The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: What's The Omni Ever Done? (feat. Dianna Russini)

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

"Wow, I'd like to be arrogant, but I'm not." Dianna joins us from the NFL Owners Meetings, and since she forgot her headphones, she's getting dirty looks as the show peppers her with questions around the NFL, even if admittedly there are a few too many Dolphins questions. And as we finally get to the NBA on NBC with Michael Jordan, Amin wants credit for the way Carmelo Anthony was dressed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the big suey, presented by Draft Kings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it.

And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habit. Pitch you a liar. This episode of the Dan Levitart show is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. Diana Rusini is coming to us from a hotel lobby in Manhattan at the owner's meeting. She looks like an intrepid reporter right now. Zaslow and Cody have spent the entire break arguing about whether or not the... I won that argument.

Whether or not the dolphins quit or not on Sunday. I am really wondering what the score would have been if they had quit. Like everyone looked at the scoreboard when they saw Cleveland 1-31-6, they did not watch the game, they're like, oh, that was a team that wasn't trying on the other side, if that's what happened at Cleveland. But we'll have Diana settled this for us. As incidentally, RG3 says on the Dan Patrick show that the Miami Dolphins need to blow it all up. They need to fire McDaniel and they need to get rid of Tua, too. And Bill Cowher and others are saying, yeah, the dolphins quit on Sunday.

Your assessment here, Diana? Yeah, I think we all saw it. I don't think anyone watched that game and thought that Mike McDaniel even wanted to be out there in the rain and in the cold, he looked miserable, just being the head coach. So we'll just start with him on the sideline and obviously the ridiculous sunglasses. And he just looks like for a coach that I think had so much potential and is still a really bright guy, he just looks like it's spinning a little bit out of his control, maybe not even a little bit.

I think a lot of it. I think the pressure of all this is mounting and the players are unfortunately left with a lot of questions and not getting a lot of answers. They will tell you over and over Miami and the people I talk to there, they're trying to figure it out. They're trying to get the right people leading these meetings. The name Anthony Weaver, the defensive coordinator's name has come up. He's come up in league circles for the last few seasons as somebody that is a leader of men. And to me, that's just what the dappins look like they need right now. I understand what they're doing here, right? I talked to some people on Monday after that game about, all right, making changes, right?

what do we got? Well, you know, when are you guys going to fire Mike? Just give us a heads up. And they continue to say the same thing, which is we're not doing it because ownership believes that he can still continue to turn this around. That's obviously Stephen Ross's opinion, and we all have varied ones. Deshawn Watson is the worst contract in the league. Is Tua's second worst? Who's second worst? What's the second worst contract in the league? I mean, Tua's up there. I think Trevor Lawrence gets thrown in there a lot when you talk about bad deals. Look, I understand what the dolphins were doing with Tua.

And when they did it, I don't think any of us from a salary standpoint were really criticizing it that much. I know I wasn't. I thought it was a fair deal for him. And if you remember at the time, the concern was less about his play and more about the injuries, right? It was more about whether or not he could stay healthy on the field and was this really worth the risk, which is why I had always thought that for my, like, Chris Greer and this organization needed to make sure no matter what happens, no matter how much they're paying their starter, they better have a really good backup plan in place.

And guys, the theme of this season more than ever, more than ever, and nobody wants to hear it because it's boring. But the teams that are doing well have quarterbacks that are part of good programs with good coaching and good support. And at one point, I would have said the dolphins were one of them. At one point, I believed in what Mike McDaniel and Tua, we're building. And this has really veered into a territory now where it seems like there is no hope left, that they really can't turn this around, despite the fact that ownership.

