The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Whose Shoes Are Whose?

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

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I couldn't because when I went out there, Ethan shoved Taylor under the bus and said, Taylor hasn't seen Raiders of the Lost Ark either. Taylor's a different kind of guy. The problem with Taylor is that he's never seen anything. Any movie. Any movie whatsoever. He just watches tape.

That's it. No, he watches Kings of Queens, and that's it. That and everybody loves Raymond. That's what it does. He doesn't watch anything else. Doug Heffernan, he's a big Doug Heffernan guy. Is that what he's telling me? He's a big Jerry Stiller guy.

Oh, Jerry Stiller's the best man, RIP. The bulk of it's tough. But Raiders of the Lost Ark, this is like required viewing, right? Like- One of the greatest movies of all time. Greatest movies of all time. Easily.

And my, so my kids, I showed my kids Rocky for the first time last weekend. Watched Rocky for the first time. And I was worried because you know, Rocky is slow. It's slow. I was well No, no My kids watch Violence is not the violence. We agree that rock at the T early in the game. Yes, like from day one He came into the pros with CTE agreed. Okay advanced. It was like the fun guy should have been fighting

How did it we can look back and be like hey? Maybe you should just keep the warehouse job. How did it go though? Because I'm worried about that that film agent Especially with a younger demo. It's risky It's it was so I was worried it would be too slow for them because it's a great film And you want them to feel what you felt? but the times may change with it they liked it they liked it that's good the two they like the ending cuz the end they love that they were confused by the ending they're like wait who won it wasn't clear and I was like yeah I'll pop it clear you know it's it but it's kind of no celebration you can

see how people are confused or the way it's not combat sport is kind of you should not land the way it's shot first all, like my kids don't watch boxing, so the idea of like, the first judge had it, 115, they don't know what's happening. Number two, the announcement is actually in the background, because the foreground is Rocky going, Rocky! Rocky! Like so, and then they hug, and they see Apollo jumping,

they don't know what, they're like, wait, who won? So I had to explain that to them. other notes that we got right number two is When's I have the tiger come on and I have to explain them guys guys Rocky three which which led me to should I skip watching rocky to know no rocky to is good Is it all you got to do rocky to the one I've seen the least of in my life. There's only one that you skip, and it's Rocky V. Oh, that never happened. But you know what? I like Rocky V, man.

I don't know what y'all think. In my older age, I have become a lot more appreciative of Rocky V. I showed my kid one through four, and we went one day binge watched all of them. That's four age now. Oh, four is great. Four is pretty good.

Four is great. Yeah, but there's so much ambiguity now. Oh, oh yeah, well are they are, no actually now it's more resonant than ever. Like 15 years ago I was like, what? Why are we mad at this Russian guy? Like now it's like, yeah, he's back. They were trying to do this.

We're back, Cold War back baby, 20 CB. Is that how you see it? When's Mason the line Dixon? That's six. Rocky Balboa. I call it Rocky six, I'm not gonna do, and I call Creed Rocky seven, and I call Creed Rocky seven. And I call Creed two Rocky eight.

What? Yes, it's all Rocky. Rocky eight is wild. Rocky wasn't even in eight. He wasn't in the second one? No. I wouldn't mean. The Creed series slowly making its way onto

Dude, Creed is good. To go black movie franchises. Creed is really good by the way. Rocky seven is like my third favorite Rocky. Rocky seven is really good man. Rocky seven's awesome. Rocky seven. Rocky rocky eight and bad either That's the one with Drago Sun right? Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, no rocky eight is fire, bro

What are you talking about rocky nine was the one with down in majors again good? That's bad. I haven't seen that one. I don't think that's the one. I haven't seen maybe we'll work our way up Yeah, no, he's working his way back Do you want me to give you the little synopsis for did you just want to watch it? It's like his friend was it goes to prison who's the better boxer right when they were younger goes to prison comes back Anyway, and then Jonathan majors feels like Creed took his life Yeah Is he support is down major was be like kind of like clubber Lang not quite but a little bit of that like more evil He's a bad

Clubber Lane was not a bad dude. Clubber Lane? Hold on, Clubber Lane. Clubber Lane was not a good dude. No, no, no, this guy's a bad dude. Say one! This guy's a bad dude. This guy's a bad dude. Although his narrative just gets fast forwarded, the pacing on Rocky Nine ain't great. Okay.

I love that we're calling it Rocky Nine. It's Rocky Nine. He gets a world title shot very quickly. But you guys are telling me Rocky Two has the replay, the rewatch value, right? Well, Rocky 2 has, it tells a story that everybody was like, well, Rocky 1 could have been better.

