The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Chip Roy Reacts, Congressional Chaos, and Misleading Democrats
Episode Date: December 20, 2024The GOP goes to war with itself over the budget battle. A midnight government shutdown looms. Dana breaks down what changed overnight in Congress. The Biden administration announces another $1.2 Billi...on in aid for Ukraine in the coming days. Democrats lied about part of the bill claiming Republicans gutted funding for childhood cancer research but that bill already passed in March. Dana explains why American families deserve to get what they voted for and demand lawmakers work for them. Rep. Chip Roy joins us to react to Trump’s comments about him on Truth Social, the threat of a government shutdown and more. Pete Buttigieg 2028? John Launius from Shihan Wellness joins us to brighten up the Christmas season with his Incense Journey, his experience with UFO’s, his efforts for returning veterans and more.Please visit our great sponsors:All Family Pharmacyhttps://allfamilypharma.com/danaAre you emergency ready? Stock up today at allfamilypharma.com/dana and use code DANA10 for 10% off your entire order. Black Rifle Coffeehttps://blackriflecoffee.com/danaUse code DANA to save 20% on your next order. Byrnahttps://byrna.com/danaGive the gift of personal safety this holiday season with Byrna.com/DanaPatriot Mobilehttps://patriotmobile.com/danaGet a free smart phone with promo code FRIDAY. Limited-time offer, or while supplies last. PreBornhttps://preborn.com/danaEvery contribution counts. To donate securely dial #250 and say keyword BABY or visit Preborn.com/DANA. ReadyWise https://readywise.comUse promo code Dana20 to save 20% on your entire purchase.
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When I got through cancer about 12 years ago, I made my promise to my kids that I would do everything I can to save this country.
And what we're doing right now is to continue to double down on the things that are destroying the republic.
We are going to increase the debt ceiling. Not just 4 trillion, that's false.
We have spent $4.7 trillion in additional debt in the last 19 months.
We're going to increase the debt by $5 trillion.
That's what's going to happen right here.
here by Republicans increasing the debt $5 trillion. And what are you doing in the same bill?
$110 billion unpaid for. Because you never have any ounce of self-respect to go out in campaign
saying you're going to balance the budget, and then you come in here and pass $110 billion
unpaid for. On top of the $200 billion you did for WEP, you guys won't agree with that,
But the fact of the matter is, $330 billion.
Congratulations.
You've added to the debt since you were given the majority again on November 5th.
It's embarrassing.
It's shameful.
Yes, I think this bill is better than it was yesterday on certain respects.
But to take this bill, to take this bill yesterday and congratulate yourself because it's shorter in pages,
but increases the debt by $5 trillion is asinine.
And that's precisely what Republicans are doing.
It also turns off PAYGO.
It turns off the $1.7 trillion in automatic cuts under PAYGO.
Because this side of the aisle is profoundly unsurious about actually reducing deficits,
just as my colleagues the other side of the aisle are profoundly unsurious about reducing deficits.
The entire body, the entire body, has been racking up debt.
for my entire life.
$36 trillion, a trillion dollars of interest.
We rack up a trillion dollars every 100 days.
And what are we going to do about it?
We're going to run around and talk about cutting taxes,
but not doing what's necessary to cut the spending
along with the cut taxes.
My other side of the aisle, my colleagues will say,
oh no, we've got to increase taxes,
but we'll do anything to cut spending.
And so here we sit in the same mess.
And I've got to be honest, I want to remind people, this is Article 1.
I yield back.
Article 1, Section 8, which outlines what the government is allowed to do, and it outlines what the government is allowed to spend.
And, you know, I'm going to tell you guys something.
I get really Machiavellian with stuff.
I don't agree with any, a single, there's not a single.
there's not a single politician on God's green earth that I agree with 100%.
Not even Ron DeSantis.
There's not a single, not even Reagan, right?
Not even Massey.
There's not a single politician that I agree with 100%.
Do you guys agree with your spouse is 100%.
Do you agree with your girlfriend's 100%?
Do you agree with your moms and dads?
100%?
What about your siblings?
Have you ever changed your mind?
That's kind of a big question, have you?
Because that means you're disagreeing with yourself.
The reason I say this is because there's one thing that I am absolutely hell bent on.
And that one thing is making sure that we are not adding to, what is the debt came?
Jebus, I can't even remember.
What's the debt?
Right now, 36 trill.
30, okay.
I think every hundred days, every hundred days we're adding a trillion.
So I am really, I get really, uh, pissy.
Can I say that?
Because I do.
When it comes to spending money, because I pay so much in tax, you pay so much in tax.
I know that you guys are taxed to death.
It's one of the reasons why, you know,
I kick started the Tea Party 2.0.
So when I see a spending bill, you know, I immediately think, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a second here.
Wait a second.
What do we spend our money on?
What is this going to?
Is it paid for?
And nothing that Chip Roy said here, not a single thing is wrong.
Not a single thing.
I know people are upset about it.
I know they're upset about it.
I know they get, they're mad.
But, you know, the reality is, he's right.
He's right.
And we're going to talk about that because we're also going to go over what the old draft of the bill was and then what was in the new draft.
Because there's a lot of stuff, there's a lot of things that changed overnight.
and I want to make sure that you guys are as informed as possible on this stuff.
And the one thing that I will be forever consistent on is spending on this because of how much, you know, the ungodly amount of money that we pay.
The ungodly amount of money that government wastes.
This is the first test.
right here of this new, of the new administration and new Congress.
This is the first test because if these lawmakers cannot get it under control now,
by God, they're not going to be able to do it with Doge.
And y'all know it's true.
That's the reality of this situation.
And I mean, the, you know,
this point of tax cuts, you know, making sure that we have tax cuts super important,
making sure that we're not tax to death, making sure that we're not sending billions of
dollars somewhere.
This is all super important.
And that's what this fight is about.
So I've got a lot of stuff to hit you with today.
We're going to go over the old draft, the new draft, what they're doing today because
they got a deadline tonight, arbitrary too.
We're going to dive into all of it.
We're going to look at the fight that we have with the over the budget, this fight that we have
with the budget.
We're going to look at that.
We're going to look at the, because they reduce the pages, but they didn't reduce
the amount of debt.
They didn't reduce the amount of spending.
That's supremely important that we note that.
So we're going to get into all of it and get,
you set up because it's our last
broadcast
of the year
and then obviously you know we come back
in the new year
so that's what we got we got a lot of stuff
we got a lot of stuff to hit and we're going to have to have a talk
with a little
little heart to heart
and all of this so welcome to the show
Dana Lash with you we're at the top of this
first hour I'm in Christmas Red
don't get used to it
I did it for you.
I wore red for you today for Christmas red, right?
All right.
So let's dive into it.
Last night, all hell broke loose.
And we're going to talk to a couple people today.
We talked to Thomas Massey yesterday.
I got Congressman Chip Roy, who's going to be talking with us today.
I want to ask questions.
Now, look, I'm going to tell you guys something.
You guys know me.
Let me just set the stage.
You guys know me.
I've been pretty consistent.
it's hard to be in this business.
I've been in this business since I was in my 20s.
It's hard to be in this business and be on air for three hours every single day.
I've been on air since 2008.
So everything that I've ever said, everything that I've ever held, all my positions are out there.
You can go see for yourself.
You don't have to take my word for it.
You can go and see for yourself.
and I have been consistent.
That's one thing.
To a fault.
I have caught all hell from Republicans over the years for my consistency.
I have had Republican nominees like Mitt Romney try to get me fired from my job.
I have had people who have called my radio station at like senior members of the house
before screaming out my programming director in one affiliate or another.
Oh my gosh.
And I don't bend any knee.
I'm not an ass kisser.
Because I have one goal and am very selfish.
I want to be left alone.
That's it.
I don't care about your stupid cocktail parties in D.C.
I hate that.
I hate the people that always go to them and have to be seen at them.
I hate that stuff.
I want to be out in the middle of nowhere and be left alone.
Kane can attest to this.
Drives him nuts.
Drives him nuts.
I've got to be coaxed out to go to Vegas for a shot show every year.
And the only reason they give me to do that is
because of guns. You know, I get to hold all the guns, right? And sometimes they get free ammo. I'm not
going to lie. But I'm all, I've been consistent on this stuff. I don't, my paycheck does not
depend on whether a politician likes me. My paycheck does not depend on whether or not there are
operatives like me. I mean, many have tried. It doesn't matter. So I don't got anything to lose and
I don't got a dog in this fight. I like people that I like, but I don't agree with them all the time.
We ask hard questions and we ask people to come on and defend their positions and we're always going to do that.
But I'm going to tell you what, you know, I should be more courteous for the Christmas season, but I'm done.
I'm tired. You're all tired too. I can tell by your tone. Y'all are tired.
And I feel for you because I know how it is. I know what it's like coming up broke.
raised by a single mom
could not afford
notebook paper to go to school. I know
what it is to come from nothing. I know what it is
to make ends meet. I know what it is to
wonder where your meal
is coming from. I
live that life. So I get
a little pissy when I see
government trying to spend our money
without any
kind of, they didn't even want to tell you what was in
this stupid thing. That's why they
released it at the last minute. So let me get to my point.
All hell broke loose
last night and the honeymoon is officially over.
The GOP went to war with itself.
I'm going to tell you what.
The Republican's worst enemy is Republicans.
It's not Democrats.
We con ourselves into thinking Democrats are our worst enemy.
They have the crappiest product and there's some of the dumb.
I'm sorry, some of them, not all are the dumbest people.
GOP went to war with itself over this 1500 plus page omnibus bill.
It did everything from raise pay to lawmakers.
It expanded pandemic powers.
it granted an extension of censorship authority.
They could have passed a simple CR.
They refused to do it.
By they, I mean Mike Johnson.
Mike Johnson, I am told by a number of lawmakers.
