The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Oval Office Fallout, An Oscars Reaction & Nick Searcy Joins Us

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

Dana recaps the fiery Oval Office meeting on Friday between Trump and Zelenskyy. Norway says it will keep supplying fuel to the US navy after a company calls for a boycott. Joy Reid tries to quote Lor...d Of The Rings to call Trump a King. Dana reacts to the underwhelming reveal of some of the Epstein Files. The House GOP looks for moderate Democrats to be able keep the government open and fulfill President Trump’s agenda. Actor, Director and Producer Nick Searcy joins us to share some of his memories of the late Gene Hackman and to reflect upon his legacy in culture following Sunday’s Oscars.  Dana recaps Sunday night’s Oscars including the wokest moments, Kieran Culkan’s pro-family acceptance speech and Miley Cyrus’ eyebrows. Stephen Yates from Heritage joins us to share his reaction to Trump’s Oval Office meeting with Zelenskyy, Europe’s guilt trip and Trump’s negotiations.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Relief Factorhttps://relieffactor.comTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3 week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Goldcohttps://DanaLikesGold.com My personal, gold company - get your GoldCo 2025 Gold & Silver Kit. PLUS, you could qualify for up to $15,000 in BONUS silverAll Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/DanaCode Dana10 for 10% off your entire orderByrnahttps://byrna.com/danaDon’t leave yourself or your loved ones without options. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://patriotmobile.com/DanaDana’s personal, cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://humann.comSupport your metabolism and healthy blood sugar levels with Superberine by HumanN. Find it now at your local Sam’s Club next to SuperBeets Heart Chews.  Tax Network USAhttps://TNUSA.com/DANADon’t let the IRS’s aggressive tactics control your life, empower yourself with Tax Network USA’s support.  Reach a USA based agent @ 1(800) 958-1000 - Don’t fight the IRS aloneKelTechttps://KelTecWeapons.comSee the NEW PS57 - Keltec Innovation & Performance at its bestNative Pathhttps://GetNativePath.com/DanaNot just for skin - essential for healthy joints and bones! Get NativePath Collagen for up to 45% off + FREE shipping!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if you are not strong... Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come to the Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the President for trying to bring it into this conflict. Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have?
Starting point is 00:00:24 I have been to... Come once. I have actually watched and seen the stories, and I have actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President. Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military? And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country? A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:00:51 First of all, during the war, everybody has problems. Even you, but you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel. feel it in the future. God bless. You don't know that. God bless. You don't know that. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. I'm not telling you. Because you're in no position to dictate that. Remember this. You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. We're going to feel very good. We're going to feel very good and very strong. You're right now not in a very good position. You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position and he's happened to be right about it.
Starting point is 00:01:31 From the very beginning of the war, Mr. Brown. You're not in a good position. You don't have the cards right now. With us, you start having cards. Right now you're playing cards. I'm not playing cards. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War III.
Starting point is 00:01:47 You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country. This was a disaster. This was a disaster. I wanted to say they should have. Have you said thank you once? And I wanted to come into the program with this because so much of what we're talking about is all about, it's all about this.
Starting point is 00:02:15 What the response was, what this means for Ukraine, how Europe is reacting to it, the whole nine yards. It's pretty wild. I'm still, I take one. one day and all hell breaks loose. That's what ends up happening. I take one day and all, absolutely all hell breaks loose. And this, you know, Friday was no different.
Starting point is 00:02:40 So welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this first hour on Monday. And I'm just looking over some of the last, some of the stuff I was, last minute stuff I was looking at before we came in on air because I just got, so I got to say, first off, I think it was ridiculous for Zelensky to have that kind of an attitude. For Zelensky to have that type of attitude going into this meeting was one of the dumbest things I think I've ever seen in my life. The deal was basically done. This rare earth minerals deal was
Starting point is 00:03:15 essentially finished. You know, he goes in there. And apparently now Zelensky wants to come back to it, which, you know, we kind of knew I think was going to happen. But, the mineral rights deal, that was just the thing to finalize it. And that he decided, and I listened before the program started, I listened to the entire discussion because I thought, okay, what, why did he just decide to kick off? Maybe, you know, and I'm just like playing devil's advocate here. You know, maybe they had like an exchange of words or something before, you know, something. And I listened to the discussion leading up to it. And no, it was pretty much Zelensky, I think, not understanding how to be a diplomat. That's probably the most gracious way I could put it. He doesn't understand what it is to be a
Starting point is 00:04:07 diplomat. And when you are your nation's leader and you're walking into an oval office meeting with these greater powers that be, one of the things that you don't do is be disrespectful and run your mouth and take little jabs here and there, which is what he did. did, and I will have you remember, as I mentioned last week, you know, this guy came here during the election cycle and was de facto campaigning for Kamala Harris. So let's not forget this stuff. So there's a little bit of a history there. But he did not need to have that kind of attitude. Now, some people blame J.D. Vance, and they say, oh, Vance got in it, got in it, and he really amped it up. Well, if he did, then Zelensky gave him that response. Do I think that Vance
Starting point is 00:04:52 escalated it, maybe a little bit. But what kind of response did you expect anybody to have if you're hosting a nation that only comes to you with its handout stretch for money? And there are a lot of questions about the whereabouts of the money that have been given to Ukraine. There's a lot of questions. We'll talk about some of them as it pertains to, I told you this, the pensions that are being paid. I mean, we're paying for people's pensions. And you guys, it's insane. So there's a lot of discontent. intentment about this and from the American people, not just from the two elected officials that Zalinski was sitting there talking with. and Zelinsky, it seems like he was completely oblivious to those sentiments as he sat in the chair with a very, I mean, he's got his arms crossed, he's, you know, sitting on the edge. And I also think, too, wear a damn suit when you go into the Oval Office. I know that that's like a smaller criticism. And you would think, well, Dana, he's all in black. I thought you liked that. Yeah, but you know what? I mean, I literally, even though it's waist up, because you can't see my legs, I will literally do the TV mullet when I'm, if I'm doing a TV hit, I'll wear a, I'll wear business up. He can't wear business up. He can't wear a, he can't wear
Starting point is 00:05:59 business all over just to walk in for an oval. I've seen people that have dressed nicer to go to Tom Thumb or Kroger than they did going to a meeting with the president and advice. So can we stop the cosplay? Can we just stop? Like you own a suit. I know you do. Quit. It just is nice. Just it's respectful. It shows it's like a gesture of goodwill. People who complain about it or say that it's not a big deal don't understand diplomacy. They don't understand diplomacy because Trump likes dudes in suits. Trump expects you to dress the part. and good diplomats remove their heads from their backsides and play to these strengths instead of saying, well, I'm not doing that I'm too good or that's stupid.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Is the goal to actually get what you want? Because then you will manipulate that person, even if that means arriving up to an Oval Office meeting in a suit. So he doesn't understand what it is to be a diplomat or his ego is too big or both of them. But he's already starting to walk a lot of this back, which I find really interesting. He's already starting to walk quite a bit of it back. We've got this to discuss because, you know, we've, there was a lot of blaming. The media was saying that it was a setup. I don't know how an hour conversation preceding that dust up was a setup.
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's stupid. I can't, our media, just, you know, let them, if you just let them loose, they will disappoint you. So the media went all in. I saw a lot of that over the weekend. And was, they were defending Zelensky. I, you saw some of the stuff. There's like a couple of operas at the Oscars. I was defending Zelensky.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And, and saying that this is, saying that this was, I don't know, all, I'm just trying to think of the collection of weeping and ashting of Trump over this. And now look, Europe, I watched a, uh, the way to soundbite or, well, I don't think we have this soundbite, but I saw this over the weekend. I can't remember what I sent and what I haven't. But it was Ursula van der Lein, who's the head of the. European Union who was saying yes, now the, now the European Union, we need to step in. We need to make sure that, you know, we're not, we're not leaving them out to dry, et cetera, et cetera. That's kind of, it's to me that sort of signals that that was kind of maybe perhaps the point of that discussion going the way that it did.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I also wanted to play for you. This was interesting. Kier Starrmer, he said this, audio sound bite nine. But I, it's very interesting because it's, you. seems like now they're even walking that back. Listen, this is their prime minister. Cheers on the street outside. You have full backing across the United Kingdom. And we stand with you with Ukraine for as long as it may take. And I hope you've heard some of that cheering in the street. That is the people of the United Kingdom coming out to demonstrate
Starting point is 00:08:53 how much they support you, how much they support Ukraine. Yeah, but then their British ambassador was saying that Zelensky needs to give his backing to Trump's initiative. Audio sound by 10, listen to this. We need a very radical reset, as you say, in the caption behind you. And the reset has to consist of the United States and Ukraine getting back on the same page. And President Zelensky giving his unequivocal backing to the initiative, that President Trump is taking to end the war and to bring a just and lasting peace to Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And the Europeans, George, too, they need to back the calls for a ceasefire. And by the way, I think that Ukraine should be the first to commit to a ceasefire. Now, this was after all of this, this was even after Kier Starrmer coming out and saying what he said. So it seems like, I don't know, it seems like maybe some sense made its way into Starmor's head, at least through their ambassador there.
