The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: When You Look At the Landscape

Episode Date: April 2, 2024

Are CDs going to make a comeback? Will nostalgia be enough? Have you ever burned a CD? Do you remember LimeWire? Then, we discuss the most annoying crowd behavior including unwarranted cheering, strange or empty chanting, and the wave. Plus, MLB jerseys are still terrible. Also, Rashee Rice and the halo of the Kansas City Chiefs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to DraftKings Network. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries

that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. Nostalgia is through the roof across all industries, right? Like people love nostalgia, nostalgic things, old candy from when they were growing up,

like the candy cigarettes, there's still some specialty stores that sell them. People love nostalgic cars, the classic cars, driving 85 Oldsmobile Cutlass, right? You think we'll ever bring typewriters back? They're already back, Jack. Are they? Yeah, like these hipster people

love writing on typewriters. Tom Hanks collects them, famously. What does he do with them? I saw in his house, he had a really cool display. He almost uses them as art pieces We're not talking about that. We're talking about people who actually use the intended purpose for the for the thing cross vinyl records certainly fit that vinyl records I can understand because the sound that comes out of vinyl is

Very different than what you hear from a digital audio or any other medium for the better But Chris was wondering if CDs are gonna make a comeback. Why is that funny? Why would CDs make a comeback? Why would vinyl make a comeback? Everything does. No, not everything. 8-Tracks never made a comeback.

Cassettes are still not back. But there's a difference now. Cassettes actually are kinda back. Yeah, cassettes are back and... What? No, they are. Jeremy, what do you mean? Jeremy, what do you mean, yeah Jeremy? I mean, so if you just-

Okay, go on anybody's like store on their website, any musician right now and you can find a cassette tape of their album. Any musician, name one. Name one, I'm about to Google it right now. I mean, I know, so. My favorite band is Bleachers. You can go on the Bleachers website and go look

and they have a cassette on there. You wanna go do it? It's not a thriving- We're gonna go through this? Yeah, it's not a thriving industry. Do cars come with cassettes anymore? No but it's not a thriving industry but a couple years ago much like vinyls were reintroduced musicians certainly top line ones and kitschy ones indie artists all alike started releasing cassettes again so they came back in ways that A-tracks weren't. Proceed. When I bought my last car I asked the dealer can I get a CD slot.

Why? Because I like CDs, I'm used to anyway. You like CDs? He said no. Like you can't even get that as an added luxury. I could just see it the way vinyl is now. I could see CD shops like being a thing. Let's have a CD party. Everyone bring a CD over. We'll have a... You guys never been to a vinyl party? No? Okay. Greg, do you have a back of my day today?

I do not, no. Because Dan's not here. That's a Tuesday gig. What? Only when Dan is here. That's the fine print? Yeah. That's not fine.

I mean, it's big print. It's bold. So many disclaimers, man. I know. Every Greg Cody bit has to come with that guy who speaks really fast at the end of it What river it is? I don't really know why cassettes came back that one surprised me when it did

I understand why vinyl came back audio files would always make a sound argument for it It just sounds better on this but CDs I don't really see what the argument would be for it to come back. Well, the convenience. I mean, you can fast forward on a CD. You can press a button and go right to the next song. I know, it's more convenient than a vinyl record player, but it's not more convenient than an MP3 player. Right, like it just has no place. I'm going to tell you, I'll give you a great example. When I worked in the NBA in the video coordinators department, right?

Every team had to make copies of the game for your opponent, right? At the end of the game, you give them two copies and then they would duplicate it later. It was on DVD back then. This was before it was all digital. There was two exceptions where you had to give them their copy of the game on VHS.

Houston with Jeff Van Gundy, Utah with Jerry Sloan. And I remember having a conversation with their video coordinators saying why the hell do they use VHS? They just they said they're used to and comfortable with the controls and I said but the controls for VHS are exactly the same as they are for a DVD. Play, fast forward, pause, rewind, differences on the DVD. You can skip. It's not about practicality.

