The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Will Miami Dolphins Fans Boo Tua Tagovailoa? | Local Hour

Episode Date: August 27, 2026

"Jeremy got that thing rockin'." Zas expects Dolphins fans to greet Tua with boos during his preseason homecoming. Is it fair? Is it because of his play? Does Zas look like a booer himself? Draymon...d Green tries to defend Klay Thompson by insulting who he is in 2026, Amin tells the crew about the podcasts he listens to, Jeremy responds to yesterday's show, and JuJu shares the details of going to the Marlins game last night. Today's cast: Zaslow, Amin, Roy, Jeremy, JuJu, Mike, and Trysta. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are listening to the Dan Levitar show in partnership with the Drafkin Sports app. Now live in all 50 states. Jeremy, thoughts on yesterday's show. You are back here with us. You have not been with us for a couple of days. Yeah, all week. Yeah, I know that you were watch. Okay, let's just do the show.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Thoughts on yesterday. You got some corrections. You got some things you disagree with. Mostly just responses to some of the things you guys said. Let me hear. So one was that. that we went on a little riff about Greg Cody saying you may be right and how that was related to Billy Joel. About five minutes earlier, he said twice, it's still Twittered
Starting point is 00:00:42 me. And I think that was a, it's still rock and roll to me reference. So that first of all, Zaz just wanted you to know someone at the Marlins game yesterday yelled who made a desalid at me, which I thought you would appreciate of a Greg Cody catchphrase. And I also realized he consistently insisted that we acknowledge Sinatra, right, if someone sings a song like that or Anka. And what I realized he was doing there is he is the Sinatra of his own catchphrases, which is that he didn't actually write most of them. Most of them are somebody else's line or phrase.
Starting point is 00:01:18 He's like Elton John who wrote none of his own songs. He's the performer, and he insists you acknowledge a performer. I appreciated that. Love the conversation about going back in time and killing Hitler. It's just a fun one. Baby Hitler. Yeah, baby Hitler. Anyone would go back in time and kill him.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Hitler, you know, there is a, there is a Malaney bit. There is a Malaney bit about this, which is like, if you went back in time to kill baby Hitler, it's like, what, I'm going to kill some random baby? I'm not sure that's Hitler. And what? If it's like a really old man in modern times, then it's like, well, you just killed a random old man. You don't know what's Hitler. What? He looked like Hitler. I don't know. Um, I mean, another suggestion. Hold on Jeremy. Go ahead. How young, for those who are uncomfortable with killing baby Hitler, how young do you have to go before you're not uncomfortable? Like could he be in elementary school? Yeah, could you kill like 10-year-old Hitler? I think that makes it harder. Harder? I think so. Have you met a 10-year-old? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Give you a baseball bet. That wasn't Hitler? Ah, all right, my bad. Give me a baseball bet? Oh, man. Children. What, let me tell you. Bludgeoning?
Starting point is 00:02:22 We're bludgeoning child Hitler. It's child Hitler. Bludgeon? I mean, at a certain point, if it's a baby, you just, you know, like the, they did on the Odyssey, throw the puppies off. off the mountain. He was throwing them off the mountain, right? Yes, he was throwing them off the mountain.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Me neither. I didn't like that. I didn't like that. I'm pushing down as Wooden, bludgeon baby Hitler. Jeremy, go ahead. Continue. Another suggestion of a show name for you,
Starting point is 00:02:46 Zaslow 2, Electric Bugaloo. And then a couple of top fives based off of things we talked about with Dolly Pardin. Notice a lot of people didn't know what 9 to 5 was about, which is essentially just an anti-capitalist anthem.
