The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Trysta Krick Does Not Like Victor Wembanyama | Hour 2

Episode Date: May 13, 2026

"Houston, we have a problem." JuJu and Trysta are here to talk some NBA Playoffs, and Trysta makes two shocking revelations: she hates Victor Wembanyama, and she thinks Daryl Morey gets a bad rap because he is ugly. Does the guy that slaps you on the back and says 'hey babe, I'm gonna hit the head' give off fun guy? Plus, Dan continues not to understand why so few people in the company seem to care that Pablo Torre Finds Out won a Pulitzer Prize, and Greg Cote struggles to pick out a line from his favorite movie of all time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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been. So I tell you if you want to do podcasts, it's Apple, Spotify, Amazon music. If you want to do radio, it's SiriusXM, Channel 85. If you want to do mainstream stuff, it's Peacock and NBC Sports Now Monday through Friday from 12 to 3 or YouTube. And if you want to join us in the future, it's Draft Kings Network, it's Samsung TV Plus, it's the Roku channel, it's Vizio, watchfree plus, and others. Also, you can get Juju and Trista. After games, the remaining playing playoff games are going to have a lot of Juju and Trista after them at DLS Hoops on YouTube. They're going to join us now here because I want to have a lot of basketball conversation. But before I do that, did we find any facts on whether or not other human beings have the

exact voice somewhere in the world that you have or does every human being who has ever lived have a unique voice? Because it's not something that I'd considered before. Trista, do you have any thoughts on this? Yes, I think that guy who's like, yeah, see, yeah, got me, Kappa. I think that's Adam Shon. I also think nobody in the history of Earth has my voice, but I guess we'll read the polls on the postgame show to determine.

Both of you have super unique voices. It's one of the things I always think of this thing as an audio thing more than a visual thing, and I love how distinct your voices are. But did we get factual answers to my question? about it seems implausible that every single person who has ever lived, there's never been anybody who has had my voice. I'm more willing to believe it with Tristan Juju, actually. Because I've never heard a voice like those.

You scarred us and we're afraid to trust the internet, so we're not going to say anything. Ethically, I can't look it up, so. Okay. Morally, I can't either. All right, so we'd prefer to be ignorant than wrong. No, not ignorant. Be ethical and moral. And are we using AI?

Are we going to consult? lot on that is Claude trustworthy and where are we at on using AI for these types of things? Also, do we get to use some of Greg Cody's WGS White Guy syndrome? That's right. Use things. Yeah, anybody got a set

of encyclopedias? Go to the V look up voice in the encyclopedia and maybe that has the... He's right about that. That's what we have right now because he said we can't use search engines. We can't use large language models. So where are we at? Dan, encyclopedias? Dad, you just redecorated in like you're cleaning out your office. Did you

get rid of those encyclopedias that you still had? No, I still have them. He has. They're in a plastic tub in my garage room. Whenever I didn't know anything when I was a kid, my mom used to always tell me to go to the encyclopedia and look it up. I hated that shit. A plastic tub, your encyclopedias are in a plastic bathtub that is in your...

No, not a bathtub. A plastic, what do you call it? That storage bin. Let's talk about what it is that we were talking about before Trista and Juju came on. Trista, did you feel? find odd the conquering hero status that wemby was framed in last night yeah are you kidding me everybody is talking about oh yeah we we love wemby we're just waiting for this to become super annoying like it was with shack i lived through the first round guys i already hate wemby his face is smug the memes he's

kind of psychopathic when you think about it he smiles he immediately changes his his facial expressions in a way that makes me feel like there's something not right upstairs. The elbow. I know, besmirching. It's 7.20, 7.30 in my time. And the besmirching is already right there. I don't like Wembe. I don't like what he's about. Oh, no. Thank you, Trista. Come to the dark side.

We like you over here. I've already been there. Oh, no. I think because he reads, people are giving him more of a benefit of the doubt. They're like, oh, my God, he reads books in the locker room before that game. How civilized is Wembe? We've got two of the largest Wembe haters anywhere. You guys have beaten everyone else to the rush

on hating Wembe before it's water filter you're using Gobert? Like if Gobert knows. Give it a break. We got three of them because remember Mike Ryan was the first on the mountain. He said Wembe is going to ruin basketball, bro. So I think we got a home of Wembe Hates.

