The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - A Hegseth Conspiracy, ICE Judge ARRESTED, & The Pentagon's Makeup Room

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

The media reports on a new turn in the Pete Hegseth Signal app scandal begging the question if there’s a deeper conspiracy going on to drive a wedge in the Trump Administration.  A war criminal who... helped orchestrate the Rwandan genocide hid out as a Long Island beekeeper for decades. The New York Times reports Democrats are now trying to be “dark woke” to be more edgy. Pedro Pascal calls J.K. Rowling a “heinous loser” after she celebrated the Supreme Court’s ruling regarding trans women’s legal identities.  FBI agents arrest Hannah Dugan, a county judge in Milwaukee, for allegedly helping an illegal alien avoid an arrest by ICE.  Pete Hegseth introduces the “No More Walking On Eggshells” policy. The media goes after Pete Hegseth over the makeup room at the Pentagon. Dana goes Red State RINO Hunting exposing how Florida ended their baseless investigation into Hope Florida, a Casey DeSantis-linked foundation, amid lack of cooperation. American Suppressor Association President, Knox Williams, joins us to explain how the DOJ is reconsidering its position on suppressors. Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Ground Newshttps://Groundnews.com/DANAGet 40% off the unlimited access Vantage plan.Home Title Lockhttps://hometitlelock.com/danaProtect your home! Get a FREE title history report + 14 days of coverage with code DANA. Check out the Million Dollar TripleLock—terms apply.Relief Factorhttps://relieffactor.comTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Goldcohttps://DanaLikesGold.com My personal gold company - get your GoldCo 2025 Gold & Silver Kit. PLUS, you could qualify for up to 10% in BONUS silverByrnahttps://byrna.com/danaDon’t leave yourself or your loved ones without options. Visit Byrna.com/Dana receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://patriotmobile.com/DanaDana’s personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://humann.comSupport your metabolism and healthy blood sugar levels with Superberine by HumanN. Find it now at your local Sam’s Club next to SuperBeets Heart Chews.  Tax Network USAhttps://TNUSA.com/DANADon’t let the IRS’s aggressive tactics control your life; empower yourself with Tax Network USA’s support.  Reach a USA-based agent @ 1(800) 958-1000 - Don’t fight the IRS alone.KelTechttps://KelTecWeapons.comKeltec Innovation & Performance at its bestAll Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/DanaCode Dana10 for 10% off your entire order

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This just as to the controversy around Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. So as you said, according to two sources, we're learning that Hegseth used the signal app on a personal computer in his office that was connected to the internet on an unsecured commercial line. What you mentioned is called a dirty line. And that was installed at Pete Hegsett's request so he could use the signal app on his personal computer. So why is this important? Well, a commercial internet line does not have the firewall protections that the Department of Defense's unlaw. unclassified system has. So that makes it potentially susceptible to being monitored, particularly if sensitive information is being communicated. Now, this, of course, comes after previous
Starting point is 00:00:40 controversies of Heggseth sharing details about an imminent attack on Houthis in Yemen in a signal chat group, him along with other members of Trump's National Security Council. And then new revelations more recently that there was a second chat group that Hegseth had been using with Try not to be conspiracy theorist here. Really try not to. But I kind of make, it kind of makes me wonder if you look at it. And my friend Josh Hammer has a really good piece out about this today. And I was actually thinking about this when I, because he told me he's like, oh, you're going to like my column tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Because I, you know, I'm, we, we, we tend to like sect F. Hegg Seth here, not just because it's fun to say his name. But because he's more in line, I think, with, with most. voters and he doesn't he's not a neocon you know and that's kind of a kind of a big deal he's not a neocon and so i was reading this piece from it's over at newsweek and i tend to agree with it actually and it's the pete heggseth red herring and the gop's foreign policy civil war and i honestly agree a hundred percent now one of the things that hammer highlights in this and I think it's I think it's important is that there are some that I don't know if I would I don't know if I would say that they're in POTUS's circle but they definitely are you know
Starting point is 00:02:12 influential at least with him and they are you know they're fans not fans of Iran but they're what I would think is Iranian light right you know what I mean like they're they're kind of Iranian light a little bit and So I think that some of this is due to that, the targeting of Hegseth in this manner. So we're going to dive into this because when you look at the people that have been leaving, when you look at the folks that have been walking away from, I think what, his chief of staff, there have been a couple of others. Some of them like this Caldwell guy are very interesting, especially when you look at, again,
Starting point is 00:02:54 where they stand on Iran. I think that that is playing into this. I think that that and that Hegseth is trying to get rid of some of these people that are soft on this because they're because Trump is not soft on Iran by any stretch of the word. He's been way to he's been very America first about this and not neocon at all.
Starting point is 00:03:18 He's not like Barack Obama. I see a lot of these policies. Honestly, it's like they're Barack Obama policies that are trying to manifest within the Trump administration. And it's really weird. And I think that that's what so much of this is is part of. So welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you are at the top of this first hour this Friday. So this piece that I was there's just telling you about when, because it's very much like the Kavanaughing. I almost said this wrong. The Kavanaughing of Hegseth. Doesn't it seem like that? Isn't this the same playbook that the Left always uses every single time. You guys remember the Christine Blasey Ford spectacle, right?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Everybody remembers that? Christine Blasey Ford and the way that she went after, the way that she went after Brett Kavanaugh and the accusations and the theater of it and the building up of it and all of this. So it's like the same playbook but for Hegseth. I mean, that's what it seems like. It's the same playbook but for him. So they were they've accused him of what, of being a bronze star veteran who's an alcoholic. He's an alcoholic. He's a whore. He's a rapist. He's all this stuff. They wanted to sink the nomination. They weren't able to, I think more than more than the left wanting to sink the nomination, I think they wanted to prove Trump's vulnerability by torpedoing his pick and doing it before the pick could even. and you know get up get off the ground and running that's honestly it's really what i feel like they that that's what this is you know the whole saying you know your god can bleed that's what they're i feel like that's what they're trying to do i'm not being a it sounds like i'm being a conspiracy
Starting point is 00:05:11 theorist but i'm not really now to this getting into this further uh obviously they didn't they weren't successful with all of that and then you've had signal gate they've they keep going they keep going after signal gate as you remember with geoffrey goldberg which by the way why did Trump welcome Jeffrey Goldberg to a sit down? You don't reward the enemy. Your ideological enemy, you don't reward them. What on earth? Cain thoughts? I was, I'm like, well, you know, there is a saying, keep your friends close. No, you don't. You keep the closest, you don't invite them to the flipping White House. I don't know. I think Trump likes the idea of the image of him not bothered by that and that it's so egregious what this guy did that Trump's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:55 I'm just going to just want to hear them out. Where the heck are they coming from? You really think that? I don't know. I don't think that he, obviously, I think he, you know, everybody was bothered over the Goldberg thing. But I don't, you just don't reward your ideological opponent. You just don't. Now they're trying to say what you heard from this audio that we played in.
Starting point is 00:06:16 They're trying to say that he was sharing sensitive information about the Houthi attack plans and, oh, all of this stuff. And there was a profile done about his wife. and they were getting into his history, his marital history. Politics are ridiculous. And then they got into, then there's this story of Dan Caldwell. So you have three relatively pretty high ranking DOD officials. You have the deputy chief of staff, that's Darren Selnick, Dan Caldwell, who's described as a long-time had Seth friend.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And then you also have the chief, chief of staff to the deputy defense secretary. they were placed on leave and they were fired because of the leak investigation. Caldwell has been friends with Hegg Seth or at least been an associate of his for a long time. I'm really hesitant to say friend because the media will like to set up these false associations so that they can great, they can elevate someone that they're using as a cudgel based on that false, that construction of a false association. So they said that the way that the reports have been going, oh, Caldwell, you know, he had to go, this leak, leak gate and Signalgate, leaking investigation. But here's where it gets sticky. It highlights the division, I think, within the Trump administration itself on Iran. Because Caldwell is what you would call a dove.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And one of the things that Hammer does is he was talking about the people in the Trump administration that are very, very dove-y and that are, I wouldn't say pro-Iran, but they are definitely not where Trump is on Iran. And Caldwell is one of them. Caldwell is absolutely one of them. He actually was praising back in, what, 2015. He was, he had praised the, some of the moves that Obama and Biden had made with regards to Iran. There's nothing to praise there, by the way, nothing at all whatsoever. And he was even, uh, the negotiator, he was the parcel to that, that 2015 Iran nuclear deal. So there's a lot here that makes me think that this is more than just like leak gate. Honestly, it seems like there
Starting point is 00:08:32 are people within the administration that are trying to torpedo any movement on Iran and that through at least the DOD, they're trying to snuff some of those people out. Honestly, that's what it seems like. But one of the things that Caldwell told the press is that, quote, the reality is operational. Hegg Seth is just not up to this. Can I ask a question, though? Who is? But I'm not asking it in the way you think that I'm asking. I'm not asking for names.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Who is? You're talking about an entrenched bureaucracy. Kane, how long do you think some of those people have been in these positions? Like, forever. Decades. They get appointed by somebody in the 70s and they stay there until they die. It's forever. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It's forever. And I think that that's kind of part of it. They're trying to kneecap him because they don't want to lose. I don't know what the obsession is with Iran with some of the left-leaning members of the Republican Party and Democrats, but they have one. And this is, I think, this division laid bare. There's also an interesting bit about Steve Wickhoff. He's the Middle East Special envoy. He's a little light as well.
