The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: We Talked About an Asshat (feat. David Samson)

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:28 I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere,
Starting point is 00:01:45 fat face, and the habitual liar. Do you know how bad the takes had to be yesterday for us to be an hour into reviewing how bad the takes were and no one's even mentioned Chris Cody saying he'd rather have Zach Wilson than Russell Wilson? What a sad conversation this Zach Wilson conversation is. It's so sad. Everyone coming at me on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:02:07 oh, I'd rather have Minshew. I'd rather have Jamis. It's just the names that are getting thrown at me. Chris, it's an insane hill to die on, I'm sorry. I'm not saying that he's great. I'm saying show me a quarterback with more upside. Well, you're saying he has upside because of how terrible he's been, so you just assume he can't get any worse no it's
Starting point is 00:02:27 because of where he was drafted back up like right that's what I'm saying no no no but you can't do that with the Dolphins you can't say but he's your back-up cuz that's what we did last guy's last year I was like they should sign a better backup because they shouldn't have let Mike White go if you see that if that's what we're doing here, we want Mike White over Zach Wilson. We needed season three of White Lotus. Oh, you took my joke. That is the thing.
Starting point is 00:02:49 The names that are being thrown back at me are so sad. Well, that's because that's the class that Zach Wilson is in, unfortunately. But my point is, he's in that class, and he's probably the youngest guy with the biggest arm. You can't make the argument for any of these other people over having more upside than Zach Wilson. Gardner, Minshew.
Starting point is 00:03:06 So no one's gonna change their opinions. But the argument was, Russell Wilson or Zach Wilson, was it not? Yeah, you said Zach. And if you say, the next five years, who can be better? I don't think you're saying, Five years is a one year deal.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Or this year, okay? Well, do it this year. Russell Wilson's gonna be better this year. Okay, and I don't think you can say that for sure. For sure. Like, in Mike McDaniel's offense, I could make, like, I think Zach Wilson could be just as good as Russell Wilson in this offense.
Starting point is 00:03:33 No, because Russell Wilson would come to this offense and then he'd be a higher version of that too. I disagree, I disagree with that. I saw Russell Wilson last year and he wasn't good. In Mike McDaniel's offense? No, in a worse offense. Okay, that's my point. If you're gonna say- And he was actually not that bad for being in a worse offense. If you're good. And Mike McDaniel's offense? No, in a worse offense. OK, that's my point. If you're going to say that Mike McDaniel is going
Starting point is 00:03:49 to sprinkle pixie dust, if you're saying he's going to sprinkle pixie dust, and Zach Wilson, if you're saying he's going to do it a third time, That offense had no lie receivers either. If you're saying he's going to sprinkle pixie dust, and Zach Wilson's magically going to get better, potentially, then the same pixie dust would apply
Starting point is 00:04:05 to Russell Wilson as well. The Russell Wilson-Steeler's conversation is an interesting one that I feel like we've already had several times, but I don't think he is the only reason to blame for the Steelers imploding at the end of the season, and I do think that in a better world where there's not animosity perceived on my part
Starting point is 00:04:21 between him and Arthur Smith, it makes sense for them to just resign him for a year because they're not gonna get anything better. That being said, Zach Wilson wouldn't be better either. I'm not saying Zach Wilson's good. I'm saying of all these names that I have in front of me, I get saying, if I'm Mike McDaniel, I get saying I'm looking at all these people.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I could do something with that. That's all I'm saying. It's not a terrible deal. Everyone's just like, oh, they shouldn't have signed Zach Wilson. They should have signed blank. All those names. Sad. Every single one of them. So is he. Okay. But I would argue like he's in that group. He's equal to all those people is
Starting point is 00:04:54 all I'm saying. Alright, enough. Enough. Less sad than the other sadness. David, would you rather be listening to this conversation or waiting on Holden? We just are late to a segment start. Samson's furious right now. He has been seething. He has been a volcano of fury. Just take me through your rage right now as you've had to listen for the second time to a Zach Wilson conversation. Well, that's coming after listening to an entire 37
Starting point is 00:05:19 minutes relitigating stuff from yesterday. So I was just trying to decide at what point we'd be willing to go to today's show. It's totally up to you. You're the leader of this intrepid team. So let me know. What else did we get wrong yesterday? What else is there?
