The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - THE MARLINS PULLED THEIR PITCHER WITH A PERFECT GAME? | Local Hour

Episode Date: July 6, 2026

"81, 82, 83, 84, 85... 98, 99. 100." Zaslow is old-timey sports radio angry about the Marlins manager, Clayton McCullough, taking out starter Eury Pérez after 7 innings of a Perfect Game. Was he right to do it? Plus, after the miraculous World Cup match between Argentina and Cabo Verde, we have the Top 5 Matches in 'Miami Stadium' History. And what uniform numbers does UM Football have the most famous player for? Today's cast: Dan, Zaslow, Roy, Chris, Jeremy, and Mike. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah, that's right. Felt like I was going back into the 80s and 90s when people got pissed off at a manager. When I'm pretty sure he just has to come out and be the face. Clayton McCullough has to be the face of an organizational decision. He's a total middle manager who gets all of the heat and hatred for pulling a starter with a perfect game after seven innings because he's thrown a few over 90 pitches. Grow a pair. I mean, Marlins won a World Series because he had a guy who went with his gut. And Josh Beckett went out there in game six on short rest and won your World Series with a shutout because the manager went with his gut.

Yeah, but playing the A's in July isn't quite a world series and this is a young arm coming off of them. 92 pitches. God, it's not a hundred ninety two. But it's a young arm coming off of injury. It doesn't matter to you that he's making like his third start off of injury. You say that as if you believe if it was his tenth start coming off injury, they wouldn't have done the same thing. Well, baseball's different now and you either accept it or you howl at the moon because it's not going to change. This is how they do things now in July.

They're protecting precious arms. I don't know why they're protecting. I'm watching the rays got Drew Rasmus, and he had. two Tommy John surgeries while he was in college. Like, I don't know why they're protecting any of the arms, but they are protecting the arms. And it seems like Uri Perez has learned how to pitch because he's no longer walking people. Like, the guy's got filthy stuff, but he just walked everybody.

And now he's throwing in the zone. But you find yourself what level of mad? Because for you to summon outrage when the Marlins are the best team in baseball, since the beginning of June, and for this to be what gets on your radar, because it's hard to get on the sports radar this month. It's been a little bit crazy with everything happening, hockey, and baseball deciding championships, the World Cup. We have not talked about the fact that the Marlin, since the beginning of June, have the best team in baseball. They just ransacked the A's. You're right about that part, but in a 162 game season, give me a few things throughout the

course this summer that I can get excited about. And when I see through five innings that Uri Perez, because I don't have the Marlins on every day, but when I see through five innings that Yuri Perez is perfect, and then I put it on one of the TVs, not the big one, Dan. Let's get serious here.

I put it on the small TV. What was on the big one? I was watching House of the Dragon. And I mean, this new season, it's all through a really good start, Dan. Like, do you do you? Do you? I don't want to give up any spoilers, but holy shit, the queen is back.

Zaz just touched on the real tension in all of this. This has nothing to do with the actual McCullough taking out the pitcher. You know what happened yesterday? It's the people that have been paying attention to the Marlins, getting mad at all the people who aren't paying attention to Marlins, swooping in and being outraged at Clinton McCullough. So that's what it was in the group chat. It was, you haven't been, this is B.

He should fire up. Well, you haven't watched two games this year. I've been watching all year. That was the tension yesterday. One of those people was Billy Gill who immediately fired. That guy. Fired Clayton McCullough. That is his lane in his defense.

He's been on that beat for a while. Just fired Clayton McCullough yesterday, four, like, for taking him out after the seven, seven perfect endings. Do you know how many perfect games there have been in the history of baseball? Yes. Because I, in the 90s, it was 15. What's the number now?

24. Every Marlin fan knows this morning. That's just brutal. Oakland. is almost totally dead as a baseball town. A's fans haven't been heard from in decades, but yesterday they were disgusted with the Marlins. They're saying shame right now.

