The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Hockey Show: HOCKEY IS BACK!

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

The NHL season has returned and Roy, David and Ethan are here to recap the first few nights of games and break down some of the big time contract extensions signed around the league before the season started. In wins and fails, the Oilers fell apart behind Stuart Skinner, the Sharks gave one up in epic fashion against the Golden Knights, and Zdeno Chara is getting his jersey retired in Boston. Plus, Cawlidge Hawkey expert and ESPN legend, John Buccigross, joins the show to tell us the impact Gavin McKenna's arrival at Penn State will have on youth hockey in the United States and Canada, the biggest headlines around college hockey this season, and discuss some of the hot topics around the NHL. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Connor McDavid has signed and will stay in Edmonton for two more years. And his contract, a bunch of big contracts that have been signed already are team friendly. We'll talk about that because the regular season has started. This is a hockey show. David Droger, the hockey news is to my left. Ethan Podowski is in the other side of the studio, and Rose is not here. This is the hockey show.

You can watch us on YouTube. We got our own YouTube page. You can follow us there at The Hockey Show DLS. We have TikTok at the Hockey Show 7 and X, Instagram, and threads at Hockey Show DLS. Now, the NHL regular season has started, and you know how we know that the NHL regular season has started? Because we were at the first game? No. It wasn't because the Panthers raised a banner either.

It was because it was a category on Jeopardy. Followed by hockey. Hockey for six, please. In 2025, longtime Bruin Brad Marchand left Boston, headed for the Sunny South and helped this team win a second straight Stanley Cup. I know this one. Kate. Who are the Florida Panthers? That's it.

I love you. 2.00. Brian Trotier was a legendary master of this play that determines which team will start play with possession of the puck. I know this one. Kate. What is a face off? That's right. Oh, I love you. One theory on the origin of this Canadian insult word is with the losing team's task of spraying water to refresh. I know this one. Hooser? What is a what is? No, it is what is a hoser? Kate, back to your. Ted Jennings. You're not cheeky, bro. For and back precede this verb to mean a ploy. pressure at either end of the ice. To be a 200-foot player, eh?

You got to do both. Yeah, we got one of those. Too many A's. We get two of those. Too many A's. Wow, come on, guys. You could do better than that. Come on, Kate, I expect better.

The NHL has counted blocked shots since 1998. That's great. And Mark Adwar Vlasic at this position is the all-time leader. Kate. What is defender? No. Oh, man. Wait a minute, he is a defender.

No. Brian, not going to try it? Brian, not going to try it? Defendsman in the actual name of that position. See, now you've got to be back in that situation. It's not Defender. It's defenseman. Kate was Rob.

They better have gone back and given her that whatever it was, $1,000. Come on, Defender, defenseman. That's the name of the position, though. She deserves the $1,000. She got it right. Yeah, I think we. And did anybody watching the full show? Did they go back and give her the points?

I need this information. Don't forget, Roy, I'm an ally. This is an all-inclusive term. Defenseman is not an inclusive term. Defender is an inclusive term because we got the PDW. H.L now, right? So you are not an ally. I am an ally. What the fuck are you talking about? Not an ally. Oh, my God. I mean, hockey. It was, hockey was the category, not NHL. So yes, that would be the case in that situation. Even though all the questions. Defense person.

The defense person. All right. Let's begin with the major news that happened this week. Kind of McDavid has extended his contract for two more years, $12.5 million. That is a far cry from Carrillo Caprisoff's 8-year $17 million per. A little bit. Ah, Jesus. I mean, that is a team-friendly deal of all team-friendly deals.

And Big Davis is giving all this room to build around him and quite frankly, it should probably look at a goaltender in my humble opinion. But, yeah, they got the next two years to win a cup.

And if that doesn't happen, he's going. I mean, keeping his AV at 12.5, I've given you Euler some runway. Look, if anybody has an idea of how to make this situation work, other than the team that's made it work, the Florida Panthers, it's the Oilers, because they've lost to the Panthers, back-to-back years, and they've watched Florida not only crush them,

but then build a better team year after year. So good on McDavid. I don't know if Stan Bowman is a Bill Zito. You know, we'll see how that goes, but there's a chance in Edmonton. As he said, their long nightmare is it's. It's not over, it's just kind of chilling for now. I just think it's interesting that the Oilers have decided with the greatest bargain in NHL history, in sports history, arguably, right?

Getting this player at that number, sticking his number, he didn't increase it at all from his current contract. Like, we'll see what they do going forward, but right now their plan seems to be just run it back with the same team that hasn't been good enough two years in a row to win the Stanley Cup because they're sticking with Stuart Skinner, they extended Matias Hacom, extended Jake Wallman. Like, their big additions have been Andrew Mangapani, who I like is a solid player. Jack Roselvic, how was he still around at the end of Free Agency, like into the first game

of the season? That was crazy to me. He scored 22 goals last year. And then two young forwards in Matthew Savoy and Isaac Howard. Like, we'll see what they do. They have to address the goaltending issue because as we'll see later, like, Stuart Skinner's already coming back to fight that. I hate to say this, but despite all what you just said, he may have just wanted to

the GM of the Year Award just based on one signing. We'll see how things go. But I think what we're really going to be judging Bowman on is what he does after the season, the next couple of years. Just looking at, there's going to have a lot of money to spend. Henrique, Roslavik, Casperi Kappan,

both goaltenders, all off the books after this season. But they're going to have, you know, McDavid, Drysidle, Hyman, R&H, all those guys are going to be locked up. They got their defensemen. They love their D. Like, you know, for love them, or hate them. They do like them in Edmonton. So what Bowman does over the next few years,

whether Edmonton has the kind of success that they're looking for, and really it's Stanley Cup or bust, it's not a half of now. Well, judging off the first game and we'll get into that a little bit. Ha! Yeah. Just a ha ha ha, ha, and a meh on that situation. There's a couple things I want to say here. First of all, they'll have 17 points, they're projected to have $17.7 million. There's already reports that the cap could be going even higher than the 104 that people have projected for it this year. Some are saying a number like 107. and so they'll have money to spend. Look, if the Oilers didn't put themselves in a position

where they're paying two defensemen $19.75 million, they probably wouldn't have forced Connor McDavid into a situation where he had to take this kind of bargain. But credit to McDavid for doing it, the second thing I want to say is segueing off of that is leave everybody else alone. Like his contract has nothing to do with Eichol, with Connor, with Caprizov. This guy is built different clearly.

