The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Cabinet Chaos: Gaetz, Hegseth, and the GOP Divide

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

Trump selects Matt Gaetz as Attorney General. Dana recaps the history of Gaetz’ House Ethics Investigation and why some Republicans oppose the appointment. Gaetz resigns from his seat in Congress. S...en. Tammy Duckworth trashes Pete Hegseth and quotes him out of context on women in military combat. Disney’s Snow White Actress Rachel Zegler causes controversy with her unhinged election tantrum. Dana breaks down the state of the House and the special elections that will need to happen after Trump’s Cabinet appointments. A religious scholar trashes Pete Hegseth over his tattoos. David Harsanyi from the Washington Examiner joins us to explain “The Rise of BLUEANON: How the Democrats Became a Party of Conspiracy Theorists”. Dexter Taylor AKA Carbon Mike joins us live from Federal prison to explain his unjust New York incarceration over his federally legal firearm hobby, how he got there and how you can help.Please visit our great sponsors:Black Rifle Coffeehttps://blackriflecoffee.com/danaUse code DANA to save 20% on your next order.  Byrnahttps://byrna.com/danaVisit today for 10% off and get the protection you need.  Hillsdalehttps://danaforhillsdale.comTake some time to learn more about what makes Hillsdale College unique.KelTechttps://KelTecWeapons.comInnovation. Performance. Keltec. Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com today.Patriot Mobilehttps://patriotmobile.com/danaGet a free smart phone with promo code FRIDAY.  Limited-time offer, or while supplies last.  PreBornhttps://preborn.com/danaHelp a woman meet her baby for the first time by donating to PreBorn!  To donate securely dial #250 and say keyword BABY or visit Preborn.com/DANA. ReadyWisehttps://readywise.comUse promo code Dana20 to save 20% on any regularly priced item.Relief Factorhttps://relieffactor.comDon’t mask pain, fight it naturally with Relief Factor.  Visit online or call 1-800-4-RELIEF today!Tax Network USAhttps://TNUSA.com/DANADon’t let the IRS control your life—empower yourself with Tax Network USA. Visit TNUSA.com/DANA

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I mean, it's, I would describe it as god tear level trolling to just trigger a full-on China syndrome to own the lives in perpetuity. So I think that's, that was that kind of a funny reaction. This, this, uh, remark from, from, uh, John Federman. This, this, this, this trolling from Federman. is, because he's trolling because he thinks they're trolling is really what it is. And it's,
Starting point is 00:00:41 because we're going to break this down. This is one of the cabinet appointments that took place yesterday. Well, it took place the, was it yesterday a day before yesterday? It was yesterday. And then Gates resigned from his seat
Starting point is 00:00:55 and which I think may have been a little bit premature, but I think that there's a reason as to why they did it. And we're going to break all this down because I got some suspicions. Just let you know, I know some stuff. Like, I know, I know all these cats in D.C. Like, I know all of them. I know every single one of these people. I've met them repeatedly.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I hear about gossip and I kind of like, if it seems ridiculous, then, you know, I always disregard it. But there's a lot. Sometimes in there's smoke, there's fire is all I'm going to say. Don't get mad at me because I have to say this from now on, but don't. But it really is, you know, I want to make sure. the of all the information in hand. So anyway, long story short, we're going to break all that down today. We've got some of the culture stuff. We've got immigration. We've got the latest with the Senate. We also have a couple of guests today that we're going to get into with how blue anon. Yeah, the blue and on, I think is David Harsani's got a book out about that. And it's, it is pretty,
Starting point is 00:01:57 because it's really what the left is now. We're going to get into all of that. And then later on, Dexter Taylor, aka Carbon Mike, joins us. He's going to join us from the jailhouse where he is, sadly, incarcerated because gun laws, New York's gun laws, they decided to get ridiculous and didn't grandfather anything in. So we're going to talk to him, and we've got a whole bunch of stuff to get into. So first and foremost, welcome. Yesterday it came out the attorney general nominee.
Starting point is 00:02:31 The nominee for Attorney General, Trump, Trump put it forward and it was, I think it kind of shocked people, as you could tell from Federman. It was Matt Gates. It is Matt Gates. And then Matt Gates resigned his post. Now, here's, there's a lot of stuff going on with this and let me, let me get into it because there, I have a suspicion. And then there's, you know, you kind of have to know the little, the history a little bit of going back to when Gates was fighting with everybody in the house. And there's a reason why. There's a reason why he was fighting with McCarthy. And because I've, for the people, for the drive-bys who read with pictures, let me spell this out for you really quickly. Um, me talking like this about Kevin
Starting point is 00:03:14 McCarthy doesn't mean that I like Kevin McCarthy. I have disliked Kevin McCarthy since before some of these drive-bys got peach fuzz. So let's not. All right. Number one. So he got into a fight with Kevin McCarthy. Rumoredly, it was because of this ethics. investigation. Now you're like, okay, well, what, what is that entail? What is this ethics investigation? So the ethics investigation with Matt Gates concerned this, well, concerned underage girls and human trafficking is what it, is what it had to do with. I mean, it's not easy to talk about, but that's just the way it is. So the accusation is that he was with some girls that were underage and, And that they had flown on a plane to a different part of the United States, which apparently merits, you know, if you wanted to pursue it, a trafficking charge, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So that's sort of, that's the accusation. And an ethics investigation was opened up into him quite a long time ago, like a really long time ago. So this introduction of Gates is AG, that's where all of this is, that's where all this comes out on, is there was an ethics investigation. Gates wanted McCarthy to shield him from this ethics investigation. McCarthy declined reportedly, and that's where the big fight was. Like they were okay until that happened. That's the rumor mill. I've been hearing this from my people in D.C. for a very long time. And it's not something that generally garners headlines until there's like a filing or a report is released. And interestingly enough, a report is about to be released. That's the other aspect to this.
Starting point is 00:05:12 There people were other Republican Congress members. And not everyone that you dislike or that says something about someone you dislike. as a rhino. There were apparently other reported, there were other Congress members who went on record saying that he was bragging about his sex life and showing videos and all this stuff on the floor. And it's not one or two congressmen that said that, not three or four or five or six. There were a lot of them that apparently came forward.
Starting point is 00:05:45 They, when he was, when the feds investigated and they declined to bring charges, but he was already under a house ethics investigation. the time. And McCarthy, apparently when he was being leaned on to excuse and intervene Gates, that's apparently, according to the rumor, when Gates and McCarthy got real mad at each other. And that's, remember that one fight that broke out on the house floor and they turned it into like the lip reading video? That's apparently what happened. So I don't know. I mean, Andy McCarthy has discussed this as well. He's not, and McCarthy likes Trump. I don't think that
Starting point is 00:06:22 you can say that Andrew McCarthy, who's been on the show before, is like a Trump hater. He really likes Trump, but he's also an attorney and he's very clinical. And he does not agree for that and some other reasons. He just thinks it's less trolling and more reckless is kind of how he came out on it. So whether or not, I don't know, I don't know all of the information that led to the ethics investigation. I only know what I've heard other people talk about and describe videos. I only know what I've heard people say. and what they've told the press because they've done that.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I mean, there's, there's some, there's video of it. So the reason why I bring this up is I, this is my first theory, and this is the one I'm kind of leaning towards. A lot of lawmakers try to wrap themselves in the veneer of really loving Trump as a hedge of protection, which is exactly what Rick Scott did. And some of these other guys tried to do it a little too late. And it just depends on how you do it. because even Vance did it before, but then Vance, you know, apologized and all that other stuff. There's loyalty in submission, and I think some of the latter plays into this.
Starting point is 00:07:28 The reason I'm explaining this to you is to kind of get you into my perspective of what I think is happening here. There's this health ethics report that is going to be released, like what, in the coming days? I don't know if they've got an ETA on it, but it's apparently going to be released. And that's, speculatively, that's one of the reasons why some are saying that he resigned his post so quickly and was looking for this. nomination. There is not a lot of confidence amongst anybody that I've spoken to that he would get nominated. And a recess appointment is very difficult to do, and that has a shelf life. That doesn't mean it gets to last the term. It's very different. We'll talk about that later. But there, the thinking and some of the rumor mill that I was hearing was that Trump doesn't dislike Gates,
Starting point is 00:08:17 but kind of looks at him as a liability. And this is the best way to get rid of him while still having the appearance of standing by him. That's the one way. Or it's just completely not like that at all. I mean, this is the fun stuff of cloak and dagger, is it not? With D.C. politics? I mean, maybe it means, and I feel like Samuel Jackson, who's sitting across from Ringo in Pulp Fiction, maybe it means that Trump means business.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And putting a lawmaker with a very petty streak like Matt Gates in charge at DOJ guarantees of revenge. It guarantees a reckoning. Or maybe Trump is done with Gates and he's sending them out to the wolves while the public picks apart his record and ethics accusations and all this other stuff so that when Gates is rejected and his ambition of seeking higher office ends, then Trump can say that he stood by him and he didn't have to expend any public political capital in order to rectify the situation. I don't know. It could be either of those things. Just saying. I'm going to lay that on the table. It could be either of those things. Now, you can't just fill house seats by appointment. So I've had some people say, oh, well, DeSantis can just fill it. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Senate, you can do it by appointment. House, you've got to go through special election. Special elections, you've got to call for them, which I think he already did. You got a call for them. And then in some instances, it could be months. So you're talking about going in to a new Congress and having these seats unfilled four months, which jeopardizes the majority. Right out of the gate, you've hamstrung the agenda. that's the reality of the situation. There's no other pretty little way to put it. All these people who are like, well, we can just appoint for the house. That's not how this works.
