The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Valerie Issues a Statement

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

The crew discusses Shams Charania's report on Jimmy Butler's injury before finally giving Jeremy the platform for his Top 5 Reasons the Heat Lost (with a mini Top 5 Reason to Hate the French in the middle of it). Then, Stugotz goes after Bob Kraft and Valerie issues a statement on the cupcake debacle. Plus, Adnan Virk is here to discuss Brian Cox's wild statements, the Steve Martin doc, and deliver his Top 5 Mystery Movies without David Samson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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at no extra cost, with Monaris. Start today. Visit rbc.com forward slash your business. Register, bank, and grow your business, only with RBC. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants

just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar. The Shams report, because there are some details in here that we did not talk about, it's not just the expectation

that Miami's Jimmy Butler will be out multiple weeks, according to sources. Shams is saying that he played the final three quarters with what is now feared to be an MCL injury. So go ahead and put up on the screen the horrified look of Alonzo Mourning and Pat Riley as they saw Jimmy Butler go down before the playoffs and they gasped and all the other people around them are still,

you know, the Sixer fans, they're still buoyant and they'll forever remember Caleb Martin for turning that game around by missing two free throws and getting free chicken for everybody. Got the crowd into the game, Dan. He did. What are they, were the heat up by 11 at that point? It was either 11 or nine, I'll go look specifically.

They were up 11. They were up and Caleb Martin missed two free throws and everything after that was all glorious Nicholas. Uncle Mo, momentum shifter right there, Dano. On the fried chicken. Yes. Clearly on the fried chicken. Great promotion, great timing. They were up 11. Yeah that

Seven minutes left in the third And if it'll point in the game again a minute left you're tied on the road and back court violation I mean Caleb finally gave that crowd something to cheer about They were booing as you stated stated, in the first quarter. Why? Because Philadelphia, that's why. But then Caleb Martin finally gave them some positive news. Free chicken. Who doesn't love free chicken?

I'd like to just revisit with the group for just a second. Vegans and vegetarians. And anybody who cares about how chickens are generally treated and processed. And it was Chick-fil-A sponsoring, so it's a whole other element. But I do just simply want to put in front of everybody how fragile a state you're in organizationally

when you're known for having your best player only because you famously lost on purpose to collect a bunch of first round picks, none of whom panned out, some of whom flamed out, multiple first round picks flame out with mental short-circuiting, Markel Foltz and Ben Simmons. Multiple first round picks, the one you have still standing from your collection

of just being terrible for a long time, so terrible that the league had to step in and remove your general manager and put a Colangelo in. So that you could get to the expectations of where you were when Dr. J and Allen Iverson played there in a town that's so hostile that in the first quarter your home fans are

blowing you because you are playing so terrible throwing the ball away again and again and jimmy butler's got five steels but but but but because you're playing so sloppy as to god stills you how well kyle lowry played. He did. Stugats, you were not, you could not have been watching Kyle Lowry. Kyle Lowry gave every Heat fan the reminder of that's why he's not with us anymore and

that's why I didn't like that he was here at the end. Plus one, one point game. That's why he's one of the most unpopular players in Heat history and one of the worst signings in Heat history. That was supposed to be a big four that was playing in Miami, and everyone immediately turned on Kyle Lowry. But the greater point I'm making to you is that everyone wants to think that the Boston Celtics,

that their only fatal flaw is that they're emotionally fragile, that they have mental weakness. Charles Barkley will say it, this organization has that. This organization was ready to crumble last night and then Free Chicken arrived. Yep, Chick-fil-A. And it made everything better.

It's an actual nightmare. Like the idea that Chick-fil-A is what did this is just, it's unfathomable. Doing the Lord's work. The idea that Chick-fil-A is what did this, is just, it's unfathomable. Doing the Lord's work. Oh my God. Caleb Martin is the person who did this. I mean, blame him. You want someone to blame today, blame Caleb.