Starting point is 00:03:02 But it's a box. Also an example of a kidnapping movie where the kidnappers get away with it. Awesome kidnapping movie. Great movie. Great movie. But I just had a top five songs that people sing along to that they don't understand. So OLA, pumped up kicks by Foster the People. A lot of school shooting.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Take Me to Church by Hozier. Not a religious song. Kind of the opposite. Imagine by John Lennon. Wait, why is it the opposite? Take Me to Church? Yeah. It's just a super pro-LGBQ, like,
Starting point is 00:03:32 all about the church banning people from getting married. I did not know that. Yep. That's what Take Me to Church is about. Imagine by John Lennon. It's just the communist manifesto, but we've seen, like, you know, celebrities singing it as if it's just like this super quaint song.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Calaisal, no. Number five. Every breath you take by the police. He's a stalker. He's a stalker. It's actually about Big Brother and surveillance. Still stalking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Different type of stalking. Fortunate son by CCR. That's why they play in every Vietnam movie. Yep. It's always played in those, but everybody just thinks because they hear like, born to wave the flag, ooh, that red, white, and blue. They think it's patriotic. It is in a different way.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Speaking of, number three, born in the USA. Yeah. Ronald Reagan played it at the Republican National Convention, and they went to the racism. It's amazing. And Bruce Bracian is like, that's not what the song is about. You don't know what this is about at all. Every Fourth of July, that one. Number two, this land is your land.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Literally a communist anthem, but we learn it in like kindergarten. This land is your own. And number one, nine to five. Yeah. I thought number one could also be the national anthem. Fair? No brown-eyed girl. And top five things I'll call you if you insult my pet based off of Clay Thompson,
Starting point is 00:04:55 referring to Trista. Trista is a wench. So number five is scoundrel? Wow, just rolling back-to-back top fives here, huh? Yep. four, Harlot. Number three, hussy. Number two, knucklehead. I like Hussie. Number one, a mother. All right, dump the ball on the post.
Starting point is 00:05:13 All right, there you go. Thank you, Jeremy. Wasn't expecting back. That was it. We're done. Top fives. I'm out for the day. Yeah, maybe. Charleston. So, tomorrow, the dolphins are playing their third and final preseason game. Are there NFL preseason games tonight? There probably are, right? Thursday. Anyway, dolphins are playing their third and final preseason game tomorrow night. Why is that interesting? Well, two reasons. Number one, it's a home game, and number two, the cut? Well, no. No?
Starting point is 00:05:39 The starting quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons tomorrow night, Tua Tonga Voloa. Nice. So Tua is getting the start in preseason game number three. Michael Pennix Jr. will have not played a single snap in the preseason, and he's going to win the job over Tua. Amazing. That's what's going to wind up. Has there ever been a quarterback competition where one quarterback did a quarterback? play and the quarterback who did, he couldn't win the job.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I got to assume it's anytime someone great is the starting quarterback. But that's not a competition. Yeah, that's true. This is the very definition of it's his job to lose. Yeah. And he's lost. I guess, you know, Jack Strand, who not a lot of people know from lower division college, he's looked good and can't be discounted in the race either.
Starting point is 00:06:27 He looked great last week. Like when Tua played in the first preseason game, he was awful. the offense was awful. I think they had like seven points. And last week, Tua didn't play, this Strand kid played. I think they scored 34. Yeah, the biggest damning indictment of Tua's play thus far is... Damn.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Stifansky, I've seen it. You know, that's how you know that Deshawn Watson's just ass because a lot of quarterbacks play really well in that system. He makes the game easy for quarterbacks, and the game hasn't looked easy at all. It's looked the opposite for Tua. Is he just scrambled eggs or is he is he afraid? Like, how does one go from?
Starting point is 00:07:08 I think he's washed. But like that's not, what Mike's telling you is like that Stefanski's had guys who are less talented look good. That's more than washed, right? There's something more happening there. Well, I mean, I don't know that it's more than wash. If you're a bad football player, who cares if the system is good? I think that there's a combination of things. We've seen recently, C.J. Shroud's going through it right now.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Deshaun Watson's also going through it right. now historically Carson Wentz, even Vince Young, who came in, did well with the league and then the league adjusted. Maybe Jalen Hertz is dealing with that right now. In the NFL, you're having something that is tantamount to the Brady Anderson years when it comes with quarterbacks. And once the league adjusts, the cream of the crop, learn to adjust to the adjustment. Who's that ultimate guy for the NFL? The Brady Anderson of the NFL? Where the tape came out, it would be the Wildcat offense. Like three weeks in Florida. Keep an eye on what's going on with Jalen Hertz, who goes several halves without completing a pass
Starting point is 00:08:02 and this is a really big season for him and he was a Super Bowl MVP. Yeah, they won a game last year without completing a pass. Carson Wentz was a guy that was a leading MVP candidate but a lot of people can point to that injury but that's all right. Injuries happen, he was never able to remotely recapture
Starting point is 00:08:18 that type of thing. I feel like Robert Griffin is the poster chop. Yeah, there was a lot going on there. He was small. He had this superhuman ability to just get blown up every time an opposing player touched him. But there was also like conflict happening between the front office and the coaches staff. You'll, yeah, remember Robert Griffin, who maintains a line that that was a bad coaching staff that
Starting point is 00:08:39 mistreated him and there were like 17 head coaches on that staff. Like Kyle Shane Ann was on that staff. Sean McVeigh was on that staff. I mean, Mike Shanahan was the head coach, the Super Bowl champion. It's just like, all right, so you're telling me they don't know what they're talking about? All right. C.J. Strouds probably like right there with Jalen Hertz and like this is happening. So it's my long wind way of saying.
