The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Trump Takes South African Refugees, A Smooth Saudi Speech & Sen. Rand Paul Joins Us

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

President Trump speaks from Saudi Arabia urging for the Saudis to join the Abraham Accords on their “own time”. Dana breaks down the body language during Trump’s meeting. The left finally finds ...refugees they don’t like as Trump allows South Africans to seek refugee status in the US. Pope Leo's brother, Louis Prevost, who has posted controversial views before, says he's planning on toning it down when it comes to social media. The Episcopal Church announces that it is terminating its partnership with the government to resettle refugees after Trump’s South African move. President & Executive Director of American Suppressor Association, Knox Williams, joins us on Congress' inability to fix the unconstitutional NFA tax scheme. Dana resurfaces footage of a South African political party rallying to commit genocide against white farmers. MSNBC says the Afrikaners have become “the darling of these right wing, white supremacist movements around the world”. Sen. Rand Paul joins us to reveal what is in the “Big, Beautiful Bill”, reconciliation, the deal with China and much more.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Relief Factorhttps://relieffactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Goldcohttps://DanaLikesGold.com My personal gold company - get your GoldCo 2025 Gold & Silver Kit. PLUS, you could qualify for up to 10% in BONUS silver.Byrnahttps://byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana receive 10% off. Patriot Mobilehttps://patriotmobile.com/DanaDana’s personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANA.HumanNhttps://humann.comSupport your metabolism and healthy blood sugar levels with Superberine by HumanN. Find it now at your local Sam’s Club next to SuperBeets Heart Chews.  KelTechttps://KelTecWeapons.comSee the third generation of the iconic SUB2000 and the NEW PS57 - Keltec Innovation & Performance at its best.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/DanaCode Dana10 for 10% off your entire order.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DanaWith your help, we can hit the goal of 1,000 ultrasounds this month! Just dial #250 and say “Baby”. Ancient Nutritionhttp://ancientnutrition.com/DanaCollagen and wellness, powered by Ancient Nutrition—get 25% off your first order with promo code DANA.Home Title Lockhttps://hometitlelock.com/danaProtect your home! Get a FREE title history report + 14 days of coverage with code DANA. Check out the Million Dollar TripleLock—terms apply.Ground Newshttps://Groundnews.com/DANAGet 40% off the unlimited access Vantage plan.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So POTUS right now is speaking at a forum. It's a free market forum that's being held in Riyadh. And he arrived about, well, I mean, technically yesterday. It's the Saudi U.S. investment forum. He's speaking there along with, I mean, obviously you have the Muhammad bin Salman, who's the MBS, the head of Saudi Arabia, the Crown Prince. You have, I'm trying to think of the number of, you have a lot of big companies that are there, including the Black Rock. you got them there as well. But it is a very interesting speech that POTUS is giving. And we're going to isolate one part of it that came about maybe a minute or two minutes before what you just heard. It's only delayed by a few minutes. And I thought it was very smart because POTUS is up there. And clearly you can tell that he has a really good relationship with MBS. We'll call him MBS for short. and he got up there. And when he was speaking, he immediately, he went in very, you know, segued into the Abraham Accords and the importance of Saudi Arabia signing on to the Abraham Accords,
Starting point is 00:01:15 which they have indicated that they are open to doing. And I thought that was very interesting that he did that in Riyadh, in front of Muhammad bin Salman and all of these other. dignitaries and leaders that are there. And it's very, very, it's very interesting. He got a very warm welcome, which is, I mean, and we're going to talk about this. I can't even discuss how different it is from what Joe Biden got. So we're going to discuss all of that.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Welcome to the program. We're at the top of this first hour. And we may dive back. in just in and out of this address. Trump, it's a major speech that he's making. And I think some of the most important sound bites we've already, we've already nabbed, including Kane found the one that, I mean, it just happened. He snipped the one that I was just referencing because I thought that was incredibly,
Starting point is 00:02:14 it was an incredibly important aspect because also, I mean, you have to remember, for some reason, Biden as like a continuation of Obama Biden was, so much, like, more inclined towards Iran. And you know, you have the Shia-Suni conflict, was so much more inclined towards Iran to the point where it was detrimental to our relationship with Saudi Arabia. And I think you will remember when Biden went to Saudi Arabia hat in hand after he had insulted Muhammad bin Salman and the other, other leaders in Saudi Arabia. And after he insulted them and called him names, essentially, and then they told him to go pound sand over the price of crude. Now look, now look at the difference in reception.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And we're going to talk a little bit about the changes that have undergone that Saudi Arabia has undergone. It is a very different nation than what it was 10 years ago. And it sounds weird for a lot of us to, for some people to say that or to even realize it. But there has been a major shift in direction in that country. And we're going to discuss that because it's all playing right now, honestly, in the United States's favor. So again, welcome. This is the soundbite that I was referencing. I think that this was one of the biggest ones. Can we play that? Yeah. And with the historic Abraham Accords that was so proud of, all the momentum was aimed at peace. And it aimed very successfully. It's been an amazing thing, the Abraham Accords. And it
Starting point is 00:03:57 It's my fervent hope, wish, and even my dream that Saudi Arabia, a place I have such respect for, especially over the last fairly short period of time, what you've been able to do, but we'll soon be joining the Abraham Accords. I think it'll be a tremendous tribute to your country, and it will be something that's really going to be very important for the future of the Middle East. I took a risk in doing them, and they've been an absolute bonanza for the countries that have joined, The Biden administration did nothing for four years. We would have had it filled out.
Starting point is 00:04:32 But it will be a special day in the Middle East with the whole world watching when Saudi Arabia joins us. And you'll be greatly honoring me and you'll be greatly honoring all of those people that have fought so hard for the Middle East. And I really think it's going to be something special. But you'll do it in your own time. And that's what I want. And that's what you want. And that's the way it's going to be. That's key.
Starting point is 00:04:54 You'll do it in your own time. So he's noting, he's he's acknowledging, okay, yes, you are, you have indicated that you're open to joining the Abraham Accords, which have done a lot to stabilize the Middle East. And in fact, on October 7th, you had a lot of cooperation from those signatories against Hamas, against Iran, in response to that atrocity. And Saudi Arabia is, again, it's very different than what it was when we were all, I mean, a couple of, you know, a couple of decades ago, very, very different. And he's saying, notice how he ended that soundbite. You're going to do it in your own time, noting that they're moving towards that. And he says, he's indicating I'm not pressuring you, but I want this done. And he's saying that in rea in front of all of them, saying, yes, we want you to join the Abraham Accords. And he's also saying that this is a different direction than what it was under the Obama Biden regime. The Biden regime was just the third term of Barack Obama's tenure.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And it's a very different direction because the United States was favoring Saudi Arabia's geopolitical foe, which is Iran, whereas the United States is going back to Saudi Arabia. And Saudi Arabia is, I can't emphasize how much different it is, whether it's women driving or whether it's women having more representation in the courts, which all contributes to stronger family units or whether opening up to more capitalistic opportunities. as well as getting away from some of the factions previously in the family that have been very much inclined against the United States. And that's what a lot of people don't realize as well. It's very different. And it's their Vision 2030 project. And you could tell even back when they had Mohammed bin Nayef, who was the crown prince, he, I mean, you could, they were signaling this. The Trump administration noted that there was definitely a clear transition.
Starting point is 00:06:51 underway. And then after he was out, Muhammad bin Salman, who is the crown prince and the de facto prime minister, he's the driving force behind that vision 2030. And they are modernizing. They are a lot of people are like, oh, well, they're trying to, you know, whitewash for the lack of a better way to put it. There's a lot of missing nuance in that there are different factions in their leadership, just as there are different factions in the leadership of the United States. And the leadership that wanted to modernize and become more normalized relations with the United States is the faction that won out. I don't know how else to put it. I mean, the opening to investment in the United States and these deals, the fact that they're even leaning towards, you know, the Abraham Accords, which is, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:40 incredibly important, their response to in the face of October 7th. And just looking at some of the Like, for instance, you know, they're getting involved in, yes, entertainment and in sports. But also, and this might sound like something silly and stupid, but I think it's a, it's a good measure of where a nation is. They started having women's, like, fashion shows for women, which is something unheard of there 15, 20 years ago. They had swimsuit fashion shows and not like the full one piece or the, you know, you're going to wear your, your wet suit burqa into the sea. No, like actual, you know, fashion shows. I'm not saying that they're leaning towards, you know, crudeness or anything like, you know, what you would say, I think honestly, it's some Victoria Secrets walkways. But they're opening up the idea to modernization and incorporating all of this.
