The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Dumbest Play in NFL History | Hour 1

Episode Date: October 12, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There is nothing casual about football season. You can tell yourself, you're just going to watch one game, and six hours later, you're emotionally invested in a fourth quarter between two teams you don't even care about. That's what I love about this time of year. The entire weekend becomes football. Your texting friends, tracking games, second-guess and coaches, convincing yourself you saw something before everybody else did. And then Monday comes around and you get to do the whole thing again.
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Starting point is 00:01:32 about the NFL, why are you talking about the Marlins broadcasters? And it's why ESPN tried to get me out of the local hour the entire time I was doing it. It's my favorite hour. It continues to be my favorite hour. That's the explanation. I know you want your football, so I'm going to start with baseball. And Jose Ramirez, I don't know. Like I was thinking to myself, Dan Lannning, Archmanning, or White Sox fanning.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And then what happens is you get this guy doing this thing on this pitch. It's a good To be a gandrino That's a quarter-unate the post-temporada The second in this that they said
Starting point is 00:02:30 That got that That's where Another career more Two to zero Take a venta The team of Cleveland It's a good call I wanted what I said
Starting point is 00:02:41 They didn't even mention That the ball was less than a foot off the ground Like I have no idea The physics of that elude me in a game where the White Sox struck out 21 times. The physics of him hitting a home run on that pitch make no sense to me. I don't.
Starting point is 00:02:54 It's only because he's better than most of the hitters in baseball. We also had Jose Ramirez excited in the clubhouse after. What kind of pitch did you hit for a home run? Come on a homero pitch. It was a home run pitch that was 10 inches off the ground. 10 inches off the ground. It's the lowest pitch hit for a home run in pitch tracking era. and they win two nothing to go to the ALCS.
Starting point is 00:03:19 It was amazing. So the football yesterday, Zaz, I did not believe, was very good, but they gave me some historic, and they gave us some historic stupidity. I don't even like calling. Let's start with the first game of the day, because I've got, the Jags are so frustrating. They are so sloppy, like 10 penalties in the first half.
Starting point is 00:03:39 You see Trevor Lawrence spiking the ball angrily at the goal line. They're angry because they live in Jacksonville. They're angry because their home games are in the first. London. They're angry because their home games in London have more Philadelphia fans than they do. And then at first and goal at the one, two delay of game penalties till Trevor Lawrence just spikes the ball in the ground, just furious with his center. And they won the game ridiculously at the end. We're going to get to the game yesterday that was the dumbest. But these were two coaches starting your Sunday with the dumb off. Siriani has taken the blame for this. And with seven
Starting point is 00:04:13 seconds left in that game. He ends up, let's hear from Siriani here so that we can hear him just saying, yeah, that's my fault. I lost to somebody who was behaving dumber than me. You know, our guys fought their butts off today. Defense
Starting point is 00:04:30 had an outstanding game, keeping us in that game. Offense did enough at the end to go win us that game. Special teams did a nice job kicking there. You know, I didn't make the right decision, and I lost us that game. And that's what I said to our guys.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And what hurts there is that, you know, the guys fought so hard. And then I don't make the decision that, you know, that I should make it that in the game. And I cost us that game. And I put that fully on me. Zaslow, the beginning of that game, okay? Kick off, kick return for a touchdown. Hasn't happened in the league. Doesn't happen in the league.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Kickoff return for a touchdown. There's a penalty on it. two guys get ejected. The rest of the game is spent with a long snapper. I've got a theory on this. The reason all of those snaps were high is because that guy only knows how to do punts. That guy doesn't know how to do extra points and field goals. And so he was just snapping everything through his legs as if it was the punter snaps were perfect. All I want to get the Jacksonville holder on this week to see if anyone's ever had a day like that trying to hold kicks. And then at the end, Jacksonville ends up winning the game
Starting point is 00:05:43 because they've got this guy with the biggest leg in the sport. It's a little too much look at me from Cam Little. Everyone knows he made the winning kick. Walk off. He's running by himself. You hate kickers. Come on. Played soccer his whole life.
