The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Thursday January 11 - Full Show

Episode Date: January 11, 2024

Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley square off in the last debate before the Iowa Caucus. Dana sounds off on Trump’s Fox News town hall being held at the same time in Iowa. Dana explains where the 2024 can...didates have flip-flopped and what the messaging should be. DigiBuild CEO Robert Salvador joins us to explain how his company is using AI to get more accurate political polling. A church performs a woke song called “Identity Politics”. Rep. Chip Roy joins us to break down the latest with the spending bill.Please visit our great sponsors:Black Rifle Coffeehttps://blackriflecoffee.com/danaJoin the Coffee Club today and get 30% off your first month’s subscription.Express VPNhttps://expressvpn.com/danaGo incognito and protect your privacy with 3 extra months FREE.KelTechttps://KelTecWeapons.comSign up for the KelTec Insider and be the first to know the latest KelTec news.Patriot Mobilehttps://patriotmobile.com/danaGet free activation with code Dana.Wise Food Storagehttps://preparewithdana.comSave $50 on your 4-Week Survival Food Kit plus free shipping when you order today!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's just put this in perspective. Under her administration, you would have seniors getting less cost of living adjustments while your tax dollars are going to pay the pensions of Ukrainian bureaucrats. That's not true. You talk about putting Americans last. That is wrong. You've supported all that money going over there. So let's put our own people first. We have to put Governor. Governor Haley, let's speak. And she also said, she said recently that the age of Social Security is way too low. And I criticized that. And then she was called on it. And then she said she never said it, of course, you're lying. And then, sure enough, you put on the interview where she's there, spit an image. And she says it's way too low. So, you know, we can play this song and dance. She has a record.
Starting point is 00:00:40 She makes statements. And I think part of the problem with her candidacy is now that she's getting scrutiny, she's got this problem with ballistic podiatry, shooting herself in the foot every other day, saying things that now she doesn't even take questions from people. I mean, I wish that I had a band of podiatrist that were also competitive. shooters and then played some Southern Fried Rock because I think that's what the band name would be is
Starting point is 00:01:06 ballistic pediatry that was actually quite good I'm going to so steal it I'm so going to steal it without attribution I'm going to thieve it like Claudine Gay welcome to the program who boy we got I got a lot of good stuff
Starting point is 00:01:25 for you as well and speaking of her website there's going to be peace going live here momentarily up at the newsletter substack for reverse. Lorraine was burning the midnight oil because she caught some she caught some shenanigans on that website that uh, Neocon Nikki was pushing. So we're going to talk. Oh, did I say that? All right. So first off, welcome to the program. Dana Lash here with you. Top of this first hour. It's a post debate. And I think it's, I mean, to me, it seems pretty much settled. And as I wrote in one of the, I think it was one of the pieces. I'm sorry, I'm pulling this up right now because things kind of had a little hiccup. One of the pieces that I wrote last night,
Starting point is 00:02:05 I was kind of talking a little bit about the shelf life, particularly of Haley's candidacy. Because see, you have Iowa and then after you have New Hampshire and South Carolina. She's got a little bit of an extension being that South Carolina is her home state. And also New Hampshire's, you know, East Coastie, Northeast Coastie. So she kind of can appeal to that as well. So it makes, I think it makes DeSantis' job a little harder in terms of longevity. But when I watch this debate, and you guys know where I am, I unlike everyone else in this industry, whatever you want to call it, I actually will go against my own best interest because I can't stand blowing smoke up your backside, right? I just, I simply cannot. I can't stand it. I tell you where I'm at,
Starting point is 00:02:57 not as a way to tell you what to think, just so you know where I'm coming from. I could, I honestly don't care what you do. I mean, I don't want to sound mean, but I'm also going to, if I see somebody gaslighting you or I'm going to call it out, I don't care who they are. I'm only in this as a voter and for voters because, and also not to sound mean, I'm going to say that a lot today. I hate these people. I mean, maybe hates a strong word. They're not people that I would chill with. You know what I'm saying? Like, these are not people.
Starting point is 00:03:33 They're politicians. And I get real weird. I have a story of someone who I was friends with who ran for office and it just made it weird with me. Is that ignorant? Shut up. You just, you just, you just, you just, you for a split second, you were like, it's kind of bitchy.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I just saw the expression came. I was weighing the pros and cons. Uh-huh. I just can't help it. I just immediately distrust someone. when I just I can't help it. There's something in my American DNA that kicks in. So I'm going to start with that because I'm going to be straight no chaser with you guys. And I'm on your behalf. I don't care about any of these people. I mean, I've, I want to win in 2024. I voted for Trump twice. I want to win in 2024. I prefer DeSantis in the primary. But at the same time,
Starting point is 00:04:19 you know, I have disagreements with him and I'm going to talk about that coming up. It's true. nobody's perfect. I disagree with my husband about how to live the dishwasher. His way is insane. Not everybody agrees 100%. So I don't like, I don't think that you have to in order to support someone or not. But one thing that I don't cannot stand is when people try to retcon history. I cannot stand that. And we're going to go through some of it. So welcome again. You can listen coast to coast. Watch the simulcast channel 347, direct TV as well. And YouTube, Facebook, always always really good discussion happening there. So first up, that, that might, my, my 30,000 foot view is that I think Nikki Haley, now I walked into this debate wanting DeSantis to win it. But it's not a guarantee.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And I'm not going to sit here and expend my own political capital by telling you something that's not true. I don't love any candidate, politician, or anyone in the public eye enough to spend my personal capital on them. I don't care how ignorant it sounds. It's God's honest truth. And if everyone else in this industry is being honest with you, they'd say the same thing. But I'm going to tell you my exact opinion. So I walked into this.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I wanted him to win. But if Nikki Haley is having a good day and she's on, she can be a good debater. It's weird because sometimes she's on and sometimes she's not. One thing that she does not have is any kind of internal regulator to roll it back. Because this chick had mad Hillary energy last night. And you kind of heard it in the soundbite that we just played. She's like, you're lying.
Starting point is 00:05:49 is it that's just you're so desperate. I hate that. That's like Pick Me Girl energy. I cannot stand it. Right? You know it's true. There was at one point she kept saying it throughout the literal debate. He's, you're demeaning me.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And I, I, that just, this was her worst debate. I did not have a personal dislike of her going into this. I disliked her policies greatly. But after watching this performance last night, I think that if I'd actually ever met her, I would have a person. I met her one time backstage at an event, like for five seconds. I think if I actually met her, met her and talked to her, I think I dislike her. I'm just saying, because I cannot stand when chicks do that.
Starting point is 00:06:31 When someone disagrees with you, you're not being attacked. That's not, I can't stand this whole, I'm a strong woman, and I, my heels are ammunition. And also, you're demeaning me because he's disagreeing with you? Stop it. How many times is she going to play that chick cart? It was so annoying. I could not handle it. So I immediately, I mean, and I, if you followed me on social media, that was a huge, it was a huge chunk of what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Because I could, I just, I was shocked that she leaned into it so hard because she did. This was the worst debate she ever had. She came off as Hillary 2.0. Petty and whiny and playing the woman card. DeSantis seemed confident and amused. Now, I was, this can go both ways when I talk about that internal regulator. You don't want to go so hard that you look like a bitch. With women, it's easy to do that.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And if you're a dude, you don't want to go so hard that you look like you're just callous and flippant because then that can be projected as a feeling towards the voter. So you've got to be careful. There was one point, and where she actually, let me pull this up, I just, here's. There was at one point in this debate where I was shocked. They were talking about their military. They were talking about military. and he mentioned his military service. And she rolled her eyes as he mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:07:53 This was the audio sound by 11. And if you're watching the simulcast, you can see it. He just mentioned it because they were talking about military and foreign policy. And she rolled her eyes when he mentioned it. Listen. I'm the only one running for president that served in the armed forces. I was deployed to Iraq back in 2007, 2008. So I understand what our military goes through.
Starting point is 00:08:13 That's, that's Kane, right? Did she even mouth like wow? Like it was something she's so surprised to hear come out of his mouth? I don't know, but I'm just, I'm trying to figure out why that was worthy of her rolling her eyes. It just looked declass A. That's what I'm talking about. It just very much looked declass A. They, there were some, I thought that the questions were asked pretty straight.
Starting point is 00:08:39 There was a lot of focus on foreign policy. And they were, it was, it was very good. This was, who, audio sound by four. This was a, this was a banger, as Steve would say. Listen. She doesn't articulate how this comes to an end, except she was asked after the last debate by, I believe, Megan Kelly. And she said, you bring it to an end by bringing Ukraine into NATO. But, of course, we're a NATO country.
Starting point is 00:09:03 So if you bring Ukraine into NATO, that puts the United States at war. Megan said that to her. And then she basically gave a word salad as to how you go from there. So they have sent cash. she supports this $106 billion that they're trying to get through Congress. Where are some of that money going? They've done tens of billions of dollars
Starting point is 00:09:20 to pay salaries for Ukrainian government bureaucrats. They've paid pensions for Ukrainian retirees with your tax dollars. We've got homeless veterans. We have all these problems. This is the UN way of thinking that we're somehow globalists and we have unlimited resources to do.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I think here's the problem. You can take the ambassador out of the United Nations but you can't take the United Nations out of the ambassador. Now, my biggest disagreement with her, and she's been on the show, and we've talked about it, is foreign policy. And we really went back and forth on Ukraine. Because I don't believe that, I mean, Russia can't even take Ukraine. What in the world makes these people think that they're going to launch a huge war on NATO? United States, Britain, I mean, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:10:10 People know who all the NATO members are. They already have NATO on their doorstep with the, with the, uh, Baltic states. I just, it's unbelievable because it's not going to happen. And I think it's a pretext. Just it's a, it's just this old time, old fashioned foreign policy that is not current in today's context. It's not applicable in today's context. And that's a, that's one of the big differences. And I was really glad to see that measured out. Now, before the debate, Chris Christie dropped out. He didn't endorse anyone because Chris Christie's only ever about Chris Christie. I'm not going to back pat him. I'm not going to high-five him. I'm just glad that he dropped out. I wish he would have
Starting point is 00:10:48 done it sooner because he just clogged up the sewer pipe that is this primary. And he had said he was suspending his campaign and then he added this. Audio sound by three. That's so stupid. Because I want to promise you this. I am going to make sure that in no way do I enable Donald Trump to ever be president of the United States again. But he's doing that now. and that's more important than my own personal ambition. So he's going to try, I think he is throwing momentum. I think he's going to back Haley. I think, and if he doesn't do it publicly, he's going to do it back channel.
