The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Hockey Show: Playoff Madness
Episode Date: April 25, 2025It's a loaded Hockey Show as the Stanley Cup Playoffs are in full swing, so Roy, David, Rose, and Ethan naturally start with former Florida Panthers' goaltender Spencer Knight's hunt for an apartment.... They dive into wins and fails of the week, which includes Team USA's women winning the World Championships on a golden goal, Matthew Tkachuk coming back with a vengeance, and the epic harmonica national anthem in Los Angeles. Then, Adnan Virk joins the show to break down what has gone wrong for the Edmonton Oilers, what has gone right for the Toronto Maple Leafs, and the mess Jim Rutherford created in Vancouver this offseason with his comments about Quinn Hughes. Plus, Adnan sticks around to discuss the Panthers' series with the Tampa Bay Lightning, whether or not Brandon Hagel's hit on Aleksander Barkov is a suspendable offense, and why the Panthers were doubted in this series. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'm a big fan of musicals get out of here big fan. I hate musicals love musicals. That's my boy Roy. I hate musicals
I'm with you about Disney movies Roy. I hate Disney movies
You don't like frozen no. I like soul soul was great. Oh, so was awesome
I didn't know that so was very good. What's the one you didn't like soul? No why it was not that profound
What the fuck?
And comes back to life
What the **** are you talking about? He dies and comes back to life.
Yeah bro. Listen, that's statute of limitations. Yeah, statute of limitations is up on Sol. That came out during the pandemic. You said it's not profound. The guy dies. We're talking about mortality here.
here. Welcome to the hockey show.
My name is Roy Bellamy.
That's David Troyka, the hockey news.
We have Rosie and Ethan in the shipping container.
We are all unhappy.
We will get to why we are very happy.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Oh, you know what I'm talking about.
I am unhappy, actually, because you will know my fail of the week.
It's a similar feeling to last June, to. To the final a little bit. Yeah.
We should have been really happy after game two and we weren't. Yeah there's one
instance on why we are unhappy and we will get to that with Adnan Burke later
in the show. But first let's look well I can't even say we can lighten the mood
with this because apparently Spencer Knight can't find a house. Play the video.
So right when I got here I started looking at places to live. Because living in a city
is different than living in, say, a suburb where it's, you know, okay, guys live in this
one suburb. It's 10 minutes to the rink. All right, which house do you like? You know,
there's townhomes, there's condos, there's duplex downs, there's single-family homes,
there's high-rise apartments. You know, they're trained next to one apartment. I don't like
that. You know, like, that's weird. I don't know why they're above ground and like so loud all the time.
I don't like that. I don't want to live in a place that has super loud like that.
Okay, this street's loud, this street's not. This street's a one-way.
There's someone above me here, the floors are thin. Like there's so many little things that are going to
to living in a city that seem, you know, actually, you know, you don't think of when you're just like
in Florida when you're in a house and you're just like, I have my house and this is my spot.
You know, the only thing bothering me might be the the lizards in Florida.
For Spencer Knight, the former future of this franchise in Florida is now the current goaltender in Chicago, and he's having a hard time trying to find a place to live.
Goal tender in Chicago, and he's having a hard time trying to find a place to live I'm torn like part of me obviously feels for the guy, but part of me is like dude you have options like well clearly
You know what I learned from this video is he's never seen Blues Brothers because he didn't know that there are apartments in
Chicago that are right next to the L train just like Elwood Blues his apartment in Blues Brothers where the train comes by
So often you won't even notice
Yeah, it's often. Yeah, you can fall asleep to it now. It's just like a record we need that but that's a better point
I think if Spencer Knight hasn't seen Blues Brothers between the fact that it's a class and the fact that he lives in
He's only two years younger than me. He can't use the excuse that oh, I'm too young to have seen Blues Brothers
First of all, there's no age that's too young to have seen Blues Brothers. First of all, there's no age that's too young to have seen Blues Brothers There's no age that you should always have seen Blues Brothers once you pass the age of like 16 years old
I would say
The fabric of Chicago and it's the best musical of all time in my opinion
That's the only musical I like
Of all time
I would agree with you Roy
Thank you. Thank you very much. Not Chicago. Certainly not Mulan Rouge
What about the producers?
Rouge get out of here with with
Hamilton have you seen them play the theme theme song from the TV show Rawhide, Nay?
Bob's Country Bunker
I'm ashamed to say that I've never seen it. At Bob's Country Bunker.
I've never seen Hamilton.
Rollin', rollin', rollin'.
Like, I feel like I'm the only person.
Stand by your man.
All right, you guys are...
Yeah, you got me started on Blues Brothers and you lost me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Chicago.
Hockey.
No more musical talk.
All right, fine, let's move on to a bit that they did on Inside the NBA.
TNT loves to do a crossover between the NBA and NHL because
They got to at this point. They have to because they're losing the NBA. So they gotta do that
So lean in the hockey. Yeah lean the hockey inside the NBA
Promoting the brothers over there across the studio at the end
The hockey side had Ernie Johnson Kenny Smith and Charles Broccoli shooting pucks on Shaquille O'Neal in front of the net.
Unfortunately...
Going the night!
Chuck, you got to stick back.
You ain't going to score a goal.
Chuck got to stick back.
How do you know?
Because I played hockey!
That's your damn lie.
Skate hockey, not on ice.
Oh, street hockey.
See what I'm saying?
There you go, Shaq, you got the angle.
I actually don't feel comfortable commenting on this.
What are you doing?
Because of that right there.
Wow.
Oh my God.
Because of that right there. Yeah. Because these are the best things that you can do. You got the angle
Because of that right there yeah, these are some of the best athletes in their craft of all time and
Dude just took a slap shot that went 90 degrees the wrong way right well I always love facing the wrong way the blade facing the wrong way
I always love sports crossovers where you watch some of the greatest athletes at one
sport play another sport and they look like complete idiots.
Like I remember seeing Neymar try and swing a baseball bat and just looking like a six-year-old
trying to swing a baseball bat.
Like it's amazing to watch the different, you know, legends in different sports try
and try other things and just completely fail at them.
Basically what happened was Charles Barkley had the wrong handed stick. So if he was a right-handed...
He was shooting lefty, but he had a righty stick.
Yeah. So basically he was on his forehand with a backhand in that situation.