Starting point is 00:09:50 with regards to this. Now, he's a billionaire. He's a real estate developer. I don't know. I'm kind of questioning, I will say, I don't, I'm kind of questioning his credentials. I mean, I'm sure he's smart. He's clearly successful. And that's all well and good. But what is his understanding of the Middle East? I know he's done business with Qatar. He sold his Parkland Hotel in New York City to the Qatar Investment Authority for, I don't know, like, Billions and billions. Almost like half a trillion dollars, I think. Like six and, or no, sorry, half a billion dollars. And he was praising when he was, he was on with Tucker Carlson and he was praising Cutter and saying that they were a godsend and, or no, saying that Whitkoff, what, Whitkoff was described as a godsend. Wittkoff was saying that, you know, they're a, they're a chief regional ally. They're not, but they're an ally with Iran. They're not an ally with us. I think that they try to triangulate and they try to have a foot in both worlds, but that doesn't mean that they're somehow being diplomatic. That just means that they're being strategists.
Starting point is 00:10:59 So my reason I'm bringing this up to you is because I have some people asking me, which I didn't before until this story broke. I've had, I've seen discussion and comments and I've had people reach out, what do you think about this Hegg Seth stuff? I still think that it's, I still think that it's subterfugee. I still think that they're trying to kneecap him and that the cracks, the motivation for this seems to kind of indicate that it might be somewhat rooted in
Starting point is 00:11:28 positions on Iran. I mean, it's, everything's still coming out, but that's kind of what I'm seeing. I feel like all of the people that are criticizing Heg Seth are very pro-Iran. That's what it seems like to me. Now, I could be wrong. I rarely am. Actually, I've never
Starting point is 00:11:46 been wrong. I've never been wrong. No, I've never been wrong. The only time I've ever been wrong is when I decided to switch up my yogurt brand and I was wrong because it was gritty and it tasted bad. I eat the Greek yogurt and then I went to this thing called New News, which I joke and say it's no-nose. It's supposed to be no-nose because it's no-nose for you. It tastes like horrible. It tastes horrible. It tastes like a tragedy.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And that's the only time I've ever been wrong. So we're going to talk more about this. Also what we have on deck today. We've got a bunch of cultural issues. We've got some of the latest as it pertains to the president's meetings with some of these world leaders. We're going to get into it. Elon Musk versus Scott Besant. That story is now coming to light. Remember the story the other week when Carolyn Levitt, his press secretary? They were asking her, well, we heard that Elon Musk and Scott Besant got into a screaming match.
Starting point is 00:12:42 She's like, it was just a debate. I think you're going to have debates and you're going to have people yell and scream. I've never been in a, I've been in, I can't tell you how many rooms where political people have screamed at each other, thrown things and pounded on tables. Not even kidding. It's completely normal. Some of them are way dramatic, more dramatic than others. I kid you not. So that's not entirely abnormal. But again, another difference. This is what happens when you have coalitions because you're going to have people that are going to be opposite each other on different issues. And as it relates to some economic issues, that Scott Besant and Elon Musk, just like you have Heg-Seth. with the pro-Iran and the people who don't think that Iran is going to be able to be glowed up into some beacon of peace. We're going to talk about all of that. Oh, and we got a story pertaining to immigration. We had Maryland man. Now I'm going to introduce you to Long Island, man.
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Starting point is 00:15:17 Geoscientists discovered it. They say it's playing a critical role in preventing a massive eruption. Soft-eye. It's molten silicate materials in super-critical water. A liquid light gas that forms after water exceeds its critical point of 370 degrees, 74 degrees Celsius, and porous rock. And it's a lid, essentially. It's trapping pressure and heat below it. So it's like a pimple about ready to pop is what it sounds like.
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Starting point is 00:16:05 Basically, they're studying it through the sound and the reverberation. Interesting. I'm going to go down to here to this one. the name is change climate change a teen was charged with allegedly starting a massive new jersey wildfire joseph cling i thought it was climate change joseph cling 19 apparently started the jones road wildfire 19 years old 15,200 acres it continued to burn all day yesterday and still this morning uh he's charged with second degree aggravated arson he apparently allegedly purposely destroyed a forest third degree arson he recklessly endangered buildings or structures it was apparently he like did not
Starting point is 00:16:41 He burned what would and didn't like make sure it was out before he left. It was what it was. This, let's see. Oh, this is a crazy story. A transgender baby killer claims Trump is to blame for his prison rapes at an Indiana jail. Yeah, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:16:56 This sounds like some juicy Somalié stuff. This crazy dude who literally punched a baby to death. I'm not kidding you. That's why he's in jail. He decided to change his gender and he wanted to, he wanted special treatment. And then he said when he got into the prison, the male prisoners assaulted him saying, well, Trump's not, he's going to pardon us. I don't think that happened, but I do think that he probably was somebody's girlfriend in jail, which, you know, that's what happens to child predators stick with us. I've said for years now that our media is just garbage. Legacy press is garbage. How does the average person know if a news story, if the source is accurate or if it's biased? Ground news can be a great solution for that. Ground news can show you the stories and the sources of the day and then they give you details about their sourcing, how reliable the reporting is, and
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Starting point is 00:18:58 Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you. It's fray. Happy fray to you. I want to tell you about Long Island Man. Because we've been talking so much about Maryland man, Maryland man, that innocent Maryland dad, who doesn't happen to be like a woman beating human trafficking gangbanger, but whatever. Let me tell you about Long Island man.
Starting point is 00:19:18 This is the New York Post. This is a headline that's a big mouthful. War criminal who helped orchestrate Rwandan genocide hid out as Long Island beekeeper for decades after lying on his immigration documents. hmm and he's from and this was in this was in long island so he's a literal convicted Rwandan genocide war criminal he was a little beekeeper i didn't i see a movie something like this with jason statham sidebar total sidebar pause the movie i think it was called beekeeper i'm looking at cane i think it was called beekeeper and it was jason statham and it was a great movie
Starting point is 00:20:03 There was no character development. It was just, hi, we're here. The plot is ass-kicking. That's what we're doing. That's called the beekeeper. Last year. I watched that and it was a great movie. I liked, did you see, have you seen it?
Starting point is 00:20:14 I have not. Although I do like Jason Statham. I need to check this out. I think there's another movie that's out of his right now. Steve said it. He didn't know we were playing Madlibs today. Well, that's in more than one way. That headline was Mad Libby.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, it was absolutely mad-libbing. So this dude was, he's a beekeeper. Well, is he though? he acted like a beekeeper and he was in Long Island for 20 years he lied on all of his immigration papers about his past Faustin
Starting point is 00:20:41 not going to say this name right Kane NSA B-U-M-U-M-U-K-U-N-Z-I Nizabum-Zi That sounds right The way you said it Nizabum-ku Nizabum-Mu
Starting point is 00:20:57 Kizu Kizu That's right 65 Came to the U.S. in 2004 lied on all of his green cards, his naturalization papers. He said he didn't have any part in the 1994 Rwandan genocide. He even did media interviews about his refugee status. And he developed connections with wealthy Hamptonites,
Starting point is 00:21:18 wealthy progressive people in the Hamptons. They freaks. And then they apparently paid his bond, $250,000 bond after he was arrested so he could continue caring for bees. Hmm. Because he was a beekeeper. I guess they weren't his bees.
Starting point is 00:21:38 He was carrying for someone else's bees. Nizabimisu Kizu Kizu Kizzi, who was a beekeeper in his native country, he continued it here. He was also what they call a sector counselor in when he was in Rwanda. He literally directed the killings and rapes and participated in the violence against the Tutsis in Cabrizzi during the 100-day genocide. that was carried, the ethnic cleansing that was carried out. Nizibusi of commutes Kizzi also assured folks during public meetings when he was in Rwanda
Starting point is 00:22:11 that they would be protected and then private meetings, he told the, he would tell the opposing factions that he was going to kill the other ethnic group. He set up roadblocks to stop them from fleeing. I mean, it's just horrific. And one massacre, apparently he told one armed faction to kill a group of a different faction that were in an administrative office. and he apparently also beat some person to death
Starting point is 00:22:32 by clubbing them in the head. So that's this guy. He encouraged people, he encouraged the factions to rape the women as a genocidal tool, all of this. And he was there
Starting point is 00:22:45 in Long Island forever. 20 years. And he also traveled abroad. He went to Ivory Coast. He was in Togo just recently in March. He was in Madagascar. He,
Starting point is 00:22:59 I mean, he lived in the Ivory Coast for a decade prior to him coming to the United States. So he's traveled for, he's been a fugitive forever. How are you literally a guy directing rape as a tool of war, a weapon of war in Rwanda? And yet you're able to come here and live as a beekeeper of all places in Long Island. Right? Isn't that weird? It's weird. That no one, that didn't tip anybody off, no one's like, hmm, would you say your past was again?
Starting point is 00:23:29 It's a little odd. They approved his green card in 2007 after he explicitly denied ever engaging in genocide, and he denied ever committing a crime of moral turpitude. He applied to become a citizen in 2016. It's been pending ever since. They could deport him if they convict him. Interpol Rwanda issued a notice that he's wanted for genocidal crimes in 2016. His client says, no, no, no, he's a victim.
