The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Absurd Truth: Airline Nightmare

Episode Date: September 1, 2025

NOTE: This is a best-of Absurd Truth podcast A Karen at Fort Lauderdale Hollywood International Airport goes on a tirade after passengers criticize her for getting up and moving forward to get off the plane before the passengers in front of her. Meanwhile, Chip and Joanna Gaines have responded to criticism from some evangelical groups after their new Magnolia Network series, Back to the Frontier, featured a same-sex couple with two sons.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Fast Growing Treeshttps://Fast-Growing-Trees.comGet up to 50% off select plants and an extra 15% off your first purchase with code DANA at Fast Growing Trees. Offer valid for a limited time, terms apply.Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana’s personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service using code DANA.HumanNhttps://HumanN.comSupport your cholesterol health with SuperBerine and the #1 bestselling SuperBeets Heart Chews—both on sale for $5 off at Sam’s Club. Boost your metabolic health and save!Keltechttps://KelTecWeapons.comSee the third generation of the iconic SUB2000 and the NEW PS57 - Keltec Innovation & Performance at its best.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Start today and take your health back with All Family Pharmacy. Use code DANA10 for savings and enjoy your health, your choice, no more waiting, no more “no’s.”

Dana Lashes of Sur Truth podcast, sponsored by Keltec. It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida man. Oh, boy. So a couple of different stories here. First up, oh, by the way, the Chucky Cheese dude that we told you about. Well, the guy addresses Chucky Cheese. You know how they arrested the Chucky Cheese Mouse?

anyway, so he was arrested for credit card fraud. Apparently a lot of it. So I found another story. Actually, it was just filed. I mean, literally, it was filed like 10 minutes ago. He got arrested for credit card fraud. So remember, we were like, oh, he's got these felonies that he was arrested for, and they never actually said what they were, which made me think he's got bodies in basements.

No, it's credit card fraud. So I needed to update you with that. Florida man drove to a rival insurance agency and threw Molotov, cocktails at it. Yeah. He drove his Toyota over to the Univista Agency in Lake Wales, Florida. Attacked it and threw Molotov cocktails

because the rival agency moved into close to the competition. Are you serious? That's how you... What year do you think this is, my dude? He, uh, yeah, he threw a ton of of Molotov cocktails in it. They tracked him down because guess what? He was caught on surveillance

footage. do do do and and he did it and then went to work and they went right to his work and arrested him after they they checked his car's registration it went to a low it belonged to a local lab testing company and he worked

there and yeah so they found him at work great job guy you're so smart you're so smart let's see oh I don't want to read okay I don't like iguanas I mean they're pest but also they have feelings too.

Tastes like chicken. Florida man was arrested after he, he didn't just kill an iguana. He tortured it to death. He allowed his dog to chase it, and then he brutally killed it. So he's facing a half dozen charges on this. Sorry, that's the auto thing.

He's, oh my gosh, shut up. He's facing a half dozen charges because he tortured it. It's a $5,000 bond. So he let his dog chase it, and then he picked it up by its tail, and then started slamming it against a rock, and then a sidewalk and all kinds of stuff

and everybody, he did this in front of witnesses. So yeah, you can't do stuff like that. That's just, you're a psycho. Stop it. Just quit. A couple of other ones. Apparently, everybody left their baby in a bar or a baby in the car while they went to a bar.

A Florida couple was arrested. They left their baby alone in a running car while they went to go drink at a bar. Flaker County. Oh my gosh, you know how hot it was? How hot it is outside? How humid it is outside there? They were arrested, felony child neglect without great bodily harm. And they, apparently he went and checked out.

The dad went and checked once on the baby in the vehicle before going back inside and drinking. They just said it was an infant. They didn't say the age. The baby's okay. And then a teen mother was arrested because she left her baby inside a hot car so she could go watch a smurf. 18-year-old woman in Florida. The child was flushed and crying. It was 107 degrees in there.

