The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: When He Croaks (feat. David Samson)

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

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hour is that it's a person. I didn't know that. Kyrie Irving. David, can you help me out here? You saw Jacob Marcy for the Marlins last night. Bonds. I mean, 1400 OPS right now. I know it's a...

Ten games as. Some would say small sample size. I get it. But I don't know. Like when you're running a team and you see, obviously, he's not going to be this guy that we're seeing right now, but is it worth being really excited about in such a short period of time? I don't want to be that guy, but I'll give you two names to ponder. One, Kevin Moss. Now, that's a bit of an older name. Great name. Many of you may not know. Sue Gott's definitely

knows that name. Boy, that guy was hot. Yes. And now what? I assume now he's a farmer, which is not bad to be a farmer, but it's just not a professional baseball player. I picture him like John Lovitz with Gina Davis, League of Their Own, like doing milking of cows. Two, remember Abraham Nunez? This is more for Mike in the old days. Maybe Billy not there. Definitely not Izzy. That guy was hot on the Marlins during spring training. He was leading the Grafrew League and home runs. You know what? I'm in on Marcy because it's cool to watch, but it's baseball. You cannot think Izzy that he's the next Barry Bond. So all of a sudden, you've got to start watching the team.

He's got a long way to go to be Barry Bonds. You knew that about Moss, right? Because he's the president of Mount Vernon's form power. So you knew that, right? I swear to Stugots. That's a great Stugat's Samson moment. I had no idea that he's even Googlable anymore. No, I didn't know what he was.

But clearly he's got to be running something because he certainly did not get the pension from MLB. I've pieced it all together. And no, kitty elason is not an actual person. I'm very bad, very bad husband because my wife is Greek Orthodox, got married in a Greek Orthodox church. They always say Kitty Alasan, and I'm like, what is that thing? That's super catchy. That's just like a Greek saying.

It's not a person. So I've been pretty close when I've just been going, Killing Laisa to do that. I mean, that's pretty damn cool. It's like every pearl jam song. I've been doing Kitioleson any time I go to Mass, like any time. And I just pieced it together. It really rolls off the tongue.

for you, too. Do it again? Kiriolae son. That's what the Greek Orthodox priest do. That sounds like any church has that sort of cadence or any synagogue. But that's not the Mr. Mr. Mr. song. The Mr. Mr. song is Kiri'lezon. I think it's

way more enunciated in the song. That's because they're not actually Greek, but these are like Greek Orthodox priests that have to hit the right inflection. Nor are they Australian. Yeah, that one was unfortunate on my behalf. So I guess, David, like, I understand the points you're making there, and I remember Abraham Nunez, but was Abraham Nunez, like the prize prospect that they got back in return for an All-Star who led the National League in, you know, batting average?

Listen, do you know, going back to the game last night, the pick of the day on nothing personal was the Orioles and a former Marlin named Trevor Rogers, who's turned out to be exactly what the Marlins thought. They're so good at developing pitchers, but that trade with the Orioles was really for Connor Norby, not for Kyle Stowers. Kyle Stowers was a throw-in, and now look, he's the star. So you can't really necessarily look at, oh, this was the trade where we traded this player and we got back this star prospect, because pretty often it turns out to be Dantrell-Willis was a throwing. It turns out to be that you don't really know what you're getting until it happens. And so that's why evaluating these trades are looking at the, it's a new thing now.

The farm system rankings are out and everyone's jumping all over themselves. hey look the number one farm system who cares i want to know who the best team in baseball is at the big league level and to do that you need good players of every age jeremy actually pointed out to me to your point that marcy wasn't even the main piece in that trade dylan head was the bigger piece in that trade so it turned out that you know marsy's sneaking up there well as a matter of fact who knows how it will turn out but it's right now it's turning out now you always like to see the marlins have been great with young players we've done that as a organization for so long there was the Ramirez, the catcher.

