The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Hockey Show: Keeping One Eye On Milan

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

It's a Halloween edition of The Hockey Show, and Roy, David, and Ethan are here to recap the week that was in the National Hockey League. The guys discuss the scoring-laden Frozen Frenzy that took pla...ce Tuesday night, the potential Olympic rosters for the United States and Canada, and some major extensions signed around the league this week. David has this weekend's parlay in Puck Luck, and the boys share their wins and fails of the week, including an epic Halloween costume from a Panthers fan, an empty net disaster in the AHL, and Connor Bedard's first career hat trick. Then, 2x Gold Medalist and former captain of Team Canada's women's hockey team, Cassie Campbell-Pascall, joins the show and gives her thoughts on the Panthers' slow start, young stars that could break through onto this year's Olympic rosters, and her experience as an Olympian. Finally, the boys leap into the Panthers Den to recap a light week for the Panthers that featured a resounding win over the Vegas Golden Knights and a shootout loss to the Anaheim Ducks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:02 Visit boostmobile.com to get started. Delivery available for select devices purchased at boostmobile.com. Terms apply. It's Halloween and the Panthers are off to a scary start. Their drunk is a goaltender for the Detroit rent wings. Ethan is a Power Ranger, and Rosie is on a plane on her way to Columbus, Ohio with Lucy. I'm Roy Bellamy.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I did not dress up. Thank you. I need to take this off. He can't breathe in that. I can't breathe in that mask. This is ridiculous. Yeah, this is the hockey show. You can find us on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Please follow us there at The Hockey Show DLS. We got TikTok, The Hockey Show 7, and on X Instagram and threads at Hockey Show DLS. and frenzy was Tuesday. All 32 teams played. That's 16 games, ladies and gentlemen. That has a lot of games. And we saw two hat tricks by Connor Bedard and Victor Oliveson, respectively. Now, I
Starting point is 00:02:10 got some stats here for you. The first goal of the night was scored at 6.14 p.m. Eastern by Morgan Frost. The last goal of the night was scored by Brent Clark at 129 a.m. Eastern. There's 100 goals in total. All the goaltenders collectively had 7169 saves. Nice.
Starting point is 00:02:28 On 8, on 876 shots on goal. You say that with a mask on, how am I going to have a straight face after that? You're not supposed to. Okay, well, there you go. That's why I'm wearing the mask. By my calculations, that would mean that there were two empty net goals on Tuesday. That's it. That's math.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Now, yeah, that's math. Yeah. 44 high danger goals, four of those by Tampa. All the skaters skated a collective 1,464 miles. Four of those miles were skated by Eric Carlson. And it was Jack Alco's birthday, who scored two goals and earned an assist. It was a good day of hockey on Tuesday. Guys, what were your takeaways from Frozen Frenzy?
Starting point is 00:03:09 My takeaway is that you made me place a bet that had me very excited for about 10 minutes. Roy texted me on Frozen Frenzies like, hey, we should do a 16-legged parlay on every game. It did not work. Did not work out very well. No, it was bad. It would have been cool to turn $2 into, what was it, like $13,000? thousand dollars or whatever it was but you know i think for me because i didn't have been in five dollars because that's uh i'm used to doing five dollars i forgot to do two dollars i said two dollars
Starting point is 00:03:38 i said two dollars now forgot already it would have been 93 000 dude yeah it would have been ridiculous what were you what was your takeaway for tuesday i was at the panther game that night so i missed a lot of it but i got home and watched some of the back end of the later games conrador's really good i want i'm i want to talk about him more a little later in my wins and fails of the week, but he's really good. The Blackhawks are exciting. The Wilde are in a bad way right now, man. I was really excited about the Minnesota Wild, and they are struggling hard right now. I think they've lost four straight at home, and they had a good start, and they were scoring a ton of goals, and since the power play goals have dried up, their five-on-five scoring has been
Starting point is 00:04:17 nowhere to be seen. So that's certainly something to watch. But you know who's also really fun is the team the Panthers played that night? We'll talk about it more on the Panthers Den later, the Anaheim Ducks. I really like watching that team play hockey. So it was a great night overall. I think there's a couple of things the ESPN needs to clean up in terms of the broadcast aspect. But, I mean, it's exciting to have 16 games on all throughout the night. And staggered starts is the biggest thing. That's a great thing for the NHL. You mentioned the Blackhawks in the wild looking at the standings in the Central Division. The Blackhawks have 12 points. They're fifth in the division right now, which is very surprising because they're supposed to be dead last.
Starting point is 00:04:51 So that's good for them. But the Wild at nine points, only one in three. games they have three losses in overtime very surprising especially after the uh the contract uh that they levied on capris off so uh yeah build around them i guess right that ideally can they maybe i mean they can they afford to i mean they haven't that great for them either so i think minnesota's probably going to figure it out they have a really good roster and last year they kind of went like really hot in the first half and then struggled in the second half it's still only they've played 11 or 12 games like Like, there's still so much of the season to go, 70 games to go.
Starting point is 00:05:28 But, I mean, you definitely have to be concerned if you're Minnesota because, you know, they're already five point, seven points out of the top three in the division. And we know this division's going to be brutal. And Utah's really improved. And Colorado's always really good. And Winnipeg's always really good. And Dallas is right there. And it's going to be an uphill climb for them to get back into this playoff race, for sure.
Starting point is 00:05:49 A few contracts were signed this week, Logan Cooley signed a eight-year and $80 million. contract extension with Utah. Thomas Hawley signed an eight-year $84.7 million contract with Dallas, and Morton Natchis signed a eight-year extension with the avalanche worth $92 million. What do these signings mean to these clubs respectively? Well, I think they're all looking at them like some playoffs solidifying moves right now. I mean, Utah is off to an amazing start. It's what, the Tusty effect ever since they introduced their new mascot. They've only lost one game, I believe.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And loading and gruelly has been spectacular for them, so obviously they're really happy with getting that. The Nietzsche's deal is something I think we've been expecting for a while. Colorado continues to solidify their depth, and they're looking like they're going to be another great team. And then Dallas, kind of an under-the-radar type move as I keep pumping into the mic with my goalie helmet here. I apologize. Dallas is one of those teams, man, that the last few, stop laughing at me. I'm sorry, it's the neck guard. It's called the dangler.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Thank you. I kind of can't stop laughing at you, David. It's really funny. Fair enough. It's dangling, all right. I love the Thomas Harley signing, just because Dallas. is just a sneaky, good depth team. And his analytics numbers particularly have been pretty good the last couple of seasons.
