't be quite so confident that you disrespect your sport is what you're saying. Yeah, all that, all that. Yeah. For sure. Can you explain to us how it is that you became this kind of boxer? What is the imprinting in your childhood, in your upbringing that made you someone who wants to be great at this? Oh, man, I want to be great in everything I do. Not just boxing.

You know, if anybody, no chance Crawford, they'll tell you how competitive I am and anything. It doesn't matter what it is, no matter what we're doing, I want to win. So I'm not going to do something that I don't want to be the very best at. So if we plan rocks or cards or whatever, I want to win and I want to let you know that I'm the best. You know, so that's just my demeanor.

How do you play rocks? How do you play rocks? I don't know. I just threw that out there. Has your life changed very much in the last couple of days? What has your life been like the last couple of days? My life is the same. It wouldn't matter if I'd been Muhammad Ali

or anybody, God rest his soul. My life would still be the same. Yeah, I got a lot of more new followers. Yeah, more people believe in me. A lot of people want interviews, but it's always like that after one of my big fights. And I just take it how it is. I take it day by day. I spend a lot of time with my family, my kids, my children. And I just keep doing the same things that got me here. And that's what keep me level headed. But who's someone that you're surprised

as a fan of you, who's come out like of, you know, you know, another athlete? Amen. Of real? That was that surprise that shit out. And he's like, that was that was so fucking dope. I was just like, wow, he was like, man, I've been a big fan of you for a long time now.

And I never knew M&M used to train boxing, you know, and Detroit with a man you're stored. You know, I never knew that. I'm like, bang, there's do really no boxing like, you know, that surprised me. And I was just like, bang, I was kind of blowing away. He had never walked anybody out before I don't think. Can you tell us the start of that and what it is? Take us through. If you're sitting there sort of odd,

it's the first smile you've cracked, you're the champion and you're like, oh, meeting M&M was really cool. How did it come to be that he was walking you out? Yeah, man, I was just thinking about, you know what songs that I come out to, you know, and I always tell everybody, you know, in my camp, I want to feel the song. I want the song to have meaning to that particular fight. So when that came about, I was confused

on what song that I wanted to come out to. Can you tell me, can you forgive me for a second here, but because when I asked you the question, I was, I don't know how you became a boxer. When I was talking, I know you wanna be great at everything, but I was asking you, this is a very specific business, choosing it can be somewhat crazy, fighting other men for money. Oftentimes, you have to not have other options. It's not just because you love

boxing. The options can be limited for men to choose to fight other men for money. How did you become a boxer? What is the story of your journey? Well, like you said, my options was very limited. That was definitely one of them I would I started boxing at a young age. I started at seven years old. So, you know, I've been doing this boxing stuff for a long time. I took some time off from boxing and start playing other sports and whatnot, but I came back in 2002. But boxing was something that, you know, I started because I was bad.

I was always fighting, you know, I was always getting in trouble and the owner of the CW Youth Resource Center, he lives right behind me. I didn't know that my dad and my uncles used to box for this man and he stopped me one day and approached me and asked me if I was interested in boxing and came to my house, talked to my mom, their mom, all greeting them and whatnot. At that time, I started boxing, but I always say boxing shows me, I never chose boxing. I just love the fight. So boxing shows me, I just loved the fight. So boxing chose me. I just love to compete. Explain the first part to me though. Love to fight when you were bad. Why were

you bad and what did those fights look like? Like how did you become someone who was bad before you even got rained into boxing? Because I was in I was in a hood. You know, when you look at, when you look at the playing field, you know, you in the ghetto, I ain't got nothing to do but, you know, fight each other and be friends. I didn't fall my friends, probably, you know, two times a week, we are fighting. And then we would be back friends, you know, let's go play basketball, let's go play football, let's go around the corner and walk to the store and get some candy or something like that. But, you know, yeah, we always just fight, you know, so that was something that I was used to doing.

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Look at his face. I definitely, I definitely wasn't bullying people. You know, I had a couple of people that was trying to bully me. And they was older and bigger than me. I used to get my sisters and my cousin on them with type of guys. And, you know, yeah, man, I used to get messed with too. People used to, hey, look, you know what I mean? They used to pick on me too all the time.

You know, and those guys that, you know what I mean? I couldn't beat up or I couldn't win. Me and my sister jumped them. So we go in. We go in, you know, so that's just how I went and I don't want to. And you, when you say you were bad, were you getting into a lot of trouble or you just liked and knew you were good at fighting and therefore you were bad, you were just a bad ass from a very early age both. I was both, but I was good at not getting caught You know, so I was bad and everybody knew I was bad and you know

Yeah, but far as getting in trouble. I was Was getting a little trouble, but I was I was real good at not getting in trouble I was getting a little trouble, but I was I was real good at not getting the trouble Stand away from getting the trouble. Why wouldn't you having arrived at your dreams or something that I would imagine look like your dreams Why wouldn't you get fat with fame and money because you've already arrived at greatness? Because I know how easy you got I could take it away, you know This sport is for a short time, not a long time. You know, and if you get too high on your higher horse and lose focus, it all can be gone the next day. And then, you know, what you're going to do when your career is over with, and they're not changing your name, and everybody, everybody gone, and nobody is there to change you on. So then, then where you're going to be at,

then how are you going to be? How are you doing people on treatment? If you don't treat them like humans, if you walk around like you're just the baddest person on the earth and you don't bleed like them, then how are you, how are people going to view you? So I just always, you know, took that and consideration and took that to our. But the connection is a little faulty. I assume Billy Gill is screwing with the wiring back there. We didn't hear you great there, but we do appreciate your time. And congratulations on your success. It's a pleasure watching you work. Yes, I mean, we didn't even ask them about Aaron Rodgers leaving the pack. Yeah, you're right. Are you mad at Aaron Rodgers or you mad at the Packers? I'm at that both to be honest, you know, Aaron Rodgers, you know, I mean, he stayed there

for a long time and try to make things work and he needed, he needed help. And Green Bay wasn't giving them the help that, you know, he, he wanted. So he decided to leave. Yeah, I'm disappointed that he left. I wish he would have stayed to be able to retire with us, but it's a business and it is what it is. He got to do what's best for him. But you seem totally indifferent about it. I was told you're a big packers fan and you're like,

yeah, whatever it's business exports. I've got perspective. I don't care all that much. Just be careful. Yeah, because I know how it is. You got these, you got these, these, these teams that's billionaires, you know, and they can't get you the tools you need to win the championship.

