The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - ICE Under Fire, Newsom Unhinged & Michelle Obama Questions ‘Maleness’”

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

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That report and take a look at this video right here. It appears a protester fired some kind of gun at federal agents. This happened this afternoon. It was a really chaotic scene at the time. A lot of smoke was being launched at the protesters. And again, it appears a protester fired back with that weapon. It looks like he fired at least a couple of times. We have not heard about any agents being hurt.

Well, I think one of the things that we can say without any hesitation at this point is that Democrats are shooting at ICE agents and I was told again for the millionth time that this was an insurrection. I noticed the way that they reported it. Well, looks like it's some kind of a gun. Chick, that's a gun. A dude has a gun and they were firing at ICE agents and I've watched this clip. I've watched like a million of these clips since this happened yesterday and we're going to dive into it if you don't know what the full story was. They raided a marijuana farm. Farmer, like, like, yeah, farm, right? Like a pot farm, I guess. I don't think that there's any other word for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was really shocking the people that they took into custody at this place.

And we're going to dive into it because there were kids there. They had children at this thing. And so, you know, I'm reading about, I'm reading Gavin Newsom's tweets and all this other stuff. And Gavin Newsom is, you know, he's very upset. He's out there very upset about all of this. For some reason, I don't know why he's the one who's upset because this is, they knew that this was happening this entire time. I mean, this farm has been there from what I understand for quite a while. It's been there for quite a while. And so I don't know why they're the why, you know, every, he's not more upset that that was happening and that there was, you know, some kind of, that they were literally using child labor at this thing. And we'll share with you his tweets. We're also going to jump into some of the latest as it pertains to because we have more immigration issues to discuss as well. And we're also going to dive into, I got some culture. I got some Hollywood for you because apparently there's going to be a movie or, well, a series, I think, made.

about the American Revolution. And it's Ken Burns it's going to be doing it and I'm a little concerned. Although he did, I thought he did such a great job with the Civil War documentary back in like the day. I have to say I'm a little concerned

with what this is going to look like because Hollywood's changed since that was made. And I, you know, you don't know what it's going to, you don't know what it's going to look like. So welcome to the show. It's Friday. And we'll get you set up for the weekend.

But this is what happened. I'm pulling up a couple of my other stories on this. This is what happened last night. This was in California, where they have gun control. Kane, why didn't the gun control work? They are supposed to have gun control. And they raided this pot farm. And the farm that they raided, I mean, like I said, it's been there for a little while. They had pulling up this statement from the Customs and Border Commissioner. And they said, 10 juveniles were found at the marijuana facility. All of them illegal aliens. Eight of them were unaccompanied. Now they're under investigation also for child labor violations. So they had

10 children that they found at this place, 10 kids, and they said eight of them were unaccompanied. can we, I was thinking about all of this and then, let me pull up my story. I had to archive it. This is the New York Times piece where they discussed how there were, how many, like 100,000 kids that were missing that had been brought in from over. Remember this story that, remember that whole story, Kane? Well, there's 300,000 kids missing during the Biden administration. Well, this was over. It was somewhere around. the numbers were, again, because they're not entirely credible, because you can't really trust a lot of the reporting from people coming across the border. So it was anywhere from, I think it was like 238,000 all the way up to like 255,000.

And then they said, well, we think that there's even more with Godaways, et cetera. So, but the point is, is they were all children. And I don't mean like 19 year old children or 20 year old children. I mean like eight-year-old children. They were all little kids. And the story that the New York Times did, and this piece was, I've shared it with you a million times. So if you're a subscriber, you got it somewhere. I've shared it with you quite a bit.

It's a couple of years old. But it was one of the most honest pieces of reporting. I believe I'm saying this. One of the most honest pieces of reporting that we've seen. Any of the kids that they haven't recovered, I kind of fear, like, went into this child labor situation. This is audio some by three. This was Trump talking about it. Listen. You know, something that you should have that you haven't reported. As you know, 300,000 children are missing, right? 300,000 under Biden. We've already gotten back 10,000 of those

children, and we have a lot more plan to come back. We're getting back by the thousand, but 300,000, And as of this morning, over 10,000 we've gotten back. All of these kids. And you remember it was, wasn't it all, was it Alejandro Mayorkas who had said that he was upset with the different department agencies? And this was under Biden Harris and the earlier part of Biden's term. He was upset with these department agencies that were supposed to be dealing with this. He said that they didn't process these kids fast enough and that Henry Ford would be disappointed. supposed to be like a conveyor belt in terms of the speed with which they just like funnel

these kids through and release them. And then New York Times had this huge story as to, uh, they lost contact with so many of these kids. And the ones that they did find, they would find, uh, literally working, child labor. They would find them, uh, working in factories, et cetera. And a lot of them were going to the same areas because, you know, the cartels have a racket inside the United States where they have set up basically slavery, uh, with people coming across the border, particularly children. And so under Biden Harris, they completely lost all, they lost like all control of this. They don't know where anybody is anymore. No, they had no clue. And then these kids started popping up. So is anybody surprised that we're seeing them there at this thing,

at this, this farm? I mean, they're wanting to keep illegal child labor. That's what this is. That's there. I don't know how else you spend this. All of the, all of the remarks that I've seen about this from the left, from these elected Democrat officials have been. They're upset. They, because they feel like they're, they're just targeting people picking strawberries. That's literally how they have been putting it. Kane, you know, it's not pot. It's just strawberries.

I mean, it's a pot farm. It's not labor. It's just labor. Yeah, it's just they're there. They said they went and they raided these kids that were just picking strawberries. Wait a minute. Can you be mad about the kids being forced to work for five seconds? Holy cow.

Thank you. They said it was a strawberry farm. It's a strawberry farm. And it was a pot farm. They were actually serving a criminal warrant that was signed by a federal judge. And then that's when you had the mob that fired back. And then they had to standoff with them. But they said that they, the way that it was going, the way that the narrative was that it was picking strawberries.

Jimmy Gomez said, quote, how many MS-13 gang members are working up at 3 a.m. to pick strawberries? Oh yeah, zero. Trump said he'd go after the bad hombres, but he's targeting immigrant farm workers who feed America. Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, that's incredibly dishonest. It was a criminal warrant being served at a pot farm. It wasn't a strawberry farm. No one's frying up pot leaves and eating them like a rugula.

There's literally no food that's being grown at the pot farm. There are no strawberries that are being grown at the pot farm. The only thing that is being grown and farmed at the pot farm is pot. That's it. You know, it's funny? Yeah, it's actual strawberry farms don't even claim they're feeding America. Yeah, no one's feeding America with a strawberry farm. I mean, they're delicious, but let's be honest about it.

Good night. What are they, I'm like, I'm surprised that they're not freaking out like, this was our daycare facility. How dare you raid the daycare facility? Who's going to pick our weed now? Oh, yeah, sorry. Strawberries. That explains a lot, though, about some of these Democrats, though.

I'm just saying. But I really, can I just pause right here? And I don't mean to, like, stall out over one particular aspect of this topic. I really need someone to explain to me how the pot farm turned into a strawberry farm. Is anybody of any ideas? how in the world does a pot farm turn into a strawberry farm? How did that happen? Where did that come from?

Did they just decide let's make up something cute and sweet? Strawberries! I don't know. Aren't they legally growing it there? The pot? Yeah, so why would they need to cover up the fact that they're growing? You're telling me, I mean, I am pretty sure that there are a lot of Americans that would take the job working at a pot farm. Yeah.

Seems it could be easy. I mean, I'm probably sure you would get, so like my mom when I was a little bitty kid, she worked a number of jobs all at the same time. And she worked over nights at a granola, a factory that packaged granola bars for Quaker. And we would get like bags of granola bars. So I'm just saying, I don't know if they do the same thing at the pot farm, but I'm sure that there's some people in the country that would work at the pot farm to get the equivalent of that. You know, I'm just saying. I've already been the beneficiary of Dana's farm. Yeah.

Well, you haven't got a lot. I'm only giving you like and tomato and a pepper. Proportional. Proportional. Proportional. Very generous. So we're going to revisit this. We've got to cut because we're not done exploring this topic and some of the, oh man,

some of the spin that's happening. It's pretty harsh. It's pretty hardcore. So we're going to dive into all of that. And then we've got, what else we have here? Oh, gosh. I really don't want to talk about Texas politics. Can we just speed on past that little topic?

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I mean, you can kind of look at it. I'm sorry, I could look at the image and I'm like, that's AI. You look like AI. because it just doesn't look nice. It doesn't look right. It doesn't look real. They released their debut album floating on echoes. And then they like a million followers on Spotify.

And then now everyone's like, oh my gosh, it came out that it was they don't actually exist and everything was done with AI. Like the imagery, the music, everything was done using AI. And I hate everything. This is first off, of course they did it with a dirty hippie band. Of course they did. Right? Of course they did.

You look at the photo and you're like, that's AI generated. How do you not look at that? and not realize that it's AI. That's AI. That's a picture from the 60s. Those people look like they're from the 60s. That man on the bottom right, his hair, he is like does not have a, none of them have a 60s vibe. There's all a modernity about it that makes it.

And the fact that it's AI, it's doubly gross. But I feel like all the people who got swindled by it deserve to be. Because it's what you get when you listen to 60s folk rock. I'm going to mess this up. Could psilocybin. Oh, great. Did I do it? That's perfect.

I did it. Is it the magical ingredient for a shorter life? According to one study, it says yes. Now, that doesn't mean that you go trip off your beans on shrooms. It's not what that means. But they said that they were looking at the, I'm not going to get into the super specificity of it. But there's basically a chemical that they were looking at, which could actually be used to increase longevity. Yes.