Starting point is 00:07:01 So I'm excited, man. I'm excited to get to the playoffs, but it's still frigging October. I was listening to what chaos on the way into today, and they were kind of talking about how the stars have done since the Rantanin deal. Now this kind of ends the Rantan saga, right? They locked up Marty Natchez to a deal that I think it's, what, 11.6. So just less than they would have paid Rantanin. I think they did about as well as they could have to make up for that loss.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Like, they have basically decided this guy has replaced Rantanin on Nathan McKinn's line. We love the, you know, the pairing that they are, the chemistry that they have. He's only 26 years old. Like, he can still get better. He's a very good player and he's been super productive for them so far. That line has been on fire. So I think it's a really good signing for them in terms of, okay, we might have messed up, you know, getting rid of Rantanin.
Starting point is 00:07:47 We probably should have kept him around at that $12 million number, but we did about as well as we could to make up for the loss. The NHL.com has posted its roster projections for the Winter Olympics. We're going to focus on Canada and the United States. Let's start with Canada. At Ford, they have Sam Bennett, Anthony Sorelli, Sidney Crosby, Brandon Hegel, Nathan McKinnon, Branden, Branden, Brando Schaund, Mitch Warner, Connor McDavid, Braden Point, Sam Reinhardt, Mark Schifley, Mark Stone, and Nick Zuzuki, as well as Tom Wilson. Mark Stone is injured right now on defense. Drew Dowdy, Thomas Hawley, who just got his contract, Keel McCar, Josh Morrissey,
Starting point is 00:08:31 Coton Perrako, Travis Sandheim, Shane Theodore, and Devin Taze, and Annette, Jordan Bennington, Eden Hill, and Logan Thompson. How do we feel about these projections? I feel there's one name missing that's going to become more and more obvious as the season goes on, and that's Macklin Celebrini. He is playing otherworldly right now, considering how young he is and how amazing he's playing all 200 feet of the ice. So I would be really surprised if he continues that he doesn't find his way onto that roster.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But otherwise, scary. Canada's going to be good. Always. We know where the advantage will rely when we take a look at the Americans and that's in net. What about Connor Bardard, guys? You think he could be a candidate to kind of sneak in the way he's been playing as well? Like, that's the future of your team. Don't you want to bring one of those guys at least so that you can get that Olympic experience out of the way at such a young age?
Starting point is 00:09:20 Know what you're going into when you're going to be a leader. of the team come 20, what would that be, 30, and then 34, right, which we expect the NHL players will continue in the Olympics for the next two at least. Like, you know, I think it would be really smart for team candidate to take either of these guys, and we can talk about a couple of guys the Americans can take on the younger side as well to get them that experience and kind of get them ready to be the leaders of the team down the road. But that's what like the world championships and those tournaments are for is like for getting
Starting point is 00:09:48 these guys, you know, acclimated to the international play and their U.S. teammates or their international teammates and all that. I don't know if you want to go to the Olympics, which is like, you know, the top of the top of the top. That's a good point. And be like trying to usher guys along. Like, maybe, but I feel like whoever they bring to Italy are going to be the people that this is who we're going to win gold with now. Not so much worrying about, you know, four years from now. That's a good point. For the United States at Ford, we had Matt Boldie, Kyle Connor, Jack Eichael, Jake Gensel, Jack Hughes, Clayton Keller, Dylan Larkin, Austin Matthews, J-T-Miller, Patrick Kane, Matthew Nyes, Brady Kachuk, Matthew Kuchuk, and Tage Thompson.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Defense, Brock Fabor, Adam Fox, Norhanifin, Quinn Hughes, Charlie McAvoy, Jake Sanderson, Jacob Slavin, and Zach Wrenski, and Inette, Conahellibuck, Jake Ottinger, Jeremy Swamen. Now, keep in mind, both of the Kachukes of both on the prelim roster, all right? So, these are projections. So what do you think about this projection for the United States? Where's Frank Nazar? That was the same situation I was going to bring up. This is the same situation as McElabini and the celebrini. So maybe they'll look at it some more. Logan Cooley, another, like, there's so much young, I cannot stop hitting this microphone.
Starting point is 00:11:05 There's so much good young talent that's really like blossoming before our eyes so far this season. I'm really excited to see how it plays out. I think U.S. and Canada, it's going to be such a fun. tournament. But I know, like to Ethan's point, like the more I think about it, the more I want to see those young guys, those exciting players, you know, they're going to be full of passion and piss and vintner and all that. That would be fun. So, yeah, I'm coming around. The guy to me that's left off here that should be on is Cole Caulfield. We kind of saw the scoring dry up for the Americans in the four nations, specifically in
Starting point is 00:11:37 the final. He needed a guy that could finish, score a big goal in a big moment. Cole Cawfield just broke the record for most goals, overtime goals by Montreal Canadian a few weeks ago, or a few days ago, excuse me, all he does now is score overtime goals. He's been spectacular start this season, and he was kind of one of those guys right on the edge of the roster last year that missed out that a lot of people were kind of questioning, well, why is Chris Kreider there over, you know, over, I totally just blanked. It was a long night. It was a long night.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Cole Coffield, thank you. One of seven players, by the way, that's leading the NHL with nine goals. Yeah, he's been fantastic. this year. And I think he's going to make himself undeniable at some point this year if he just keeps scoring. They're going to need scoring from their bottom forwards. I know that they're going to want to match up with Canada, and we know
Starting point is 00:12:26 the type of game that Canada is going to try and play in the Olympics. But at some point, you've got to play your game and you've got to bring your best players. It's the Olympics. You've got to bring your best players. And I think that Cole Calfield right now, if you give me four lines of forwards, 12 Americans, I can't put 12 over
Starting point is 00:12:42 Cole Cawfield right now. We were at a watch party last night for Ravens' Dauphin. and the reason why Ethan is so tired is because he showed his nipple. Dude. Why do we have to go there, man? I was in a costume.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I was in a morph suit. Oh, I should fire a picture. I don't have a picture. I was in a more room. I was in a power ranger. You know, it was my costume always when I was a kid. I had a dream a few months ago.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I'm like, I'm going to be a power ranger. And, you know, I didn't think about the feasibility of a morse suit. It's not the most feasible thing for eating, going to the bathroom. You know, you got to do what you got to do, and I had to get my arm free. And there I was, sitting at Flanagan's and West Kendall. Great night, by the way. Thank you to everybody that made it a great night and came and hang out.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Yeah, that is not your fault. That suit was just not. It was a nightmare. It was a nightmare. And I got to wear it tonight again, and I'm dreading it. I'm just like, oh, this is why I don't like Halloween, right? This is a last-minute costume switch. That just seems unfeasible.