he had one goal in mind. He wants to win a Stanley Cup. He clearly doesn't care how much money he's making. He says, I'm making this much money and it's working for me right now. I don't need any more than that. Leave everybody else out of it. That doesn't mean that any player should get paid less than Connor McDavid just because McDavid took this number because of his situation. Caprizov made 17 because the Wild had to pay him 17 and the Wild have said we have no problem paying him 17 because we had to keep this player. Leave him alone. It doesn't mean he's a bad guy. It doesn't mean he's a bad guy. It doesn't mean he's a bad. bad teammate just means that he got his value from his team drew every last cent he could and that's fine we should reward players for doing that the nchel for so long has like tried to stop players from getting what they're worth and not rewarded players for drawing every last cent they can't have their teams they should they should draw every last cent out of their value that they can caprizov did that and i think he deserves credit and other people in the nchel should take after him rather than trying to be like a team friendly guy i'm gonna go ahead and have to disagree with you on that one.

Like, I'm not saying that we shouldn't give, like, if you want to go after your money, by all means, you do you, boo-boo. Some people want to win over increasing their wallet. And I think McDavid, and this isn't an indictment on anybody, but I'm not saying you can't just say, well, this guy wanted to go after as much money as possible and not leave anything left for his team, okay, then the playoffs are going to roll around and they're going to not get knocked out in the first or second round. But it's not like the wild don't have a really, like they still have a good cap situation.

and they have the rest of their team locked up at good numbers. They could sign two or three players. Matt Boldies at a good number. For that they still have a lot of cap that they can use to go out and get better players. And their owner said they're going to be aggressive. Bill Guerin has said they're going to be aggressive in trying to improve their team around Caprizov. I don't see a problem with it. Hockey to me seems like the only sport were recriticized guys for getting every last dollar.

It's this weird hockey thing. I don't really understand it. People are very critical of Caprizov because he's not a team player. No, he just got what the Wild offered him, and he should have. He's worth that money to that franchise, and he should have gotten his value off of that. They're critical in this time, in this sense, because right now the Panthers have created this situation, this aura, where it's not only acceptable, but it's a proven winning tactic that you can build a hell of a team that's going to be competitive that's scaring the rest of the lead for years to come. So on one hand, you have the Panthers doing that. and on the other hand, you have Caprizov taking $17 million.

You could argue that both are right, both are wrong. I'm just saying, I'm not ready to just not give these guys any, you know, just give them a pass when they could absolutely take a couple million less. Your team could be a lot deeper, and you can win. They don't have to, but, you know, I think giving them a pass is, I'm not doing it. The Wild have 15 and a half, well, are projected to have $15.489 million in cap space next year. That's plenty of money to go out and make your team better. like you can get and and they've got a lot of these guys locked up already on team friendly deals like they had the room they felt like they could do this i don't think we should criticize caprisov forgetting what he's worth he's worth that money to the wild and he got it i don't i don't really i understand look i understand that there are some guys that are built differently and mac david is clearly built differently but i just think it's just you know it's just a tired way of thinking in my opinion all right this leads us into the other team friendly contract that was signed this one out of Vegas jack ikel eight years

contract extension 13.5 million per year. That is definitely I mean, again, we look at the Caprisoft contract. Far Cryf between these two contracts that was just signed. Like, we thought this was going to be the comparable and it was going to be market changing

and it's not. And in this situation, they just took, what, the third, fourth best two-way player in the league and locked them up. That's just, that's ridiculous. Can I ask you guys a question? Is Austin Matthews better than Jack Eichel?

Defensively? No, just all-around player. That's a player. They're very different players. But Matthews has been a Selky finalist. Has he not? I think he was two years ago. He may have been.

It wouldn't surprise me. But just in general, when you think, when you're ranking the NHL players, who comes first? Austin Matthews or Jack Eichol? I mean, if you look at pure goal scores, you can go with Austin Matthews in this situation. I think if I'm looking, it depends on the team. So is his offensive value, the difference in offensive value, to make up for the fact that Ikel is a better two-way player, let's say. Like, who would you rather have?

Personally, I'd rather have Ikel. Okay, you'd rather. In the playoffs, I would rather have Iql. So Ikel is only making $250,000 more dollars than Austin Matthews. So why are we looking at Ikel as a team-friendly deal, but not necessarily looking at Matthews-friendly deal. Like, I think I-Cle's deal was signed several years before Ikel's deal when the cap was a lot lower and it was a bigger piece of pie.

That's fair. That's fair. Yeah, it's different economics right now as opposed to back then. You had a what-if game on Patrick Kane that you talked about last night. It just kind of popped in my head as I was watching Showtime score goals for Detroit. And he's been a pretty good ad for them since he decided to let himself be traded there. But if you remember, it was between Detroit and Florida at that time. So I was just thinking, if Florida had gotten Patrick Kane, which was the year that they won their first Stanley Cup,

it wouldn't have gotten Vladimir Teresanko. They probably would have continued on and won the cup either way, I would think. But how would it have played out? Because Kane signed, he stayed with Detroit. Would he have stayed with Florida? Florida definitely wouldn't have gotten Brad Marshon, if that was the case. Maybe not have gotten Seth Jones. It's just so many different pieces that kind of would have played out.

