The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Hockey Show: Paul Maurice Stories With Adnan Virk

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

It's the final Hockey Show of the year and Roy and David are joined by Rose and Ethan to celebrate the occasion. The boys start off their slapshots, winners and losers of the week including the vibes ...around the Rangers, Zach Hyman's face and an emergency goalie literally running to the game. Then, Adnan Virk joins the show to discuss his conversation this week with Florida Panthers head coach, Paul Maurice, after he sat down with PoMo leading up to the Panthers game against the Edmonton Oilers. Speaking of that game, is there something to what the Panthers are doing against some of the top teams in the league? Also, is there any way out for the Rangers? Finally, we wrap with a recap of the Panthers week that included a shutout loss to the Calgary Flames, the epic win over Edmonton and a domination of the Minnesota Wild. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:37 Yeah, I just said that. I'm gonna interrupt you. Steve Martin. We're gonna start, I'm gonna interrupt you. No, I'm. Okay, do it then. I can't intro the damn show. Five, four, three, two, four. Five, four, three, two.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Four, five, four, three, two, one. Welcome to The Hockey Show. My name is Roy Bellamy. That's David Drowick over there. He works for The Hockey News. Rosarius is over there in the EP chair. I'm sorry I'm laughing, but the audience doesn't know the countdown drama that we just had trying to get the show started
Starting point is 00:01:07 Oh believe me, I'm gonna put it there Yeah, okay fine Ethan Badowski you work here. All right, so yeah That's a good description I just come here bro I love the shirt he's got on because it looks like a 1990s era shirt But it's quite obviously a brand new shirt I was born in the 90s, but I wish I lived in the 90s for real because you look like I would have thrived thriven thrived thrived Right you were born in the 90s
Starting point is 00:01:32 Spanish but it's thrive. Yeah Okay English lessons with Rosie I like it slap shots let's start on our hot takes there Dave go ahead Okay, so my first hot take is the Rangers turnaround is starting. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. And the reason why is the coaches are now playing with the players. Oh. So yesterday, or Thursday, as we record this, the Rangers are in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:02:01 They held a practice at the Stars facility there. And Peter LaVulette, head coach of the Rangers, Michael Pecca, assistant coach of the Rangers, decided they're gonna show the players how to do it in the shootout drills. I don't know how particularly well it goes, but I'm seeing this as a good sign that everybody is happy, the good vibes are back around the Rangers,
Starting point is 00:02:21 the coaches are farting around and having fun, and yeah, the turnaround is coming. Do I believe what I'm saying? No. No, I don't. But let's put the positivity out there. So go get them, Rangers. You're only like 14 points or whatever out of first place, but you can do it. Yeah, all it took was the trade of Jacob Truba and Cabo Caco. Yeah, you know, just get rid of key guys. You're good. You're good. Okay. So now if you have goals, you'll be successful.
Starting point is 00:02:48 That's just my opinion. I think that's how hockey works. Yeah, that's how hockey works. Now a lot of people love dogs, you know? In fact, I would say that most people love dogs more than they love people. You're wearing a sweater with a dog on it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Now I'm not a big fan of dogs, but I mean, if Claire, I mean, Claire does want a dog. My wife does want a dog. So then you will be having a dog. Probably not. And like I said, like I said, you know, most people love their dogs or their pet more than most people.
Starting point is 00:03:19 You know why? Because people are dumb. That's why. Sure, the average person, you know, the average person is smart, but people? The dumb, panicky, dangerous animals? You know it. You know that. I don't like people. Yeah, I don't like people either. I like these people. You don't like me? No, you guys are... No, no. You guys... People are dumb. We live in South Florida. Yeah. Like. It's the communal dumbness down here.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Oh, yeah. There's a lot of stupid people down here. But putting that aside. Yeah. Where are we going with this? Yeah. Sam Bennett, as you know, is currently trying to save pets all over Broward County right now.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He has been his buddies. He's created this foundation with the help of the Humane Society of Broward County. Every time we score a goal, a pet gets sponsored for adoption, right? Currently, he has 13 goals. 13! His career high is 28. He's almost halfway there already and we're not even at Christmas yet. Yeah. So very, very successful right now. Good for Benny. I'm very happy for him and He's saving a lot of dogs
Starting point is 00:04:25 He's making a lot of families happy now while we're at this Section here talking about pet adoptions. I want to give a shout out to one of my best friends in the world She is currently one running a rescue adoption service as well as called rescue paws right now. She's trying to find rescue paws right now she's trying to find forever homes for dogs right now you know and I just wanted to give a shout out to her and hopefully some of the listeners would donate to this cause you can just log on to rescue paws FL dot or G and find some dogs some new homes and I always wanted to say this have your pets spayed and neutered. I have the greatest idea. Nicely done Mr. Barker. Thank you. What if we adopt a dog and call it Pock and it's the hockey show dog? You got to take care of it. Yeah, yeah that's all you. First thing I thought of, who's taking care of the dog?