Starting point is 00:13:42 But you got to prepare, man. Thank you to the Flanagan's. Mill of Light and Draft Kings, by the way, for that event last night. That was wonderful. That was great. It's time for Puck Luck, brought to you by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. David.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Roy? Yes. Yes, I have a new weekly parlay for our Puckluck for the Friday night slate, not a big one. But some good stuff. First off, it's a three-leg parlay, so Roy's not going to be very interested. In the Islanders at Capitals game. Not enough legs, man. No.
Starting point is 00:14:13 We have two legs coming from the Islanders at Capitals. First off, I'm going to take the Capitals on the puck line, minus one and a half. The Islanders have lost three straight all on the road, allowing 14 goals during that three games. They're going to be playing their third game in four nights, and they're playing a pissed off Capitol squad that just lost a tough game in Dallas and has had three days to stew on it. In that game, I'm taking Jacob Chikrin over two and a half shots on goal. He's hit that number in six of his seven games this year, averaging three and a half shots during that span. The Islanders allowed the 11th most shots per game in the NHL at 29.9, and the Capitals,
Starting point is 00:14:45 have the 12 most shots in the NHL at 29.1. Final leg, Detroit at Anaheim. I want the Red Wings money line. The John Gibson Revenge game, as you see, I'm dressed for it, is on. He's won each of Detroit's last two games and four of his six starts this season. And the odds on that parlay are plus 620. So go make yourself some money and have yourself a good Halloween weekend. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I'm glad that we're doing this because usually, at least for against the spread, my bets have been hitting. So yes, hopefully we will make you guys money. Thank you to Draft Kings for providing us an opportunity to show our lack of knowledge on the gambling aspect of this sport. So now it is time for Rosa N. Uminuto. She is, again, on a flight to Columbus, Ohio, but she was nice enough to actually record a video. and she has a I believe it's a Vancouver Canucks
Starting point is 00:15:45 that she is talking about this week so here is Rose and Rosa in a minuteo Oh my goodness, this is a minute of hockey with Rose So today we're going to Vancouver The Canucks who started suffering Perting 4-3 against Montreal Although Elias Patterson
Starting point is 00:15:57 He did all and a goal of assistance But the Canadianes remodered with three goals Heidded. The next day, the rendition of Keith Sherwood met two goals, including in the victory in overtime To win three said a lot And that's what in Quinn Hughes His captain is a lesionado
Starting point is 00:16:09 Then, when the pesadia, Jonathan Quigg and the Rangers they left in Blanco, 2-0 with Quick, empatting to Lubensky in shot-outs historic. But the Canucks were in the semester with fire artificial. Sherwood's again to explettings, and the book gave the victory in shoot-outs, 4-3, over the Sandys.
Starting point is 00:16:25 So, Vancouver terminate with two victories, two derrots, and Sherwood, converted in the Lerry, in-estperated, met him five of 11-goals this year. And if Hugh's regress, soon, quick with the Canucks. This was a minute of hockey with Rose, a week with a week,
Starting point is 00:16:35 three tantos and Yorkas that's funny she went so low on that trying not to disturb people in that terminal that she just under her breath
Starting point is 00:16:47 because as you know Rose can be loud but that's the situation over there safe light Rose alright that was Rosa in in Un Minuto as I cannot speak Spanish
Starting point is 00:16:57 because I've been living here all my life in Miami before you don't know to be ridiculous but anyway it's time for Rose in a minute and since Rose is not here, we have Ethan. I'm on the sticks, boys. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Three. Stop saying that. Two, one. I'm going to go win the beat drops. Got to set it up a little. All right, here we go. Three. Hey, kids, this is one minute of hockey with Rose. Today we're heading to Vancouver. The Canucks started off rough. They lost four three to Montreal, even though Elias Pedersen did it all. One goal and two assists, but the Canadians came back with three straight goals. The next day, redemption. Kiefer Sherwood scored twice, including the overtime winner to beat Edmonton four three. And that's without their captain, Quinn Hughes, who's out injured. Then came the nightmare. Jonathan, quick,
Starting point is 00:17:35 and the rangers shut them out 2-0 with quick tying Lundquist for career shutouts. But the Canucks closed the week with fireworks. Sherwood exploded again with a hat trick and DeBrus sealed a 4-3 shootout win over St. Louis. So Vancouver ends the week with two wins, two losses, and Sherwood becoming the unexpected hero, scoring five of their last
Starting point is 00:17:50 11 goals this week. And if Hughes comes back soon, watch out for these canoaks. This was one minute of hockey with Rose read by Ethan, a week full of hat-tricks and the killer whales went on a hunt. We love you, Rosie. We miss you. Nicely done. That was good. We do a stupid show, man.
Starting point is 00:18:07 We sure do, Roy. We sure do. All right, it's time for wins and fails. Brought to you by Yeagermeister. Serve it code or don't serve it at all. Yeagermeister. Damn, that's code for more. Log on to yagermeister.com.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Please drink responsibly. David, what is your win? My win of the week, we're going to Nashville. We don't spend a lot of time in Nashville, but they broke out a new feature on their Jumbotron that can only be effective in very specific home games. They broke out the Florida man, Cam.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And they were targeting all these lightning fans. It was Predators versus Lightning. And they had like, Florida Man jumps out of the water to scare an alligator. Florida man uses a python to win a tug-to-war with a truck. You know, all this stupid shit that we do here in Florida, that we get all these Fordaman headlines. The Predators decided to put that on their Jumbotron. I think that's brilliant. I absolutely love it.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I love seeing all these clueless lightning fans up there with no idea why they're being featured and insulted in Florida Man ways. So this for me was 10 out of 10. This was great job by Nashville. Yeah, that's funny. My winner of the week makes a lot of sense today as it's Halloween because we have a kid dressed up as a Matthew Kachukh trading card. Take a look at this. You have this kid himself with a haircut that style like Matthew Kachukh.