When he came up, I don't think he made an out and it was this unbelievable thing. And now he's, you know, he's still right there in the talk of for rookie the year, top five, top eight. But with Baldwin, it's not going to happen. But in any case, there is always reason for optimism when young players do well because you feel like there's an opportunity

to have overperformance for a number of years before they get expensive in arbitration. And you need a bunch of players like that in order to win. But you don't have to have heard of these players. How many Milwaukee Brewers can you name other than Yally and maybe Peralta and maybe Woodruff and maybe Josh Hader and Devin Williams? But how many current brewers can you name? And they're the best team in baseball by a lot. John Jaha. Richard Sexton. Jeremy Burnitz.

Robin Yunt. Ben Sheets. George. Scott. David, this is funny because Kevin Moss had 21 homers. He was second in the rookie of the year voting in the American League. He had 21 homers in like 60-some-odd games and was out of the big leagues four years later so he was on the back page of the new york post or daily news what seemed to me obviously i'm thinking and revising history but it seemed like every day and he was this he almost and as i also recall he sort of looked like rob low he did and so there was a lot of just he was a matinee idol who was crushing home runs he looked like adonis and guess what never got to free agency j jy hardy oh he's just jeff Serrillo.

Oh, Cyrillo. Oh, God. Deep cut. Tedi Gierrez. Yes. David, who was the prospect you were so sure of was going to be what you thought he was going to be? And he just, you know, didn't amount to it. That we traded for?

Yeah. Or that we drafted. Like you traded one of, you know, the Marlins star players for? Well, he turned out to be great. We traded for a prospect named Hanley Ramirez, who turned out to be a really good one. And I was told I didn't know who he was. That's another funny thing. when GMs are talking about the prospects they trade for.

They don't know these guys. You get it from your baseball people who are scouting the systems of the other teams. The GMs don't go around to minor league games. They don't go around to see these guys. They see some video maybe a bit, but you're counting on your scouts and on your people who are in scouting

and professional scouting to give you the names, and then you count on your GM to give the president the name. But I was told, hey, listen, Hanley Ramirez and Annabelle Sanchez, you'll forget about Beckett and they're taking Lowell's money. Well, I didn't forget about Beckett and Lowell. But, man, Annabal Sanchez and Hanley Ramirez were two good Marlins. All right, so it was literally the opposite of what I asked you, though.

Kirill lays on down the road that I must travel. David, do teams ever, like, let's say you have a prospect who's like maybe a top 10 guy, but we don't really like this guy in-house. So we're going to actually call him our third best prospect so that teams think he's better than he actually is. Does that happen? The Yankees, the Yankees change their prospect order, just so you know when they're doing a whole bunch of trades. Like, you can't pay attention ever when you're trading with the Yankees

to what number prospect it is because it's all made up all the time. And we would laugh with Cashford about this because they pump their prospects. We would meet with our scouts and with our media and say, listen, we're going to be talking about the following five players right now because they stink. And we want to move them, but we want to pretend they're super good. see we're going to say that there are third ranked sometimes we'll give like minor league player of the year to someone so they can have that on their resume there's all sorts of shenanigans that

goes on because the media and fans look at these rankings and say oh look you traded this guy for the number two four and seven prospect of the other team system it's horsaki i made a mistake i got the wrong kevin moss the uh kevin moss we're talking about is a financial advisor and doing very well. He is a millionaire for Charles Schwab, so I don't know what happened there. It's M-A-A-A-S. Kevin Moss is the former Yankee. Did you go M-O-S-S? Where'd you go there?

No, I want Kevin Moss. There's just another Kevin Moss out there, yes. Who's a former? But he still was only in the big league's four years, and he still looks like Rob Lowe. Correct. Yes, on both. So we got that right. So, David, speaking of millionaires, what do you make of what's going on, the Portland

Trailblazers? The Allen estate, they sell to the group that owns the Carolina Hurricanes. What's going on there in Portland? Well, the guy who owns the hurricanes, that's in Raleigh. And the thought was that Portland could relocate, but they're not relocating to Raleigh. There's already a team in that area,

and it's the Charlotte Hornets. So people in Portland can rest easy, but they've got a big situation with a new arena. There's going to be a lot of public money that's asked for to get a new arena there because their lease runs out in 2030. And they did something just recently. So the team was sold by Paul Allen's sister, who was running all the teams that Paul Allen owned after Paul croaked, and you have the Trailblazers, the Seahawks, and the Seattle Sounders.