Starting point is 00:05:18 I barely want to bring a dog home to my house. My family's already got enough. Yeah. Can we just have Willow be the hockey show dog? Willow is just the metal art dog. Well, because Willow is awesome, and Willow is here, and Willow has a loving home already. No, she's the metal art. So you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:36 I'm just going to go to my hot take, because you people don't take me seriously. But my hot take is literally is going to be very hot in Florida. So why are we doing an outside hockey thing in Florida? Rose is a dome It's a dome, but it's outside. It says outside. It's a dome I do want to make I do kind of agree with Rose here because as excited as I am about a stadium series coming to
Starting point is 00:05:59 Florida it's not an outdoor game if it's in a Stadium with a retractable roof or the roof is gonna be closed and the windows are gonna be closed They're gonna close everything up while they make the ice and they're gonna make sure it's frozen and then once the game starts they're gonna open Don't open it and then close it. No. No, I think it'll depend on the day If like they're praying for a good weather day No, no, I think it'll depend on the day if like they're praying for a good weather It's gonna rain for a good it is going to rain that would be very appropriate You know why because it rained during the period yeah, yeah, that would be very appropriate. That's how that works That's how it always works down here because shit happens
Starting point is 00:06:35 But how crazy is it though like this is like what's just kind of been sinking in over the last week or so since we first Found out about this that the the Panthers Still trying to sink in that they want to sell this. The Panthers are hosting an outdoor game. That's nuts. And yes, I know it's a quote unquote outdoor game and if it's cool enough on the day that it happens they'll open the roof up. I'd say I'd probably take the bet that the roof will be closed and open if we're talking odds. But who cares? Like this is awesome. You remember when we were just happy when they got an all-star game. I Remember when it was like the playoff chase was what we look forward to every March like oh man
Starting point is 00:07:11 They're only five points out with two games at hand. Let's go. I'm finished with 93 points. Was that the year that they? Yeah with the Capitals, I think the tiebreaker scenario against the canadians Yeah, that one hurt losing to the Flyers in game 81, I remember going to like BoCampers or something to watch that. Ah, it's life is good as a Panther fan. Well, now it is. Yeah, now it is. Yeah, it can't say shit to me.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Wins of the week. Wins of the week. Okay, so my win of the week is goalie root, gotta love it. Young man named Zachary Dietz, the e-bug in Ottawa, got called into action very late earlier this week. You gotta love an e-bug.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So Anton Forsberg hurt himself during his pregame warm-up routine, so this guy, Zachary Dietz, gets called at like a quarter to six. And traffic in Ottawa, anybody that's been to a Senators game knows it is nuts because there's only one road in and one road out. So he basically said, bleep it, I got to get to the stadium. And as we're watching the video here, he picked up his bags, his gear, and he's running as all these cars are sitting in traffic trying to get in. These guys running to the arena. He gets there, suits up, he's on the bench for the game. This is an NHL goaltender right there,
Starting point is 00:08:18 folks. And he is running with his own gear to the stadium. I thought that was so awesome. I would absolutely do the exact same thing if I was him i would whatever it takes get me in that n.h.l. bench i want to sign a contract that was so awesome something that he's gonna have the rest of his life with that video and the experience just completely completely cool all encompassing my win of the week he hooked it to the state to the arena now we're not talking about a position play with our about gold to the so that's extra panic oh yeah he had a lot of gear a lot of gear So good for him Tracy. I went in a week
Starting point is 00:08:50 We go to Twitter Currently known as X my Commodore Had a tweet right now, I gotta read this so Jacob Borchek had this treat. He said, as a flyer, I definitely think that if the Penguins make the playoffs, you got to respect Crosby, Malkin and LaTang so much more. First palette trio in my own opinion. Now is that tweet from like 10 years ago and it just like got caught up in his drafts and just now got sent out? Cause I'm pretty sure we've known for a little while that those guys are all going to be first ballot Hall of Famers.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah, well first of all, I personally don't have to do a goddamn thing, alright? Fuck that shit. As far as talking about, oh, first ballot Hall of Famers, I'm not saying that. I mean, maybe Chris Lata- I don't know if Chris Lataing necessarily is a first ballot Hall of Famer. No. But certainly- Well, he's talking about trios.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah, well certainly, you know, the 2.0 of Lemieux and Yarder. Yeah, but yeah, it was basically one of those- you know the the 2.0 of Lemieux and Yager yeah but yeah it was basically one of those you know how they say Magic Johnson has one of those you know tree set everybody themes obvious mm-hmm if there was a Magic Johnson in hockey that would be Jacob Orchardt I guess in that situation maybe Jake's just trolling that would be he was trolling that would be great felt like that was and Commodore took the bait. Yes I guess so because my Commodore and by the way, keep in mind they were both teammates in Columbus
Starting point is 00:10:10 No, so I guess they know each other very well. They might even be friends That was a decade and a half ago when they played together Commodore said and I quote like I Usually do no shit Jake Playoffs this year makes no difference. Stupid fuck. Those are not my words, even though I did say. They kind of are. They say fuck earlier in this segment.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Ropes is just checking off all these. You're killing me here, man. I'm sorry, man. Poor Mally. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to everybody. This is what happens when we get Roy talking about the Penguins.