These are different criticisms, though. And I know you don't like, you like to keep it positive. you don't have very much hater in you at all. But these are different criticisms to say he's going to ruin the game and to say I don't like his personality. I don't like who his essence is. Right.

But I definitely agree, though, that my boy should have got a game because now if I'm the Timberwolves, if I'm the Knicks, it's elbow time because I see the precedent that's been set. I'm going through your chest, sir, and I better not be suspended. I want to get from Juju some thoughts here on Daryl Mora and what his legacy is going to be? What are your thoughts there?

Every time y'all say Darryorra, I think of that play he was in because we had video from that play y'all play earlier too and he was celebrating and I'd be like, boy, boy, boy. But I came up with the top five moments from the process that I think Darry would be remembered as even if he wasn't responsible. All right.

OLLI. OLLI. All right, let's do it. Bro, O-L-I, you got swept by the Knicks in a home court takeover, because that is the worst. But number five, you drafted Markell Fuchs over Jason Tatum. Number four, you drafted Ben Simmons over Jalen Brown. Good list. Number three, not the first time he said it, but when James Harden repeated.

that Darry is a liar. Number two, Joel and B crying his ass off when the Raptors won the damn. That's going to be

as close as he gets, isn't it? That's going to be as close as Joel Embed gets to the championship. And the number one moment from me

for the process, Ben Simmons holding up that fish on the boat as if it is all over. What are your thoughts here, Trista,

both on Juju's list and how this will be remembered because I don't think Mori gets a top job again. I like the list a lot. I think the list, we have to define what the process is because I feel like it's pre-Mori and it's post-hiring Mori. And like the things that were super egregious were really the Brian Calangelo things. To me, I feel like Mori is one of the best talent evaluators in Leak. And if you look at it like a grocery store, The GM's job should really be going out and getting the best ingredients for the chef, aka the coach to cook up.

Daryl Morey knows how to pick ingredients, y'all. Like truthfully, some of the best draft decisions, Tyrese Maxie, V.J. Edgecombe, Jared McCain. The problem for Darry is he doesn't know really when the ingredients are ready to expire, and he doesn't care about sale prices. He goes to Wegmans over Trader Joe's. He's getting Paul George at a price. premium like it's peak Paul George. I think it's because Darry

is ugly that he gets as bad of the rap as he does. And I think that they hired Bob Myers who honestly, like if you look at what Bob Myers did after Jerry West left, has been trash. We can go down the list. And they're also now rumored

to be hiring Neil Toxic Workplace, Olshe. You're talking about two good-looking guys just like our guy the serial killer as well, who was good looking, Ted Bundy. And I just think that we need to start evaluating people not based on how they look, but the decisions that they made.

Okay, I need to stop her on a number of different fronts, and I did it way too late here. First of all, did you answer my question as to whether he will work again in the league? You're thinking that he does because of what you're saying as the top guy in the league, the full power position? I thought she said no, because he's ugly. No, I don't think he gets the top, top job. But I would keep Mori on just in terms of like draft evaluation because both of those guys can't draft worth a shit. Juju, why did you throw the penalty flag?

Because she's sitting here having analysis that none of us could have. This is not fair. This is not equality. I can't have it. I second it. You can't come after Darry this way and just say he can't have these jobs because he's ugly. I've never heard that analysis before. Can you imagine?

This is why I love having Trista as a partner because she can say things. I could never dream of saying. Could you imagine if I had this take on anybody in the WNBA? No, I would be counseled. Well, that's because women, Juju, are highly sexualized and men are not sexualized. So that's just the way it goes. Ugly men get to get jobs. Ugly women, not so much.

Yeah, Juj. I'm sensual. I don't know what you're talking about. I think this is Elaine for, I think we should have Trista on as Elaine, a a correspondent whether or not this person or that person should have a job based strictly on whether they're good looking or not. Because Bob Myers is getting chances you're saying that the resume... That hair, I thought that being good.

It was like Quasimodo. You think he has this job? Come on. Come on. Look at what Bob Myers did after Jerry West left. He drafted James Wiseman, who was a bust. And really, there was no real reason to draft James Wiseman because he didn't even play that much in college.

He drafted Nico Mannion. He just drafted Justinian Jessup. Do we even remember that guy? Drafted Jonathan Kaminga and then they didn't use him. Drafted Moses Moody. That's probably the one that you could say, okay, he's all right. Did the sign and trade with Durant for DeAngelo Russell. Got Kelly Ubre.

