The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Biden's Autopen, Trump's NATO Deal & More Epstein Backlash

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

President Trump hosts NATO officials in the Oval Office. Dana reflects on the one year anniversary of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Trump posts on Truth Social blaming Obama for the Epstein Files and tells his base to move on. Joe Biden defends the frequent autopen use at the end of term including a pardon of Dr. Fauci. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz says that illegal alien detainees are forced to brush their teeth where they poop. Trump is asked whether he would let Rosie O’Donnell back into the country. Chip and Joanna Gaines have responded to criticism from some evangelical groups after their new Magnolia Network series, Back to the Frontier, featured a same-sex couple with two sons. Elmo’s Twitter account gets hacked and tweets a slew of anti-Semitic statements. Another socialist announces a mayoral run, this time in Minneapolis. State Department employees cry and hug after getting fired. Stephen Yates from Heritage joins us to react to Trump’s weapons deal with NATO. Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Angel Studioshttps://Angel.com/danaStream King of Kings, check out fan-picked shows, and claim your member perks.Allio CapitalDownload Allio from the App Store or Google Play, or text “DANA” to 511511 to get started today.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Medical freedom is American freedom. Use code DANA10 to get 10% off your order.Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana receive 10% off.Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana’s personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANA.HumanNhttps://humann.comFind both the new SuperBerine and the #1 bestselling SuperBeets Heart Chews at Sam’s Club!Keltechttps://KelTecWeapons.comSee the third generation of the iconic SUB2000 and the NEW PS57 - Keltec Innovation & Performance at its best.

We've made a deal today, and I'm going to have Mark speak about it, but we've made a deal today where we are going to be sending them weapons and they're going to be paying for them. The United States will not be having any payment made. We are not buying it, but we will manufacture it and they're going to be paying for it. Our last meeting of a month ago is very successful in that they agreed to 5%, which is more than a trillion dollars a year, so they have a lot of money. And these are wealthy nations. They have a lot of money. And they want to do it. They feel very strongly about it.

And we feel strongly about it, too. But we're in for a lot of money, and we just, we don't want to do anymore. And we can. But we make the best, and we're going to be sending the best to NATO. And in some cases, to maybe at Mark's suggestion, if we go to Germany, where they're going to send early on missiles, and they'll be replaced. And NATO's going to take care of it. It's going to be coordinated by, uh,

NATO, and they're going to work very much with Matt Whitaker, who's right here as a great ambassador, and Matt's going to be, coordinate. You better do a good job, Matt. I will. But Matt's going to coordinate. He's a very talented guy. He's going to coordinate everything. So I'm glad that we had that clarification as to how that exchange is taking place, the weaponry to Ukraine.

And this is one of the things I had asked last week, because it wasn't offered up as a, it wasn't any information. that was divulged to the press at the time, like whether or not that's something that they would be paying for or if it was going to be more of like what we saw under Biden. And it's just simply they are going to be just like welfare. It's like weapons warfare. If we're just going to be handing stuff over, you know, without without any kind of exchange, like monetary exchange taking place. So if we're selling it, you know, then really there's not. a lot that Russia can say because Russia has repeatedly funded and sent weaponry to a number of, you know, I would say people who don't have the United States best interest at heart.

And because they weren't directly supplying it, you know, it was considered, oh, it's not, it's not an act of war. It's not escalating anything. It's not violating anything. So therefore, it's not a major issue. done because remember under Biden, now we talked about this quite a bit with Stephen Yates. Under Biden, we were really, I mean, we didn't, they were even blocking, you know, the sale of, you know, munitions to Taiwan and to Israel. And, and they were really dragging their feet in a number of,

a number of places. And it was incredibly frustrating. And so now at least, you know, we're having, we have this. So welcome. to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this first hour. And we're going to break down, you know, some of the things that you may have missed over the weekend and get into that. We have a few things to touch on, just, you know, just the latest that we heard from

the president. He was sitting there with NATO having that conversation. We're going to get into the latest on that. We're also going to talk about this auto pin. Who? Is there some new developments with the auto pin? issue. It's pretty unbelievable. We got that. We're going to get also the latest Trump on Epstein, and he waited into this and saved Pam Bondi. We're going to discuss this. There are a lot of people

infuriated over this. Have you seen like our comments on anything lately, Kane? What? I see that face? What? Don't, don't look because people are, people is mad with a capital Maya. Yeah, they're, they're quite angry over this. I get it. And I, I, I, I, I, I, I think it, I understand that it has to do with a two-tier system of justice. And I think that's ultimately, and obviously, you know, people are worried about who was exploited. But it really does seem like, you know, they're very upset over the appearance of a two-tier system of justice. That's kind of, you know, that's what it seems like the people are angry the most about. So, and then, of course, we'd had a year ago.

It was a year ago, yesterday. the assassination, and a lot of questions remain about that. So we're going to bring all of this up, all of this up to speed. We got a couple of things in the New York Times to get into today, which is so weird. Oh my gosh, and Elmo got hacked. I don't even know. And then we got the whole Chip and Joanna Gaines thing as well that I noticed over the weekend. Where do we start, Cain?

Let's just roll the, first off, let me start. Let's just do this. Let's get into, it was a year ago. Recap this real quick. The assassination attempt of POTUS. And we were in, we were coming back from like a very remote area. Because, you know, I have to try to get the furthest away from human civilization as possible. So we were literally out in what they call the out islands.

We were way out. And you had to take some very interesting machinery to get back to mainland. I say machinery because is it a plane? I don't know. I felt like I was in Chippendale Rescue Rangers. I felt like I was, you know, Ballou was piloting the plane. anyway, so we are coming back and we had a layover in NASA. That kind of was disastrous, but that's a whole other story.

We had a layover in NASA. And right as we land, like my phone is going crazy because I didn't, you know, obviously you got to keep it on airplane mode while you're on the plane. And then the Bahamian airport is NASA's airport. It's like a black hole. Like you can't, even Patriot Mobile had like two bars in there. And that is what if Patriot Mobile only has two bars. ours good luck world like at you have starlink and then you have patriot mobile anyway so i go

outside because we ended up having our flight canceled it was crazy and i mean i can't get a video to load because i think everybody in the airport was doing the same thing i was so everybody was trying to figure out what happened so i called kane and we're like oh my gosh potus was shot well potus were shot and we were trying desperately to figure out like what is he okay is he you know what happened i mean you're the president of united states is shot for crying out so uh I had texted, because I've known him for a long time, I texted Don Jr. And how do you ask somebody that they're, you know, how's your dad doing? I heard he was shot.

You know, he's, you know, it's potus. He's running for president of the United States. He's, you know, probably going to be the next potus. What a weird question. What a weird question that is to ask somebody. So I heard your dad was shot. Is he all right? You know, like, oh.

So I texted. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I, you know, just landed and I read the news is, is everything okay? Oh, my word. And he was like, you know, thank you so much for checking in. He was like, dad is fine. He's fine. He was grayed.

He's like, you know, it was a real scare. I mean, yeah, obviously. But I cannot, I've never experienced. I don't, I'm never, I never really good onnerved. And I don't, because I always think preparation, preparation, preparation is key, right? To prevent, you know, you from being in a bad situation or prevent any kind of, you know, weirdness or whatever. And I got to tell you, I've never felt weirder in my entire. life than being out of the country and you hear that the, you know, he was going, you know,

he was going to be at that point, the president of the United States said he was shot. And it's just, and I think the feeling is because you, the United States, you view yourself as an American and your country as being really untouchable. And people are going to respect the authority. You know, they're going to. And that someone did that and that they were able to get that close is unreal. And I think that's the big, I think that was the thing that really kind of contributed, why it was such a weird feeling. Because it was something like, well, you know, we're the United States.

How dare you do this? How dare this happen here? You know, we're the most advanced, you know, wealthiest nation in the world. How, you know, how dare you do this to our eventual president? You know, how dare you? So it was weird in a number of different ways. And we still, we have the fewest answers. I think if this would been, and I hate saying this, but I really do feel as though if this was a,

had been a Democrat president, you would have known absolutely everything, you know. You would have known absolutely everything. You would know everything about this guy, everything about his family. We know so little still today. It's wild. We know so little. today. And doesn't it seem as though they took the longest

time possible getting to the point of, oh, well, these agents are suspended? I mean, it's been a year. I had that headline last week. It's been a year. It's weird. It's incredibly weird. And it's just,

I've got a lot of questions about it. Selena Zito, her Washington examiner, had a whole thing because she was right there. She was like a year later, you know, there's so many things we don't know. And again, it comes down to if it is that incompetent that it leaves that type of negligence

just open and hanging in the wind, it's so bad you almost think it's purposeful. We're going to come back to it. We got more on it. We also have the latest with Epstein. So you know a lot of people have been very upset over Pambondi. And this now,

I don't want to say like, I guess reveal, reveal that there was no there's no client list is what she's saying. And POTUS, well, he was asked about it. He's asked about it a couple of times and he was angry. Then he had a post out where he basically told everybody to get over it. And that, you know, he's a dead guy and that this guy continues to live. And there are a lot of people that are very upset over this.