And all these are going to be sold for the benefit of charity. But it's taken seven years. Like these charities are like, man, we need some cash. What's going on here? Finally, though, the teams are being sold. and what happened is the guy from Carolina is going to be on a plane back and forth because that team's not leaving Portland anytime soon

and it has nothing to do with Lillard. It has nothing to do with Chris Dudley or Cliff Robinson, rest in peace. But it does have to do with the fact that the NBA does not want any relocation. They want expansion. And you can't mess around with relocation when you're trying to get expansion fees. Man, I just, I'm taking it back how Paul Allen croaked. Yeah. Kick the bucket.

Well, what word would you like me to use? The word that you used for Uncle Cliffy? You said passed away. Well, I know Uncle Cliffy. I don't know Paul Allen. All right. I miss Uncle Spliffy. God, was he good and fun.

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We've got to come together. A little southern twinge there. A little George Bush in that one. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. David, the Milwaukee Brewers have won 12 in a row after yesterday afternoon's game. Like, is this a team that could wind up making a run in the postseason? No. It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard. It's going to.

because they're peaking. You can't peak in August. It's the worst plan. It's like sort of finishing everything like while you're still at the movie and you're like, well, wait a minute, we have a whole night ahead of us. You just don't want to do that. You want to time it right. I'd rather see which team's going to be hot toward the end of September heading into October. And you really don't want to be the team that runs away with the best record because then you sort of lose that edge. But it's exciting. Right now they're eating burgers. That's a giveaway. What would we do? What's a great guess in Miami if we would give away like a free impanata?

Is that the equivalent if the Marlins ever won 12 in a row? How many people would get online for a free empanada? Because in Milwaukee, what they're telling me is they like free stuff better than anybody in the country. And I said that's not true. Everybody likes free stuff. Stugats, have you ever been at a game throughout your life and you had the ticket stub for the game that you are at where you get the free whatever, the free sandwich, and then you actually

go and use it? Never. No. I've never done it. I've never done it either. Anyone here done that? You take, I mean, maybe after the Marlins game or after the Dolphins game, Dolphins win, you go to Tutsis, you got your tickets, free entry, that was a thing.

Anyone ever used? I've never done it before. So the Heat had a promo where I think if there was two missed free throws, you would get free Chick-fil-A, but they would send the app directly to the app. So I didn't have to have the ticket or whatever, so it would be like, oh, somebody missed two free throws, heat get free chicken sandwich. All you got to do is go to Chick-fil-A and show them this. And I was like, all right, perfect.

The Papa John's, when the heat win, 50% off the next week, all the time. But you don't have to go anywhere. You could just order. Yeah, no, yeah, didn't have to go anywhere. I would say probably the Pollo Tropical one, where you have to, like, scan something and then go through all this trouble is probably the most effort I've ever put in through those. And it requires effort to get the free burgers. And these George Webstores in Milwaukee, they're not really.

in the suburbs. They're in the city of Milwaukee. And believe me, there are people lining up to get the free burgers because it's free burgers. You might as well. But they're using a voucher system because the damn brewers keep winning 12 in a row. They did it in 1987. Then they did it in 2018. And now they're doing it again in 2025. And George Webb did this sponsorship thinking that'll never happen. I'm pretty sure, guys, the Marlins have never won as a franchise 12 in a row. super hard to win 12 in a row. Even the Yankees, I'd like to know when the last time they won 12 in a row. So it's not about wins in a franchise that you think is small payroll versus large payroll. But that George Webb, there's going to be a lot of people getting vouchers

today and they're going to be eating free burgers. David, I found this story super interesting that Kansas University has received a $300 million donation from David Booth, who went to the University of Kansas. We're going to start seeing more and more of this in college sports. Are we Panther Winger, too. Panned a lot of money down in Australia, man. Saltgrass Express. The Marlins are the only MLB franchise to never win 10 games in a row. Love it.