This is about young people being like, oh, I never got to experience this. Let me check this out. It's so inconvenient. But that's not the point. It's not about the convenience. Chris is right. Gen Z and now Gen Alpha, they just think that stuff

from the aughts is cool because they didn't experience it. So the same way that that sort of style is coming back, right now, late 90s is really in. Soon it's gonna be throwback jerseys from the early 2000s. That's gonna be back in the next year. Everybody's gonna be wearing throwback jerseys. But that's exactly what this generation really likes. So this generation that can't sit down

and watch an entire basketball game, an entire football game, anything of length whatsoever, because they consume things on 10 seconds or less, wants to go back to a vehicle that if there is a CD with an album that has three good songs on it and 14 bad ones, you have to sit through 14 bad songs to get to three good songs? No, you can just hit next.

You just hit next. But why would I do that? But Tony also. It's also not to listen to it. It's also probably reserved for better albums. There's a part where the album or the CD has the slightest smudge on it and so when it get the songs ruined.

Your favorite part of the song. I love that though. That's so different than mine. You can buy me in the club, in the club, in the club, in the club, in the club, in the club, in the club. Ah. You just brought me back. I collect vinyl, which is not at all surprising.

Although I have to replace the needle, so I haven't bought a new one in about a year. But what I like about vinyls is you pour yourself a glass of wine, you kick back, you listen to an entire album, it's an experience, you physically hold this beautiful copy of something, a lot of them have cool inserts, I was a member of the Third Man Records Vinyl Club for a very long time, it's a full-on experience as opposed to just streaming and I usually reserve it for albums that I can listen to in length, It's not to skip any song.

So if you want that, you go to a digital player. But with an album that's reserved for, with a vinyl record that's reserved for an album that you rate highly, that you love, that you love start to finish. I can relate to what Mike is saying. Back in the day, and by the way, vinyl in headphones is extra special.

Spectacular. So what you do is you take an album that you love, Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon as an example, and you know you're going to devote an hour to listening to the whole album and it's a wonderful experience. It's got an ASMR element to it, the pin dropping, the fact you hold this vinyl in your hands, it's not just the listening sensation, it's got a smell to it. There's nothing quite like that sound. It's why so many people romanticize it. It's why it came back.

It's why you roll up a fat doobie and then just put on Dark Side of the Moon and watch Wizard of Oz at the same time. Yes! That's the big one. Dude, everybody had Bob Marley's greatest hits on vinyl. Every dorm. Legend?

Was that the name of the album? Bob Marley's greatest. I haven't, I haven't a frame in my house. It sounds staticky, a little overrated, this sound. It's part of the experience, cause then when you find the groove, finally, it's just great. It does make people happy, and yeah, there's a nostalgia element to it.

I don't see where CDs, I understand the nostalgia of a CD case. The book looks like 50 CDs. So, okay, so I was great. I am the You would get in someone's car and you would look through their thing and you would judge that in their door You pull it out the door. Yeah, or the visor had a visor Now now Jeremy whispered in my ear a question that offended me. I was offended by this question Jeremy

Can you say what you asked me? Did you ever burn someone a CD? that offended me. I was offended by this question, Jeremy. Can you say what you asked me? Did you ever burn someone a CD? Have you ever burned someone a CD? Yeah. He thinks you're old. Have I ever burned someone a CD? You know what, do you realize when I was in college,

I paid rent from bootlegging CDs? No, I didn't know that. Oh my God, what a time to be alive. I had the whole plug, because I was one of the early people on LimeWire to be downloading albums two weeks, three weeks, months before they came out. Then Burnham and then I would go on,

I lived in Atlanta at the time, I would go on Marta, which is the subway system. And I'd sell them for like $5 a pop. And so at first it was a little slow and then I saved up enough money to buy myself a CD player. And I literally just had a CD player just so people could sample it, and then they would start buying.