Starting point is 00:09:03 There's a reality here where it's not just what happened to his brain. Absolutely. But it certainly didn't help matters, and it's making things worse. Like just the normal functions of a quarterback. I'm not even talking about his limitations with a deep ball, even though he's proven you don't have to drive the ball to be an effective deep ball thrower provided that you have Tyreek Hill. Just like the decisions to run, when the slide,
Starting point is 00:09:28 mishandling snaps now. There's a lot of things that pop up in his game that look neurological. The things that used to be a strength for him are no longer strengths. His quick decision making used to be a strength. He has a harder time now making the quick decisions, which leads to him not being terribly accurate. His decision making was his number one strength, and it's just not there anymore.
Starting point is 00:09:56 So is that, and the rest is, I mean, look, for as immobile as Tua was, when he got to the dolphins, hip injury, whatnot, he's even worth, Mike, you all right there? Yeah, my tea got stuck to the coaster. I use this Wutang coaster because it doesn't get stuck to it, but it got stuck to the coaster, which means it fall, then I dropped a bunch of hot tea a little bit in my hand. Oh, man, I hope you're all right. Mike's got the hot tea. Not my fault, coaster's fault.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Hope you're all right. I got a hot take. I think, yes, there are, how many teams in the NFL, 32, 31 stadiums, they should tell Tua exactly how they feel about them. But I feel like when Tua comes back to Miami, tomorrow. He should get a standing ovation from every single Miami Dolphin fan, not because of his play, but because of his dedication. Everybody on TV was telling this brother, bro, sit your ass down, bro, don't go back out there.
Starting point is 00:10:49 He said, no, I want to lead this team. And to his detriment, but he put his life on the line. for y'all boys. Now this all y'all out here, oh, he's this, he's this. I think y'all boys should give him a stand ovation when he get back. I'm closer to Juju than where most Dolphin fans are. And I do think time will heal all wounds. He is going to get the shrewd out of him.
Starting point is 00:11:10 He is. He is going to be mercilessly booted tomorrow. He did not help his case. And the guy just kept saying the worst possible thing in these press conferences. But I do think when time goes by, people will recognize like, man, that's the best quarterback that we've had since Marino. He'd let the NFL in passing. That was super exciting. Well, that's what I was going to ask is, like, what are you booing him for? Because if it's about the press conferences, fine. But if it's about the decline and play, he gave you amazing moments.
Starting point is 00:11:41 It's a good question. And the first place I would start, because there is a major debate going on right now among Dolphin fans over the last 24 hours as to how we're going to treat Tua when he runs onto the field and starts the game tomorrow night. And it's, oh, you know, should we boo him? Is it okay to boo him? You shouldn't boo to a. Me personally, I'm not into booing. I don't boo.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Really? I just think it's like, well, I'll boo at wrestling. I mean, obviously, all right? Come on. You look like a booer. This can't be the worst town you've ever been in, Ms. You look like a booer. No, no, I don't see the point.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You look like a booer. At wrestling. Boers wear backwards fitted cats. Yes, they do. Uncanny. All right. But I, like, I'm not a booer. I don't see the point.
