The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Hockey Show: Blubbering in Boston

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

Brad Marchand returned to Boston this week, and with Rose and Ethan both out, our very own Danny GQ steps in with a hot take we have yet to hear about his reaction! Roy and David break down the emotional moment for the 37-year-old, before Krysten fills in for Rosie on Rosa En Un Minuto, and the boys get into their wins and fails of the week, including an all-time jersey matchup, an MLB-NHL crossover, and a lights malfunction in the Saddledome in Calgary. Johnny Lazerus of the Daily Faceoff's Morning Cuppa Hockey podcast joins the show for this week's guest interview to discuss his New York Rangers' slow start on offense, how Matthew Schaefer's incredible start has elevated the image of the New York Islanders, and the potential of the Utah Mammoth after a great start. Then, it's time to step into the Panthers' Den, where it is dark times right now. The boys recap a tough week for the Cats and assess where the two-time defending champions stand after eight games. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We have a producer. Do we not? Yes, we have a film and producer right now behind the wheels of steel. On the ones the Jews. Hey, everybody, what's going on? Doing good, doing good. He watched one panther game this year. Is that good?

My ratio, one for seven, is that... I think it's a decent ratio, considering you're not a hockey guy. I'm a panther's fan. I don't exactly watch all... How many they play? 82. Yeah, 82, yeah. Look at that. See?

I watched the big games. I saw the game on ESPN against the Bruins. Did you? You didn't watch opening night, huh? I did not watch opening night. Oh, boy. I'm excited to hear your hockey tapes based off our off air chats. Now I think about it, I saw them raise the banner, and then I changed the channel. Oh, wow. All you saw was the banner, you didn't stay for the game. No, no.

Just assumed the win? Did they win? I have no idea. They did win. They won the first three games of the season. Great. And they're not looking so good so far, huh? No, they are not. They're not. Let's get into what happened in Boston. We'll talk about the game a little later,

but the Panthers strolled in the Boston on Tuesday to play the Bruins. And it was a big deal. It's a gigantic deal because it was the return of Brad Mawshend, their former captain last year, the Bruins front office, and Brad Marshond did not agree to a potential contract extension and it kind of hurt Brad Marshion. Tell apart a little bit. Yes, it did.

If you guys remember during the four-nation tournament, he and Sam Bennett buried the hatchet. And for some strange reason, it was that hatchet burial, which is why Brad Marshant decided to go to the Bruins front office and said, there's only one place for me to go if you're going to trade me, and that is to the Florida Panthers. That's smart, though. Very smart. You know, the defending champions at that time, you know, they were on the up and the, There's a good chance that they might repeat, and they eventually did. Well, he didn't want to go somewhere else just to lose to Florida.

Like, he could have stayed in Boston for that. Or lose in the first round. Well, that's what I was, like, you know, the best case scenario is either go to the Panthers and win Stanley Cups or go somewhere else and probably lose to the Panthers over the next decade. Yeah, that's true. Now, he did not play the Bruins last season after the trade deadline because he was injured. He returned a little bit before the playoffs started. And as we said, the rest is history.

Now, going into this week, Paul Maurice decided to start Marshaun's line. So he was out there on the ice during the national anthem, which is a really good moment there. Not his national anthem, but... Yeah, well, I mean, he is Canadian, so he just stood there and like, okay, I'm getting ready for the game, blah, blah, blah. It's not for today's discussion, but it's such a silly thing that they still do that. Yeah, it's stupid. It's stupid. And what they did in Texas is even done. Now, they made it mandatory via law in Texas to play the national anthem and sporting events.

But whatever. Well, that's another discussion. But the big moment happened during the Bruins tribute video to him. That was really, really nice. Everybody stood. They applauded. And Brad Marchant was a blubbering mess. He was tearing up.

And it makes sense considering that he spent 16 years in that city winning one Stanley Cup in 2011. Very classy by the Brayshund. Bruins, by their fans, just overall, it's a really cool moment by everybody involved. I like what I saw. I mean, I don't know how much hockey fans in general, and we'll toss it to Danny here for his take on this, but to see a tough hockey player, not just any tough hockey player, but Brad Marchand's been one of, you know, controversial for a good chunk of the first part of his career, but certainly one of the toughest guys in the league.

Plays bigger than his body. Oh, absolutely. but the waterworks were flowing, Danny. He was a big blubbering mess, Roy. You took the word from me. It was excessive. Okay, let me just say it. It was excessive.

He's not the first legend to return back to, is he even from Boston? Did he grow? He's from Nova Scotia. Exactly. It's not even like his hometown. He's not the first legendary player to go back to the city that drafted him. It was a little much. And I'm a Panthers fan.

I like Brad Marchand. I was happy when we traded for him last season, but it was, I was watching. in the game with my wife, and even she was like, why is this dude crying so much? But does she know that he spent 16 years playing for the Boston Bruins? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if he played there for one year and he won a cup. It was a lot. It was very dramatic.

Would it be allowable if it was his hometown? If he grew up in Boston, played his whole career there, the trade. Like, I equated to like LeBron going back to Cleveland. I could obviously understand. That's very emotional. Grew up there, drafted by the team, won championships, whatever. But it's not like this. guy's even from Boston. What's going on there? It was very excessive. He was a big

bloodbbering mess. He's got a point. He does have a point. Do I necessarily agree with him? I don't know, but that's a very valid point by GQ. It's very smart for Paul Maurice not to put him back on the ice immediately after that video tribute because the tears would have frozen on the ice. It would have been bad. But he had to get himself together and he did and he did very well because he had two assists in that game and he got the first start. But that game was a mess, especially in the third period,

and we'll get into that a little bit later. But there was a good story out of Buffalo this week because of rookie goaltender Colton Ellis. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, Buffalo Sabres' goaltender situation is an interesting run. Our old boy Alex Lyons is doing okay. Yeah.