Starting point is 00:08:33 It's just, I think it's incredibly significant. Not every nation can be the United States, but nations that open up to capitalist opportunities and alliances with the United States that also are in lockstep with our national interest and our national security. That's a huge thing that should be acknowledged. I think already this has been a major victory for the administration, a big optic. I mean, think about this. The non-oil sector, I just have some data for you. The non-oil sector in Saudi Arabia, I mean, that was what a driving force was. By 2022, that had grown to account for almost 60% of their GDP. And they began attracting millions upon millions upon millions of international visitors. They doubled. Now, it's by choice. It's women who,
Starting point is 00:09:19 who want to have something to do, especially as their kids get older. Women's participation in the workforce nearly doubled by choice, not because of third-way feminists, like what we've seen in the United States, driving people to have to subsist on two incomes just to support one family. They lifted the driving ban. That was a huge thing. Go back to MIA when she did her one video where she was pretending that she was, you know, they were racing in the desert. That was in statement to the previous factions ban on women being able to drive. Women couldn't go to doctor's appointments. That's been lifted. Unemployment has fallen. And they culturally, they have Western, they've been opening up to Western retailers to American businesses. You, I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:01 it's, it is very stunning. Women don't have to enter through the back door anymore. You would not have thought of this. You've seen it 15 years ago. And it is, it, these are, these are just some smaller steps that indicate an even bigger movement. I think that, the United States needs as many alliances as possible, especially when you have China, Russia, and Iran. And this is proving, they're proving to be a potentially good one. That's all I'm saying. And I think it's been very interesting. And clearly, you know, you've seen the reaction to Trump or, I mean, he got, you know, the escort in as they were, as they were descending into Riyadh. They had the fighter jets that were accompanying them. And apparently they broke protocol. MBS met him on the tarmac. Now, I'm also going to tell you, I'm not going to be wowed by
Starting point is 00:10:53 little stunts of theater. None of those things move me. But my point in bringing these up to you is the difference in reception from this administration to the previous one and how they're taking our country seriously again, because now we're being serious about things, whether or not we're having trouble getting it accomplished in Congress, but they're taking it seriously. They're taking the leadership of the United States seriously again. We have a lot more on this. Plus, we got to talk about how Democrats finally met refugees they don't like. Oh yeah, we have a mean girl's moment on the way. A lot to unpack in today's program as we move. Our friends at all family pharmacy. Love this company. Love the website. Love how easy it is to get the medications
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Starting point is 00:12:52 And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick 5. Gosh, we got consumer price index. We've got to discuss as well. It's a big pack show today. New health issue for Joe Biden is apparently somebody found a nodule, a doctor found a nodule on his prostate. Hot topic of conversation.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I mean, I'm surprised. it's just a nodule. I just think they said that so far the nature of it has not been determined yet. It's still like very early on but they said it's too soon to say if it's benign or if it's like you know inflammation or anything of that issue.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Let's see. Also the Cannes Film Festival has banned risque outfits after years of trashy provocative red carpet displays. I want to go back to the days of like Grace Kelly and Audrey Hepburn and like
Starting point is 00:13:43 where it was actual tailoring and class and beauty instead of skanky, like herpes-looking type of stuff. I mean, everybody looks like they have been road and hung up. Can I be honest about it? They do. They look nasty. A lot of it's not fashion, and a lot of these ladies do not need to be wearing bodycon. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Okay. If I see fat rolls sticking out the back of your dress, that means bodycon is too tight for you. Don't do it. and if you're a celebrity and you have a stylist, you should not even be making that error. Madonna canceled her movie about herself, so it's going straight to Netflix. I don't really care. Is that one Julia chick from Ozark playing her? Because if not, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Cargo thieves are attacking the U.S. supply chain at alarming rates. Total reported losses have topped. This is wild. Half a billion dollars. According to industry insiders, they think it might be lower per CNBC than the true total, but not sure. Stick with us. We've got a lot in store. Democrats finally met refugees. They don't like. Shocking, right? Home title lock is one such company. Now, your home is your most valuable asset. So when's the last time that you checked on your home's title? You know, the legal proof that you own your own house. The issue is that in today's AI and cyber world, scammers will steal your home titles. And your equity is the target. They can forge your signature on a document. They can use a fake notary stamp. Pay a small fee with your county and before you know it your homes your your home's title's been totally transferred out of your name you need to get a free title history report and 14 day trial of the
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Starting point is 00:16:35 Saudi Arabian U.S. investment forum. He had a very warm welcome and broke protocol even by greeting him on the tarmac, which he did not do
Starting point is 00:16:50 previously at all with Joe Biden. They would always send a subordinate. People were trying to downplay it this morning. I saw all of the excuses this morning that, oh my gosh, no, it wasn't he, no, he did, he did greet. No, he didn't. He didn't.
Starting point is 00:17:04 they sent a subordinate to greet Biden at the airport. And then when he would arrive at the palace, that's when MBS would come out and greet him. And I think that that's important. I also think it's Saudi Arabia knowing that we have a pension in the United States for, you know, that kind of political theater. And they really wanted to drive home the point how much they don't like Biden. That's why they, I mean, let's be real.
Starting point is 00:17:25 That's why they're doing it. They did not like Biden. Biden was bad for business. Biden was bad for international relations. Biden leaned towards their geopolitical enemy. Iran. So they're really driving at home. Like, I don't think you could have more of a middle finger in the air than the welcome that Trump got to Democrats than what what Saudi Arabia gave to POTUS as he arrived in Riyadh. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. That's one of the things that I love about these things. I will watch videos over and over again of their first interactions, how they're sitting, where they're sitting. Because body language, you can be the best actor. You can be the best statesman. Everybody's got to tell. Everybody has a tell.
Starting point is 00:18:08 See, sidebar. Like, one of my, I would have loved to one day been a spy. I think it would have been very fun to do that. It would have been very fun. Like, you watch everybody and you, like, mirror with their day. There's a lot of psychology in it. But, and I will say, I think Trump went in strong.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I know there's a lot of criticism of some of the stuff that he's been doing lately, but I think that him going in the way that he did and then he dropped very nicely. I thought in a very nice way. We played that soundbite, you know, really kind of nudging them towards making it official instead of just indicating that they wanted to be on team Abraham Accords. And he says, you know, you'll do it your own way and that's fine. That's how we would have you do it.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I mean, that's, I thought that was a power move and that was very smart that his very first address, not even a third of the way through and he brought it up. That needs to continually be brought up. So that's good. You know Iran is probably, they're probably so mad right now. They're watching all of this. They're so mad because what are they left to? They're left to use their. nasty little stinky factions. They're little great value factions, right? Your little Hezbollah rag tag team of welfare terrorists, you know, your Hamas, your little rag tag team of welfare terrorists. They're not even smart enough to properly set up a rocket so they blow up their own damn schools. They're not even, they're not even smart enough to administer a strip of land that Israel had no problem administering. And then Hamas gets a hold of it. And what do they do? They run it into third world status, like
Starting point is 00:19:34 instantly digging tunnels, steel and copper, because they're animals, because Hamas are animals. I've seen dogs and packs that can govern better than what they can. It's true. So, great speech. We're going to come back to it. We finally met some refugees that Democrats don't like. Have you heard about what's going on in South Africa? We've only touched on it here and there, but they got a problem in South Africa. A big problem. The overcorrection is genocidal. They're killing white farmers in South Africa because they're white. And so all Trump did is said, hey, if you are fleeing racial violence, because it's not, I've met people from South Africa at different confabs before.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And it is a very real thing. What ends up happening is the government will step in. They've changed a lot of policies in recent years. and land that, you know, these people know how to farm and know how to irrigate and know how to manage, et cetera, is forcibly taken from them and then it's given to different families of color. And then those families have no idea about land management. They have no idea about agriculture. They have no idea about livestock.
Starting point is 00:20:48 They have no idea about anything as it pertains to farming or ranching. And then you don't have any yield. Everything goes sideways. And then now you're having a problem with your... your produce and your food supply. There's a lot of genocidal. There's a lot of violence over there right now against particularly white South African farmers. And I think a lot of people in media are afraid to talk about it because a lot of people, including on the right, have been conditioned that if you bring this up at all, then somehow you're a white supremacist, which is so stupid.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It's an emotional trick designed to keep people quiet about the issues so that the atrocities can continue. And I don't know if you've seen some of this stuff from some of these leaders that they have over there, but it's pretty rough. And they, so Trump decided he was going to allow people who are fleeing this genocidal violence to be able to come as actual refugees to the United States. And that's, that's really how ultimately that whole program is supposed to work. Now, I want to play for you two sound bites. First, I'm going to play for you. First, I'm going to to play. This is CNN. Of course it's CNN. And they're trying to say that, uh, that no, this, uh, this is all a lie and that Trump is lying. Listen to this. The South African president says
Starting point is 00:22:13 the people arriving in the U.S. today do not fit the definition of refugees and that what Trump has been told about their persecution is false. Huh. Well, that's not true at all. I mean, we've been able to see a lot of this stuff. It's, it's, I mean, it's, I mean, they're, they're doing what you would call property, expropriation. It's a very terrifying development. What has been happening over then. This has been going on for quite some time. They're following the Zimbabwe model. Their president, this was back in January, beginning of this year, signed the expropriation bill so the government can confiscate farms without compensation. If they can make, the case that it's best for public interest. And the law doesn't specifically only, isn't only
Starting point is 00:23:04 for farms. It actually can mean anything, any property really at all, which is wild that this is even happening because there's so many, there's an overabundance of natural resources on that continent and in South Africa. But we have, I mean, you have an ungodly amount of government corruption, violence, tribalism, and it is now a failed state. I don't know how else you can say it. I mean, it's, I mean, they, like, talk about their power grid. I mean, there's a lot we could discuss here. But they've had, like, for instance, in South Africa, they've been having, like, power.
