The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Absurd Truth: David Mamet

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

Pete Hegseth is removing groomer and pedophile Harvey Milk’s name from a US Naval ship. The FBI halted a plot by Chinese nationals to smuggle an 'agroterrorism agent' into the US to wipe out our foo...d supply. American Playwright and Author David Mamet joins us to discuss why Democrats have LOST young men, the rise in anti-Semitism among young people and his latest work.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Ruff Greenshttps://ruffgreens.com/danaJumpstart your pet’s health with a FREE bag from Ruff Greens. Just cover shipping. Use promo code DANA today!Relief Factorhttps://relieffactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Goldcohttps://DanaLikesGold.com Protect your financial future with my trusted gold company—get your GoldCo 2025 Gold & Silver Kit today, and you could qualify for up to 10% in bonus silver.Byrnahttps://byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana receive 10% off. Patriot Mobilehttps://patriotmobile.com/DanaDana’s personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANA.HumanNFind both the new SuperBerine and the #1 bestselling SuperBeets Heart Chews at Sam’s Club!KelTechttps://KelTecWeapons.comSee the third generation of the iconic SUB2000 and the NEW PS57 - KelTec Innovation & Performance at its bestAll Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/DanaCode Dana20 for 20% off your entire order.Angel Studioshttps://Angel.com/danaStream King of Kings, check out fan-picked shows, and claim your member perks.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Dana Lash's absurd truth podcast, sponsored by Keltec. The Navy is mulling over new names for ships that replace stupid names for ships, named after people with no association to the Navy. So the Navy is going to rename the Harvey Milk Ship. And here's how Lefty cites, right, Huggseth orders the Navy to strip name. He's not, they're renaming it. It is the, uh, there was the office of the secretary of the Navy, the official, the Navy, the official who holds the power to name the ships, showed that they had come out with rollout
Starting point is 00:00:34 plans. They're renaming the oiler ship, the USNS, Harvey Milk. And you guys, you guys know Harvey Milk. He was basically, basically, he's a pedophile. He dated a 16-year-old boy. Harvey Milk also praised the Reverend Jim Jones. And in fact, in 1978, he wrote a letter to Jim Acotta, where he was defending Jones. And he was. was opposing this custody fight between this guy and his wife. Timothy Stone was the, he was trying to get his six-year-old son, John, who apparently was living there in Jonstown. And Harvey Milk wrote a letter to Jimmy Carter opposing that custody effort. He wanted to keep John at Jonestown. And John was amongst the 900 or so people who were killed in murder, suicide there a year later.
Starting point is 00:01:27 and this is what Harvey Milk wrote at the time, quote, Reverend Jones is widely known in the minority communities here and elsewhere as a man of the highest character, and he's undertaken constructive remedies for social problems, which have been amazing in their scope and effectiveness. He's also highly regarded amongst the church, labor, and civil civic leaders of a wide range of political persuasions. So he says that Timothy and Grace Stone, they're attempting to damage the Reverend's reputation. So anyway, just to let you know. And Harvey, yeah, Harvey Milk is, he's got issues. I mean, he had issues. The 16-year-old was just amongst them. He prayed on Jack McKinley when Milk was 33 and McKinley was 16. I mean, there's a lot there. There's nobody had any business name and a ship after this twink.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Nobody did. And so they're stripping him. They're stripping the ship of that name. Thankfully, golly, I'm shocked that the ship didn't sink or something like that. How is that not bad luck? So they, so that's, that was good news to hear that. They said that they confirmed it was making preparations, that it was brought on by Hegseth,
Starting point is 00:02:37 and that the, and the timing of the announcement during Pride Month was intentional. Good. And, and they're also going to target other ships. I just, why are you naming ships after people that had nothing to do with the military? Or, like, ships, right? It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:02:56 so they had like the USNS Ruth Bader Ginsburg seriously come on I don't know so they're renaming them maybe we can have like some you know better names than some of these I don't get it but I just why were we doing that in the first place
Starting point is 00:03:19 what was the point of that the left is so performative yes as Kane said yes the left wants to wants to tear down all the statues. Well, this is just, you know, we're returning the favor. That's all we're doing. We're returning the favor and restoring some dignity to these vessels. So that's a good to see.