David Booth question. Back to you, David. I would just say that everyone who's talking about the rankings and the power for conferences, and I know Mike that means a lot in terms of Miami and all the conferences, but don't we agree that the conferences now and the power of the team is just based on the power of the alum and the willingness of an alum to become a huge, huge donor. And I don't mean like a celebrity becoming the assistant GM of the team. I'm talking about finding someone who's willing to write a check

because with $300 million and what they're pretending is happening in Kansas is that it's being used to refurbish an arena, it's being used for capital expenditures, but they're misleading you because that money would have come from the athletic department in the school. Now it's going to come from David Booth, which means the athletic department and the school has more money to spend on other things because dollars are fungible.

So they don't want you to believe that this is something other than what it is, which is trying to buy greatness. And I'm all for it. If you have an alum who's wealthy and willing to give money, I think it's the biggest gift ever. And maybe they want to become like Texas Tech, where you just start buying your way into success. But I assume that's what the NCAA wanted.

here's what I don't understand and Mike can probably help out a little bit here aren't we like I thought that we're rulings this summer where there's going to be like a cap and only a certain amount of money that you're able to spend in the athletic department right when is all that happening that's a good question right like I mean it ain't happening now it's not now it ain't happening now you have someone overseeing this I mean and also you can Make a gift to an institution and have it expressly not go to NIL. You're talking facilities. I imagine.

Well, he said 75 million of the 300 apparently is going toward renovation of the stadium, I think. Yeah. I think people are also viewing this through because of the business of college football. Keep in mind they have a really great basketball program, rich in tradition that I imagine we'll get in that game. The cap is something that these institutions want to have in there because they want to limit the amount of money that these players can make. and it'll get challenged in court and it'll probably lose unless the NCAA is given full autonomy

and even then these things can get challenged individually in courts. We're a long way from a solution, I think. But what's happening now, Mike, is that you have teams and you have presidents of teams and athletic directors who are trying to identify these alums who are willing to make life-changing generational type gifts because it can change a program. And Kansas, you're right, I mean, from Danny Manning on down, from, that's an old reference, which I apologize, but they're basketball. It's the only reference. I mean, there's a lot.

And I think you're thinking small by thinking alums. I know for a fact, many of Miami's biggest supporters, boosters, donors, they're not alums. Yeah, but David is right. If you're a school, every school has successful alums, right? And so if you have one at your school who is willing to support and finance the athletic program, you're in the game. I mean, that's it. And that's the scary part, too, because what happens if it all of a sudden

you've got an alum from a school that's not in the Power 4 conferences and that school becomes a juggernaut, not just for a season, but over the course and it builds on each other and it becomes a decades-long thing. That's what they're trying to do with Kansas, for sure. They're trying to make the football program

better like the basketball program. So it's a very bizarre thing, what's going on with the house settlement, with all of the caps that are supposed to be in place, and the players getting paid because it's all still a mess and when things are messy that's when people start maneuvering within the cracks and they start filling the holes of misinformation or lack of information with whatever it is they want to do and that's why you're going to see a lot of disparate schools doing disparate things that some may say are nefarious all that is just

starting in my opinion mike hatred for the NCAA reaches across the aisle if you look at some of the Justice Kavanaugh, Justice Thomas, they've ruled against the NCAA routinely. Now, we have top-to-bottom buy-in on the conservative side of the aisle now, unlike we've ever seen, I know the executive order out there, the so-called Trump saves college sports executive order, was a big nothing burger because it made things against the rules that were already against the rule. So it was just, you know, some would call it a distraction from what I don't know. Seems to be a lot of those these days. But we'll see when this thing gets to Congress and makes its way to the Supreme Court when it inevitably gets challenged, it'll be curious to see

because there is a lot of disdain for the NCAA. And unless people listen to marching orders from up top, which does happen with this president more than others, I don't see the NCAA really winning in the end. And if they do win, it will be short-lived before we go to Private Equity Super League time. Private equity is something that the president has not gotten involved in in terms of private equity availability for money to buttress budgets of schools. And you've got athletic directors out there saying, no, you know, we're not going to go the private equity route. Those are called famous last words because you pretty much go with whatever route you have to to balance your budget because every athletic director has to do that