Starting point is 00:23:42 They've been having power interruption since last year. And they have literally an actual racist government. This is a piece. This is from a couple of years ago. They have their minister of water and sanitation. They, this is from South African media, back in 2023 in May, they revised their guidelines. And they basically decided that they were going to, how do I put it? Administer water.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I mean, there's water and sanitation services literally like based on your race. Like, seriously, race and gender. And if you're particularly the wrong skin color, they tell you that, like, for instance, application for mining, this is from page 92, applications for mining related industries, 100% black owned are exempt to comply with these regulations, et cetera. So they were squeezing people based on race. And this is just one of the things that these farmers have had to deal with. they have race quotas. They've been banning entire people based on, you know, race from hiring,
Starting point is 00:25:00 from certain, just entire sectors, certain sectors. They've also implemented race quotas that are involved, that are every aspect of life down to water, sanitation, you know, trash, all of that. All of that is determined literally on the base of skin color. You have, they, they introduced race. quotas their Minister of Water, Senzo Michunu, May of 2023 introduced race quotas for the allocation of water use licenses and they said that an ANC that's their their governing party they said that under their new water race quotas applicants that use more than the certain particular amount or withdraw more than a set minimum amount from streams must meet strict racial quotas in order to access
Starting point is 00:25:54 water. And it's not depending on livestock or agriculture or whatever industry. It's literally about race and how many people that work with you on your land. What race are they? And they said farmers are companies that have not allocated between 25 to 75 percent of its shares to black citizens will be denied access, all access to water. And that's insane. That is absolutely devastating. I mean, there's been constant violence. There are some of the stories. that have come out of South Africa, if you are unfamiliar, are so gruesome and so barbaric. It's insane. Children are murdered in front of their parents. Women are raped in front of their spouses before they are brutally killed. I mean, they have electrical blackouts that are a regular everyday thing. There have been
Starting point is 00:26:41 stories about their power grid. I mean, good grief. Even electricity is meted out based on race. 80 murders every 24 hours. This is actually from their official government crime statistics. 80 murders every 24 hours, 120 women raped every 24 hours, 245 children murdered monthly, 11 women murdered every 24 hours. Murder rates are absolutely through the roof. And the African National Congress, they don't want to do anything. They just go to these conferences and act like they're doing all, you know, God's work in South Africa and they're not. Their economy is a sewer. Their trade balance is just, I mean, I don't think it can get any lower. Oh my gosh. They can't even, like I said, keep the lights on. Their retail industry, they don't have any anymore. They have no consumer spending power. I mean, how it's, it is one of the most unsustainable things I've ever seen. And the blame goes down to, they try to make all the blame exactly down on racial divide. I mean, it's, it is one of the craziest things ever. They would have their race quotas, the first race.
Starting point is 00:27:54 race quotas that they implemented. This was back in June of 2023. We're designed to ban entire groups from employment. And when I say groups, I mean white South Africans. The ANC government also, they established those race quotas that determine the waters we talked about. It is one of the craziest things. CNN says it doesn't exist. Would you like to hear their leader seeing about murdering white people, white farmers, the killed a bower? Because that's what all that means. There's been, you know, there's a history there. There's a history of violence there, but they've decided to lean into it. I think I threw that in Slack this morning. But it is, it's one of the craziest things ever. They've, I mean, just like in the past year, they were singing a song at official
Starting point is 00:28:34 government events. Kill the white farmer. That's like an actual thing that was, that's, I, so now you can see why. And by the way, Kane, how many refugees literally came in just the other day? Like, not even 60. Yeah, like 50 something. Okay. So. Okay. So. And I'm going to talk more about this. When they came into the United States, they were all waving American flags, and they were like crying. They were so happy to come to the United States compared to, I mean, hell, you'll have people third generation Mexican in the United States acting like, the border stepped on me. Shut the hell up, you entitled.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah, these people were happy to be here. The left would rather thousands of unvetted come in at once, but dare. vet 50 or less waving flags. These people were vetted. And they are legitimately fleeing for their lives. I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:33 This is, like, let's play three real quick. And then we're going to, and then we'll play four coming up. This is the first group. I mean, like tens of them. That was it. Tens of them, that was it. They're so excited to come to the United States.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Democrats hate them because they're white. Listen to this. Audio somebody three. First group. They were so, looking, they got American, flags. And they came in the right way.
Starting point is 00:29:55 They actually are legitimately fleeing murder. Because the people over there taking their land, they don't care if they got kids. Those kids will be raped and killed. Doesn't matter the age. The horror stories, there are missionaries over there that have been trying to, collie, they are even having a hard time. The stories that have been coming out from, whether it's missionaries, whether it's, you know, the farmers themselves, whether it's staggering.
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Starting point is 00:31:42 Dana Show podcast on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcast. Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States. You know, like I said, going forward, I've realized now that I see some of this coming back at me, that I should probably tone it down. So I've backed off a lot of media. It's a Pope brother. And I don't see myself really getting too much involved in that, at least and especially until I've had a chance to actually talk with my brother and see what his
Starting point is 00:32:25 I mean if you're the pope's brother do you get like an invite to the Vatican and do you get to go see like the rare rooms and all that kind of stuff I'm just curious I'd be totally taking advantage of that be like sup bro I want to go look at those tapestries without a bunch of sweaty people standing shoulder to shoulder with me can you make that happen you know I'd be asking for stuff like that like you know can I just like chill out and see Christine Chappel before it reopens to the public or opens to the public for the day. I'd be asking for those type of favors, you know, little things. But he apparently was real saucy on social media.
Starting point is 00:32:55 And the media was going, what? They don't quite understand that siblings don't share the same brain. It's a scientific achievement that our legacy press hasn't fully realized yet. And I just think it's funny. I also think you're the Pope's brother. Can he just be like, I think I'm good, right? Like, I don't need your judgment. I think I'm good.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I don't know. That's what I would. Because like, you know, how we got to get out of jail free card with FCC, I would think, you know, if your brother's the Pope, you know. Yeah, you could just like you, you know, I don't care if you're Catholic or not. I totally would be using that. If I was, yeah, if I was the sibling of the Pope, totally. It's like to get out of hell for you. Right? I know. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. We have coming up in our second hour. We're going to have Senator Rand Paul is going to be joining us. little bit later. We're also going to talk about how a bunch of block-headed Republicans are trying to screw you over on your Second Amendment rights with some bills that you may not be aware of. We're going to discuss all of that and more. Stick with us. Second Hour on the way. I've seen the amazing changes Relief Factor has made for so many people and I've seen it firsthand through my husband Chris's paying relief from using Relief Factor. Right now, it's easy
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Starting point is 00:35:29 for military, $1 trillion. That's a good line. That was a very good line from the latest just then. Welcome back to the program. It's the Saudi U.S. investment forum. POTUS just wrapped up a little bit ago, his speech. Can we play just some of that video, although we may have to strip the sound out later? for digital because they played YMCA.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Even though it's fair use, the fascists that are on the sewer that's called YouTube, they object. It was funny because he had in BS, you know, the Crown Prince and de facto prime minister, Mohammed bin Salman, who's up on stage with him, and they're playing YMCA. And I was thinking about this. I'm like, there have to be people in the audience, like, you know, Middle Eastern businessmen and other Saudis that are in the audience. It's like, why are they playing the YMCA song?
Starting point is 00:36:18 Like, they have to be wondering, it cracks me up. It always cracks me up when you have these cultural touch points that don't exactly hit in other countries. But I thought it was hysterical. They were on stage together after Trump finished his speech. And they started the YMCA song. You can hear it a little bit about. And then he was like, yes, yes. And then he's like, okay, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:36:42 But it was great. They get along very well. So welcome back. Dana Lash with you. top of the second hour, just a couple of other things. Situations like this are where Trump shines. Now, people will say, oh, but Trump's such a jackass. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:36:57 When you are dealing with a male dominated event and you are in a very patriarchal society, he can blow in and he can run the room. He's very good at that. And I like seeing that kind of stuff. like seeing that. I thought that America was very well represented this afternoon. I don't care if you're mad about Trump with this or that or that EO. I don't like the Katari jet either. I thought, nope, this was good. And I still go back to that soundbite that he had where we played it already, but where he said, you know, talked about the Abraham Accords and said, you know, I look forward to
Starting point is 00:37:36 you joining this, you know, in your own time. But he reemphasized right there in front of everybody in that room that that was an expectation of the United States. And that was a power move. And I appreciated that. And I also like the welcome that he received because it was a giant middle finger to the previous administration that was trying to chuck Saudi Arabia to the side and elevate, you know, the geopolitical foe Iran, which, you know, finances the killing of Americans, American soldiers, you know, all of this stuff. One other quick point as it relates to Saudi Arabia, because a lot of people are like, oh, you know, the last time, you know, they go back, they go back, and I get it, they go back to 9-11. There are also different factions.
Starting point is 00:38:14 in different world governments as there are in the United States. And people really need people to be able to understand this nuance, especially as we navigate this brave new world, right? So I thought this was a good trip for the president of the United States. Meantime, in the meantime, Democrats, they, well, it was like that mean girls seen, Kane. I can't play it, you can. The refugees, like 50-something of them that came in from South Africa.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And Democrats, I think, thought, oh, African refugees, and then they saw they were white. So if you're from Africa, why are you white? Yeah, it was like Karen for me and girls. If you're from Africa, why are you white? Because now they're very upset, including, can I, oh, hang on. Okay, here it is. Including, did you hear about this church, this Episcopal church?