Everyone did believe, though, Diana. Everyone believed like you did when they were at the top of the offensive power ratings. Like, that's where the belief came from. We saw Tua be better than any of us thought that he was. Exactly. But there is a major disconnect between Tua and his coach. That is quite obvious. They're literally. doing it publicly. What did we really expect, though, on Sunday? And I'm calling myself on that out on that as well. I do not go into that game going, oh, yeah, the dolphins, they'll get through this. I mean, I criticize the Eagles left and right because of their drama. And you can do it and know that they're still going to perform because they're that good and they've got the right

leaders. That is not Miami at all. And I don't understand. Look, I will never be one to sit up here and go, Yes, change is needed, fire coaches in season. But when it starts to look like this, when you're losing the locker room and you're losing effort, just basic effort, I don't know how they can just be okay with it. And I was here listening to you guys talk about ownership before. And for those that are watching the show right now, you can see I'm sitting in a hallway. I'm literally at the owner's meeting in Midtown Manhattan right now where all the owners are upstairs, including Stephen Ross, having just mandatory meetings that they do every. fall. That's a side entrance of a hotel if I've ever seen it.

For real. It really, this is a shady one. Diane, are you sitting down too? People are walking by and they're way taller than you. Are you sitting down? Looks like a court room. Yeah, I'm like on a chair. Oh, imagine that sad chair.

I was going to ask you travel with that chair. Do you like a true like, like, do the fake elevator bit. That's funny. I sat. Most of the owners would be that height anyway. They're not like. You can sit down. Don't worry about it.

I'll sit down. So, which by the way, small observation that I make because this is so bizarre what I'm doing. So for those that don't know, what I do is I'm sitting in a lobby while the owners are meeting. And then when they break, they're going to come down, maybe get some water, have some food. Some of them are going to leave. And there's no set up interviews. Nobody's saying, okay, Stephen Ross, you're now going to sit with the athletics, Diana Rossini. He's just walking. And I then have to go chase him. and ask him for an interview, which I will be doing right after we talk here to see what is the direction of this organization. So it's a little bit of a weird scenario and a weird situation because they don't want to talk to you. I don't really want to talk to them, but I have a job. And this just happens all afternoon. So this is kind of, you guys are catching me at the perfect time because they're meeting. So I'm not really missing anything. But, you know, the bigger, wow, you're right, I really look small.

People look gigantic behind that. He looks so tiny. These are league office people. They're very important. Ask them if they think the dolphins quit. Cody, what do you have for Diana? Diana, everybody says the dolphins quit. You just refer to them.

You just refer to them having a lack of effort. When you say things like they quit or they didn't show effort, is the final score always enough or do you need evidence on the field? I'm wondering what you saw in that game on the field from Miami that, that told you they quit. Who did you see with a lack of effort in that game? I don't even think it's about Miami as much as it's about the Browns. Like if you're going into Cleveland and you're not even able to put up a decent fight against an okay team that, you know, outside of their defense, which is exceptional.

Like I think, I think we can all agree that they're the best part of the Browns is why they're able to even stay alive. But you're talking about Dylan Gabriel is the quarterback, a lot? rookie who I didn't know that much about him coming into the draft, right? So, look, I want to believe in Mike. And every time he steps up to the podium, pointing the finger in himself, I mean, they're actually all pointing a finger at each other. But why did we expect effort? Like, did you think that performance was filled with a bunch of disciplined players that came in with a really good game plan that were going to lean into the skill sets that they have, which we could probably do a whole segment of what are the Miami Dolphins good at right now?

I don't know. Greg, what would the score have to have been for you to concede? And I'm not, again, I'm not saying they quit. I'm just asking you what. I feel, Greg, I feel like you're trying to say that you think that my opinion that they weren't making effort is wrong, that that was just bad football, that they were trying, but they just are not very good. Yeah, you just think they're bad.

Of course, I think there was effort in that game. I think it was a bad team losing to a bad team, a bad team beating an even worse team. I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm anybody who says, ah, they quit. Anybody who says that was a lack of effort by that team. I always say, what on the field, beyond the final score, what on the field did you see? What player on the field did you see quitting? Now, when Jimmy Butler was almost leaving the heat, there were,

analytics that showed Jimmy Buffett. Yeah, but yeah, you want an example of like, you know, a corner just giving up and not even attempting to make a tackle or no, no, I don't, I don't think we're at that part of the season where guys know that it's done and they're just, they're just, you know, you hear this all the time where guys in the locker room will tell you like, you know, no one was even trying because they don't want to get hurt. This one's a contract year. He's not willing to take a risk. Hello. No, it's okay. Did they offer you something? What was that?