Starting point is 00:11:24 You can say what you want, but Haley's got a lot of establishment momentum behind her. And I think that he's going to, he does this right before Iowa and then also leading into New Hampshire because he wants to throw some of that momentum towards her. And so I just, am I supposed to think that this was like some kind of grand gesture? A guy had no shot in hell and winning at all whatsoever. He's not popular. He's not even popular with a lot of moderates and independence. He has too high of a red count in his own state even.
Starting point is 00:11:52 He didn't even have a lot of endorsements in his own state even. So I just, I mean, I find it goofy that he thought that he had any kind of serious candidacy. He just wanted to be a cudgel. That's all he wanted to be. And I just, I don't think it's any kind of grand gesture. Now coming up, there's a million things to hit because we've got a debate recap. What this means for Iowa going forward, what it means for New Hampshire. And a very unpopular opinion that I hold, maybe it's unpopular, maybe it's not.
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Starting point is 00:13:32 Tell them Dana sent you. And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five. So today in football news, Sportsball. Nick Saban retires as Alabama coach after his historic unparalleled career. The Tuscaloosa News has one of the initial stories. They said he's retiring.
Starting point is 00:13:53 It came out last night. They never wanted to hear it. All my Bama friends are just as depressed as could be. But he won. He's going out on a high note. 17 seasons. He won. National championships.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I mean, golly, he's 72 years old. And so he's won six national championships. championships when he arrived in 2007. And he's, you know, his career earns with seven total, one with LSU. Nobody else has won more in the history of college football. So it's a
Starting point is 00:14:24 very illustrious career indeed. Mark Zuckerberg shares that he is raising cattle, beer, and macadamia nuts on his new newly expanded Hawaiian estate. The CEO shared his latest passion project. He said that he's, I will say this.
Starting point is 00:14:40 He's not like, um, I got my issues with Facebook, believe me, because they throttle me. But he won't do business with China, and he's not going along with the don't eat beef people. So I don't dislike him as much. I'm a little bit chaotic neutral on this. You know what I mean? He's not like a Bill Gates. And he's raising counties like, I love beef.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I'm eating meat. So I'm cool with that. Fauci admits social distancing wasn't scientific. and the Wuhan lab leak wasn't a conspiracy theory. One of the things that came out yesterday, still ongoing today. He finished up his second day of closed door testimony before the House Select Subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic chaired by Brad Winstrup. And those were some of the highlights.
Starting point is 00:15:25 It was a two-day, 14-hour transcribed interview. Remember how I told you this is a standard operating procedure with this stuff? Hunter Biden won't do this because then he actually has to go on record. But Fauci said the six feet apart social distancing recommendation that was promoted was not based on data. He said it, quote, just sort of appeared. Except, no, they started it, like what, way, way bad. It was like some kind of high school science project. And then they ended up promoting it.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Red State has like the whole origin story of the social distancing. So that's some nonsense right there. We're going to talk about it. Amazon is about to eat the television universe. Prime Video is going to make its tier, its ad tier, the default for its tens of millions of subscribers. I think this is stupid. They just laid off a bunch of people, too. They fired a bunch of people on the video side.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I think if you are a, why the hell do you pay the premium fee to have commercials? If I see commercials, I literally will make a note to never buy your product. I am hateful. I will never buy your product. If I see it, if it falls off a truck, I'll run over it. I'm driving on the road. I don't know. Just full of just vinegar and, you know what today.
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Starting point is 00:18:22 Talking about a COVID shutdown. Correct. No, I wouldn't. And I never did. We did the right thing. We closed the country down. I could have kept it open. And I could have done what some countries are doing.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I had to shut it down and we did the right thing. Florida did shut down. Run to Sanctus. down. We're in a play school, Florida, and we have a great governor. Great governor knows exactly what he's doing. Terrific job. He just announced that the schools will be open. Governor's done a great job. Florida is down low now in the China virus. He shut his state down very violently. And you're open and you didn't close and you're just amazing, right? This guy. One of the greatest governors in our country and I know a lot of good ones and I can tell you
Starting point is 00:19:03 there's some really bad ones too, but this is a great one. Governor Ron DeSan. So this was, it started with his answer to one of the questions at the town hall that he had last night, which I only watched bits and pieces of. I'll expand on that. And also compared to all of the other times where he was promoting lockdowns. Welcome back to the program. Daniel last year with you, bottom of this first hour. As I've said before, I don't believe, we don't live in a monarchy. We had people who died to protect our system, our democratic process.
Starting point is 00:19:37 in this free republic. And it is the responsibility of every free American to actions and hold politicians accountable. Politicians are supposed to be loyal to you. I absolutely reject the Marxist theory that we are
Starting point is 00:19:55 to serve the politician and we cannot ask them questions because of some bull crap loyalty when in fact the opposite is supposed to be true. They are supposed to be loyal to us. and I think that 2024 Trump
Starting point is 00:20:09 would like to have a word with 2020 Trump and you cannot tell me that there should not be questions asked about this he had said he wouldn't support a COVID shutdown and he said he was a federalist but you just heard in the soundbite
Starting point is 00:20:25 and we have tons of video on this I mean I can let me know and I'll play them we've got a lot of video on this do we not Kane where he was attacking states that either did not walk down fast enough
Starting point is 00:20:37 or reopened, or didn't lock down everything, or reopened too fast. So you can try to retcon what you did in the past, but there are videos that I have right now that I'm looking at. Can we, let's play some of them. Just get them ready. Where he was telling people, he was blasting either Georgia or Florida, you know, they were reopening.
Starting point is 00:21:06 or when he was promoting Fauci and celebrating Fauci and promoting the vaccine and telling everyone that they should get it. There's video that I have here where he's telling all of his supporters to get the vaccine. Don't try to retcon it. Listen, here's an example. He took care of Joe Biden because he got his shot. He got his vaccine. He forgot.
Starting point is 00:21:30 It shows you how un-painful that vaccine shot is. So everybody go get your shot. It works incredibly well. 95% maybe even more than that. It works incredibly well. Going after, like I said, these governors who, I mean, he went after Florida. He went after Georgia because he thought they reopened too much. I remember that distinctly because Kane and I were kind of looking at each other.
Starting point is 00:21:52 We carried that. That's when they were still doing the coronavirus task force. They had their press conferences every day. And he was standing there on the stage at the podium with Dr. Burke and Dr. Fauci. and he was asked about that from a member of the press and he then started throwing shade on the states that were reopening or had kids or were trying to get kids to go back to schools. He was mad over it.
Starting point is 00:22:19 So you can't retcon this. Don't gaslight us. That's what Biden and Democrats do every damn day. We're Americans. We have the right to say, hold up. You shut down the largest economy in the world. our kids suffered immeasurably. We have a right to ask.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And I'm going to tell you this. Don't say you're a fighter and then not show up to the fights. Don't say that debates are unimportant and then hold a town hall where you received no pushback. I'm sorry, but there was no pushback in that town hall. None. Answers are the, all the questions are, they're all screened and they're all pre-selected. Is Biden not made fun of that? that? So there was no pushback at that town hall at all whatsoever. It was just a fawning
Starting point is 00:23:07 episode. That's all it was. It might have well been just a rally. But don't say that debates are unimportant and then not go to the debate, but then host a fawning town hall in the same damn town on this same damn night. Voters have a right to hear from politicians and ask them questions. And you know what? They have the right to see you argue them and try to support them. Preselected questions, please. Fawning hosts who are too afraid of what may happen to their ratings or from up on high to ask hard questions and pushback, please. There was no pushback on that.
Starting point is 00:23:55 There wasn't a single question about due process and red flag and gun seizure either. Not a single one of these cable news hosts have either had the knowledge. or the beans to ask, none of them. So yes, we have an absolute right to question this. And I absolutely reject the Marxist dummy accounts on social media that try to shame you and bully you out of your God-given American right to hold these people accountable and ask them questions. I don't care who they are.
Starting point is 00:24:26 They try to make you feel like you're bad or you're part of the establishment because you won't because you ask questions of the guy who handpicked the Republican Party chair, who has the backing of Lindsey Graham. who campaigns with Lindsay Graham? Seriously? And I say this as somebody who voted twice for him. I introduced him at CPAC. His campaign asked me to be their spokesperson. So everything I said, all of it. Ask questions. Hold accountable. It applies to him too. And this is my point. Now, the debate I thought was interesting.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And I noticed that all these other people were too afraid. They were too afraid to remark on anything. They're too afraid. I'm done with it. I'm done. That's the other thing. Do you realize that people will try to cancel you on the, I mean, yeah, I hate it. It's cancel culture.