And the best seller I think I ever had was, I wanna say it was a Jay-Z album. I can't remember what it was now, but here's the fun part. When Jay-Z and R. Kelly, Best of Both Worlds came out, I thought, oh my god, my entire rent check is gonna get covered easily by this. Easily.

So I remember going on the subway, I said, hey, got that new Jay-Z, R. Kelly, and people were like, yeah. Back in the day, that was a huge deal in terms of piracy. To get it out before it came out, it was a massive deal. That was a big leak. You're admitting to a crime. No, no, no.

Statute of limitations. Statute of limitations. I really should have used oracle terminology there. What would J. Cole say about this? Statute of limitations. So I'm going up to people, people are like, yeah, I don't really like that.

I don't listen to that. I'm like, what? And I'm just going and I'm getting no buzz back. And then finally I said, what do you mean? You don't listen to Jay-Z and R. Kelly. And the girl says to me, I don't listen to him. And that's when I realized, oh, this R. Kelly thing is a lot bigger than just something

that people are talking about behind the scenes or whatever on internet message boards. It has reached a point where it's affecting my pockets. And that's when I became staunchly anti-artist. There is something that I romanticize about that era where you get, all right, Fabulous just dropped a banger of a song. Can't deny it.

Here we go. I've just spent three hours downloading this song on Bearishare. Here we go. And then three seconds in, no Fabulous! This is what happened the first time I downloaded Best of Both Worlds. You got the Hannah Montana song?

No I put it in, I press play, download it and I got the best of both worlds oh oh oh and I was like alright cool got it. It looped for 55 minutes. Dude I had the same exact leaked version that Limewater got me too. I sold it to my buddy, my buddy came back to me and said, hey man, what's up? It was a weird choice. No, he was like, I was like, yeah, it's the album.

He's like, no man, I'm like, yeah, I heard Jay-Z say. You gotta listen to it first, man. I played for the team I own, I was like, yeah, it's a crazy bar, I was like, yeah. And then R. Kelly just keeps singing and repeating over and over after that. And I listened to it longer than 40 seconds. Another underrated experience from the CD era

is forgetting where you stashed your CDs and then having to go through the visor real quick because the sun hits you in the face and then boom, you get clocked right between the eyes by Juvenile's 400 degrees. Oh, I'll tell you one that's even better than this. Jeremy, this is what would happen. You would have this big rack,

everyone had this big rack in their house, right? And that was the showcase. These are the movies I have and these are the CDs I have. And so you say, oh cool, I've been looking for this album. You open it up and the CD in there is not the CD that's on the outside of the case. Yep. I can relate to that. Do you have that with VHS tapes, Greg? This is a new and improved down-vatar show with Stugats. Gamble on by DraftKings. Stugats here for my friends over at Simply Safe.

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None of these are the nominees that I have. It's not specifically crowd behavior as much as crowd reactions. Okay. So in baseball, in baseball, when there's a fly ball hit, fans automatically- Oh! Even when it's a-

Whoa! Yeah. Pop fly to seconds. It's infuriating because it's a, whoa! Yeah. Oh. Pop fly to second. It's infuriating because it's so obvious off the bat that that is not going to be a home run. It's a lazy fly ball.

It's obvious for us baseball guys. Cause I am like Jeremy, I judge. I'm the guy that's like, it's a routine fly ball. Why are you guys getting excited? I mean the pitchers arm is going up. Like it's a pop up. What's worse, the fan that gets super excited and thinks of a routine fly ball is a home run or me the person that is like I have to let everyone know that

it's not. Yes. By the way has there ever been an outfielder who needed the pitcher to raise his hand to know that it's a fly ball? Maybe. Yeah many Ramirez played baseball for a while. Ice cream can of corn. That's a good way of signifying, but the other fan behavior, the other fan behavior that is similar to this one in basketball, in your sport, Naveen,

is when there's a foul already committed and the players continue, but then, and make a shot, make a layup or go dunk. Take six steps. The defense has already clearly ended. They're just practicing, shooting a three, you know, and other players going up, trying to block it from within the rim.