Starting point is 00:05:35 Oh man, I mean, Chris is so obviously not the type of guy who goes to a Ren Faire normally. He's a Chili Cook-Off guy. He told you it's obvious. Look at his face. That's a Chili Cook-Off guy, not a Ren Faire guy. What are you guys doing with that take? I was thinking about this yesterday. Ren Fest is like theater kids.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Yeah. You know that love to dress up. I should be at Ren Faire. Chris should be at the Chili Cook Off. This is obvious. And I can't believe that this show had the gumption to get a takeoff that was that bad. It was really, I was really disappointed.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Shame, honestly. Dan's head was on the table. He's totally checked out and he heard gumption and it was like Marty McFly at the Enchantment Under the Sea. It was that bad. It was really I was really disappointed shame honestly Dan's head was on the table He's totally checked out and he heard gumption and it was like Marty McFly and the enchantment under the Dan Does your microphone actually work like are we having tech? What else did we get wrong yesterday? Trying to convince people Aaron Rodgers was good Pretty crazy trying to convince people James Winston's bad That was an interesting one. I don't know what's that about. That was so annoying. That was pretty crazy. Trying to convince people James Winston's bad.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Oh, that too. James Winston would be a better name. You said he'd be buttoned up. Honestly, you guys attacking Billy on that was some of the best work yesterday. What? Did you see him on Fox? First of all, James Winston, yes, he threw 30 interceptions. You know what he had after that 30 interception season?
Starting point is 00:06:41 LASIK. And he's never thrown 30 again. Thank you. It'd be funny if we signed James. No, notasek, and he's never thrown 30 again. Thank you. It'd be funny if we signed Jamis. No, not we, the Steelers. He couldn't see, like the whole point of the thing was he didn't know what he was throwing at. Like, is that a red jersey?
Starting point is 00:06:52 Oh, and now he's amazing. He didn't throw any interceptions when he was playing for the Browns this year. Not 30. Not 30. I'll tell you what, someone stole that take from me later in the day. The Lasek take?
Starting point is 00:07:04 Could you imagine Jamis Winston on the Steelers? Someone stole that from me me later in the day. The LASIK take? Could you imagine James Winston on the Steeler? Someone stole that from me. A major player. Who stole it? DraftKings took it and they put it on their account. What could you imagine, James Winston? Samson, what are you shaking your head about? What's the matter?
Starting point is 00:07:17 You just want to get to today's show? You want to get to things today and I can't get control of the show? Is that the problem? I'm just watching time move in extricably on past what I expected it to be. I'm very interested in Jameis Winston in LASIKs. That's tremendous.
Starting point is 00:07:34 That's tremendous Charlie Sheen type major league insight that he couldn't see and now all of a sudden he can see, therefore the Jets have made a good signing look at all the pictures of him Pre-lasik he's always squinting. He's always squinting and then all of a sudden not squinting Do you know how many times I mean we would say to players when they were in a slump and we do the Charlie Sheen thing We'd say hey listen, can we by chance check your eyesight? So we would do it during preseason physicals We'd have them all do the eye chart and do all the stuff. But anytime we had scouted someone or signed someone
Starting point is 00:08:10 that we thought would be better, and when they weren't performing, it didn't occur to us that we were bad at evaluating. It occurred to us that maybe they needed glasses. It's so asinine to try to cover up your lack of ability to choose good players with some sort of physical issue regarding eyesight. No stone unturned.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Just so that you guys know, I'm not in a position to make this particular correction, given that yesterday I confused Chan Ho Park and Hideo Nomo, but I think that David Sampson just confused Winston and Justin Fields. I did. You need to pay a fine for that because Jamis is not. Jamis is not with the New York Jets, and that's not a mistake that you can make. I will pay the Venmo fine.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I did on this morning's nothing personal. I did a bit of a quarterback was going to be in the show. Daniel Jones going to the Vikings, and I couldn't get to the topic because we only had 50 minutes to do the whole show, so I couldn't get to it. And so I now have an entire day to worry about how I'm gonna deal with all the quarterback carousel tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:09:21 David, yesterday we got the sad news that Junior Bridgman passed away. Junior Bridgman, your Wisconsin roots, I'm sure you're familiar with Junior Bridgman. Dan was the guy that was in the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar trade, but he was made more famous by everything he did after his playing career, which was he invested in franchises and he became one of the great business success stories that the NBA and the NBA would bring around the players and look, this is what you do with your money. Remember it as an entrepreneur
Starting point is 00:09:50 even more than a basketball player. He was a billionaire and the most he ever made in any NBA season I believe was like $365,000. And so David, I was wondering, who is the junior Bridgman of baseball that you would introduce players who would talk about like this is what you do with your money off the field. So not Pudge, but I was going to do and I did something for on also on this morning