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Starting point is 00:04:45 got rails up top for accessories. Ideal for everything, and it's made right here in the US of A. Learn more about celticweapons.com. Innovation Performance, Keltec, K-E-L-T-E-C Weapons.com. Tell them, Dana sent you. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this second hour, and you can listen coast to coast terrestrially. You can also stream it, Channel 347, Direct TV. We're on Rumble. We're on X. We're on YouTube, Facebook, everywhere. One of the things that we've been talking about, and I always believe that, you know, obviously everything political, stems from culture. And it's one of, I think, the best lessons that I learned from a very dear friend of mine, who is my one-time boss, the lady Andrew Breitbart, who introduced me to the work, not the film work, but like the political thought work of my next guest. And I mean, just like a brand new world to open up. David Mamet doesn't really need an introduction. I mean, he's an American icon. And it's crazy because I've, it's very weird to actually talk to somebody who has
Starting point is 00:05:49 such a great body of work and who, I think, redefined how movies talk and was such a great writer of dialogue and character development. And, I mean, the scene, the Chicago away scene from the Untouchables is, I think, one of the standout scenes that really got me into that genre. And I've read almost everything that he's done. I think I've seen everything that he's done. And he's just a living legend. And he's also like-minded, which is very weird. It's like-headed. It's like finding a two-headed calf. He's like-minded. That doesn't happen very often. David Mamet now joins us via video. He's got a new book out, the Disenlightment, politics, horror, and entertainment, and also a new film that he did with Shia LeBuff, Henry Johnson, which you can find
Starting point is 00:06:34 on the website, Henryjohnsonmovie.com, and he joins us now. David, it's such a pleasure to have you. I've always wanted to talk with you. Thanks so much for giving us some of your time. Congrats on the new film. Congrats on the book. And thank you for setting all of these knuckleheads straight about everything. I've watched a number of your interviews, and I mean, I've been hearing about it, too, from other viewers and members of our audience who are watching you, and they're like, he gets it. And people feel so encouraged that someone who does what you do understands their perspective. So thank you. Thank you so much. You know, I was thinking about you today, and I know you like beats, right? Yes. You know I do. Okay. And I wanted to say that what's missing when we
Starting point is 00:07:15 say the Judeo-Christian civilization is no longer applicable. What's missing is shame. So you see a lot of things, people on the left are free to lie because they have no shame, and they have no shame before each other. They have no shame before God because they aren't grateful. So I wanted to tell you that the greatest aid to gratitude is Beats. Do you know why? Why? Okay. I love Beats. I know you love Beats. You so live. superbeats. So I was thinking, you know, you eat beats, I love yum, yum, yum.
Starting point is 00:07:49 You get up the next morning and you look, you're peeing. And oh my God, you see, my urine is red, I'm pissing blood. So the first thing you think is, oh, my God, so soon, so soon, well, I guess that's the thing. Then you think who's going to get my pocket knife collection? And then
Starting point is 00:08:05 you think, I hope my wife doesn't marry a lawyer if she does, well, shame on her. And then you remember that you ate beats and you say, my God, thank you. I'm not actually dying. I have another day. It's a gift. So I wanted to thank you for promoting the religiosity of the gratitude of beats. It is my pleasure. And I think it's more pleasurable than asparagus. So you're welcome. You're welcome on that. I wanted to ask you
Starting point is 00:08:37 because you've, I think that you get the, I mean, obviously, because you know, you're a man. I mean, you get the psyche of men and you get the psyche of male characters. And I think you better than anyone can kind of really see into that. And I bring this up because, as you know, and you've talked about this a little bit, Democrats are, you know, fellow Americans on the other side of the aisle. They actually spent $20-something million to study men to try to figure out where they went wrong with men this last election. They're trying to understand what the disconnect is. What do you think the disconnect is with the left?
Starting point is 00:09:13 I don't think they need to spend that on it. Well, you know, Schiller, that's not the philosopher, my oculist. He said with stupidity, even the gods struggle in vain. It's the one thing I know that Schiller said. It's so true. If someone, you know, there's two phrases that everyone's using on the left now, double down and die on this hill. So it's all about doubling down. So if you're stupid, if you've done something stupid, as I certainly have, I try to do it, you know, as little as possible.