and they want to compete because they want their own extensions and they want to get paid. So it really is a never-ending cycle of looking for more sources of money. The pro leagues are already there. private equities needed to get these like the cowboys at 12 billion dollar valuation guess what there is nobody who's going to write a 12 billion dollar check to buy the cowboys from stephen jones or whoever inherits it from jerry when jerry croaks but private equity will certainly be a part of that equation and that's why the NFL the NBA MLB now is working through that how to get your valuations higher and higher means you have to take private equity money you mentioned jerry Jones and when he croaks. I know you probably saw the story yesterday. He gets the croak

treatment, right? Well, he's been battling, he battled and conquered. He survived it. Sage 4 cancer and he's been battling with that for a decade. Not like Terry Jones to be keeping a secret like that. So, I mean, it's an amazing thing, Mike. And I got, listen, I've had, we've all had cancer touch us. That's why we stand up for cancer. And I, when I read that, I felt terribly for him because stage four cancer, usually. is sort of game over and he was able to get into a trial and get medicine but then he said in the same sort of time you know i like making news because that's what keeps people talking cowboys we don't have to win anything we just need people talking about us and our valuation keeps going

up up and up and then this came out now if i am not i am not cancer shaming because he is a cancer survivor however i can tell you that it was surprisingly he didn't talk about it because it's the perfect thing to talk about. You get a little sympathy, you get a little increase in the bump of your team. Like, there's a few positives that could have come of it, and he kept it very quiet. I get what you're saying, even though it sounds crass, but in the last 10 years, Jerry Jones has had some scandals. That would have been softened by, you know, just volunteering this stage 4 cancer battle. He saved it for the Micah Parsons negotiations. I mean, yeah, ace card there. Can you imagine Jerry Jones doing the math of when?

he should release the fact that he's got stage four cancer he's like wait a minute i got prescott right now this is this may be the time but uh he's doing polling behind the scenes now jerry david i decided to shoot the bullet now david i saw the minnesota twins they put out a statement yesterday what's going on there with them selling or not selling the team so that team's for sale like the nationals are for sale like the angels are for sale like the marlins are for sale although the marlins aren't for sale but if someone came with a big price everything's for sale and uh the twins were going to be bought by guy named justin ishbia who you may know as the brother of matt ishbia who you may know as the

not savior of the phoenix sons and justin ishby was ready to go and then he said well wait a minute i don't like schlep into minnesota i spend my time in chicago let's wait for rindsdorf to croak So he ended up buying the white socks from Reinsdorf, once Reinsdorf dies. And so now there was no one to buy the twins. So what the Polad family did, the owners of the twins, is they said, here's what we're going to do. We're going to write a letter to our fans saying, we thought about selling the team, but we have such passion. We love Minnesota and Minnesota and so much that we're not selling the team.

That's because no one offered them the price they wanted. So that's an issue for the commissioner. he's got to get these teams sold because he's got to get valuations that like what the NBA are getting because they don't want to fall too far behind they can't even see the NFL from here but they got to get some of these teams

that are for sale sold at good numbers Stugats you notice no one blinked an eye when David used croaked for Jerry Reinsdorf no he deserves that Jerry Reinstorm okay it's harsh but no one seemed to mind I don't find Croke to be pejorative I find it to be an adjective hmm

Dan Lebatard. Go peepie. Stugats. Go peepie. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. David, are you surprised that the Celtics, the Lakers sold for $10 billion. I was kind of surprised to see the Celtics go for $6.1 billion. I thought it would be closer to $10.

So the Celtics didn't go for 6'1. That, and I understand the mistake because it's been wrongly reported. The way the Celtics transaction is working is that there are several, There are several payments that are being made by the Chisholm group to Wick, who was the governor and is not going to be any more, meaning he's selling the Celtics. But he's actually getting paid in installments. It's not a step transaction like Arod. It's installments. And the second installment is way bigger than the first from a valuation standpoint, which means the entirety of the team is worth well more than six.

It was, you're going to find and you're going to read this just not today, that it's going to be north of six. But still, that has the Lakers way above that, like a 40% higher than the Celtics valuation. And that's just either an overpay or an indication that L.A. is just a different world, that city of angels versus Boston. Crooked is a verb, not an adjective. Wow. Didn't see that coming. Unbelievable. Didn't see that coming.