It's a long list. I prefer to blame Chick-fil-A. It's a long list. Go ahead and just keep in the corner for me, please, of the screen, just the look of Zoe and Pat Riley on behalf of the entirety of the fan base. I think the greatest facial look that we've played in the last hour is Billy's,

followed by Jess's, followed by Elise's, in terms of just facial despair, being able to read what somebody's face is saying without a word being exchanged, we have had a party of great facial features. I am now ready, Jeremy, for your top five reasons that the Miami Heat lost last night.

All right, OLI, the non-call on the back court violation. It's gotta be on there. It's OLI. It's not top basketball though, like it's gonna be a physical game. It's gonna come out on the two minutes. Jeremy and I are not sitting here saying that's why they lost.

Why it's OLI. But it was a bad call. Like can we just all agree, it could have been called better that play. I would not agree with that. In the last minute of games, I would like the players to be allowed to play and don't be so sloppy near the half court line.

You don't allow a player to be in a position to push you into losing. Can we make some sort of wager if it's on the two minute report or not? Sure. If they admit that it was a no call. Anytime that's by the baseline, they call that foul. They call that foul. The half court line is a baseline

Kelly ubre had the same defense against Tyler here We went to the to the sideline and then got bailed out with that call like they were not gonna call it again number five BAM's two early fouls It changed the whole game. Bam Edibayo has historically defended Joel Embiid actually pretty well despite giving up the size advantage and not being able to go one on one, exposing the zone that actually worked earlier

and earlier in the game than they wanted to deploy it is kind of what messed everything up with the rotation. Yeah, so we can blame this entire game on Tony brothers then. Be clear on something I am saying about Bam and Joel Embiid. Bam defends everyone well and no one defends Joel Embiid well. There is no such thing. So Joel Embiid gets whatever he wants against everybody but Bam is one of the best defenders in the league and I would say that In terms of guys and you can look this up for me who give BAMS

Problems without having looked up the numbers Jokic and Embiid would be the physical types I would imagine that would be able to get him into foul trouble Jeremy you say that but they were up 12 at half But that so we're up 12 at here is a difference though in the full length of the game, right? Because that zone defense with that array of players helped to shut things down. But by playing that zone defense for such a huge chunk of the first half, it gave Nick Nurse an opportunity

to adjust, put Joellen Beatt at the top of the key, and not have that as sort of a secret weapon you could bring out in the second half from having played bam one on one against Joellen Beatt as much as he did. The Heat don't have an overwhelming offense, so the way that they get by is with their defense, and by having to use that zone as early as they did

with as deep as they had to go in the rotation, that's what kinda messed things up long term. Number four, no Terry Rozier or Duncan Robinson. Tyler Hale had to take 27 shots. He was the entire offense for them late in the game. That worked out. Tyler's a great player in the final few minutes Of the game, but he was so inefficient at the beginning Jimmy Butler being hurt

Which will get to obviously made it so that now not only were you without playoff Jimmy you're without Terry I like you to be more fish without Duncan Robinson. I'd like you to be short it up number three the French And guess what that gives us time for a mini top five inside this top five. Number five Reasons to hate the French number five Jean Valjean was given 19 years in prison for stealing bread. Sounds like someone I know Number four they can eat nothing but brie and bread and are still in better shape than the rest of us Number three Boris Diao Number two they have more sex than anyone.

137 times a year, I mean, f*** that. And number one, Nick Patum. Boris Diao isn't hated? What he did to the Heat. Beloved. Get him out of here. He's a roly poly heavy basketball player. Those are always allowed to be beloved no matter what they do to your favorite team.

Number two, Jimmy Butler's injury Yeah, we're back to reasons the who's John Voljohn 137 times two four six oh one I put into it put it on the pole please at LeBata show what have sex 137 times a year No, I could not do that how many Sundays other than a year put it on the pole rusty at lebatard show what have sex 137 times a year no I could not do that how many Sundays other than a year put it on the pole rusty at lebatard show so's your penis at lebatard show hey do the French eat nothing but brie and are in better shape than us yes or no? That's the cigarettes. I must be French, Tony, fist me.