He, for the first time ever, because he posted this on his true social account, he got ratioed. Trump got ratioed on truth social. That's what I'm asking you. Like, have you seen whenever we talk about Epstein, whenever I post anything about Epstein online, the rage is real. People are genuinely upset about it. And it really is, I think the, again, the main reason I think people are so upset over it is because it very much is like this two tiers of justice kind of thing. So he posted this. on true social. He had a post and he was saying that we're on one team MAGA and I don't like what's happening. Let's not waste time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. I'm not going to read the whole thing because there's, I mean, it was like several graphs. And it was a very lengthy post. And it had over 36,000 replies. And this was just yesterday. And 11,000 reposts. And people were livid in the comments. This, I know, I'm not. going to read it. Juan's showing you right now. It is a big

giant post that he had. It is a huge big giant post. Is it still? Because when I looked at, and I got these numbers, this was last night. Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. It's showing 46,000 comments, 41.2,000 likes. Yep. He said that

he goes, one year ago our country was dead. Now it's the hottest country anywhere in the world. Let's keep it that way and not waste time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to this matter. and he had asked, he said, now my so-called friends are playing right into their hands talking about, he was trying to say that it has to do with the left. He said, for years, it's Epstein over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama, crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the losers and criminals of the administration?

He said they created the Epstein files, just like they created the fake dossier. Wait a minute. They didn't create that to go after him. Trump was never on like the flight logs or anything like that. that. The most that anyone can ever say is that he was at some events that Epstein was at, and people run around and they take these society photos that happens at every one of these events, and he was there, and they took a photo, and that's kind of how it went. This, if anything, it impugns Democrats more than it ever would Republicans. And I don't under, I think that his approach on this is wrong. I disagree with him. I don't think that this has anything to do with, I don't think that this was something that they're trying to cobble together

to go after him. I think that there are people. on the left and maybe some on the right. I don't know, but there are people, period, that are clearly compromised by this dude, by this Epstein guy. The only reason that everybody's talking about it so much is because Trump did. And so many Republicans did. Hell, I can't tell you how many fundraisers I went to, which I'm not going to anymore now, because I'm mad at the Republican party for botching, you know, the NFA stuff with a big, beautiful bastard bill and all this thing, all this. I'm mad at them. But anyway, can tell you how many fundraisers I went to where every single person gave this and included this in their speech. There was not an exception. I can't tell you

how many big events, whether it was turning point or whatever, they all, everybody mentioned this. So you can't go from like, from oversaturating, oversaturated discussion of it to get over it. And I think that, yes, I agree that if they had any information on him at all whatsoever, they would have already come out with it, which is why I don't think that they, I think this is more about the left. I think he's playing into their hands at this point. We got a lot more on before we get deep into it. And we got to get moving as well because we have headlines coming up as we do. All Family Pharmacy is a great website.

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I mean, you're talking about the auto pen. Look, the auto pen, I think, is maybe one. one of the biggest scandals that we've had in 50 to 100 years. This is a tremendous scandal. And I know the people on the other side of the Osset desk, that desks, unfortunately he used it before me. But you know, we have our choice of seven desks. They're all beautiful, but I chose the resolute, and so did he, unfortunately.

But the people on the other side of the resolute desk, I know them. Lisa, the whole group, and they're no good. They're sick people. And I guarantee he knew nothing about what he was signing. I guarantee it. I mean, POTUS was remarking on this Autopin story, which, excuse me, which is pretty amazing.

I don't know if you've seen some of the latest on it. Welcome back, first off, Dana Lash, with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. Channel 347 is where you can see the simulcast of the radio show and also the chats at Rumble. This New York Times piece said, quote, Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons rather than ask Biden to keep signing revised versions. His staff waited and then ran the final version through the auto pen, which they saw as routine. This New York Times piece said that even after he made the decision, the Bureau of Prisons kept providing additional information about. about specific inmates resulting in small changes, etc.

He, I mean, he really didn't have any idea at all. He was saying, well, I made every decision. But there's a lot of legal questions brought up in this. I mean, he did not individually approve each name. It seems like they're trying, doesn't it read like the New York Times is trying to do damage control to this with this story. They're stepping in like, oh, we're going to fix it for Biden. They said, so here's from this piece. It says in an interview with the New York Times, Biden said that he had orally granted all the pardons and commutations issued at the end of

his term, calling President Trump and other Republicans liars for claiming that his aides had used an autopin to do so without his authorization. So he's mad because how dare you question him? and how do you're questioning you questioned his competency which that's shouldn't i mean that should be open for i mean really uh resolution everybody's seen it and he's mad because people are asking questions about it and somehow you're a liar because he was competent and he knew what he was doing this is so stupid people saw when you see how bad he was in public and how quickly he declined Like he was, I mean, and he still is. You can't watch him when he was vice president under Barack Obama, even watch him through,

through the debates in 2020 before the election. And then see him, you know, in his final months in office before he left the White House and not notice that there is a remarkable, visual, audible decline. We can see it. we're not stupid. It's so insulting and I'm done pretending that this is something to be objected to. It's not. So the article says that all of these documents there, you know, they, they, they turned them over to the New York Times. They reviewed all these dozens of emails, etc. You know, they said we have not seen, the New York Times admitted they haven't seen the full

extent of the emails. But the ones that they saw show that the White House had a process to establish that Biden had, he orally made the decisions in meetings before the staff secretary, Stephanie Feldman. And she, Stephanie Feldman, was the one who managed the use of the auto pen. See, so he told her in a room where you couldn't have record of it. And that should be enough for you unwashed masses. Not kidding. That's the way this sounds. They said that he had his staff used an auto pen for these warrants. He had granted clemency to so many people. It was used on 25 pardoned clemency warrants.

Some of them included large batches and names because they just all fell into the same broad category. Wow. So he was, one of his defenses was that he was pardoning so many people because he thought that they might face politically motivated criminal investigations, which is one of the most ironic things that I think I've heard this administration say, the previous administration. say the previous administration. But this, I just don't know, only the president, when you have a federal pardon, only the office of the executive can issue a federal pardon. No one else can do this. Not the, not Ms. Feldman, not her. Nobody else can do this. No one else can issue that. and I think it really poses a question of legality to all of this. There should be hearings.

There should be hearings for this. And the idea that he would just, that Biden would just say, oh, yeah, well, we can like, you know, go and sign this person. We can go ahead and grant them clemency or a pardon or et cetera. for him to say that verbally, and there be like really no record of him authorizing the people and then having this woman who manages the auto pin do it, I think that's the question,

because if you can prove that he actually issued while he's competent, these pardons as president, I mean, nobody can mess with that. But that's the question. Did he actually do it himself? Did he actually issue these pardons himself? self. That's the big question. And like I said, going into this times piece, and it's really weird,

because I just don't know how that stands up where you can be Stephanie Feldman, who's his staff secretary again, and she manages the use of the auto pin. I mean, it literally says that, oh, the process they had established was that he would orally make this decision in a meeting before the staff secretary. And then she would be the one who would manage the auto pin. Because he reduced the sentences of 4,000 convicts. And he preemptively pardoned a ton of different people. There's a lot of questions about this. I mean, the president has to consent. In order for the auto pen to be legally valid, the president has to consent to his signature being placed on the document. And so then if the consent isn't given, constitutional law then establishes that there

wasn't a pardon that has been issued. So you can't say that the left is trying to say that Trump is trying to revoke pardons. That's the wrong way of saying it because if Biden didn't even know that his signature was being used, then technically no pardon was issued according to existing case law. So or existing law that's no pardon was issued. And having this, you know, email, they were trying to say, oh, well, the president makes the final decision. It's sounds to me like these people had emails to back and forth to each other to establish some weak paper trail. But in the emails where they're saying, oh, well, Biden makes the final decision on this, et cetera, et cetera, they understood that you, it's like they knew that you

couldn't have this pardon issue without Biden's, you know, full knowledge, without his approval for his signature being used. So is it really, so it's like consent. It comes down to whether an awareness and consent. It almost seems like they just said, well, what about this, you know, category? What about this category? Because do you think that Biden really sat in a room? Let me ask you this. There were 4,000 people that had sentences reduced and pardons and clemency and all this.