Starting point is 00:09:58 You have to have special elections. New York, hell, they could take six, seven months to do it with Stefani. It could take a long time. Think about how long that is. Y'all, you're talking about going all the way into next year, all the way into summer. Then you're in midterm cycle. What are you going to tell people for midterms when you haven't got a damn thing done because you didn't have the numbers in the house.
Starting point is 00:10:21 And the reason I bring this up is because I really want us to stop taking people from the house. I am nervous about the majority. And people say, well, you know, Gates comes from a solid red district. That's great. That's not the issue. The issue is the time. The time. How long?
Starting point is 00:10:41 It's not an easy do or done thing. There's all this tape that you've got to go through. And it doesn't matter how much you fast track it. There's a reason why they have. have these things set up the way that they do. That's the reality of it. You know, you can avoid it by not taking people out of the house. That's my thing. I just don't think that he's, I don't, I think that for AG, there are a ton of other better options for AG where you don't have to go through all of this. You don't have to start off the new congressional term with drama and you don't have to reduce
Starting point is 00:11:11 your majority. That's my, that's my whole thing. And we've been doing really good with these picks. I have greatly enjoyed, as I'm sure you have, watching the left lose its mind over Pete Heggseth. I mean, that was my dessert last night. I mean, it was just really not. They were going with the tattoos. My gosh, these people have no idea what a crosses. They were losing their minds.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I'm not joking with you guys, no fewer than three articles, where they were dissecting his tattoos. And then they were trying to go back in history. Well, where else have these symbols appear? Well, this is a crusader tattoo. guess he likes the Crusades What? I am not kidding you The Crusaders drink water and wear shoes
Starting point is 00:11:58 They do, the Crusaders cane wore shoes I guess if you like shoes Then you know how that goes Hitler Hitler Hitler drink water, what do you like Hitler? This is so dumb That's all they have Three articles about that today
Starting point is 00:12:12 So I have greatly enjoyed that I don't want to lose that momentum Because I like watching I'm not going to lie to you I don't give a rat's ass about, like, unity and harmony and all that. Nah, I don't care. I'm here. I'm the Joker and I want to watch it burn.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I want to watch the left lose their minds. I want to watch them tear each other apart. I want them to have a political civil war on their little party side so that they can figure out where they're going to go next. I don't want to disrupt that for us, you know? Like, we've worked really hard. I mean, we deserve this. I'm just saying, we deserve all this. It's the Christmas season.
Starting point is 00:12:48 All right. We've got headlines on the way. We're also going to get into the Senate. We've got other cab picks. And then, of course, we've got some immigration headlines as well to get into. Oh, Disney. You know, our partners over at Burn a Gun, B-Y-R-N-A. It's a non-firearm firearm.
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Starting point is 00:14:32 CNN is trying to make light out of something that's trash. They say Americans' debt is growing. But hey, guys, so are the incomes. No, they're not. I mean, depending on what sector you're looking at, especially if it's government jobs, they're doing great. But the average everyday person who's not a government worker, not so much. U.S. household debt moved up for a record total of $1794 trillion. As of, this was back in September, balances grew across all major debt categories, credit cards, auto loans, the biggest gains.
Starting point is 00:15:04 But they said that after tax income has grown. Well, again, look at what sector. delinquencies are still on the rise so why are they trying to like blow this up and act like this is a good thing it's not it is not good heavens builders have 108 000 unsold homes good luck trying to buy one because throwing down for a starter home they say is 45% more expensive than renting a far wider gap than the historical average of just about 15%. I mean when I was we were first starting out back in like 2000, 2001. It was, yeah, it was a lot easier.
Starting point is 00:15:45 It was like a lot more affordable to buy a house. It was better than renting because of equity and everything else. Now you can't really say the same anymore. It's really hard for people. Really hard for people. Oh, this is crazy. A popular pet was served as a delicacy in New York. I don't know what this is.
Starting point is 00:16:03 This is horrible. It's the special Ecuadorian delicacy. It's a guinea pig. And they said, that they're very delicious. And you can go to this restaurant in New York. I'm not giving them free advertising. And it's called,
Starting point is 00:16:16 it's like basically a guinea pig house. Yeah, and you eat guinea pig. Is it like a pig? It's a rat. So I don't know why it would be like a pig. I mean, unless it oinks and, you know, it's got a corksure tail, uh-uh. But importing them into bulk is no,
Starting point is 00:16:34 they said it's no cakewalk. They have to get them flown and frozen from a small farm in Ecuador. and they go, it's difficult because we use a lot. I don't even know what, want to know what that tastes like. Let's see, this, Mark Y, why, why?
Starting point is 00:16:47 Mark Zuckerberg dropped a single with T-Pain. Yeah. It's basically the song, Get Low, and they redid it. And I am not even, I cannot believe he sings the lyrics that he sings.
Starting point is 00:17:07 What? I'm not saying. seen any of this. Moving on. Don't Google it. Don't do it. Don't do that yourself. Don't do it. Don't do it. And then apparently, oh, I got time for one more. Oh, the Onion bought Info Wars. That's a whole other story. Stick with us. We got more in store the Senate next. So when the government theft agency wants to come get its money, because you know, you had a deadline a couple, well, last month is November now, about a month ago. You know, there's consequences if you don't give them your money when they want you to give them your money. They have like
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Starting point is 00:19:02 because anybody that truly knows the military knows that we cannot go to war without over 225,000 women who are serving on active duty right now. A military cannot go to war without our female service members. You know, this is not the Revolutionary War where there's some sort of a line in the sand. And, you know, combat is on one side and the rest of us can stay behind the sign. And that's not combat. I would ask him, you know, where do you think I lost my legs in a bar fight? I'm pretty sure I was in combat when that happened.
Starting point is 00:19:29 This is the problem that I have with Tammy Duckworth and all of these other people who keep saying this in response to Pete Heggseth, who said he doesn't believe that women should be in combat. Did you listen to his words before you decide to rush to cameras to say this nonsense? Did you even bother like extricating head from backside before running to the television cameras and spewing? Did anybody actually listen to what the man said? He specifically then outlined positions in which women are fine in. Helicopter pilots. He literally said pilot.
Starting point is 00:20:03 The hell do you think Tammy Duckworth, she was a pilot. girl he wasn't talking about you why do these people try to make themselves the center of the story so damn bad if you disagree with him with what he said woman the hell up and just disagree
Starting point is 00:20:22 with him without having to do this basic bitch stuff of making things up and putting the words into his mouth do not expect me to be nice about this I loat this as a poor absolute broken down rhetorical trick.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I cannot stand it. I think it's disingenuous, malicious, and self-serving when I see people do this. And you deserve every ounce of the invective coming to you as a result. I'm not Big Bird. I ain't raising your kids, but I am telling people
Starting point is 00:20:54 when they need to get told. She needs to get told over this. To make up something and attribute it to him is malicious and ridiculous. All she had to do would say, well, I disagree with what he said about women in combat. Because he wasn't talking about you. He wasn't talking about being a helicopter pilot. He wasn't talking about any of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:18 He was specifically talking about being on the ground. You know, you're breaking down doors. You're going with a strike team. Come on. Why do people act stupid and pretend otherwise? Oh, because then they would actually have to present to the American public that they might kind of agree with them. And the public might kind of agree with them too, and you can't have that. And I just find it disingenuous, especially for a female member of Congress and a veteran to make up something about a double bronze star reciprocity in combat veteran. You can say whatever you want, but your service doesn't inoculate you from criticism when you make things up, as she just did.
Starting point is 00:22:00 and I'm so tired of the misrepresentation and the lies in politics to this extent. He was very careful with his wording. I watched the interview. He was careful with his wording. But notice how they only want to play like a cut for you and they don't want to get into everything that he said about the issue. Because it was a long interview. I mean, I'm not going to play the whole interview that he gave on this program because it's long. But he was careful in his word choices.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And I know female veterans. I have friends who served. And they said, yeah, he's absolutely right. I have friends who were pilots in the military. And they say, yeah, he's absolutely right. But Duckworth is a Democrat. All these other chicks out there are Democrats. So they've got to go, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And misrepresent what he said so that they can pretend to be victims. I just think you're already losing when you have to, when you get to that point. point. There's nothing that he said that's incorrect. Nothing. And this idea that you have like women deploying in strike teams already and like going down and like it's like, everybody thinks everything's like call of duty, which we were just talking about. Blackop six on break. It's not. Right. It's not. Just wild. Just be honest. If you just disagree with him, then say I disagree with him. If you just don't like him because he's a Republican and he was on Fox, then be honest. but see people are afraid to do that.
Starting point is 00:23:40 This gets done to the psychology of it because they know they're wrong. They know that they're trying to, they don't like him because he was on Fox and they're like trained monkeys. They got to hate Fox. They got to hate Fox. They don't like him because he is a Republican. They don't like him because he was,
Starting point is 00:23:57 oh my gosh, he was nominated by Trump so they don't like him. I'm not even asking them to justify their irrational hatred of the man. I'm just asking them to be honest about it. don't feather up some straw man and pretend that you're so valiant and virtuous by taking a position against that when it's not even true.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I would have much more respect for her if she came out and said, I just, I just like him. I just like him because he's a Republican and because Trump nominated him and because he's on Fox. But they know how stupid that sounds. They can't just come out and say that to you. So they have to come up with a reason. well let's just make one up if he didn't give him one let's just make them up what is there reasoning against him think about this they got mad uh we talked the last segment they've been trying to go at his tattoos so wait a minute military dudes don't get to have tattoos anymore
Starting point is 00:24:55 is there you telling me they got mad because he was on fox but it's okay for them to be on CNN and MSNBC okay uh why else did they why else are they mad I mean come up give me a good a genuine and reason. Are you mad that he got two bronze stars and he fought for his country? Be mad. Be mad. And cope and see. But be honest about it. I just wish that they were honest, but they can't be. Because that's the stupidity of their position. They know how bad it looks if they're honest about it. So they've got to make something up. I mean, it's, this is so frustrating. It really is. It's very frustrating. They're losing their mind. They are losing their minds. Did you see this, for instance?