Is that Mr. Ross? I mean, what did you have for Diana? Well, it just seems to be that the dolphins. Dolphins time. Yeah, about five minutes passed on dolphins. That is time on the dolphins. I want to like, I want to go back and watch a game. Time.

Time. Time. We called it. Diana, trust me. Because now I want to get better examples. Time. Diana, trust me. I had a great question, but it's time.

So we got to go on to something that's different. So you mentioned. Wait, what is the time thing? We're only about it. Time. Too much dolphin. Time said we get. Tap it out.

No more dolphins. Yeah. They're a pathetic joke of a franchise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Time. This is echoing in the lobby of the Omni. You don't have the headphones on? No.

I forgot to bring them. Okay, well, okay, I'll whisper the question. The Omni ever done it. So, Diane. Danny B of the day. You mentioned that the owners will come downstairs for refreshments, and that's when you'll sidle up. Is that Louis Riddick?

How do you sidle up? What's your opening line to gain the confidences of an owner? Okay. Actually, I need your opinion about something. So because I only see the owners three times a year, roughly, I always think the most professional approach is always to reintroduce myself, right?

No matter what, even the ones that I've known for years to just, hey, how are you? Just Diana Rossini. Yeah, they're old. Just familiarity. And also to remind them that I'm not just a fan or a person that works for the league so they're aware that they are talking to a journalist

and that what we talk about is probably going to be writing about or I'm going to talk about it. But I've noticed a little trend yesterday when I was doing this where I think they get offended. that I introduced myself as if I'm underestimating their recall. So then I got a lot of like, yeah, I know.

And I'm like, wait, I was just doing that because I know you meet a lot of people. You're very important. My face is very boring and bland. And, you know, I look like six different people in the lobby right now. Diana, the problem is it comes off as fake humility. Like, uh, you know, it doesn't. She's trying to be courteous. I know what she's trying to do.

I see what you're saying. I know what she's doing. Anna Ricini, but I know you know who I am. Exactly. Yeah, like, kind of like, hey. My brain, my brain does not go that way. I want to. I should probably be a little bit more.

What a great, what a great self-assessment from you. Wow, I'd like to be arrogant, but I'm not. I can't, I can't even. Self is arrogant, though. I can't even try fake humility. No, it's just humility. Aspiring to arrogance. I don't know what I want to be, but I can tell this version doesn't work.

So, no, it's a good question. Look, I watch these TikTok videos about how to improve small talk because the, get out of here. They say they, the professionals at small talk, say the worst thing you could do in a conversation is to go, hey, Dan, how are you? Worst. Subconsciously, your brain shuts down and you're no longer interested. But if I make an observation about you physically or I'm aware of something you're working,

And hey, Dan, you know, has that project going or, you know, let's just, I'm trying to think of an owner who I start. Like, I saw Charlotte Jones, who is lovely to talk to. And I hadn't seen her in a while. And I went right up to her and said, hey, Charlotte, Diane. And she said, oh, how are you? She did it. I just went back. Has life since Micah.

I just went right into it. Nice. You know, so. You're also in the awkward position, though, of meeting all of these people. And it's so transactional, you need something. They don't, right? And so that makes the whole thing awkward. So yes, but I enjoy this event more than most because owners don't care, right?

Coaches lie, players lie. The owner, I'm sure the owners lie too, but they just say it. I talked to Woody Johnson yesterday. Did you see what he said? Yeah, you were there. I didn't even ask him about Justin Fields. He just said it. Like he's like, can't complete a point.

pass, you know, like, who wants you, what I had to say about Justin Beals? The whole time I'm sitting there listening to him, I'm thinking, he's not wrong. Like, is it good for the locker room and for the Jets players to hear their owner basically say that their quarterback stinks? No. But he's thinking what every other Jets fan is thinking and saying it. So, so yeah, Dan, I'm with you. Like, it definitely feels a little transactional and they know I'm only talking to them because I want to hear about the state of their team. But there's owners like Carly Ursay, who is not someone I would have been chasing down a few years ago, whereas their team's doing well. So they want to stop. The Teppers, right?