Yes. So what they used to do to the Salem witches, they're just dispensing shame not on Uri Perez, but on Clayton McCullough. I've got this right, right, Jeremy. you're around the team all the time. That's not a Clayton McCullough decision. He's got to take it on the chin, but he's just the middle manager executing what the front office wants there, correct? Yeah, these are discussions that happen between the front office and the manager and the rest of

their coaching staff going into the game. It's however many ups, it's however many pitches. And we have sound of McCullough where he says, I had to plan today. It was 90 pitches plus a batter. And it just seems like, all right, you made that exact decision. You can't adjust slightly. I feel like you could adjust slightly, but. I have said before, and you've heard me say before, I don't understand the point of having judges if all they're going to do is follow the letter of the law. I want my judges to show judgment. I want them to be arbiters who decide difficult things outside of the letter of the rule.

But let's hear from McCullough here explaining why he pulled Yuri Perez, who was on his way to possibly the 25th perfect game of all time. Keep in mind. the perfect game is rarer than the World Cup in the history of baseball. Like it doesn't, on average, it happens less than once every four years. Here's McCullough explaining why he took Perez after 90 plus pitches. Clayton, obviously a wild win. We'll start with Yuri today after 7 perfect.

Just went into the decision to take him out. I mean, going into this game, like 90 plus a batter was a pitch count that I felt comfortable with him. Coming back off the time on the IL. and us looking to play beyond the regular season, you know, Uri's going to be an important part of that. So, yeah, I mean, he had it really going today. And I totally get it. And there was a part of my heartstrings pulling at, you know,

his opportunity to keep on going. But I think I have to think about Uri, one, and our organization, our team and what's best moving forward to give us a chance to continue to win games. So, you know, made it more of a calculated decision with where he was with the pitch count. to take him out.

All right, if you're actually going to think about Yuri Perez, you would have left him in, all right? Because Yuri Perez definitely wants to have a perfect game and definitely feels like I can throw a few more pitches than 92. At the very least, Dan, throw him out there in the 8th inning. How do you know you don't have an immaculate inning? Maybe it's three pitches. Three pitches he gets out, and now he's just three outs away.

Let him go out there, see what can happen at the start of the 8th inning. And instead, no, no, no, no. I mean, my heartstrings, my heartstrings really want me to do it, but instead I'm not. I've got a couple of things here. First, an Immaculate inning, I believe, is nine pitches. You strike out people with nine. Whatever. You called it the Immaculate inning.

It's not three pitches. Well, put it on the poll at Levitard show. Should the Immaculate inning be three pitches instead of nine pitches? The other thing I wanted to mention, heartstrings, what are those arteries? Like, what are heart strings? Can someone tell me what heartstrings are? And then this is the most amazing part, and we're just skipping past it. That dude just mentioned playoffs.

Like, that dude just talked about his number two starter in the playoffs, and it's not Asinon. Like, it's not, what he is saying is not Asinon, because the lowest payroll in baseball is that team is playing out of its minds as they've lost six times since the beginning of June. No, but it is Asinine because we're going to look back if the Marlins make the playoffs. And again, huge if. I know they're tied for the final spot right now. like 23 and 9 since the beginning of June.

But you're telling me we're going to look back at the Marlins qualifying for the post. He's like, thank God Yuri Perez didn't go in the eighth inning, you know, that game that he could have had perfect, you know, thank goodness. The Marlins have had some live arms. Like they're allowing Ryan Weathers to figure out whether or not he's going to grow into a power arm top of the rotation guy somewhere else because he never figured out here how not to walk people. But it seems like Perez has figured this part out.

It's a small sample, but he's just, he throws such a heavy baseball in the zone. Like, it reminds me of Kevin Brown like six or seven miles an hour faster, like, because he's just throwing such, he's throwing a shot put up there that is really hard to hit hard when it's in the zone. And all he's got to do is keep it in the zone. He's a really strong-armed, live-armed pitcher. And by the way, you know what's frustrating, too? like, I don't want to hear, I don't want to hear people say, oh, but it was the right move.