Starting point is 00:25:41 a white chick. This Rachel Ziegler guy is the most annoying theater kid I've ever seen in my life. I don't like her. She's like, she's ran her mouth enough where I'm pretty sure I don't like her as a person, which is sad. I don't like being like that, but that's the truth of it. She, uh, went into this social media meltdown after the election and she posted all this stuff. She says, I'm speechless. Another four years of hatred, leaning us towards a world I don't want to live in. She doesn't even, she doesn't even have a kid. She's like, it'll be hard raise my daughter in. Okay. A world that'll force her to have a baby she doesn't want. Are you, like, what is your damage? What is, what is wrong with you? They're just going to, what are you saying
Starting point is 00:26:22 the government's going to rape her and make her have a baby? Is that what you're saying? Leaning us towards a world that's fearful. She is not a mother and she just is speaking of a hypothetical daughter that she doesn't have. And then she just kept going on and on. And then she went on and said that she she wants basically bad stuff to happen to people. She hopes Trump supporters never know peace is what she said. And her Twitter and her Instagram rant. Newsflash to Rachel Ziegler. I've noticed that there are not four media outlets that can correctly spell your name in any given time.
Starting point is 00:27:04 No one can tell you anybody else what the hell you've ever been in. So maybe you should have more of a career before you start running your mouth and ruining what you've built now. You don't, you're not Meryl Streep. You don't have a Meryl Streep Foundation to run your mouth on. You don't have a Clint Eastwood body of work to run your mouth on. You haven't proven your capabilities enough that people can say, oh, well, she's nuts about politics, but at least she's a good actress. Because I don't even think that. She's got a film coming out with Disney, Snow White, which she has been a nightmare for.
Starting point is 00:27:40 they've already had to go back. Remember all the stuff that she said previously where she was blasting Prince Charming and she went on this feminist rant and people were like scratching, even moderates were scratching their heads like, why is she doing this? Is she wanting this movie to fail? And then she says, I hope they never know peace. She says, may Trump supporters and Trump himself never know peace is what she said on Instagram. Maybe she feels like that in her life. I kind of get the sense that she feels like her career is stalling out and she's got to do this political stuff to claw more attention. And at the same time, it's one bird or two birds, one stone. She can claw for more attention by saying stupid political stuff while also taking out her
Starting point is 00:28:26 rage against people because she's mad that her career is stalling because I don't know what the hell she's been in, do you? She was in that West Side Story remake and she was the worst part of it. And then what this? I don't know what else she's been in. There are other actresses her age that are doing laps around her in terms of work and accolades. And all she's doing is bitching on Instagram and saying this kind of stuff. I mean, maybe you should focus on your movie. You know, that because right as it is right now,
Starting point is 00:28:55 they already had to take it back because that that's the Snow White film that got into a lot of trouble with the little people, the dwarves, Snow White and the seven dwarves because the king little person, a guy played Tyrion Lanister. What's his name? He's the king of all little people apparently, which made all the other little people actors very upset because he acted like he was the valedictorian of all of them and the union president of all of them. And he went out and said, oh my gosh, can you believe that they have, you know, a little like dwarves in a movie? I mean, it was called Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, but whatever. I mean, I guess it should have been, you know, Snow White and the, you know, seven ambiguously gendered hobos. I don't know. Like,
Starting point is 00:29:38 whatever. So this movie has just like run into controversy after controversy after controversy after controversy. It is really annoying. At least what's her face? Jenna Ortega doesn't go this hard. Jenna Ortega at least knows when to like to shut up to not burn her audience. This chick doesn't. I think she wants to be Jenna Ortega. I don't know. I just can't stand this stuff. Somebody in her management needs to tell her it's not a wise career move to do things like this. They fired Gina Carrano for less. Gina Carano said something entirely accurate on Instagram about fascism and Disney lost their mind. All the woke scolds lost their mind and they fired her. This chick is literally wishing harm on Trump supporters and it's crickets. Crickets. Now that's pretty unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:30:39 So you tell me who's the bigot. Good grief. I don't know. These people are damaged. They're just damaged. I don't know. Now, a few other things I wanted to touch on as well. This is like completely,
Starting point is 00:30:54 well, maybe I should get into this later because it has to do with, have you seen these, I've noticed an increase in this. Have you seen an increase in articles where it says, don't go here because the locals don't want you if you're a tourist? don't go here because locals don't want you. And I saw this thing about like Venice where they were saying, oh, the Venetians there.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I mean, there's like 10 people that live. I'm exaggerating slightly. I mean, it's a town that's entirely built on tourism now. I mean, unless you're telling me that the Marano glass, which is beautiful, is like their entire export, I don't think so. So they are giving like these, like it bubbled up in Spain because there were a number of people in Spain,
Starting point is 00:31:35 like in Barcelona and in other towns. that were essentially protesting against tourists. And other places now, Fordores came out with their travel, go, and no lists. And they're saying, well, tourist spots are collapsing under the burden of their own prominence and how some of the locals in some of these areas are telling people to stay out.
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Starting point is 00:33:26 Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States. Hey guys. So today I finally did something I've been meaning to do for a while. Did she literally make a video about this and put music to it? And the reason for doing it, and kissing goodbye, my 1.9 million followers over there, is because I hadn't been posting for a long time. I just didn't want to contribute content once it was purchased by its present owner. But just having it there, I was only holding on to it because I really didn't want someone trying to take over that name and using it
Starting point is 00:34:07 for nefarious purposes. I was a little bit worried about that. And also every so often I would use it to just like sort of look at news that was trending and what's happening. And I was just sort of use it as like an aggregator. But I just realized that's not really worth it. Because in order to like do the news aggregation and just look at all, you have to wade through a lot of drek and a lot of just abuse and a lot of just negativity. And it's just not worth it. No one cares. Like this is, you know, as we said yesterday, this is not an airport. You don't have to announce the departures. Nobody cares. These people who think that being without their contributions on X or on social media or they think that that's like a big. That actually makes me like it more. It means it's going to be a better place, I think. I just don't want to contribute content.
Starting point is 00:34:53 You're not contributing content. All it is is just whining. You're part of the drug. That's all you contribute. I mean, she's one of the meanest, most bigoted people that is in media today. So I don't see this as a loss. All these people that do this, what is it, Don Lemon? He released a statement with a picture of himself at the bottom of it.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I know Don. Come on. Dude, that's so goofy. I mean, it just is so self-aggrandizing. That's the last thing that Democrats need to be doing right now. They need to be taking inventory of where all they got it wrong. It's just, it's funny. I don't know. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And there were a few of them that, did Mark Campbell leave X? I don't remember. Somebody, there were a few others that left too. Okay, bye. Don't let the door hit you with a good Lord split you. Ain't gonna, I ain't gonna be shed no tears. I don't care. I just don't care.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Is he there? Okay. I don't know. It's just goofy. These people that have to announce this stuff. I just, you know, after it was purchased, the problem is, is they didn't want to be confronted with dissent. They are very uncomfortable when challenged. They take it as a personal affront. Sometimes I think, are they just lazy and they don't want to have to do the work of defending their position?
Starting point is 00:36:24 Or is it more than that? And I think with some of these people, it's more than that. They have a God complex. They view themselves as being so self-important that when you challenge them, it's a it is it you're offending them it's you might as well slap them to challenge them on an issue the right better not get like this i'm telling you i know that the left is trying to pull everybody over into its cesspit of ridiculousness but let's not follow now coming up blue anon because that's all playing into this as well we're going to get into all of this and more and then
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Starting point is 00:38:30 friend David Harsani about Blu and On, because it's a real thing. And the latest, though, let's get into some of the latest here with the Senate and the cabinet, because now we've got House, Senate, and White House. And I was talking a little bit last segment about my concern, about pulling too much from the House. A lot of people think that if you're, pulling too many from the house for appointments that you can just appoint someone. That's not how that works. To recap, you have to have a special election. And that can take months and months depending on where. So you're looking at going into the new year, a new Congress, and you might be going all the way to summer before you get to special elections, maybe all the way to next
Starting point is 00:39:10 fall. It all depends. Everybody's, every state's different. Why would you want to immediately kneecap the administration like that? Especially when there are tons of other options that exist outside of our very narrow majority in the house. So that's incredibly important. A few things. The, I've been really enjoying everything that I've read about
Starting point is 00:39:35 all the people freaking out of Pete Heck Seth. I think it's great because he's a really solid pick. There have been really good picks. There's some picks that I'm like, I don't understand the Christie no one. Tulsi Gabbard over at as a director of national intelligence. Well, she was on the Tara White.
Starting point is 00:39:51 list. So I'm hoping that that gives her a little bit of empathy towards innocent Americans being targeted by their government. I got a lot of questions still about some of her other positions, but the, like for instance, because she was hardcore supportive of gun control, because I've got tweets and video and all of that. And I don't think she's ever explained it. But that isn't really required for Director of National Intelligence unless she starts targeting people for supporting Second Amendment. So maybe that plays to her particular skill set in that role. And like I said, we've tried to get around before, but she absolutely refuses to talk to me.