And number one. Fist me. Free chicken. Look, I consider myself to be a pretty great ally to the LGBTQ community. I hate Chick-fil-A more today than I ever have. Speaking of which, I see now that emeritus is, NBA refs are gonna have to wear the emeritus... Emirates? Emirates,

excuse me, advertising even though Dubai and that region of the country or that region of the world is less friendly there than any. That's a bad spot for your LBGT referees to be in, when to most progressive leagues where they have to wear that as advertising. Stugatz, are you watching how much coverage is going out on the story that inside Bill Belichick's failed job hunt that ESPN is doing.

Yeah, it's crazy because, well first off, Belichick, who's now gonna do McAfee, and he's gonna join him for the draft, and Billy and I have a draft party, and we're not certain what to do now, because they have Belichick, and I'm thinking we get Steve Belichick. I don't know what to do. I'm worried about that.

You're worried. Well, McAfee's draft party every year is like 500,000 people are watching. So you're competing against that draft party, which is going to have Bill Belichick signed on to do stuff and you don't know what you're going to do as your counter programmer. I'd like to do our draft party if possible, Dan. maybe we can look into this here at Metalork at McAfee's draft party. I want to be inside his draft party doing our draft party but anyway back to Belichick. But you'll be in Michigan. That's a good point. We're also efforting to have Brady on ours. Really? Okay. Tom? Yeah we didn't specify. We're efforting. A Brady. A Tom Brady. I'm assuming. Love a good effort. Robert Kraft should be ashamed of himself. I'm serious. I mean the way he is smearing Bill Belichick after he left New

England with that documentary with this report, another deep dive by Seth Wickersham, he should be ashamed of himself. Bill Belichick has raised the value of his franchise exponentially. He has won him six Super Bowls. He has made that lousy organization one of the marquee organizations in the NFL. And I don't understand what Robert Kraft is doing calling Arthur Blank, and he should be ashamed of himself as well, because Arthur Blank, make your own decisions. What the hell are you doing? You're going to let Bob Kraft impact who you're gonna hire at head coach? Get

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They were wrong. They were, are they going to lose their job? No. Are they going to get a cutting pay? No. What are they going to do? Keep predicting what is the obvious. They are going to say, oh, the Nuggets are going to win.

Oh, Denver, the altitude. And you know what? The Heat are going to win it all. This is the Don LeVatar Show with with the StuGats who took the cupcakes Elise is insane with rage right now the cupcakes were clearly stolen security is gonna be summoned. Alisa said seven times that she left the cupcakes over there. And now we have a thief in our midst. And Frankie's going to go to security and find out who stole the guava f***ing gluten-free cupcake.

If any if any of you are made to feel better by the fact that now I've gotten reports that it was indeed several screams from Elise in the other room, she screams at me that way too, so don't feel too bad about that. Are you telling me not to feel bad that I got screamed at? I'm just telling you that she also screams at me that way and I didn't steal my wife's cupcakes. She's scrappy, huh?

Scrappy. My wife has written here something, just for clarification purposes. Ooh, a statement. I don't know if it's a statement. It's a statement if it was written. Well, what is it? An update?

I mean, statement? Well, I don't know. I wasn't trying to classify. I was just saying that she had written something and then it became a statement. She just sent the text. I mean, that's it. It's an official statement. It's mean, statement. Well, I don't know. I wasn't trying to classify. I was just saying that she had written something and then it became a statement. You just sent the text? I mean, that's it. It's an official statement.

It's discovery, Dan. We gotta see it. Is this an affidavit or? Seems like evidence of some sort. I'm just saying that she's written something here. Tony's still on the case. Tony. No, I've moved from detective to lawyer now,

so I'm just trying to make sure that my clients are already set up. It's a great character. The detective who still tries to solve the case after the confession Is is there's a lot of false confessions out there Dan. I don't know if you know that or not This is Matt Locklear riddled with false confessions prisons are a lawyer of the slow report It's not a false confession For the record okay the cupcakes I got

weren't the cupcakes I wanted. I wanted the guava. Jessica ate the guava. One guava. And she says the only reason you guys had cupcakes is because three days early, I had the idea to get everybody cupcakes, huh? How do you feel Jess feel good about yourself, I mean I feel fine

She could have had the other cupcake yeah, I would have offered the I would have said oh my I'm so sorry I ate one cupcake. Here's the other cupcake. Valerie can still have her guava cupcake. But I was too busy getting screamed at, so there was no resolution. Well, she screams at Dan, too. Yes, and I feel like you were too busy with your mouth full of cupcake, I believe. Cupcake was long gone by the time this all happened.