Yucca Lucan is hurt, and they waved Alexander Georgiev, sent him to Rochester, right? So they claimed Ellis after the blues waived him. So after that, it's him and Alex Lyon. Those are the two goaltenders that the Buffalo Sabres have right now. Alex Lyon came from Detroit via free agency. So those are the two goaltenders.

Ellis made us debut when the Sabers beat the Red Wings four to two on Wednesday. The Red Wings did not have a shot on goal until 10 minutes into the first period. That's so tough from a goaltending perspective, too. Your first game, you're so jacked up. The emotions are flowing. All you want to do is stop some pucks. Yeah. And then you're just standing around.

He eventually stopped 27 of those pucks out of 29 shots on goal by Detroit. Made 10 high danger saves out of 12. Those two goals came in the high danger area and stopped six shots off of rebounds. Got his first NHL career win in his first NHL career start. UPL is close to returning for the Sabres. So again, the Buffalo Sabres' goal to end his situation is interesting. interesting, and they are going to have to make some decisions. The UPL has been the goalie of the future for a while.

Like, when is he going to be the goalie of now? The goal, the goalie of the current? Kind of like Smith's Night in Chicago, huh? Well, and the Sabres, I mean, you know, I mean Alex Lyon, we love Alex Lyon, but I feel like he's almost like, for lack of a better term, like a placeholder. Because they got UPL. Devin Levi is still floating around somewhere. And this is a team that's been stockpiling future assets,

drafting all these young talented guys, like waiting for the Sabres to turn the corner, it's like, you know, that meme, like, looking at your watch. Down the street from the corner, the way things are looking like. Yeah, they're right there. But that was really cool by Ellis. And he said after the game that, like, he found out the day before

that he was starting, so he was able to get a bunch of his family members into Buffalo, and they kept showing them on the screen. They all had their Sabers' jerseys. You just love to see that. Yeah. A bit of an update here from our friend Emily Kaplan, who reported that the event that was scheduled to happen on, And what would have been NHL All-Star weekend this season is an Olympic send-off.

That has been canceled. That event was supposed to be held at UBS Arena in Nassau County on the island. The NHL will hold the All-Star game in 2027 next season at UBS Arena. Now, if you remember back in May, New York Governor Kathy Hochel sent a strongly worded letter to NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman about the season's All-Star game being canceled. and urged him to create an event that's equal or greater to that. Well, now they only have one event, and that's next season. Equal two.

Equal two. Hey, that's your All-Star game. It'll be fun in 27 to drag your ass up to the home of the Islanders. Me? Yeah, you. We've covered All-Star games before, sir. Yes, yeah. But you want me to go up to New York?

I do. We have fun in New York. We don't have to hang out in. Uniondale the whole time We don't have to hang out in Long Island Or wherever the new arena is Is it Bay, God, I want to say Bayfront Park

I'm so Miami Bayfront Park Belmont? Belmont, thank you God Because Miami back on the house Bending horses over here You know that

God that sounds like fun Bending on horses? Yeah, go to the track So I can lose money Oh, I did that for Kinney Maine by the way You've got to be undry though But if we're going to go beding I got to drink the bet

Really on horses? I feel like it kind of would be a fun situation. You go there, have a few drinks, bet on the ponies, a couple bites to eat. It's in March. I'm just saying, you know, good times are ahead. You just got to get you back on the wagon, off the wagon. Which one is it? Whatever it is, there's a wagon involved.

Who knows? Danny, do you know the expressing off or on the wagon? I'm going to go on the wagon. Okay, on the wagon. We've got to get you back on the wagon. All right, well, there you go. The NHL, by the way, did it again. In their relentless pursuit to promote Cindy Crosby

ahead of everybody else in the league, they treated this out during the Penguins Panthers game. As Crosby scored two goals and an assist, this treat happened after his first goal and assist. Cindy Crosby scored in his fourth straight game and established the longest goal streak by a Penguins player, aged 38 or older. That's so specific.

He also added an assist in the second period to record his 497th career multi-point game. He's sixth all-time in multi-point games. For people of a certain age or just of every age? Of every age. Why are we doing this? They are doing this to piss me off. Why should I care about 38-year-old men or older?

Because the NHL says so. Because it's Sidney Crosby. I don't care. He's still that guy. I mean, the fact that we're still doing this. with everything that McDavid has done in the last few years? It's not even a round number, David. It's 38.

38. It's not 35. It's not 40. It's 38. It's right in the middle. A useless stat by the National Hockey League that they just decided to throw out there because they want to continue to promote Cindy Crosby ahead of everybody in the league. Wasn't your fail last week when they celebrated him moving into like ninth place on the all-time

assists list by players with like, you know, eyebrows that don't reach more than three inches long or something? Yeah, that was my fail. In fact, last night, I can't go over the three-star process that we do every single home game for the Panthers. And every game in the National Hockey League, journalists have to do. Go over that. Okay, so every game, the local journalists, well, whoever's there, the journalists from the teams that are covering the press bots, they are handed an index card. We then write our three stars of the game, up to us, our discretion, whoever we want. We hand it back to Team PR.

It's a pretty simple process. We usually get the cards early in the third period, turn them in generally by the last TV timeout. So that's the process. So Roy got his car. You tell the story. It's your story. All right, so I got my card.

In fact, I'm going to pull up the pitchers so I can go off a reference. Now, when Sidney Trosby scored his goal and his assist, I didn't expect him to get another goal in that situation. So, yeah, my original three stars were going to be Sidney Crosby 3rd, Tristan Jari second, and Eric Carlson first, and the Panthers lost against the Pittsburgh Penguins. Now, originally, I was wavering between actually turning that in and not turning in. I was shot that you had his name on your card. Yeah, so did I.