Starting point is 00:40:29 So I don't know. But anyway, maybe that will work for her particular skill set. And I think every other appointment works with that individual skill set. The norm I don't get because I don't, for Department of Homeland Security, because I just feel like Tom Holman would be a much better, you know, he's the borders are. feel like, and that falls under DHS, I just don't under, Tom Homan's clearly the person to do it. So I don't understand the Noam appointment. But the only one that I was kind of questioning was the Gates thing because I knew that that House, that House ethics investigation was going to make the confirmation super choppy.
Starting point is 00:41:08 But as we talked about last hour, you can revisit that. I have some theories. Now, looking at the House, we're going to have special elections for the House, because Gates already resigned his seat. Don't know how that's going to work out. I don't know how quickly that will happen. And you don't want to be outmaneuvered by the left when you have a reduced majority. So that's the thing. And the Senate, and one of my friends, Daniel Horowitz, I made a really good suggestion. And I think that this is true. Because he says, he's talking about all of these senators from all of these red states, right? This is one of the reasons why we keep getting in this position of having the same
Starting point is 00:41:41 swamp rats over and over again to consider for these leadership positions, right? So for instance, You know, there are a lot who are coming up for 2026, right, in midterms. And this is the time now that you start getting ready for those midterms and upgrade these seats to people who are more constitutional, right? More constitutionally minded fiscally conservative candidates, right? And so there's a lot of focus on this Florida Senate seat. and I have no idea why we're not looking at primaring some of these others, like Tom Tillis up in North Carolina, right? There was a movement they came out for Lara Trump to be appointed in that seat.
Starting point is 00:42:27 And I like Lara Trump. I've met her. I know her. But I think that this is no. No, absolutely not. And not a knock against her at all. I mean, I shouldn't really have to say that it should be kind of understandable, but not a knock against her.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It just doesn't make sense, especially when, you want to be able to have a strong, uh, strong constitutionalist that understands the parliamentary procedures of the Senate. And with that particular appointment, you can really go hardcore for somebody like a Mike Lee in Florida. And they, there are,
Starting point is 00:43:03 I think with Meyer is one of them. There, there are those picks that exist there. But the other thing is she just got RNC chair. And we can't appoint her to every single, you're going to appoint her to R&C. seat here and the Senate? Are you going to appoint her to a cabinet position? I mean, come on. It gets a little dynastic. And I also think, with all due respect, they just moved to Florida.
Starting point is 00:43:23 They've only, they've been there a couple of years. Floridians are very particular, which I've learned about their voting. They like people who have a history in the state and that have ties to the area. So, and that makes sense. And I get that. I'm not against anybody like Larry Trump ever running for office. But if she really wants to be in office, why not take her to Gates district and run her in a special election in that seat then. Or her home state of North Carolina, primary, the rhino senator up there, where you could use all of the pressure from all those online influencers and you could flip that seat. Well, not flip it. It's a Republican, but you could make it, you know, you could have her be installed in that seat. But we can't just like hand out
Starting point is 00:44:04 appointments to Senate, you know, like it's Mardi Gras beads. I don't want to have like a Harris esk moment here where we're just handing and pointing things out over and over again. And I think that's a really fair assessment, especially considering how our country was founded. You know, we wanted people to demonstrate their merit for certain things and not just have like King George put the edict down from on high. Okay. So this is kind of how I look at it. And I think, you know, and if she, and she just barely got in the RNC. Let her, let her flesh that out a little bit. So she could run for Gates's seat special election or again go to North Carolina and do that seat up there but look at some of these other there I mean there's some other people that we could really uh seats that we
Starting point is 00:44:50 could really make more conservative like I know that there's been some criticism of you know obviously Tom Tillis in North Carolina and that's where Lara Trump could go and challenge Tom Tillis and she's North Carolina's her state she could do it and you could use the pressure there you got John Corny in Texas I mean good heavens Bill Cassidy out in Louisiana There's a number of others that have been a little disappointing in their votes. And I think that there's a lot that could be done to change that. You cannot, though, it's so weird to target just one Florida seat when there are all of these other seats that are prime. So that's kind of how I'm looking at it.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Everybody always struggles with these rhinos and primaries. And as my friend Daniel says, because, you know, they lack. The challengers often are new. they are going up against the machine of the rhino they're going up against name ID and money so if you have her challenged tillis in north carolina that's an easy pickup uh but that's her home state but floridians i think you need to be there a little more than a couple of years and you just got nominated for rnc chair we can't i don't think that you can consolidate all these different positions under her that's so we need to be or she could run for like i said gates a seat special election in the house. So those are some options. But there are a lot of seats out there that we really need to start thinking about and some primaries that we get to start thinking about here in 2026. Because I guarantee you to, depending on how these other appointments come out, there are going to be some rhinos that are going to be looking to try to shore up their numbers
Starting point is 00:46:32 in the Senate and in the House. So we've got to be really aware of that. Be very, very aware of that. Now, in the meantime, one of the cabinet picks, Pete Higgseth, I got to share this piece, because I saw, who is this guy? This is, he's like a professor somewhere. He's like a totally annoying professor. Matthew D. Taylor. I don't even know where he's from. He is, oh, some scholar in Baltimore. Scholar in Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:47:03 That's all I know. It's so dumb. and he went on this Twitter thread about Pete Hegeseth's tattoos. And he was going on and on. And he said that he was talking about his tattoos and his Christian faith. And he was getting into Christian nationalism. And he was saying that his, I guess his tattoos, I guess, were somehow like, I guess, evidence of Christian nationalism or whatever. and then he got mad because he had,
Starting point is 00:47:43 and I don't know if he deleted this or not, because I was pulling this up. He was very upset in that he had tweeted that one of the, he was talking about the books that he had said he'd read, and he was just like getting into all of it. And he said that he has a far right Christian Zionist fantasy. He was talking about the Temple of the Mount and things like that. He had, for some reason, it just does not want to pull up for the life of me.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I think he deleted this tweet. but he was saying that he was talking about temple mount and how you know you have a mosque on temple mount now and he was saying that uh you know he seems to be very anti-muslim and he uh gets involved in this like a christian Zionist fantasy with us etc etc and uh thinks that these things can just be removed these that these holy sites can be removed can i just like what what did the what was under the temple mount again? Can you remind us what that was originally?
Starting point is 00:48:45 He says that a far right Christian Zionist fantasy that Muslim holy sites can be removed and he's like oh the reestablishment of the temple on the temple mount he was saying that there's no reason why the miracle of the reestablishment of the temple on the temple mountain is not possible so there was a holy site already there
Starting point is 00:49:01 and then other people came and put a site on that site the latter wasn't wrong but saying otherwise is? Right. That doesn't make sense. That's what this guy's using to go after a Heg Seth about.
Starting point is 00:49:20 He's trying to cast him as like this zealot. And he says, well, he says that the idea that someone could raise the third holiest site in Islam, Dome of the Rock, to build the third Jewish temple, is a
Starting point is 00:49:36 wild scheme. And he talks about how it's crazy and that how it is fueled by hate from people and that this is, you know, his wild, this is Hegset's wild theology and what influences him. I mean, you do realize that long before Muslims were around, that was a Jewish holy site, right? So there's no anger for a mosque being established on it. but so you think you can't raise a whole but they raised a holy site to put a mosque on it. And guess what? No one attacked them.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah. I mean, don't even get me started about the, uh, Hagas Sophia. Don't, don't give me. I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:26 I'm just saying. So where, why is it a very situational outrage? Like he's trying to make Pete Heggseth out to be this Christian like nut job. He has. has like a 20-some-odd Twitter thread. And it's gotten hundreds of retweets already, thousands of views.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And he's trying to make him seem like this Christian nut job while he's slaming him for, can you believe that he thought that you could just like put a different holy site on this holy site? That holy site went on a holy site. What are you talking about? That's like the people who are like, this is stolen land whenever they talk about Rushmore.
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Starting point is 00:52:49 It's time for Dana's Quick 5. So they discovered an alligator in Michigan? Quite the circumstances, too. It was during a drug bust. It's even weirder and weirder. So they discovered this. alligator by Michigan State Police and apparently it had to do
Starting point is 00:53:13 it was like some drug bust I just I'm just because it's not that's not something that you're going to be able I mean it's cold up there it's not like there's any like tributaries or anything that they can swim I'm just made of questions right now honestly so this gator
Starting point is 00:53:29 hold of it just froze I'm going to pull this back up so this alligator that they found who was starting to drug bust they did take it fish and wild like took it into custody obviously but it was it was in a home they executed a search warrant and they found an alligator living there in the house. Okay. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Like, just randomly, did they thought, we're drug dealers now. Might as well have, like, every drug dealer is a weird pet. We're going to have a gator. A junkyard gator. Yeah, a junkyard gator. You know what? Sidebar. Junkyard gators, that's a southern fried cover band that mostly covers Leonard Skinner,
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Starting point is 00:54:22 Yeah, it actually may not be the big health booster that people, it doesn't really improve your heart health, and it can actually increase the risk of circulatory issues. Like, what did you think that you could just stand at your desk and wouldn't have to change anything else in your lifestyle, and that's going to solve everything? No. LED lights on the underside of surfboards could actually deter great white sharks. This was actually fascinating. And it's also the way in which they pattern the LED lights on because sharks, I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:48 despite the fact that they're apex predators, they have very, very bad eyesight. So they notice the silhouette of something. So if the silhouette looks like the shark's version of a sandwich, you know, they're all wanting that. But if you put LED lights and if you do it like in a striped pattern, like not a uniform stripe pattern, but that actually disrupts. further how they view that silhouette. And so they're looking at implementing that so like surfers don't get Aida.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Interesting. Coming up, David Harsani, who is with the Washington Examiner, he's got a book out Blue and on. We're going to talk to him about kind of the left's. Also, the left has it. They haven't learned anything, but AOCK noted did just take the she, her pronouns out of her ex
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Starting point is 00:56:50 I didn't know she had them on there anyway. I don't really look at her bio, but apparently everyone was noticing that they were gone. I don't know if that's a realization that the left is having or not. That are maybe they catching on? I'm not quite sure. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. You can listen coast to coast.