Do you think that Biden sat in a room, 4,000 names and was giving, you know, giving this oral approval to the, his secretary who managed the auto-opened? And do you think that he did that? No. Do you think that he was aware of all of the offenses of every single one of these individuals? Nope. I don't think he was aware of a lot of things, even less complicated than that. This is pretty wild. And I, it, again, it comes down to, this is a common thing that I'm seeing.

I think this is why so many people are mad with the Epstein stuff, because what it seems to come down to is a two-tiered system. of not just justice, but of law. Like you have one system of laws for some people and another system of laws for everybody else. It just doesn't, this doesn't make sense. I think people are absolutely right to ask questions about this. So the other thing I had a friend that was writing a piece on the legal ramifications of these, uh, these pardons for future behavior.

and my a friend was writing that a president can only pardon a person for past conduct Trump cannot issue a pardon for instance to Elon Musk pardoning for any crimes that he might commit between now in January 19th, 2029 when Trump's term will end. That is, but Biden already did that. Didn't he do that with a ton of his family members? He already did these, you know, these, uh, pardons for like future offenses for his family members. What, Kane? Just tell me. I was just going to say, the one for Hunter seemed to have the,

right actual. But his brother? Yeah. Everything else was out of pen. And then everybody else? Yeah. Like how do you, how do you do that? It really feels like they are stretching the allowances of the law with us.

It really does. And as Steve noted, he claimed he wasn't going to pardon Hunter or Hunter Biden and then he did it. And then he did it anyway, which we all knew that he would. So there's a lot of questions that are here that I think that you're going to have to have legal eagles get involved in. because it just doesn't, that doesn't make sense. To have these preemptive pardons, well, just in case you commit any crimes in the future, here's a preemptive pardon.

The law is less supportive of that. And all of these individuals that have been received clemency or have been pardoned, wow, they had one of the emails at the time saw. And again, it feels like they're trying to trot out this paper trail that to me, when I read this piece, it seemed like his staff were, they were trying to, to establish a paper trail for future avoidance of accusation. For instance, they had Ed Siskel, who is part of Biden's, was part of Biden's White House counsel, who notified senior staff to expect a flood of lobbying for clemency grants

at the administration's end and laid out a process for orderly review. And then he was the one who wrote, well, you know, the president makes the final decision on the final pardon and or commutation slate. Yeah, but it doesn't look like he did. because no part, I mean, if consent is, is withheld, then if there's no consent, there's no pardon. Doesn't matter if you have an auto pen or not. And the Times also apparently can't tell the difference between a pardon and clemency. A full pardon, that's like you're not guilty.

Clemency is you have a reduction in sentences, in your sentence. Both of these, you can have the president pardon or issue, grant or, issue. But man, the idea that Biden knew everybody who was on this final list of people pardoned. I mean, he had pardoned Fauci. He pardoned Millie. He, all of these people. It makes me really questioned some of the people that, you know, that they, Democrats insist, oh, no, they did nothing wrong. Well, then why in the hell are you getting a preemptive pardon? Oh, we don't want any kind of politically motivated criminal investigation. That's, A, that doesn't make any sense. That's what you guys do. but B, I think that that's testing or exceeding rather the limits of the law,

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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States. So they essentially drink, they get their drinking water and they brush their teeth where they poop in the same unit. They bragged that they went above standards supposedly and gave them a three-foot privacy wall that stretches the length inside the 32 detainee cage, a three-foot privacy wall that stretches the length of the three. Oh my gosh. It's so bad that they were not given accommodations at the Ritz or the breakers or any kind of World War of Astoria property. Oh my gosh. That's so bad because they were so used to this boogie kept treatment in New York. And so tough, get T.F.

over it. That's it. That's all I have to say. Because this is what happens. when you enter illegally. You get a posh tour of our prisons, and then you get deported. It's a fun trip. It's like a secondhand vacation. Deported is what it's called. I don't know if you're, you know,

you can stay in one of our amazing Airbnb's. Deported. Deported. Deported. That's correct. Got it. And it's a fancy term for returning the hell home for you, and that's, you know,

maybe we should just, maybe we should advertise it that way. This is glamping. What are you talking about? This is glamping. Did you hear how she put it, though? Like they're brushing their teeth where they poop. I still don't care.

I don't care if they were using an actual turd to brush their teeth. I don't care. Don't enter illegally and you don't have that problem. It's a mystery how this can be prevented, apparently. Because there's a sink next to my toilet. I wash my hands where I poop. So is that supposed to be a bad thing? Like, I mean, isn't that how most prisons,

having never been to prison? I don't know, but isn't that, I mean, at least on television, don't they have just like a toilet in the center of the gen pop little thingy, the little holding cell? The show is asking the tough questions. We are. You know, we really are. We're diving down. It's what we do. Diving down deep.

But, you know, I'm, I'm curious. Like, I mean, isn't that, that's every single crime show that I've ever seen, there's like a sink in a toilet. Like, you got to do your business, like out in front of everybody. It doesn't matter if you a dude or a lady, don't matter. And those photos I saw, those accommodations look great. Yeah, they have air conditioning for crying out loud. I mean, when I covered one of the presidential debates for CNN as a token, and I was in Florida, like in September, I didn't have AC and I was dead.

I was dead to death. It was horrible. I had summer camps that were horrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had AC here. Oh, you have a toilet. Oh, wow. You have a toilet.

Be happy. That you're not having to like, you know, go into a hole in the ground. and bury it. But this idea that you're owed anything more, you're not owed a damn thing except a boot in the backside that serves as momentum to eject you back to your place of origin. That's it. Or as we like to fondly say, deported. Deportead. It's a very fancy, it's the hottest new vacation. I don't know. Maybe advertise it that way. Would you like to be deported? It is a free, all-inclusive trip. Deportead. It's like the village. is it Kenny's house, but South Lake. Or South Park, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So,

I mean, you're not owed anything. You come into the country illegally. I mean, you have to pay for all of that stuff. My gosh. So maybe, I know it's really, really difficult to think about prevention, but if you want to prevent that from happening, from having to, like, brush your teeth by the commode, then maybe don't come in illegally. Don't, don't enter illegally. We got a lot more on the way. coming up, stick with us. Our partners and help bring you the program. Folks over at Angel Studios, there's a lot of, always, we always talk about what the stuff that's coming out of

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Dana. Rosie O'Donnell, she went on Chris Cuomo so recently. She blamed you for the fact that he's overweight, depressed, and drunks. What do you say to that? Do you think TDS is going to ever get a guest in five? I don't know about Rosie. I watch Rosie. I watch Rosie.

She's a mess. She's a mess. But she left our country, which is a good thing, not a bad thing. She made her really mad when he said that. I don't want her to come back. Don't talk about her. Maybe she won't come back. Welcome back to the... What? Yeah. If you say her name, if you go into your bathroom, you close her door. Don't say it. And you stand in front of the mirror. And you say her name three times. Rosie. She'll appear behind you and complain until you die. What happens? It's very real.

Forget Bloody Mary. It's a rudely. Okay, can't say it again. Got to wait until the quota runs out. You got to wait for like an hour. I never understood that, by the way. Sidebar. Welcome back to the show.

Blah, blah, blah, all the good stuff. I have a pressing issue that's very important. How does the Beetle just rule work? Like, you know, can you only ever say it three times or does it expire? That's a good question. Right? because if you said it twice, how long do you have before it resets? Exactly.

No one, I don't know. That was never answered that. Answered? I don't know. I have no clue. Huh. Well, I know someone that could find out, but how weird is that for me to just go, by the way, out of nowhere.

Is there a Beatles' use rule? So anyway, all right, all right, back to professional politics radio. Good to be with you. We're at the top of the second hour on Monday. We've, yeah, no, that was POTUS on, he's just trolling her, and I think it's fine. She's easy to be troll. She's so emotional. Super emotional people are easy to manipulate.

It's so easy to manipulate emotional people. Because you know their currency, right off the bat. Right off the bat. You know what it is. And so she's kind of one of those, right? She's one of those individuals. The POTUS was speaking with the NATO head from the White House earlier. And we're going to cover more of that later on with Stephen Yates.

Here's a big question for you. We're going to completely flip the table here because I know we've got other issues, but I also think that cultural issues are important as well. There is a big dust up right now with the Gaines. Chip and Joanna Gaines. I don't know if you've ever been to Waco, but Waco is basically Magnolia territory. Like right when you get into the town of Waco, everything is about Magnolia. Here are the silos. Silo there. Good to see you. Here's the, it's, I mean, it's Waco, Magnolia. Really, it's just Magnolia. They're probably going to rename it. Who knows? They, it's, I mean, they own the town. Like, they control everything in the town, basically. It's, you know, it's a cute, cutie little town. But they've gotten very, very famous. They had their HGTV show. And they've gone on to go, leave HGTV.