Right? And thinking about how the Panthers have evolved since that time, just all the moves that they've made in the last 18 months, how much would that have changed? Would Kane have taken a team-friendly deal? It's just so many things to wonder about. If Kane was on this team last year, do they beat the Maple Leafs? they don't have they wouldn't have had brad Marshion they don't have

Marshon or Jones now let's see Kane remember Teresenko came and then he got paid by the Red Wings and left doesn't the same thing happen to Kane like the Panthers had a lot less cap space that you know going into last off season like to be fair like Kane did only signed for three million over two years I think so I probably the fit like Kane's a veteran guy he's won cups like I think he would have been fine with Florida's two-way styles but it's just like an interesting It would have been so sick. It would have been fun to see him in a panther show.

I would have loved that. I loved Patty Kane growing up. Are you kidding me? New jerseys have been announced in the NHL, and they belong to the Pittsburgh Penguins and the Detroit Red Wings and the Penguins. Now, my personal feelings aside about the team, these suck, Dave. These absolutely suck. And our friend Alex Baumgartner from Five Reason Sports has an opinion.

Ban yellow jerseys. Yeah. Yellow ice is not a good combination. Yellow jerseys on the ice, not really that good. Like, they've made it work a little bit in Nashville. But Pittsburgh's jerseys, like, on the rack, they look suspect. On the ice, it's just like a bunch of, like, highlighter guys, like a bunch of like the wacky waving, inflatable, unflailing tube men just, like, rubbing around the ice.

I didn't like it at all. So let's describe these jerseys that they unveiled. They're yellow. Normally the Penguins logo, they have, you know, the triangle behind the penguin. And that triangle is yellow. That's not there because. The jersey's yellow. I kind of like it.

Of course you do. I just, you know what? Look, I like is I like the yellow helmet on the black jersey. That looks cool. The yellow on yellow helmet on the black jersey is a good one. It's awesome. The yellow on yellow, no me gusta. The Red Wings have also unveiled their centennial uniforms. They did this about a month ago.

Dave, you finally got to see them in action and you loved them. These are nice. Look at John Gibson with the leather-looking pads. And like all the players had the leather old-time looking glibly. gloves. Like, this is a great look. I love the spoked wheel. Like, it's got some more intricacies and details inside the logo. This is the opposite of the penguins. I love these red wings. Really bring out the fetters in the, uh, the ring portion. And they've got the mini stripes on them. It might be the best logo in sports. Are they wearing these for all

of their home games? Like, this is their permanent home uniform? Or is it? I don't. I don't believe so, no. No, they're not going to wear that the entire. That logo, that logo might be the best logo in sports. I'm telling you. Yeah. So they are celebrating the 100 season as are the New York Rangers and the Chicago Blackhawks. So yeah, they got good jerseys. They look very nice. These are their centennial season uniforms, according to the story I'm reading right now. So I think they're going to wear these a lot this year.

We appreciate everybody who watches and listens to the show. And you guys can ask us questions. You can leave us comments and we will answer them. You can leave them on all the social media outlets that I have described earlier in the show. We have a question again this week from at Demon Hunt. Hunter, M-O-G, what overreaction to the first games of the season do you feel valid?

Hmm. Overreactions to the first games of the season. Well, now keep in mind, the all is blew that lead, and we will talk about that in a second to the Kings, and that was not good. The Boston Bruins are 2-0 to start the season. So are the Penguins.

So the Penguins, yeah. So those two, like, are very, very surprising to me. So, yeah, that's an overreaction from Probably the cities of Boston, Pittsburgh. I know. My overreaction is the Ottawa senators are going to be better than we give them credit for. Really? Yeah, the way that they came back on Tampa Bay last night in Tampa.

So they're going to go behind 94. This is a team that's just, they went to the playoffs last year. They've been building toward it for a few years. They've got one of the best leaders in the world in Brady-Cochuk. I was a little bullish on them before the season, but now, like, just game one out of the gate, they show like that kind of playoff guts right out of right off the bat and i like ottawa we're talking about division here i think top three division is in play for ottawa i think they're going to be really good i really like their roster i think they improved from last year and they were already

like they really we forget they really took control of the top wild card spot last year like they left no doubt my overreaction so far has been i think the panther's going to have to win a lot of two one gitchie comes back two one three two these tight games two one both games I know that's their game. I know they love 2-1 Filthy, so they're more than capable of doing it, but I just think they're going to have to. It doesn't look like,

I know it's the first two games, and they're just the first two games, it's the fact that they played Chicago and Philadelphia. Tomorrow is going to be the big test against Ottawa. For sure, for sure. It'll be interesting to see them against Ottawa. I'm really excited about that game. I just think it looks a little bit like

they're missing a little bit of dynamicism on offense, which is to be expected when you don't have. Alexander Barkov and Matthew Kachuk, but it's a slight overreaction. We'll see how it plays the out, but look, I think they're going to still be really good. They have dominated both of these games so far. Wins and fails in the week is presented by Yeager Meister. Serve it cold

or don't serve it at all. Yeager Meister, damn, that's code. For more, log on there, Yeagermeister.com, please drink responsibly. What's your win of the week, Dave? My win of the week, we go out to I was going to say go out to L.A. but it's an L.A. player. We go out to Vegas. Quentin Byfield scored a gorgeous breakaway goal against the Golden Knights on opening night in Vegas.

They interviewed him, the TNT crew interviewed him after the game, and they were asking him about this goal, and who does he give the credit to? Well, the great one. And you get to sit there, and you get to hear Wayne Gretzky talk about your game. We have some video of you smiling right there. I mean, it's got to be a Pidgeby-type moment, huh?

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. You know, I'm just sitting here, you know, listening to that, and, you know, obviously before, I was, you know, got the opportunity to shake his hand, and, you know, that's what kind of gave me the touch on the breakaway there in the past, so he passed the along a little bit, gave you something special in the night, so thank you for that. There we go. Well, that's how young he is. I was really bad at breakaways. He doesn't know that. Don't tell anybody. Oh, no.

