The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: What If That Wasn't Tyreek Hill?

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

Drew Rosenhaus sticks around to finish our conversation on Sunday's detainment of Tyreek Hill just before the Miami Dolphins first game of the season. He shares what happened as things settled down, h...ow the Dolphins security reacted, the discipline he'd like to see regarding the officers, whether or not there will be litigation, and what Hill plans to do in conjunction with the Miami Police Department to make sure incidents like this one don't continue to happen. Then, Dan and the crew continue their discussion on the reaction in the aftermath of the incident and why the body cam footage matters toward the future of policing. Plus, Billy has words for Dolphins Kicker Jason Sanders despite the fact that Sanders hit a game-winning field goal on Sunday. Also, how is Greg going to celebrate his birthday when he gets home after the show? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:04 Cuervo, now's a good time. Trademarks owned by Bekle. SAB, the CV. Copyright 2024. Proximo. Jersey City, New Jersey. Please drink responsibly. Welcome to the Big Sui! Presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? A podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcasts. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this show. The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.
Starting point is 00:01:26 In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. Drew, in the aftermath of this, when everything was settling down at the scene and you were perhaps in the company of the police officers, did you hear anything from them that sounded like apology or regret or we overreacted or we didn't know who was anything like that right i can tell you that the uh... dot security which is made up of either
Starting point is 00:02:09 retired police officers are off duty police officers uh... were just uh... appalled by the way to every was treated i was at monday night football last night in san francisco and i can tell you how many of the police officers there came up to me and said, hey, this isn't how we do things. This is not something we're proud of. This is not the norm. These guys were way out of line.
Starting point is 00:02:39 But none of the police officers involved there showed any remorse or were apologetic. But our goal is to make sure that they are in the near future, that they are disciplined for the people, the police officers there that kicked him, that put him in a choke hold, that ripped him out of the car, that threw him on the ground, that put their knee on him. the car, that threw them on the ground, that put their knee on them. We want those officers to be disciplined and to make sure that they never do that again to anybody else who doesn't actually deserve that type of treatment. What is the discipline you want? For me personally, I think that police officers They did that to Tyree shouldn't
Starting point is 00:03:25 be in that position. They should be let go. Look at the guy that just kicked him right there. That guy should be fired. That's out of control. The guy that they jumped in, put him in a chokehold.
Starting point is 00:03:37 There's no place for a police officer to have a badge that operates like that when Tyree wasn't being aggressive or violent or fighting back in any capacity. Well, you know, that was horrendous how they treated him. They didn't treat him like a human being. There's no place for police officers to be on the force. Drew, I agree with that. Does Tyreek agree with you though? Of course. He wants them fired. He thinks they should be fired?
Starting point is 00:04:09 Well, I'll let Tyreek speak to that. That's that's my opinion. He and I have not had that specific discussion, but certainly I would recommend to Tyreek and the legal team that that's something that we pursue. You know, I think he deserves an apology from each and every one of those police officers involved and the ones that abuse their authority and power should not be on the force, in my opinion, moving forward.
Starting point is 00:04:35 What do you say to anyone who says that Tyreek Hill has to initially be more submissive in that spot and just simply follow orders regarding his window based upon my discussions with Tyreek and the video and everything that I've seen that's Very clear that Tyreek was submissive that he was cooperating And to the extent that the police officers didn't feel that he was, his conduct by no means warranted the extreme reaction that they did. I mean, there's, look at it. I mean, his conversation there, what do I have to do? Give me a ticket. I mean, he's a human being.