Starting point is 00:25:28 You're told to be careful about the primary stuff. I've heard this before. I've heard it from executives. I've heard it from so many people. You've got to be careful. Have you seen some of the. polls, the national polls are coming to a close. They're getting closer. Coming up, we're going to talk about how you're kind of getting set up for a trap, I think. But if you were really in this
Starting point is 00:25:50 to like make money and all of this stuff, you'd be doing what some of these other cats are doing, going out there, celebrating basically being like an arm of somebody's campaign. Speaking of what, last night, the one thing I did disagree with DeSantis on, I thought he did great. And then he mentioned term limits and I totally disagree. I've said this before. And again, I don't even agree with my husband on everything. I've said this before. I think term limits is giving a right and responsibility of the
Starting point is 00:26:22 voter to the government. The vote is the term limit. And you only mentioned it once. I wish one of the moderators that have come back to it, I would have immediately stopped and said, do you think, what do you make of the criticism that that is seating voter authority to the government? Because that's what it is. I am hardcore against term limits because that's your job. That's our job. I agree with the federalists on this, the federalist papers. I've read anti-federalist and federalist remarks and I side with
Starting point is 00:26:54 the founders in the federalist papers arguing against term limits. The voters, the term limit. And I also think, you know, the way that Senate was selected, I mean, we could go back a long ways in this. But again, just very basically, it comes down to the voter and your vote is the term limit. Now, this is where it gets kind of crazy because why is it that you have candidates who say things on video? And then when they're asked about the things that they said on video, they say they didn't say that. I'm really curious. So, for instance, you had this, Audiosound by 6, and she kept going, you lie, you lie. This had to do Nikki Mouse with Disney.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Listen to this. We took on Disney and we defeated that and we won that fight and our kids are better off. Now, Nikki Haley sided with Disney. She invited them to South Carolina, even though they were involved in transing kids. That is not what we need to do. But I think that's similar. I mean, you remember we talked about that when it happened. She actually invited Disney to South Carolina to do business.
Starting point is 00:28:01 She invited them to do business there. And then she wants to act like she's on the part. She's like in on somehow the side of the parents. I mean, do you believe that Disney should be able to dodge its tax responsibility in Florida with completely anti, you know, I don't know how do you want to put it? Anti-populous, anti-voter preferential cronious tax dodging treatment? Because that's what they enjoyed. And it was put to an end. You consider to argue about when it was put to an end, but it was put to an end.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Maybe if Disney hadn't taken their war to parents, maybe it wouldn't come up. Who knows? but it shouldn't have been there regardless of when it ended, I don't care. I made the remark that she's only pro-life because she needs babies to woo Disney to South Carolina. It's true. And then you have this. This is, oh, audio sound bite 9. That might be a little long, but I'm going to cut it.
Starting point is 00:29:00 We got to talk about this. There's an article that's up on my substack right now, chapter inverse by Lorraine. Let's hit this one. There are at least a couple of dozens so far that he's done. So what we're going to do is rather than have him go and tell you all these lies, you can go to DeSantis Lies.com. And look at all of those. There's at least two dozen lies that he's told about me. That's like a Mary Kay Hard sell.
Starting point is 00:29:20 And you can see where fact checkers say exactly what's going to happen and exactly why it's wrong. So it will cover the fact that he's only mad about the donors because the donors used to be with him, but they're no longer with him now. And that's because here's the thing. So the website, so this is what Lorraine found. And even my own college kid was looking at this yesterday. her website actually debunks her claims. Apparently, they didn't actually look at they, you can tell that they just Google food and just pick the first headline that they read. I'm not kidding you. It is so embarrassing. Her own actual sources completely obliterate her narratives on one thing after the other. Lorraine goes through it. It's up now. On the Gaza refugees, she was claiming that, somehow that she was saying that DeSantis lied about me and said I want to accept refugees.
Starting point is 00:30:16 She literally did and she actually was talking about that. But more so, DeSantis never said that. Like the source that she has listed actually debunks it. Debunks the claim that she's making. And then she uses as her source for other things that she can't cherry pick something on. She literally links to a video of herself saying it. my source is myself. I am not joking with you.
Starting point is 00:30:41 This is almost the entirety of her website. My college kid was looking at this. Lorraine went through the whole thing last night. I mean over and over again. On energy, China. She says that DeSantis recruited Chinese companies. And then she literally linked to something that in the second paragraph totally said otherwise.
Starting point is 00:31:06 that is so embarrassing and she just kept pushing it and it's a clunky website in the first place but oh my gosh i mean it's insane and then she tried to blame uh for instance desantis for a policy that was under rick scott's administration that desantis ended and so she misrepresents it on her website for instance this is about like these energy incentives etc uh the same with the fracking in the Everglades. Florida voters voted no on fracking in the Everglades. That's their right to do so they can do it. I mean, it passed like overwhelmingly.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And she says that DeSantis basically made an executive maneuver to ban fracking in all of Florida. Are you? What? That's the stuff that she says. And it's immediately disproven in everything on her website. It is one of the worst things. My son was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:32:05 This wouldn't even. I would actually have this count against me if I presented this as sources in one of my classes because it's so bad. I mean, she's getting owned by kids for crying out loud. It's up at a substack right now, chapter and verse, it's the top story up there. You need to see how bad it is. It's so bad. You really do.
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Starting point is 00:33:43 stay in the loop and ahead of the curve by following Dana on apple Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts like sands through the hourglass so are the days of the united states so to those who say i can't vote for joe biden it's too old old. What do you say? I say his age is an asset. He's wise. Yes, he's wise. He has wisdom. He has experience. He knows every leader on the world stage. He's lived history. He knows history. He's thoughtful in his decisions. He is the right man or the right person. Why is she campaigning for him like this? Like why isn't he out here making, oh, because he's probably like fell down in the basement somewhere. Hell if I know. welcome back to the program. That's Jill Biden
Starting point is 00:34:33 who oh sorry I got to mention the the pity PhDs the freebie the participation trophy I'm not calling her doctor if you can't rearrange guts I'm stop it I maintain that I have friends who well I got a friend who's got a doctorate and they can't arrange guts and we just if we agree to disagree sorry you paid that much just to have your ego
Starting point is 00:34:54 fellated really sorry I mean it I'm not sorry at all so that was her interview. What was that? NBC? MSNBC. He's full of vigor. You mean vinegar? Like he's pickled? Because that makes more sense, really. I mean, if you think about it. Her, his age is an asset. He's history. He's been alive since the creation of time. I mean, he knows all the world leaders because he was old when they were born. He's, I'm so tired. of like these octogenarians running for office stop it her other soundbite which we're going to play coming up is also bad because guys she's very she's mad at you because you have dared to ask
Starting point is 00:35:44 questions about baby hunt baby hunter infant baby hunter the crack-spoken baby hunter she's mad she says you're ignorant and mean and you're cruel for what you're doing to him. So mean. I've got that for you coming up. And also, when are we actually going to be able to ask questions that need to be asked in the Republican primary without a tiny fraction of people melting down? Right. And I don't want you to be cowed into thinking that you can't freely ask questions by brand new engagement accounts on social media. So you have a right. It's your responsibility as an American. And we're going to continue doing that on this program. Stick with us. Second. hour on the way. Our partners that help bring you free radio. It's our friends over at Patriot Mobile,
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Starting point is 00:38:02 Florida's cruise industry. They shut down churches on military basis, and they were pressuring states. Remember, when Brian Kemp reopened Georgia in April, Donald Trump went to the White House podium and attacked him for doing that. He was saying schools should be closed. They attacked me in the summer of 2020 when Florida had his first COVID wave and we had schools and businesses open. So it's massive massive gaslighting. He was able to do that, I guess, on Fox with no pushback, which was really, well, I guess that's just
Starting point is 00:38:34 part for the course at this point. But the reality is, he knows that he dropped the ball. I mean, he, and I think all of this bear, this is why people want questions to be asked, and I'm sorry, but the town hall last night, the debate was the debate. Iron sharpens iron.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Fighters show up to fights. And the town hall where they were pre-selected questions, they were softballs and there was no pushback. There were a couple, actually, I will say there were a couple of good questions, but there was no pushback. If Trump would say something, Brett Baer and Martha McCallum said they're like, Brett Bear only pushed back one time on J6.
Starting point is 00:39:10 That was it. One time. Otherwise, it was, okay, now next question. What is the point of it? I mean, you're, if there is nothing, if you don't have anything to fear, and that's why you don't want to debate, then why even do a town hall in the same town, literally down street the same night. Welcome back to the program. Top of the second hour, Daniel Ash, with you. Always good to be with you. And I'm always going to ask questions of elected officials.
Starting point is 00:39:35 It's always going to happen. I'm having a nice disagreement right now with a very wonderful listener who disagrees with me on term limits because I said, there's one thing I do disagree with DeSanis on. He likes term limits. I do not because I think that's the voter's responsibility. I'm very, very federalist about it, federalist papers. And I'm having a very nice discussion as it should always be with a listener who's like, no, this is why I said. And I appreciate other people's viewpoints, but I just, I just don't agree. Now with this, I wanted to play, because I think that DeSanos brings up some very good questions. And I think having two people debate that, how invaluable would that be? You have a governor who was criticized for opening, because everybody, everybody followed
Starting point is 00:40:17 the White House's lead to some extent in the very beginning before we knew what was happening. And then the moment the science became apparent, a lot of states began bucking those orders. And that's when Trump got mad. Florida was one of them. As soon as the science came out, they 1-80ed. And I'm glad they did. A lot of other areas did too. A lot of others didn't.
Starting point is 00:40:40 But I am very interested in watching those two debate as to why Trump felt without actual science it was necessary to shut down the largest economy in the world and demand that people lock down and then go after these governors and states that didn't follow their edicts and listen to that being contrasted. I want to see iron sharpen iron because I'm a free citizen and I am very excited to exercise my rights that have been that people died to protect in this republic and this whole system. Those are good points. There was no pushback at the town hall. And there weirdly was no pushback on this either. I wanted to play, where's this at? This is, okay, so this is 19. This is kind of long. I may jump in, but this was a pro-life. This was one of like maybe, I think, two good questions at the town hall.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Everything was pre-selected and it was very soft. But this was a question about pro-life, where a pro-life voter asks Trump about his commitment to pro-life. Now, you would think this should be easy for him because he's the guy who was in office when Roe v. Dobbs v. Jackson women's health. So that should be part of, instead of running from that, that should be part of your legacy. But I want you to listen to this. This was very weird. Listen. For me, it all comes down to this question. Okay. So between you, sir, President Trump and Ron DeSantis, because you both talk a lot about pro-life, your record. And that's my number one issue and the cry of my heart is justice for all people. And I've been, you know, vocal and celebrating with you all of your pro-life victories from the past.