They rescued the baby. The mom went to jail. Good night. I always think it's important to be able to protect oneself. And I tell you guns save lives. We have statistics out there every single day that highlight this. Defensive gun usage is actually over three times out of criminal usage. It's just counted differently city by city, state by state, due to existing local and municipal

standards. And as a result, you get different numbers. But by and large, it's always good to be able to protect oneself. One of the companies that makes a good product is Keltec. It's the PR-57. It is a 5-7, chambered in 5-7. It's lighter than the other 5-7s on the market, 40% lighter. And in fact, has a very unique top-loading design.

Chambered in 5-7, you use clips instead of actual magazines. That's the top-loading design that it incorporates. It gives it a 20-plus-1 capacity. MSRP 399, made in Florida in the United States of America, because guns do save lives. Learn more at Kel-Tecweapons.com. That's K-E-L-TEC-E-C.com. Tell them Dana sent you. Make sure you go sign up at Substack Chapter and Verse. Find us at Facebook, YouTube, like, and subscribe. The chat is not rumble. And Channel 347, the simulcast of the radio program. It's already tough when you're flying, right? You're on an aluminum tube and you're in the sky. And I just get real antsy when I'm in, feel like I'm being held captive with a bunch of people. I don't even know how I'm going to do a cruise later. The academic thing with MRC going up to Norway. I mean, it's not like I can.

can scale up the size of a fjord to get away or anything. But being on a plane, like, where else are you going to go? Like, open the door and fall to the ground. Like, what else you're going to go? Hide in the bathroom. Hide in the laboratory. So I get it. When it's time to get off the plane, people want to get off,

especially if you have connecting flights. That can be tricky. Or if you've got to use the loo. Because using the restroom on the plane is probably one of the nastiest things ever next to riding the subway in New York. It's horrible. They're always so bad. Like you got to use it first and then just give it up.

Then you just give it to God after that because that's, you know, only he can help after that point. So I get it. You want to get off the plane, right? But I think there's like ways to be polite about it. But also people don't want to be polite in today's society for whatever reason. It feels like there's less of it. I think there's less of it because people are tired of putting up with stuff. They're just tired.

People are just tired. There's too much. There's too much happening. So Audio 7 by 17. This is at Fort Lauderdale. Hollywood International Airport. This woman went on a tirade because she was getting criticized by passengers

for getting up and moving forward to get off the plane before the passengers in front of her were able to get off. Now, I don't know how all of this kicked off because, you know, it's always, we have all of these, it's like Bigfoot. We have phones and all these video recording things,

but, you know, nobody gets bigfoot. So I don't know exactly how bad it got to get to this point, But audio somebody 17, this is what happened. Like that much, you shut your mouth. I want to wait for the people in front me to get up. This doesn't we do it. Oh, my God, you're all whining for no reason.

Let the people go. I hold you. Get up the way you want to. You're just a cavern and that's just the way it is. Just deal with it, people. My God. Why don't you all shut up? It's not affecting any of you.

You. Look, you didn't see any of them. Carrie. That guy. You guys are so funny. You're the Karens about it because you're the ones. You're the one to make a noise. Nobody's positive.

It's not even in your purpose. I'm sorry. Do you have my permission to record me? Oh, now she's here. Yep. Because you've never said one. I can tell you have. Oh, yes, I can.

That guy wouldn't even do or nothing. He just sit back there and she gets me. Oh. You can be a dress, no, you're not going to insult someone because of an accent. Don't put your, we're not doing that. Don't put your finger out. Okay? This is a low IQ.

Yeah, it is. You ain't gonna change this. Love when they say ain't and they talk about low IQ. I use AIDS and I, I'm in a doctoral program. Oh my gosh, that's a big deal. I'm a lawyer. I don't say ain't. You can.