Starting point is 00:19:16 That's spectacular. He's wearing a Panthers uniform with Kachuk's number and name. He's inside of a box with a front and back, looks like the front and back of a trading card. It's a fantastic costume. Shout out to him and his parents for getting that done. I hope he has a lot of. lot of candy tonight. That's awesome. That's one of the best
Starting point is 00:19:36 costumes I've seen. Yeah, Ethan, what's your win? Yeah, so we mentioned this guy earlier and I said I would get to him eventually. Connor Redard, we mentioned the hat trick. You got to see it to believe it. This was really an impressive set of goals. First, he's going to get this pass from Tivu Teravan and an epic snipe right there, up top
Starting point is 00:19:51 over the shoulder of Linus Olmark, and then watch this goal here. Through five guys, nasty release for the shot and a goal there. And then this one off the faceoff is just beautiful pinpoint accuracy. We knew that Badard has a nasty release. We're finally really starting to see it. Everything looks better in Chicago this year. Everything looks better around him. Shout out to my boy, Alex Smith. He's been
Starting point is 00:20:13 telling me all offseason about the fact that the Blackhawks are coming this year, and Badard, this is the year. His first career hatrick, he's got 14 points already on the season. It looks like this is the Connor Bedard year. And it's going to be really exciting because this is a player I've been waiting to break out for since he came into the league. Yeah, that second goal, that was definitely a goal scored by a guy named Connor. Yeah, the third goal, it just blows me away the way that he can change his shot angles from no matter where he is on the ice, no matter who's in front of him, he has this way to change his shot angle from where he's releasing a stick from
Starting point is 00:20:47 and still makes it incredibly accurate and ridiculous. So, yeah, I'm with you, Ethan. I'm very excited to see what the future has to hold for old CB up in Chicago. All right, it's time for a fail. Let's go ahead, David. Um, this is about as fail as a hockey fail can get. It happened in the, uh, HL. Walker Dewar of the Manitoba, Mous was bearing down, ready to seal the game with an
Starting point is 00:21:09 empty net staring at him. Would have put up, put the moose up by two against the, uh, Tucson Roadrunners. Here he comes on a breakaway and how did he miss that? Oh, no. How did he miss that? Fortunately for, for our boy Walker, it didn't become a Patrick Stephan situation who missed the empty net against the oilers, back when he was with the stars, and then Edmondson tied the game and it's been a very memeable situation
Starting point is 00:21:30 but still that is about as fail as a hockey fail can get. I wish that Ray Ferraro was on that call because he probably would have been very angry. He would have had some thoughts. Is there an unwritten rule about just walking the puck into the net? Like is it not courtesy to just kind of like
Starting point is 00:21:45 why does he even need to put up a shot there just dump it into the net? Just make sure it goes in. But yeah, keep in mind what happened last year with the Maple Leafs and the senators. The only rule is don't take a slap shot on an empty net. That's the That was badass, man. I loved that. I can't even lie.
Starting point is 00:22:00 That was great. My fellow the week goes to Ethan Frank of the Washington Capitals as he learns the hard way in trying to check Miko Rantanin. It's a tough, tough thing to do because he got hurt. He had a full head of steam trying to check a guy whose nickname is Moose. That is a tough thing to do. It's a great reverse hit, man. It wasn't even a reverse hit.
Starting point is 00:22:20 He just stood there. Meele Ratton just stood there. Unbelievable. He just bounced right off of him. So, yeah, that was a brick wall. and he got hurt and he ended up going into the locker room learned the hallway. Don't
Starting point is 00:22:34 check a guy named Moose. Ethan, what should fail? All right, this comes from the Vancouver St. Louis game last night. It's been a rough go for St. Louis to start the year so far. Their goaltending situation is a nightmare. And they were in a shootout last night with Vancouver. Here comes Braden and he just biffs it completely.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Just totally loses the puck right off of his stick. Jim Montgomery ever like a guy who's going to be fired soon as he always seems to even when he's doing well he still looks like a coach that's going to lose his job sometime soon that's just a brutal break for brayden shen there and like I said guys the blues they can't get a save like Joel hofer's under 800 right now I'm pretty sure in a save percentage Bennington hasn't been the guy that you know we expected to go back to the Olympic rosters Roy like what you know what is Canada
Starting point is 00:23:23 going to do in net like that's where the clear advantage is going to be for the United States? No, Bennington was spectacular at the Four Nations, so they may be banged on. Always is in big games, man. It's crazy. Good game, Benner. David, you are angry about something, and it's not because that you are hot in that uniform.
Starting point is 00:23:38 That was your choice, by the way. What are you angry about? It is so freaking warm in the, like, I'm used to wearing this stuff on the ice where it's nice and cool. Yeah. In a studio with these lights is killing me. But no, that's not my... I wouldn't say it's a rant.
Starting point is 00:23:52 It's just something that I've been thinking about over the last couple of days that I wanted to kind of throw out to you guys. There's a lot of players whose numbers aren't retired, who I'm shocked by. Like, in Philly, how have they not retired number 10 for John Leclair? Or number eight for Mark Recky? Yeah. Peter Bondra? You think his number should be retired in Washington?
Starting point is 00:24:10 Because it ain't. Wow. How about Detroit? And this one, I feel like we can all agree. Number 13, nobody should ever wear that number for Detroit again. That's five old that suit. Yeah. Number 40.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Nobody should ever wear that number for Detroit again. Henry Sederberg. Yep. Like, what are we doing? they took forever they seem to take a long time to retire numbers because isn't everybody like saying that fedorov who's going to do in this year right has been like long overdue are dotsook and zetterberg both in the hall of fame already like have they both wait what's the criteria for getting your number is it like a hall of thing is shouldn't your number be retired before you go into the hall of fame like as a team like you should honor the guy before he even goes into the hall of fame right like that should be the team honors you and then the league honors you and you Sometimes they line it up, like Chara is getting his number retired this year, right? And he's going in on All-Fame this year. So, like, are Dotsuk and Sederberg in?
Starting point is 00:25:02 Chara's getting his number. What about Patrice Bergeron? Yeah. Well, when does he go in? He goes in next year, probably, right? It's three years in the NHL? I don't want them to be correlated. I don't think they should be.
Starting point is 00:25:12 To your point, I feel like it should just be like if the guy retires, like in Anaheim. I can't, but like Ryan Gatslath, maybe the most, you know, other than like Korea and Solani. But of this generation, Ryan Gatslap, was so important in Anaheim. Why isn't his number in the Rafters? And don't get me, get me started on John Sebastian Jadere. Yeah, yeah, he definitely should have his number in there. So this is just the kind of thing that it surprises me,
Starting point is 00:25:35 and it's a team-to-team thing. And even down here in South Florida, like they only have one player's number retired. I was going to say, how do you guys feel about, like, Bray? It was a great couple seasons, but it was only two or three seasons, right? Yeah, and the playoffs. Yeah, nothing in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:25:51 The guys that numbers are going to be retired or the guys that are on the team? Barcov's number will be retired. Maybe Bob. Reinhardt. Bob's is going to be retired. These guys are... Two-time goalie, you know, on the... They're going to be with the team for like a decade. Yeah. Whereas, like, the guys you would originally think of for the Panthers, like the Scott
Starting point is 00:26:08 Mellon B's, or even the Billy Lindsay's, or the John Van Biesbrooks. Like, they were very important to the team, but not for a very long period of time. So that's kind of, I guess, the line of demarcation for me. But these guys that I'm talking about, they were significant, significant for their franchises for years upon years upon years, give them some love. Question for you guys, as people who grew up hockey fans in that era saw the 96th run, right? Like, that was before I was born, so I'd, but...