Now, because they have been so forthcoming with me on information,
and I've talked to a lot of them in various factions,
I was in contact with about 12 of them last night.
It got dirty.
Johnson was trying to play people dirty last night.
he is really trying to divide some division to cover his ass.
That's a fact.
So there were a chunk of Republicans that voted against this last night.
The current debt ceiling expires in June.
Party leaders are hell-bent on mucking it all up.
So they were able to whittle the bill from 115 plus pages,
or sorry, from 15,000, you know, 1,500 something, was it, 80-something pages, to 115 pages.
Okay, so we look at page number.
It didn't reduce the amount of spending.
You had billions and dollars of deficit spending in addition to over $4 trillion for debt.
How was that conservative?
How did you, you didn't vote for that?
You didn't vote for that last election.
You didn't.
But that's what's in the bill.
It didn't reduce the old bill had billions of dollars.
of deficit spending and four plus trillion dollars in debt. The new bill had billions in deficit
spending and four point plus trillion dollars in debt. I linked the bill for you in my piece on substack
so you don't even, again, have to take my word for it. You can just read it yourself.
I'm just the messenger pointing out the stuff that's been written by Speaker Johnson in this
bill. Now I give kudos to, I'll give a little kudos. I think both Ramoswami and Musk are super new to this.
it's one thing to whittle down the pages to 115,
but it's also the amount of money that's stated and buried within the bill.
That's still, that's the most important thing.
It doesn't matter how many pages if you still got the same amount of spending.
It doesn't matter how many pages if you still have an extension of the suspension of the debt ceiling,
which we have now.
How is that working out for you?
The suspension of the, go and buy some eggs,
and you tell me how that suspension of the debt ceiling is working out for you.
And if you don't think it directly impacts how much you're paying at the grocery store,
I feel like we need a grant, not for Ukraine, but for economic literacy.
The bill failed.
You had 38 Republicans that voted against it.
Hardcore votes against it.
They could not be prevailed upon to betray their voters.
I know for a fact that voters in a number of these districts, because we've got affiliates there.
I've got programming directors and all these affiliates.
I've been in touch with legit, almost everyone.
I worked until about 1130 last night.
I was in text.
I was on the phone because I was running down what the sentiment was.
People are livid.
This spending bill was trash.
You're not going to get, spending more now to save more later is like scruing for chastity.
I have such a pack show.
We're already running over.
It's going to be crunching into our headline segment, but I want to make sure I get you everything.
Coming up, we're going to go over what was still in the bill, what they still have left,
and the rights war with itself that's going to kick.
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Welcome back to the program, your lovable cramogen, Dana Lash.
And we're at the bottom of this first hour.
And we've been talking about this.
See, we've got a lot of other stuff to get in, too, because, hey, I know there's a shutdown, but,
Guess who just voted to send more?
Guess who just decided to send more billions to Ukraine?
What?
The administration.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, let's shut down.
That happened.
More of our tax dollars going to Ukraine that was just announced today.
Now, the vote on the CR, this continuing resolution, I mean, they got to go.
They're going to be going all night tonight.
This could happen.
I mean, I mean, this is all happening now because Mike Johnson pooed the bed.
He pooed the bed.
because he's the one who came out
he wrote this bill. He came out with this bill. He wrote it.
So I'm just curious, why everybody's given him a pass?
Why are people giving him a pass for?
That's it. Why are they giving him a pass?
He wrote this. He pushed it in.
There was all this nonsense added to the first draft.
That was the 1500-something pages.
The second one, 115 pages, still had the same level of spending.
in it. There were certain things that were cut. The suspension of the debt ceiling is still in there.
I know people think that that's a made-up thing. I would love to subscribe to that belief.
But the reality that we are forced to work with is that it's a real thing. And it actually
means something. That's the amount of debt that we're allowed to accrue. That's the amount of debt we
have. We've got a service that we can't default, can't have our credit rating
rocked,
Kane, correct?
Yeah.
I mean, hell,
we're fighting for the
petro dollar right now.
You want our credit rating
rocked on top of it?
Come on.
This is Econ 101.
You know,
I get that there are some
pick me influencers
that were progressives
a half a second ago
that don't understand
it because they're not
the ones at work.
They live off the welfare
of their working wives
and they don't understand
the math.
I get that.
Oh, I'm going to be full of it today.
I get that.
But the reality is,
is that the debt limit is a real thing.
I don't want it.
You don't want it.
We don't want more spending.
There's a way to do it without suspending the debt limit.
There's a way to do it without adding, you know, the four.
And I say it's $4 trillion.
I got a lot of people arguing with me about that saying that it's more because that's just a one-year thing.
So I get that, but I don't, I'm not focusing on that right now.
I'm just saying it adds trillions in debt.
So just know that, right?
So in addition to that, we also have the billions, what is it, $110 billion dollars
for the deficit. So that's deficit spending $110 billion. That's the amount of money that's in this.
I have read the bill. I linked it on substack. I read it. I don't know. Like should I like do notes on it
and write them in the margins? I don't know. Now, I know a lot of you out there get it because
you're done with it. And I get, and I'm going to point this out too, for all the infighting on the
GOP, I really want to believe that we're on the same page. This is about,
a different approach to the same end, correct? We have different means to get to the same end.
My means is I ain't spending another dime. That's my means. I'm done with paying that much for
butter, that much for eggs. It's hitting everybody. I got family members that are struggling,
friends that are struggling. There's different groups that we help out with financially. And the
financial need this year is so great. It's crazy.
people are struggling
hardworking families
I mean I know that the Biden administration
wants to tell you that there's a plethora of jobs
there's not
they've been crunching the economy
you have hardworking people out there
they've got skills and want to work
and want to provide for their family
and they're being barred because of the
economic illiteracy of this administration
I get it
that's why I don't want to spend another damn time
I will fight to the death on it
we've got to start somewhere.
The people that are fighting to increase the debt limit and to push spending today are the ones that are going to ignore Doge tomorrow.
You either think Doge is going to have a purpose and you think it means something or you think it's just a mirage that you're going to use to cover your ass so you can spend more and then pretend publicly that you're not.
I fear for that second potential outcome.
I fear for it.
Now, that being said, it's a real thing.
the approaches to it.
I know that the,
I know POTUS elect wants to use the debt ceiling as leverage going into next year.
We got an expiration in June so they can vote to suspend it again.
I get it.
I think that there's a better way.
I'm not the only one.
There are a lot of other really smart people that think there's a better way.
People like Mike Lee think there's a better way.
Even Vivek Ramoswamy was thinking there was a better way.
He was saying the day before yesterday,
hells, yes, you can get this down to one page and you can cut the spending.
I said it the other, I said it when it came out, he's right.
Even Musk is on it.
So let's get to the real meat of it because this is what's blowing up in the conservative sphere.
And we're going to get to this.
We're going to get to all this.
So Chip Roy, you heard him speaking.
He was on the floor and he was understandably upset.
I get it.
He's also, he's being pressured by his constituents.
You better hold the line.
We got affiliates in his area.
I know this for a fact.
We have affiliates.
We have an affiliate in his area.
I know for a fact that they support him and he's popular because he's always held the line.
That's why he kind of breezes through the elections.
Everybody likes him.
You know, don't take a leak on me and tell me it's raining.
I've seen the results.
I live in Texas.
I know the reality of it.
He's being pressured to hold that line by the people who voted for him.
That's what they want.
And that's the agenda they were promised, were they not?
You were promised that agenda.
That's why you voted the way.
That's why you're Democrats voting.
You had everyone from Hispanics, Latinos, black Americans, Indian Americans, Asian Americans, everybody that was voting for fiscal responsibility.
And he's right.
He doesn't want to spend more.
He's right with the math.
Rand Paul came out in defense of it.
He's right with the math.
38 other Republicans are right about it.
So yesterday, POTUS called for him to be primaried.
I don't know why he's doing this.
Why is he calling for him to be primaried but protecting Mike Johnson, the moderate Rhino who wrote the bill?
I don't get it.
But I have a theory.
Now, what I'm about to say does not negate the fact that I voted for Trump three times or that I've known him for over a decade.
I was the first person to introduce him at CPAC.
I know him and his family well.
and I really like them.
I've defended him.
And I will disagree where it is because I'm not a serf.
I'm not a subject.
I'm a citizen.
And I will disagree with everyone.
I disagree with him calling for the primarian of Chip Roy to get in a moderate who would pass big spending.
This isn't about the budget.
This is about relitigating the primary.
Let's have this uncomfortable discussion.
It's our last show of the year.
We'll come back in January refreshed.
Here's the problem.
Roy's biggest sin is not that he's a fiscal.
conservative. Chip Roy's biggest sin is not that he opposes raising the debt ceiling,
but that's part of it. His biggest sin is that he endorsed Ron DeSantis in the primary.
And apparently that's worse than verbatim calling Trump Hitler like J.D. Vanstead in the modern
Republican politics. I'm all four people changing their mind, and I'm not bringing that up
to relitigate that. I'm bringing it up to show the inconsistency of it. This is not about
loyalty. It's about submission, and there's a difference.
It's one of the reasons why so many people were trying to rhetorically give Trump the Shiv during the first term.
It's one of the reasons why one of his top aides that everyone acts like he plays 40 chess, but he doesn't.
He just gloms on to everyone and tries to ride their coattails to success, man.
It's why he was the one who's leading a reporter through the White House, and it ended up in this disastrous story that was a distraction from the Trump agenda.
Your primary position last spring is what now determines your credibility forever.
not your actual voting record, not your actual publicly held positions. And this is an idea that is
promoted by a small group of pick me people who are terrified about the scarcity of opportunity at the
Trump table. So they feel like they got to constantly prove themselves by attacking people who are
more conservative than they are, who have fought harder than they are, and have balls that are
bigger than what they have. That's indisputable. That's stupid. I'm not a communist. We have free and
fair elections. Like the free and fair election that saw Trump win in 2016, that Democrats tried to
undermine. I believe in free and fair elections. The primaries are a part of the free and fair election
process. I am not a communist. We aren't communists who oppose these elections. And I'll be
damn if I apologize to anyone who would demand that I do so. I proudly made my vote three times
in the general because like hell I was voting for Hillary Kamala or Biden. So that's important to note.