I just feel like why are we talking about Bob Myers like he's some sort of genius when it was really 44 that was the genius? Mm-hmm. You better preach. Trist, I'm going to read you a couple of transactions here over the Darry Morrow lifespan in Philadelphia. Trade to Michael Bridges. No, that wasn't him.

No? No, that was not him. That was Colangelo? That was Calangelo. 2020, the Tyrese max a year is Darryl Morey's first year. Okay. So cut Isaiah Joe for 40-year-old Dwayne Dedman? But drafted Isaiah Joe.

The mechanic. But not there anymore because he tried. I said you don't know. He doesn't know when the vegetables have expired. They're still fresh. These are two good corrections. Keep going. And he's moving off of them.

The second one was a correction. He moved off of Isaiah Joe, who's now a big time player. He's saying he had the insight to see that that was a player. Not everyone saw that. But this is the cold heart fact of the transaction. Not that he knew a guy was going to be good and then ended up. But she's making, I think she's making an important distinction that I'm not hearing a whole lot today.

And the coverage of Darry what I am hearing is failure. I'm hearing all over. I'm not hearing all over the place. One of the best talent evaluators in the game. She's saying something most people are not saying. Traded McCain for a bad 20-second first-round pick. Sold high on him. Drafted Jared McCain, which a lot of people thought was not a good draft pick,

and now we see what he can become. Nick Nurse, for all of the things that we say positively about him, maybe he's not a very good chef. He wasn't using Jared McCain that well. Now Jeremy McCain goes to a place with a great chef, and you see what a star in great. That is. When you have a guy that's buying the ingredients and the chef can't cook worth the shit,

he's like, maybe I'm just getting the wrong ingredients. It's like, no, no, no, Daryl. You get the ingredients great. It's the people around you that are not doing a good job making the mobs bad. It's okay, man. I got it right here. I got her right here. He cut Julian Champany so MacMecl can participate in the slam dunk contest.

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Terms at dkng.com.co slash audio. Don Lebertard. Billy, somebody is written in here. I need way more. I'm sorry. I just said in his headset. Haven't you been to all of them, too? It sounded like you were speaking aloud.

My bad. Totally on me. That's 100% on me. Stugats. But that goes without saying. That it couldn't have. Well, now he said. He didn't.

He didn't say it. He said it. Why, Greg? Greg. My apologies and sincere. Greg. Greg. Greg.

Yeah. Greg. He apologized. Craig. Cereg. This is the Don Lebertar show with his two gods. Speaking of a bad one, a couple weeks ago, we was making fun of my brother Dave damn check and how he was holding his arm.

Oh yeah. When the Pap Narduzzi photo. This is tough. Brother Dan, you got some nerve. Look at my boy Dave. First of all, yes, that arm is awkward as hell. Yeah, bad arm. My sister Lucy and Rose and Bit Brother Pat.

But Dan, you had a picture with Kevin Hart, brother. I think you forgot about. Video team, what is you doing with your arm, Bit, bruh? Is there a ghost? I feel like that is an arm that's not proportional with the rest of my body. It's too long your arm. It reminds me. It reminds me of like a Chris Elliott character.

Do you guys know what it is that I'm talking about, the Chris Elliott character with tiny hands and very... A scary movie? What is wrong with what is happening there? My germs? Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Do you know who Quasimodo is? Because Zaz made a reference there that I think is dated enough

that most people don't know what you're talking about. Does everyone here know what Zaz is talking about when he says Quasimoto as a famously ugly person? Greg? Yes, I do. I know Quasimodo. Everyone here knows? Yes, Trista?

Yes, I know Quasimodo. I've heard the name of Quasimodo. Quasimodo, but I don't know if I could pick him out of a lineup. That's who I thought the Notre Dame mascot was, right? That's right, the lepricons. His name's Quasimodo. At Lebitard Show, if you want to vote on the polls, Juju, can you fix flopping, please, for me in the NBA?