Starting point is 00:39:06 They shut down their ministries, their quote unquote migration ministries because Trump took some white South African refugees in. And they have, who is this? Their Episcopal Bishop Okay, I'm going to tread into some very
Starting point is 00:39:29 probably not commonly held opinions here. I don't want a woman as my church leader. The fastest way you're going to run me out of that pew is if you put a brought up on stage who I take Paul's word, very, very seriously. I don't want to hear from a woman. I don't. I don't want to hear from a young preacher either. You better be old and have lived in order for me to be able to take you seriously
Starting point is 00:39:51 or have something seriously happen in your life that your calling is evident to all before you. So I have a major problem with this woman calling herself a bishop. Your girl is old school. I am more old school than anybody else that you're going to come across on air. I don't want to see a female bishop. I don't believe in it. Just like I don't believe that. Palestine is a real thing or a real ethnicity, just like I don't believe in the term assault weapon. Just like I don't think that men can, you know, put some tape between their other regions and stuff or bra and call themselves women. I don't believe in female bishops, female preachers, female pastors. I don't believe in any of that stuff because it's anti-biblical.
Starting point is 00:40:29 If you have a problem with it, your problem is with God, not with me. And you can take it up with him and he can evaluate whether or not he thinks that's a logical stance for you to have. So this, this one woman, she was very upset. The reason I bring her up, Marion Edgar, is it, how do you say her last name? B-U-D-D-E buddy? I think so. Beauty? Who knows? She's the Episcopal bishop and she had this big illegal immigration stance and, you know, she likes all the letters and all, you know, it doesn't matter if you come in legally or not. And she's given some pretty, remember the speech that she gave where she was trying to. trying to slam the administration and everybody who voted for him, who were supportive of deporting people who were here illegally. And she was saying, oh, God teaches us that we're to be merciful to the stranger because, you know, mercy and the facilitation of criminality are the exact same thing, apparently. So the, she is upset because now these refugees from South Africa are being allowed
Starting point is 00:41:36 into the United States. And what happened to the mercy for the stranger, by the way? Yeah. So the Episcopalians, they ended a nearly four decades old relationship. This comes from, sorry, this is religion news, because they're very upset over the white Afrikaners. They said, in light of our church's steadfast commitment to racial justice, and this is where that bishop buddies is from, in light of our church's steadfast commitment.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Amendment to racial justice and reconciliation. And our historic ties to the Angelican Church of Southern Africa, we're not able to take this step. That's what they're presiding bishop said in the letter. And they are upset by this. They said that it is, and it's the Sean Rowe presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church. They said that they are expected to resettle white Africaners from South Africa, whom the U.S. government classified as refugees. They don't believe that they're refugees,
Starting point is 00:42:38 and they are against it. So they said that they're going to stop their Episcopal migration ministries because they're expected to take in white Africaners, people who are actual victims of literal genocidal persecution. And they're helping to whitewash the ANC's crimes, apparently. But what happened to the murder? mercy for the immigrant, Kane. Oh, the mercy for the refugee. What happened to all of that? I can play a little bit of what she was saying if you want to hear that back in January when she was... Oh, please do. Please do.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And the people, the people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings who labor in poultry farms and meat packing plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens. or have the proper documentation. But the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. They pay taxes. Oh, except if you're a white South African-A. Yep, that's different. Unless you're that. The Episcopal Church, you're a joke.
Starting point is 00:43:51 You're an absolute joke. You're the reason why people hate organized religion, and it proves that even the devil can quote scripture. Get behind me, Satan. And if you have the threat of being A, white, and B, potentially voting, conservative, the left will not want you. Of course. This is a problem. You know, do you want to know why people have been leaving the church in droves because of ungodly, heathenistic, attempted
Starting point is 00:44:16 ministries like the one I'm talking about right here? We're going to put up some old white crone and then she's going to sit here and try to lecture everyone and try to play a game of guilt over everyone. Oh, you have to accept every form of criminality that the Democrats endorse. Basically, she's trying to shroud her partisan political zealotry in religion. That's what they're doing right now. Oh, wait a minute. Now we have refugees that are white. What? And now it's a big issue for them. Proving that it was never about the refugee. You know, they're no better than the Pharisees who roll around in ash and then parade around in public. Oh, look at me. I'm so penitent. Look at me. Oh, I'm taking about poverty. Oh, make sure you glorify me. me and my theatrical performative actions and not God whom it's supposed to actually honor.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I mean, they literally go against everything that the Gospels talk about. But okay. All right. So this is, this is one of the big reasons why a lot of people, by the way, have such a problem with organized religion. Now, you're supposed to, I don't, I don't mean for this to be a religious sermon because, again, I don't, I do not, I do not rise to the mantle of shepherd. nor do I claim it, nor do I seek it. But my observation is that people see the double standard. And yet you are also simultaneously called to fellowship. You're supposed to be part of a body. I mean, my gosh, just read Paul's writings.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I mean, the Gospels are quite clear. But it's very difficult when you have performative charlatans, like what we're seeing here coming out of the Episcopal Church, with these missives. Oh, no, we can't take part in this. ministry anymore because now it's white South Africaners. What makes them less than? Why is it that they are not allowed, but you guys will fall all over and wash the feet of a woman beating, human trafficking, MS-13 gangbanger? Oh, because they play on skin color.
Starting point is 00:46:24 If ever you wanted an actual example of racism, which is an immoral position, because that's never really something that's used divisively. In fact, you're extorted to move against that throughout the Bible. But if you want a real example of racism, then look at what these so-called shepherds are doing. Oh, no, we can't help them because of their skin color. Meanwhile, we're going to exalt you because of your skin color, things over which you cannot control. It's the modern-day clan. Pretty amazing, is it not? And they have the audacity to call themselves bishops. and shepherds and drape themselves with vestments and pretend to offer the bread and the wine and pretend that they're reading from scripture when really they're just spitting poison.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Maybe the part of the Bible that they missed was what happens to shepherds who mislead their flock and how they are yoked with a stone so heavy and thrown into the deepest part of the sea. Now, I know I shouldn't practice nor engage in the schadenfreude of such an action, but I dare say that I don't even know if that would convey the lesson that they need to learn, such as their evil. We have a lot more coming up. Your body is a powerhouse. It heals, it builds, it keeps you moving.
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Starting point is 00:48:46 All right. So we got a man bites dog. I mean, that's literally a headline. police say Naked man bid a dog and fought officers at a Kansas gas station He's in custody
Starting point is 00:49:00 Because he resisted arrest He attacked police officers And his own dog During a violent struggle At a Lawrence gas station On Wednesday They responded to the disturbance At the Casey's General Store
Starting point is 00:49:11 How are you gonna do the dog like that? He had brought a dog inside with him When they officers arrived He was totally in his birthday suit They tased him twice He continued to arrest or resist He bit his dog's ear and neck And refused to release
Starting point is 00:49:23 his grip. I would have beat him to death with my baton. I would have, yeah, I would have made it last. I wouldn't have made it go quick with a firearm. I would have beat him to within an inch of his life with my baton, and then I would have chased him to the point where he couldn't stop drooling. That's me. The dog suffered minor injuries, and clearly I valued the dog's life
Starting point is 00:49:39 more than this guys, and was transported to Lawrence Humane Society for evaluation and care. Please, someone adopt that sweep up. Let's see here. Moving on, we got, oh, wow. The, no, no, no, I don't want to do the Let's do, oh, half of Tesla owners say their cars have been damaged intentionally.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Stephen Yates, our friend Stephen Yates, his car was keyed. He drives a Tesla. And he came out and said, well, I guess I get to join the Keyed Club. And his Tesla had been keyed. This is MSN. They say half of half. Like, it's like a point away of Tesla owners say that their cars have been damaged on purpose. So because I'm a very confrontational person when this, when situation requires,
Starting point is 00:50:23 Kane, I feel like I want to get a Tesla and just sit in it. And then if somebody tries to key my car, Katie bar the door, it's going to be like Darth Vader when he's like getting on that spaceship going after Leah. And it'll be like that. Could be a fun way to kill time. Killing time. Yes, that is correct, Kane. A Nebraska man is facing two felonies because he attacked. Oh, speaking of, you know, Vader, his neighbor and a seven-year-old with a lightsaber.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Like, it's not a real one, right? Because that's impossible. I hope not. They said it was a higher quality device. It was three and a half feet made of metal and thick plastic. That's actually, I mean, don't do it. But I mean, that's, you know, a little bit better than a baseball bat, I guess. Stick with us because we've got some rhinoism afoot with 2A. Goldco is making it easy to take that first step toward protecting your savings. Just fill out a quick form. No commitment. Just free information. And then they'll ship you your free 2025 gold and silver kit straight to your door. No shipping fees, no strings. a free info kit to help you understand how gold and silver can fit into your financial plan.