Starting point is 00:23:55 He's a law-abiding beekeeper and a gardener, simple gardener. he was the victim but there are tons of witnesses who've all given statements to authorities that yeah we watched him beat a guy to death in the head yeah we literally watched him like help hold women captive so they could be raped as a as a weapon of war all of these people are coming out saying this so I don't know I he's just a long island dad cane guys he's a long island dad oh he's got to think of the bees keeps bees but that beekeeper movie though it is is a great movie. I'm not kidding you. I don't know anything about the guy's past. I don't think they ever got into that. It's a plot hole that nobody cares about because if I watch a Jason
Starting point is 00:24:37 Statham movie, I'm not watching to see his Oscar-level acting. Okay. I'm not watching to see although he is good and Oscar-level. He's a great actor, but I'm not watching him to see a Ralph Fine's performance. Okay, I'm watching him because I believe it when he punches people to death. And that's what I want to see. Sometimes I just want a movie where the guy comes out and all you know about his character, he just goes, I'm the good guy. I'm going to plate this bad guy. He's deaf. And then he does it. And you're like, yay, that's a great movie. That's what I like. I'm a simple person. You know, I don't need all the other garbage with it. Just, you know, show me that. So this is just a simple Long Island beekeeper, guys.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I wonder if there were signs. I mean, that he literally was a general and a Rwandan genocide. That's a pretty particular skill set. Were there signs? Just. I feel like this is going to be a movie. It ought to be. So a couple of things to get into here. So we've got, we've been following all of the latest targeting of Hegg Seth and others. Did you see, I have this New York Times piece that I wanted to show you. I'm trying to find out what the motivation is here. New York Times piece, what is dark woke? Have you ever heard of that? I've never heard of dark, woke. The subhead, Democrats are trying out a new attitude. It's provocative. It's edgy, and it's perilously towing the line of not being too offensive. Basically, it's because they cuss, I think, is what the point is.
Starting point is 00:26:14 It said they went back to the presidential primary, and they boil it down to, quote, it requires being crass but discerning, rude, but only to a point. And it has a name called, excuse me, called dark woke. how about just like assertive you vocabulary challenged feeble minded half wits how about
Starting point is 00:26:39 assertive curt blunt no no no we're going to totally full on idiocracy it it's dark woke doesn't that person look assertive no that person doesn't look dark woke this is the dumbest stuff ever
Starting point is 00:26:55 it started as a meme but now they're actually trying to make it a thing. They say this is just the lack of awareness in this. Can I read this graph to you? The lack of awareness. Democrats don't know who they are. They don't even know how they act. Listen to this. Quote, outside the party, the dirtbag left, a term for a cohort of leftist provocateurs who eschewish civility politics inspired headlines for their unrestrained orision of conservatives and liberals alike. When have they never not been? that. Right? When have they never not been that? What do you mean? That they've always eschewed civility politics. When has the left been super civil? I can't tell you not the number
Starting point is 00:27:45 of protests I've been to where I've seen the left act. They, where is this? They act like they've been just kittens and sunshine this whole time. Now they're dark woke because damn it, Trump did it. Trump made them askew civility politics. That's what this is building up to. They do this in 2016, too. Of course, they cite Jasmine Crockett. And then they highlighted her argument with Marjorie Taylor Green. When Green was going on about fake eyelashes,
Starting point is 00:28:14 remember that was actually a brilliant hearing. And it is true, girl. You need to take them down a gauge. They don't all need to be 18s. And they said that they highlight Jasmine Crockett as somebody who's dark woke. They list to a number of other lawmakers. And then I realized I've seen these lawmakers, either they're on MSNBC or CNN cussing up a storm or they've got B-roll of them acting a fool at like some rally or speaking event.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And listen to this. They make this like this is all the right that has corrupted the precious innocent left. Democrats have embraced some aspects of the rights toolkit. Trump advisors like Elon Musk have used slurs and profanity. And now they said, now Democrats. politicians have encouraged or allowed more swearing. What? So the way that this New York Times piece reads is that the left was just they were all angels.
Starting point is 00:29:12 It was all kittens and sunshine. And they were all perfectly well-behaved people. They said, yes, ma'am, and no, ma'am. Yes, sir. No, sir. And they were just, they're so kind and so nice. And they prayed before every meal. and they went and they were very kind at all their...
Starting point is 00:29:29 This, nobody believes this. What in the world? If anything, the right has adopted the left. I think you have members of the woke. I think there is a woke right right now. And I've talked about this before. I actually have a chapter on it in the very last book that I wrote. Identity politics being incorporated and weaponized by some people on the right.
Starting point is 00:29:48 There's different factions of the right. But the left for them to act like they never ever were rude or aggressive, they've always ever been aggressive. And it's one of the reasons that certain Republicans were got more aggressive because they thought that they had to in order to be able to compete with this. This is, it's just, it's unwel. It's wild. And they said that, oh, well, they're now becoming more authentic. I think they're just devolving further. I mean, in the past, you know, when, when you would have, like, you know, James Carville, I'm going to use him as an example, because he's like one of the older, old guards that's, you know, out there on CNN, etc. It just seems like, you know, in the past, they were aggressive and they would, you know, all this to, he, James Carville has always cussed, but he's always made a point. What is Jasmine Crockett's point? She gets up there and she makes fun of people in wheelchairs. What is her point? I don't get it. This is, this is such a goofy article. culturally I tweeted about this
Starting point is 00:30:55 last night because I saw this article as I was getting ready to go to bed I was reading this and it has to do with Pedro Pescal do you guys know who he is Pedro Pescal was in
Starting point is 00:31:11 well my favorite role was as Oberwin whatever, Martel Oberyn Martel in Game of Thrones when he had his head crushed in I thought that was his best role I was one of my favorite scenes in all the TV Popped his head like a great
Starting point is 00:31:25 The Mountain did He fought him anyway So he has come out And he's attacking J.K. Rallying As you know They've had a massive legal fight And they had a big win in the UK Over defining what
Starting point is 00:31:38 You know protecting women And defining what they are And he has come out and attacked her He called her a loser Among several other things He was also in Mandalorian And he was quite quiet when
Starting point is 00:31:52 Gina Carano was attacked. Gina Carano just said was pointing out some fascistic elements of the left and they went at her over it and fired her from it. Hollywood reporter
Starting point is 00:32:04 says Pedro Pascal blasted J.K. Rallying for her trans tweets. He called her a heinous loser. He commented on Instagram calling her a heinous loser. He's also in The Last of Us, which I don't watch.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And he was responding to a host by an activist who criticized her for celebrating the UK Supreme Court. They had a big ruling last week saying that trans women should not be recognized as women and sex legally means biological sex. Rowling was on her boat. She was with a cigar and she said, I love it when a plan comes together. She's gloating and she has every right to. And she goes, I get the same royalties whether or not you read my books or burn them, enjoy your marshmallows.
Starting point is 00:32:46 And he went off on her saying, awful disgusting blank. is exactly right heinous loser behavior now one of the things that i've read is his sister apparently is he's got a well he's got a brother who pretends to be a girl it's not like actually his sister uh he's got a uh a sibling who a brother who came out and said that she was she was a girl and that's he like he's gone to events with her with him before he's got taking and his brother to events before he has spoken up in favor of trains issues before. That's why he was, I think that kind of gives you
Starting point is 00:33:28 some insight as to why he never said anything in defense of Gina Carano. And also, you get insight into this J.K. Rowling thing. He's making people mad too. Lorraine found this because he called Rachel Zegler an icon. This is a throwback. Well, not too much of a throwback. It's just March of last year. But after all the stuff with
Starting point is 00:33:48 Rachel Zegler and after she ruined the Snow White movie, he weighed in on it and now people are are kind of rolling their eyes at him he he called her an icon he's just he is he will Pedro Pascal is a pick me guy he will say whatever he has to say to ingratiate himself with Hollywood whatever he has to do he will do it and it's really one of the most emasculating things I've ever seen when I think of emasculation I think of Pedro Pascal. I thought this for a long time. Any man that doesn't have the balls to stick up for his co-worker, much less a female
Starting point is 00:34:25 co-worker, when she's being savaged unfairly and falsely in the press, you're just nothing but a sack of low testosterone. That's all Pedro Pascal is. He's a pick-me guy. He will kiss whatever backside he has to
Starting point is 00:34:42 and possibly more, I think, in order to get more traction in Hollywood. it's just it's cringe he tries so hard if you've ever seen any video of him any uh red carpet any red carpet appearance anything like that that's that's exactly what he tries to do it's really cringe our partners that help bring you the program it's our friends over at all family pharmacy this is such a great partner and i love all family pharmacy i myself am a customer they've i i was i've been super critical of how the government has operated and handled everything as it
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Starting point is 00:39:00 We're at the top of the second hour. Yeah, I absolutely believe that they have. This is so silly. For them trying to, their attempt to try to downplay. they've been talking to the United States. They are desperate to try to keep some sort of semblance of power. So welcome back. Channel 347 DirecTV is the stream. Of course, you can listen around the country. The chats at Rumble. Lots of not responsible for what goes down in there. But all good folks there. And then, of course, you can find us at YouTube X, Facebook, all those good things.
Starting point is 00:39:33 All right. I want to immediately get to this. This is, I think, one of the top stories today. And it is this story about this judge. People are finally getting arrested for breaking the law. It's kind of wild because for however long we weren't having that. We didn't have, it was lawlessness and disorder. And I guess they thought that the same was going to continue. It's not anymore. So this story, and I retweeted this earlier, I think Bill Malugian had the original report.
Starting point is 00:40:05 FBI director Cash Patel has announced. that the, that the FBI has arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on, after evidence that she obstructed an illegal arrest operation last week. And these judges, by refusing to uphold law and order themselves are, I mean, you're, you're culpable with a, you're engaging in criminality or helping these people. evade the law. It doesn't make any sense. And it's fine. I'm happy to see now justice actually finally being served. ABC had more on this. This judge, she was helping these illegal aliens evade arrest, is the story. She was a Milwaukee County Circuit judge. The FBI came in and arrested her.