You can't. You can't. Oh, my God. Do you even know what the word racist means? Oh my gosh. Wait, you're white. Because that's racist. Maybe xenophobic.

talking about accidents. Maybe it's a vocabulary. Right when we get off this plane, I'll meet you out there with my bar. Everybody, everybody is insurable. I'm sorry, but everybody on this plane is insufferable. They're all horrible. Everyone is horrible. If I was the pilot, I would have dove it into the ocean. I'm like, mm-mm-mm-w-gone, doing mankind of favor.

Oh my gosh, where to even start? She was trying to get off the, she wanted to get off the plane before every year. I've seen that before. Most of the time people are nice. The only time that I ever said anything on a plane when people were trying to rush forward was actually my oldest son was with me. Can't remember where we were going,

but there was an elderly lady who was right across the aisle from us and she was like really elderly. And apparently, like, talked to her a little bit. She, her husband had passed earlier that year. She was going to see her sister whose children had placed her sister in a nursing facility. So I'm already, like, my heart is already hurting for this lady, right? And we

helped her put her suitcase up and helped her get, you know, situated because she had, she wasn't, she didn't have mobility issues, but she was like 80 something. She was very, it was just still an independent lady, sharp as attack, and she had every right to fly, but, you know, just have a little consideration, right? So when the plane landed and everyone's getting up and my son was actually making sure she got up and had her tote bag, there was a younger woman. and then people just started coming forward. And one woman literally pushed past her to get to the front and almost knocked this woman on the other two passengers in the seat. And then everyone else, it was like, Mur, they saw this one lady going up.

And I'm, you know, I'm like immediately trying to help this elderly lady because the flight attendants were in the front. They're opening the door. They're not right there in your section. And I'm like, this woman is going to get trampled. And all these people came up. So I got up and I was like, can you please wait? you know, I'm still trying to literally get her up from the aisle. And this was probably like in 2009, 2010.

And they kept pushing. So finally I lost my cool. And I did yell at people. I was like, can you guys just chill the hell out for five seconds? I'm like, we're all going to the same place. I'm like, can I let her get up first? Because she got knocked down by one of you. And I was so mad that they didn't even notice that this woman was literally knocked over

in the aisle. And I made sure she got out before us. So if they were going to like try to run her down again, at least, they would hit me and my child first. But, you know, getting off the plane. And she, she was just slow getting up. She wasn't like slow walking. It was just, you know, she's 80 something. And I was just like, and I think the people realized what happened. And they saw her kind of trying to get out of it. Because when you fall in between those aisles, you know how hard that is to get, if you're not 80s. It's like hard to get up anyway, because you're on your stuff. You can't move this you can't get up it's awkward and i think they realize oh my gosh we got to chill we knocked this little lady down um and then they were fine after that but i literally did have to yell

at people that's the only time i ever did otherwise i just don't care i'm not in a rush to get off the plane i always whenever we have connecting flights there's only been one time that it's been close because there was nothing else but i always give myself tons of time if i got a connecting flight somewhere a i avoid connecting flights but if i have to take one i always give myself tons of time And not everybody can prepare that, you know, plan that far in advance, but just try. But, I mean, what is it going to save you a couple of minutes to rush forward, if that? This doesn't make any sense. But the problem with this is that I don't know if she had a connecting flight.

I don't know. She could have been a heck of a lot nicer. And everybody else could have been. But she didn't say Kane at any point that she had a connecting flight that she had to get to or anything like that. She was just like, you know, whatever. I mean, why? Lady lie. If I had a connecting flight, I would say, yeah, all right, you guys, you got me. But, you know, I have a connecting flight.

So that's why I got up here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I've been on planes with, like, if you don't have a connecting flight, you know, can you let other people go forward? And it's like, I don't, you know, I don't have an issue. I'm not in a rush to get off the plane. And I, my husband likes to get off the plane like as soon as possible. But I'm like, oh, chill, we don't got to be in a rush.