But then Cindy Crosby scored, and in that situation, I would have had to have made him the first star. So I abstain from turning my card in because I am a journalist. with integrity. You were going back and forth, like, Crosby should be my first. I'm not going to turn it in. I'm crossing names out. I'm moving names around. Because at one point...

I was going to put Brad Monshon in there as well. There was a Roy Bellamy three-star list with Sidney Crosby as your number one. That existed for a brief period of time. Yeah. And when Brad Monson got a second goal, I crossed out Tristan Jari and place Monson second. Because the Panthers were losing. So, Cindy Crosby scored a second goal. and then I just crumping out the paper

and just doing the garbage and like, see you later. So yeah, again, integrity. Well, lucky for you, that's their only visit to South Florida. Yeah. Isn't it weird, though, that like the two games? Two in Pittsburgh.

Back-to-back days. It's like a Saturday, a Sunday, in March, I think it is. We're trying to drag you up there for that. It's stupid. It really is. It's weird. We have a new segment

that's going to probably just maybe make you money. It's time for puck luck. Sponsored by Draft Kings. Draft Kings. The crown is yours. David. Yes. All right.

This week's weekly puck luck parley for our Friday night's slate of NHL games. I've got three picks for you. First off, from the Toronto at Buffalo game, we're going to take Austin Matthews over three and a half shots on goal. Buffalo allows the second most shots in the NHL at 33.1 behind only. San Jose. And Matthews has hit the over in four of a seven games this season also. His career in Buffalo, he averages over four shots a game,

and his past three visits to Buffalo have seen Matthews put up six, five, and five shots on goal. Then in the San Jose New Jersey game, we're going to take the over six and a half because San Jose cannot keep the puck out of their net. But they do score a lot. They've scored three or more in each of their past four games, and they've allowed at least three. In every game this season, the Devils have won six in a row, and they average four goals at home. Final leg is Kyle Connor from the Caldariat Winnipeg game over two and a half shots. He's hit that number in three straight games. and in all of Winnipeg's home games this season

where he's averaging five shots on goal, total odds on your parlay for puck luck this week is plus 448. So go ahead and make you some money. So there you have it. Austin Matthews over three and a half shots, over six and a half goals in the Sharks Devils game, and Carl Conner, over two and a half shots on goal for a plus 448 odds total.

That is puck luck. Go ahead and win you some money. All right, we appreciate everybody who watches and listens to the show, and you guys can ask us questions on our various amounts of social media platforms. We have a question from at Klaus Hisser. Top five goons of all time. Are they still needed in today's game? And yes to that lot of questions.

So top five goons of all time. What you got, Dave? I couldn't put this in a particular order because it just felt weird. My list, I've got Tai Wadomi, Bob Probert. Yeah. Terry the Tasmanian devil O'Reilly Yeah Marty McSorley

And Stu Grimson Very good My O-L-I's were like Rob Ray I wanted to throw like Donald Brigier And George LaRocke on there Because those guys are just rumble Yeah Yeah

In terms of longevity I mean Because like Ryan Reeves Kind of goes into that Matt Rempe He's I mean what else is he other than that He's a guy that takes Punches to the face

That's who Matt Rempier is at least What about you Roy? Let's see I got Tiger Williams Rob Ray, Tide, Domi, Stu Grimson, Bob Probert. Those are my five. And, of course, George LaRocke, and Donne Brasier, and Peter Woyle. Oh, L-I's.

Paul L-L-I's. Paul Laws as well. Yeah, I mean, I can go with a top ten on that one, boy. I'll tell you that. Those are some of my favorite people. To answer the initial question, it's a very integral role in hockey, even nowadays. Like, you need to have a guy that the other team is afraid is going to come after them if you go after their star player.

It's just, it's a big part of it. Like, Matthew Schaefer, last. night. Everybody went after the guy that went after Matthew Schaefer. All right, it is time for Rosa in Unun Minuto, and as I mentioned before, Rosie is not here.

So we went into the office and got ourselves a sub on the fly, and that is Kristen. She's going to provide this minute update for Rosie. Hit it, Danny. Probably would be a good idea. You turned your mic on.

It's on. Oh, it's on? It says on. All right. Go ahead. Hello, guys. This is a minute of hockey with Rose, no Rose, Christine. Los Tavres,

they were a week of a lot more money. Arrancared with a victory 3-0 on, so the champions, the Florida Panthers. Josh Doan was the three with two goals in PowerPlay, and Alex Leon se leon was with 32 attas

for his first shutdown of the year. Buffalo congeled to the Panthers, literal. Diego, they traveled, where the Canadiensians were incendium in the third period.

Slavoski, Hudson, and Evans were to give the word to the marker and Uncle Kulich and Kozak metiering goals, the Libres fell four or two. But they recuperated

on Detroit. Debuted the porter Cortin Elise that's the first partied in the HED took, 27 three-tiles, and she left the victory

four-odd-old. Jack Quinn brough with a goal and two assistantsias and the one he went to notar. So Buffalo is the summer with two triumphs

important and a derota and a lot of because this night received a Toronto. This was a hockey with

Rose, no, Kristen, where the yellow arde and Buffalo begins to refugit. Ah, very good. That sounded so nice.

Sounded so nice. Such a beautiful voice there, Kristen. All right, so that was Rosa Ennu Minuto via Kristen. And now it's time for Rose

minute with Kristen. Take it away. Okay. Hey kids, this is one minute of hockey with Rose with Kristen. The savers had quite an event for a week. They started strong with 3-0 win over the defending champs, the Florida Panthers. Josh Juan was a star

with two power play goals and Alex Lyons shined with 32 saves for first shot out of the season. Buffer literally froze the Panthers. Then they traveled to Montreal where the Canadians heated up the third period. Nice. Lovsky, Hutchin, and Evans all scored to flip the game. And although Kulich and Kazak found

the net, the Sabres fell two. They bounced back fast. Against Detroit, goalie Colton Ellis made his NFL debut, stopped 27 shots and earned his first career win for two. Jack Quinn stood out with a goal and two assist, and DeWan scored again. So Buffalo ends the week with two big wins and one tough loss. And heads up, they're hosting Toronto tonight. That was one minute of hockey with Rose, aka Kristen, where the ice burns and Buffalo starts to roar. That was wonderful, Kristen. We appreciate you coming in and showing your beautiful face on camera, even though you did not want to because you complain about your hair. That's awesome.