Starting point is 00:10:12 show when I did a obituary for junior Bridgman. I tried to come up with a top five list on the fly of business leaders, former basketball players or former athletes. And I have Junior Bridgman there, and I put Magic Johnson in the top five. I put Shaquille O'Neal in the top five. I put Jamal Mashburn in the top five. And I put Junior Bridgman in the top five.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And then I struggled to mean, I need a fifth NBA player who has had a level of post-care career success that is off the charts financially. Who do you got for me? Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan is obviously. Seems kind of obvious. So the reason why I didn't have Michael Jordan and now that I think about it I guess he has to be is I believe that a lot of the wealth came from According to the movie air came from a contract that he signed as a player that gave him continuing In perpetuity rights from the Jordan brand of Nike not that he should be poo-pooed for such a business deal
Starting point is 00:11:19 But that was not necessarily post career but that was not necessarily post career. Karan Butler is as a lot of stuff, a lot of Burger King franchises, I believe, because when he was a kid, he worked at Burger King. And that was one of the things that kind of saved him when he was recovering kind of from some poor life choices earlier. So Karan's up there. I don't know if he's not at the caliber of those other five
Starting point is 00:11:43 guys that we just named. Did he get it from jr. Bridgman because his the majority of his wealth was from buying franchises of Wendy's and Chili's Yep And of course there's now 10% of the bucks that he bought last year and people didn't realize that he is a major owner of the was of the Milwaukee Bucks and also another name is He is a major owner of the, was of the Milwaukee Bucks. And also another name is Andre Guadala, who would be like the 21st century of this and investing in tech.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And the biggest example of that was he invested in Zoom before the pandemic. And so when the pandemic took off and everyone started using Zoom, Andre Guadala was like ching ching, right, basically. That's a winner. For me, Dan, there's been so many players, we talked to them about financial prudence
Starting point is 00:12:27 and we try to explain how to save money and not many players are good at it and they don't really understand it and agents don't help because we try to get financial advisors to advise the players, but agents really get in the way of that because they want total control of the players. And so they'll start investment arms, a lot of these agencies where they'll try to talk
Starting point is 00:12:51 about and get another percentage above just the fee for doing the contract for being an investment advisor for the player. And we always advise our players to go in a different direction than that. You do need diversity when it comes to your agents and your money managers, but you're right Dan, I'd say it's the biggest problem that faces players in their post career is that no matter how much money they make in their career, they don't realize
Starting point is 00:13:18 they'll never make more again. And of course we just hit a top five of those who do, but those are the exceptions not the rule Well, I wanted to talk about Shaq for a second and I wanted to talk more broadly with you and Amin Whether someone like Elon Musk whether it's even possible to be running that many companies Well given what it actually takes to run a company So Shaquille O'Neal obviously has a lot of different interests and i mean is in the time the tank for shak but shak cannot uh... make this particular mistake
Starting point is 00:13:51 when being uh... an analyst who is keeping up with the times listen to shakil anil talking about the pistons and just having no idea what he's talking about the great i like the way he's playing i like what chelsea's doing those guys play hard my favorite player on my team is Isaiah Stewart. Big body, hard guy. I like to knock people out, push people around. No, I can't let this go. Who's doing it? You said Chauncey?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Chauncey's the coach, right? Portland. No. Chauncey, you're the coach. I can't let this go. J.B. Biggis. Biggis, that's what I meant. First of all, I don't watch the trail. How about that, boo boo? I don't watch them. I just couldn't let that train. How about that, boo boo? I don't watch them. So, nah, I messed up. I like Chauncey's work.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I made a mistake. You put a trail on it? What the frickin' do I make a mistake? And I asked the question sincerely, how much attention can he be paying attention to everything? Chauncey Billups, Hideo Nomo, James Winston, that's all the same, right? It's a guy, roughly.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Yeah, you can't blame him for that sort of mistake. I understand he's an analyst on Inside the NBA making a ton of money to do it, but those types of things happen. So I don't criticize Shaq for that. The correction should have been made, it was made. And I just wouldn't have doubled down by saying I don't watch Detroit.
Starting point is 00:14:59 That's not what I want my top analysts to say. I want them to like the whole league. But Dan, I'm not gonna criticize Shaq for that one. I can't believe Shaq would be that uninformed. Check out a Sunday night college basketball watch party. Jesus Christ. You were so confident grabbing that and then you just stuttered and stumbled your way through.