GTV and create their own media entity, which I think has been very successful. And there are a lot of people that are big fans of them. And I've been down, I've taken my mom down there before. And it's, they've, you know, they're very faithful people. They're Christians. They've talked about their faith. And now they're kind of in some hot water. And it's not hot water the way you think it would be. right because they've previously been in trouble because they've been Christians now they're accused of going woke because they feature a same-sex couple in one of their in their new series it's a series called Back to the Frontier on that new network they created magnolia network series premiered on July 10th and they I guess select the couples that are going to be the people that are

going to be on the show. And they, I haven't seen it, the show, but they go to the frontier. That sounds like camping. That's too close to camping to me. And you guys know how I feel about that. Sidebar, if you're unfamiliar with it, we invented the house as a people. I don't like appropriating my ancestors way of living because we have all of these new innovations. And, you know, I mean, I hate modernity, but I love electricity and hot water. So, you know, there we go. So anyway, they have a Texas couple that appear on the show with their two sons. and they're two men. And they're one of the three couples.

They live like 1800s homesteaders. Sidebar again, sorry. There's no social media in the 1800s, so that probably, that's a big selling point for me. Would you like to get away from influencers selling you the exact same stuff that you can find at home goods? Yes, you do.

You want to get rid of, okay, you want to get away from all the white lives? Okay, let's go be homestudders in the 1800s. So they're getting a lot of heat because they featured the same-sex couple in their show as one of these three couples, right? They're getting a lot of heat for it. And to the point where you have the American Family Association that has, Babylon B has said something about it, American Family Association.

There are people that are concerned because they expected the gains to continue to upholding biblical values and make that part of what their work is. and the AFA said, quote, it's sad and disappointing because they've been very influential in the evangelical community. They've stood firm on the sanctity of marriage, et cetera, said they're not sure why they've reversed course. And the comments have been very interesting. They've gotten a lot. They've gotten a lot of heat in the past. I don't know for not having gay couples on their shows.

Like when they were doing their house flipping, like they're, show where they flip the houses. Apparently they had never had like a a gay couple on their show and they were getting heat for that. I don't know if this is to maybe satiate some of those criticisms, but I do think that it poses a problem for them. And here's why. I think it poses a problem for them because first off, I don't, I think that they need to handle it better on social media. Social media is a poor place to mitigate things, number one, especially of this nature, because everybody's immediately defensive because social media by entering it is a defensive place. That's why everybody's miserable. Everybody only wants to show you the pretty curated side of things because everybody's so

judgmental. Social media is where people go, especially Instagram, and they want to either jealously lurk or they want to flex. It's like one of the two. So, it's why I hate social. It's why I'm not as active on Instagram as I used to be because I just can't. It's just, that's a can't. I don't know. But they have been getting a lot of criticism from a lot of, even pretty influential people on the right. I think the problem that they have is when they started their, building their new business, when they started in this industry, they really came out very strongly as a Christian family and a Christian couple. And that's how they promoted themselves. They talked about faith. They talked about family, family values, and their work as, you know, kind of like a mission, basically,

like an extension of like their ministry, so to speak. And they really leaned into that. And that's great. The problem is, is there are certain demographics that when you lean into, you can't compromise it after you lean into it. If you're going to go the evangelical route, if you're going to go the Christian route, you cannot temper it by, including like a same-sex couple because A, that's not your base and it's not your base and B, it looks inconsistent. And authenticity, if there's anything that we've learned with the advent of social media and oversharing is that authenticity is king. People like authenticity. They are

gravitating away from the highly stylized curated stuff and they just want the real thing. They want authenticity. This looks highly inauthentic. It does kind of seem. like they're doing it as a way to maybe insulate themselves against some of the criticisms they have received. And I'm just speculating on my part here because I don't know why they would do it. I mean, there's certain things you can be as loving as you want to. And it has nothing to do with being mean or loving. You know, a lot of Christian people, they think, well, you know, there's multiple different kinds of sin. And one of the reasons that people, you know, try to speak about it is because they love people and they want people to be able to join them in heaven. And that's, you know,

I remember Penn and Teller, I think it was Penn who had said, because he's an atheist. And he had said that he actually, of all of his friends, he loves his Christian friends. And he was saying that, someone asked him if he, if he was ever annoyed that they were trying to like witness to him. And he said, no, I would be mad at them and think they were inauthentic if they didn't. Because they, if they really believe this, and they really believe in this kind of life after death, then why wouldn't you want someone that you care for to take part in that. And so they're reaching out to me so that I can experience that. And he had said that that was, you know, it really, he, he kind of uses that as a basis to determine someone's validity in their belief set. And I think that makes a lot of sense.

And I apply that to this situation as well. And I think that Christians, especially those who have followed the gainses this entire time, they have every, every reason and justification to question, why are you doing this now? It would be one thing if they started and they came out as what am I thinking of? Not agnostic in terms of belief but agnostic in terms of

their content, what they talked about their content and the perspective through which they wanted to show you their content. And they didn't take that route. And that's why it feels like a 180 to so many of their base because now it kind of seems like regardless of where you're at

it kind of seems like they're doing it. It would be like You know, it would be like a gay couple all of a sudden, you know, going back on and going the other way. It just, it's inconsistent. It doesn't make sense, especially if you've built your career on this, right? It would be like that show Queer Eye for the straight guy, just having like all straight stylists or something. You know what I mean? It's just different. Why would you, why would you flip like that with your base?

And I think that this is what a lot of people are asking questions on. And I've never met Chip and Joanna Gaines. I know his sister, and they're the sweetest family. And I don't think that anybody's doing this or having this position or expressing, you know, defense of their position out of meanness or cruelty. But I do think that he's coming across as a little bit too defensive on social media. And you've got to be careful with that because social media does not allow for a lot of nuance. And when you seem overly defensive, you seem hostile.

And you really want to avoid that, especially as it concerns this topic. and what I get from them is they're saying that, you know, this is it's about showing love and it's about, you know, showing, you know, including people showing love or whatever. And this is the defense that he has given in a couple of different tweets. I understand the Christian criticism of it that you don't show love by mainstreaming what the Bible has declared to be a sin. and you don't show love and acceptance by making someone easy in a behavior that goes against the scripture you claim to uphold. And I understand the criticisms that these individuals have. And that's not the media misrepresenting it. And it's not these people misrepresenting their intentions. You cannot create an entire industry based on faith as an extension of your faith and then be

seen as compromising it to the people who help build your business. That's the real problem here. And it does seem like whenever people get to a certain point in success that that tends to happen, it is very, very hard to stand your ground. And there's all different types of ways that people try to use to justify it. But it is a very unpopular thing to say that the Bible says what it says. And that's what the Bible says. If people have a problem with it, they can take it up with God, not the people who are reading the Bible and just simply repeating what it says. It has nothing to do with a feeling of hatred or anything else. Again, you either believe or you don't. You don't get to pick and choose what parts of scripture you want to believe and what

parts of scripture you don't. And everybody falls short, by the way, of perfection. There's no such thing. I mean, that's why, you know, churches are oftentimes viewed as a hospital, so to speak. but I don't know what their motivation for doing this is, but it doesn't look good. And I think they need to find a different way to address it than what they're doing now, because this is going to really hurt them, especially now with younger generations being more conservative and demanding more authenticity and consistency. This is a really bad sign. We got more on the way as we roll towards headlines.

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Well, I'm just going to just go ahead and say, it's a story from New York Post. This is daily showers are pre-shadow. you're purely performative and have no real health benefit. Did a landfill write this? Did an actual physical landfill write this? Like, yeah, what in the world? I don't know. I don't even know.

But they said that, yes, you know, you don't have to take it. They were the experts, whoever these experts are, were trying to say, oh, you don't have to take them every day. You know, you don't, it's not really necessary. You know, maybe, you know, a few times a week. instead you can some say that you could actually spray yourself

with good bacteria that neutralizes your smell making chemicals that sounds disgusting no no I haven't heard of this a hippie who lives in a landfill

wrote that that's I mean that's that's truth being clean guys that's not what it's cracked up to me a gym this is a I think this is a gym in Britain

Of course it is. It's a UK gym. They banned women from the age of 24 from working out during peak times. Like they banned, a 36-year-old woman reported it. Her gym banned women over the age of 24 from working out during peak hours. So the gym from 4 to 7 p.m. Monday through Friday is reserved exclusively for females, age 12 to 24. I have no idea why. Also, just because you go to a gym

doesn't mean every guy wants to hit on you. Get T.F. over yourselves. Not everybody wants to hit on you. And also, if you're doing influencer stuff in the gym and hogging machinery, I would be absolutely one of the people who would bully you about it. Stop it.