They were delicious. The cupcake was, I mean. How was it, by the way? It was good? It wasn't that good. I'm not gonna lie. Wow! I mean, it's gluten-free and vegan. How good can it by the way was good. It wasn't that good. I'm not Free and vegan how good can it be?

It was fine. It was a sad cupcake. I I've got two here. Then I don't know what these are. I don't know if you want to bring these home Maybe I can't other cupcakes and they have a hint of guava to them, but they don't have the coloring of guava So I don't know 100% do they say gluten-free on them? Yeah, they say gluten-free. That's about it. Oh, Jeremy's saying that all the cupcakes in this building yesterday were gluten-free. Yeah, we went over this in the local hour. There were other gluten-free cupcakes.

Just the flavoring is what got Jess screamed at. That's right, because the guava was stolen. I want to continue the conversation. It's still stealing. Yes, but she could have still had a cupcake, but I was being screamed at, so I just went, I want to continue the conversation. It's still stealing. Yes, but she could have still had a cupcake, but I was being screamed at, so I just went, okay, I'm gonna go back in the studio,

defuse the situation, leave the room. And here the situation still is, lingering like a bed smell in a bathroom. Well, your fault, because you stole something. You started the segment with a statement. But you stole something. We could have moved on to something else. The starting point on all of this is the thievery that's where it all started Jess's defense Valerie ordered

the cupcake she could have said hey set six aside for me with my name on them I mean I don't want to get in trouble because you have because you have thieves there you sets yeah she could have done all of that you're right as the the Thursday morning quarterback or she could have just had her assistant put it in the space where her assistant always said so that nobody Would steal food that's not theirs right so who are we blaming here? Well? It's Jess. Jess is the criminal whose assistant is she? If you say hers, but yours who's Criminal here there are no other criminals there was one thing stolen only one

But there was something stolen. But I want to circle back around on what Bob Kraft is trying to steal after the fact from Bill Belichick because what is happening now is a whole lot of players are coming forth and defending the honor of Bill Belichick. They know how hard it is to win stuff like this in that league and to be that kind of dominant and I think that they have an appreciation for the fact that he did it in a disciplined way that was kind of joyless but was obviously successful and I think people lose sight of the fact sometimes because we're talking about this one all the time Stu got the people who watch football always want the player to have the kind of boss that they themselves would not

want to have it seems like Bill Belichick made even winning miserable it seemed like everything around there was very joyless and so you accept when they won and pat Riley's talked about the fact there's winning and there's misery if you're this obsessive compulsive about something like this if You're this crazy about it Sometimes clay Thompson gave voice to this recently when you're climbing up the mountain you forget to have the joyous moments along the climb Because you're always so busy making sure no one's catching up to you you're always terrified when there are other competing people that someone else is doing the dick things the mean things the discipline things that you're not doing

especially in that sport where it's been assumed forever that the muscle needs leading the muscle that all of those muscular bodies need the discipline of a thousand coaches on the sidelines to get their strength right their nutrition right their off-field habits right all of it right and it's oppressive they were better at it than anybody they were darker at it the dark arts they were better at them than anybody and now bill Belichick is looking for a job though and after giving Bob Kraft 20 years of success in that relationship, he's giving honest answers when fellow owners are asking

him questions, and the reporting on Wickersham and Vanada is basically, and Jeremy Fowler is basically, that Kraft is bleep blocking Belichick, like keeping him from getting other jobs, telling Arthur Blank, you can't trust Belichick. And when the partnership is between owner and coach that way, and you're only getting this sliver of reporting, what you're not getting is Kraft telling him, hey, this is what he did to me on Garoppolo this is the said like he's given him all that