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Starting point is 00:52:38 Specifically, this is about the National Firearms Act and, of course, suppressors. Now, for those of you who maybe you're not that far into 2A or you don't own a suppressor, you think it doesn't affect you, it does because this is just. just another example of, and I hate to say it, you got a lot of soft Republicans that are out there thinking we can just do the bare minimum, call it a victory, and then go ahead and ask for donations, because we're going to pretend that we've done something for your, for your constitutionally affirmed rights, and that's not the way it works. So right now, and I mentioned this yesterday, the House Ways and Means Committee, they have a draft, their reconciliation draft, and in it, they're trying to act like this is a big Second Amendment win. They're going to reduce the extortion. I mean, the tax. that you would have to pay on your suppressor from $200 to just $5. But yet it's still going to remain classified as an NFAID, meaning you have to go and beg the government, please, may I have suppressed shooting, may I please? And still get all that permission and they know what you have, et cetera, et cetera. And there are actually some Republicans that are going along with us and they're going to try to act like it's a huge victory.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And I've been hearing a lot of chatter behind the scenes on this. So obviously this cannot stand, especially when, you know, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, We should have more, we should have friendlier two-way legislation coming out of the House than this. Joining us right now is Knox Williams. He's the president and executive director of the American Suppressor Association. And we welcome him back. Knox, good to see you. So I, I just feel like this is, this is such a lazy way to, like a lazy toss to voters.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Like, oh, we're going to reduce from $200 to $5. But the big issue is that it's still going to be classified on. under NFA, which that's not a win at all. But I mean, I've literally been hearing from some people in DC that they think that this is like a great victory. Yeah, and Dana, thanks for having me on again. It's truly a pleasure to chat with you. And I agree.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I think that it's just the members who are pushing this in the house don't understand where the gun community lands and where they're coming from. You know, it's 91 years that we've been taxed for our right to purchase suppressors. And at the end of the day, if we have an opportunity to do away with that tax entirely, and get these things out of the NFA,
Starting point is 00:54:54 the gun community wants our members of Congress to take that action, period, hard stop. What is their argument for keeping it under a National Firearms Act? I don't understand their reluctance to move it off of that. You know, honestly, that's a great question and one I can't fully answer for them.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I can't comprehend it. And the draft that they put out, it has the reduction of the $200 transfer tax down to zero. So it seems to me to be a bit of a moot point, right? Like if we're going to zero out the tax, why not just take the extra step to actually remove these things from the National Firearms Act? And the critical importance of that is because, again, this is a 91-year-old tax scheme that was set up in 1934. There is a federal registry called the NFRTR that exists solely as a record of taxes paid.
Starting point is 00:55:41 And people don't want to have to deal with that. You know, you shouldn't have to submit fingerprint cards. You shouldn't have to submit passport photos. You shouldn't have to ask permission from the ATF to be able to be able to deal with that. purchase these items, and yet here we are, and that's where it would stand if they even zero this tax out. So I think that a lot of these members think that they are generating a win, but it just isn't the win that they think it is, at least not in the eyes of the 2A community. Yeah, I completely agree with you. And it just doesn't, I mean, because still, that's the big issue.
Starting point is 00:56:08 The big issue isn't, you know, the transfer tax. The big issue is, you know, the fact that it's still listed on this. I mean, and we've talked before Knox when you were on, I mean, when you go to, you know, any other country, if you're in Europe, if you're in, you know, South America, if you're wherever, and if you're not shooting suppressed, you know, you're kind of looked at, like, oh, that's so trashy. Like, it's just, you know, bad form. Like, you're a bad guest. And, and, but yet here, they act like it just, it's, I don't know what they think it contributes to. It's, it's, it's this, the difference is startling to me. Yeah, I mean, I think that they're looking for, for the easiest path, right? And I understand that in the context of this reconciliation
Starting point is 00:56:45 process. This is a very small component of the one big beautiful bill that the president is trying to get to his desk. Certainly sympathetic to that, but gun owners shouldn't be the one taking it on the chin for the advancement of this package. And I also just really question whether or not they're doing the math right. You know, look, if you're going to bake this down to, you know, what's in the best interest of the least conservative member of a committee, I don't think that's a way to run this. I think that you've got to look at holistically what impact this is going to have. And I just don't see, you know, the hardliners on our side being willing to take this as a measure to get them to vote for other components of the reconciliation package that leadership is going to need them to
Starting point is 00:57:27 vote for. Yeah, we're talking for those listening around the country and not watching the simulcast. We're talking with Knox Williams, he was the president and executive director of the American Suppressor Association. And I've tried Knox. I've tried thinking, okay, well, what are the arguments that the left could make or that, you know, anti-second amendment advocates could make against these lawmakers, remove. moving suppressors from being classified as NFA items.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And I just don't think that there's like a good enough soundbite that they couldn't overcome unless they're that horrific at messaging. Yeah, absolutely. And that's the weird part, right? Like it's not a win for the 2A community, but you're still going to take all the flack from the anti-gunners, right? It's kind of a lose-lose situation. And I really genuinely think they don't see it that way,
Starting point is 00:58:07 but it's really, it shows the disconnect between those members and the Second Amendment community. Yeah, I completely agree with you on this. Is this likely, is this, do you think that there's going to be push back against some of these more moderate members of the committee and or in the House to maybe like reconsider and remove this? I know because, you know, obviously the Hearing Protection Act is something that we, you know, very much support and you've been doing a great job advocating for that. But and the reason I ask the question that way is because I feel like if we miss our opportunity here with us, I don't know when that's going to come back around again. Yeah, I agree completely. Look, I've been working at this since 2011.
Starting point is 00:58:47 We wrote the Hearing Protection Act or helped write it in 2015. So it's been a decade of advocating to remove suppressors from the National Firearms Act. This is only the second time in that entire tenure. Wow. Where we have a legitimate shot at getting this done. These opportunities don't come around very often. And, you know, look, I think that we've got to be able to seize on the moment. I think that is really at the core of why the Second Amendment community is so frustrated
Starting point is 00:59:12 because when these opportunities do arise, if we get soft on the issue, it's kind of like, why are we even participating? And I think that's a message that the gun world is sending loud and clear to House Ways and Means and to Congress. I mean, I think that we all need to stand united in that front. And when I look at some of the sound bites that these people, or not sound bites, but rather quotes that they've given, whether it's, you know, they're walking from, walking back to the, you know, the heart building or wherever. And, you know, they give little quotes to reporters outside. I honestly don't even think any of them have ever shot suppressed before with the way that they talk about it. And I feel like if you're going to sit here and legislate about firearms, maybe you should, you know, kind of halfway know what you're talking about. And we joke about football. Like I, I know nothing about football. I live in like a football crazy house and I'm the only person that does not know about the NFL and being able to make regulations pertaining to the field. You know, you would never have me do that. It's like, why would you have these lawmakers do this about a constitutionally affirmed right?
Starting point is 01:00:06 Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. And that's something that we love to do is take lawmakers out to the shooting range and expose them to what suppressed gunshots actually can and more importantly, cannot do. Because there is a massive disconnect there. Yeah, they act like a bunch of gangbangers are running around the streets. And it's just all like silent, like, pew, pew, pew, like that. And it's not like that at all. Last quick question for you.
Starting point is 01:00:28 And I don't know, I don't want to, I don't want you to, to jeopardize any negotiations or positions that you have with these or wherever you're at with these other lawmakers. and persuading them to see the light of liberty. But is there anybody that's just been, that's just proven immovable that, you know, maybe could deserve a little bit of heat? Yeah, I mean, there certainly are. I don't want to blow up negotiations at this point,
Starting point is 01:00:48 but what I can say is visit Hearing Protection Act.com. It's a landing page that we have where you can put in your information and send an email to your elected official. That certainly helps call the House Ways and Means Committee as well. Those guys need to know and understand, hey, we want to see Section 2 of the Hearing Protection Act, which remove suppressors from the NFA, included in the reconciliation process. The more heat we can dial up, again, do it in a positive way.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Don't come out attacking these folks, but just say, hey, look, I'm a constituent and I care. Do it polite, but do it firm. I would think that this would be a huge talking point, too, for the administration. And it might, you know, be like a good make good for a lot of the stuff that people saw with bump stocks until the courts got involved. You know, I think that would go a long way and kind of like normal. normalizing those relationships with that community that got fractured during all of that. So hopefully, I mean, fingers crossed, but I agree with you. People need to be blown up the phones, rhetorically speaking, to the House Ways and Means Committee members as well.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Knox Williams, we'd love to have you back. Please keep us updated as to all of this, and we're going to watch as well, but we'll probably be reaching back out to you here shortly as this thing progresses. Good to see you. That sounds great. Dana, thank you so much. Thank you so much. That's Knox Williams. He's the president-executor director of the American Suppressor. Association. Then Hearing Protection Act is just smart legislation. And I'm just, I'm floored that there are lawmakers. And I'm trying to remember the name of them. I save this piece, because I'm doing an overall piece on this for substack over a chapter and verse. But someone's like, oh, we can't just have people out there. The way that they said it was something like unaccountable,
Starting point is 01:02:24 like shootings, unaccountable. It's like you, they're not, it's not silent. It just reduces the decibel level. They did studies on it. The decibel level is like the same as the level coming from giant monitors at like a rock concert. If you've ever been to a concert and you've been anywhere near the giant monitors, your ears ring afterwards. So it doesn't, you know, Hollywood is fiction and it made it very fictional the way that suppressors worked. And it's just, it's weird I had a friend who has gone bird hunting all over the world. And he loves to joke that the first time that he ever was invited to go overseas, to go bird hunting.
Starting point is 01:03:07 He was not shooting suppressed. And when they were doing a whole bunch of stuff, and people thought it was like bad manners. It's just thought of as like very gauche, like very bad manners. Like, oh, you're, you don't shoot suppressed. Because over there, that's like the norm. And because people aren't idiotic, they realize that it still makes a quite a loud sound.