And everybody goes crazy when the ball goes in, as if a three pointer was just made. And it's so obvious that there has, not even the no basket, Roy, it's such a dead ball that there's no announcers, no one needs to declare. They don't address it. It's not even addressed in the stadium.

Which is more annoying to you, the fans who react to that shot or the fans that react to a fly ball? I'll be honest, I'm not as annoyed by either. I think it's funny when the basketball one happens because it's like, are these people so locked in that they didn't hear the whistle, or are they so not locked in that they didn't realize

no one is playing anymore, everyone just stopped? For me, it's hockey when fans are urging these players to shoot when they clearly don't have a shooting lane. Shoot, shoot! Like, the shot's gonna get blocked. Is there a football equivalent of like an annoying thing that the crowd would? I'm still caught up on Tony not liking the beach ball.

I mean that to me, if I see that thing, I'm like bring it over here. Boom, I love hitting that thing. Beach ball. The wave is the worst though. That we can all agree. They both, we can kind of be done with them. At UFC events, one thing I love that the crowd does is

They'll yell Grab his dick and twist it before they storm the Capitol So Jesus Wait, they yell that no because no nobody in baseball has ever talked about Weird thing to say is that is that something that happens in the UFC a lot? I've been guilty of it. It's like is it one of those Do they do it when there's a lull in the action? Yes, that's when you have to do it it comes to yeah coming to Crystal clear the entire stadium most certainly come into Lincoln Financial Field on Saturday and Sunday when I'm there for mania

Most certainly coming to Lincoln Financial Field on Saturday and Sunday when I'm there for mania. 100%. That's cool though, that's a cool thing the crowd does. Greg, anything to add? Any sport thing to throw in there? You know what I always get amused by in basketball when a guy misses a free throw and all his teammates have to like give him, you know, touch his hand and give him support, moral support. Like he's so down about missing a few. You don't like the free throw high fives? No, not really, no. Greg, it's less support and more OCD. They're just into this routine of like, make or miss, I've got to high five everybody.

And then they reach back for the guy behind him and sometimes no one's even there. It's weird to me. And then Kevin Love does the, I'll dab myself up, it's all right. Josh Hart is also a big self-dapper. Or how about on free throws when an MVP candidate? Who is not an MVP candidate gets the MVP treatment and you're like

Like LaMelo ball getting MVP Taco fall I feel like that is Decidedly 21st century ma'am thing like they didn't do this in the 20 CB, right? Like what like in the 90s your MVP's in 20 CB. Like back then, if you got the MVP chant, you were legitimately one of like the three guys. But now it's every team's best player. Jimmy Butler, while he's our MVP,

is never gonna be in the running for league MVP. So it's like, does he deserve that chant? I am kind of annoyed by that now that I think about it. I'm like, come on, what are you saying? It's like patronizing at one point. It's like, you know I'm not gonna win MVP. Why are you chanting MVP? Jimmy Butler's like, I'm like, yeah, come on, what are you doing? It's like patronizing at one point. Yeah. It's like, you know I'm not going to win MVP. Why are you chanting MVP? Jimmy Butler's like, I'm 27th in voting right now,

or like the odds. Especially when it's a sad chant, you know, when it picks up a little bit and then just peters out. Oh, that might be worse. Yeah, that might be the worst thing. The chants that never really pick up beyond a section. Yeah.

Like they start, and you kind of hear faintly someone else kind of like, OK, Envy, no one else is doing this, I quit. That is so depressing. Yeah, you hear that in a Marlins game, even when they're not 0-5. You know, the let's go Marlins chant, it's over in the left field bleachers, and then it just never, you know,

nobody takes it out. No, what you hear there is a chant for the opposing team, and then Marlins fans start booing. It's like, let's go Mets, let's go booing. That's when they get loud. I love that, it's like that's the line. We're not gonna chant, but you definitely can't chant. Shut the hell up.