Starting point is 00:12:26 You look like a soda drinker, too. But here's the thing. Here's the point. If you're wondering if he should be booed, if you're wondering if it's okay to boo him, here's the thing. He's playing for the other team. So, yes, it's okay to boo him. It's okay to boo every player who plays on the other team.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Let's start there. So this idea... But that's not what we're talking about. Tris, I didn't when she... here, okay? It's not like, hey, should we boo Dwayne Wade, all right? He didn't win. One more than many of the other quarterbacks that have come through here. Not a single playoff game, Mike. No, he went to the playoffs. And again, leading passer in the NFL. If this were a dinner banquet
Starting point is 00:13:08 celebrating Miami Dolphins' luminaries 17 years from now, the dude gets a strong applause. It doesn't have to come off as this hugely personal thing. He plays for the other team. to boo him, boo the man. That's not what's happening here. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. That's a bullshit excuse. Because a lot of times when players come back in, they do a little tribute video for them. There better not be a tribute video.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You have to understand, it's that really deeply personal Atlanta Falcons, Miami Dolphins, preseason rivalry. Here's the thing. You're wondering why is it the press conferences, is it this and that? You know, Dolphin fan, there wasn't a conversation from the Dolphin fan. when Chad Henney was coming back. Chad Henney ended up stinking. We had high hopes from stunk, all right?
Starting point is 00:13:59 We weren't wondering about booing him when he came back. Ryan Tannahill, we had high hopes for him. He was here a year longer than Tua was. He was here a year longer than Tua was. Didn't work out. He wasn't that great. There was no conversation about booing Ryan Tannahill. You know why?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Because at the end of their time with the Miami Dolphins, they didn't become this unlikable douche, all right? And that's what Tua was. So not only was he. awful, okay? And I understand, hey, I wouldn't have turned down $200 million. Of course he's going to take it. But regardless, welcome to sports. He signed a huge contract, which he didn't wind up holding up his end of the bargain. As a result, the dolphins are seriously hamstrung over the next couple of years. And he was wholly unlikable in his final year. So yeah, if the dolphin fan wants to boom
Starting point is 00:14:51 tomorrow night? Whatever. Boom! You know, it becomes unlikable and has like questionable press conferences and says the wrong thing sometimes. People with brain injuries. That's what you say. Scramble eggs. That's what I mean by scrambled eggs. Maybe, maybe,
Starting point is 00:15:09 but it could also be both. Like we were talking about this with Royce White a couple weeks ago, right? Where, okay, Royce White, everyone years ago, when Royce White entered the NBA, was kind of a first We don't want to say anything bad about him because he's got mental health, you know, OCD, he's got all this. So I don't want to come off as insensitive.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Well, you know what? He could have obsessive, compulsive disorder and also be a huge asshole. Like, it could be both. And Tua, okay, Tua can be suffering from head injuries, could have had concussions. And he may also have changed as a person once he got paid. Like, it could be both. He would also, before the rash of on-field incidents, would say stupid. Yeah, he made just be stupid.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Like he would say too much, like whether it was to show me the money thing that he did at camp or that time he was in college and he volunteered that his dad would hit him with the belt whenever he threw an interception, like he says too much. Remember that time you want to play a preseason game or an overseas game in Israel? Oh, well, yeah, they said, is there anywhere that the NFL hasn't played yet? You're like, oh, be dope to play in Jerusalem. Yeah, that was after the rash. See, man.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I didn't read the room a little bit. I was like, hey, man, do you watch the news? A lot of other cool places, too. Maybe mention that first. Tel Aviv, for example. Yeah, exactly. I don't even my number one choice in Israel. A very modernized city.