Starting point is 00:40:58 She's being charged with two criminal counts of obstruction, impeding a proceeding before a department or agency of the United States and concealing an individual. to prevent his discovery and arrest, according to the criminal complaints that were unsealed this morning. Now, Cash Patel, FBI director, announced the arrest earlier today this morning in a social media post, which was then briefly deleted and reposted. He said, quote, just now the FBI arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on charges of obstruction and after evidence of Judge Dugan obstructing an immigration arrest operation last week. He added that we believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, Eduardo Ruiz, allowing the subject and an illegal alien to evade arrest. She apparently escorted him and his counsel, this illegal alien out of the courtroom, through a jury door,
Starting point is 00:41:56 because the federal officers told her that an ICE task force was, they had a warrant. They were coming there, and they had an administrative warrant for the guy's arrest. they arrested her at the courthouse That's that's sweetness There's a there's cash Patel's tweet there He said we're gonna have more soon Excellent work FBI Milwaukee They chased they I mean
Starting point is 00:42:19 She was trying to usher him out of the jury door And they chased him down On foot And Cash Patel added This judge by way of Trying to get You know help this guy evade This judge
Starting point is 00:42:36 now. I mean, she put people, she put the public at risk. This is wild. And they located and they, they chased him down right outside of the courthouse. And they said he, he tried to run from ICE agents, but they caught up with him. Now, before people start going, oh, but he's just an innocent, no, again, woman beater, March 12th, he's been charged with battering domestic abuse. stemming from an incident on March 12th. He could be in prison for six years if convicted. So why in the world is a judge helping a woman beat her evade who's here illegally, one crime, beating somebody, two crimes. Why is this judge helping him to evade? Is she in love with him? I mean, I'm just going to throw everything out there.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Did she think she was going to be a side piece? Like, I don't know what, I'm trying to understand what would make a judge. judge, this woman, so flagrantly just defy the law. These, this is what, this is what true equality is, is being accountable equally under the law. And we, if, if you have judges that aren't following the law and they're going to be allowed to get away with it, I'm going to tell you something, and I cannot stress this enough.
Starting point is 00:43:59 The strength of a republic is down to laws being equally applied and people being equally held accountable underneath those laws when violated. When you start picking and choosing what people can follow laws and which ones don't have to and what laws you're going to follow and what laws you don't want to follow, you're going to inspire people like myself to not want to follow laws. And I am one of the people that you want to follow the laws. And there's probably bigger and badder ones out there that are the same. So don't play with fire.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Face up to six years in prison. So good. And I think it should all be public and I think she'd be ashamed. Is she going to be disbarred? I mean, clearly she has to be at this point. I don't know. The bars, each state's bar is so leftist, aren't they? They're so incredibly leftist.
Starting point is 00:44:49 So this was really significant. And she isn't the only one. There have been others where they've also have been holding them accountable, throwing the book at them. Because they're just like you had another judge. Lorraine found another judge. This judge, and I was looking him up on this morning too, New Mexico magistrate judge, Joel Cano and his wife, they had agents raided their New Mexico home. They faced charges of evidence tampering and harboring an illegal alien who is a member of Trenderauga. Now, they say allegedly, but dude, it is, he's such an actual member of Trenderauga. They say allegedly, but he's, you know, he's a member. The former magistrate judge and his wife, they took him into custody yesterday afternoon.
Starting point is 00:45:42 They faced numerous charges and they said that the Trenda Aragua member was apprehended at their residence. He was hired by Nancy Cano for home repairs and then they later offered him accommodation in their guest house. And they, uh, investigators have all this evidence showing that he's with Trenda Aragua. he's got all the Trenderauga tattoos he's all they do get the same tattoos there's also text messages voicemails all of this stuff
Starting point is 00:46:13 he illegally entered in December of 23 cross near Eagle Pass just went across the border it was a they apprehended him and released him in just I think he entered in the 15th and they released him on the 18th and it was because the border patrol facility
Starting point is 00:46:29 was completely overcrowded so they they were letting people go. So he was issued a notice to appear. And you know how those really, I think what was the percentage that we were told by Border Patrol? Something like 80, almost 90% never show up, noticed to appear. So he's facing federal charges because not only did he enter illegally, but he got a gun on the black market. So he was in illegal possession of a firearm that he got on the black market because he didn't buy it legally. There's no evidence of that. And, uh, he this judge has been harboring him so now i've got questions like if this judge is harboring him
Starting point is 00:47:09 what else is this judge done think about this for a minute these people are judges they just happen to get caught this one time what else have they been doing what else have they been hiding who else have they been uh aiding and abetting i mean this is just when they get caught this is the problem the the absolute lack of law and order now You've got these judges that are refusing to follow the law. And then you also have these insane judges that are trying to prevent the president from actually being able to implement his agenda. This is becoming a major issue, judge after judge. I had we recounted some of it in our headlines that if you're a subscriber, you get that sent out to you in the morning.
Starting point is 00:48:03 but we have this another day, another judge, I, I, this is, I don't know how it's not obstruction of justice. So it's another roadblock for the administration. Red State had a really good write-up of one of them at least. There's actually so many. Lorraine has a bunch of pieces up. In fact, one's getting ready to run right now over on Substack, where she gets into these activist judges. because none of these judges want to follow the rule of law, not a single one of them. And now you have another federal judge who blocked another key immigration policy from the administration. This district, U.S. District Judge William Oreck issued an injunction on the order to withhold federal funding from sanctuary jurisdictions. You have sanctuary cities and states who don't want to cooperate with authorities. they this isn't the first time and it's probably not going to be the last time either
Starting point is 00:49:03 it's unbelievable at this point that either they're being told like the judge who said no we're going to talk about this case coming up the judge who said no you don't have to you don't have to show ID to go vote in a federal election what but you what are all the things that you have to show ID for think about it this you have renting a car buying alcohol buying pseudofed there's a number of things that the store you have to show and this even though you have this is what it's what our law says this federal judge Colleen Collar Koteli struck down provisions related to requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote now going back
Starting point is 00:49:58 to let me pull this up for my notes bear with me because i have and by the way Lorraine got me the receipt on that 90% i was like it's almost 90% it is 90% not a PJ media had the 90% of people who give the notice to appear at the catch and release they never show up this I have a gallop poll uh going back to my online bookmarking system hold up I wasn't planning I'm pulling this up but it reminded me. This was back in October of last year. And this mimicked, it's virtually unchanged from what it was also in 2016. When I was based on exit polling data, and this is like this is two weeks before the election last year, 76% of adults.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Now, it's important to know these are Democrats and Republicans. So they are doing, it was a general, it's a Gallup poll. from October 24th, it's a general assessment of where all Americans stand on deportation and immigration, etc. 76% of U.S. adults, and these are registered voters. So that's even more than likely voters and more than just general voters. Registered voters. Democrats and Republicans favor, they wanted stronger election law policies. 84% wanted proof of citizenship when registering to vote for the first time. When is the last time
Starting point is 00:51:30 84% of Americans ever agreed on anything? 2016, I went back and I was looking at my notes from 2016. It was pretty much this. In fact, it was 83% back in 2016. That has never changed. And that actually shocked me. Despite all of the media's manipulations, that sentiment requiring proof of of citizenship before you can vote. That hasn't changed. But yet this judge, even though we have
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Starting point is 00:53:02 and now all of the news you would probably miss it's time for dana's quick five so this guy this is a bbc a man who bought his car to replace the one he had stolen somebody stole his car he discovered that he actually accidentally bought back his own stolen car the british man man woke up on February 28th to find his car. Black Conda Civic had disappeared from his driveway overnight. To a police and insurers began looking for a replacement, he found one that looked identical
Starting point is 00:53:32 70 miles away. But after he bought it, he noticed similar items in the vehicle and that's when he realized that he had bought his own stolen car. He also found his previous address in the car sat nav. He felt he was gutted when his car was stolen so he wanted to replace it with the same model.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And he did tell the authorities about it. He said, I can't believe, I mean, can you imagine? Can you imagine without, I think I would know if I bought my,
Starting point is 00:54:01 I don't know, maybe not. This goodbye loser, a protected bird flies free in Key Biscayne. So this guy, an illegal alien, decided to beat up a heron, a great white heron, which is a protected bird in Florida.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Edgar Venezuela was fishing. He threw a rock at the bird, broke its wing. And the Pelican Harbor Sea, bird station. They responded. They found the bird crouched in the grass, bleeding from the right wing. And they deported this guy. They took him to court and they deported
Starting point is 00:54:31 him. Yes! I love this. It's such a feel-good story. If they wanted to throw a rock at him, too, I would look the other way. I didn't see anything. What? What are you talking about? I didn't hear anything about a rock being thrown at this guy. We have a lot more on the way. I talked to long last segment. I will make it up to you. Stick with us. Home title lock. It's amazing how fast and how sophisticated and how quickly all of this, this fraud. can grow the speed at which it can grow. When was the last time that you checked on your
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Starting point is 00:56:37 there are complaints made for certain reasons that can't be verified that end people's career, either through EEO or the IG. We need to reform that process completely so commanders can be commanders. Let me explain it a little bit more. So the DOD has equal opportunity programs for service members and civilians to report discrimination and harassment. That's a good thing. But what's not good is when these programs are weaponized. Some individuals use these programs in bad faith to retaliate against superiors or peers. I hear it all the time. Say you receive a bad evaluation, well, file a military EO complaint. It's nonsense and we want to fix that. That's why today, I'm signing a memo entitled, as I said, restoring good order and discipline through
Starting point is 00:57:24 balanced accountability. You know he wants to call it some else. It directs a comprehensive review of equal opportunity programs to ensure prompt and impartial investigations, prompt and impartial, fair treatment to all parties involved, and timely, timely and appropriate resolution of allegation. The no more walking on eggshells. Although, you know that he just wanted to call it the STFU. Yeah, exactly. He just wanted to call it that. Right. Or just, tear me out. You know, you could just the yeah. Welcome back. Dana Lash
Starting point is 00:57:57 with you. Bottom of this. Bottom of this second hour. He, uh, people don't know what to think. He apparently was uh, he, people are mad because he, he said of overweight reserve troops, quote, completely
Starting point is 00:58:13 unacceptable. And that's when he said yesterday, they'll be fit not fat. I actually sauce. I'm not making this up. I don't pay attention to the commentators on MSNBC, but when I go to somebody's bio because they said something stupid and I look and it says as seen on MSNBC, I immediately
Starting point is 00:58:31 discount them further. But people were actually trying to say, well, you're body shaming people for, yes, I do want to body shame people if they're not fit for the military. If they're in the military and they're not taking care of their fitness and they're not able to, they don't have the stamina and they don't have the endurance because they're not staying healthy and fit, that's not called body shaming it's called you're not doing your job because staying healthy and fit is part of your job really simple that's why one of the reasons they don't like him
Starting point is 00:58:57 my favorite uh because there's been so many accusations of uh against uh sect of heggseth this week and my favorite one it's not all this other stuff my favorite one is what they said about is makeup room okay so i got a i let me pull my tweet up here because this, I was actually shocked when I saw them try to go at him over this. So there was a story that came out, and I don't remember the publication. Well, I'm pulling it up. I had retweeted it. But the essence of it was that they were accusing sect-deaf of spending like thousands of dollars for a makeup room at the DOD for, because they do hits from the
Starting point is 00:59:47 Department of Defense or the Pentagon, you know, things like that. And that's, you know, normal. That's not like the State Department has like a little area where they do it. You, I mean, every department has something like this because you do have to go out and you do have to, you know, talk about what you're doing and the policies and things like that with the American people. So that's not, that's not a dumb thing to do, right? Can't I mean, that's, you know, that's normal. You know how normal that is. I mean, when we talk to lawmakers here and they do video hits with us, you know, they have like even little portable light. So that's, so the, apparently what happened is this story, and I don't dislike Jennifer Jacobs, but I also think that this story is kind of nonsense.