And the puck went way that way.
Yeah. It looked like one of my golf shots.
So is... nicely done. So is... Nicely done. Yeah.
So is the moral of the story, stay in your lane?
No, no.
This is not a shut up and dribble situation.
No, it's not stay in your lane.
You can try out new stuff.
Okay.
But yeah, I mean, no one knows what you're doing.
I want to see a better effort from Shaq and Gold to be...
I want to see somebody who knows what they're doing shooting on Shaq just because he's so
big.
He didn't have the right stick either no we can
find we can finally prove whether or not if you just put a giant person in goal
assume they could just do a great job what was that commercial the walrus
the guy so that's a great commercial that is a good commercial yeah that's a
species that's the only situation where I think you can put something large
non-athletic in the net and it'd be okay
Oh, man, I'm trying to remember what his name was like Wally or Ricky or something. Way to go
No, no I thought I was gonna end my streak of shit talking to the islanders because they rostered a racist
But apparently not because they had a little bit of news and this is actually good news
I'm not shitting on them for this one because they fired their general manager
and team president Lou Lamarello. Yay facial hair wins! Facial hair wins so
Anthony Duclair you can grow your hair out he had to shave his dreads off
because of that archaic rule that the Islanders had. It's gonna take him what
another year to grow him back it took him five minutes to fire Lou
Yeah, it's gonna take like two years to get those dreads back. So Anthony declare you can grow your hair out brother
That's a is he get another job
No, he'll get a job. I was listening to 32 thoughts
He'll get a job it as an advisor somewhere just because he's Lou Lamarello and so's a name. So like they'll tell cycles people exactly he'll get a job just in some front office as an
advisor quote-unquote and he'll fade into a relevancy. Bullshit. As long as it's not like an
advisor role where he can advise people not to shave. I highly doubt he gets a
GM job again for sure though especially with the way way that things went in New York this year.
Can you imagine like he's sitting in the back of like a hockey ops meeting and they're all
going over the season to come and he's in the back and he's like, I have a suggestion,
maybe they shouldn't shave.
And for the first time, everybody can just be like, anybody else?
Never.
No new business?
Never.
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David?
Roy?
My win of the week, I have two wins of the week, actually.
My first one, similar to last week, it's for all of us.
We are all winners.
Every week we are all winners.
Well, you know, if we can share the love, all the better.
But for me, this was my welcome to the playoffs moment.
The playoffs started last weekend.
The Panthers didn't play for four days.
But in the span of what felt like 10 minutes
the other night, the Oilers came back
from a million-goal deficit to tie the game in Los Angeles.
Then the Kings win the game with a minute
to go after the Oilers just came back on them.
And all this is happening
While Colorado and Dallas are playing one of the most exciting over times that we'd seen in the playoffs so far and granted it's early
But it was a very exciting overtime Dallas ended up winning the game. Their fans are going crazy
It was a kind of an upset win because they hadn't won in forever and Colorado is really good right now
Just that whole sequence of about 10 15 minutes in real time. I was so excited on my couch
It wasn't even 10 to 15 minutes, it was like four minutes.
And I missed it, all of it, because I was watching in bed,
falling asleep, up way too late on a Tuesday night
or whatever it was.
You're like 22 years old, way too late.
No, it was too late, I was exhausted the next day.
Exhausted.
But it was worth it because you go from,
I'm watching Dallas and Colorado
because I think the other game's over.
Then I hear the other game's tied.
Now I hear the other team takes,
the Kings take the lead again.
So I switch over to that and by the time I get back
to Dallas and Colorado, Dallas scores the game's over.
Missed all of it.
You have a second win, Dave?
I do have a second win.
Earlier this week in Los Angeles, the first two games,
national anthems, big story obviously games, National Anthem's big story,
obviously now lately a little bit controversial
with everything that the US and Canada,
the, what is it called?
The Harmonica class of the Koreatown Senior
and Community Center of Los Angeles.
Wow, that's a long title.
They did their own rendition in Harmonica of the anthem.
We don't have the audio for fear
of getting clipped on YouTube,
but I will tell you, it is divisive.
Some love it, some don't.
But the fact that everybody was talking about it,
the fact that it was just a universally seemed-to-be-enjoyed thing,
except for some people who maybe didn't like how it sounded,
but I mean, who cares?
It brought everybody together, people were smiling, people were enjoying it.
The fans were singing it like crazy.
It just was a fun thing, I thought.
Even if I wasn't crazy about how it sounded,
I thought it was just the whole cool thing was.
The fans got to sing it.
The fans got so into it, and that's what gets me into it,
is like any kind of fan interaction.
So I thought that was a win.
Rosie.
I'm going for a win, now that we're talking about this,
because LA is winning against Edmonton,
so we don't have to fly to Edmonton
and don't take anything easy.
Thank you very much.
Don't jinx it, Rose.
It's only two games we're doing.
Don't jinx it, yeah.
I know.
The Oilers were down three, nothing in the cup final
last year, you had to go to Edmonton twice.
Right now, I'm liking what I'm seeing,
so I'm gonna go and those are my wins.
Rose is high in the kings.
Beautiful puck.
All right, my win of the week, I got two two of them. First the IIHF Women's World Championship
ended with Freebird being played in Czechia. Yes. Tessa Janicki ended up
scoring the golden goal in overtime for the United States to beat Canada 4-3 in
Czechia so they got the goal. Congratulations ladies that is excellent
for you. Really happy for you to shout out to the
United States women's hockey club. You love a good stick toss into the fan the crowd celebration
Oh, yeah, absolutely was it Jack Hughes that did that first?
That was great my second win of the week is from the Carolina Hurricanes
Twitter department social media team on Easter Sunday Carolina beats the New Jersey Devils for one
To go up one nothing in the series they now lead to nothing and the Hurricanes went on Twitter
Currently known as accent posted the following message not today's okay
That was on Easter Sunday even better because they were mad that they had to play on Easter Sunday the the Hurricanes
They thought it was unfair to them and their fans
Amazing tweet. Yeah, Ethan.
My winner of the week goes to Matthew Kachuk, guys.
It was so great to see him back on the ice,
but for this specific reason.
So Jake Gensel scores the goal to make it 1-1 early
in this is going back to game one on Tuesday night.