If you can't get over the primary, we got bigger problems than Democrats. Primaries are a part
of the system. That's the way of it. We either like free and fair elections or we don't.
I'm not going to turn my back on a free and fair election because a pick-me person who will be irrelevant in four years is demanding that I do so.
That's the bottom line.
And I don't get bullied and I don't get intimidated.
I get meaner and I dig in and I've been up against better.
Now, that's all I'm going to say on that issue.
I don't understand calling to primary people who have been a rubber stamp for his administration.
Chip Roy, Thomas Massey, with a couple exceptions.
Rand Paul, with an exception, have been the most closest voters for the Trump agenda than people like Mike Johnson and others.
I mean, you're talking about people that got 98% conservative score ratings with every single outfit that measures it.
That's super important.
You've got people that have gone to the mat.
for this agenda. Now, I've had people who bring up, oh, Chip Roy talked about impeaching Trump. Yeah, I thought
he was wrong. He didn't vote for impeachment. That was a lie that was created by, I don't know who,
and spread on the internet. Chip Roy, and I don't need to defend him. He's going to come on my show
and defend his own damn self here in a little bit. And I'm going to ask him all those questions.
He didn't vote to impeach Trump. I disagreed with his remarks on it. But because I disagreed with Chip Roy,
Does that mean I got to forfeit my hard-earned money and go into $4 trillion in debt?
Is that what that means?
Both Chip Roy and Donald Trump were talking about George Floyd.
In the very beginning, everyone was trying to assage the tension across the nation as a way to be a diplomat,
not to compromise a principle, but to be a diplomat and try to quell all the stuff that was bubbling up.
That's what leaders do.
That's what Trump did.
And it's what Roy did.
They didn't give nothing up.
They were being leaders.
I got to be honest, I disagreed with both of their statements.
I'm pretty, got some powerful opinions about that.
That being said, does that mean I got to forfeit $4 trillion in spending?
Because I disagreed with him?
Because he said what he said?
Because he literally verbatim said what Trump said.
Do we got to give up the debt ceiling and $4 trillion in spending?
No.
No.
I disagreed with Chip Roy on Paxton.
I like Kim Paxton a lot.
I've had him on my show.
And I thought it, well, I can't say what I thought the witch hunt against him was.
I'll get fine by the FCC.
And I really don't want to use my get out of jail free card with Brendan Carr on that.
But needless to say, Kane, how would you say?
Strongly disliked it, the witch hunt against Paxton?
Because it was a witch hunt.
That's almost accurate.
It was lawfare.
What's stronger than strong?
Yeah.
I disagreed with Chip Roy on it.
That happens.
I mean, not everyone can be right like me.
You know what I'm saying?
So I disagree with Chip Roy on it.
Does that mean I got to forfeit?
$4 trillion in spending?
Does that mean I got to suspend the debt ceiling
and spend us and our children into economic servitude?
Hell no.
So what does that have to do with the debt?
Nothing.
It's a dumb deflection to try to shame you
into backing big spending.
You're smarter than that because you listen to the show and we're friends.
Reject it.
Reject that argument.
Problem is this.
I'm going to be frank with you.
This austerity fight is going to be a bitch.
There are a lot of politicians and their pick-me influencers who rave over Javier Malai.
But what yesterday showed is that when the rubber hits the road, they cave.
Many of them cave.
And this fight only gets harder from here.
Trump is going to get better.
blasted by the left, the media is already trying to pick apart his coalition. I'm going to talk about
that coming up next hour. They're going to say that the spending and the reducing of government,
they're going to blame him for the pain on it before the benefits are even felt. You've got to
reject it. And this is just December. We're not even in January. It's not a job for the week,
but if anyone could do it and not care about public opinion, it's Trump. He's got six months
before midterm cycle starts a four-year limit. He has a
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
As a reporter, I have a confession to make.
I should have pushed harder, earlier, for more information about Joe Biden's mental and physical well-being and any signs of decline.
Oh, my gosh. Who's this guy?
I almost think, I think every guy who leans in a camera, I immediately get like, I think we're all.
We all have like PTSD from tubing.
So whenever I see anybody like using like a Zoom thing to connect to cable news, I'm like,
don't tubing me, bro.
Hands up don't tubing.
I can't breathe.
That's what I think.
Makes me nervous, Kane.
It makes me laugh uncontrollably.
Does it?
Does it now.
Yep.
All right.
So this is what we got on deck here coming up.
Let's just let me lay it down for you.
So we got
The media is trying to drive a wedge
Between Trump and Musk
I know you're too smart for it
But I want to just show you
And go through some of the examples
So you can see all the different ways
They're trying to pick it
Any kind of perceivable crack
It's very important
We're going to talk about that
We're going to talk about Potatos
Who's given more billions
To Ukraine
Not only that
But he also
kicked in more debt cancellation
for government workers.
Did you guys know that?
What?
Shut down.
What?
We got that coming up.
I'm going to break that down.
Congressman Chip Roy, he's going to answer some questions coming up.
You don't want to miss a single second of today's show.
We're rocking and rolling.
Stick with us back in a moment.
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I'm joking
all right so I want to immediately
jump to this one other big falsehood about
the CR and all this stuff
because one of the things that you've heard from the left is
why don't you care about children's
cancer research
that's what they've been saying over I want to play
audio they said it over and over again
audio sound by 16
this is representative
Barbara Lee
now there's two things I want you to listen to
She immediately invokes Musk, number one, and that's a reason why, and we're going to get into that.
But number two, listen to what she says about this.
Listen.
Well, I believe that that's what Elon Musk wants.
And also, I assume Donald Trump has co-signed that.
But Democrats negotiated a bipartisan deal.
But what they care about is making sure that they're tax breaks for billionaires rather than cancer research, for example, for children.
And they don't care about what takes place if, in fact, the government shuts down.
Okay, so here's the problem with us.
Hmm.
There was already a bill for children's cancer research that passed the Republican House,
and it made it to the Senate.
And Chuck Schumer refused, outright refused to bring it to the floor.
What?
What party is Chuck Schumer again, Kane?
Remind all the good people out there.
That would be Democrat, dear.
That's right, sir.
That's right, sir.
You're never wrong.
You know, it's about old people and, you know.
I'm not wrong about that.
But that's kind of a big deal.
That's a huge deal.
They, that bill specifically about children's cancer research already went through the house
and it's been $190 million, head tip Greg Price, for pediatric cancer research.
It passed the Republican House as a stand-alone bill, and it has been languishing in Chuck Schumer's Senate, sponsored by Representative Jennifer Wexton.
This bill, H.R. 3391, the Gabriela Miller Kids First Research Act of 2.0.
They were having committee meetings all the way back in July of last year.
year. In fact, in March 8th, that's when it was pushed to the Senate and referred to the committee
on health, education, and labor. They've only had one vote, a roll call vote, and that was it.
They have not moved it out of that committee, that Democrat-led committee, and that Democrat-led
Senate. And that's the last movement there's been. It went from, it was received, read twice,
referred to the committee on health, education, labor, and pensions.
That was on March 8th of 2024, and it has languished.
So number one, if Democrats were actually serious about cancer research for kids,
they would have already passed this bill.
They've had it since March.
They've refused to take it out of committee.
They got to vote it out of committee.
They just did a roll call vote and let it lie.
That was on purpose.
So that's number one, because they don't want to have
Remember, House is the power of the purse.
These people would rather risk this research funding
than to give the House Republicans a win.
Not even kidding you.
That's how stupid politics are right now.
So that's number one.
Number two, if you really wanted this to pass, Democrats,
why did you tie it to a big spending bill?
Because you know, Mike Johnson was working with Akeem Jeffries on this, right?
This was Hakeem Jeffries.
that it was insisting on tying this to the spending bill.
Why?
If y'all were that serious about it,
why did you tie it to the bill to a spending bill?
Why couldn't you do it as a standalone?
You know, Congressman Thomas Massey made a very good point.
Why can't we just break it down?
Have a standalone for farm aid if you need it.
I mean, I've got issued,
when we're going to talk about that later,
that something separate for hurricane or disaster relief,
and then this separate.
because they can't get their big spending passed unless they can use this as a tool over which
to extort your vote. That's why. That's all this is about. These people aren't serious.
They think that you're not going to pay attention to it. They think that you are going to ignore it.
They did not think that you, they thought you were going to ignore it because you're busy.
It's a Christmas season. You're just trying to afford presents for your kids. You're trying to afford
a meal to put on the table. So they thought they were going to be able to slip this in and extort you
and use kids as the way to do it. It's not the first time they've hid behind kids. I mean, ISIS does it all
the time. I see the gun control activists do it on the reg. And you know, that's truth. So that's a
major problem right there. Big major problem. They think, they thought you weren't going to pay attention.
I love this ABC story.
I was laughing so hard at those.
They're freaking out over the possible impacts of a government shutdown.
Can we just put things in perspective?
Kay, what's today?
Friday.
All right.
What's Monday?
Tuesday.
Oh, yeah, Christmas for me?
Christmas Eve, Christmas and Christmas Eve coming up.
They're already on break, guys.
They're already on break.
They're not even there.
What does it matter?
It's basically a de facto
shutdown anyway.
They come back on January 2nd.
Nobody's going to be there until January 2nd.
So let it shut down.
I don't care.
Let it shut down. That's when government's best,
by the way, because it's shutting down all the
non-essential stuff, save for military pay.
And it's a shame that Democrats want to play
chicken with that.
That is a shame.