Starting point is 00:10:44 This is what happens, man. Right, fails of Penguins. Hey, this is what happens, man. Right, fails of the week. Yes, from segue from the Penguins to my fail of the week. My fail of the week is Zach Hyman's face. That poor man took an Evan Bouchard slap shot right off the kisser. It was deflected. Yeah, but it was still coming in hot. And credit to him, he's a hockey player. the kisser. It was deflected. It was still coming in hot. Yeah. And you know, credit
Starting point is 00:11:07 to him, he's a hockey player. He came back in the game with the fishball on his head. He's not going to miss any time because that's hockey. But so the next day, I think it was Mark Spector took a picture of him in the locker room and we have it to pop up there. I think we do. But his face was like, it was like a mean. Yeah. He looked like a mean, like a much paler, a mean. His nose ballooned. Yeah, his whole face looked like somebody put like a, like a, you know, what you pump up the ball with, an air pump thing, and just stuck it in his ear and just, but the point at the end of the day is that he will never miss a game because of this.
Starting point is 00:11:46 How many people take a slap shot off the face? You're not gonna see me for a month. Duh! But yes. Duncan Keith. There it is. Oh wow. He looks like he just went 10 rounds
Starting point is 00:11:55 with Rocky Marciano or something. That's crazy. So yeah, it's that kind of in his face. Prime example of that would be Duncan Keith in the Western Conference Final against the Sharks. Took puck to the face, lost eight teeth, I believe, for top for bottom, came back in there. Yeah, that's hockey, baby.
Starting point is 00:12:12 That's hockey. My fail of the week is the New York Rangers defense. This is unacceptable. So in the Rangers Predators game earlier this week, Luke Shen was in front of that. Now, the video's being played right now five he had six six shots three feet nine probably not even three feet in front of Igor Shostakin six shots in three seconds not a single Ranger they're just watching they're just watching they're just
Starting point is 00:12:39 watching so you know we're talking about in practice they're having fun right now Michael Peck is over here doing shootout drills. They're doing that shit earlier this week. That's bad That's that's not that's that's that's bad. No. I mean that's good on Schusterken making six saves in three seconds It's pretty awesome That's what the Panthers goalies need for their safe percentage is being so bad They need to make six saves in like five seconds to pump it up there Yeah But yeah
Starting point is 00:13:03 That's bad like how do you let a guy stand at the foot of your crease for more than a second with the puck right like, black, black, black, like that's. That earns them a back skate. Now I'm not talking about what they're doing right now in this era of NHL hockey. I'm talking about actual parachutes on their backs as a skating because that was terrible. Like 1980s Russia style. Oh yes, exactly. That's terrible. Now, our guest coming up,
Starting point is 00:13:27 and you can watch this on YouTube for the DKN audiences at Namburg, Prime Canada Monday Night Hockey. We're gonna talk Moe stories, Paul Maurice. He had a sit down interview with him and he has some stories to tell us. So we'll get to that in a second. Hey everybody, it's Mike Ryan and I'm super excited to talk to you about Rhone.