the good stuff on what bella check did to not be trustworthy it's such a damning indictment for someone who when he was with you for two decades you were winning titles a third of the time to say you don't trust him to call somebody and tell them you don't trust this person you trusted him for 20 years but no but you don't trust him anymore you're saying like to make that phone call is fairly extraordinary and if you were watching that documentary on apple was it called dynasty on, if you were watching that documentary in 10 parts, you saw that by the end of it, it just skewers Belichick that all the bad stuff

ended up being blamed on him. Honestly, I feel like, and this is no disrespect to Seth and Don Van Natta for the story, Natta. I don't know why I'm doing this with his name. I feel like I would have been really intrigued by this like three years ago, but there's been such a disaster that I've just, as a fan, I'm happy to watch the dynasty crumble and this is what happens

when dynasties crumble, people just have bad blood. I am intrigued though by Bob Kraft trying to block Bill Belichick from getting a head coaching job and the fact that Arthur Blank would actually listen to Bob Kraft and not just hire the coach he wants to hire. To me it undercuts all of the Patriots what Bob Kraft is doing. I would just want people to think that we're all good. Going out and talking crap about the guy that built everything, helped build everything

for you, it undercuts everything. It makes the whole dynasty seem lesser. I've been trying to think why would Kraft do this? And the only reason I'm left to come up with is Brady. Is that he feels, because we know that Kraft loved Brady, right, that he feels like they got rid of Brady too soon and that Brady went on and it was embarrassing to win a Super Bowl the next season in Tampa, bet.

Nobody likes the person that leaves a job and then goes to another job and talks crap about their former boss or former employees or former people that they work with. It's just a bad look. It looks like I'm just so full of myself that I need to be the person to give direction here. But he's not the employee. He's like the boss talking shit about employees.

That's even worse. That's what I mean, to your point. Like that is worse. Like an employee being disgruntled is kind of normal. The boss, like, and you guys, it's so much success. Nobody had more success than you guys. I know. It, and you guys, it's so much success. Nobody had more success than you guys. It's just, I don't get this. It's great to watch, it's hilarious.

Well, this is why, though, I don't think anything makes the dynasty lesser. There is no thing that can make it lesser just because it's too much winning for anything to actually damage it. But to Jessica's point of thinking this was more interesting three years ago, and she's not wrong, we're tired of a lot of the patriot's coverage in that

documentary hasn't resonated because we've gotten so much coverage about that team but the part to me that makes this reopened interesting is the greatest coach of our lifetimes in any sport had to do multiple interviews for a laughing stock franchise and was left jobless when he wanted to coach. I want to know the explanation for that and part of the explanation is that his owner is

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During one long evening at the Burton's, Robert sent their guest, Tennessee Williams, and director Joseph Loewsie running for the door. But in Burton's words, she insulted Rex, she's talking about Rex Harrison, Rex sexually, morally, physically, lay on the floor in the bar and bark like a dog, started to masturbate her basset hand. Jesus Christ. What's happening? This is the book and I'm like, how do I, you know, because to Mike's point, he's just to know, I read the book. Well, okay, listen, I highlighted this part. So you know, I read it. Spoo gots. Have you ever met Mike before today?

No. No, first meeting. So your thing is in the first five minutes, let's talk about dog masturbation and draft. Because I knew he would be able to relate to the subject matter. He would know what it's like. Because he's a guest on the show and the guy's trying to impress him because okay, what's going to go with? So I figured masturbating a basset hound was definitely something he could at least appreciate weird assumption to make was he right or wrong I'm gonna say I'm

gonna say he was wrong oh this is the Darned LeBatard show with the Stugats look at Adnan Burke feeling and looking liberated from the anchor of weight that is usually David S Samson during this segment David Samson is not here He is very busy traveling to what is an expanding tour a tour That is going all over the United States that is now going to more and more cities the tour hits Pittsburgh tonight It does you have a booger in your right nostril. So does Clooney You might want to take care of that since this is televised and then i