Thank you very much. That's great. Very good. Grazie. Grazie. That's how you say? Grasias. There you go.

It is time for wins and fails of the week presented by Yeager Meister. Serve it cold or don't serve it at all. Yeager Meister. Damn. That's cold. For more, long,

on the Yeager Meister. Now, calm, drink responsibly. Dave, what is your win? My win of the week is a fashion win of the week. Last night, we got an amazing taste of jerseys in Colorado.

It was the Whale The Whalers against the Nordiques In Denver It was very cool Yeah, the jerseys were awesome They're the Nordique jerseys Gabe Landis caught showing them off The goalies were wearing

Like vintage looking pads It was so, so nice and sexy And cool Look at that, dude Does that bring you back? Yes Yes, oh my goodness Mike Ritchie and Joe Sackick Oh my goodness

Peter Forsberg Stefan Fisci Oh it's definitely Farm Feast. Oh, my goodness. And that Rangers' Series, that Rangers' playoffs series. Oh, man. Was that 93? Yeah, yeah, I think so. 92? I don't know. Whenever it was, that was cool. But what sucks for the Nordites fans,

the year they moved. Yeah. Was the year the Colorado won the Cup? Of course it was. That's what tends to happen. I'm sure the Cleveland Browns fans feel the same way. Well, even the Whalers, right? Like Carolina, like, what was it, 10 years? Less than 10 years when they won their cup? Mm-hmm. Yeah. My winner week goes through the Toronto Blue Jays

First Baseman, Vladimir Guerrilla Jr. Game 7 of the American League Championship Series versus the Seattle Mariners. Guerrero walked in the Rogers Center wearing an Austin Matthews Maple Leafs Road jersey. Now, me, myself, and I, I personally thought that this move was going to cost the Blue Jays the series. I was wrong. No, it's only one the Maple Leafs wear Maple Leafs gear that the curse is intact. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I'm sure Canada felt the same way I did. But that wasn't the case. Guerrilla himself went one for four. That wasn't the story. George Springer had a three run, home run, to send the Blue Jays into the World Series. Now, mind you, in response to Guerrero wearing that Maple Leafs jersey,

Austin Matthews came in to Scotia Bank Arena, wearing a blue Vladimir Guerrero Jr., Blue Jays jersey. The Maple Leafs promptly lost 5 to the New Jersey. It's a Toronto thing, man. It's a Maple Leafs thing. Matthews went in that game, was a minus two. Yeah. What's your fail, Dave?

My fail was a game played in the dark. The other night in Calgary, Montreal and the Flames. The game was delayed like 10 minutes because the lights, half the lights in the arena went out and then they decided, well, let's just play anyway. So then they played in the dark. And that must have sucked more for the goalies than anyone else. That seems like a massive fail.

I know that building is really old, but like, what are we doing? Yeah, they used the ribbon board. The ribbon board was all white just to provide enough light for them to see the puck apparently. So, yeah, it was a bad situation. My fail of the week goes to Sharks' head coach Ryan Woossovsky when he said this. A lot of new players, we've got to just keep working.

Keep teaching from the coaches. We're going to keep preparing them. But yeah, trust me, it sucks. Keep telling myself, there's got to be a reason why this keeps happening in a sense. You know, I give up one of my children for a fucking win. So it's frustrated. I'm sorry for swearing. We're very, very frustrated, and we need to keep working at it.

That's right. He said he would give up one of his children for a one. Well, his wife must win of those comments because he quickly apologized and took back what he said. He said, quote, I love my kids. I would never give them up. I love my wife. Obviously, I'm a passionate, emotional person and probably got ahead of me there. So I apologize for those comments.

Luckily for him, he finally got his win. I'm sure he kept all of his children when the sharks beat the Rangers last night. We have Johnny Lazarus coming up next. He's going to talk about those New York Rangers who finally decided to score goals. It's a good thing for them. They scored five, but they lost in overtime. Does the San Jose Sharks? What a bad situation.

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Limited time offer. Johnny Lazarus of Daily Faceaw joins us here. He covers the New York Rangers, and he has a lot to talk about because the Rangers have not scoring. They did last night, though. They just happened at home. They're not scoring at home, but they did last night. The New York Rangers came into last night's game against the Shark scoring only one goal

in four games, four games, and then they explored it for five goals, which included a hat trick for Taylor Radish versus the San Jose Sharks, but they could not overcome Macklin Celebrini's hat trick and five-point game. Dueling hat-tricks. You don't see that very often. Yeah, you don't see that very often. Losing an overtime, six to five. That is the Sharks' first win in the season.

And again, the coach can give up his kid now. Yeah, that's his family together. That's really refreshing. Yeah, so, Johnny, you covered this team. What exactly is going on in the Rangers? Is it getting used to Mike Sullivan's system, or is there something worse? What are we expected for them for the rest of the season? I think last night, first of all, Roy, Dave, good to be here with you guys always.

Thank you, Johnny. But I think last night was, you know, and J.T. said it, he said in the locker room after, I don't think we really respected our opponent enough. And, you know, that's, it's a similar storyline. I mean, you look at teams records and, you know, guys always say, like, there's no easy game in the NHL and coaches say that too. But sometimes it's human nature. I feel like to go out there for a game and just expect it not to be playing against the Florida Panthers, right? So a lot of the, at least three of the goals last night that the Rangers gave up were mental errors and just a team that didn't look mentally engaged.