Come up with a solution. You're good at coming up with ways that we can get rid of some things that everyone, that the American people would enjoy having removed from the landscape. Exactly. My sister, video team, y'all crazy. My sister, she made a great point on the alley-up yesterday, bro. Like, if the referees could get it right, we wouldn't have none of these problems. But it's so much faking and flopping going around that y'all tricking the damn reps. I'm thinking he could get to file when it's not, Chet Horn Green, I'm looking at you. So I think that moving forward, flopping, if you get caught flapping on this down instant replay, five minutes, bro, I don't give a damn. You're out of the game. Somebody can come get you, but at the same time, you're out of this game. So in crunch time, five minutes left in the game, SGA good luck. You feel me? What do y'all think about that?

Any thoughts? What do I have here? I like the idea. Seriously. Because it walks a fine line. You're not ejecting them, but you're doing more than just getting a couple of free throws out of it. You're making them sit for five minutes. I think it's a brilliant idea.

You're not talking like hockey, right? I'm making sure I understood you. Like they're not down a man. You can put someone else out there, but just that guy's got to get off. Yeah, no power play. I'm in on this. Power play might be a little too extreme. That's too much.

Right. Yeah, we got to get somebody else in for you because brother, sit down. I'll keep working on it. Let's see if we can get it to a place where we can bake it and have it ready for Adam Silver in a way that has it. Because that's good. That's better than yesterday. Four on five, nobody was going to accept it. That's better than yesterday.

Trista, we skipped right past something that you said. How real is the rumor that the Sixers are going to hire Neil Olshe, who, who comes from fired from a Portland toxic workplace. Like what are the details here that people need to know on how it is these guys get recycled no matter where it is they're coming from? Nepotiz. Nepotiz is how it happens. Bob Myers and Neil O'Shea are friendly or friends.

Both came from the agent to GM route. But again, like Neil O'Shea is a silver fox. He's got a big smile. He calls you, babe. says he's going to hit the head. He pats you on his shoulder. And you're like, ah, yeah, this guy, this guy's kind of fun. But when you, when you, when he says you're going to hit the head. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I just want to see what your character assessment is. So someone slaps you on the back says, I'm going to hit the head and you're like, this is a fun guy.

He says, hey babe, he slapped you on the back. I'm going to hit the head. You say fun guy. This guy's trouble is what I really said. He's a kind of guy that I can get to say anything. I'm going to hit the head. Why is he saying that he's going to hit the head? And why does that give off fun guy to you? Well, it gives off machismo like Neanderthal. And those guys are notoriously up to no good.

Like those guys like to have a good time, in my opinion. Also let you know he's leaving the building. He wants to let you know he's going to the bathroom. What's wrong with that? Yeah, he's like he's courteous. He's telling me, hey, I'm going to, I'll be right back. Babe, I got to hit the head, but I'll be right back. All right.

All right. Put it on the poll, please. At Lebertad show. If the Silver Fox calls your babe and says, I have to hit the head, is he allowed to have a toxic workplace? Because, or does that make it a toxic? workplace by itself. Oh, $1,000.

If he does that, when that came out, when that piece of news came out, I was like, this makes all the sense in the world. I could have told you that the first moment that I met Neil Olshea, and he said, hey, babe, I'm going to hit the head, like six months into his tenure as Portland Trailblazers' GM.

And I think he gets a lot of credit because of the Damien Lillard draft pick. But that wasn't him. That was Indiana Pacers' GM, Chad Buchanan, and Kevin Pritchard. Well, I was actually Chad Buchanan, who was the interim GM at the time. But, yeah, like, Neil O'Shea is the kind of guy that will curse you smooth out. There's a famous story about him talking about Nick Batum, who's now on the Clippers.

He would say, we could swirl a dead cat in the arena and throw it against a fan, and that fan would be a better player than Nick Batum. again, just more data for the toxic workplace that Neil Orshae will say anything, do anything. But he's good-looking. Like, look at him. Pull the phone up again. Good-looking man.

Why the cat got to be dead? Who knows? Who knows? My boy, yeah, get him out of here. Can't swing the cat alive. Hey. He got to be dead. Didn't try to swing a cat alive?

It's got to be dead. No, it's got to be dead. In order to hit someone between the eyes, like David would have Goliath, you've got to swing the cat, a cat that's dead. If you throw it that's alive, that's a workplace violation. That's dangerous. You can't be doing that.

I'm sorry. I heard the music the first time. Here is a movie quote that Greg Cody is not likely to have heard. Greg Cody, do you know what this is from? One chance to come back here and tell our enemies

that they may take our lives. But they'll never take our freedom. But they'll never take our freedom. Lord of the Rings? No. Close. What's the hint? Atlanta Braves?