I will never forget though, I was I guess nine years old at 2004 opening day for the Marlins and I was in a section where there were a bunch of what I thought at the time were grown adults and were probably like college age kids who were drunk out of their minds. Nine years old. I was nine years old. Everyone was drinking beer.

Well, exactly. You were one of the college kids. Right, you were probably one of those kids. And there were this group of guys in my section and there was a new first baseman for the Marlins and they were just all game long. He's Sop Choi! He's Sop Choi! That was actually me. He's Sop Choi! He's Sop Choi! He's Sop Choi!

That was actually me. That was 100% me. Were you really? You might have been sitting right behind me. I was that college kid. That was long haired bike, right? Yeah. That right?

That error, right? The flow? I remember being at a camp at Pro Player Stadium. This is like back in the day when I was probably like 14 or 15 and sitting in the outfield and heckling the shit out of Lance Berkman before I even knew who he was. When he was like a young guy before he-

Diploma. I was just like- I don't remember what I was yelling, but I just have a memory of heckling and just being the worst. I had a run of 15 to 19. I wasn't saying inappropriate stuff, but I was just the guy that was gonna,

you stink! Does your father know about that? Yeah, Greg. I remember that. Did you ever have to reprimand him for his behavior? I rarely went with my dad. I was usually with friends. My dad was like working the game usually.

Those years were not your best. Who's at their best those years? Who won? Who looks back at like 15 to 19? I really had life figured out. Mike Dexter. We'd go on family vacations when Christopher was like 16. We don't have to like get in everything.

Oh, now we can't get in anything. And they would spend the whole time just fighting with each other. Oh, 16 and a 12 year old fighting. That's just so unpredictable. You fought your 12 year old brother? Not like physically. We're on a European vacation.

We're in Rome and these two are just fighting with each other like they're in their own homes. We're kids. We're in Rome, that's true. That's a good point. Were they slapping and doing the... Yeah, yeah, exactly. Were they doing the, don't touch me, I'm not touching you,

and put the finger right in there. Looks like you've experienced with that. Yo, the sibling greatest hits, oh my God. How about just the repeat whatever they say? Oh yeah. Stop copying me, I'm not copying you. I do that with my daughter too, she hates it. Yeah, I used to do this, I used used to do this the most annoying sound in the world

The monotone uh that sounds like when you decided to start the segment with Lucy that question when you know Get his ass Jeremy. It also sounds like the first note of your Obama. Oh man. That is really annoying. Hmm Yeah, it's pretty bad Yeah, the breeze sometime, you know, yeah quit that this is actually really impressive. Please stop Greg is this taking you back to the Eternal City with Chris and Michael No, they were more physical than that. They weren't this impressive The breath control. Yeah, you're cool. You're like Kenny G, like breathing while doing it. Crazy throat on a mean.

Oh, there it is, hey! All right, yeah. I wish I'd have been timing that. Did you hit a minute? Oh, man. When you look at what's happening, I just love that, you cut it off too soon, you gotta get the landscape of women's college basketball.

That was a dead giveaway that I had nothing. I was up in the air, I was following the parachute. That didn't work. The backup. Ripping the cord, it's not working. Especially because you were bragging all show about how we weren't talking about the landscape of women's college basketball.

And it was like, we're talking basketball. And it was, when you take a look at women's college basketball and it was like we're talking basketball and it was uh, when you take a look at women's college basketball. When you look at what's happening, when you look at what's happening. When you look at what's happening. Such a crutch. I do that a lot.

I do that on radio interviews a lot where it'll be my turn to ask the question and I'll forget and then I realize, oh it's my turn. When you look at, that means I have no idea what it is. You also sense of, the move also is, Lucy, let me ask you a question. It's like, she's here to answer questions, so you could probably just get with it.