So it's not like they're telling everyone to go out there and start. I don't even know. Would you just eat the shroom? What do you do with it? Okay. Do you eat? Okay, non-drug question or like drug question from a non-druggy. Do you like cook them? Like do you stir fry them? Would you grill them like you would have a portobella or do you just like eat them? I don't think it's like the food mushrooms. I've never even seen one. Yeah. Like the baddies.

Some of them are so powerful you have to have much, much smaller amounts. Oh, could you? Oh. Can't be stir fry in a portabella and it'd be in one of those psilocybin type things. Oh, okay. I was just curious. But yeah, they said that they think that there is, there's a compound. within it that can contribute towards extending lifespan. So that's what it's about. We had the Amazon package yesterday. Three and ten, we had this one too. And the robot that performed the surgery. Yeah, we had also that as well. We were talking about the Ken Burns. We'll come up with that here shortly and dive into all of that. We have a lot more on the way, including getting into some of the latest with Democrats in New York. We also have Greece that is now enforcing immigration law.

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They can't impede us from doing our job. That's a felony. They certainly can't put hands on an agent. That's a felony. So what happened in California is just another example of protesters becoming criminals. And they've been emboldened by even members of Congress who compare us to Nazis and races and terrorists. I mean, the rhetoric is so high. And I said two months ago, it's going to end up with a loss of life. And we had one the other day in Texas. Well, yeah. I mean, and now this is the stuff that we're seeing. That's Tom Homan. they have to mute 7,000

they have to literally arrest 7,000 illegal aliens a day. Is that, that is crazy math? Yeah. To, I mean, man, that's 7,000 a day. Okay, hear me out. So instead of like video games, let's have like

drone watch, a civilian program that just like, you know, monitors the border so no one else comes in. And then we assist just saying, Then we assist Border Patrol and ice and, you know, catching some bad hombres. Also, why isn't there like a really cool, like alternative country Western band called bad hombres? Like, why doesn't that exist?

Just had that. It's Friday. So thoughts are flying. Welcome back to the program. I think we got everything in all our ducks in a row here. The, this was, this is In Ventura. So this was more footage from this ice raid. And again, it wasn't, they were serving a criminal warrant that was signed by a federal judge.

But this is the raid. This is more footage from it. And people were like, they were having a standoff. So it's not like ice. We've got to make this clear. Ice didn't just roll in and was like, let's start tear gas and everybody. They didn't do that. That's not how it worked.

They rolled in. People were hostile. They were attacked. and they responded. That's like typically how cause and effect works. You know what I'm saying? And then they had all these kids that they, you see some kids in the background? They're running away. Oh my gosh. And then you have these kids that were, that were in trouble. That, because I don't even, they can't even confirm if they were brought there with family members or not. That's another thing no one in the media is talking about. They can't even confirm. And they were asked this.

I saw this on X. They, they can't even confirm that the kids that were brought in or that that were there were even there with like family members or people that they know. They have no idea. These kids might just have been like sold to this pot farm, whoever's running it. And that's how it's working. They just have no choice in it. They've just,

they're just chattel. This is unreal. I re-tweeted a couple of things. Well, actually I responded to Gavin Newsome. Because Gavin Newsome has, this is pretty unbelievable. he's been he was the one saying that it was despicable uh that this is happening uh he was criticizing potis for some reason i have no idea why and then i've seen some democrats go well he should be focusing on what's happening in texas and not this these are i mean real tweets from

these actual people i wanted to pull this one up so he had he had uh he had tweeted about this i guess is he's not having a great he's not having a good day Gavin newsin's not having a good day He had tweeted, where did I responded to it. Bear with me, X is slow today. Everything is nuts. But he had, he was, he was tweeting to it. He was tweeting about it saying, I condemn any assault on law enforcement. Oh my gosh, I can't actually almost read that.

It can't read that one. He basically called someone a feces poster, a fecal poster. He called lips of TikTok a fecal poster because lips of TikTok had shared a video showing one of the illegal aliens pulling a gun on the ice agents. And Newsom tweeted, quote, of course I condemn any assault on law enforcement, you fecal poster. Now do January 6th. Okay. First off, this was attempted murder, not just assault. This is so insane. It, I mean, it was attempted murder. Pulling out a gun and trying to shoot and murder a federal agent that's not just mere assault. Also, is it befitting of his office to refer to people as

fecal posters? Is it, is it, is that good for Gavin Newsom to do that for him to refer to them as such? You think so. And also, let's talk about January 6. Let's do that. Let's talk about January 6 because January 6, the only person that pulled out a gun was a Capitol Police officer who fired it indiscriminately into a crowd of people. He had, he violated the number one rule of firearm safety, which is know your target and what's behind it. He had no clue what was behind his target. He was just going to try to shoot and kill Alicia Babit, which he successfully did. And the left finally discovered a police shooting that they loved. And they celebrated him for it, gave him awards and all of this. That was the only person who had a gun drawn on them and who was killed. So if he wants to compare this to

January 6. Okay, I'm your Huckleberry. Let's take that. Because this is worse than anything ever for January 6. Are you kidding me? This is worse than anything imaginable. Look at all of the attacks on ICE agents recently. And they're going after their families. So the left went ahead and said it. They decided to, they decided to equivocate. So I'm just going to go ahead and say that this is, I mean, it is. It's like way, it's worse than January 6. And here's the other thing. The guy who drew down on the ice agent, he's just running out there free and loose. The FBI wants to give $50,000 to anybody that has information about the guy who opened fire on these federal agents. They want to give out a $50,000 award for it because they don't have him in custody. It was the U.S.

District Attorney for the U.S. Attorney for Central District of California. They said the FBI's offered a $50,000 award for information leading to the conviction of this unknown suspect who fired a pistol at law enforcement officers. I'm not going to say appeared to fire a pistol because he had a gun in his hand and he fired the damn thing. Look how cautious media is being right now. That's a whole other aspect of this story. Well, he may have a shooting instrument.

But if you are even suspected of not being a Democrat and you have a firearm, then you have a full on high clip capacity, super shooty assault machine that runs on unicorn juice. I don't know. That's what they say. they just run with it. But when it's an illegal alien, they're like, well, he appears to be raising an object and it appears to be doing something.

Well, that is a gun that he has, you butt hats. That's a gun. Why are they being so cautious with this? For the love. These are the people who said, oh gosh, what was the kid in Wisconsin? Writtenhouse. Yeah, Kyle Rittenhouse.

They were trying to say Kyle Rittenhouse was just indiscriminately killing black people. And he wasn't. he literally was like shooting at white pedophiles that were trying to attack him. I mean, I'm not just saying white pedophile. Literally one of them went to jail for it. So it's not just like, you know, hyperbole. This is the media that anytime they hear anything,

they immediately, about involving a firearm, they immediately want to condemn everybody who supports the Second Amendment is being somehow culpable in mass murder. But with this, a precious illegal alien at a pot farm? No, this. this dear sir was just raising an object, can it appear to be a gun, but we're stupid reporters.

We don't know because of politics. So, and Newsom is not mad that an angry, violent mob tried to obstruct justice. Wait, it sounds familiar? He was, because that's what they accused people of on January 6th. He's not accused, he's not mad that there was an angry

mob at a potful. arm and they had child laborers and that they were facing off against ice agents. No, no, no, no, no. He's mad at, my Trump. And he said, quote, Trump calls me new scum, but he's the real scum. Oh, my gosh. This is like the worst, like rat beef ever. So boring.

Same thing back and forth. The most unimaginers. He's the real scum. He says, what he says, quote, instead of supporting the businesses and workers that drive our economy in the way of life. These tactics evoke chaos, fear and terror. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What tactics?

The tactic of human trafficking. The tactic of selling fentanyl to our communities. The tactic of literally forcing child labor. What tactics, you know, particularly are you talking about here? This is Strawberry Fields. They act like it's a damn Beatles song. Strawberry Fields forever. But they're just picking strawberries, cane.

Uh, yeah, okay, sure, sure. This is what they're upset over. Rodney Scott, uh, who's customs and border protection commissioner, he said, uh, he was the one who said, yeah, breaking 10 juveniles were found at this facility. All of them here illegally. So Newsom is upset. He's like, well, they're just tearing children away from families. Where? Before they traffic them across the border to go work illegally at pot farms or like when, at what point do you get upset over that?