It's all good. It's all good. Clearly, some people got places they got to be. just let it go. It doesn't really bug me. But what bugs me is like when I see older people like that lady, I don't know if I've ever been that mad in public in a long time, like ever. I was so mad for her. I just

could not believe that someone just like powered through and just, I mean literally knocked her in between the seats. Like she was butt up and her I mean almost like a downward dog position. They had knocked her in that seat and it was really awkward for her to get up and the other seatmate passengers, the other passengers in her row were trying to

help her. I'm trying to help her. But everybody on that plane was just not helping the situation, not helping the situation. Clearly she felt entitled. She was snotty. You know, the point where it went really downhills where the other lady was like, I'm an adroit program. Oh my gosh, nobody cares. Just stop.

Stop. Don't engage with stupid because stupid loves it. And stupid feeds off it. You do not have to, I always tell everybody. you do not have to attend every fight to which you are invited. You do not have to. Just let it. Some people just need to show their backsides.

Let them do it. But it just got, and I'm like, there's kids on this flight. I felt bad for the one dude who was just sitting there eating snacks. Did you see him? He was the only guy who would not bother in his soul on this flight. He's sitting there just eating his snacks. And she turns around and starts at him. I was like, that poor man, he's eating his snacks.

probably in them plane, whatever, the plane trail mix. Do they even offer it to the people with peanut allergies get upset? I don't know. The whole thing is just too much. That dude was my spirit animal. I'm the same way. If people are in a rush and they just let them go. If you're in the plane and you're not in a rush to get off the plane,

having three or four more people in front of you as you're herded off the plane through the jet bridge is not, you're not going to get a special award. You're not gaining anything. Yeah, they're not going to be at the end of the thing. Like, you were the first stuff. Here's a million dollars. You guys are losers because you didn't get off the plane first. No one's doing that. There's not those types of rewards.

No, I'm not 20th in line. I'm 15th. I'm a better person. Put that on my tombstone. First off the plane. Progress. But it just, yeah. And I don't like being in crowds where you're jostling like that.

I don't, oh, man, I can't stand it. So I will totally just chill. let them let them go by and then do what I got to do right and because I already have I pack light anyway I already have all my stuff I only ever do carry on so it's like one one and I'm out but there are a lot of nice people that they'll see you because if you don't go then it's like the current of people just and then you just sit there until the whole plane gets off but every now and then there are people nice enough that are like oh my gosh go ahead and go like you're sitting here ready to go I'm just not going to like fight with people to get off the plane

because I don't have that much patience in life, so I like to reserve it. You know what I mean? For like the times that it really would matter, right? Like picking up an elderly woman who gets knocked over in the aisle. That's, you know, things like that. But this, I see things like this and it makes me not want to fly. I already don't like it. But I don't know what I'm going to do on this cruise, guys.

I don't even know. I was looking at the boat, the boat ship. I don't know. I literally, all everything I know about getting on boats, is from lakes, fishing, canoes, and then having a power, little powerboat, like in the exhumas, and going, you know, driving around that. And I know how to, I know how to navigate. I know how to read nautical maps because there was no way I was taking my family out in the open ocean without ever being able to do that, because it's insane. But we're on a big boat and came. We're going to be

in the fjords, which is basically like there's no ground. It's just you look around and it's water and rocks. That's it. Shear cliffs that goats couldn't even get on. Like a goat couldn't even, like one of those weird ones couldn't even get up there. It's not a carnival cruise going on. No, no. It's, I think you'll be okay. I don't know. I think you'll be all right.

All I'm worried about like food poisoning and everybody having diarrhea and like, yeah. Oh, God. I mean, I guess those are valid concerns. Or like what if, oh my gosh, I don't know. What if the boat? What if there's a drunk captain? That happened.

You guys remember that story. What if there's a drunk captain and they hit something and the cap size in a fjord? and then a Lochness monster from Scotland eats us. I don't know. Before he capsize, you just drink with him so that he's not drinking as much. I don't know. I'm just, it's real. Did you know that fall is one of the best seasons for planting?