David, your response? It's an action verb to croak. I guess that's right. I don't know why I said adjective. I'm wrong. It's a verb. Can we start a new category for Suey's greatest correction? Because that has got to be the leader in the clubhouse.

It's a great one. Tough look for David. No, I got it wrong. Because it's me, David. But it's Chris Cody. Oh, is Chris not a grammarian? Well, it's Chris correcting you. I want to be correct.

He's American. David, what happened on nothing personal with Andre Dawson? Well, I don't know if people are, I want people to watch your show. We're on Draft King's Network. Well, we just finished off Drafking's Network, but we recorded an interview with Andre Dawson live this morning, and I screwed up, Mike, because I didn't wait for Koka to tell me to start, and he would normally, he's just with, he's alone,

so he has to figure out the camera. And the angle, I did notice the angle is very much, very close to Andre's face, but I saw him pop up on the Zoom, so I just started talking to him. So Koka got super angry with me for prematurely starting the interview. But during the interview, which was live this morning at about 8 o'clock, he said that he has resigned from baseball's Hall of Fame. The hell does that mean? He does not consider himself to be part of Cooperstown, the Baseball Hall of Fame because of a dispute he's having with them. And I was, I was shocked to hear that. I don't think he's in charge of that. What does that mean?

Well, I mean, like, I love Andre Dawson. Once you're in the Hall of Fame, you're in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I don't think he makes the rules. So, but he can choose not to go back to Cooperstown, which he didn't. There were 52 Hall of Famers who went for Ichero and C.C. Sabathia and Dave Parker and Scott, et cetera. But no. Are they like a united group? Is that what, like they're all upset about the same thing, those guys you just mentioned?

No, Andre and Andre called those players to congratulate them, those who were alive, obviously. And what happened was that he didn't want to be in the Hall of Fame as an Expo. He wanted to be in the Hall of Fame as a cub, and they didn't grant him his wish, and they won't let him change it. And I didn't realize to what level the Hall of Fame had gone against Andre and how personal it had become

against Andre. And he talked about it freely on the show. And then he talked about the fact that he got colluded against by Charles Bronfman, the owner of the Expos, and that's how he became a cub, except the cubs didn't want him to be a cub. They were shocked when he said he would be a cub.

and he told us this morning that he was only going to play for the Cubs or the Braves because he needed to play on grass because he couldn't play on turf for another second. Wow. Like that, man, I'm sorry to hear that because Andre Dawson waited so long to get that call. Well, he's still in the Hall of Fame, that. No, he is. No, but it upsets me that he, A, that he's upset about something that took so long for him to rightfully be inducted into.

And then on top of it, I mean, let's be honest to you for a second. If he was so adamant about not going in an expo's hat, the hell is a big deal. Why can't they throw a Cubs hat on him? It's something that he explained in terms of how it works and that there were players involved on a committee, but then he spoke to players who said, yeah, that's not how it went down. So there is something going on.

And I don't know if Pablo's going to find out. I don't know if maybe I'll try to find out. But what we got from Andre was just this unbelievable conversation about his, and he's a very serious man. And he doesn't talk a lot. He talks with his actions way more than with his, you know, tonsils. And he just opened up and just started talking. And it's a good episode.

It's today's second hour of nothing personal. All right. David, you got a movie for us. I do. Have you been watching Train wrecked? No. No, no one's heard of it. Train wrecked has different episodes, things that have got.

It's a documentary series, right, of different stories. Kind of like the sports untold one, just not sports-related? Exactly. They did one called train wrecked balloon boy. And I don't know if you remember when a hot air balloon that was made by some guy in his backyard basically got untethered and was floating through the air. And there was a little boy in it. Like their sun got stuck in the balloon. And it was this thing live on every channel. It was covered. The balloon ran out of helium. And then it landed in the desert. And there was no boy in the balloon. So people thought that he fall out, did he fall out? Like what happened? And it turns out the whole thing was a scam. And they got, the parents got charged. They got charged because there were thousands, thousands of people and tons of money spent

trying to get balloon boy safely down from like 7,000 feet. And it turns out it was all to get attention for this family. I didn't remember that part of the story. Spoiler alert, when you watch train wrecked. Balloon Boy, it turns out what people will do for fame is pretty shocking. This one will blow your mind. It's called Train Reck, and the episode of Interest is called Balloon Boy. It's well worth watching.