Starting point is 00:15:18 It's just so wild. I mean, the Pistons are one of the best stories in basketball this year. And JB Bickerstaff, going from Cleveland to Detroit and doing this with Detroit, is like one of maybe the five coolest stories in the league. I know Detroit's not like the sexy team to watch, especially the last several years,
Starting point is 00:15:37 but that's a pretty basic one that I would think Shaq should know, right? I'm not asking for Inside the NBA to be in-depth analysis. It's entertainment, but. To be fair, to be fair, that was, first of all, that was why they had the topic, because they're talking about the Pistons, and Shaq's like, I'm not gonna watch the Pistons.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And Candice and Vince are telling him, no, they're actually really good, you gotta watch them. And he's like, I watched them. And that push and pull is great. Right, and so he does that. And then, my thing was this, I thought he just had a brain fart, because he's talking about Detroit and Chauncey Billups.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I thought he meant like Chauncey Billups, Detroit or whatever. But then when he doubled down on it, second, isn't he the coach at Detroit? I was like, ah, damn. Not great. The other thing that's interesting about Detroit and Monte Williams changed the entire salary structure
Starting point is 00:16:21 for coaches there, got the highest paid job in the history of basketball, and was gone in a year, and everything got fixed as soon as he left. Like that's nuts. That part of the story is a total insanity because coaching salaries doubled based on what Monte Williams got for one year in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You know what's funny is, when I was thinking about this the other day, and J.B. Bickerstaff and the year he's having, even though Kenny Atkinson is doing better with the players he had last year, and it made me wonder, I wonder what Mark Jackson would have been like if he had gotten another job somewhere, how he would have been thought of.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Because JB Bickerstaff was like, oh, you bombed, this team isn't winning. And now it's like, JB Bickerstaff, pretty good coach, huh? Samson though, when it comes to Elon Musk, okay, Tesla is tankinging it's lost like seventy percent of its value in Germany and Australia Trump is on the lawn doing a Tesla commercial can Elon Musk possibly be running and governing all
Starting point is 00:17:18 all this while taking I don't know 17 billion dollars in government subsidies for the last ten years and his SpaceX stuff is exploding over Turks and Caicos, and his businesses are kind of hurting right now. Is it possible to be in a position that he's in and govern any of those businesses correctly? Well, you can look at Warren Buffett as someone who runs one major company, Berkshire Hathaway, but then underneath him, what he does is he buys companies
Starting point is 00:17:47 that maintain their operators. And so he chooses his investments that way. He doesn't pretend to run all the companies that he owns. What I assume Elon Musk has is that he has operators for his businesses that are doing the day to day. He is involved obviously in the major strategic decisions. He will be involved but not every day in the operation of Tesla or any of his other investments.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I don't know how he'd have the time to do it. So the answer is there's only 24 hours in a day and it is very difficult to actually be hands on with all the different things that he is claiming to be hands-on. So my guess is he's far more of a chairman than he is an actual CEO of these companies. We don't give Stu Gatt enough flowers, man, for getting that one right years ahead of everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:38 He was. There has been no take that he's gotten more right than that one 10 years early. I miss that character. I don't know Billy where it is that Elon Musk is, but I would love at any point to see him again. I also miss Billy doing the Elon Musk impressions. Remember that? Those masks disappeared.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I don't know where they ended up. They ended up with the fine bucket. I think if you did an Elon Musk impression now, probably wouldn't be able to air it over television. Ah, I'm Elon Musk. Yes, you would be able to air it over television. Yes, you would. We do a lot worse than that. I think that the issue that we're seeing now is just the timing and the way things are happening. The announcement yesterday that everyone in the White House is getting
Starting point is 00:19:17 Teslas. It just is such a bad look with all of the slashing they're doing in aid to foreign countries and all of the trade wars and the stock market is plunging and all of the things that they're in theory trying to fix. There was really no reason for that sort of PR moment that they took yesterday. I thought the timing was strange for it. It wasn't going to really have such an impact on the stock. It wasn't going to impact Elon's wealth. It was some sort of favor for him, but the timing just didn't seem necessary. Have you guys ever seen, like,
Starting point is 00:19:50 my TikTok algorithm is weird. So I see like car reviews, and they've got the EVs from China, and when I watch these reviews and watch what these cars can do. Oh no, there are better cars being made all over the place, yes. But I keep them tariffs up there because,
Starting point is 00:20:04 like, for $47,000, the type of car, it's damn near a spaceship. And they don't explode, and they change the way that they look over 13 years. That's super rare that the body of a car wouldn't change. Dan, they got a car that's full electric that also has a gas tank that when you run out of charge, you can pour gas into it, and then it runs on gas, and then the gas engine
Starting point is 00:20:30 charges the electric battery all over again, 700 miles. It's called a hybrid. No, but no, when you say hybrid, people think of like a Prius. This thing was like an SUV with an incredible, well, like a full electric engine that also can do gasoline as opposed to a hybrid like a Prius where the gas is required to keep charging the engine. You can't charge it separately. It's, it was, it's called