Many trees and plants thrive when planted now, but knowing where to start makes all the difference. That's why you should turn to fast-growing trees, the largest online nursery in the United States. They offer thousands of plants from fruit trees to privacy hedges, all tailored to your climate. So landscaping feels stress-free. Plus, they're alive and third.

Thrive guarantee means that your plants arrive ready to grow. No more loading up a dirty car or wandering around a nursery with limited options. And grown to last by American farmers, all on American soil. Whether you want privacy, shade, or natural beauty, fall as the time to plant. And with fast shipping, expert support, and top quality plants, fast-growing trees makes it happen. Get up to 50% off of select plants at fastgrowing trees.com. Use code Dana at checkout for an extra 15% off of your first purchase. Visit fastgrowingtrees.com and use code Dana for an extra 15% off. Offer valid for a limited time in terms apply. And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's quick five. I'm a karaoke zeppelin for the rest of the show. I'm telling you,

I'm such a, then I got to tell you about my soft serve thing that I got. It's just so weird here today. I have no idea what's happening. All right. So, uh, first stop. Oh, Poland has reintroduced border controls with Germany. Now remember, let's go back like a year, real quick. When you had different European Union nations that were freaking out over the absolute deluge of people coming in from North Africa, et cetera, and they were going into Germany and Germany was like,

we're not going to respect borders. We're just go ahead. You're part of the EU. We're just going to let everyone filter through. So Poland has reintroduced border controls with Germany in a crackdown. There are president said it's a poll's first agenda. And they are not messing around.

Now Rocky ran on the slogan of Poland first, polls first, and defeated the more liberal candidate. And now they're taking a very, very tough approach similar to what Italy's been doing on immigration. So very interesting. A man's in custody after he made a bomb threat on a plane that was leaving St. Petersburg and Clearwater International Airport. Yeah, you can't do that, right? Have you ever watched Meet the Parents? Because you can't even say the word, bomb, bomb, bomb. Can't even do it.

You can, but not like that. 27-year-old Taj Taylor told another passenger that his laptop was a bomb during the flight. Clearly they didn't watch Key & Peel either. Because that passenger immediately went and told one of the airline attendants. I mean, you would, right? You would be like, this guy's got a bomb. This is like really crazy. And they were getting ready to take off.

Guys, 27 years old, told the passenger's laptop was a bomb. And like I'm just saying, I really... We're going on drags. They're not talking about no Terry Bradshaw or no Terry Cloth. You know, I'm just saying, you know, you got to drag them sclounce. A man setting off fireworks. This is in Boston, killed himself. I mean, I was just telling the show.

Congratulations, everybody got here with all their fingers and toes intact. Seven-year-old Robert Spagnolo. Well, he was apparently killed by a firework Friday night. According to Channel 10 Boston, it was a fireworks incident, and it was a fireworks incident. and it was Plymouth County District Attorney's Office. They confirmed it, and they said that he was identified, and it was directly involving fireworks. They didn't say like what.

They didn't say if it was, you know, a rum and candle or what it was. But you just do, yeah, it was a big one. You've got to be careful out there. I do not want to talk about the eel one. Can we just not? Are you going to meet me? You can read it. Share this one.

This is yours. No, I'd triple dog dare you. Well, scientists have found, The doctors have found a live eel swimming in a man's abdominal cavity. It was in him. Swimming around in the abdominal cavity. You're welcome. Okay.

This is so gross. The world's largest time capsule. I love how that was just the story. Opened in Nebraska 50 years later. Do we know what's in it? Probably Kornosker stuff. I don't know. What's in it?

No, they just said it was the world's largest head. That rocks, artwork, a teal suit, Chevy Vega, all that good stuff. There is a big dust up right now with the Gaines. Chip and Joanna Gaines. I don't know if you've ever been to Waco, but Waco is basically Magnolia territory. Like right when you get into the town of Waco, everything is about Magnolia. here are the silos Silo there. Good to see you.