This family was ahead of their time, man. Seriously. Exactly. They were the Kardashians before the Kardashians. Isn't this the series with the Duty Cruise? I watched that one, The Poop Cruise. Oh, that was great. That was a great one.

Train wrecked, the Poop Cruise. Where a cruise just loses power in the middle of the ocean. and for like five days nobody can go to the bath like they can go to the bathroom but they can't flush so after about a day and a half that shit hit the fan

I would have jumped overboard I thought about it I watched that poop cruise I was thinking of you too I was like imagine David on this ship I would have either called for a helicopter I would have jumped overboard I would have taken the lifeboat

because they were just floating without power for days and there was literally rivers of crap flowing through the hallways. Right. And people were sleeping on deck. There were no showers. There was no

ability to cook food. They were out of food. The sad food lines. But David, if you jump off, you're choosing death over staying alive. I mean, I can swim. You can't swim that far. I'm an iron man. Get out of here. You think that poop's not hitting the ocean, David? You think you're not swimming through

some chunks while you're getting to Louisiana? I got to feel good about the fact when I swim in the ocean, that there's enough cubic yards or whatever it's called, however you measure water, that whatever's being dumped in by the cruise ships, it's being sort of spread around that I can swim in the ocean. By the way, we've basically ruined two of the train wreck documentary, so if you want to see a good, and I'm not going to spoil it for you, a good cruise-related documentary. Oh, I know which one you're talking about.

One with the same time, ready? One, two, three. Amy Bradley is missing. Yeah, there we go. I don't like that. That kind of freaks me out. Like, I saw, like, the trailer for that, you know. Because it's a true story, it weirds me out.

She jumped. We don't know that. We don't know that. No one knows that. That's what I think. Spoiler alert. Nobody knows anything. We don't know what happened.

But that's what I think. We know some good information. How'd that table get pushed up against the balcony? Again, don't spoil it. I'm only at episode one of Amy Bradley is missing. So I actually did not remember this story. And I don't know how it ends. But judging from the interviews from episode one with mom and dad,

It appears she's not back yet. So I'm not exactly sure what took place. Now he's spoiling a duck that he hasn't even seen. What are we doing? Nothing personal. David Sampson, Draft King's Network, every morning, Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. Eastern. That's the Lord's time zone.

Great job, David. Thanks, man. See you. See you, David. Mike Ryan, if you had $300 million, would you donate it to the University of Miami? I mean, donate the entirety of my $300 million. No, no, no, I didn't say that. You need to have a billion dollars to donate.

That's what I thought you said. But if I had $300 million, yeah, you can bet your bottom dollar that a lot of it's going to... Like, you don't have just $300 million in your bank account. No, you need money. You're not going to give all your money away. Can you buy me a new car? But if you have $300 million that you could donate to something if you wanted, you would

give it to you M? I would go... Well, you health, they have a lot of great medical facilities. And we've cut cancer research in this country. I think that a good amount of that would go there too, and that also benefits the athletics that I care deeply about. But a good amount would also go to the athletic department facilities. And, you know, Miami's a historical outlier. They don't have this big alumni base that they can tap into.

They have 17,000 kids enrolled in the school right now. That's peanuts compared to the likes of Ohio State. So Miami has to punch well above their weight class when it comes to resources. What do we name it after you? Yeah, you would want something. You want your name on something. There's been a gruey stuff already. Like, I have to clarify.

It's been a bit of a pickle for your boy. My movie theater sells pickles, yo. I'm on it, by the way, for those who are wondering, bottom dollar originated in the mid-1800s to poker reference when you stack up your bet. That bottom one being the last of your money. That's where it comes from. What are you laughing at, Stugatz?

Just you. Whatever that reference was. Stugats, you donate $300 million. All the cancer. No, it's a cancer research. All the cancer research. Yeah, you say you want to give it to cancer. That's the mistakes, do you've been giving it to cancer this whole time.

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