The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Elon GHOSTS Speaker Johnson, FBI FOILS Chinese Plot to POISON U.S. & David Mamet Joins Us

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

Speaker Mike Johnson gets ghosted by Elon Musk after Musk blasts the Big, Beautiful Bill. Eric Swalwell says he is proud that Republicans make fun of him for sleeping with a Chinese spy. Defense Sec. ...Pete Hegseth is removing groomer and pedophile Harvey Milk’s name from a US Naval ship. The FBI halted a plot by Chinese nationals to smuggle an 'agroterrorism agent' into the US to wipe out our food supply. An ICE raid took place in Minneapolis and liberals were there screaming and losing their mind. Chuck Schumer renames the Big, Beautiful Bill as the “Were All Going To Die Act”. Hakeem Jeffries promises that masked ICE agents will be identified as ICE disguised as utility workers from Tucson Electric Power. American Playwright and Author David Mamet joins us to discuss why Democrats have LOST young men, the rise in anti-Semitism among young people and his latest work. The Big, Beautiful Bill would add $2.4 trillion to federal budget deficits over 10 years, a Congressional Budget Office analysis found. Rep. Rich McCormick joins us to discuss the Big Beautiful Bill's AI carve out restricting States from regulating for 10 years.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Ruff Greenshttps://ruffgreens.com/danaJumpstart your pet’s health with a FREE bag from Ruff Greens. Just cover shipping. Use promo code DANA today!Relief Factorhttps://relieffactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Goldcohttps://DanaLikesGold.com Protect your financial future with my trusted gold company—get your GoldCo 2025 Gold & Silver Kit today, and you could qualify for up to 10% in bonus silver.Byrnahttps://byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana receive 10% off. Patriot Mobilehttps://patriotmobile.com/DanaDana’s personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANA.HumanNFind both the new SuperBerine and the #1 bestselling SuperBeets Heart Chews at Sam’s Club!KelTechttps://KelTecWeapons.comSee the third generation of the iconic SUB2000 and the NEW PS57 - KelTec Innovation & Performance at its bestAll Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/DanaCode Dana20 for 20% off your entire order.Angel Studioshttps://Angel.com/danaStream King of Kings, check out fan-picked shows, and claim your member perks.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What do you think changed? Why do you think he's coming out against us now? And have you spoken to the president and Elon since the infamous? Well, I'll tell you, I called Elon last night and he didn't answer. But I hope to talk to him today. I mean, it's not, you know, it's very friendly, and we can, and we've laughed about our differences on policy before. Have you, though? That was kind of, that was a little catty while I called and he didn't answer. I mean, he does have a million kids. Can you imagine what bath time's like? I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:00:30 But still, I thought that was kind of interesting. We're like, oh, I needed an answer. That was Mike Johnson yesterday talking about Elon Musk and the fight that's breaking out kind of between everybody with regards to the big, beautiful bill and the rescissions package, too. And the fallout, if there is fallout, if there is fallout from it,
Starting point is 00:00:59 Because I think that the criticisms that Musk had yesterday were legitimate. And I, instead of telling someone that they don't know what they're talking about, which I think is really ignorant and false. And I think that that's the last refuge of people who cannot explain this, the bill. I think that people need to hear the criticisms of the voters and go accordingly. because this idea that, well, you know, he just doesn't know how this work. He's not talking about, first off, the idea that you couldn't reduce spending, and that bill is such a crock of pig feces. I am so damn tired of these ass and I lawmakers telling me the same yarn over and over again.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I get really pissed off over this stuff, and I can imagine you all do as well. I'm so tired of it. My gosh, tax two blinking death. And I got these people telling us, well, we can't really cut anymore from it. That's a lie. and we know it's a lie. That's emphatically not true. But furthermore, why is the recisions package so tiny whiny?
Starting point is 00:02:08 That's the other thing. I mean, you're talking about the difference between, I think, what was it? They said, what number was it that I gave? 170-something billion, I think. And then they, and now we got $9 billion. And they wanted the $385 billion in stock. Alt offset by $9 billion. That's a show game, y'all.
Starting point is 00:02:32 That's what that's called. So, welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the first hour. We've got an interesting show for you today. We've got David Mamet. It's going to be on later. And you should watch him.
Starting point is 00:02:44 He's got a book out. But I think that he is, I think he's probably the greatest, one of the greatest living screenwriters. And I think he is the probably greatest to write dialogue of our generation, of any generation. He is phenomenal. He changed the game. If you like Taylor Sheridan, if you like Guy Ritchie, if you like Quint Tarantino, if you like,
Starting point is 00:03:08 I mean, gosh, where do I, where do I start? Everything's comparable. You love David Mamet. You loved his Chicago way scene from the untouchables. I mean, there's so much. So we're going to, he's going to be on a little bit later. And also, we're going to get into a portion of the bill that specifically relates to AI, the big beautiful bill. And we're going to talk to Georgia Representative Rich McCormick on that because there's a section of this bill that a lot of people including myself are concerned about because it seems to strip away the ability for states to manage and deal with AI on their own independently. And I get a little worried about that kind of stuff. So we got all
Starting point is 00:03:55 that coming and more. But to start with the Bing Beautiful Bell, Big Beautiful Bell. So it's in the Senate. Everybody's fighting. It's in the Senate. Everybody's fighting. And I got a question.
Starting point is 00:04:12 How many, let me start out by this. Can't let me ask you this. How many people in Congress do you think are involved in insider trading? Oh, good Lord. I mean, technically, they all have the potential. So I don't really know for sure. But if you look at the top 10, I would say there's, that's pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:04:35 So I would say at least the top 10 that rank look as though they've been harvesting a little info from government work. A lot, yeah. I mean, it's a lot because you've got a lot of these lawmakers that go in with, you know, a minimum amount, not a minimum, but a smaller amount in their bank account. and then they're there, and they end up millions of dollars richer. Now, you're probably like, well, where are you asking that, Dana, as it relates to the Big Beautiful Bell? Well, there's a reason why I'm asking that. Because of some of the comments that took place yesterday, and I addressed some of them. I addressed some of them that were on X specifically.
Starting point is 00:05:15 So, for instance, I saw, let me pull this up. I'm trying to figure out, I saw this yesterday, it was Marjorie Taylor Green. Green. And Marjorie Taylor Green had tweeted about the portion of the bill that I actually just mentioned, the pages 278, 279, where states can't regulate AI for a decade. And she tweeted, full transparency. I did not know about this section on pages 278, 279 of the OBBB, that's the one big, beautiful bill, that strips states of the right to make laws or regulate AI for 10 years. I'm adamantly opposed to this. It's a violation
Starting point is 00:05:55 of state's rights. And I would have voted no if I had known this was in there. And then she talked about how it needs to be stripped out of the Senate, etc., etc. Hmm. Maybe she should have read the bill instead of tweeting about, oh, I don't know, for some bizarre reason, May 21st, right, when they were
Starting point is 00:06:13 passing it, she was yelling and screaming about DeSantis. And, hey, for some reason, I have no idea why. she she said uh every no on trump's big beautiful bill is from the freedom caucus and they were an art of santa supporters and one was niki haley oh my gosh maybe she should have i don't know read the damn bill instead of running her mouth on on x maybe i mean look if you can read the memos and the proposals within the white house about things that could affect stocks I'm just saying if you can read that to help you with insider trading, you sure as hell can read a bill.
Starting point is 00:06:57 You can read the bill. I think that's a kind of a big point. You can read the bill then. And I made this point online as well. If you can read proposals that influence your insider trading, you can read a damn bill. And the reason I bring this up is because that lady walked in with what, 700,000. I mean, that's what was reported. That's per Newsweek. And she apparently made $22 million. I honestly think she's wasted in Congress. Hell, if you can make that kind of money out of $700,000, this woman needs to be on Wall Street. I'm just saying, this is what Newsweek's been reporting. People say that it's absurd. But what's factual is that her net worth balloon from $700,000 before taking office to, as she's an estimated $22 million right now. And that's because of all the financial disclosure. they have to file. Her base salary is a member of Congress is $174,000. So she's either like a genius
Starting point is 00:07:58 at trading or she's getting, you know, she's doing insider stuff that everybody else were going to jail for. It's one or the other. I kind of think, especially especially considering her outburst about the bill, I kind of think it's the latter. Hmm. Now, it's Republicans and Democrats to do it. And this is what angers me so badly. All of these people do this. You're telling me that you can't read. And it was, yes, it was a thousand pages.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yes, it takes a couple of days to read. That's why you have a staff. If you're out on X writing diatribs on X, if you're reading all these memos pertaining to insider training, you can read the bill. I don't think there's any excuse at all whatsoever. There's no excuse.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And the financial disclosures, by the way, those are indisputable. Like I said, that's something that's filed that they have to file publicly. So I'm just, I think you could have read the bill. We were talking, how long ago were we talking about this? I know I was tweeting about it over a week ago. And I know that we were talking about it on air about that time. It's been a while. So it's not like, and I know other individuals have been talking about it too.