Starting point is 00:10:01 But regardless, here's one thing I want to make crystal clear. You can think to both of these things simultaneously. You can believe that Ukraine, yes, it's corrupt. It's a very corrupt country. It's never not been corrupt. It's never not been viewed as not being corrupt. Corrupt country. That's absolutely true.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You can believe that. And you can also believe that maybe Ukraine needs to come to the negotiation. table. You can also believe simultaneously that Vladimir Putin is a geopolitical foe and that this does not make somehow absolve Russia of its offensive invasion, nor does it absolve Russia of anything else. You can believe both of these things. I get really aggravated, especially when I see this amongst the right, because there's so many gait. I have lots of issues to pick with the right right now. And one of them is this. The claim that if you criticize Ukraine in any way, if you criticize the way that the money,
Starting point is 00:11:08 the aid given them has been distributed, if you criticize the story that I brought up, that's I think one of the biggest defense is the pension story, whatever you criticize that somehow you are in the pocket of Vladimir Putin, it's I that's such an illiberal idiotic take and I'm seeing it over and over again even on the right I see people make this argument
Starting point is 00:11:36 as as though one demands the other as though one means the other when it absolutely does not mean that do have conservatives forgotten how to understand nuance or some on the right I should say because I feel like the people that are objecting to this
Starting point is 00:11:53 and are being criticized, they're, the ones who are being criticized at the conservatives, the ones doing the criticizing are not. It's not the same. We're going to talk more about this, but this is exactly audio sound by 12. Chris Murphy, it's a Democrat talking point. Listen to this. So it is absolutely shameful what is happening right now. The White House has become an arm of the Kremlin.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Every single day, you hear from the national security advisor, from the President of the United States, from his entire national security team, Kremlin talking points. The last week, the White House has been pretending as if Ukraine started this war. And this is Chris Murphy, who is a Democrat senator. He was the Democrat senator that was there under Biden Harris. He was the Democrat senator who was there under Obama Biden, where they had Susan Rice and all of these other folks. I mean, keep in mind.
Starting point is 00:12:51 that when things were running the way that they wanted, under Democrats, under people like Chris Murphy, Chris Murphy had no objections. They had no objections at all whatsoever when Russia first began annexing crime or taking over Crimea. And when everything kicking off in Rwanda. And then, of course, don't forget, you had Democrats go out and blame a video for what happened in Benghazi literally went out and they blamed a video that had been up in the internet for years already that had no views and they tried to scapegoat that video and blame a terror attack and the deaths of Americans on it. Never forget what these people did. These were the same individuals that
Starting point is 00:13:38 looked the other way when Russia acquired a Ukrainian facilitation company, or sorry, uranium facilitation company. Don't forget the whole deal under Hillary Clinton. They looked at the Don't forget the Hillary Clinton reset button. I mean, we could go on and on. So I think it's a little bit rich for Democrats to have these kind of responses here. We have a lot more on the way as we roll and head towards headlines. Native Path collagen delivers the two most essential collagen types that your body needs to support strong bones and flexible joints. Whether it's for a post-workout recovery or simply supporting your overall health, Native Path collagen should be your go-to.
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Starting point is 00:15:01 guarantee so you can try it risk free today. And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's quick five. I like the name of this robot lander. It's a robotic lander that a privately built spacecraft that successfully landed on the moon called Blue Ghost. It touched down on the lunar surface early on Sunday. It's the apparently, you know, only one other entities ever have been able to accomplish this. It was an orbiter on the moon for about two weeks and then it did its descent. It's the Texas-based company Firefly Aerospace that developed the craft. It was about 3.30 in the morning on Sunday when it touched down. So huge. The only other one, intuitive machines, their Odysseus Lander pulled off.
Starting point is 00:15:47 That was back in February. So at some point, we're just going to have a bunch of little landers on the moon. But that's neat as a private company that's at it. So Walmart's CEO is warning that food prices are causing frustration and pain. They're now coming around to something that we've been talking about for years on this program,
Starting point is 00:16:04 but they said it was just in our heads. But the CEO said that American consumers, they're showing signs, duh, duh, they're showing signs of stress as food prices remain. stubbornly high, and people are running out of money. They're turning to smaller pack sizes for consumer goods. They said that they're seeing all kinds of indicators for stress, stress with the American consumer. Anybody could have told you that, really. We got a lot more on the way. Tim Wall
Starting point is 00:16:31 says he wants to run for president. And the fight over Bondi and the Epstein file. Stick with us as we move our partners. Then help bring you the program. It's Burn a Gun, the non-firearm. firearm. It's always good to diversify what you have for self-defense, particularly when you have municipalities or even private property restrictions that mean you might have to be defenseless. Nobody wants that with crime rampant. So this is where, again, the Berna gun comes in. The most popular model is the Berna S.D. There are different models. The Berna S.D. is the most popular model. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. and you can choose your color, your model, the projectiles, and the accessories, and it's always
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Starting point is 00:17:54 Like, how long is that what going on? I think most famous was during COVID, right, when the doctors and nurses did it? But it predated COVID. Oh, yeah, I'm sure it did. Why do people do it? The reason I ask this is because there's a video. As you know, over the weekend, the story came out where they said that Norway was denying the refueling of a U.S. nuclear sub. I'm like, well, forgive me, I don't know much about the nuclear power of a sub, but I would just think if it's a nuclear powered subcane. Probably doesn't take a lot of gas, just saying. Anyway. But I saw this.
Starting point is 00:18:38 This headline over the weekend and I looked into it because that was everywhere. Norway was denying the refueling of one of our subs and everyone was raging at Norway. And I don't think I've really had a bone to pick with Norway personally. Do we have to view everything in that lens either, by the way? But I saw this, this headline. It said Norway fuel giant refuses because at first the headlines were making it sound like Norway was turning our subs away. even Mike Lee, Senator Mike Lee had posted about this, said the Norwegian petroleum giant,
Starting point is 00:19:13 Hatback Bunkers has declared that it will no longer help the U.S. Navy. Mike Lee had tweeted about it. He said, good time to exit NATO. Now I want to stop there because I didn't know that that, again, checks notes, Haltback bunkers was particularly itself a party to NATO for Norway. But, you know, what do I know? I'm just a citizen. It's a tiny little company.
Starting point is 00:19:41 They have one employee, like one literally on the book's employee. In 2023, their net revenue was $1.4 million. They're not a big player. Let's put it like this. They're not a big player. But the way that it was presented is, and the dancing will all wrap up into it here shortly, the way that it was presented was that Norway,
Starting point is 00:20:05 was refusing to refuel. But it wasn't. It was this halt back bunkers, tiny little bidsy fueling company, not even a top player in Norway, much less the world. It was one company that said that they weren't going to do it after the dust up in the White House with Zelensky, etc. Well, I had retweeted it and I said, well, it's really important to note that this is a private company, not the Norwegian government because Mike Lee is usually pretty measured, but I felt that it was like a very dramatic drama kind of response. Are we not supposed to say that about Republicans because we're supposed to be hive mind even in their bad decisions? I don't subscribe to that view. So he'd say, good time to exit NATO. It's a, again, a tiny little bitty private company.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Norway was quick to act because apparently in order to be in the business that this company is in, you have to sign a contract where you agree to XYZ and them refusing to refuel a naval vessel for the U.S. That was considered a violation of that contract. So their actual defense minister got involved pretty quick and shut it down. Before the headlines were even around the world, they had it already remedied. But that didn't stop the amplification of this narrative that it was. Norway that did it. And it wasn't. I'm like, why are we trying to kick on Norway? They didn't
Starting point is 00:21:40 do any. It's like everybody blaming us for AOC. That's not fair. And she's like one little dinky person in Congress and she represents a tiny little bitty district. Hardly representative of the country. I think you would agree. So Norway's defense minister immediately got involved. They said not only did that violated contract, they had to refuel, but also they said that the U.S. naval vessels would have zero issue getting any and every supply that they needed. They put out an official
Starting point is 00:22:12 statement. I just think it's kind of funny to bring this up. This, because this video was what was being shared. People were so mad at Norway. Apparently, this is some of the Norwegian military doing, we can't play the music. Because I don't actually know
Starting point is 00:22:28 if that's the music that they were using. I read a thing where they were apparently dancing to like some Norwegian music. Is that true? I don't know. I don't care enough, actually, on this. But this was being played and everyone was going after Norway. Like, look at these guys.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And I guess trying to show that they are a lack of military preparedness as evidenced by the TikTok videos. This is why I'm like, why are we A, always doing TikTok videos? And B, why are we trying to say that a split second of video discredits, an ally because of something a private company did that they're through stupidity and misunderstandings and amplification of bad narratives the entire country of Norway is being blamed for. Wait, am I just supposed to go along with the video and be like, that's so bad, blah, our cucks. I don't know. Is that? Isn't that what the, you got to throw a cuck in there, right? Yeah. You know that meme of the soldier who's dropping a grenade down a stairwell?