Starting point is 00:09:47 When I do it again every day, wisdom comes from being able to step back and saying, you know what, that was stupid. The problem with the left is that they've plucked themselves into a corner, because if they say if any of these absurd, blasphemous, horrendous, savage ideas that they've doubled down on, their life is over. they know it, because they're going to lose their spouse, they're going to lose their kids in their head, they're going to lose their job, they're going to lose their community. So they have to keep doubling down. And that's why, for example, as it becomes clearer and clearer that climate change as a hoax, they've doubled down an anti-Semitism. Because rather than saying, wait a second, let's stop, right?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Let's go down to the kitchen table and see what's actually happening. They have to reinforce their stupidity to make sure they're all on the same page, because that's what happens in a totalitarian regime. Yes. Yes, that's true. That's absolutely true. The phrase toxic masculinity, I think, had contributed a lot to that, this idea that men couldn't be men anymore, and that men, especially like some of the characters that you've written, that those men are somehow anachronistic with our times today, that they're out of vogue, that these men don't, there's no place in society for manly men anymore. But I don't see that. I don't, I don't
Starting point is 00:11:10 see that? And I feel like that's, do you think that the pendulum is swinging the other way? Because it seems like for so long, men have been under attack. They've been, I think, discredited, disenfranchised, however you want to put it. And now I feel like Democrats in the left, they sort of realize that they have played the wrong hand. Are we, are, is that pendulum going to swing back? Are we going to have like a reset where things feel a little bit more, I don't know, the best, way to say it normal you do normal correct how would you how do you view that are we going to get back to the way that it was like the 80s and the 90s when things seem saner well they were saner um we're in the midst of a huge cultural upheaval and i i think that it's largely formed
Starting point is 00:12:00 it's caused by a huge shift in technology just as the culture started to fall apart in the the late of the early 19th century because of the industrial revolution everything changed so things have changed yet again now because of the computer revolution everything is changed and we have and in order to so rather
Starting point is 00:12:23 saying wait a second wait a second wait a second what's changed what can I do about it which Elon is saying and Trump is saying and the Republicans are saying people are saying no no no no no something is terribly wrong but it's not that the culture has changed which it's very difficult to look at
Starting point is 00:12:39 that. It's saying, you know what it is? Men are toxically masculine. People are born into the wrong sex. Jews of the devil. And the earth is burning. And P.S. any man who wants to compete in women's sports. So it's chicken little, whoever is screaming the loudest, because who is capable of stepping back and understanding the time in which he or she lives? The answer is nobody. And that's why we have laws. Yeah. Right? Because if not, we're going to resort to our feelings and our feeling absent laws and absent the idea that we can rely on the government, this panic. Look, for the first time in many years,
Starting point is 00:13:17 I'm not walking around, and a lot of people aren't walking around saying, oh, my God, if I say the wrong thing, someone's going to throw me in jail. So for the first time, certainly in the last four years, I and everybody on the right is saying, I believe in government, which is not to say so much that I believe in Trump,
Starting point is 00:13:33 although it may, but saying I believe in law. Right. And I believe that the law is going to exist to protect the citizen. Well, and that's the nature of a republic, right? Everyone's equal before the law and underneath the law when they violated. I mean, it's not a rejection of government so much as it's an embrace, embracing fair and equally apportioned government, I guess, for the lack of a better way to say it.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I mean, I think that that makes sense. I know that you're a fan of POTUS and you don't, you identify basically as I think a conservative is what I read, which, you know, you like to conserve the individual. which I think is the best way to put it. That's how I've always viewed it. How do you view conservatism in modern times now? I mean, is it, it feels like it's, it feels like it's the common sense place to be. It's like the, not the common sense party, but it's like the common sense ideology.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And it seems like people who have never really maybe identified as that before. Maybe there were classical liberals. Maybe they thought they were kind of more moderate progressives. Now they, now they think this is so much common sense due to so much of what you said. So now they're embracing the word conservative, conserving common sense, conserving individualism. Yeah, I think so. You know, it says in the Talmud, where there is no bread, there is no law, and where there is no law, there is no bread. So the question of conservatism, constitutional conservatives, is not what is the right thing to do?
Starting point is 00:14:56 Because a lot of times we don't look good, because we all have passions, right? We want to belong, we want to feel good about ourselves. And so this idea of classical liberalism, what is the right thing to do, the idea of social justice, which has to mean injustice, right? Because it's based on a feeling. The correct question is not what is the right thing to do, but the correct question is what is the law. Now, can the law be wrong? Sure. We have a law which enables us to change that. Additionally, that against my people, the Jews say the prophet Micah says, what are you supposed to do? do justice, love mercy, and be humbled before God. So that's the correct answer to me. And it's conservatism. Absolutely do justice. But you've got to love mercy too.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Right? But they're two different verbs, aren't they? Yes, yeah, exactly. And they're not entirely mutual exclusive either, I think. We're talking to David Mamet. Not at all. Yeah, exactly. Talking to David Mamet, legendary screenwriter, author.