But that hasn't been the case for the majority of this season. like the rangers through their first eight games before last night really were you know the better team i thought in six of those eight games um you know they they came out flat against minnesota after going up one nothing on that panarin goal early in the game but then the wild took care or took advantage of the first period and then kind of ran with the rest of that game and the home opener was a disaster too but last night just seemed like a team that thought it was going to be an easy 60 minutes. And, you know, I look at the first goal, Mika's Boundjeet and Gavikov, both check the same guy behind the net, Colin Graf, and he finds Adam Goddette wide open in front. The third goal

of the game, Sam Carrick doesn't really support the 50-50 battle and stay below the puck as a center. He gets off with about, you know, 15 seconds left in the period. And Macklin Celebrini, you know, well, Cooley doesn't win the battle on the boards. And Celebrini, you find some open space and he beat your stirk on top shelf. But, you know, Lafranier's puck management at the end of the second period. Again, just just guys that did not seem mentally engaged in that game. And I think it's just because they looked across the ice and saw a zero four and two record and expected it to be an easy 60 minutes. So one guy who I think has been outstanding for the Rangers this year so far, Johnny, is Ben, you just mentioned him, Igor Shus Thurkin. You know, last year coming off

the big Vezna campaign definitely wasn't what we were thinking and hoping. But this year, while he's only got two wins, 1.86 goals against an awesome safe percentage of 930. He's already got a shut out. I think he looks just as good as he did in his Vesna year. But are you seeing similar? And is that kind of a reason for optimism for the Rangers amid this not so great start? Yeah. The only thing I would argue against that is saying in the Vesna year, the Rangers were being totally outplayed, especially in their own end. And Igor had to put up with a lot of crap. where this year for the most part there hasn't really been a lot of loud chances against the rangers have done a pretty decent job in their own zone and um you know not getting hemmed in and not

honestly allowing a lot of odd man rushes you know last night was the first game i can think of where you know the chances against were were really noisy and it seemed like they were coming um you know nonstop so whilst circan has certainly been great this year i i don't think he's been tested as much as he was in that Vesna year. You know, granted, it's still nine games in, and that could certainly become a trend. But the Rangers have really done an excellent job, for the most part, at defending in front of him.

Last night was not one of those cases, and that's why each other sharks put up five goals. But in the previous eight games, while he's had to come up big in a lot of those games, I don't think it's nearly the workload that he's had in years prior. You noticed that's in an ice last night, during pre-game skate, Ryan Reeves, and I believe it was all Timmy Prenneran having a nice conversation.

And as they wrapped up, as Ryan Reeves was about to skate away, Matt Rimpie skated over and must have said something to Revo because those two got into a pretty massive fight, a couple of heavyweights going at it. And, I mean, it was a, it was just haymaker at the haymaker. And Matt Rimpi ended up leaving the game early after this fight with an upper body injury. And clearly it was because he took.

took a couple of haymakers to the head because Rampé is a terrible fighter. Rimpi's the only guy that I've ever seen make Ryan Reeves look anything but massive. Like I always used to look at Ryan Reeves like this guy is like Frankenstein on the ice. He's huge. But then I look at him next to Rempe

and holy cow. Like he makes Ryan Reeves look normalized. Yeah, he managed to pull the jersey off of Reveau's head and put some hammerfish on him, but that's pretty much it. Describe the scene for us. What exactly happened? Um, well, that, the warm up conversation, um, again, like, I think everyone knows the relationship and friendship between Ryan Reeves and our training Panarin, especially after I think it was on missing curfew where Ryan Reeves was talking about him and Panarin used to like play basketball or something and drink some vodka like after games. So, uh, those two guys, that was clearly a friendly conversation happening at Center Ice. And, you know, Rempe took his opportunity to, to get Rebo at the red line and, and give him a heads up that he wanted one. Um, and those two have had some, you know,

know, I guess previous history, going back to the Rangers in Toronto a couple years ago when Reeves was there and Reeves was putting the lineup basically to fight Rempey. But again, like whenever you see a heavyweight on the other side, it's somewhat anticipated that those two were going to go at it at some point in the evening. And, you know, I think last night, Rempey kind of went at a perfect time. The Rangers had a really slow start to the game. Ryan Reeves throws a big hit on Yusop Harson and Rempey steps up for his teammate and tries to get the crowd going because the crowd last night and, you know, warranted, they were

dead because the Rangers came out the first two minutes San Jose dominates and they score a goal and that quiets the crowd. So we didn't ask Mike Sullivan what he thought of the timing of Rempe's fight. I would have imagined he would have said, you know, it was necessary because it did give the guys a boost a little bit. I mean, Radish did score, you know, actually I think the shark scored the next goal after the fight, but that was a weird bounce in the power play. And then Radish came out and scored a couple minutes later. But that said, obviously you don't like the result of losing a player for the rest of the game. game. So, you know, it's tough. It's part of hockey. I know some fans like it or some fans don't

like it. Other fans do. I think it's great theater always. If guys are willing to put their body on the line, you know, sometimes that does sacrifice a little bit, but it's always been a part of this sport. And it's a part of the beauty of the sport, too. That's what separates us, I think, from the other sports. So, you know, I was a fan of it. I got the building going. You know, Ryan Reeves and Renpey were both great showmen. Obviously, Rebo had that great quote after the game, too, just talking about how it all went down and basically totally. Rempey off the draw, like, let me run somebody and then we'll go. But yeah, I mean, who doesn't love a center ice fight like that, you know?