Starting point is 00:57:05 you can find us digitally as well as terrestrially channel 347 as well direct tv this is kind of i think goes into what i was going to talk about with my guest today uh david harsani who is a senior writer over at dc examiner he's got a new book out which is a pretty dystopian cover the rise of blue and on and uh i love that phrase because he says in this book this is how the democrats became a party of conspiracy theorists they've always kind of been but it's now like on as of late. And when you think to everything that they said over this election period, like you're, we're all, like they're going to put us all back in chains or whatever that first they were going to kill us with health care back when Paul Ryan ran. They've always run these conspiracy theories as a substitute for policy. And now look where they are. Are they going to stop now? Is this AOC like pronoun changing maybe like the first sign? Am I being, am I doing hopefulness wrong? I'm a cynic. So I don't know. David now joins us via Skype. David, good to see you. I just real quick, what do you make of that? I mean, because that's really, I feel like this last election is sort of the culmination of all the conspiracy theories that the left has tried
Starting point is 00:58:14 to sell us for decades now. I mean, you go all the way back to the Bush years and before in this book. What do you think about this? It does seem like maybe the fever broke a little bit just because it was so, because Trump won so handily, I think that maybe they're just regrouping and thinking about new ways to approach this. Once you call it. someone Hitler and you say that they're fascists, you really have no place to go. There's no up from that, right? You can ratchet to 11. That is it. And so maybe they're rethinking it. I suspect we're going to go back to things as usual pretty soon, though. Yeah, I was thinking about that when I saw
Starting point is 00:58:50 Trump in the White House and the Oval Office there with Biden. And I'm like, wow, that's like, Hitler's getting a real good reception there. They got a roaring fire. I mean, it looks like they got snacks and drinks. I mean, you know, that's just really not really how you would entertain the guy that you said was an existential threat to democracy. No, not at all. And, you know, there are cynical people who spread those things, but I don't think, you know, Biden really believe that. But then there are a lot of credulous voters, sorry to say, who do believe stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:59:18 They're the person who might pick up a gun and try to kill, you know, Donald Trump or, you know, doesn't want to have Thanksgiving with their aunt or whatever. So, yeah, it's a really destructive way to talk about politics. I, it seems, we're in such a weird time. Because we have, you know, if you want to know anything, you can look it up. If you want to know about the history of the people who lived in Pompeii, you can Google it really quickly. If you want to, you know, read about, I mean, whatever it is, you can find, you know, how to videos, you can, you know, all the encyclopedic knowledge you can get at your fingertips. But yet, we have the left telling us, well, you're all going to be in handmaid's costumes.
Starting point is 00:59:59 And you're going to be in jail and we're going to be in World War III. and not to, you know, just not to skip over all the science is real stuff that they had with the COVID and everything else. I'm just, where do we go from here? Because as you said, you can't go past that. People aren't stupid. They, they can look things up. They can determine what is true and what isn't. I don't know how you can reconcile or how Democrats reconcile, mostly intelligent. You know, there's some dumb people out there, but we got an intelligent electorate and then what they've been selling. I don't know. I don't know. know how they go forward as an entity or ideology after last week. Well, I mean, for a lot of people, this is a bigger topic maybe, but for a lot of people, I think they've lost faith or real faith or religion and they've replaced it with politics and ideology.
Starting point is 01:00:51 So there's a kind of blind faith connected to this kind of the way that they speak. So you're right. Some people don't believe it. It's not a good way forward because it doesn't work. But there is still a, like, think about all the people who left Twitter, went to Blue Sky or whatever it's called. They want to be more siloed than they were before. Like they don't even want to hear an argument.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Think about this. Was there a single real debate over policy this last election? I don't think so. And what they do, I start the book this way. I talk about how no one debates me anymore. They just call me a Russian dupe or bought by NRA or there's some shady group that's controlling me. I'm too stupid to, or too evil.
Starting point is 01:01:31 care otherwise, right? So that's a shortcut they started taking mostly in the 2000s, I think, and then it just envelop them. That's all they do now. They do not debate. They play the man. They don't play the issue anymore. So you're playing suicidal tendencies. You know, where Gen Xers, maybe we're a little cynical about that stuff, but, you know, so I'm pretty cynical about the future in that way. All we wanted was a Pepsi, man. That's all we we wanted. That's all, you know, come on. Just talking with David Harsani, his new book, The Rise of blew and on how the Democrats became a party of conspiracy theorists. I think one of the worst conspiracy things that I ever saw floated, I mean, and this is just of our general lifetime,
Starting point is 01:02:10 was this Russian collusion thing. And then the laptop cover up. This is the craziest stuff that I've ever seen. And I don't know, we're already cynics. I mean, we were raised on Hosewater. I mean, we're the people who's like, we were left into the woods and in the neighborhoods our own devices all day long. So, you know, I think we're like made a pretty tough stuff. And I see, what was it, 51 or 52 intelligence experts that signed this letter to say that this laptop is, this is all Russian collusion, disinformation, et cetera. How do you read, I mean, they did more than just peddle conspiracy theories. They peddle distrust of our nation's institutions that might be irrevocable.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Yeah, COVID, I think finally destroyed that. But I'm happy brought up Russia collusion. It's the most successful political conspiracy theory in history. Nothing, none has had more of an effect on certainly our lives. we were completely, that's all we talked about for three years. It was completely made up. And what happens, and it's a good example of how the left's conspiracy theories are far more dangerous than the right.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Like Alex Jones, whatever, he's out there and he has fans, no doubt. But on the left, they take it, they launder it through media, they polish it up, they calibrate it to be plausible, they get experts, you know, who are just partisans to come in and say it's true. And a lot of people think that the bigger conspiracy theory is, the easier it is to bunk, but it's the opposite, especially when you have institutions behind it. So when they tell you something, we used to trust the former CIA director. You wouldn't think he would just make something up, right? Or even the New York Times, you wouldn't believe that they would just make something up.
Starting point is 01:03:41 That's not bias. It's something much worse. So I think it was super successful. It hamstrung the administration that could barely do anything. And no one, there was no reckoning. No one lost their job. they just went on. They did the Hunter laptop stuff. They hid Biden's, you know, decline, his security and his physical decline. And, you know, these are the same people are still there. So that's why I'm skeptical that things are going to change in the long run. I love that we were to believe that we were all going to be, you know, basically spite on and treated horribly by Republicans.
Starting point is 01:04:17 But yet we were expected to believe that Joe Biden was completely fine, especially after watching him try to walk on the beach the other day. and Jill would not even extend an arm. Like what a horrible woman you are, not even to help your husband. Talking with David Harsani. This, this, I, I'm amazed at how also this is really driven the tribalism of the left. And I don't want the right to get tribal in response to the left's tribalism
Starting point is 01:04:45 because that's the thing with these conspiracy theories. And I try to be very, I'm trying to be very careful of it. And I'm not inclined to be careful. I'm trying to be. But how does this pan out? I mean, where do you see, what do you see happening from here? Because, and I'm, I'm, maybe I've asked you this in somewhere or another, like just,
Starting point is 01:05:05 you know, a couple minutes ago. But, I mean, I'm reading your book and it goes all the way back. You go all the way back to like the Bush years and Bush was, you know, when it was Bush Hitler. And they would burn in effigies of him in the streets. I would crash protests and I would see them doing this. And it was wild. where I mean where do we go from here do we can we go back to a nation of reason where we actually have debates on reasonable things or do we just get more siloed and tribal think more tribal I mean
Starting point is 01:05:33 it's not what I was looking for David it's going to be great going to be great no um here's what worries me you know I you know think about what Democrats so think of in 2017 Donald Trump wanted to get rid of the filibuster McColl and said no whatever that is what it is but imagine if they had gotten rid of it, if Democrats could get rid of it, what would they have done? They would have passed one huge overwhelming national, you know, anti-gun legislation, anti-speech legislation, you know, electoral, you know, election legislation. And they would have packed the Supreme Court and they would have destroyed the Constitution. I just believe that that progressives hate the Constitution. They're not pro- First Amendment. They're not pro-Second, not four-fifth,
Starting point is 01:06:14 10th, forget it. So just because Republicans win now, if there's not a culture change, when Democrats come back and they will, it always happens, they're going to do things that are going to be irreparable. So we used to in the past, I believe, share some common values. We disagreed on a lot of stuff, but everyone believed in the First Amendment, say, do you think that that's the case anymore? I don't. I mean, New York Times has a piece like every week about how the Constitution is getting in the way of democracy and stuff like that. So that's what really worries me, you know, that sort of thing. And it is driven by paranoia.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Just a quick thing, you know, think about voter suppression or, you know, the idea that police are hunting black men. These are lies. These are paranoiac lies that a lot of people believe it's easier to vote than ever. And yet people walk around thinking that their agency has been taken from them, right? And if people believe that, they're going to, it's going to be difficult for them to live with other people they think are doing it to them. You know what I mean? So I don't know. And it hasn't helped that you've had.