Starting point is 00:23:32 that could just be the word cock and then it just immediately blows everything up. Kane wants me to stop saying it. Am I, but to the an aside from this if I can just touch on this video for a moment.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I'm just going to say I find it a little difficult to make fun of their military dancing in a TikTok video when literally just not even six months ago we had high ranking members that walked into the DOD guys with a Franken beans and a skirt with lipstick. So, you know, come on.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Glass houses everybody. Yeah, glass houses everybody. Let's, you stop. I know you're, I hear you, but this is dumb. Stop. We're not doing this. I'm not doing this. I have one other quick point and then I'm going to move on. And this is a major point because it, you're all right, Kane. It involves Lord of the Rings. Oh, I love how Kane has all the optimism in the world before we trot this out. it involves one of his favorite people. So, Kane likes Lord of the Rings, hates old people,
Starting point is 00:24:40 and loves Joy Reid. What? Because she said they're all mean. It's true. You can't trust them. That's what Kane says. I disagree. Joy Reid tweeted this.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Quote, We will never be a monarchy. No that. To quote the Lord of the Ring trilogy, Gondor has no king. Gondor needs no king. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:02 First off, the fact that she quoted at that. Tell me that you've never read the books, much less have seen the trilogy without telling me that you've never read the books or much less seen the trilogy. So she had put this out over the weekend. And I could not let this stand. I immediately had to get involved because this is a big issue. You can't sit here and misrepresent the Lord of the Rings this way. Gondor has no king. Gondor needs no king. She's quoted Fairmir, who is the brother of Boromir, who they're the sons of the dictatorial usurper who is there, the steward of the throne of Gondor.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And everybody knows he's the guy who yeated himself off of the top while he was on fire because he went nuts, right? He was crazy. But this was before Faramir saw the light. And Faramir had more discipline and strength of mind than Boromir did. Although Boromir in the end was redeemed, he gave his life. But Faramir recognized early on. He was saying Gondor has no king. Gondor needs no king. Kane, what is the third book called? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Oh, the return of the king. The return of the king. That sounds right. Yeah. And that's what she quotes. She quotes this. And it was from the two towers, by the way. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:26:32 So be specific if you're going to quote from the trilogy. It was from the two towers. And she was quoting Faramir. and Fairmir had that when they were arguing back and forth. Remember, this is before Fairmir had his awakening. Just completely obliterates it. I've never, ever have given Joy Reed any kind of, you know, peace of mind at all whatsoever, or really spent a lot of time on her. But this is something that shall not be tolerated. And the fact that she quotes the wrong side was insane. I thought she was going to, like, throw me out some orc quotes after that. One of the dumbest people,
Starting point is 00:27:08 alive and too stupid to be embarrassed about it. No wonder. No wonder. I mean that this and I don't know. I just I felt like and that was a course in response because you know going after Trump, etc. These people I think allow this TDS to take over all of the remaining space in their brain. So that's where the knowledge would go. We got to talk about this Pambandi thing. How many people are mad over Pam Bondi not giving up the full Epstein files. I feel like a lot are upset.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Here's the thing with the Epstein files. First off, well, we knew that they were going to be all redacted. I don't know how much can actually be if there is an ongoing investigation, but at the same time, I think, unless you're protecting a particular victim's
Starting point is 00:28:01 name, I think it's got to be made public. But Pam Bondi knew this and was saying that she had it and read it, and was had been reading it. Did she not? She had said prior that she had had these files and had been reading them that they were on her desk before they released these nothing burgers. And then I noticed that the people that they released them to were all on social media. Apparently some of them were copying and pasting the same response, much in the same way that Europe's leaders were doing. I stand with Ukraine. It was the same thing, just a different issue. I saw a lot of people
Starting point is 00:28:32 reposting the responses of, you know, we went there. Yes, we went. We got a binder. etc. If it had been about journalism, I think there would have been some actual due diligence in journalism that had been done by the individuals that got binders, but instead everyone wanted to get photos and share it on social media and then not really write much more about it. So that was bad. That was a big bad op. And I think the people that were involved in it should be a little embarrassed, honestly. The second thing is, why was she out there telling everybody that that she was reading it and had all this information if she clearly didn't have it? Apparently, then she went back and was
Starting point is 00:29:09 going after the FBI because she was sort of like it was like a bait and switch and then it seemed like Cash Patel and her were getting into an argument over this because she was promised the release of these other files and it ended up being like a bunch of nothing burger she said that more were being released but she sent out this letter
Starting point is 00:29:30 to Patel demanding the full release which again in all of this all of everything that she had ever said about it leading up to this point she I mean I got the impression cane that it was on her desk and she had read everything I mean she literally said that the files were on her desk but she had also said that she had been reading it so either someone stole it and tricked her or she lied I don't know she had said there will be no withholdings or limitations to my or your access etc etc but she blasted this out and now it looks like they're in, it's like a little bit of a TIF.
Starting point is 00:30:08 She says that agents coming out of New York, the Southern District of New York, were withholding these documents and that ultimately it comes from that Southern District and from the FBI up in New York. And apparently it was only what, not even 100 pages and it was all heavily redacted. And there was nothing new in there. It was basically a rehash of all of the stuff that was already made public. I just, I think that was a bad move to make. I don't think that that was an op necessarily designed by Trump's innermost circle, but someone clearly gave the go ahead for it. They were apparently at the White House for a totally different thing.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And then before Bondi can even make a statement about it, those binders were apparently handed out. I just wondered why there wasn't a statement from Bondi on it, why there wasn't anything from Patel on it. All of a sudden you had these people walking out, you know, parading this stuff, which left a bad taste in a lot of other, quote-unquote, I guess, influencers mouths. I don't know. I hate this whole thing. But we didn't learn anything else. And I saw some people out there saying promises kept, no, well, that wasn't. That hasn't been
Starting point is 00:31:19 fulfilled yet. That debt is still owed. But it just was a mess. It was a mess. It was a bad op. So I don't know who in the Trump administration orchestrated that, but they need to not ever be allowed to orchestrate anything regarding the media, anything again. Just get him away. Get him away from the White House. It was bad. But what is, are we going to have? It's more going to be released? I don't know. We'll come back to this because we've got to get moving. We also have days of these United States on the way. The folks who help bring you the program, it's our friends over a Patriot Mobile. The only Christian conservative cell phone service that is operating. And there's nobody else to go to. Some people might give lip service to it, but Radio America actually does. They don't spend your money on the things
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Starting point is 00:33:23 the world can't take it away. Very simple. Sing with us. destroyed that I have Oh my gosh The world can give it to me The world can't take it to me The world can't take it on the man
Starting point is 00:33:57 I don't know Is it a peat fest Why does the left do this honestly even if i which i'm not but even if i was leftist inclined i could never associate with these people they can't carry a tune in a bucket literally they had a bucket there that they could not carry a tune in not even making it up it was upside down and she couldn't even stay on beat what is that or he whoever that feller lady was i don't know but they always do this i remember when i was i got a so i was in college now you got to remember
Starting point is 00:34:30 remember I was raised Democrat. I didn't meet a Republican until I went to college. I'm not even exaggerating. People are, they think I'm an alien when I say that. I'm like, no, that really, I did not meet a Republican until I went to college. So, um, I remember they were having a protest. I was a college freshman and they were having a protest and they were, the hippies were out there playing hacky sack. It was like PCU with Jeremy Piven. And then they started, I don't know, it was like a circle and they it wasn't like chanting. I was like, oh, you guys are going to play Magic the Gathering? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:35:03 And they all got together and they were like singing and then they had this one white chick with dreadlocks and I have a whole other criticism for that. They were bad. It just looked like she had never, it didn't even look like dreadlocks. And she was the one in charge of percussion, could not keep a beat. And I just gradually like faded further and further into the periphery until you could no longer see me like Homer Simpson just melting into the shrubbery because it was so embarrassing. It was so cringe and they've never changed. They keep doing, I don't know if that ever was something
Starting point is 00:35:36 that attracted people to join the cause back in the day, but it like repels. It repelled me. It was, I just, I don't understand why they all do this. They all got to get together and they sing. All right, coming up. We got a lot more to discuss because I did watch like five seconds of the Oscars, but a couple interesting things. And the budget battle still happening, the latest. History shows gold and silver thrive under strong leadership. During President Trump's first term, gold surged 53 percent and silver soared 51 percent. With him back, could precious metals break new records in 2025 and beyond? In times of economic uncertainty, smart investors turn to assets that have proven their worth. Gold and silver have historically outperformed in volatile markets,
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Starting point is 00:37:28 Hmm. So we still have that, just by the way, we still have that, the budget battle that hasn't gone away. I know everyone's like, are we done with the battles yet? I know it hasn't really gone away. And it's something that we have to, that we're going to have to still fight because Republicans are worried about being blamed for a shutdown. They're just, they're so skittish. still to this day
Starting point is 00:37:54 over fighting these false narratives coming out from the left welcome back to the program by the way Dana Lash with you were at the top of this second hour and this is one of the
Starting point is 00:38:06 one of the it's not getting as much attention but it needs to it desperately needs to especially when you see that so many Republicans just aren't eager to
Starting point is 00:38:21 implement and do everything that's needed to be done as recommended by Doge. And otherwise, you know, I keep warning about this. And I, you know, I've had a couple of people say, to stop being so doom and gloom. I'm not being doom and gloom. Oh my gosh, Kane. How dare you speak on things that are happening? Am I supposed to delight at people?
Starting point is 00:38:44 I've actually had people that have been very upset with me saying that you're just doom and gloom. Actually, I'm not, if anything. but I really feel like you deserve to know what's happening with our tax dollars and our rate of spending. And like, for instance, if we have the CR, if we do the CR, you realize that this is just continuing the Biden levels of spending. Does everyone know what that means? That means that all of the spending objectives that Biden previously incorporated into these bills, or resolutions, that it's a continuation of that, like literally. Right now, Johnson wants, he wants a clean CR going through fall, September,
Starting point is 00:39:36 like towards the end of September. He wants a CR going towards the end of September. And really, there's no codification of any of the recommended do-do. cuts that he's that they're pushing to incorporate that and then guess what happens when we get to September and then it's time to put these cuts in guess what Kane they're not going to have the fight they're not oh we're going to wait till next time before we put those cuts in and then when the fight comes again Kane they're going to have to wait till next time to put those cuts in to implement this implement this because we have government funding in 11 days and they it's
Starting point is 00:40:21 really John Thun and Mike Johnson that have got to get this done. But they're going to have to peel off some Democrats to make it happen because they don't have a big enough. Do you see now why some of us were very, we're telling POTUS to stop picking from the house for his cabinet? Do you see it now? Do you see why? Because we wanted to be able to get going and run with us. So as it is right now, they're barely, they're barely scraping by. And they're going to have to pick off some Democrat voters to make this happen. I mean, that's, that's just the way that it is. I mean, 11 days, government funding expires. You know, they're going to run this down, you know, right down to the end of it. But without the permanence of any of the recommended cuts from Doge, I mean, this isn't a win. You're just kicking the
Starting point is 00:41:09 can down the road. You actually have to make cuts in order to have this happen. Otherwise, Trump's mandate is entirely compromised and we're not going to get anything done. To have a clean continuing resolution, and that's the language they like to say, that means that they're not going, whenever you hear that phrase, whenever you hear them say, oh, we're going to have a clean continuing resolution. They're continuing the current rate of spending as established by the previous administration, and they are not making permanent a single recommended cut from Doge, not one. Also not made permanent are the tax cuts. Hmm. That's the tax cuts. I mean, there's really only one way to do this.