Starting point is 00:42:20 But then in this campaign, you've also blamed pro-lifers for some of the GOP losses around the country, and you've called heartbeat laws like Iowa's terrible. And so I'd just like some clarity on this, because it's such an important question to me. I'd like for you to reassure me that you can protect all life, every person's right to life, without compromise. So that's a great question. I appreciate it, too. You wouldn't be asking that question, even talking about the issue, because for 54, years they were trying to get Roe v. Wade terminated, and I did it. And I'm proud to have done it. They wanted to get it back, right? You wouldn't be have that. There would be no question.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Nobody else was going to get that done. But me. And we did it. And we did something that was a miracle. When I walked onto the stage today, a gentleman in the back probably works for Fox, nice guy, said, sir, I'd like to thank you. I said, for what? He said, you saved two million lives in the last three years. You saved two million lives. And I said, thank you very much. much. I knew exactly what he meant. Two million lives. And nobody's done more in that regard to me. Now, I happen to be for the exceptions, like Ronald Reagan with the life of the mother, rape, incest. I have, I just have to be there, I feel, I think probably 78% or so, probably 78%. It was Ronald Reagan. He was for it. I was for it. But I will say this, you have to win elections. Otherwise, you're going
Starting point is 00:43:50 to be back where you were, and you can't let that ever happen again. You've got to win elections. If you look at it, Iran DeSantis, I don't know what he really believes, because you know, you never know with a politician, and he's just another politician as far as I'm concerned. But he's different somehow. His poll numbers have gone down to a level that he's going to be out of the race very soon. It's going to be out very soon. I just think it's weird that his first response was not to defend pro-life or the pro-life position, but to argue that being pro-life or having an overabundance of pro-life messaging compromises your position or that hurts your poll numbers. And then he then he segues into DeSantis being too pro-life.
Starting point is 00:44:33 That's weird to me because they didn't compromise and it wasn't just DeSantis. It was a ton of Florida lawmakers. They didn't compromise that position in Florida when they won by over when they won by double digits the last election and eliminated Democrats from any statewide office. And before you say, well, that's Florida. Florida was literally a purple state. until an election ago. I'll say it again. Florida was a purple state until one election ago. So you can't say, oh, well, that's Florida.
Starting point is 00:45:00 It's different. I watched when Florida went for Barack Obama. I was there, and that's when I knew it was an hour into the night in 2012, and I watched Florida go Democrat. I watched Florida lawmakers barely win statewide offices, like Republican officials barely win statewide offices. It was literally a swing state until one election ago. They did not compromise their message. They embraced it and then they were smart about it. They were smart about what actually Democrats are pushing for, abortion on demand funded by the taxpayer because very blatantly,
Starting point is 00:45:40 that's what it is. You had a bill in the Senate that was co-sponsored by every Democrat in the Senate. that literally removed the Hyde Amendment, which that ignores fungibility anyway. It's, you know, a whole other debate. But it removed the Hyde Amendment. And it literally was actually legalizing abortion as birth control on demand up until birth eligible for taxpayer coverage. They were very smart about their messaging in Florida. And instead of going that route, I don't understand Trump's answer. His first instinct is to not defend. and pro-life. It's to immediately say, well, if you're too pro-life, it hurts your poll numbers. That is not a champion for the cause. That is not championing that issue. And I will caution
Starting point is 00:46:35 people who are so blinded, and I don't say that to be mean, but people who are so blinded for cult of personality or to back a candidate, remember, you are the priority, not them. If this is a cause that's close to your heart, that is not an answer from someone that sounds like they're championing that cause. You do with that what you will. But I'm telling you, that's not the answer that a champion of the cause would give. Now, I'm going to say this. We're going to just get it all the way because we got a very interesting guest coming up about polling.
Starting point is 00:47:12 So I'm going to get into all that later. I have never heard. And at first when he started this, I thought this was going to be something I was going to be using as a highlight for a bad moment in the debate. I'm not going to lie. when he first started this, I was like, this is not going to, I don't know what I think about this. This might be a low moment for him. Because when you're explaining, you're losing.
Starting point is 00:47:31 That was how my perspective on it. But it ended up, I think, being one of the best explainers. So this is the perspective through which I was taking this answer. Because DeSantis was asked about Trump's legal cases and all that and he's got stuff going on today. And I think that each, the cases are different. Some of them are absolute witch hunts. you know, but you, you, you, everything has to be looked at separately because the, my thing is the Marlago doc thing, because that's the, that's actually gets into some real legal issues. Uh, but the other stuff is witch on stuff. Now, voters have only one loyalty and that's to the cause of limited government and freedom and preserving it for the future. You, there's no such thing as being disloyal as a voter. that does not exist in this republic and you have to very seriously consider how best to advocate and
Starting point is 00:48:31 advance your issues and your will going forward that's what this is politicians are just instruments that's the perspective through which i took this answer desantis was asked about it and i think that he explained it very well in 45 seconds and i've never heard this actually addressed head on like this and i wanted to play it for you this is audio sound bite five But I think there's a larger issue Republicans have got to think of it. Donald Trump's going to lose that appeal. He's going to end up going to trial in front of a stacked left-wing DC jury of all Democrats. What are the odds that he's going to get through that? And that's even talking about the validity of the charges. I don't think he gets through that. And so what are we going to do as Republicans in terms of who we nominate for president?
Starting point is 00:49:16 If Trump is the nominee, it's going to be about January 6th, legal issues, criminal trials, the Democrats in the media would look. love to run with that. I'm not running for my issues. I'm running for your issues. We need to make this election a referendum on the failures of Joe Biden, the failures of the Democratic Party, and how we have the formula to engineer a great comeback for this country. That's why I was. When he first started that, I thought he was going to get in the weeds and this is going to be bad. And he didn't. That's a very good answer. And it puts a lot on the table to think about. you're not excusing Democrat corruption
Starting point is 00:49:55 but if you have another tool in your hand that you can use for defense and advancement of your issues why not use it and now all of the news you would probably miss it's time for Dana's Quick 5 all right so the ultra
Starting point is 00:50:16 process diet that everybody's been fighting over with nutrition. Apparently, now people are asking, is it really bad? Is America's ultra-processed diet that bad? Big food, because there's big everything. Now, you know how everything is like gait something? Now everything is like big. So it's like big farm, big farmer. Can't forget that from yesterday. The food industry is rallying to defend processing and they say the changes could rock the world of manufacturers. Like high fructose corn syrup, things like that. I mean, it's, I don't know. It's, it is bad for you. You need to eat as like holes as you possibly can,
Starting point is 00:50:49 I think. So, what are they not telling us? A whistleblower says that the United States is hiding a UFO, the size of a football field. This comes on the heels of a video that I saw on Instagram where it said someone in Brazil saw a 10-foot-tall alien on checking out a top of a cliff. Just saying it's all kind of freaky. They're saying that the government's hiding a 12-meter football field. Tartis-like alien craft. That's what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Daily mail. It was 60 people attended a talk in a New York penthouse and probably everybody was high. I don't know. I just feel like somebody would say something. Don't you think so? No, I mean like somebody who like has actual knowledge would say something.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I think the government's disclosed a lot of alien stuff recently. Have they? I wouldn't be surprised. This is true. Yeah, I don't think so. No, they give you like here's and theirs. It's not anything concrete. Okay, so Lanky Extraterestrials.
Starting point is 00:51:50 were filmed by a shocked onlooker in Brazil. Days after the Miami Shadow aliens were spotted. Hmm. They said they look like they're 10 feet tall. They were spotted on a hilltop. And this came out. It was in Brazil. And they said that they moved swiftly.
Starting point is 00:52:05 It's on video. Why is it that they're all, like, all the videos of the aliens, they're all super far away? And they're kind of blurry and grainy and, you know, like you can't actually see anything. Like Bigfoot. It's so goofy.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Like, everybody's got a phone. And I know y'all's cameras are better than that. So why isn't nobody with a decent cameras around whenever any of this comes up? I just feel like I would probably risk my life to get good footage. You know what I'm saying? I just, that's me though. I'd be like, I'm tired of this blurry footage. And then I would just forget all, like, sense of self-preservation.
Starting point is 00:52:36 This was a bad headline. The headline said that Sweden states all citizens must be prepared for war. That's not really what they said. They just said you can't be apathetic. So Robert Salvador, AI polling. This is fascinating. You want real scientific polling because most of it's garbage. Stay tuned.
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Starting point is 00:53:30 It's not exactly surprising that Chris Christie did this. I mean, he hasn't been doing very well. He didn't merit inclusion in the last debate that was held last night. Welcome back to the program, Dana, last year with you, bottom of this second hour. You can listen coast to coast all over the country. You can stream the radio program if you're not listening terrestrily. And then, of course, the video component, the simulcast, Channel 347, direct TV via the first.
Starting point is 00:53:53 You can also find his Facebook, YouTube, everywhere. So what does this do to the primary landscape? Where is his one voter going to go? But where's the support going to go? He's got tens of voters, guys. For real, though, where is his support going to go? Because I feel like he was kind of a spoiler in New Hampshire. But then I look at some of the latest data that's coming out, and I wonder how much I can actually trust it.
Starting point is 00:54:18 because polls by and large, well, I mean, it's an opo. It really is. I mean, so much of it is. You've got these polling firms that work on behalf of campaigns that are hired through third parties and they do it all to influence a narrative.
Starting point is 00:54:30 And you don't know what you can trust and what you can't trust. And then introducing AI, AI is very, I saw this yesterday, and this is, let me just get to it. I saw this yesterday, Robert Salvador, who is head of this, very impressive. He's CEO of Digibild.