So that's how it works. Like, Wayne Grethee shakes your hand, and suddenly you've got, like, hockey, magic because if that's the case, I'm going to go and hump Roberto Luongo's leg the next time I see him and just see if I can take some of his hockey magic onto the ice. I'm going to go, what other goalies are in town? It's shake Rob Talas's

hand. Yeah. See if Sergei Barabsti gives me a pat on the back. If this is something that's like a physical rubbing off of, the hockey skill, I've got to reevaluate all of my interactions with every goalie that I've ever met. Well, we saw him last night. You could have done that. I got to do it when I'm not going to get

kicked out of the press box. I got to ask Rose for her tips on how to, like, sneakily get upside the pro guys that she likes. She's done a good job, like, between Barkie and Acky. She's had some sneaky-ed pictures last year. This week's win of the week for me comes from the city of Boston, and, yeah, I'm sorry. Surprised me, too.

Right? Because... Traderous. How is it? Traderous. So, the Bruins surprised Zadano Chara, who has a new gig with them as quote-unquote mentor. And this is what they said to him. Actually, Ziam full of crap.

The reason we're here, you see between 24 and 77, retired number banners, oh, that's where 33 is going to go this year. Oh, my God. That's so cool. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. Thank you so much. Wow, what an honor.

So 24, I believe, is Cam Neely and 77, is Ray Bork. Between those two numbers, it's an antichotry. He's getting his number retired at TD Garden. He is going up in the rafters and is well-deserved. I'm surprised you didn't realize 24 is the Tasmanian devil. Oh, my bad. Terry O'Reilly. Oh, my goodness.

Terry, oh, boy, that is. Man, I'm telling you right now, like, back in those days between the Bruins and the Flyers, like, it looked like the preseason game between the Lightning and Panthers every single game. That was normal. Yeah, that was fun, though. Old time hockey. Yeah, old-time hockey. Old-time hockey was people getting concussed, and they loved it.

I don't know. But, yeah, that was the situation there. And good on Zedana. That is cool, though. The captain is getting his number retired. That's... I was going to say that, the rafters at TD Garden surprised me last year, just for the lack of Stanley. Because it's spilled.

Oh, the lack of Stanley Cups? Well, because the Bruins, the Celtics have won a million championships. The Bruins and the Celtics have, you know, so many retired numbers and so many things that they're celebrating. I just, it didn't dawn on me that the Bruins had. not won that many Stanley Cups, you know, original six and, you know, Boston beats the crap out of Florida all the time until recently. Montreal kind of, yeah, yeah, kind of hogged all of them. Anyway, sorry, Ethan. I was going to say, no, I was going to say, Dave, that when I went to Montreal, I was blown away at the rafters in Central Bell. It was unbelievable. It's the Bell.

No, it's Centra Bell. The amount of banners up in that arena are unbelievable, dude. Unbelievable. I mean, two Canada's, by the way, Roy. Two canada is one central bell and battle center It was just crazy It was just crazy seeing the amount of Stanley Cup banners and retired numbers Okay my win of the week Of course I was at the home opener on Thursday It was a great time

It was a family affair My grandma even decided to come out to the game And I was very surprised But she got this awesome picture with Stanley of the Panther Stanley of the Panther grabbing onto Lolo's hand Lolo I know you're watching She even turned to me and she said Ethan You know this could be your win of the week this week

And I was like you know what Lolo that is a perfect idea for the win of the week. Bring some joy to the show. So Lolo, I know you're watching. You're our biggest fan. Thank you for watching us always. And it was great. It was great bringing out the whole family to the Panthers.

And Panthers got a big one we'll talk about later. Wow. Your grandma's like 45 years old. No, my grandma is not 45 years old. But it was, we got her a first game pin, even though she had been to a game at the old arena. Yeah. And she told me a story that she went on a date when she was younger to a Stanley Cup final game in Chicago for the Blackhawks.

I don't know what year it was. It would have been like 1950-something. But not to throw a low under the bus. That's what she told me. She told me she was trying to figure out the year. She was like 58, 59, I don't know. 92. We'll have to figure out the year and get the story.

Oh, my good God. All right, Dave, what you fell? I think Ethan just, that would be my, no, all right. There you go. My fail of the week is, I think everybody had this on their brain. card. Multiple. Multiple this week.

Yeah. Didn't take long for the Oilers and Stuart Skinner to have a face-pom moment opening night. Oilers had a three-nothing lead

at home against their arch rivals and holy canoli, did they blow that lead in a hurry? That was the game-tying goal.

Stewart Stinner had a puck dumped in on him. He played it. He had it right on this and then he just seemed to freeze like his video game controller lost the batteries

or something. And then he tried to sweep it into the corner, but way too late. It was already between his legs into the net. I'm sure Connor McDavid is just sitting on the bench, shaking his head, thinking about the money he left on the table, thinking about Stuart Skinner's contract, going away in a few months. And, oh, my God, it's just, I want to root for Stuart Skinner. He's an Edmonton guy. He's playing for his hometown team. Like, I want that to work, but it's not working.

It's not working. Golly's playing the puck this week has not been good. No, dude, every time I see it, keep your asses in the crease. Just do what I do. Just because we can. Doesn't mean we should. Stop the puck behind the net. Leave it for your defensemen.

Don't need to get pretty. Just chill. My fail this week happened during the last game. I mentioned this before. This happened during the last preseason game of the season for the Panthers and Lightning. They got together. And I'm not even going to talk about, well, I am going to talk about the penalties because this was technically a penalty. Send those other penalties aside.

There was a fail of communication between the reps and the teams themselves. All right. This is the time span. a lot of work on this, by the way. I just want to give the audience a little bit of reference. You got your calculator out. You had your green, visor tilted thing out. Like, you went to work to get these numbers. So it just...

Yeah, because there was it, like, I mean, the official score sheet was bad. There was just bad locking up of all the penalty times. It was bad. So Nico Mikula was issued a game misconduct at 401 into the third

period, right? So at 525, Pontes Holmberg slashed Nico Mikula, give him the Panthers of powerplay. I repeat, Nico Mikula, who drew a penalty, who was supposed to be in the locker room because he was issued a game misconduct, drew a penalty about a minute 20 later, right?

That's what happened. He was supposed to be ejected in the locker room. At 852 of the third period, during a major power play that was caused by Oliver Borkstrand, that was the head shot, Mackie Samiskevich. Niko Mika got an assist on Yesper-Bokris' powerplay goal.