It was the right move because the Marlins, not only are trying to save Yuri Perez, but they're trying to win the game. Well, if you're trying to win the game, it was not the right move. Because through seven innings, the Marlins didn't allow a base runner, and then the next two innings, they gave up eight runs. So it was actually not the right move. I need to point that part out, too, okay, as absurd as the manager of the Marlins sitting here in July saying, yeah, I've got to save him for the postseason, as absurd is this,

the conversation today about the Marlins is how could you take out a pitcher who had a perfect game in a 9 to 8 game like that game ended 9 to 8 because as soon as they took him out every reliever that got brought in and got his nipples on fire and ran to the dugout scared while A's fans chanted shame at them like if it was Salem and the 1700s so stop telling me it was the right move because if the Marlins only scored seven runs you lose a game that you were perfect through seven innings. So it's not the right move. Meanwhile, I've got Mike Ryan has gone totally off of

the deep end here. He's going to Atlanta. He's immersed in World Cup in a way that I don't believe is totally healthy for him because it's not to skew his perspective. He's about to go to Atlanta, upset that he's getting messy in the game. He wanted

Cabo Veda instead of messy. He's bothered that he's going to Atlanta tomorrow to see Leonel Messi play soccer. It's not the person he wanted in that game. I'm glad we're finally getting around to what was one of the biggest spectacles in the history of sport, and I'm not even talking about what happened last night. It would have been the biggest upset ever.

Cabo Verde played so frigging well against the world champions. For my money, when you apply the context of where they are and FIFA World Rankings, their nation's footballing history, the best player in the world against guys who are literally unemployed right now, presently this was, I'm still swept away in what I saw Friday at Hard Rock Stadium between Cabo Verde and Argentina. That was such a great story. Everybody, even if you openly had disdain for soccer, stopped by the television and understood what was on the line, what the story was, and everybody was rooting for Cabo Verde. It's hard to explain to people. You've got not just the defending World Cup champions, you've got Messi who's still playing the best soccer in the

in a tournament that still has most of its stars outside of the folks who play for Brazil. And it's really struggling against a team that was a two and a half goal underdog, which you rarely see this late in the tournament, a two and a half goal underdog with a 40-year-old goal goalie in Wozina, who is being given by his country, which is smaller than the population of Wyoming, a home, a Rolls-Royce, worth half a million dollars. a statue and also, and I don't know what this means exactly, because once you've given him the home, lifetime free accommodations, does that mean that he can go in any house in the country and just sleep on a bed in there?

It's not just hotels. He's going to be sleeping in plenty of strangers' beds. How does this work, though? Your 40-year-old goalie who has just become a sensation, started the tournament with how many followers? 40-something thousand. And now has nearly 20 million followers because this game, is amazing and the world is interested.

As of this morning, by the way, it's up to 27. So the 40-year-old goalie gets fallen in love with in a way that makes Mike regret that Messi's playing in the game that he's flying to Atlanta to see tomorrow. I would have traded all four matches that I've either attended or I'm going to attend in this World Cup to have said I was in that building for that second goal that Cabo Verde scored, an absolute worldie. and Cabo Verde played so well down the stretch too. They made so many pushes.

They came so close. Everyone, like I said, understood the storylines going into that. Argentina looking so relieved at the end because they barely got across the line against a bunch of people that no one knows. It was just, dude, this is why we do it. This is why we do it. Anybody can understand that storyline was incredible. Outside of the final between France and Argentina, when you apply all the context and In the drama, that's the second best World Cup match I think I've ever seen.