Starting point is 00:54:45 It's a top AI company. And he did what I think, think is like the first, I think it is the first AI, like data-driven poll because AI doesn't really care if it's looking for information and it wants to incorporate that in. And I found this absolutely fascinating. And my first thought was, I wonder why more campaigns don't do this. And then my second thought was because that would totally kill the narrative. So Robert Salvador, he's, you can find him on X. He joins us now via Skype. Robert, first off, thank you so much for joining us. And I loved the explainer that you have. And I wanted you to talk about this to the audience,
Starting point is 00:55:20 because this is one of the top things that I hear from people all around the country is, well, can you trust the polls? And the polls say this. And why does this poll seem to completely counter this poll? And it's also subjective. But this, what you have introduced isn't. It's data driven. Yeah, you know, absolutely. You know, one of the things we started looking at earlier this year, you know, as I got kind of closer to the DeSantis campaign and participated in this, election and things like that is these polls are being used to drive a narrative. And they're not being used in the way where the statistics and the math behind them is sound or trustworthy. Just a couple examples, right? You talked about, you know, previous polls. 2016, we were told it is 100% positive.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Donald Trump cannot win. The only thing that was positive was the people putting out the polls didn't want Trump to win. In 2020, we were given those COVID death charts that told us, hey, we have to lock you down because all these statistics are saying people are going to die. So what has happened is, you know, mainstream media and a lot of the left and these different, even on the right now, has weaponized polls and communication just like anything else. So the statistics behind polls make sense, right? I've used this example. If you have a big bowl of skittles of all different colors and you reach in there a couple times and you put a handful on the table, do that, you know, seven or eight or ten times, then you can figure out probability-wise what's probably in the
Starting point is 00:56:44 bigger bowl of skittles, what colors are there. That's just math. The problem is they're trying to apply that to voting and elections and things like that. And there are so many different components and data points and things that make people's voting decision. Now, add that in 2023, it's taboo to talk about who you're going to vote for. So these polls have been used, in my opinion, to kind of misrepresent. And, you know, as another great conservative radio host once said like yourself, Rush Limbaugh, polls are used to suppress the vote. So what we did was we came out with a poll that was more based on data, data points, personality types, and we combine that with an old school traditional methodology. And it's something that we believe is going to be more accurate and includes
Starting point is 00:57:29 more data than what's out there. And so far, so good, we're the only one who said Chris Christie has no support whatsoever and he shouldn't be here. And yesterday we got validated when he dropped out. last thing I'll say is, you know, Des Moines Register had him at 3%. Rofalder had him at 4%. We had him under 1%. So it looks like, you know, early on, this data is more accurate than just kind of blind statistics like is what happens right now with traditional polls. Yeah. And that's a really good point talking with Robert Salvador, CEO of Digibild and he's also been advising the DeSantis campaign on this as well. And then doing these really great data-driven polls. I love the example that you gave of the Skittles. One of the things that you explained to, two is that, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, I might, maybe I interpreted this incorrectly, you can also measure shifting sentiment because one of the things with the colors and the, you know, the skittles is that those aren't going to really change. That's, you know, you can pretty
Starting point is 00:58:24 much, you know, you know, what you're going to get after you figure it out, you know, the, the probability. But with elections, there's so many variables, as you said, and energies can change and momentum can change. Is that, is that accurate to say that you can even kind of gauge shifting sentiment? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, in 2023, we live in a world where people are leaving digital breadcrumbs everywhere we go. Even the most
Starting point is 00:58:48 person who cares about privacy and things like that, your data, your data points about you are being measured everywhere. So when something big happens, you can look at keywords, you could look at sentiment across different language, you could look at posts on, you know, there's a million different types of social
Starting point is 00:59:04 media now. So absolutely, we can measure these trends and see, you know, who's trending in a good direction or who's trending in a bad direction. One of the examples I used is some of the training data that, you know, the machine learning looked at was Governor DeSantis's 2022 governor election victory, where most of the mainstream polls only showed him up a couple points, maybe five, maybe three points. And if you looked at the sentiment around that, it certainly appeared to our method that he would have won by a lot more. So we probably would have put him at 10 or 15 percent ahead. And obviously we all know he won by a wide margin, 20 percent.
Starting point is 00:59:37 So there's just to your point about the Skittles, you can try and guess what the Skittles are, but again, you're just generalizing that math. But if one of the Skittles makes a post and said, I love Red Skittles so much, I'm so happy to be a Red Skittles for life, well, that data point now has given you something with the statistics to make it more accurate. So, I mean, again, the example I use all the time is log on to Amazon Prime. They can tell you about your buying habits better than your own family. You ask you what you want for Christmas. Amazon Prime will tell you down to the memory of the phone.
Starting point is 01:00:12 You're of the camera. So that's what we're trying to use data to just make better assumptions, have more accuracy and be more transparent because that's what this is supposed to be if these things represent democracy. So this one poll that you posted this. I want to make sure I get this day. You posted this January 7th. And it was the first, this AI data and tech driven poll. And it was looking at the primary.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And of course, you still had Christie in here. less than 1%. And you were absolutely validated by that as well. This primary poll from January 1st to the 7th, it had Trump at 40, Desantis at 34, Haley at 16, Ramoswami at 10, and Christie less than 1%. And then the sentiment and activity trend, you had Trump falling, DeSantis rising, Haley falling, Ramoswami rising, and Christy neutral. So it doesn't really seem that Christy's presence or his lack thereof now is really going to change anything. You also noted, too, that there was a, there were a lot of independence in this. How does that impact this as well? Because that's what's really difficult for everybody to kind of gauge. Sure. Yeah. So, you know, the first thing to mention is this was a
Starting point is 01:01:17 beta test, right? So, you know, that's why we kind of open sourced it and we said, hey, give us suggestions and, you know, how can we make this better? So I think one of the things that we did do was poll independence a little bit too high. So we'll adjust that for the next one. The reason we did that was because in order to get the online data, the online sentiment, we wanted to go a bit wider, you know, knowing that very traditional, maybe old school Iowans might not be, might not have as big of a digital presence. So we went a little bit wider to get the training data, because if we can train a word that means, hey, you know, MAGA is the worst, you know, we know that that across the spectrum now means something to other data points. So we did go a little bit wide with
Starting point is 01:01:57 independence because of that. We're going to scale that down for the next one. I mean, I mean, I think it might make a difference a little bit. But remember, Iowa is a same-day registration date. So independents do show up to the caucuses and can change that registration and caucus that same day. So, yeah, that's one of the things that we are going to change. And we're going to release some more data about, you know, how we got to this. One of the things we're trying to show is the traditional methodology, you know, with the, you know, with the errors and, you know, with the waiting and things like that. But we also want to show a way to like kind of represent how.
Starting point is 01:02:30 our algorithm works since it's software-based. So we'll release more information on that as well. But yeah, we're going to put out another poll on the 14th. And yeah, you could see in the trends there that, you know, we thought both DeSantis and the Vecque were rising. And, you know, Haley and DeSantis were, excuse me, Haley and Trump were falling. And then Christy just didn't have much to measure. And that's another reason we were like, people are not voting for this guy.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Yeah. And then this could, I mean, and this all, again, so much is shifting. Even before New Hampshire, we're talking with Robert Salvador. You can find him on X at Robert J. Salvador. And he's talking about this beta test of the first AI data and tech-driven poll because the polls were wrong in 2016. They were wrong in 2018. We were told there was going to be this giant red wave in 2020 that never manifest. And really, 22, same thing.
Starting point is 01:03:17 And it's all the same people. I don't even know why we, it's all the same firms and it's the same people. And it's always reported as, well, maybe this cycle they're going to get it right. But they don't. And some of that, too, Robert, is. Their methods and their approaches are very old school because you got to call people and how many people have landlines anymore and how many people. I mean, it's very, very hard to survey people. I mean, just to get a reliable 500 person sample, you have to cast a net so wide and that's so expensive.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Whereas AI and data actually, I don't think is. Absolutely. So, you know, you bring up an important piece about the collection method. Going back to that Skittles example, in order to make the measurement of how many types of skittles are in that big bowl, you have to have a, good random sample. You can't be biased in your sample. You can't pick up more reds on purpose than oranges, right? And so to your point, these old school pollsters or the traditional pollsters continue to use landlines and cold calling. And again, both from a data perspective, no one answers that. And from just a subjective kind of taboo perspective, no one tells strangers who they're going to
Starting point is 01:04:23 vote for in 2023. So even in the collection method, we used more technology. So we used a combination of automated calls, text messages, social media outreach, and even incentivized opt-in to try and get a wider spread that was more accurate. And to your point, so I'll give an example that just came out last night. So we had the debate where obviously DeSantis performed very well. I mean, no one in the right mind can say DeSantis is really falling the way, you know, polls try and say. Suffolk University came out today, a day after the debate last night and said DeSantis is going down and Haley is going up. Now it's important to remember, they are looking in the back in the past because they would have had to collect this data over a couple weeks and then clean it and do all that stuff. So again,
Starting point is 01:05:08 see how that's being used in the media. They didn't say, hey, this snapshot is from a week or two ago and isn't going to impact what you think about the debate last night because it doesn't take into account that data. No, they released it the next day. All of these mainstream outlets run with it and you're looking at bad biased data. To your point, they keep calling the same people on the same list, even just the people who would answer that phone call would be a bias to the data set. It's usually older white women in Iowa, you know, you typically, you know, 60 or above, maybe even older, who are answering those phone calls and might be willing to say, hey, you know, here's who I'm voting for. So just that demographic and segment alone is biasing the data set.
Starting point is 01:05:50 If it's only older white women that answer the call, your data set's already biased. And so that's why tech and a combination of these type of polls can and will be way more accurate. And we're really excited to introduce this because outside of the primary, no matter who wins, Republicans need this to even keep up with the Democrats who have this in states. Because at some point, I feel like polls stop being a good measure of voter sentiment to be useful tools to correct and guide campaigns. And they became just like tools of info warfare and narrative farming. That's what it seems like, which then makes me wonder, you know, these are these people that run these first. firms in the existing polling firms now. I mean, this is a cash cow for them. This is a whole
Starting point is 01:06:29 cottage industry. These gatekeepers, they're not going to want the competition of something that's truly data-driven. Yeah, no one has reposted us. So besides you, you know, big influencers and people from the Republican Party, none of these pollsters, none of the aggregators online have reposted us. That poll that you're looking at has almost 350,000 views. It's gotten reshared, you know, across Twitter millions of times. It was just proven right with Chris Christie yesterday. Not one single mainstream pollster has acknowledged it whatsoever, but then today they post that Suffolk poll that's absolute nonsense. And so you're right, they're lying with statistics. There is a book called how a lie with statistics. And unfortunately, we're learning that across society,
Starting point is 01:07:11 just like we learned during COVID, where the NIH and the FDA, the trade people of their trust, these pollsters are doing the same thing. Notice that no one is coming out with new polls now. all of a sudden that it's being measured the last three weeks, they stopped coming out with new polls almost across the board. So it's definitely a conspiracy. Yeah, an establishment one for sure. Robert Salvador, we'd love to have you back. I find this fascinating. And I think it's a true measure. Well, I mean, it is a true measure. I don't think it is. It is very data-driven. I'd love to have you back, though, to talk more, especially after you come out with more on the 14th. Thank you so much for doing this and for joining us today. Yeah, happy too, Dana. Thanks for everything you do as well.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Of course. Thanks so much. It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida man. So I have a million different Florida men's here. Like, for instance, I got to share this one first. Some people got into a fight over an uncut foot long. It's a real story.