Starting point is 00:26:34 Just rub it in. Now that they've won, and now that the franchise has a ton of success, would you like to see them go back and honor? I mean, I know Van Breesbrook can't do that one, but would you like to see them go back and maybe retire a 27 or an 11 for Billy Lindsay to kind of honor this is where we came from, and now we're here and winning. I don't know about retiring the numbers,
Starting point is 00:26:56 but what they could do is do like a ring of honor type situation. Like what they've done, a lot of other teams. They had the dinner of honor. Or had the dinner of honor. Yeah, that's a goner now, right? I'm talking about something that's like on the inner bowl of the arena where, like you can see the players' names. Like the Dolphins at the Hard Rock Stadium,
Starting point is 00:27:13 they have probably 20 players. Remember, they get the ribbon board now on both tiers. Yeah, but that's fine. Put it up there digital. I don't care. Save yourself some money I'm just saying like That's like a good workaround for it
Starting point is 00:27:25 Because even the dolphins The dolphins have been around for 50 some odd years And the first half of them were pretty good They've only got three retired numbers Yeah that's true I mean of course when you have somebody Like a Dan Marino Brino Grisian Zonka
Starting point is 00:27:37 Three of the best Yeah but yeah Having a ring of honor is a good idea Although I would probably have to say It's probably going to have to be one section Of somewhere in the arena Probably in a concourse You got to start somewhere
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Starting point is 00:31:13 Cassie Camel Pascal is with us. She works for ESPN. She is an NHL analyst. She does games for them. And we are very honored for her to join us. I mean, she's a gold medalist. She is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And we got the Olympics coming up. And we're going to talk about that with her. But first, we cover the Florida Panthers down here. And the two-time defending champions have had this season start off very, very roughly. They have some adversity with injuries to Alexander Barkov, Matthew Kachuk, Tomas Nosek, and Dimitri Kula. Lookoff, do you think this adversity is going to be too much for them or do you believe that they will straighten out the ship once the regular season ends?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yeah, well, I think to three-peat is going to be an incredible accomplishment for them and, you know, something that's going to be difficult regardless who they don't have in the lineup or who they do have in the lineup. But I think losing Barkoff in particular and what he does for that team and the organization not only on the ice, but I think off the ice is going to be something difficult to overcome. And, you know, but we've seen the teams that have gone to the Stanley Cup final over the last couple of seasons have had its slow starts. And I still think the Florida Panthers have a great team. They have a lot of depth and a lot of character.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And, you know, I think their regular season isn't necessarily going to be indicative of what we would see from them in the playoffs. And, you know, as they get healthier over the year, that's for sure. But it's no surprise that, you know, the teams that have gone to the Stanley Cup finals haven't necessarily had the start. they've wanted and then injuries compound that even more. So I still am a big believer in the Florida Panthers doing some damage in the playoffs when they get that opportunity. But it's difficult to overcome, you know, the injury of their captain for sure. The New York Islanders are dead last in the Eastern Conference right now. During frozen frenzy on Tuesday, the Islanders had a two-goal lead against the Boston Bruins and they allowed the Bruins to score five
Starting point is 00:33:08 unanswered goals and they lost. On Thursday, Matthew Bazal was a health scratch in the 6-2 loss to the Carolina Hurricanes after they showed up late to the morning skate and Patrick Raugh said that's the culture of our team. What is going on in New York right now? And can I blame Tony DiAngelo like I happen for the past two seasons? You know, I'm not sure what the New York Islanders are, you know, and I haven't been sure for a few years now, you know, what type of identity that that team has. And, you know, I'm a big believer in Patrick Waugh. And he's old. school and you know we saw it i think it was last year kevin fiala for the la king's similar similar thing
Starting point is 00:33:48 where it was late for a meeting and wasn't able to play a game in san jose and and i i respect those rules i think those rules have to apply to everyone but i just got to be honest with you i just over the years i've been lost at what the identity of the new york islanders have been and what direction they're going and obviously the young defense in matthew shaper he's going to be a star but I just think they've kind of lacked in an identity and you know are they a skilled team or do they want to be a physical team and and I you know I'm not putting pointing fingers at anybody but I've just been at a loss simply what the culture is there and and what direction I mean everyone wants to win but what are they what's their identity and I think Patrick Guas trying
Starting point is 00:34:31 to bring that I think you know by setting the example with one of your stars and Matthew Barzell, I think that's important. I think there's particular specific rules that have to align with everyone, no matter who you are in the organization. We all know that some people have a longer leash than others just based on their skill level, but I think the general rules have to apply. And so I get that, and I think he's trying to establish some kind of culture there, but I really haven't been able to figure out the culture there for quite some time. I could point some fingers right now, actually. I can point it at Lou Lamarillo, who built the team before he was unceremoniously fired.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And then, of course, Tony DeAngelo. Yeah, well, you know, that's why I have, I have, I have no choice. I have to. I'm sorry. I got you. Thank you. Cassie, I do see that you're wearing your awesome PW gear, and that leads me into something I definitely wanted to ask you about. Just in terms of the growth of the league,
Starting point is 00:35:23 it's been so much fun to watch over the last couple of years. I love that they're not afraid to be experimental with rules. I love that they're letting them be more physical and play more hockey like that. And now we're getting two new teams this year in Vancouver and Seattle. So I just kind of wanted to get your take on where you think the league is at and just how awesome it has been to watch it grow over the last few seasons. You know, it's been incredible. You know, I'm of the generation where we watched our league start up and fold and start up and fold. And it wasn't without great passion.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And now to have the ownership group of Mark Walter and his team, you know, support us and back us in a huge way. It's been tremendous and it's giving us our best chance to survive. And, you know, I believe we have over 200 staff league-wide, which, you know, we used to try and do this. this with one commissioner and a bunch of volunteers. So to watch it grow and the on ice product, you know, to watch the PWHL machine from a business side, from a marketing side, you know, really, you know, push the players into the spotlight, I think has been really important to showcase the great personalities that we have. And, you know, all their players are getting more and more opportunities than they've ever seen
Starting point is 00:36:28 before. So that's amazing. And, you know, just to watch the expansion happen and, you know, the way we did it and we researched for seven months over this. It wasn't just a decision that we made, you know, overnight, you know, to watch those teams come in and they're going to be competitive and they're going to be, you know, make sure that our league has parity across the board. I think Vancouver and Seattle are terrific markets and they showed that in the takeover tour games. And, you know, for me as an old player and an alumni, so to speak, this is, you know, a dream
Starting point is 00:36:58 come true to be able to watch it and, you know, watch the current generation, you know, have something like this. It's incredible for me. It's a dream come true. It's an honor to be a part of. And, you know, we have a tremendous team from a hockey ops to a business ops, to the communication, to everyone who works for the league that is really pushing in one direction to try and make this work. And that's been a big part of our success as well. Where in the history of this sport would you pinpoint the interest in women's hockey being greater as it is now? because we're seeing, as you said, the sport, especially the PWHL growing right now. So where would you say the interest started rising?