Starting point is 00:41:50 you, you absolutely, they have to pass this or else. I mean, that's it. Trump's hands don't rest. His legacy doesn't rest in the actions of executive orders. His legacy rests in the hands of those people in Congress that are able or not able to implement everything that has been recommended and everything that was promised as it pertains to spending. I mean, this is just bad. Nothing about this is good. So he says he wants a clean CR.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Whenever you hear the clean CR, again, that's just a signal that they're going to be spending more, more and more. Literally, it's the continuing Biden structure. They're not serious about spending. And what gets me is that I think Trump is endorsing this. Trump is endorsing, implementing, and this is one of the things that Justin Amash had said,
Starting point is 00:42:50 is endorsing the CR all the way through September. And that goes to September 30th. So again, it means that the Biden levels of spending, all the Biden priorities are extended all the way through the end of September, through that fiscal year. So instead of having one of the things that was noted to is that it's going to be one giant spending bill where everything is thrown in instead of separating it up, into smaller bills that allows for a little bit more scrutiny and allows for more changes.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And Republicans have only so far kind of given, well, Republicans have only given lip service to Doge. All these Republicans, including your favorites that you've seen on Fox and going on and on and talking about this or that or going on this podcast, that podcast. Not a single one of them have done anything more than give lip service to the recommended cuts in wasteful spending. Not one. They're making excuses for it. We are literally going to get another full fiscal year of Biden spending. So you tell me if you think that that's, and I'm not, you can get mad at me. I'm not lying.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I'm not exaggerating it. That is the way of it. You are getting a full continued year of Biden's. spending. Trump only has four years. So for of those four fiscal years, for one of them, we're going to continue with the last administration. I just don't think they care about fixing it. And I know everyone is, I think, so happy that they won something, that they feel like they've won something. You have to make your wins count. We play Bernie Sanders. This is the, hang on, this is audio sound by 22.
Starting point is 00:44:55 This is, listen to how he's fearmongering here. Senator, very quickly, we are just 12 days away from a potential government shutdown. House Speaker, Mike Johnson says Democrats have a significant role to play to keep the government open. Some Democrats are saying they're not going to vote for a government spending bill that includes Elon Musk's cuts. Will you, will you vote for a bill to keep the government open if it includes those cuts? Well, we don't have a bill right now, but I will tell you this. Last I heard, the Republicans control the White House, the House, and the Senate. And I hope they present us with a budget that works for working people, not just for the billionaires.
Starting point is 00:45:35 See, they're going to try to fearmonger them and say, well, they want to shut this government down. They want to shut this, this is what they want to do. They want to take all this down. And that actually hasn't worked. Like the fearmongering doesn't actually work. it didn't work back in 2010 when Democrats really hammered at home and that's when Republicans held the line. You might remember that fight. Republicans held the line and they actually ended up taking a lot of seats in midterms because people looked at that as this party delivering on its
Starting point is 00:46:07 promises. But now with this, I don't know what they think. this is, they just don't care. I have to, I have to think that they, they simply don't care. They have no motivation and they don't have the stomach to make the sorts of proposals to limit spending that is, that's needed. We're getting a full year of Biden spending. That's, that's what it is. I mean, we could, one of the things that some lawmakers have suggested is that limiting expenditure to average annual revenue collected in the three prior years. That's actually not a bad idea. But there's just no effort.
Starting point is 00:46:58 And I have to say the president, he has a lot of leverage and he has a lot of power, but it is limited. And I'm not just talking about constitutional restraints. I mean, as we edge closer to 28, his influence will start to wane. Lawmakers will have less of a reason to listen to him after midterms. because he won't hold the lever as to whether or not they can help get elected. This is true with every elected leader, no matter their popularity. Once they term out, their ability, their coat tails, taking people across the threshold, so to speak, electorally, they shorten dramatically.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And this isn't any different. So this is why you say they've got, if they haven't done any of this by fall, they're never going to do it. And then this will have been one big optic for nothing. Just like the Epstein files were one big optic. I actually, the more I think about that, the matter I do get. You don't sit here and tell people that you've been reading the salacious stuff and that it's on your desk and then not produce. I will say I did warn people. I was, you know, I was saying that there was some things in some certain people's past at the DOJ that might make me hesitant to trust them.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Well, can't say I didn't warn you, I have to say. But this story with the cutting the spending, and I just, I don't know, audio sound by 19. This is Johnson saying Medicaid and Medicare cuts are off the table. But then he adds this, listen. I know you have been asked this before, Mr. Speaker, but I need to get you on the record here again, are cuts to Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security off the table.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Yes, and don't take my word for, Kristen. Go do a word search of the budget resolution that we passed on Tuesday. There is not one mention of Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security. It's not in the bill. Why don't they focus on those things? Why don't they focus on all the other spending? And first off, can we stop pretending like we have any money in Social Security? It's gone. They have rated that to pay for so many other things. It's a giant Ponzi scheme. It is. I've said this before and people have been outraged, but it's true. We've got to stop pretending that it's not insolvent. They've been raiding it forever. But it's, you can, you can, you can't really, how do you make a cut to something that is people, that's their money that they were forced to pay into? The government demanded a cut of your money and they said they were going to guard it for safekeeping. How would you cut that? You have people who paid into it their whole entire lives. You would have to give them a refund of everything that you've taken from them.
Starting point is 00:49:42 We have a lot more on the way, including, it was a nice little pro-family speech at the Oscars. I thought that Kieran and Kolkken was going to get Zappai Lightning for saying that in the hedonistic den of lawlessness and disorder that was the Dolby Theater, right? But I don't know. We'll talk about that and more here coming up as we move. None of this without the help of our partners, like Super Beats, the Super Boreen product. Now, there are Beats products out there. The only one that I trust is the Super Beats product because I know these people. I also know, and I don't say this like as an insult, but the nerds and the scientists and the doctors,
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Starting point is 00:51:28 I think it has to because you've got to outwit your kids at every step. It's war. I'm kidding. The experience of parenthood, they said it's both men and women, so it's not like one benefited more than the other. but they said that parents with more children, clearly, you know, greater social connectivity, etc. But they said that it increases brain connectivity in areas that typically decline with age. The suggestion is that parenthood provides a safeguard against brain aging.
Starting point is 00:52:01 That actually kind of does make sense if you think about it. British scientists decided that they were going to spend the time and money to create a banana that stays fresh for 24 hours. after opening. Why would you need it to, after you, you know, peel your banana, why do you need it to stay fresh for 24 hours? Who's like, you know what? I'm going to set this Nana down and I'm going to go do something else and then I might come back like, you know, 24 hours later. The British, they say that these experts have altered the fruits genetics so that it remains firm, fresh and yellow for 24 hours after opening even when sliced. The chief executive of the Norwich-based biotech company behind the breakthroughs said,
Starting point is 00:52:44 no more slimy brown bananas. Or here's a life hack. You could eat the damn thing after you open it. After you peel it, you could consume it. Life hack. Who are these people? You know what? Fruit browns.
Starting point is 00:52:56 It does. Like, why is that a thing for you? Just eat it. Just eat it. Shut up with your mouth and eat it. Like, what's a problem? Why is this a thing? Schools are reviving, yes.
Starting point is 00:53:06 They're reviving shop class as a hedge against the AI future. I think everybody should be required to take shop and home at in school. I think these boys and girls, shop and home at, although I did scare the complete living hell out of my shop teacher because I just didn't care. And I'm like, we're going to make all the things. And I loved power tools. And it scared not just the shop teacher, but every male in the class was terrified. Nobody wanted to be my partner. And it wasn't because I was a woman.