And so, you know, I'm telling you,
they can't, they thought you
weren't paying attention to this. So they're saying, oh my gosh, what are the impacts of a shutdown?
They got to scramble. Federal contractors, they're, again, they're not even going to be in office.
1201 a.m. could shut down. They have active duty that until a funding agreement, why can they do a
standalone for active duty funding? I know a lot of Republicans have been pushing that. Democrats have
been fighting them. Why? It's going to impact travel. I'm going to be honest.
with you. I got family that's, uh, that a lot of family traveling. We travel. Everybody
travels over Christmas. And I really want to see my family over Christmas. But I'm not willing to go
$4 trillion in debt. I'm not willing to continually suspend the debt ceiling and just have more of the
same. This is what I'm talking about. This is going to be tough, guys. It's going to be really tough.
And austerity. I mean, look what they did in Greece. They
were, they rioted in Greece when they tried to push austerity. This is going to be a hell of a
fight. And this is going to be a continual non-stop fight over this until midterms. And then it'll be
another fight. I need you to be aware of that. This is not going to be a one and done thing.
What you signed up for was a battle. You signed up for a war, basically, an ideological war.
And if you want this stuff, you got to fight for it. And you got to hold the line. And sometimes it's
very uncomfortable. Sometimes you're going to catch a lot of heat. But that's by design,
because they want to push you away from what you voted for. You deserve what you voted for.
You deserve the return on the investment of your vote. There were so many good people out there.
I saw people, I'm going to tell you, I, with my kids going to school and all that, I met a woman.
has a daughter that's a very big Trump fan.
And thankfully she's going a more conservative Texas school.
And they came from Ohio.
I met him on an orientation thing.
And the girl always, she has a MAGA hat.
She always wanted to wear her hat.
And this was going to be the first election that she was voting in.
She was like really hyper, like aware of how the hat was perceived.
And she was very nervous because I,
think they live in kind of a blue county in Ohio and they were really nervous about it.
And I remember telling the mom like, you don't got to worry about that in Texas.
Have her wear her hat.
She's fine.
These are people who were not politically active before, but, you know, they really went through
it with the economy and they lost a business.
I heard the whole life story.
I get why people make these decisions.
They don't make the, they didn't make the decision to vote the way that they did
flippantly. They made it because they needed to save their family. They needed to protect their
family's nest egg. They needed to protect their kids in schools. They needed, this is the normie
election where normal people were energized into becoming activists because the left was so insane.
These people did not make these choices on a whim. They knew that. They knew that. They were,
it was going to cost them if it came out. Oh my gosh, they voted for Trump. They wore a red hat.
What? The daughter likes Trump. She likes Jady Vance? What? They know that it comes with costs.
And they didn't take that decision lightly. And they really committed and they made it. And I feel
for that kind of seriousness and dedication to their family and to the country, those people deserve a
return on the investment of their vote.
They do not deserve to be betrayed by big spending.
And this idea that you've got to spend more now to save money later is like screwing for chastity.
Doesn't make sense.
The real test is now.
I think Musk and Ramoswamy know it.
And I get real aggravated because I know these people.
I've seen them.
I've talked with them around the country.
And, you know,
as much as I, you know, wouldn't be a hard ass.
Those stories affect you.
You know, when you hear about the business owner who lost their business because they couldn't keep up in Biden economy with the inflation,
that's a family that's suffering because of moves at bureaucrats that were born with the silver spoon up their backside made.
Why would we vote for more of this and think that it's sanctioned because it's a Republican thing?
You have the obligation as a patriot.
You got to hold your side accountable too because power corrupts.
You've got to be the conscience for this party.
This party is going to reject you being its conscience.
You've got to fight it because this is for their good,
their own good, but not just yours.
As Kane notes, the new Congress is being sworn in on January 3rd.
This is a fight.
And they're going to try to go after any cracks they find.
So here's the media's thing.
They want to go after Musk.
Remember, I told you this.
I know we got to get moving.
but I want to play one other quick thing.
This is 15.
Actually, no, this is play 14, please.
This is Hakeem Jeffries.
Republicans have abandoned that bipartisan agreement that we entered into in good faith.
A bill that House Republicans negotiated gave us your word that we were going to move forward together
on behalf of the American people.
There was a Republican drafted bill that was posted by House Republicans.
And then one or two puppet masters weigh in, and the extreme mega Republicans decide to do the bidding of the wealthy, the well-off, the well-connected, millionaires and billionaires.
Not working class people.
They never bitched about billionaires when it was Soros, when it was Bezos, when it was Bezos, when it was Zuckerberg.
They didn't get mad about that when it was janeers.
Jack, Buffett, Turner.
They didn't get mad about any of that.
Bloomberg.
They didn't get mad about any of that.
Oh my gosh.
One.
For the first time ever, the Wright has a billionaire
besides the Koch brothers that get involved
and actually fun stuff.
You don't agree with them on everything,
but it's the 80-20 rule.
And they're livid.
They're going to try to divide.
They're going to try to appeal to Trump's ego.
They're going to try to appeal to the ego of others in leadership.
and they're going to try to act like Musk is calling the shots.
They know that he's not.
But they want to drive division
and they want to make people suspicious of each other.
It's a sci-op. Don't fall for it.
I know you won't.
And now, all of the news you would probably miss.
It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
Man, I keep cheating you guys on headlines.
There's so much content today.
10.1 billion wasted.
Holiday shoppers are spending $10 billion on gifts nobody wants,
like little chotchky stuff.
Stop buying dumb stuff that nobody needs.
Jesus only got three presents.
Nobody else in your life is more special than Jesus.
They don't get more than three.
It doesn't have to be above and beyond.
A mysterious health wave is breaking out across the U.S.
They keep trying to make people think that we're doing fine.
And then here's Trump and RFK Jr.
So I'm done with it.
A wild new study links body part size to dementia risk.
I'll let you guys do the mental gymnastics on that.
Alzheimer's could be caused by herpes.
But wait, what about people who have cold disorders?
like and they don't you know engage in that kind of stuff i don't know the loudest state in america
is revealed number one is new jersey texas is only 25 i'm actually kind of shocked about that new
jersey yeah i get that and i get it coming up congressman chip roy you don't want to miss this
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The chat's at Rumble. And don't forget to follow us at Substack. I had a very interesting piece that came out
yesterday evening about this whole fight over spending and the debt ceiling because this fight is not
over. It's ongoing to date. Deadlines tonight. Some of it's self-imposed. We're going to dive into all
of that with our first guest for our last show of the year. And that is Congressman Chip Roy from
the great state of Texas, great Republic of Texas, who has, well, he's not, he hasn't been
busy and he definitely hasn't been in the news lately. Congressman, it's good to see you.
No good deed goes unpunished. So I just, I want to point out, you know, I, there are a few
lawmakers in D.C. that I think have been consistent and consistency on these huge issues is key for
me. So I'm glad that you've been consistent. But tell people your thought process on this,
because correct me if I'm wrong. I'm going to let you answer. But this, you had 110 billion
in deficit spending. You're looking at $4 trillion, although I'm told it's over really,
ultimately $4 trillion for additional debt. The suspension of the debt limit, none of which is
conservative, none of which I voted for last month. Is that correct? And it didn't change even with
the whittling down to 115 pages.
Yeah, Dana, and by May, I might back up for second.
First of all, Merry Christmas.
Thanks for having me on.
And thanks for seeking truth here.
But if you back up for a minute, since we were rewarded with the majority in November,
heavily obviously in coordination with President Trump's landslide performance in November,
we have done, I think, a poor job of reflecting that in this Congress.
I say that because we passed a $200 billion addition to the deficit.
in the name of a Social Security called Windfall Elimination Program,
was sent to the Senate, and we were told,
oh, don't worry, the Senate will pass it than they are.
They're passing it this week.
And so that adds $200 billion to deficit
and shorten Social Security's bankruptcy by about nine months.
Then, now they've been negotiating this 1,500-page bill
that is, as you described, the first bill,
which I was violently opposed to,
was very public in my opposition against it,
because that had the $110 billion in it, but also had tons of other stuff.
Some of that stuff was good, but should go through regular order.
Some of the stuff was bad and should come out.
So thanks to Vivek, thanks to Elon, thanks to us, by the way, we were exposing this stuff in real time, looking at the bill.
Well, 1,400 pages came out.
Again, some good, some bad.
You're gone.
You got 116 pages left.
It had $110 billion of unpaid for spending, add more deficit.
And it had an increase in the debt ceiling to the tune of two years or roughly $5 trillion
with no spending cuts.
Well, one of my hardcore lines is that I don't raise our credit card without having some
sort of structural spending reforms to cut spending.
I've been opposed to that.
That was a part of the whole deal with Kevin McCarthy a year and a half ago, which led to
caps, which of course immediately got violated.
But we actually did put some constraints in place and we actually honored them
to a degree. We can't, in my opinion, raise the debt ceiling right now without knowing that we will
get structural reforms and cuts in the reconciliation process. Last point, yesterday morning, I was
making the case to conservatives and others on the Hill. We want to give the president runway. He
wants the debt ceiling gone. I get that. I actually agree with him. Wholeheart. Get it off the
table to Chuck Schumer can't use it to mess with us. But it has to come with spending cuts.
that's what the last 48 hours has been about.
And I'm never going to apologize for that.
See, I actually disagree with you on that.
I don't think the dead ceiling should be suspended at all.
Explain this to me because there are some people who say that it's like a gimmick,
that it's like a point of leverage.
Some people say that the dead ceiling is just like a made up thing.
But, I mean, it is a real thing.
You're talking about servicing debt that we can't default on.
I mean, we're fighting over the petro dollar.
We don't want to ruin our credit rating either.
So explain that to folks.
And that's where I'm not on the same page.
with I don't want any kind of suspension of the debt limit.
Sure.
So the debt limit, first of the backup, the Constitution invests in Congress, we must authorize
the addition of debt.