Well, let's talk for a second about the way that you have thrown perspective aside by saying it might have been the biggest sporting event of any kind played in South Florida. World Cup tickets all over the place are going for an average cost of $4,400. The experience in what is being called Miami Stadium, I had a funny incident. I'm going to call it an incident the other day where some people who were in town for the World Cup game went up to some people I know with their tickets and they're like, where's Miami Stadium? And the answer to that was you've got fake tickets. There is no Miami Stadium. Miami Stadium is something we had as a minor league part in the 1970s because FIFA won't allow it to be called Hard Rock Stadium. So they've just named it Miami Stadium.

But there's no such thing as Miami Stadium except for this tournament. It has to be an unpleasant experience there just because those players were all cramping at the end. This is unreasonable weather to be playing this intensity of games late. It's a crazy thickness, a soup of humidity that is you had players cramping all over the place late in that game. And it was cooler than it was in Philadelphia. I was in Philadelphia for France, Padawai. Second hottest I've ever been at a sporting event in my entire life behind at Gainesville. to open up the season a couple of seasons ago.

That was insane. It was 140 degrees on the field. I was there with a 6-year-old. It was sweltering. Dan Levitar. For five minutes, I was watching everyone just like, nope, not letting you in, not letting you in. So when I got up there, I had to say something, and I said it. Cheaters never prosper.

Chris Cuddy. My buddy was saying, not today. Not today. I think that was what he was adding. Yeah, that would have been better. I'm telling you, the response I got from this guy, what I said was amazing. He got him. Sheaters never prosper.

This guy yelled as angry as he could. I cheat. This is the Dan Levitare show. Where are you on Mike saying? Because I don't believe that this will stand the test of time because Cabo Verde didn't win the game. I don't believe it will go down historically as one of the best things to ever happen in South Florida sports history. But Mike is making the argument on behalf of this being one of the biggest things to ever happen in South Florida. Florida went. I thought Columbia, Portugal was supposed to be that a week earlier. And here you are

with just a really unknown soccer team challenging the defending champions right until the end of that game. Dan, it's funny that you mention that. I have a top five games ever having taken place at Miami Stadium. Wow. So it's just that stadium. It's not all of South Florida. It's just in that stadium. Just there. Okay. So what do we have to choose from? We have some Marlins baseball to choose from. We have some University of Miami football to choose from, and we have some dolphins to choose from. Got a lot of great stuff here to choose from.

But this, the top five list only has five. Okay. So yes, there's a lot of things. Some things I had to not include. All right. You ready? Yes. I got OI.

All right. Let's go. What is? It sounded like there was no L in there. OOI. It sounded like that you just sort of swallowed the L. All right. Keep up, Dan.

All-eye first. Marlins, Yankees, Game 5, 2003. World Series. A 6-4 Marlins extra inning win, Alex Gonzalez with the walk-off home run. Braden looper getting out of a bases loaded no-out jam against the Yankees. What a night. The Cabo home run against Clemens. Make your own list. It's a part of your list. Another all-eye.

That's in your list. Literally that game. He's giving you details from that game. Why can't he give... Why does he have to make his own list? Why can he give you details from that game? Oh, wait. That was game four.

I forgot about that. All right. All I, 23, Miami Open. That's right. 2023, Miami Open. Women's final. You know about that Petra Kitova versus Elena Rabakina? That's right.

7-6-2. Katova 1. Very long. The tie break. was 16 to 14. Longest in Miami Open history. That's right now. And Rivakina came in on a 13 match win streak. Huge upset. Huge upset, Dan. All right. More, I got a couple more OLLI. 2024, Cop America final. Argentina won Columbia Zero. You know about that's fans sneaking in and climbing it through the air vents like John McLean and Diehard? That can't be in your list.

Oh, I got an email to join a class action lawsuit about that, Matt. considering it? Well, my experience was fine. I'm not joining it. I got one more OLLI. Super Bowl 23. That was in 1989 for those you keep in track. 49ers beat the Bengals 20 to 16.