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Stugats. Don't do it. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. Uh, Diana, Diana, this is a compliment. Uh, I believe your teeth to be real. But, uh, the teeth whitening routine. What does it look like here? Is this a contrast with the tan?

What are we doing? Wait, the teeth. Mine? Yeah, your teeth are very white. Hey, it looked good. It's so funny too, because I drink so much coffee and I don't do the straw thing. All the girls do the straw thing so you don't get the stain. Yeah. But what are we doing?

whitening strips? No. Kev bought this charcoal. Like it's like a black toothpaste and we've been using that and which is weird right? Like why are my teeth wider if I'm brushing them with a black? Did you get it on IG? Because I got the purple one from IG. No, the purple is bad. Purple's bad. Purple's bad? Why? Buddy? It removes yellow. I got the

I got the powder that I put on top of the toothpaste. You guys got that one? It's like a powder that you sprinkle on top of the toothpaste and then you brush your teeth. Let me see your girl. It's the The reason why the lighting it looks this way is because I saw my former camera crew from ESPN. We call him Jimmy the Greek and he's like a legend at ESPN and he always, his job basically, like he knows nothing about football. Like I could call Jimmy over here and be like, Jimmy, name one quarterback and he'd be like, no one. He thinks his job is to just make sure that you're lit. So that's, so he helped me out.

So an old colleague giving us some help. I told him I was coming on here. So he's like, oh, absolutely. He loves you guys. A powder on the tooth? Just put her on your finger and do this. It's powder on the... I've never heard of that.

It's cocaine. I'm just really excited about dental hygiene. I don't understand what you guys got. Let's speed her up too while we're at it. Let's speed her up with the music that will get through as much football information as we can. The Russell Wilson, Sean Peyton, beef, where Sean Peyton was hoping that Russell Wilson would stay the Giants quarterback said so publicly, didn't want to see Jackson Dart. and Russell Wilson called him classless and not surprising and then said hashtag let's ride let's ride I love it how mad did he have to be for him to come out of character and be a human

being what a great I am not a big clapback person like just ignore it good for us well hit him with a bounty though too a bounty joke how did you feel about that bounty joke in the middle of that Sean Payton's going to come back there's no doubt he'll find a way I'm surprised Sean didn't hop on Twitter. He's a Twitter. He's got Twitter fingers. This is the first public dub for Russell Wilson in a long time. Like, I feel like everyone is just kind of on his side here. It is, truthfully, though, it is

kind of a known thing in the league that there are some coaches that have worked with Russell Wilson and Sean Pete is certainly one of them who just did not like the experience at all. And a lot of it is for the reasons why we criticize him as a show and as a journalist. Sometimes I just think that

the authentic version of him is the best. And I think it's really hard sometimes for him to be that all the time, which is why we're all like, all right, Russ. Like, it's okay to show that, like, you're not happy with, you know, a head coach, you're respecting you. Stand up for yourself a little. You mentioned the Urse's, the Colts. That whole thing is real, right?

I don't think anyone expects that to beat Kansas City, but you better stop underestimating that. Yeah, I'm past doing that. I was kind of like, okay, this kid's turning back into a pumpkin soon. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's Daniel Jones. I've watched enough Giants football in my life. But even just talking to Carly Ursay about why they went with Daniel Jones.

And just even his demeanor, so funny to hear how she describes, she's like, he's not like, say a lot. He doesn't do a lot. He just goes out there in place and he's tough and that's all that matters. But I think with their defense and perhaps maybe some additions they make of the trade deadline, if they do that, they're looking at corner. And they've got this offense humming, right? You could make an argument. They potentially have a coach of the year in Shane Seichen. They've got an offensive player of the year in Jonathan Taylor.

They've got a comeback player of the year in Daniel Jones, right? You've got a lot of good things happening in ADD. You don't say that a lot. Would you be surprised if the Patriots won the AFC East? No, no. If you told me this in August, I was like, no way. They have been really impressive. I think Josh McDaniels has done an exceptional job with Drake May.