Starting point is 01:08:14 This is over at the messenger had this. And this was sent to me by Florida woman Amber, who loved sending me some of the craziest Florida stories. A man in Florida was charged with battery. He got mad at a subway sandwich shop. Albert DeBarros,
Starting point is 01:08:29 ordered a sandwich. This was, yeah, it was on Tuesday. But he was upset when he got the sandwich, and he realized it had not been sliced in half. And so he went in the store, lost his mind. He decided the correct way to handle this was to take said sandwich and throw it at the sandwich maker's head. And then he left, and then the sandwich maker followed him outside, photographed his license plate. He was tracked down by police. and he said that he was upset over his sandwich not being cut,
Starting point is 01:09:01 but he meant to hit the counter with his sandwich instead of the sandwich maker. But the store surveillance, I know, he's such a liar because the store surveillance showed him taking the sandwich and literally directing it right straight at her head. So he was arrested charge with battery over a sandwich. A thousand dollar bond he posted. He's going to be arraigned on February 1st. It's the dumbest thing ever. Do you know what happens if you get a sandwich that's not cut? Cut your sandwich.
Starting point is 01:09:23 I mean, now you got to go to court, you genius. Good grief. It's so stupid. Yeah, you can just eat it. I mean, it's not difficult. Good grief. Let's see. This, oh, man. One Florida woman hurled mac and cheese and pickled sausages at a store. One guy got hit by it in the face of the Pelican. Oh, my gosh. Then there was a central Florida man that found a stroll and trailer using his Apple Air tag. Shakira had a stalker arrested. I'm going to have to get to this tomorrow. But we have our third hour on the way. Congressman Chiproy is going to join us later. Don't miss. around the nation. They're blocking tunnels, they're blocking roads. Why aren't they protesting when will we get to hostages back home? Why aren't they protesting Hamas? Why aren't they
Starting point is 01:10:13 protesting systemic rape and torture of Israeli women and children? I'll never get it. We can't really, until we get every last one brought. Every last one of them are in my walls or my office. I encourage you anything you want to stop high. You can see that. Wow. Wow. That's John Fetterman saying some really obvious stuff right here.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Wow. I'm amazed at that. That is, he's asking people, why aren't they protesting Hamas? Kane, I don't know what to do anymore with this. First off, let's welcome everybody back because there are like, why is he, why are we agreeing with him? What's happening here? You didn't fall into the upside down.
Starting point is 01:11:09 We don't know what's happening either. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lashire with you, top of this third hour. Joining us later on, Congressman Chip Roy. That was Senator John Fetterman. I don't know why he's making sense, y'all. This is the second time in five days. Kane is my perception of reality is being shattered right now.
Starting point is 01:11:35 It seems real. I mean, you and I are both experiencing it in real time. This is, it's eye-opening. To have two now moderate Democrats in the Senate? But he's like going further than even Manchin does with this stuff. That's what, that's why I'm on the struggle bus. When he was elected. Did you see that coming in 2020 when he was elected?
Starting point is 01:12:00 No. I mean, I've already given him a hoodie pass. Come on, man. I don't know what else I can. I mean, I don't, no, you're right. I'm not going to criticize him for wearing a hoodie anymore because I feel like, you know, he's stocking it to the right people. So I'm going to look at it.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I'm going to overlook it. Although I did have a reader telling me that they would agree with me on that, but that Steelers hat's got to go. I, and Democrats, as I said, they can't go after him. This literally was yesterday. They can't go after him for this because why do you hate people with strokes or who had them not that he still possesses it but you know what I mean why do you hate them I I don't know I'm fascinated by this in the meantime can we please now
Starting point is 01:12:45 audio send by 22 I've been waiting for this one because we've been talking all about the primary all this stuff we need to have this little convo about Dr. Jill but sorry not Dr. Jill Jill Mrs. Jill Biden she's defending infant baby hunter guys sweet little infant baby hunter Listen. How have you been coping personally with the onslaught of accusations against your husband and your family, including and especially Hunter? It's the focus of a House Oversight Committee hearing, holding him in contempt, obsessing over him, showing picture of him during vulnerable moments in this battle with addiction on the floor of the house. This would crush any family. Mika, I think what they are doing to Hunter is cruel. and I'm really proud of how Hunter has rebuilt his life after addiction. You know, I love my son, and it's hurt my grandchildren.
Starting point is 01:13:43 And that's what I'm so concerned about, that it's affecting their lives as well. She wasn't worried about her grandkids and having their lives affected when their dad was out there snorting blow off Hooker's backsides. but it's only because the photos came out in relation to an investigation because he was using money that he probably the Burisma money and money that he got paid off from China Chinese companies, the CCP, for merging out his dad's VP office and presidential ambitions and using that to pay for these things. And then the fact that it's being reported on because it came up in an investigation, that's so damaging to those cats. but not like his actions of actually snorting the blow off the hooker's backside, just the fact that it came out in an investigation. You know what? She's the type of mom who's like, I don't care if they drink.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Just stew it in the house. That's her. You know it is. I'm the cool mom. That's her. She is so that. I don't care if you drink. Just steward in the house.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Okay. That's Jill Biden. That's Jill. Poor baby. Why are you like talking about him, Kane? Why you talk? It's so cruel to talk about baby hunter. You're hurting his kids. Just seizing and pouncing on him.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Pounce and seize, seize and pounce. What's the matter with you? I'm trying to get all the silly stuff out of the way first because we've got to talk about some of the other pevy stuff again. I do want to touch on one other quick cultural thing, identity politics. Where did I say this was from? I put it in audio. because it rendered me momentarily senseless.
Starting point is 01:15:31 It was so stupid audibly. It's the choir that was singing all the... So it's this choir of... I don't know how to put... How would I put this? What's the best way I could use to describe this? The all souls, choir. The all souls?
Starting point is 01:15:50 Yeah. So this group, they... It's some kind of unitarian. church. I roll. I said it. I don't feel bad for saying that. I'll say it again louder. But it's a it's a politically, uh, DEI. It's like DEI church essentially. This is what this is. And they decided to do a, uh, uh, political, uh, I don't, how would you describe this? How would seriously? It's so weird. I just, no one asked for this.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Let everyone experience it for themselves. We had to listen to this. So now you guys do too. We got to share the burden, guys. Lift each other's burdens up, right? That's what this year's all about. Listen, this is horrible. I'm not, oh, gosh, this is so bad.
Starting point is 01:16:44 It's called identity politics. I already hate it. They're really forcing that. On where we were called. They're rights to put in where they're born. Our rights keep pet. Families are right.
Starting point is 01:17:11 The mirror is so bad. Valid ID. Valid ID. Oh, man. Somebody to explain. Oh, man. Somebody that explains our gender. I cannot even believe this.
Starting point is 01:17:29 This is so bad. If you wonder whether I wondered whether or not they're all old white people, all old white socialists. You're right. Ding, ding, ding. You don't win anything except the joy of being right. It's, I don't even know how I can't. Can I be honest with you?
Starting point is 01:17:51 Yeah, go ahead. When you put this in Slack, I clicked on it yesterday and heard it and thought this was a joke. heard it and thought this was a joke. This was something that a comedy troupe was doing. For like the entire, almost the entire video, until towards the end, I was like, wait a minute. They're serious. Yeah, this is totally unironic.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Wow. And the woman is wearing what looks like a towel who's leading it. I don't know what that is. That Mrs. Roper dress. I don't know what that is. It is one of the worst things I've ever heard. heard and they're making the word they're forcing the words the meter so bad valid idelid i do oh my gosh i can't deal if you thought hill song was bad wait until you hear these people a hoi said that do
Starting point is 01:18:43 oh okay i meant to cleanse your palate but instead i just ruined it i'm sure so some of the other things we're hitting because uh we've got coming up we've got um congressman chip roy i got yes yes yes there's all the primary stuff but what's happening in the house with the spending bills? So if you get my email prep, if you get my newsletter, chapter and verse, lots of good stuff that comes out, Republicans are pretty mad. Because this $1.6 trillion spending plan, apparently it killed the advancement of other bills. And now we're looking in what, is it eight days now, nine days? Another shutdown, which you knew this was coming. The other thing was temporary. And a lot of people are questioning whether or not Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House,
Starting point is 01:19:34 Well, I mean, he's as moderate as McCarthy was. So there's no big conservative get here. But they're saying that he is not able to actually shepherd any kind of anything through and that they're going to, the same thing that we just saw happen a couple of months ago is going to happen again. And we're going to talk to him about that and dive into all of that. Now, in the meantime, a few other audio soundbates here, I made mention during the primary when I was on social media. why is it that candidates, when they're caught on video saying things, they turn on and say that they didn't say them? Like for instance, one of the things last night, I'm going to go to Audio Soundbite 14, Haley was asked about, and was kind of, they were holding her to account for some of the things that she had said regarding immigration, because she's not the strongest.
Starting point is 01:20:27 and I just want to play this flashback, Audio Sumbach, 14, because she says it's a lie to say that she said this. Listen. But let's keep in mind, these people that are wanting to come here, they want to come for a better life too. They have kids too. They have a heart too. So we don't need to be disrespectful. We don't need to talk about them as criminals. They're not.