No, that's more of a verbal take. When you look at the landscape, that is absolutely, I have nothing. Yeah, you're buying yourself five seconds. When you look at what's happening, look at what's happening. Come on, man. What is happening?

What's happening with MLB uniforms, Mike? They're terrible. And we knew this, we knew this headed into the season, but I guess having not the spring training sets, the actual regular season sets, you realize how bad they screwed the pooch here And Major League Baseball Nike fanatics. They've done the cost analysis It's not like they don't know these things are bad. And when I say they're bad, they are really really bad So you saw some dick prints? So what actually you're not seeing that much dick dents You're actually seeing mismatched colors on Road Grays

The tops for several teams more than a handful are not matching the pants They look like baby blue tops by comparison to some of the pants It's really bad not to mention some of the fits are pretty bad and also what? fanatics and MLB, glad you seized on that. You'll dig twice. Twist the dick.

What fanatics and MLB touted was performance wear. That was what was in the press releases and all that and how they justified moving to a different uniform template. Where's the performance wear? Because when I watch some of these teams wearing their road greys, I see sweat stains everywhere in ways that I used to not. And also, and this thing has actually gone under reported, you know how certain teams have designated uniforms for certain days?

Yes. My Mariners are among them. They have these cream colored uniforms that they wear on Sundays. The St. Louis Cardinals recently famously have these baby blue, genuine baby blue, not mismatched road greys situation. These teams are forced to wear different uniform sets because, quote, the uniforms are not ready yet. Wow.

Certain teams are- I'm sorry? The uniform sets for these designated days just as the Mariners being one, the famous powder blue, St. Louis Cardinals Sunday road set, they're not ready. And in some cases, they're not gonna be ready until June.

I feel like these are issues that never used to exist, Greg. No, not in my life. This is a new and improved down- with our show with the stugas gamble on by DraftKings Don Lebatard, I got somebody here making fun of me. How old do you have to be to reference Shecky Green, man? I went comedically there with the funny name of a comedian That's on you for not knowing who Shecky Green is. You don't have to know who Shecky Green is But I know no, I don't like my know who shecky green is, but I-

Oh, here's your ally. No, no, yeah, I don't like my allies here. The king of the borscht belt. Stugatz. Um, I have the soul of a borscht belt comedian. I should be in the Catskills in 1945, opening for Shecky Green. That's who I was destined to be. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugatz. Who gots? Greg, a lot of times we forget kind of what the toxic mix of incredible amounts of disposable

income and the folly of youth provide. Most regular people, I would say, most regular, but not everybody, but most regular people, I would say, most regular, but not everybody, but most regular people, when you're 21, 22, 23 years old, you're not making a lot of money. You're living fairly meager means, you haven't made anything of yourself yet, and so it's hard to kind of remember as we get older,

and do have disposable income, but also have the hindsight of maturity that when you were 22, 23, you were a real reckless piece of shit, right? I know I can tell a million stories of me at 23 doing things that were just ridiculously dumb, but I did them in anonymity and I did them without a whole lot of disposal income to fuel them.

Pro players in major sports like the NFL, like Rashid Rice of the Kansas City Chiefs, don't have the benefit of anonymity and they are aided by loads of disposable income. And so Saturday, allegedly he was in a crash in Dallas, his hometown, that was the result of racing cars, a Corvette and a Lamborghini. And here's the video right here from the dash cam of somebody. Scary as shit.

Yeah, like imagine you just driving on a Saturday afternoon, maybe coming back from the farmer's market, get you some plums. Some honey? Yeah. Ooh, some plums. Yeah, ripe and juicy. My wife, Donna. Ready for the taking, yeah.

And then all of a sudden, zoom, zoom, around you come these two automobiles flying at dangerous speeds At and Colliding and then getting out of the car and they get out of the car and not suddenly walking away in the middle of the highway and I guess Mike let me start with you because Rashi Rice wasn't exactly like an altar boy.