Starting point is 00:05:57 He said this was like a playing in that stadium. It was like a dream come true for him. Whatever. You have any dreams us? Yeah, I have dreams. Okay, when you accomplish him, do you feel happy or not? I told you I have lots of dreams. He didn't play football until he was like 17.
Starting point is 00:06:09 and he played soccer his whole life. Good for him. Cool moment. It is a cool moment, but you're running by yourself. He did Ronaldo's celebration. He did not do Ronaldo celebration. He didn't do that. No, no, that's not it.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Good job. You jump up, you land like this. Did you see him jump up? Did you see him jump up and twist? Did you see him jump up and twist? You want us to watch you be wrong? You don't think that's what he's going for there? Malika Willis over here.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Let's roll this again. You guys are wrong. It was a pretty cool moment. Like, you guys can make fun of it because it's the kicker and he's not playing football the way everyone else is playing football. But that game was lost. The broadcasters were spending nothing but the time talking about what a winner Jalen Hertz is, how poised Jalen Hertz is, how great he is, even though he throws for 90 yards every game,
Starting point is 00:06:53 how depleted the Eagles were, because those are not the Eagles. They're just wearing eagle uniforms. Like those are the remnants of the Eagles where they're saying they're putting the shortest offensive linemen on the field that's played in the sport in 30 years. Did you guys know? Were you guys aware before yesterday's game? I was not. That 5-11 is an impossible height to play offensive line now. Like it's just that there hasn't been a player in the league at the position in 30 years that's 5-11. Did you guys know that? I think their average height went up, though, with Markell Bell starting. How does he look bigger in the pros? The bigness of these people, Mike, before I get to more from that early game, because I did find it interesting for a lot of different reasons.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Can you guys get me a photo of Alonzo Spellman here? Because I heard Sean King tell a story. Now, Alonzo Spellman at the time was like 265 or 270 pounds. So he was a physique in the sport that was standard setting. And he was feared by all, okay? But I'm just watching yesterday's commanders game. And I'm looking at the field. And that Javon Kinlaw is bigger than everyone else.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And he's just 6'5, 315 pounds. And he's literally someone I've never seen in real life. outside of a football locker room. Like someone that size who's just bigger than everyone else and he's just another guy in that league. Sean King tells the story of Alonzo Spelman sacking him.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Sean King, the former Bucks quarterback and not a small man. Alonzo Spelman sacks him and says to him, I'm going to kill you. And Sean King says he had the very real thought. I believed him. You got to go home after that.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Well, no, what he said, instead, you say he's got to go home, but what he said is not only believing him, but under Alonzo Spelman, while feeling, fearing someone who he is afraid of already, he says to Alonzo Spelman, I'm somebody's child. Not I'm somebody's father. I'm somebody's child, is what he whimpers, to Alonzo Spelman, who's 50 pounds smaller than the people who are playing today. So yesterday in this game with Jacksonville and Philadelphia, this is the broken,
Starting point is 00:09:12 tattered remains of whatever your championship Eagles were. Jason Kelsey is openly making sounds every time the Eagles do something wrong. A penalty, a fumble, and no one cares. And I don't care, but I'm surprised no one cares because maybe they don't care about Jacksonville enough to care because usually broadcasters being biased is something that really really bothers fan bases. But the Jaguars go from, we return the opening kickoff for a touchdown,
Starting point is 00:09:44 never mind second and 40. That's what's been watching the Jaguars for me for five years. The whole thing, where they throw for 300 yards, but Brian Thomas has zero catches for zero yards because Parker Washington's amazing. Dan, I mean, chop wood, carry water. That's what Parker Washington is.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Y receiver 1. They've moved BTJ and be like, all right, you're behind Josh Coleman. See you later. That is correct, but I'm still surprised that I'm watching a game yesterday where it's the tattered remains of Philadelphia and a really good Jacksonville team that's unbearably sloppy. Just unbearably sloppy. The long snapper situation where they've got a backup long snapper in there and they have to make all of these decisions going forward on Fort Down because they fear something terrible happening on the snaps so much that this is the first time I've ever watched a photo. football game and the timeout that was called at the end was absolutely meant to freeze the snapper.