Starting point is 01:03:27 But a lot of the anti-gun advocates, particularly those that come from high crime areas, like you hear this a lot from Chicago, authorities in Chicago or elected. like that officials there. They would say, oh, you know, shooting suppressed. You know, you can't have, like, they would have a bunch of shootings that they couldn't hear and they wouldn't be able to stop their, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. And so for these lawmakers to say, oh, we're just going to either reduce the tax transfer or the transfer tax or we're going to
Starting point is 01:03:52 do away with it. That's a furek victory. I mean, barely even that. I mean, you're, it's still an NFA item. You still have to beg the government for permission. It's, they still have a receipt of exactly what you have, when you got it, et cetera. I mean, that's a de facto registry. And I think by allowing it to remain on that list, you're essentially making it easier for the establishment of any such registering in the future. So these lawmakers need to get on the same page with liberty-minded Americans. We have a lot more on the way.
Starting point is 01:04:21 We got Senator Randall is going to be joining us later. And, of course, you know, the problem with the refugees coming in from South Africa, we have this. And we also have the latest Democrat fallout. apparently everybody's coming out with books books galore like apparently Biden didn't recognize George Clooney per Axios at a June 2024 fundraiser and they knew each other for like 15 plus years and apparently that's why George Clooney wrote the editorial that he did I know so we got a lot of stuff to discuss as well with Super Beach you guys are familiar with the heart chews super
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Starting point is 01:06:31 elbow and then he left the same way he had come in through the large dog door he's been charged with burglary or assault with assault or battery and i told can on break i said i this is why i don't have a dog door but if i did maybe i would want like some a i facial recognition and i would have like two robotic arms that would automatically descend maybe with like i don't know imp fives or something and you know fully pointed at the dog door so if it's not my dog both of them how did it have Like a snare. Since, you know, I'm not going to beg the government for NFA stuff. So, yeah, it'd be like that.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I'd have enough door it would just be like that. Also, if you're fitting through a doggy door, you're a small dude. They said it was a large dog door. I don't know what that means, what the measurements on that are. You know, I'm not like Bob the builder, but, you know. But yeah, that's why I haven't wanted. Because criminals aren't necessarily came the healthiest of the smartest people. That's true.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Yeah, I know. So, let's see here. Okay. this blew my mind. I don't do, I, I, I had a family member that took me to Disney World or Disneyland one time. I never been, I think I was at Disney World once for a work thing. But this Florida man, he says this is the average cost when he took his family. Florida man says that it was $1,400 for one day at Walt Disney World. I'm sorry, what? So let's break this down. Yeah, he said that it was like $1,400. Parking was $30. tickets for his family to get into Hollywood Studios, and it's like a family of four, $974.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Five tickets and parking, immediately, that's $1,000. And they even got the Florida resident discount, and they have one child under 10. Everything else, quick service meals in Disney Springs, any kind of snack or drink, water and ice cream was $30. He had a pretzel and a beer that was $20. They said it was over $44 for quick service pizza and a drink. They said that Star Wars Coke was like $7. I mean, just insane. And one of their restaurants for their dinner was like almost $300,
Starting point is 01:08:36 ending at just like just under $1,400. And they said that they didn't even stay at one of the resort hotels. I love nothing that much to pay that kind of money, right? No way. I mean, I don't know. And now remember how Disney was like, oh, Florida don't say gay. Well, they're building a resort. Abu Dhabi where you definitely can't say gay?
Starting point is 01:09:00 Are they going to have like a ride featuring, you know, we're going to throw the gays to death because they're gay. I mean, I'm just curious how they're. So $1,400. My jaw hit the floor. There is no way I would pay that. I could be a patrillionaire and I will not pay that. That is insane.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I'm going to take a stand somewhere. That's crazy. So a, where to start with this one? Well, we're almost out of time. I'll have to tell you about the Walmart worst robbery technique ever tomorrow. In the meantime, third hour is on the way. And we're going to have Senator Rand Paul Joanna stick with us. With all family pharmacy, convenience is everything. And they make it so simple. It's fast shipping, no hassle, no gatekeepers. You can order from the comfort of home and let all
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Starting point is 01:10:45 to do, but South Africa did it. Wow, I don't even know who this chick is that's saying this. Some CNN panelists who clearly does not understand the history of South Africa. I mean, wow, if you don't like it, then you can leave. And they did. That's the problem that the left has is that they did. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this third hour. I mean, look at Zimbabwe.
Starting point is 01:11:12 They were neighbors. And they took away farms. And the indigenous people there could not maintain the farms. They could not handle the agriculture, the land management, the livestock, none of it. their agricultural output entirely totally collapsed. And then they ended up having to fight deal with famine. And then they were trying to lure people back to manage these farms unsuccessfully. The problem is that in South Africa, they're literally hunting down. I've met, I've met South African farmers. In fact, one of the last work trips I was on, I went, I met, there happened
Starting point is 01:11:52 to be included some, a couple that was from South Africa. And they saw, have family there, so they were like not doing any press, but they actually had to go and seek refugee status in a different nation. And the stories and the photos are amazing, amazingly horrible. It's just it's, you think, wow, because it was last year and you think, wow, it's like 2024 and now it's 25. It's crazy that this stuff happens and that, you know, people do this to themselves. But, you know, she thinks that there's a needs to be a racial reconciliation. Like, what does she think what does that mean to her a racial reconciliation because this is what we're talking about audio somebody for this was like a year ago not even a year ago and you have the julius uh malama he's the head
Starting point is 01:12:35 of the eFF political party over there the economic freedom fighters screaming about killing the white farmer audio some bite four listen Yeah, that is, it's literally derived from a word. It's in Dutch and Africans. So it means farmer. So they're saying kill the farmer, kill the white farmer. He is literally the head of a major South African political party. And he's calling for wholesale genocide.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And that's what they call settlers in South Africa, even if they're their second, third generations. They're called Boers. And it's the chant is kill the boers. And they are farmers. Now, the whole, you know, one of the things that this talking head on CNN doesn't understand is that when they had the whole, when Nelson Mandela was negotiating power transfer, part of the reason why you had certain factions hand over power to other factions,
Starting point is 01:14:02 was under the promise that they were going to be their lives, their property and their rights were going to be protected. And that didn't happen. And they were trying to do what they were, what was considered as, you know, unjust colonialism now with more unjust colonialism. It's, I mean, it's crazy. And, I mean, everything that people say that Mandela's negotiations were trying to prevent, well, it's happening. didn't prevent anything. And then you have the New York Times a year ago. They were livid. So when this happened, what was this a year ago that this happened? I think it may have been a year ago, a year ago or 18 months ago. The New York Times had a story, it was about 18 months ago. The New York Times had a story when that soundbite first came out where they were livid that people were reacting to Julius Malema's call for genocide, literally. That's what it was. And they were trying to excuse it. I'm
Starting point is 01:15:02 reading from this piece that was in August of 23, so almost two years, and they noted the rally from Julius Malema, and they said that the video clip that shot across the internet was seized by Americans on the far right, who said it was a call to violence. Unless you're a geopolitical moron with no knowledge of what's happening and thus no authority or really room to speak on what's happening, I mean, you can observe history. that's what that phrase means. It's a genocidal phrase. Just like when you say from the river to the sea, when you're talking about Ghazans, Jordanians, who want to make up an ethnicity and call themselves Palestinians, which doesn't exist, that's also a call for genocide. When you say kill the Boer that literally translates to you're killing the farmer and they're going after these white farmers in South Africa. Anyone who argues otherwise isn't smart enough or knowledge. enough about the issue to discuss it. And it is embarrassing, especially if you're a racial grifter like this woman was on CNN,
Starting point is 01:16:11 who's trying to parlay her ethnicity into as a substitute for merit or education. And she's downplaying. You literally just heard and watched the video, downplaying that and acting, acting like that didn't happen. Acting like the head of a major political party in South Africa wasn't in an arena leading thousands of people to scream, kill the white farmer. that's the problem with so many people in legacy press you would be shocked at how stupid some of them are I mean some of the dumbest people I've ever had conversations with have been some of these individuals
Starting point is 01:16:42 in green rooms not kidding so I um one of the reasons why you know for instance Elon Musk came to the United States is he wasn't going to be drafted into a military that was weaponized to actually maintain apartheid and that's one of the that's that's one of the reasons that's that's one of the that he ended up leaving. And it is as deeply racist to scream, you know, kill the Boer like Malema was in that arena. So for people, and the New York Times was trying to say that it was, oh, it's a mostly peaceful call to genocide. That's what they were trying to argue. The New York Times literally was running cover for calls for genocide. You know, they probably would have done the same thing under Hitler. There's a proper appeal to Godwin's law if you ever want one. So, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:28 I don't know. And the EFF, if you're unfamiliar with them, they are a very far left violent Marxist political entity. That's a cult. I don't even want to say it's a political entity. I think at some point, you're so far left that it's just a cult. And they excuse violence as political activism. Who else does that? Hmm, that sounds really familiar. Excusing violence as legitimate political activists. Oh, it's the Nazis that are chasing Jewish students on college campuses around the United States. Hmm. Wow. I mean, all throughout history, that's what these far left people do. I mean, so people who say that this genocide isn't happening, it is. People who say that, you know, they're not calling for it. They're lying to you. And so going back, this is why Trump said,
Starting point is 01:18:24 okay, if you're fleeing racial violence, this is why we and other nations, not just the United States, have you know, refugee programs, assailee programs. Kane, you had mentioned the temporary protected
Starting point is 01:18:40 status, the TPS program that was implemented, like here and then to where we can validate the threat level. And it is, they're trying to argue that there's like no, yeah, play this, because this is the history writing that they're trying to implement to justify this is stunning.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Go ahead and play this. This is MSNBC. The descendants of the people who created the most diabolical system of white supremacy in human history, apartheid, they're not directly responsible for it. But it was a system that actually moved black people off of the Arab land. So they inherited the land that the black people had to give up. It was called forced removal. It was something called a Ban to Stan policy
Starting point is 01:19:29 where they moved black people out of the cities and farmlands into these remote areas with non-Arabble land. I mean, it was just one of the most worst processes ever. But what has happened in this strange, bizarre world we're living in is that the Afrikaners have become the darling of these right-wing white supremacist movements around the world. that it's like it's like the lost cause for them it's like the old confederacy they're held up as I mean you're talking about I mean what did the English move and let's go back like what this the 17th century
Starting point is 01:20:00 I mean you're talking about several hundred years ago that this happened so are you discussing descendants what do you mean descendants like descendants are the ones that are responsible for everything right now I'm trying to so he's justifying genocide that's what so on MSNBC they're selling commercial airtime on justifying genocide. This is amazing. When these people show you who they are, believe them. I mean, when he said descendants, after that I couldn't take anything seriously.