Starting point is 00:20:59 a plug-in hybrid. All right. Whatever. Okay. I don't know why it is you guys are doing this exactly in terms of disagreeing. I think Amin is generally right when he says that China has surpassed this automobile and they have a finer model electrical model than Elon Musk does. David, by way of example, most plug-in hybrids here that are available in the United States get about a hundred miles, a hundred fifty miles to the charge. This thing gets 700. Like that's a massive difference in terms of performance and efficiency that they've
Starting point is 00:21:33 mastered over there that literally these cars are not available to us here because the tower structure is such that it is preventing them from entering the market. I have to change my whole movie review. I was gonna review Ed Begley's movie, Who Killed the Electric Car, but you've totally ruined it. So now I can't review that. I'll have to do something else, Stan. I'd like to do a review of Stu Gott in 2018,
Starting point is 00:21:58 talking about Elon Musk. What a quack, Elon Musk. He's lost over $2 billion in the last month. He's going to have to start selling bonds because he needs to raise money. Otherwise Tesla is going to go under. It's a bad, terrible business model when all you do is talk about the products you're going to create and then you don't produce them. Where's the revenue?
Starting point is 00:22:19 What are you selling? Dreams? Ideas? What are you selling? You're not selling anything tangible. You're just selling me a bunch of noise. Ha! About that musk.
Starting point is 00:22:30 What? Are you gonna Mars with that? Stick that in your rocket and smoke it. That's a good one. We play that chief sound all the time. We should be playing this a lot more often. This is more right than that chief sound is wrong, potentially. This was around the time of that whole cave rescue debacle.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I think that was when a lot of people were like, hang on a second. Ha! I'm sorry, are you saying that take is actually a correct take? I want to make sure I'm getting the show properly. What about what he said exactly? I can assure you you're not. Let's just start from there. Because I'm fine with that. I'm fine the show properly. What about what he said exactly? You're not, I can assure you you're not. Let's just start from there.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Because I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. But I would point out that far from defending Musk, which I shan't do, given his role as an unelected official in the government and what he's doing, I will say that what he's done on the business side for Tesla, not withstanding the recent slide
Starting point is 00:23:24 where there's been a slide all over the place, he has created wealth in a way that prior to Trump becoming president, he was creating wealth for himself with reckless indifference toward other people, obviously, but it's hard to call him not a successful businessman. What a quack. You using shant there, you regret it, no? I love the word shant there, you'll regret it, no?
Starting point is 00:23:45 I love the word shant. All right, put it on the poll at LeBittard Show. Is the person who uses the word shant an asshole? No. I'm just asking, what do you mean no? Leave it to the people, they'll decide. Chris and I are in the shant. But why would you use the word asshole in the poll?
Starting point is 00:24:05 That is a leading poll that you're getting people to say that that's what I am for using it. That's just not fair, Dan. You're stacking the deck. What's the word you'd like me to use? Because shant is the thing that I, when you go past tense shant, it just feels like a jerk move.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I think the poll question is, does the person who uses shant by definition use great poop-a? No, don't, don't. That's a terrible poll question. You stick with the original. Like, he comes in here, tells us how to do our show, and just comes in, doesn't know who the Jets quarterback is.
Starting point is 00:24:44 This is why we make you wait to talk David. Come in and tell us that Elon Musk he shan't be on his side on any other thing other than he makes tons of money. Have we ever had a poll question come back a hundred and one percent? Yes yes thank you David thank you. The world's richest man makes a lot of money he's good at that yes that's correct And also 17 billion dollars in government subsidies in the last 10 years. He's good at that too shant Hey friends, it's Jerrobear here and I'm here to tell you all about boost mobile, which is now a legit nationwide 5g network
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Starting point is 00:28:41 This is the Dan Lebatard Show with the Stugats! I want to ask you guys, yesterday I stumbled around. This was bizarre. Of all the things that we got wrong yesterday, this is high on the list. I don't know if the seven words you can't say on television is still a thing or not, but yesterday I stumbled around on the Spanish word for boobs because I didn't think I could say one of those words and I don't know what standard I was using. So let's put up the baseball cap here for the Texas Rangers
Starting point is 00:29:20 and we were talking about this right here and is this is the seven words you can't use on television is that still a thing David network television. So yeah the FCC still has obviously that's why there is delays when you watch live shows because you cannot use those seven words now it's the funny that's the George Carlin take of it but But I actually, when thinking of the seven words, I don't think that this is one of them. And this is where you're gonna make fun of me. And I did this this morning too, and I did it wrong. Is it tatas? No, it is not. Put that in the club, guys.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Please. You could not, you could not have said that in a way that was covered in more starch. Tetas. That's how I said it this morning. I was trying to figure out what is the proper way to say it and I couldn't. To be fair, Katie Nolan pronounced it Titas.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I heard that too. Titas on, what is it? Casuals. Casuals is the name of her podcast. I told her she's never sound water. She sounded like ketchup on tacos. Teetas. Well, can you say the word please? Teetas.