I don't know why people are so, like, ridiculous. So she's leaving that gym, by the way. I didn't even know, that's like, it's horrible. Let's see, Superman opened to $123 million. also a flight from London to Cancun landed in the U.S. after a flight after a fight broke out on board. We're all real excited about that. I'm telling you. Sure. We got to tell you what Elmo did over the weekend.

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It's like one of those weird skill sets that you just don't ever need unless Elmo decides to do what Elmo did. I can't even read the tweets that Elmo sent. He has almost, well, I mean over half a million followers. Over the weekend, he began posting some provocative and offensive material. So he said, quote, Emma says, Our Jews should die. That's Jews.

This is really what he tweeted. Donald Trump is not now who's puppy. He's in the Epstein fires. And then he said, Jews can trade the world. And then he just kept saying this over and over again. He clearly was hacked. Are you okay, Kane?

But that's what he did. He, I mean, he, literally tweeted quote, Kall-a-juice. Almost says some odd juice when I say it, but hmm. So,

clearly was, I can't even read, he accused Trump of being a pedophile, basically, and I can't even read some of this. He, and he replied to a number of people using that same language.

So all of the posts and replies, later were deleted. A Sesame Workshop spokesperson confirmed, quote, Elmo's ex-account was compromised today by an unknown hacker who posted the disgusting messages, including anti-Semitic and racist posts. We're working to restore full control of the account. Today's anti-Semitism brought to you by the letter B for Bigot. Wow. So when, I'm just curious. When is Elmo going on Tucker? Sorry, did I say that out loud? Let me rephrase it. Let me rephrase it. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do. When is Elmo going to do a podcast with the Taint Brothers? Shoot, let me try this again. Mm, got to keep. When is Elmo going to run for mayor of New York City?

Oh, there it is. Yeah, I know. See, that's where it's, I mean, I'm sure me and I wouldn't be surprised at that. I liked some of it. But yeah, his account gets hacked. I can't even, like some of this stuff, some of it was like really in the weeds. I don't even know. Like that's a level of anti-Semitism that goes into the weeds that I don't even know. I know. I find it hard to believe that the Elmo account doesn't have two-step authentic, you know,

authentication or any sort of protected. You didn't know that a puppet didn't have two-step. Right. The puppet calling the president a puppet? Yeah, you would think you would have some security measures in place on that account like everyone else does. Yeah, you'd think. You'd think. So I don't know.

They, it looked bad. It looked. I mean, when you have Elmo out there talking about, thank you. J-O-O-O-O-O-S. Yeah, it's kind of bad. You know, I mean, I don't know, maybe, maybe, maybe Elmo will be invited to go and debate my friend Josh. at the next symposium. Oh my gosh.

Just keeps going. Just keeps going. Because it can. I don't know. I'm really actually not surprised. I was just waiting for Sesame Street to go full on. You know. From the river to the sea.

You know, do all. Globalize the infantata. Do all that stuff. Just was waiting for it. Yes. I have a hard time believing it was hacked. And it wasn't some just emotionally and mentally ill leftist that's, you know, near this account or that works directly

with the folks tied to this account. I don't think this is just a hack. I mean, it's Sesame Street. It's weird over there. It's definitely weird. It started getting weird like 20 years ago and it's been like now it's just like it arrived. It's at the, it arrived at the train station of, where are we at? Oh, that's where we are. It's going to run for mayor of New York, though, for sure. I mean, he's going to, almost going to be the new mayor of New York. Like all the people who are supporting, it's ma'am, Danny. They're going to be like, wait a minute, he's more like Hitler than you.

We're going to go for him. I'm just saying. Makes all this. Speaking of that, I saw this, this guy, Omar, how do you say his last name? F-A-T-E-H? Fata? Sounds right. Sounds like Cartman trying to say fatty.

He's running for Minneapolis mayor to raise the minimum wage by over $4, over a few years, freeze rent, and what he describes is Trump-proof the city. Now, I've seen a lot of people who say that he looks just like the guy who was on that ship movie with Tom Cruise, and he was like, I'm the captain now. Where are these, like, hardcore commies coming from? The heads of the millie, like, they're coming out of the woodrick right now, and they all want to run for mayor. everybody wants to run for mayor of some city now audio sound by 22 he is a second generation Somalian Omar Feta he's a socialist here he is announcing his run listen

well he was announcing his run with a second full-time job and a kid on the way everyone keeps asking me Omar why aren't you doing more videos as a state senator with a second full-time job and a kid on the way I just haven't been able to find the time I've also been fighting for you passing things like tuition free college for working class families, ride share protections for our Uber and Lyft drivers,

and the legalization of fentanyl testing scripts. But this summer, you're gonna be seeing a lot more of you. Because we deserve nice things in Minneapolis too. To make an affordable Minneapolis that works for everyone, we need a mayor that works as hard as you do. I'm ready to work hard, two. One, build a Minneapolis that working people can afford to call home.

Two, protect our city from a hostile White House. And three, diversify our city's public safety. What does that mean? Wait, Pause it, pause it, pause, pause, pause, pause. Wait, what did he say decreasing or increasing diversity of their emergency rescue response? What does that mean? Thank you for calling 911.

Are you, press the button to whatever emergency. It corresponds with your current situation. One, if you're in a fire, two, if you're in a flood, three, if you're in a tornado, four, if you're being attacked, mugged, raped, etc. You press a button. And then it asks you. Please select the color of your first responder. Black, white, Asian, just like goes through every ethnicity you can think of. Is that what they're talking about?

Because I don't know what that means. I really don't know what that means. When they say we have to diversify our city's public safety response, what the hell does that even mean? Cain? I mean, with more safety things? Yeah, you would think it means we're going to have a number of different safety responses. That is a smart way of thinking. think I think you're probably not right.

Oh. That's shame. Just saying. I don't know. It's weird, right? I don't get it. They throw that word in their diversity, as though it is a valuable word in all cases.

Yeah. But he's like, we need, what did he say? Free college tuition for working family. So the teachers are going to work for free? Does anyone stop and think what that means? So the teachers are going to work for free? right? All of that you're just going to, what are you going to be when you grow up? I'm just going to be a slave of the state. I'm going to work for free so I can provide free college tuition because otherwise

you're demanding that other people pay for your college education and that's that's welfare and that's not American. So these people have no idea how an economy works. Also, I just, I just, it's making me really reconsider citizenship requirements for elected office, like all of them? You know what I mean? When you come to the United States of America, again, the one thing that the commonality is that shared desire for freedom. And that's what makes someone American. When you come to the United States and you want to be free. It's that shared desire, that animating spirit of liberty, as our founders discussed. It's not a skin color or ethnicity or, you know, religion or anything else. It is the desire to be free. And when people come here and they have a desire to not be free and, in fact, enslave people so that they can have a

quasi-cookie economic Marxist scheme orchestrated in whatever city they want to run. run for office, then that's un-American. That's not part of that animating spirit of liberty. That's blatantly un-American. That's what all I hear from this guy. But, you know, he'll probably win. It's Minneapolis, for crying out loud. I mean, he probably will win. Speaking of lefty places, did you guys hear how Gavin Newsom's, remember the strawberry farmer that he was talking about? He kept saying that all these are strawberries, the strawberry farm that was raided. I didn't know you could smoke strawberries and get high cane? Wait, is it like a special type of like marijuana where it's like a strawberry marijuana?

I don't know. But he was complaining that they're being investigated. He said, you know, kids running from tear gas, et cetera. It's just nothing. But these are these are strawberry farmers. Well, did you know that one of the strawberry farmers that was apprehended? He was sentenced for seven years for kidnapping and attempted. rape and he has been previously convicted for child molestation.

He was literally at a pot farm with 10 kids. I think the oldest one was 14. 10 kids. The oldest being 14. Wow. That's who he's protecting. That's who he's protecting. Like actual literal rape convicted child molesters.

and rapists, like convicted rapists. Wow. The juveniles, the kids that they found, they, not a single one of them had family or parents there. They were all what they called unaccompanied, meaning they had nobody that, you know, came with them. They, that's part of the trafficking thing. This is, by the way, under Obama Biden, when they were, bringing, all these people were coming across the border, they were the ones who instituted the different holding areas for kids and adults. In lieu of stopping the open border, they decided to do this to somehow at least to stage whether or not these kids were with family members or if they were just like being trafficked over by cartels and what they discovered was when they

would get the kids and they would hold them and find out if the adults that they came with were their parents or not, they weren't. by and large, terrifying. That's why you had so many kids that went missing during the Biden Harris era. But that's where all that came from, the kids in cages, all of that came from that era because they had so many people coming across the border. And some of the kids, they were seen repeatedly. And this was something when we were down there, that was something that it actually shocked me that was brought up. They said, yeah, some of these kids come across like, you know, four and five times. I'm like, wait, what? Yeah. And then they go back over the

border. They're sold. These kids are used. They were used as a way to expedite entry and expedite processing because, oh, you have a minor with you. Oh, and then they would be basically abandoned after they would get through and, you know, they were released. So that's what they found here. Not a single one of these kids had a family member or a parent with them. Can you imagine being like an actual kid. And I'm not talking like a 19 year old where they were trying to say, oh, 19 year old kid coming through the United States. No, like actual child. You're in a foreign country. You can't even speak the language. You're brought over against your will. You're used to. And now you're being used for free labor if you're not being prayed a bond that's wow that all happened

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pretty sizable building projects that underwent plumbing and electrical and mechanical inspections. and he signed his name and somebody noticed it and that's how it all kind of kicked off. Just like, why would you, why? Why? It's not something you can just, oh, well, my dad did it. This is not, it's like a family business that you can pick up. You got to go and good heavens, good heavens. Florida man robbed his store dressed as Spider-Man.