Now, we can get on a whole other show on the printing of money, the Fed, how much we've relinquished
our control.
But we're supposed to authorize that.
So the debt ceiling is a function of Congress.
What that means is just we've said you can only borrow this much.
We keep spending more than that.
And now we have to raise the debt ceiling again because we haven't done our job.
So the only way to try to put breaks on the spending is say, guys, you don't have my vote to increase the credit card limit, to borrow more money unless you change your spending ways.
I know we can't literally, well, I say we can't.
You could stay under the current debt ceiling and just start prioritizing our expenditures and immediately have the affected a balanced budget amount.
That actually could happen.
I actually think President Trump, Elon Begg, Russ, vote, I think they might be able to do that.
I give them a lot of grace that I think they're going to do some good spending cuts.
But we can't agree to bless the death ceiling increase without knowing that we're going to deal with the mandatory side through the reconciliation process, which is 72% of our budget.
So that's what this is all about.
We're talking with Congressman Chip Roy here via Skype if you're just joining us.
I tend to think that this is kind of like one of the first tests of Doge's ability.
to actually have impact.
Because my thought is that if you have members of Congress,
you know, whether it's House or Senate,
if you have people in D.C. who are unable to even just have a structural
something to control this runaway spending,
how are they going to listen to recommendations from Vivek Ramaswami
and Elon Musk that have to go through House and have to go through these same lawmakers?
So this was a point that I made to Elon and to Vivek when they came at
to address Congress 10 days ago when I stood up for the conference and I said, God bless you,
I want to give you more power with impoundment. I want you to be able to cut spending, go through,
use your ground sourcing AI, use ads, put pressure and spotlight on it, comma, however,
if you're looking for the enemy, they're in this room. Congress just has an insatiable desire
to fund more programs, do more spending, and not do the hard business of restraining spending.
And at the end of the day, we have to do most of that. The executive range can do some through
impoundment, other tools, I'd like to give them more tools to reduce the bureaucracy.
I'm good with that, and I say that as somebody who believes in separation of powers.
Executives should be able to do that.
By the way, I completely support President Trump's goal of getting the debt ceiling off the table for Chuck Schumer to abuse, to scare the markets,
but only with guaranteed known commitment to cut spending.
That's what we're debating.
Right now, my colleague, join the room, because we've got a proposal.
trying to craft to up for us to rally around to be the guidepost that will decide whether or not
we will honor our commitment to our constituents to actually reduce spending and balance the budget.
And by the way, what we're proposing is more modest than I would prefer.
Literally, we're just trying to get a framework to give us to say focus on spending without just
lifting the dent ceiling with no actual structural reforms.
Why could this have been just like a clean CR?
I mean, you know, vote up or down.
just one singular CR. Why all the mess?
Well, it might have been able to be that a few days back, but this monstrosity came up.
It was killed. And then the president said that as a requirement for his blessing or support of a
CR, he needed the debt ceiling increase. Now look, again, I told the president, I've told his
supporters, I've told people my colleagues, I support him in that. But our condition in Congress is that
that has to come with. So a clean CR, great. I would do that to March. But if he has a concern
of not in the debt ceiling, we can't pass a debt ceiling increase now without knowing what the
spending constraints will be in the future. We're coming up with a proposal now to try to tie it
all together with the reconciliation process we get there in January so that we can get comfortable
with what debt ceiling increase might occur in January combined with spending cuts and constraints
in the reconciliation process in January, February, March, April.
like everybody has the same ends, but they have different means to achieve it. So that had to be
kind of disappointing. I would question that, though. Yeah. I would say, Dan, there are some of my
colleagues, with all due respects, who don't. They're not committed to it. They run and kind of get
scared of the corner. And they say, well, we can do this. We'll do mandatory, but they don't want to
touch mandatory until the future. And then they don't really want to get serious about this
discretionary spending. And they kind of accept it as it is what it is. And they talk a big game.
That's why what we're trying to talk about now is important. We're trying to give President Trump the tools to
succeed. We believe that he wants to succeed. Certainly we believe Elon and
Vivette want to succeed, Russ Boat and others. But we've got to create a framework under
which we can operate. Look, we might end up with a clean CR and we and we're
talking about that. But then in what context? What is the agreement on spending? That's
what we're debating right now. How much of this do you like the feet of Mike Johnson?
Look, I think we've got a lot to talk about how we're going to move forward as a conference.
I think Mike has been trying to work in good faith with a very difficult thin majority,
trying to figure out how to get this done with the complexity of the president who have strong
opinions about what we do about the debt ceiling, which, as I've said, I understand it,
and frankly agree with. So I'm going to reserve all my commentary on where we go and all of that
until we get through this moment. You sound more magnanimous towards him now than I've heard he's
been with you in private. I say that again. You sound more magnanimous with him right now than I've
heard he's been with you in private. I, Mike, look, Mike, I don't look backwards. Mike and I
friends. We were working together. He has
been trying to work with groups of us to get
this thing accomplished. We've got a lot
of work to do. We've got things to figure out.
I'm not going to go there. I'm not going to go there with the president.
The president took a shot of me yesterday.
Look, I'm here to save the country.
He called for you to be primaried.
You know, so be it. That's
the way the world works. I'm not worried
about that. Well, let me ask you this.
Do you think that that's inconsistent?
I mean, he's been
harsher towards you than he has a bit
against Mike Johnson, whom a lot of conservatives,
myself blame for this must. Well, putting Mike aside for a minute, the conference is the problem.
Republicans' insatiable desire to spend money while going out and thumping their chest about
fiscal responsibility and balancing the budget is the problem. I understand why the president wants
what he wants. I think he went sideways yesterday in a way that was unfair and not correct
based on what I was trying to do for him and for the conference. But that is what it is. At the end of
the day I get my strength from God, my family, I honor the Constitution and my voters. They sent
me here to not spend more money. They sent me here to secure the border. Yes, a lot of them
send me here to work side by side with President Trump. But I've got a duty under the Constitution
to do what I've got to do. And I'm, I've got a relatively unbendable rule. I'm not lifting
the dead ceiling unless there's actual spending cuts and constraints that are obvious and sitting
there that we're going to do. That's my obligation of the Constitution. We're talking with
Congressman Chip Roy via Skype, and he's been good enough to come on with us. I know he's been
super busy in D.C. You know, you were one of 38 Republicans in the House to vote against this.
And then there are people like Senator Rand Paul, you know, Mike Lee and others that have been pretty
vociferous about this, you know, the debts. I mean, they share your viewpoint. But you have
gotten the biggest brunt of it. Is it because you supported DeSantis in the primary? How much of it
comes back to relitigating the primary? That's a question for the president. What I also think is
if you were willing to leave because you want to achieve an objective.
Like the easiest thing for me to do is just sit back and say, like,
am I know, and just say on the sidelines, show up, trying to force it.
But I'm trying to get in the room and trying to get to an agreement and fix and get things done.
And sometimes that means you're going to take shots from all sides.
I'm okay with that.
But what I'm not going to do is back off of the principles.
I'm not going to not go to the floor and call out my colleagues as I did yesterday
for what they were trying to jam through last night,
which would just continue the spending spree without actual spending constraints.
The president, that's up to him on how he wants to contain that.
I've visited with him.
He knows I support what he's trying to do.
I still support Governor DeSantis.
He's my friend.
I offer no apologies for what I've tried to do in order to advance this country and
Republic.
But, you know, look, I want to support the president and achieve the objectives he wants
to achieve.
I want to get our conference to do their job.
And for once and for all, actually restrain spending.
If we don't, the country's gone.
I want to address, I only got a couple more questions for you.
to address one of the things that I've seen all over social media. I think it's kind of a distraction.
I mean, not kind of. It is a distraction. But I see people bringing up, you know, like your criticism of,
you know, Ken Paxton. And, you know, and I disagreed with you with you on Paxton. I like Ken Paxton.
You don't. We all have our reasons. I'm all about 80, 20 rule. And I've also think you've been a stalwart financial
conservative, fiscal conservative, and you've been strong on gun rights. I'm more concerned right now about
spending us into servitude, which I don't think, you know, criticism of Paxton. You've been, you were critical of
you know, the J6 stuff, but you didn't vote for impeachment.
But I'm, I'm just curious as to why that means we have to forfeit $40 trillion or $4 trillion
in spending and a suspended debt ceiling as like a penance for, for that.
I wanted to get your thoughts on it and, you know, some of the stuff that's been bubbling up
on social media.
Yeah, look, I mean, I look forward.
I don't look backward.
I will take one moment to say, go item by item about the things that people are dredging up
about their differences.
I will tell you that I had a conviction on each and every one of those things that drove me to that place.
There were people that I hired and worked with that were fired by the Attorney General of Texas,
and I disagreed with him on that.
I had a personal reason to stand with some people who I think were good people,
and I thought it was incumbent on me to do that.
I felt honor bound to do that.
No apologies there.
I like Ken.
I like Angela, like his family.
He's not a great job as Attorney General fighting for Texas.
I'm not going to apologize for that. I stood up for what I thought was right. J6. I was adamantly opposed
to what has been happening with the J6 folks. First thing I did out of the gate was call out how they've been
attacked. Thomas Fass and I were the first ones to call out the treatment of the J6 individuals.
But I had a disagreement about the electors. I had a disagreement about the president's push on the
vice president because I don't think the vice president had the constitutional authority to just
unilaterally say, I'm not going to count the electors when he only had 50 slates. Again,
I'm not going to apologize for that.
I can go down the list.
I believe that you should stand up for what is right unapologetically.
And I look, right now, I'm not going to back down on saying,
but I'm not going to lift the debt ceiling without getting spending restraint.
That's it.
And the voters can decide that, but I'm unafraid because the only thing I fear is God
and the only thing that I fear is violating my trust and my honor.
But politics is politics, right?
I don't get my strength from an elected office or an election certificate.