Starting point is 00:10:42 The timeout was, they didn't want, they did, little's got no problem or confidence problems. Like, you want, you want me to, yeah, whenever you want, call all the timeouts. I'll sit here in the middle of this and, yes, I've got the biggest leg in the sport. I absolutely believe that yesterday they were trying to freeze the snapper. So Dan, you had the long snapper who's used to snapping 10 yards of a punt, but you snap at the five yards and it's like, oh. That's a great theory that all those snaps were high because he only knows how to, like, he's not the real long snapper. He only knows how to do.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I can snap it to the punter, no problem. But I'm going to make every time my holder get up and try to catch the ball. What if we put the Jags long snapper on the Eagles? And what if that long snapper was Gino Smith? He's a Viking. Were you guys aware during that Jets and Brown's game when they said this was a funny stat they said? DeShon Watson looking to have. have his fourth straight game-winning drive at the end of a game.
Starting point is 00:11:39 That hasn't happened since. Tebow! And the ball sailed out of bounds when he threw that pass, by the way. That stunned me, though, when I heard that stat, like, wait a minute. Nobody in the sport has had four straight weeks. My Holmes hasn't done, nobody's done it? No, not since Tebow. Since the miracle of Tebow.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Tebow's so good. The end of that, it made me think there were three plays yesterday. wanted to ask you guys about this before we get to the dumbest decisions in the dumb off and the history of football. I want to talk about the commander. I know. We're going to get to that in a second. But I just want to ask you, I thought there were a number of people who could have felt terrible just playing football yesterday. The punter for the Browns, Corey Borequist, like the ball just goes through his hands and he fouls up a game that they should have won. Scataboo, I mean, got bailed out on feeling just really terrible.
Starting point is 00:12:35 After doing a whole lot of dancing, preening, and everything else, he fumbles in a spot that seems unfathomable, only to be beaten by intergalactic stupidity at the end of the Washington game. But I thought that a, did you guys see this play? The guy, the single guy who felt worse yesterday in all of football, I believe is Colby Wooden of the New Orleans Saints. He's 275 pounds. and the Vikings full of themselves on offense, having Justin Jefferson back.
Starting point is 00:13:07 They run a double pass where they hand the ball to Jefferson and he runs and he throws the ball back to Kyler Murray. And Colby Woodson, excuse me, Kobe Wooden is standing there and the ball hits him in the face mask and he will never have that opportunity for the rest of his life. The ball was literally thrown right to him. by Justin Jefferson to a Saints defensive tackle who would have run 50 yards easily with the entire game. It will never happen to him again, not even in his dreams, that perfectly ever again in his life where he's just standing in front of Kyler Murray with 50 yards to the end zone
Starting point is 00:13:46 and it hit him in the face. Jefferson threw the ball. He started throwing it while he was still spinning. Like he didn't even look where he was throwing. We're going to fool them so bad on this play. Throw it to my five foot six quarterback. AI isn't something that's coming five or ten years from now. Businesses are already using it every day
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Starting point is 00:15:57 You've got the TV exactly where you want it. You've got the couch. You're ready for seven straight hours of football. And then the sun moves three inches. And suddenly you're watching the game like this like, oh, I'm leaning. I'm squinting. I'm trying to figure. Is that a touchdown? And instead of fixing the actual problems, we'll just live with that. Yeah, around 4.15. You just can't see the TV. No problem. Yes, problem. That's insane. Your windows matter. The right window treatment can change the way a whole room looks, feels. And most importantly, whether you can actually see what you're watching. Blinds.com makes it easy. Go DIY or have a vetted pro handle everything from measuring to installations. You can talk with an award-winning design expert for free, virtually with no awkward in-home visit. They'll even send up to 10 samples fast and free and everything is backed by their sure-fit guarantee. Visit blinds.com right now for an exclusive $50 off when you spend $500 or more with Code Dan. That's blinds.com with code Dan. Dan Lebatar.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now, your life depends on it, go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture. Jonathan Sassel. I would die. I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Levitation. Let's get to the game you want to talk about. Okay, because I still don't have an explanation for some of the things that happened here.