So looking at the standings right now, we're about, what, two and a half weeks into the season, and I like how many surprises we're seeing, Johnny, looking in the Atlantic, Montreal and Detroit, both leading the way, young players, it's fun to see the excitement from there over in the West. Chicago looking really good, Spencer Knight, great and goal, our boy Frank Nizar looking spectacular along with Connor Bardard. And then the Oilers and the Kings, the upper other side of the spectrum. Maybe not where we

expected them to be. So as we talk about surprises early in the season, anything jump off the page of you? I mean, honestly, does it have to be a team? No, no, no, no. It could be a player. It could be a team. It could be whatever. I think this

Matthew Schaefer story has been unbelievable. You know, obviously the Islanders had a big seven two routing win last night against the team that was pretty hot in Detroit right like they were on a pretty good run before losing to Buffalo the other night but you know the Islanders again were a team that I don't think many people thought would make the playoffs or even do think we'll get that right but the fact that they're four three and oh right now and their 18 year old first overall pick has been their best player

yeah um you know with bars out too I'll give bars out a lot of credit also you know I don't think anybody could have anticipated an 18 year old defenseman to step in and do a Schaefer's doing and the way he's doing it too right he's he's like an he might be the most unhatable player i've ever seen um obviously his story going into the draft was very well documented and you know the loss of a mother i think everyone can can sympathize with and and feel um but also just his ray of positivity that he continuously brings away from the rink you know his postgame interview with shannon hogan the other night was unbelievable and you know you you see a mature kid but you do also see a kid who's just so excited to be here and not just to be here, but to excel.

And we talk about, you know, Macklin-Salbreni and how he got off to a slow start before the last couple games. And Baderd last year got a lot of criticism, but the personality Schaefer has shown, I'm not saying he won't get any criticism ever, but it's going to be much harder to give a guy like that a hard time when he's just so damn lovable. and for an islander's team that's been known as old and boring and doesn't do media and doesn't highlight their players personalities over the past you know seven or eight years or how long it's been like tony d'angelo and yeah i listen i i i like tony i've gotten to know

him now um oh good for you know yeah i i i didn't i didn't you know obviously i didn't know him um when the the narratives around him were coming out and i had my judgments but when you get to know somebody i think that that changes judgments a little bit too so um from my perspective like i happen to like tony and i i'm not gonna you know argue if people don't like him but you know i do think the islanders as far as their whole media perspective and and highlighting their team and their players it's it's changing and they're fun now and i think you know that's something that islander fans have always had to you know argue about by saying we're not boring we're not boring you know like stop hating on us but you know right now the first seven games they

are they are the furthest thing from boring all right let's put aside the call the trophy right Does Matthew Schaefer have a chance to win the Norris Trophy? Ooh. Like, does he have a chance? I mean, maybe. Like, I don't think he has no chance, but like, Cal is already off.

Cales already off to a great start. You know, Lanes off to a great start again. It's tough to say he has a real shot. But I'm not going to... He's definitely in the conversation so far, for sure. Which is pretty impressive considering he's played, like, what, five in a job? games or whatever it is.

18 years old, yeah, that sort of thing, yeah. Yeah, it's just a, it's just a crush. I mean, he's showing signs of somebody who can actually be an excellent defenseman in this game. Well, would it be surprising to see Schaefer in, like legitimately in that McCarr-Hugh's conversation

in the next, say, three years? Before that, maybe. Yeah. Wow. You know, I think, was Lane in that conversation? I don't know if Lane was. was he was he got some norris votes last year didn't he get a couple like he was right up there yeah but i don't know i still don't know if like in that kind like those two are so different the the hues and mccars um

like while lane's still an incredible skater the explosiveness that those two still have over every other defenseman um is insane like moreensky has shown it a bit at times too but that's more north south versus like lateral hip mobility like the way that kale and quinn can you know do that mohawk and like turn their hips and just beat guys honestly with their legs opened up versus just going straight down it's it's wild uh the talent it takes to have the skating ability of those two is something i have not really seen um but again like shafer is very special and i don't think we've seen an 18 year old defenseman step in and look like this ever a netty-hattie for or Logan Cooley in the first five minutes,

are we expecting big things from the Utah Mammoth? Yeah, I mean, also again, like on home ice, I think they're perfect so far this year. And Nick Schmaltz, Dylan Gunther, Clayton Keller, like those three together have been on fire as well. You know, I know Logan Cooley

obviously is the highlight, but you look at, you know, the top guys right now for Utah and just the overall camaraderie around their organization, right? Like, that's a city that's so bought in on that team. And, an owner that's going to do anything you can to get them into the playoffs because you know they build a brand new facilities um obviously they have this like new mascot tusky i think that

everybody's falling in love with they're just like doing things the right way and and marketing their organization the right way and when you have the players on the ice that are performing it's it's lovable um tusky it is tusky right yeah yeah um again though like clayton keller to me you know i i said it all summer like one of the more underrated guys in the n hl i don't think gets talked about nearly enough and he's off to an incredible start this year and obviously wants to make that team USA roster from Milan but you know we're talking about a guy who's put up three straight 30 plus goals seasons 90 points last year um i think was around 90 points two years ago like he's a star and you know i don't know if utah or arizona at that time had been

well they definitely had not been appointment television but utah right now and again watching them especially at home like it's a good watch it's a fun watch that game against Colorado the other night was a really fun game you know i think avalanche fans are still little pissed about that offside review and and how it was explained um but you got to credit the mammoth for you know bouncing back and and being able to come back in that game and find a way to win i didn't get to see last night's game um so it's hard to speak in detail about last night's win but um yeah they're off to a great start so far i think they've won five in a row now johnny you uh you spent a lot of time with hockey players with

NHL players. One of my favorite things the last few years have been your open skate videos where if you guys haven't seen them, Johnny basically states a lap with every NHL player. I wish I had that idea, man. Every big name you can think of. They're in their full gear and just shooting the shit. It's really cool.