Starting point is 00:16:00 He's got a new film out as well. Henry Johnson with Shia LeBuff, and you can see it at Henryjohnsonmovie.com. You mentioned, too, anti-Semitism. This is an insane thing here. It's 2025. And I honestly, I hear from my kids, I have a son in college. And he says that he's noticed an increase in anti-Semitism with his generation. Talk to me a little bit about that.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Because, again, it's 2025. I don't know if we're just so far removed. from the greatest generation that we're like forgetting the horror i i'm just trying to wrap my mind around why this is like we had a guy who tried to set people on fire in boulder and then there was uh i mean there's like been at least like three i think attacks there was a couple that was shot at in dc what are your thoughts on this and and why how are we in this how are this happening in 2025 what's happening for a bunch of reasons one is that uh my people the jews have not had a state for 2,000 years. We've been at the best guests and at the worst slaves and always
Starting point is 00:17:04 at the mercy of whatever country we were living in because we were never actually citizens. So we got into the habit of keeping our head down and saying, I can put up with it, I can put up with it. Eventually, they're going to kill some of us, blah, blah, blah. Finally, the state of Israel comes along with some people say, you know, that's enough. We have to have our own state, as Theodore Herzl said, when he was looking at Dreyfus, who was being maligned as a traitor in France in 1895. He was a Jewish officer. And Herzl was a very famous and successful Austrian playwright and assimilated Jew.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And he went to see Dreyfus being disgraced for a false accusation of treason. But the people weren't yelling death to the traitor. They were yelling death to the Jews. And Herzl sat down and he said, oh my God, they're going to kill us all. We need our own country. right and by the grace of god 50 years later we have our own country but a lot of the world still does it's listen it's it's the go-to things a guy loses whose his job becomes on me beats his wife okay she says if you do that again i'm going to leave he comes back again he beats her
Starting point is 00:18:17 again she goes to the cops the cops say wait a second be a good wife this doesn't happen anymore, but that's a traditional unfortunate outbreak of people who were defenseless. So to say to the Jew, to say of the Jews, what are you doing to bring it about?
Starting point is 00:18:35 It's the same thing as saying of the wife, well, what was the expression on your face when your husband came home? Now, the reason anti-Semitism is breaking out, again, is for two reasons. One is that the society is reinventing itself because of this. The computers up and did everything, how we date, whom we marry, how we work, how we talk to each other, what we see,
Starting point is 00:18:59 where we get our news, and it upsets everything. So people are upset, so what are they going to do? Just like the guy who comes home when he kicks his wife, he is going to go to the most proximate permitted victim, which is for 2,000 years been to Jews. There's the second thing, and I think that we understand that when we look at Greta Thunberg, right? Here's a little girl, God bless her. You know, she's a professional truant. She says, the earth is burning, run for your life. The earth is burning. Run for your life. Okay. Give her the Nobel Peace Prize, you know, and pat her on the back and put her on the cover of Time magazine. Now, it turns out that the left gets tired of this fiction. And it turns out the earth is not burning and the polar ice caps are increasing.
Starting point is 00:19:46 So now what? What does Greta Thundberg do? She gets on a ship to go to Gaza. What in the hell does this little girl who's never gone to school in her life? God bless her. All of a sudden, in addition to knowing about the earth is burning, she knows about what's happening in Israel. She just ran out of steam so she crossed decked herself. So that's what's happening to a lot. Those are the two things that lead to anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 00:20:11 It's a proximate victim, and the left is always moving from one horror to the next. It's COVID. It's the Y2K thing. Islamophobia. It's the earth is burning. And now it's the Jews. Okay. What's new? I mean, I think that's
Starting point is 00:20:31 it entirely. I wish that we had more time because I feel like it's like drinking from a fire hose. And I love the points that you make. And I think that you're such a great mind, especially in not just conservative ideology, but political ideology. The new book is the Disenlightenment.