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Starting point is 00:15:20 He's been having some fun lately. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. He has the distinct pleasure to have sit- down interviews with some luminaries of the sport and he just talked to Paul Maurice apparently he has some stories that he wants to deliver it to us. So, Antnan, what'd you find out from Mo Mo? Well, Roy, David, a pleasure to be with you guys and you're right you call him Mo right out of the gate. You don't even can't even call him Paul. He just looks like a Mo. He feels like a Mo. He talks like a Mo and Mo was awesome. We sit down. You think it's
Starting point is 00:15:47 going to be, you know, a few minutes, five minutes. Who knows how it's going to go. Eight and a half minutes. Moe's got stories for days. And specifically that Panthers or those games, as you guys know, game of the year, Canada, phenomenal game in terms of the back and forth action. This was in the morning of. And I just said, what's it like being here now that moment when you won that Stanley Cup? What was the most gratifying moment? I run away, he goes, oh, you're gonna make me cry. He said, but it was that moment you look around and you see all the people that are there responsible
Starting point is 00:16:12 for your success and how grateful they are and how much gratitude they have and just what a collective effort it is together. He goes, that moment, I can't describe it. I can't encapsulate it, but that's that moment when you're just hugging and crying. And it's gonna make me cry just watching that moment. It was so sweet to see a guy who'd coach so many games. And then the follow-up, I said to him, I go, Mo, we all know you guys lost the
Starting point is 00:16:34 previous year. If you'd lost this game, I mean, you would have been the first team ever to gag a three lead. I said, I don't know anything about X's and O's. He laughs. He goes, oh, now there do I. I said, no, don't be humble. I said, but motivation-wise, you've got to tell this teammate, everyone's squeezing the sticks tight, we just gagged an O3 lead. Three O leads, excuse me, like, what are you saying? And he goes, the key is you have to focus on positivity. And you guys know this, Roy and David, he goes,
Starting point is 00:16:54 that game five, we were great. So I said, look at that game five, we played a great game, we can do this, all right? It isn't like we're playing horribly and the wheels are completely falling off, we can do this. And the other thing I tried to tell them was, be liberated if you can. I know it's hard to say, have fun out there in a game seven,
Starting point is 00:17:12 but try to have a little fun. Try to think in your head, hey man, one game you win in Stanley Cup, we can do this. And two, one, he goes, I think we had 19 icings in the third period. He goes, sometimes. Willed it to happen, but he said it was an amazing moment. And he's a coaching lifer.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I said, Demo, you have no signs of slowing down. Bill Zito called you. You were fishing. He said, I had four straight days of great fishing. Some of the greatest fishing of my life. And he goes, Bill Zito kept calling. And eventually, he got a text. He goes, I have to clean this up.
Starting point is 00:17:38 But he goes, basically, someone said to me, pick up the bleep and phone, because Zito's calling you. And I was like, I'm good, man. Like, I'm taking this to the house. It's been fun. Winnipe up a carolina heartburn and it was bill would not take no for an answer and eventually I was like okay fine let's do this news now I don't want to be in a rail seat because I know it's a cliche. I
Starting point is 00:17:53 know you're not going to believe me but bar cough is an unselfish superstar. Kachak is an unbelievable guy. He goes I've been on teams where we're winners and we don't have a great room but this is a great room and they're winning team and he goes you don't you don't have a great room, but this is a great room and they're a winning team. And he goes, you don't have that. And I said, Mo, next year, barring any catastrophe, you're gonna get 2000 games.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Only you and Scotty Bowman have coached 2000 games. He said, man, I'm getting way too close to the sun. He's got nine Stanley Cups. It doesn't seem fair. But my favorite stretch. Respective. At least he got one. Yeah, I'm sure you guys are gonna love it.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I said to him, Mo, long before the term was coined, and this is an NFL term, but you were Mr. Irrelevant. He said, yeah. He said a bunch of scouts got fired with the Philadelphia Flyers. I'm sure. Yeah. 1985, the number one pick was Wendell Clark. Number 252 was Paul Maurice.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And I said, tell me about it. And he goes, listen, I was just a house league player in the Sioux. I didn't think I was anything special. I was at the bar with some buddies. And my mom was listening to the radio for updates because you don't have an agency of any of that stuff. And he was saying mom called and said, you got picked by the Flyers. And this was 1115 at night. And I said, God, I hope I'm not the last one. But
Starting point is 00:19:00 I'm doing the math. He goes to the rest of the night. I was the last one to do everything. I was the last one to but I'm doing the math. I'm pretty good with the last one. It goes to the rest of the night. I was the last one to do everything. I was the last one to get a beer. I was the last one to catch a beer. I was the last one to do everything because I was the last one. That's great. Great story from Paul Barice. Yeah, the image I'm always going to have, I mean, I'm going to have this forever is
Starting point is 00:19:17 when Mo was talking to Emily Kaplan, you know, the coaches interview after the Stanley Cup and then here comes Spencer Knight. He has the cup in his hands and just handed it off the mo. And then you get that shot of him lifting the cup with his eyes closed. Like that's savoring the moment of 30 years of coaching this sport. Yeah, it's crazy. He's been doing it since the 90s. Like he's coming up on 2000 games now and he's only in his 50s.