Right? Jesus. This could have, can you imagine if an ice agent would have been killed and then they would have had to open fire to defend themselves? Can you imagine? To your heavens. At some point, the luck on this is going to run out, guys. This is, it's just, it's horrific. Now, in addition to this, speaking of like ongoing immigration, I've got a couple of other issues about this for you. So this, um, it's not a strawberry field as we've discovered. It's not that at all. And then you, I'm sure that there's going to be more of these happening because when you get a criminal warrant, you can go serve that criminal warrant. It's not the same thing as a raid. So I'm sure we're going to see more of these instances. And I'm sure we're going to see, you already had Democrats that were meeting at town hall saying that people need to be more violent in response to this stuff. So they're, they're trying to agitate as much as possible. They would love to parlay this.

into some kind of momentum for midterms. That's the scary thing about it. In the meantime, in New York, they're struggling to absorb some of the cuts. They act like it's a big giant cut. It's not. But there are some. The bill that the Medicaid programs, because states are being required to step up where it concerns Medicaid so that we're not paying for the stupid programs that New York is doing. The budget chief for Democratic Governor Kathy Hogle was warning that the state is going to suffer a $750 million hit this year because of cuts to the essential plan that take place, take effect, sorry, on January 1st. They said that amounts to a $3 billion annual cut when the state's new fiscal year starts on April 1st. They said no one's prepared to backfill that

$3 billion in cuts from Congress. So they did not spend money wisely and they demand that U.S. taxpayers foot the bill for $3 billion and the difference. Who boy. And the essential plan, plan. People who are, they said that it covers 1.6 million low-income New Yorkers who are eligible for Medicaid and it relies on billions of dollars in federal funding. Guess who takes advantage of that essential plan? Yeah, illegal aliens. That's the other part of it that they're not telling anyone. They're, they wanted to shift and put people on this benefit program. Now, they were trying to say, well, they're not generally eligible for it, but they have been received, they have been signed up for it. There have been news stories on this. So this idea that they have

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we weren't raised with the certainty of mailness that, you know, kind of the confidence that young men in their 30s have, which they haven't earned, they just have it. We don't start feeling that and owning that until our 50s and 60s at a time when we start to be treated as invisible. in society. What is she talking about? Who the hell sits down and is like,

I'm going to devote an hour of my life to the Michelle Obama podcast. Everybody's got a podcast these days. Jiminy Christmas. Welcome back to the show. That's what is this phrase? What did she say? Sorry, certainty of mailness. What does that even mean?

What does it even mean? We weren't raised with the certainty of mailness. Like, what is uncertain about it? I think they mean fatherless homes maybe? No, that sounds smart. Certainty of maleness would be a father in the home, right? I mean, that's what you would think, but that's probably not what they're talking about because that sounds intelligent. Oh.

Who pays her to do this? Who's like, I want to have somebody who's actually like not even mid-Opra sit here and just run about the certainty of maleness. Like, what is the audience for this? Who sits and listens to that? it's she just it's her delivery her words aren't any different from comal harris's it's just her delivery her delivery her delivery's better and so it makes you think for a minute wait a minute maybe it's not word salad nope it is it is it is it's word salad it's like the southern baptist preacher speaking technique you know by the way you can't get mad me i was very southern baptist uh where you you know you are

dramatic and you can say you know you deliver things like that it sounds authoritative like you really know what you're talking about and very important. And you could just be reading, you know, craft mac and cheese box. And it's, you know, sounds like really impressive. I just, yeah, I'm pretty sure we were raised. I mean, if you weren't raised with the certainty of maleness, then you were brainwashed, abusively so. If you had no concept of the certainty of maleness, what is that?

I don't even understand what these words mean that she, when she strings them together like this. Like you, you didn't know that men existed or you did, but you still. questioned it, that sounds like a you problem. That's not a societal problem. That sounds like a you being confused problem. You being raised wrong problem. That's what it sounds like. I don't know. Is this

her own podcast or she had guessed on someone else's? It's hers. Yeah, it's the IMO. IMO, which means in my opinion, I think. Right. But also, I'm Michelle Obama. Oh my gosh. That's so bad. That's so bad. Oh, that's right. Yeah. You know that they thought that they probably

focus script at then. Oh, but, but. We weren't raised at the certainty of maleness. Yeah, we pretty much were. Why is there all of this questioning over it? I mean, it's science. Why are there all these questions? Also, how are they so certain they're against toxic masculinity or masculinity in general

if they can't also admit there is and be certain of masculinity and malice? I don't believe in toxic masculinity. It's the major, the third and fourth wave matriarchal society. I mean, I'm going to tell you, Jensen. Nobody dislikes them bitches more than, you know, the chicks who are not that. Okay? Like, nobody dislikes them more. We got our second hour coming up. We get some fun guests for you today as well. Danny Boy O'Connor is going to be joining us. He was in House of Pain, but he's also a major, major fan of the outsiders. We got a lot of stuff to discuss. Stick around. The folks at Angel Studios, we often talk about the lack of quality and the quantity that comes out of Hollywood and how everything is, it's not just that it's rehashed. that everything seems like a denouncement of you and your way of life. We were just talking about

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And don't forget, premium members get free theater tickets, add free streaming, and much more. That's angel.com slash Dana. What about concerns from some of your Jewish colleagues in particular about him not outright condemning the phrase, globalized the insifada in a recent interview? Some of your Jewish colleagues have said that that could be very disturbing, potentially dangerous. Do you agree with that? You know, there's no candidate in this party that I agree 100% of the time with. to be honest with you.

There's things that I don't agree with Mamdani that he said. But at the end of the day, I always believe, as a Democratic Party chair in Minnesota for the last 14 years, and now the chair of the DNC, that you win through addition. You win by bringing people into your coalition. We have conservative Democrats. We have centrist Democrats. We have labor progressives like me. And we have this new brand of Democrat, which is the leftist.

And we win by bringing people into that coalition. And at the end of the day, for me, that's the type of party we're going to lead. We are a big tent party. Yes, it leads to dissent and debate. And there's differences of opinions on a whole host of issues. But we should celebrate that as a party and recognize at the end of the day, we're better because of it. How many times is he going to say that? At the end of the day, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, how many times is he going to say at the end of the day?

This is the DNC chair, Ken Martin. This is the DNC chair. They cannot even condemn the guy who is endorsing globalize the infantata. And that's that man, Zoran Mandani. Ma'am. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you, top of the second hour. That's, they can't even, they can't even, they can't even, like, disavow that.

And his, his excuses, well, you know, it's a big tent party. It's a big tent. Man, that's a hell of a tent that you got there. Ken, hell of a tent. Yeah, we got, you know, we got Democrats, we got these new Democrats, call leftists. He actually said that. There was a sentence that came out of his mouth as he was trying to sound intelligent. I'm dying to death right now. Wow. So the big tent includes like people who are terrorists then, people who are like globalized the infantata because we all know what that means. So I don't think that there's a limit to how far they can go. The left,

being honest about this. This is pretty wild that that's what your party includes. Well, you know, it's just a big tent. We've got, you know, these, these consens, you don't have any conservative Democrats. Who are the conservative Democrats in the Democrat Party? Betterman. Okay, he doesn't count. He's the only one. He's, he's more Republican than he is Democrat anymore. Good night. They don't have conservative Democrats in their party. They don't have any. They have none. So what does that mean? It's just a big tent party.

You know, we got these Democrats and we got left this new Democrat called leftist. It's like a South Park skit, Kane. So their tent is so big, they invite people and shoot at law enforcement and who are violent and burn buildings. Yeah. So that's how big their tent is. Globalize it. We're a big party. So we can have people who want to rob Israel off the map, globalize the infant hog.

they rethink it or their tent's going to burn down. I bet he thinks that infantata means baby tots, like tater tots. Right? Are those the kind of tighter tots for babies? Is it the intifada? Right? Isn't that how it is? It's not the infant. Dude, these are people who say, wait, Bogoda, right?

These are the Bogota people. These are the Nordstrom pipeline people. Right? So, of course, you have, you know, the Bernie. Do you not have me? out? Clothing for babies. My awesome sound bite? Okay, good. I was real upset over that one. I was leading you down the pathway to they are selling what's called onesies. These are little things

clothing for babies. Crazy. The infantata. They're tots. They're tighter tots, but for infants. That's what he probably thinks. Probably. That's what Ken Martin thinks. How in the world is, how do you, how are you asked, do you condemn the phrase globalized the infantata? And then you you go, well, we're a big tent party. What?

And the pawn stars, hell is that? Best I can do is this. What is that? Good night. And then, of course, he's real mad. He goes, well, I've never condoned the phrase. Okay, well, you've never said that it doesn't belong in your party. You've never said that.

The infantado literally means suicide bombings. Globalizing it means bringing terror everywhere. You absolute buttminton. what it means. It means bringing the terror everywhere. He was asked specifically as to whether

or not someone who espouses that is not just welcome in the party but is welcome to be a leader within the party. And he's trying to dodge it. He's trying to do a Motte Bailey and say, well, no, no one lacks this phrase. That's not what you're actually being asked.

No one's asking you whether or not you support or condemn the phrase. They're asking you whether or not you believe that someone who endorses that ideology not only is welcome in your party, but is welcome to be a leader within your party. And he can't answer that because he knows he can't. What is he going to say? Oh, I don't think, man, Danny belongs here. I don't think anybody.

He doesn't, he's not said that at all. Even on social media, he's been really careful with how he said it. He has never at once said that it has no place in the party. He's just talking about rhetoric. This is more than rhetoric. This is like from the river to the sea kind of stuff. This is way more than rhetoric. This has to do with whether or not, again, you believe that that ideology obliterating an entire people is something that is welcome for a leadership position within the Democrat Party.

And going by what Ken Martin is saying here, it is. It is. That's what it sounds like to me. but he's trying to muddle muddy the waters here a little bit so that he doesn't have to actually answer that I mean that's exactly what that phrase means and so this this is who this party is so are you surprised when you see this stuff that you saw in California and Ventura California with the platform does it surprise you no don't really surprise you does it doesn't surprise me either it's not very surprising. This is this is who they are. This is deflection. Well, it's just a big party.

But they need these people as agitators to get out the vote. So they have to spin these, they have to spin it like this. What else are they going to get people to come out and vote for for midterms? Think about this for a whole, just for a second before we move on. What are they going to get people to come out and support their party for for at during midterms uh putting illegal aliens on medicaid that's not going to go over very well most people believe in enforcement of current immigration law they don't want people coming over the border illegally so what is the what's going to what are they what are they going to lure people in on and apparently mexico they're saying i was turning against u.s immigrants

They said there's anti-gentrification protests targeting Americans in particular have erupted in Mexico City and others. They're mad because they say locals are being priced out of trendy neighborhoods. Are really that many people moving there, Kane? I've always wanted to go and visit because for the food and the, the, you know, archaeology, the sites and all that. But otherwise, I don't know. I don't want the cartel business. Yeah. I mean, there is a, you know, I think there's an aesthetic to being off.

grid, which a good portion of Mexico is. So I guess maybe that's what they're attracted to. No, I just literally want like tamales and tequila. That's like literally a plus. Yeah. But I mean, are there that many people? I've seen this happening everywhere, but now they're really hyping it up as like punishment for the ice stuff here in the United States.