Starting point is 00:16:29 There's nothing wrong with Buen Tua tomorrow night. And he's going to be, like, that's fine that you had that stance, Juju. It's a very rational stance that Juju has where, you know, he went out, look, he had serious injuries, not just head injuries, but his hip and his ankle. and it's like he went out there and he wanted to play. And as a sports fan, you love that, man. Like, you want him to go out and play. Far too often, I just a couple days ago was talking about, you know, on the Rich Paul podcast where Peyton Watson, you know, just, hey, like, he could play,
Starting point is 00:17:02 but I don't want to risk it because I want to get that money. Like, I can't play both sides where I'm mad at that and I'm also mad at the guy in Tua who wants to go out there and play. But at the same time, he was so unlikable last year, really over the last couple. of years. And if the Dolphin fan wants to boo that, go ahead and boo it, man. I don't know. You're giving them permission? I'm giving my opinion. You give my blessing. Yeah, I'm give my blessing. Yes, not permission. It's just not the greatest look, but your fans. You shouldn't care about the greatest look. This one comes off petty. I get both sides of it,
Starting point is 00:17:36 but maybe, just maybe, like, I mean alluded to. Some of the reason why he said all the bad stuff is because he literally sacrificed his body for... No one knows that. No one knows that. This team. Yeah, and for personal gain, too. But for this market, a lot of people were scared for his health. He sacrificed a lot. Let me just say right now, a lot of times we do this. Like, well, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'm pretty sure this dude has like this. Come on. I saw the fingers. No, but do we know that that's why his behavior is what it is? I'm going to tell you right now. Now, I don't know anything. I haven't talked to anybody. I'm going with 98% certainty that a lot of the behavior, a lot of the stuff,
Starting point is 00:18:17 Maybe not all, because like you said, like Royce White, like sometimes you could be both. You could be a d-a-d-a-d- also has issues. And 22. Right, all those things. But I'm going 98% certainty, Scramble X. That dude, like, have anybody have ever seen in front of a camera and microphone and then what happened on the field? I have never seen a stronger connection.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Now, the question becomes when, because he will, when to a throws an interception tomorrow night, Do both fan bases, Dolphins fans and Falcon fans cheer? Are they both happy? Oh, you want the Falcons fans are like, don't let this guy play well because we don't want him to be our quarterback. Of course. So you're rooting against them. At the same time, the Dolphins fans hate him, then they're rooting against them. Maybe he is like just unloved and he's just feeling all the pressure.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Right? Like, maybe that's part of it. Well, again, to the belt conversation that we had earlier. Holy shit. The easiest upbringing. How much of that CT is from that? What would the total number of games be if we were putting up, if we were set in the line, number of games as a starter, Fortua for the remainder of his career.
Starting point is 00:19:32 As a starter? Starting the game, what would the line be? For the rest of his career, what would the line be? Four and a half? I think that's a good number. It's played a lot of football. I don't know if he's... He's 28 years old.
Starting point is 00:19:45 This is going really poor. I would say a guy that's played that much football that's familiar with NFL offenses can just be around the game as a backup for a very long time. Yeah, but if he's a backup then someone would start. I'd say like
Starting point is 00:19:59 three and a half. That whole... And that's me expecting him to be named starter. Because I don't think he'll be started for long. He kind of stinks. I got six and a half. Six and a half. Yeah, because it's always that one D
Starting point is 00:20:16 and rusher who might just end the whole thing. Yeah, he's always a hit away. I mean, everybody is. Well, that's why your number's way too high. Yeah, six, as I'm saying, six and a half, like, why is it that high for you? They're going to be six times at least that a coach is going to say, Tua, you're starting this week. That's another thing. Like, I, you're really going to show him. I think he knows that South Florida feels a certain type of way about him. And we all see what's happening here. This would be one of the more improbable career resurrections we've ever seen. very clearly the end for this guy. He's clueless. I bet you he has no idea.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I think he's closer to clueless. I bet he has no clue. You know what I'm looking forward to the most? Him being asked about the reception that he got and seeing what he says. It's going to be ugly. He's going to say the same thing Deshawn Watson said, right? No. He has an ability to say.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I hope that's what he says. Say pretty bad things in front of a microphone. Yep. I bet you he's going to say something like, I didn't hear it or something like that. Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks? I know it well.
Starting point is 00:21:26 It's usually when I show up. Everybody goes crazy. Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Quervo. I'm walking like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night. It has that effect on people.
Starting point is 00:21:40 It does. You usually take the credit for it. But again, it's the Quervo. effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it quervo. Keep it quervo, baby. Dan Levitar. Analytics have slash R ruining the game. We're playing AI hoops. That's his team. His team's in the forefront of all that. Damn's ass, don't steal my thunder. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Jonathan Sasselow. I get carried away. This is the Dan Levitar show. In the same conversation of Bain, did you see that Brad Stevens said that,
Starting point is 00:22:17 Jaylen Brown's number will be retired in Boston. So I wonder what that reception going to be like game one back because that crowd can get a little. Oh, they're going to be, they're going to cheer him, right? You would think so. Really? Racism is a hell of a drug. Yeah, I don't know. Like the first time and Jalen also has a tendency recently to say things that might work against his interest.
Starting point is 00:22:41 But the Celtic fan was also upset that he was traded. No, this is one where the fans 100% are behind. Good, good, yeah. I would hope so. He deserves to be welcome back warmly. Because he didn't ask to get traded. They threw him into Yonis talks, and they didn't ask. I hear you, but he also did the thing that everybody in the league would seize on, like, oh, this guy wants out.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Yeah, right. But people, but I think so. My favorite season. That was a very clear. That's true. That's true. That's true. Like, I don't think, I don't think, I mean, Juju could tell us as the.