Starting point is 00:19:45 What? 57 or whatever it is like. It's crazy. Like he could do this for another 15, 20 years if he wants to. I don't know if you're right. He could coach 3000 games. He could. This Panthers team is not going anywhere for a little while. Nope.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And by the way, I said to him, as to your point about coaching him as a young man, he goes, I said, you coach Paul coffee. Well, I also sat down with earlier. He was on these. It was here's my Paul Coffee story. So I'm 30 years old. He goes, it's Wailers Bruins. Every year was like Wailers Bruins. Wailers have is always lose. I because Paul Coffee was like a seventh defense at that point. But I call him in and I tell him, you're not playing game one. And he goes, OK. And he channels like a pro. He goes out because he just rides the bike like a maniac. Like I can hear it. Like he's like panting and screaming.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Oh my God, this guy's very fired up. And he goes, of course he was right. I was wrong. We lose the game. And I put him back in the rest of the series and he was awesome. And he goes, it just it was a good lesson that sometimes people are screaming and yelling and ranting is fall coffee. I'm telling a Hall of Famer, you're not good enough to plan. He's like, OK, I'll prove you wrong. And he was right. And as always, I was wrong. But he said it was a good memory because he goes, I was 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:20:48 He goes, you don't understand what that's like, 30 years old and you're head coach of a team that with these guys are eyeing you. It's amazing. And then you mentioned the game the other night. And to me, that kind of looked like what game five would have looked like had it gone the Panthers way, right?
Starting point is 00:21:01 They kind of fell behind Edmonton, had that great 10 minute stretch, and then the Panthers kind of dominated the rest of the game. So is there something to what the Panthers are doing right now against great teams in terms of maybe they struggle against the Chicago, but they come out against Edmonton and Minnesota again the other night and just dominate these teams and win these big games? It's a great point. I think if given a choice, would you rather your team plays down? You want them to win every game. But if you have a choice of playing down the opposition or play your best against the best teams, I'll take the latter.
Starting point is 00:21:31 OK, that sucks if we play bad against bad teams. But guess what? In the playoffs, we're going to play against great teams. And if we can elevate our play, we can do it. And honestly, to score six goals in Edmonton without Barkov, especially after you've just been shut out in back-to-back games. Hadn't scored a goal over 140 minutes,
Starting point is 00:21:48 you only been shut out once in back-to-back-to-back games. So with that environment where you're, again, squeezing the sticks tight, no one's scoring, and you put up six and you were down, and that quick strike offense, like the ingenuity of Reinhardt on that goal, the way he circled, then just is able to like bank it off a skinner, like that's, that's, that is,
Starting point is 00:22:07 you don't teach that kind of stuff. So I think if I'm a Panthers fan, I've, again, I know not every game is, is created equal, but as our friend Tim Kirchner always say, that's a circle game. Like early on you look at the calendar, you circle that game, cup final rematch in Edmonton, and then you win that game.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Now it's a double circle game. This is motivation. This is going to keep us rolling. And they did after that. And then I want to talk to you a little bit about the New York Rangers because I just don't know what the hell's going on with the New York Rangers. I mean, those two trades that they made last week and the week before, I mean, that's what's going on here. Something is amiss at Madison Square Garden. And we don't really kind of smacked me in the face this morning is I looked at the standings they are 14 points behind the New Jersey Devils yeah and it's December 20th what the hell
Starting point is 00:22:54 is going on with the Rangers because I've been hanging my hat on Shisterkin it's okay Criator Zabana Jad you know but I don't know. Like, are they, is this gonna be like the biggest disappointment ranger season we've seen in decades? Like, this is bad, dude. They can't get their shit together. Yeah, to quote Yogi Berra, it's getting late early. And I'm glad you get perspective on how far back they're the devils now.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Cause you're right, you're accustomed to saying, well, it's not 20, 25. You have like, no, no, we're, once you hit into the Christmas break, it gets go time. And I talked to Arthur Staples of Newsday about it, and I focused first on Shosturkin, and I said, let me just start with this because I know it's not his fault, but he's been good, but not great. And sometimes you guys know this, a goalie can cover up a lot of different weaknesses.