Starting point is 00:05:20 He has the right to have these discussions. And, you. And to me, again, Tariq is human. You don't have to be perfect when you're dealing with the police to not get arrested. I mean, at the end of the day, they yank him out of the car. It's absolutely, he's got rights he's trying to get a hold of the team security director myself and look at this they re-encome out of the car throw him down I mean for what have a little bit of patience what does it take a minute or two to communicate he's obviously not a threat there There's no instance. You got to put your knee on his hand right there.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Tyree's been dealing with a wrist injury, a sore knee. This guy right there, that's just unnecessary. He's not fighting back. And then they harassed him. They caught him a crybaby. Look at Tyree. He just said, I had surgery on my knee he had a procedure he had some injections to soft season PRP and this is how they treat a guy I mean what if it wasn't a world-class athlete and here's my client he's on the phone with me they're beating on Tyreek I'm on the other line there and they're about to arrest him.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I mean that's absolutely, have a little bit of awareness. These are Dauphin players that are trying to do their job or at the stadium. Your police officer John who's trying to calm the situation down and so is Kaleus. You don't have the poise as a police officer to recognize that it's Tyree Kill and Kaleiis Campbell. How about a little bit of communication? What happened? We can't just talk things out. You got to suddenly throw a black athlete or a black person in a nice car. You got to throw him to the ground and beat on him that's absurd Drew you know South Florida you know Miami they want the answer to one
Starting point is 00:07:30 question is the you back? The answer is yes. They are loaded. This is a talented football team and they're gonna have a great season. All right. Drew, good seeing you under weird circumstances. Thank you, sir. Appreciate the time. I know you're very busy right now. Take care, guys. Thank you, Drew. What are we to do with the statement from the Miami Dolphins?
Starting point is 00:07:57 Quote, we are saddened by the overly aggressive and violent conduct directed toward our players by police officers before yesterday's game. It is both maddening and heartbreaking to watch the very people we trust to protect our community use such unnecessary force and hostility toward these players. Yet it's also a reminder that not every situation like this ends in peace, as we are grateful this one did.
Starting point is 00:08:18 What if I wasn't Tyreek Hill is a question that will carry with resounding impact. We are proud to have a strong and positive relationship with the Miami-Dade Police Department and other law enforcement agencies and recognize that the vast majority of officers do serve the community with the utmost character and desire to protect all citizens. However, as is on full display in the videos released tonight, there are some officers who make their, who mistake their responsibility and commitment to serve with misguided power. While we commend MDPD for taking the right and necessary action to quickly release this footage,
Starting point is 00:08:49 we also urge them to take equally swift and strong action against the officers who engaged in such despicable behavior. This is going to now escalate when you get the team and the agent and litigation demanding discipline. Like it's not, it can be a more peaceful resolution, but the demand for discipline from these entities will force discipline.
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Starting point is 00:11:33 There is actually. What? Were you not going to tell anyone? In what day? You guys, guys, it's a Tuesday. Stu Gatz! Here's your guide, Greg Cody, with Back in My Day. ["Back in My Day"]
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Starting point is 00:12:24 Good luck. He just heard a rejoin, when he heard the back in my day music. He said wait a minute We're doing that now. Yeah, I mean it's understandable. I heard that tinkling piano, which is my intro I'm scram. I was scrambling right but Dan hadn't said a word yet. You didn't realize it was a rejoin Happy birthday to you. It is funny that you still don't know after all these years what we're doing, when we're doing it. That last segment, Stu Gotz, it was finished, and Stu Gotz, who sees money, greed, opportunity, and every crevice, went out and had to smoke a cigarette
Starting point is 00:12:59 because he came back and said, man, that's good for Drew's business. All of it. If he'd gotten in there and gotten arrested, the security guy for the Dolphins also being named Drew so that everyone thinks that, so that every client in the NFL thinks that when Tyreek Hill is getting arrested and is in fear, the first person he has to call is his agent. Imagine having an agent that's willing to get arrested with you or for you. That is good for business.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I mean, is it not? Am I wrong? You both think that Drew's enjoying all of this. And I don't know if you're wrong. Part of me believes that he's a little jealous he didn't get arrested too. What an image to show clients. I will go to bat for you.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yes. You know, there is a working theory here at the office yesterday that was brought up by two different people and I'm not sure if it's something we should go to air with or not, but I'll bring it to you and then you guys tell me. It's a good thing we're not live on air. Well, you tell me if you think we should
Starting point is 00:13:59 take it to air or not. All right. So after Jeff Darlington was on and we started kind of putting things together and noticing Jeff Darlington is always where the Athletes are getting arrested. There's a theory floated out there by not one but two Production members who said maybe Jeff Darlington's making the call Wow Inside job it does kind of make you wonder how is he there and you can control if you're there if you're someone that's
Starting point is 00:14:26 Say a whistleblower of sorts, but if you're someone that's alerting people, you know, you're gonna be there Let's not go to air with okay I feel a little like he making light about this like that video is really really really tough to watch It's pretty horrible. What happened? Oh you say it's really really tough to watch. It's pretty horrible what happened. Oh, you say it's really, really tough to watch, and I say, yes, it's appalling, but also not surprising in any way. Like, it's how I imagined it going. Before I had any information at all
Starting point is 00:14:59 on this other than Tyreek Hill has been arrested outside the stadium, that confirms what I already believed without any details now that I have the details. It's it's one of the things that's sort of startling to me while not being numbing that that's not surprising to me even as it's appalling. I think the thing that I'm surprised at is that they released the body cam footage this easily. I don't know Greg Greg, if you know the legal route
Starting point is 00:15:27 that maybe they would have had to go to if they didn't put this out right away, but I was surprised because it seemed like right off the bat they did not want this footage out there. But Jessica, I do believe that what happened here, the police have to behave here because everybody was watching. We all got there before the cover-up could
Starting point is 00:15:46 happen and it's the worst place they could have done this it's surrounded by dolphin fans like there there is no move after this where you'd you'll you'll lock in and it's like cold blue we're not saying anything you can't have look the police have plenty of power in this market but so do the dolphins like this isn't them going up against an individual this is a statement being
Starting point is 00:16:11 released by the dolphins that's as strong as any sports statement that's been made in this town since pat riley told danny aides to shut the fuck up but true or false that this uh... body cam footage is all is way, way worse than any of the snippets of videos that fans took before the game. A thousand percent. People were saying, we got to wait for more details. And then the details that we got in the body cam footage solidified a lot of people's fears.