You may remember infamously, Dan. That's where Joe Montana got in the huddle on the eight-yard line under two minutes and said, hey, there's John Candy before calling to play in the huddle. That is a true story. He looked into the stands. They were on the eight-yard line. They needed a game-winning drive. he was so relaxed.

Cool Joe was so relaxed that he pointed out that John Candy was in the stands. Number five, top five games at Miami Stadium. I should have said Joe Cool, not Cool, Joe. I was dyslexic about his nickname. In 2000, the last time the Miami Dolphins won a playoff game. The Lamar Smith game, 23 to 17 win in overtime. It wasn't on television.

You had to be there. Over the Col. Literally, you had to be there. only way that you could watch it. It was blacked out locally because it wasn't a sellout. It's the last time that the Miami Dolphins won a playoff game. Well, what a game it was. That's crazy to say.

That was 2001. What, 2000. Oh, my God. What a game it was. Number four, Marlins, Giants, Game 4, 2003, NLDS, Padreggis. He holds on to the ball for a 7-6 win. First time. in baseball history that a series ended with a play at the plate.

And Pudge Rodriguez, he's holding up the ball to the crown, says, I got the effing ball right here. That's right. Jeremy, I don't know what you're doing. You weren't even alive. All right. I was there. 2003, that's number four.

Number three, WrestleMania 28. Once in a lifetime, rock versus scene. The rock! He won, and the crowd went wild. I heard Eric Andre talking the other day about the new show on Netflix that he's doing with Sina. This can't be true. Is he joking when he says that John Sina learned Mandarin just for fun and is a classically trained pianist? Is he just doing comedy there, or is that true? I don't know about the penis part, but the Mandarin part is definitely true because he's told the story before.

WWE and like their benefits package for their wrestlers, they will sponsor you to go learn a language and he did it. So you think John Sina has a classically trained penis. That's what you think that I just said. How would that work? Would it wear a tuxedo? Like what would be a penis that was classically trained? Put it on the poll.

Is a classically trained penis definitely uncircumcised? Yes or not? know. And Jeremy, get to me on heartstrings, please. I want to know why they're called heartstrings that are being pulled on. Number... I'm looking for it. Hold on on heartstrings. There's no... The origin is in the 1500s, but there doesn't seem to be a real reason outside of tying it to like the hamstring or they used to call the heel string, the Achilles, but it's not a real thing. It's possible that they didn't know how to name arteries back then, so they just called them strings. Number two! I thought that was number two.

No, that, keep up, man. Number two, Argentina survives. No. What do you mean, no? Did you watch the game? Did you watch the game? It was one of the greatest sporting events I've ever seen. Better than Pudge holding on to the baseball.

Yeah, yeah, you goofs easily. The second goal! What are we doing? Cape Verde had an entire nation scared. They were scared. scared. Messy had to score a goal and get an assist the game winner. He's the best player in the world.

Had to be the best player to beat a bunch of electricians. It's unbelievable. Like while you're watching the game, I was on ESPN at the time, like watching it live on the air, giving updates. And I'm like, there's something, something's happening here. Even when the game was just one-one. It's like we're watching something, something's going on. Well, that is accurate. Something was happening and it's just something that ended up not happening.

Your take on this is garbage. I can't wait to see where Stephen A has it on his A list. And finally, number one, the greatest match that ever took place at Miami Stadium. The End of an Era. Dan, you know about that end of an era? WrestleMania 28, Hell in a Cell, Triple H versus Undertaker. You know about that false finish? You know who the referee was for that one?

Heartbreak kid. Did you forget about it? about game seven of the World Series and extra innings? No, it wasn't good enough. Just like the national championship game that just recently happened. Just not good enough to crack OLLI. Told you. It's a great list.

Make your own list. So two things from WrestleMania 28. Yeah. Separately make the list. Yeah, it was an incredible card. Did you watch the end of an era? No. We got a whole bunch of people weighing in on this that didn't watch end of an era.