work as the entire floor to himself here so there's plenty to talk about and we can show off some of and nans hockey knowledge so if between leaps and bruins and panthers lightning which one of those do you most prefer to uh... talk about uh... what's left to pay others leading first it was pander to your audience preferred to talk about? Let's let's do Panthers Lightning first, Dan. Let's pander to your audience naturally. I think it's gonna be fascinating watching this goalie matchup because Vasilevsky for years has been one of the best goalies in the sport but his numbers this year not as strong. A 900 state

percentage around 2-6-0 goals against whereas Sergei Bobrovsky was better quite frankly 915 state percentage 2-3-7 goals against. You know I think this matchup is great because both teams are awfully skilled up front but they can be stout defensively if need be. I don't expect fire wagon hockey, I don't expect 5-4, I expect close games, and I hope the Panthers can emerge victorious.

But I think it's gonna be a very exciting series, not only for the Sunshine State, but for all of us hockey fans. I think the other thing you have to look at too is the special team situation because the Panthers led the league in penalty minutes and they were second in the league in power play opportunities for their opponents and the Lightning were the best in the league in the power play so that's something else you got to look at.

Absolutely Roy but I always find it fascinating as you know as well as I do how much the referees put away the whistles come playoff time so special teams can often be critical of course if there's a big five out of three in the third period who isn't going to be excited about that but I oftentimes as you know a lot more clutching a lot more holding grabbing the refs will get away with so perhaps a team that is often penalized can skate by come second season. I don't know if I can give you two straight hockey questions without sprinkling in some other stuff before losing the people who don't have any

interest in Panthers hockey. So Jeremy can you read Adnan some of Brian Cox's quotes? Brian Cox, for those of you who do not know, has been an actor for a ton of time, a long time. A classically trained actor, thespian, and most famous for being Logan Roy in succession. And he does something that I just never see actors do. He's called Johnny Depp overrated, but he's taken out recently here Joaquin Phoenix

on Napoleon. What are the quotes there, Jeremy, to read to Adnan? So he said of Joaquin Phoenix and Napoleon, terrible, it's terrible. A truly terrible performance by Joaquin Phoenix. It really is appalling. I don't know what he was thinking. I think it's totally his fault,

and I don't think Ridley Scott helps him. I would have played it a lot better than Joaquin Phoenix. I tell you that. You could say it's good drama. No, it's lies. And then continued, I think he's well named. Joaquin, Joaquin, wacky. It's sort of a wacky performance.

How rare is that for an actor to put his name on that? Exceptionally rare, Dan. I love Ryan Cox because he gives zero Fs, performance. How rare is that for an actor to put his name on that? Exceptionally rare, Dan. I love Ryan Cox because he gives zero F's and he's been a great actor for a long time. People will know Hannibal Lecter and Sides of the Lambs. He played Hannibal Lecter way back in Manhunter, the great Michael Mann movie back in 1986. So he's been an excellent actor for a long time, Rob Roy, et cetera. He really obviously found his second home and second win with succession and for notoriety for all. But yeah, actors normally stick together.

They're a fraternity. If somebody feels that way, they might espouse that privately. To say so publicly is both funny and unique. And I love everything that Brian Cox stands for. I need to know if anyone has actually seen Napoleon because my understanding is it didn't do very well in the box office. So Brian Cox could be right about this. Jess, I'm one of the few that actually liked it. You're right. It did do very well in the box office. So Brian Cox could be right about this. Jess, I'm one of the few that actually liked it. You're right. It did not do well at the box office. It did not do well with critics.

I actually found it enjoyable. And part of it is that I think it's meant to be kitschy and a little bit silly at times. I think that's what Cox is. Was it wacky? Wacky, wacky, wakene. Like that was what I wouldn't say is wacky. I'll give you I don't be vulgar but he's like a really horny guy so there's one scene where Vanessa Kirby's his wife's in the bed

and rather than like seducer he just starts worrying like a motor and he starts like tapping his foot so like yeah either you're gonna say oh this guy's very impatient and funny and using non-verbal communication to have sex or you you're going to say this is a bad performance and an actor hamming it up and whacking what he. Totally Brian Cox picked the latter. It just seems like he's a hater. He's like, Dan, what's the story you always tell of like, I looked everywhere and the best person for the job? Me.