Starting point is 00:37:37 You know, I'd have to say you go back to the 98 Olympics and the first Olympics for women's ice hockey. That was a huge step. And, you know, I was on the losing end of that Olympics, but I think it was important that the U.S. won as well, looking back just to help grow the game in the U.S. and just help grow the game overall. But, you know, that was a big pinnacle moment in our sport that really pushed it to another level, which I think was really, really important. And, you know, we've had great leagues in the past.
Starting point is 00:38:03 You know, there's so many of them from the original NWHL to the second version, to the Canadian Women's Hockey League, to the original Cowell League way back in the day, to the PHF, like so many leagues that really help set a foundation and set a tone for this. And now we have finally everyone working together, and I think that's always been an important step that we needed. And, you know, every Olympics, it seemed to get. this attention that it didn't normally get. And now we're getting the attention on a regular basis so that young girls and young boys, for that matter, can watch their favorite female
Starting point is 00:38:37 player, you know, not just every four years or at a world championship. It's, you know, from November to June. And they can turn on a television and get an opportunity to watch some of their favorite players. So, you know, getting this league and having this foundation and having people who are, you know, working and can make a living and all the opportunities that are coming from the PWHL to help push us forward, I think it is a big turning point, you know, that we have more staff and more people involved in all the markets to help make it work. You mentioned the young players kind of going to the Olympics, and that takes me to the next thing I wanted to ask you about.
Starting point is 00:39:14 We've been talking a lot about Olympic rosters. Obviously, we're all very excited to see the NHL guys going back to the Olympics this year. But it seems like over the last, you know, I guess few weeks since the NHL season started, guys like Macklin Celebrini and Cole Cawfield are really kind of playing their way. on to these Olympic rosters. So I just don't have a two-part question. What do you think about these young guys making their case for an Olympic spot where there's so many veterans that have been dying to get back out there?
Starting point is 00:39:39 And the importance of, as we were just talking about earlier on the show, bringing the young guys to the Olympics to get them that exposure, whereas, you know, they've got world championships and other opportunities, but it's going to be a tough decision right now for the people that are curating these rosters. Yeah, I think it's a little bit less about exposure for these young guys more so than experience. You know, you're also as an organization thinking of 2030 and, you know, the veterans that won't be there and these young guys that potentially have that opportunity. So I think it is important, despite the fact you want to win here and now, it is important to maybe have a young guy on your team that, you know, can get that experience and bring that forward. And it's been remarkable to watch Cole Caulfield and what he's been able to do, especially in overtime in Montreal.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And, you know, I cover Macklin Celebrini a lot with ESPN. and he's having a tremendous season. And, you know, they had a tough start in San Jose. As everyone knows, they lost their first five games, and two of them were probably games that they should have won. And then they go on a road trip, and he produces 10 points and just to put the team on his back. And, you know, I really think the important thing for these young players,
Starting point is 00:40:46 Connor Redard, you can put in that category, they have to play a two-way game in order to be on these rosters. Because, you know, if there's injuries or whatever, they have to come in and they can't just provide offense, they have to be, you know, provide that two-way game. And I think that's important for both, you know, general managers of all the teams, not just the
Starting point is 00:41:04 North American teams. So, you know, that's where I see maybe a Macklin-Sellebrini getting an opportunity because he does have that two-way game for Canada and Cole Cawfield and you think of Clayton Keller. You know, he's a little bit older, but he didn't, you know, make the Four Nations
Starting point is 00:41:20 team and he's been playing so well and trying to make a name for himself and Logan Cooley, but I still think you have to have that two-way element to your game, and it's so important with all the skill that's out there on the ice. So it'll be interesting, you know, knock on wood, there's not a lot of injuries, but, you know, the way it is, there might be one or two, and who gets to fill those shoes of some of those players that were there at four nations for all the countries.
Starting point is 00:41:43 So it's going to be fun to watch regardless of who's there, but it's also going to be interesting to see some of those final decisions that the general managers have to make. Cassie, I've always been infatuated with the Olympics. I think they're the greatest sporting event that we have in the entire world. You're a three-time Olympian, two-time Olympic gold medalists. For us, mere mortals who will never actually participate in the Olympic Games. What says you?
Starting point is 00:42:09 What are you going in? Roy, you going in hockey? You've been taking lessons. Curling. I'm e-bugging right now. Let's go. E-bug for Team USA, David's Work. But can you just take us, like, explain the experience in some way, like,
Starting point is 00:42:23 try and help us make sense of what it's like to be at that level around all those unbelievable athletes and represent your country on that stage. Yeah, I think, you know, you train and you're part of a hockey team and you're trying to go to the Olympics as one team as the hockey team. And then you get there at the Olympic Games and you become Team Canada, Team USA, Team Sweden, but it's it's about all of the athletes, all the sports. and to get an opportunity to pick the brains of the other athletes and to cheer them on, that's one of my favorite things.
Starting point is 00:42:57 And, you know, the friends I've made over the years that are from different sports that, you know, I treasure them completely. But it's the ultimate, you know, I think if the quarterfinals on in both men's, women's, or para hockey, it's like Stanley Cup game sevens, you know. And it's an event that only comes around every four years. And so if you lose in the quarterfinal,
Starting point is 00:43:18 it's like losing in a game seven. If you lose in the semifinals, losing in a game seven. If you lose the gold medal game, it's like losing in a game seven. So, you know, game sevens, as you guys know, in the NHL and the Stanley Cups, especially the Stanley Cup final, I mean, that's the pinnacle of our sport. And you have an opportunity to potentially play three or four of them at the Olympic Games. And that's what the pressure's like. And that's what the caliber of hockey is like. And yeah, it's just an event like no other. And I remember my first opening ceremonies, I walked into the stadium in Japan, and I had this out-of-body experience
Starting point is 00:43:53 where I was this little girl at home watching myself walk into the Olympic Games, because I watched it every year as a kid, every four years as a kid, or two years, I guess, summer and winter. And, you know, those were my heroes. Those were the people I looked up to, and all of a sudden, there you are. And it's the biggest sporting event in the world where you get to represent your country. You become a team and teammates with so many other people. so many other sports and it's just a really unbelievable experience and just really hard to describe but it's it's incredible i've chills i just i got the chills from that answer that was unbelievable maybe it's the AC right now the uh the main arena is not even completed and uh the
Starting point is 00:44:36 olympic village is just a dorm i mean it's not even like the normal olympic villages that you see uh during the summer or past olympic past winter olympics so how is that going to to affect the players knowing that they're going to go in and possibly play on ice that's not up to the Olympic standard? You know, I think as an Olympic athlete, you expect the unexpected. I mean, you just, you're willing to, whatever happens, you know, just to deal with it. And that's the way you go in and approach it. And I think you talk about those things, the potential distractions that could occur.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I think every Olympic Games, people are talking about security, people are talking about venues, not being finished, there's always a political climate within the country of where the Olympics is being hosted, all these things that are really out of an athlete's control. So, you know, you talk about those distractions, the possibilities of what ifs, and, you know, as from a hockey standpoint, the staff has your back as far as dealing with any of these things that potentially could happen. But, you know, it doesn't matter of the ice conditions. It doesn't matter what your dressing room looks like if the stalls are built or the benches
Starting point is 00:45:43 or whatever. The Zamboni breaks down. I mean, you just get out on the ice and you do your job. And, you know, it's, again, the ultimate event. It comes around every four years from a hockey perspective. And you just, you know, you just don't let anything get in your way. So you prepare for those distractions. But once you're there, you just deal with the things that are within your control.