Starting point is 00:17:24 So let's see if Chris Myers has an explanation that makes sense when he's calling some of this lie. Daniels, yeah, he's not passing the ball. Okay, yeah. Now, they don't have a time out. What are they doing? Oh, my goodness. They're going to spike it. They're not going to be able to get this set of time.
Starting point is 00:17:41 It's going to run out of him. The clock ran out as Daniels ran the ball. And Scadaboo says, I'll take the tie and get out of town. Dan, if you're a commander's fan watching it home, it's automatic kick a hole in the television. It's the only response. I'm going to go several steps further than that and say that Jaden Daniels may, over time erase this with winning and running for 100
Starting point is 00:18:08 yards and being great at quarterback whether he has functioning elbows or not. But this kind of game bandit management at the end of a game will make it so that people will distrust him in that market at the end of games for a very long time
Starting point is 00:18:24 because it is super rare that everybody in the world watching the game has a better idea of what's happening than the quarterback of the team does in the middle of that. So let me set up for you everything that's happening here because the first thing is that James Winston led back a comeback to a tie game that I did not think should have happened because I thought Washington controlled the entirety of that
Starting point is 00:18:51 game and all of a sudden it's 20 targets to neighbors and 11 catches and Isaiah likely's really good too. And they've got some skill position stuff in New York that would have made the Giants four and one starting Harbaugh's career, if not for some of the stuff that happened here. They've got the ball at the 25-yard line and overtime. A few minutes left in the game, Scataboo Fumbles. They were in field goal range. It would have been an easy field goal. Washington, because Jaden Daniels is out there playing with whatever's left of his elbows,
Starting point is 00:19:22 and he's running all over the place. He looks for the first time the way that he did at the beginning of last season, where it's both threats running and throwing, oh, my God, this is an unstoppable thing. And then with 40 seconds left and they don't have timeouts, they just start circling around in a way that suggested they were moving too slow, that they weren't aware of the situation, that Dan Quinn wasn't communicating with his quarterback. What are they doing? They're not going to just spike it here. Why is he snapping in and running around in the backfield? Why has he been tackled in bounds?
Starting point is 00:19:57 How does he have no earthly idea what the game situation is? no time, no timeouts, how does he not know anything that's happening in the last 40 seconds of a football game that he just played like that? And then the explanations afterward made it worse, where you're watching this and you're like, these explanations don't make any sense. So first, let's go to Mike Tomlin here so you can hear what is the appropriate reaction from everybody who cares about football on a Sunday. I'm curious what you were thinking is you're watching the way that this game ended.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I describe it as disgusting. You know, like, the fission wins are too precious in the National Football League. I was disgusted by the Scataboo fumble. I threw up in my mouth. So he's got the throw up in his mouth and then it gets worse. He could just say, I found that disgusting. He's like, I've described it as disgusting. Like, why are you, like, saying how you've described something?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Good use of the National Football League there, too. I love him for that. I threw up in my mouth. That was on Scatterboo. I can't imagine what the feeling was after that because I defy all. of you as we talk about this. Go ahead. History of sport. Outside of J.R. Smith for getting the score in a finals game, give me something that feels like this. Not just football, not just football, the most disciplined of everything in sports, ever. History of sports. Give me all the things that
Starting point is 00:21:24 feel or look like what yesterday was. Chris Weber, even though it's an easier mistake to make the mistakes. Chris Weber calling a timeout he didn't have is a panic situation of not knowing how many timeouts he had. But it wasn't, Mike, there were many people watching who also didn't know he didn't have timeouts. Like this, everyone who was watching knew the game situation and everyone was escalating to what is he doing? What are they doing? Here's the part that was also so confusing. Like for a moment there, because the play started with 45 seconds and ticking. So it's not like they were rushing to the line of scrimmage.
Starting point is 00:22:08 It wasn't a fire drill, okay? They had time to figure out what. It's just as simple. Is it not? It's just go, let the clock run down and spike it for seven seconds left. Well, that's the part that's confusing to me. It's not even run the clock down. It's not like you want to leave them little time.