Like, yeah, well, Mexico doesn't like you. And naturally we're seeing the media run with these narratives. Yeah. They said like the like, like, listen to this. This is from The Times, not New York Times, but just The Times. It says, quote, days earlier, a mix of Mexicans and foreigners were slipping, we're sipping on flat whites in this trendy Mexico City neighborhood last Friday when an anti-gentrification protest descended upon them. The Starbucks customers hit the floor as a group of the protesters turned violent,

throwing chairs, smashing windows, looting snacks. People, brandished signs reading expat equals gentrifier and gentrification is colonization. I got a question. Why do they speak Spanish? Hmm? These anti-colonization

protesters in Mexico, why do they speak Spanish? That's a great question. So intriguing. I'm just, you know, why? Why do you guys speak Spanish and not something else? Hmm. maybe maybe it's because you are a colonizer maybe that's why i've never seen people that don't know

the history of their own nation fascinating you guys they're colonizers they said while speaking spanish and worshiping the same gods that the spanish conquistadors worship when they brought them to central america i'm just saying that's kind of how it goes it's just it's like it's like chicken saying down with chicken nuggets. I don't know. It doesn't make any sense. But there's this whole thing on it. They're talking about, oh my gosh, they're so upset. They're so upset the restrictions. And they, the high quality of life and moving into these areas. Maybe then ask about your government. Ask why your government makes things difficult. Ask why you have high crime rates due to per because of cartels. Instead of getting mad at the nation that's tolerated this nonsense for as long as it has.

I mean, you are literally, you are, you're a colonizer. You are the product of colonization and you've continued to colonize. You continue to colonize by speaking Spanish. You continue to colonize by practicing Christianity. You continue to colonize. If you want to have a discussion about colonization in Mexico, then let's talk about literally everything that you do that is an offshoot of a culture that conquered you and brought all of this stuff to your land. I'm so tired of this stuff. That is the story of humanity all across the world, by the way, the conquered and the the conquerors. That is it. No one feels sorry for you. Stop. If you want to change your government, then get the cartels out of the way and stop snorting cocaine. There's an idea. So stupid.

Golly, we live in the dumbest era ever. Now, in addition to this, though, there's more. Because we've got, I wanted to touch on this really quickly. I mentioned this before we go to headlines, because this is fascinating. This Greece is, Greece, of all countries. They've decided that they've had enough with the unfettered illegal immigration coming from North Africa. And so apparently they're suspending all asylum applications. According to the great prime minister, they said that the path to Greece is closed. The messages to all traffickers and all their potential customers, the money they will spend will be entirely wasted. So they, I mean, this is pretty amazing. France needs to do the same. Spain needs to do the same. Spain needs to

do the same. Spain's all socialist, though. They need to do the same. But they're doing this. Greece has had enough of it. So this is probably, I'm sure that there's going to be arguments from other European nations over this, but they said that it's a temporary suspension using the same legal basis that the government applied during the previous crisis back in March 2020. They said it's necessary because they said, and they also added that anyone who's entering the country illegally will be arrested and detained. And then they also had, they had Greeks leader speaking per the EU and they said that there will they said there's going to be a reaction from from the EU on this the EU wants chaos the EU is specifically designed to destabilize the area I do not believe that

the EU has brought any kind of benefit to Europe at all whatsoever it has brought so much destabilization under the guise of bringing all of this goodness and trade et cetera et cetera look at the destruction that it has wrought for that was it a worthy trade because there are nations that don't think so clearly they're bucking the immigration regulations. And then you add the UK that left entirely. We got a lot more on the way as we power towards headlines and the folks who make it happen. Relief factor is the partner. They help people manage everyday aches and pains, especially if you don't want to be hung up on prescription medication. So this can be very beneficial for you to have the relief from relief factor and they make it super easy. For instance, the ingredients that they use, turmeric, omega-3

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or call 1-800 for relief. That's 1-800-the-number-4 relief. And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick-Five. So a lot of people now are saying that Joni Ernst is the next GOP senator on retirement. retirement watch. She's a two-term senator from Iowa. She hasn't really, she hasn't announced her plans for 26. She's gone through the motions of launching another campaign. She's hired somebody to manage it, all this stuff, reports Politico. And she's announced her and will fall fundraiser. But there are a lot of people saying that she might retire than run for re-elections. So that would give Republicans, they set another seat to defend. But honestly, that district is going to be red.

That's going to be a red district. So it's not like they're really going to have to defend it. They just have to get like a really, it's where the primary is the general. basically. But they have never said, they've never said definitively that she's going to run again. So I think if she hasn't already gone on, I mean, just compared to John Cornyn, like John Cornyn's gone all in. If you haven't gone all in already and have said unequivocally that you're running, then you're not going to be running, especially for it, like Senate, because they're trying to maintain that tiny, tiny, tiny little majority that they have there. Canada is seeing U.S. asylum claims surge, as both nations are strengthening their border security, which they

ought to. I mean, that just makes sense. But they're seeing an increase in these asylum applications. And this is according to, well, it's according to a couple of different things, including Bloomberg. But they said that it's increased in the past, you know, in the past year. But why would anybody be seeking asylum in the United States or in Canada from the U.S.? I don't know. That's the big question. Detectives are baffled after a man in Australia stole 53. right foot shoes from a store from a from a from a business you put him in big old duffel bags they're trying to track him down i don't know first off how hard was it how hard is it to track down the guy it was at 7 30 at night how hard is it to track down a guy who takes the time to take only right foot shoes shove them in a duffel bag and then wheel them wheel them literally

wheel them through the mall how how difficult is that they were placed on tables in the middle of a common area of a shopping center. And he's caught on CCTV. He didn't really make an effort to kind of hide himself. He just, you know, had a hat on and that was about it. But yeah, they, 53 right foot boots. Is this going to be a sad story of like a tiny Tim kind of character at home that only has like one right leg? I don't know. Coming up, our friend Carol Roth joins us. Stick with us. If you've noticed dry skin or changing texture that comes with time, you're not alone. And that's exactly what one skin is here to help with. Healthy skin starts at the cellular level. Taking care of your skin isn't just about looks. One Skin's topical supplements make it easy

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And we're not. And that's because of Jerome Powell. In terms of interest, we are number one in the world. He's really mad at him. And you can tell that POTUS is really mad at Jerome Powell because of this headline. quote, Trump official criticizes the Fed chief for ostentatious office renovations. It's like everything is on deck now. Everything is getting attacked.

Everything is germane to it. We're going after now your office decorations. So what does that mean for like the rest of us? Because everybody else is just like, okay, so when do, things get are going to get better, right? It's like that Natalie Portman mean from Star Wars. Things are going to get better, right? I just don't think so. So let's have some real, real truth talk.

Carol Roth, who's our beautiful. best hair on television friend. And it's Happy Hair Fridays with Carol Roth, by the way, who has gorgeous hair. Did I say that once? Because I should say it again. You can find her at Carol Roth.com. She's got her great newsletter up there. And of course, her book, You Will Ong Nothing, Your War with a new financial world order

and how to fight back should be a horror film. It really should be. It's one of the scariest things you'll ever read. And she is, you know, she worked in investment banking. She's on TV. You guys know Carol. She joins us now via video. Good to see you, my friend.

And when is this? they really don't like each other, which does not help the negotiations. I don't think that attacking the office decorations are going to help. So what is the way out here for this? Oh, this is such a sordid tale because, you know, in many ways, they're both right and they're both wrong. Trump is absolutely right with Jerome Powell when he says he's been a terrible Fed chair. He's been a terrible Fed chair.

The Fed itself is terrible. So it's pretty easy to be a terrible Fed chair when you're in the United States. ahead of a terrible institution. But he supported the economy way too long after COVID. We were in a quote unquote emergency, and they were doing emergency funding while the, you know, S&P 500 and NASDAQ were hitting all-time highs like in June of 2020. You know, he did too much. He cut too much.

Then he said there was going to be no inflation. Then he was late to raising. And then he was late to lowering. So, I mean, he's just been wrong the whole time. And I think we're probably still somewhat high. So that part, we completely agree with Trump on. That being set, one of the things that gets lost in all of this discourse is that because of our fiscal foundation, our fiscal situation, the fact that our debt to GDP is now north of 120 percent, that we are running war-level deficits,

even though we're not in a war and that the economy's expanding, you know, We're in a very precarious financial position. And the people, the central banks that used to buy our debt because, you know, we are the world's reserve currency, they have not been buyers for like the last 10 or 11 years on net. So the people who are buying longer term debt, the debt that's, you know, a 10-year bond, let's say, are price-sensitive buyers. And they have to figure out what kind of a return they want. for having the government hold their money for 10 years.

And given that situation and the fact that there is less demand for our debts, and we're putting in more and more supply, both by, from a refinancing standpoint, as well as new supply from our deficit, at the longer term horizon, what we call the long end of the yield curve, the Fed doesn't control that. The market controls that. And so supply and demand takes effect. And so the fiscal decisions are what's running that. We saw that back at the end of, I guess it was the end of 2023, 2024. I don't mind.