Starting point is 01:20:52 They're families that want a better life and they're desperate to get here. Okay, so you can still do that the legal way. She also said that it was a lie that she ever said this. Audio sound by 13. She says it's a lie to say that she said this. Madam Ambassador, another question is what care should be on the table when a 12-year-old child in this country assigned female at birth says, actually, I feel more comfortable living as a boy.
Starting point is 01:21:17 What should the law allow the response to be? I think the law should stay out of it, and I think parents should handle it. So if I want to make my child bulimic, I think the law should stay out of it and the parents should handle it. Seriously? But you can't say that she said that because it's demeaning to her. She actually said that in the debate last night. And then she could not explain, audio sound by 12. This was a flashback of when she was asked, again, it's a lie that she struggled to defend this.
Starting point is 01:21:50 That was one of the things that she made mention of last night. she couldn't explain at any point why she it was a word set it was like Kamala Harris level word salad talking about bathrooms listen to this audio somebody 12 flashback so do you think Senator Brightsville is unnecessary then I don't believe it's necessary because I think if you look at everything that we've had happen there's not one instance that I'm aware of
Starting point is 01:22:16 I look at South Carolina and we're like I said a state where we don't have to mandate respect And I think that that's something that we have seen play out. And with that bill in 1999, we're not hearing any issues of religious liberty violations or anything else. And so I think we're... So she was that bill specifically was about keeping men out of women's bathrooms. And she didn't think it was... She didn't think it was necessary.
Starting point is 01:22:39 So that was brought up. And she said, oh, that's a lie. You're demeaning me. That's a lie that that was said. But it's not. I mean, you're literally on video saying all of these things. So you're... Are we liars?
Starting point is 01:22:52 because we heard you say what you said. Like, that doesn't make any sense. I don't understand. People remember this stuff. Coming up, we've got headlines. And the latest with, oh, boy, that spending bill in the house, you don't want to miss because they're kicking the canned on the road again. We're going to get all the deets from Chip Roy. And now, all of the news you would probably miss.
Starting point is 01:23:13 It's time for Dana's Quick Five. Oh, man, this is bad. Over 130 pounds of kilbasa sold nationwide, recalled. for possible contaminants? 130,000 pounds right there. Uh-huh. That's crazy. They said that if you're wanting to have a Polish meal night, be careful about woka
Starting point is 01:23:31 kilbasa you use. Apparently they said that Psalm Partners of Denmark, Wisconsin is recalling 133,000, 39 pounds of ready to eat turkey kilbasa products that may be contaminated with extraneous materials, like bone fragments. They said that it's the Parkview Turkey Polska kilbasa is what it is. uh sir you might want to check your stuff if you got them polish sausages uh man oscar meyer is sausage party oscar mire is hiring a full-time wiener-mobile driver you could drive the giant hot dog they're opening 12 full-time driving positions they're it's the hot dogger gig they say and you have to have you have to have a bachelor's degree in public relations this is so stupid
Starting point is 01:24:22 that's dumb. That's really dumb. You're driving a giant weiner around town. Really? Really? What are you getting paid? They said that they, public relations, similar fields, blah, blah, blah. I don't even know what the average. What is it going to be? They said you could get a weekly allowance, base salaries 35,000. Really? Seriously. This sounds, is this a trick? Sounds so stupid. Let's see here. Oh, I don't really want to talk about this one. It's the sea creature. It's an Aussie fisherman. It's, I don't know what it is. It's a weird-looking thing. They say it's called a sea pen, right? It looks like an, it's an alien.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Let's just put it that way. It looks so bad. A semi-truck spilled frozen pizza onto I-90 and East. from Washington. That's so bad. I love frozen pizza. I like all. I mean,
Starting point is 01:25:26 I like homemade pizza the best. I like all pizza. He was carrying frozen pizzas. What kind, though? It better not be the tootinos, which I literally until last year I thought was toastinos. And it's not. It's tootinos.
Starting point is 01:25:36 There's no like us in the beginning of that. Congressman Chip Roy joins us next. Stay with us. Elevate your commute, workouts, or downtime with the Dana Show podcast. Unleash the power of knowledge at your fingertips by following Dana on Apple. Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:25:54 The president has put forth over $10 billion to assist at the border. We've always been for controlling our border, for securing the border. There's never been a question about that. But how it is done, how we honor our values in terms of asylum seekers and the rest, but also how we have order there. Nobody believes that. That's Nancy Pelosi, because this big board. fight with spending in the in the house.
Starting point is 01:26:23 This is like one of the hot topics in addition to the primary, which we're going to talk about. But Nancy Pelosi saying that Democrats have always been for it. It's been a matter of how. No. They just don't want to do it. Joining us on this, he is like one of the biggest border busters out there. Congressman Chip Roy from the wonderful Republic of Texas. He joins us and he still has like the best corner of an office I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:26:46 And of course, you know, playing Stevie Ray Vaughney's got awesome music right there by him. Congressman, it's good to see you. I just wanted to get like your your initial reaction to that because this is a big fight that Republicans are having with themselves. And then of course, then they have to dispel these Democrat narratives that, well, no, Democrats, it was just a, it's just a debate Congressman as to how we want to do it. They're so committed. Yeah, Danny, good to be on. And yeah, real quick. That intro is Stevie Ray Vaughn. All you're doing is making me want to sit around and listen to Good Blues music and Steve Yorra and have a beer rather than that talk about misery that is the swamp failing America. And by the way, right here on this poster, that's Jimmy Vaughn right there. I know, I saw it. And Jimmy, for those don't know, is Steve Ray's brother and is a, you know, accomplished guitarist himself and a good guy and a constituent, by the way. He lives in the district I represent.
Starting point is 01:27:35 So look, the border, we had a hearing this morning, immigration subcommittee hearing and the judiciary committee. And a chief of police from Eagle Pass was there. And he was talking about how it's costing them about $17,000 a day to take. in the calls, 65% of the calls that are coming in are from or about illegal. And that means a bunch of Americans aren't able to get through. They're left out. They can't get through at EMS.
Starting point is 01:28:00 I could go down a laundry list of things you and I both know. And you just played that clip from Nancy Pelosi saying, oh, well, we've always known the problem. We've been trying to solve this problem. That is garbage, okay? Since I've been on the Hill, I've been here now for five years, two years I spent on the oversight committee and then now three on the judiciary. And during that time, they have used the phrase manufactured crisis. They sat there and they would deny it. They'd go to the floor. They'd say in the committees, you're making this up.
Starting point is 01:28:24 This is not true. There's not a real crisis. And the fact is, we've all been seeing the crisis. The only drop in the crisis was briefly at the end of President Trump's tenure when they implemented, remained in Mexico and Title 4200 COVID. We've had a massive crisis that's undermining our security and safety. And God bless Governor Abbott for what they're doing now in implementing this law in Texas and pushing back with DPS. I just saw some report today that they're taking.
Starting point is 01:28:49 action and taking over as activities under emergency orders in Eagle Pass. And look, there is no distance the governor can go under the law, you know, within using his powers under normal, you know, rules of engagement to make sure we secure and defend Texas that I won't support. He should go as far as he needs to because the federal government is letting him and us down. Yeah, very much so. Talking with Congressman Chip Roy. And that's, tell me a little bit about just the fight that I, and I get that some of this is just legacy press that's trying to bait Republicans in a more inter-party conflict. But there's a lot of, um, had that. about questions related to Mike Johnson's leadership as speaker and that he doesn't have,
Starting point is 01:29:25 I guess, the political capital to shepherd through what needs to be done with regards to any kind of compromise, any kind of, because I know we got what another, it was eight days, nine days now that we're going to be facing this other shutdown stuff. What is the truth of that? I mean, I know it's still kind of new in his speakership, but, you know, a lot of people are asking questions. And he's, I mean, he's, he's not a bad guy. He's not like, he doesn't have your record. There's a difference. Well, look, Mike Johnson is a friend, and I want to be very clear.
Starting point is 01:29:55 He was dealt a very tough hand. I want to be fair about that, right? The speaker got vacated. I didn't support the vacate move, and I got pilloried from the right for that. One of the reasons that didn't support it was because when you got you're in the middle of the game and you pull the coach in the third quarter of all the players you've got to look around
Starting point is 01:30:11 going, what are we do now? So guess what's happening right now? Everybody's looking around going what do we do now? And the speaker is trying to do his best. And tough environment. However, I'm also not an excuse guy. The American people gave Republicans the majority to deliver. We're having, you know, yesterday you may have seen the news. We took down the rule yesterday. That inflames, you know, the anger from the usual suspects in town and they go, what are you doing? You're the chaos party. No, we came here not to just pass bills to campaign on.
Starting point is 01:30:40 We came here to cut spending, secure the border, deliver on the promises we made. We are not doing that right now. We are capitulating to the swamp. right now. And that's not just Mike. I want to be very clear. Mike reflects the conference. The conference is not where it needs to be. Okay. I hear all this stuff like, well, Chip, not everybody's you, not everybody's in the freedom caucus, not everybody's from Texas. I don't give a damn, okay? We run as Republicans and we're supposed to actually deliver. And every single one of these Republicans, even in the bluish district, are campaigning on border security. They're campaigning on constraining, spending, and ending inflation. So don't come here and give me your
Starting point is 01:31:18 crap when you then put down in support a bill that's $1.66 trillion, blows the caps, is above Nancy Pelosi's spending levels, and doesn't secure the board. I said on CNN yesterday of all the places, I said, I'd be willing to accept a spending cut bill if we triggered the caps that didn't address border security to my liking right out of the gate if it meant we could accomplish something for the people by cutting the bureaucracy. On the flip side, I would eat spending I don't love to get a border security package that actually secures the border. I just want to deliver on something. One dang thing.
Starting point is 01:31:54 And I gave that speech before Thanksgiving. All my colleagues said, oh, my God, Democrats are running that clip saying, Republicans haven't delivered. I said, you know the best solution to that? Deliver. Yeah, don't talk about them not delivering. Deliver. Just do your job talking with Congressman Chip Roy.