Starting point is 00:16:37 This is the thing though, the Dolphin security staff is all ex-cops. Like the people, you have to understand what a powerful thing the police just went up against here. The Dolphins will sniff this out and your body cam footage will be released whether you want it released or not. So transparency is the way you have to go. It's why the Dolphins are saying, what if it weren't Tyree Kill? The truth gets out into the light because it's Tyreek Hill. That's one of the interesting things surrounding all this. The Dolphins invoked something that's basically become a meme on the internet.
Starting point is 00:17:15 What if his name wasn't Tyreek Hill? That's coming from a lot of people surrounding the NFL and a lot of people who I remember their stances on Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick, his whole deal, was telling you, what if it isn't Tyreek Hill? And look at how that was received, and look at how this is received. It's quite differently. Tyreek Hill now finds himself with a ton of public allies where Colin Kaepernick did not. This, a scene like that has to come out every single time. It always has to be shown because it's instructive and it's educational because there's millions
Starting point is 00:17:53 of white people like me who've never suffered that kind of prejudice and that kind of treatment in a traffic stop. And to see a young black guy driving a $200,000 car be put through what he went through, even if he was speeding, is just instructive. White people everywhere have to realize that black people go through some of this prejudice and some of this freedom. And a lot worse. It's also white Hispanics. Look, I've been pulled over a couple times by police here. It's never been an enjoyable experience despite hands on ten and two
Starting point is 00:18:29 being as respectful as possible. The treatment from my experience, speaking direct to my experience with law enforcement officials, they're never really super kind to me. And I have to be ultra nice for things. I'm the one in this situation that has to deescalate when they're the ones apparently trained in this. We can we can talk about personal experiences although I'd really don't want to I too was arrested for
Starting point is 00:18:53 sarcasm the thing that I would ask you guys though is legitimately are you allowed to be surprised by this because it feels like if you're surprised by this video you have not been paying attention at all to what's been happening in america as we head to another voting cycle like i really ask the question sincerely are you a lot like and white people like they've ran to the capernic they ran out of the league like for saying hey white people i don't know how surprised you're allowed to be by this video because Rodney King was a long time ago like the the lessons of Rodney King. What's it? What is that? It's that late 80s?