I repeat again, Ecomicola, who was issued the game as conduct, and a couple of minutes later, drew a penalty, earned an assist on Yesper Bocris' goal. That should not have happened.

At 1455 of the third period, the referees finally noticed that the Panthers were playing an in an eligible player and ushered Niko Mikaela off the ice and gave the Panthers a penalty. So for 10 minutes and 54 seconds, the Panthers were playing with an eligible player.

Now, keep in mind, yes, but Bocryst's goal was stripped. They had eight goals, it was seven to end the game. Yeah. So, yeah, there's that. So the referees were in preseason as well. Give the refs a break, okay? It's not like Mekola is the biggest guy on the ice or anything. It's not like he's like seven foot five.

on skates or anything like that. So obviously he could get lost in the shuffle a little bit. Ethan, you fail? My fail the week comes from last night. This might be the craziest thing. The dumbest way to lose a game we'll see all year. Roll the tape. So the sharks are up 3-2 with 152 left in the third period.

They barely miss an empty net with a sick defensive play from the Vegas Golden Knights. I don't know how they kept this out. The Golden Knights go the other way. Here comes Jack Eichol lugging it up the ice. He's going to shoot it in from the red line. It's going to bounce, bounce, bounce, take a weird bounce, and go in. So the game is tied with a minute 34 left, and we're going to overtime. Alex Nadelcovich, oh boy.

Now, here's what happens in overtime. There's a loose puck. Nadelcovich comes out of his net to play it, just totally whiffs on it, goes right by him. Theodore up to Riley Smith, taps it in, easy. Game over, good night, go home, San Jose. This is the most shark's way to lose a game. And I know, David, you're all excited about the sharkies, and I'm all excited about the sharkies. too. But Los Ziburonis, that is a rough start to the year, man. And it's just a sign that,

hey, I know they're young, they're exciting, they're going to be fun, they're going to be really bad. The Sharks were going to win that game. They were going to beat the Golden Knights at home on their opening night, if not for Alex Nadelcovic totally flubbing two different plays late in that game. I'm still high on the Sharks. Where's off Scaroff? He's watching on the bench I guess. Our player of the week this week is Frank Lazaro, the Chicago Blackhawks. He was very noticeable during the Blackhawks lost to the Florida Panthers. He had a goal in assist. And he also played well in the next game. So he, by the way, had the highest bump of any player in the league. He went from $950,000 to $6.6 million. So look out

for Nizal to have a good year in Chicago. It's a hell of a race. Probably going to end up being the second option. Or maybe even the first option. Yeah, I was, go ahead, Dave, sorry. No, it's no knock on Bedard, but Nazar looks good. I was more impressed with him coming away from that game than I was with Baderd, and I was very impressed with Badaard, let's be clear. He got an invite to the U.S. Olympic camp this summer.

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Because it seems like the next big thing in this sport, Gavin McKenna, has started in, Penn State. He is good to go right now. He's already played two games against Arizona State. Penn State swept that series. Fifty-seven NHL Scouts showed up to his first game where he had to assist. In the second game, he scored the game-winning goal. And in my opinion, the real winner here is Penn State graduate Emily Kaplan. Good for her. But right now, the hype has Gavin McKenna winning the Hobie Baker, possibly the national championship. and potentially the number one overall pick in the NHO draft.

Am I right, Bucci? Colder, too. Well, you know, he's a young fella. It's hard for young players like him, you know, 17 years old, to score in college hockey. These are men he's playing against 23, 24-year-olds, 22-year-olds, and it won't be easy. So I would probably say no on the hobby.

I think there's going to be older, more experienced players who could have bigger years. Now, that being said, after maybe 10, 15 games, and he starts figuring out where he needs to be and how it's going to work in college as opposed to junior where he came from, maybe he'll start to go on these heaters, like these six, seven-point weekend heaters,

where he's really going to start to ball up, win the scoring race, and have enough goals, you know, 25 to 30. That's a lot of goals in college hockey for anybody, but especially a teenager. We saw Macklin Celebrity do it, and that's why many of us thought, he was the real deal.

But that goal there in Arizona State, they were giving it to him. They were chanting overrated, overrated, all game. That's why he slapped the glass and did the forks down. But you're watching me, he reminds me of Kuturoff. As a winger on that off side, he can set people off, just his brain's unbelievable. Then he has a finish like this that if he needs to,

I mean, that's an incredible roof job, didn't have a big back swing. Pass was in his feet. So, yeah, a massive talent, expected to be the first pick of the draft, but it's hard to score in college hockey. That's his only goal now through three games. They played last night.

Sneaky Thursday game, and they lost the Clarkson. I think he had just one assist. So, you know, a bit of a slow start. One goal in three games. He says, that's not going to come out and light it up like he did in the Western League in Canada playing against all teenagers. You know, it's a little tougher in college hockey. The Big Ten starting to creep up here soon.

And like I said, Clarkson is one of those teams. They're filled with guys who are 22, 23 years old. Those are the kind of teams that will give him and Penn State skill teams an issue. They're almost like an American Hockey League team, like a decent HL team when you play those kinds of schools who are those older players. Bucci, what is the impact of this kind of prospect coming to the college ranks going to be? Obviously, it's different now and now. You can bounce between the CHL and college hockey. So he looks like he's having a ton of fun out there.

He's throwing the forks down at Arizona State. Like, he's fired up. He's excited to play in front of Penn State's student section in Happy Valley. So what do you see the impact of this all being? Yeah, you're right. Just for maybe the listeners who weren't aware in the old days, which is last year and before, once you commuted to Canadian Junior, once you committed to that, you could no longer play college hockey. Once you played a Canadian junior game or whatever, then you couldn't play college hockey.