Yeah, quick hour for it, dude. That was Dolphins. Joe Bailey. Joe Bailey, he was searching for a new COO of the Dolphins and searched all over the globe and found it in the bathroom mirror. The best candidate was in the bathroom mirror. But that quote means nothing, right? And then because he's not really criticizing the performance, he's saying I wanted that role. Yeah. That's the key. Stu is he brought the hammer down at the end because everything else he could just be, you know, a learned

critic. Maybe someone who really knows a lot about Napoleon Bonaparte and is just being passionate but he's like he made clear it was not really scalded fault it was not imputing him it's clearly in the actor because I am the better actor which by the way I think he is right but he did criticize the performance he criticized it wasn't just that he wanted the job he was pretty critical of the job that was done and furthermore i would say walking phoenix is one of those people if he makes a movie i'm gonna watch it because he makes good choices and he's an exceptional athlete

exceptional actor that strange to have him take out someone of that i a cox is the athlete yes thank you uh... is uh... it's strange to see uh... a situation Thank you. It's strange to see a situation where not only you're taking out another actor, but an actor of this pedigree. Jeremy, what else did Brian Cox have to say? Braveheart is a load of nonsense. Mel Gibson was wonderful, but it's a load of lies. He never impregnated the French princess.

It's a bollocks, that film. All right, that's fine. That's tame for Brian Cox. That's better. That's that's tame for Brian better later called critics stupid He said they're all stupid because theater criticisms gone right down. He would have done better there on that one He also said that method method acting is also bollocks Nonsense, huh they're transmitters of energy talking about Jeremy strong there exactly a voice right so on set Brian Cox The type show up learning lines and go.

And Jeremy Strong is like, give me a minute, let me get in character. And it's like, oh my God, this method acting nonsense. So he said, listen, I respect Jeremy. I think he's a great actor, but it's not for me. I think it's a waste of time. Bollocks, as he would say. Have you seen the two part Apple documentary on Steve Martin? Steve Martin also, I thought it was, listen, the second half is outstanding, Dan.

The first half I actually thought was, listen, the second half is outstanding, Dan. The first half, I actually thought, was a little pedantic. It's mainly just showcasing Steve Martin at the height of his stand-up career, and it's all B-roll. You don't actually see any talking head. You'll see voice of Jerry Seinfeld, voice of Steve Martin at the bottom of the script. But it's essentially him doing that wild and crazy guy,

and, well, excuse me, and Kingtoth arrow through his head. And I've got to be honest, I know it was a cultural phenomenon. I know he sold out the way Fleetwood Mac would sell at stadiums but I didn't find the humor particularly funny to me it's rather dated unlike the way a Richard Pryor George Carlin their humor still stands up but the second part I thought was fascinating that was Steve Martin today showing his life his wife is complicated relationship with his father as

so many relationships of artists and fathers are. His relationship with Marty Short, of course I love him, Canadian legend, what he's been able to do with his movies, parenthood, LA story. Wish there was more on both fingers. Sadly, no Eddie Murphy interview. We needed more on both fingers. He tells a wonderful story with the late John Candy. We love playing trains and automobiles. So I'd recommend it to him. It's very good on Apple Plus. You love the second one where he cooks a poached egg. Yeah. He said he knows that I can only cook one thing. It was actually two things, two poached eggs.

And you see him in detail cooking poached eggs. And he's laughing saying, how fascinating is this going to be in the documentary? People watch me cook and then eat breakfast. But he's a man of simple taste. But actually, I shouldn't say simple taste. He has very expensive exotic taste. He loves art. He's a massive art collector.