Starting point is 01:20:31 I'm like, I'm sorry, what? Because it's like over 300 years ago at this point. And again, you're ignoring the negotiations that took place after Mandela and then how that was for, you know, the protection of land property, et cetera. And then that was thrown out the window. A lot of these people, and look, I don't proclaim to be an expert.
Starting point is 01:20:48 know enough because I pay attention to world events, right, as any, you know, smart, aware person would. But you have these individuals who have been raised in the Tupperware fresh environment of stagnant academia and they only believe what their Marxist instructors tell them. And so their Marxist instructors tell them this is the way of it. And they actually go and then they spit this sewage onto airwaves like this goofball did on MSNBC. I mean, good heavens. This guy. I don't even know who he is. I'm not, I don't know. I just, it just shocks me. And by the way, the South African president had already reiterated that talking about these specific farmers, they, they don't deserve any kind of protection, refugee or otherwise, because they don't conform to the
Starting point is 01:21:38 standards that he demands for such refugee protection. And he said that before. He, in fact, there was a report where he had said he talked to Trump and told him that he had been, Trump had been provided with false information. This guy's a liar. I mean, they're thugs. The people who run South Africa are thugs, bottom line. And I mean, it's just the left will always excuse genocide if it, if it, if it's advantageous to them, not unlike what they did in the 30s. So Al Sharpton was slaming of all people, the refugee status that POTUS was granting to white Africaners in the way in the wake of that expropriation law because they can just seize, again,
Starting point is 01:22:21 not just farms, but any fixed property, they can seize any property. And Al Sharpton, and by the way, that act was signed in last year. Al Sharpton says that he, that it was mass deportation of the worst of the worst.
Starting point is 01:22:40 He was saying that, he said, you're taking, I mean, he was basically questioning whether or not they could be refugees is what he was doing. They applied for asylum. People are missing that. They stayed in their country and applied for asylum. Remember how we were told that gangbangers coming in from Mexico?
Starting point is 01:23:02 They had to come to the United States and then apply for asylum. Okay, so these refugees that came from South Africa, they did it the correct way. They applied for asylum and then they came in. 50-something of them. they were allowed in a big a huge sizable number of them children i just don't think that i'm going to take al sharpton seriously on anything because al sharpton incited a riot that can that caused a fire and burned a man to death because al sharpton was mad that the business owner was jewish and that he wasn't just going to allow he he had he didn't even own the property someone else
Starting point is 01:23:38 it was a church that owned the property and this guy was sub leasing and he had to raise the rates and it was just like a big deal. And he was targeted because he was Jewish, and Al Sharpton is an anti-Semitic bigot. Not only that, but sidebar, I was in one of the times I was on real time with Bill Marr. Who lied about me and never corrected it? Al Sharpton came in with a whole entourage.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I've never seen any, I mean, he acted like he was James Brown, rolled in with this major entourage. Man, they were hoovering up everything in craft service. I was with a couple of friends, and we were backstage. I hadn't gone on yet. that was very just very interesting there you go your body is a powerhouse it heals it builds it
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Starting point is 01:28:45 get your podcasts welcome back to the program you can listen coast to coast on one of our hundreds of affiliates around the country you can also watch the stream digital everywhere channel 347 direct TV. So we've had a busy news day and we also have to get to the big beautiful bill. What is happening in Congress right now? What is happening in the House? What's happening in the Senate? Are our taxes going to be increased because government won't stop spending? That's the million dollar question on this and other issues joining us right now. One of our favorite people in the Senate, Senator Rand Paul, who's one of the only lawmakers remaining who can do math. He joins us now via video. Senator, always a pleasure to have you, and I always appreciate your fiscal sanity.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Where do we stand with this, by the way? Because I keep hearing discussions that the administration was floating tax hikes or that we were going to maybe cut less, but I do know that the debt ceiling is something being discussed, which you are staunchly against raising. So the big, beautiful bill is comprised of tax cuts. The same tax cuts we passed in 2017, I've been supportive of those tax cuts, making them permanent and then there's a few additions to it. They are adding into it no tax on tips, a deduction for overtime and some deductions for seniors. There's a few wrinkles, but it's largely
Starting point is 01:30:04 keeping the tax cuts. I'm in favor of that. There are some spending cuts. We don't know exactly what they're going to be yet coming out of the house. I predict they will be wimpy. I predict that they will be insufficient and that the deficit will continue to burgeon. The reason I predict this is that the third aspect of the bill is they're going to increase the debt ceiling. Now, the House has voted to increase it by $4 trillion. The Senate previously, against my wishes, voted to increase it by $5 trillion. I think no matter what kind of supposed spending cuts you're coming up with, if you're going to actually raise the debt ceiling $4 or $5 trillion,
Starting point is 01:30:41 that's not a fiscally responsible position and I can't support it. So I've told them I can't vote for the bill if it expands the debt by trillion. of dollars, but I could if they were to separate the issues. Whether or not that will come to fruition, we'll see. If they get a quick agreement, they're done in a month, probably it all stays together. If the negotiations break down, it takes longer than a month or two to pass this, then I think there's a possibility the debt ceiling gets stripped out and done more urgently, and then the bill would go forward but without the debt ceiling on it.
Starting point is 01:31:16 I frankly think that we just, we can't keep the deficit each year by more than $2 trillion. That's just not fiscally conservative. And many of our supporters who have seen Elon Musk and the work of Doge and are enthusiastic as to the cuts are like, where are the cuts if the deficit's still $2 trillion? And that is a question that everybody's going to be asking. And the answer is that Congress doesn't have the sufficient wherewithal
Starting point is 01:31:44 to actually cut spending. And that's what's so incredibly disappointing in this. I know that some of the recommended cuts from Doge are caught up in litigation, and I know that that's, you know, that's something that lawmakers have to wait on. But, you know, the recommended cuts that are not, that seems like an easy fix that, you know, Congress could come together, codify that, get it done, and then talk about reducing spending more. And then if they want to have the discussion about the debt ceiling, they can have it. Well, the only Doge cuts that are really caught in litigation are whether or not the administration can do it without congressional authority. So if they're sent back to us and we were to give them authority, there would be no legal case. case for virtually all of the cuts.
Starting point is 01:32:21 The people are suing because they maintain the president can't do this without congressional authority. Some of that is an open debate. But with regard to where we move, if we move forward, they can send some of the spending cuts that Doge is found back through a process called rescission. And rescission is a special legislative vehicle. It's a simple majority required. It's a privileged vote.
Starting point is 01:32:45 And we have enough Republicans in both house. The room, in both the House and the Senate, the rumors are they have a $9 billion one. Now, while I'm for that, nine billions is a pittance. It's a rounding error. If the deficit next year is going to be $2.2 trillion, that means if you cut $9 billion, it's $2.191 billion. So it really is not much of a cut. So I think we need to do more, but the fact that they're hung up and don't think they can get the vote for $9 billion is pathetic. That means that we don't have enough Republicans who will cut sex change surgeries in Guatemala,
Starting point is 01:33:23 trans comic book in Peru, trans opera in Colombia, you name it. All the crazy stuff that Doge has found, we don't have a majority of Republicans who will vote for that. That, to me, is such a disappointment that I'm going to keep agitating and saying, send us to $9 billion, because I want to know who the Republicans are that can't vote to cut $9 billion, because if you can't vote to cut $9 billion, you might as well switch parties, quit or let us elect a real Republican who will cut spending. Well, and that's kind of the thing we've been hearing
Starting point is 01:33:54 that, oh, well, we couldn't do it earlier this after the first of the year. We have to wait. And now we're told that, well, this may drag out until September. And it seems like this can keeps getting kicked further and further down the road. And then before we know what we're going to be in midterms, and we're going to be told not we can't wait because we've got midterms coming up. So we're going to have to wait after that. That's what they told us last midterms, too, Senator.
Starting point is 01:34:13 It's also part of the argument for why they want to increase the debt ceiling $4 to $5 trillion is they're saying, oh, we want to get beyond the next election so the voters won't hear us having to talk about it or vote about it. I have the opposite approach. I offered an amendment when the bill came up a week or two ago in the Senate to give them three months of debt ceiling increase. You know how much that is? In three months, you've got to give them $500 billion.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Even that hurt me. But I could only convince two other colleagues. The vote was three to 97 not to increase it by three months. The reason I would do it three months at a time is if you're promising me, and these are the powers that be, the leadership are all promising me. We're going to cut spending. We're going to bring in those doge cuts. I'll believe it when I see it.