Starting point is 00:22:22 No, no, no. You're an overtime. If you make the field goal, the game's over. It's over. You don't need to train the clock. Kick a vehicle! What are they doing? Blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:22:34 So afterward. Afterward, we're going to give you a montage here of people talking about it, but I'm going to circle back around because I thought somehow James Daniels did worse in the post-game press conference than he did in the last 40 seconds. Dan, I'm watching Red Zone, okay? I've watched the whole finish live, which again, watching that sequence live is so much better than someone telling you have to see how this game ended. Babel, babble.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And then the post-game press conference or Jaden Daniels comes on, but my phone rang. And this was so important. I had to pause it. I paused. I have to see every second of this before after I answer this phone call. It's funny what Zaz is describing because I was one kind of disappointed when all of this happened to ruin that game with 40 seconds left. And then I was another kind of disappointed when he was. interviewed in the press conference and his explanations were wildly insufficient to me.
Starting point is 00:23:29 But let's just have a montage here of Dan Quinn and an assortment of others just explaining, oh my God, this is the dumbest thing any of us have ever done. The sequencing of that does not fall on him. It's an outside throw or a clock. You know, those are the two out-of-balance throw or a clock. And that has to come from me. I don't even have to put him into that spot. I can do that earlier.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And we can finish, you know, the kick early. We don't need to gain more yards. so that's on me. Did you guys know there was a timeout? You didn't have any timeouts left? Was that talked about in the huddle after the white run? That was talked about in the middle. What was the goal on that play when you set?
Starting point is 00:24:04 We got to stop the clock. We got to know it's a ozone situation. We got to relay that as an offense. It starts from everybody top down. But ultimately, you know, it's on me. There's no we. There's no we need to know to stop the clock. You, you need.
Starting point is 00:24:20 There were 45 seconds in counting. Is he just there? And there's no thoughts? between his ears? You say you, but Dan Quinn is saying, no, I've got to relay that in the situation. He's covered for his player. But I do believe they both need to know that.
Starting point is 00:24:36 It has to be communicated even if it's the most obvious thing. But I want to play because that clip right there does Jaden Daniels some favors. What I'm about to play for you is the awkward back and forth of the rarity of I almost
Starting point is 00:24:52 never, and I imagine you almost never need an explanation for what it is you just saw in sports from the people at the center of it who have the only explanation because something is inexplicable. Again, I'm going to say this sport, they're really precious about the discipline. What they do on every play, in some ways to me, is unfathomable, getting the play call, which is really long and complicated, into your quarterback's head while the other team tries to steal it. Like, every, play in football to me is meticulously scripted and memorized and muscle-memoried in such a way that when teams get to the two-minute drill, I'm stunned at how well so many of them do it because
Starting point is 00:25:37 of what it is they're drilling all week. If you want to watch the commanders mess up a game at the end, why don't you download the game time out? Get your friends together. Say, hey, Dan Quinn's got the ball in a late game situation. We should be there. Get your friends some tickets and tell them it's game time. Download the GameTime app. Create an account and use code Dan for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Again, create an account and use code D-A-N for $20 off.
Starting point is 00:26:02 That D-A-N is for Dan Quinn, not Levitard. What are they doing? How often do you guys need an explanation for what it is that you just saw from the participants? I got it from Chris Myers. Sobble, babble. What are they doing? How often do you guys stop what you're doing in the 4 o'clock hour, because you want to know what the explanation was.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Not often. So the reason that I was disappointed by Jaden Daniels is, so now imagine all of this that I'm presenting to you. You come to your television, genuinely curious, seeking information. I had to see it. Not because I want Jaden Daniels. It's not even because I want Jaden Daniels to slap his forehead. I'm such an idiot.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I just want to understand what the people in the huddle were thinking, how can something that's this meticulous all week make Mike Tomlin throw up more in his mouth because it has no explanation and then they go to Jaden Daniels and the explanation's not an explanation. What happened there in that last play? We all got to be better situationally. Football starts with me. Everybody will say the same thing, but we just got to be better in situational football. What were you trying to throw the ball away and just took it up? What was the goal on that play when you snapped?