I think Drake has always been talented. You talk to anyone in football that was looking for a quarterback in that draft. Everyone was high on Drake. Despite some of things out there, I think there's some reports that some teams didn't like every team like Drakeman. I just think the fact that the Patriots have been able, that Josh McDonanis has been able to replicate some of the success that we saw early with Tom Brady already.

And I'm not there yet, being like, oh, this is the Brady Patriots yet. But, you know, this is a team that's doing it right. They've got the right head coach. They've got the right OC. They've got the quarterback. All good things for them. Here's what May's doing, though. It's not just the 21 of 23 that was better than any completion

percentage Brady had. It's not just throwing the ball down field better than any second year passer ever has. They had a spy on him in Tennessee and he's still running all over the place. He ran for 90 yards last year against Tennessee. That guy, like if people think that's a pocket passer, he's got great pocket

presence, but he runs like crazy. Like he will, he'll run bigger and better than Mahomes will. Yeah. Chase Daniel, my colleague on, excuse me, my co-host, Suncoop City, he's like he reminds you of Phil Rivers alone. He's got a little Philip represent them.

Personality, no. Personality is like a little Eli. He reminds of Eli Manning. By the way, next time Drake May does an interview post game, close your eyes and tell me you don't hear Eli. Like, it's like identical to me in my ear. But in terms of play, yeah. And the toughness and, you know,

when I think about the type of quarterback that I know Vrable wants, one thing he loved about Tanna Hill, I know you guys are going to debate me on this. was his toughness intensity. That was the one thing they loved. No, he was tough. Nobody would debate that here. He was tough.

He was proven that. And I saw Robert Kraft yesterday, and he's glowing. Diana, do you think the Patriots are going to be a buyer at the deadline? I feel like if they had, like, one alpha wide receiver, they'd be a team that could be a winner in the AFC. Lou A.J. Brown? No. Philly's not true.

Swaddle? Not now. we'll see um now i i i think defense i think if they're going to make the move it's got to speed it up got to speed it up it's a tough question dan she's trying to think damn no thinking you know what i'm doing i'm going through my text messages in my head of like what was the last thing i was told about what the paths are doing um no it's the patriots are making calls on defense i i don't get the sense they're going running back going receiver but but i'm with you like i could like that would be awesome I'm like, they're not doing it, but let's say the same sort of move like Prisalave or something,

but they're trying to work out and do it with them. Diana, our very own Mike Ryan, reported yesterday exclusively that Marcus Freeman, although he's a target for Penn State in Florida, he's rather, if he's going to leave Notre Dame, it'll be for the pros. Have you heard anything in the pros about interest for Marcus Freeman? That would be his preference. The Chicago job last year was a particular interest. Yeah, I remember working on that story.

And at the time, I can tell you, where I'm saying the same thing to me, which is Marcus wants to be where he is. Like, he loves where he is. That's not my question. My question was, is there any interest in the pros for Marcus Freeman? I don't know yet.

At this point, I'm not sure if the Titans are a team that would want to go in that direction or if even the Miami Dolphins. The name I am keeping an eye on it's Circassian. If he wants to do that move, that's something that would interest him, perhaps. Just you made me think college.

So, no, I will get back to you on the Marcus Framing thing. That's not it. I know there was somebody in a very high-ranking position with the bears that really wanted Marcus last year. But Marcus didn't want them at the time. Diana, if the dolphins are offered blank for Jalen Waddle, they should consider it. Like in terms of like trade value? Yeah.

Fourth round? Diana, Super Bowl odds are really indecisive right now. The perception is there's no super team. What right now is your Super Bowl matchup? Kansas City Chiefs. And? They've been the most chill organization all full. I can't get a person there to tell me that things are not good.