Starting point is 00:09:15 so it's not like, you know, this was a surprise. It's, I don't know how, how that at all takes, you know, I don't know how that surprise, that would surprise anybody that this would be in the bill. Now, Mike Johnson can disagree with Elon Musk on this bill all he wants to. And I responded to something Stephen Miller had said. And I hope, by the way, that we are all cool enough and smart enough to really, realize that asking questions of members of government about things that affect our taxes isn't an attack, et cetera, et cetera. But Stephen Miller's been talking quite a bit. He's been kind of going
Starting point is 00:09:57 after the libertarians a little bit. And Elon Musk specifically, he was saying that there's a lot of confusion with the bill spending versus tax cuts. And I think that it's a deflection. It's a Mont Bailey, what he's doing. He's trying to say that people are claiming that tax cuts increase the deficit. I don't think anybody's saying that. I think we're all claiming that it's the ridiculous refusal to cut or reduce spending at all that are increasing. I mean, we're literally still spending at COVID levels and I don't understand why that is. And no one, no one, including Stephen Miller, can explain it. And I think it's great if you can go on Sean Hannity show and flex all the time. But when you can't answer simple questions like this, I mean, it really kind of makes
Starting point is 00:10:37 everything else seem irrelevant. Why are we spending at this, at that level? Why are we spending literally at 2020, 2020, levels. That does not make any sense to me. And I think it's it's, and when it's funding, it's still funding the government. It's still funding a lot of
Starting point is 00:10:58 the green news scheme. It's still doing all of those things. And there are a lot of other procedural tricks that members of Congress can do to get around some of this. And yes, it's reconciliation. I get all of these deflections that a lot of the big GOP establishment throw out is defense for Bush ERIS. spending. I get that. But it's also a shell game. So for instance, to my point with the Stephen
Starting point is 00:11:20 Miller thing, he was saying that, you know, when a libertarian like Rand attacks the deficit impact of the bill, they're attacking the tax cut. That is such a Mott Bailey argument. They're not attacking the tax cut. They're attacking the spending. Furthermore, and not any point has Stephen Miller ever addressed why these tax cuts are all only temporary. You don't have to take my word for it. I literally linked the damn bill, told you how to go through. through the bill using Control F and read it all for yourself. I did, and it didn't take me days. It took me literally under an hour. You can see that they are all temporary. Why are they temporary? They all expire in 2028. And so pretending that people are attacking taxes as a way to say that that
Starting point is 00:12:06 costs is a great dodge from explaining why they're all temporary and they all expire in 2028. we're it's a bait and switch again and I just don't these remedial debate tactics to try to deter people and throw them off of the real question it's not going to work so this idea of there's going to be a major cut in taxes is a lie it's you're not getting a major tax cut extending what we had in 2017, if that's what it was, if that's what was happening permanently, extending that isn't a tax cut. That's an extension of status quo. Cutting taxes further than that would be a tax cut. The tax, no tax on tips, that expires in 2028. The increased deductions, that expires in 2028 with, with regards to manufacturing, all of the, I mean, that all expires in 2028.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I wrote about this. I copied and pasted it from the literal bill. And after every single one of these, temporarily, temporarily, temporarily, expires 2028, expires 2028, expires 2028, expires 2028, every single one. So we can do this remedial Motte Bailey BS as a time-waster, but that's not going to deter people who know what the real issue is from asking legitimate questions. And I got to tell you, too, as patriots, never be so far up your government's ass that you're afraid to ask legitimate questions about what happens to your livelihoods. We've got a lot more on the way. We've got headlines coming up as we move. Our partners that help bring you the program,
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Starting point is 00:15:07 doge cuts. Are they totally insulting our intelligence? Check out the watchdog on Wall Street podcast on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five. I think I would rather have a woman driver than a driverless taxi. Yeah. Like, you know how, what's the thing that the feminists were saying, like, pick a bear or a man in the woods. And I'm like, really, as long as I don't have another feminist in the woods or meet a feminist in the woods, it's fine. Driverless taxis are reacting like humans on San Francisco streets. I don't like any of this. The chilling development was identified by University of San Francisco engineering professor William Riggs. He's been studying the
Starting point is 00:15:51 Waymo cars since their inception, and it was on a journey with a reporter from the San Francisco Chronicle. They noticed that the Waymo they were in to a rolling start at a pedestrian and crossing before the person reached the other footpath. They said the subtle movement was reminiscent of the way humans act behind the wheel, and it was a strange occurrence for the robotic Waymo. I think that's kind of an over assumption with that. I mean, they're mimicking human behavior. It doesn't mean that they're doing it like humans because they're sentient.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Jiminy Christmas. Are they high on their own supply over there? Of course they are at San Francisco. But, yeah, I would just speed up, you know. Two Chinese nationals were charged with smuggling potential agro-terrorism fungus in the U.S. Hang them. That's what the DOJ says. We'll talk more about this, though.
Starting point is 00:16:39 They said that they were smote, I can't even pronounce this. Fusrarium gram-e-mer-m... I don't care. That sounds right. Dangerous gross stuff. We're going to come back. It's its own segment. Don't worry.
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Starting point is 00:18:33 What is he wearing? Like, I would hope that would be enough. But, like, in a disinformation society, like, I recognize that it's everyone on the rights favorite meme. My wife tells me all the time, you know what? The second, they're not going after you, you're not affected. And so I wear it as a badge of honor that these guys would want to lie about me all the time. You tell your wife that you wear it like a badge of honor that you banged a Chinese spy. I mean, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Is that supposed to be a flex? I don't know. What is he wearing that hat for? It's like watching somebody cosplay. It's like watching someone who's never cooked try to use, like try to cut vegetables. You know, and you're like, oh, whenever I see people like Eric Swalwell dress what they think is like the every man, I have the same, oh, the same response. It's true, isn't it? It looked like they pulled that hat out of the prize clause.
Starting point is 00:19:26 it from the radio station that Charlemagne works for. Exactly. Let's put this on. It makes you look normal. That's what they did. Eric Swallow Swalwell. It's a verbal typone. It stays. Why is he so salty? I mean, you're in Congress. You're never ever going to probably
Starting point is 00:19:42 lose your seat because it's California. They don't care. They really don't care who represents them. I mean, I think that they would probably, you know, send to D.C. a crack addict's feces if they could and just like, you know, representative feet. I'm sure they would. It's California.
Starting point is 00:19:58 So, yeah, he said that he's proud that they make fun of him for being in a Chinese spy. I guess that's his definition of patriotism. Ooh, speaking of California. So let me go back to the story that I had. Here we go. I had this. This is also in your headlines. I'm trying to remember how I put it in the headlines for your radio prep today.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Oh, the Navy is mulling over new names for ships that replace stupid. names for ships, named after people with no association to the Navy. So the Navy is going to rename the Harvey Milk Ship. And here's how Lefty cites, right, Huggseth orders the Navy to strip name. He's not, they're renaming it. It is the, uh, it was the office of the secretary of the Navy, the official who holds the power to name the ships, showed that they had come up with rollout plans. They're renaming the Oilership, the USNS, Harvey Milk. And you guys, you guys know Harvey Milk. He was basically, he's a pedophile. He dated a 16-year-old boy. Harvey Milk also praised the Reverend Jim Jones. And in fact, in 1978, he wrote a letter to Jim Akata,
Starting point is 00:21:15 where he was defending Jones. And he was opposing this custody fight between this guy and his wife, Timothy Stone was the, he was trying to get his six-year-old son, John, who apparently was living there in Jonestown. And Harvey Milk wrote a letter to Jimmy Carter opposing that custody effort. He wanted to keep John at Jonestown. And John was amongst the 900 or so people who were killed in murder suicide there a year later. And this is what Harvey Milk wrote at the time, quote, Reverend Jones is widely known in the minority communities here and elsewhere as a man of the highest character, and he's undertaken constructive remedies for social problems, which have been amazing in their scope and effectiveness. He's also highly regarded amongst the church, labor, and civil civic leaders of a wide range of political persuasions.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So he says that Timothy and Grace Stone, they're attempting to damage the reverence reputation. So anyway, just to let you know. And Harvey Milk is, he's got issues. I mean, he had issues. The 16-year-old was just amongst them. He prayed on Jack McKinley when Milk was 33 and McKinley was 16. I mean, there's a lot there. There's nobody had any business naming a ship after this twink.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Nobody did. And so they're stripping him. They're stripping the ship of that name. Thankfully, golly, I'm shocked that the ship didn't sink or something like that. How is that not bad luck? so they so that's that was good news to hear that they said that they confirmed
Starting point is 00:22:51 it was making preparations that it was brought on by Hegseth and that the timing of the announcement during Pride Month was intentional good and and they're also going to target other ships I just why are you naming
Starting point is 00:23:07 ships after people that had nothing to do with the military or like ships right it doesn't make any sense so they had like the USNS Ruth Bader Ginsburg seriously come on I don't know so they they're renaming them
Starting point is 00:23:28 maybe we can have like some you know better names than some of these I don't get it but I just why were we doing that in the first place what was the point of that the left is so performative yes as Kane said yes the left wants to
Starting point is 00:23:44 wants to tear down all the statues. Well, this is just, you know, we're returning the favor. That's all we're doing. We're returning the favor and restoring some dignity to these vessels. So that was, that's a good to see. I mean, yes, I know we could, you know, maybe I'd like to see the Pentagon, the DOD, spend taxpayer dollars better, but, you know, we'll see how it goes. In the meantime, this, a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:24:12 these researchers, let me pull this up because this is what we were talking about during headlines. These Chinese nationals that were charged were smuggling agro-terrorism, an agent into the U.S. They said it was a direct threat. They were studying to the University of Michigan labs.
Starting point is 00:24:30 The FBI director, Cash Patel, said that these two nationals, they were charged with smuggling a dangerous biological pathogen. They wanted to study it at the University of Michigan, Kamsay. And it, I mean, obviously, that's a serious threat. They said that, yeah, they're, the CCP's continuing to deploy operatives and researchers to infiltrate institutions and target food supply.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And then, I mean, it really could. I mean, that's, there's a reason why customs is so crazy about, you know, food and animals and seeds and stuff. It was a fungus called fusarerarium, gramarium. I don't know. It's basically what's defined as a potential agro-terrorism weapon. And they said it causes head blight, a disease of weed, barley, maize, and rice, and is responsible for billions of dollars in economic losses worldwide each year. And the toxins also cause vomiting, liver damage, and reproductive defects in humans and livestock.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And the criminal complaint, one of the researchers, 33 years old, received Chinese government funding for work on the pathogen in China, and that they describe her membership, you have to be in good standing in the CCP to be able to go back and forth like that. The other individual lied about smuggling it in. He brought it into the Detroit Metropolitan Airport, you know, because if you were all up on the above, you know, in the up and up, and you were going to bring in something like this and study it, yeah, you definitely smuggle it in and try to avoid border protection and customs, that's exactly what you do. You know, if you're on the up and up, that's the first
Starting point is 00:26:11 thing you're going to do is sneak it into the country, right? It's ass and I. Nobody believes that. So, yeah, I think they should be put to death. You're, you're, uh, I mean, you, you, you committed an egregious violation of U.S.