Starting point is 01:00:30 They said, quote, Sechdef Sechdef, Secheth recently ordered modifications to the green room next to the Pentagon Press briefing room to add a makeup studio that can be used to prep for TV appearances, sources told CBS News. The price tag for the project was several thousand dollars. The space previously had minimal furnishings, a new director-style chair, and a large mirror with makeup lighting was installed. Hegseth has used the briefing room for Fox News hits. A spokesperson confirmed the green room changes and said for this upgrade, we were deliberately conservative and opted for less expensive on-hand material solutions. And then she had to walk back her story. She said that the green room makeup studio in the Pentagon was going to cost more than $40,000, but the ideas were.
Starting point is 01:01:16 were scaled back. And then she added, well, Sector F. Hegeseth is doing his own makeup ahead of TV appearances. He's not paying for a makeup artist, per a defense official. And then the DOD was like, okay, we're done with us. This is a photo of the area. There's no lighted makeup. What are you talking about? There's no lighted makeup room.
Starting point is 01:01:35 This is the area that Juan is showing you right now on the simulcast. No lighted mirror, DOD said it didn't cost thousands. Everything that was added to the green room, not a makeup studio, came from exactly. inventory. Look at this room. The first thing is what is with that mirror, the little skinny mirror that they have opposite the wall. It looks like like a hotel, like a cheap hotel office, like the business center of a cheap motel is what it looks like. This is Spartan, as it should be. But the thing that I find horrifying and that would keep me awake at night is the overhead fluorescent lighting. Oh my gosh. I have chills. The overhead fluorescent lighting. It is horrible.
Starting point is 01:02:26 That's all they have to do. They sit in there and they are lit only by fluorescent lighting. Fluorescent lighting is horrific because you think that you look decent under it. You do your makeup to the light. And then when you get on camera, you look like an oompa. It's horrible. that's that's their makeup studio they said no all of this is fake and they just went it over there next door and snapped a photo of it and they're like this is what we got seriously and then you got the framed you got potus uh VP and then you got heggseth up there and the photos all i mean it's guys it's a simple closet mirror that you can get for nine dollars at walmart that they hung horizontally and then there's a fluorescent mirror overhead that's literally it for those of you who are not watching
Starting point is 01:03:08 the simulcast there everyone out there listening to me right now your bathroom is more luxurious what we just showed you. And you know, that's right. Like, your bathroom has better lighting and is more luxurious than that little makeup area that we showed you at DoD. I'm not even exaggerating. And they were trying to make that a big deal. I just think it's funny.
Starting point is 01:03:27 And they're like, well, he's doing his own makeup. Do you know how men do makeup for TV? Now, let me give you some insight into this. When you go, and I have, I was a token contributor back, you know, in 2012 with CNN, before they went totally crazy. I've worked with Fox, I've worked with HBO, I've worked with ABC, I've worked with everybody, and NBC, and they all, they all do, everybody, every entity does make up differently because every entity has different sets and different lighting. So here's the rule. Like the rule at places like Fox or other, you know, elsewhere, you'll have different sound stages basically in one building, right, on different floors. And one set, whatever, the main talent or the biggest talent to use that set, whoever that person is, all the lights, the temperature of the lights, the direction of the lights, the heat, everything is tailored to the
Starting point is 01:04:25 biggest talent that uses that set the most. And that's how they structure it. So you might go in and if you're a dude or a girl and they, they don't want you to look shiny and greasy. They want you to be completely matte. You can't have any shine in your face. They will they will tailor your TV makeup for your appearance to that set, to the lighting, to everything. Even if it, even if the lighting isn't flattering to you, you will look nice in it because they will make your makeup match it. But then if you go on to another set, you're going to look like a nightmare. So it's very, so with the men, they would, I've watched, and I've watched, I sat in a makeup chair next to Andrew WK before and they, I watched them do make, and they will make the men
Starting point is 01:05:09 mat. They don't put eyeliner and all that on them. And what they do is they go after any shiny spots, any rudiness. They want you to look consistent and everybody to kind of look similar in terms of tone on camera. And most guys, like hexuss on Fox enough, he knows how to do. Probably all he does, literally, is just put powder on his face. I watched Herman Kane get spray bush before. They did a whole, the spray brush makeup. I watched them do that because his skin complexion was so inconsistent they would spray him.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I've watched other big-name dudes in TV. I've watched one of them yell at a makeup artist because they did not want to be spray makeuped and they just got the powder instead. I think he's kind of one of those. All he's going to do is powder is fit. Why did you have to make a giant story?
Starting point is 01:05:56 Well, there's going to spend, notice how the story changed. It was thousands of several thousand dollars for this, $40,000. It was all over the place. Well, what is it? You got literally a Walmart mirror that you can get probably cheaper than nine bucks. at Walmart. They hung it horizontally. You can't see yourself in it unless you squat down. It's
Starting point is 01:06:14 ridiculous. And then you got the fluorescent lighting overhead. That's not thousands of dollars. That's not even $20. Everything, that's not even, if they got a new little, little cheap chair. Oh, it's a chair that's a little higher so that someone can come around if you're tall and they can comb your hair or whatever. That's it. That's not fancy. Why was this a hit piece? Anything that they can get to go after him. They're going to do it. This is just hysterical that they try to make hay over the story. I mean, that room terrifies me. That is terrifying. I have a lighted makeup mirror. I'm not going to lie. I got the light bulbs and everything. I'm not going to lie. This, no, that's nothing. You don't have no underlighting in that. So, but that's what a guy
Starting point is 01:06:57 would do. This is a guy's version of a makeup room in a green room. That's it. That's about accurate, Kane, right? Like, that's what you would construct. If your, if your daughter was like, Can you make me a makeup room? That's what you'd do. I'd say it's a little over the top, but sure. So this, and they reuse stuff. Apparently they didn't even buy that mirror. They just found it there.
Starting point is 01:07:19 That's apparently someone from DOD. The only thing that they bought was the chair. It was just this old wooden director's chair. It folds in half. It's a folding chair. It's it. That's the only new thing that they got. The fact that they, and then this is what I, the fact that they absolutely, you had to have
Starting point is 01:07:35 DoD address this because of all of the hype that was surrounding this fake news, it's just assonite because they're mad at him. They're mad at him because he was like, stop being fat in the military. Stop being fat. They're mad because he said that. They're mad because he was like, no trainees. And he's, he wants to roll back ROE. That's coming. But they're going after him for the stupidest stuff. Really ultimately, like I said at the start of the show last hour, I think a lot of this comes down to division on Iran. Because the people that have left Heggseth's camp, they've been doing this leak investigation. They have been described as doves on Iran.