Starting point is 00:30:31 That's what you're gonna, Teetas? Teetas. Well, you're not. Teetas? Teetas. Teetas. Teetas. Teetas.
Starting point is 00:30:42 It sounds like you're saying tater tots. Getting creepier. Start with that, like, like you're saying tatered getting creepier start with it Like like you're starting the first part of Tesla, okay Tata's there you go Billy Billy is Spanish instructors Been saying tits tits tits tits tits over and over for five minutes then also to answer your question the FCC only over and over for five minutes. Dan, also to answer your question, the FCC only applies to over the air,
Starting point is 00:31:06 so technically cable can say whatever, that's why on the shield or some of the other shows they drop F bombs, which by the way, they used to not do because the networks, the cable networks were worried the FCC would then say, hey, we need to extend it over to where cable is as well. But that is one of those words in English, correct? You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:31:28 I believe that the... It's obscene and profane is the FCC standard, but the George Carlin bit, it is one of those words, and I think that they get transposed with one another. Okay, so, okay, I did not know that. David, how does this happen? How is all of this? It's impossible. What do you mean all of this? It's impossible.
Starting point is 00:31:45 What do you mean it's impossible? It's impossible. So there are so many levels of approval that happen when new era comes out with a cap. First, the clubhouse manager gets an email that has all of the new designs for the upcoming season for authentic on field items. But that email goes to the team president,
Starting point is 00:32:07 it goes to the head of marketing, it goes to the GM, and then we have to send back an approval that we approve that which baseball has designed. And before baseball sends it to you, they approve it from what New Era sends. So there are multiple levels. So it can't be, and I blame 80% of this on Texas and 20% on MLB and 20% on New Era. And the reason why I'm going 120 is that this mistake is so crazy to me that 100% is simply not enough to not have the sensitivity
Starting point is 00:32:45 or sensibility to proofread or to say out loud take a look at what do you have a picture and I didn't prep the video guys sorry do you have a picture of the angels hat by chance was also pulled okay well we have a picture of an A's hat that was used creatively here we do not have the ability to immediately get up for you an angels hat, but we do have the ass hat right here, which is a great insult. And also a hat that says ass. It is an ass hat.
Starting point is 00:33:17 It's almost unreal that these were not paid attention to by anybody and everybody, including Texas, has bilingual employees. And so we would check, and of course in Miami, you're much more thinking about that, but we would check everything for am I missing something as a non-Spanish speaking team president. I had a consignere who was completely bilingual and Cuban, and he would check everything for me
Starting point is 00:33:46 to make sure I wasn't missing something. Yes, but Sam said, what about the Astros one that says assholes? Finger popping each other's assholes. We weren't finger popping each other's assholes. I think that's one of the words. Is it, assholes? I prefer the Anels one, but that's just me.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Tate us to club, please. What a great show we're doing. How about the Bobon hat? Someone give Bobon that hat for his birthday. Let me hear again. I'd just like to see in the history of South Florida whether boobs has ever been said quite this gringified. Taitas.
Starting point is 00:34:22 With a question mark. Taitas. I'm question mark. Taitas? I'm giving you all I got, captain. Taitas? It's just asinine. Taitas? I got David in the backyard with Taylor Swift with the ball like, Taitas?