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah early 90s. It's we should also outline. It's not just white people's law enforcement officials There's a prejudice with law enforcement officials in this this video, from what we can tell, mostly Hispanic police officers. There is a huge issue with policing in this country. There's a huge issue with policing in Miami-Dade County. And I'm hopeful this will bring about change. But it's worse than it's ever been. If you're following Because Miami, you know that as soon as we got a police chief who wanted to clean it up, they ran him right out of
Starting point is 00:20:07 here. It has to be the most corrupt thing there is in policing. The police we have here, when someone gets here with a reputation of I'll fix it, starts to fix it and they run him out quickly because we're ahead of the rest of the United States on the bad shit that happens down here. Seeds of progress though, Dan. This goes totally different five years ago. We don't have body cams five years ago. Or I was happy to learn that the body cams were on because that's also something in many high profile instances of police, alleged police abuse. But they had no idea. One of the defaults is we don't have our body cams on so there have been growing pains along the way And as sad as this video is it does mark some progress
Starting point is 00:20:51 Man that's a minimum progress. Yeah. Yeah, but it's you're You're asking you're asking a change a lot. Okay, but I'm tired of baby steps here Come on like to salute what I just saw is some sort of progress No, it's saluting it but it baby step or not there is progress over the last five years in that we have now a video and the system isn't going to protect itself and just Just line in this one If it happens to happen in an unprecedented fashion to a dolphin outside a stadium Mike if they knew it was to retail when they
Starting point is 00:21:26 Approached the car do you think the body cams are on do you still think they're on? I'm man. I don't I don't know It's a fair question. I don't know I don't know enough about it I just know other instances in which body cams cops did have body cams and the body cams weren't on Conveniently enough we still don't even know if these people are going to get punished or not though right like I think one of them is on administrative leave but that we don't know what the repercussions will be and generally there aren't very many. Well I think though I let's think let's think about this for a second because I think this set of ingredients guarantees it because what I'm telling you about the Dolphins and who they have
Starting point is 00:22:07 in security make it so if Tyreek Hill wishes to actually de-escalate it from here he can by saying it's not what he wants but once we get into Tyreek Hill the Dolphins and Drew Rosenhouse pushing the full force of momentum of this is what I want, it becomes something, I guess I would hesitate to guarantee it only because of how much malfeasance I have seen police officers get away with over time where I think punishment would be obvious. But rarely are they going up against something
Starting point is 00:22:43 that is just as powerful as they are, the way that they're going up against it in This one instance I thought you guys you three did an exceptional job interviewing drew who certainly came to this interview with an agenda had his scripted plays At the top and then by the end of it he was addressing the the possibility of suing these officers and and already kind of Speaking out some of the damages that had already happened. So that was a really good job. I didn't arrive at they're going to suffer penalty
Starting point is 00:23:10 until the later part of that interview where I'm like, oh, they're seeking like legitimate discipline here. Potentially. Professionally though, the system generally protects these guys. And it doesn't make headlines, but a lot of these people become contractors or or find themselves in a related security field often hired by the the police forces that they're
Starting point is 00:23:29 suspended from the they may end up with a dolphins I doubt I think this one would rule these officers out with the dolphins but the system generally protects these these these individuals, from all appearances, abuse their power. The only thing about this whole thing that truly surprises me is that Tyreek Hill was not recognized right away and didn't have a police officer pat him on the back, say, have a good game, and maybe ask for a selfie with him. It's outrageous that they knew who this guy was. Don't get me wrong, they didn't know originally. But eventually they did and preferential treatment is not beyond the police just like abuse of power isn't.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Tyreek has seen the value in being Tyreek Hill in plenty of brushes with law enforcement and allegations. I mean he's seen the benefit of that and it's been a pretty, this just adds to what has already kind of been a weird and tumultuous off season for Tyreek Hill. I think it was pretty telling. It was one little snippet and it was hard to pick up. I'm gonna use the F word here so let's mark it. But like when they get the license and they present it to that officer
Starting point is 00:24:36 and the officer says in one word, everything you need to know. They keep moving on but right then and there, after they treated Tyreke and his teammates a certain way, they find out that information and they don't really have sympathy for their actions leading up to that point. They feel bad because they just realized, damn it, this is going to come back to our bosses, we just did this to a Miami Dolphin player.
Starting point is 00:24:59 The truth is about to come out is what that realization is in a single word, that there's not gonna be a way to slither around the truth getting out in front of everybody because, honest to God, it is the safest place. Tyreke Hill's home has been on fire. Tyreke Hill is not necessarily safe at home. Didn't something happen in his backyard as well? With an influencer that went down with a knee injury? Yeah, like, he is not necessarily safe at home. Something, didn't something happen in his backyard as well?