You were done. And so if you wanted to play college hockey, but weren't ready yet, then you go to the USHL and play American junior hockey. Then you could play that junior hockey and then still play college hockey. So now, like you said, it's a Wild West. And there really has never been this much sizzle in the college hockey world because what McKenna did, coming to Penn State, taking allegedly $700,000 to play this year. And now I assume he's going to, and you're right, his Canadian buddy.

back home, we'll be watching these games on TV, seeing him do that, getting a taste of American college rivalries, the campus life. These programs have facilities that rival the NHL. Some are better, like the Penn State facilities are better than the Ottawa Senators in terms of weight room and cold plunge and everything. It's just unbelievable. The arms work. Yes. Yeah, they're working on it now in Carolina. They're I was there last night, and they're trying to get their arena up to date. So, yeah, I think we'll see, but I think it will result in more kids like him coming down here for at least a year, give it a shot. It's a great way to come down here, make almost an AHL salary, a half a million to 700.

And that's going to be rare. It's only a few guys going to get that much. And then, see what, you know, and then from there, your draft year comes up, and then you get drafted. And if you want, you come back for one more year if you're not ready. or just go right to the NHL and maybe dictate those terms. I was to say, before we move on, I had one more question on McKenna, John, and you might be the best equipped to answer this. Like, we've seen recent years, Lane Hudson, Celebrini, Cole Cawfield.

I've seen some really good players come out of NCAA and go to the NHL. But Gavin McKenna just feels like he's just on another level. Like, am I right here in thinking that even though the guys I just named, they're all spectacular, they're young superstars. But McKenna, I feel like it's almost like we're looking at like a McDavid coming into the league. Maybe. I think Celebrini's close. Like you said, those other guys are maybe a notch down, the Hudson

Caulfield. You know, Celebrini, again, he was 17 his entire college year that he was awesome in. He was 18 last year, his entire first year in the league, really good. He's going to be 19. He's a June birthday. So he's going to be 19 all this

year wearing an A for some of the games. They picked six of them. Three in the road, three at home. So he's He's yet to play against kids younger than him in his life. When that starts happening in a couple of years, it reminds me of Jack Eichael. Eichael always played up, always played up, always played up,

showed up at BU at 17 years old, always playing older. Now Jack Gagall is starting to play against people who are younger than him or the same age, and we see now he's really starting to pop. So we'll see about McKenna. I haven't seen him up close. I love covering college hockey. I get to meet these guys in their T-shirt and shorts.

and okay, how can they take the rigors of an NHL season? How are they built? You know, Celebrini was like 185, 190 when he came in the league. So he was ready to go. Some of these guys are slighter and skinnier. It may take a couple years. So I really haven't met him. I'm curious, see how his game develops at Penn State.

He's playing the wing. Celebrini showed up and played center right away for BU. And so for now, they're starting McKenna on the wing. And maybe in the end, that's what he's going to be, like I said, like a Kucherov, just an amazing, almost a center-like guy on the wing. Patrick Kane, Nikita Kutrov, those kinds of guys, almost a Reinhardt with the Panthers as a result. But we'll see. We'll see if he's at that level or not. One more question about the college ranks before we move on to the league.

What are you looking at as far as storylines are concerned, and who do you think will potentially win a national championship? Yeah, I think it's all the biggest storyline again is all these guys who got drafted and now played junior in Canada and can now play college hockey. You know, Clayton Lindstrom on Michigan State, he was Columbus's first round pick, and then he got injured, played junior last year, end up on McKenna's team, and now he's at Michigan State. And, of course, the Flyers' first round pick, Martone's on Michigan State as well. Of course, we talked about McKenna at Penn State. So that's the big storyline right now. The NIL, the money, and now the opening up to allow Canadian juniors to come down and get the best of those best. And then the ongoing ramifications.

What does that mean for the USHL? is that's going to be bad for that league. So how do they survive? How these Canadian junior, how does the Western League survive when kids are coming to play college hockey? So how do they figure that stuff out is the big one? And in terms of who are the favorites, you know, you would think these guys, again,

it might take some time for these high-level players who now are playing college hockey to get going. But as long as their teams get in the tournament, then, you know, Penn State is certainly, they would have been good anyway. They made the Frozen Four last year for the first time. They add McKenna, being a lot of people back. I still think it's, you know, Penn State, Michigan State, I think is really a strong team.

Trey Augustine, the future Red Wing goalie came back again. They have lots of talent up front. So I still like them as well. And then as far as the third team, you know, Boston University still has future NHLers as well. Cody Ider's, Eisenman, you know, Cole Hudson, Lane Hudson's brother is having a college career similar to Lane. So we'll throw BU in there. And then one more, you know, one kind of Cinderella. Quinnipeak looks like Quinnipiac again.

They know how to win the ECAC regular season. They know how to win NCAA tournament games. So give me a Las Vegas frozen four of three big brand names of Michigan State and Penn State and Boston University and throw a Quinnipiac in there. We got a party. Nice. All right. On to the national.

We saw the emotional return of John's and Taze. He signed with the Jets in the offseason. He returned to his hometown. He had 19 shifts. About 18 and a half minute. played three shot attempts. One of them reached the net. He took a penalty.

He drew a penalty and he undressed the referee. He also won seven of eight face-offs. How do you think he looked in the game? Yeah, that's good. He was a little question coming in. He was a little nicked up after camp. You know, hasn't really played hockey for a while. Even just doing basic battle drills, he probably was sore

and could get maybe, you know, injured a little bit. It's been a while. So, you know, Winnipeg's in trouble. Nikolai Eilers, I saw him play last night. It was a great ad by Carolina. He's just a really good player. you know he's gone and we'll see how they are down the middle

you got a wonder if Taze can really go through the rigors of an HL season after having all that time off and they're relying on him like they kind of need them to produce and play well so it's going to be interesting to watch in Winnipeg if they're going to be able that central division the Western

Conference is a gauntlet and it's going to be very difficult you look at that central division with Colorado and Dallas and of course Winnipeg and Minnesota is doing all they can to keep up, keeping Caprize off. So all it takes is one little, you know, slip up, one little, you know, part of your season that you're just not performing.