Starting point is 00:26:27 law. I think that we coddle these, I think we coddle these people. This is again, another example of the CCP, presenting a grave national security concern to the United States. I mean, tell me I'm wrong. I think death penalty for these two. Send their remains to China.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I mean, why not? It's so dumb with this. How long has China been doing this? Can you imagine if something like that were to get? Yeah, they brought it in to study it. That's why they snuck it through and lied about sneaking it in and took great precautions to conceal it from Customs and Border Patrol. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I mean, it's a very harmful biological material. And so they obviously are detained. and I guess we'll wait and see they're, they announced, I think they announced these charges yesterday. What did you say? We wonder why our bread is horrible here. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's not only the stuff that they spray on for pesticides and things like that, but how do we know this hasn't happened before? How do we know that none of this stuff is already in the country already affecting our food supply? How do we know that? Well, they discovered, so in 2024 of last year, one of them was turned away at the Detroit airport.
Starting point is 00:27:37 sent back to China because he kept changing his story when he was being interrogated about red plant material that they found in his backpack. And he was lying about it. And he apparently was exchanging some pretty damaging messages with the partner there on his phone. But they said they found a scientific article on his phone titled Plant Pathogen Warfare Under Changing Climate Conditions. And they both neither of them could keep their story straight and the other thing too is if you're going to claim that you are going to study a tightly controlled pathogen that's monitored by USDA and Homeland Defense and all this stuff because of the damage that it could do to crops, livestock and humans, that you would lie and claim that you are going to study it at a university
Starting point is 00:28:34 that has the federal permit to handle it because apparently in order to handle this type of pathogen to study it you have to have a specific actually several specific federal permits to handle it and apparently the University of Michigan does not so not only did they hide it but then they lied and said that they were going to go and study it at a university that doesn't have the the actual physical capability to contain it, and nor the permits granted to it to actually handle it. So yeah, they're terrorists. This was an act, a hostile act by the CCP. They should be put to death. I mean, and they, and immediately, and they were described as two aliens presenting the gravest national security concern
Starting point is 00:29:31 according to charging docs. But yeah, we don't have an extradition extradition treaty with China. So I think one of them did. There was another one apparently that did get away, but he's not going to get arrested unless he comes back to the United States.
Starting point is 00:29:47 So that's probably never going to happen. But yeah, it makes all the sense in the world. They're really bad spies. Think about this. For all the talk about the CCP being you know, so, you know, I guess, suave and so good at spying. This is really bad.
Starting point is 00:30:07 This is like some JV stuff. Like you can't even, you can't keep your story straight under interrogation. And then you can't even provide yourself with a good enough cover story and select a university that actually has the capability and the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:30:25 permittance to handle this stuff. I mean, that's just like, Their spies suck. How are we getting duped by China? I mean, they sent a giant goofy bloop bloop bloop balloon over here. And we're like, oh, really? Like, how are we getting dup by them? I mean, it's like a third, it's a third world nation.
Starting point is 00:30:45 It is. Stop looking at the photos and the propaganda. Come on. This is, I don't know. Am I, I'm just shocked that anyone was even remotely fooled. And the fact that they had them in like little baggies in their backpack, I don't know how this pathogen is set to be contained, but cane, baggies are not, you know, the gold standard for sealing off things. No, no. Pathogens or anything. Yeah, you don't want to just put it in a Ziploc. No, that's what they did. Not even kidding. Not even. I mean, I think they were in like, I was looking at the photos, like a Ziploc maybe in a zip lock.
Starting point is 00:31:23 they uh you mean like an old school sandwich bag they used let me let me let me let me share yeah yeah yeah like legit like a snack bag or something it looks like a little snack bag. Oh yeah. Those are the little baggies they had a little bitty baggies and they had those in their backpacks like how was that not all over to you dude that's not
Starting point is 00:31:42 Nothing's contained in that no Walking through the airports with that in their backpacks you know Durp Dirk just another day Another day in China my gosh. Well, no wonder they eat bats. Just saying. The WooFlu, Caltech's Gen 3, sub 2K, which they rolled out with just, just a month ago. And it's another game changer from Keltec, which always makes really cool stuff. Incredibly neat stuff. Great quality. I mean, it's American parts, American labor, and everything is made right here in the U.S.
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Starting point is 00:33:23 United States. Just press it. Just press the gas puddle and go. I think if you're going to be stupid enough to stand in front of checks notes, a van, then you're probably going to check's notes. Get your A double snakes run over. Who does that stuff? Stop being stupid. Stop being Stupid. Stop tempting Darwin's rule of natural selection. Gemini Christmas. Shame on you. For what? Exercising the law? shame on you for what stay out of the roads unless you want to get run over that literally was my grandfather's words of advice they all need to take it
Starting point is 00:34:15 if you don't want to get run over here's a genius thought stay out the roads keep the roads off your feet instead of keep my name at your mat keep my road keep the roads off your feet how about that good night and doing that that's like battery and assault and probably a whole bunch of other stuff that's not going to get prosecuted because
Starting point is 00:34:34 I'm sure it's in a blank hole city where they have a Soros prosecutor that's not going to do a singular damn thing, correct? Correct. Yeah, there you go. There it is. They're not going to do nothing. I just, you know, I think that we need to have greater penalties. I think there needs to be harsher penalties for businesses, too, that employ legal labor. I really do.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I think that there needs to be harsher penalties. Well, we first need to start with enforcing the laws that actually exist and are on the book. Because this isn't going to change unless you make it hurt for the people that enable it. and let's be real there's a reason why that people are coming over the border and yes it's you know because you have people like Biden
Starting point is 00:35:11 and Democrats that offer handouts but also you have some businesses there too and boy they pretend like they're Republicans all day long along with some of those other Republicans in the chamber and commerce and all that stuff oh yeah but then when push comes to shove on issues like this
Starting point is 00:35:25 well then the truth counts right that's how it is so coming up in our second hour we have a lot to hit the latest on that bill. We got China. And then David Mamet's going to join us. I love David Mamet. He's a genius writer. We're going to talk with him. He's got a new book out. And also, he went to war. Well, he had some harsh words for progressives. And I think with all the talk of
Starting point is 00:35:49 toxic masculinity and Democrats, now they've got the findings of their studies on dudes, by the way. We're going to share that coming up. I think Mamet culturally is a guy who really gets, he gets dudes. I mean, that's kind of what his writing is a lot of it's about. So we're going to talk about that and more coming up. Stick with us. Think about the last movie that you saw that inspired you and kept you thinking long after the credits rolled. Movies have the power to change individuals, communities, and culture. And that's why I'm telling you about Angel Studios. This is the studio that had the courage to bring the world the sound of freedom. So how can you be part of it? Well, you can join the Angel Guild. King of Kings, an animated story about the life of Jesus is now
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Starting point is 00:37:02 That's angel.com slash Dana. And we all know one thing. Donald Trump is just lying about the bill. Lying about the bill. Why is he bent over like a cocktail shrimp? Here's the, we are all going to die act. What? I'm too tired for this.
Starting point is 00:37:21 It's Wednesday. Weather's bad. Sinus problems. To just not dealing with Chuck Scho. Well, first off, he's bent over like a Warner Brothers character, like a vaudeville villain. Why? Number two, they spent money.
Starting point is 00:37:35 That's taxpayer money that they spent to print that stupid little thing up. And number three, I think it's a trash bill, but it's not that we're going to die act. Only will Democrats spend not bleeding the public drive of their hard-earned dollars as death, like for them. This is so stupid. I mean, this is your guy's fault. You guys spent us all into oblivion. And you got some Republicans in Congress that they want to continue it. good night. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. And we are at the top of the second hour here, getting into all of this stuff. I, um, it's, there's two things that are happening. You have the recisions package that POTUS is, uh, proposing. And it's a small like nine something billion dollar rescissions package to get some to get some things back from NPR.
Starting point is 00:38:32 and some of the other stuff. As you guys know, we talked about the Impoundment Act and all that yesterday. I don't want to get like so into the weeds that you guys just die. I don't want it to feel like a, you know, a college class. But there, their, their, my whole complaint about it is that it feels like that and you're just simply trying to understand how your government is spending your money. And that is what angers me, that we have to go through all of this labyrinth of ridiculous political reasoning to arrive at a conclusion. And it's so incredibly frustrating. And I feel your frustration about all of it. But this, the recisions package, I think, I don't have an objection to the rescissions package. I don't have an objection to what we talked about yesterday
Starting point is 00:39:19 with the pocket rescission strategy. My issue is with this big, beautiful bill and that not enough was done. I think that they really played it very, I'm not saying conservatively as an American political conservative. I mean, in terms of taking risks, they played it super conservative with us, Bill. And they did some, they fudged some CBO math. And I was talking to you last hour about how I don't appreciate this little Motte Bailey that they're doing as though they're trying to ignore the fact. I think they're, I feel like they're trying to dodge. the question of tax cuts. Why are they not permanent? Because no, not all of them are. And I've written about it. I've highlighted the portions of the bill that stipulates such. And they keep
Starting point is 00:40:11 arguing that, really, I think the only person that has brought this up, and I understand Rand Paul's remarks on this, he's talking about the additions to the deficit from this. And of course, it raises the debt ceiling, which I am completely against, because it's just fiscally irresponsible and it signals that they have no interest and really, and I'm tired of the phrase clawing back, they have really no interest to stop a lot of the spending. That's why they want to raise the debt ceiling. But this idea that the tax cuts are adding to the deficit, that's all, I don't believe tax cuts cost. It's the spending that's adding to it. And I don't, there's not a Republican that's saying that tax cuts are adding to the deficit. There are, if anything, I've been
Starting point is 00:40:49 seeing people ask, why are they not made permanent? Why are we calling an extension of a state, status quo that was established in 2017 and expires on January 1st, why are we saying presenting that as an additional cut? Because that's what Republicans were doing in the first place. And now you've had to have some people come back like Russ fought say, well, you know, it's not, I mean, it's not, it's an extension. It's, you know, it's of what was in 2017. But not all of the 2017 tax cuts are still being made permanent. Only some of it is, not all of it is. And so you even have to be careful and how you present that because to just to say universally that all of the 2017 tax cuts are being made permanent is not true. It's just not supported by the language of the bill, which I've read,
Starting point is 00:41:34 and I've highlighted over at my substack chapter and verse, which is not behind a firewall. And you can read that post and I've shared it already. So it's, it's, I really feel like there's a lot of bait and switch here. Oh my gosh. And then the debt ceiling. And then you have this weird, questionable thing with regards to states and regulating AI. But are we all going to die? No, we're not all going to die. That's what Democrats are telling you when they can't get more of your money. You're killing them. They need more of your money to survive. You're killing them. We're like the modern day fiscal Van Helsings, I guess. I don't know. It's just so asinine. I'm so tired of this. I'm so tired of the drama and hyperbole from these people. But I mean, it's to be expected. I want to have
Starting point is 00:42:17 one more. Let's see. This is, so Audio Somebody 2. Ron Johnson. So he's one of them speaking in favor of Elon Musk, and he's also one of them. He's really mad about the debt ceiling if you want to know Ron Johnson's big thing. And by the way, yes, you can. There's ways to go about this without raising the debt ceiling. But this is what he says, audio somebody too. Does what Elon said give you, does what Elon said give you additional kind of help in your quest on this? Yeah, it certainly bolsters our case.