Starting point is 01:07:11 you know, legacy press for so long, controlled by one ideology. I mean, they kept saying that with Georgia's new voter law, that it was, nobody was going to go out and vote. It was, uh, not Jim Crow, Jim Eagle. Jim. Yeah. Jim Eagle. That's what Biden called it. But then they had a record number of people who came out to vote in Georgia. So then you have the presence of social media and Elon Musk taking X, but X can't do it all by itself or can it? No, but it is important. I think people shouldn't underestimate how important it is to like social media in one way is just nefarious, right? You have such bad. have people on there. Right? I mean, just ugliness and all that. But on the other hand, you know, I hear a lot of young people say that it's worse than ever. No, I grew up with three
Starting point is 01:07:51 television stations and they were controlled by gatekeepers and there was no way to fight back, no way to debunk what they were saying, no way to have our own conversations. Now you can do that. And that's important. So we shouldn't forget that either. So I think must buying Twitter was huge because it's the biggest, the most, I think, influential platform there is. So do you I think that that's going to maybe spark, like, because I know Zuckerberg, he seems to the left, but not like an ideological zeal. Like, at least that they boxed out China and they wouldn't allow Facebook to go into China. So China had to get their own thing. And there's certain things that they, I've been surprised at how Facebook has handled certain issues, although the suppression still exists. I think that's the lower level staff. But do you think it's going to, going to inspire some of these other, you know, tech companies or tech execs or future, you know, any kind of. technological advancement in terms of social communication. Are they going to be more middle road because they, I mean, everybody wants to be praised and Musk has gotten a lot of praise.
Starting point is 01:08:51 That's an attractive incentive. That's right. Yeah. Thanks for letting me be positive. I actually have something positive to say here. Look at that. I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to be.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I think that that is one of, that is a positive that there has been, it's more acceptable or people are braver now in supporting Trump or supporting. or supporting ideas that maybe leftists don't like, you know, on higher levels, like other, like tech bros or whoever. Also, I, now that you mention it, you know, just looking at how this election went, I don't view this as a conservative win more. I'm view it more as a normie win. I think normies look at Donald Trump and they think, oh, he's not saying they, them, right? He is normal. And we're going to vote for the normal guy because he's not very ideological. And he's actually quite moderate on policy and almost everything, right? So
Starting point is 01:09:41 a lot of seeing all the minority groups and everyone moved to the normie side, I think that should give us some hope that maybe they're going, that they won't just move to Trump, but they'll start thinking about the other ideas that the left has and rejecting them. So that's a great point. That's a great point. Well, the book is The Rise of Blue and On. It's a great read. It gets into a lot of history. Then you realize how wronged we've been all these years and it kind of makes you mad. You get to recount all of it. David Harsani, always good to talk with you. I'd love to have you back. Thanks so much. Congrats on the book. Thank you. Anytime.
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Starting point is 01:11:30 Let's see here. Okay, let me look at the Trump banner one. This guy. I've read, I think I've read something similar. There was a guy who painted his house in American Flag. that he was mad. This guy is the, it's a viral, it's a 30A house and he has giant Trump banners. And one of them is Trump pointing. It's his, I mean, it goes like three levels. And he's going, who's your daddy? At Seagrove Beach, it's a house along the coast. They, homeowner would not
Starting point is 01:12:01 take down his banners. And so he got hit with $63,000 in fines. And so he draped a new one over the balcony that said Trump coming home. I mean, there are three stories long. So it's a big banner just so you know that. Like it's the size of an office building. He's displayed various Trump banners since 2020. He had one that says Trump's coming home 2025. That was the latest one.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And he took a picture of in front of his house in a stars and stripes jacket that says Trump on it. I see dancing or posing. I don't know. And he's in front of his banners. One of them says bulletproof. The other says, who's your daddy? And the other says Trump coming home.
Starting point is 01:12:39 2025. And he says, he's not taking them down. So they, it's Walton County code compliance. They're saying that his banners are violating the scenic corridor code 16.05. And it enforces a fee of $50 per day for every day a banner is hung. He's had these things out for 42 months. He says he's, that it's protected by the First Amendment. And he goes, I've got great lawyers. I think he does. Like the guy is in front of a three story house. yeah no technically four if you count the ground level uh that's crazy i don't even know what kind of steel had to go into building that house on the coast but i think he's probably's got the resources to fight fight his case right i feel like he's got the resources to do so just you know it's what
Starting point is 01:13:31 seems that way uh let's see i got a couple oh yeah so this guy grady judd said that this florida man should have hit his cocaine before calling the deputies. A Florida man and a teenager were arrested in frost proof, which is the actual name of a town, and I could not love it anymore. A Polk County Sheriff said that a group of juveniles had been aggravating and harassing, 54-year-old Everett Brown, and he said that a 14-year-old kicked in Brown's door and hitting with a red broom handle and burglar and battery felonies. But then while the deputies were processed in the scene, Brown had left his cocaine all out on the table and counter. And he said, well, he forgot to hide his cocaine before he called.
Starting point is 01:14:11 called for us to come and investigate the crime. So then he also went to jail for possession of cocaine and paraphernalia. The other kids went to jail for burglary and battery. There you go, folks. We've got more in store. Another hour on the way. Stick with us. Welcome back to the program. It's Dana Lash with you, top of this third hour. And we are waiting. We're watching all the appointments. We're watching all of the drama unfolding, whether it's the, Senate, whether it's the house, whatever it is, we're keeping you up to date with everything. And you can make sure you follow along, too, over at Substack, Chapter and Verse, because we've got a lot of stuff that goes on over there as well. I saw this headline. I just, I wasn't going to start
Starting point is 01:14:55 the show off with it, but it's like trendy now. They're saying Eva Longoria has left the United States after Donald Trump's victory. What has she been in lately? She's leaving the United States. she left, she fled the country and moved, she's now living in Spain and part time in Mexico. I read a piece in Daily Mail that she left over a year ago. She moved to Spain over a year ago. Why are they acting like she just left?
Starting point is 01:15:32 Trump won and now she left. So? Like I don't understand these people. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. cares. Nobody cares about any of the stuff. Just stop. These people that are pushing, that are like announcing that they're leaving X or the United States. Oh, nobody cares. But I don't think she's been in anything lately. I think she just like every election cycle she comes back up because she raises money. I don't know if she's been in anything since that housewives show. Right? And that was that was on since. before I moved to Texas. So it's been a bit. It's been a minute. It's been a little bit of a minute. Coming up later at the bottom of this hour, we're going to talk to Dexter Taylor. Yes, the one who is in
Starting point is 01:16:22 jail because he's fighting for freedom and Second Amendment rights. He's been wrongly, wrongly convicted. You want to talk about injustice? I hope Trump pardons him. In fact, that's what we should be pushing for, is a pardon of Dexter Taylor, because that would be huge. So maybe that's something that we should talk about. But we're, uh, we're, we're going to be pushing for. But, uh, We're going to talk to him, like I said, at the bottom of this hour, get into all of that. And we've been following along with all of the complete freakouts from all these appointments that have been coming in. And there's more to come still. Although, we were talking about the Matt Gates one for AG.
Starting point is 01:17:03 That's the only one where I'm like, because for a few reasons, I have every justification. to worry about picking from the house. We have such a narrow majority. And now we got Walt Stefonic and you take Gates out. That is going to leave us with a narrower majority than what we have now. And people don't understand that you can't just appoint someone in a house seat. It has to be a special election. Now, the governor of a state can appoint for Senate.
Starting point is 01:17:38 it. But for a house, it just can't be an appointment to house. It has to be a special election. And some of these, depending on where they are, can take some time. You're talking months. Like someone was saying, I think for New York, it might be, what, until summer? Or fall or something like that? I had this in my notes. That's too long to wait. That's way too long to wait. that's that's way too long to wait especially when you're going into a brand new congress you got a brand new administration you want to hit the ground running and this is you cannot hamstring yourself you remember what we said time is of the essence so if you're going to cut all these departments
Starting point is 01:18:31 so you've got Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami that are running doge and I just like saying it's a department of what is it government efficiency doge they will look and see what they want cut and by the way i i heard a sound by from the vague ramoswami where he said they want to be they want to have all this down by 26 and then do away with the department i think that's one of the best things he's ever said genuinely i loved hearing that loved hearing that we should get him on the show i loved hearing that i was like, wait, you're talking about cutting government and then cutting the department or cutting the outside agency that's cutting government? What's the last time you ever heard anyone go? Yes, we're going to, we're going to get rid of our own department. No one does that. It's funny.
Starting point is 01:19:25 So anyway, I was like very excited over that because when you start talking about government, I'm like that Vince McMahon thing, that meme that he has where he makes an excited faith and he gets more and more and more excited. Oh, I love it. Except when I look excited, I look crazy. I look creepy because I have RBF naturally and I'm not a super exuberant person in that fashion. So when I look super happy and joyful, it's creepy. So I always have to train myself to keep a nice pleasant expression on my face because if I don't raise my eyebrows up into my scalp, then I look mean and crabby or terrifying. So anyway, but I genuinely, I really liked hearing that. So the, these positions, I don't, I don't want to jeopardize the house.
Starting point is 01:20:08 And I love that we're talking about cutting all of this stuff. But if you, when they come up with programs that need to be cut and when they recommend that to POTUS or Congress, Congress, because it's the power of the purse, all spending, all of that stuff has to originate there. You're not, you're going to have a difficult time getting things past if you keep reducing the majority. And you need to have a buffer because you all know, we got some rhinos up in there. So you got to have a buffer. and that's where I get really nervous. And people say, well, you know, it's a solid red district. That's not the point.