Starting point is 00:23:14 as the only former Celtics fan in the house, like that's not how they look at them. Like the fans, the fans fans, all they think about is this dude was a finals MVP. I know that's how Juju looks out of me, followed him to the new franchise. Exactly. That's my boy.
Starting point is 00:23:28 If the Celtic fan liked what they got in return, then I think maybe this gets complicated. Right. But Brad Stevens also has enough cachet with that fan base. Like that's who you're ultimately mad at here, right? You've got to be mad at somebody because, like, this was a bad trade and you made the Sixers stronger. And because you made the Sixers stronger, they ended up getting LeBron and becoming even stronger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:56 But who do you point the finger at here? Paul George. It's always Paul George's fault. So speaking of NBA, I mean, did you see this yesterday where – do you regularly listen? You listen to a lot of podcasts, right? Yes. How many do you listen to regular? How many are in the rotation?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Regular rotation. In the rotation. Okay, so all of my stuff, Cinephobe, basketball, Luminati, here's the science. You listen back to your own shows? Just like Greg Cody. Once is a fan and one says quality control. Okay, there's dead air at 204. I don't, well, no, once it's out, it's out.
Starting point is 00:24:31 But I do in terms of like, this is how we should do this next time. Especially Cynophobe, there's a lot of bits sometimes. They work. Sometimes they don't. So it's like, oh, we need to start bringing this back. What do you think that percentage is of working to not working? Probably a strong like 75, 80% work. That's really good.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah. Good for you. We're good. We have a really good podcast. I don't know if you guys heard, right? But the other ones, the non-amine version, I listened to bad friends with Andrew Santino and Bobby Lee. Okay, go on. I listened to Game Over with Max Kellerman and Rich Paul.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Oh, is that right? Okay. Keynes Insight. Yeah. Talking with Tash. with Tashay and the hockey show and Alleyoop and Zad Show 1.0. I don't know what happened in that one. That's in my past.
Starting point is 00:25:19 We don't talk about that. I'm a look forward kind of guy. Zaslo's show 2.0. I've been on the feed and it hasn't updated in a couple of years. I said maybe something wrong going on. So, well, it's because it was a radio show. It was not a podcast. Email Len Weiner.
Starting point is 00:25:32 So anyway, Draymond Green on the latest Dramon Green show. And yes, of course, Draymond Green has a podcast because everybody is a podcast if you don't. You're a huge loser. And Draymond Green spoke about his former teammate, Clay Thompson, after he just, you know, was introduced to the Miami media. Give this a listen. I don't like how everybody's trying to act like, oh, man, it's Clay Thompson.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Like, Clay to the heat. Like, this is Clay of 2018. The reason I don't like it is because I feel like everybody's trying to set Clay up for failure. And so I'm going to say it right here right now. Let's stop acting like 2017 as Clay is going to Miami. I wish sports media would speak to it more like when Ray Allen went to Miami. Like that's the role I'd expect to Clay. Don't try to set my brother like you about to get the 2017 Clay so the moment you don't y'all can bash him.
Starting point is 00:26:25 That's bullshit. He's going to year 16 of his career. We obviously know the injuries that he's face. Yes, he is going to go provide shooting because he shoot the lights out the ball and when he's 60, he'll be able to shoot the lights out the ball. but don't try to build it up. Like, oh, man, look what happened
Starting point is 00:26:42 so that y'all can tear him down where he's not averaging 20 points a game. That's bullshit. That's what media does, and I don't like that. And so I'm going to say it right here. Let's look at him more like you looked at Ray Allen when Ray Allen was going to Miami.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Oh, by the way, when sports media was still kind of a good thing. You know, you could appreciate Ray Allen going to Miami in the road that he was going to go play. when sports media wasn't trying to build someone up just to slice them down. Straw man! I want to go around the room real quick. Jesus. I want to go around the room real quick, all right?