So after he scores, he scores while Matthew Kachuk
is in the penalty box, right?
And after he scores, Chuckie's coming out of the penalty box
and he chirps him.
Gensel yells right over at him, says something to him.
So what does Matthew Kachuk do?
He responds with not one and a beautiful goal here on Vasiliski,
but two goals to make it 5-1 Panthers.
And then in game two, after everything went down with Brendan Hagel
he's chirping Brendan Hagel and he's saying no I don't care about you and
pointing at Nikita Kucherov who obviously slew-footed him earlier in the
year we'll see what kind of response Panthers have in game three but I
absolutely love Chucky answering back the chirps with two goals and then
getting the last laugh in Tampa last night. Alright, fails of the week. David?
Alright, my fail of the week, we are going to Toronto. Ridley Gregg of the Ottawa Senators.
That's where usually the fails happen in Toronto.
Look at you.
Hey, listen, I'm sure.
He was trying to get in the kitchen of Anthony Stolar, our old friend Stoli the goalie who is doing amazing for Toronto.
And Stoli was having none of it. He was hacking him, checking him, pushing him in the back, gives him a slash to the
midsection, just get out of my crease.
And then after we think it's over, Greg tries to, for some reason, tries to go back through
the crease on his way out of the zone and Stolle just gave him a back shoulder and knocked
him square on his ass.
I support goalies protecting their homeland.
The crease is their space. I am
all for Anthony Slower's doing this. I thought that was great. Ridley Gregg, that's a fail
on you. Stay out of the crease, buddy.
Yeah. My fellow of the week is this guy. Apparently he can't decide whether he's a Panthers fan
or a Lightning fan because he took two separate jerseys, two separate Panthers jerseys and
two separate Panthers jersey and a separate Lightning jersey, cut them in half and sewed each half together with the other one.
It looks ridiculous.
And these number 69?
Yeah, it was a custom. They were custom jerseys, by the way.
The player number was 69 and the name on the back was Dougie Fresh.
You know what that means?
There are two versions of this jersey because the Panthers have said Dougie and
has six the Lightning have had fresh and nine so that means that there's another
half that has a Lightning portion that says Dougie and six and the Panthers
version that has fresh and nine. Well that makes sense. That's losing mentality.
If that one gets dirty he can go to his backup. Whatever man I mean he spent
five hundred dollars on two jerseys just to ruin both of them.
It's a weird look.
For all the years of Panthers Lightning Hockey, I don't think I've ever seen that before.
It's a weird look.
I've seen bad Panthers jerseys.
I've seen a fake jersey from China with the Santas on the back of the jersey, and that's
equally as bad as that, basically, in my humble opinion.
Ethan.
All right, my fellow week goes to Evan Bouchard.
And I'm gonna tell you why here.
This goal that he lets up to Quentin Byfield,
game two was a massacre by the Los Angeles Kings.
Byfield walks right in.
Now a lot of people are saying you gotta blame Darnell Nurse here because it's his responsibility to pick up Byfield
and Bouchard is cutting off the passing lane. But you can't just let your guy
skate right in on your goalie and have a point Blake opportunity like that,
in my opinion. I understand that if Byfield gets the pass off and Bouchard
steps towards him, that he's going to get the flack for not taking away the
passing lane. But ultimately, they let your guy walk right by you.
You got to try and make a play and put some pressure on byfield
because even if he does go for that pass, at least maybe your stick
is right there to block it away.
I thought that was poor effort from Evan Bouchard.
And it's just a bad look just watching a guy skate right in on
Stewart Skinner like that.
Rosie. And my fail of the week, if you can see, is
this man because of what he did to Barky. So whoever gives three, there's a big reward.
Yeah, that is my fail of the week.
All right, for those on DKN, we have
Atnan Virk coming on next.
You can watch that on YouTube.
You can log on to the LavaTard Show YouTube page
and click on Playlist and click on our show.
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All right we are joined by Adnan Burke. He is the studio host of Prime Monday Night Hockey and right
now I just want to start with this. We had John Ortiz.
Yeah.
We all know from Bad Monkey.
We've seen him in Carlitos Way.
He's been in everything.
He's been in everything.
He's been in so much.
Very good character.
You had Too Fast Too Furious.
Wasn't he the bad guy?
Yeah, he was in that movie as well.
Now he came on and he talked about Carlitos Way
and how he acted with Pacino.
He said that the channel had to
leave
to attend the nineteen ninety three
academy awards ceremony for the movies in nineteen ninety two
and he uh...
gave a trivia question to me well not just to me but to the entire levetor
show and this is how it sounded
the chino needed to fly to l a
uh... for the Oscars.
He was nominated for two that year.
Roy, go ahead and take your guess.
A scent of a woman.
Scent of a woman is what he has guessed.
And, but there's two.
Roy, he's trapped you because the difficult one
was not the first one.
You jumped into the breach.
You're like, I got it, Dan,
and then you had no number two.
Glenn, Gary Glenn, and Dan. And then you had no number two. Glenn Gary Glennon Ross.
Eh.
Good guess.
So he was wrong.
I was right.
And I have at Ant-Man Burke to confirm that.
Isn't that right, Ant-Man?
Roy, I'm screaming at my phone.
I'm like, no, Roy is right.
Roy is right.
I don't know a lot of things, fellas,
but I know Al Pacino in Oscar nominations.
He's at eight Academy Award nominations. And I vividly remember, excuse me, 1992, I got choked up on Al, finally, one percent
of a woman.
But I'm going to go see Glenn Garry, Glenn Ross this weekend.
It's my favorite play.
It's the third time I'll see him on Broadway.
It's amazing, Dave.
I saw it 15 years ago with Liev Schreiber and Alan Alda.
Oh my God.
Yeah, exactly.
I saw it seven years ago with Pacino playing Shelley Levine, which of course, is a Jack
Lemmon role, and Bobby kind of valley playing Ricky Roma. Now I'm getting Kieran Culkin as Ricky Roma,
Bob Odenkirk as the Shelley machine. And we get a little Bill Burr. But to Roy's point, I go,
no, that's absolutely right. I remember watching Siskel Ebert and Ebert kept saying he should win
for Ricky Roma. That's actually the better movie, the better performance, Mamet Pacino,
because everybody's going to win for Lieutenant Colonel Flank Slade. So I immediately text him,
like, hey, you're right.
He owes you an apology.
And I actually interviewed John Ortiz.
He's a great guy.
He's one of the few guys, fellas, that actually have his number.
So I texted Roy first to go, hey, you're absolutely right.
Dick Tracy is 1991, just to be clear.
And I texted John Ortiz.
Awesome job in the Leather Chair Show.
He's like, yeah.
He's like, hey, man, make sure you check out my baseball doc.
It'd be great.
And I wrote back, yeah, listen, I'm going to try and get you on MLB Network.
I didn't realize that this baseball thing going through the pipeline, as Jess mentioned
on that show, his son's name is Clemente.
But Roy didn't pull the trigger.
I want to then fall up and go, hey, just for the record, you were wrong.
Roy's right.
You owe him an apology.
And maybe you won't believe me, but then I can send a screenshot.
1993 Academy Awards.
Look, there's Al Nomi for best actor and there is for supporting actor.
I can even tell you that Gina Hackman beat him in 1992 for supporting actor.
Well, you got his phone number.
You still pull that trigger.
Roy.
But Roy, how do you do that with like...
Ethan, how do you do that in a delicate manner?
I don't know that well.
I want to say, hey, great job.
Would like to interview you.
By the way, you're wrong.
You owe Roy an apology.
Maybe just send him.
It's a tough spot.
I don't interact with celebrities very often, Adnan.
Send him this clip.
So I don't have much to say.
I am a celebrity, so what are you talking about?
No, Adnan, just send him this 60 second clip with no context and just see what he says. Great idea, Dave. celebrities very often so I don't have much to say. I am a celebrity so what are you talking about?
Adnan just send him this 60 second clip with no context and just see what he says.
Great idea Dave just give him no context.
I'm going to clip this for social send him the Instagram reel that we put out.
Yeah I had him on Twitter. Roy was right.
Adnan let's do a video where we go meet all the celebrities that we can.
Oh for crying out loud Rose. Let's do it. No, let's not do that.
I get a better idea, Adnan.
How about you and I do Broadway revival reviews?
Let's just...
Oh, the producers.
Yeah, go ahead and do that.
Adnan, I have one more...
It's called Now on Broadway.
David and Adnan, go check it out.
Let's go.
We have one more movie question for you before we get to hockey.
Roy claims to have never seen Toy Story or an episode of Friends.
Do you believe him? Listen, I'm with him on Friends. I've also never seen an episode or an episode of Friends. Do you believe him?
Listen, I'm with him on Friends.
I've also never seen an episode.
Way to go, Roy.
Have you never come across an episode just glancing across and
flipping it?
Oh, friends, I hate the show.
Keep going.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, I've come across.
I've not seen an episode.
I've not seen a scene of it.
I've seen 10 seconds, perhaps.
Okay.
Oh, there's Jennifer.
That's when she had the Rachel haircut.
Like, I know these things as a pop culture guy, but I'm like I don't
I know the Rachel cut. I know Schwimmer. I know uh, Matthew
I read Matthew Perry's book Rose because he's Canadian. So I read his book
So I know things about friends, but like I've never watched an episode of friends never more
Story, especially because Roy is a daughter and Toy Story is pretty epic Roy. I would get on it. It's it's a great great movie
What if I but what if I.
But we talked about earlier, normally sequels are not good.
There's a rare one that the Toy Story 3 might be the best
actually of the four of them.
Toy Story 3, magical ending.
One might say profound rose.
I like Toy Story 3.
Yeah.
Wait, wait, wait, real quick, real quick.
Just adding in, Seinfeld?
Love Seinfeld, Dave, without question.
That was my jam.
And listen, Dave likes it's like with sports.
You go, okay, I'm either Panthers or Lightning.
I go, no, I'm a Seinfeld guy.
If we're going to have two shows in the 90s,
must-see TV, all white cast living in New York City,
I'm taking Jerry and the friend over those friends.
I don't want those friends.
I'll take the reality, the realistic friends
over the ones that seem to, you know,
everybody's getting along.
They're fooling around with each other,
but it's not getting awkward.
No.
OK, so as part of the hockey club,
there's going to be a watch party. And you'll have to be part of the watch party
and we're gonna watch a friend's episode this far in life without doing it like
we'll make them watch the episode where the apartment episode no where the
apartment episode is that the episode no the one where they trade apartments it's
really funny that's the one that
Yes, it's funny. All right, we have talked entirely way too much anybody still here for hockey talk Just let's go into the Stanley Cup playoffs, please
All right
It's been a disaster for the Edmonton Oilers and I'm saying that fully
With the knowledge of the fact that the oilers came back on the Panthers in fourth game seven the previous Stanley Cup final I know they had the ability to
come back but right now it's just looking like Leon Dryside on Connor McDavid
their goal-tending the goal-taker is bad they can't protect the puck the defense
is terrible that's how it's been versus the Los Angeles and Los Angeles Kings
who for the fourth time a row are playing each other in the first round
will the All-Lits come back in the first round. Will the Ollies come back
in the series?
I don't think so Roy. Obviously, it's not going to be a sweep, but I think when you
take a 2-0 stranglehold on the series, generally speaking, it lights out. I know it's hockey,
things change, you go to home-mites, you can't call series, everything is played at home,
but this Kings team on paper, I called them to win in six, and you mentioned specifically
the reason why the Oillers back in. Without Atcomb, he's's such a difference maker without him for the first round of the playoffs. The
goal thing's never been airtight. I think Kemper's clearly an advantage there for Los
Angeles. And LA has more depth and consistency. It makes me think about the 04 NBA finals,
those great signs and the Pistons beat the Lakers. The Pistons of course had Ben Wallstrip,
Hamilton, Chauncey Billups, the Lakers had Shaq and Kobe. And the signs said, and I'm
not a poker guy, but a full house beats a pair of aces.
And that's what I think of with the Kings.
I go, hey, a full house.
They've got a talented team top to bottom.
That beats the pair of aces of McDavid and Dreisle.
And honestly, if LA doesn't win this series,
if LA's fourth straight year, like you said, Roy,
to be up two-oh, you might as well just go ahead
and cancel the franchise.
Just go ahead and move and just say, we're done.
If we can't beat these guys the fourth time in a row,
and this time with home ice,
and clearly feeling like the favorite, then it's's ballgame Luke Robitai's been fun
See ya, but I think they win. I think Jim Hiller is a good coach
I do not think they put their foot off the gas oilers win game three, but Kings in six. I'll say this
I'll say this last year when the Kings were down or the oilers were down to nothing and then down three nothing in the
Sanlake up final there were signs of life, right? Like there were good games.
They played good games, but the Panthers just kind of got them at the end of a
couple of those games.
There are no signs of life from the Oilers after game two, really.
Like game one, you saw McDavid, he wheeled his team back into it.
He had four points, but I just kind of think that in game two, you saw a shift.
Now there's a goalie controversy because they made the change for Pickard in game two, you saw a shift. Now there's a goalie controversy because they made the change
for Pickard in game two.
It just feels like there's not, this is LA's year.
It just feels like they finally have it right,
all the recipes this year.
This is their year to get out of the first round.
Mm-hmm.
By the way, Dave, to your point, I just saw a great documentary
with the Hartford Whalers.
And as Roy knows, having been at ESPN for nine years,
they lived in Connecticut the whole time there.
I'm like, God, I wish the Whalers were here.
There's no sports teams here.
But when the Whalers actually won a round,
as you guys know, they're in the Adams Division.
One year, John Forzen, who's the great play-by-play man
for Amazon Prime and was the voice of the Whalers,
they had the seventh best record in hockey.
They were only fourth in their division.
That's how good the Adams Division was.
They always lost the Bruins and the Habs.
The one year they actually won a round,
they held the parade. They won actually went around They held the parade
They held the parade in Connecticut
original Nashville Predators right there
All right in Toronto
There was a situation. It was a hullabaloo
There was a whole bunch of penalties that happened in the first round the first game of the first round and
Apparently the referee Garrett rank needed a little bit of help to list off all the penalties that
happened during the game. has two minutes for roughing and then Toronto number two eleven twenty five
seventy four and eighty nine have two minutes for roughing and then Ottawa forty three fifteen twenty two forty three and eighty one have two minutes for roughing. We're going to play four on four.
And it's been that way every throughout the entire series.
There have been a lot of penalties going on in that series.
So what do you think is going to happen?
Because it seems like the Maple Leafs have a stranglehold against the Senators right
now.
Well, kind of what Ethel was referring to there with the Oilers, like when you go down,
they haven't looked good.
For the Senators, what's frustrating is that two of these games have been overtime games.
It's not like the Leafs have choked the life out of them, and yet they have,
because now it's a 3-0 series.
So I really wish Ottawa had at least one of those games.
Again, if you don't have a dog in the race, I just want as much hockey as possible.
I called Sens in seven. I now look moronic, so I'm very annoyed at the Ottawa Senators
and their fan base and Brady Kachuck and all the rest of it.
But the big key here, guys, has been special teams.
I mean, you nailed it, Roy.
The fact that you mentioned the penalties, the Leafs are five for nine on the power play.
They have not had their big guns be well in the power play
in the past.
A heck of a pass by Mitch Marner in that game,
threw last night to Austin Matthews.
If your stars are clicking on the power play,
there's no way you're going to lose this game.
Jack Michaels is the voice of the Oilers.
I was asking about the Oilers power play
against the Kings in the playoffs the last three years
prior to this year.
It was over 40%.
Like, it's just a crazy number. And even Chris Knoblack had said to me a couple weeks ago,
it's going to come down to special teams. So it's always so valuable in the playoffs.
I think people often say, well, there's less penalties called. It's not as important. Well,
no, there's less penalties called. Yeah, but there's less goal scores. When you get the
opportunity, you got to make the most of it. The Leafs have. Ottawa hasn't shut them down.
Leafs up three-zip. It's probably going to be a sweep.
So I want to stay with this series for a second, Adnan, but something that happened off the ice
that I thought was kind of funny.
I wanted to get your take on it.
After the Leafs scored, and I think it was game one,
there was a shot of their bench celebrating.
The coaches were really into it, particularly Mark Savard,
the assistant coach, was fist pumping.
And then Craig Berubi kind of gave him
a little elbow to the chops and was like, hey, simmer down now.
Simmer down.
I don't really know what to think of this.
I never thought there was a big deal of coaches celebrating.
I mean, we've had Paul Maurice literally give Jamie
Compon a gut punch after Matthew Tichuc scored
the goal against Carolina a couple of years ago
in the conference final.
Do you think this is a thing that coaches
need to behave themselves, or is this more of a Barube,
like, his own kind of thing?
I think it's Barube's thing, and I love Chief. He's a great guy.
He's one of the biggest reasons why I think you like the Leafs to be different this year
because he's an iron willed hard-nosed coach that the players do enjoy playing for him.
He won the Stanley Cup obviously, you know, five years ago, the Blues.
So I think it's more Chief, old school disciplinary and I got no issue with it.
I like when the coaches get fired up.
David's one of my favorite shots when the team wins the Stanley Cup, that cut to the coach.
Of course, your guy's favorite, Paul Maurice, who doesn't love him. He's a
quote machine. He's a lovable guy. When they won, that shot of Moe pumping his fist and
fired up, I got emotional just seeing it. So I'm with you, man. When people are excited,
want to exalt, I don't care if it's game one of the playoff, but game three or it's game
seven. I think it's okay. And for coaches, I don't like this. Barry Sanders, hey, I could
have been there before. Like, it's okay. Be excited. You're the coach.
And I don't know if you saw this press conference
earlier this week, but Jim Rutherford
of the Vancouver Canucks, this was really interesting.
I wanna play the sound first,
and then I wanna get your reaction to it.
Fell down to money with him.
He said before he wants to play with his brothers,
and that would be partly out of our control, in our control, if we brought his brothers here.
So there's many moving parts here, I agree 100%.
This franchise cannot afford to lose a guy like Quinn Hughes.
And we will do everything we can to keep him here, but at the end of the day, it'll be his decision.
I love this awkward pause here
as everybody kind of sorts out what just happened.
Well, you gotta be careful with tampering here.
So we'll just leave it at that.
Careful with tampering.
What do we make of that and how hellish of an off season
is Quinn Hughes in for after his GM throws him under the bus like that?
Pretty big mess there, Ethan.
I mean, in Vancouver, it's amazing.
A year ago, their team that, hey, maybe they can push towards the LA Cup finally.
Had a great run.
Taki feels the right coach.
They've got star talent.
They've got a great goalie in Demko.
And then Demko's not healthy.
JT Miller and Elise Pedersen hate each other.
They trade Miller.
Pedersen stinks.
He's wildly overpaid.
11.6 million is outrageous. Doesn't feel like Rick Tocke wants to be the coach
there anymore. And then you got Jim Rutherford, who's press conferences all over the place.
And God forbid if they lose Quinn Hughes, fellas. I got to be able to watch him here
in Jersey with one of the games on Prime. And like the whole time, you're just drawn
to him. Your eyes are transfixed on him because he's so fast and so skilled. And then I watched
the Avalanche game the next week and got to see Cale McCarron person. So you cannot lose Quinn Hughes no matter what.
And if they lose him, I couldn't imagine what's already kind of a negative fan
base. Fellas in Vancouver would give you more pessimistic and more negative.
Jim Rutherford seems like he's almost running a rudderless ship.
I know he's had a lot of great things in hockey, but that was not a great look for him.
The New Jersey Devils and that series against the Carolina Hurricanes is over.
Like it was over before it even started.
I mean, like the Devils right now might as well be playing with casts and slings and
band-aids right now because they are so hurt.
If the Hurricanes gift them a game, it will be a gentlemen's sweep.
What do you think, Anand?
What do you think?
Well, they love the expression of gentlemen's sweep.
The other day somebody asked me, they go, does that mean if you lose the game one, they
get swept?
I'm like, yeah. They go, kind of like it. I'm like, yeah, underrated for that.
I'm with you Roy, on our podcast,
and it's all scripted, me and Jason Demers
were going through eight series, just as you guys did.
And when we got to Kane's Devils,
I told them, I couldn't care less,
you have one minute to discuss this.
He's like, what?
I go, I don't care.
I'm like, hockey fans care, I'm not gonna be watching it.
If the Knicks are playing, I'll watch the Knicks game instead.
I couldn't care less.
So I'm with you, Carolina's going to win.
The only thought Demers had was, oh, Marksman
can steal the game.
I'm like, nope, nobody cares.
They don't have their star players.
And the Jersey, the second half was a much different story
for Sheldon Keefe and his team.
Carolina will move on.
And they're a team that hasn't had playoff success,
as you guys know.
The thought with Carolina is always very good, not great.
Don't have a star player, can elevate.
They're going to beat the Devils.
And who knows what happens after that.
The news update just dropped. Just to make it worse for the devils, and who knows what happens after that. The news update just dropped,
just to make it worse for the devils,
neither Brendan Dillon or Luke Hughes
will play in game three tonight.
Well, you can count that as an L.
I'm excited for this though,
because the idea of like a big exciting game
in Montreal, playoff hockey with fans in the building,
which they didn't have on their last run
when they went to the final during COVID,
like this is for me, if there's an upset,
I want it to be here.
I want to see the Bell Center or
Sainte-Tribelle. Sain to see the Bell Center or... Santra Bell.
Santra Bell.
So stupid.
People who have actually been there can call it what it's called, Santra Bell.
Oh my God, dude.
All right.
All right.
Moving on.
Moving on here.
The New York Alley...
The thing is, point though, I agree.
Like, people ask me, they go, do people in America care about Canadian teams?
So if you like hockey, you like hockey.
Montreal's won 24 Stanley Cups.
It's a historic prestigious franchise,
and it's the best arena to go to.
If there's one game to go to, it is Le Saint-Tropez,
as Ethan is informing us.
He is saying it.
He is saying it.
Do we say Croissant, or do we say Croissant
whenever we order one, guys?
What are we doing here?
Finally.
How would the Cal Habs go?
Finally, and I said that the Yonlin is fired.
They did not fire him. They are not going to renew his contract.
They didn't fire him before his contract was over. Anyway, I'm sorry.
What are your thoughts on the islanders moving on from the team president slash general manager?
So, Lew's the kind of guy, Roy, like it's my way or the highway. It's really a lot of great things. Hall of Fame are obviously very important in terms of bringing Russian players
to the NHL, Slava Fetistov way back in the day.
In this instance, and I work with Thomas Hickey on Prime,
Thomas does like 70 Islanders games.
He goes lose the kind of guy,
like he's certainly disciplinarian and no beards
and all the rest of it, which is kind of outdated,
but whatever.
When he got there, they were a team that needed improvement.
He got that.
They had back to back Final Fours.
To me, that's impressive.
Lost to Lightning both times, the Lightning went on to win the Stanley Cup.
But now, I mean, that second half, I think the last 20
games was abysmal.
I don't know Patrick Wall wants to be the head coach there.
I don't know if he wants to be the GM.
He's done that before.
I thought I think that's different when you're the GM of
a junior team versus NHL teams.
Kind of like Nick Saban going to the NFL doesn't always work.
I asked Hicks to the players like Wall.
He said, I think they like him because he's Patrick Wall.
I don't know if he's a great coach.
But I think Lou is the kind of guy
like he just kind of runs its course.
What I'm fascinated by, does he go anywhere else?
I don't think I'm also going to give him the job.
He's in his early 80s, looks great for his job.
Is he an advisory type guy?
No, I think Lou kind of wants to be the job.
I don't think he wants to be like an advisor.
So I don't know what happens next for Lou Lamarello
and for the Islanders.
Another issue, Roy, their farm system
is terrible in Bridgeport.
They don't have any stars in that team.
So it's, I think, a little bleak right right now for Islanders to try to turn this thing around.
All right.
We still have Adnan to talk about the Florida Panthers in their series against the Tampa
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We return with Ant-Man Burke as we talk about the Panthers
and we go over the first two games of their series
against the Tampa Bay Lightning.
But before we do that, the entire threshold of the series,
we're gonna talk about this hit by Brendan Hegel
on Alexander Barkov, which was absolutely interference. And it was a right call on the series. We're going to talk about this hit by Brendan Hegel on Alexander Bonkoff which was absolutely interference and it was a right call on
the ice. They gave it a major so they could review it and that they did and
they decided to give it a major. They did not give it a game misconduct because
according to Dave Jackson who was on Twitter, he's usually the know-it-all
for the officials for ESPN. He said that it wasn't
apparent that there was an injury on the ice.
Poor Bart.
And that's why they didn't give Hagel a game of Skanduk. They just gave him a major and
the Panthers ended up with about 416 uninterrupted power play on that because it was a 4-4. So
that was the situation last night.
Alexander Barkov, we hope will be fine enough to play game three. Probably get an update here
in real time very soon. Paul Maurice is going to speak to the media as we record this pretty soon.
So by the time you're listening to this, you may already know. Hopefully good news on Barkov.
Go back to last year Roy during the Stanley Cup final when Barkov got lit up by Leon Dryside
at the end of game two. Panthers were up 2-0 in the series and
you and I were salty as hell afterwards. I was pissed. Because we thought okay we're
going back to Edmonton and they just lost their captain. Yeah. So hopefully he's
okay. Now we can play the video again because I want to show everybody why
this was interference. McDonough touched the puck, all right. Barkov did not touch
the puck he was going towards the the fetch the puck and the puck, all right. Barkov did not touch the puck, he was going towards the faster puck
and the puck was nowhere near him
and that's when Hagel ended up slamming him to the ice.
That was clear-cut interference.
The puck was nowhere near.
That was a nasty hit.
That angle right there from behind the net
where you can actually see how far away the puck was
and it was right in front of their field division,
that's not a good look for Hagel. It was right. This referee too.
Hagle's got a hearing today. Uh, and I'm curious if you think he'll, uh,
get a one game suspension here.
Yeah. My colleague in fact, Mike Johnson was fired up on NHL network.
And I thought he was great. You know, the first time I saw it guys,
I'm like, Oh, what a great hit. We all love great hits.
And then once Johnny explained it very carefully and it kind of the point that
Roy made, which is that he didn't bark up didn't touch the puck
That that is interference
Absolutely, and that kind of hit is just vicious and the more you watch it
It went from very quickly to oh what a great hit to like oh what a dirty play and Johnny made a great point again
I'm a chill out right
He said and that is absolutely a suspendable hit and he goes and I know it's a playoffs and you're gonna maim a guy to
Get suspended the playoffs and I know hagel's a great player and a great goal scorer, but that should be two games in the regular season.
That's one game in the playoffs. And Barkov, as you guys know more than anybody, is such an invaluable player.
He's always in the mix with the Selkie. He brings so much to that Panthers team.
I mean, this would be awful news if he's out for an extended period of time.
So I like the rough stuff and the physicalities.
When I see anybody, the first time I saw them, I'm like, oh, yeah, great hit.
Then I'm like, no, that is brutal and a dirty Cheap play by Hagel. He should know better the importance of
Barkov not being in the lineup if that happens, which hopefully
Will hopefully he will be in the lineup is the Panthers lost the best pillion a penalty killer
Well, they're number one center their best penalty killer best defensive forward their most arguably best offensive forward
I mean Sam runner. Yeah,, five player in the league.
Yeah. And you're going against a excellent power play with the Tampa Bay
Lightning.
Which the Panthers have done a great job of stifling so far and hopefully that
continues. Yeah. Thanks.
Yeah. I'll say if you lose that, that's,
that's an important piece that you lose on your penalty kill.
I'll say this.
A lot of the talk after the game is all the Panthers have got to go next game.
And if Hagle plays, they got to light them up or they got to go after Kuturov or
whatever. None of that. In my opinion, like as a Panther fan,
I want to see them play their game. Just like kind of last year,
Boston tried to muck things up after the whole Brad Marsh and Sam Bennett stuff.
You kind of just go out there, you play your game,
you win the game and you do your talking on the ice and you just be the bigger man. And I just want to see the of just go out there, you play your game, you win the game and
you do your talking on the ice and you just be the bigger man. And I just want to
see the Panthers go out there, dominate game three, win and basically put an end
to the series. These players have long memories. They will remember that hit and they will
take care of that next season. But for right now, there's bigger fish to fry.
You got to win this. We're trying to win a Stanley Cup here.
They don't take care of this in this season. It's the playoffs
So they're not gonna kick the guy
Situation I'm gonna I'm gonna make a moment Rose. They will take care of it
If he is a lightning player, they will take care of it next season
If he is not a lightning player, they will take care of it on whatever team they in the he ends up on
They will play them. They'll play them, they will take care of it on whatever team they end up on.
They will play them and they will take care of them then.
Before, thank you Rose.
Before we move on from this, Adnan, and thank you very much.
I was in a paraphrase the Mike Johnson sound because I couldn't find good enough quality of it.
I took it on my phone last night and I was in a paraphrase it.
But you did such an excellent job explaining how passionate he was. Thank you for that.
Another one of our hockey journalistic buddies out there, Brian Boucher, who was on the call
for TNT last night, he had some thoughts as well in the immediate moments after the hit.
I want to play that for you and just kind of get your take.
I was not a fan. get an edge at any moment and if you can remove a player from a series or a game
even if you have to come up with a five-minute kill
perhaps that's what Hagel's thinking and we'll see if his team can come up with the kill in this situation
Sounded like he was kind of advocating that coming up with like, oh, well, maybe
if this is what he was doing and I don't know, I just think putting those thoughts out into
the world in that moment is not the best thing.
Well, keep in mind, this was during a postgame.
It's not exactly what Boucher said, but Brad Marshawn kind of said the same thing when
Sam Bennett punched him in the face.
Now that wasn't what hit, that was not what injured him in that series. It was him running into Gajdjevic, but that's somewhat similar to what Brad Marshawn said
during that playoff series last season.
Listen, you can never advocate for vigilante justice, at least publicly, especially, and
I like Brian Boucher, Boucher does a great job, but I'm like, especially as an analyst,
I just, I don't think you can say that. I mean, I, I, I understand the theory that whatever you need to do to win, if you
need to take out their best player, you can, but there's a way to do that legally. There's
a way to do that illegally. And I wouldn't abide by doing it illegally. Yeah.
Let's talk about the actual series now. And the Panthers seem to have a stranglehold on it. Now a lot of the media pundits have picked the Tampa Bay Lightning to go six or
seven and take the series, which absolutely pisses me off.
Have you not seen Panthers the last two seasons?
Like, what are we doing here?
Why?
Like now granted, I did disrespect the lightning wondering why exactly they were here
But come on now, I mean this is a Panthers club that obviously is
One day I had four strength
Much better than the Tampa Bay Lightning and now they have a two-game lead on Tampa. So what do you see this series going?
I'm very proud Roy. I called the Panthers in six and obviously partial to you guys and partial to Paul Maurice
and the fact that they've made this down like a file back to back years.
I'm like, no, I said, I thought they're very smart and crafty and shrewd in terms of playing
time down the stretch that Mo realized, all right, I got to keep these guys healthy.
It's a marathon, not a sprint.
Let's do this the right way.
I did not expect a two-0 series lead, especially with both games, Emily Arena, but I'm thrilled
for the Panthers.
And again, Jason Burr said to me, we were all wrong. I'm like, who's we? He's like, well, everyone was picking the Lightning.
I go, I didn't. I called the Panthers in six. You can take your we and shove it.
Who's we? Yeah, as a royal we. I go, well, not me. I picked the Panthers in six. You can go check the tape on that.
So I think he means every analyst on ESPN was definitely calling the Lightning Roy. You're right.
Most of the media were not, but you and I called the Panthers.
To me, you're the champion until you get dethroned.
And the Lightning certainly have talent up in the lineup.
I'm well familiar with it.
I got Vasilevsky's exploits, but he wasn't good in game one.
I don't think he's going to steal this series.
And I don't think the Lightning can win four or five games against the defending
Stanley Cup champion.
Not going to happen.
Panthers in six.
I also said Panthers in six, Adnan.
And after that first game, you see the way the Panthers kind of dominate.
I mean, the score line was dominant, but I thought the play on the ice was pretty dominant as well.
Vasileski has an off game. And so after that game, I'm looking at it and I'm saying,
what makes Tampa fans feel like this could be a long series other than, oh, Vasileski is not going
to play like that the rest of the series? Well, he played pretty great last night. I thought he was phenomenal in
game two. He made some huge saves, bounced back after he let a soft one in
early to Nate Schmidt, but the Panthers still won that game and completely shut
down the offense. Nikita Kucherov, once again, nowhere to be found in this
series. It just feels like the Panthers kind of right now have the Lightning's
number after the last two seasons, right now have the lightning's number
after the last two seasons and now they're up 2-0.
They come home and they get Aaron Ekblad back.
This team hasn't been at full strength for two months since the Four Nations
when Kachuk went down, then they lost Ekblad.
Now Kachuk is back.
Ekblad is coming back in the lineup.
We'll see if they'll even be at 100% because we don't know if Barkov will be in the lineup.
It just feels like everything is going the Panthers way right
now. And if they were going to steal a game, it was going to
be that one last night.
They didn't steal it.
It's got to be disheartening for the Lightning.
And Ethan, the bigger turn in game one is, of course, Matthew
Kachuk. He's been out since his four nations.
And to come back with that kind of performance, two goals
to assist, great on special teams, hitting, banging.
I'm like, there's a reason why the Kachuks always bring
passion with us, Brady or Matthew. So I'm with you. I think Florida
was just, I wouldn't say crafty, but stealth. Again, Paul Maurice has been there before.
He knew what he had to do. Make sure the guys are clicking at the right time. Eckblatt offers
a severe emotional force. And yeah, his vast left scope, great goalie. Sure, he can win
a game to win a series. I don't see it.
I'm looking at the stats right now. 120 shot attempts for Tampa and just about 41 shots
on goal have gotten to Sergei Bobrovsky. The Panthers have been blocking shots on this
entire series. They have 38 blocked shots. Like the defense has been stifling and they have been
blocking shooting lanes and that's pretty much why you haven't seen Kuturov because he's not getting any good looks.
Everything's been coming from the wings.
Nothing's been coming from in front of the net.
Even when they have dangerous chances, it's kind of not really right in front of the net
and Bobby's not having to do anything too difficult.
Penalty for time.
Yeah, we went over.
We went over where I want to actually go, so we're going to wrap up here.
And, man, thank you for joining us. You can find him as the studio host on Prime Monday Night Hockey.
Thank you, Adnan.
Roy Davies, thank you so much. Rose, you have an ultimate question for me.
We're going to do that, Rose. Come on.
Yes, I have the ultimate question even if it doesn't go on the show.
If they tell you that you can only talk hockey or movies, which one would you choose?
Oh, man. I mean, it's always you choose? Oh man I mean it's
always a funny question but I answer it this way Rose I'm not a film critic who
happens to like sports I'm a sportscaster who happens to love movies so
the answer is hockey. Well can you watch hockey movies or does it like what's the
cross over there? He can watch hockey movies but he can only talk about one one of them okay. I thought Adnan's answer was gonna be
baseball. Can you believe?
Ethan, that's the right answer.
There you go.
Ed and Anne, can you believe that none of the people
in this building have seen Mystery Alaska?
Oh, God.
I saw it on Mystery.
What are you talking about?
I saw it.
Except for Roy.
Thank you.
Sorry.
I knew Roy would definitely have his bonafide.
So come on, Mystery Alaska, Russell Crowe,
and our friend Steve Levy.
We gotta get on that.
Okay, how about this?
We'll do this.
Watch Party for Rose and Ethan to watch Friends,
but we have to watch Mystery Alaska first.
And then Roy and I can find a way to leave.
OK.
Amen.
Let's do that.
And also, last question.
Did you watch Marvelous Mrs. Maisel?
I love that show, Rose.
Yeah, I don't watch much TV, but I loved it.
Because I love the 50s.
I love that music.
I love that era.
I love Tony Shalhoub and everything he's in.
So yeah, Rachel Brosnan was amazing.
That's why I loved it.
Oh, beautiful.
There's a show that is from the creators of them.
Yes, out of ballet, competitive ballet.
I read about that.
Have you watched it?
I haven't.
To be honest, again, I like the genre.
So 50s comedy Shalhoub.
I don't believe any of that is involved with this show.
So I'm probably not going to see it unless you tell me it's that good.
I recommend it.
What I'm feeling right now is what Rose probably feels during our entire
Sitting in front of a microphone I have nothing to add I have no idea what's going on
Yeah, this must be what Rose feels like
Alright so for Adnan Burke for Rosie for Ethan for David Dwork for Mike and
Jason my my name is Roy Bellamy.
Bye."
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