Starting point is 01:20:43 The point is that you have to hit the ground running. It has to be speed. That's what we talked about two weeks ago. It has to be all gas, no break. They have to race to do this before the bureaucratic state can move to oppose it. They need to not be unpredictable the way that they go about. slashing and removing this stuff. And so when you gum it up by reducing the majority and making it take longer to get all of these cuts approved, you are shooting yourself in the foot.
Starting point is 01:21:20 In order to do what they need to do, because they're, guys, they're talking about cuts, the size of which are pretty mind-blowing. And the reduction of even entire agencies. that you need speed with that and you cannot help them do it by by having a smaller margin in the house you're going to have to have a buffer you want to have so many votes you want to have not just a majority you want to have a majority to where you can spare a couple of rhinos where you can spare a couple of people who watch as you are cutting the special interests to their state so you need to be able to get beyond that that's what makes me really nervous about it. The ethics investigation, I know that report was coming out. I just like watching like people
Starting point is 01:22:09 fight with each other in Congress, especially for they're on the same side. It is very entertaining. Ladies, don't ever, don't let any dude ever tell you that you're dramatic after you watch away some of these dudes slap fight and argue about stuff in the house. It's hysterical. I mean, they actually did almost fight in the house. There was that one where it turned into this like great lip reading thing and one guy was physically held back by his face. So, I think that there's some ethics. I know that they had the ethics investigation that was happening and that it's, there might be some 4D chess. I talked a little bit about this last hour about, you know, maybe this might be why this is happening.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Because look, if you have, it either means that Trump means business and he's not just trolling, but he's putting a lawmaker that has a very well-known petty streak. And pettiness isn't always bad, but a petty streak. in charge of DOJ. You're guaranteeing that someone's going to get revenged upon. It's a guarantee. Or Trump is very aware of this report from the Ethics Committee that's coming out and he is aware of it and he wants to get around it by, you know, since the public can pick apart this record and these ethics, these accusations of impropriety. So that when Gates is, is rejected, then Trump can say that he stood by him. Gates resigned his seat so he doesn't come under the jurisdiction of House ethics. What that means for the report coming out remains to be seen,
Starting point is 01:23:46 but all that comes out in confirmation hearings. So this might be Trump doing a Machiavellian move, actually genuinely maybe. So it's, you know, there's all kinds of rumors and speculation and all kinds of stuff. But it is that I think his would be probably the toughest one. And, and, you know, two, it's something maybe he threw out there to distract everybody from the other nominations. I mean, that also could be the case. So then they, they're talking about recess appointments to speed up the case. And I wanted to touch on this because that's, they're not as easy as people think. And it's not necessarily the answer. And they don't last like you think that they last. Um, if you, sometimes this is a way to get around not being able to get a majority, but there are all, there are limitations to it. Um, if you, if you do recess appointments, um, that, and you can do that under article two of the constitution, you can appoint principal officers, etc. And this is something I think that Thune had said that he would consider doing. Uh, he would, he would allow recess appointments or something to that effect. And that would be,
Starting point is 01:25:01 something that he would consider because he would have to call recess. But to get recess appointments in, they serve a, it's not supposed to be a permanent thing. And they get into it. It was federal of 67 where they talk about recess appointments. And there's, it's supposed to be like a backup to do these appointments to fill up vacancies that happen during the recess of Senate. I would actually argue that recess is a lot different now than it was then because during the time of the founders when they went on recess, they didn't have. have the internet. They didn't have the telephone. You know, you had the post where someone would get on their horse and ride you a piece of mail, but they did not have the instant way to communicate. They didn't have Zoom. They didn't have Skype. They didn't have any of that. And so it was very, very difficult to communicate appointments when they were actually recessed. I think
Starting point is 01:25:50 that that's changed because of the communications that we have. And I'm wondering if that's something that should be revisited, honestly. But recess appointments, to use recess appointments as a way to dance around majority is a very unconstitutionalist way of doing things, because you are pushing the limits of this authority to its extent and beyond, which is something we're used to seeing with Democrats, but I just don't want to see Republicans emulate the same thing, even if it's to get back at the left. There, I don't think that there's going to be a delay, though, in getting his cabinet officials confirmed because they were really quickly. I mean, they had, so his DOD and his DHS, after he was elected in 2016, they literally were confirmed like a week and a half, like after he
Starting point is 01:26:42 assumed office. So there isn't a record of there being a delay to get his appointees confirmed. His AG was confirmed on February 8th and Secretary of Treasury February 13th. And you can't have Senate they would have to go on recess right after, you know, the inauguration and for 10 days or more. And you just can't have that. That would be a really, really bad move and a bad look for a Senate Majority Leader. And then you have federal law because you can't pay salary to recess appointees. That's a thing. There's a lot.
Starting point is 01:27:19 And they're limited. You can only have them serve in that role for a short amount of time. And then you either have to go through the confirmation process or go through another recess appointment and go through that whole. So it's not as easy as you think. There's better ways to do it, and I think they need to stick to the confirmation process. We have more in store as we roll towards the bottom of this third hour, and we're going to have Carbon Mike, aka Dexter Taylor, going to be joining us. And now, all of the news you would probably miss.
Starting point is 01:27:47 It's time for Dana's Quick Five. So veterinarians are reporting an alarming trend. Apparently dogs are getting sick from marijuana exposure. Do not feed your dog, your pot gummies, or, like, let your dog get in your pot gummies. FFS. Do not. They said that this has been something that they've seen a lot.
Starting point is 01:28:08 They said that pets don't really get high. They get sick. And any loss of control is very, very scary for them. And so they said that there was, they talk about how Frenchie got into a bag of THC gummies. And then the dog was limping and falling over. And he had ingested three 10 milligram gummies. And like all these people have,
Starting point is 01:28:28 have like these stories, these vets have stories and they're saying, please, because I mean, it makes your pets super sick and they're seeing, and pets are seeing this more and more. A cigarette smuggler tried floating across the river designed as a water plant. This is actually hysterical. This, uh, where was this at? This is in Argentina. So from Paraguay to Argentina, they had a guy in military, military fatigues, their, their troops came out. And they had looked at this plant. It looks like like a house plant, a mound of it. And it looks
Starting point is 01:29:04 really suspect when you're in the river and there's no other foilage like this or foliage really in the water like this. And you just see a mound of it floating across the river into the bank. It just looks kind of sketch and suspicious.
Starting point is 01:29:20 And that's how they were able to easily find out. You know, it's funny. So I don't know. He ended up getting into major trouble. now they're trying to say there's a quindemic concern amongst winter illnesses. I don't know what that means. What is a quindemic concern? They said that you've got, instead of a triple dimic, it's a quindemic.
Starting point is 01:29:40 So you have whooping cough, walking ammonia, RSV, and flu. Or maybe people can just wash their hands and stay home when they're sick. That's also a possibility, you know, just a, a, what? A Chinese mother shared a photo. of a toddler urinating on the family meal? What in the world? This is what News 18, it was South China Morning Post, which is a commie paper. Apparently,
Starting point is 01:30:10 I guess this mom decided to share it on social media in Beijing. And she said, yes, we did go ahead and with the dinner. So they... They ate it? Yeah, I hate everything. Carbon Mike, Dexter Taylor, 2A. Rights. Next. The Dana Show podcast.
Starting point is 01:30:27 You're fast. funny and informative news companion for those always on the move. Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash here with you. You can listen coast to coast. You can watch the stream on Channel 347 DirecTV. Find us on X, find us on Rumble, find us on Facebook. You guys know, too, one of the biggest issues that I push for is Second Amendment issues.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Second Amendment issues. And of course, a lot of stuff has been wrapping up in two A issues, four A, five A issues as well. And one of the cases that we have followed quite extensively has been that of Dexter Taylor. And I've written about this a lot. The Dexter Taylor case in New York. And if you're unfamiliar with him, you know, he's a hobbyist. He has no record. He's just kind of a brainiac, engineer dude.
Starting point is 01:31:19 That's kind of how he is. And he always, he had, as a hobby, had engaged in the completely legal. practice of building his own firearms. And he never even fired, by the way. The first time they were fired is after his home was raided in the ATF and FBI and everybody seized everything. But it was completely legal and the New York starts passing all these gum laws and then they make felons out of innocent people. In a very, very unjust trial, Dexter Taylor, aka Carbon Mike, was sent to prison. That is where he is now. And that's where he is now. And that's a very, very unjust trial. Dexter Taylor, a.k.k.k. is from where he joins us on the phone. Dexter Taylor, aka Carbon Mike, joins us from prison on the phone,
Starting point is 01:32:04 and he is still fighting the good fight. My friend, how are you? How are you doing? I'm very good, my sister. How are you doing? Well, I would be a heck of a lot better if you got a pardon from the president-elect, and maybe that's something that could happen if they get familiar with your case, but you've been fighting the good fight and tell me, I mean, I know you've got to go through the appeals process. Where does all that stand right now? Well, our process is kind of at a standstill until we
Starting point is 01:32:34 raise some more money to pay my legal team to actually draft the appeal, file it, and get us on the docket. So that's where we are now. The situation was complicated by the fact that as you know, because I am a quote, unquote, violent felon
Starting point is 01:32:53 because I owned and kept firearms inside my own house, right? Right. I couldn't get bailed up after the verdict. So after the verdict, I went the right to Blackers Island. And I stayed there
Starting point is 01:33:06 until sentencing, and then sometime after that, I was moving to the state system. When I moved from Lifer to the state system, I moved in a process of a limoical call transit, and I'll visit the increase out of and you can't call your people, know, know where you are. So a lot of the stuff I was
Starting point is 01:33:22 looking like doing talks with people like people fly, Reverend Tim, so on. I couldn't do any of that stuff. So our PR effort kind of fell off. In the last month or so, we've just made a concerted effort to now kind of reignite that PR effort and, you know, get like out there and hit the circuit, so to speak, and remind people of what's going on. Yeah. And we're talking with our friend Dexter Taylor, who is a, he's a two-a natural rights icon. He's in prison. He wouldn't take, he wouldn't cut a deal.