No, when there was draft evaluation, and dating back to his playing days, there were whispers about off the field concerns with him, and it was certainly a part of the draft narrative around them. If you were just introduced to Rashi Rice over the course of this season, he was very much a face of their social media presence, really presented well in interviews, seemed like a really fun guy.

Maybe it was a case of a kid maturing at the next level. Certainly at the very least from this video, what we can tell is this is a very immature act, but the Kansas City Chiefs, they kind of do this. There is another franchise in the league that would have signed Matt Arisa, in the fashion that they did post Super Bowl glow. And dating back to previous GMs, they would often take character risk. And now they have Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey as well, players with pretty sterling reputations that allow this franchise to take some chances that others typically decide against. And that's what winning buys you.

This is the Patriots way. The Patriots did this famously probably better than anybody else of saying, hey, we've got a halo here, and so the halo is going to cover for maybe some of these less than scrupulous kind of people. By the way, same thing happened in San Antonio in the NBA. There are a lot of people, Steven Jackson, my good friend Steven Jackson. He had a checkered past and you know he got his first start with the with the Nets played well and then the Spurs picked him up and The thought was yeah, the Spurs picked him up because they knew they could afford To because they were the guys with the clean cut guys and the good guys they could afford to take on a bad boy

I can't even imagine and I don't think most of us can I can't imagine at age? 2022 Going from very little money to that kind of money It must be like all of a sudden you you hit the lottery all of a sudden you are a millionaire Overnight and you're buying a Lamborghini and if you're buying a Lamborghini by the way, you like fast cars You're not buying that to go the speed limit right i mean it's a lamborghini so it's a warning flag you know pro teams they should have an assistant coach or somebody and maybe they do you would know better than i

somebody whose only job is to lead these players into maturity and into making smart decisions and everything so they they do. I mean just because one player has an off-field incident doesn't mean that that's not the case. It should be sated. There was also a statement from Rishi Rice's attorney. What was being put out there for a full weekend was that police were looking for him and then the statement came early yesterday morning that according to Rishi Rice's Attorney that he's actually been cooperating with authorities which actually went against some of the stuff that we had heard reported I think and I mean correct me if I'm wrong

I think that's what your vets are for in the locker room, right? Like your older guys that have been there 10 15 years in the game have the money have made multi-million dollar contracts before are Giving you the game of hey, maybe Street racing not something we do around here, but then you look at the the roster construction For the Chiefs fairly young roster in some aspects, right? You have my homes You have Kelsey you have a couple guys in the offensive line But a lot of young guys on offense and defense who's there really stepping in and talking to him being like yo we don't do this we can't do this you got to watch your money now that's a felony if you're in hit and

run and it's gone like a lot of things happen there's a couple of things going on number one yes your vets that's what you expect your vets to do in NFL locker rooms it seems to be a lot more segmented by position like the people you hang out with every day so if you got a young receiving quarter who's a vet there the other part is man at the end of the day, this isn't college. Like, I can be a vet and tell a guy, hey man, we don't do that, whatever.

He's gonna do what he, when he leaves the practice facility, he's gonna do what he wants to do. I'll tell you a great example, though, Greg. You brought up like going from no money to having money. I used to, when we draft players, I would be the first person they'd see when they'd come fly in the day after the draft.

I'd help them get set up where to live, I would get a car, all those things. Summer league, we'd work with them on the court. Everything up to basically until we get to camp. Right, so I was kind of a guy who held a lot of guys' hands in that regard, but one of my favorite things that happened in the middle of summer, because it wouldn't be right after the draft,

it would be right before we go to summer league a lot of times, was when they signed their first deal. And before they signed, I would say stop and wait a second, because you'll never have a moment like this. You can end up being a Hall of Famer. You can sign three max deals after this. You will never have the moment from being dead broke to a millionaire that's gonna happen right now.