That makes sense, you know. I mean, he wasn't content with just wearing the mask. I mean, he had to like go for the whole thing. He showed up to a Win Dixie Wine and Spirits store, and he stole $150 in liquor, $420 in Newport cigarettes. That seems like a lot, but aren't cigarettes expensive? So that's probably like, what, one carton or something? I don't know. Newport?

That is something I've not heard of in a long time. 150 and, how do you still more in cigarettes and liquor? Anyway, he's a repeat offender. I just find it interesting. You dress up with Spider-Man. You steal new ports and liquor. More new ports than liquor. Okay.

All right. There you go. Yeah. All right. A Florida man, if I can pull this up, he was arrested in an Atlantic Beach drug house raid, and he insisted he didn't do anything wrong, you guys. The Atlantic Beach Police Department obtained a search warrant for a house.

They received complaints from the entire community. And guess what they found when they went in? All kinds of meth and other drug paraphernalia. Tons of meth, though. William O'Farrell was arrested along with his roommate, Conley Kirkland. Are they from Ireland? He says, I'm not doing nothing. I'm just trying to survive, he said. So I didn't even know that this was an actual charge. He's charged with maintaining a drug dwelling. And the other guy's charged with possession of all the meth. And he goes, he was asked if he considered that his house was a drug house. And he said, quote, no, I just rent rooms. I need the money for rent.

That's all. What people do is not my business. Well, yeah, it kind of is your business because you're in trouble for it because it's your business. That's sort of how all of that works. We have more in store. We also have Stephen Yates. He's going to be joining us later on coming up in our third hour. Stick with us. These are State Department people that all got fired. Self-fabitage pulling people back from the front lines when we were being making the most. On the front lines, they're brave warriors. ...ascendants, China, and aggressive Russia.

What are we doing, pulling back the people who know how to deal with these tensions in the world? And to those that have been rift, to those that have been fired today, I just want to say, I'm sorry. And you have deserved better than this. I think every single person, when you leave this building, you walk through out those doors for the final time, time, you should do it with honor and dignity. You should not do it out of humiliation and how of this type of weaponization of all. Oh my gosh. Stop it. Better. I can't with these people anymore. I'm so done with it. Welcome back to the program. First off, Dana Lash with you, top of this third hour

Friday or sorry, Monday, third hour, Monday. Sorry, did I trick you? The State Department, they started they were terminating, I think it was like over 1,300 positions. They were trying to trim the size of the federal workforce, right? And this was the reaction. All of these people, do they, Kane? Yeah. Who pays those people? Oh, you and me.

Because it's tax credit. They do not contribute. They may say they pay taxes, but guess what? They pay taxes on money that were originally our tax. Correct. Correct. Yeah. We pay them. They don't add to the tax base. The tax base is supporting them. They said the layoffs are going to affect 1,107 civil servant positions, 246 foreign service officers with assignments in the U.S. employees begin receiving termination notices

and informing them that their positions were being abolished. And that's when you saw that's what this video was. They were tearfully leaving, crying, met by a crowd of clapping, supporters. Some of the people bawling, I mean, it sucks when you lose your job.

I'm sure it's sad. But, you know, you're in the government we got a guy who's in the White House who was like I want to shrink the size of the government as much as I can a lot of people want to shrink the size of government it's too large what did you think was going to happen like nobody read the room I guess they're like I'll just gonna stay here forever maybe if I'm quiet no one will see me it's not really how it works it's not how it works Secretary of State said that the cuts are going to make the diplomatic department more efficient and more focused. He said that, you know, it's a consequence of trying to get rid of people. If you close a bureau,

you don't need those positions. He was saying that they needed, and I do agree, there's just too many damn people that work for the government. It's ridiculous. You do not need, you do not need all of these people. This is so stupid. It's part of this reorganization plan for the department that they provided Congress. It's an 18% reduction in U.S.-based staff. So they're getting all of this, by the way. it's like I was looking at some of the details of the positions. These are just, it's all administrative stuff. It's all administrative. Some of them were tasked with oversight from Afghanistan from Biden Harris. That worked real well with all those people there, didn't it?

I mean, couldn't you tell the difference that there were 11 million people in that department overseeing the drawdown and the very, eventful withdrawal from that, right? It just made a lot of it was real helpful, right? It came to have all those people there. Yeah, I mean, you could definitely tell the difference in service for sure.

They said that the group was upset. They said the layoffs are targeting people from where they happen to have been assigned and that's not reform. yet actually is. I just,

am I supposed to feel sad that my government is shrinking because my tax dollar supported? I don't feel bad. And I've had people send me pretty hateful emails saying that you're callous and cold-hearted for not, it's not my problem. If you're upset because you have a government position

and you didn't read the room and your position's being terminated, you are not going to bully me, the taxpayer, into feeling otherwise. You're just going to piss me off more and make me even more entrenched. That's exactly what happens. I've had email from people like, I listen to your show, but after your callous remarks over government jobs, I just can't anymore. Turns out they were, they literally, one of them literally sent it from a government email.

I'm like, what the hell are you doing at work that you're not working and you're firing off emails to me because you don't like what I'm saying about the size of government? Tough beams. Tough. there's you know there it's not our responsibility to keep you happy in life you know my gosh it i just really get aggravated at this idea that a government worker is somehow like a protected class all on its own and that they are owed from us something it's like me being losing a government job and then like haranguing cane over it like how dare you want to save your tax dollars people are taxed blanking death here, guys. And beyond.

And beyond. Oh, yes, it's a issue that I am forever enraged about. This and guns literally are the two issues that will send me into the stratosphere. So, yeah, not gonna, I, it's, and to be lectured, this is what a reduction in government sees. Be a part of the solution, not the problem. It's pretty simple. So this, I mean, I don't know, it's just very difficult to feel bad about any of this.

We were talking, too, about the couple of other things here. The auto pin, the use of the auto pin, we talked about that in our first hour. But if you haven't, and I'll make sure you get it in the prep, this New York Times piece, where it felt like they were trying to do damage control for potatoes, but it didn't, it ended of making him look worse. I don't know that you can make what he did look better.

He was saying that, oh yes, he made these decisions that were recorded with the auto pen. But then at the same time, they illustrate that he granted his staff the use of his auto pen because he had, quote, granted clemency to so many people, end quote.

Okay, so reconcile that with the headline. Reconcile the text of the story with the headline. Can't do it. you can't literally they had in this he pulled this up he said he had to use the auto pen because there were so many pardons he granted and they actually it's like they were it's he was saying that we're quote we're talking about a whole lot of people it sounds like he doesn't know all of them gain i mean there was quite a bit the only one that he signed with his own hand from December to January was

for Hunter. And then apparently, I guess, the auto pin went to Millie and Fauci. They all had the auto pin. And he had said that when he was talking about why he did it, he was mentioning Trump in this, but he said, quote, everybody knows how vindictive he is so we know what they do. So we knew that they do what they're doing now. And so he wanted to shield his family from large legal bills fighting potential cases. You mean like trying to impeach somebody without literally any evidence and criminal charges. I mean, when you impeach a president, there's, I mean, it's a process that you bring a criminal charge. There was no criminal charges that were brought against Trump. They just impeached him. They tried to use impeachment as a censure. Is what they tried to do, which was

very dangerous that they did that. But this, I don't know, the auto pin, I do not believe that he knew. I don't think that he knew every single one. I don't think that he consented to have every single one of these pardons granted. I absolutely, or any of the clemency issued. I don't believe it at all. I mean, they, there's, they really have no proof of it. I told you that they were sharing emails with each other. The emails were worded in a way that to me, it kind of signaled that they were trying to establish some sort of a paper trail defense in case anyone ever wanted to come back and question the validity of the pardons that he was issuing because they would all say, oh, you know, like the president, you know, he has final say, you know, for all of this stuff.