Starting point is 01:33:57 He was, he's unfairly unjustly targeted because he was a hobbyist, built his own firearms, which is a perfectly legal thing to do, except New York decided to change their law. And then they made felons out of completely innocent people with zero record at all whatsoever. And I know we're going to talk coming up about the Gibson Go and all of that. But what would you have, what would you have to X people know right now? what do you need people to do? What would you have them know right now to help you? That's a good question. I would have them know more or less what you said that not only do I have a clean criminal record or did I have a clean criminal record before I was rated.
Starting point is 01:34:42 No one was I remember in good standing of my local gun range. I was a 30-slaw veteran, a year veteran of the software industry, a father, productive citizen, a good neighbor. in my politics, I've been doing conservative politics online since about 2015. Nothing in my politics would mark me out as someone who, you know, the average Joe on the street might say, hmm, are you sure that guy should have weapons? Nothing. So I encourage people to kind of follow their skepticism. There's a lot of people who understand,
Starting point is 01:35:12 we hear about this case and say there have to be something else, right? There have to be some reason why they went after this guy. Go ahead and run down all those angles. And when you're done with that, what I'm hoping people will do is, you know, contribute in whatever way they see fit. They can send prayers. They can send readings. They can send moral support.
Starting point is 01:35:30 And, of course, they can send money through my gifts and go to help to help up our legal fund. But that's – and the other thing people can do, by the way, and the thing I would have people do if they can is spread the work. New York Democrats have been able to get away with this kind of thing for years, because they think no one cares, because they think they will not pay any political price for violating people's Second Amendment rights. And we aim to show differently. So, for example, Eric Gonzalez, the Brooklyn DA,
Starting point is 01:36:06 that publicly was going to make an example of me. I want to help him. I think I should help him. I think that we should have more people around the United States, understanding this is how Democrats. quote unquote care about us. This is how Democrats, quote, unquote, care about the city. This is how Democrats, quote, unquote, care about black people. Like, I, I want everyone to know what a great thing Eric Gonzalez did when he decided that he did not care what the Supreme Court said in 2022.
Starting point is 01:36:39 So, yeah, sunlight, best disinfectant. There you go. Do you, do you think, would you, I mean, obviously, and I hope that this gets up to President Alex Ears, a pardon could solve this. couldn't it? Well, listen, I'll take a pardon if it has no conditions on it, right? If there's no, well, you can't talk about it, you can't sue New York, any of that. But a pardon wouldn't solve it because what really has to happen is the laws in New York have to change. In other words, these laws, remember, are unconstitutional.
Starting point is 01:37:13 So this is not put me aside for a second. This is not just about me. this is one state in the union running wild and i just want to also point out to people that i caught no federal heat on this case right that is so wild yeah because it's legal federally right well that that's right so you know at f drove the search warrant and was there to kind of check their work other than that they disappeared we haven't heard from them now you know if i've been doing anything really out of order ATF would have been all over me like hunter-bottes on a Coke line. So, you know, it's, this is entirely, this is entirely New York State being out of
Starting point is 01:37:58 line. And so that's, yeah, that's all. Part of it would help, but ultimately what has to happen is the law has to change because I don't want them doing this to other people. And also, you know, I'm, I'm interested in the firearms industry. You know, your husband, Chris, knows that I have a deep in weapons science. I prototyped one of the things, one of the systems he and I discussed, Osiris, the open-shot registration system on Kyle Serafins podcast. You know, people need to know that this is an American industry. This is an American tradition.
Starting point is 01:38:34 And if people are saying, well, there's people out there shooting the place up, well, by all means, go run down the people who are shooting the place up. And while you're at it, you know, we can also have a discussion about the manifest failure of a decades-long liberal experiment to replace families, replace fathers with the state. And then standing back and wondering why we have so much violence in the streets, why we have so much violence in the schools. It's a good question, right? It's a very good question. But the answer can't be going after a law-abiding citizen and saying that he can't quietly, privately keep and bear arms in his arms. own home. That can't be right. And so that's what we're fighting. And I love your point that you made on
Starting point is 01:39:22 this talking with Dexter Taylor, aka Carbon Mike, who is unjustly incarcerated for a, I mean, really a brand new crime that New York decided to fabricate out of the ether. I like the point that you made, Dex, about, you know, you could get a pardon and that could, you know, that could get you back with your family, but that law would still exist in New York. And you would have to leave New York if you wanted to continue your hobby at that point. That's correct. I mean, what's funny is I was planning to, you know, once I got all the information, I will subscribe to a service run by, I think it's run by Ryan Coochner, ex-military guy. He has a thing called Rocket FFL. So I signed up a Rocket FFL again before I was raided. I was studying how to, you know,
Starting point is 01:40:04 what I'd need to file to get an FFL. And I was thinking about, you know, when my gun lab in the woods of New Hampshire, because I have some, you know, family connections to New Hampshire. But, yes, it would be awfully nice if New York would get in line and stop violating people's civil rights. And that's the other thing. Go ahead. No, go on. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, I was going to say, you know, a lot of the people, let's want to touch on this. You know, a lot of people who claim to be pro-civil rights, who claim to be pro-black, you know, it's like a lot of this.
Starting point is 01:40:44 You know, people always ever know to tell me about Harriet Tubman. People forget that Harriet Tubman was packing. Everybody wants to tell me about Martin Luther King. People forget that the safe houses Martin Luther King stayed at were arsenals. People forget that the civil rights movement was armed to the teeth, actually, because what they rejected was political violence, and correctly so. But they weren't stupid. And so, you know, the other thing I always say, then, it's like,
Starting point is 01:41:13 don't don't get in my face and tell me about how you've got to change all the rules you've got you've got to indoctrinate my kid with all this nonsense in school murderous law supremacists are everywhere and in the and in the other breath you say well you're willing to defy the law of the land to disarm me that does not make sense something after getting somebody's lying about something so we've got to have that up that's absolutely right talking with our friend Dexter Taylor aka Carb and Mike a hobbyist who built firearms in his home perfectly legal thing
Starting point is 01:41:49 and the New York changed their law to make a felon out of them and that's the other important part of this case is that what he's doing you heard Dex say the feds didn't get on him it was New York state because federally it's allowed and at some point Dexter do you think that that I mean
Starting point is 01:42:04 that feels like that's got to get settled at a higher level and I know that this is going to go through the appeal process because it's protected it's all right. I mean, it's, it's kind of fact it's protected federal activity. They're very clear about it. So you have the state law, which is in direct contribution with federal law, that's got to get resolved. That's right. That's got to get resolved. It's important to note that one, the good news, because I've been doing a little bit of legal research since I've been inside. The good news is that federal appeals courts now have started throwing out gun indictments left and right.
Starting point is 01:42:37 I mean, they've been tossing them out, left and right, because they accept, and not just tossing them. them, but tossing them on brun grounds, right? So that's a very good thing. The liberal judges we happen to have in New York State, in the state appeals court system, are still kind of on that thing of pretending they can't read. But we like our chances in the federal system for just that reason. If the Supreme Court, excuse me,
Starting point is 01:43:07 if the Second Amendment protects any right, It is the right to keep and bear on in your house. I heard my mom played for me some of the segment that CBS ran on my case, and they included, as I figured they would, you know, one of the, someone, I guess, suppose they take the opposite side, some professor somewhere who said, well, the Second Amendment, the right to keep it on is not an unlimited right. And, you know, I thought about that. It's worth addressing, even though it's not very well fallout.
Starting point is 01:43:39 We're not talking about an edge case here, right? In other words, if I've been brandishing a pistol at the mall, or if I've been, you know, walking down Broadway with a slung AR, or if I've been towing a howitzer through Central Park, then you might talk about, well, that's a bit excessive. But this is in my house. Okay. So all that noise you hear about a liberal burden,
Starting point is 01:44:05 about the Second Amendment not being a suicide act. I agree. nobody was talking about suicide. We were all kind of minding our business until they decided to break my door down. So now we're going to have this legal fight. And I think the best thing we can do is escalate that legal fight
Starting point is 01:44:24 into a political fight as well. It is time for these Democrats and local and state governments to start paying a political price for stopping all over the constitutional rights, the civil rights, because that's what they are.
Starting point is 01:44:39 of the people who they're supposed to be working for. Amen to that. They have Dexter in there with rapists and murderers, and he is an innocent man, truly innocent man, who did nothing but a federally protected hobby that New York only recently decided to take issue with. And they've taken him from his kids.
Starting point is 01:44:59 They took him from his life, his home. They've got him locked up in there. And you want to talk about injustice? That's injustice. And it's got to get changed. Dex, I want to make. sure that you need anything, my friend, you please let us know. And we're going to try to do everything that we can here to keep the fire on this and to help meet these costs so that you can
Starting point is 01:45:18 get this, you can fight this and get this overturned. And then we can, and then we can get New York's laws overturned because nobody should have to go through this for a federally protected, constitutionally affirmed natural right. God bless you, my friend. You're going through the ringer for a lot of people who don't know it or appreciate it, but we sure do. God bless you. Look, thank you. It's just the same to you. God bless you and your family. And let's keep the pressure on.
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