The years all blend together. But when the Fed, the last time they cut interest rates, you would have expected the yield on the 10 year to go down, but they didn't. They increased. And it's, again, because they don't control it. So yes, Trump is absolutely right. Jerome Powell's not great. The Fed's not great.

But the decisions that they're making in terms of Congress, the fiscal decisions, the amount of debts. And again, let's be clear, the bad fiscal position that was handed over from the Biden administration. Because if that weren't the case, they wouldn't have to negotiate this in the same way. That is what is limiting his ability to refinance our debt at cheaper rates. Oh, there's so much that goes into it. I wish it was something as simple as, well, I would just wish Powell could just, you know, just cut the rates. Let's just do exactly what POTUS is asking for. I know that there's, getting the card ahead of the horse, there are unforeseen consequences. Well, unforeseen maybe, not to you, but to maybe some others, because we do have a serious financial illiteracy problem, as you've said, many times, and it's true. But I just, I feel like there's, there's more that he could do without, he doesn't have to go a whole hog. There's definitely more that he could do. is it and I hate even bringing this like aspect of analysis to it is it because Powell is just it's a political hindrance he just he just dislikes Trump and he just and he doesn't like the way Trump is a handling it you know and and Trump can play hard ball pretty hard and I feel like Powell isn't he's not he doesn't receive that well I just I'm just pulling my hair out trying to figure out why it's such an impasse yeah I think that the Fed is always late there's They're not ones that get ahead of the curve, no pun intended. They're always behind and they're always behind schedule.

I think that he's not necessarily being political now, but he might have been political when he did the cut right before the last election. So I think, you know, I would chalk it up now probably more to the fact that they're just bad at their jobs and they don't understand what it is they're doing and they just look at their own tools and not sort of the broader set of things that's going on. So I think that that's more in play. But the reality is, Dana, through the treasury function and through some sort of interesting out-of-the-box thinking,

we could do other things that would lower rates. We don't just need the Fed to do it. We could come up with all kinds of things. They could revalue the gold on their balance sheet. They could come up with the scheme. they're talking about making Frannie and Fetty, you know, truly public companies again, and they could have people take, you know, very cheap lows against the equity of their house for, you know, Americans to invest in long-term treasuries.

There's a lot of different, like, out-of-the-box weird things that they can do. I think what you are getting at in terms of the other side, the flip side of that, is that there's a trade-off. And the reality is that given the situation, you can't just do these things and expect that there isn't an equal and opposite reaction. Otherwise, you know, you believe the MMT people that think that we can just come up with money from nowhere. And if we do these things, the release valve on the other side, the equal and the opposite reaction is likely to be inflationary. So that is the trade off. If we get to a way where we're going to lower the rates, whether it's through the Fed or

these other machinations, the concern is that that actually ends up being accomplished. And in some way or another, and that that ends up accelerating inflation again, which I've said, I think, to you many times and certainly many times elsewhere, I think is the likely scenario. But what it doesn't do is we can fix the problem temporarily. Let's say we got the rates down to 1% zero. Pick a small number. And let's say we somehow could refinance all the debt, even though it's not all coming due, but as much as we possibly could,

and we put ourselves in a better position, unless we fix that overspending problem, unless we shrink and eliminate that deficit and get things back where we're growing this country and we're growing the GDP, but not doing it through deficit spending, then we're going to just be back in the same situation in a couple of years.

So we have a path to buy us time, but those things that they can do to buy us time and make sure it doesn't, you know, all go to a heck in a handbasket right now, it doesn't solve the problem. It just purely buys us time. Right. We're talking with our friend Carol Roth and buying time. That brings us to that one big, beautiful bill that finally passed and went to Potus's desk. You're so excited about it. You can just read the love on Carol's face for this bill because that's like we're going to have to deal with this again during an election.

cycle. I mean, there's so much in here that's, you know, all of the relief, which is temporary, and I felt like not enough lawmakers were honest about it. Where does that put taxpayers? Where does that put us in this big mass? Well, as I've said many times, I always thought the big beautiful bill needed some ozempic or a fat shot as Trump liked to call it, right? It's a little too big, maybe not as beautiful as we had hoped. There were things that were very important in there. And some of the tax policy, both on the personal side and the business side, was critically important because at the end of this year, we were facing one of the biggest tax hikes, if not the biggest tax hike of all time. And given our precarious financial position, one thing we cannot do

is create a situation that is very restrictive in terms of the economy. So that's, you know, not great. The thought that the tax cuts, though, and the, you know, extension in many cases, there there's some new things in there, but most of it is an extension is going to juice all this new economic activity is a little bit concerning to me. Because when you think about the first time the tax cuts and job acts, we went from restrictive tax policy to this better tax policy and that unleashed growth. But we're now in that situation. So the extension of it doesn't create that new push, maybe a little bit for anybody who is holding back thinking that there would be an expiration and certainly for some of the, you know, small new additions that came in.

But as a whole, does it really provide rocket fuel for the economy? No, what it prevents us from sliding backwards that would have happened. It prevents us from a worse situation that we would have gone back to. But does it move it completely forward in this crazy way, you know, long term? I don't see that either. So I think we're in somewhat of the same situation. we certainly need more deregulation to help provide that rocket fuel and that's something they said they're going to get to. So we'll just take them at their word right now and hope that that comes to pass. But I didn't see and I didn't hear communicated what the plan on the spending side was. And I don't think that it went far enough.

And if they weren't able to make it go far enough now, which I understand there are political limits, I would have liked to hear a strategy that says, well, we can't. We can't do this now because, hey, if we just cut off spending, we would also take the economy because it's been propped up by government spending as well as the consumer. But here's our plan to shift it over the next couple of years. And so maybe that's a plan. We just have not. We give them appellate opportunities. We have not heard what the plan is to take all the doge and all of these issues and make that into a long-term plan so that we can

bring those deficits down to, frankly, they should be zero, right? We should have a balanced budget or a surplus over time. And I know that's going to take some time, but it would be great by the end of the term to at least have half of it addressed and be moving in that direction. And so I just don't feel like we got there. I'm not saying that we won't. I'm not saying there wasn't a plan. I just don't know at this point what it is.

And I feel like they tried to kind of do that with floating the idea of pocket rescission. but I don't think not enough people know that process. And then like you were saying, there wasn't any specificity as to what would be allowed to languish and go past that deadline. And then the funding run out. Like there's not really strong messaging on that. No. And it's confusing. And the whole process is frankly confusing.

And I think that's part of the frustration. I think that people don't want one big beautiful bill. They want small beautiful bills. They want little things where they understand this is the issue. And we're not going to give on this. So, you know, and take on this. We're just going to say, hey, here's this. And let's agree.

And then we'll move forward. That's what, you know, small government people. And frankly, most of Americans want so that they can understand that there's full transparency. And it doesn't become politicized. And it's not what we got. I think there is an opportunity. They have some great communicators, including Trump, on their team, that can go out and tell us what the next phase of the process.

which we're all kind of hanging on by thread. Unfortunately, the next phase of the process that was, you know, brought to our door and, you know, brought in and thrown on the doorstep as of yesterday as a new tariff war, which is not exactly what everybody expected in terms of to be the fuel, right? Before I let you go, I got to ask about that because now we've got 35 percent, what is it, 35 percent on Canada? And then he was talking about maybe a 50 percent on Brazil because of the Bolsonaro. It sounded like it was punishment for the trial Bolsonaro. I don't know if that's maybe the best thing on which we are going to bank tariffs, but that's what's being floated. Last quick thing on that, your thoughts, because I don't think that that doesn't contribute

in a helpful way to this. If we want to grow our way out of the mess that we're in, and we all know we're in a mess, we need certainty. We need certainty for consumers. We need certainty for businesses. Yes. We cannot operate it with things shifting on a data. day basis based on somebody is getting angry. So let's come up with a plan. Let's not, as we've just

cut taxes, let's not tax businesses and consumers through tariffs on an ongoing basis. And let's just move on and take your win and be happy and get back to business. Take that win. Absolutely. Carol Roth, you can find her newsletter, Carolroth.com slash news. Go and sign up. It's free for you. Always good to see you, my friend. Thank you so much. Glad that you had safe travels and have a wonderful weekend. Let's be honest, big pharma profited off of your fear while silencing your voice. They controlled the narrative, blocked access to real treatments, and then told you what you could and could not take, all to protect their bottom line. Medicines like Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, the bendazole, were all labeled dangerous and dismissed, even though millions found relief and recovery from them. This Independence Day, all-family pharmacy, is standing up for your freedom with their biggest sale of the year.

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It's time for Florida man. All right. So first and foremost, this is a really long story. This guy was very busy. A Florida man saw the back door of somebody's house left open, so he went inside and the intruders in custody because he got shot. His guns save lives. He goes inside in the person who lives there heard strange noises. And the guy charged at them, according to W-O-F-L-T-V-V-T-V. And the guy who lives there called out and said,

is somebody here? And that's when the intruder charged towards him. He emerged from a hallway and charged at him. The man fired a single shot into his leg. Deputies responded. The man who fired the shot was not injured. And so the guy was, he's being held on no bond. He's got all kinds of charges against him.

But yeah, that's, that's, wow. Guns save lives, they do. Florida man known as Sugar Daddy opens fire in a motel because he was mad that his car got towed, according to the police. And he said, quote, all y'all going to learn today, end quote. Well, he apparently was the only one who learned Ronald James Davis. This means 51 years old, first off. What? What? Crime makes you ugly and old. just saying. He's accused of first degree murder, an attempted murder.