Starting point is 00:53:40 was because I have an over-eagerness with like drilling and things like that. So maybe I'm not the best candidate to represent that. And Microsoft has resolved global outages that left tens of thousands unable to access their emails and other apps. Coming up, my friend Nick Searsie on the passing of his dear friend, icon Gene Hackman, stick with us. What does living better mean to you? Is it more money, a bigger house? Now think about this. What about how you feel physically every day? Life is so much better when you feel good. When you wake up feeling great, you can do more of the things that you love and you're ready to take on the day. If pain is affecting your life, see how relief factor can help change that. Relief factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain
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Starting point is 00:55:13 I watched some of the Oscars last night, for those of you rejoining, bottom of the second hour, Dana Lash with you. I don't normally do it, but I started watching the Oscars because my friend, the late Andrew Breitbart who passed away
Starting point is 00:55:26 March 1st, always watched the Oscars. And he said, if you want to watch it, even if you want to watch the fashions, don't feel ashamed. You've got to tune into this. He's like,
Starting point is 00:55:34 you have to pay attention as to what people are creating. He was always correct about it. So I didn't feel a lot of shit. shame in watching it. And I was thinking about all of this. You know, they do the, the, in memoriam. And we had also just lost Gene Hackman, which I don't know why, but that kind of surprised me. He's one of those actors that hasn't ever changed in front of my eyes. Like, growing up, he was a certain age. When I became a young adult, he was still that same age. And it's just, it's just weird to think of him. He's such a titan of acting. He's been in
Starting point is 00:56:04 everything I think I've ever seen. I, I mean, the first movie I saw, the first movie I saw, he was. saw of his actually, I was at my aunt's house and it was the French connection. And I read an interview that Gene Hackman gave where he really didn't like the character that he was playing, but he wanted to do it because those people exist and you need to be able to play those type of characters to show people kind of the range of humanity. And it was just really smart. He starred in so many films. He also starred in a number of films with our guest and our good friend and his friend, Nick Searcy. You know him from Justified. You know him from a ton of different. movies. He's a Peabody Award winner and some of my favorite characters. I think in that similar
Starting point is 00:56:45 vein, Nick, first of all, welcome to the program. I think you have that ability to tap into that, for the lack of a better way to put it, this reservoir of human knowledge where these certain types of characters exist and you have to play them unapologetically. And you also do that. Hackman did it and you do it as well because you've played a really interesting range of characters in your career. And you said you were inspired to do this because of Gene Hackman. Talk to me about your experience with that because I love hearing this about you. Yeah, when I was growing up, you know, I was doing theater and I wanted to, I loved film and I wanted to get into it. And when I first saw Gene Hackman, I thought, well, he's not that good looking.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I could probably do this. And so he was really my inspiration. And, of course, watching him work over the years. I mean, he's done some of the greatest roles, Prince Connection, you know, a movie that I love that very few people have seen is a movie called Twice in a Lifetime that he did with Anne Margaret, which I just thought was a terrific, terrific movie about divorce and the aftermath and all that. But I got the chance to do one movie with Gene.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I got to meet him on runaway jury, and it was really a dream come true. I was so in awe of him for the first few days. I worked with him for about two weeks, and I was so in all of him for the first two days. I really couldn't even speak to him. I couldn't even look at him. And finally, it got so awkward that Gene actually broke the ice and started talking to me. Wow. Just so gracious, just such a wonderful man.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And I have many, many funny stories about. Gene, even in that short two weeks, I was with him. I read one of them where you guys had to do a scene where he was supposed to launch a trash can at you. And he was asking you, okay, so we don't want to hurt Nick in this. So we got to figure out, Nick, which way are you going to dodge? You're going to go right or left. You're like, I'm going to go left.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And he did kind of, he did ping you with a trash can. And then he turned, apparently he'd made a bet over it and tell me, this is hysterical. Because I just, I love hearing this aspect of this guy that we don't know from people who worked with him. Yeah, the director's like, you know, I want, I want Gene's character to kick this trash hand at you. He was frustrated with me. And the director said, well, let's not hit Nick with it.
Starting point is 00:59:07 You know, which way are you going to? And Gene goes, okay, which where are you going to go, Nick? And I said, I'll duck that way. And so when Gene kicked it, he kicked it so that it hit me when I duck that way. He turned to the fellow next to him and said, okay, 10 bucks. Yeah, 10 bucks. He got it. It hit me.
Starting point is 00:59:24 We're talking with our friend Nick seriously. But my favorite story about Gene, my favorite story about Gene is like, Like he had his own hair person in the makeup trailer. And she was very nice. And one day I got there earlier than Jean. And she said, you want me to do your hair like I do jeans? I go, sure. And because, you know, back then I had a little bit of hair.
Starting point is 00:59:41 And she was just coloring it in. And so I'm sitting in Jean's chair with Jean's makeup person. And Gene walks into the makeup trailer. And I jump up and I go, I'm sorry, Gene. I'm sorry. He goes, you're doing hair. Why? You don't have any.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I have some, Gene. I've got some air. This is, because he left Hollywood after a while, went to New Mexico. I were talking about the passing of Gene Hagman, age 95, and his wife and dog. He was just, I guess, just felt, you know, he had accomplished what he wanted to accomplish and was done with Hollywood. I think, and this is just my conjecture, you know, I don't really know. Dean and I weren't like, we didn't call each other on the phone or anything.
Starting point is 01:00:28 But I think that, you know, runaway jury is one of his last, if not his last movie. And by then I think he was kind of, it wasn't as much fun for him as it used to be because I think it was harder for him. He, I think at a certain point as an actor, and I'm kind of reaching this point too, it's like it becomes more difficult to do. The hearing goes. You know, your mind isn't quite as sharp as it used to be. and I think Gene was the type of person that if he couldn't do it at the level that he'd been doing it, it wasn't going to be satisfying for him.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And he had other things that he wanted to do. He was a painter and a writer. And I think he just sort of said, I've got enough. This is not as meaningful to me as it used to be. Who do you see, Nick, coming up in Hollywood now that can do these types of roles? Because I feel like not,
Starting point is 01:01:25 And I definitely absolutely put you in this category because you have the ability. I mean, you've played characters that are lovable. You've played characters that are authoritative. But you, you as the viewer, really support and you cheer those characters. You play characters that people absolutely have hated and you've played them so well. People had difficulty separating you from the character. Who's like that that you see? Yeah, I've played a lot of Democrats here and there.
Starting point is 01:01:51 You know, I'm not sure. I mean, I think Philip Seymour Hoffman was in that category, but of course he's gone. I'm not sure there is going to be anybody like Gene. I mean, he had such a long and storied career, so many things. I mean, 40 or 50 years at the very top of the business. Yeah. And that is so difficult to do. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I'm not sure if we have anybody that is such an. unconventional leading man. You know, we have the Brad Pitts and we have the Leonardo DiCaprio's and those types of guys. But Gene Hackman was a really unique sort of every man guy. And I don't know that we have that except for maybe me. Except for me. And I actually agree with you on that. I'm not just saying that.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Because I really do believe that you are like that. That's when you were saying you got, you were so inspired by Hackman. I realized he, that's right. He is. And this all makes so much sense. when I look at your body of work and how you approach things as well. Do you do what he did? Do you, like when you're on set and this, I don't think I've ever asked you this.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Do you get into your character where you just, you want to stay in your character? I guess it's like somewhat like method acting and you don't kind of talk to people on set because you're in character and then when it's over, everybody's best friends? Not really. I don't do it that way. You know, sometimes, I guess, depending on the character. But very rarely am I like that. No, it's more like, it's more like a.
Starting point is 01:03:20 switch for me. You know, I tend to work from kind of imaginary circumstances rather than that idea of using your own pain and your emotions to to, you know, I try to imagine myself as a character. So when, you know, it's like walking off stage, you just go, let me get a drink of water.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Interesting. We're talking with our good friend Nick Searcy and you of course can find him Capital PunishmentTheMovie.com, which is out, which you're still, for someone who is as outspoken as you And I'm, and I'm sure we don't know, obviously, everything that you deal with. You've been able to still carve out a very, and maintain your space in a very successful position doing very good films in Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:04:06 And I really do think that you're the exception because of your acting and your body of work. You're like insulated because you know how some people have what we would say is FU money. You kind of have an FU body of work. so to speak. Do you agree with that? Do you think that that's kind of why? Well, I have an FU attitude without the money. Well, that goes without saying. Right. You know, I have been very fortunate. I mean, a lot of the people that I've worked with over the years, they, you know, they knew my political, you know, beliefs or whatever. But they also knew me as a person. So, you know, they knew my work. And so they knew what I was going to deliver if I came there.
Starting point is 01:04:48 So I think I've been very fortunate in that way. It may be catching up to me now. I don't know. Because things have gotten so much more polarized in the last few years, you know, and especially if you're in Hollywood and you dare to say out loud that you support President Trump. I mean, people are going to lose their minds. So, you know, but I'm still continuing to work. I have a couple of things in the hopper.
Starting point is 01:05:15 And, yeah, I've been very fortunate. and I really don't know why. Maybe I'm not a big enough star for them to really pay attention to what I say. It's not like my name on the poster. They don't want to get told. I think they don't want Nick Searcy to tell him off. I mean, they look online. They're like, we don't want that.
Starting point is 01:05:31 So just let him go. We're talking with our friend Nick Searcy. To that extent, I wanted to get your thoughts on what transpired Friday in the Oval Office with Zelensky sitting there with Vance and Trump. Because I may be wrong about this, but my point. perspective is. A lot of people saw that. And maybe some of the most hardcore critics of Trump were like, Wow, Zelensky did not avail himself. He did not come off looking nice. And they actually seem sympathetic towards Trump, which really shocked me, some of the people expressing that. I wanted to get your take,
Starting point is 01:06:05 because I know you were watching it and you were talking about it as well. Yeah. I mean, you know, for 40 minutes, Trump was as cordial as he could be. I think everybody thought they had a deal. And Zelensky, you know, had agreed to this deal and then suddenly he started his nonsense. And I was like, I was glad. I mean, it's like we are now seeing who Zelensky really is and what he really wants. Because I think what I took away from that meeting was that this guy doesn't want peace. He wants the war to continue because that's where his power comes from. That's where his money comes from.
Starting point is 01:06:40 He's suspended elections because they're at wartime now. So what if he, if the war ends, he could lose everything. Everything and everything he's done could be revealed. I mean, the stuff that J.D. Vant said to him about him conscripting people off the street and forcing them into the battle is, that's a serious war crime. I mean, that's bad stuff. So I think if the war ends, he's very vulnerable. He seemed like a bad diplomat.
Starting point is 01:07:08 It doesn't seem like you go into a median like that. I just felt, because I watched the whole thing. I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I just got the sense that he was antagonistic, Nick, the entire time. Like his body language, when he went in there, he was there for a brawl. And it really was weird to me because like you, I was like the deal was done. What is he doing? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:29 I think he blew up the deal on purpose. I think he was counseled by Democrats like Chris Murphy and the people that met with him beforehand. I think they counseled him to do that. They encouraged him to blow it up simply because they wanted something to use on Trump. And that's how sinister all of this is. I mean, the Democrat opposition to Trump is just about Trump. And I believe that all the support that you see these people marching in the streets and Slava, Ukraine, I mean, I don't think they care about Ukraine. I don't think they care about Zelensky.
Starting point is 01:08:02 They just hate Trump. Yeah, that's a good point. And they want anything they can get to use against them. They didn't say, they didn't bring up any concerns under Obama Biden when we had first Crimea was the annex. They didn't say anything about that. They didn't say anything about the Russian reset button with Hillary Clinton. They didn't say anything about any of that. They were silent as church mice, not a peep.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Nothing. Absolutely. Yeah. And I think part of it is, you know, there were kickbacks. And we're going to find that out. Eventually, there were kickbacks. And the money that was flowing into Ukraine, some of it was flowing back to Hunter and the big guy. I feel like this is going to make a spectacular movie one day.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And that you probably need to be in it because you're like one of the few actors, I think, who could pull off some of these characters. that really need that, Ed. I really feel like that needs to happen. Our good friend Nick Searcy, make sure you check out Capital Punishment, the movie, which honestly should be like a college course at this point, really. I really do.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Also, Dana, there's a sequel to it. It's a four-hour miniseries called The War on Truth, which is a sequel to Capital Punishment, and it carries forward the stories of what the government has actually done to these January 6 people and how they've really intentionally tried to ruin their lives. to send a message to the rest of the country, don't ever oppose us or we'll do this to you. So you can find the war on truth at His Glory TV. His Glory.com.
Starting point is 01:09:24 And it's free. Our good friend, Nick, Siracy. Nick, condolences on the loss of, you know, your friend and, you know, your colleague in the film industry. We're grateful that we had him or we're grateful that we've got you. So thank you so much. Well, appreciate it. Thank you, Dana. Too kind.
Starting point is 01:09:41 No, never kind enough. Nick Searcy. Always good to see you, my friend. God bless. Our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends at all family pharmacy. An excellent, excellent website. And for all of your medicinal needs, you need to seriously consider all family pharmacy. They have over 200 essential medications. In addition to ivermectin and a whole bunch of other treatments as well, everything is made in the U.S. of A. So you're not getting anything that's coming from China. You've heard all of these horror stories about how so many antibiotics are. are made in China or made in India or Mexico with Chinese inputs. And that's not what this is. This is all made in the USA.
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Starting point is 01:11:19 So this is a fire chief, Newberry fire chief, who had to resign. This is in Florida. Florida fire chief had to resign. He was arrested on DUI charges. Apparently, according to WCJB, while driving an organ transport truck with, like, organs. minute. He was in a pickup truck with LifeQuest that I feel well now that was C Quest I was thinking of the old NBC series. LifeQuest an organ and tissue storage company printed on the side when he
Starting point is 01:11:56 arrived at the hospital the Florida man Mike Vogel he apparently smelled of alcohol was slurring in his speech stumbling while walking officers found four empty and five oh yeah he totally looks at five full mini vodka bottles in the bushes. near a vehicle. If you, if I asked AI, show me a picture of a guy who would drive drunk while drive an organ transport vehicle while drunk, I'd be like, that's him.
Starting point is 01:12:24 He pled not guilty. He bonded out on Sunday. So they have an investigation ongoing. But yeah, that's how many was it? Four empty and five full mini vodka. That's four empty mini vodka bottles. That's like Kane, how many like
Starting point is 01:12:39 shots is in? Oh, I think isn't one of those airplane bottles like two shots or something. Oh my gosh. So he's got eight shots and ten to go? I'm a lightweight. So if I have like a, like if I do maybe every now and then if I'm on a plan, I might do a Bloody Mary, but I can only do a little bit of one of them little bitty bottles. I can't, I can't even imagine how that I, what, what is he's like a sponge,
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Starting point is 01:14:17 What did you send me in slack, Kane? That's not how we start this hour. That's how we're starting the show. Top of this third hour. Kane just, he does these sneaky little things where he dropped something in slack, knowing else right when we're going to air. And I'm like, I'm looking at this. I don't even know how to process it to tell you guys about it.
Starting point is 01:14:34 It's some tranny stuff. I don't know. Sorry, trans stuff. I don't know. Whatever. Welcome back. Dana Lash, top of the third hour. we were talking on break about the Oscars.
Starting point is 01:14:43 No, don't roll your eyes. Stop it. If you don't pay attention to culture, culture still pays attention to you. I used to watch for the fashions. Now I can't even watch that anymore. People bleaching their eyebrows off their faces. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:14:54 It's just bad. It doesn't look good. Nobody looks good with that look. It doesn't even look edgy. It just looks like, wow, why is your brow like that? What's up? So I don't think I saw a single film that was nominated for Best Film. Did you?
Starting point is 01:15:12 These are films that you used to see all like, I mean, they used to have actual good movies. Like, um, like, Forrest Gump, right? Uh, Silence of the Lambs. Uh, what else? Unforgiven. These were all nominees from Best Picture at one point. Uh, Shakespeare in Love. And now you've got, um, well, I don't even know what the hell some of these movies are.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Was the Academy Award for Best Picture? Who won't even, I don't even know who was it, Nora? I don't even know what Anora is about. No one saw this. It's a strip club Cinderella story. So you have the Brutalist. Oh, shut up. So it's like, what was it, Julia Roberts thing?
Starting point is 01:15:59 So you have the Brutalist. Adrian Brody won. The best picture was In Nora. I still don't even know what that. It was about a stripper, you said? Yeah, it's described as a strip club Cinderella story. So someone... Juan is just chuckling over there in the corner and the dark.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Lost their bra and they're finding which bra fit the right person. Did you see it? No. I know it's streaming, but I didn't... I just didn't see it. So the best picture... So that one best picture. That one, it was what?
Starting point is 01:16:36 The... Was conclave, wicked? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can't do this. can we just stop full stop and have a moment here now granted i hate musicals to death to actual physical death hate them you know why because it doesn't make sense i i am too much of a cynic to sit and think these people just broke into song and it makes sense like no one does this in the
Starting point is 01:17:07 real in real life if i'm if i'm going to have like a fancy to see film about something. It's not going to involve music. It's going to involve like aliens and stuff, you know, and like guns that don't even exist in the real world. It's going to involve those things, right? I like that kind of adventure kind of fantasy sort of thing. Not going to be that. I don't know. I don't get it. Wicked was, it was a musical that was nominated for an Oscar. And it's a prequel to Wizard of Oz and the Witches and that. It's like a novelty. If you liked it, more power to you, I just didn't get it. And then you have Amelia Perez. So let's talk about a couple of things here. Number one, we all are in agreement that we miss Joan Rivers.
Starting point is 01:17:57 because Joan Rivers served a purpose in that she was able to just grind everyone to dust with her commentary on these awards things. It is just weird. I don't. So Amelia Perez had that dude that was a chick that pretended to be a chick and he ended up getting canceled because he wasn't the right kind of trans. I don't even know what that means. Can you cancel a trans person? Explain to me the math here.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Because we were talking about this. Like everybody really wanted you to know that that. that one chick from Wicked was bald, gay, and black, like all three, like BBG, right? You've got to be like black bald and gay. Like she's better than just a regular lesbian because she checks off more boxes. It's like whoever has the most baggage is the queen of intersectional or the monarch of intersectional politics, right? Oh, you're just a regular lesbian.
Starting point is 01:18:49 You're lame. You've got to be like bald and a lesbian or trans whatever a lesbian or I. I don't know. Just something with ethnicity. To be, like, if you're just a white lesbian, you're just like white bread. Nobody cares. So you have to be all these other things. And I got really tired of hearing that in this whole lead up to award season because people
Starting point is 01:19:11 were acting like that was this chick's qualifications. Is she a good actress? Well, she's a lesbian. And bald. Like, before you object. I think Jada did it first. Anyway. So I just,
Starting point is 01:19:29 nobody watches these out of all of the movies that were on the leaderboard I didn't I didn't see any of those I think I did see conclave and the ending of that I just sat there like are you kidding me is a hermaphrodite are you kidding me that was my did I give it I don't care did you watch it Kane the conclave thing I liked all those actors and I thought maybe they'll pull this off maybe it's spooky I don't know it wasn't it like ended with like some sad hermaphrodite and I just was like this is lame it was such a letdown you know I was hoping it would be like an alien or something and see you see
Starting point is 01:20:04 where my mind goes I'm like if that dude isn't an alien then that I don't know I just I didn't watch any nobody watches this stuff anymore these movies no one goes and sees the movies that are like in the running for best picture none of them now I mean whereas
Starting point is 01:20:18 you're good stories and everyone would go and see them now they're not even good stories I mean and also how many times you're going to do like the stripper makes good storyline. And that chick beat Demi Moore. Now, I didn't see Demi Moore's substance. I have a lot of friends who did, and they said it was terrifying. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:39 I guess it's terrifying if you're scared of aging. I don't know. But she apparently got a lot of accolades for that role. And then this is probably the only time she's ever going to get nominated for an Oscar. And she got beat by some 25-year-old chick who played a stripper. And do they, isn't it other members of the Academy that vote on this? So it's like, your peers. It's like, it's essentially a jury of your peers that vote on all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:21:01 So they gave it to the 25 year old stripper. Does that shock anybody that Hollywood would go for the chick who bared it all as opposed to the older lady who played the, right? I don't know. I'm just saying. I just, I don't. Can we play Karen Kulkin's remarks? Now, we got to do it in a weird way for you watching. We have to show you a screen grab and then play the audio separately so we don't get deemed for copyright or even though it's, you know, this is literally fair use, but whatever. I thought this was like one of the most wholesome moments of the evening. This is
Starting point is 01:21:33 McColley Colkin's little brother, Karen Culkin, who won Best Supporting Actor for one of the series he was in. Watch this. This is his acceptance. I love you, Jess. This is, I have to thank my wife Jess for absolutely everything for giving my favorite people in the world. This is, please don't play the music because I want to tell a really quick story
Starting point is 01:21:49 about jazz. About a year ago, I was on a stage like this, and I very stupidly publicly said that I want a third kid from her because she said if I won the award, I would, she would give me the kid. It turns out she said that because she didn't think I was going to win. But, and people came up to her and were like, you know, really annoying her. I think it got to her.
Starting point is 01:22:09 But anyway, after the show, we're walking through a parking lot. She's holding the, Emmy. We were trying to find our car. Emily, you were there, so you're a witness. And she goes, oh, God, I did say that. I guess I owe you a third kid. And I turned to her and I said, really, I want four. And she turned to me, I swear to God this happened, it was just over a year ago.
Starting point is 01:22:26 She said, I will give you four when you win an Oscar. I held my hand out. She shook it, and I have not brought it up once until just now. You remember that, honey? You do? Okay. Then I just have this to say to you, Jazz. Love of my life, ye of little faith.
Starting point is 01:22:46 No pressure. I love you. I'm really sorry I did this again. And let's get cracking on those kids. What do you say? It was a great, that was a great moment. And everybody was laughing, and he was just very genuine. and it was a very funny moment.
Starting point is 01:23:03 And let's get cracking on those kids, four kids. So that was sweet. There wasn't as many, I mean, there were some politicized moments. You had some guy come out and talk about Gaza. And then you had, what's her face? One of the Arquettes, was it an Arquette who came out? No, it was Daryl Hannah, who looks like an Arquette. Daryl Hannah came out and said Slava, Ukraine or whatever.
Starting point is 01:23:28 And every went, because that's the new COVID. I mask up. Wait, wrong thing. Wear the flag. They can't. They're all confused. Maybe if you wear the face masks that are the flags, it'll work. You'll check both boxes. But yeah, I didn't, I just, I am bored to tears by everything that's in Hollywood lately. That's why I watch anime and foreign horror films. Because they can't, like, the horror films here in the U.S. even have to be politically correct. It's ridiculous. Now, a couple of other things to get into. Did you hear this? Honda is going to start producing the next civic in Indiana, not in Mexico, due to tariffs. Due to tariffs. Interesting, is it not? So this came out, pulling the story up.
Starting point is 01:24:22 I had to get around all the ANORA stuff. So this came up actually just was over the weekend that this was a, announced. So they're moving production. They're, well, they're going to save more by having an American workforce and not having the tariffs. Reuters has the story, though. But I would
Starting point is 01:24:42 imagine that this is not going to be the first or last time that we see something like this. They're building it. They said they're scurting tariffs. The production they said in Indiana is going to see about 210,000 civics a year.
Starting point is 01:24:58 So that's a pretty big that's a pretty big number. The production has been pushed to May 28 from November 2027 to avoid, and I think it's going to be more than just civics, but I think civics are going to, that's going to be the biggest, I guess, model. And they said that's all to avoid the 25% tariff on all of the taxes and all of that stuff. So interesting. One of the things that I'm not going to have time to dive into it too much today, but we're going to talk about it this week.
Starting point is 01:25:29 is this story of what they're doing in Texas. I don't know if you've heard a lot about this, I don't know, it's like this, this THC fight. So Texas is considering banning THC, and which is, I guess, Kane, it's like in a lot of gummies. I have a friend who has a company where they make this,
Starting point is 01:25:56 and a lot of veterans use it, especially veterans that they were trying to do, and I'm not going to say this right, the psilocybin. Yeah, no, that's right. That's all right. It's a lot of consonants in that. It's like people aren't getting high on shrooms. They're dealing, like combat trips are trying to find non-opioid ways to deal with PTSD.
Starting point is 01:26:20 And this is one of them and a lot of them use these products that have like CBD and THC in them to help with PTSD. and apparently in Texas they're considering putting a ban on everything. Are we now back to the government telling you that, again, the same government that locked everybody down for COVID, even in Texas, and was arresting people for trying to make a living in Texas,
Starting point is 01:26:42 the same government's now going to be like, we're going to start banning things, the same one that was promoting vaccines. Oh, sorry, injections. This is something we're going to be talking about this week. I know we've got to get moving right now because we've got headlines on the way. And then our friend Stephen Yates, oh boy.
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Starting point is 01:28:12 This is a very weird headline. A blind Canadian man has his own tooth surgically planted in his eye to restore sight. His eye tooth? His, did you say eye tooth? Yeah, that's, I don't, I don't know. It's a tooth in eye surgery. It sounds weird.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Apparently, this is a procedure that they've used in other parts of the world. It's a rare operation. Even if you're an eye surgeon, said this ophthalmologist, they say that the procedure, which I'm not even going to pronounce,
Starting point is 01:28:48 and it's about 30 words long, uses their own tooth to craft a support structure for an artificial cornea. The operation is done in two parts. You have, and that ends up with, you have a, basically your tooth is about there for like three months. And then it creates this like structure for them to put in a plastic optical lens to kind of shorten it down. So very, I never would have thought of that.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Who was like, let's put your tooth in here? I mean, you know, good on medicine, you know. A train struck a vehicle of an alleged impaired driver after. this is WSBT, after the girlfriend apparently exposed herself. What? A crash and arrest. It was on a set of railroad tracks. The guy made it out safely from his car before it was hit by Norfolk's Southern
Starting point is 01:29:36 Train and Leport. It was 2 a.m. He's going to his girlfriend's house to watch the Super Bowl after watching the Super Bowl. And he was distracted because she was, he was on FaceTime. So I think, okay, first off, this is just stop it. He was on FaceTime with her. And she was being inappropriate.
Starting point is 01:29:57 And it distracted him, and that's ended up what happening. So was it her that was distracting him, or should he not have been on FaceTime while driving in the first place? He also did have a blood alcohol of 2.73. Or sorry, 0.273. Sorry. Yeah. Still, that's, mm-hmm. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Oh, an Alabama woman was arrested in Arkansas after she tried to sell a baby. Bye-bye baby is not. not a literal thing. 20-year-old Amber Booth is accused of accepting compensation for a Class C felony. She was trying to sell her baby for clothes and cash. Oh, man. The sister-in-law said she had the baby in November of last year and was trying to sell them. Sad.
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Starting point is 01:31:54 Formative news companion for those always on the move. Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash here with you, at the bottom of this third hour. And I know here, I almost said second. I almost said second. We've been talking about a lot of stuff. And we're going to get into that all of, we're going to follow up all the latest because I've got the Texas bill. We've got the budget.
Starting point is 01:32:22 We also have the fallout, continued fallout of everything. that was happening Friday with POTUS and Zelensky and the VP. And then I saw this interesting thing. Most Europeans, it's two surveys. They're both from the Guardian. Most Europeans feel Ukraine's not getting enough Western support. And then, but only a minority think their own country should actually increase support. That doesn't seem to work.
Starting point is 01:32:51 On this and many other issues, we go to our good friend, Stephen Yates, who is. served in not one but two previous presidential administrations discussing foreign policy with a specific focus on China. And of course, he's a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. He joins us now. Mr. Yates, always good to see you. I have been waiting all weekend to ask you your thoughts as to what transpired in the Oval Office on Friday, sir. Well, it is needless to say, breathtaking to watch someone basically make all the world's leaders have to come to them and then basically for three full years just allow helium to inflate their heads so much that you wear what you choose to wear, you say what you choose to say.
Starting point is 01:33:38 And no matter what you say or do, people just hold you up on a pedestal and treat you like a hero. And then all of a sudden after three years, this war is not getting better. You're not taking more of your territory back. You don't have more population or more armaments. And you want to come and ask for more help. And yet you still have this air about you that you're the man, you're Superman. And somehow everyone is just going to let you do your performance art and all will work out. And so you have the vice president of the United States, the secretary.
Starting point is 01:34:20 of state, the secretary of treasury, all working on this minerals agreement, which sounds boring. Maybe it is, but it was the biggest blessing Ukraine could have had by way of assurances for the United States. And Zelensky insists on not just stiffing all of them, you know, it's go all the way to Washington, waste the first 40 minutes of an Oval Office meeting, and then just let loose as the worst skunk at a garden party there ever was in the Oval Office. I literally have never seen someone self-immolate like this, making his own delegation blanche and border on tears during and immediately after the exchange. And then, worse than all of them, you've got the American left that just wants to go Slava Ukraine. Like, wait a minute. So you're for unlimited, untransparent money going over there, but we didn't have enough money for a wall.
Starting point is 01:35:19 You're for this person just coming in, wearing whatever. And people can say it doesn't, it doesn't, not a big deal, what have you. Elon Musk wears a hat. Well, when you're a gazillion, billion, trillionaire, whatever he is. He's not asking for money. And you're slashing waste fraud and abuse. You can wear a clown suit if you want as far as I'm concerned. But when you come in begging for money, I was always told you better look the part, use your manners words.
Starting point is 01:35:48 and express gratitude when things are worked out. So the whole thing just blew my mind. The only thing that makes sense to me is that he intentionally blew it up. And I don't know who advised him of that. I don't know if it was Senate Dems. I don't know if it was the sort of leftist Euro trash that thought this was going to be good for them. But I don't see any good coming from this if I'm European or Ukraine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:17 And the only thing I'd say spike at the end is I am so sick to death of people talking about Europe as if there are only allies. So this is how you treat an ally. This is how you treat someone in need. We had our ally Israel come to the Oval Office. Perfect example of how to have a meeting. Right. We had our ally Japan come to the Oval Office. Perfect example of how to have a meeting.
Starting point is 01:36:40 So this has nothing to do with how we treat allies or how Trump treats allies. Those were beautiful meetings, as Trump might say. This was Zelensky. And it turns out this guy isn't smart, isn't strong, and sounds like even Lindsay Graham's lost his taste for this guy remaining leader of Ukraine. I don't know. I was blown away. I mean, when you bring that up, talking with our good friend, Stephen Yates, at Yates Coms on X, when you mentioned Lindsay Graham. When you lose Lindsey Graham, that's when my jaw dropped.
Starting point is 01:37:11 I mean, I was shocked that all of this played out the way that it did. and Zelinsky. I mean, I watched all the, I mean, he just, he was just super antagonistic the whole time. And I felt like he was trying to subtly land some jabs here and there. And I also got the impression, too, there's the story that, um, a flashback story that came out over the weekend that recalled when apparently he and Joe Biden had a heated exchange of words at which Biden said, you know, you ought to be a little bit grateful. So it sounds like this guy has been able just like to be let loose and run roughshod over. the last administration. And I get the sense that he thought he would be able to continue this.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Did you get that? Did you get that sense? Yeah, although that is a dramatic misreading of the room. I don't know how anyone could be so blind. He's not a diplomat. All of Trump's first term and the things that he campaigned on and talked about, all of his entire campaign coming back into the White House, forget the fact that he won the popular vote. this wasn't a hidden campaign issue. This was a central campaign issue. It really was one of those binary choices. If you wanted to continue to basically butter his bread and let this fight go on forever,
Starting point is 01:38:28 then you vote Biden Harris. Yeah. And if you're sick of unlimited money with no rational end state and you want forever wars to stop and you want Europe to pay their fair share and grow up and take care of their neighborhood, then you vote Trump vance. It wasn't complicated. And we won the majority on that worldview. And, you know, there's even some parts of Europe, even some parts of Ukraine that are probably going, you know, what in the world are we doing?
Starting point is 01:39:00 This guy is not a warrior. He's an actor. And this isn't working for us at this point. He wants to go and basically spit in the face of Donald Trump, not so. someone to pick a fight lightly with. And then you want to dance over to Europe as if Europe's going to pick up what's left behind. If that was going to work, the last three years would have been a cakewalk. Right.
Starting point is 01:39:24 So I don't get it. I'm just not smart enough to see this big one world magic that they plan to play out. Were you impressed by the orchestration of shared talking points from all of these European Union leaders? They didn't even bother changing up their wording. No, this is basically the descendant of Michelle Obama's hashtag diplomacy. It has the exact same effect. I mean, it's all, that was the beginning of global online virtue signaling, masquerading for actually doing grown-up work. And it's all the Europeans are doing.
Starting point is 01:40:02 And that's kind of what you were alluding to. Well, yeah, more, more, more, just not more from us. Yeah, not more. Which is the perfect, spoiled brat attitude you expect from the global left. How much? I wanted it, not to interrupt you, but you mentioned, too, that, you know, he's a, you know, Zelensky's just a comedian. You know, he's, he's a showman. You know, Trump did that as a consequence of being a business person. He just looks like, here's a sort of a side thing that I can do while I'm running businesses, where Zelensky doesn't have that. How much of the, of the, of the current state, the problems with the current state that they're in, how much is that can you attribute to Zelensky actually not having any kind of. diplomatic background and sort of, is he just a patsy? Like, I'm trying to understand this guy. I just, number one, in the first part of the war, I honestly was impressed with how the Ukrainians stood up. And I thought that, you know, there is a role for a showman in trying to rally your
Starting point is 01:41:03 people and speak strategically and all of that. In the early stages, I might have given some props for being able to stand up against what seemed like insurmountable odds. But over time, that wears off. And at some point, you know, you also, I think he just got too used to being able to speak and assuming everyone's just listening to every word he says. And the only response anyone really had had for years was adoration. He hasn't faced criticism. It's, I think, literally illegal to criticize him at home.
Starting point is 01:41:35 And so internationally, it's all sort of kid gloves and hero worship. And that's really worship by proxy through him to the Ukrainian people. But I think he's taken it personally. And so he has no experience. It's sort of like a coddled athlete that has gone through rounds and rounds of practice and pressing the coaches, but hasn't had full contact on the field. All of a sudden, you get zapped one time on the first play. and it's like, wait a minute, that wasn't fair.
Starting point is 01:42:07 And everyone's coming in. Oh, yeah, that wasn't fair. That was a bad hit. No, this is what happens when you entered the arena. But Trump was talking deal-making language. What cards do you have or not have? Who's got, you know, can you win without us? This is all defining leverage that you either have or you don't have.
Starting point is 01:42:25 And in every single case, Ukraine doesn't have. But Zelensky wanted to lean on his seat, the smaller physical man, the smaller intellectual man and then pick a fight with J.D. Vance over what does this diplomacy mean? I couldn't believe what I was hearing. It was wild. Talking to with our friend Stephen Yates, at Yates comes on X. I wanted to ask you, too, related to this, a couple of different stories highlight how Zelensky is suggesting, well, you know, if we're not going to have a strong alliance here, then maybe I need to go explore my options with China, which to me seems hokey and desperate. And I think I would hope that the world sees it, because China's going to be on Russia.
Starting point is 01:43:04 There's something they can glean from Ukraine. Is there? What do you make of that? Yeah. But that's just what exposes the hero of the global left essentially has no real principles or vision if you're going to say things like that because China has singularly empowered the Russian war machine more than anyone else on the planet, maybe a second place, Europe, by having their economic relationships through all this.
Starting point is 01:43:32 but China's done a ton to help this meat grinder pro go forward for years now. So saying, yeah, we're just going to make a deal with them is just bewildering beyond belief. But it also gets at the heart of another thing that I think was very strategic about what the Trump team was doing. The big mistake that was done in Afghanistan after the travesty of the withdrawal and leaving our equipment behind was just leaving Afghanistan to be there for all the Volturnal. with China and the lead to come and get the mineral deposits and other riches out of Afghanistan when we left. And so we don't want to have given $200 billion in aid and help try to secure a peace, only to have China to come in and opportunistically take mineral rights that would be good for our competition
Starting point is 01:44:23 with this axis of do no good. And so I thought that this minerals deal was surprisingly more strategic, than it seemed on its surface. And some of it was getting at that post-war reality and not letting those who made the war worse benefit from the peace that we try to carve out. That's a good way to put it. It looks like they're going to sign that. We're going to, after all this dust up,
Starting point is 01:44:48 he's going to come and sign it anyway. So he did all that and got all that egg on his face for nothing. Before I let you go, I guess I'm interpreting this as a big win against China as it relates to Panama. A headline, China fumes at U.S. as Panama pulls out of key agreement with Beijing. We've talked about this before. This has been a long time coming.
Starting point is 01:45:06 But now that Panama is getting out of Belt and road and is at least demonstrating that they're more in step with the United States than they are with China, how much of a setback is that for China that's really worked hard to get their foot secured in that part of the world? Well, in Central America, and I hope in broader Latin America, I think it's a major, major signal. It definitely is not just one of those where someone goes lukewarm on this very cynical Belt and Road initiative. They're formally withdrawing. And it basically is also an acknowledgement that America, when we step in and do meaningful things, and Secretary Rubio made this front and center early, we have options and partners to do things differently in our own neighborhood. And we need to.
Starting point is 01:45:56 If we want to stop this flow of illegal migration, if we want to strike. stop the spread of corruption and the seeds of the trouble in our own hemisphere, we've got to do some things here. And if we can rebalance our supply chains to this theater, all the better. And so Panama is kind of a down payment on that turn. I think it's meaningful and worth following up on more China, I think, is signaling they see it as meaningful. And that's why you're getting the temper tantrum. Yeah, there you go. Well, that's good.
Starting point is 01:46:29 I like the temper. I'll take that. The temper tantrum is a sign of victory. Our good friend, for now with this one. Stephen Yates at Yates Coms. Always so good to talk with you, safe travels. And we always, we see your work in the headlines, you know, just may not have your name right by it. Always good to see you, my friend. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends at all family pharmacy.
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Starting point is 01:48:34 It's going to narrow the scope. They're not, so they're not, that's a huge, huge, huge thing. They're not going to enforce any penalties or fines against anybody for or beneficial owners regarding this forthcoming rule. And they're going to, so that's good. That was a major thing. We're going to talk more about that tomorrow. Right of time right now, though. Today's stupidity came.
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