And as a hockey player yourself, obviously, you get it. You get how hockey players are. The reason I'm forming the question like this is I'm thinking ahead to the Olympics coming up. Hockey players, you know, they're rich. They travel well, at the Olympics, they're going to be in dorms. It's going to be a totally different situation.

The Olympic Village. Yes, exactly. The Olympic Village. It's like summer camp. Yeah, carry your condoms. We don't want to talk about that part, dude. Jesus, that's not where I was going with it. I've definitely heard some stories.

Yeah. So, just, they haven't gone in so long. This is going to be kind of a new generation. Obviously, we're going to have, like, the Crosby's and the guys that have done it before. But most of the players are going to be of a different cut from a different cloth a little bit. So I'm just wanted to get your take on, how are they going to handle it?

Is it going to be an issue? It's going to be a non-issue. The traveling, the dorm situation, the less luxurious life of being in the Olympics. Yeah, I mean, less luxurious when you're in Milan, Italy is. The fast food's probably spectacular. Yeah, I don't know. There's definitely worse places to be.

But again, like, Dave, to your point, like, I mean, you know, did you play junior hockey? Yes. Yeah, so you know. Like, you know, you're on the bus. You're eating shitty. subs or Waterburger, you know. I'm not a water burger guy at all. I hate that food.

But these guys have all gone through it. You know, I think junior hockey versus the NHL, like, you know, it's obviously the NHL is a massive step up. And junior hockey has certainly come a long way from where it was maybe, you know, 10, 15 years ago. But when you're also in the Olympics and representing your country and doing all that kind of stuff, like, I don't think these guys give a damn, like where they're sleep, where they're staying. You know, I think it's all about being on the ice and the bonding off the ice. And even if it's not as luxurious, that's still something to bond over, right?

So, you know, I know a lot of guys had, you know, I think in the Peewee Quebec tournament, you're supposed to, like, stay with random people and stuff when you're young. Like, you're in, like, seventh grade. But I'm sure a lot of these guys have experienced something like this at some point. So I don't think it'll be like some sort of culture shock. And finally, all you surprised at how well? Well, Brad Marshant at an advanced age. No.

What do you mean? Okay. Not surprised. You're not, you're not impressed. Not surprised. All right. Well, neither am I, but, you know, at 38. I mean, well, we are doing out useless Sydney Crosby stats.

But, yeah, are you surprised at how well he's playing right now at, again, an advanced age? No. You know, Dave said it already pretty much. But also, like, the Panthers needed someone to step up with Barkov and Kach absence and I think everyone kind of pointed the finger at Marchand and Marchand has been you know a top line player you know for the the majority of like the last 75% of his career at the early parts of his career he's more third line bottom six kind of guy but but helped teams win and I know last year he was playing third line but this is a guy who's you know been you

know 90 plus I think did he I think he had a hundred point year yeah he had he had a hundred point season maybe like five or six years ago um so he He's been a top guy in multiple stages of his career. And he has shown no signs of really slowing down. Obviously, he had some surgery prior to last season and maybe Boston wasn't the best team last year. So the numbers may not have been there. But this is a guy who's been a prolific 20 plus goal score.

You know, plays power play, does everything. And comes up in big moments too. So no, I'm not surprised at all. I don't think anyone really is. All right. Oh, man. It's always great having you on the show, Johnny. I mean, one of these days, you have to come down and all of us, full gear, go down to the Baptist Iceplex and just skate around and do nothing.

Stay less. Winter Classic, you're going to be down here for you. Yeah, you're going to be down here for Winter Classic? Yeah, and I'll have my skates with me. So, you know, maybe I'll throw my stick in and some other gear and we can mess around. I was down there for the Soflow thing this summer. That was great. All for the three on three?

Three on three, yeah. Nice. Yeah, they do a great job. That was a lot of fun. I mean, you know, sharing the ice with like Liv Shunab and who else was that. out there. Obviously, Brandon Duham is like the perfect representative for hockey in Florida. That kid is unbelievable.

His personality, such a sneaky good personality. But yeah, they do a really good job. Cole, Blashman, and Timmy with that league. So shout out to those guys. There's a lot of fun the summer. Thank you, man. I mean, excellent. You're going to come down here at the end of December.

We're all going to get together. You can watch me fall on my ass. New Year's Eve. New Year's Eve. It's going to be a great. Oh, it's going to be a party. Hopefully I can drink. All right. Thank you, Johnny, for joining us.

This is excellent. Johnny will ask for us, everybody. Thanks, Roy. Thanks, Dave. Howdy listeners? It's Mike Ryan and Chris Cody. Hey, everyone. Hey, Chris. We love hanging out so much. You were at my birthday the other day. You're old.

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or in it's time. It's time to head into the Panthers Den, and the Panthers Den is pretty dark right now. It's not been a good time for Florida. Saturday, they lost the Buffalo 3. Nothing. Tuesday, they beat the Bruins 4 to 3 in an emotional game. We'll get to that in the second. Thursday, last night, lost the Pittsburgh 5 to 3. We'll get to that game a little bit later. And Saturday, they will play the Vegas go to nights at home. All right. So, Florida came off of, well, they were still on a disastrous road trip. They have lost four games, all of them, in regulation, after starting the season

with three straight at home. So we'll go and bypass that and move to the last game of the road trip, which was in Boston. We mentioned Brad Marshond and his return to Boston, which was crazy emotional, as Danny GQ said, he was a blubbering mess. Blubbering in Boston. I like it. Yeah, so, and it's understandable.

Blubbering Brad in Boston. The alliteration. Hey, look at you, you're a writer. All right, so he made his return. And the Panthers went into the third period leading two to nothing. And that's when things got crazy, especially in the last three minutes of the game. Boston scored too early in the third before I-2-Lus Rhinan took the lead back. But Morgan Geeky ended up scoring with a minute and a half left to tie the game again.