Starting point is 01:35:01 So here's three months worth of borrowing. Show me what you got over the next three months. And I predict in three months we'd see nothing and dough response and no cuts. and then I would never give them another dime. Instead, we're doing the opposite. And conservatives, many who have traditionally been conservatives, are going along with this $4 trillion increase. I think it's shameful, and it removes the moral ground
Starting point is 01:35:25 from any conservatives who want to say, I oppose the spending, I oppose the debt. Once they get on board voting for this debt ceiling, I don't know. I think our moral ground is lost as deficit crusaders. I think that you hit the nail on the head. This reminds me very much of, like, 08, 09, the early Tea Party days, when that was kind of the same argument that we were hearing
Starting point is 01:35:45 from the Republican establishment, that we have to, you know, this is too big to fail. We've got to go along to get along. And now it's like, you know, to be quite frank about it, you know, now you have some of that Bush League republicanism that's reemerging in the party and it's calling itself populism. It doesn't make any sense. We're talking to Senator Rand Paul about the budget and the big, beautiful bill. You had also, I know that you were talking about the Federal Reserve Senator operating at a loss and you were talking about the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau must go. I was surprised that you were getting pushback on this. Yeah, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was a baby of the left, a baby of Elizabeth Warren
Starting point is 01:36:22 and the far left. They got it passed and they wanted to make it permanent so nobody could ever cut it, even if Republicans ever got in charge. So they said Congress won't fund it. It will be funded by profit from the Federal Reserve. Well, I think that's unconstitutional. You can't create an agency that's perpetually funded with no more voting. That went to the Supreme Court, though, and we lost. The Supreme Court ruled that they can fund it that way. The Supreme Court did rule that Trump could fire the person in charge of it. The legislation said even a president could not fire the head.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Trump won that in the first term. But the interesting thing now is for the last three years, the Federal Reserve, even the way they've always measured it, doesn't make a profit. They print their own money and they can't make a profit. So they're running a negative balance right now. now. So really the CFP should get no money. So I've written a letter to the president and to the OMP saying, why don't you just no longer funded or request any money? Now they've gotten to where they're not requesting money and they're reforming it. But I would just shutter the doors. The same way they did
Starting point is 01:37:24 USAID, I would close the doors of CFPB and say there's no more money because the Fed's not running a profit. And I think they could get rid of the agency completely. This is one where the law is actually on their side, and I think they would win in court that by orders of the Congress, it is not to be funded unless there's a profit to come from the Fed. And that makes all the sense in the world. Talking with Senator Rand Paul, the trade deals we keep hearing, I know that a couple of have been coming in. We've got the U.K. trade deal. There's been the reduction in tariffs with China. I had always questioned the sequencing of this. Like, how are we doing tariffs ahead of tax cuts? But here we are. We're in this position. Are you more, are you?
Starting point is 01:38:05 you optimistic now, you know, seeing some of the stuff with China and seeing maybe the U.K. Trade deal, I know that that's kind of been up for debate as to whose consumers, British or Americans, that benefits more. But are we going to, because there's like 70 of them that need to be made in order, you know, to get us off to a, into good footing. Are you confident? Do you think that these are going at a good pace? You know, I think the fundamental argument of whether trade is good or bad needs to occur again, because people have lost this knowledge. Trade is nothing more than an extension of capitalism. Trade is if you go to your local Walmart or you go to a local restaurant, that is trade.
Starting point is 01:38:44 And if your local Walmart buys their goods from overseas, that's also trade between individuals. But no trade occurs that is not mutually beneficial. You will not give your money to McDonald's unless you want that burger more than you want your money. You will not give your money to Walmart unless you want whatever you're purchasing more than you want your money. all trade is mutually beneficial, and we have all gotten richer. But it is an integral part of capitalism. Trade is, there isn't something unique about, oh, trade came, you know, it's not in my county any longer, but I still trade with people in the rest of my state.
Starting point is 01:39:18 I trade with people in Ohio. Just because there are borders and national borders doesn't somehow change trade. Trade is beneficial, and what has happened is the division of labor has spread worldwide, and we're all the richer for it. So that being said, if we erect trade barriers, it will affect prosperity. Right now that if they can get reciprocal arrangements that lower trade barriers, that's good. Every time something has happened that is lessening the expectation of high tariffs, the market responds.
Starting point is 01:39:49 When he announced Liberation Day, the market went down $6.6 trillion in two days. It's largely come back each time the number for the deficit has been lower. So the lower the tariff, the less draconian, the more the marketplace is willing to tolerate it. But the marketplace is millions of people. It's not just me saying tariffs are bad. This is millions of people around the world all trading saying tariffs aren't good for the economy, trade barriers aren't good for the economy and aren't good for the consumer. So I think that debate's worth having. I've been part of that debate because I want our country to continue to thrive.
Starting point is 01:40:27 And I think if we erect barriers, taxation barriers, it's not a good thing. I'm also an old-fashioned conservative. I think you lower taxes to help business. You don't raise taxes. Somehow, conservatives say, oh, well, raising taxes for imports is a good idea, but we want to lower all other taxes. Now, why don't we, if we want to compete with China, let's say China makes four antibiotics that aren't made anywhere else and we're stuck with their supply chain, why don't we eliminate the corporate income tax for those particular antibiotics and see if somebody will make them?
Starting point is 01:40:57 Let's say 10 years of no corporate income tax for a company that will begin to make these things again. I think you would get people into that space, but it also needs to be a long-term goal. It can't be a tariff that's up and down and all over the place over weeks. People are going to build a factory or begin manufacturing something, want some certainty. So since none of these tariffs are laws, they're all directed by the president at his discretion. I'm not sure there's enough certainty for someone to start a whole factory. Now, if it were a law or a 10-year reduction in the corporate income tax for certain industries, I think people might actually build an industry and have a more significant investment.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Or to use your example, just to even repeal Obamacare and get rid of those excise taxes that made it, you know, so financially punitive for R&D and all of that, whether it's for medical devices or, you know, pharmaceuticals, antibiotics, things like that. We wouldn't have to rely on China. One last quick thing for you, Senator. this, because you mentioned, you know, the, the tariffs in the executive order, my concern is that conservatives are, they have a sugar high right now from the, the quick, immediate satisfaction of executive orders. And then when it's too late and they're not able to affect that change legislatively,
Starting point is 01:42:10 we're going to get hit maybe in 2028, however this swings out. Is that, I mean, obviously, that's a concern that you have because you're fighting so hard to make this permanent and heavier than what it is. Yeah. With regard to the tariffs are being done by emergency orders. So we're living under an emergency that President Trump has announced. I worry about if aOC wins in 28 and we have an aOC climate emergency and she says no more gasoline powered cars immediately. So you really don't want a government run by one person because you may like the current president but you may not like the next president. It's always for those of us
Starting point is 01:42:47 who believe in small constitutional government been an argument that no president should have too much power centralized. No federal government should have too much power centralized. True, true, very true. The power needs to be dispersed between the presidency and the Congress, but also between the federal government and the state governments and the local governments. So I continue to make these arguments that we don't want emergency orders, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat president.
Starting point is 01:43:15 I have to tell you, Senator, I think you may be only one of two lawmakers in D.C. who have been consistent to Tea Party ideals back in 2008 and 2009, even when the winds are against you, you have been incredibly consistent, and we appreciate that. Appreciate your time today. Thanks so much. Senator Rand Paul, good to see you. Goldco is making it easy to take that first step toward protecting your savings.
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Starting point is 01:44:35 Follow Dana's absurd truth podcast for bite-size informative episodes, perfect for your busy schedule on Apple or wherever you get your podcast. So I read that the DNC voted to nullify that Vice Twigs victory to win vice chair, that David Hogg twig kid. He's a grown adult man, but I don't know. He's built like a woman. But, yeah, he told me, he said once on CNN that I owned Congress. And then when I criticized CNN and said that they allow slander and all this stuff on their network. and then they had me on the next day to say, no, we don't. I'm like, you literally just had someone on that said that I, you know, kill kids and that I own Congress.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Like, what are you talking about? Anyway, it's not final, but they voted to kick him out of vice chair because of their gender roles. Oh, live by DEI, die by DEI. All right, today's stupidity came. All right, now I got something. This made, I need a little discernment, I think, from you on this one. I love these scenarios. So Hakeem Jeffries, let's just play this, and you tell me whether or not he's threatening law enforcement here.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Listen to this. Your statement the other day after there was this incident in Newark, you said they better not touch our members. Correct. What happens if they were to go and arrest these members or if they would try to sanction them during the House of prison? They'll find out. What would you do, though? I mean, what would you do, of course? I mean, doesn't that broach a...
Starting point is 01:46:06 They'll find out. Doesn't that go across? That's a red line. What's the red line, though? I mean, I know we have the... It's a red line. very clear. Is it clear because you weren't clear at all? He's trying to act tough
Starting point is 01:46:16 but also not answer the question. Exactly. Which is the opposite of tough. So. I'm going to be tough on my vagary here. How are we to interpret that? Which is an oxymoron, but okay. Yeah. I don't know. I may be on Waters World tonight. If you are
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