Jeff Kohnine had to reach home plate from left field. It's a miracle! Triple H had the sledgehammer in his hand as the triangle choke is going. I think Jeremy's point here is, WrestleMania 28 should have just been one of that. No, no, it had two great all-time matches. No, yeah. It's not top five greatest cards at Miami State.

Events. It's top five matches. Daniel Bryan, losing inside of four seconds, didn't even make the cut. Nope, not even close. Game 7 of the World Series decided an extra innings can't go behind two WrestleMania matches. Did you watch the matches? No, no, no. Did you watch the matches?

Because for many, Triple H versus Undertaker, end of an era, inside hell and a cell, refereeed by Sean Michaels is the greatest WrestleMania match ever. Dan, what should I have knocked off the top five? Don't do the thing where it's like, oh, so-and-so got snubbed. He should have been an All-Star. Tell me who should not have been an All-Star?

You could have just said WrestleMania put it in there as one event and then made room for Game 7 of the World Series. Well, WrestleMania was at Madison Square Garden in 1985. I'm talking about WrestleMania 28. That was in Miami Stadium. Thank you for the clarifications. Dan Lebatar.

I've never stepped foot on that camp. If you told me right now, your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture. Jonathan Sasselow. I would die. I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Levita show. Before we go any further, this is something I wanted to mention last week and we never got to it because just sports are going crazy right now. But for those of you who are not paying attention to college football in the offseason, everyone is noticing what Miami is

doing in recruiting. On average, according to rivals, they've got the best recruiting class. It's technically number three overall, but on average, they are getting better recruits than everyone else. They're taking Georgia's recruits and LSU's recruits and Oregon's recruits. Their top, their receiving room was considered top 10 just because Malachi Tony is in it, and they're the only top 10 receiving group that has improved from what it is that they were. The way people are talking about who Miami's getting Zaz is top of the class, top of the class. It's the Alabama recruits back when Nick Saban was dominating college football. Everyone is noticing that the thing has not merely been turned around. What you're getting now is the best of the best. Nobody's out

recruiting Miami. So two things. Number one, shouldn't this be? how shouldn't this be how it always is moving forward? Like we should always be in this conversation. And number two, why should, like this is what it should be forever with Christopal as the coach. It sounds like number two was exactly like number one. Pretty similar.

It seems like you forgot what number two was after you said number one. If I could be perfectly honest here, I'm a little bit, I'm a little bit shook because I regret not having the game seven. add it to the OLA or do it like Greg and put it at number two and just I'm a little bit I don't normally get like this

I'm a little bit embarrassed normally I'm very confident what was your second point gonna be because you said number one and then you said number two and number two would always be like this and number one is with Christobal he should do this more no he said exactly the same thing

he just threw in Christabel it was the same thing because he forgot what number two was have you now remembered what number two was or you still don't remember I don't know what number two was. No, I think they were the same, but because I said them differently in my head, it made me think they were different. Everyone forgot, we said cool Joe. Hey, that's me.

Hey! I just am embarrassed. So you forgot, you're admitting now publicly that you simply forgot an extra inning game seven of the World Series. There's only been one of those played in Miami ever. It's the first championship I ever saw. in my life. Well, not professional level. Either way, it has.

I agree with both your points. So, Mike, you have noticed, right, the people who are talking about college football will not shut up about the recruits that Miami is getting. Now you have proof of concept. You were literally in the national championship game, a drive away from winning. Mario Cristobal has done a lot of good recruiting, especially in the portal. He should always do this. He doesn't get enough credit for his evaluations and his development,

because our best player right now was a three star. Ruben Bain was a four star famously because of the measurable didn't make it to five stars. So they've developed guys. Guys that have come in, Markelle Bell makes an NFL career out of himself. Coincidentally, with a new NCAA rules that give you all five years. No matter what, you get it in, no more medical red shirts.