Starting point is 00:42:51 He was in the inside. He showed us with President Trump how to do this. You know, contract by contract, line by line, we have to do that forensic audit. We don't take the time. Again, we exempt most programs, focus on a couple, tweak him, get a CBO score. This really out of context. I mean, the context is all about $22 trillion in expected deficit. By the way, that counts about $4 trillion of tax increase, which I don't want to incur.
Starting point is 00:43:17 But if we don't incur that, you got to make up for about $4 trillion in revenue. Now, one of the things, by not reducing spending, you're giving Democrats the ability to say that tax cuts cost. I've been saying this since 2017, and I said Republicans are going to find, because Republicans didn't stop spending in 2017. They kept spending, and then they had tax cuts also. I don't believe tax cuts cost. They shouldn't because it's your money. It's our money. But the way that Democrats put it is that, oh, well, they do cost.
Starting point is 00:43:45 So we're going to have to raise them to offset the cuts that everybody has been getting because, heaven forbid, they stop. spending. And so, I mean, he makes, that does make sense. It, I mean, it makes all the sense in the world. So, I don't know. I mean, the, the CBO, we talked about the CBO scoring yesterday. The recisions package, like I said, I'm totally for the recisions package. I'm for the pocket rescission. I'm for anything that allows us to cut back and cancel some of, some of the funds here. But I'm telling you, it's, um, it, this is, isn't the best that we could do. And I think that if we had a stronger speaker, we probably could have done more. But that's the way it is. I wanted to switch to talk about immigration here.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Audio Sondiangbite 9. Hakeem Jeffries, if you want to know why ICE has to wear masks, Hakeem Jeffries explains it right here. Listen. Every single ICE agent who's engaged in this aggressive overreach and I'm trying to hide their identities from the American people will be under. unsuccessful in doing that. This is America. So not the Soviet Union. We're not behind the iron curtain. This is not the 1930s. And every single one of them, no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, will, of course, be identified. That, in fact, is the law. Well, cartels have been threatening to kill their families. I don't know. I guess that's
Starting point is 00:45:16 something that he's missed in all of this. They've been threatening to kill them, kill their families, and why are we targeting American citizens who are serving in Border Patrol as they are trying to detain and deport people who enter the country illegally that are not citizens? See, it doesn't make any sense. This is just so asinine. Just so asinine. Come on. So who would want to do that job, honestly?
Starting point is 00:45:47 Who would want to do that job at this point? I don't I don't know at all I think it's um they're mad because they're trying to do some pretty asymmetrical things in order to get people and this is audio somebody eight they're utility workers they're dressed up as utility workers for with Tucson electric power well watch those suspected were immigration enforcement officers they say not only were they in unmarked vehicles but they were asking unusual questions and claimed that they worked with Tucson electric power Don't open the door. They don't have a warrant.
Starting point is 00:46:21 This video shows two men looking for the man inside the home, asking about a missed court date. But this neighbor jumped into action. And I was like, no, don't open the door. And then they're like, this is ice. And I said, yes, this is ice. Christine Carino says the incident started when they asked her questions while watering her yard, saying they were with Tucson electric power. She says that's when they started walking toward her neighbor's home.
Starting point is 00:46:45 So the young boy, which is a stepson, allowed them to come in, thinking they're from Tucson Electric Power. And you're lying. You are not in a uniform. But she quickly confronted the impersonators. Spokesperson with Tucson Electric Power told me their vehicles are always marked and they always identify themselves, which. So wait, are they doing one of the whole, well, that's a legaler. It reminds me that scene from cops that I saw. And this was like some years ago. and two women were fighting in the street and one of them called the cops and the cops showed up and they were like well why y'all you know fight and you can't be doing this and she was like well she stole my crack rock and the cops were like you know you know that having crack is illegal right and she's like yeah but ain't stealing illegaler and i about died uh came back to life died again i feel like this is the same right like oh these ice people they're pretending to be utility workers to catch people who entered illegally right yeah but isn't this illegaler
Starting point is 00:47:43 It's like the same thing. It's the same thing. You can't. It doesn't make any sense. This is not how this operates. It's not how we operate this. We shouldn't be doing this. Listen to this.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Audio 7. The Colorado 8, well, this is the, so the terrorist in Boulder, Colorado, who wanted to set Jewish people on fire, his family has been detained, and they're going to be deported. I want you to listen to what the AG, says about this.
Starting point is 00:48:15 This is audio sound by 7, yes? Yes. The important part about your process is if someone has a basis to stay here, they have a legitimate claim for asylum that they're threatened. That's going to get evaluated by an independent fact finder. And that's how our immigration system should work. It should work based on the facts, based on the law. It shouldn't be targeting people in ways that are.
Starting point is 00:48:41 haphazard in ways that denied you process. Are you like throwing fire on them? Or ways that are based on fear? Not based on facts. Are you saying this is haphazard or based on fear? This guy's a doucheer. This is a procedure that's been used before, an expedited procedure. And the
Starting point is 00:48:57 point is they may have a claim for asylum. They may not. That'll get decided by the iterative process. And that's how it's... So, Mohamed Soleiman, the guy who tried to set Jews on fire, well yeah he's try he well he was he wanted to do more than that he wanted to he wanted to carry out a
Starting point is 00:49:17 full on like i think he wanted a massacre everyone that he could get to he has a wife and five kids their visas have been revoked according to court filings they're being processed for expedited removal uh well yeah sorry you got to go we have the right no shoes no shirt if you're a terrorist no service get out we can do that here in the united states because we can any questions and So, I mean, that's kind of the downfall, the downside of your dad being, you know, a murderer. And that's the downside of it. And apparently, I mean, he's also here illegally. I don't believe that the family's here illegally if the dad was here illegally.
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Starting point is 00:51:09 Happy Killdozer Day. If you're unfamiliar with Kill Dozer Day, a killdozer, this was a guy who was a repair shop owner. He had a modified bulldozer in Granbury, Colorado. This is in June 2004. And Marvin Heemeyer. And he was, he didn't hurt, he didn't hurt anybody during his rage, except for himself, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:51:34 But he was upset. because of, he was a disgruntled resident because of a zoning dispute. And so he destroyed his store and, like, went on a rampage. And he had this killed, he had this bulldozer completely kidded out. There's no way you could get into it. This thing was reinforced, reinforced six ways to Sunday. But he was known for the killdozer rampage. If you want, it was falling down come to life.
Starting point is 00:51:59 It literally was. I mean, it absolutely was. Let's see. Also, I thought that was a very important to share because I almost, it was June 4th. So Kildor's the day is the date. Unfortunately, his rampage ended, and he committed suicide, which is sad. But let's see here. A couple of other things while I wait for all of this to reload because it's so ridiculously slow.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Yeah, I know. It's Safari. What are you going to do? I can't. U.S. is apparently going to offer Iran a nuclear deal allowing temporary uranium enrichment. We'll follow up with more about that. And Emmanuel Macron waxwork was stolen from a Paris museum by Greenpeace activists. I don't know what they're going to do with it,
Starting point is 00:52:41 but I'm all for waiting to find out. They stole, it's going to melt. Like, if it's warm over there, the thing is going to... Don't you have to keep those things in, like, a temperature-controlled room? Scientists were stunned as heat caught on camera, bounced like sun. It was the first time, apparently, that it was ever captured. And they said that researchers at MIT
Starting point is 00:52:58 used a new mapping technique to observe heat moving as a wave and bouncing back and forth. It's a wave-like manner and a phenomenon that they call second-teenth. sound, and it's the first time that they were able to actually capture it. Walt Disney is going to live again as a robot. His granddaughter said he never wanted this. It's the saddest headline ever.
Starting point is 00:53:19 They're going to try to make him a robot, and his granddaughter says it's freaky. And she said that she had no, he does not want this. He was just grandpa, and he does not want something like this. I would agree, actually. Oh, wait, I'm going to go all the way back to here. Texas woman dies from brain-eating amoeba after using tainted arreacted. RV water. I am really weird about water sources. Really weird. And she was using nasal. This way you only used to still water if you're going to do this stuff. She used RV water that was
Starting point is 00:53:50 tainted where she was, I guess, doing like a nutty pot. And yeah, she had neurological symptoms days after. And it was branding an amoeba and it killed her. It's horrible. Coming up, men, Democrats, and David Mamet. Stay with us. So let's be real. Medical freedom isn't just a hatchphrase. It's your right. Your health decisions belong to you and not the government, not big pharma, and definitely not someone elected bureaucrat. So that's why I'm all in on what all family pharmacy is doing. They're putting medical power back where it belongs, and that's in the hands of you, Americans. Through the end of June, they're making it even easier to take back control because when you control your health, you protect your family, your future, and your freedom.