Starting point is 00:46:04 And, you know, you just hope that the host committee has everything under control. And they're doing the best that they can to put on the best Olympics for their country. And that's got to be your approach as an athlete. And the other thing about this is, I mean, obviously it happens in every international competition. Different size ice is as opposed to the ice in Canada and the United States. You've got bigger ice, bigger rinks in the national game. So if you're a player who's used to playing on smaller rinks and now you're playing in an international game, how much of a difference is that? Yeah, I mean, it can be a difference for sure.
Starting point is 00:46:42 you know my understanding it's going to be an hl ice surface there so i think that's going to be helpful to everybody but um you know you just prepare again that's just part of your preparation whatever the ice surface is you know the olympics pass for me it was you know Olympic ice surface and you know that's how you train as much as you could you get on an Olympic ice surface from a from a team perspective and go through your you know your structures and your your tactical stuff and again it's just one of those things that you know it's just part of it's just part of it's It's part of your preparation. You know, there's little things that you can tweak depending on the ice surface and the size of it.
Starting point is 00:47:17 But, you know, everyone's playing on the same ice, so there's no excuses. And, you know, it's definitely just something that's unique. But for my understanding, the ice surface is going to be the same. Before we wrap it up, I did have one more NHL-related question for you. And this is just something that I've been toying with for a while. But I like to think that if the NHL, we all love the three-on-three overtime. Like, I think everybody can universally agree. Three-on-three overtime has been great.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I think if they just went from five minutes to ten minutes, it would probably eliminate like 90% of shootouts, which I feel like a lot of us can agree that the novelty of the shootout has kind of run its course. So that's just my pitch to the NHL to maybe tweak a rule, make some more fun three-on-three overtime give rid of some shootouts. What do you think about that, Cassie? You know, I love the skill aspect of the shootout. You know, from time to time, you still get to see these amazing moves, right? Or these amazing saves. I love the skill aspect of it. I'm glad that, of course, we don't have it in the playoffs, and you know, you win or lose five-on-five.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And I wouldn't mind seeing the 10 minutes. You have to understand, though, as an athlete, three-on-three is tough. It's like a bag skate. So you're taxing your stars, obviously, a little bit more. But I wouldn't mind seeing it move to 10 minutes, more three-on-three. And another thing I'd like to see it is once you cross center ice, you can't go back. You know, otherwise it's a penalty. No more backlash.
Starting point is 00:48:41 something that's something that I'd rather see first before a time change or eliminating the shootout, sort of that over and back rule in basketball that we often see. But, you know, I love the skill of it. And I'm also glad that it has nothing to do with the Stanley Cup playoffs. And, you know, teams get to win, you know, five on five unless, of course, there's a penalty. But, you know, I just prefer it that way in bigger circumstances. Cassie Campbell Pascoe is a champion. And we are honored for her to be on the show with us. Thank you, Cassie, for joining us. All right. Thanks, boys. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I signed to enter the Panthers Den and a bit warm this den right now, as opposed to David, who is right now sweating his ass off. A little bit. Yeah, so the Panthers won against Vegas, 3-0. On Saturday,
Starting point is 00:49:35 they lost in a shootout in a game that really they should have lost in regulation. 3-2, against the Anaheim Ducks on Tuesday. Tomorrow, they will play the Dallas Stars. Now, Brad Mawshan was not with the team for their game against the ducks on Tuesday because of personal matters. And that personal matter was his friend and former trainer, J.P. McCollum, lost his daughter 10 years old to a bout of, I believe it was cancer. So, yeah, now that was a very sad situation there.
Starting point is 00:50:08 and Brad Marchand showed his support by going up to Nova Scotia and being a part of a celebration of Saylor's life. Her name was Sailor. And it was a special hockey game. And he was a coach. He was behind the bench of a team by the name of the March and Mill Company Hunters. This was in the Nova Scotia Under 18 Hockey League. Marsh, obviously, that's Brand Marshon.
Starting point is 00:50:34 That is a apparel company that Bramarshon is a part of. of. He volunteered to be the coach for Wednesday's game, so J.P. McCallon could be with his family and grieved. That was a nice thing that Grandma Sean did, and I said this once he was traded to the Florida Panthers, and I'll say it again, he's a good man, he's a stand-up guy, and still weird to see him in a Panthers uniform, but I am very happy that he's here. Good guy, and there you go. So here we're rejoined the team for the Star's game tomorrow. Can't believe I ever hated that guy. He's the best.
Starting point is 00:51:10 It's crazy, right? Like, how your opinion of a guy can change so much over the course of, I don't know, a few years. Yeah. But he's not the same guy that... He's not. He's softened up. The first half of his career, like he was a very dislikable player if he's not in your team. Like, you love to have him as a teammate, but man, it's just such a good guy.
Starting point is 00:51:27 He's been so nice to everybody, every interaction we've seen. He's joking around with guys in the media, whether we're on the road or at home. It just seems like an all-around good guy, and this just, you know, this hit you right in the field. His perspective seems to have really shifted from the Boston thing. You know, he was so insightful that night, you know, when he went back and everything. And he's been so insightful throughout this whole thing. And he really is just awesome. And the Panthers miss him.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I mean, they miss his finishing touch, you know, in that game against Anaheim. They certainly could have used them. Yeah, no more licking of faces there. Ryan Collahan, I'm sure he was very happy about that. Tuesday against the Ducks, he wasn't there, obviously. we said that his and again the panthers actually had very good goal tending they really kept the puck in the duck zone but major mistakes especially on special teams is what doomed the panthers early one of them led to a shorthanded goal but in the third period they really looked like the
Starting point is 00:52:26 panthers of two seasons ago or even three seasons ago where no lead was safe they came back and tied the game uh so it was a good effort but very, very poor showing in a shootout. What was your takeaway from Tuesday's game? Yeah, as you said, we're seeing bits and pieces of Panthers hockey that we've come to expect from the last few years. Obviously, it's going to be a lot harder for them to maintain that level of consistency when you're missing so many key players from your lineup.