Remember the Titans? No. Further. You think that's a football movie involving Denzel Washington? Remember the Falcons? No. One chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom. That's a bad Irish accent.

Who's known for a bad accent? I don't know. I just don't. I'm... Ten Commandments? Do you recognize the voice? Do you recognize... In keeping with our conversation here about voices being distinctive, do you recognize this voice? They may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom! Yeah, I'm picturing that actor. I can't come up with his name. He's full of himself, that actor. He's not that well known.

That's not narrowing it down, though. I think he's like, famously. He was in lethal weapon. He was in the lethal weapon movies. That's not going to help you at all. He was in Matt Max, one of his first movie.

Was there a horse in that? That was obviously, that, Juja got it right. That is Daniel Glover in Braveheart. Daniel Glover. Dan Lewis is who I was thinking of, the full of himself actor. Do you still not know who it would

is. I just said the movie. Do you still, what is the name of the movie? I don't know. But I just said it. Say it again. Braveheart. Braveheart. Thank you, Trista.

Thank you. Thank you, Juju. Again. That's a good looking man. At DLS. Who also, who also has gotten away with atrocities because of his looks? There you go. What do you say?

Hit the head, babe. Juju. Throw that way I'm in a circle. if it's little make it jump like a hurdle, man. All right. Show.com, man, log on. At DLS Hoops, yes, famed anti-Semite, Mel Gibson.

Not Daniel Glover. Daniel Glover was not the star of Braveheart. You are right, Dad. There was a horse in here. Take our lives. But they'll never take home. Classic Winnie. Also, it's Danny Glover.

Put it on the poll. Would Braveheart had been a better movie if it had been Danny Glover instead of Mel Gibson Jr. I can't believe that we have stumbled correctly on the idea that no one in history has had a voice like anyone else in history. It just doesn't seem possible, and I don't feel like we've gotten accurate information. There has to be a guy in Bangladesh who sounds just like Tony.

You just can't tell me that there are no, how would it be possible for no one to have exactly this whiny of a voice that someone out there sounds as annoying as I do when I get to this pitch. Can I ask the large language model, Dan, or no? I would like some information here. And even if it has to be acquired unethically, I'm willing to take what it is that, but you could just do research better than that. You can also do the... Listen to everybody's voice on the entire planet? No, sorry, I can't do that. Get back to us on that. I'm being told here, voices are like fingerprints,

shaped by unique anatomy, including the larynx, larynx, mouth shape, sinuses, and vocal cords. It sounds very AIE. AIEE? You know what I meant. AIE is spelled with the Y, isn't it? AIEE. A.OLEE is spelled with a Y. Kenole.

Don Lebertard. Judge Coat, sweetie. Stugats. I should say hello. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. What movie is leave the commandant? Take the gun, leave the connolly. That was the, we already did that.

I know. That's why I'm asking you. I don't think you remember. Of course I don't. Why would I? It's dispensable information. I don't have the bandwidth to remember every detail I've ever heard. Can I give them an easy one?

Extraneous detail. It is movie lines. Because I have here, I have one more for sure that I don't think. think he'll know. I have one more that I do think you will. I'm bothered by how good you are at selecting terrible music that I don't like at the beginning and then I end up liking. You have been consistent in finding just the cheapest possible music. You have to go like this when you hear it. He's dancing for people not listening to not watch it. That's just generic game show music. That's not actually on any game show even though it's game show perfect. To give myself a

little credit here, that's me taking like a snippet of this long. song and I'm like dude that's my that's my little that's my moment right there well credit to you what is the movie clip that you're saying is this the easiest one we've got this is this is this will be hilarious if he doesn't get okay but I wait a minute I want the best one for the end I want the easiest one for the end so that we can ride the zip line this is what I want to know okay Jeremy is I think making his first road trip with the Marlins this week and so I want to put him on a zip line and I want to do with him what it is that we did with Mina Kimes. And I want to do it successfully with him, but I'm worried about doing it