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Starting point is 00:55:28 We're on YouTube, Facebook, everywhere. one of the things that we've been talking about, and I always believe that, you know, obviously everything political stems from culture. And it's one of, I think, the best lessons that I learned from a very dear friend of mine, who is my one-time boss, the lady Andrew Breitbart, who introduced me to the work, not the film work, but like the political thought work of my next guest. And I mean, just like a brand new world opened up. David Mamet doesn't really need an introduction. I mean, he's an American. icon. And it's crazy because I've, it's very weird to actually talk to somebody who has such a great body of work and who I think redefined how movies talk and was such, is such a great writer of dialogue and character development. And I mean, the scene, the Chicago away scene from the Untouchables is, I think, one of the standout scenes that really got me into that genre. And I've read almost everything that he's done. I think I've seen everything that he's done. and he's just a living legend.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And he's also like-minded, which is very weird. It's like-minded. It's like-minded. That doesn't happen very often. David Mamet now joins us via video. He's got a new book out, the Disenlightment, Politics, Horror, and Entertainment, and also a new film that he did with Shia LeBuff, Henry Johnson, which you can find on the website, henryjohnsonmovie.com, and he joins us now. David, it's such a pleasure to have you.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I've always wanted to talk with you. Thanks so much for giving us some of your time. Congrats on the new film. Congrats on the book. And thank you for setting all of these knuckleheads straight about everything. I've watched a number of your interviews. And I mean, I've been hearing about it too from other, from other viewers and members of our audience who are watching you. And they're like, he gets it.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And people feel so encouraged that someone who does what you do understands their perspective. So thank you. Thank you so much. You know, I was thinking about you today. And I know you like beats, right? Yes. You know I do. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:28 And I wanted to say that what's missing, when we say the Judeo-Christian civilization is no longer applicable, what's missing is shame. So you see a lot of things, people on the left, they're free to lie because they have no shame. And they have no shame before each other. They have no shame before God because they aren't grateful. So I wanted to tell you that the greatest aid to gratitude is beats. You know why? Why? Okay, I love beats.
Starting point is 00:57:59 I know you love beats. You so love super beats. So I was thinking, you know, you eat beats. I love you, yum, yum, yum. You get up the next morning and you look, you're peeing. And oh, my God, you see, my urine is red. I'm pissing blood. So the first thing you think is, oh, my God, so soon, so soon.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Well, I guess that's the thing. Then you think who's going to get my pocket knife collection? And then you think, I hope my wife doesn't marry a lawyer if she does well, shame on her. And then you remember that you ate beats and you say, my God, thank you. I'm not actually dying. I have another day. It's a gift. So I wanted to thank you for promoting the religiosity of the gratitude of beats.
Starting point is 00:58:44 It is my pleasure. And I think it's more pleasurable than asparagus. So you're welcome. You're welcome on that. I wanted to ask you because you've, I think that you get the, I mean, obviously, because, you know, you're a man. I mean, you get the psyche of men and you get the psyche of male characters. And I think you better than anyone can kind of really see into that.
Starting point is 00:59:05 And I bring this up because, as you know, and you've talked about this a little bit, Democrats are, you know, fellow Americans on the other side of the aisle. They actually spent $20-something million to study men to try to figure out where they went wrong with men this last election. They're trying to understand what the disconnect. is. What do you think the disconnect is with the left? I don't think they need to spend that on it. Well, you know, Schiller, that's not the philosopher, my oculist. He said with stupidity, even the gods struggle in vain. It's the one thing I know that Schiller said, it's so true. If someone, you know, there's two phrases that everyone's using on the left mouth, double down and die on this hill.
Starting point is 00:59:54 So it's all about doubling down. So if you're stupid, if you've done something stupid, as I certainly have, I try to do it, you know, as little as possible. When I do it again every day, wisdom comes from being able to step back and saying, you know what, that was stupid. The problem with the left is that they've plucked themselves into a corner. Because if they say if any of these absurd, blasphemous, horrendous, savage ideas that they've doubled down on, Their life is over, as far as they know it, because they're going to lose their spouse. They're going to lose their kids in their head. They're going to lose their job.
Starting point is 01:00:31 They're going to lose their community. So they have to keep doubling down. And that's why, for example, as it becomes clearer and clearer that climate change is a hoax, they've doubled down on anti-Semitism. Because rather than saying, wait a second, let's stop, right? Let's go down to the kitchen table and see what's actually happening. They have to reinforce their stupidity. to make sure they're all on the same page, because that's what happens in a totalitarian regime.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Yes. Yes, that's true. That's absolutely true. The phrase toxic masculinity, I think, had contributed a lot to that, this idea that men couldn't be men anymore, and that men, especially like some of the characters that you've written, that those men are somehow anachronistic with our times today, that they're out of vogue, that these men don't, there's no place in society for manly men anymore. don't see that. I don't, I don't see that. And I feel like that's, do you think that the pendulum is swinging the other way? Because it seems like for so long, men have been under attack. They've been, I think, discredited, disenfranchised, however you want to put it. And now I feel like Democrats in the left, they sort of realize that they have played the wrong hand. Are we, are, is that pendulum going to swing back? Are we going to have like a reset where things feel a little bit more, I don't know the best way to say it. Normal? You do. Normal? Correct? How would you, how do you view that? Are we going to get back to the way that it was? Like the 80s and the 90s,
Starting point is 01:02:04 when things seem saner? Well, they were saner. We're in the midst of a huge cultural upheaval. And I think that it's largely formed. It's caused by a huge shift in technology. Just as the culture started to fall apart in the late 18th, early 19th century because of the industrial revolution, everything changed. So things have changed yet again now because of the computer revolution. Everything has changed.
Starting point is 01:02:36 And we have, and in order to, so rather than saying, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second, what's changed, what can I do about it? Which Elon is saying, and Trump is saying, and the Republicans are saying, people are saying, no, no, no, no, no, something is terribly wrong, but it's not that the culture
Starting point is 01:02:53 has changed. It's very difficult to look at that. It's saying, you know what it is? Men are toxicly masculine. People are born into the wrong sex. Jews of the devil. And the earth is burning. And P.S. any man who wants to compete in women's sports. So it's chicken little, whoever is screaming
Starting point is 01:03:08 the loudest, because who is capable of stepping back and understanding the time in which he or she lives? The answer is nobody. And that's why we have laws. Yeah. Right? Because if not, we're going to resort to our feelings,
Starting point is 01:03:23 and are feeling absent laws and absent the idea that we can rely on the government, this panic. Look, for the first time in many years, I'm not walking around, and a lot of people aren't walking around saying, oh, my God, if I say the wrong thing, someone's going to throw me in jail. So for the first time, certainly in the last four years, I and everybody on the right is saying, I believe in government, which is not to say so much that I believe in Trump, although it may,
Starting point is 01:03:49 but saying I believe in law. Right. And I believe that the law is going to exist to protect the citizen. Well, and that's the nature of a republic, right? Everyone's equal before the law and underneath the law when they violated. I mean, it's not a rejection of government so much as it's an embrace, embracing fair and equally apportioned government, I guess, for the lack of a better way to say it. I mean, I think that that makes sense. Do you, I know that you're a fan of POTUS and you don't, you identify basically as I think a conservative is what I read, which, you know, you, you know, you.
Starting point is 01:04:21 like to conserve the individual, which I think is the best way to put it. That's how I've always viewed it. How do you view conservatism in modern times now? I mean, is it, it feels like it's, it feels like it's the common sense place to be. It's like the, not the common sense party, but it's like the common sense ideology. And it seems like people who have never really maybe identified as that before. Maybe there were classical liberals. Maybe they thought they were kind of more moderate progressives. Now they, now they think this is so much common sense due to so much of what you said. So now they're, they're embracing the word conservative, conserving common sense, conserving individualism.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Yeah, I think so. You know, it says in the Talmud, where there is no bread, there is no law, and where there is no law, there is no bread. So the question of conservatism, constitutional conservatives, is not what is the right thing to do? Because a lot of times we don't look, because we all have passions, right? We want to belong, we want to feel good about ourselves. And so this idea of classical liberalism, what is the right thing to do? The idea of social justice, which has to mean injustice, right? Because it's based on a feeling. The correct question is not, what is the right thing to do, but the correct question is what is the law. Now, can the law be wrong? Sure. We have a law which enables us to change that. Additionally,
Starting point is 01:05:43 that against my people, the Jews say, the prophet Micahus says, what is he's supposed to do. Do justice, love mercy, and be humbled before God. So that's the correct answer to me. And it's conservatism. Absolutely do justice. But you've got to love mercy too. Right. But they're two different verbs, aren't they? Yes. Yeah, exactly. And they're not entirely mutually exclusive either, I think. We're talking to David Mamet. Yeah, exactly. Talking to David Mamet, legendary, screenwriter, author. He's got a new film out as well, Henry Johnson with Shia LeBuff, and you can see it at Henry Johnsonmovie.com. You mentioned, too, anti-Semitism. This is an insane thing here. It's 2025. And I honestly, I hear from my kids. I have a son in
Starting point is 01:06:32 college. And he says that he's noticed an increase in anti-Semitism with his generation. that talked to me a little bit about that because again it's 2025 I don't know if we're just so far removed from the greatest generation that we're like forgetting the horror I'm just trying to wrap my mind around why this is like we had a guy who tried to set people on fire in Boulder and then there was I mean there's like been at least like three I think attacks there's a couple that was shot at in DC what are your thoughts on this and why how are we in this how is this happening in 2025 what's happening for a bunch of reasons. One is that my people, the Jews, have not had a state for 2,000 years. We've been at the best guests and at the worst slaves and always at the mercy of whatever country we were living in because we were never actually citizens. So we got into the habit of keeping our head down and saying, I can put up with it, I can put up with it. Eventually they're going to kill some of us, blah, blah, blah. Finally, the state of Israel comes along with some people say, you know, that's enough. We have to have our own state as
Starting point is 01:07:40 Theodore Herzl said when he was looking at Dreyfus, who was being maligned as a traitor in France in 1895. He was a Jewish officer. And Herzl was a very famous and successful Austrian playwright and assimilated Jew. And he went to see Dreyfus being disgraced for a false accusation of treason. But the people weren't yelling death to the traitor. They were yelling death to the Jews. And Herzl sat down and he said, oh my God, they're going to kill. us all, we need our own country, right? By the grace of God, 50 years later, we have our own country. But a lot of the world still doesn't. It's, listen, it's the go-to thing. As a guy loses his job, he comes on me, beats his wife. Okay? She says, if you do that again, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:08:31 leave. He comes back again. He beats her again. She goes to the cops. The cops say, wait a second, be a good wife. This doesn't happen anymore, but that's a traditional, uh, uh, unfortunate outbreak of people who were defenseless. So to say to the Jews, to say of the Jews, what are you doing to bring it about? It's the same thing as saying of the wife, well, what was the expression on your face when your husband came home? Now, the reason anti-Semitism is breaking out again is for two reasons. One is that the society is reinventing itself because of this.