Starting point is 01:08:20 And he's not. And he's more aligned with Trump and Vance on this issue. And I think that's where a lot of the rub is coming. And these people that have access to grind, they're going to the press and trying to run their mouths to fabricate something. That's exactly what this is. it's exactly what it is so it's just it's it's frustrating because you know
Starting point is 01:08:40 like for for right now like I don't know if you saw this Eric Schmidt was talking about this Hegseth has been trying to fight medical care against medical care elective surgeries in that for
Starting point is 01:08:54 transgender troops and I hate that it's described as a culture war because it's stupid it's not a culture war it's like it's nonsense so POTUS had signed an executive order that barred transgender military service and then the Pentagon issued a memo in February affirming that people with the history of gender dysphoria are incompatible with U.S. military service and so now you have judges again and he I this is what this is
Starting point is 01:09:24 where we're at two federal judges had they didn't just block the policy as Schmidt noted they ordered the Pentagon to resume providing quote gender affirming medical care to transgender military service members that includes sex change surgeries and hormone therapy provided by the taxpayer no I I think that if you have to have that in the military you I think that you need to be you need to go that's it I there's no place for this in here this is insane that's this But they had two judges that said that it violates the Constitution. What do you mean? How does it violate the Constitution if taxpayers don't want to pay for elective surgeries because someone wants to cost play?
Starting point is 01:10:11 Well, how does that, that we are our constitutional rights are being abridged because the Constitution does, A, hell, you want to talk about having a standing military with taxation? Let's have that conversation if you want to get into the debate on constitutionality. But further, why are we paying for something that's not included in Article 1, Section 8, nor is it something that even. is defensible by arguing that you're allocating the power to the states. That's unconstitutional. I mean, for crying out loud, you can't have, can you even have flat feet and serve in the military? I remember, so when I was in high school, I talked to an army recruiter because I was, I was actually seriously considering of enlisting.
Starting point is 01:10:51 I wanted to go and be like a war correspondent and cover all of that. My grandfather found out. and was not happy about it. And he said that the only, basically, basically the way he put it was that he would only be okay with granddaughters enlisting if all the grandsons enlisted first. And I thought that was pretty interesting. He was not happy about it because he was very old school and he had a very particular way of looking at women in military.
Starting point is 01:11:27 He has right. He's the World War II, but he could do whatever. that all he wanted. This is insane, though. Because I remember when I talked to the recruiter, that was something that was brought up. And I had foot surgery, and they were really, like, focused on that. And they had asked about that. I had a friend that was actually considered ill-suited for service and was rejected because he had a peanut allergy. But this, we'll come back to it. We've got to move. Because we got Florida man on the way, and I don't want to rob you. As we move, our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends at Tax Network, USA.
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Starting point is 01:13:13 This is a Florida woman who was arrested because she posed as an ice agent to kidnap her ex-partner's wife. That's some real... Dang. Right? I'm telling you. That's like hardcore. tour. This story is this Panama City. She was caught and cuffed. She was pretending to be a federal
Starting point is 01:13:34 agent to briefly kidnap her ex-boyfriend's wife. Fifty-year-old LaTranse battle went into the woman's workplace at a hotel chain earlier wearing a black shirt with the word ice printed on the front. The victim, who is in the process of becoming a legal U.S. resident, so she's following the law, willingly went with LaTran. She thought was a member of ICE. She noticed something was amiss after she was taken to an apartment complex and she called the police. Battle is charged with kidnapping robbery by sudden snatching. I didn't even know that was a thing. Impersonating a law enforcement officer and felony violation probation.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Oh, my gosh. A Florida man caught with a bulky wallet full of cocaine at Magic Kingdom was arrested. Was it bulky because of the cocaine? I mean, you know, yeah. He was banned from Walt Disney World because he snuck a giant wallet full of cocaine into the park. Dustin Lee Wallace, 44, was arrested. missed in March 29th, and he got his court appearances just happened. That's why, according to Orange Circuit Court Records. He had gone in. The wallet was bulky. He was nervous
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Starting point is 01:15:58 that people on the left are going crazy over. They put it in the online store, and I think it's funny. I think it's a troll. It's a giant troll, and the left is losing their minds. Oh, my gosh. I mean, they just, like, Photoshop the Trump, 2028 on a basic red hat. So it's like, in the left, they don't even, they just like, they're already made. I'm pretty sure they're made.
Starting point is 01:16:18 You guys. Good heavens. $50 each. The feature looks bright. Rewrite the rules. I mean, it's a joke. they're trolling. And it's, I, I, have you seen the slew of articles? I dared, I don't even want to look and see how it's, what's trending lately. It was all trending yesterday. It was
Starting point is 01:16:40 insane. Oh my gosh. He's, you know, he's a tyrant and unprecedented and all the, la, la. But, and he, when they go, are you joking? He's like, yeah, I'm not joking when the press asks him. He's like, you know, it's far too early to think about it. He's totally trolling everybody. I think just a way to wind them up. It's funny. I hope that he goes after some of these rhinos in some of these red states, though. I wanted to get to our red state rhino hunting and give you an update. We've been doing this. We're going to be doing it every day up until midterms, maybe even after as well. So we look at all red states and we look at all of the rhinos in each red state, but particularly we focus on Texas and Florida because they're the biggest red states now. Florida
Starting point is 01:17:27 was a purple state. And only in the past like six years, four years, really, did it become a red state. And that was a herculean effort. And there are rhinos that are attempting to undermine it. So we've got it. We got our red state rhino kick it on. All right. So the latest with red state rhino hunting. As you know, I got some headlines on Texas and Florida. But in Florida, particularly, they have had this fight. And we've talked about this before over, Florida. Have you guys heard of Hope Florida? That is the big charitable organization that is ran by the Florida First Lady Casey DeSantis. And I think, I can't believe it hasn't been copied in every other state thus far. It's a genius idea. So what they do is they, the government
Starting point is 01:18:14 only acts as a facilitator because there are a lot of people that are either on welfare or receiving help for drug addictions or homeless. And, you know, people just kind of leave it up for the government to manage. But it's those, but the government does a horrible job. The people who do the best job are the charitable organizations, uh, the volunteers, the networks that go in, uh, independent of government and they find people and they help them. They help rehabilitate them. They get them back on their feet. They become working productive members of society, able to take care of themselves and build a future for themselves. And that's the whole goal, right? And so what Hope Florida does is it facilitates that relationship by matching,
Starting point is 01:18:53 need with charitable organization. They have saved the Florida taxpayer. How many, like what, $100 million, something crazy, an insane amount of money, an insane amount of money that they save taxpayers. And it also, they actually help. I mean, when you look at studies that are done on people who are in need and go for government services as opposed to those who are aided by charities, the ones that are working with the charities actually have the higher success rate. And this has been started for like
Starting point is 01:19:26 10, 20 years now. And the reason being is because those charitable organizations have the ability to not just do a one and done, but they partner with these people and they make sure that they get off and are successful, that they get off to a great start and that they're successful. Whereas the government's like, oh, here's some cash or here's like a one and done thing. And so this has been a really successful program. They've had press events where people who have worked within the program and people who have been helped by it have spoken to the merits of it. And as a result of this, there are some weak Republicans in the state of Florida that are angry because when you have charitable organizations doing the job of government, what does that mean? It means you have less
Starting point is 01:20:09 government. You're reducing the size and scope of government. And you're actually empowering the individual while also allowing people who are working to be good stewards of their fellow man, allowing them to do that. And it's, I mean, that also means less special interest money and less fewer kickbacks for some of these weak lawmakers. So there have been attempts to go at this charitable organization by all of these weak lawmakers like Alex Andradey or Andrade, however you say his name. That's the guy. He got fired from the city of Milton. He was the city attorney and he's a state rep. they fired him as a city attorney. There was a post going around, he didn't deny it from what I read, a post going around
Starting point is 01:20:51 where he apparently, he's got a hot temper. I mean, he once, like, threatened to fight my husband. And I was just like, I can't believe you're a sitting lawmaker. And you talk like this, are you drunk? And there was a photo that went around, and everybody was talking about how he got into a bar fight and lost badly. And this photo of him with a big old busted black eye and his little face mask that tells you everything was floating around.
Starting point is 01:21:12 So, I don't know. I got questions. but he has been going on like all of these he goes on these grifter shows all of these people who have who are you know like rhino adjacent or just not even republicans or conservatives and they've been attacking hope florida and they've been attacking this because they're trying they're mad because desantis vetoed all of these budget increases i that's a whole other story i have they're livid because he he's he's uh like for instance florida sun sentinel uh this was just yesterday quote DeSantis questions Broward's massive budget increases.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Quote, what are they doing without money? They demand, you got to see some of the stuff that they're asking for money to be spent on. And he's going, and DeSantis is like, wait a minute, hold up, what are you doing? Before he got into office, and I have friends that are in Tallahassee that have been there, that I have a couple friends at work as lobbyists, and they have said that it is kind of like the norm. you are a lawmaker, you get special interest cash, and then you go and you advocate for that special interest. And we've seen that repeatedly in elections in Florida before. And these lawmakers that get these kickbacks, they're realizing that, wow, some of the entities that we could
Starting point is 01:22:29 benefit from are going to be imperiled. Our cash flow is going to be imperiled. If we're like giving all of this to like Christian organizations, or if we're allowing Christian organizations that they're not paying. These are charitable organizations that are just partnering with the government to come in and reduce the size and scope of government. And so they're angry because the gravy train is slowing down. They wanted to have budget increases for their special interests and all of this and the governor nixed it. But my friends were saying that prior to that, that's how business was done in Florida, like Rick Scott allowed it all the time. Charlie Chris, I mean, they all, Rick Scott, like, he didn't even care and you're reversing decades of that and it's hard you know it's um it's like
Starting point is 01:23:12 kind of what heggseth is facing in dod like you're going against this in these entrenched bureaucrats you're going against special interests in addition to people who are within you know who are in your circle that are supposed to be helping you but they're working against you and some of the people working against desantis quite frankly are just jealous they're jealous because he's more conservative and he's more successful and apparently there's like a scarcity of opportunity in their heads, and they think that there's only room for X amount, and no matter how conservative or good for the people you are, these people would rather rule over ashes than do something better for the taxpayer if it means they don't get credit for it. And I'm not exaggerating.