How do we make Rocky 1 better? But by telling a similar story. Yeah, and help and making sure he wins. Yeah, secret sauce. Secret sauce. So this is what I believe. There ain't gonna be no rematch. Yeah, people, yeah, that's when they're hugging

in the Rocky 1, right? Yup, yup's when they're hugging at the end of Rocky I, right? But there was. And they're, oh, new one! As Creed taught us, there were two rematches. Yeah. Man. We recorded an episode of Cinephobe Top Five the other day, and we were talking about worst parents

in Cinephobe history, and I submitted, as one of my outside looking ins, Rocky in Rocky IV, because he's so sick and tired of being a dad and being a husband, he decides to fight in Russia on Christmas Day. Just get me away from my family as far as possible on Christmas Day. And then Adrienne shows up. She shows up anyway, because she's a CT-5 or spouses.

Just nagging. Had to follow him across. You're not gonna win, Rocky! Yeah, she's just, you can't win! You'll see, you know how strong he is. CT five more spouses just nagging had to Annoying shrill boys shrill. He should have took the fight I mean, could we not could we not be honest and say he shouldn't have fought the dude who? Anybody shouldn't have fought the dude Apollo should not have got the dude Apollo shouldn't have it was an exhibition He didn't know the doom was gonna go like that Rocky shouldn't have fought him. It was an exhibition, he didn't know the dude was gonna go like that. Rocky shouldn't have fought him

after he watched him kill Apollo. Rocky should have thrown the towel earlier. But again, think about it. Rocky gets a concussion every major, he's clearly concussed. He is a concussion. Can we get an independent neurologist out here? That didn't exist at that time.

Or do we, is this shot that important? 20 CB, they just give you the smelling salts. You're good, he's good, he's awake again. Look at my finger, all right, he's good, go. A walking concussion go a walking concussion Walking concussion think about this Rocky left his wife and child on Christmas to go to Russia Communist Russia to go fight a dude who murdered his friend in the ring Like you know how much of a bad husband and a bad father you have to be to be like I'm gonna do this over here

On Christmas. He's good. He's a good husband, he still visits the grave. He's a great friend too. As Rocky. Oh, as Rocky VII. Michael Jordan. As Rocky VII, H. Well, and then he was not in nine. No.

Michael Jordan would never fight the person who ended up killing you in the ring for you. That's fair. So this is why Rocky is maybe one of the best friends in- I didn't say, he's a great friend. And why are you boxing trucks? I think we got a LeBron windy situation here. He never said he was his best friend.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All he said is go to the funeral. He's gonna go to the funeral. Only friends go to funerals. That's not true. I've gone to a lot of funerals. Why do we keep having a meme die before Michael Jordan? A meme started?

He's got the premonition. He's going to do it. Number one. Because he wants Michael Jordan to go to his funeral. He's going to make sure it happens. LeBron's not the only person spending seven figures on their body. Michael Jordan has, except it's just cognac and cigars. But still, look at George Burns.

He lived to like 112 or whatever, so there it is. That's crazy. Hawk. Millions of cognac and cigars a year on your body. or whatever, so there it is. You, Hawk, let me get away from this before he decides he's not gonna come back. Yeah, he's not gonna. You see how I'm trying to dig into it? I'm trying to make sure I keep my money, like I can't believe all you said he spends his money

on his cigars and cognac. Mike, I'm sorry, I was just playing. I'll play, you know I like to play, Mike. With friends like you, who needs enemies. I like Tennessee, too. So, Hawk. I like him. I like him.

Mike's not drinking Hennessy, by the way. Yeah, he's... Remy? Louis the 13, baby. A little higher. Hawk, you had umbraance, you took umbraance, you took issue with something that Dan said on the show

about, was it Russell Wilson? Yeah, Russell Wilson, about how it's so sad that he gets to go make up to $21 million with the New York Giants, and that it's a terrible ending to a career. I completely disagree with that take. I think he might be the happiest person in all of free agency.

Dude, you get to live your, it's like, what do they call them, when people go play, not fantasy baseball, but like when people pay a bunch of money to go play on Yankee State. Like Billy Crystal? Yeah, like fantasy camp, right? Except it's real. Except it's real. Except it's real.