Starting point is 01:09:05 The computers upended everything, how we date. whom we marry, how we work, how we talk to each other, what we see, where we get our news, and it upsets everything. So people are upset, so what are they going to do? Just like the guy who comes home when he kicks his wife, he is going to go to the most proximate, permitted victim, which is for 2,000 years been to Jews. There's the second thing, and I think that we understand that when we look at Greta Thunberg, right? Here's a little girl. God bless her. You know, she's a professional truant she says the earth is burning run for your life the earth is burning run for your life okay give her the Nobel Peace Prize you know and pat her on the back and put
Starting point is 01:09:49 her on the cover of Time magazine now it turns out that we that the left gets tired of this fiction and it turns out the earth is not burning and the polar ice caps are increasing so now what what does Greta Thundberg do she gets on a ship to go to Gaza what in the hell does this little girl who's never gone to school in her life, God bless her. All of a sudden, in addition to knowing about the earth is burning, she knows about what's happening in Israel. She just ran out of steam so she crossed decked herself. So that's what's happening to a lot.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Those are the two things that lead to anti-Semitism. It's a proximate victim, and the left is always moving from one horror to the next. It's COVID. It's the Y2K thing. it's Islamophobia it's the earth is burning it's and now it's the Jews okay what's new exactly I mean I think that I think that's it entirely I wish that we had more time because I feel like it's like drinking from a fire hose and I and I love the points that you make and I think that you're such a great mind especially in not just conservative ideology but political ideology the new book is the disenlightenment the secret knowledge was the first book of yours that I read
Starting point is 01:11:06 And then I went back out of order and read all your other ones. But Andrew Breitbart gave me that book. And that's how I was introduced to all of your conservative thought, was that the secret knowledge. David Mamet and the new film, Henry Johnson was Shile Aboveh, Henry Johnson Movie.com. You can go watch it right on the site. David, it's such a pleasure.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I would love to have you back. I'd love to talk with you for a longer period and do like a sit down. I think that you just have so much to say and I'm all here for it. So thank you so much for your time. You've been so generous today. So anytime at all, it's a real pleasure talking to you, Dan. Thank you so much. Thanks so much. God bless. David Mammon, everyone. And make sure you go see the new film Henry Johnson and get the new book, which is fabulous, by the way. We have more in store as we wrap up this second hour stick with us, third hour on the way. Hey, folks. So I want to share something important that every American should be aware of. We're seeing a lot of economic uncertainty right now. You have the national debt rising, global trade tensions, impacting markets and tariffs with higher prices on the stuff that everybody uses every day. It's not about panic. It's about,
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Starting point is 01:12:39 That's daniel likesgold.com and move forward with confidence. It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida man. Okay, so this whole everything about this story is nuts, including the guy's mugshot. Is it a teardrop? I think so. Does that mean he killed a man in prison? Wait, does the teardrop mean you killed someone in prison or just killed somebody?
Starting point is 01:13:08 I think it's just killed somebody, period. Okay, I didn't know. Okay. So a Florida man, okay, all of this happening at once. A Florida man was busted for snacking on unpaid blueberries and also carrying 11 grams of fentanyl, and he's got the tear tattoo. Okay, is it illegal? If you're, okay, if you're in a, the fentanyl, totally illegal.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Yes, we agree. But if you're in a grocery store and you're getting blueberry. and you're going to pay for them if you wanted a snack on some can you yeah but that's we're assuming that he had the package and was walking towards the damn checkout well i want to give him the benefit of the doubt you know well well if i didn't know about the fentanyl you know i would imagine it's like he walked by the produce section grabbed a handful of blueberries ate them while he's walking towards you know the clothing section because he so he's charged he's he's he's getting charged because he didn't pay, and apparently also for the fentanyl, because
Starting point is 01:14:10 he had 11 grams of fentanyl. And apparently that's trafficking amounts. So that's a big bad thing. But I'm just asking about the blueberries for all the rest of us. You know, that's what I wanted to know. It's short, went long last segment, but it was worth it. Third hour on the way. Hey, folks, so I want to share something important that every American should be aware of. We're seeing a lot of economic uncertainty right now. You have the national debt rising, global trade tensions impacting markets and tariffs with higher prices on the stuff that everybody uses every day. It's not about panic. It's about preparation. So this is why I partnered with Goldco, the top-rated precious metals company to help you take a step towards protecting
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Starting point is 01:15:34 are doing to our young people. This is grotesque what we're doing. We need to own up to that. This is our moment. I can't accept this scenario. I can't accept it so I won't vote for it unless we are serious about fixing it. So that's Senator Ron Johnson, who is very critical of that bill, which is one of the ongoing things that we're talking about, not to drag you in the needs, but this is your money. I mean, I want you guys to realize that, you know, I may, it may seem like I'm, I keep going back, well, you know, I'm always going to revisit it every hour, but focusing a lot on this, but that's because it's literally going to determine how much you are paying in taxes, how much you have for child, like the tax deductions, business
Starting point is 01:16:19 deduct. I mean, I could go on and on. It affects all of that stuff. And my, my two biggest criticisms of it, obviously, are the adding, the raising of the dead ceiling. But then also that these cuts are temporary. And I want to, we're going to play this Russ Vaught audio here in a minute because I, I feel like, you know, he talks about a gimmick that is, you know, that they're using as like a budgetary trick. But it's also the gimmick, too, to cap tax cuts at 20, for four years so capping them at four years and then ending them in 2028 so that you can adjust you can you can tweak the CBO score a little bit because what I tell you the CBO congressional budgetary office is is going to compute exactly what you give it it's chaotic neutral it's going to compute spit out
Starting point is 01:17:12 whatever you feed it it's like AI right you can train AI you can prompt it to kind of give you something and have it stained with a certain ideological bent or whatever it's only only going to tabulate exactly what you give in it and it's not going to look into the wise and that's kind of important that's important context to have so first off welcome back to the program dana lash with the we're at the top of this third hour so this was russ vaught who was talking about this and he was saying that it doesn't hurt the debt it doesn't increase you're raising the debt ceiling i disagree with him on this i i don't dislike russ vaught i just think he's trying to sell it this is his his uh remarks on this listen this bill doesn't
Starting point is 01:17:51 increase the deficit or hurt the debt uh in fact that lowers it by $1.4 trillion. What some of the watchdogs have done is they have used CBO's artificial baseline which doesn't allow and assume that current tax law will be extended because of sunsets that are in the law. They don't do that with suspending.
Starting point is 01:18:11 It is totally something that would be foreign to any common sense person who comes and looks at how we budget in this country. And so when you assume the extension of the president's tax relief, from 2017, this budget or this bill, and it's really a reconciliation bill, it's not really a budget bill. It is using a budget process. This is a $1.4 trillion over 10 years deficit reduction. It's $1.6 trillion in mandatory savings. Obviously, we have a little bit of spending in there as well
Starting point is 01:18:44 for border and defense. A little bit. But that is the biggest mandatory savings package that we have seen since the 1997. It's very historic. him talking about a reduction of the deficit. I mean, what you're, he's saying that it's a gimmick and that it doesn't use a realistic policy baseline. Now, just so you know, I mean, the CBO is never, again, it always, remember, keep in context that it spits back whatever you feed it. They've never estimated growth accurately ever. No, not ever. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I'm like going back, not with Obamacare, not with the Bush tax cuts, not with literally nothing. There's actually nothing that they've, that it's, because everybody always, they always, they always, they always fake it. They always, it's, again, the bias is how it's presented to the CBO, not what the CBO, what it tabulates. Does that make sense? I mean, I think that's the best way to do to compare it, Kane, right, to AI. Like, however you train AI. That's with a CBO. So it's like a, it's. Yeah, kind of. You're right. And the reason I bring that up is because a lot of people are like, well, the CBO says this or the C. Like it's some kind of major authority. You're right. It's data and data out. Exactly. And and there's no context like, well, why? Like so for instance, with this bill and I, to double check myself, because I don't trust AI at all. Sorry, I don't. It's going to kill us. Rumba's going to eat my hair. You know, AI is going to come in our house, kill us as we sleep. So I don't, I don't messes with the AI, okay?