This is it. This is the biggest fulcrum in your life. Because everything else after this is gonna feel like par for the course. Hey, I signed a max deal. Yeah, well, I was a millionaire before. Now I'm a multimillionaire. But going from millionaire to multimillionaire, I mean, there's some lifestyle changes, but it's nowhere near as much as ramen noodles to five-star restaurants, Michelin star,

whenever I want, right, for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. When you're talking about someone that young experiencing that rapid a financial shift, it's really hard to tell them what to do man. It's really hard to tell them what to do and what not to do with your money. For one, it feels like it's never gonna run out. Like what are you talking about? I just got a check for $500,000. What do you mean? I gotta save it or I gotta, I $500,000 what do you mean I got to save it or I got a I got can't what it's I got another one coming in two weeks I'm

gonna spend this money I'm gonna do this at least treat myself is what a lot of guys will say I'm not gonna do this forever I'm just gonna treat myself with this first check right and then the other part of it is, again, like, hey, I did save my money. I did do all the responsible things. This is my disposable income. And you know what I'm gonna dispose it with? A fast car. And like you said, Greg,

I didn't buy a fast car to go 55. Right. I bought a fast car to see how fast it can go and basically play Gran Turismo in real life. And when you're talking about someone who's that young, it's, I don't know. I don't know if there is a way that you can foolproof it other than what Mike is talking about,

just drafting people who are just straight-laced, whatever, but sometimes the value- I wasn't insinuating that, and there was plenty of examples of people correcting some of their behavior and maturing at the next level. Look, Kansas City is, even though some of these players have maintained off the field antics, Tyree Kale famously among them, they've had plenty of on field success in doing things this certain way.

Hopefully this kind of reads like something that thankfully it didn't it wasn't a Henry Rugg situation no one was seriously injured there. This reads like something that a good attorney provided that there is actual cooperation that he can get out of without serving jail time and hopefully it takes the opportunity to to mature. This is you had plenty of success already you have people on your team that can teach you how to be pros. So now the league has a discipline now. Yeah, probably in the neighborhood of four games if we're looking at precedent considering also it really does help us gaze at... But what's the precedent? Hold on, what's the precedent?

I've seen people... I've seen people come in when something like this happens. It depends on what the police end up doing here. But four games has been tossed around by people that follow this sport. So we'll see. I should be clear. It's unclear right now if Rice was driving

or if he was just a passenger in the car. Of course it stands to reason that he's the millionaire who owns the car. Of course he would be driving, but we don't know. The statement that I saw from his attorney did not try to say he wasn who owns the car. Of course he would be driving, but we don't know. The statement that I saw from his attorney did not try to say he wasn't behind the wheel. Didn't also say that he was behind the wheel, but typically if that's gonna be the defense,

the attorney would come out. The car is registered in his name. Yes, it is his car, but we don't know if he was driving. Police said four people were injured and two were hospitalized, so there's that. This is one of them weird stories, like what's the takeaway, Greg? No, it's not a clock. Okay, you got me paranoid.

He was so scared. I know, I just gave a quick glance, but apparently it was a very obvious glance. Well, look, if you're a team executive and your suddenly rich rookie buys a Lamborghini, is that a red flag with you? And is there anything to be done about that? Because back in the day you could put in a contract you can't own a motorcycle. Motorcycles, yeah. Right.

Does the CBA still allow for that kind of language in a contract? Motorcycles, mopeds, jet skis, snowboarding, skiing. But not Lamborghini's? But not Lamborghini's because it's a car car I don't think you get into the yeah, very much if someone told you you couldn't have a Corvette I'm a grown-ass man. Who's not who's not filthy rich. I can't afford a Lamborghini. Well, I probably can but I'll know that Tom Brady got suspended four games for smashing a cell phone. Let me tell you anecdotally, I have driven on a racetrack, Christopher you were there when I was on a racetrack driving a Lamborghini type car and I think I topped out at like 140 miles an hour.

It is absolutely terrifying to go that fast. There's the feeling of a new and improved that level that show with the still gots gamble on by draft keene's and in a Lamborghini goes that fast