I get my strength from the people.
And you were one of 38, not to, you know, exclude the folks in the Senate, but, you know,
you were one of 38 in the House.
Last quick question for you, Doge Caucus.
Yes, no.
Are you part of it?
I am not, but I'm not a part I think of any caucus except for the Freedom Caucus.
I think maybe the border caucus.
I'm not sure.
I don't like to do all the caucuses, but I'm meeting with Babette, talking to them, working
with them, all the doches up.
Marjorie, I think, at her committee, on oversight, we'll do a,
great job. I'm having to work with the Nose Caucus. I just don't go join on the caucus. I just work with
with people whoever wants to work with me to accomplish stuff. There you go, right there. You are incredibly
consistent. And I mean, the House Freedom Caucus, I tell people, I'm like, you know, the country would be in a
lot worse shape if it wouldn't for the House Freedom Caucus. And that's God's honest truth. Congressman Chip Roy,
you are a stalwart conservative fighter in D.C., and we appreciate that. We appreciate your time. I hope
you have a blessed Christmas and a happy New Year. Thank you, my friend.
You too, Dana. Merry Christmas. You, Chris, your whole family. God bless you. Thanks for the support. But, you know, also just keep sitting here. Hey, I want to save money. I'm tired of my tax dollars going to Ukraine. I know what's up. That's why I am where I am. So I appreciate it. God bless you. Thank you. God bless. We have more to come, folks. As we wrap up this second hour. Stick with us back right after this.
It's his life mission to make bad decisions.
It's time for Florida, man.
All right. So first and foremost, a Florida man crashed into a ditch, blew three times the legal limit, and then offered police just $100 to take him home.
I don't think that's how that works, though. And again, it's Sheriff Grady Judd. Some of them sheriffs down there, I'm going to tell you what, they have very eventful weeks. You know what I mean? So apparently officers arrived, they found a driver crashed into a ditch, okay? Breathlizer said that he was in enhanced
DUI territory. That's when
somebody gets caught with a blood alcohol content of
0.15 or higher. And so
you know, he crashed a car in a ditch. You don't have any idea
where you are. So then the guy
I mean he gave
officers, offered them $100 in cash to just take him home.
And they're like, you know that's another charge, right? You cannot bribe a
cop. That's actually like a criminal
offense. So they
ended up taking him to, he
went to jail, he's in the pokey, and he's
got a slew of charges against him.
no one was killed, but my word. I apologize, Florida Man was short, but actually Florida Man was
pretty well behaved last night. We have a whole third hour on the way next. Pack show. Stick with us.
And that is true. Already seen. Welcome back to the program. Top of this third hour. Dana Lash
here with you. You can listen coast to coast, channel 347, direct TV. Also, Rumble where the discussion
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of the new year. And coming up, we've got band names and apparently more.
Oh, yeah. Things Dana would rather do. I didn't know you guys were making a list, like for real.
Oh, no, Steve's on it. Steve was on it. Matter of fact, how many did you end up with Steve?
I know you got, what is it a 10 that we're going to do later today?
I narrowed it down to 10. I think I had about 25, something like that. Oh, my gosh.
I had 34 band names and narrowed it down to 10. Wow. So that's how 2024 went for us.
Yeah, that was, yeah, 2024. There you go right there. So we got a lot.
to hit. And of course, we've been following this ongoing battle over, you know, the budget,
the CR fight. Needs just to be a clean CR. I'm actually, so if you want to hear my discussion
with Congressman Chip Roy, he was on with me last hour. We'll have that up on YouTube. We'll
send it out on substack, you know, all that jazz. But I was actually, I mean, I actually disagree
with him on the debt ceiling. He's like, no, I think it's good to, I'm like, what? No, no. Because you got
to cut spending. We can't just, and Lorraine made a good point, you can't just slow the rate of growth.
You actually have to, like, I need to borrow Florida man's machete and cut the spending.
By the way, I just reminded myself this. We had a great listener who took a poll yesterday as to how many of our Floridian listeners own machetes.
And you know what the answer was? All of them. All of them own machetes. And they're like, yeah, we got to use them to get through the brush.
And I'm like, in your backyard? Like, do they all live in the swamp? Like, you all, I mean, for real.
everybody has the machete.
I had one sweet woman.
She said that she was 72 years old and she owned two.
One for each hand.
I mean, that's some dedication.
So I got my answer because I always had Florida man stories that involved machetes.
And I jokingly asked, is that a thing?
And we had a great listener out there.
It was like, let's take a poll.
All the Floridians were like, oh yeah, we totally have them.
One guy was like, I moved from Alaska to Florida and brought my machete.
So now I want a machete.
Why don't I have one?
I mean, I have, like, really no brush to get there.
It's all pretty low and, like, you know, dry in Texas.
But you know what I mean, right?
All right.
So I told you that, I mean, we have a government shutdown looming, but Biden still sought
fit to send more billions to Ukraine.
And then, and then he decided, you know, I guess I'm going to go ahead and probably
you're going to have to go ahead and forgive some of the debt for government workers, too.
is that not something else?
This is just wild.
That this is this, I mean, that he's doing it, still doing this.
So it's one of the things we're talking about, right?
Like you, you can't be having, giving all of our money away during a time when government keeps having to spend to pay for all the ways that our government is frittering away money.
See, it makes no sense.
It makes zero sense.
I mean, to say nothing about Social Security and all the other stuff that people have.
you know, been cheated on. This is, it's just, it's so irresponsible, but that's what he's doing.
That's, that's where we are. Now, a couple of other things to touch on, because we have quite a bit still,
and I, I don't even think I've gotten through everything, unfortunately. There's still so, I,
I'm trying to get everything into the last minute here. So the, so we've got the Ukraine funding.
There's the student, or the government debt forgiveness.
So we have that. Yeah, great job. Thanks Biden.
He had, by the way, I wanted to put,
Biden had a, it was a 4.28 billion.
Yeah, that's right.
$4.28 billion.
I wanted to make sure that I had the correct amount
student loan relief for public workers.
So that's for really like government stuff,
law enforcement, et cetera.
They wanted to cancel $4.28 billion in student loan debt
for 55,000 public service workers
as part of their public service loan forgiveness.
They got approved for debt cancellation today.
And I just, I, I, I, it, I got questions about this.
I think when you're talking about student debt, why did they, why did he only do these public service workers like last?
First off, that's the first question that I had, right?
Like, this was the last group that he had issued, and I hate using the word because it's not
it is forgiveness, right? This was the last group. Like everyone else was government, like people who
worked in the White House, he forgave all their loans first, right? Why were these guys last? I mean,
it's another handout. They're trying to do everything possible just to, you know, check all their boxes,
hand out as much as much as they can before the new administration comes into power in January,
before the next session of Congress takes their seats.
he announced it at 5 a.m. this morning, 4 a.m. Central. And so 55,000 public service workers,
you're not canceling anything. You're just making all the rest of us pay for it. That's all it is.
It's a massive loan. It's a massive handout. It's vote buying. I mean, that's what they're rewarding
people for their vote because those are selling on some of the same people that vote for Biden.
So this is just more of the same. Now, speaking of
Democrats. This is a
fantastical headline, Kane. Are you
ready for this one? Oh, boy. Poot
Booty Juice. 2028.
What?
For what?
Oh, for president again.
Get out of here. Totally for reals.
Mm-hmm.
So,
apparently Potthole Pete
is going to make another run.
Oh, for U.S. president.
Well, yeah, what did you think I was talking about?
I didn't think it was even possible.
He was already vice mayor admiral
Admiral of the Canoe Fleet at Camp Wimpy Tonka.
So, you know, he's on an ascendancy trajectory here.
I see it as such an impossibility.
I didn't even think you're talking about America.
But okay, go ahead.
Well, I mean, they made him, you know, Department of Transportation Secretary because, you know, he's gay.
And we've seen it.
So he figured, well, you know, if they gave me that position, why wouldn't they give me this position?
It's like you get a trophy just for being here, right?
Right.
So apparently he's making all of these media appearances.
locally like talk radio and all this stuff and he's like being very receptive to the idea right he's
being very receptive to the idea and people have been asking him about it but he was so bad when he was
mayor of south bend that democrats made fun of him i mean it was a solid democrat area in a sea
of red he could not that was as high as he was going to go as a democrat in indiana which is
why he relocated to michigan now he's you know he thinks that because they were rewarded him so that
they could say they were diverse oh look we've got you know they
act like you're picking, they act like you're picking team members for Dark Tide. Okay, we've got a
siker and we've got an ogren and we have a veteran and we have a zealot. Okay, we've got,
you know, our woman of color, we got the gated, we've got, I mean, it's like that's not how
it works. You know, you're supposed to look at merit. That was a reach, wasn't it? Was that
a reach for a reference?
Kind of. Oh, okay. You know, that's my Christmas card, right? Yeah, I got lazy. I'm like,
you know what? Here's what you got. A screen cap of me and my family couch co-opping is our
characters, Merry Christmas. It's legit
what I sent out. That's actually
what I did. People are not going to know
what it is. I didn't even explain it. I forgot
that I didn't explain it until afterwards.
And so it's just that and it says Merry Christmas.
People are going to have no idea.
Yay!
Can be like, what is this? Weirdo.
But anyway, back to my story
about poop booty shoes here.
He's, yeah, he thinks that
now he hasn't announced to Ron, but come on,
he's flirting with it. He's not ruling it out either.
So, you know, I am all for him doing that because that's hysterical.
Can you imagine him trying to fight it out with Gavin Newsom?
They're going to try to act like, they're going to fight over who is.
And I don't mean this as like a mean thing, but they're going to try to, you know,
their one identity block that they can both grab is, you know, he came up as mayor of San Francisco.
Isn't that kind of considered like the alphabet capital of the world?
Pretty much.
Yeah.