So, you know, they just use you up until they can't use you no more than they throw you, throw you to the curve. So he got to do what he got to do for him and this family as well. Do you have any opinions before we get you out of here on the way that boxing is gone? Where there are very rarely fights like the one that you had that people everyone is watching. It's gone to Tyson Fury's going to fight in Ghanu. We got Jake Paul this weekend is going on ESPN plus because he's fighting Nate Diaz. It's the freak show.

It's the circus instead of boxing. It's brands. How do you feel about the way the sport is going? Given how much you love the the the sport? Well, everything is evolving, you know, time is changing, you know, and people got to change with time, you know, Jake Paul is is a real boxer now. I don't I don't view him as nothing other than a real boxer. He trained his ass off. He fight his ass off he he got some skills and We can't we can't look at him as just a youtuber no more because

He showed that with with the fights then he used one and he's looks spectacular spectacular right now and his last fight, yeah, he didn't win but at the same time, Jake has been training for a long time now and he can be some fighters, you know, so we can't say that he's not a fighter no more and I think it's good for boxing because it's a more light on the sport of boxing where the light has been altered to other sports in a few last decades. You like that he's pioneering. You're not like him. He respects him. He respects him.

And you realize you're giving him more praises of fighter than he has ever received from anybody with your credentials. No, I just, you know, at first I didn't like it, you know, but I got to look at the big picture, you know, at first I was just like, is this respectful for a fighter to be training and fighting his whole life to get to where he at right now and then to watch somebody that never had a fight before, ever in his life come to my sport that I love and cherish and adore and make millions of dollars and I'm sitting over here. I can't make, I can't make 20,000. So, you know, yeah, I felt it was disrespectful in that sense, but you know, Jake Paul putting the asses in the seats and they they they following them. So he deserved to make what he

makes. What's next for you that you're most excited about? Like when you think of conquering, what are the next few years of your career look like? I don't know. I don't know. I'm taking a day by day. I don't know. I don't know. I'm taking a day by day. I don't know. I don't know.

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That's a pain. You're that year. You don't seem like that. That was a Chris Cody of the day moment. There were a whole lot of people who were watching on Saturday night because you brought and not a lot of people are doing this anymore. You brought eyes to a welter weight fight. It felt like a giant fight and it feels like you're a bit tired and just sort of shrugging

your shoulders. Yeah, this is what my life is. This is what I deserve. I've been working for this all my life. Yeah, I've been deserved this. You know, I just wasn't given an opportunity to be where I am right now. You know, and yeah, I'm disappointed at times, but at the same time, you know, I always say, God don't make no mistakes and everything happened for

a reason. And my moment is right now and I'm enjoying it, I'm cherishing it, and I'm living in that moment right now. That's all that matters is that we got here. I'm curious what you think of sports coverage in general as Stephen A Smith was saying, and this is controversial. It's also the extremity of the hot take that spends should consider retirement because of what you did to him because he lost to an all-time great and he lost his first fight, he should retire. No, he's not saying it because of how he lost to me.

He's saying it because of all the things that spin's man through, you know, the car accident, the red and tear, and on top of that, you know, our fight. That's why he was saying, Spin should consider retirement because his body has been through a lot. And the punishment that he took, you know, on fight night, the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of

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the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of and you can leave damage in the sport of boxing that you can't you know overcome. You felt like you damaged spence correct? I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say I felt like I damaged the spence but I know for a fact that he didn't leave

the ring like he came in the ring and you know that's part of the sport. Yeah, can you explain to me what you regard as the greatest challenge of your career? The greatest challenge in my career was getting the biggest fights that was possible. That was the biggest challenge. There's a lot of insects in that car. You didn't get that fly. Yeah, one of the fly. You didn't get that fly. That's more or more down a little bit than they'll just fly out. Yeah, I'm like, man, it's monkey. That's one.

I imagine he's got his hand so quick, he could just catch a fly though. Yeah, evidently not. Let him fly my catcher for you just. You say that. That was Billy Gil behind me, by the way, I just want that stated. Now you got me looking for the fly. Look. Now you made him a killer. I got, I didn't mean challenge. Generally, I meant the fighter who is most challenged you. The fighter that most challenged me probably was Gambua. He was an Olympic gold medalist,

multi-weight world champion, and he was just tremendous talented, fast, explosive, smart, you know, and at that point of time in my career, it was a difficult fight. Do you regard as anyone as easier than you thought they would be, even though you're saying you've said already, none of this is easy. I know none of them is easy but someone who surprised you. Someone who surprised you. They are hard. I got it.

All right, get out of here. Thank you. All right, I got it. Thank you. Because you made it look easy. Sorry to badger you about that. Thank you. And congratulations.

It was nice seeing you. I appreciate it. Thank you. Billy is so scared, right? Dude, I was scared. I'll be a Billy said man. So scared. I was scared. I appreciate it. That's it. Billy is so scared, right? Dude, I was scared. I was scared. I was scared for Billy, man.

Billy said it and then just ducked.