Then suddenly you're like a 93-point team and boom, you're out. So it's going to be tough on Winnipeg. They're going to lean on him a lot. So there's some pressure on Taves as well besides, you know, just celebrating his return to the game. As well with the Jets, they also extended Calcona's eight-year extension at 12 million dollars per season, another team-friendly deal. Now, Carrillo Caprizov, we thought that that was going to change the market entirely.

Right. And then kind of McDavid happened. So what do you think is going on with these deals now? Everybody seems to be taking team-friendly deals. Yeah, that's just, that's kind of the hockey player mentality, isn't it? Because you know, because of the hard cap, you know, the more you get, it does, it hurts your team. the players probably should not be put in this position. At some point, they should probably get a waiver for one guy, a team,

where you can go over the cap, whether you slot him at an average of like 12, and if you give him 20, he still counts as 12, you know, try to figure out something. Kind of a franchise player. I love that idea. It's the old Larry Bird Rule, right, in the NBA, when they call it the Bird Rule back in the day

where you could re-sign your own guy as much as you want, didn't really count against the cap, per se, again. But like in this situation, if he just take the highest average, make it, you get one $12 million, give one guy gets, it doesn't matter how much, but you caught him at 12. He's not going to just make it nothing. But you kind of 12, then whatever more he gets than he gets. And you only count 12 because you really put these superstars in a tough position.

You know, Jack Geichel probably should have got 15 if Caprizov got 17. He actually should make more than Caprizzav. Jack Geckle is a better player, mainly because he's a center and they're just so more valuable. you know and you know sasha barkoff's an 18 million dollar player when he's healthy and so yeah so it it definitely had pushed up some prices like kempa and natius those kinds of guys are going to benefit because they don't have the pressure to take less they can go for as much as they want because these teams are quibling over you know natius and kempi they both want 11 and the teams want probably nine that's probably what you're looking at there and eventually they'll get probably

to about 10-2 or 9-8, whoever they feel like has the leverage. Kepa's going to turn 30, so he probably wants that eight-year. Naitis is 26. You know, he could go four times 10 and hope the cap goes up, bet on himself like he has,

and maybe he can do a four-times 14. You know, so it's going to be interesting to see how these guys play it. So I think it'll help those guys more than the topping because the top-end guy is going to continue to feel pressure to take a little bit less, like Tom Brady or back for all those years in the page, that he did to have a better team around them until it reached the end.

It was like, I got to go cash in a little bit to Tampa. And that's what's happening. So, yeah, they're trying to figure this out. The GMs and the players is a $6 million player necessarily a $9 million player now? Or are the GMs like, well, no, you're still a $6 million. I'll go seven, but I still want the big fish because you need stars to win in this league. Like the Panthers have shown, like you need multiple stars. And some of these teams, like the Kings are just looking for one.

I think Byfield will be that eventually, but, you know, he's still just a 60-point guy. Maybe he will turn out to be, okay, then you go one. Where, again, the Panthers throw, you know, Reinhardt and Kachuk and Barkoff and even the underrated players like Forz Lane, who's really a star, but people look as a star. So, and that's what, so I think it is, it's going to be interesting to see how these GMs, yeah, some people think he's just a guy, but he's actually a star. Not even a Norris trophy candidate, just a guy. A jag, just a jag. Luke Hughes making almost twice as much as Gustav Forrestlingbo. Right, right, exactly, right.

So, John, has Kyle Conner talking about him a little bit here? Has he replaced Sasha Barkov as the most underrated player in the NHL? People talk about him like he's good. Like we talked about Barkoff like he was good. But I don't think people appreciate how transcendent Kyle Connor can be for a hockey game on any given moment. Yeah, I mean, I face it, he's a 40-goal guy. He's electric. He started to score in the postseason.

so he's definitely definitely kind of he's a quiet guy he's you know he's from michigan he likes to hunt and fish like the winnipeg a lot for him it's just he can just you know no one bothers him there's not a lot of pressure he easily could have gone back to detroit and play for the home state team he went to michigan who was a former michigan wolverine definitely if he wanted that to happen the wings would have loved him and he could have made it happen you know whisper whisper the agent whisper whisper whisper to iserman whisper whisper and then you get it done either they trade them or he just plays it out and sign with the Red Wings. He could have done that.

And, you know, most people would have, and back in the day, a lot of people would have back in the day, especially too, because that meant a whole bunch. It still means a lot to play original six, but every generation it means a little less and less. And so, yeah, that's probably a good call in terms of, because Barcault's probably no longer underrated, especially if the Panthers kind of struggle, you know,

and just get into playoffs as like a 95-point team. And with him, out all year. That's, oh, wow, that guy really is, like, a top three player. I guess so. So, interestingly, like, you kind of led me into my next thing, because we're talking a lot about guys taking, you know, what we're calling now team-friendly deals. Like, we're calling, we're calling McDavid, and we're calling Conner, Tile Conner,

team-friendly deals at 12.5. Right. They both. Right. Yeah. They all make more than everybody on the Florida Panthers. And it's not even close. No.

The highest A.A.V. in Florida is 10. And that's Barcov. and that's Bob, and Bob goes away after this year. Look at the deals that Zito assigned guys to in the last few years. None of them are higher than 8.6, and I'm talking about guys that you mentioned, Bennett, Reinhardt, Echblad, Forsling, that guy. Yeah, that guy. So as we're talking about all these team-friendly deals, like team-friendly to who?

Because it's still, the whole point of this is to give some love to the Panthers, but, like, what Zito has done and what he's gotten all these players to do in this culture that they've built here, just as we're seeing these other, quote-unquote, team-friendly deals get signed. It just brings me all back to what's happened here in Florida, Abochy, and how amazing it is that Bill Zito's gotten everybody to buy in. No, for sure. And he just was just ahead.

Because this whole salary cap thing, I mean, they said last year it was coming. And I think they probably might have known even a year and a half ago that, hey, these are the projections. Yet, whether it's, you know, Reinhardt, if someone puts that guaranteed contract in a very dangerous sport, as we know, where anything can happen, you've got to get that first 60, 70 million if you're a player. And sometimes that first 67 million is your second contract where Ikel was the first, McDavid the first. These guys, so that's one reason obviously McDavid could take a little bit less now is because he's already made $80 million. So he's kind of good. But yeah, he was just ahead of the curve, you know, Kachuk coming down to nine. Barkoff was kind of high for that era.