Starting point is 00:25:25 With an influencer that went down with an injury. Yeah, like this, he is not just merely, Stugatz, it's not merely that it's Sunday, it's right before the game, and it's the stadium. It's that the entire Dolphin headquarters is adjacent to that stadium. Like, there is no place that they could do this. The idea that this has arrived in Miami
Starting point is 00:25:49 as the Kaepernick extending, echoing story, that it would land literally and physically at their doorstep, and now the Dolphins have to fight for their own against a police force that has that is going to get pushed around on where the truth resides because it's going to be so impossible to cover this up when everyone's seen it. When you asked are we allowed to be surprised I think people would say the only thing they're surprised about is those cops who they're there to protect
Starting point is 00:26:24 people who are going just the dolphins best player this is the guy very recently voted the number one player in the entire nfl that footage we walk we watched is equivalent he can you imagine if lebron james is the one down on the pavement being cuffed or patrick mahomes i'm not he's not that he's not the biggest star in the league he might be ranked on my marriage i think a star that he and i i agree but but but stature wise uh... he is a superstar and i thought that's not really relevant no one should be treated that way oh you're right but but that's why this is such a
Starting point is 00:27:17 big deal to me that's why two days before they're playing the buffalo bills in what will probably be their biggest game of the season we're still talking about tyreek kill because it is that big a deal the beginning of the year is serving of all because he's famous so it's the action it's not the same as i said in the middle of the action both it's both if if he were a guy who worked at a clerk as a clerk in a seven eleven
Starting point is 00:27:40 uh... the the the the footage would be just as alarming and just as bad but it wouldn't be getting this kind of attention. It's what happened and it's to whom it happened. Darrell Bock So you're saying if it had happened with Billy's personal nemesis on the Dolphins. You're saying – Michael Lutz Jason Sanders?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Darrell Bock If it had been Sanders – Michael Lutz Braxton Berrios? Darrell Bock No, Sanders. If it had been the kicker of the – Michael Lutz Braxton Berrios? That's my deal then. Darrell Bock Why is that the nemesis of – Michael Lutz I'm just saying, like I imagine Braxton barrios knows and there's a very very very very very very very very why is that the nemesis of i'm just saying like a man i imagine braxton barrios getting pulled over any signing autographs and i don't have to send them a sense of billy is jason
Starting point is 00:28:13 said that he's still going after him on god bless football let's get the video and audio of billy still has his i even after one and no start still has his eye on after a one and oh start still has his eye on Jason Sanders those but that's a jam that that damn Jason Sanders and don't get me started on him the Dolphins kicker because the Dolphins should have covered that game they didn't because he missed another kick I don't know why he's still on his team no we don't need to get into that Billy he kicked the game winner yeah he kicked the game winner and they needed it because he missed a kick earlier an
Starting point is 00:28:41 easy like 42 year I I'm not gonna say I can kick a 42 yarder because I'm not an NFL kicker, but there's plenty of people that can. They do it on game day. They get like high school kids out of the crowd and they do it on game day. Get out of here. What was the game winner? How long was that?
Starting point is 00:28:54 Irrelevant. It's not. I think it was shorter. That was long. It was long. It was a 50 plus yarder. Irrelevant though. Yeah, irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Hit him during the game. We can't continue with this guy. We cannot continue with this guy in missing kicks. He just won you a game. That he almost lost. Right. You don't get credit. Billy's been holding onto this for a full season.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I'm not. No, I know he's always had his eyes. Last year he had the same beat. This feels pent up. Listen, it's an odd guy to keep his eye on. Preseason and preseason is happening too. Someone needs to. I don't know what McDaniel's up to
Starting point is 00:29:21 that he's not paying attention, but if I have to be the guy paying attention to him, I will be. We're not getting into this today. We will waste the entire segment talking about this. Let's not do this. Cowboys got a kicker like off the street last year. Brandon Aubrey.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Brandon Aubrey. Who has been incredible. Who by the way, hit a 66 yarder yesterday that was negated by an offensive penalty headed into the half. Rare is the day we criticize the field goal kicker after he hits a game-winning 52-yard field goal. I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:50 No, no, no. That guy gets 10 years usually. No, no. Ju-Ju, put it on the poll, please, at Levitard Show. Is it the same controversy if Jason Sanders had been the one arrested? They shouldn't have treated Jason Sanders that way either. But if you missed the game.
Starting point is 00:30:09 They shouldn't treat him more OK with him getting arrested? No, no one should be treated that way. But the answer to your question is no, right? I mean, you. No, I will acknowledge, of course, I will acknowledge that the fame of the person involved has something to do with it But the action to me is larger than whatever the reaction how Sanders still on this team
Starting point is 00:30:31 Not to do this now and try to derail it. Yeah, let's not why is he still on this? Do you want them the game he almost lost in the game enough with that? He won them. He missed a chippy Thank you. Thank you, Dan. Thank you, but and the one that matter all for his firing No, it only mattered because he missed the other one. He set himself up. He blew a save to get himself a win. That's not how this works. He set the house on fire in order to put out the fire.