Starting point is 01:32:10 This was one of the things that you brought up to. And you gave an interview. I actually retweeted it. I feel like it's kind of like New Year, New Congressman Roy Energy because you went on this laundry list you weren't unnecessarily bashing the former president at all. I think as voters
Starting point is 01:32:28 and I always tell people this, I don't believe in a monarchy. That's why we have a Republican and why we have these processes. And I also think that it is our right and responsibility to question, you know, lawmakers and say, why wasn't this done when you promised this and it wasn't done? You made a point about taxing remittances to Mexico as a way to subsidize.
Starting point is 01:32:45 the border. And you said this could have been done and it wasn't done under the previous administration. Talk to me about that. Well, remember a number of things. Let me first say for the audience out there and they know your position in mind and support a governor to Santis. You and I both. I mean, I supported Ted Cruz in the primary, but I supported governor, I supported President Trump in 16. I supported him in 2020. I'll support him if he's the nominee. But look, what you do matters. Your record matters. And let's take them in series, the border. The former president said he would sign an executive of order that would end birthright citizenship. That never happened over four years. He said he would build the wall, have Mexico pay for it. Well, we built a lot of the wall, credit to some of my
Starting point is 01:33:25 friends in the agency fighting to get money over a Cal Street Congress, but it was only 50 miles. And by the way, we never got Mexico to pay for it. So to your point. Governor DeSantis has pointed out, and I have two. You could tax all the remittances of the dollars that go overseas, and it would yield billions of dollars to pay for the wall. You could literally have Mexico and Mexicans pay for the But how about the bill that we messed up in 2018 when the former president cited with Paul Ryan and the Chamber of Commerce. And that was the amnesty bill, correct? Correct.
Starting point is 01:33:53 It's the Chamber of Commerce Wall Street Journal preferred big amnesty less security bill. The Freedom Caucus with Ron DeSantis in it supported the other bill, which was very little amnesty and more security. That bill got more votes. The president's bill got fewer votes. Leadership matters. The president campaigned on getting reigned of Obamacare, came in, spent the first. week in office talking about the crowd size on the mall that was a fail he didn't get
Starting point is 01:34:19 Obamacare passed he allowed it to get messed up by Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan and let John McCain do the thumbs down now I know it's hard to move stuff through Congress but that's an excuse it's hard to get stuff through the Florida legislature but ronda santis has found a way he found a way to win by a million and a half votes he found a way to win 62 percent of Hispanic voters he find a way to lead by sending a plane full of illegal immigrants to Martha's vineyard he find a way to get universal school choice. He found a way to pass a heartbeat bill. He found a way to stand with cops. He found a way to fire George Soros DAs. He found a way to challenge Disney and win against the corporate woke crowd. I can keep going. I can play this game all day long. So leadership matters. Governor Sanders has delivered.
Starting point is 01:35:00 I think former President Trump did some good things, but left a lot on the table. Yeah. And to that point, talking with Congressman Chip Roy, you know, the issue in leadership, you mentioned executive order, you got to be able to shepherd some of this stuff and get in lead Congress and and have them actually make this stuff into law or have a because if something is done by executive order, it can be undone by an executive order. My gosh, we already saw that with Biden. Like the first month of his, you know, of this term, we already saw him undoing a whole bunch of EOs from under former President Trump. I mean, that's important as well, but it's, it's a lot harder. So it takes leadership. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:35:40 And I think that we saw on display last night in the comparison between Governor DeSantis and Governor Niki Haley, right? I mean, Governor DeSantis has delivered across the board. You got Governor Haley coming in and dumping millions of dollars against Governor DeSantis in Iowa, which is, I think, a mistake. And as, you know, frankly, out of bounds when you consider the extent to which she has not done her job to respect Iowans when she went to New Hampshire. And she said, oh, you guys in New Hampshire will have to correct whatever Iowa does. What did she mean by that? You know, and what did she mean when she said that she was proud of having not supported the bill in South Carolina to make sure that boys couldn't be in a girls' bathroom in schools.
Starting point is 01:36:16 When she said she'd be happy for Disney to move to South Carolina after Governor DeSantis was challenging Disney, right? When she was making decisions in the U.N., she didn't do anything to stop $12.5 billion funding the U.N. While they were funding unrun, the dollars going to the Palestinians in Amaz. Meanwhile, she said, hey, why don't all you people over there in Gaza potentially aligned with Hamas? Come on over the United States. She said that in December. I can go down a lottery list of things. Leadership matters and decisions matter.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Governor DeSantis has been there every step of the way. I hope he'll nominate him. I hope he wins in Iowa on Monday. You know, I'll keep working hard for him and we'll see what happens. It's up to the people of Iowa, not polls. Yeah, that's a very good point. Yeah, we were just talking about polls. Had a really interesting AI data-driven poll last hour.
Starting point is 01:36:58 Yeah, I mean, and it's, yeah, we'll see what happens. Monday, though, it's the big day. Congressman Chip Roy, we appreciate all your work, and especially advocating for everybody who's so tired of this stuff at the border. and being on afraid to be like, look, you got to call the balls and strikes as they are. So we appreciate that. Thank you so much. Good to see you.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Happy New Year's too. Thanks, thank you. Of course. We have more to come, folks, as we wrap up this third hour of our broadcasts. And that's, you know, Monday, of course, we're going to pregame. We're going to post game. We're going to have the wrap up on Tuesday and we're going to set the table for New Hampshire going into it. But, you know, I'll just caution you.
Starting point is 01:37:31 I'll just, not caution you. I'll tell you again. I'm not going to tell you who to vote for. I just tell you where I stand and why, because I feel like that's important. to be transparent. And I'm also not going to pretend that you're stupid and try to act like I'm going to triangulate and play all the sides like I see so many people do because they do so disingenuously. And I think that's why a lot of people digitally struggle. So we're not going to do that. You can agree with me or not agree with me. But one thing that you can always count on is I call
Starting point is 01:37:57 balls and strikes every single time. It doesn't make me popular with the establishment. It never has. And I've never sought their opinion on anything good or otherwise. So, Just know that. I am for the interest of, well, I share interest with voters. I'm for our interests in the interest of the country because politicians come and go, but our principals stay. And that's what's the constant. Follow Dana on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts, because knowledge is your
Starting point is 01:38:27 ultimate superpower. But if you go back and look at the records, you will see that the biggest fan of Dr. Fauci was Ron De Sanctimonious. He was a big fan. He said, I go. by exactly quote. I go by what Dr. Fauci said. He said that two months in all the
Starting point is 01:38:44 way through and then eventually changed when it wasn't, you know, that wasn't the dessert of the day. But Rhonda Sanctez was a big Dr. Fauci fan and nobody wants to cover that. I say it every time. Well, actually, I think we have all talked about it. In fact, we talked about how when the
Starting point is 01:39:00 science came out, that was the first state along with Kemp and Georgia to say, well, let's start reopening because some of the stuff isn't making sense. And I played at the start of the hour the times when Trump was criticizing him for that. Trump took to the cameras and was criticizing those governors for not following the edicts of the White House coronavirus task force. I mean, we played it at the start of the hour. So when he realized, because nobody knew what was going on, everybody had such limited information with this thing.
Starting point is 01:39:34 But the moment that science became clear. and he and Kemp and I think what like another governor reopened and said no no wait what DeSantis had to fight too was there were different county commissioners and mayors like Miami Beach that wanted to keep their areas closed and that's when they had the executive order barring them from doing stuff and then legislature passed something so that's how they ended that because they still had that fight even after it. But he was criticized by the president repeatedly, not just him, but other governors that followed suit, for not following along with the edict. And it wasn't DeSantis that gave Faucian award when he could have been pardoning J6 people. That was Trump.
Starting point is 01:40:20 You can get mad at me for saying this, but then I questioned, then if we're not allowed to hold politicians accountable, then are we really actually advocating for the good of our nation? Or are we, or is this nation exist and all of its voters to serve one politician? That's a completely fair question to ask. And I don't feel like asking that betrays someone's conservative record, which is miles thicker than a lot of the other people out there saying otherwise. I feel like these are completely fair things to ask. I mean, especially when some of us had kids that were shut inside the house and missed out on two years of education. And some of us had, although, we know, we were previous homeschool or so. We kind of reverted back to some stuff. But that was
Starting point is 01:41:03 tough for a lot of families when people lost their businesses and their livelihoods. Florida wasn't one of the states that was arresting people like nail techs. That was Texas. So, you know, I just, I think that you need to be, and there was no pushback on that, neither from Brett Baer or Martha McCallum. And I was incredibly disappointed to see that. That was not the same as a debate. That was a fan club. That wasn't an ironing, sharpening iron. There was no pushback on that at all whatsoever. And I was really disappointed to see that. Again, is this for the sake of the country or just one politician? I just want to know.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Is it the United States of America or the United States is something else? I don't know. But I say that because these are questions that are worth asking. And I think we're not going to retcon stuff. We don't allow Biden to do it. We're not going to allow anybody to do it. I remember that distinctly. I had friends who left the state and literally moved to Florida.
Starting point is 01:42:00 They came back after everything began opening up in Texas, but they relocated to Florida. with their whole families because it was open. While the coronavirus task force with the former president, they were blasting these leaders saying, oh, you shouldn't open, you're going to get people killed. I mean, that's one of the things he actually said. All right, today's stupidity came. All right, it is the press secretary,
Starting point is 01:42:22 Carri Jean-Pierre. I'm pronouncing that, right? Big farmer. I just thought she's up there lying all the time, but maybe she's just misinformed. I have no idea, but this is the year she thinks January 6th happened. Listen to this. On the eve ahead of January 6, what we saw in 2011 on January 6th,
Starting point is 01:42:42 2011? 2011? 2011? Does she know what's happening? I guess she got the 9-11. You know, it's worse than 9-11 mixed up with the J-6 and then it just... Between Big Farmer, Nordstrom Pipeline, Emeritus, good heavens. The pronunciation of this party.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Folks, that does it for us this evening. Make sure you send it for the newsletter, chapter and verse over at Substack. Have a great night. I'll be back behind them. with you tomorrow.

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