Starting point is 01:20:23 But one of the, I did check with members of Congress. And I, and not like in an accusatory way. I'm like, hey, I want you to double check me on this. Is this correct, you know, my, what I'm, what I'm asserting here? Because my whole point has been, yes, the debt ceiling, but not all of these tax cuts are permanent. And so as a way to make it look like, and I'm going to say the cost, even though I think that's a stupid way to define it. it, but that's how it's being defined by the media and even both parties. The cost of the bill to get it under a certain level, what they did is they capped the tax cuts at four years. So,
Starting point is 01:21:07 and I'm pulling up, bear with me, because I have this, again, it's all, I have it all in Slack. I wrote all of this out in substack on my substack over at chapter and verse. And it's all linked and you can go deep dive into it. But my whole point in this is that they, capped the tax cuts at a certain level so that they could get it in under a certain cost because what the way that it works is they will they will view that as a cost in addition to government spending it doesn't really differentiate it just looks at money in money coming in money coming out even though we all know that tax cuts that's not what costs it's government spending but the baseline I mean for not using I think what he said
Starting point is 01:21:53 was what, a realistic policy baseline, or however you put it, the CBO was saying that they were going, it can add trillions to the deficit over a decade. And it, the problem is, is that what Congress fed it kind of contradicts what bought is saying here. And it's not the CBO saying it. Again, it's the data in, data out. The savings that they're arguing, they, that's kind of a gimmick because they do budgetary tricks to cap stuff and sunset at you know in 27 or 28 or whatever in order
Starting point is 01:22:31 to make it seem like this is actually costing less or adding less to the deficit I mean the bottom line is that the debt's going to grow and that's what Massey and Rand Paul are replying to. They're not looking at like CBO stuff. They know how this stuff works. I mean for crying
Starting point is 01:22:49 out loud Thomas Massey God love him I don't say this to be mean he is honestly the biggest nerd I've ever met in my life and I met some nerds and he's real sweet real nice super smart and again that's not a pejorative it's very I think it's a very flattering term he is a nerd I mean this guy is like an MIT guy he's super smart he probably has like a 10.0 GPA I'm sure I mean this was the guy who who himself was making those little debt tracker buttons and handing them out to people and he's just he's very obsessed he's very fiscal he's a fiscal hawk and ran paul is as well they're not going off of the little gimmicks here and there
Starting point is 01:23:27 they're going off the real actual baseline and they're not the only ones and i think a lot there are too many people that in congress that don't know this stuff i think that you have a lot of people in congress that get in and they rely on their staff to do it and i say that because i know for a fact that there are members of congress that there's they're real they're good at fundraising and getting headlines but they let their staff do most of the work That's true. And they, I don't think that they really get a lot of it. And that's what, that's what Paul and Massey are reacting to. And that's what some of these other lawmakers are reacting to. But it's, that's the, that's kind of the stickler for me. Now, you got to separate that budget from the recisions, reconciliation from rescissions. Recisions, I don't have an issue with, although I think we could probably go for a lot more. However, I want to go for a lot more. But what is the, what does that reality look like in the house? House. Because think about it, they're already struggling with just this. Think about how much we're complaining about this. It's not a win for us. And yet it's already so hard for them to
Starting point is 01:24:34 get this across the line, party line votes. It's because they don't, they don't have the wherewithal to do it. And it's not even really Democrats so much. There's, it's a lot of Republicans. There are a lot of Republicans that spend as much, if not more than Democrats. I mean, that's not a lot, but there are some. And can you know that? I mean, there were some, there's some big spenders that are there. So, I mean, we're going to talk a little bit more about this year coming up because there's one portion of the bill we've talked about that gets into AI and state sovereignty as it pertains to regulating AI. And I get a little weird about it. I get a little weird about some of that because I feel while on one hand, I understand that would it create a mess
Starting point is 01:25:21 if states were all dealing with AI differently? Do you think it would, Cain, would it create this like major spider web mess if every state is dealing with the regulation of AI differently? Do you think that's why these law, that's why they were trying to say for 10 years, states can't do it? I think that they're probably trying to make government
Starting point is 01:25:39 more efficient by using AI. And so what they don't want to do is have states regulate it so that it affects how federally they have the relationship with the states. So I think that's part of it I don't really know the underlying motivation Because it might be more nefarious than that
Starting point is 01:25:58 Because on the surface it kind of looks like it I know Yeah it's yeah it's something else So we're like I said we're gonna dive more A little bit deeper into that here coming up I also Oh let me pull everything up We also have to get into this issue
Starting point is 01:26:15 Hold up where's this side We were talking about the dudes Can we get into I have a hand full of things here. Bear with me because I'm pulling it up right now. I had a couple of things. First and foremost, this is, this is the right link. I'm thinking it is. Yeah. Oh, so this is GOP stuff. So in Texas, some of the initial polling coming out from Paxton and Cornyn is that Cornyn is trailing Paxton by 22 points.
Starting point is 01:26:50 I had a text conversation with an operative friend who does a lot of stuff in Austin, Texas. And they were saying that, yeah, Cornyn is in a tough spot. And also apparently Paxton is scooping up a lot of some of these big dollar donors that Cornyn used to rely on. And I don't think that Cornyn's, my friend was saying that they don't think that Cornyn's people correctly anticipated just how much Paxton would peel off of his support and donors. So that's a big thing. There's this big fight over the donors. In fact, the, it was the Senate Leadership Fund that that was the one of the PACs, that was backing Cornyn, they did their, they had their own survey, and this was from April 27th to May 1st,
Starting point is 01:27:50 so he was down 16 points in their survey. This newest survey shows Cornyn, and this is an independent poll, this is, this came out literally just the other day, that shows him down 22. And these are, the first one particularly was Republican, ran, Republican, you know, they're going to want to really know the lay of the land. Bottom line is that Cornyn, even within the margin of error for both of these
Starting point is 01:28:23 surveys, he is double digits behind Paxton right now. And that's pretty crazy. Only 27% of those surveyed wanted to see him reelected. 54% wanted
Starting point is 01:28:39 somebody new. How long do you think Corny has been in office? Hmm. Gosh. I'd say 12. He was first in office in 2002. Oh, my gosh. So 23 years? Yeah. Wow. That's a long time. A long time. Now, some, Cornyn said that the reason why Paxton looked like he was leading is he said, and I quote, primarily name identification.
Starting point is 01:29:09 but then the entity that the independent entity that was doing the survey only 7% of them hadn't heard of Cornyn oh gosh oh man dude his campaign is ill-equipped to deal with us they're not they're ill-equipped to deal with us we got more on the way we got headlines coming up as we move our partners that help bring you the program the folks over at burn a gun now I always believe in caring and I have no problem using the lethal force to defend the life of my life or the life of my loved ones. That said, I also realize that there are some realities that we have to live with, municipal restrictions, private property restrictions. And, you know, you might have college kids that are too young to carry a handgun, but they're living
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Starting point is 01:31:33 Quick five. All right. So first up, apparently L.A. sound stages are dead. Wow. You know, like, you, oh, I've never been, but like you could go to, like, the Warner Brothers lots or Paramount Lott's or something like that. But now, apparently, all these L.A. facilities have seen just a major plunge in production. So they're like, it's like the malls. They said how the malls are empty.
Starting point is 01:31:57 So are these sound stages. They said that, I mean, it's bleak. average stage occupancy plunged to 63%. This is even after COVID and strikes. Insanity. And new, they're trying to say, well, actually, I'm going to go down. There's a new Steven Spielberg film that's set to recapture the excitement of ET Close Encounters and its plan for 2026.
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Starting point is 01:33:53 We're everywhere watching you. So it's good to be back with you. we've been talking about recisions, pocket recisions, the big beautiful bill, and one aspect of it that seemed to sort of kind of slip under the radar, we were talking about it about a week or so ago, a couple weeks ago. And it has to do with the regulation of AI. So on like part of this, in this bill, there is a centralization of control. of AI at the federal level, integrating AI into all of these, you know, federal agencies, et cetera. But it bars from the way the bill reads currently states themselves from regulating AI. And I'm trying to figure out why that is. Is that a thing that's supposed to be beneficial? Is it a thing that's not? And the reason I'm questioning whether or not it's beneficial is because for the past, you know, several years, our state AGs have really led the
Starting point is 01:34:55 fight with a lot of the stuff against the Biden-Harris administration. And I'm just worried about how that would tie their hands if, you know, because Trump's at office in 28, what happens after that? This is a 10-year thing. What does that mean? So joining us to discuss this, he's got a little bit of expertise in this area. It is a very good friend of ours. Congressman Rich McCormick, he serves Georgia's 7th Congressional District. And he's on a number of different committees, including the Cyber Information Technologies and Innovation Subcommittee. So he's kind of an expert on this issue. And we're going to talk to him about the other stuff related to it as well.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Representative McCormick, so good to see you. Thank you for joining us. I wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts about this provision or this part of this bill? Is that, is it a good thing or a bad thing? I'm just worried about tying up our state's ability to regulate this themselves. Or is this a concern about the uniformity of the way that AI, would be regulated. How do you interpret this? First of all, great to be on your show, big fan, obviously. I'm really, you know you're in trouble when you turn to a Marine to ask about
Starting point is 01:36:01 intelligence, but I've been reading up on this, talking to the experts about this. Literally, if you think about the most transformative technology in our lifetime, AI is it. And when you talk about interstate commerce and actually even international commerce, look no further than something that's going to be affected by every law we make now i get i'm a state's right guy i totally want to see state rights dominate any sort of federal legislation but it's separate in this case like when you talk about commerce when you talk about for example the internet when it first came along if we would have regulated state by state it would have totally inhibited it from being what it is today same thing with a i once you get a bunch of states with different legislative
Starting point is 01:36:46 efforts. It would cross-contaminate the whole process of international trade, of interstate trade, of its ability to actually transform and progress. We've become non-competitive with China, most of all, not to mention Russia and Iran and other countries that are trying to develop AI at a rapid pace also. Whenever you become non-uniform, it slows the process down. This is something that we fall behind on, and you've got to realize 50% of all AI engineering happens in China right now, for the entire world. If we fall behind on this, we're in trouble. This will transform the landscape of economics and digital economy, as well as, don't forget,
Starting point is 01:37:24 we're also competing with India. This would just really inhibit our process. It's not going to be, if it's dangerous, we can do things at the federal level to help with that. And I think we've shown great bipartisanship in this one area because we understand it's dangerous and also its ability to transform the future. Yeah, I think that's a good point, too, because I think it's maybe the only singular area where Democrats and Republicans are like, we don't want SkyNet. Let's not have SkyNet come, and we don't want to do that. And I think it's a good point, too, because if it's about making
Starting point is 01:37:54 things more efficient, which it seems like that's one of the reasons why they want to incorporate it at the federal level. But what is with the 10-year period? Is that just how much time they think that they're going to need for uniformity? I think once you get to 10 years, everybody's going to see the advantages of having no interstate interference, just like the internet. Nobody talks about it anymore on the internet, because why? Because it's already fully developed and we kind of do our own thing, whether it be 5G or cable or whatever. We understand that whatever advances us quicker wins.
Starting point is 01:38:28 And I think once you get past the 10-year period, people will accept that we don't need additional regulation. We have to have certain laws to make sure we don't have deep fakes or distort the truth, things like that. But I think we can universally agree on those truths. And we just faced this down in Georgia, as a matter of fact, one of my state senators took my advice, and he said, we cannot pass legislation that's going to make us noncompetitive against other states or decrease our competitiveness internationally. And I think it's a good thing. I think within 10 years, people will be like, ah, this is the norm. And we haven't seen really bad things. And if we do, we can react as a federal government. That was an important point that you just mentioned, too, like deep fakes and things like that. So for those, because I think of like intellectual property and all that stuff. So for those existing. like rights or legal concerns.