Starting point is 00:52:55 But the fact that we're getting it in bits and pieces, I guess, is a positive. The game against Anaheim, just a shorthanded goal against, which is surprising. And then, you know, less than four minutes later, they're giving up a five-on-three goal, and that was really it. Dostal, Anaheim's goaltender was spectacular. They've been goalied a few times this season the Panthers have. You think, like, the first two games of the year, they barely got past, like, Spencer Knight and Dan Vodar up in Philly.
Starting point is 00:53:20 So, really, it's just a lot of mixed bag right now. Like, they can't seem to put it together other than the Vegas game. The Vegas game was probably their best 60-minute effort this season. But other than that, it's been kind of bits and pieces. They absolutely got goalied because the Panthers outshot them, out-attempted them. like they had puck possession basically almost the entire game and he looked really good in the shootout too did doestall I know everybody loves the deserve to winometer
Starting point is 00:53:45 the panthers were like 90 to 10 at some point to estal was fantastic in the shootout like in person you could see he was just cutting off all the angles like Reinhard didn't have a look and then Erod not that he's the most skilled guy in that spot to kind of take a shootout like he didn't have a look at all Lundell got him with a snipe but just to quantify what we're looking at with the Panthers right now. They're currently third in expected goal
Starting point is 00:54:10 percentage. Um, an entire league. Six and a half. Something like that. They're, they're, they're getting 56.42% of the expected goals. Again, third best in the league behind only New York and Colorado. But their shooting percentage on shots on goal is third worst in the league right now. They're shooting 7.02%. It was a similar problem last year. That's where you really miss Matthew Kachuk. That's where you miss Brad Marshand in a game like Tuesday night where you have all the chances completely dominate the puck possession, just not finishing. Alexander Barkov as well, we know he's a great finisher. In the shootout, we really, you know, the Panthers really missed him because that's where he is so dominant. So, you know, the Panthers,
Starting point is 00:54:53 right now it's just that finishing touch that's missing. They just can't get the puck to go in the net. If the water, if the dam ever breaks, they're going to look like the Panthers again. I just don't know that the dam is going to break anytime soon right now. No, if you have a math, you could chuck, at least if you have a medium or low danger shot, there's a good possibility that he'll clean up that rebound. Yeah. But the Panthers just could not finish against Anaheim on Tuesday. There were a lot of shots that went wide.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yeah, that's kind of been their thing lately, is the shot attempts stay high. The shots on goal have fluctuated quite a bit. And of course, the blocks. Yeah, and Paul Mores has talked about, like, you've just got to find a way to get pucks through. You've got to move your feet a little bit. You've got to open up those lanes. Like this is a thing that they've talked about, not just this season, but in years past.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Which is why you've got to be confident that they're going to be able to figure it out. The Panthers are in for a tough one on Saturday. Jake Ottinger is coming in with the Dallas Stars. What do you see happening with this game now that Bramarshons back? I'd like to see the Panthers get back to doing what they did against Vegas and for at least half of the game against Anaheim. Like that's been, it really doesn't matter right now who they're playing against. Obviously, they've played some really good teams on this homestand, which is a good challenge for them. But they just have to get back to playing Panthers hockey.
Starting point is 00:56:02 They have to get back to the five-man game, getting their strong exits, running their proper routes, getting at second-chance opportunities, and getting puts to the net. I mean, first and foremost, that's the thing that they started the most with. Yeah, last year around this time, the Panthers were leading the division. This year, right now, it is October 31st. It is Halloween. The Panthers are 5-5-1 with 11 points, and they are now in sixth place in the Atlantic Division. So it's a far cry from what happened last year. this team was healthy. So it is what it is. We'll figure it out. Why I think there's going to be
Starting point is 00:56:37 the Panthers are they didn't get their trade ads this season. They're going to get the addition of Matthew Chichuk. They're going to get the addition of Tomas Nosec. Eventually, Sasha Barkov, hopefully will be back as well. Demetri Kulikov. So these are all like additions that are going to come to the roster that are going to cost them nothing. So as long as they can keep their head above water, continue to play decent hockey, they should be okay. Yeah. The line of demarcation usually is Thanksgiving, and that is about a month from now. Frege's, it's November 1st. If you're four points out on November 1st, the percentage is really, really, really low
Starting point is 00:57:11 that you're going to make the playoffs. The Panthers obviously not four points out, but... 63% is what I saw on one of these Twitter accounts. Yeah, the athletic, I think they're at 65, and they haven't changed since before the year. It's so early. I'm not worrying about anything until, like, everybody's back in the lineup. It's such a tight race. As long as they don't find themselves
Starting point is 00:57:33 like 10 points out over the next couple months, which I'd be shocked for something like that to happen. I think the pants are going to be fine. Thank you for Cassie, Campbell, Pascal, for joining us today. Thank you for, thank you to Gino and Jason
Starting point is 00:57:45 who are in the back. Ethan is wearing the bright side. Yeah, thank you to Mikey for this awesome bright side jersey. Everybody over there, I love you guys. Yes. And Dave, you can finally take off the goalie stuff because you just look so uncomfortable. right. Do I? I'm not. You did
Starting point is 00:58:02 phenomenal, twerkey. You did phenomenal today. Unbelievable. Can you see the sweat coming out? Yes, actually right now now that you pointed out, I can. It looks like the scene from Mission Impossible with Tom Cruise hanging from hanging from the ceiling and that drop of sweat. He had the catch so it didn't
Starting point is 00:58:18 hit the floor and the press sensor. So that's what you looked like right now. This must have been what it felt like to play hockey like back in the 80s when they didn't have AC in the building. Oh, oh, Chicago Stadium. Shots good. Full leather gear, probably worse than what I'm wearing now. So yeah, yeah, that could be worse. Well, you could finally take it off now and
Starting point is 00:58:34 enjoy the air conditioner. My name is Roy Bellamy. It's going to be a stinky ride home. We'll see you next week. This was the hockey show. Thank you for listening and joining us today. Oh, the football season. Cruel beast. Sometimes it gives. Sometimes it rips away. Sometimes you've got good times. Sometimes you got bad times.
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