I mean it's Waco Magnolia. Really it's just Magnolia. They're probably going to rename it. Who knows? They I mean they own the town. Like they control everything in the town basically. It's a cuteie little town. But they've gotten

very, very famous. They had their HGTV show and they've gone on to leave HGTT TV and create their own media entity, which I think has been very successful. And there are a lot of people that are big fans of them. And I've been down, I've taken my mom down there before. And it's, it's, they've, you know, they're very faithful people. They're Christians. They've talked about their faith. And now they're kind of in some hot water. And it's not hot water the way you think

it would be, right? Because they've previously been in trouble because they've been Christians. Now they're accused of going woke because they feature a same-sex couple in one of their, in their new series. It's a series called Back to the Frontier on that new network they created, Magnolia Network series. It premiered on July 10th. And they, I guess, select the couples that are going to be the people that are going to be on the show and they I haven't seen it the show but they go to the frontier that sounds like camping that's too close to camping to me and you guys know how I feel about that sidebar if you're unfamiliar with it we invented the house as a people I don't like appropriating my ancestors way of living because we have all of these new innovations and you know

I mean I hate modernity but I love electricity and hot water so you know there we go so anyway they have a Texas couple that appear on the show with They're two sons and they're two men. And they're one of the three couples. They live like 1800s homesteaders. Sidebar again, sorry. There's no social media in the 1800s. So that probably, that's a big selling point for me.

Would you like to get away from influencers selling you the exact same stuff that you can find at home goods? Yes, you do. You want to get rid of, okay, you want to get away from all the white. Okay, let's go be homestudders in the 1800s. So they, they're getting a lot of huge. heat because they featured the same-sex couple in their show as one of these three couples, right? They're getting a lot of heat for it. And to the point where you have the American Family Association that has, Babylon B has said something about it, American Family Association. There are people

that are concerned because they expected the gains to continue to upholding biblical values and make that part of what their work is. And the AFA said, quote, quote, it's sad and disappointing because they've been very influential in the evangelical community. They've stood firm on the sanctity of marriage, et cetera, said they're not sure why they've reversed course. And the comments have been very interesting. They've gotten a lot. They've gotten a lot of heat in the past. I don't know for not having gay couples on their shows. Like when they were doing their house flipping, the show where they flip the houses, apparently they had never had like a gay couple on their show and they were getting heat for that. I don't know if this is to

maybe satiate some of those criticisms, but I do think that it poses a problem for them. And here's why. I think it poses a problem for them because, first off, I don't, I think that they need to handle it better on social media. Social media is a poor place to mitigate things, number one, especially of this nature, because everybody's immediately defensive, because social media, by entering it, is a defensive place. That's why everybody's miserable. Everybody only wants to show you the pretty curated side of things, because everybody's so judgmental. Social media is where people go, especially Instagram, and they want to either jealously lurk or they want to flex. It's like one of the two. So it's why I hate social media. It's why I'm not as active on Instagram as I used to be, because I just can't. It's just, that's a can't. I don't know.

but they have been getting a lot of criticism from a lot of, even pretty influential people on the right. I think the problem that they have is when they started their, building their new business, when they started in this industry, they really came out very strongly as a Christian family and a Christian couple, and that's how they promoted themselves. They talked about faith.

They talked about family, family values, and their work as, you know, kind of like a mission, basically, like an extension of like their ministry, so to speak. And they really leaned into that. And that's great. The problem is, is there are certain demographics that when you lean into, you can't compromise it after you lean into it. If you're going to go the evangelical route, if you're going to go the Christian route, you cannot temper it by including like a same-sex couple. Because A, that's not your base and it's not your base and B, it looks inconsistent. And authenticity, if there's anything that we've learned with the advent of social media and oversharing is that authenticity is king.