Starting point is 00:27:20 We got to stop the clock. We got to know the ozone situation. We got to relay that as an offense. It starts from everybody top down. But ultimately, you know, it's on me. Did you hear anything or say anything in the huddle about, hey, you know, we've got to get the clock stopped here? Yeah, it's got to be better. It's just got to be better.
Starting point is 00:27:41 The next question was, how did it feel to play like yourself? and I shouted at my television, What happened? Somebody tell me what happened. You're not telling me what happened. We got to be better. What happened? Yeah, yeah, I know you got to be better.
Starting point is 00:28:01 You can't be worse. Like, yeah, you got to be better. That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you got to be better. Well, we know you've got to be better than that. That's the worst thing anyone's ever seen. You are meeting the moment, Dan Levitart.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You got the answer, Dan. You got to be better. Here's the thing, though. The thing that's funny about everything that you saw yesterday is it's actually forgivable and understandable that the viewer at home thinks the Cooper Cup catches controversial because we don't actually know what the rules and it looked like he got the first down. That part I'm willing to argue about. This part, we all know everybody watching. somebody watching football for the first time. It's looking at the clock.
Starting point is 00:28:52 If somebody was watching football for the first time and said, how did that game end? What just happened there? You would not be able to explain to them what the hell happened. And then when you go into the press conference afterward, that's where the explanation is supposed to happen. How am I more confused afterward than I was already? How many observations is that?
Starting point is 00:29:13 We're on 137. Oh, we're just on 176. That's two. I've given two so far. I've got these stacks. Nope, 39. Dan, how does he not know that were 45 seconds left? Is he not thinking about anything? Like he's saying it has to start from the top.
Starting point is 00:29:33 We've got to get the right play. And can you imagine Marino? It's like, I don't know what do we do? My question to all of you is this, okay? My question, I'm going to say everybody with Washington forgot. will you ever will you ever forget the end of that football game
Starting point is 00:29:52 any of you will you I told you last week I told you the word association I do with Herm Edwards is in the 70s and a game was lost they handed the ball to Larry Zonka he picked up a fumble that never should have happened it was pre-victory formation
Starting point is 00:30:06 like victory formation did not exist in football it's what I associate with Herm Edwards you mean at the beginning they didn't have like all right just knee it and we're good Those were the days. Out on the road, it's nice to have a partner who could help you make the most of your journey, a partner like the Loves Rewards app.
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Starting point is 00:32:16 Jonathan Sasselow. It's a good algorithm. This is the Dan Levatar show. Jeremy, put it on the poll. When was Victory Formation invented? Do you know? And look it up for me as well, please. I would love to know the day where someone decide, guys, it's kind of a radical idea.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Listen to this. But when there's little time remaining and we have the ball and we're ahead, we're going to line up like this. And guess what? I'm going to call it victory formation. What do you do? You just knee it? Like put my knee on the ground? But you'll lose yards.
Starting point is 00:32:51 No, that's okay. But the clock runs? Because the clock's going to run. How many times? Do you think that person was called the P-word? Beyond that, when did it evolve into? And just in case, it might have been after Hermed Edward. We're going to put a guy 10 yards behind the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:33:07 We forgot about this. Why? The first original victory formation, I don't think, had someone 10 yards back. And why are we going to do that? Just in case. What are they doing? So the victory formation was developed in the 1978 NFL season after the miracle at the Meadowlands. A botched final play, similar to the botched word I just had in a game between the New York Giants and the Philadelphia Eagles that resulted in a fumble and a pivotal last second score.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And the Eagles named their version the Herman Edwards because he was the cornerback who scored the winning touchdown. So think about what we're saying here. I'm asking you the question. What game was that? And who were the teams playing? Because I believe this ending... And who won? Is that ending?