Starting point is 00:27:19 And I want a one word answer. You could either say yes or you could say no. And we'll start with Amin. Amin, have you heard a single person try and make the case that the heat are getting 2017 Clay Thompson and not what they essentially want out of him now, which is a version of Ray Allen. Have you heard anyone say that? Yes or no.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Jeremy, have you heard anyone say that? No. Mike Ryan, have you heard... Okay. Trista. You don't even know what I'm going to ask. Juju, have you heard anyone say that? No, sir, I have not. No.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Not everything that... One person. We just heard him. Raymond Green. Everything that Draymond complains about with the media, he does. It's him. He does all of those things. This is a total straw man.
Starting point is 00:28:10 There is not a single person who has said that the heat are going to get some different version of Clay Thompson, essentially, than the one you saw the last couple of years in Dallas. You think he's going to be a little bit better than that because he's going to play with a superstar now in Janus, but no one has said anything different. He's put the quarter in Zaz, and you're playing right. into it. Like he put the quarter into you and he's putting the quarter into everybody and now we're talking about his show and you're all outraged and your court is all levels through the roof. I saw a Draymond in the south of France
Starting point is 00:28:45 and I was like, yo, why are you always coming at me on threads? Why are you always doing this? Why are you always making these crazy arguments? And he goes, I have nothing better to do. Is this a true story? This is a true story. I am bored. I am like painfully bored
Starting point is 00:29:01 and I have one just say shit. Wait, wait, wait, where Where'd you see Draymore? South the France. Damn. I'll do Draymond one better. To compare him to Ray Allen is really unfair, and you shouldn't be doing that to Clay Thompson. Dremont Green.
Starting point is 00:29:19 You shouldn't be. That is a really high. Because you think Ray Allen is much better. At this age in their career, yeah, Ray was a constant. I don't know. Dude, that guy was a physical specimen. No one worked harder. Physically, Ray was.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Even though he's older, he's in great. Ray would tire out opposing defenses. Ray took years off of Dwayne Wade's career just from Dwayne Wade having to chase him around at an advanced age. They just approach conditioning a totally different way. One night I was leaving Hooters in Atlanta back in the day, and I was like, damn, that brother, tall at hell. I like, that brother, tall as hell. It was Ray Allen running around Atlanta because they played the Hawks the next day at 1.30 a.m. I'll do it too, by the way, all right?
Starting point is 00:30:05 So get the look at me, Louis, ready for me as well. Speaking of tall, I saw Vin Baker this morning. He's really tall. That's who that was. I saw him in the lobby. You know what is that? Hold on. Because that wasn't even, there was no look at me, Louie, that he just saw Vin Baker.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Yeah. That's it. Yeah. That's just a name drop. Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks? I know it well. It's usually when I show up. Everybody goes crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah. You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Quervo. I'm walking like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night. It has that effect on people. It does. You usually take the credit for it.
Starting point is 00:30:51 But again, it's the Quervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it quervo. Keep it quervo, baby. Down Levertar. You're going to go to Buffalo with Bernie Parton. Jeremy Mike Ryan and the Jigs. This is the Dan Levitaree Show.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I was actually at Clay Thompson Press Conference, unlike Draymond Green. And with that part of it, not even going to give me the look at me, Louis. With that part of it, the best part of what Draymond said is, well, you should be comparing with Ray Allen. It was the third question or the fourth question. It's the only thing everyone is saying. Hey, Spoh. How similar is this to when Ray Allen showed up here?
Starting point is 00:31:42 Hold on. It was the fourth question. but probably not by the media, right? Probably some smart fans or maybe a former player asked that, right? Someone in new media. Bam walked in and was like, hey, I remember watching Ray Allen. Is it going to be like that standing in the back? Hey, hey, hey, coach, hey, coach.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Is this more like Ray Allen than it is getting 2017 Clay? It's ridiculous. It's exactly the comparison that everyone's making. And you talk about the conditioning, Ray was the type of guy who kept himself in that type of shape, but something that Clay brought up unprovoked, not even with the media necessarily asking about it, It was like he was excited about the conditioning test.
Starting point is 00:32:16 He said, I think it's going to be really good for me to get into the heat type of shape. Yep. Because I need that. This revitalization of my career. I need to be in that type of shape. He has spoken in a manner that he is excited to be pushed to the way that he understands this franchise pushes its players. Ray Allen was not a reclamation project. There were not questions about his physical ability.