Starting point is 00:30:54 He did in the preseason also. This guy's going to cost him when it matters. You guys keep forgetting that. Guys, eyes on the prize. You need to do it all the time. Just saying, oh, it's week one, oh, then he hit a 50 to win it. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:31:08 We need consistency. Yeah, we need a consistency. That's something. No. Jessica, why do you look so sad? I mean, I wonder why. She heard Jason Sanders' name. That's what it was.
Starting point is 00:31:20 You know what it is right now though, Billy? I was watching the end of the Dolphins Jaguars game with my sister and my brother-in-law who are basically like The equivalent to aliens from outer space when it comes to knowing anything about sports And I was trying to act like I I knew like I had some insight and I was like he's not gonna make this because I've heard You guys shit on this guy all the time. It's not you guys Everybody's saying you walk around the street people pull me aside. They say Jason Sanders. Chris?
Starting point is 00:31:46 I'm pro Jason Sanders. It's just Billy. But dolphin fans don't trust him. They shouldn't. Well, I think I could say that. Sometimes I walk down the street and people say, are you wearing a Marlin's hat? And I say, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:56 And they go, oh, don't the dolphins play in that same city? I'm like, yeah. And they're like, that Jason Sanders, isn't he really bad at kicking? I'm like, yeah. How'd you know? No one has ever said that. Louis just told me that the whole control room hates him.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And they're all dolphin fans. I'll admit that he has bad at kicking? I'm like, yeah, how'd you know? No one has ever said that. Louis just told me that the whole control room hates him. And they're all Dolphins fans. I'll admit that he has bad misses on his resume, but he's one of these kickers that you can't fully trust him, but he's a good kicker. Whoa! I mean, what happened there? What is that? He is.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Anyways, I go, he's gonna miss this, and then he drills it, and the whole bar is cheering, and I'm like, f***. He missed it earlier, he missed it earlier. That was a long one for him. To his credit, I think he's like six of six now on like 50 plus yard field goals in like game winning situations.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah. It's the other ones, he just seems unfocused or something. I don't know what his deal is. So you could sum me on this, you have two kickers. One who handles everything inside of 50 yards and Jason Sanders who comes in for the long ones. That's fine, he could be the kicking closer but we need like a kicking middle reliever or something.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Cause this guy between the first quarter and the fourth quarter is a nightmare. I give Billy credit for zigging when others zag. Who? For timing his criticism of the place kicker right after he has kicked a game winning field goal. Anybody can criticize him after he's the goat of a game. Thank you, Greg. It takes a man's man to criticize after a game winning field goal. Anybody can criticize him after he's the goat of a game. Thank you Greg. It takes a man's man to criticize after a game-winning
Starting point is 00:33:08 field goal. Or a woman's woman. Exactly. As the case may be. No discrimination. Thank you for the clarification. Kick, save, and abute. Well which would it be? Like why is it a man's man or a woman's woman? It can be either. Either or. Why does it have to be one or the other Dan? Well he made it man's man and then it seems like he just corrected it to woman's woman And I don't feel like I've ever heard that phrase before. No, I just made it up. Greg how's your birthday going so far? It's going fantastic My wife and I are staying home tonight. We're watching the the debate on TV. We're gonna want to do something special for dinner
Starting point is 00:33:40 It's a it's a nice day for me so far You're watching the debate? That sounds like a not a super nice night the debate old people love that shit. Yeah That's exactly right. Yeah, that's exactly right old people do love that You think a wonderful way to celebrate your 70th birthday Happy birthday to him I don't care Good luck
Starting point is 00:34:12 Is to romantically get together with your wife, settle in around a presidential debate that promises to be horrifying because at least one of the participants has settled into deep into dementia. Yes, yeah, but only one. At least one. Hell yeah. At least one. Improvement. No, she and I had the romantic nice dinner a few nights ago and now last night we go out the damn I can't watch the Monday night football game on my own TV because of this Netflix thing. So We went on direct TV. What do you mean? What do you mean? Watch what do you what's happening? He has direct TV obviously. Yeah, right. Yeah, and we found out why'd you mention Netflix? I don't know potato potato