Starting point is 01:39:13 It doesn't necessarily negate that simply because it's not at a state level and it's at the federal level. Yeah, and the one problem we always have is how fast we're going to move at the federal level. Yeah. That's always a problem and I get it. But I think we universally as a people understand what's bad and what's good when it comes to the Internet, when it comes to AI and how it affects us. Nobody wants to see people deceive.
Starting point is 01:39:35 And I remember when I was talking about climate change and I started referencing statistics, then all of a sudden disappeared off the Internet. because it supported my claims rather than my opponent's claims, that always concerns me. We want to make sure that people have access to the truth, to science, to peer-reviewed science specifically. So those are the kind of things we want to make sure that we regulate so that we're not deceived as a public so we can have legitimate conversations and debate without it being a biased debate controlled by the government.
Starting point is 01:40:02 That would be bad. And that's the one thing that concerns me and we need to put guardrails on. And I know if this comes back to the House, if it's not taken out in the Senate, if the Senate doesn't strip it out, I mean, I think what you can. can only afford to lose in the House three votes. And I know that there's already one. I know Marjora Taylor Green has said that she's not going to support it if it's included in there. I don't know how she didn't catch it the first time. I mean, she was tweeting about the budget a couple weeks ago and this thing was in there when everybody else was tweeting about it. That would
Starting point is 01:40:27 have been the time to maybe act and try to fight it out of there if you didn't want it in there. Are you worried about is that, is that big enough thing to disrupt that and to cost those three votes? You think if it goes back to the House is still within it? Well, I hope that President Trump is paying attention. I think Elon is one of his advocates, and they get along with both AI and tech people, bend his ear all the time, and hopefully he can put leverage. I know that Marjorie is very sensitive to the president, and if the president says he wants it in there, it's going to remain in there. But I think it's good for our country. Without that provision, we become non-competitive, and I don't think that's good for anybody.
Starting point is 01:41:02 So I'm not really sure what her objections are other than maybe a state's rights issue, but like I said, I'm as big as state's rights issue as anybody. But in this case, it would actually hurt all states, including the United States, moving forward. And that's a huge point that I actually have not heard made in defense of it being in the bill the way that it is, the fact that China, it would, China would. And, you know, India is kind of, we have a weird sort of allyish relationship with India. I prefer them over China, obviously. But to have China lead on AI and development, I mean, just, you know, if you could, just, you know, awaken people a little bit too.
Starting point is 01:41:41 a catastrophic consequence of something like that occurring? There's nothing more transformative in the world society, in economics, in our ability to achieve great things in the future. If we're not leading the way in AI, we will not lead the way in economy, in military, and everything that's important to us, health care, you name it. Why would we ever put ourselves at a disadvantage against China on something that's easy to avoid, which has no real clear benefits of doing it any other way, other and then centralized this ability to free us up from overregulated. And you talk about regulation.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Regulation is the absolute bane of our resistance as conservatives. Why would any conservative want 50 different states with 50 different rules that inhibit us through regulation or taxation and make us noncompetitive? That doesn't make sense to me as a conservative. Yeah, the taxation part. That's another aspect of, ooh, I didn't think. We're talking with Congressman Rich McCormick out of Georgia. So this, I know we have the recisions, we have pocket recisions, possibly.
Starting point is 01:42:41 and then the one big beautiful bill. The rescissions package that's been proposed so far, I mean, it's only $9-something billion, and only in D.C., can you talk about that? Like, that's a tiny amount. I know that sounds crazy to say. A lot under what Doge was recommending to stay for the year. I think theirs was $170 billion.
Starting point is 01:43:00 But in the rescissions package, thus far, I don't see anything other than the amount. I don't really see anything objectionable. Do you think that that's, how do you think Congress is going to handle the rescissions package? Does that seem like something that request from POTUS that you're going to grant? Yeah, I saw a lot of liberals at, sorry, I should say moderates, had a meeting today with Dan Bishop. And they didn't really seem to object to the things that they're saying.
Starting point is 01:43:24 They're non-controversial issues. It's the tip of the iceberg, though. $9 billion is nothing. When we consider we're going to increase their spending, our deficit spending, by $416 billion next year, that's not a responsible bill. I know people are getting on the Eon for Trashness Bill. And I know I kind of voting for it with my nose held because I understand it's not a good bill for containing our debt and deficit. But it's the best thing we can get past this time. I'm hoping the Senate will do their part and give it back to us as I'm more responsible.
Starting point is 01:43:53 And then rescinders can make it even better. But if we don't do something, you can see the future is not right for our debt. Yeah. And the debt ceiling and then the tax cuts because I know that there's been a lot with Russ Vaught and I know Stephen Miller and other people have been debating it. I think those have been some of my biggest issues is the debt ceiling being. raised because that indicates to me that some of the moderate Republicans have no plans whatsoever to cease spending. But not all the tax cuts are permanent, like the no tax on tips. I feel like maybe the administration needs to be a little bit more transparent because all that stuff sunsets
Starting point is 01:44:25 in 2028. And Congressman, I don't have to tell you how tough it can be going into an election year and you're trying to tell, you're trying to deliver on tax cuts when your opposing party tries to talk to everybody and act like they cost. That's going to be a little bit of a hard sell And I don't know if that's going to be something that can be kind of clawed back or accomplished before 28 when it sunsets. Yeah, not a good timing for us. I think that the promises, first of all, in a 10-year budget are silly. I don't even know why you have a 10-year budget. Once you get to four years and all of a sudden it becomes neutral, that's at neutral.
Starting point is 01:44:57 That's two Congress isn't a president from now. Let's talk about this Congress. That's about the only thing we control and realistically. But when you talk about things that sunset, yeah, if it's a good idea, don't make it sunset. I know it's about CBOs scoring. and parlor tricks, and they say, oh, then that tax break goes away and look, now it's deficit neutral. Well, that's assuming we even have the growth. At that point, we could actually go into a more negative decline when you increase taxes and the economy slows. If it's a good
Starting point is 01:45:23 idea, do it. Stop trying to worry about perceptions, worry about realities and explain to the public. Take the time to actually explain why it's good. We all know that that 21% corporate tax rate seems to be the sweet spot on the lapper curve. If you increase that, you actually decrease productivity, you decrease the number of jobs, you decrease the amount of revenue. Anything lower than that, you don't bring in the revenue to begin with. So we kind of find that, we found that sweet spot. We should stick with it, make it permanent, and see how we do. And I think we've shown that it works well for us.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Well, we're going to watch and see what the Senate hands back to you all and see what's kept in and what isn't. But, you know, that's if we're all still alive because, you know, Senator Chuck Schumer, Representative McCormick said, we're all going to die. And I was already dead because of net neutrality. So I don't know what he's talking about. I thought I was Dr. Doom. When he started talking like that, that's a bleak future.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Might as well have assigned to go on vacation, Schumer, because we'd all do a lot better at that point. All right, there you go. Congressman Rich McCormick out of the great state of Georgia. Good to see. I would love to have you back. Thanks so much for your insight on this. It is greatly appreciated.
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Starting point is 01:46:37 or wherever you get your podcast. And we all know one thing. Donald Trump is just lying about the bill. Lying about the bill. Well, here's the we are all going to die. Well, it's called the well. We're all going to die at. And we're already dead, sir.
Starting point is 01:46:57 We got dead. Health care dead at us. And then the net neutrality, that dead at us. We got dead. We're all dead already. How many times are you going to kill us? golly so trump lies but it's we're all gonna die is the truth yeah apparently is that what we're supposed to believe well it's about damn time by smod like you know come on oh welcome back to the show so i wanted
Starting point is 01:47:22 to tell you really quickly you know how i'm like really crazy with uh sponsorships and stuff i have a post up just for some transparency we had uh uh like i like americans for prosperity i think it's a great group and i think that they've done a lot of good in the past and i think that they still do a lot of good. And they, um, I know that they're doing a ad campaign. And they had reached out to our show as well to have us read live copy. And it's, it was very kind of vaguish wording. And it said like, you know, last November, 77 million Americans, blah, blah, blah, uh, Trump economy. You know, we need to no new taxes, make tax cuts permanent. We need to make the tax cuts and jobs permanent, et cetera. And then that you would fill in the URL. And the missing element for me wasn't
Starting point is 01:48:04 the URL, but it was some of the language. It was like the house. It was like the house. Like, how were they planning to make the tax cuts and jobs act permanent? Well, what it is is that they're actually supporting the big beautiful bill, which I don't support. You know, I like the recisions packages, but I don't think that this goes far enough because the tax cuts actually are still temporary. And I've written about it and I've discussed it on air a lot. And I'm like, I can't, they wanted a quick turnaround. They wanted me to get back this morning and say if I was going to read this copy or not. I'm like, I can't read this copy.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I can't be critical of the bill. and then take money for reading copy where I'm encouraging people to go out and support it. And I've always been, and I still love them, and they're probably going to get mad at me. I still love the group because, look, they came in clutch for Tea Party. You would not have had the 2010 revolution
Starting point is 01:48:51 without Americans for Prosperity. And I would argue you really wouldn't have Trump without them supporting grassroots in the early stages. That said, for the purpose of transparency, because you are going to hear these ads being read by others and posting people, themes about it. I just wanted you to be aware of it because I think it's important to disclose
Starting point is 01:49:10 stuff like this, especially when a lot of the online activism online is very much financed. And I'm happy to partner with entities when goals align. I'm a capitalist, still a bit of an activist, but I'm always transparent. And I've yet to agree to do anything like that. Like, I've never taken money for that stuff. In the past, Americans for Prosperity only facilitated travel. I never took a check. But I just like transparency. So I'm still against the BBB. I'm still for the rescissions, but we'll keep talking about it as it goes. Today's stupidity came. All right, this is Representative Balant.
Starting point is 01:49:42 She's from Vermont, and Juan, it's the last part of this video that really matters. So if you, just like the last 10 seconds or so, listen to what she says here. Avenue is for people to come here legally to work or to build our home here. I'm going to be really true right now. We're not going to have anybody around to wipe our asses because we don't have enough people. Is that which someone? Oh, boy, she's a mess. Folks, that does it for us today.
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