successfully with him because it's been done as well as it can be done. And I don't want anti-climax from it. I want our very best and easiest one that Greg Cody can be wrong on. I want that to be our last one. So I'll go with the second easiest one here because I have three more in the holster. I'm going to go second easiest, one that I think he'll still miss, and then we'll go easiest. I also want to play this game again next week. So get another batch of them because I'm fairly startled by how bad he is at this, even though I know he doesn't know anything. A little update on Jeremy. We have been efforting all week to do exactly what you just said. Apparently, either he's lying about this because he doesn't want to do it or it's not running currently. Like that

zip line is just out of order at the moment, according to Jeremy. So luckily for us, we won't get a shitty sequel. Mina is doing a new job before we get to this. movie segment. She's got a new job now. She's got a new job now. Mina is hosting the National Spelling Bee. I loved that as a choice for her. It made me happy when I saw Nick Wright's nemesis, Mina Kimes, you know, be in charge of the National Scripts Spelling Bee. And Pablo Tori has won a Pulitzer as well. You think Nick Wright looks at the spelling TV thing and is like, Damn, she got me. I don't think so, but I think it's because he's in more of the common man lane,

and I do enjoy how it is. I love how Nick Wright is winning by not doing what it is that Mina and Pablo are doing because he's being more of the every man. I did want to ask you guys, though, something based on yesterday's conversation, because I have been both confused and frustrated by the fact that not only do I, believe that America at large does not care about what the Pulitzer Award means anymore, but the people here in this media company who owns something that has just won the most prestigious prize in the history of journalism didn't seem to understand yesterday what our ownership

of this means. When I ask you, did the New York Times win a Pulitzer for Pablo Torre's show? yes or no, what's the answer to that? Yes or no, did they win a Pulitzer? Yeah? I think it's no. Well, they're celebrating as if they won a Pulitzer and everyone is saying they want a Pulitzer, they license our show.

How can they win a Pulitzer and you guys don't understand that you want a Pulitzer? How can the employees of this company think that the New York Times won a Pulitzer when they lease that show and we, this group of people here, doesn't feel like it won a Pulitzer when we own that show. Like, how does that even happen? Explain to me, yesterday when we were talking about this, you guys were saying,

well, the owners don't get celebrated in sports. They hand the owners the trophy. Like, they come at the end of the championship. They go and give the trophy first to the owner. Right. The custodian's not on stage, though. Yeah, but you guys made this, you guys made the award. this is not the custodian.

I'm saying not you, no, you're not the custodian. You guys are owners, though. You guys are owners in the company. Do you or do you not own a percentage of the company? That's right, I do. Yeah. So when you guys were saying that the Pulitzer Prize is the MVP award, I think it's the championship.

I don't think it's the MVP award. The MVP award is an individual award. I think this is the championship. I think Pablo Tori has won it in name, but Pablo Tori has a newsroom. Pablo Tori has a team. Pablo Tori has an assortment of people who are making it so that Pablo Tori wins the Pulitzer. But you can't tell me the New York Times can claim it, and you guys don't.

No, I agree with that. I think what we're having is, even though I loved it when I was in high school, we're part of a group project where we really didn't do anything, right? Like they did all the work. I love those projects. We're standing in the front of the class. Like, Zaz, can you believe it, buddy? We got an A. Let's go.

My Twitter bio says Pulitzer adjacent. You guys, we're the ones throwing the coal in the furnace so the train can. move. Without the coal being thrown in the furnace, the train just doesn't travel. It just sits there. Like, you're saying that we didn't do the work, but the company provides the resources that other media entities are not willing to pour into the idea of journalism so you're making the sacrifice so that it can exist so that that kind of work can remain something that's rewarded, which ends up carrying the legacy of our media company. Like it's, so we've wanted to, an Emmy, I know that awards aren't the reason to do this, but this particular award, when I think of the highest civilian honors, whether it's Purple Heart or, you know, Congressional Medal of Honor, Nobel Peace Prize, Pulitzer is in the Hall of Fame of whatever it is all honors, American honors can be. To me, do I have this wrong? Because I'm talking to Greg Cody, who's a journalist, and so he believes in the idea of this. But I was startled that,

most of my journalism friends, almost all of them, not only didn't reach out to me, had no idea it happened, just didn't know that Pablo had even won. Yeah, that's surprising to me because whether it's lost prestige or not because of the downturn of journalism, it's still the most prestigious journalism award. I think part of the problem with the Pulitzer is that it's fractured. It's not just journalism. It's for the arts. It's for poetry. It's a myriad different or an example would be me winning a Pulitzer for best catchphrase countdown. Okay. But...