People like authenticity. They are gravitating away from the highly stylized curated stuff and they just want the real thing. They want authenticity. This looks highly inauthentic. it does kind of seem like they're doing it as a way to maybe insulate themselves against some of the criticisms they have received. And I'm just speculating for on my part here because I don't know why they would do it. I mean, there's certain things you can be as loving as you want to. And it has nothing to do with being mean or loving. You know, a lot of Christian people, they think, well, you know,

there's multiple different kinds of sin. And one of the reasons that people, you know, try to speak about it is because they love people and they want people to be able to join them in heaven. And that's, you know, I remember Penn and Teller, I think it was Penn who had said, because he's an atheist. And he had said that he actually, of all of his friends, he loves his Christian friends. And he was saying that someone asked him if he, if he was ever annoyed that they were trying to like witness to him. And he said, no, I would be mad at them and think they were inauthentic if they didn't. Because they, if they really believe this, then they really believe in this kind of life after death and why wouldn't you want someone that you care for to take part in that? And so they're

reaching out to me so that I can experience that. And he had said that that was, you know, it, it really, he, he kind of uses that as a basis to determine someone's validity in their belief set. And I think that makes a lot of sense. And I apply that to this situation as well. And I think that Christians, especially those who have followed the gainses this entire time, they have every, every reason and justification to question, why are you doing this now? It would be one thing if they started and they came out as, what am I thinking of? Not agnostic in terms of belief, but agnostic in terms of their content, what they talked about their content and the perspective through which they wanted to show you their content. And they didn't take that route.

And that's why it feels like a 180 to so many of their content. base because now it kind of seems like regardless of where you're at, it kind of seems like they're doing it. It would be like, you know, it would be like a gay couple all of a sudden, you know, going back on and going the other way. It just, it's inconsistent. It doesn't make sense, especially if you've built your career on this, right? It would be like that show Queer Eye for the straight guy, just having like all straight stylists or something. You know what I mean? It's just different. Why would you, why would you flip like that with your base? And I think that this is what a lot of people are asking questions on.

And I've never met Chip and Joanna Gaines. I know his sister. And they're the sweetest family. And I don't think that anybody's doing this or having this position or expressing, you know, defense of their position out of meanness or cruelty. But I do think that he's coming across as a little bit too defensive on social media. And you've got to be careful with that because social media does not allow for a lot of nuance. And when you seem overly defensive, you seem hostile.

and you really want to avoid that, especially as it concerns this topic. And what I get from them is they're saying that, you know, this is it's about showing love and it's about, you know, showing, you know, including people showing love or whatever. And this is the defense that he has given in a couple of different tweets. I understand the Christian criticism of it that you don't show love by mainstreaming what the Bible has declared to be a sin. And you don't show love and acceptance by making someone easy in a behavior that goes against the scripture you claim to uphold. And I understand the criticisms that these individuals have. And that's not the media misrepresenting it. And it's not

these people misrepresenting their intentions. You cannot create an entire industry. based on faith and as an extension of your faith and then be seen as compromising it to the people who help build your business. That's the real problem here. And it does seem like whenever people get to a certain point in success that that tends to happen, it is very, very hard to stand your ground. And there's all different types of ways that people try to use to justify it. But it is a very unpopular thing to say that the Bible says what it says. And that's what the Bible says. If people have a problem with it, they can take it up with God, not the people who are reading the Bible and just simply repeating what it says. It has nothing to do with the feeling of hatred or anything else.

Again, you either believe or you don't. You don't get to pick and choose what parts of scripture you want to believe and what parts of scripture you don't. And everybody falls short, by the way, of perfection. There's no such thing. I mean, that's why, you know, churches are often times viewed as a spiritual hospital, so to speak. But I don't know what their motivation for doing is, but it doesn't look good. And I think they need to find a different way to address it than what they're doing now, because this is going to really hurt them, especially now with younger generations being more conservative and demanding more authenticity and consistency. This is a really bad sign. Thanks for tuning in to today's edition of Dana Lash's absurd truth podcast. If you haven't

already, make sure to hit that subscribe button on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast.