The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Nick Fuentes' History Exposed, Heritage Defends Tucker & Dana Explains The Woke Reich

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

Happy Halloween. President Trump threatens getting rid of the filibuster as leverage to get the government reopened. Trump placed candy on ANOTHER kid’s head during trick-or-treating at The White Ho...use. Dana resurfaces flashback videos of Fuentes being sexist and anti-Semitic as the pushback of his interview on Tucker Carlson’s show continues. Singer Billie Eilish has DEMANDED for billionaires to give their money away. Heritage Foundation’s President Kevin Roberts puts out a video statement defending Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. Kamala Harris loses her MIND on Jon Stewart’s podcast about Trump’s White House ballroom project, dropping multiple ‘F’ bombs. A Democrat Illinois Congressional Candidate charged with impeding federal agents RAGE QUITS from an interview after a video was played of her banging on a federal agent's car. Dana explains why the current fight within the Conservative movement would hurt all Republicans chances in upcoming elections. Dana reacts to a guinea pig-sized AI companion that builds emotional bonds and responds to touch light and sound. David Limbaugh joins us to react to the Tucker/Fuentes interview, blasts Heritage's response and the fight on the right.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Jones Road Beautyhttps://JonesRoadBeauty.comGet a free, Cool Gloss from Jones Road Beauty with your first purchase using code DANA.Bub’s Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub’s Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial  #250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon’t get caught without ammo, and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltec- KS7 Gen2https://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. Keltec- Peacekeepers Programhttps://KelTecWeapons.com/DanaThe KelTec Peacekeepers Program supports those who protect our communities.  Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com/Dana today.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don’t wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana’s personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets, now available at your local Walmart.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Jones Road Beautyhttps://JonesRoadBeauty.comGet a free, Cool Gloss from Jones Road Beauty with your first purchase using code DANA.Bub’s Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub’s Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial  #250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon’t get caught without ammo, and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltec- KS7 Gen2https://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. Keltec- Peacekeepers Programhttps://KelTecWeapons.com/DanaThe KelTec Peacekeepers Program supports those who protect our communities.  Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com/Dana today.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don’t wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana’s personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets, now available at your local Walmart.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Trump is a vindictive politician and a heartless man. Meanwhile, here in the Senate, this is still... Well, he's not the one voting no. So, FYI, he's not the one voting no. So I'm not quite sure, again, where we're having this conversation. This is... What vote are we on? Do we know? I ask this every day.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I is 14. Hell, if we know. We don't know. We don't know what vote it is. We don't know. We don't know. know what what voted is because they're they're not going to they're not going to uh they're not going to do it and then potis which we're going to talk about here coming up what he had tweeted ah this was like what late last night he put well he didn't tweet it he put it on true social
Starting point is 00:00:48 and then they copied it over to x he was tweeting that they uh need to blow up the filibuster Which is a horrible idea. And we're going to talk about why that is here coming up because it's a bad idea that there's a reason why previously it's been discouraged. And I feel like there are people out there who don't, look, I'm going to just tell you this. We would have gotten all of the, we would have gotten, I mean, all of the bad Biden economic stuff, all of it. we would have gotten all of it had we blown up the filibuster. We would have gotten every bad, every bad Biden bill, every bad everything. They would have steamrolled over us.
Starting point is 00:01:48 And honestly, there were enough at the time. There were enough Democrats that said, you know, we're not going to do this. You had the Joe Mansions. You guys remember Joe Manchin. Joe Manchin was one of them who said we're not going to be doing this with the filibuster. Why on earth would we do something like that over a flipping CR that is nothing more than an expansion of Biden's spending? Blowing up the filibuster is like your atom bomb that really I don't even think should be used then,
Starting point is 00:02:28 but that's a debate for that time when it is in that circumstance requires. But this is just some of the, it's, why would we do this? I don't know what Mike Johnson's going to say about it. I don't know what, what, well, yeah, quote, let's play this. Let's play this and see what he said about it. This is Mike Johnson being asked about POTUS's post on true social. Listen. To get the continuing resolution passed, I know in the past you've been reluctant to encourage
Starting point is 00:02:58 your Senate colleagues to do that or not. Are you aligned with the president now that it's time to be? take this dramatic step to really I haven't, the president's been very busy he was in, you know, Asia doing all these trade agreements, I've been a little busy as you know. We haven't spoken since he returned a cinema text earlier this morning, I saw that as well.
Starting point is 00:03:16 What you're seeing is an expression of the president's anger at the situation. He is as angry as I am and the American people are about this madness, and he just desperately wants the government to be reopened so that all these resources can flow to the people who need it so much. Look, I'll just say this in general,
Starting point is 00:03:34 As I've said many times about the filibuster, it's not my call. I don't have a say in this. It's a Senate chamber issue. We don't have that in the House, as you know. But the filibuster has traditionally been viewed as a very important safeguard. If the shoe was on the other foot, I don't think our team would like it.
Starting point is 00:03:49 The Democrats, look, they've said what they would do. They would pack the Supreme Court. They would make Puerto Rico and DC states. They would ban firearms. They would do all sorts of things that would be very harmful for the country and the safeguard in the Senate has always been the filibuster but again not my issue not something I get to even weigh in on my opinion on this is not relevant it's the the senators but I think that it just is
Starting point is 00:04:17 another expression of the frustration of the pressure that has been felt the anger by the president and by me and all of us that we're in this situation at all so like I said we're gonna dive down deep into this here coming up there's a number of things we have to get into in the program as well and we got the latest get you set up for the weekend because it's Halloween too you know I don't have the big werewolf this year there's a lot going on your girl's a little overwhelmed if Radio America wants a werewolf they can fly down here and put the the wherewolf in the corner it's a lot happening so the uh we're going to dive into this we're going to get into some of the
Starting point is 00:04:54 domestic because how I mean house they're not what we may not have another vote I think it's till next week so they're I mean and then what's November 1st came that's when all of the stuff expires. Saturday, yep. So that's when that's snap, that's everything. I don't know if they're going to have protests planned like they did for the No King stuff and all of that. I don't know. I mean, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:05:22 But snap, all of that kicks off on the first. And then, of course, those Obamacare, look, the Obamacare stuff is going to hit me just like everybody else. and this idea that somehow they're fighting for something other than an extension of this, and that's why it's like so idiotic to blow up the filibuster over this bill. Of all the things, the continuing resolution that just extends Biden-era spending, the continuing resolution that we're going to have to do again in three months. by the way, all of this is going to have to happen again in three months. That is drop-kicking defeat from the jaws of victory.
Starting point is 00:06:13 That's exactly what that is. And we're going to talk more about it. Also, on deck, a couple of other things here. We have more on that Operation Arctic Frost. There's a lot of stuff that is coming out about this. And how widespread it is. I talked a little bit about this on Fox Business yesterday. this Arctic Frost investigation, which was nothing but, I mean, the best way to describe it is just an illegal
Starting point is 00:06:38 dragnet that focused on a whole, it didn't even focus on just the admin. It focused on every single person that is even remotely associated with the Trump campaign. Now, all of this was because it was fallout from the 2020 election, right? Fallout tantrum from the 2020 election. Just like in 2016, when you saw the Clinton campaign and the DNC colluding with Fusion GPS, using all of their contacts within the DOJ and FBI to bypass the standard operating procedure in order to get surveillance warrants through the FISA court,
Starting point is 00:07:24 all of that, this was more of it. They had weaponized. They were, in fact, some of them, the some of the wiretapping that they engaged in was without warrant. And it wasn't just senators. There were a handful of senators. There were a lot of Republicans. There were a lot of people. They had 100 and what was it? Something 197 some odd subpoenas out there. They were looking at absolutely everything. They, they were looking at people's finances. It was nothing but a witch hunt to try to catch somebody. They were looking for not, they had no
Starting point is 00:08:06 suspicion of wrongdoing. They wanted to try to see what sort of crime could be fabricated. I think that's the best way to put it. And then the judge, uh, Boasberg, that judge, the Obama era judge in this case, this is the judge that, that also was fighting Trump on the, deportation of illegal aliens, if you remember. Like he expected these, he expected Trump to make these other countries send back their own residence that had entered into the United States illegally. It's that same judge. This is the judge that told AT&T, remember using Ted Cruz as an example, he had his business, his Senate work on Verizon, and then he had AT&T, which was his private phone, and they told AT&T that they needed his private phone.
Starting point is 00:08:55 declined and they were pushing them because they were saying it was an issue of national security, which it wasn't. That's what the judge was saying. The judge was saying that it was a national security issue. That's why they needed this information. And also, that is why Cruz could not be told. They did not want the phone companies informing the targets of this. And they said as the excuse that it's because it's a national security issue. There was no national security issues, you know, this was just, all of this was related to 2020. They were trying to figure out a way to keep him from running again. All of this.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And it comprised of so many people in so many offices. Now, the reason we know about it is because there were a lot of really good whistleblowers who saw what was happening and they decided to tell the American public. And thank God that they did, because we would have never have known had they not done this. It is unbelievable. Unbelievable. So this is a huge story. I mean, Watergate looks stupid compared to this. And I'm not trying to be myopic, but it looks absolutely idiotic compared to this. This is a scandal. I mean, even coupled with what happened in 2016, with the surveillance warrants and Carter Page, etc.
Starting point is 00:10:23 So we're going to dive into this. We're also going to talk about the woke rike. I didn't say right. I said woke rick, R-I-C-H, woke rike. Because this is something that's happening. And there is a strategy at play. And I'm going to give you an update on some of the stuff that has been happening. I will tell you, I am very, I have a lot of private conversations with a lot of people and I don't make them public.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I'm not like those people that run and leak texts. However, what I will do is I will call out people who in public pretend to be such champions of free speech and pretend to be such champions of the exchange of ideas. And the moment it looks like they might have to step into an arena where those ideas may be challenged, suddenly that support for free speech goes quiet. suddenly that devotion to the free exchange of ideas disappears. And we can do this the easy way or the easy way. We're going to have an exchange of ideas. And we're not going to silo people off to where you only talk in spaces that you feel comfortable in, especially if this is all about free speech.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So we're going to talk about this. Oh, I know. You're like, well, hey, what is that? We're going to talk about it. And we're also going to discuss some of these other things that are going to down. But there is, the left gave you the blueprint for how to destroy your party. And the right seems hell bent on following it. We're going to talk about that and more here as we roll towards headlines. And of course, we've got days of these United States on the way as well as we move
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Starting point is 00:13:20 And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five. All right, so first, banks and retailers are running short on pennies because the U.S. meant to stop making them. When's the last time you ever used a penny? I don't know. I was thinking about this. I don't know when the last time I've ever,
Starting point is 00:13:39 When is the last time you've ever held a penny? I'm a germaphobs. What about you? Do you even have a penny cane? Yeah, I have actually. I have some old pennies. I collect coins. I have some old pennies at home. But I don't use pennies.
Starting point is 00:13:53 See, do you carry change around? Do you have, like, actually, I've changed? I think I have pennies in my car right now. Juan, do you carry change around? No. See, Juan's like, no. It's gross. It's got to touch it, and it's germy.
Starting point is 00:14:04 So they've stopped making them. Banks and retailers have run short on this. And so they... They, uh, make them than it, then it, then they're worth. It does. What does it? It costs three cents to make one cent. Yeah, it's, it's more than a penny.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah, it's kind of, so I agree. It's kind of, you know, so that's fine. Amazon has raised their spending forecast to $125 billion as third quarter results. Top estimates. Also, in Oklahoma, a Tacoma Park man is accused of disguising himself to film women in gym locker rooms. Sorry, this is in Montgomery County, Maryland. Excuse me. For why is it's, it's an Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:14:39 press with a Tacoma Washington reporter and they're talking about Montgomery County Maryland. Okay. But facing multiple charges, they said he dressed up as a woman and started secretly recording women in gym locker rooms. Forty-year-old I can't even say his name. How do you say his name?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Shikundi Tadi? Yeah, that sounds right. He was arrested Wednesday. He was at a Planet Fitness because dudes can go in the ladies' locker rooms. And they began tracking him. He apparently went to like different gyms. One Life Fitness. The Planet fitness, different ones, and was recording women dressed up, dressing in the locker and without
Starting point is 00:15:14 their consent. So now he's in major trouble, but that's what happens when you remove protections for women's locker rooms. Stick with us. We got more in store. So our skin changes in subtle ways over the years, especially after having kids. Maybe your hair and your nails and your skin don't seem as strong as you'd like for them to be, but there are smart ways to support them as you maneuver through the seasons of life. Bubbs naturals, collagen peptides offer a very powerful solution to help restore health to your skin and your nails, reverse the signs of aging, and support your body from within. So starting in your 20s, your body produces less collagen every year. And collagen is the protein that holds everything together. It's like, you know, the glue for the body. So with bubs,
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Starting point is 00:17:00 And he's got this thing where if, so one kid dressed up as a minion one year and he put the candy on the minions head, that's the thing that he does, is he puts candy on top of the minions' heads. And then there was a marshmallow dude that rolled up. And he put the candy on the marshmallow dude's head. And then a baby dressed up as him going through the McDonald's drive-thru, which was hysterical. And that, I think it's funny. He flew half, he flew around the world so he could get back and give candy to that McDonald's baby.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Look at that. That's actually very clever. They like that very much. McDonald's has to love this, by the way. How excited are you if you're McDonald's? You got free advertising right there. I love it. it. I love that they just, I love that tradition. They go out and they do that. Welcome back to the
Starting point is 00:17:44 program, being a lash with you. We are at the bottom of this first hour. Now, so I don't, look, I, count yourself lucky if you don't know what's been happening on social media. And it's not just social media. It's what's been happening on the right. And a lot of people are like, why are we in the weeds? Because we have to fight the left. Well, God made us to give this, the ability to walk and chew gum at the same time. So that's a great thing, right? But also, it's because we don't want to be like the left. And here's what I mean. You guys have seen what has happened with the left when they allowed the crazies to run the party. And now look, they're losing everything. This is why I always scratch my head when people are, I don't know why people want to rob the GOP of wins. When they go,
Starting point is 00:18:33 well, we're tired of losing. We need to start winning. We got to start doing this and taking it back. dudes, we own all of, we run Washington. The border is closed. We're redefining trade deals all over the world. We have rooted out and are rooting out all of the abuse of government, like what was done with the FISA court and what's been done with Arctic Frost. We got judges on the Supreme Court and reshaped it. We reshaped a third of the judiciary.
Starting point is 00:19:06 What are you talking about? about. When I hear people say this, I honestly wonder if it's not a sciop from the left to try to get the right to question our own victories. So when people say we're not winning, I mean, for crying out loud, we got DEI unfunded. That's rolling back. What are you mad about? We haven't gotten in any more wars. What are you mad about? And I say this because there is a major power play underway. A lot of us have seen it. We just kind of watched it. But now it's in front and center. And it has exploded. So like I said, you don't have to be in the weeds and know all of this stuff, but it is going to affect you. It's going to affect how you vote and who you vote for at some point. So here's the lollay of the land. This is what happened last night.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Heritage Foundation. And we've reached out to Kevin Roberts, who is the individual with Heritage who made the statement. Everybody I think is familiar with the Heritage Foundation, right? everybody's familiar with them. I got a Salvatore Prize. I have the certificate on my wall that they sent for the Tea Party stuff during the Tea Party Day. I've hosted events for Heritage. I've done a lot of stuff for Heritage Foundation over the years and have always appreciated
Starting point is 00:20:27 them. Daily Signal is their publication. And Kevin Roberts, who is the current president of Heritage, decided to wade into the big fight that has been developing on the right. I think it was bad for Roberts to have done that. It would have been better had he not said anything. But I hear a lot from certain people that it's very important to have a free exchange of ideas. I've been doing this in radio since 2008. We have a daily listening audience of Kane, how many would you say? Just radio alone, I would say on the minimum is about 10 to 12 million. 10 to 12 million. So I love that you have $400,000 for you. You
Starting point is 00:21:08 or 400,000 people watching your live stream. We have 10 million that listen to rest really around the nation, plus all of the stuff that we have digitally, daily, Monday through Friday, three hours a day. And I've reached out, we've reached out to Kevin Roberts beginning last night because we wanted to talk to him about what he's talked about at Heritage. And he does not want to come on. first they told us that very conveniently he was going to be in a car for the entirety of our show and wasn't going to be able to join and maybe they have a special car where telephones don't work
Starting point is 00:21:53 I don't know but that's you know possibility who knows you know I don't know and now they've gone radio silent and we haven't heard any of them now I'm going to I'm going to put this out there too I've reached out to the big players that are in this or the main ones. players that are in this huge fight. And it's very interesting that people who have always wanted to have me on have always reached out. I've never pursued them to go on anybody's programs. It's always reverse because I'm just busy. I get a debate coming up next week. Suddenly now the same people who talk about the free exchange of ideas, they go radio silent when you actually mean what you say and you want a free exchange of ideas. So this all stems from Tucker
Starting point is 00:22:40 Carlson having on that Fuentes guy who I've written about over at Substack and I put a lot, I've heard a lot from you guys. A lot of you guys did not know all of this stuff. There's a bigger picture here, but this is just what happens. So he has him on. This is a guy and look, how dare you judge somebody by what they tell you about them, right? Ooh, how dare you judge someone's character by the things they say and the things they do? Am I Right? Like, especially the stuff that they tell you over and over and over again and countless videos that are online, correct? This is an individual, the Fuentes guy, who has said that Hitler is very cool. He says he admires Stalin. And, well, it's just a lot of stuff. Let's just go ahead and play cut three. I can't believe I'm playing this on my show.
Starting point is 00:23:36 But I want you guys to understand who we're talking about in terms of who was. interviewed. This is one cut. Hitler was a penophile and kind of a pagan. It's like, well, he was also really cool. So, you know, time to grow up. We're not, we're not children anymore. Am I right? Am I right?
Starting point is 00:23:57 Am I right, boys? Am I right? Let's go. He was also really cool. And any boy knows that. Anybody who watches these videos where he's rolling down. He's not joking. This is not something that he, and that's always the last refuge of the cowards.
Starting point is 00:24:15 They are always like, no, no, no. I was joking in all of the videos where I said the same thing, basically, you know, over and over again. I don't know. Maybe play cut two for me. Go ahead and play cut two. This is what I'm talking about. I don't. It's sort of like how women, a lot of women want to be raped.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And when I say raped, I mean, like, that sounds bad when I say it like that. But there's like a lot of women that really want a guy to beat the shit out of them. But also they have to pretend, but part of it is they have to pretend like they don't. Hmm. Now, there's some, I don't know if we can actually play this. This is something I was going to ask Juan. It's in Slack, by the way. But let's not forget, this is also a guy who got caught accidentally streaming gay porn during his live stream.
Starting point is 00:25:03 You know how like you have tabs open on your computer and I guess he had one open. where he had been having some individual time off stream. And it was something that was caught by the whole audience. So I'm just saying, this is, he's like a single dude. He's childless, no girlfriend. I, you know, this is who Tucker was interviewing. And, you know, when he was saying that he admired Stalin, there was no pushback. When he was denying the principle or the belief of e pluribusunum, there was no pushback.
Starting point is 00:25:37 there was no pushback on basically kind of the character assassination of Christians by assuming that every single person is Zionist or by assuming even that Zionists are as heretical as the people who are not following other commands of the Bible. I mean, there's a lot there. This is what we're talking about. There's a reason why I don't go, and this is the gay porn video that ended up accidentally streaming when he we have it censored for those of you just closed your eyes you can see his chat or like what the chat was like what in the world his chat yeah they were like what is happening
Starting point is 00:26:16 it would be like me it would be like right now we have a live stream and the chats at rumble it would be like you being able to see my my four foot wide screen here and then you would see literally like a gay porn thing pop up that's what happened so this guy is kind of like the avatar for what i called the woke rike. It's people who think that they're right-leaning, but they're really not because they worship at the altar of identity politics. It's all about identity politics. And it's not even about principle. We're in a race for power. And this is ultimately what's happening. Having someone like that on, someone asked me, well, why don't you have so-and-so-on for, you know, why wouldn't you do it? Well, for the same reason that I'm not going to go behind the 7-Eleven
Starting point is 00:27:03 that's like at the corner of, you know, the nearest intersection and go and talk to the hobo that's talking to himself while he's digging through the trash and scratching his groin. That's the same reason I'm not going to go bring that guy on my show to talk about quantitative easing to answer your question. This idea that, oh, we're having a free exchange of ideas. Are we, though? Because I see one person having only one type of guest. There was no pushback on Ted Cruz.
Starting point is 00:27:35 there was no pushback on Fuentes the way that there was with Ted Cruz. So don't, so don't tell me that it was, there was a debate that took place because there wasn't. I watched the whole two-hour thing. There was, it was not the same interview. And I dare say that Ted Cruz was treated like an enemy of the state and the other was treated like an ally. So how does this involve Kevin Roberts over at Heritage? Kevin Roberts decided to make a video of it. And call out the people who were critical of questioning why there was no pushback in that interview.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And I watched the whole two-hour thing, and I disagree. I don't think there was any pushback at all. It was kid-globed. Now, I reached out to Tucker. I've known Tucker for a number of years. He does not want to come on air with me. He did not want to have that conversation. And
Starting point is 00:28:28 that's all I'm going to say about it. Because I assured him that I was going to keep, I'm not going to leak text and do all that stuff. But I will say, I offered it. I go where, I walked on stage where I had an arena of people screaming burn her. I'm going to debate gun control in Chicago next week. Clearly, I have no issue entering the arena of free ideas and debating those ideas. I don't know why other people who claim that they hold free speech at the same standard do not have that same devotion to the exercise of free ideas and the exchange of them.
Starting point is 00:29:03 So I had reached out. I said, I'm genuinely interested in talking about this. And I was told, absolutely not. I have my own platform. And that's what we're doing. Okay. All right. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:29:16 My door's always been open. It's always been open. But so Kevin Roberts, one of the things, because this is a big thing, one of the things we're going to do is we're going to break this down. Why did Kevin Roberts do this video? The guy at Heritage. Why would Heritage, which has been this? A lot of people view it as this stalwart in the movement. Why would they get involved?
Starting point is 00:29:41 First off, what did he say? Why would they get involved? And now, why is he gone radio silent? Now, they were very amenable in the beginning, Kane. And you can tell the folks this. They were talking to you from last night, and then all of a sudden now there's nada. Yeah, we were going back and forth trying to figure out a time,
Starting point is 00:29:58 offered every bit of opportunity that we had, even offered something after the show if you'd like to take a show. whole schedule and I'm like I'll take it live on YouTube and that's when he you know apparently is in a car during the entire time I think for the whole day at this point now right said hey by phone is an option we'd prefer zoom it'd be nice but and then he's like well it can't be out of the car till three o'clock eastern and now here we are not getting a response from the three o'clock eastern offer that they at. So it's completely dark for the last two hours, 20 minutes. Yeah. So we, I mean, like I said, I cleared my entire schedule and I haven't heard. If you are such a big champion of free speech,
Starting point is 00:30:45 then you'll join me on air. And you'll have that free, we'll have that exchange of ideas. I'm genuinely interested in this. Unlike other people, I'm not an edge lord out there looking for clicks. That's why I don't have some of these guests on. That's why I don't do some of this stuff. I'm to have you know that I've fought back against the higher, the people who employ me on this stuff. I have had people who have tried to get me on all of these edge lord shows and do this. And I have said, no, no, no, I am not doing that. I am not prostituting myself out for clicks. That's what a lot of this is.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I absolutely refuse. A, I don't need to do it. B, I don't want to do it. And see, it doesn't benefit anybody. again, for the same reason that I don't bring the hobo digging through the trash, scratching his ass while he's sitting here talking to himself, you know, rummaging through the dumpster behind the 7-Eleven. For the same reason, I don't bring that guy on and sit here and go, why don't you tell me about foreign policy and Venezuela and Panama Canal and CCP and then let's go into quantitative easing or quantitative tightening, whatever we want? It's for the same reason. I have a lot more on this, though, so why did they do the video?
Starting point is 00:31:56 What did the video say? And also, what is the bigger strategy at play? Because this isn't even just about 2028. We're going to show you the lay of the land. And we're going to tell you exactly what is happening. So you don't want to miss the rest of the program today. Folks who help bring us the program, it's the folks over at Superbeats. The Superbeats, folks, human is what makes their story different is where it began.
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Starting point is 00:33:50 Love you guys. Thank you so much. Well, who's she given that award to? That's Billy Eilish. who's she given her a word to I always love the billionaires who go I hate billionaires let them sub-bye I have my brother write my songs and do ASMR
Starting point is 00:34:06 blah blah blah blah I just I can't deal with it If you hate If you hate capitalists Then then give up all your money I don't think she's done that Either of them have they She's given millions
Starting point is 00:34:17 Like I think the number was somewhere Between 10 and 12 million Over I don't know the course of some time That's not all of it Certain causes No, she needs to give more away. These people need to prove it. Otherwise, they're posers.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Prove it. Give all your money away. Give me some. Otherwise, you're a poser. I don't believe them. No, I think they've got to prove it. Otherwise, you guys are just capitalist Republicans. No one believes you.
Starting point is 00:34:42 But no hate shorties. Yeah, shorties. Go ahead and going back to the language of our parents. There we go. All right, folks, we have our second hour coming up. The Kevin Roberts video. I'm going to tell you the strategy what they're trying to do to the right. You don't want to miss. Stick with us. It is our friends over at all family pharmacy. If you want to take charge of your health care and you kind of want to get around the middleman, you need to check out all family pharmacy. So first and foremost, this is like the number one thing that I like. All the stuff that they have, all their antibiotics, all their medications, they are made in the USA using US produced precursors. So for the lack of a better way to put it, all the ingredients that go into the The soup, it's all American.
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Starting point is 00:36:34 mortal coil is short. So you need to be eyeing and aiming for the kingdom, not of the world. And it's also a great time to actually get out and be able to tell people, I mean, for crying out to tell people about your faith or when we used to have trick-or-traders come to our house. If their parents had a concealed carry license, they got the big snickers. They got the king-snickers, King size Snickers. I can't tell you how many times that happened. So it's a great way to evangelize. So we've got a number of things to touch on.
Starting point is 00:37:01 First off, we've got the latest with, we're going to get into the filibuster stuff as well. As you know, that November 1st deadline's coming up with the government shutdown. We're going to dive into all of that to continue what we were talking about in the previous hour. I don't want y'all to feel like this is going into the weeds, but I feel like you would want to know what is happening
Starting point is 00:37:18 with the party that you tend to, that you are either a member, of or that you tend to vote with because that is the best vehicle in our two-party system to advance your constitutionalist concerns and causes. So there is a major power struggle underway already. This is not even just about 2028. This is about beyond. And it all is circling around this idea to, well, the whole woke rike, not even right, woke rike that's been happening. there's been an increase in anti-Semitism, and it's been, like, legit, not like criticizing Israel. I'm so tired of people conflating the two.
Starting point is 00:38:00 They do it because they don't want accountability for really what is in their hearts. It's people who are just mad at to-dos, and there's a faction of this that's bubbling up on the right, and it's being mainstreamed by, you know, 50-something-year-old podcast hosts who are so desperate to stay relevant that they're glomming on to the worst aspects of zoomerism. that's the truth of it. Just like you saw, I think it's, someone made the connection talking about John Stewart and the left. And that's one of the reasons why they go after people like AOC and Mamdami. Like John Stewart just had Mandani on his show, I think.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I think that's one of the reasons why you're seeing stuff like that Fuentes guy pop up on different podcasts. Because people think that that's the road through which relevancy lies. And it's not. And it's also a way to try to amass power. and agitate for your your side because Trump is going to be turned out. And his influence is going to, in terms of controlling of the GOP, right now he runs it. But it happens to every president. Their influences, they get closer towards the end of their term, their influence starts to
Starting point is 00:39:13 fade. That's just the way it goes with everybody. Nobody's immune to it. And this is a fight for what happens after. absolutely. So we have all these things happening. And more on that coming up. More, all we have, we have, you know, a major win with Republicans right now in terms of messaging on shutdown. You don't, don't pay attention to the push polls. You have all of these great things that we're, we got the border that's closed where we're enforcing law and order. Steve was just saying on break that Trump just taking a victory lap, putting candy on marshmallow costume heads. The white high, he's just taking a victory lap and he should. So why in the world that the Heritage Foundation think that this is the time to do a video, which is just a bomb that's being thrown into the right? Why? And to suck all of the air out of the room. Why would you do this? You are a think tank. Why would you do what you did? Now, to catch you up,
Starting point is 00:40:14 this has to do with, and Tucker Carlson and I are friends. We're not like best friends. You know, we're not, you know, share secrets and all that stuff. But, you know, I can call him and I can text him and we did have a lengthy back and forth a couple of days ago. I called him and then we had a lengthy back and forth. And I always, just so you guys know, I will always go to people privately before I talk publicly because this is how I operate. It's the Andrew Breitbart rule, which by the way, what would Andrew Breitbart think about all this stuff happening right now? They'd cancel him because he's Jewish and you can cut that and put it online. I question whether or not today Andrew Breitbart would be canceled. So the
Starting point is 00:40:56 And that's the true gatekeeping. So we have this interview with Fuentes. This is a guy who got caught streaming gay porn. He's this single dude who no girlfriend, no nothing, no real anything. He gets 400 something thousand subscribers, I guess, on his streams. We have 10 million listeners a day for radio, whatever. The point being is that he's kind of an avatar for the woke rike on the right. And that's why I think some people are trying.
Starting point is 00:41:26 trying to mainstream him or to use that as a way to showcase their relevancy. And he says, I mean, he says that Hitler was cool, which we play that audio. He said that he admired Stalin, you know, who was a notorious atheist, who was so atheist that he actually mandated godless policies at the state level, and he killed millions. And they just don't like the Jews, and they try to dress that up in criticisms of Christian Zionism. But if you hear them talk, you know, it's not just criticisms about doctrine. It's actually they don't like Jewish people. If you listen, which is hard. So I, you know, somebody had asked me, well, why don't you have this person on and, you know, listen to their ideas? And my response was,
Starting point is 00:42:15 and I'll say it again, for the exact same reason that I don't go to the quick trip down the road, or 7-Eleven in this case, and go behind. and find the hobo that's scratching his backside, talking to himself and rummaging for food in the dumpster and bring him on air and interview him about important issues of the day for that same reason. Now I'm all about if somebody else wants to. But don't sit here and say that it's a hard-hitting interview or that it's journalism when you don't push back. Ted Cruz was grilled on not knowing the number of people in Russia. But you have a guy who sits across from you and says, I admire Stalin and there's no pushback? What?
Starting point is 00:42:54 How many people did Stalin kill? I mean, I just feel like that's comparable to how many people are in Russia. Don't you think so? There's just a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense there. I also must have missed it. Well, first off, let's play this video. This is Kevin Roberts, who's president of the Heritage Foundation. They decided after criticisms of this interview taking place, no one asked them to do this.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Trump is taking a victory lap, right? Borders closed. Republicans are winning on shutdown. And then Heritage is like, wait, let's mess it all up. And they did this video. Watch. We will always defend truth. We will always defend America.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And we will always defend our friends against the slander of bad actors who serve someone else's agenda. That includes Tucker Carlson, who remains and as I have said before, always will be a close friend of the Heritage Foundation. The venomous coalition attacking him or sewing division. Their attempt to cancel him will. fail. Most importantly, the American people expect us to be focusing on our political adversaries on the left, not attacking our friends on the right. I disagree with, and even abhor things that Nick Fuentes says. But canceling him is not the answer either. When we disagree with a person's thoughts and opinions, we challenge those ideas and debate. And we have seen success in this
Starting point is 00:44:22 approach as we continue to dismantle the vile ideas of the left. What do you think of violent idea of 11? As my friend, Vice President Vance said last night, what I am not okay with is any country coming before the interest of American citizens, and it is important for all of us, assuming we are American citizens, to put the interest of our own country first. That's where our allegiance lies, and that's where it will stay. So why they decided to do this, I don't know, but a couple of things, first and foremost. most. I noticed that Heritage Foundation didn't put out a video when Ben Shapiro was accused of
Starting point is 00:44:59 serving someone else's agenda by the same person that they're defending now. Heritage didn't feel the need to put out a video. They didn't feel a need to put out the video when it was said that someone hates Christian Zionists like Mark Levin and Mike Huckabee. I find it fascinating that anyone would hate a Christian over a doctrinal dispute more than they'd be. hate the Islamists that are murdering Christians by the thousands in Nigeria and in Sudan and in the Middle East. But I digress. They didn't put out a video for any of that. And to describe what they, the word, what was the word he said? Venomous. Venomous. Wow. So there's a lot there to process. saying that Christians can critique the state of Israel without being anti-Semitic, that's not even the issue.
Starting point is 00:45:55 No one's saying that you can't do that. That's a straw man argument that people are feathering together as a way to dodge the real argument. This has nothing to do with that. The problem is that half of the people that say that can't even spell Knesset. The criticism is from treating someone that goes out and live streams gay porn and says that Hitler is cool says that well you go ahead and play the Hitler's cool
Starting point is 00:46:26 you don't have to take my word for it go ahead just go ahead and play I think it's cut what it's like in the very beginning of our list one go ahead this is Hitler was a penophile and kind of a pagan it's like well he was also
Starting point is 00:46:39 really cool so you know and says it over and over again we're not we're not so that's the thing it's and having someone on this, how do you not push back when that guest is sitting in front of you? How do you not push back on the things that he said repeatedly? But you get mad at Ted Cruz because Ted Cruz criticized the admiration of Russian grocery stores and the trains run on time? That is really weird to me.
Starting point is 00:47:06 The fact that there was more ire towards somebody like Ted Cruz than this guy who has said this repeatedly. There wasn't even bringing that. That's the difference between if Vladimir Putin goes on 60 minutes, Vladimir Putin's going to be asked why he kills people and hates free speech. Right? He's not, which you didn't even see that. There was no pushback with any of this. I mean, that's it. And then the second thing, this is, this is, this is not about, again, it's not about, I don't think this is about Christian Zionism anymore. He says that the venomous coalition, you know, attacking Carlson as sowing division, is it not venomous to say that you hate Christian Zionists, regardless of whether or not you are one, that you hate them?
Starting point is 00:47:56 If you want to have a discussion about venomous, is it not venomous to assert that everyone who disagrees with you get $7,000? Is it not venomous to say that people who disagree with you on the existence of Israel are somehow paid by Israel or, A-PAC? Is that not venomous? Because I noticed there wasn't a video that Heritage put out. Kevin Roberts isn't going to come on the show because he's a coward and Heritage is a failed organization. And you made an enemy out of an ally.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Don't pretend to support conservatism. You guys are cucks to Nazism. And you want to talk about venom? Putting out a video like this and sucking the attention out of the room when POTUS. By the way, you're defending the platform of a guy who
Starting point is 00:48:39 absolutely advocated against voting for POTUS in 2024. Furtes didn't even vote for Trump. My great sin was I supported someone else during the primary, but voted for Trump three times. That is unforgivable in the eyes of the woke rike. But you can stream gay porn and you can talk about how much you love Hitler and then you can actually say that you're not voting for Trump and literally advocate. and I got the screenshots of all the tweets if you'd like to see them. And then actually encourage people to not vote for Trump.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And then that's okay. Because it's not about principles. It's about power. And we are in a race to hell. And that's going to be it. It's going to be the ma'am Donnie's versus this. That's what we're coming to. And for Heritage Foundation to put out a video like this, first off, they're cowards.
Starting point is 00:49:31 They refuse to come on air with me. After they've given me, I've gotten the Salvatore Prize. after they've had Sarah, I've hosted events for them. But they come out and they call people venomous and they don't even have the spine to come on and talk about this with me. I was going to be gracious, but now that off ramp on that road has, you passed it. This is the way that you chose. This is what the Heritage Foundation has become now. I want to know what Kevin Roberts thinks about, go ahead and play what audio center.
Starting point is 00:50:07 somebody is this. Oh, where he talks about how he's a ladies man. Go ahead and play this is cut two. Go ahead and play this. It's sort of like how women, a lot of women want to be raped. And when I say raped, I mean like, that sounds bad when I say it like that. But there's like a lot of women that really want a guy to beat the shit out of them. But also they have to pretend, but part of it is they have to pretend like they don't. Why is Heritage Foundation throwing away everything that they've ever done to protect that? That's the question their donors need to ask. And I know some of their donors, and I've already asked some of them.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Why would you stake your reputation on that? I'm very curious. Why was there no pushback? Don't pretend that this is a free exchange of ideas. Because there wasn't a free exchange of ideas there. There was zero pushback. We're not even done with this topic. May the bridges they burn light my path ahead.
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Starting point is 00:52:34 Anyway, I had to get that out of my system. Apple expects big December quarter on iPhone upgrades. For the first time ever, I did not get the new iPhone. Because I don't like the big, goofy, raised thing in the back. You know how like that? I don't know why they did that. But Wall Street Journal says September quarter revenue hit a record despite supply constraints. So, interesting.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Also, let's see, the photo show a stolen Bay Area statue being carted away in broad daylight. It's the Louvre. But in San Francisco. I know. Also, it looks like Kevin Roberts from Heritage may be joining us later today after all. I'll keep you updated. Stick with us. A lot. Sometimes makeup can be super frustrating. It's too heavy. There are too many steps. And if you don't have the right tools, it just doesn't look natural. And we are in the natural, healthy girl era of makeup right now. And that's why I think Jones Road Beauty really fills this. They really fill this niche and they do such a great job at it. It's founded by makeup artist Bobby Brown. And it's a minimalist, clean. brand designed to enhance your natural beauty. So their products help you get that very effortless, no makeup, makeup, look, and very fast. One standout product is the miracle bomb. It's a multitasker that you can use as literally anything. It's a tent. It's a blush. It's a bronzer. It's a lip color. It's buildable. It gives you a natural glow in under a minute. And Jones Road Beauty also offers a full
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Starting point is 00:54:39 insightful analysis, whenever you want, straight to you on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you fucking kidding me? This guy wants to create a ballroom for his rich friends while completely turning a blind eye to the fact that babies are going to starve when the snap benefits end in just hours from now? Come on. So what, I'm not going to be distracted by, oh, does the guy have a big hammer?
Starting point is 00:55:08 What about those babies? What? She's, Kay, is a hit point. Kane. What about the babies? That, that's, that's, that's Kamala Harris, who's very upset. She says, she's talking about Trump. She says he wants to create a ballroom for his rich friends. Can I just, full stop for a second. First off, welcome back. Everybody. Everybody's got their sodies. Y'all got your tea. Y'all top dog. your coffee. Okay, Pulp's here. Welcome back to chats at Rumble. If you're not listening terrestrially in one of the 50 states and then also in Canada and elsewhere, then you can
Starting point is 00:55:49 live stream the show, Channel 347 DirecTV for the millionth time. For the Epstein time, Kane, the ballroom is paid for by private non-taxpayer money. It stays at the White House. when Trump leaves the White House, he's not going to pack up the ballroom like a pack and play and take it with him to Mara Lago. Just so we are convinced, Kaine, I watched some of the construction videos that are on this service that we call the Internet. and they were placing giant concrete things on their cane. That looks like that would be a lot to pack up and take to Mar-a-Lago. So the ballroom stays at the White House.
Starting point is 00:56:51 So that means whoever, whome is going to be in the White House after POTUS, they are going to be able to use the ballroom. Okay. Currently, it's just a bunch of us, well, now it's not even existence, but it was a bunch of asbestosies. That's a word, right? Asbesto-e, we're making that a word. Offices that were small and cramped and not really into use. And when people came for state dinners, they would walk through the East Wing.
Starting point is 00:57:29 they would get the little picture. You guys saw the little, the photo call wall. They get the little picture. Then they have to go outside. Cold rain doesn't matter. Then they go outside in a giant tent. This is to eliminate the having to eat in a tent. It's also more secure, just saying. So it stays there. It is a free ballroom. Kane, you got a free ballroom. room. I got a free ballroom. You guys all got a free ballroom. That's our ball. It's the people's ballroom. And it's all private money. Now, if Trump was, again, packing it up like a pack and play and could take it much in the way how Hillary Clinton stole cutlery and dishes and all kinds of stuff from the White House when she left, you guys remember that, right? The Clintons stole
Starting point is 00:58:29 when they were leaving the White House after they law after he turned out they actually were required to turn like $30,000 worth of household goods back
Starting point is 00:58:43 because they actually sorry that was what they were required to return they apparently took almost $200,000 of things sorry they took furnishings they took gifts because if you give
Starting point is 00:58:59 So say that you, say that you're a ceramics artist and you do a wonderful platter that you would like for the first family to have and you give it to them. They can't keep it personally. If it's a gift, if it's a value over X amount, it's not, I mean, they have to record everything. But that's not something they can keep. It goes into this repository of gifts. And they kind of circulate. They have a whole committee that is all about keeping the White House running and they change things out and do it. all this stuff. So that's, nothing is given to you that is like actually yours. So they, they ended up,
Starting point is 00:59:36 they, I mean, who takes a rug? The Clintons took the rugs. They took literal rugs. They stole cutlery. Who does that? That's like staying at the hotel and, you know, taking all their linens. That's so, that is so, and I say this is somebody who comes from a rural area and you could definitely say, God love them. I think rednecks are the best people ever. But that's like, that's so declasset. It's all, it's not redneck because it insults rednecks. It's just trashy. Right. It's trashy. They stole all of these things. They, I mean, they had even gifts that were given to them, but it was specifically, they were specifically intended to be a permanent part of the White House collection. They were taking those. I am trying to wrap my head. I am. I am trying to wrap my
Starting point is 01:00:28 head around. Legit walking. I mean, they took a sofa. They just straight up stole a sofa from the White House. They China, flatware, rugs, televisions. They took televisions. They took all kinds of furnishings. Didn't they
Starting point is 01:00:45 take drapery, I think, too? So it got so bad that there was an investigation that was opened, a government accountability office. And they, actually because of what the Clintons were stealing, the GAO had to come up with this whole other system of tracking gifts and all of this stuff
Starting point is 01:01:07 and to document allegations of like general vandalism and missing items. So you know that when they took the like the W. The Clintons took the W keys out and all this stuff because they, I mean, that's how bad all this stuff was. After he left, they headed Georgia W. Bush, so all of the W. Keys and they took doorknobs. And I'm not kidding you. That's the stuff that they were doing. doing. It was so childish. And the Clintons actually had a lawyer up and deal with it. And then finally, years after, like, I think it was like a year into the W. Bush administration, they considered the matter closed because they had to pay six figures for a lot of the stuff that they stole and return a bunch of stuff. That was the Clintons. So this, I'm putting that up because all of these people that are screaming over the people's ballroom had nothing to say about that. And I know because I looked. I went and I, and I spent about an hour and a half of my life looking to see if they had condemned any of that.
Starting point is 01:02:05 And they hadn't. Not a single peep, not a column. Nothing. Nothing. I mean, they, ABC had a piece on it. I mean, it's all over the Webernets. They had, can you imagine having to shamefully return things? I can't, I just, this is so trashy. It is so trashy. So, and one of the executive managers of the White House, uh, was very, they were reviewing and they thought it was, because it falls under park service, so it's like part of the park service purview. And they had taken stuff that had been earmarked for like one redecoration project, et cetera. It was just insane. So they're all mad over the ballroom that stays there. But they had to say nothing over that. I mean, I don't know. What,
Starting point is 01:02:52 what say you, Kamala? Cut five, one. What does Kamala say to all this? Let's just see. Right. Like, Am I just like, fuck it? What is with this brutalist lighting? Yeah, exactly. Don't ask the question with pretense. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what I mean. Are you just like, it now?
Starting point is 01:03:12 It doesn't matter. Because the book had a fucking energy. Yeah, I think there is that energy in the book. What were all those little swords of Damocles that were hanging about their table? That was very interesting. Oh, my gosh. This is, I don't know. Now, as it relates to the shutdown, this congressperson can't say why she actually doesn't want the government to open and she can't explain her position very well.
Starting point is 01:03:36 This seems to be par for the course with this party. Listen. Sorry, cut 13. They did have a clean CR vote on September 19th in the House. Did you vote for it? I disagree with your characterization and want to make sure that we're very clear about what Republicans have been doing. Any bill that they've put forth, they've always had some extra stuff to it. There's always been a poison pill to it.
Starting point is 01:04:03 So I disagree with your characterization. What were the poison pills of the clean CR or the continuing resolution? You say it's not clean that was voted on in the House in mid-September. Here's what's important. I think what you're trying to do is shift the responsibility to Democrats. She's on the struggle bus with that one. she she can't explain it Democrats are having a time
Starting point is 01:04:28 then there's this Congress or not Congress sorry this is a congressional candidate Democrat Illinois congressional candidate who was charged with impeding federal agents Kat Abagazala right? I actually almost think I got that one
Starting point is 01:04:45 look at that one take Tammy over here I think I probably just got that she well this was a bad interview for her God, 14. When you see that, what do you think right now? You know, Tara, once again, this is my first time being federally indicted, like I said.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah. I plan on not guilty. The evidence will come out before. Does anybody have posture? And I plan on winning. Thank you so much for happening. She rage quits and she's done. She just closed it off.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Just really quickly. I did want to close it off. Golly, people sit up straight when you're doing these things. I'm so tired of people hunched over like cocktail shrimp. Stop it. Sit up. Maybe she needed to go and get. some more hair gel at CVS, that girl, sounds, look like she didn't have enough, clearly.
Starting point is 01:05:33 She showed a video of her banging on a federal agent's car after she was denying banging on a federal agent's car, so she got mad and quit. They're having a hard time right now. They're really having a hard time, very difficult time. And in the meantime, you have one of the endangered Democrats, because he's not insane. John Futterman, cut 15. Here's his advice to his party. A Democrat, you know, we're not allowed to just open this up.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I mean, then our party has bigger problems than I thought we might have already. It's like, that's not controversial. Pay everybody. And you have our workers here borrowed over a third of a billion dollars to pay their own bills. Like, it's a failure. And like I said, to all of the viewers, I'm apologizing that we can't even get our shit together and just open up our government. I like that he's stolen his springtime hoodie. It's the light colored hoodie.
Starting point is 01:06:37 He's got the hoodie pass. He's like just open government right now. Democrats have no idea what to do with him, which is hysterical because they were, because Republicans and I was one of them criticized him and were like maybe, you know, he's, I wasn't saying it as a way to undercut him, but I had said, you know, maybe he needs to prioritize his health. you know and not because he was running like right after getting out of rehab and there were I think there's some legitimate questions to that but he's now like smarter than the rest of his party and he's I mean dang I think you got to protect PROTEC protect fetterman now good night we have more we have florida man on the way all family pharmacy is a family owned business dedicated to helping you get the medications that you need when you need them the most with over 200 essential
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Starting point is 01:08:29 oh, Kelly. There are a couple that are crazy here. I'm trying to figure out which ones. I don't think I want to do this one. Let's do the, we'll start with the, I guess the strippers. Is there, there's a zone for this? Is that what I am to understand, Kane?
Starting point is 01:08:47 I would imagine. Okay, so, CBS, Channel 12, beachgoers arrested for stripping outside the desert, designated stripping zone in St. Lucy County. So it's in Florida. Some Florida folks, there was a surge in complaints about
Starting point is 01:09:01 unauthorized new detain at the wow. Are you serious? This is the name of it? Yeah. Cain. Guys, I'm just reading you the news, okay? I'm just going to read it as is. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 01:09:21 St. Louis, St. Lucy County Sheriff's Office said it is responding to a surge in complaints about unauthorized new detainty. at the Little Mud Creek, boat ramp, known for its nude optional zone. There's a location nearby that's designated as such. The parking area at the Blind Creek Beach is being paved.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Parking lots closed, so a lot of people have to go to Little Mud Creek. I swear, there's a giant cosmic joke that's been played on me right now. The sheriff's office says that you, if you go naked at a beach, it is not clothing optional, then you will get arrested. And why is it always people who need to go to the gym that are pictured? I'm just saying. They have warning signs all over at Little Mud Creek. I cannot believe this is the name of it. I cannot. I'm done. I'm done with this story. So they're arresting people. That's it. I'm done. I'm not even, it gets worse. It gets worse. If you can believe that it does. Let's talk about the Florida man that woke up from a coma to blame his
Starting point is 01:10:35 pregnant girlfriend for a car crash before he kicked the bucket. Dang. I mean, that's some spite right there. Headline, Florida man wakes from coma to blame pregnant girlfriend from car crash, full car crash, before dying from injuries. He's accused his pregnant, well, they said pregnant wife, and then now it's girlfriend, which one is it, of purposely calling a violent car crash that sent him into a coma, and then he tragically succumbed to his injuries, but he woke up apparently just enough to say it's her fault. He said his girlfriend, quote, he said his girlfriend said, quote, I don't care what happens. You'll get what you deserve.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Started driving recklessly on Interstate 95 in Flager County. They were reportedly in the middle of an argument. And according to court papers, and he called, he recalled that his girlfriend caused the car to roll into a tree, severely injuring both. And he slipped into a coma, but recovered enough to make the claims against her.
Starting point is 01:11:29 She's, wow. She and the baby survived the car crash, and she was taken into custody. Oh my gosh, that's insane. Florida woman teacher shows up high on cocaine to work and then lets her kids hit her vape pin. Cape Coral is what happens. I was just saying.
Starting point is 01:11:51 They said the teacher shut up to work, high as they cut on cocaine, and then allowed her students to use her vape. Nuria Akuna, that's the teacher at Island Coast High School in Cape Coral. They, friends of hers literally are all talking the press. They say it's heartbreaking, but not surprising. But yeah, she's
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Starting point is 01:13:30 Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you, top of this third hour. And you can also watch us do the radio program, Channel 347, Direct TV, if you're not listening terrestrially as well. All those stuff that we've been talking about as of late, it sort of feels like we're racing to the bottom. We're going to have like the Fuentes versus the Mamdani's. And it's not about whose principles win. It's just about power. It's not even going to be.
Starting point is 01:13:59 There's not going to be. there's not going to be conserving of anything. It doesn't even matter. It's just who gets to control the lever. That's what it's all about. That's what all of this is barreling towards. And there are people that are standing and waving their arms, screaming, what are we conserving? What is all this for in the first place? It can't just be about who controls the lever of power. Yes, it's part of it. But if you're an empty vessel and you're not advocating for anything other than just power, plain brutal power, than how were you any different than any other tyrant that's ever lived? That's the whole point.
Starting point is 01:14:31 That's the whole point of this. Goodness. We're having our friend David Lumbach is going to, he's bottom of the hour, I believe. And tell people what to expect. So we are going to be talking with the president of the Heritage Foundation, Kevin Roberts. He's going to be, how's that going to work for folks? Yeah. So it'll happen right after the end of the live show.
Starting point is 01:14:49 We'll do live to tape so that we can premiere it on YouTube the following hour. And so people will be. able to consume it in the 4 o'clock Eastern, 3 o'clock central hour on YouTube. Well, we'll try to get up as soon as possible. I'm not going to make everybody wait for an hour. We'll just, we just, we just need a, we want to. At the most, they'd be waiting 20 to 30 minutes. Yeah. Okay. That's not too bad. What are they waiting on? For the premiere at the top of the hour at 4 p.m. Eastern.
Starting point is 01:15:17 No, I'm just saying because you know people are going to be like, why isn't it not immediate? I want to get ahead of all the, all of the, all of the, all of the phones in the racks in Pakistan. I want to get ahead of all their questions. That'll never happen. The show ends at 3 p.m. Eastern time. We then do the interview and then at 4 p.m. Eastern is when that will air. So the length of that interview and then the top of the hours all we were waiting and then it premieres on YouTube at 4 o'clock Eastern. Right. Right, right, right. So we'll have that immediately. And we're not going to edit anything. We'll after we'll have some clips, but we're going to have the full version up there. And we'll post it on X as well. And then we'll
Starting point is 01:16:00 have timestamps for this, this, this, so you can see what we're talking about and win. But this is all in response to that video that they put out. I was telling you earlier, I really do feel like this is a battle for, it's a battle for what happens when Trump is turned out. And it's a battle over power. And I think that there's this splinter faction that is within the right that's seeking to derail the entire thing. I mean, you have to remember, like, even Trump and Tucker had it out. Like, Trump called him Kooky Tucker Carlson because Tucker was really mad over what happened with Iran. You remember the strikes in Iran when you had Israel that was going after certain Hezbollah and Hamas entities. And they were also going after some of the munitions, et cetera, nuke stuff with Iran. The United States
Starting point is 01:16:49 was working, also striking out some of the nuke facilities with Iran. Ron. And the accusation was that Trump was going to pull us into World War III that never happened. It did not happen. And then you have the issue of who voted what. I mean, the guy that he had interviewed, that Fuentes guy didn't even vote for Trump in 2024. I don't even know that he voted for him in 2020. I don't even know that he voted for him in 2016 because he's previously, attacked him. But he was actually trying to advocate for not voting for him. So I got a question, if you're attacking POTUS's foreign policy, and then if you're not voting for him and you're trying to get other people voting for him, you're a splinter faction that's seeking to undermine
Starting point is 01:17:40 the administration. And they're trying to take the entire right down with it. They are trying to be in position. They want to be in a position of power so that when Trump turns out, they're going to be there to take over the reins. And you have a lot of these. This is one of the reasons why I never chased clickbait stuff and why I have been, I've fought with my own bosses on this stuff. I have never wanted to do this stuff. I've never wanted to get involved in this, like, it's a prostitution. It's social prostitution. It's digital prostitution is all it is.
Starting point is 01:18:11 When you do this for clicks, I'm always told you've got to get in the algorithm. I'm not going to debase myself by pretending that the hobo behind the quick trip has valuable opinions. so I can get into the algorithm. That is such a debasement. Good night. Trends come and go also. And the way things work, algorithms change.
Starting point is 01:18:33 But the whole point of this is that this, you're making it look acceptable this power grab. That's what it seems like. I mean, Kane, would you think that someone
Starting point is 01:18:46 who's very critical of POTUS's foreign policy and then didn't vote for him? Does it sound like they support the administration? It doesn't actually. So it's actually quite opposite. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:56 People get, and I notice these same people get angry at me because I had a different choice in the primary. And they try to, you know, make up all kinds of, so primaries are four. I mean, I'm in an American. I'm an American and I feel like a lot of these people, these are very anti-American viewpoints. If they think that you can't exercise your free will in the primary, that sounds like some King George stuff. I mean, we have a free and fair election. Now I voted for Trump and the generals.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Well, who are you going to have? Kamala? Who are you going to have Hillary? You're going to have Joe Biden? No. But I think it's interesting that there are people that were enraged at me because I had a different choice in the primary. I never told people not to vote for Trump in the general election. And it would be easy to find it because literally everything I've ever said in my life since 2020, since 2008 is online.
Starting point is 01:19:48 So it wouldn't be difficult, Kane. And whatever they use this stupid screenshot, of that National Review article about never Trumpers. And then they don't bother looking in the top left corner of that damn picture. And it says February of 2015. It's like you do know that's when the primaries were going on. It had just started. Nice try, but it's stupid.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Exactly. And for those who read my column, my concern in 2016 was over a Second Amendment stuff. I was very concerned. and it was questioning, you know, when you have someone, and at that point he was entirely unproven, and that's not unreasonable for anybody, especially back in 2016. But people are mad at me because I didn't bend the need of the rage mob. That's what it is. I never told anyone, I never, I never, I never called the man a racist. I've actually known him. I never called him,
Starting point is 01:20:42 I never told people to not vote for him, but that's what others have done. But it's because I could not be, I could not be bent. and that's why they were so mad because it's threatening when you can't be bent it's threatening and they know it and i know that they know it so all of this is about a battle for what's happening after 2028 and there are individuals out there because we live now in this clickbait economy digitally which i don't think x monetizing engagement has helped with that at all now you have people that used to you would capture the audience. Now the audience has captured them and the audience that has captured them is not like you guys out there. It's not you guys. They're looking at like the zoomer, hardcore zoomer people who have these insane, not well-formed ideas about geopolitical issues.
Starting point is 01:21:38 And that's what we're looking at. These are the people who think that every Christian is a Zionist and then thus they're bad. And they don't even understand what Christian Zionism is. They don't even understand revelation. They don't even understand scripture. They're not even actually Christian. They just like saying the phrase Christ is king as a blasphemous way to attack people that they, that are Jewish. That's really why they're doing it. I mean, the Lord can judge their hearts.
Starting point is 01:22:05 So if they feel confident in that, you know, there you go. But that's what it's really about. And the reason that you kind of need to be aware of this is because I guarantee you your kids are. your grandkids definitely are. Or maybe you are and your kids are. But they're trying, when you have some of these longstanding legacy organizations that feel like they have to wade into the sphere, that's a very troubling sign. And this, I mean, it's, it's the energy and the anger at some point, I mean, this is just, this is bad. It's just bad all around.
Starting point is 01:22:46 There's no other way to put it. People are trying to conflate the criticism of Israel as a standalone nation with being, oh, well, you're just calling us anti-Semites. There's a difference between it. I mean, if you're going after Jewish people, then, yeah, you're anti-Semitic. If you're saying, well, I don't like what Herzog said here. Well, that's a different. That's different. No one's saying you can't criticize anything.
Starting point is 01:23:11 And I find it funny that these accusations are made, but names are never given. Like who literally is telling you that you can't say this? Like name names for crying out loud. Clickbait economy. That'll get you some views. Name names. Can't because it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, Maute Bailey is what it is.
Starting point is 01:23:28 We're going to come back to this. Can I play really quickly this little video of the little fuzzy AI thing? Please. Please. So guys, do you want an AI hamster? Yeah, you do. It's called them Moflin? It's a guinea pig sized AI companion.
Starting point is 01:23:43 It looks like a little baby. cousin it from Adam's family. Will you play this one? I don't know if I think it's cute or not. It's weird. Look at it. It's so weird. It's an AI pet. And it's a fluffy robot. It's designed to behave similarly to a pet using emotional AI. And it has more than four million unique personalities. Does it have eyes? And people pet it. Does it have it? You don't, it's like a, it's a tomogachi with fur. It's a, it's a tamagachie. You know how many tomogachis are dead? So bad.
Starting point is 01:24:17 This is like a real-time Tomogachi. There's no, I don't think it has eyeballs. Does it have eyeballs? I don't think it does. It's weird. It's a guinea pig-sized AI companion. It's a treble. Let's just be real.
Starting point is 01:24:29 It's a triple. Don't feed the thing. It's a treble. Would you get one, Kane? I would get one. You know what it'll do? It'll suffocate you a night while you're sleeping. Probably super strong.
Starting point is 01:24:40 You don't even know. The fact that it has four million personalities. I know. It leads me to. believe it has other capabilities. Yeah. I'm like, what, what is? Like keeping track of me and movements and things
Starting point is 01:24:54 that go on around it. So, no. It's a surveillance ploy is what it is. It's going to spy on you. You're a little Moflin. I wouldn't, I don't, I mean, I can barely talk myself into getting a Roomba. I'm still, someone's like, did you ever get your
Starting point is 01:25:09 robot vacuum? No, I haven't yet. I can't make up my mind because I don't want it to kill me while I sleep. or tell the feds what I have. Look, these are all the gun she's got. I don't want, I don't want it to know that. You know, I don't know, man. I got issues.
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Starting point is 01:27:08 I don't know. I lost it somewhere. What's that? Yeah, okay, well, I will tell you guys, you heard Kane talking about, we're going to have the heritage. We've got David Lumbogg who's going to be coming up. Yeah, for some reason I just ended up losing entirely. I can't find my rundown. All right, so we had a JetBlue flight that diverted to Tampa after an altitude, I can't even imagine what that altitude drop is like. After an altitude drop, injured, at least 15 people.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Yeah, Jet, I don't think I've ever, I don't know if I've ever been on a JetBlue flight. Have you? I haven't, no. Yeah, I don't think I've ever been on, like, an actual jet blue flight. But apparently the altitude drop was pretty rough. And people were injured, hitting their heads, things of that nature. Definitely not anything. I'm imagining there was vomiting.
Starting point is 01:27:58 I would. It was going from Cancun, Boundford, Newark. So it was going to Jersey. So they were able to, their turbulence and a million other things, getting involved in that. So let's see, blah, blah, blah. Oh, some of your kids' Halloween candy could be adult kind of. of candy. Police are warning about dangerous lookalike candy. Did Ken Pax? No. Dan Patrick write that? Not Ken Paxson. Goodness, no. Dan Patrick. Did Dan Patrick write this? Dan Patrick probably wrote
Starting point is 01:28:30 this story. Look out kids. They said that counterfeit candy, but I think they're talking about counterfeit candy, not even gummies. They think they're talking about like the cheap knockoff candy that looks like maybe a jolly rancher or looks like the suckers or whatever, they said, just be careful. But then they did say separately that, well, there's some that contain THC and hallucinogenic stuff. But would they give that out? I thought they aren't like drugies, like greedy? Why would they give out their drugs?
Starting point is 01:29:01 That doesn't make any sense. I mean, granted, I'm going by film stereotypes. Evil is evil. Right. I just can't imagine. Because I don't know how expensive that stuff is. I can't imagine people like, yeah, I'll go ahead and give you my specially purchased, whatever. I can't imagine that happening.
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Starting point is 01:30:47 I love this track, God's Country, by YouTube. It's a great track to intro a segment. For those of you who are listening terrestrily around the country, or if you're watching online, Channel 347 DirecTV, chats at Rumble, been having some really tough conversations. I never thought we would actually, I never thought this would actually be a conversation we would have on the right.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Joining me right now, one of my really good friends, and I have so much respect for this man and his consistency, and also his patience with other people. I think it's kind of like a, you know, like a playbook as to how to deal with some of the more caustic splinter factions that are out there. Our very good friend, David Limbaugh, who is a New York Times bestselling author.
Starting point is 01:31:27 He's a bestselling everything, and he's an attorney, a commentator and the case for Christ, he's got all kinds of amazing books out there. And of course, you know, his late amazing brother who created the industry in which so many of us make our living, the late Rush Limbaugh, he joins us now via video. David, it's so good to see you, my friend. Neyne, great to see you, long time, no see. I know. And I wish it was under kind of like a different topic that we were coming together to talk about. I'm really worried about what is happening with the right right now, with the, and I just call them the woke rake, this kind of splinter
Starting point is 01:32:05 faction within the right that seems, I feel like it's a big giant sciop to undermine the administration and hijack control of the conservative movement, even beyond 2028. What are your kind of overall thoughts on why this is happening? You're exactly right. We are so far ahead of Trump is running circles around the left and the Democrats are in such disarray, leave it to us to figure out how to screw up ourselves. And the only chance the Democrats have getting back in the door in the short term is for us to shoot ourselves in the foot, and we are doing a masterful job. I initially thought that some of this stuff, some of these fringe voices on the right
Starting point is 01:32:48 were just fringe and they were on the margin. But now there's more people defending them, which is what prompted me to post a tweet last night. about this. Yes. And you've talked about this at length. And I actually really like the things that you've shared online because you're very thoughtful in your approach. And you're questioning it too, because it seems like it comes down to, honestly, Israel and Jewish people. That's what this all seems to come down to. And the defense that we usually hear from these splinter factions is, oh, well, you're telling us that we can't criticize Israel. Well, no one's ever said that, David. I've looked in your timeline. You've never said that to anyone. I've never said that. But there's a
Starting point is 01:33:30 difference between questioning policy and government and then questioning people as an ethno state. That's right. And there has to be something more behind this than just disagreeing with Israel. Because there's an underlying resentment that you can smell from the tweets of these people. They have resentment about Israel. They have resentment about those of us who support Israel. resentment about the Christians who believe it's biblical to support Israel. And so there's, and then notice the people who are attacking those of us who are defending Israel, there's an ugliness about that clique of people, not all of them, but a lot of them. And when Kevin Roberts at the Heritage Foundation posted his video defending Tucker, if I may bring that up.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Yes, of course, yes, we've been talking about it, yeah. That's what spurred me into responding. I do not like conflict on Twitter. I have conflict in my daily job, my lawyer job, but I don't like to attack people on the right. And even when my friends, I'm kind of like Megan Kelly. I don't want to go after my friends, but there's a certain point that you have no choice. In fact, I figured that when I posted this, I would bring down wrath on myself and I thought, okay, it doesn't matter because I have a duty to do this. We are about saving the nation and whatever contributions we can, we can, can make to that end, and you make great contributions every day, but I don't really have a platform,
Starting point is 01:35:01 but I thought I've got to jump in this with whatever relevance I have because it's a matter of conscience. And I disagree with almost everything Kevin said in his video. And I like the guy, by the way. I love that he's an ally. I love the fact that Heritage has supported Trump and made adjustments that way. But I really, I would like to take issue with him on some specific points if we get into it. Well, and that's just the thing. And for those just joining, we're talking with our good friend David Limbaugh, because, you know, the video that Heritage came out with, and I agree with you, first of all, why would they even do this video? I mean, Republicans are winning on the shutdown messaging. Why in the war? No one asked for this. And this just sucked all the attention out of the room.
Starting point is 01:35:42 That's right. And that's a telltale sign. I was going to start with this. Kevin was very aggressive on this video. He was, he went beyond defending Tucker. he affirmatively attacked his critics, which would include me, although I hadn't yet spoken on it very strongly. And I know he wouldn't intend to personally attack me. He's always been friendly or you. But he needs to listen to his tone. Why would he do that? I can only assume that he's really good friends with Tucker and was defending him. But let's listen to what Tucker said instead of how nice of a guy he may be and what he's been saying. I mean, why did he do it? He represents the Heritage Family. Foundation, which has more than just a unilateral vision.
Starting point is 01:36:28 There's a lot of people in there that disagree, and why would he step in it like that? I thought it was very ill-advised. You know, he talked about really drew strong lines between Israel and the United States. If you, you know, we're America first. Well, I think that's a false choice. I'm totally America first, but I'm so supportive of Israel, and I don't see any conflict. Every once in a while, there may be a conflict, and so we call it out. We're America first.
Starting point is 01:36:54 But he said canceling, he said, we're canceling our own people. Who are our people? And by the way, what does cancellation mean? If you don't provide a platform for somebody, as opposed to deep platform, just don't give them a platform. That's not canceling them. That's not promoting their vile, vulgar ideas. And so, in fact, Kevin's smarter than this.
Starting point is 01:37:18 And he's more logical than this. This has to be from a place of emotion. our friendship that he's doing this. He says we've got to focus on our political adversaries on the left. How do we focus on them if we're busy fighting each other? And you, Kevin, my good friend, are contributing to our fighting with each other. When you, instead of marginalizing people who ought to be marginalizing, you give them more credibility under the banner of an organization that we've so respected all these years.
Starting point is 01:37:49 It really serves to drive a wedge. And I like Tucker personally. I don't know him that well, but I like him personally. But he's taken some indefensible positions, in my view, and his instincts are with the wrong people. And to even be in the same room with Nick Fuentes, that malicious freak. And by the way, I don't normally call people names like this, but Fuentes is vile. Have you heard, have you watched some of this video? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:15 We played some of it for the audience, so they'd have an idea. And so why would Tucker want to be involved unless he agrees with him on some stuff? And if he does, he's spiritually misguided. I think he's relatively new Christian. I think if I were relatively new, I would hold my fire until I learned a little more and acquired more biblical wisdom. Because he's taken some positions that are just flat out, objectively wrong. And I am disappointed in him, but I haven't written him off as a human being.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Right. I just, wow. You know. Does it shock you that godly discernment is now being called cancellation? Yeah, absolutely. And we have a duty to call out sin, I'm not talking about Tucker's sinning or any of that. But today, if you don't empathize with, if you don't embrace toxic empathy and put emotions above scripture, then there's something wrong with you and you're a bad, intolerant Christian. Well, I believe love requires that we call out sin and that we call out that we are clear, morally clear about what's right and wrong and what's advisable for us to do in this world and in this country.
Starting point is 01:39:27 And we've got to realize we're in a spiritual warfare. And that's the only way I can explain some of this nonsense. Again, I don't know why Kevin would do this because he's elevating. I know you're, I think you're going to have him on later. Again, I'm not personally attacking him. This is not personal. I think if I're in the room with, with, there's one reason I don't like to talk about people. But, but, but I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you know, I, I, you do police
Starting point is 01:39:50 your back to reconsider what he did. Where, where, what, I, it just makes me wonder why people feel like they have to take these paths and entertain these, you know, these sorts of positions that, you know, yes, you, you, you, you, you, you, I, I can't imagine, you know, I, I can't imagine, you know, you know, you know, you know, Thomas and not pushing back Leah Thomas on Leah Thomas. We're talking about men and women's sports and just kind of having a softball. Yet people criticize that. That's not no, that's called accountability. And that's something that's to be expected from your own side. And I just think, why are people taking these routes? Is it because they're afraid? Are they afraid of losing power after Trump turns out? Are they trying, it feels like it's a giant power jockeying competition and that
Starting point is 01:40:40 people aren't even concerned about what principles are elevated, just who controls the levers of power. That's what it's starting to seem more and more like to me in terms of explanation for it. See, I think that it's partly that, but I've always thought conservative influencers were backstabbers, a lot of them. And that's one of the lamentable things about Russ dying prematurely was he helped you not unify the movement under a sane banner. But we've got people now who are vying for power and influence, and they're willing. to stab people in the back. However, with Tucker, I don't know that I see that. I see Tucker as being sincere, which is more troubling, because if he's sincere, then he's misguided, even spiritually. I'm not questioning his salvation or any of that. I'm saying that he is, in my view, spiritually
Starting point is 01:41:30 off base and politically off base on this, and he's running around, you know, metaphorically with the wrong people on this. And why would he do that? Now, one would think, well, he's a grifter, he's just trying to get attention or more money. I don't think that. I think Tucker is sincere, but misguided. And that troubles me worse. And I hope he listens to people who, and we just don't get into a, you know, wedding contest with each other, because when you do that, you will put people back in a defensive position in their pride surfaces,
Starting point is 01:42:06 and they might not reconsider what they're doing. I'm asking Tucker and even Kevin to humbly, prayerfully reconsider the positions they're taking. We cannot split the movement like this, and I guarantee you, if this view prevails, there will be no powerful MAGA movement in the future, because there are too many people, too many strong Christians leading the pack, who love Israel and who realize Israel's role in the world, and that they're God's chosen people, and we can get into all kinds of theological debates about Jews not being saved if you want to go. But that's not what this is about.
Starting point is 01:42:44 This is about, yeah. Well, to your point, real quick, there was one thing that I had heard in the interview that Tucker and I'd asked them about this privately, because I always follow a very, you know, gospel approach with disagreements with people that I consider friends that I'm friendly with. I always go back channel first.
Starting point is 01:43:02 But there was a point in which he had said that he, hated. And that was the word to use. That's a very strong word to use. Hated Christian Zionist. And I just thought you know, I don't know if I define myself as a Christian Zionist. I'm a Christian. And I just like strategically, tactically, and I feel like, you know, thousands of years of antiquity
Starting point is 01:43:19 supports these people being in this land, this is their land, and that's how I view it, and they have every right to a sovereign state. But that being said, why is there more hatred for someone over in his mind a perceived dispute over the interpretation
Starting point is 01:43:34 of revelation and not as much hate for Islamists. I mean, he said that Hamas was a political organization, not a terrorist one. This is why I say it's spiritual and maybe even demonic, because we've always heard, since I was a kid about the Holocaust, never again, about anti-symethism, never again. And I always thought, you know, the Germans probably weren't, the German people were probably not that different than we are. A lot of us are German descent. And this happened, and we can't be so presumptuous as to assume this kind of thing couldn't happen.
Starting point is 01:44:09 And I thought that early on, but really thinking it wouldn't. Here we are. We are witnessing people that we formally respect, and still respect in some ways, taking positions like this that are indefensible and they are supportive of evil positions, and you go, how can this be possible? I can only explain it. Because people are, there's a burgeoning hatred. a resurgence of hatred for the Jewish people.
Starting point is 01:44:36 It's on the left and now on the so-called right. And how could this happen if it weren't spiritual? Because it makes no sense in the material world to be. That's a great point. Our good friend David Lumbaugh, we can't go this long without talking to each other on through video again. You've got to come back. You're welcome anytime, you know. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:44:55 And sorry to be, I don't mean to be that aggressive. I'm accusing. You know what? I'm glad you are because we need that. I mean, I really feel like this is if not a time, is such as this to be this aggressive about, you know, godly truth and when? What do we still keeping our powder for? I think Kevin's a person of goodwill. I even think Tucker is, I just think they're off base on this. Right. And I don't know why. And you can, and people can disagree without
Starting point is 01:45:17 malice. And that's what, that's what I love that you're, you're showcasing here. David Lumbaw, a very good friend. Go and find him on X. I think I actually just tweeted you. So it's right up there. David, so good to see you. I so appreciate your thoughts. Thank you, my friend. Say hello to Chris. I will. God bless you. Thank you. Brighten up your timely news consumption with a Dana Show podcast, where every update comes with a little dash of not so serious on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. I almost dressed like Johnny Ramon today, or Joey Ramon today, rather. I was Joey. I was going to go. I was going to be Josephine Ramon. But then I, or Daria, because we're going to a costume thing tonight. And you guys know I take, you know, the Halloween fun very seriously. It's very whimsical. So I'm going to be doing some major cultural appropriation.
Starting point is 01:46:04 I don't know. It's like an Egyptian thing just because I don't have to get a wig and just put the... So it's like a Cleopatra kind of thing. So it'll be fun. I will share photos on my social media. But it'll be fun. But yeah, I was thinking... I went as Elizabeth Warren one year.
Starting point is 01:46:21 And then her people did not like that. And then, no, not her, like, fake Indian people because she's not an Indian. Like, her campaign didn't like it. and then yeah I was going to go with Joey Ramon today so are you dressing up tonight can you giving out candy I am not giving out candy and I'm not dressing up not at all not doing it I'm busting the porch light wow it's I swear no old people are going to come on your porch because I don't really hate old people I don't really hate old people I'm just I just know they're not all innocent all right today in stupidity Woody all right one cut this will be 23 done lemon
Starting point is 01:46:59 I don't know. I didn't know he was transphobic. He was out there always criticizing people of being transphobic, but here, listen to this. Is Megan Kelly chopped? I don't know what that means. I don't know what is chopped. I've heard it, but I don't know what that means. What does chop mean? She's going to get mad in media. I don't know if I want this.
Starting point is 01:47:15 What does chop mean? Chop means like not hot. She's chopped. I don't know. The whole MAGA look. It's all the MAGA ladies and look. Kind of looks like. Well, I mean, if you want inside there's video definition of it, right there's video definition of it, right there.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Folks, that does it for us tonight. God bless. Watch the Roberts interview coming up.

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