You know, he's got five for the emperor. Yeah. You know, he's got all the. They're on a dark tide reference. But, yeah, there was, they have some of the emails, like they had one of his chief, one of counsel, Mr. Siskel. They would say that Biden would give consent, like oral consent in these meetings and that his secretary who manages the auto pen was there. And she would hear the consent. And then that's how they did. That's on super official and legit, gang. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And legal.

So that's, and that, which brings it the question of, well, if he didn't consent, how was it a legitimate pardon? I mean, you can't just say yes, use the auto pen. You have to consent to either the clemency pardon, whatever, of this, of a particular individual. You can't just, oh, yes, well, I just consent like, you know, generally. Go ahead. No, you have to, you know, there's a, there's a federal process. Even POTUS has to follow. And I just don't know how indicating verbally in a meeting with no record that yes I want to yes we'll pardon this person however many thousands it was that that's us bro but then it raises the question do you honestly feel that Republicans are going to dive in and look at every single one of these because already

you know the whole Epstein thing you're you were told one thing and now something else is entirely happening that's different right is this going to be another one of those situations are you going to be told to get over it? By the way, telling people to get over it, no matter how much they love you, you can't do that. I don't care if you're... Trump just proved that that's the one thing you can't do. It's tell people to get over an issue that they feel very strongly about. Like the Epstein thing.

That's why so many people are livid on the right. I don't think that like Cash Patel and some of these others, I think that they just kind of walked into this. And there was an established expectation of how this was going to be done. and I think that they don't necessarily agree with it. I also don't think that you should take, you know, certain positions as career building moves. But, you know, at the same time, all of this does come back to Bondi. But Trump has stepped out and said that he doesn't think that Bondi's done anything wrong and everybody needs to move on. And people don't want to move on because it's a two-tier system of justice.

And that's the trend with this, with the auto pin, with, you know, the immigration story. That's the commonality. It is a two-tier system of law and order. And we would never be able to get away with any of this. In fact, these people shouldn't be getting away with any of this, but they're being allowed to because of the positions that they're in. And that's why people feel so strongly about this. It's not as simple as just we'll get over at the guy's dead.

No, people want to know whether or not there are individuals that have engaged in egregious lawbreaking and whether or not they're being protected by the system, the same system that expects them to follow all of these other laws. I mean, you don't want to get these people starting to pick and choose which laws they want to follow, too. And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five. All right. So first stop, this is crazy.

An Arizona man is killed inside of a hyperbaric chamber that caught fire. It was a resort community. Lake Havasu. They said it was, oh, man, I don't want to give details of this. He was in a, oh, he was in a hyperbaric. chamber, 43 years old, and apparently they had a reported emergency. They said he was in a chamber when the burns occurred. There was smoke throughout the building. Apparently they had a flash fire in the chamber with a patient inside, and the patient was pronounced deceased upon. Oh my gosh.

That sounds horrific. Oh my gosh. They're still investigating how this could have happened. also makes me never want to go into one of those now. Why didn't even know that could happen? They're investigating exactly what happened, the circumstances surrounding this incident. But, oh, my gosh. Also, two girls, ages 13 to 14, charged in a swarming attack at a pizza restaurant.

What is the 13 and a 14-year-old doing this? Why is anybody doing this? It was a swarming attack at this pizza restaurant. Police said that, well, they announced the arrest on Friday. They identified another suspect, an 11-year-old boy, but they're not charging him because of his age. And they're still looking for some of the other suspects. It was on July 2nd, and it occurred at a pizza restaurant. And they were called to the restaurant for assault. And apparently all these kids, like, started creating a disturbance.

And one of them jumped over the counter to try to take an item. And that's, it all went sideways. These kids need to be beaten. That's what it was. high bacteria levels have closed more than 30 Massachusetts beaches ahead of the weekend Ugh Why? They said that it's high bacteria levels

35 beaches are going to be closed They said that They have an interactive beach quality Beach water quality dashboard You need that I just feel like I don't want to go there regularly If you need that They update this thing

Routinely Just seems And a bite ravaged backpacker was found alive after two weeks wandering a remote, wandering in the remote bushland. We're running at a time now, but I'll save that one for you tomorrow. Stephen Yates up next. The Dana Show podcast, your fast, funny, and informative news companion for those always on the move. Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts.

We've made a deal today, and I'm going to have Mark speak about it, but we've made a deal today where we are going to be sending. them weapons and they're going to be paying for them. The United States will not be having any payment made. We're not buying it, but we will manufacture it and they're going to be paying for it. Our last meeting of a month ago is very successful in that they agreed to 5 percent, which is more than a trillion dollars a year, so they have a lot of money. And these are wealthy nations.

They have a lot of money, and they want to do it. They feel very strongly about it. And we feel strongly about it, too. But we're in for a lot of money and we just, we don't want to do anymore. And we can. But we make the best, and we're going to be sending the best to NATO. And in some cases, to maybe at Mark's suggestion, if we go to Germany where they're going to send early on missiles and they'll be replaced. And NATO is going to take care of it.

It's going to be coordinated by NATO. And they're going to work very much with Matt Whitaker, who's right here who's a great ambassador. And Matt's going to be coordinated. You better do a good job, Matt. I will. But Matt's going to coordinate. He's a very talented guy. He's going to coordinate everything.

I like he's saying. Well, you better do a good job, Matt. I will. What else are you going to say? Welcome back to the program. Dana, last year with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. POTUS said he's made this deal with NATO, too,

where we're going to be sending weapons to Ukraine through NATO. Is Ukraine paying for those weapons or is NATO paying for those weapons? Because the U.S. is the dominant force in NATO. And we fund two-third of their entirety of their defense. spending. So I've got questions on this. I've got questions on like a million things. We are so lucky in that we have a very generous person who joins us every Monday, our very good friend, Stephen Yates. His, you've got to follow him on X if you don't already at Yates Coms. I follow him and he has all kinds of great insight. He is a foreign policy expert, senior research fellow with the Heritage

Foundation. His particular jam is China, but you know, he covers absolutely everything and he served in not one but two previous presidential administrations. I've got to have to find a way to just like have like a wrestling announcer intro for you. Steven, I think that's what we're going to do. It's good to see you, my friend. I wanted to kind of get your thoughts on this because, you know, I know under Biden and Harris, we talked about how our elected officials were kind of dragging their feet at selling anything to Taiwan, for instance, selling to them.

Like they would be giving their own money to purchase things that we made. This seems a little different from that. I wanted, is that an accurate take? Like, is this? is NATO purchasing these things because we, that means we are purchasing things that we made? Yeah, well, it's a legit question. And you're right that the U.S. is a member of NATO and contributes a lot of money to NATO.

My hunch is that what the president means and his European counterparts would correctly understand is he wants Europe to take care of Europe. And if that's by way of NATO, it means the wealthy European nations are the ones that put up the money, whether they want to give the money to Ukraine and Ukraine makes the purchase, or, and then NATO is the conveyor of this, or, but I think this is really just President Trump's way of working with what sounds for the moment to be a willing year in the leadership of NATO to finally have Europe take care of Europe on this. And you're right also that this would be selling, not giving, which is what we did several years of in the,

European theater with Ukraine. And it would be, I think, a significant shift into the right direction. We've done that in the Middle East by and large, and we've done it in Asia. And now it's time for Europe to do the same. A 50-day kind of extension, I guess it's an extension, a 50-day extension for Russia to finally, I guess, come to a real genuine point in negotiations. Is that possible, though? I mean, they've been dragging it out for however many years. It just seems like it's the same conversations cyclically and nothing ever comes of it. Well, there's good reason to have that impression. I would say that I just live by an ethos that anything is possible. You just never know on any given day. Look at what happened in the first six months of this administration, things that have never

happened before. And even just on any given month, things that had never happened before actually became reality. So I won't put it as an impossibility. But Vladimir Putin so far has proven and deeply resistant to seeking peace. And President Trump has made clear, I want to stop the killing and I want to pursue peace. And I don't know whether Putin's on board for either one of those. But I support the president trying. The alternative is kind of the slow road to nowhere that we were on before.