Markelle Bell would have come back to Miami had this ruling happened beforehand. Now we're rolling. Or as Greg Cody would say, we're rolling now. We're rolling now. You have a good team, which was the only thing that was really key. keeping Mario Chrysible out of the game for the elite talents. Now they want to matter? You want to be featured on the game of the week? Hell, if Miami and Notre Dame handle their business, that's going to be dubbed Game of the Century type of hype. Now you come to Miami to

play the big games. A huge advantage for Mario Chrysabal. Now he doesn't have to sell people on a vision. He sells people on the present. Malachi Tony was not a five-star recruit. Malachi. He was considered somebody who was undersized. I saw that ESPN came out with its list of most famous college football uniform numbers of all time, and there were five hurricanes on the list. You guys want to take some guesses on the five all-time uniform numbers that have been worn by Miami. That's one. Michael Irvin was one of the five.

Go ahead. How many more do you think you can get? They can get them all. You think you can get them all? 47. Yeah, yeah, you can't count that one twice. Try twice. That is also correct the same way it was the first time that you said it.

Do you want to guess another? Are you just going to keep guessing 47 five times? I'll try some others. All right, what else you got? 11. No. 15. No.

18. No. 26. No. How? Wait, 26. No? No.

Sean Taylor's a no. 22. No. Number one's supposed to be special in Miami. Is number one on there? No. Eight. No.

Five. Fifty-two. Yes. 52 is on there for Ray Lewis. You've got, you're doing very poorly here, Zazas. As is someone who thought he was going to get all five. Well, you've gotten more than five wrong already. No.

But I'll get all five. No. Eighty-seven. No. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. Eighty-one. No. No. Eighty-nine. No.

Ninety. No. Ninety-one. No. Ninety-four. No. No. No.

Not 94. That was Dwayne Johnson's. No. 96. No. 97. No. 98. No. 99.

No. 100. No. 47. Yeah. Yes. 47. We've established.

You've gotten three. So far you've gotten two right and 170 wrong. Do you want to keep trying or do you want to give up? No, 26 is nuts. Am I too close to that? Because I think Sean Taylor is one of those stories that transcends even Miami. I believe. that Sean Taylor

obviously had the reputation where Miami people knew who he was while he was in college, but he wasn't even the best safety, the University of Miami, has had while in college. That was Ed Reed, who was the best safety while in college, and that number

is not retired. That is not one of the all-time numbers. You are still missing three. I will give you the clue of they are all interior linemen on the offensive and defensive line. Odd or even? all two of them are even

one of them is odd all interior linemen so who do you have 60 no 61 no 62 no 63 no no 64 no 65 no 66 no 67 yes nice do you know who that is the guy it is the guy it is indeed the guy it is somebody who is the guy number 60 sure go rasha is willie

Russell Maryland. That's the tough one to get on the list. Do you want to keep going? Yes. Go ahead. 68. No. 69. No. 70. No. 71. No. 72. No. 73. No. 74. No. 75. No. 76. Yes. Nice. Do you know who 76 is? Yes. You going to tell us? Walking Gonzalez It's Warren Sapp You got one more on the list 78 Correct You skipped over 77 bravely Told you I knew

So who is 78 Do you remember who 78 is Martin Biblis It's Bryant McKinney Who Still one of the most amazing stats Ever given in the history of sport Never allowed a sack in college

In a game or in practice like that that part never allowed a sack in practice i i simply don't believe it's true they keep saying it's true mckinney swears it's true i don't believe it's true i don't believe that he didn't have one bad day at practice where he allowed a sack by mistake i'm picturing like his senior year one gets by and he's just like nobody saw that it's just it can't be true can it do you do you think it's possible like that jonathan ogden are one of these guys who was just so much bigger than everybody else that do you actually think it's within feasible logic that somebody never allowed a sack ever in practice? How high? Brian McKinney was

taken middle of the first round, correct? He was, was Brian McKinney was a, he was he? Was he? Top 10 pick, got to be. Yeah, I think so. I think it was top 10. Regardless. Somebody guess the number? That is, that, yeah, you can, sure, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, You can guess. 47. Yeah, that's in the middle of the second round. Where was Bryant McKinney taken?