Starting point is 01:23:46 That's exactly how they are. And so, like Andradey went on Matt Gates's a show. I'm sorry, but Matt Gates is a clown. He got his seat because he's a NEPO baby because his dad's a state senator. He's got all these accusations. He's Botox within six inch of his life, within an inch of his life he is he can't even move the top of his flipping head and he has this guy on to sit here and talk about an attack of florida charity and go after you know successful lawmakers you know i know i understand that matt gates is mad that kevin mccarthy didn't shield his ass from all of the impropriety accusations and that he wanted to weaponize a speaker and imperil uh the voter's agenda by dragging us all into a hell pit of infighting while we couldn't get anything passed you know that's
Starting point is 01:24:31 unfortunate, maybe don't do anything that projects even an ounce of impropriety and you won't have that problem. But then he's mad at this because I guess he thought he was just supposed to get whatever seat he asked for. He wanted to be, uh, uh, he wanted to serve as a, in DOJ. He decided, he left his seat, dropped out, didn't do that, uh, made a mess. And now, now thankfully, the special election secured that seat that he left. But he had on this Andrade guy. And they were just like, I was like, this is content? Like you're, you're literally, it's like watching mean girls read their burn book. Like, what is happening with you?
Starting point is 01:25:07 So I didn't dislike him before, but I dislike a lot of his actions. And it's making me dislike him. I'll be honest, because nobody else has the balls to be honest. So I guess me with the biggest cigar in the room, it'll have to be me. So that being said, I don't have to worry about favors or I got to where I got on my own. I didn't have a daddy hand everything to me, and I didn't have all my friends hand everything to me too. so now you guys know the um but he went on his he went on his show and or whatever the hell he does i don't even know what he's on he's on the internet and they were just like one in their mouths about
Starting point is 01:25:41 this charity now here's here's the other part of this this is where the fun stuff comes in so there was uh they've they've had independent you know they've had uh media entities investigate this so the florida house ended their their hope florida investigation because they decided they were going to investigate this because and drady was saying oh somebody stole money and they funneled it to Hope Florida. $10 million. Well, that was all baseless. They did this investigation and it was absolutely baseless.
Starting point is 01:26:09 And then they found out, and this is from a reporter. So apparently, check this out. This is from Forrest Saunders. In a letter to the Speaker of the Florida House, the executive director of Save Our Society from drugs, Amy Ronshausen, said that she was coerced
Starting point is 01:26:24 via a lobbyist named R.J. Myers into a call with Alex Andradey under threat. that an appropriations request for drug-free America Foundation, which she represents, would be jeopardized and that she could be subpoenaed. She participated in a discussion under, quote, extreme duress, believing it would be confidential. The info was later leaked to the media. She refutes Andradey's claim that the Attorney General James Uthmeyer approved the use of Secretary of State funds for a political campaign. Because they were, Andradey is going after Uthmire because he wants to be the next AG.
Starting point is 01:26:59 And he thinks this is the only way to do it. So he's asserting that she said that these statements are all false. So she says she's seeking legal action to consult on next steps. So wait, lawfare and coercion to make people say things that you want them to say so you can fabricate a witch hunt to go after somebody because you're mad that you weren't appointed for their job. Are you kidding me? This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:27:24 I'm sorry, but some of these people in Florida are the shadiest people I have ever heard of in my life. I mean, I feel like they're trying to act like they're big, bad gangsters, but they're not. I mean, this is like Bush League stuff. What in the world? And this charity has done so much good for people. So imagine, and of course, this story drops after this dude was going on all of these entities and running his mouth about everything. I'm just tired of being nice to people who don't deserve it.
Starting point is 01:27:56 I'm tired of being nice to people and glossing over this stuff when I know they've got so many skeletons. in their closet. And it's like one of the worst kept secrets in D.C. in Florida. I, you know, I'm like, seriously, what? But I feel like they're emboldened because they think they've been protected and they have been by special interest and by so many things for so long. They've been protected. Well, now all of this stuff is coming to light. This is what Florida voters have had to put up with. It's just, it's maddening. We'll talk about Texas. I got some Texas headlines here coming up that we'll talk about. But that's just, that's unfortunate. And if I sound mean, it's because it's a long time coming. Can I just say it? I don't like going after people like
Starting point is 01:28:35 individually and personally, especially if they're even remotely kind of on my side. I like to go at the left and that's what I spend most of my time doing. But when you start adopting attributes of the left and you're like going after the biggest successes that we've had on the Republican side, you cease to be considered on my team. And now I feel like you're working, you're coming at this from the left, so you are the left. And I feel like that we all have an obligation to stand against that and protect the successes that we have. I'm sorry, but we're not so rich in successes right now with Republicans that we can just like, you know, start doing this kind of stuff. So, and, and when you, whenever you have a chance to shrink the size and scope of government, shouldn't you do that?
Starting point is 01:29:20 Shouldn't that be celebrated? And why should that be thrown out of the window? Because somebody who's unsuccessful in their own personal life or their own political career is mad that they didn't get picked for a seat or they didn't get special consideration and they decide to carry out a petty lawfare witch hunt like what we saw with Trump in New York. They decide to do something like that similar to that in Florida as revenge. That's psychotic. Sometimes I think maybe we need like mental health checks on some of these lawmakers before they are fit to run again. We have more on the way as we roll. And if anybody has anything to say to me about it, you can direct everything to my attorney
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Starting point is 01:34:32 Dana Lash here with you. We're on coast to coast, terrestrially, hundreds of markets. You can listen. Of course, you can also watch this stream as well, Channel 347 Direc TV, X, Facebook, YouTube, all that good stuff. So last night, I was like getting stuff done. And I don't, I like white noise. I can't stand total silence. I have to have something happening.
Starting point is 01:34:53 And I can't just have the TV on because it annoys me. So I just like, I literally just put it on John Wick. And I stopped. I was like running through my house doing like doing tasks. And it was the scene where him and common were in the mall. And they each had, you know, suppressors. And it was just like that. That's what it sounded like.
Starting point is 01:35:13 And I think that that's what particularly gun control activists think that that's what it sounds like and it totally does not sound like that and if you don't agree with me then you can go to a range without ear pro and you can try it for yourself and see if your ears are ringing after i mean it literally lowers it by i can't remember how many decibels to where it's like the dull roar of a giant concert you know monitor it's like pretty much similar to that so i've never understood why it was why it's a felony to own one and i guess it stems from like what, during, you know, back in the days of your, when game wardens didn't want
Starting point is 01:35:51 people going and, you know, harvesting animals with, I don't know, there's like all kinds of excuses. So let's bring on somebody about this because here's why. Pam Bondi, it's reported, A.G. Pambondi is considering perhaps doing something about this. I want to know what that means.
Starting point is 01:36:06 And the people to talk to are the folks over at the American Suppressor Association, joining us now, Knox Williams, who is the president and executive director of this awesome organization. He joins us now video. Knox, it's good to have you. Are you, so tell me what the AG is considering here. Because to me, still, it's insane that it's a felony to own something that is considered
Starting point is 01:36:28 if you are in Europe and you're hunting and you're basically like a hillbilly if you don't have one, because it's considered bad manners to hunt without one of these. Talk to me about this. What is being proposed? Well, Dana, thanks so much for having me on. I'm really excited to be able to chat with you. And I think you're absolutely hitting it on the head with this. It's interesting where suppressors are one of the things that's more heavily regulated in the United States than in many European countries.
Starting point is 01:36:54 For the firearms components and accessories, like it's almost always the inverse. So it's something that really doesn't make a lot of logical sense. You know, these things have been regulated under the National Firearms Act since 1934. So think Prohibition era when FDR and Attorney General Homer Cummings wanted to ban guns. They understood that they didn't have the constitutional authority to do so. So they took things like machine guns. And the original draft actually had handguns and suppressors for handguns were supposed to be the only provision related to suppressors included in that. The NRA at the time lobbied to get handguns taken out of it.
Starting point is 01:37:29 But the inclusion of handgun suppressors turned into a blanket inclusion of suppressors across the board. You know, really for no reason that we can discern, it's the only provision of the National Firearms Act that didn't have actual meaningful congressional debate. And it really kind of doesn't make any sense. It's all based around the misconception that a silencer can actually silence a noise of a gunshot when in reality, the truth couldn't be furthered from that. And tell people, too, because I always see this debate online. I mean, the correct term is suppressor. I think silencer was like the oldie, the olden days, not totally accurate term because it doesn't silence anything. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:38:09 So the law considers it a silencer, muffler, anything that can diminish the report of a firearm. And it's interesting that they call him silencer and muffler by name in the statute because the gentleman that invented them, Hiram Percy Maxim, he got his first patent in 1909. He also invented some of the first automobile mufflers. So it's the same exact science of play. You're taking a hot gas or giving it a chamber to cool and more slowly expand and hit the air, which reduces the overall noise signature. This was a guy that just hated loud noises.