Now, going back, they really obviously respected him and wanted to get that done. And maybe his agents did look into the future a little bit. And that's the same with the hurricanes. You know, they got Ajo and these guys just locked in at $7 million for seven more years. You know, guys are going to make double. So the hurricanes and Panthers have a lot of these guys, like you said. The hurricanes don't have one guy making 10. You know, they're all seven, seven, eight.

And they just locked up Keongre Miller at seven, you know, for eight years. And so, yeah, you're right. The Panthers and Hurricanes are two teams that are going to be good for another seven, eight years, because the cap's going to go up again, go up again, and now they can really be aggressive with free agents. They can make them, you know, they may overwhelm some of these players if they even get to free agency. They don't tend to in the NHL to overwhelm them to get them to come in, like Mitch Marner, you know. But again, for him, 12 was enough. So it is kind of straight.

The Caprizov's 17 number was obviously. probably a little high too quickly. And then the McDavid-12-5 has really messed everything up. It's like total. They don't know what to think now. You know, because one guy took so much less than he should have. The other guy took 17 for a winger.

It's a, so everyone's a little rattled. Like we're rubbing the gloves in the corner, standing eight-count stuff, you know, boxing. It's like, what do we do? So let's take a pause, and that's what Tempe has done, and Naitis hasn't really got.

So I think now they're going to try to figure this out now. And eventually the light bulbs will start to go on, sides and they'll okay this is this is what we're going to do now is a very lewis black type sound effect yeah it was yeah all right so you called allers flames and devil's hurricanes this week for yesp and the allers allowed the kings to come back oh don't remind me despite leon dry sidles 400th goal and also we saw step jarvis and as you mentioned kandre miller both scored two goals respectively in the hurricanes win what were your takeaways from those two games um well i actually had l-a i had l-a colorado

But he had early Colorado. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. I'm good. That was a Canada. That was the Canada broadcast. Yeah, I'm good, but I can't call two games in one day, Roy. Because both those games last time.

But, yeah, last I was really impressed with Chandrae Miller. I mean, when he got traded, I tweeted Carolina wins a trade. Just because I thought he would pop as a 10-goal 40-point defenseman there. That system really helps defensemen under Rod Brindamore. They're so good along the walls in Carolina. And then there's so much space because, The other team is trying to get the puck from them, and it's hard to get the puck from Carolina.

And then these defense teams can just kind of creep in and have all kinds of room, and that's what happened with him. So very impressed by Carolina. Nikolai Eilers is a really good player. When you see him play in person, it's like, wow, this guy's really good. An underrated player for sure. I'm surprised his career high is 64 points. I would think playing with Ajo and Jarvis this year,

he's got a chance to be almost a point per game guy, you know, 70 points at least. Like I said, I was surprised, 64. man, he should have all those years. Looking at play, this guy's a great playmaker. He could skate. He only scores 25, so he's going to need a lot of assists to get to 7. He's going to need a 25-50 year. But maybe he'll get 30 this year, 30-42 or something like that.

But I like that team a lot. The bottom six is really good. All six bottom six guys might score 10 goals this year, you know, which is nice to have. Again, no one makes a lot of money there. But like Edmonton, who you kind of talked about Roy, Carolina, like do they have a goalie. Like, are we kidding with Stuart Skinner? Like, are we kidding? That's your goalie? No. So, you know, the fact, McDavid, one reason why McDavid took 12 and a half was like, because we need a goalie. Go get a goalie. Whatever it takes, we need a goalie. And Freddie Anderson, when healthy,

is actually among very, very good. I don't, elite's a strong word, but like, he's a really good goalie. He's got great numbers. But he just does, he gets hurt. Now, it's the last year of his deal. So he's 36, maybe he doesn't like hockey, doesn't want to play anymore. He's going to play it out and retire. I don't know. You never know if these guys. But if he wants to play for one more contract or one more deal, maybe two-year deal at age 36, then, you know, play 50 games this year, have a great year and lead your team

at least to the Stanley Cup finals, which obviously no team has had better success longer in the NHL right now than the hurricanes. Like I'm talking since Brenda Moore coach, and this is his eighth year. Like, they've been up here, the whole eight years. but they just haven't got to the final. Sometimes I'm a good, gone down a couple of back up or a late start, you know. So it's time for them. But like Edmonton, do they have the goal tending?

And that's so hard to find one. And obviously, Edmonton has tried. They tried it for Jack Campbell. That didn't work after he had a good run there. He collapsed and I was Skinner and Pickard. So I just don't know if they can be taken seriously until they get a goalie. And it's amazing they made back-to-back finals with them. Yeah.

John Bucigras, ESPN. We appreciate you joining us today, John. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for remembering, fellas. Thank you to John Bucigras for joining us here today. Everybody is asking about this jersey that I'm wearing. I'm going to stand up here. So I am wearing a rose-designed the hockey show jersey.

This is a nice little jersey here. Give us a spin. Everybody tell Roy how handsome he looks. I knew I look good. You do look handsome. You do look handsome. Roy. You always do. The metal arc logo there at the bottom of the right where the chest is. Right here. On the collar, that's the middle arc logo.

Right here, as you can see. It's a good collar. Very good design by Rosie. Wade and Williamson, they provided the actual putting together of said jersey. So thank you to them. And we'll probably have some more information about how to get it. Coming soon. Coming soon. So yes. Rosie, good job on the design. I really, really like it. My only input was, you know, the font on the back of the jersey. It has to be some sort of realism here.

It has to look like an actual jersey. And the font in the back of the jersey makes it look like an actual jersey. So, for everybody in the back, Danny B and Jason, no, Jason's down here. Gino is here. Jason is off today. So thank you, Ethan. Thank you, Rosie, and thank you, David. This has been The Hockey Show.

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