Starting point is 00:20:48 The Secret Knowledge was the first book of years that I read. And then I went back out of order and read all your other ones. But Andrew Breitbart gave me that book. And that's how I was introduced to all of your conservative thought, was that the secret knowledge. David Mamet, and the new film, Henry Johnson was shyly above. Henry Johnsonmovie.com. You can go get it, watch it right on the site. David, it's such a pleasure. I would love to have you back. I'd love to talk with you for a longer period and do like a sit down. I think that you just have so much to say and I'm all here for it. So thank you so much for your time. You've been so generous today. So anytime at all,
Starting point is 00:21:17 it's a real pleasure talking to you, Dana. Thank you so much. Thanks so much. God bless. David Mamet, everyone. And make sure you go see the new film, Henry Johnson, and get the new book, which is fabulous, by the way. We have more in store as we wrap up this second hour stick with us, third hour on the way. Gold Coe precious metals. This is a great hedge in uncertain times. I mean, this is like one of, I love the gold standard, all about gold and silver. And you can get your free 2025 golden silver kit today. Qualify and get unlimited bonus silver from Gold Co. That's real silver. And it's instantly matched to your account, tax and penalty. free. Gold and silver, as you know, have stood the test of time. And these are hard assets that offer real security. Get educated before you invest, though. They tell you everything that you need to know. It breaks down how precious metals fits into your financial strategy. And again, you can unlock that exclusive bonus silver. If you qualify, Goldco will match your investment with unlimited bonus silver. And I love no taxes or penalties. It's so great. Visit dana likes gold.com. Join thousands of people who have called Goldco, the number one rated gold company. And you
Starting point is 00:22:20 get that free copy of their 2025 golden silver kit and qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. It's Dana likes gold.com. And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five. So apparently it's a killdozer day. Do you know that? Happy killdozer day. If you're unfamiliar with killdozer day, killdozer, this was a guy who was a repair shop owner. He had a modified bulldozer in Granbury, Colorado. This is in June 2004. and Marvin Heemeyer and he was he didn't hurt he didn't hurt anybody during his rage except for himself unfortunately but he was upset because of he was a disgruntled resident because of a zoning
Starting point is 00:23:11 dispute and so he destroyed his store and like went on a rampage and he had this killed he had this bulldozer completely kidded out there's no way you could get into it this thing was reinforced six ways to Sunday. But he was known for the killdozer rampage. It was falling down, come to life. It literally was. I mean, it absolutely was.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Let's see. Also, I thought that was very important to share because it was June 4th. So Kildor's the day is the date. Unfortunately, his rampage ended and he committed suicide, which is sad. But let's see here, a couple of other things while I wait for all of this to reload because it's so ridiculously slow.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Yeah, I know. It's Safari. What are you going to do? I can't. U.S. is apparently going to offer Iran a nuclear deal, allowing temporary uranium enrichment. We'll follow up with more about that. And Emmanuel Macron waxwork was stolen from a Paris museum by Greenpeace activists. I don't know what they're going to do with it, but I'm all for waiting to find out. They stole, it's going to melt. Like if it's warm over there, the thing is going to, don't you have to keep those things in like a temperature-controlled room? scientists were stunned as heat caught on camera bounced like sun it was the first time apparently that it was ever captured
Starting point is 00:24:24 and they said that researchers at MIT used a new mapping technique to observe heat moving as a wave and bouncing back and forth it's a wave-like manner and a phenomenon that they call second sound and it's the first time that they were able to actually capture it Walt Disney is going to live again as a robot his granddaughter said he never wanted this saddest headline ever they're gonna try to make him a robot and his granddaughter says it's freaky and she said that she had no he does not want this he was
Starting point is 00:24:55 just grandpa and he does not want something like this I would agree actually uh oh wait I'm gonna go all the way back to here uh Texas woman dies from brain eating amoeba after using tainted RV water I am really weird about water sources really weird and she was using
Starting point is 00:25:11 nasal this way you only used to still water if you're going to do this stuff She used RV water that was tainted, where she was, I guess, doing like a nutty pot. And, yeah, she had neurological symptoms days after, and it was branding an amoeba, and it killed her. It's horrible. These Chinese nationals that were charged were smuggling agro-terrorism, an agent into the U.S. They said it was a direct threat. They were studying to the University of Michigan Labs.