Seven. Okay. So nothing yet on heartstrings, though. It's strange that no. I've been looking and looking and looking, and I cannot find anything else. There are no butterflies in the stomach either, just getting down in front of that one.

When you talk about, there are some stuff in the World Cup and around the World Cup that I do want to get to, especially considering the rare instance of everything that is surrounding the United States team and the game that they play tonight. Biggest game in 20 years. The president of the United States getting involved to overturn a reportedly a red card suspension that now makes it so that Boligan is in a situation where he has had his ban suspended for a period, a probation. period of one year, okay, which is funny, right? Because there's just a month left of games. And so his ban, he was banned and suspended, and then they lifted the ban, but Belgium is mad. Belgium is mad. And they are appealing it. But it is the rarest of things that has happened here.

Two wrongs, make it right. It has happened. I haven't seen it happen before. We're two wrong. He shouldn't have been suspended. You cannot suspend somebody for games that are once every four years unless it's super egregious, unless someone's got a hatchet and has dismembered somebody. Like, you cannot. The games are too important. It's got to be really egregious and sort of above argument. So he never should have been suspended.

And obviously, the president of a country shouldn't get involved, host country, shouldn't get involved to overturn something like this because now everyone's rooting against the United States. It's not that they weren't rooting before against the United States, but now they're really rooting against the United States. Because this is indecent in terms of fair play, but two wrongs end up making it right because he should play in the game. Like, he should not be out of the game. But for it to come down about 24 hours away from the match, it was really unfair to sportsmanship. And I understand why Belgium and UEFA are fighting this tooth and nail. They can still appeal something.

they had the deadline that I think it expires at 8 a.m. Well, just expired at 8 a.m. I thought it was 5 a.m. today. Yeah, Pacific time. So. You know, time zones work? I think Balligan's got to play, which is, I mean, great for the United States. And yeah, when you get down to the heart of it, he shouldn't have been out in the first place,

especially to miss the following a match. The probationary thing means that if he gets another straight red at any point during that probationary period, he'll get suspended double the amount, so two game suspension there, which again, FIFA is making the rules up as they go, because I was talking to a lot of plugged-in people. The impression was at first that the United States could appeal it, and then they couldn't appeal it because it wasn't given an initial two-game suspension. And then they point to Article 27, which, if interpreted a certain way,

gives them the power to do this. Meanwhile, New York Times has confirmed the White House did reach out to FIFA. FIFA pushed back on that, said it was all done through an independent Council. No one believes them. All in Europe agrees that this isn't the way that you go about it. I do think optics matter. But the funniest optic we can all agree out of all of this is Donald Trump was acting on behalf of a birthright citizen. Because it gave me 20 years. Let me just make sure I'm following. So he was suspended. The suspension was suspended. And now Belgium has the opportunity to suspend the suspended suspension. Correct. Because it gave me 20 years.

For the United States, it's incredibly huge. And I think the odds have reflected this. The market price on the DK Sports app has certainly reflected. Baligan, who's been really huge for the United States of America, gets into threatening positions, been really good with the ball at his feet, puts the ball on frame. It is a huge upgrade, just based on form from what we've seen from Ricardo Pepi. This is immense for the United States.

I hope we win 7-0 tonight. everyone talk about oh the united states they shouldn't be allowed this everybody's room for belgium now i hope belgium crushes you i hope the u.s wins seven nothing and then the entire belgian team they have to come into a locker room afterward and they have to make everybody a waffle because it gave me 20 years i thought you were going to go 47 nothing dan that's not even reasonable the united states uh having its best goal score because I think we can call him that. It's best goal scorer reinstated

because the most corrupt government administration teams with the most corrupt organization in the history of sports to do something that is flagrantly corrupt and also correct. Gotcha.