He's the one Marty Short first met him. They're working three amigos. He walked in his house. He was beside himself. That's a Picasso. That's this. He goes, I've seen your movies. How can you afford this? Like it was astonishing that Steve Martin is renowned art collector, but he's got a real fine eye for that kind of thing. You mentioned Bofinger. I think it's among Eddie Murphy's best performances. What do you believe to be Eddie Murphy's greatest performance? I think it's impossible a top coming to America Dan and certainly 48 hours has a lot of fans and trading places but I'm with you on Bofinger being top five I think it's criminally

underrated because he's able to play that character of Jif so well the braces the shyness the laughing the squeamish behavior he's so excitable around Heather Graham. And then of course the other character, which is the one who's being seduced by Terrence Stamp, and clearly a shot at Scientology. And the dual performances are great. And I think Martin's hilarious. That last shot when he says, you know, my whole life, every one day the FedEx guy will come and give me a package. The way it's shot in slow motion, I was falling out of my chair in the theater. I love that movie. What is your top five list that now has some room on it because David Samson is not here

and you can actually expound on some things for once? So we, yeah, I can't believe David's not here. I'm thrilled. But honestly, Dan, it's a mystery. We're not exactly sure where he is. So in honor of Samson's curious disappearance, we're doing the top five mystery movies in cinematic history. All right.

He's in Pittsburgh. Everybody, it's as part of the tour he's in Pittsburgh but let's go ahead and do top five movies mysteries number five the Maltese Falcon listen Bogart at his best I know you're gonna quibble and say this is a film from a different era. Bogart at his best! It could be anywhere really. This is, to quote the film, the stuff that dreams are made of. A great film noir, detective thriller, mystery movie, The Maltese Falcon. Dial it up. Everyone loves it.

Number four. The Usual Suspects. So successful was the ad campaign. They simply had the words, who is Kaiser Soze? And people were obviously entranced by this concept and what exactly it was all about. And we don't wanna give it away, do we? 1995, spoiler alert, but amazing cast, of course,

from start to finish and especially that final reveal. It's a great mystery that really comes undone at the right time. It does so beautifully. Number three. Number three is the sixth sense. I see dead people. I mean, Haley Joel Osmond's career, one might argue,

has been like a cadaver ever since, but he was amazing in this movie. Of course, Bruce Willis showing his dramatic chops, and the arrival of M. Night Shyamalan, this filmmaker from Philadelphia who revered Hitchcock, clearly was inspired by those types of mysteries and thrillers, it still holds, it still bangs from today. Number two Memento.

Chris for Nolan I mean what an incredible conceit for a movie we're gonna go backwards forwards with a slip in some black and white in color everyone keeps talking about Oppenheimer this behemoth that won seven Academy Awards and made almost a billion dollars. Memento is a great mystery, a great psychological thriller. If you haven't seen it, do yourself a favor. It's incredible. Yes or no, better than Oppenheimer. It seems like you were tempted to do it, but you wouldn't do it.

You wouldn't quite go there. You were a bit of a coward. You wanted to do it and you failed. Better than Oppenheimer, Dan. I will not... There it is. Wow. Say it.

Next time. Put it on the poll. Is Memento better than Oppenheimer? Number one. Number one, what's in the box? What's in the box? Seven. As dark and gruesome as it gets,

it's not necessarily a fun one for the whole family because it's grim and unrelenting, but I think it's a brilliant thriller, brilliant mystery movie. What's in the box? Great work from everybody, including Morgan Freeman, Brad Pitt, and director Brad Fincher. I saw a good documentary the other day about the history of The Exorcist.

I did not know about the movie The Exorcist. I did not know a ton of things about that. And one of the things that I did not know is that- Billy Friedkin slapping the priest. He loves slapping people. One of the things that I did not know is that The Exorcist initially did not classify as a horror movie. Was not ever made as a horror movie. Which is crazy to think about that because there's literally scenes of a woman stabbing herself in her private

area with a crucifix and you know saying things about Jesus that we won't repeat here. I mean just think about it like oh this is like a light comedy walk in the park. No this is a horrific film and by way, that image from the movie is amazing. That's one of the most haunting images ever. You nailed the dismount. You edited yourself on what it is that you were saying, on what she was saying, but you left in the part of what she did with the crucifix.

Gave you just enough to Dan, but left a little left to the imagination. Man, did we bail on hockey early. Yeah, we did. Leafs-Brewins, final thoughts. Brewins dominant for regular season series 4-0. Toronto hasn't won a cup since 67. That drought will continue.

I think the Brewins win in six. It's been fun.