Starting point is 00:34:42 David, Garrett Cole, the Yankee ace, they're paying him an awful lot of money, or used to be an awful lot of money in this sport. And now he's going out with Tommy John surgery again. And the human arm is not made to do that. I really don't know or understand the science of how it is that baseball continues to have arms like that break down when paying that much money.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Explain to me both the finances and the devastation caused by the Yankees losing that particular pitcher. Well, it hurts. You're not supposed to sign pitchers to long-term deals because they're never going to work out. The examples maybe are Scherzer and Verlander as two deals that did work out, but the overwhelming majority do not. But owners don't seem to care about the analytics. They get told this by the commissioner's office. We are shown spreadsheets of all of
Starting point is 00:35:36 the contracts that we all sign. And it used to be in the early 2000s, Bud Selig would put contracts on the board that were bad, but not call out the teams that did it, not assign it to a player or a team. As his career winded down and as Rob started, they forwent all of that and they just would put it right up there. Look what the Marlins did and they'd go team by team with all the bad contracts. But the real mistake that's happening right now is Yankee fans seem to think that the Yankees have 27 extra million dollars Because of an insurance policy they had on Garrett Cole
Starting point is 00:36:14 But what they're neglecting to understand is while you do get the 27 million That's the amount of payment from an insurance company after you fight with them But Garrett Cole's entire salary still counts toward the luxury tax. And so if you take that 27 million and put it back into your team in the form of Sandy L Contra, as an example, you are going to the next level of luxury tax penalties, so they are not not gonna reuse that money. They're gonna keep that money and use it to pay down debt or use it to balance the books.
Starting point is 00:36:49 But it's a real pickle the Yankees are in, but it's of their own making because of the contract they signed. David, would you say that pitchers are the running backs of baseball in that way? Like they're important, but it's also, you don't wanna invest. But running backs aren't paid that way anymore.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Like they're not running backs. They've actually made the position cheaper. But I mean, I wonder in football, could you get premium running back play with shorter deals? I get what you're saying. Right? I mean, that's actually an interesting question. Take a look at a team like the Rays.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And what they do and what we try to do is we wanna bring pitchers in pre-arbitration, meaning they're making the league minimum. We want VELO pitchers who can throw 96, 98, can touch 100, and we're gonna throw them out there until their arm falls off and then cycle through and get the next one. And so that is what front offices have been asked to do
Starting point is 00:37:46 for all of these years. And you've seen that starting pitching has become less important because they're not going as many innings. Yet at the tip top of the market, it stayed where it is. But if you look at the middle class of starting pitchers, they really are being eliminated. And if you look at the middle class of bullpen arms,
Starting point is 00:38:04 they're being eliminated because the view is take guys and just cycle through them and it doesn't really matter whether or not they get hurt. It only matters when you have them long-term, which is why teams shouldn't sign the players to these type of deals. You got it Amin in the CBA. Basketball did it for the owners, I believe.
Starting point is 00:38:23 They put it in that there's a maximum number of years that you can sign a player to. Yep. Billy, is he gonna recommend, because the Marlins have Sandy cheap, is he gonna recommend that the Marlins trade Sandy now because you don't want to start signing these guys long term?
Starting point is 00:38:41 David, do you recommend that the Marlins trade Sandy now because they're not gonna sign him long term. He already is signed long term. He's in the middle of that long term contract. Sandy will be on the next contract by the time the Marlins are ready to win again for their next window. He is guaranteed to get traded,
Starting point is 00:38:59 but you get more for a starting pitcher at the deadline than you do at the beginning of the season. So while it will cost the Marlins about eight and a half million to throw Sandy every five days on a hundred lost team, it is still worth the eight and a half million because of the prospect capital, they'll get back at the deadline from a team that is winning and ready to win this particular season.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Well, that's why I guess they put out there the whole thing that they're gonna have him on any season limits, so he'll be available in October for a team, which they then went and denied that. Like earlier this week. Well, they had to, really. Yeah, Sandy said he hadn't heard that, which honestly made last year's trade so weird when they got rid of Arise, like a month into the season where you didn't have the off-season desperation of some teams the season where you didn't have the off season desperation
Starting point is 00:39:45 of some teams and then you didn't have the added desperation of the playoff teams at the deadline, which I didn't really understand the timing of that one. So position players are less valuable at the deadline and more valuable in the off season. Pitching is more valuable at the deadline, especially bullpen pitching, than it is during the off season.
Starting point is 00:40:03 So Arise is a position player, and what you had was an overaggressive general manager, an A.J. Preller, willing to do what Peter Bendix considered was an overpay, and you knew you weren't keeping Arias. There was no way to do it. So, any time you get an overpay, you're gonna pull the trigger.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Do you have a movie that you're gonna review for us, or do we knock it out? No, I have one that I wanna talk about and I really hope that some of you saw it. It's called, this is the Tom Green documentary. I was interested in it, got 10 minutes into it, saw that he was the one doing it and lost interest. Did you lose interest in the last dance after 10 minutes?