And Pete Booty Juice is going to be like, well, I'm actually, I actually amigated.
And so they're going to fight over while I was the mayor of the gay-dood town.
I'm actually gay-dood.
It's going to be an identity politic off.
I'm here for that.
I am completely okay with that.
Let's go ahead and have it.
Seems, you know.
Did you guys see that Perry Farrell was ranting about Elon Musk?
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Rosa DeLaro.
Yes.
She does look like him.
Yeah.
She was quite upset because this is what I've been telling you about.
the media is hell bent on trying to pin everything on Musk. They think that that's going to shame
Musk from partnering with not even just Republicans, but people who were tired of what Democrats
have been doing for the past, you know, four years. And they want to, they want people to be
fighting over who is perceived to be in power. So she was in, she's from Connecticut. She's been
an office for like ever, right? Forever. Notice however.
Everyone used to make fun of Kirsten Cinema for her eclectic outfits.
No one on the left has ever made fun of Rosa DeLaro.
But she was losing her mind over Elon Musk and saying that, you know, yelling about the government shutdown and all this.
This is audio sound by 13. Listen to this.
Read on a bill.
This is like the worst song ever from James addiction.
And you know what?
They got scared because.
President Musk told them.
President Musk said, don't do it.
Don't do it.
Don't do it. Shut the government down.
Imagine.
It's actually not what he said.
What does he know about what people go through is when the government shuts down?
Are his employees furloughed?
Hell no.
Is he furloughed?
No.
And when you shut the government down,
People don't get paid.
And maybe if none of us got paid.
Why is she trying to do the Southern Baptist preacher speaking technique?
Some people on the other side of the aisle would feel differently.
She's from Connecticut.
This is the worst Jane's Addiction song I've ever seen, Kane.
What album was that on?
That's like the worst video ever.
Been caught stealing.
Just the worst.
As the latest video.
Huh?
Almost as bad as the latest video of Perry Farrell's had a really rough year, right?
I mean, he's there mad in Congress.
He had gotten to a fight.
you know on stage
and then now he's like
in Congress mad about Elon Musk
I mean just a really tough year for Perry Farrell
no apologies to Perry Farrell
I realize how mean that was you know
you don't want to do that to him
we uh
we have a lot more to
hit we've got headlines on the way
I still have a bunch of audio for you as well
because I have look I've got so much audio
where they keep trying to say oh
President Musk president Musk
Musk is the fourth branch of government.
Oh, Musk is, he's the puppet master.
It goes on and on and on and on.
That's the narrative that they want to stick.
They think that that's going to drive division in the inner workings of the transition team and the president elects camp.
I hope no one takes this bait because they are going to push this and push it.
They never had these criticisms with George Soros.
They never had these criticisms with Michael Bloomberg.
They never had these criticisms with Mark Zuckerberg.
They never had him with Warren Buffett.
They never had him with Jeff Bezos.
They never had him with Jack over Twitter originally.
They didn't ever have him with any of the billionaires on the left.
Oh, but now all of a sudden, with Musk, they're upset.
And he's doing even less than what any of the...
He's not funding DA races across the country.
He's not buying elected seats.
Stop it.
And now, all of the news you would probably miss.
It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
All right, all right.
So first up, an American Airlines plane flooded with water mid-flight.
Bewildering the travelers.
That would be kind of freaky, though, right?
I got to say, I'd be a little weirded out.
It was international business times.
Apparently it started in the rear bathroom.
That sounds gross.
I'm just going to say it sounds a little nasty.
It started in the rear bathroom, and then it flooded the plane.
It was during a flight from Dallas to Minneapolis.
water streamed down the aisle.
That's toilet water.
You know that right.
It's poo water.
That's nasty.
They said the inflate movie was Titanic.
They were joking.
So they ended up having to land.
Apparently, there was another flight from Dallas to Madrid in August
where they had an overflowing bathroom and they had to land.
What is with the stuff coming out of doubt?
I mean, I know it's a hub, but my gosh.
I'm a little nervous.
A lickable lollipop invention.
lets you taste in virtual reality.
This looks gross.
It's like a VR experience,
and you can taste in virtual environments.
The interface simulates up to nine flavors
and can be combined with smells
to make the sensation of taste feel lifelike.
Or, now hear me out,
you could just, like, eat a sucker.
I don't want to...
This is...
People are trying so hard to recreate real experiences
in the digital.
when you could just have a real experience, you know.
I wouldn't, I don't get that.
Sidebar.
I hate doing things like in games that are like, that's why I hate fallout.
I hate fallout, sorry, I do.
Because you have to do like basic day-to-day things.
I have to eat, I have to like do laundry.
You don't have to do laundry.
You don't have to do like basic chores.
I don't want to do basic chores in games, right?
I don't want to do that.
That's why I hate this stuff.
Cows fell out of a trailer on a turnpike.
Oh, are they okay?
They were okay.
They went to the ditch and started eating grass and straw, so they were okay.
A seven foot tall, 2025 numerals, those arrived in Times Square ahead of New Year's Eve.
I don't know who would go to Times Square for New Year's Eve.
I don't like massive crowds.
I don't like screaming and all the drunk people.
I could not even imagine being there with the overload from the lights, like a sensory overload.
And then it all sounds like piss and pretzels anyway up there.
And gas.
I just, I couldn't.
I couldn't do it.
That's just like way too much, man.
way too much. And let's see, last but not least. Oh, I think I ran out. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. I got one more.
The Stranger Things final season finally finished filming.
They're all grown up now, basically, right? I don't know what I think about it. No. No, I mean, I liked them as little kids.
As long as they can keep that kits feeling, I think it'll be cool. All right. We're going to do some fun stuff before we wind up the last show of the year. So stick with us. We've got a lot more coming up next.
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Yes, that was wonderful Christmas time by Paul McCartney, a song apparently which half of you out there hate because I get email every single time we play it.
People who are like, I love that song.
And others who are like, why do you play the worst song?
It's not Christmas until that song plays.
So it's played.
So welcome back.
All right.
So we've been heavy into politics.
This is the last show of the year.
We need to ease it on down to Christmasville.
We got to go down and like chill.
Get ready to celebrate the birth of all the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Can I get an amen, Kane?
And Kane is burnt.
What do you got over there?
Tell the folks what you're doing because they can't see your activities.
I'm simply warming.
I'm simply warming frankincense.
So this is what one of the Majai brought Jesus.
One of the three gifts.
We talk about this every year and I'm fascinated because I always tell my kids, Jesus only got three presents.
You ain't better than Jesus.
You get three.
It's all.
And I never, never given him frankincense.
But, you know, I feel like maybe it should, because that's an expensive gift.
That's another other thing I want to talk about.
So let's just get into it because our next guest, Kane, you've known this gentleman for quite
some time.
You,
you, you highly recommend him.
I do.
Yes, our friend John Lanias,
who is in,
he's with Sheehan Wellness,
and he also is the director
of community outreach
for the Special Operations Charity Network.
And they do a lot of really great work,
and we have their URL.
We'll put all that in the bottom.
So he's also like a potions master.
And I've said this before,
but he legit is.
I would actually advertise myself
as that.
And,
And he works with the VA to help veterans because this was a big fight in Congress this year with PTSD and using incense and, you know, other things to help our veterans, maybe a little bit more non-traditional or more traditional, whatever way you look at it.
But he now joins us via Skype.
John is so good to see you.
Thank you for joining us.
Now, set it straight for me because if I were to give my kids some frankincense, they would be like, what is this?
But that's actually a pretty boogie gift.
It was a boogie gift back in the day.
Yeah.
So, frankincense actually is worth more than its weight in gold because it was healing and it would calm the mind.
It would help the body in healing.
And so the fact that Jesus got the gift of frankincense, mer and gold represents a number of things.
Number one, it signifies Jesus as the king of kings.
And so when you give your kids frankincense, you could basically be telling them that they're better than everybody else, if you want, if you want.
I don't know.
They've been pretty, they've been all right this year.
I mean, I've got to think about it.
So it's like the Louis Vuitton of like incense, like frankincense and my, I always wonder if I'm saying that right.
Mur?
Yeah, yeah, that's correct.
Actually, there's 19 different varieties of frankincense.
There's about seven different varieties of mer.
And so each one does a little bit different.
So one of the ones that's considered the finest is Baswalius Sacra, obviously from the Latin sacred.
You've got Ferrera, you've got Socotra, you've got a number of other.
ones, but each one does a little bit different in how it transforms the quality of our consciousness.
And that is exactly what you're tapping into about the VA and the fact that people get PTSD.
So the VA is huge.
Fragrance is huge with that.
I mean, because you can smell something and it takes you somewhere.
Yeah.
Well, what it does is that it accesses the limbic system.
And the limbic system is where we control our emotions and how we regulate and our memory.
And so when the VA talks about 7% of veterans will experience PTSD at some point in their lives,
and that number increases to 29% for veterans of operations Iraqi freedom and enduring freedom,
we actually use fragrance at the Special Operations Charity Network as part of the Find Your Tribe Initiative
to really have people find themselves again before the trauma.
And so the easiest way to explain this is that imagine when you smell your favorite flowers.
or when you smell fresh bread, how it relaxes you, how it recenters you.
So we are taking these programs as a part of the Finder Tribe initiative to empowering our heroes and their families for lasting change.
That's awesome.
We're talking with our friend John Lonius.
I always want to say his name and stress the different syllable.
But he's, I mean, he's a friend of the show, has been for quite some time.
He's super knowledgeable about all of this stuff.
And you can check out the Special Operations Charity Network as well.
we'll have the URL down there and we'll put it up on the video and YouTube as well.
This, because I have a lot of friends who, who were, our combat veterans and they were lobbying Congress too,
whether it was controlled psychedelic uses, which no one's out there advocating for a ready to go and drop acid, you know,
and do all these drugs and that.