It was a 4.30 in the morning plantation in Florida, literally like a South Florida city, west of Fort Lauderdale. He shot and killed a dude. Guy was laying face down on a pool of blood. Women's inside the room. They both were shot. The woman identified Davis as the

killer. He showed up to the hotel because he was mad. He got a traffic ticket and his car was towed and he approached a victim threatened to beat her up if she didn't pay. He was I guess trying to collect money, shake down. people for money so he could get his car back. And he was pounding on the hotel room door and everything

went to Hades. That's what happened. So maybe just, I don't know, don't get your car towed and then that's not a good way to hustle for money to try to cover your bills. Third hour on the way. Our friends over at Keltek, Keltek makes some very good stuff. And you guys are very familiar with Keltek. The PR-57, as you guys know, this

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Legal immigration. Okay, everyone, just stop talking for just a second. Gillian, please stop talking. You all are all talking at the same time. It's impossible to hear or understand. When I say stop talking, please stop talking. Thank you. Okay, you don't have to be a bitch about it.

You can just be like, well, let me jump in here. That's just because you're not a great host and you don't know how to handle your guests. and that doesn't mean that you shift into like bad mommy mode and then try to like condescent to them and dress them down most of whom are probably people with more achievements and accolades than you'll ever hope to achieve in your shorter career but that's not a move to do you don't do people like that on your on your program on your program on your program on your program on your program i don't even know if that's her program i don't even know who this chick is but all i know is that she cannot run a program or manage guests welcome back to my program dana lash with you uh we're at the top of this third hour we've got a lot happening and uh my friend dany boy o'connor is going to join us uh later on because he's got a book out he's obsessed with The Outsiders movie and the book, which was a great book. I mean, it created a whole genre in publishing. And he's going to join us to chat and hang out for a little bit, so you don't want to miss.

So that was, was it in MSNBC or CNN? That's CNN. I can't even tell the difference. I don't even know who these people are. Like if the life of the planet depended on me correctly identifying these people, I'd be like, we're all dead. It's not happening. I don't know who any of these people are.

Nobody's got time for that on a Friday in July. Come on. Nuttiness. Absolutely nuttiness. Yeah, it's the, yeah, it basically is like the Thunderdome there. It just seems rude, though. Like, oh, stop it. But all you have to do is say, wait, wait, wait, let's go one at a time.

But you don't have to sit here and try to flex and be like, when I say stop talking, I mean, stop talking. I would have gotten up. If I would have been at that table, I'd have ripped off my mic, throwing it down and left. There's no way. There was no way I'd be letting some woman talk to me like that. No way. So would you, what would you have done? I don't know.

I don't tend to talk over people as much. So I don't think I'd be in that situation. Unless it's about hating old people or, oh my God. It's about your probiotic. I knew you were going to do something like that. I knew it. You didn't know anything.

I was just merely, I had a feeling. You're my friend. I was being observational. Yeah. I was observing past things is all. That's the only thing. Thank you. So the, yeah, they're having a time.

They're having a time. I sometimes I wonder if they regret trying to diversify the ideology represented on that network more because that's ultimately what you end up getting. It's pretty crazy. A couple of other things to touch on. We had, let me pull this up. We're talking about some of the GOP stuff. I really don't want to get into. Everybody heard the Texas story, right?

Oh, boy. So in Texas, you got John Cornyn, who's a senator. not a lot of people like John Cornyn because he's been there for a long time. And typically when you tend to be in a place for a long time, when you tend to be there for as long as he's been there, you kind of don't, he's, his record is kind of haunting him a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, a lot of bit. He's, you know, he's a lot of people think he's a rhino. Some people think he's ineffective. Some people think he's an effective rhino. I mean, he's got baggage, right? So it doesn't help. And he's, but he's been running, I mean, I don't even know how long. He's been in, he's been in

office for forever. He's been running unopposed essentially in the Senate for, for some time, well, until now. So you have the attorney general of the state of Texas, Ken Paxton, who has filed to run in the primary to challenge Cornyn. And he's been, so far, he's, he's put up a good challenge. The White House hasn't waited in yet, in it. And, and Cornyn was meeting with POTUS apparently earlier this week, according to Punchball News. Paxton's already tight with with POTUS. Because remember, Ken Paxton was up there in New York when Trump was going through that New York witch hunt, which was a really stupid trial, by the way. That was the dumbest case ever.

I can't even believe it was prosecuted, but here we are. It's New York. And he was up there. Remember, he was in the background, like he was a part of like the hype squad that went out there. And all of this, you know, yes, I'm sure he believed in the rule of law and that it was being subverted in that case. But I also think that he was looking out for, well, I'm going to be running against John Cornyn at some point. so I want to make sure that I get that coveted Trump endorsement. So he's challenged John Cornyn, and it's already been, I mean, it's barely started and it's already so nasty.

Well, then yesterday it got nastier. Dun, dun, done, in days of our Texas Republican politics. I mean, you're talking about a senator who could be working with all of you. So his wife, Ken Paxton's wife, Angela Paxton, by the way, did they ever respond to you? I mean, it's been a day. They're not going to call. I'm not going to grill him. I mean, I like what Pakistan's done.

But I'm not an idiot. You know, I like what he's done. But I know that there's a lot of people talking about a lot of issues with him. Anyway, his wife came out and said, basically, according to all the documents that had been reviewed and publicly reported on that he committed adultery. I don't know if he committed adultery again past the 2018 affair that he had. And he came out and talked about it in the press. And I guess they got over it. marriage continued. But she filed for divorce yesterday and that was one of the, that was cited in

the documents that were made public, was she was basic, she's accusing him of infidelity. So I don't know if it's, if it's based on that 2018 affair or if it's like something new. That's one thing that wasn't made clear. But it's already, you can imagine how that's fitting into a nasty Republican primary. So here's the question. And I don't mean, I'm not trying to diminish anything. I just want to get right to the point of the issue. Does it matter? Nobody wants to talk about this on the Republican side of things.

Doesn't matter. Does marital infidelity matter in elections? Is it meaning do you think it's an effective weapon? Is it effective when it's weaponized against someone? The answer to that question is yes. It is effective when weaponized. It is effective when weaponized. But I don't think it matters.

very much. Now, there is an argument to be made that, hey, if he's going to do this to his wife, he might do this to the state of Texas or the country or whatever. I don't buy into that necessarily so much. So I don't look at this as something that may automatically kills his chances to become senator, but I think it is an effective weaponization. I don't know if it is an effective of weaponization. I've seen it happen. I don't know if it's mattered since Bill Clinton. Well, I take that back. It kind of, no, no, I don't take it back. It hasn't mattered since Bill Clinton. And you can bring up John Edwards, but John Edwards, if you remember, didn't get in trouble because he had an affair. John Edwards gotten in trouble because of how badly he tried to cover

it up. When John Edwards screwed around on his wife with that Ryle Hunter, he paid his campaign surrogate to pretend that he was the one having the affair. And then when she had the love child, he basically had, he paid this guy off just to claim that baby as his own. And I mean, that guy was married and had to deal with that in his own marriage. And he was using campaign contributions to cover it. And then there was that rich heiress, bunny melon whose money he was taking to pay for all of it. So he got in trouble for campaign for like all kinds of fraudulent spending and all of this. That's why he got in trouble. And the cover-up is usually always worse than the crime, for the most part, in instances like this. And so they

weren't mad at him because he had an affair. They got mad at him because he was using Bunny Mellon's money to pay off people in his campaign to pretend that they were the ones having the affair and that his love child was actually theirs. If you remember, they got caught on that CCTV footage at a hotel that somebody sold to the National Enquirer. National Enquirer actually got to report some journalism. And nobody else would touch the story and they reported on it. And that's how it went gangbusters. he hit it and they were trying to say, well, National Enquirer reported on it so it's trash. Yeah, that's guilt by association.

That doesn't really work. So it came out and then he went to court and then his wife was sick. She had cancer. His wife had cancer. Terminal. Oh my gosh. It was just a giant. All of that, all of that contributed.

But that being said, if it had just been an affair, I think he would still have been Democrats' golden boy. He was, they were, he was going to be the one that they had before Barack Obama. Barack Obama was not the next one after Clinton. It was John Edwards. they wanted John Edwards. He was the VP pick for Carrie. They wanted him.

He was the golden boy. And they thought that they could, you know, they thought they really had it made, but turned out, you know, they didn't. So I don't know, because it didn't really, a lot of people talked about it with Trump, the first term. But I think the thing that made it difficult in talking, because I agree with you. And I've said before, I'm like, well, if you can't, you know, I, you know, it's a judge of, it's a judge of, character in that if they can't stay true to their wives, can they stay true to the voter? However, again, I think that's not the way to look at it. You've got to look at the currency of this. Everybody has a currency. Some people want public adoration. Some people want power. And if that currency

is being served, they will be faithful to that currency. They will be faithful to whatever gets that currency. More so maybe than they would ever be within the bonds of marriage. And that's one thing that you can always count on and predict with certain politicians. So I think that's in some cases makes it different. With POTUS, for his first term, it seemed like everything was already resolved. And I think that's what made it harder to stick. Like he was on good terms with his first wife, on good terms with his second wife. They all seemed to be reconciled to how everything went down and they were fine and everybody was getting along. None of his kids were Hunter Biden. Nobody was on drugs and running out and partying. You didn't see any bleary-eyed photos of any Trump's kids

pouring out of the club at two in the morning, hopping into a car all drunk as skunks. You didn't see any of that. And I think that kind of, I think that tempered any criticism. This is what's different, though. This is what's different. So I am with, I just think that, I don't know, I just think, it's just the whole thing. I, with Paxton, there's a lot of, of rumors and there are a lot of rumors. There's a lot of different stuff that I've heard over the years. I don't know. I've never like put stock in any of. I don't pay attention to any of it. I just know that there's a lot of whispering and, you know, all of that. Whether or not that hurts him, I think, depends upon the negatives that John Cornyn has. And also how are people,

how badly do they want to get rid of John Cornyn? And how does this play out? I think some of this is going to predicated upon the nastiness of their dissolvement of their marriage. So if it gets nasty between them, that could potentially overshadow his Senate bid. And then that, yeah. Yeah, I agree with that 100%. So, I don't know.