And then with 26 seconds left, Carter Verhegey shot that went off the post, hit the leg of Andrew Peak. And went into the net, the Panthers would hold on the win, despite. a clock malfunction at the end of the game. So that's what happened. And they finally got their, they broke that losing streak and ended up being four and four at that time, eight points in the standings. Why don't you go over the game?

How did I go for you? It was good to C4 to get going on the power play. That was something that they'd been really been struggling with on the road trip. I think in the Buffalo shutout loss, they had like 15 power play shots. So things were clicking. They just couldn't get the puck in the net, which was really a big story of the entire road trip.

They're underlying numbers, the offensive stats. They were there, maybe not as strong as we're used to seeing from the Panthers when they're at full strength, but certainly good enough to win in a lot of areas. So you could kind of feel that things are going to turn around at some point for the Panthers. Got a little bit of that feeling in the Boston game. The third period was crazy. Blowing a two-gole lead, granted on the road, but still a two-goal lead in the third period, blowing that, taking another lead, blowing that again.

They got lucky with that fluty ass. It reminded me of those. You remember the McDonald's commercials from back in the day with Jordan and Bird? Yeah. Like, off the wall, off the backboard, off the rafters, nothing but net. Shooting from the top of Sears Tower. Yeah, exactly. Like, that's what that goal felt like.

It was just going off everything random. Yeah, so that, they barely made it out of that one. And the Panthers third periods have not been good. And that's not been a hallmarked this team for the past couple of years. No. They have gone in and allowed a lot of goals. Now, granted, a good portion of them empty nets, but still, don't put yourself in that situation. Yes.

Their GPS is malfunctioning. They've lost their map to Shut Down City. They have to... Miss an exit. They've got to figure out how to get back on the right track because Shutdown City is synonymous with Panthers hockey. It's a big part of the way they play. It's going to be something that if they're going to continue to succeed, they're going to have to find their way back. So, yeah, Panthers, Shutdown City.

We need to find your way back to each other. Pandas finally made it back home, weary. I mean, but against the penguins, they did not look good at all, especially in their own defensive zone. I mean, they tried to put an effort up in the third, but then the penguins ended up responding. Again, Cindy Crosby, and that's the only time I'm going to mention him for the rest of the show. That's it, right? But if you look at the game, the East-West defense in the defensive zone was not good. They allowed a lot of cross-size passes leading to one-timers.

In fact, they had three one-timeer goals. Two of those based on cross-nice passes, one of them from a given goal. And one bad goal by Bob that just squeaked right through them. And Bob did not face a lot of shots. I think he faced 16? Yeah, it faced nine shots over the second and third period combined. And four of them went in. Yeah, not good.

Now, the power play last night, the power play in Boston, very, very good. Yeah, it looks much better. And but the pin one to kill, middle of the pack. Interesting, though, with Anton Lindell, Mackie Sam Mastevich, getting some time in that top power play unit, taking Aaron Akblad, putting him on the second unit, moving Sam Bennett to that unit, and it looks like some of those buttons at Paul Maurice is pushing the right ones.

Yeah. Brad Marshion, team leading 10 points had two goals in that game. And the old man is... In his last two games for Brad Marshin. The old man is propelling the offense for Florida. At least he's trying. I mean, come on. The Panthers, like, they're not scoring.

It seems like the only person who is scoring is Bramarshan and a little bit of Etta Lus Rina. No, I'm just looking at their scoring right now. Like, your top four scores are not Sam Reinhart, Carter Verhege. Your top four scores are Marshaan, Lundell, Mackie, Sam Mastevich, and Seth Jones. No four were, or Sam Reinhart, only has four points. Carter Verhadi has three points. Edgblett has three points. Sam Bennett has two points.

So the guys you're expecting to contribute and to kind of mitigate the losses of the barcobs and the kichucks, they need to find their footing a little bit more because you can't expect. I mean, granted, we've been waiting for guys like Lundell and Samiskevich to take that next step to turn that corner. So maybe they're doing that now, and if all the other guys start to catch up,

then everything will start to fall in a place for the Panthers. But right now, a little disjointed. After scoring 11 goals in the first three games of the season, and the Panthers went out on the road and scored only four. in the first four games of that road trip and then in Cluen again shot out by Buffalo. Just not good. The Panthers have scored

seven in the last two games. They are now four, five, and zero. Third place in the Atlantic Division. Now, saw that Sam Bennett made, he actually had more shots on goal last night than really he's

had all season. Now, Bennett, I mean, the first couple of games I thought he hit his shot overs when we were kind of tracking that for, you reasons of yeah because we like to lose money but no that's the thing

like that's second line like that's the way because like wherever Marchand is gone that has ignited that group like at the beginning of the season it was Marchand with Bennett and Verhege now it's Marshan back with Lundell and Luce Drennan

but it's that Bennett line if Marshan's not on it whether it's Reinhardt there Verhagi or Rodriguez whoever they're putting up Samiskev is getting that time in the top six now but they need to get that guy going

because we, as we know, and as we saw in the playoffs, when Sam Bennett is firing on all cylinders, it is really good for the Panthers. Sam Bennett is tied for worst in the league in plus minus. He is at minus 9. That's insane. Yeah, that's not good. That is not good.

But it's only, what, the knife game of the regular season. Yeah. That's bound to get fixed. So, yep, that's the weekend of the Panthers. It's not been good. They play Vegas tomorrow. Tough. Vegas has won four in a row, man.

Yeah, so hopefully the Panthers get back on track. They've scored 20 goals in those four games. Great. All right. For Kristen, for Danny GQ for Gino and Jason, that is David Jork. My name is Roy Balmy. I'd like to thank Johnny Lazarus for joining us today. This is the hockey show.

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