Starting point is 01:38:39 And he thought, hey, I don't want them on an internal combustion engine. I also don't want them on a firearm. it's interesting how differently we treat them between the two when really at the end of the day, it's the same exact thing. Yeah. And for those just joining, we're talking to Knox Williams, who's the president and executive director of the American Suppressor Association, because A.G. Pampondi is considering, reconsidering, I should say, the DOJ's position on suppressors. They have this task force that's been established to push this. Are you confident, let me gauge your optimism. because, you know, I think, I think A.G. Bondi's been, and I'm not asking you to weigh on her job performance. I think she's been doing a pretty good job. I had some concerns about her, you know, two-way authenticity when she was in Florida. But, you know, if you're doing the will of the voters and if voters are, you know, wildly against gun control as they are in every measurable, every measure that's ever been taken, you know, I'm willing to give it a chance and see what happens. But I just don't know if this is something that's being like thrown out as a way to say, no, we're, we're, we're, we're. you know, we're still 2A or we're here on, or if it's like they're really going to take action on this, because I've heard this from lawmakers before, and it just seems like it's something that's so simple and easy to do because of the actual, because of how it works, and it's just so incongruent
Starting point is 01:39:58 with how it's presented, particularly by the ATF, and I kind of wanted to get your thoughts on that. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. We're very optimistic and think that thus far, Attorney General Bondi has done a fantastic job. You know, where there's a couple different silos, where we're waiting to get action and final word from Bondi and the administration. First off is the response to the first pro-second amendment executive order that we're aware of in history. That was a very big deal when Trump came out and put out that executive order, basically asking the DOJ to examine all firearms policy as it pertains to the executive branch and recommend changes, right? We're talking about four years under the Biden administration of complete weaponization of the entire federal government
Starting point is 01:40:39 and they're targeting of the second amendment community, which was second to none. So, you know, there's a lot to clean up. And yes, they have, they've missed the deadline. They were granted an extension and we're still waiting on that. But to me, that signals really that they're trying to get the job done right, that they're focusing primarily on doing it properly rather than expediently. And I really, for one, appreciate that. Another area that we're waiting for word on is in a case out in the Fifth Circuit called US v. Peterson, which is something that an acting U.S. attorney out there put out basically the government's position about a month, month and a half ago that said, hey, suppressors shouldn't be covered by the second amendment.
Starting point is 01:41:19 And when the attorney general caught wind of that, I mean, you know, they issued a decree saying basically, hey, we're going to come back and we need more time to be able to reexamine our position on suppressors. They have just this week on Wednesday asked for another 30-day extension on that. And again, to me, that signals, hey, we want to make sure that we get this right. You know, we want to make sure that we have the time to do our new diligence and make sure that it's properly done, not just done quickly. And, you know, when you're talking about litigation and whatnot where, you know, things have a very lasting effect in terms of establishing precedent, I really appreciate that and really love the job that they're doing and can't wait to see what they do come out with. Those are very, that's a very good point on that. And Knox, too, I'm still, it still floors me that it's to have a suppressor and it's not registered.
Starting point is 01:42:06 don't get your stamp. It's a felony, even though it doesn't really, and I don't, because I think they're valuable things. I think it's great for hearing protection, especially if you're like, you know, you got a bird dog. I think it's great. But it doesn't reduce the sound to the point where you can't hear the gunfire. And I've heard this from so many elected officials, like in states like Illinois, in New York, you know, where I'm going with us in California where they're like, we just can't have
Starting point is 01:42:33 these gangbangers out there shooting people and nobody hears it. You know, that's why we got that. That's not how that works, though. Talk a little bit about the science of it. Because as from what everything that I've read and I've shot with suppressors before, they're loud. They're, they're really loud. I mean, I think people are shocked if they've never, you know, gone to a range. They've never shot with the suppressor before. Yeah, you still need ear pro. I think. Absolutely. So I mean, look at the experts, right? You don't have to take my word for it. Look at what the National Hearing Conservation Association, the Academy of Doctors of Bodyology have put out where they say, Suppressers are an effective way to help mitigate preventable hearing damage, tentatist, noise and deuce hearing loss, any of those sorts of things. But even when shooting suppressed, it is still advised that you shoot with traditional hearing protection in a layered approach in much the same way that, you know, if you get in a car that has airbags, you're still going to buckle your seatbelt. Right.
Starting point is 01:43:23 It's a layered approach that makes it a safer experience. Generally speaking, a suppressor on a firearm is going to reduce it by 20 to 35 decibels. That's about the same reduction that you're going to get out of traditional hearing protection, like earplugs or earmuffs, and there are some benefits to suppressors that don't extend to earplugs and earmuffs, right? They should all be used in conjunction with one another. No one should be singled out as anything. And the idea that, you know, you can put anything onto a firearm and make it actually
Starting point is 01:43:51 silent or inaudible or so quiet that someone standing 10 feet away from you's not going to be able to hear it like in that John Wick movie is about as real as the dinosaurs that you see in Jurassic Park. It's all fake. It's all used for plot points. And if you've never seen and heard suppressed gunshot for yourself, it's easy to buy into that. But at the end of the day, at this point, people that still foster those ideas are either willfully ignorant or intentionally misleading. Yeah, it's like if you, if you shoot through a pillow, it doesn't make it quiet either.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Yeah. Exactly. Last question for you. What, so with all of this in front of us, I still, I don't understand the objections that anyone at the ATF or, you know, anyone who's opposed to this. I, I just don't understand the. merit of their objective. I don't think they, I think they are without merit. I don't understand their reasoning. Give me a little insight as to what you, what arguments that you have to push against in your role with the American Suppressor Association in advocating for this. Because I, I just don't understand what their, what their objection is to making this, you know, accessible to everybody. Yeah, I mean, it really depends on who you're talking to, right? You've got your anti-gun zealots. There's just no appealing to reason with them, right? It's almost like
Starting point is 01:45:02 arguing of religion, you're just not going to get anywhere with it. Thankfully, one thing that I will say is, is the AG and the administration have really done a good job of rooting out a lot of those institutionally anti-gun folks at ATF. And putting in good people like Robert Leider, who's chief counsel over there right now, that was a fantastic move and absolutely critical. I think the next step is going to be getting the right person in as a Senate confirmed director. They need good leadership.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Regardless of the trajectory that they're going to take ATF, you've got to have somebody at the top, who understands the issues and can operate in that environment. And I think that's the next big step, at least as far as we see it, to make sure that the weaponization is done and then we can do everything that we can over the next three and a half, four years to make sure that it is incredibly hard for any future administration to pick that weaponization back up. I want this to be so successful. I would love to see this happen because it is, I mean, because after a while, even when
Starting point is 01:45:57 you have your cans on and just a little bit extra help. You know, if you're out hunting, especially if you hunt a lot. I mean, it really does go a long way in helping to preserve hearing. And there's just no legitimate reason to oppose it. I'm really, I'm really happy that you guys are really finding some success with this. And I've been talking to the, I assume you all been talking to DOJ and talking to the AG and all that. I'm glad that you guys are there doing that. Please keep us updated.
Starting point is 01:46:24 And we'd like to have you back to kind of follow this because this would be a huge victory. And as you said, that EO that came in from POTUS, I've never seen. And I've never seen a president do a two AEO like that before. So that was, it surprised me and I was incredibly happy about it. So I assume you were as well. So this is all great. We're moving in the right direction. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:46:45 All right, there you go. Knox Williams. It's a pleasure to have you. Thank you so much. We'll have you back. Executive Director, American Suppressor Association. You can find him on X at AM Suppressor. Thank you, my friend.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Appreciate all the work you do. God bless. Thank you so much. Of course. We have more to come, folks, as we wrap up this third hour. And then I got one more headline for you when we've been talking about Red State Rhinos. We've got to hit Texas. We've got to hit a Texas.
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Starting point is 01:48:39 like advancing their bills. And I'm not exaggerating. It's amazing to see this. And I just all of this. I mean, the speaker capitulating to Democrats, I mean, one thing after the other, there needs to be like, it should be a reality show. I honestly think you could make a reality show. I honestly think you could make a reality show out of some of these state lawmaker offices, and I don't know why they don't. I mean, this is, we could be here all the rest of the day, because now they're putting up a fight, and apparently the conservatives in Austin are trying to unify and push together against the Democrats' cosplay as Republicans in the Texas House. So we're going to keep an eye on that, all of that, and to have more for you next week. And as you know, we're going to be
Starting point is 01:49:30 We're looking at some of the red state rhino stuff in all of the red states, focusing a little bit more attention on the two biggest. But we're going to be doing this all throughout, you know, leading up to midterms. And there's a lot there. I'll try not to get it too into the weeds, but it's something you really need to know about. And even if it's in a state that you don't live in, you really need to be aware of it because everyone said, oh, this stuff isn't going to happen in Texas and look what happened. Or this stuff won't happen in Florida and look what happened. Colorado, for 63 years, they said, oh, that would never happen here. two election cycles that flipped, you absolutely need to pay attention to all of it. It's
Starting point is 01:50:03 incredibly important. In the meantime, we'll also follow up over at Substack. Lorraine has a great piece over there right now, but the latest wayward judge who's trying to torpedo potuses and the voters agenda. You can go check that out over a chapter and verse now. In the meantime, today in stupidity. Who, believe it or not, Jim Acosta made it again. Over the years, Jim Acosta has been in today and stupidity. Several times. And, well, it's because he opens his mouth and says stuff like this. It seems to me Trump has figured out how he's figured out how to crack the code of how to hurt the press, how to hit the media where it hurts. And in part because these companies should never have been allowed to take over these news organizations to begin with and have the kind of slay and
Starting point is 01:50:55 Monday morning quarterbacking that they do on their own mistakes that they themselves voluntarily did. Trump isn't the one that hurt the media. The media is what hurt the media. You can't be honest. You have agenda-driven narratives that you drive. After a while, people just lose trust. That's what happened. So stop blaming Trump.
Starting point is 01:51:19 You're stupid. But Trump did it. So ridiculous. Facebook, YouTube, go find us there, like and subscribe. substack chapter and verse i hope you have guys have a great weekend i will be back behind the mic with you on monday god bless

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