And at least in this one, whether we've made progress on the ground with regard to Russian Ukraine, we do have more of a burden shift to Europe. So there's been net progress, if not a solution. so far. And at least in that, I would give the administration real credit. Do you believe, for those tuning in, we're talking to our friend Stephen Yates, do you believe some of these hyperbolic headlines that say, kind of switching gears here somewhat, that the reduction in international spending from POTUS is leaving the door

wide open for China to come in and build influence? Are they even capable of actually doing that? Because I would think at this point everyone's sort of seen that the results of their Belt and Road Initiative and their shoddy craftsmanship as a lack of a better way to put it. I don't, I mean, does anybody really going to take China up on any kind as a substitute for that? Well, for the most part, it's sort of a dash of truth and a mountain of hooey to go along with it. Our private sector vastly dwarfs what the government can and should do. And our private sector is everywhere around the world. There is nothing stopping any bleeding heartgiver of all kinds of benefits through non-prime.

to be genuine non-profits rather than money laundering operations like those that hooked up to USAID in the past and actually deliver good help to those in need in other parts of the world, or actually be pro-capitalist and pro-development and giving people a leg up into competitive international markets. So there's a huge part of this that I consider to be kind of the crybaby society that really were just at the welfare trough in Washington. But there is something to the notion, pull back a lot of assistance, at least in the short term, there's going to be projects that shut down and services that aren't going to be rendered. But this is unnecessary change, so I'm not going to worry too much about it. Yeah, that's what I was wondering.

Because I saw this, there was a headline similar to this on the Hill where it said, oh, China's going to be seizing the global advantage and they could become the leader and the main influencer because Trump is, it's a way, I mean, I get it. It's a scare tactic to shame the administration out of making these reductions. It is. It's because there's, there's, there's also an international resistance to seeing the president as being pro-human dignity and pro-worker. And I think both of those are deeply at the foundation of what he's trying to do, whether it's trying to get the American AI stack, the dominant one, which actually represents privacy and free speech and human dignity, whereas the Chinese stack never will.

And the same goes in other realms. And so a lot of international giving and the philanthropy and think tankery, they just aren't willing to see the president what they're trying to do in this regard. And that's just missing, I think, the point of the movement that put him in place. Right. One of the things you noticed, speaking of China, is, and I was pulling this up because you had tweeted about it, the massive amount of fentanyl related, I mean, that basically originated from China. DPSC, 735 million lethal doses of Chinese-made fentanyl under Operation Lone Star. I mean, I think the numbers were it's enough to kill every American twice. This is,

unbelievable. I love the way, and I hadn't thought of it, and I mean, I think of it as asymmetrical warfare, but asymmetrical warfare in the way that Kyle Bass said, it's a CCP waging chemical warfare on the United States. That, I mean, that's a, that is a really straight, no-chaser way of putting it. And it's really true when you think of it in those terms, 735 million lethal doses. That is, in the state we're in right now, that's insane. That's right. That's right. That's That's right. That's just one state, albeit a sizable one, as anyone from Texas will tell you, it's big. But it's still, I mean, it's an astronomical development. I agree with Kyle Bass about it being a chemical weapon assault.

That's one of the reasons why I support designating illicit fentanyl precursors as a weapon of mass destruction. It opens up a series of tools for the president to choose from to use against perpetrators. It doesn't go after people on the street. It goes after those bringing this crap. into our country. And so I think that Kyle is right, it has been painful to just watch this basically angel of death just cruising through American families and communities

with impunity for so long. And I think the people who are most affected are so isolated that there isn't a sense of just how many Americans are being lost. But if you just look at four plus years of this, over 400,000 fatalities, countless others affected by it, either as patients or families and loved ones of those who were lost. I mean, this is an immense wound on the American fabric, and we know who's doing it.

Why haven't, why hasn't the administration classified it as such? It seems like that would be one of the easiest things that they could do. Are they worried about it? Some sort of like international repercussion or what? Yeah, there are a lot of things when you go in the government where there are lawyers at every level and policy deliberations at different levels that talk about the what-ifs and the secondary consequences of things. I think that's very manageable in this particular instance. I think we had the bad example of some things being too broadly defined and applied post-9-11 in a panic, and it took a lot of years to fix some of that.

And people want to avoid repeating, giving too much of a broad brush on this. But to me, I think the slowness on it is partly because the president is trying to negotiate directly with the leader of China on a range of things. He's made clear that fentanyl is a priority in that at the very least. And then there's sort of the how do you implement this question and are there resources to implement it if we make it policy? So I think is what the normal government sort of wonkery is that is slow rolling this. But I'd like to believe that if the president gets whiff of our conversation and others, They'd say, wait a minute. This is exactly what Kyle Bass and that crazy Yates guy have been saying, this is chemical warfare on us. And it should be designated like this. And we should put the tools in place.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it seems like that would be the easiest thing to do, especially because it's so dangerous. And I just think, you know, and I know that there's some action. I think it's in the house right now about, you know, CCP farming, which we talked about last week. But I think of this. And then I just go back to how easy it would be for them to have, you know, smuggled, bunch of stuff into the United States. I mean, anything's possible to the previous administration to have done. I mean, they already had the balloons going through the United States. I guess is a way to test what our reaction would be. You know, they have drone capability. You know, you could, you could, I guess, an aerosol form, fentanyl. I mean, I don't want to give anybody any ideas, but honestly, like, there's a lot to be concerned about with this. And I just feel like

it's not taken seriously enough. I don't either. I do know that people at the top are very motivated when I talk to them, they're sort of like, oh, tell me more because this sounds very important and it sounds like something I'd want to support, tell me more. And I think, well, you know, that's what the staffs are there for. And hopefully they're giving you the added info. You're not waiting for some guy on the street to come in and tell you what you need to know on this. So I hope that they do move on it. And I try to impose a degree of pressure on it. If you wait until after something catastrophic happens, then you have the tsunami of people saying, what do you wish you would have done now that now you're having to catch up on. And I think that designating this as a

weapon of mass destruction is something that would be very easy. And you face harsh criticism if you wait until something terrible happens to take that step. Completely agree. Our good friend Stephen Yates, at Yates comes on X. Go and find them. Always appreciate your insight, my friend. So good to see you. Thank you so much. Have a great rest of your week. Thanks so much, Dana. Take good care. You too. Subscribe to the Dana Show podcast. Because who says you. you can't make fun of people while staying informed on your own personal time. Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcast.

So out of all of the companies that do things wrong and all of the things that they do wrong, every now and then you get one that does it right. Apparently Ford has come out with a new, like an actual positive America-themed ad campaign. This is interesting. Ford Motor Company. They said that they had a new ad campaign and a new incentive program and that they have a pro-America campaign. This was their response to tariffs that outsold Toyota. Interesting. And that's per USA today. They said that it was a moment in time. They said we were thinking, what would it take for Ford Motor Company to shine during this uneasiness in the market for both consumers and automotive?

They're like, well, it's an American company. We make American things with American labor and our market's primary America. and so let's just so now they've outsold the number one retailer Toyota in the second quarter of this year. That's pretty significant. So they ditched all of their previous ad campaign plans and they spent their entire weekend before they launched it with honing their messaging. And it's Ford Motor Company from America for America. And I mean, that's pretty smart. pretty smart thing. So they figured out how to take advantage of this. And I just, you know, that's a way to do it. You know, when you go full America like that and you double down on it, I mean, that's like very appealing to people. It's very appealing. Imagine if we were able to do that with food and the way that like Italy does with food, right? Like no chemicals, no pesticides. You're not, you know, and you're able to come out with all of this like really good produce and good beef and chicken and things like that. what if we started doing that with our wines out in California instead of adding all these sulfites

and all these preservatives to it? Because that's normally when they have a reaction to wine. People are having a reaction to that. And like make American food and drink a great again. Like why can we, why can't we do that? Like, I mean, you see it. It works so well with this other stuff. We need to be able to do that here. I know that there's more things that go along with it than just doing it once you say it. But can you imagine how amazing that would be? Can you imagine if we were able to get like flour here, American flour that doesn't have any of the garbage in it, because I have to get all my, I actually like, by

my flour is from Italy, because I have a reaction to all the stuff that they add to it, to the point where my doctor was like, I think you're gluten sensitive because you're in, you mean, your inflammation, your inflammatory markers are out of control. It's like, no, it's all the chemicals that's in it. Why can we do this too? All right. Before I take up all your time today in stupidity. All right. So it is

Senator Padilla. I think he's from Texas. Would you say his name was? If anybody that speak Spanish knows that by the yeah means a shallow pan or a shallow indention in the ground. Either way, he's very shallow. This is him politically speaking because whenever he opens his mouth, that's what he does. Listen to this. What if I was outside a home depot? Because I like to do some work around the house, not dressed in a suit.

Would I be a target of ICE enforcement under Tom Holman? Probably. And it's just wrong. not just due process rights that have become the concern, but racial... Yeah, he's not the hottest pepper on the plant. No, he's not. Why would it be...

No one's going to be like, oh, look at that guy. He looks... He sounds like a racist. They need you to be emotional about it is the thing. Yeah, and remember, if you're emotional, you can be manipulated. Don't forget that. All right, folks, that does it for us today. Make sure you find us over at Facebook, YouTube,

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