But there is, there's a lot of studies that have shown that for those, those vets who really saw some stuff and then had some trouble adjusting when they came
back, that that, even things like this, have all helped them to reaclimate back into, you know,
civilian life. But I don't understand why that's such a fight. Why are so many people seemingly
resistant to that? Is it just because of, you know, the stereotypes? Well, I think it is that.
But it's also that when you talk about people going out and doing a hero dose of psychedelics,
it really does change the brain chemistry. And so, for example, Mark Quinn, our director of
programs nationwide testified in support of this in Missouri. I am not personally advocating
for psychedelics. What I'm saying is that if we are doing the research and when we're doing
this in a controlled way, we can balance both psychedelics and psychotropics. So as a quick
example, psychotropics can be things like alcohol. It can be things like frankincense and basically
all the different things in nature that actually change the quality of our consciousness. And
So, you know, balancing the two of these things and doing this under very strict regulation,
I think is very interesting in that I'm not for anybody just going out into the woods and
eating 10 pounds of mushrooms, but what I am interested in is how can we use this to, again,
to return people back before the trauma.
So some of the work that we do in mindfulness and healthy coping and mental well-being,
these are all part of the programs that we do at the Special Operations Charity Network,
things like fishing programs, cycling programs, competitive shooting programs.
And so if we're looking holistically at how we're able to return ourselves to a state of calmness and centeredness,
this is what we're doing for our veterans and for our heroes that really have made a huge difference
and have seen things that most people never want to talk about or even see ever again.
You just gave me a great segue.
So speaking of things that.
people have seen. So we've been talking about drones for Kane, how long weeks now? And I was
really praying for aliens, John, really praying for aliens. So Kane tells me, and I need to hear
about this story, your grandfather was in World War II. And he saw some stuff, orbs and things.
Yeah, so my grandfather was on the USS Forrester. And they started in the North Atlantic Landing,
but then actually found themselves in the South Pacific. And so I just wrote a book called
Love and Letters in World War II, which I'm looking for a publisher.
But one of the chapters of the book wrote around the fact that my grandfather had tons of
handwritten notes on experiencing orbs in the South Pacific during the war.
And officially, they were allowed to document them.
They were allowed to see them.
They would fly around the ship.
It's exactly what we're seeing today.
Exactly what we're seeing today.
That's wild.
And they were not allowed to fire on them.
unless they attack the ship.
Now, this never happened.
But here's what's interesting,
is that we have seen this same phenomenon
going back all the way,
even to World War I and before.
Now, obviously, the further back we go,
you know, the reports get a little strange,
but I wish my book was out right now
because he's describing things better
than I think anyone's able to describe them now,
even with their cell phone cameras.
Wow. And what's amazing to me
is that you're saying it's the exact same
thing now as what they saw in World War II. And there are so many accounts of that. That's,
so that, that's almost like an unchanging technology. It was so strange to us back that we had
nowhere near that capability back in World War II. We still technically don't really now,
especially for some of the stuff that just goes from the, from the sky right to the sea.
That's wild. That, to me, that's really hard to explain. You back then and, you know, when your
grandfather was in the military, you can't really say, oh, that's just our government.
We didn't have that cap. No government had that capability at the time.
Right. Well, and also the fact that they were, I mean, they were isolated. I mean, they're in the South Pacific, like not near shore. And they're seeing these things and they're documenting them. And it's not just him. I mean, I've got notes from his other shipmates. And so it's just very interesting about what's happening in that do we know what's going on? Do we not know what's going on? Is this something that's been with us for thousands of years? I mean, when you talk about,
ancient aliens, you know, I know you love that, but here's the question.
You know, is this a phenomenon that's been a part of Earth forever and we're now just seeing
it?
Are these actual, you know, intelligences?
So who knows?
But again, I think what's important to take from this is that is the fact that this isn't
a new phenomenon.
This is something that goes back thousands of years and could it be ancient aliens?
Maybe. Could it be something else? Probably. Who knows?
They seem very courteous. If it is ancient aliens and they're just staying out of our business,
that's a very courteous thing to do, right? It feels like they're not malevolent in that way.
Right. Well, so what we've done is that we've taken military psychedelics and orbs and put them all into a thing around Christmas.
I love it. We've got the bright lights. We've got things.
God bless America. I love it. Merry Christmas. This is great.
I have to say before I let you go, John, I can small.
the frankincense. I always, you always think that incense is supposed to, like it's going to smell
hippie-ish. It smells like soap. Like it smells like somebody just took a nice bath. It's like a nice
powdery kind of. Yeah, it's like, it's almost like a perfume house, like nice powder
perfume. That's what it smells like, right? It's very nice. I mean, it's, it's beautiful. And it,
and it totally calms you, which which I, which I believe connects you to the divine. And so
speaking of divine, I've got a free gift for any of your listeners.
who reaches out to shihonwellness.com and sends me a note. Also, if you go to speckopschherty.com,
that's speckopcharity.com, learn more about the special operations charity network, all of our
programs, and we invite you to donate and really be a part of our huge programs in 2025,
because we're out to make a huge positive difference for our veterans.
Love what it is that you all do. And we got the Shihon Wellness right there as well.
John, we so appreciate you coming on and you sharing your insight with us every year.
you do such a great job.
And I know, and by the way, they're also on Twitter.
So it's actually on wellness on Twitter as well.
John Lonnius, always so good to see you, my friend.
God bless you.
Merry Christmas to you.
Thank you so much.
You're giving us some of your time today.
And your expertise.
That's always so insightful.
Thank you, Dan.
Merry Christmas.
Have a great new year.
Thank you.
We have more to come, folks, as we wrap up this third hour, because we have band names.
Yeah.
And Stephen Kane apparently got tired of hearing me say things I would rather do.
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You know, I mean, you get the bells in there, you get that beat in there.
Welcome back.
All right, last show of the year.
So we have a tradition in what we do.
we always come up with band names every year, as you know.
Just random, different, everyday things that, you know, stick out to us.
And we're like, you know, that actually would be a great band name.
And this year's list is pretty exceptional, I got to say.
So, Kane first, we got two things for you.
First, I'm going to hand it over to you.
Top 10 fictional band names.
That is correct.
And then we will go to.
Steve has compiled this because I think it was Steve that really drove this, to be honest with you.
because you often are not happy with how things are,
and you would then tell us what you would rather do instead of those things.
So that's going to be an interesting list,
which is going to come up after this.
But, of course, we do have the drum rolls, don't we see?
All right.
I got a real one.
I got a real one.
Oh, wow.
All right, cut 10.
Number 10 of these, by the way,
top 10 fictional band names mentioned on the Danish show inadvertently in 2024.
Suicide pod.
Suicide pot.
Sounds like an excess song.
Suicide pa.
I'd go see him.
Dirty burglar.
That sounds.
Dirty burglars.
Dirty burglars.
Number eight.
Hillbilly Hessions.
I love that one.
Hillbilly Hesians.
I can just imagine seeing these people on stage.
It's like a bluegrass cover of German songs.
Go ahead.
Number seven, hippo permission.
Okay.
Hippo permission.
Yeah.
Number six, murder puppies.
I love it.
It's like, it's like, uh, meat,
puppets, but with a murder.
Exactly.
Murder puppies.
Number five, alpha brats.
That's so good.
Alpha brats.
It's like an electro DJ band.
It's the voice of a new generation.
Yeah.
Number four, gasoline enema.
It's like a Kentucky headhunter cover band.
Love it.
Gasoline Enema.
Could have been a song, but a great band.
Number three, junkyard gaiters.
Yeah.
Remember that story.
A skinnered cover band.
Woo!
We had about Florida.
Oh, yeah.
Number two, aggressive baptism.
Ooh, that's like a Prague hymn.
Aggressive baptism.
And number one, the top 10 fictional band names of the Danish show in the year
2024.
Is?
Space murder.
Space murder.
And there it is, ladies and gentlemen.
All those names.
For keeping track of all of this.
We're mentioned on the Danish show during the live broadcast in 2024.
All right. Steve, real quick, because we get run out of time.
Explain what this is and get, oh my gosh.
All right, so we try to suggest things as producers on the show for us to bring up her cuts to run.
And sometimes Dana doesn't want to do it.
And she would rather do these things instead.
So we'll run this real quick.
Things Dana would rather do, number 10, talk about how Space Marines is a three-player co-op.
Number nine, feed myself into a wood chipper.
That's number nine.
Number eight, drag down a gravel road.
That's number eight.
Number seven, where's someone else's crocks instead of her own?
Number six, shot out of a cannon into space.
Oh, man.
Top ten have crappy gas station sushi.
Oh, man.
Number four, have someone sell hermuth.
Number three, choke to death on the hustlers of dead cicadas.
Oh, my gosh.
Number two, talk about video games and anime and grilling meat.
Oh, my gosh.
And the number one thing you would rather do, gouge your eyes out with flu-ridden toothpicks.
So there we go.
Those things you actually said, by the way.
You said all things.
I believe it.
We're very passionate here in the program.
Your mouth.
Those were your words.
Yeah, those were, yeah.
I remember the husks of dead cicadas because I think you almost actually barved over there.
Yeah, you almost spewed, man.
It was rough.
All right, real quick, with the time we have left, I want to thank you guys for supporting
us throughout this year.
I mean, we love hanging out with you.
We do it because we love what we do, but we also love just talking with all of you guys
every single day.
And so I so appreciate your friends.
fellowship and I appreciate your trust and I appreciate your company every single day.
We're grateful for you for Juan, for Kane, for Steve, for everybody that's associated with
the show as well, Radio America.
The first, we're grateful for you all.
Thank you guys for making the show such a success and we've got a lot of stuff coming up for
you in the new year.
Also, big thanks to Lorraine for the chat and everything else.
Everybody associated with the show, God love you.
Merry Christmas.
Have a happy new year.
I'm going to be back behind the mic with you come January.
Yes, God bless, guys.