Starting point is 00:25:41 the FBI director, Cash Patel, said that these two nationals, they were charged with smuggling a dangerous biological pathogen. They wanted to study it at the University of Michigan, K&C. And, I mean, obviously, that's a serious threat. They said that, yeah, the CCP's continuing to deploy operatives and researchers to infiltrate institutions and target food supply. And then, I mean, it really could. I mean, there's a reason why Customs is so crazy. about, you know, food and animals and seeds and stuff. It was a
Starting point is 00:26:15 fungus called Fusarerarium, gramarium, I don't know. It's basically what's defined as a potential agro-terrorism weapon. And they said it causes head blight, a disease of weed, barley, maize, and rice, and is responsible for
Starting point is 00:26:33 billions of dollars in economic losses worldwide each year. And the toxins also cause vomiting, liver damage, and reproductive defects. And humans and livestock. And in the criminal complaint, one of the researchers, 33 years old, received Chinese government funding for her work on the pathogen in China and that they describe her membership. You have to be in good standing in the CCP to be able to go back and forth like that. The other individual lied about smuggling it in. He brought it into the Detroit Metropolitan
Starting point is 00:27:05 Airport, you know, because if you were all up on the above, you know, in the up and up, and you were going to bring in something like this and study it, yeah, you definitely smuggle it in and try to avoid border protection and customs. That's exactly what you do. You know, if you're on the up and up, that's the first thing you're going to do is sneak it into the country, right? It's ass and I. Nobody believes that. So, yeah, I think they should be put to death. You're, you're, I mean, you committed an egregious violation of U.S. law. I think that we coddle these, But I think we coddle these people. This is, again, another example of the CCP presenting a grave national security concern to the United States.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I mean, tell me how I'm wrong. I think death penalty for these two. Send their remains to China. I mean, why not? It's so dumb with this. How long has China been doing this? Can you imagine if something like that were to get, yeah, they brought it in to study it. That's why they snuck it through and lied about sneaking it in and took great precautions to conceal it from customs and border patrol.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah. That's right. I mean, it's a very harmful biological material. And so they obviously are detained. And I guess we'll wait and see they're, they announced, I think they announced these charges yesterday. What did you say? We wonder why our bread is horrible here. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's not only the stuff that they spray on for pesticides and things like that. But how do we know this hasn't happened before? How do we know that none of this stuff is already in the country already affecting our food supply? How do we know that? Well, they'd discovered, so in 2024 of last year, one of them was turned away at the Detroit airport and sent back to China because he kept changing his story when he was being interrogated about red plant material that they found in his backpack. And he was lying about it. And he apparently was exchanging some pretty damaging messages with the partner there on his phone. But they said they found a scientific article on his phone. titled Plant Pathogen Warfare Under Changing Climate Conditions. And they both, neither of them could keep their story straight.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And the other thing, too, is if you're going to claim that you are going to study a tightly controlled pathogen that's monitored by USDA and Homeland Defense and all this stuff because of the damage that it could do to crops, livestock, and humans, that you would lie and claim that you are going to study it at a university that has the federal permit to handle it. Because apparently, in order to handle this type of pathogen to study it, you have to have a specific, actually several specific federal permits to handle it. And apparently the University of Michigan does not. So not only did they
Starting point is 00:30:07 hide it, but then they lied and said that they were going to go and study it at a university that doesn't have the actual physical capability to contain it, and nor the permits granted to it to actually handle it. So, yeah, they're terrorists. They are, this was an act, a hostile act by the CCP. They should be put to death. I mean, and they, And immediately, and they were described as two aliens presenting the gravest national security concern, according to charging docs. But, yeah, we don't have an extradition treaty with China. So I think one of them did. There was another one apparently that did get away, but he's not going to get arrested unless he comes back to the United States.
Starting point is 00:30:58 So that's probably never going to happen. But, yeah, it makes all the sense in the world. They're really bad spies. Think about this. For all the talk about the CCP being, you know, so, you know, I guess, suave and so good at spying, this is really bad. This is like some JV stuff. Like you can't even, you can't keep your story straight under interrogation.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And then you can't even provide yourself with a good enough cover story and select a university that actually has the capability and the, the, the permittance to handle this stuff. I mean, that's just like, their spies suck. How are we getting duped by China? I mean, they sent a giant goofy bloop, bloop, balloon over here, and we're like, oh, really? Like, how are we getting dup by them?
Starting point is 00:31:54 I mean, it's like a third, it's a third world nation. It is. Stop looking at the photos and the propaganda. Come on. This is, I don't know. I'm just shocked that anyone was even remotely fooled and the fact that they had them in like little baggies in their backpack I don't know how this pathogen is set to be contained but cane baggies are not you know the gold standard for sealing off things no no pathogens or anything yeah you don't want to just put it in a Ziploc no that's what they did not even kidding not even I mean I think they were in like I was looking at the photos like a Ziploc maybe in a zip lock they uh you mean like an old school sandwich bag they used let me let me let me let me let me yeah yeah like legit like a snack bag or something it looks like a little snack bag
Starting point is 00:32:45 oh yeah that's those are the little baggies they had a little bitty baggies and they had those in their backpacks like how was that not all over you dude that's not nothing's contained in that no walking through the airports with that in their backpacks you know durp Just another day. Another day in China. My gosh. Well, no wonder they eat bats. Just saying.
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