Like that's crazy, it's like going to Westworld for Russell Wilson, right? Yeah. You go in there and like, oh yeah, these robots are actually trying to kill me. I can't see a world at all where Russell Wilson, I'm not even kidding, not even a single point of it, I can see where he would be disappointed in how things transpired, especially given where he was with the Denver Broncos, and he was positive

in that situation, and it was clearly him and his coach did not get along, His coach hated his guts. He got cut in a season where he was playing decent. And the thing about it is he didn't finish last year great. He is aging, everyone does. He's not a young quarterback. But he's not playing that far off of the way that he's always played.

And that is just the elements around him. And now he gets to go to New York media market with his superstar wife. And back into, yeah, Sierra's a superstar. She was a superstar. We're doing this off of follows. She was a superstar. She was a huge superstar.

She's more famous worldwide. Yes, yes. I would argue she's more famous now than she's ever been. Nah, that can't be true. One, two step, sir. That you guys are living in a moment. Like she's more visible now. No, she, no, no, can't be true. One, two step, sir? That you guys are living in a moment. Like she's more visible now. No, she's not.

With the injection of sports. She had the biggest song on the planet. The biggest song on the planet. She had the Missy Cosines. I think you guys are really, really into hip hop at the time. At that time? Absolutely. It was certifiably one of my passions Hundred percent I still think

Come on man, I didn't say it wasn't fire I didn't say I wasn't in the party's going hammer come on I'm just saying she's still a superstar she and they're now in the media market of New York as opposed to Western Pennsylvania. Sure, no look, hey man. You know what else grinds my gears? I'm sorry to cut you off. We were doing this thing, we let Dan perpetuate this. Aaron Rodgers and Suh gots the last five games, last five games. And then I look at Russell Wilson's last five games, very comparable except Russell Wilson was actually playing real teams in real games. Yeah, meaningful. Meaningful football. Against teams trying to win their football games instead of whatever the hell they had going on with a jet

Now do that with Aaron Rodgers over the last three years and you will see that it's the same thing I'm gonna he's played better than and he's five years younger more excited about Aaron I'm gonna tell you right now don't look now, but I think what's worse is gonna do better in New York than Aaron Rodgers did mmm, oh Wait, it's time New game I like that don't look now. It's not a new game, and it's a terrible game I'm glad you said don't look now. I'm glad you said don't look now. Go ahead Roy. I don't look now It's presented by smirnoff the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly Tony absolutely isn't a world's number one vodka

Okay, okay boy. It's obviously we talked about Russell Wilson that's on my don't look now she's concerned about a lot of things Tony before you start well number one I don't know what Mike is doing to Pat Riley that yeah I know that Pat Riley has a case an HR case number two you guys have recruited Andrew Hawkins into this I wish I got a real blindfold well I gotta close your your eyes at least. Okay, they're closed. Okay, good. Don't look now. We haven't even mentioned this on the show I don't know who's behind me. We have it. What what is that Riley? Don't look now Stefan Diggs is a patriot Yeah, not mentioned not uttered once on this show by the way last week stuff on digs now with Drake May

Interesting interesting veteran receiver veteran presence. Is it a good veteran presence? I don't know. That's why we're not looking. He wasn't that great. This is the first piece of analysis Mike has ever offered in this segment. That is true. But again, Mike likes it, Drake May. Hawk, what do you think? Getting a veteran guy in there trying to help him out? You got it. You got to develop your young quarterback. You know who's really good at helping develop young

quarterbacks with rocket arms at six foot five with a lot of potential? Stefan Diggs. Josh Allen. Ring a bell anybody? I love it. Mack Hollins at the two. What if they go up and draft Travis Hunter too? Nice little one, two, three.

I can't believe how much we talk about Mack Hollins. Taylor introduced me to that name like a year and a half ago. And now he's a superstar like Sierra. I like how we barricaded Mike by the good job, Billy. I have no idea what Mike's doing because I'm not looking now. There you go. Don't look now. And it's actually gaining steam.

Diana Racini commented on this and reported this earlier today. You guys talking to the mic. Where's my mic? You gotta talk into it, Mike. The Packers, the mic. Where's my mic? You got to talk into it. The Packers, the Packers were one of the teams that tried to ban the push, the tush push. Oh, and now it's starting to gain some steam where across the league there may be some people sled by the Packers that want to cancel the push push. Gotta do it. Has to happen. There we go. I'm back. All right. what else do I have here? Don't look now.

You're looking at your paper. Well, how is that possible? Why not? It's the psychic thing where I can see where the covenant is. I just can't see exactly where. How many soldiers? 200. Sorry.

Vikings have not. Yeah, hold on. The Vikings have not. I got his hand. I got his hand. The Vikings have not commented on the QB one for their team. Is it gonna be JJ McCarthy?

Could it be Aaron Rodgers? They haven't closed the door yet. Don't look down. Hawk, how surprised are you that the door isn't closed on Aaron Rodgers everywhere? I'm not surprised, because he's such a, he is a great talent, and he still is one of the best 32 quarterbacks in the league, physically The question is what comes along with him

off the field and being a 42 year old in a locker room that you don't really feel like you need to be subjected to everything every player is subjected to? How does that, how does that play? Let me ask you a question. Okay. As you got older was there any part of the locker room environment that you were like I'm too old for this? Not necessarily the physical, but just like. So much of it. By the time I retired, when I got plus 30,

I hung out more with the coaches than I did the players. Just because I'm married with kids. You got 21 year olds coming in here with music, I don't know, I was very much the old guy. That's how me and Joe Thomas became friends because he's an office of linemen, I'm a wide out, but we're both old as hell. And he was the only person I could talk to about like

older person things in the locker room. So you get, it loses you quick. Yeah. So, and you said you hang out with the, with the, with the coaches. How do the coaches receive that? Like, is there any part of it? Oh, okay. I gotta see.

I gotta look now. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's segment's over. Segment's been over. Nobody was going to tell me. We just wanted to see how... Yeah, segment's over. Segment's been over. Nobody was gonna tell me. We just wanted to see how much longer you were to go. Yeah. Alright.

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A working man? A working man. I just saw the preview right now. Where's my laptop? It's always in occupation. It's like wrestlers in the early 90s, late 80s. I love these new Statham movies, which is always, I'm just a guy minding my business,

but then somebody messes with an innocent person. But I'm also an elite fighter. Someone messes with an innocent person in my life. Steven Seagal? I don't like that. I can't do a Statham. So I just do this voice right here. It's like, someone messes with an innocent person in my life.

Who really isn't in my life? It's tangentially in my life. So maybe it's my neighbor, like it wasn't the beekeeper. Or maybe it's like the daughter of my best friend. And the kid isn't a working man. But now that they mess him, I've got to destroy their whole criminal organization. Just me, just the man.

I love it. Did you guys see beekeeper by the way? No. Oh, he was in occupation. Beekeeper was hilarious hilarious including a line like Most people don't know honey is one of the most flammable liquids ever and he lights it on fire the guy goes that so

Yeah, that's what he said really. I don't know if it's real Can you light honey on fire apparently it's very flammable according to be No way. I don't. Can you light honey on fire? Apparently it's very flammable according to Beekeeper. I gotta watch Beekeeper. I would imagine they just would've make something up like that.

Although films do tend to do that. I mean it's a movie. It's Hollywood, baby. Hollywood. I remember the whole plot to the film Triple X was the submarine in landlocked Czech Republic. Oh yeah, yeah. Czech submarine.

In their defense, the submarine could fly. Oh. Flying submarine. It's a super marine at that point, right? What submarine is that? And if it was just a boat it be a marine get it. Yeah, everything in movies is real It's just not revealed yet. So yeah, like the Ark of the Covenant coming exactly don't look now And it's no no no no no we're back baby, where's my laptop? No, no, no kill that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Cinderella story in sports. UFL kicking off. Almost. Rough next, Battle Hawks. Not a Cinderella story. Yeah, not to the Battle Hawks.

The biggest Cinderella story in sports is the Sudanese national team in soccer, right? So if you don't know, I'm from Sudan and our country has been at war. Just like Akbar. Yeah, just like Akbar, domestic, yeah. Has been at war for a good two years now where there's no infrastructure, there's no safety,

people, it's the largest number of displaced people in the world right now, the biggest refugee crisis in all the world. And so the Sudanese national team, as a result, has not been living in Sudan, has not been playing home games in Sudan, they've had to live in Libya and play their home games there.

And everyone who listens to the show knows I'm a huge Brazil fan because growing up in Sudan, you're like, well, Sudan is never going to be good. So we all adopted Brazil as our, that's our country. And it's been an unrewarding experience to watch Brazil be awesome and excellent. But this is different because now the Sudanese national team that doesn't live at home, that doesn't play its home games at home has been on this miraculous Cinderella run over the last year and a half where they've qualified the African Nations Cup and they're currently number one in their World Cup qualifier group and so they

had a big game last week against Senegal and Senegal is a team that has a lot of big-name guys. Sadio Mane Mane, to give you an example. They got a bunch of guys that play in the EPL and they play at the top levels of European football. Traditional Afghan power. Power, right? You talk about the biggest teams in Africa, like the perennial, the Dukes, the North Carolinas

of African soccer. It's Nigeria, it's Senegal, it's Ghana, right? Those are the three. And then everyone else kind of get in where you fit in. Algeria, I guess you could put them in there as well. And so for Sudan to go and play against Senegal and not only come out with a draw, but like kinda should've won the game.

Kinda should've won the game. It was something that was magical, and I was wondering Mike, because you are a soccer guy Is this a story that's resonating with soccer people? I know master test fashion went on galasso and he did a segment on it But for the soccer heads overall, is this a story that's resonating or is this still kind of If you look across a globe too, there's plenty of those stories, especially in the middle east There's a lot of countries that would make for incredible storylines if they were to make it to To a world cup, especially here in North America.

Geopolitically there's a lot that put the host committee in a precarious situation, although the World Cup usually transcends that stuff, but given the current climate, it'd be hard to ignore. I do think that it's resonating. You still have to seek it out. Afghan qualifying region does not get a lot of attention over here just because it's not readily available. You have to really seek this out.

But as we march closer, I really do think that come summertime with the formal ramp up of the Club World Cup that also kicks off down here in Miami, I believe within our Miami, you're gonna start seeing these media entities start putting together narratives as the picture becomes a little clearer. It's also a little bit difficult here in this country

because I don't think, like, it's been damn near 30 years since the United States hasn't had to go through a qualification process. So things that happened last week with the United States losing. It doesn't matter to the people. It doesn't really resonate because all they know is World Cup.

We're not really having our position jeopardized anyway because they've already qualified as a host nation. I want to put this out there. If Sudan makes a World Cup, and obviously World Cup's gonna be here, Canada, or Mexico in a year, real, wow, it's coming right up. If Sudan makes a World Cup, I've already announced that I am going to be the host for all of this.

I'm gonna take the team out to dinner, we're gonna go to Fogo da Chau because we want that Brazilian energy in us, right? And I'm going to be doing the media rounds. I'll do ESPN, I'll do Fox, I'll do everything. I'm going to make this a thing. It should be. And, cause I wanna be, I want this to be visible

because I think people need to understand, you know, it's insane to not know if your family members are alive or healthy and have to go out there and compete. And again, I'm trying to think of what the American equivalent is. It would be like McNeese State playing against the bulls. Only if they were coming from a war-torn part

of the country. Well, I'm just saying the war-torn part of the country. Right. To the... Well, I'm just saying, the war-torn stuff apart, It could do so much good. It's the war-torn stuff apart, it's also the talent gap. We don't have anybody that's close to what these teams are bringing to the table. Yeah, and just, even if it's for a brief moment,

you have, on that continent, continent DDA Drogba famously helped end a civil war and introduce a peace time just for the Ivory Coast, which is also probably in that group of Afghan bluebloods. But the attention that it would bring to a cause, which as you know, is so underrepresented in the news cycle, especially here in the United States, because we're just so infatuated with our own problems over here. To have that kind of attention can do some real legitimate good,

even just from a fundraising perspective. Even if it just impacts the lives of the players and the families of those players, everybody should be rooting for this. Everybody should be rooting for what's happened. Absolutely. Now, should everybody be rooting for the UFL? They should.

Spring ball matters. We have a testament to non NFL. Spring ball? No, you played in the CFL, but it was a development. It's been around longer than the NFL. Did you see the Trey Lance story? No. Trey Lance may be going north of the border to help keep his career. To go build a career. Are you one of the greatest underdog stories in the history of the Cleveland Browns organization? I'm the secret sauce. Are you actually gonna come out against the UFL?

No, I love the UFL. The UFL's great. I just take issue with you pointing to me about a league I did not play in. Well, as someone that cut his teeth in a league that wasn't the NFL and then rode that league to the Superstar that you did, multiple contracts in the NFL, world's quickest man,

you would know that what's going down tonight in Houston between the Roughnecks and the Battle Hawks is of importance. Is there- Is there- That's the intro I was trying to get to. That's what he's looking for, yeah. Thank you.

Is there an Andrew Hawkins of the UFL? There's plenty of good stories in the UFL. Like right now, John Pearson- That's made it. That's made it. Like, that's the Hawks story. The Hawks story is he started there and then he made it. Not a guy who could make it, a guy who did make it. Turpin. Turpin's probably the best. He was at UFL? Who's had that tight end for the chargers? Oh my god, backup tight end. Anthony Gates. No. I'll get it. I'll find the name. But there were good stories and then never forget what COVID took away from us. Which is?

The Roughnecks Battle Hawks, I mean, collision course for the championship. Jordan Tiamo and PJ Walker, who were lighting the world on fire. PJ Walker, another guy, had a couple of comments. PJ Walker was a great story and he was legitimately good in that league. We got Anthony Brown starting at quarterback for the Roughnecks. We got Max Dugan. We got Anthony Brown starting at quarterback for the Roughnecks, we got Max Dugan, we got a loaded offense for the Battle Hawks, we got Hakeem Butler who is a huge producer,

wide receiver for them. MacKaren's still there? We got MacKaren on the outs of the league. How come? I'm like 90% sure this game goes down because there's all sorts of talk that there might be work stoppage. Wait a second, wait a second.

Is this a Brian Scalabrini situation? You know how Brian Scalabrini played in the Big Three? Do y'all know that? Yes. Like very briefly. And then he went to broadcasting after that because he was like, oh, I'm too old for this. But like the idea of like, I'm a broadcaster,

but then I come back and I work out and then I play? Is that what's happening with you again? McCarran has been very vocal. I wasn't a huge fan of the merger because it kind of sided with the USFL way of doing things, which meant they had to use that union. They took some of the rules. Thankfully, the XFL kickoff that the NFL adopted

is back in what was formerly known as the XFL. But the UFL, I don't know, it's just not doing it. It's not as extreme, I guess. I miss the XFL. I don't like the UFL as much, but I give it time and hopefully with the second year, but there's all sorts of Reports being done right now the players still exhausting every option because they're not happy with the the compensation that they're getting I mean, I do think today's game is gonna go down But AJ McCarran has been one of those outspoken voices especially for the quarterbacks

The quarterbacks came out in unison and said that their pay wasn't right but McCarron's not playing for the battle hawks anymore now yeah and also i think you're confusing greg mackleroy with aj mccarron who are both former alabama quarterbacks one is an analyst for which one had the hot girlfriend that uh mucsburger aj mccarron mccarron although to be fair i don't know what mackleroy's work but the famous one where who was it? Was it Brad Nessler? That's our no Musburger That's the one you're thinking of it's McCarran, okay, okay, we got football under the Friday night lights I love it. I love my question, and this is very I don't even want to qualify

But okay, so the players that are fighting for the money and all the things it feels a little premature What is like the I don't know what the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the players that are fighting for The money and all the things it feels a little premature What is like the I don't know what the ufl makes? I don't know what those TV contracts look like I don't know what the CBS. I'm coming in this unchecked. Mm-hmm. That's how we like it That's how we like it here, right? But I will say that when I'm looking at the ufl to your point about CFL my opportunity are being similar is I'm looking At it as an opportunity to build a profile and tape to try to make it to the NFL. Yes.

Versus creating a career out of the UFL. Now there will be players that do so. And that's great. Not by choice, so. And I kind of feel like it's cutting your nose off to spite your face a little bit for a work stoppage in a scenario where you guys are trying to put enough film out there

to make it to the big show, which is kind of the whole premise around quote-unquote spring football in the first place. So that's not, like, it's not disrespectful to the UFL to say you're a feeder league to the NFL because that's how it's built versus the CFL truly views himself as a self-contained professional league in their country that has been around longer than the National Football League. Did you mention that the CFL is older than the NFL? I did. Is that true? It is true. What? Absolutely true. Yes, it is the OG. You mean older than the merger? No. Older than the actual league? Older than the actual league. And

then also like you got to realize like in the 70s. 1956 is what I'm looking at. The salaries are comparable. Not older than the NFL then Well, then it is the merger. You know NFL is it's older than the NFL No, NFL was founded in 1920 the CFL was founded in 1958. I don't think that's right. Okay I think we need CFL merch We send some CFL merch to Hawk so he could wear it on the show At least we admit it on the front end. We are not informed on this at all that again unchecked That's how we like it around here. Everything's unchecked

When you guys have a cleaning person coming to your house Do you clean your house first? Yeah, cleaning person. It's crazy, bro. It's crazy. That's around here We had the cleaning lady the other the other day or a couple of days ago and the night before I got a baby I had three month old kid Very hectic in my life. Yeah, baby screaming crying. We had to give her bath. We got to put her down We got to do this. We got to do that by the time I get home My wife's like hey the cleaning lady comes tomorrow. We got to clean up and I'm like She's we're paying her to clean up and she's like no no, but we got to clean up before she cleans up

Yeah, so we don't look like slobs and we don't look like you know dirty people and I'm like I get that I'll put away a couple things that we've got out But like I'm not gonna physically get on my hands and knees and scrub something that she is gonna scrub tomorrow now Here's the deal. There's part of it. That is to save face right absolutely I feel like this is this is a universal is, this isn't a two Americas thing, right? This is universal. Three Americas. Three Americas, four.

Four, two. Four Americas. Just gotta close the loop. Donald Partum. Oh, there you go, thank you. Partum the interruption. The dishes have to be done. Yeah, like look, this is, some of it is the safe face,

right, some of it is you don't want like, these people are like, oh, please is the safe face, right? Some of it is you don't want like, these people are like, oh, these people are animals, right? But there's another part of this. There's actually two other elements to why you clean up before the cleaning people show up. Number one is, you clean up the things that I don't want you messing with. Right. Right.

Like I'm going to put this stuff away because I don't trust. Because you don't know where it goes, I know where it goes. Exactly, and one of the things I hate about the cleaning people is when they like I open like a drawer like where the hell is the thing and like oh they put it in this cabin over here like we never put the bottle opener there why would it be there right number two and this one is huge because if it's too much of a hard work they might have acid so I'm going to get rid of the original kind of surface like 25% so they only have to do 75% instead of a hundred.

Not only do they only have to do 75% they have to do the hard 75%. I'm gonna get rid of the aesthetic like superficial part of the dirt like all right now you got to scrub that part that won't come out. So instead of them half-assing you're half-assing. Absolutely absolutely that's why you clean before the cleaning people show up. So instead of them half-assing, you're half-assing. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's why you clean before the cleaning people show up. It's just like, I don't get it because I had to clean my house at 11 o'clock. And it's like, who put all these shoes here?

Why are all the shoes? There's 11 pairs of shoes in the house. Why are they here? I kind of feel like this is... I'm running up the stairs with nine shoes, trying not to wake the baby up. One shoe falls off. My wife's like, why'd you?

I'm like... Tony, I'm not trying to sow seeds of discontent in your household But I kind of feel like when it's you her and the baby. It's pretty obvious whose shoes are who yes of course I got a problem in my house because I got kids Multiple and two of them are twins and so who sure I got twins too my twins are 11 Mine are 10 for real come on put it there twin life Did you did you really did you find that once you had twins you started meeting people at twins? Yeah, that's all you see That's all you see is twins. You should go to the twins Berg

Twin festival in Ohio. Oh, yeah all the twins in the summertime converge in twins Berg, Ohio To have a twist a festival all twins by the way twins file. There it is Also a festival all twins. By the way, twins? File, there it is. I have a brother. Also, the Grey Cup is older than the Super Bowl. It's 1909, it was when the Grey Cup was. So it's a Grey Cup thing, not a CFL thing. The CFL was older than the NFL and the merger. I wouldn't find that. All right, so courtesy of ChatGPT,

which has been wrong about Hawkins-driven topics before. It's a little racist, but go ahead, I'll allow it. NFL was founded in 1920. CFL was formed in 1958 through a merger of various Canadian football organizations. However, Canadian football itself has its roots going back to the 1860s, which predates American football.

But the official CFL organization came much later than when the NFL started. So Canadian football is older than reconstruction. Well, what about college football? But that's how the NFL is too though. Like all those leagues, that's what they consider the NFL, but also the CF, like the roots of the NFL are from 1920 something.

Tell you what, is there a really old franchise inside the CFL that is older than the CFL itself? Because that's a good way to do it. Yeah, what's the oldest CFL franchise? I don't know that. What do you get on that? I will find out. Even though this is contrary to what we want to do.

We want to do unchecked, bro. I'm asking you to check. Do you remember when Baltimore was in the CFL? Oh, that was a time. Stallions, right? They brought back the Colts, I believe. Baltimore Stallions? Was it? Yeah, yeah, it was a horse stallions, right? They brought back the Colts, I believe about some more stallions wasn't yeah Yeah, it was a horse of some sort. Yeah, so the Great Cup originally was a hockey trophy

And then the league that handed out the trophy then got another trophy So they gave it to the Canadian Dominion football champion. So they just were like well, we have this extra trophy You guys can have a hand me down. It's efficient We got another point in your favor right now the Toronto Argonauts are the oldest franchise in the CFL and the oldest professional Football team in North America. They were founded in 1873 come on. What are we talking about here? Well the CFL as a league was officially formed in 1958 several teams like the Argonauts predate the league by decades You think I would just pedal that stat you don't think I've heard that a million times?

Well, you said the CFL is older than you. I know, but it is. Yeah, see, that's why we checked. It is. The NFL, the merger didn't happen till the 60s. Right. We're really bending over backwards to make you right. Thank you.

We're trying. The field goal post in the front of the end zone, that's a Canadian thing. That's where they got it from. Oh, for real? Yeah. That's the reason why they changed it. Yeah, because it's Canadian.

It's safe. Because they're not fun. Cause they're so... We still like big hits. We got an extra defender out there. If you could take one rule from modern day CFL and apply it to the NFL, is it running starts? One point.

Rouge. One, I don't know, I don't think it's running starts. I think it's no fair catches. Oh. No fair catches, no touchbacks. You hated returning puns. C-T-E-City. I did, but we had a five yard halo. So no fair catches, no touchbacks. You hated returning puns. CTE, city. I did, but we had a five yard halo.

So no fair catches, no touchbacks. But you're like strict with the halo. But if you're inside of five yards when I catch the ball, it's a penalty. And also if I take a knee in the end zone, the defense gets one point. What about a slightly wider field than the NFL? That's fun.

You want big scores and touchdowns? Wait. Make the field wide. Is that why the field is wider? Is it the metric system? It's in meters, isn't it? Yeah, but it's not equal. It's still like, yeah, the field is 110 yards long, which would be 100 meters to the NFL's 100 yards.

The end zones are 20 yards long, each end zone. So you could be on the 10 yard line, throw a 25 yarder for a toe. Side line to side for a toad. Side line to side line is also wider. So hold on so when they call it when they're like okay it's third down and 35 meters like this. No they don't do that because there's only three downs in the CFL. Third down at 35 meters you better pun it. You gotta pun it. You go to and out. Dude only three down. Okay hold on now. The offense has a big advantage in the CFL. You wanna make NFL football more fun.

Less downs. Less downs, baby. Less downs, why are we doing four downs? Let's go three downs. Hey, you're preaching my language right now, brother. There is no football that was more fun to me than playing in the CFL. Why isn't CFL football more popular?

Do they play at the same time as the NFL? Is the season? It starts earlier. It starts earlier, but yeah. It gets a lot colder earlier. Yeah. Championship is Thanksgiving weekend. We have an update on the Baltimore Stallions. Yes?

Former Great Cup champion, Baltimore Stallions. Wow. We took the Great Cup down. Went down there and took, this is like with the Raptors. Yeah, they folded too. They won the Great Cup and that was it. That's really unfortunate. Leave on top like George Costanza, right?

I'm outta here. Did they relocate or they just totally shutter? We'll keep working on it. I'm fascinated though by this idea of could the CFL be a TV product that would be successful in the US if their season just didn't coincide with the thing that takes everyone's attention? The answer is no. Because each roster has to have at least 19 Canadians okay right so there's like also like certain positions that are more Canadian than others we'll call it like what like offensive lineman there are a lot of safety you have a lot of Canadians he's talking about secret

sauce the secret sauce nationalism possession slot receivers may come as a shock they have black you know no no I know I'm saying but but their secret The secret sauce Nationalism Possession slot receivers They come as a shock They have black guys out there No, no, I know I'm saying but but their secret sauce But like their secret sauce is in those at linebacker Linebacker must be a great Canadian You're not gonna see a lot of white corners in the CFL You're not gonna see a lot of outside receivers

So the further away from the ball the less Canadian There's just like hey we can find that here They don't come to America to get things they can find to feed the ratio Big six six three hundred and thirty pound guy. We got that right here in Nova Scotia. That's nothing to us We're number two Saskatoon. We got ourselves a linebacker straight out of Calgary. Not a big deal, you know So there's that so that would make it tough because also and this goes to the UFL as well What the NFL does great is they do great character development, right?

There's a cycle, like we see the high school kids. This kid's a five star. Jeremiah Smith, where's he gonna go? Miami, Ohio State. Goes to Ohio State, you've watched him. As they get to the NFL, you're now seeing pass or fail. And then they do well. And the Lamar Jackson story arc is nuts.

It's hard for the UFL, because I don't know these these guys and there's no way to get me as caught up, but you're giving me the same broadcast. CFL is the same way. Weather is starting to warm up. Regular season starting to wind down. Games of consequence in sports starting to ramp up. I know what you're going to need by your side. It's by my side already. Miller Lite. Yeah that's right. I'm making my springtime a Miller time. I'm making my sports time Miller time.

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