And this isn't like positive poly stuff, too, that sometimes you get from teams. We're going to be fine. And from the NFC? And we see it every, the Detroit line. choice lines are they're building on this why is your reporting so much different than everyone else is on bill bellichick when you said on nick wright show they tell me this is the happiest they've seen bill in years he feels like the students are actually buying into what he's doing because i did a lot of digging on it and i talked more directly to the people involved

to find out what what's going on like what do you guys want what are you are you happy or is just where you want to be. And, you know, the people there tell me that that is what it is. And, you know, Belichick's camp will tell you that you have to be around it to understand it. And I had a colleague of mine around it on Friday night when they play Cal. And there was definitely a little bit of that. Like, it's not as bad as it may seem. Do I think it's good? No, I don't think it's good. But I do think there's a lot of people in the NFL, in the conference. on this planet who want to see Bill Belichick fail and everyone has their own reasons it's not my job

to figure what those are out I am just telling you that there's always two sides to things and it's not just Bill is trying to get out or Bill's miserable Bill's a bad coach there are some good things that are happening there and he wants to be there she's the senior NFL insider for the athletic the host of the Scoop City podcast she's joining us from a sad side adjacent hotel lobby and she's She will do anything for our show. Thank you, Diana. We appreciate it. An echoing lobby where the strangers looked at how she was shouting because she forgot her headphones.

We will get to the useless sound montage in a second. When she mentioned Chris Olavi, I meant to mention this, I think it was two weeks ago. He had some play where I did not understand how he caught it. I did not understand how he stayed upright after he caught it. And as soon as he did both of those things, someone came over and just punched the ball cleanly out of hands, even though he had made a great athletic play. Just somebody wound up and just

punch the football directly. You saw the league. They're sending memos. You better not punch the ball fine. But don't go punching players. Nobody said anything about punching players or going after the ball. When you miss, you punch players. You can't just punch a player. What is this after the Lions

Chiefs game in which there was actual punches thrown? I think you're misinterpreting. Not misinterpret anything. You can't just throw haymakers at the guy carrying the football. Yeah, you can if you hit the ball. Yeah, you can. What if I miss it?

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would do a Gary Stevens impersonation of the offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins and the University of Miami. Go ahead. Do you want to do that for the people? You're Gary Stevens' impersonation? You want to give people some of that 30 years in the making. Stugats. What?

Who needs me? Oh, that? What? You're going to go to Buffalo. And win with Bernie Pommily? Own age, pink. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stucats. Get the useless sound montage here.

Get it going so that we could laugh together at how useless people analyze the football games on Sunday. Everything we said we didn't want to do did occur. I think he did everything to lose the game. We just have to do what we have to go win these games. Thank you, Lord, for put me in that position and choosing me to be, you know, the quarterback of this team. We're going to be so excited any time we win a game. Guys want to do good every time they're out there, right? Tip your hats to New York.

Those guys have found a new juice. We lost the game. We came in to, you know, play to win the game. He was cool as a cucumber and went out there and did his job. When you win, you know, you can use it. usually coached a little bit harder. You guys to put up the gas at all when you have this 19 point league? No.

Take it one game at a time. We celebrate the win, celebrate the heck out of it just now. And the resilience of this group, the focus, the toughness to finish when we needed it, guys making plays. I mean, I am who I am and I don't change. We're going to find out who and what we're made of. It's important we don't let the euphoria of a win like that cloud, the things that need to get cleaned up tomorrow.

Great fight, grit by our guys. There's some grit there. They didn't quit. We won't be defined by this performance, but it certainly was disappointing tonight. They're figuring out how to win, how to practice. You win a game like that, it's like the best thing ever. My first time you sort of win in a game like that. I thought the guys did a great job of being able to sleep on the plane.

Two formulas that generally will equal immediate loss. I mean, if you complete it, they're happy. The only thing we can do is go back to work. Yeah, 60-minute game. So just like everybody else in there, you know, you got to look inward first. If you're saying it's not me, it's you. Me and the boys are over there. See one of them kind of counting.

I'm like, you know what? It's probably best we don't do that because a lot of numbers you're going to have to count. But it was funny we were talking this week about, I was like, it's your revenge week this week because he was in Atlanta. And then sure enough, he's like, on like whatever early in the game,

he's like, all right, here we go. And I was like, revenge week. Here's what gives me hope as I go through these weeks is, man, just exactly how they come out on Wednesday in practice and then how they come out on Thursday in practice. The same would on Friday. When tomorrow comes, and it's not tomorrow yet.