Starting point is 00:34:59 You don't know how to find the football game or you do not have a that can bring you e s p and tonight well what happened was this is embarrassing to admit uh... my wife and i are watching the first half in a local on the restaurant uh... and the game is on and we figure out actually she figured out how did i didn't that the whole time the game was on a bc correct way in and she's thinking it wasn't she's thinking that because of this strike
Starting point is 00:35:26 or whatever the conflict is, that we couldn't watch the game at home. But you're looking for it on Netflix? Wherever she finds it. Right. You know, she does all the channels and everything. To him, all streaming is Netflix. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:38 No, I mean, I just, you know, four, seven and 10. You know, let's get back to simple channels. That makes sense. Did you go out for dinner so you could see the game because you couldn't get it at home? Yes. I had to tell my wife the same thing, hey, it's on ABC.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Oh dear God. I know, but we didn't figure it out in time. So you couldn't, wait a minute, Monday Night Football, tonight, you're gonna go looking for it on Netflix? No, I misspoke when I said Netflix. I was gonna go looking for it on wherever it is that's feuding in this, you know, back and forth between the two entities. You know, I don't keep track of all that. Okay, I'm
Starting point is 00:36:13 sorry, so Monday Night Football last night is what I meant. Yeah, last night. You just could not find it. We found it in a local bar. You often find happiness in a local bar, don't you? And later, we found out that we could have been home all the time. Put it on the poll please, Juju. Do you often find happiness in a local bar? At Letbet Tarts? Did you stay till like 11.45 when it ended?
Starting point is 00:36:38 No, we just stayed to watch the first half. And then we came home and she went to bed and I stayed up for the whole game because I don't don't want to complain and I don't want to bitch about fantasy you know if you're not into fantasy football you don't want to hear this but I needed ten points from the 49ers defense to win that game got it and no I had it and then in the last minute Tyrod Taylor he'll do that to you garbage time is throwing a touchdown pass and costing me the victory.
Starting point is 00:37:09 It's an outrage. Garbage time. They shouldn't even allow those useless points in fantasy. I should have won that game. I may protest it to my league. Miami PD just sent out a tweet at 10 a.m. which suggests this was a scheduled tweet with an image there Billy that plays on Fast and the Furious that says going fast puts lives on the line. Speeding is much more than breaking the law.
Starting point is 00:37:34 The consequences, greater potential for loss of vehicle control, increased stopping distance, increased degree of crash severity. Well help me with what is going to happen next here. Are there indeed, because I've seen this but I don't know how valid the reports are, in watching how people are reacting to getting behind the police here on that video, I remind you again, the divisions in America run deep here. I have seen people who will politicize anything
Starting point is 00:38:06 already say he was driving 100 miles an hour. And so I don't know what's true. Jonathan Isaac of the Orlando Magic, always a good faith commenter, has come out in support of the police officers saying this video should be shown how black men should not be treating the police. I don't know what is true and what's not true
Starting point is 00:38:25 on this side of things, but the police, if they're going to defend themselves against Drew, Rosenhaus, Tyreek Hill, and that Miami Dolphins statement, and they're going to choose division, because Drew came on here, Rosenhaus came on here, talking about not escalating it but it gets escalated when you're talking about we want those officers discipline
Starting point is 00:38:53 and if the police get their backup and decide we're gonna start are part of the campaign now and it's true that he was driving a hundred miles an, which I've not seen verified anywhere. But Drew and Tyreek Hill are saying, I did nothing wrong. I regret nothing. I would like to know what the truth is there before it gets politicized.
Starting point is 00:39:16 In the body cam footage, it's still unclear as to what the offense was from Tyreek Hill. I was actually hoping for some clarity on that. And Tyreek asked, kind of, and we don't really get an answer, so I'm not exactly sure what still caused all this. Drew did make a good point when he said, if you've been around that stadium at that time, right before a game on University Drive, essentially, it's impossible to get your car to 100 miles per hour.
Starting point is 00:39:38 It's not easy around there. It is a crowded area, but not as crowded at 10 AM. Yeah. I think it's important to note that he was ticketed for reckless driving and speeding and I have heard no one Including Drew Rosenhouse dispute that and say we're not gonna pay those fines. We're not gonna pay a ticket He shouldn't have gotten that speeding ticket. The whole issue is what happened afterward Okay, not that he was speeding and was ticketed for it, but what happened afterward where all of a sudden he's face first on the asphalt being cuffed behind his
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