Starting point is 00:23:33 He says, that's true. Him and Quick have been good, not great. But the problem really is their offense. And he goes, your Kryder is your Zabinejad, if these guys aren't playing at the level they should be. Let's talk true, but first, guy doesn't want to get traded because his wife is working in the medical profession in New York. New's talk Truba first. Guy doesn't want to get traded, because his wife is working in the medical profession in New York, New York's a great city,
Starting point is 00:23:48 doesn't want to go anywhere. They're like, no, we want to get rid of you. No, I don't want to go anywhere. No, you have to, we're going to bench you. Well, we'll trade you at 10-time. You have to say yes. You have one year left, eight million dollar deal, okay. By the way, he's the fourth Ranger captain
Starting point is 00:23:58 to leave unceremoniously. The last Ranger captain to just leave gracefully was Jaromir Jagr. Otherwise, it's jury, somebody's going to get traded. Otherwise, it's jury. Somebody get traded like it's crazy. Don't be the Rangers captain. It's not a good sign. Kreider hasn't been good. Obviously, he's a Benazade.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Here's my thing with Kapo Kako. Why you benching him? Like, I've never watched a Rangers game and said to myself, oh, that third line guy, he's the problem. But once you singled him out, I love the fact he stuck up for himself. He's like, yeah, I didn't realize I was the issue. Like, you're going to make an example to me. Like, Bench Subinishad, Bench Crider, Bench won the Top Guns.
Starting point is 00:24:30 That will get everyone's attention, whether or not they deserve it or not. What happened with the Flyers towards Bench Meechcock? Didn't deserve it. Maybe it's part of the plan. You're going to get my attention. Two games healthy scratch. Meechcock's the favorite to win the Calder Longest Celebrating. Like, if you're going to do something, do it with an impact. Otherwise, you bench Capo Caco, who seems curiously inexplicable.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Why is this happening? Then gets traded. The trade doesn't seem like you're getting much anyways right now. So, it feels like, guys, it's leading to potential Peter Lavie firing. I like Lavie. I think he's a good coach. Been there a long time. Been in the NHL a long time. But eventually, because you can't fire the players, you have to fire the coach. And your point, David, it is getting late early. This is concerning for the Rangers. How do you win a President's trophy and also you're flailing around fighting to make the playoffs? It's crazy. I have a question for you. I'm going back to the Panthers
Starting point is 00:25:12 Do you think that this season they were like, oh we're winning Game three, but we're not gonna win four or five and six because it will make a great movie like For real the last 15 seconds. You didn't even know if they were going to win and they had the puck for them. So all the slow mo and the Hans Zimmer music and everything. So you think they did it for music? They did it for shits and giggles. I like it.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Excellent shout out to Hans Zimmer. I mean, he's one of the great composers of all time. A great score can do everything. The new Superman trailer just came out. One of my he was one of the great composers of all time. A great scorer, can do everything. The new Superman trailer just came out. One of my friends was like, man, my greats. Oh, that's really good. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:25:49 That looks so good. Yeah, I mean, listen, it is a much better story than the fact that Panthers went seven. That was a great steal, like a foul. There's no question about it. You go back and watch that series in its entirety. It wasn't like Florida dominated. It wasn't like them that they gagged.