You want credit for that one too, Dan? Okay. True or false? You're miffed at the New York Times for taking credit. Not at all. No, I'm just confused. It sounded like you were. No, I'm confused.

No. Not that us? I'm confused by you guys. Dan, we're humble. I'm... What the other people say were Pulitzer winners? The part that I'm not understanding is it's super rare. for a group of people who owns something to not take pride in what represents one of the great prestigious in the history of American awards.

Like, I'm not getting it. And the only reason I'm bringing up the New York Times example is because no one I think disputes that the New York Times want to pull a surprise because they licensed Pablo Tori's show. I mean, if an actor wins an Oscar, how far down the list is that go? Like, does the whole studio believe they won the Oscar? I think that the studios that win Oscars take great prides in being the studios that win Oscars and then get a ton more work because of how the industry regards the winning of that. As it regards media companies, it's an extraordinary accomplishment that one that has been alive for five years has won a Pulitzer. But it's more extraordinary to me that the owners of that company don't seem to understand.

understand what they've won. Well, it feels like we work for Modern Family and we're like under the ABC umbrella and Pablo, the other show won an Emmy. That's a good example. It's like, yeah, I work for the same company and I love Pablo, love that show, but I'm not going to do a victory. I work for Modern Family. We're the better show than that other one.

All right. So when Metal Arc Media. More popular show, but. When Metal Arc Media wins a sports Emmy for the comeback movie, one of the documentaries we've made, none of you understand the personal pride involved with like you're do you not understand what you own here when you're making things that are winning awards like it's just how am i supposed to explain to the audience how to care about this when the people most invested in it don't seem to understand it i think that's a distinction right like we we made an incredible thing but like we is like certain people so i feel like for us back here it's like we can't claim that we worked on certain things or that we are part of certain things that won it can't exist unless we're making it's like we're making it's like we're making it's like we're making sure money. It's like which part of this? You guys invent. This company invented that thing

that won that award. It can't exist otherwise. It doesn't exist otherwise. How are you not getting that? I just feel like if I was like doing a radio hits, taking a victory lap, you'd be making fun of me for it. I feel like I can't win here.

Yeah, I feel like people object to the idea that Tony won a Pulitzer. Can I tell my wife? Tony owns a percentage of Pablo Torre finds out because he owns a percentage of this company. Hard stop. Thank you.

Tell my wife today. Babe, I'm a Pulitzer Prize winner. I'm going to go hit the head. Give me some more movie music here so we can do another movie here with Greg Cody. He's ashamed and embarrassed. We've got three of these left. He is, oh, for all of them.

the one that named the movie three times in the quote. Let's see what we've got here. There's no place like home. There's no place like home. Oh, get the hell out of here. Greg? Greg. Okay. It's the Wizard of Oz.

Okay, thank you. What's your favorite movie of all time? Why did you pause on that? We win just for how long that took you. No, no, no. The hesitation was that it didn't sound like Dorothy. It sounded like a little six-year-old boy. There's no place like home. There's no place.

You know what? He's not wrong. It does sound like a six-year-old boy. That's the one at the end when she's like coming, like about to wake up, essentially. I can't tell that that is Dorothy. I hear the kid from six cents. There's no place like home. There's no place like home.

Okay, but the line is from the Wizard of Oz. So I got that right. That is from the Wizard of Oz. Okay. That ambient. music, by the way, just pulsates 1950. There's no place like home. There's no place like home.

Is that a weeping violin? What is the sound of that? That is just profoundly sad and gives off black and white television. Give me another movie, please, before we get to what it is your alleging is the easiest of all. All right. Here's the last hard one.

Houston, we have a problem. Oh, everybody knows that one. But do you? I'm not sure. know the voice? Do you know whose voice that is? Houston, we have a problem. Houston, we do have a problem. He didn't say we do, but. Houston, we have a problem.

It's a, obviously it's the movie about the NASA and the space problem. Right. Houston, we have a problem. But who's, who's the actor? Do you recognize the actor's voice? Houston, we have a problem. It sounds like Lewis. It sounds like Lewis?

It is. It is. It is. Yes. It is, yes. He's, yes. He started up. It's Tom Hanks. That's Hanks? Houston, we have a problem. That does not sound like Hanks. And the movie is Apollo 13. You didn't give me a chance to answer.

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