That's just kind of like the big thing with it. I'm not going to report on it breathlessly. Like it's TMZ. However, I, I also think that for people who bring up questions about fidelity and they say that that may be a mark against a candidate for them, I don't think that you can get mad at those people for saying that. Either, I mean, you're going to be like, you're going to pretend to be family first or you're going to be family first. You're going to pretend to be principals first or not. I think it's just, I think it exposes people as grifters when they get mad at other individuals that they claim are on their side for espousing observations that, everybody held 10 years ago that everyone kind of agreed on and they think, yeah, that's a character, that's a market against somebody's character. Believe me, I get, you know, being Machiavelli probably better than most of these people do. However, what I don't like are people getting

attacked because they say, well, yes, you shouldn't be cheating on your wife or yes, you should, you know, keep it within the bonds of marriage, whatever. And I see that happening all over social media. If that's not something that you use as a standard of value, then that's fine for you. But don't look down or attack somebody else that's done probably more than you have for the conservative cause because they disagree. And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five. All right.

So, there was, let's see, two people facing, oh, no, I'm not doing that one. Oh, we're not doing any of those. I don't like those. Now, there's a billboard and billboards in Cleveland that are drawing a lot of criticism because they say, I buy, it says, I buy crack houses and your house is trash. People are, literally, that's what it says. Is your house trash? And then it's like a guy in glasses. And so it's drawing some criticism. One of them, one of the billboards reads, yes, I buy crack houses. People are upset over it. There's a lot of backlash from community members and city officials. One

particular sign has been taken down, but all the others have remained in place. Local real estate investors say the signs go too far. Somebody goes, what was your point? I didn't understand. Well, the point was that they want to buy your crack house. That's the point. The guy wants to purchase your house of crack. Or if your house is trash, he would like to buy your trash house. I mean, I think that's kind of the point, right? It seems pretty direct.

Isn't there the whole point of why they're upset? It's a crack house and a trashy house. A trashy crack house. Rarely are the crack house as boozy. You know, I'm just saying. Like, I don't even understand what is this is the sign. And then these investors are like, I don't, what is the point I don't understand? Well, he wants to buy your trashy house in cash.

That's what I get out of it. Yeah. Do you know that your suitcase is 58 times dirtier than a public toilet seat? What? I believe it. Who else wipes their suitcase down every time before and after you go through security? And then when you get home? Just me?

Yeah, it's 58 times dirtier, according to a new study. And the wheels, obviously, are the dirtiest. So you, you know, like they found like staff, a bunch of stuff I can't say and grody stuff on these things. Don't lick your wheels. Don't lick your suitcase wheels. Nobody does that. But I think about it now. I bet some people do. I've wheeled my car into, or my suitcase into the bathroom before. So imagine rolling around on the bathroom floor that whole.

I don't take my suitcase back into my room when I get back from traveling until I wipe the wheels down. Really? I always have like the little like wipes on me always and I don't take it into my house. I can't say that for everybody else in my family, but I don't take it. I am that person. I, the handle. No, no, this makes me so sick. This is a travel and leisure story.

So let's see. They're going to bed, they're going to ban lead ammunition for hunting and shooting in England, Scotland, and Wales. Yeah, they are. It's restrictions on shots and toxic metals. What do you think the lead comes from? It comes from space. Where does the lead come from? Comes from the planet that you're on.

How is it all of us? If it's in the planet, how is all of a sudden toxic? You know what? Lead's toxic if you could shot with it. So just don't do that. We got a lot more on the way. Do you like the outsiders? I mean, there's some really cool stuff that's happening on a friend, Danny Boy O'Connor.

He's doing some really big things in Tulsa. He joins us about his new book next. Stick with us. Not able to catch all three hours of the Dana Show? Subscribe to the full podcast and get news and laughs delivered in short, easy to digest episodes. Ideal for your busy lifestyle on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you.

We're at the bottom of this third hour. And I got to tell you, so you guys know Simple Mind is one of my favorite groups ever. And New Gold Dream is one of my absolute favorite songs of all time. and I played this like bumper music at some point and I got a message on Instagram and my jaw hit the floor because it's Danny Boy O'Connor who messaged me on Instagram

and it was like one of those things where I mean this guy's like a legend and he was a part of like a legendary musical moment like or era in the United States. I'm like oh my gosh and then he and then not only does he also love that song but then you realize that he loves

a particular author that made a major impact on you when you were growing up and a story that resonated through the generations. And I'm talking about S.E. Hinton and the outsiders. Which that literally created an entire genre in publishing. There was no YA anything before Hinton came out with her with her books. She had five. I mean, boom, boom. She was a teenager when she wrote this book. And she had a bestseller. She was like famous out of the gate. Very few authors get to enjoy that not just the not to write. but knowing that there is such widespread appreciation for their work as she did. Well, then I was reading more about it, and I saw that Danny Boy O'Connor really was so invested

in the story. Like, most people get memorabilia. You know, they'll get like a signed copy of the book. You know, maybe if they're lucky, they might get, you know, copy of the actual screenplay. He got the house. He literally went. He was in Tulsa, bought the outsider's house, the actual craftsman home where they filmed it. So I think I can safely say without any debate that nobody is a bigger fan of the outsiders than Danny Boy O'Connor. And I doubt that there's a bigger film fan anywhere than Danny Boy O'Connor who joins us now via video. My good friend, Danny, God love you. I'd so good to see you.

So good to see you to get to talk to you. It's been a long time coming. And I definitely remember reaching out to you. You have a fantastic choice in bumper music. I said I think the only one who comes close was the late great Art Bell. We had a very eclectic, tasted music. Some of it I didn't think I would like,

but you hear it long enough and you'd learn to love it. But you and me, I feel like if somebody found my iPod, they'd probably return it to you because we like a lot of the same stuff. And for a dude who grew up doing hip-hop all his life, people who survived that I'm like into New Wave

or, you know, the cult or Sisters of Mercy or all of the stuff that I like. That's really what I listened to full-time and have done since day one. but yeah that's so good to meet you and I love your show and yeah well thank you I'm a big fan of yours as well and the fact that I just had my musical taste affirmed I'm like gonna forever keep that it's gonna be my epitaph I wanted to talk to you about your efforts in Tulsa because I also love the outsiders and I think I read this thing about it where it was talking about how libraries and teachers really helped maintain the popularity of that book through you know multiple generations and that's how I first read it in school And it was a non-condescending way of talking about the differences between people and a search for inclusion. And I think it was so non-condescending because it was written by a teenager. And I think this book has impacted everybody in some way, but you most significantly, because when you were in Tulsa,

I read that you had somebody that was taking you around to look at where they were filming the outsiders. And you saw this house and you ended up buying this house. Yeah, so some of that is correct. I went on tour and we played Tulsa in 2009. We played the famous Canes Ballroom. We had never played as House of Pain, my original group, but we played it as another group called the Coconosa, which was an amalgamation of House of Pain and a couple other groups.

And it was that tour that I ended up stumbling upon Tulsa. And then I realized, oh, my God, this is where they filmed The Outsider. So I went looking for locations, never in a million years that I think I'd buy the house. But for the next five years, God had a funny plan. And I kept making my way to Tulsa somehow. And at year five, after the fifth year of coming here, I realized that if somebody doesn't step up and do something, this house might get torn down.

And it was going to. Went and found the owner. It was really hard to find her. She was living in Florida. She inherited the house. And she had tenants that were eight months behind in rent. And so we told her we would be interested in hearing her offer. And when I first found it in 2009, they were asking $42,000 for the house.

I ended up, I'll cut to the chase, I ended up paying $15,000 for the house. Jaw drop. Couldn't believe I was the new owner of the outsider's house. But when I got here to Tulsa and saw what I actually bought, I realized it was a fair deal. But that's where my life story changes because when you're 6'5. And an alpha male, for me, it was hard to ask for help. But when I got here, I had to really admit that I didn't know what I was doing. And I'm not the guy who's like, I'm not the contractor guy or not how to build you things.

I'm a creative director, but I'm not like in that area. And I ask for help. And I tell you what, Dana, the people of Tulsa put me on high, surrounded me. They cut the lawn. They fixed the roof. They painted the, whatever. They were so just like. Invested in it.

Yeah. Yeah. And I decided, you know what? I'm never going home. And home was Los Angeles, California for the last 48 years. And after six months of working on this project, I said, I'm moving to Tulsa. and I've been here for eight years. I love everything about it.

The people here are great. And there's so much opportunity here. Not only what, you know, there's a rich music and film history here, but there's a budding film industry growing on here right now. And Leon Russell is also from here. So there's a church studios right down the street from our museum that has also been restored into an incredible museum. And it's a handful of things that are going on right now.