Starting point is 00:26:02 They were all generally close games. It was competitive. And that game seven, if you said to myself, hey, if you don't have a dog in the race, you're going to get a one goal game seven. How do you not root for that kind of a final? But yeah, it was, it was tense the entire way through. And the fact that McDavid won Conn Smythe, that even adds more drama to it. Like, how do you think he feels? That guy is so frustrated. He just wants to win a Stanley Cup. Hey, guess what? You win a Conn Smythe with a losing losing team. It's almost like a double blow. Like, don't give me the Conch Spice.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I didn't win the cup. I don't want this thing. But yes, I think the Panthers, sure. I think Mo was like, you know what? Let's make this a little bit more dramatic for the great fans of South Florida. Let's win this cup. By the way, I was wondering this too, and Maurice kind of
Starting point is 00:26:36 touched on this a bit. Like I said, everything's about winning that Stanley Cup. The franchise hasn't done it. You haven't done it. Is there not just a slight inclination? 5%? You can ease up a little bit because you're not as tight now. You know, the franchise hasn't done it. You haven't done it. Is there not just a just a slight inclination? Five percent. You can ease up a little bit because you're not as tight now. And he goes, it is, but in a positive way, meaning in the past,
Starting point is 00:26:52 you have so much pressure upon yourself that you have to get it done. Once you've gotten it done, you just naturally relax, which allows you to be a winner anyways. So you start to play with more house money. So, yes, obviously, winning helps you. It's not that it makes you less hungry. It makes you more relaxed, which can make you better. Finally, the Avalanche played the Sharks last night, the Avalanche won 4-2 and both teams made a trade this week,
Starting point is 00:27:14 Mackenzie Blackwood and Alexander Georgiev. That was really interesting because both of the older goal tenders faced each other. Now, what do you think about this trade? So I think Roy that the avalanche need to get a goalie. And I figured that part. I thought maybe Cam Talbot, who's been I think underrated for much of his career, but McKenzie Blackwood, listen, especially living here in Jersey,
Starting point is 00:27:34 everyone thought he'd be the answer for the Devils. Things didn't work out that way. Colorado's a curious team. Cause I was looking at so far, disappointment surprises. Like I think the Capitol has been a genuine surprise. Best team in the Easter Conference, nobody saw that coming. Devils have been really good
Starting point is 00:27:47 But my partner in crime Jason Demers on our podcast and it's all inscripted said no I thought the Devils would be really good. It's okay as far as disappointments Rangers. We've touched on sabers are just a disaster Yeah, you always tell wonder they're gonna make the playoffs break the structure 13 straight seasons, but no it ain't this year I want to get anything to make your eater, right? So I look at the avalanche I go make the playoffs and break the stretch of 13 straight seasons. But no, it ain't this year. Once again, it can be this year either. Right. So when I look at the avalanche, I go, you know what? They just haven't been healthy. Like if they're rolling, if you're telling me McKinnon in late March is going to be battling for the Art Ross or the heart and they give me Rantanen.
Starting point is 00:28:15 By the way, Rantanen demursed it to me, he goes, it could be a one solo type player. And I said, explain. And he goes, he's not the best player on the sport, but he might get like a gigantic contract next season. I said, I didn't realize Rantzen is up after next year. Of course, McDavid's in two years from now. But anyways, long story short, I think they need to get an upgrade in goalie. I think when they're healthy, they'll be pretty good. But it's an odd year for Colorado.
Starting point is 00:28:34 They're not going to be the team to beat, so to speak. And yet maybe being a wild card team might be more concerning for one of those favorites because Colorado, when it comes to playoff time, I still think they're locked in. If you give me McKinnon to mccarr watch out Yeah, I'm pretty high man I think blackwood is a sneaky good goaltender that has not gotten a good run whether it was on some not great Devils teams On a you know, I mean the Sharks are the Sharks. They're better than they've been but they're not a grid team I am I'm pretty bullish. I think Colorado might be my new Western favorite right now
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yeah, Colorado like is for as slow of a start as they had, they're sitting in that second wildcard spot right now and they haven't even really gotten hot yet. So I can just see them getting guns blazing in the second half of the season and then just climbing up that central division. And they're actually tied on points right now with Dallas, who everybody loves Dallas, right? And they're sitting right behind Dallas in terms of the central division. And I just see them getting hot in the second half and rolling. Yeah. And Dallas has been pretty good without Jason Robertson being Jason Robertson. Like they've had other talent stepping up. Obviously, Audenger's had a great season as well. So yeah, Dallas and Colorado. I mean, God, that's like old school 90s matchups. That's like,
Starting point is 00:29:38 I could feel the ESPN theme and Gary Thorne with the call right now. Oh yeah. Texas, little stars out. That'd be great. All right. And you can catch them in Canada out. That'd be great. All right. And then you can catch them in Canada if you're living in Canada, prime Canada for Monday night hockey. You can catch them on NHL Network and once baseball season starts and we'll be around the corner, man.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah. What's a ball right now? Yeah. All right. And then we appreciate you showing up and we'll see you in January. All right, Roy. David, my pleasure. I'll book my monthly appearance soon.