Starting point is 00:33:51 I believe they're the same and they should be remembered as such. But I don't know if I've got this right. Will week five be remembered Zazz, 50 years from now? I mean, I don't know how many years they should remember for a long time. Yeah. It was shocking yesterday. I'm just, I'm bringing up something from 50 years ago.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Right now, I'm bringing it up. And I'm asking you if what we saw yesterday, look, man, that international game was international. additionally dumb. Like, it just, just for that not to be the dumbest ending and the dumbest game and that was played yesterday means that you have to have a bunch of cavemen out there who are running these military schools who are short-circuiting at the end where Siriani's considered one of the champion smart ones, and he's not.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Believe it or not, I think the rest of Jade and Daniel's career could determine how long we remember that play for. Like, if he winds up not being very good, we're going to point to this, this was the beginning of the end. If he winds up being great, wins a suitable, no one's going to care. My question to you guys as well is, what's going to be the victory formation equivalent that emerges from, this will never happen again. Like, we'll never see a game end that way again where a quarterback is running around in loop-de-loops and doesn't know how much time is left, doesn't know how many timeouts he has, doesn't know what he's supposed to do, doesn't know how to
Starting point is 00:35:07 stop the clock, doesn't know how to play football anymore in any reasonable way. You want us to take a knee and lose yards? Yes, I've done the math. Game clock, play clock. Nobody's ever done this before, though. Number of downs, I crunch the numbers. We'll never have to give them the ball back. Will the ref no?
Starting point is 00:35:25 He might be a little bit confused, but it's okay. If I put my knee on the ground, will the ref no? Or am I going to get tackled? He'll know. He'll know. They're going to stop tackling me, right? It's like we're giving ourselves up. We don't do that, though. Oh, yeah, I know, but I did the math.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And the time's going to run out. going to win. This is so advanced that it'll only be a couple years later where they realize they don't have to take the knee right away. They can kind of fake it a little bit until people get closed and then they take the knee. But then we're losing more yards. It's okay. It's okay. But the time is more important. Still going to run. Do you guys totally understand what I'm saying when I say this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in the sport this recently adjacent to what happened at the end of that NC State. game.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Man, now that you mention it, that was dumber. No way is that dumber. That was dumber. No, because at least they were trying to accomplish something. What was the Daniels trying to accomplish? It does lose the game, though. If they lost the game, this was a draw. This does lose the game. I've never seen anything like that. I do love
Starting point is 00:36:29 the Giants players celebrating the tie. There's nothing more pathetic than the tie. It was so great. It was so great. Did it stop it? Yeah! Did it stop it? We tie! Look.
Starting point is 00:36:41 This is the funny thing about all of that. I genuinely laugh most times that a game ends on, oh, somebody just fumbled it wasn't caused, or a missed kick. Like, you're celebrating, but you didn't do anything. It was just a soccer player came out and wasn't good at his job, and you get to win congratulations. But that celebration is among the most pathetic that I have ever seen. Unequivocally, you had the game a few minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:37:07 You're running back as weepy on the sidelines. He spent the offseason doing backflips even. though his knees hurt. He runs into walls. He was in that game being emotional about, yeah, I'm going to get those 60 yards and I'm going to do it with the top of my head. Watch me. I'm going to just batter into you and I'm going to be tougher than you and it doesn't matter to me what my brain feels like in 20 years. I'm going to go straight through this wall. Oh, no, I fumbled. Now I'm on the sidelines. I've taken off my helmet. You realize I'm balding. I don't look like the powerful great athlete that you see on Sundays. We power through. No one noticed.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I'm somebody who is going to be on the sidelines. And when Chris Myers makes his historic call, he's going to immediately think of me and how I've been rescued and how my teammates are celebrating because hooray, Scataboo is not the goat. Daniels. Yeah, he's not passing the ball. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Now, they don't have a timeout. What are they doing? Oh, my goodness. They're not going to spike it. They're not going to be able to get this done of time. It's going to run out of them. The clock ran out of them. out as Daniels ran the ball.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And Scadabu says I'll take the tie and get out of town. Get out of town. Scatombegallon. It's great. It became about... Get out of town. Did they meet the moment? Is this our new, the opposite of do you believe in miracle? Tony, you know that moment at a party or a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks?
Starting point is 00:38:32 I know it well. It's usually when I show up. Everybody goes crazy. Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it. But it's because Tony usually walks. in with quervo. I'm walking like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.
Starting point is 00:38:46 It has that effect on people. It does. You usually take the credit for it. But again, it's the quervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it quervo. Keep it quervo, baby.

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