Plans are plans, man. Our philosophy is always going to be, do whatever we got to do to win games every single time. We just got to stick together. Doing right longer, and that's our definition of finishing. We're always truth-tellers on Monday. It was good. He definitely owes me some money. He fell down on those passes at, like, the two-yard line, so he wanted to run them in.

You know, we talk about practice, performance, equal in game reality. I thought that came to life today. We say we want to win games, so we have to do the things necessary to win games. Yeah, no, I definitely. I got your question, and you weren't wrong, so I hope we can still be friends. We have an NFL opponent and game next week. Just trying to maneuver everything and trying to build a collection of guys to kind of bring along with me, and I got to be able to kind of be able to multitask, if that makes sense.

Be able to do that, and while doing that, kind of continue to get the whatever it was last year in the years prior for myself to get going again. If I'm being totally honest, I have not been myself since confusing Ray Bork and Boston Globe columnist Ron Borges, but McVeigh brought me back by complimenting the way his guys were sleeping on the plane. Yes. Those guys slept on the plane on the way to the Jacksonville game. They did a great job of sleeping on the plane.

It's not the easiest thing to do. You remember when Chip Kelly was going to change the Philadelphia Eagles because he bought him smoothies and heart monitors and he was going to monitor their sleep. Sean McVeigh made sure that his Rams slept correctly. Nobody sleeps like the Rams. I thought the guys did a great job of being able to sleep on the plane. Do you think he walked up and down the aisle?

It's like, nice. They look so good. Who's awake over here? That's good sleep right there. That's good sleep. Who's good? Last night, Amin was made nostalgic. I wonder how old he felt when all of the players playing in the games were interviewed about their memories about the NBA on NBC.

And none of them knew anything and laughed in the face of the interviewers, except for Anthony Edwards, who simply said Michael Jordan. That's what I remember from NBA on NBC. They bring Michael Jordan out. I seem like I'm the only one that was disappointed by insights into excellence, just being a one-hour interview. with Michael Jordan. What were you expecting? I was expecting something a little more like Tom Brady

if you're going to give him some, that kind of money. Like, I'm not saying you've got to go to production meetings, but you're not going to just do a taped one-hour interview that you're going to splice out over the remainder of the season?

Zaz, Dan was expecting Michael Jordan to let us know that Tar Easton needs to step it up. And also, Kaysen Wallace, has been a great piece of energy for the Thunder. They had Carmelo and McGrady to do that. Are you comparing Carmelo and McGrady?

To the greatest player? in the history of the game? The man who's funeral I will attend? Did you guys see their tech issues at the start? I'm not going to lie. That made me feel good. Not so easy, is it? I like to see when big programs have tech issues.

Carmelo, can you put on a shirt and tie? Oh, what are you doing? Carmelo. Enough with you. This isn't a podcast. It's NBA and NBC. You have a backwards flex fit. That's right.

You know what? This is the second consecutive day. I'm glad you brought me up. A runner-up key championship shirt. Okay, first of all, I have a lot of positive feelings about the Miami-E 2020 runs the NBA finals. I know they didn't win. Back-to-back days with a second-play shirt and a backwards flex-fit. Number two, I'm glad you brought this up because I was on the Miami Heat radio,

not even television, radio broadcast for 12 years. He was wearing a suit. I wore a suit of me. Look at me. Look at me. This is how I want to dress. You think I wanted to wear a suit every day, but I wasn't even on TV, but I dress. I dress for the occasion. Carmelo, it's not a podcast. Put on a suit. Everyone in there has a colored shirt. Two-time champion broadcast. Dan, a lot of people were praising Carmelo for dressing in a way that offended Jonathan Zaslow, apparently. And to all those people, I'd like to say, you're welcome. Let's give credit, what credits do, pay tribute to the trailblazers, the icons of people who blaze the path to allow Carmelo Anthony to wear that on an NBA broadcast.

Who are those people? You're looking at them. Okay. You're taking credit for T-shirt pioneering? Not T-shirt. Explain yourself, I mean. Not T-shirt. When I got there, they were dressed like they were going to a funeral.