Starting point is 00:40:43 Got him. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't know if my microphone's working, but so yes, Tom Green did do this documentary about himself and it happens to be a fantastic documentary and he's not really saying that he's anyone other than who he was. He's someone who had a moment or two of fame. He is someone that now continues to actually do good work and it goes through some of his trials and tribulations.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I was enthralled and it did not matter to me that he did it because in this day and age, Dan, people are doing their own content all the time, all the players and all people are involved with their own production companies and they're really editing their own content. So I didn't find that to be as outrageous as you did. And I was totally entertained and interested.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And I went back and I did a double feature after watching the documentary. And I watched Road Trip Again, which is a movie that I assume Amin has seen, but nobody else in the room. I was gonna be a next-door in that movie. They shot it at Georgia Tech. That would have been your third movie?
Starting point is 00:41:44 I know, man. Look at the career. Got myself a little have been your third movie? I know, man. Look at the career. Got myself a little bit of a career going, but yeah, I couldn't make it. I had class. What, you had class? You're telling me you couldn't be an extra in Road Trip because you had class?
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah, I mean, I was just gonna be sick. And look where it got you. There you go. Do you guys not prefer a documentary that is made by people other than the person who is the subject of the documentary or? I think of course unless it's like really good and they have like, you know, like the last dance They had the archival footage that made it worthwhile But yeah, you know, you're gonna get a different version of the truth
Starting point is 00:42:18 but that's like also like you were talking about watching the Baldwin show like that is just a show for people to kind of like Alec Baldwin again or make him seem relatable after the situation on Rust. I really made a mistake there, Billy, by talking about that his New York City apartment wasn't big enough. He had everyone going great. And I watched the first episode,
Starting point is 00:42:40 I did not watch the second episode yet, but I can't stop, it's sort of like a train wreck, I'm watching it and I can't stop. But when he complained about the size of his New York apartment, that lost the ability to be relatable. Well, he also, like I was reading, so he bought that originally.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Wait, you have a house in East Hampton with like several different toilets, depending on what time of day it is. Or who's here? I do not have a house in East Hampton, but thank you for mentioning that. What's your toilet situation? Just so we clarify all of this. We like to call it a sitch. I have enough toilets that should I have stomach issues,
Starting point is 00:43:14 I have an opportunity to let every toilet recover. Wow. Okay. Spiritually, I was right. Sorry, Bridgehampton. I don't know where your house is, David. You've got a lot of toilets, that's my point. How many toilets do you have? Stop being evasive and just J. Cole write his own music. We need answers today, people.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I have enough toilets that I'm happy to count for you, but it's gonna be three, four, four and a half, five. What's a half toilet? You have a urinal? Wow! A half bath is when there's a half toilet? You have a urinal? Wow! A half bath is when there's a toilet but not a shower. Oh, I was hoping for the other. No one's heard that expression before?
Starting point is 00:43:51 No, yeah, but I thought we were counting toilets. But in order to count toilets, I'm counting bathrooms and then I'm calculating whether they're halves or fulls. He's got 10 bathrooms he could shit all day. That's what he's telling you. I'm just telling you that I have some stomach issues and I've got a level of anxiety that leads to stomach issues. I don't stress eat, I'm the opposite of that.
Starting point is 00:44:09 And I just had the conversation with Coca today. I said, what do I do if during the live show I have to use the bathroom? Because I've had some emergencies happen during the course of Nothing Personal and he said the show goes on, wear a diaper if you have to. That's such a fear of mine. I know it's like a ridiculous fear,
Starting point is 00:44:26 but like I used to think about that all the time when we were on 790, like if I was doing a show and I just have like some sort of stomach issue and we have like a three minute break, I'm in really bad, I'm in really bad trouble. You know what I mean? Like if I was hosting the show and I just had to have a bathroom emergency, I don't think I could do a live show for that very reason.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Also, David, we live in a time where everything's wireless, man. Just grab and take it to the bathroom. See, Brent, grab this thing, the camera's on top of it, sit it down, bring the microphone, hold it right here. And then kind of... I've got the greatest metal arc set up of all time. It's a camera.
Starting point is 00:44:59 It's a toilet that you're sitting on. You can't move this stuff to the bathroom. Billy, you're on a live show right now. Samson, thank you for being on, you can't move this stuff to the bathroom. Uh, Billy, you're on a live show right now. Uh, Samson, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it. Take us. Hey friends, it's JerroBear here and I'm here to tell you all about boost mobile, which is now a legit nationwide 5g network.
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