Starting point is 00:32:37 They don't need him to be a reclamation project. Clay Thompson's year last year in Dallas is virtually the same. same numbers that Ray Allen had here. They're not looking for reclamation. Mike, the only thing that Mike brings up in terms of the Ray Allen comp is Ray Allen's physique was just, he was in great conditioning at any age. Ray Allen right now is probably in better shape of Clay Thompson. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:01 But other than that, I think Clay's a better defensive player than Ray was at that stage of the career. This Clay? Yes, this Clay is a better. On ball. Than Ray Allen in 2000 in the end. At least Clay still got some size on him. Like Ray didn't have much size.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Ray was not guarding anybody. Ray was not guarding anybody. Ray was doing this. Like, which way are you going to blow past? Well, I'm going to make sure you blow past me this way as opposed to that way. And that's cool because he was not there to provide that. I'm not saying Clay Thompson is still 2017 Clay defensively. I'm saying where Ray Allen was and where Clay is right now, defensively,
Starting point is 00:33:36 Clay's ahead of him. That's all I'm saying. I want to put it out there right now, okay? And you could always send on Twitter or what have you. I want to know who has said that the heater getting 2017 Clay Thompson. You just heard from him. She never heard that. I'm telling you, everything that Draymond Green comes after, you know, the old guard media about,
Starting point is 00:33:59 he's the ringleader of all of those things. But now, like, Trista's kind of ruined it where I was like, how could this guy be not self-aware enough? And it's like, oh, he is. He's just, he's doing basically a less funny version of what Gilbert Arenas does. Because I've been telling you guys for years, Gilbert, there's nothing Gilbert says that he's sincere about. It's everything is work, everything is a bit. He's just not only trolling, he's trolling for maximum self-entertainment. He just wants to throw stuff out there and laugh his ass off, right?
Starting point is 00:34:33 Dremont does it, and I don't even get the feeling that he's laughing at the reaction. I just feel like he's just doing it to do it. So that's a real story, Tristan. Dremont told you that he is literally just messing around. Yeah. I saw him in line at the Aftys, and I was like, I'm going to come up to him and talk to him because... There it is. It is boozy.
Starting point is 00:34:53 South of France. Afties. It's bougie. And that's what he said. So I've changed my entire lens on looking at his content where I'm like, oh, he knows exactly what he's doing. How many minutes have we spent on Draymond? Well, the only thing I'll say here, Trista is, in a weird way, he's kind of sh** on Clay
Starting point is 00:35:13 by even having this conversation the way he's doing. I'm looking out for Clay. No, you're not. He's a guy that's tearing him down. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of... Don't expect him to be good. He's not good anymore. That's really what he's saying. I'm tired of all these people lifting someone up to tear him down. So I'm just going to tear him down so that I can lift him back up. And as soon as he falls flat on his face, y'all are going to be there to laugh at him. Yeah, I'm allowed to say my friend sucks. You can't, but I'll tell you my friend sucks. Probably a shoot text of Clay. Hey, man, had your back today.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Right. No one was having this conversation. Juju, you went to the Marlins game last night, huh? Yes, sir. Enjoy that? You've been there before, though. I've been there once before, but it was my first time seeing the Boston Red Sox lose. Salute to my boy, Jeremy, man.
Starting point is 00:35:57 He had that thing rocking, too. I'm talking about every other. Jeremy had that thing rocking. Yes, I did. Put it on the pool. Did Jeremy have that thing rocking? It is so weird. Jujo, put that in the pool.
Starting point is 00:36:05 It is so weird to see Jeremy at a Marlins game. environment? Oh, man. Is he like a different journey? Completely different. He's confident. Hey, fans. Like, it's just, it's a little.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Hey, he's, he does television. It's great. It's there because this doesn't happen the moment I open it out. It's a perfect role for him. That's what an in stadium host should do. Yeah, that's right. Be peppy. There's no like, there's no, like, there's no bully.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Like Gabby Sanchez doesn't bully. There's no bully. Tommy Hutton does. Yeah, but when you're doing the in stadium stuff, there's no foil. No, no. The in stadium stuff is like, exactly. what works within my sort of jovial personality. On the broadcast, I'm sort of like the quirky guy doing lists of Nintendo names because
Starting point is 00:36:49 George Kirby is pitching for the other team. Your foil when you're doing the end stadium stuff is just the ambient hum of the AC overpowering everything. And we got that thing rocking fifth most wins in baseball at home. You look like a soda drinker too.

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