Hard bottoms and suits and tars. And we're talking about sports seriously. And I came in with the bomber jackets and the Jordan's on. And next thing you know, everyone started wearing sneakers with their suits. And then they became, oh, we don't have to wear a suit. And now everyone's like, oh, my God, look a carmel Anthony. He's so cool. I'm like, I did that 10 years ago.

And you guys called me crazy. You can't be taking credit for this. for taking one. Dan, he's a trailblazer. You're talking to a trailblazer of television, Dan. Pioneer. You took the blazer out of trailblazer. You put the sports in sports coat. Pioneer. I mean, even Michael Jordan dressed up for the

occasion. I didn't even leave his living room. I did like those shoes. Those shoes were like Vanta White. You think when he saw Terrico had white shoes, he's like, no. I've got wider shoes. He went back into his closet and got some shoes to one of them. By the way, how great was that story?

Oh, dude. It's good story. While he's wearing shoes, whiter than Racine these teeth. But, yeah, Dan, did you hear the story? Now, you're familiar with the meme, the Michael Jordan meme, F those kids? Yes. Okay. Well, apparently, it's a lie. Because he cares about kids. He stays at a Ryder Cup owner's house, whatever that means.

The guy who owns the Ryder Cup is what he said. And you say the greatest basketball player ever, and you're right, but the greatest basketball player ever still gets trotted out like a show pony to shoot free throws when you own the Ryder Cup house. He doesn't own the Ryder Cup. It was a guy in a house. own the house. Okay.

The best part is that he asked him, have you picked up a basketball? He goes, not in years. And he asked one follow-up. Really? Actually, last month, I shot a free throw. You said not years, and then 10 seconds later, you're like, actually last week, I shot a free throw. Chris, you know what I just heard from you right there?

Mike Torrico, journalist. Most podcast hosts would be like, okay, let's just move right along. Not Mike Tariko. Stayed in it. Hit him with the follow-up, right? Hold him accountable. Michael Jordan comes back and says, you got me, Mike, tells the story. and then, like, oh, he's got, if you didn't watch, Michael Jordan goes.

Let's hear it. Let's do it right now. We have the sound. We have the sound. Okay. I haven't picked up a ball in years. Oh, come on. Just like walk past.

There's got to be a hoop somewhere at your place. You don't see a hoop that way around here, right? I don't. Seriously, it's the last time you picked up a basketball and shot it. I was at the right a cup. A month ago. And I rented a house from the owner. Sure.

He came over. to do pictures and grandkids and I was meet and greet and thank him for allowing me to stay in the house

and he had a basketball court he says I want you to shoot one free throw I said really and I already

paid for the I already paid for the house and I like to see me so when I stepped up to shoot the free throw it's the most

nervous I've been in years stop it in years stop it come on and reason being is those

Those kids heard the stories from the parents about what I did 30 years ago. Right. So their expectation is 30 years prior, and I haven't touched the basketball. I hope you switched it. Absolutely. We're supposed to believe that he rented that house. Come on. Wasn't that funny, Tarrico?

What? Why would you... Why wouldn't he have rented the house? If you have a chance to have Michael Jordan staying in your house... You don't charge him? Is he low on money? That's who I would charge the most. Of course you don't charge him.

He's staying there gratis. Greg's right, though. That's the thing. The richer you are, the more famous you are, the more free stuff you get, Dan, right? I'll give it to you free if you give me a free throw. If you go out here and shoot a free throw for me. My kids are there. What do you think they're there for?

Come on. Dan, I googled who owns the Rider Cup. It is co-owned, 50-50 partnership between the PGA of America and Rider Cup Europe. Okay, thank you for that. So they don't own the house he was renting. The PGA. Asked him to make a free throw. You thought a guy, like one guy, own the Ryder Cup?

I thought, I thought Michael Jordan lived in such a stratosphere that one guy owned the Ryder Cup and lend him his own. Like, Cooper Cup, like Ryder Cup. Howdy listeners? It's Mike Ryan and Chris Cody. Hey, everyone. Hey, Chris. We love hanging out so much.

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