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Starting point is 00:32:14 How do you go from back-to-back shutouts to 12 goals in two games against two of the best teams in the conference? Very carefully? I don't know. I mean, they woke up. They did that earlier this year They lost what three four or five or something and then they came back and won three in a row by a score of like 17 to six against the Canes twice and the Leafs like they're good
Starting point is 00:32:33 They're just kind of streaky and they're really good and they show up for big games and they did this without Alexander Barkov who was sick. Yeah, Barkov missed the Edmonton game Then Sam Bennett missed the Minnesota game and you couldn't tell that they were missing one of their key centers for either of those games. Well, maybe the Edmonton game, maybe having Barkov there. Yeah, I know you can tell, Rose. Yeah, I wanted to play a super cut of all 11 goals of the Orlers game, because it's just funny. That was a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:58 That was a lot of goals, and the Panthers had to lead three times in that game, I believe. They did score first It was a one nothing two to one. Yes Five four five five six five geez so that I mean that's basically Panthers hockey right now Like they for the past I would say five years They've had the well with all to be able to stay in a game and be able to come back I know the game is never over. Why does Supercut make me laugh so much? Because, you know, I mean...
Starting point is 00:33:28 You should have let me set it to the Benny Hill music. I can hear... I'm hearing the music in my head. But yeah, I mean, if you're looking at this on YouTube... How would you guys like seven games of this again? This is good, huh? Not... Not to travel no not
Starting point is 00:33:46 You did not travel so watching this game. I don't know about you Roy's Rose Roy's yeah Yeah, if I didn't refer to both you know Roy's I don't know about you guys But when I was watching that I was definitely having a little PTSD hold on can I just say I would have taken all that travel You guys did You guys were on the ice after game seven I don't want to you guys complain you were on the ice after From all of us that we're not on the ice after game seven. From all of us that were not on the ice after game seven. Play the Sam Reinhardt goal please.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I don't want to hear it. Play the Sam Reinhardt goal. I don't want to hear it. Play the Sam Reinhardt goal because I want to point this out here. The Sam Reinhardt goal. Now. Yes that take makes me feel like the goalie.
Starting point is 00:34:36 All right so the Sam Reinhardt goal. This is a prime example of Florida Panthers hockey and it starts on the four check because his four check is what led to Matias Ekholm falling down on the ice. Couldn't even handle it. Couldn't handle it. And then he ends up in the corner.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I've never seen Sam Reinhart look as fast as he did on that play. Yeah, I mean you look faster when somebody falls across the ice. I mean that was crazy. And then he goes to the corner and rips one off the side of the helmet. From below the goal line.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Yeah, that right there. That's disrespectful. That is disrespectful. And I love it as a goalie. Like if you can do that, that's hard. And then on Wednesday, Matty Kachuk, his two goals, and the first goal, that was critical Matty Kachuk. Yeah, he loves pissing off goalies.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Oh, he absolutely did. Like I said it before, you remember the Ron Artesta celebration that led to him elbowing James Harden. Oh yeah. That's what happened to Marc Andre Fleury. Yeah, except that, I think there was a little intent there.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Like he'll never admit it, and that's just my opinion, but he knew what he was doing. And the Panthers in that game allowed 15 shots on net on 25 attempts, 11 scoring chances, 8 high danger chances in the first period. The second and third periods combined 12 shots on goal, 26 shot attempts, 8 scoring chances, and zero high danger chances. They shut them down for the rest of the game in Minnesota and they're playing the St. Louis Blues tonight at home. Finally coming back home.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Finally a home game. They don't leave the state of Florida until next year. So lucky for them. So the Panthers are 8-2 and 1-0 last 11. They've scored four goals per game. They've allowed 2.64 goals. It's crazy that four goals a game during that stretch while two shutouts in the middle of it.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Yeah, 35% of the power play. So that's the Panthers week. That is the this is the last episode of the year for us. Yeah, we want to thank the the Enfield, by the way, they sent us some stickers. Oh, yeah, no, Savannah from the Enfield. Yeah, Savannah specifically has sent us stickers. She specifically wanted me to give you this sticker if we can. But it's a big heart with the name Crosby in the middle. So here you go, Roy, just for you. Yeah, the Crosby, you see this? All right, you can put the camera on me.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Get the f... All right, we would like to thank Rose. We wanna thank Ethan. We wanna thank Mike and Danny. I wanna thank Dave. I wanna thank myself. I wanna thank you for watching and listening for us. To us here in 2024, we will see you next year.
Starting point is 00:37:12 They're letting us back. Yeah, really. So we'll see you in two weeks. We'll see you in two weeks. Happy holidays, everybody. All right. Happy holidays. Goodbye.
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