When I first got here in 2009, you couldn't say all of the things that I can name out that are that are popping right now in Tulsa but right now Tulsa's on fire in the best possible way and uh it's it's i couldn't imagine living anywhere else and you're helping to put it on the map uh i want to tell everybody about danny's new book the oral history of the outsider staying gold how s e hinton's novel and francis ford coppola's movie became cult classics and launched today's hollywood icons to super and because there were i mean it was an amazing i know it was done like on a shoestring budget because I know when Coppola was making this movie,

he was, you know, he was coming out. He already had the Godfather's success. This was coming out in 83. But he was able to put together this amazing, like a dream cast of who you would want to play in this. The Brad Pack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amelia West of Es, Tom Cruise, Matt Dillon,

C. Thomas Howell, Ralph Macho, Diane, Lane, Leif Garrett. I mean, everybody. These guys went on, you know, and took the 80s over by Storm. So yeah, it's an incredible cast, but nothing beats the author. An incredible director, too, Coppola, I'm a huge. He's one of my favorites. I mean, goodness. But I told Susie Hinton when I first met her, I said,

nobody has had me more in fear to meet the person. And I've met everybody growing up in Hollywood that you could meet. I said, Susie, I almost canceled on our date because I just didn't think I had it in me to do it. And she said, but we hit it off straight away. she's a fantastic woman. She wrote the book when she was 15 and a half. And she donated to this museum too, not to interrupt you, but she didn't she donate to that? She's the number one supporter financially and just of giving us the blessing.

But her story is really what hit home for me because, you know, she wrote that book at 15.5. She failed English, D plus and creative writing that year. The book has never been out of print in over 42 years. It sells every year. There's a new crop of outsiders fans. The reason it becomes a movie is because a librarian noticed a tipping point with her students. She said, Danny, the boys would read any, the girls would read anything I give them, but the boys, not. And she said, I gave him this book and they devoured it.

So she said, I'm going to have a hundred of them right to Francis Ford Coppola, of all people, and ask him to look at this book and perhaps turn it into a movie. I love that story. I said, why would you do that? I said, he was the godfather one and two in Apocalypse Now at that time. She goes, yeah, but he did such a masterful job staying true to the black stallion. that I thought he'd be a shoe in. And so there's so many courses of miracles that had to happen for this book to turn into a movie,

the movie to turn into a museum, and now the museum to turn into a Broadway musical, which just took four Tony Awards and is, you know, sweep in the nation. It's going to kick off here in October at the Tulsa PAC. I love that. That's amazing. It just keeps growing and growing.

I love this story with Koblo. He said that when he got, I read an interview where he said that he got this big, thick packet and all these kids had their signatures. And he said, I looked at every signature and you could tell they were all individual, like these little signatures. He was like, I had to read it after that. I had to. He got on a flight. They sent it to the wrong address in New York. And then his assistant brought it back to L.A. And he was getting on another flight to go to New York. And he said, there was nothing to read on the plane. So I dug in that packet and I started finding all these letters.

By the time I got off that flight, I knew we had to make this movie. And he did it. And he fought to make it happen in Tulsa. And I know, I don't want to give all the mysteries away of the museum. But I know that there was a mystery involving the director's chair because you have Coppola's director's chair. It's at, I know you have tons of stuff at the house, but you have that chair. It went missing for a while. Well, yeah, it was stolen on the set of Rumblefish, which is also an SC hidden book. And, you know, Coppola also did that movie. Came out the same year. Yeah, two weeks later, after wrapping the outsiders, he went right into Rumblefish, also filmed in Tulsa.

And I guess somebody experiencing homelessness at that time decided they needed a chair. and Coppola, everybody broke character to go save his chair. And he said, guys, get to, we're here to make a movie. If he wants the chair, let him have it. So a wonderful man named Gary Johnson, a Tulsa, retired Tulsa PD guy had found the chair two weeks later behind a liquor store. A guy was living there and he was playing games on the train tracks. They thought he was trying to kill himself. So he was there to evict him.

He said, you grab your chair. Wait, where did you get that chair? And he's like, that's not my chair. You want that chair? So he said, Danny, I had that in my man cave for 34 years until you, got to town, he said, that was going to Fahala with me, but since you're doing this, this incredible work, we want to donate it to you. And so that began my journey. And then, and I started to build an incredible collection. And there's nothing that comes close to

our collection of not only her books, movie memorabilia from wardrobe to cars in the movie. And now I collect all of her work in the dream is to do an S.E. Hinton Museum. So, that's amazing. And I think that definitely deserving. I don't know anybody that has so many hits at that young, like right out of the gate was writing bestsellers. You did. We're talking to our awesome friend, Daniel Boy O'Connor and the oral history of the outsiders, his new book, the early orders you can do right now, Barnes & Noble, 25% off today's last day.

You were so faithful to the restoration of this house. I was reading about how detailed you were getting. Like, you were even, you were like looking at the, like, for the lack of a better word, like screen grabs, trying to get the tint of the, of the, the wallpaper correctly, like marks on appliances. Like, you were so faithful to this. What inspired that? Probably my OCD.

You know what? I knew that I was such a fan, and I knew that there were a lot of fans like me, and I knew that if it didn't pass a test, you know, it was not going to, I didn't, that thing I wanted kids to come out and go, that's not, that's not how it looked. So I was obsessed with it. It took three and a half years. I remember the first interview I did. They said, how long you think it would be to this is up and

And I said, give me three, three and a half months, you know, three and a half years later. And, you know, $250,000 worth of stuff not to count the gifts and kind, we cut the ribbon. But if you were to give me another three years, that's how much of a perfection is because I wanted this thing to be as equally, like, it has to represent S.E. Hinton. It's not about, you know, as much as it's about her legacy and how this book has reached children. And you said it. You nailed it. It's about the right side of the tracks and the wrong side of the tracks, proverbially. and finding what she says is we saw the same sunset, although our worlds were two completely different places,

we saw the same sunset. For me, that's finding a mutual thing that we both can like, whether you're left, right, black, white, doesn't matter. We both look up, see a beautiful creation, the sunset that God made. Even by default, if we both like it, it brings us one step closer. And so that's what we do at that place. And I will end by telling you that we did have close to 6,000 school students tour the museum the last semester that just passed before they went into summer.

And that was an unexpected consequence of building this museum. I built this museum for me and your husband to look at switchblades and Matt Dillon's leather jackets and stuff like that. But it's really a museum driven by the kids and the educational component that we're trying to build out is why we're doing a gala coming up in October on the 12th on the heels of this musical that's going to come to town. That's amazing. I want to share with everybody before I let you go.

talking with Daniel Boy O'Connor, this quote that I read from you, which I thought was so incredibly profound. And it kind of hit me the same way as like the message of the outsiders and the way that you approached restoring this house into this museum. You said, I think as a nation or as a people in the past, we've looked at pop culture as being disposable. And now the things that were once disposable to us become more important than say, you know, like a Monet. And you said, I've been to Amsterdam. I've seen Rembrandt. You know, it's a brilliant painting, but I don't relate to that in any way. there's no part of my DNA in that and the outsiders is like a right of passage i love this because

i think you're good you dug that one out that's good that is such a great deal i mean i mean fonsie raised me and and and jacchi and jony and and you know shanana no was the the guys i wanted to look like because they looked like the guys in brooklyn where i grew up originally before i came to california everybody i knew was like a shanana na type character so when i saw the outsiders i thought well listen I don't have much but if I had a band of brothers that would surround me and me surround them and just look out for each other that this life would be doable and so it sure has been but I don't believe that I would have had that success that I've had here at Tulsa if this house wasn't Los Angeles or New York it's just people here are cut from a different cloth and I'm never leaving so I'm into that Danny Boy O'Connor the book you got to get it now the oral history of the outsider stain gold and you can do that pre-order right now Barnes & Noble and it comes out this fall and of course the music We'll make sure we remind everybody about the gala. I'm going to get down there and visit it because I love the book. I've been to Tulsa.

We've got to get down there and I got to get down there and I got to go visit. I got to go look at the switchblades and I got to go look at this director's chair and the jacket and the car and everything else. Danny Boy O'Connor, God bless you, my friend, and Icon in so many different ways and you're just keeping on going. Appreciate you. Thank you, my friend. Stay gold. Stay gold. That's right. Subscribe to the Dana Show podcast because who says you can't make fun of people while staying informed on your own personal time.

Subscribe on YouTube. Apple or wherever you get your podcast. I forgot to tell people when I had Danny with us is that you can support those ongoing restoration efforts over at the Outsiders House Museum. You can get a brick. Oh, yeah, it's part of the story. It's actually cool.

It's a personalized brick, and it helps to go towards the long-term survival of the museum. And it is like really, when you read how detail they got into recreating that house room by room, it's wild. Like the floor exactly, the kitchen exactly, everything. Like he went through frame by frame from the film. It is wild.

And I think Rob Lowe went to it and visited it. And he was like blown away. He had it on his Instagram account. He was like blown away at just the efforts that and how the realism of it. It was like when they were back there. All right. So, and that's at Bricks Us. Is it a brick?

Yeah, Bricks are us.com slash donors at the outside. I'll have that all up on a social so you can access it. Today's stupidity king. All right. Looks like Democrat Maryland Attorney General Anthony Brown. Juan, this is cut 21. Apparently they don't want to cooperate with ICE, with federal law enforcement. Listen to this.

If you want federal transportation dollars, you've got to cooperate with ice. And Maryland refuses to cooperate with ICE. Okay. Well, there you go. Well, can I also not cooperate with laws I don't want to follow? He's in the FAA portion. Yeah. Oh, the FO is going to come around.

It's coming. Yeah, it's coming. It's going to come around. Folks, that does it for us this week. Find us over at Facebook and YouTube, like and subscribe, Substack Chapter and Verse as well. Have a great rest of your Friday. Have a great weekend. I'll be back with you on Monday.