The Dana Show with Dana Loesch - Trump Vs. Elon Reaches BREAKING POINT, KJP's Book Announcement & Rep. Massie Joins Us

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Trump addresses Elon Musk for the first time since his scathing criticism Tuesday by saying he “doesn’t know if they’ll have a great relationship anymore”. Dana breaks down the strategy from both sides and how the media is feeding into it. Dave Portnoy turns red with rage in an insane meltdown after threatening an employee’s job for suggesting that Jew jokes shouldn't result in prison time. Dana explains how a hive mind will wreck a coalition as the right starts to pick sides. Democrats are absolutely TORCHING Karine Jean-Pierre over the announcement of her new book about her time in The White House. A video from the Boulder suspect surfaces where he declares that Jihad is more important to him than his family. Rep. Thomas Massie joins us to discuss the Big, Beautiful Bill’s points of contention, the carve out for AI regulation and his beef with President Trump.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Ruff Greenshttps://ruffgreens.com/danaJumpstart your pet’s health with a FREE bag from Ruff Greens. Just cover shipping. Use promo code DANA today!Relief Factorhttps://relieffactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Goldcohttps://DanaLikesGold.com Protect your financial future with my trusted gold company—get your GoldCo 2025 Gold & Silver Kit today, and you could qualify for up to 10% in bonus silver.Byrnahttps://byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana receive 10% off. Patriot Mobilehttps://patriotmobile.com/DanaDana’s personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANA.HumanNFind both the new SuperBerine and the #1 bestselling SuperBeets Heart Chews at Sam’s Club!KelTechttps://KelTecWeapons.comSee the third generation of the iconic SUB2000 and the NEW PS57 - KelTec Innovation & Performance at its bestAll Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/DanaCode Dana20 for 20% off your entire order.Angel Studioshttps://Angel.com/danaStream King of Kings, check out fan-picked shows, and claim your member perks.

But if they picked him, I would have won Pennsylvania. I want to buy a lot. But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill, better than almost anybody sitting here, better than you people. He knew everything about it. He had no problem with it. All of a sudden he had a problem. And he only developed the problem when he found out that we're going to have to cut the EV mandate because that's billions and billions of dollars. And it really is unfair. We want to have cars of all types. Electric. We won't have electric. but we want to have gasoline, combustion. We want to have different. We want to have hybrids.

We want to be able to sell everything. And when that was cut, and Congress wanted to cut it, it became a little bit different, and I can understand that. But he knew every aspect of this bill. He knew it better than almost anybody. And he never had a problem until right after he left. And if you saw the statements he made about me, which I'm sure you can get very easily, it's very fresh.

on tape. He said the most beautiful things about me. And he hasn't said bad about me personally, but I'm sure that'll be next. Okay, that's crappy. Come on. I've very disappointed in Elon. And I've helped Elon a lot. So, welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. And, uh, I'm telling you this is, there's several different ways I'm looking at this. Cane, do you remember in the very beginning when, I think it was right after the election. So they were still in the transitory period and Musk was advising and they were forming Doge.

I don't even think that they had announced Doge just yet. And I think, well, they did. I take that back. They had announced Doge and they were discussing Doge. And the media started in with their headlines. I think I'm trying to remember it because some of it's not, some of it, they re-headlines. because I had it saved in my online bookmarks, and the headlines changed.

But essentially, they were trying to plant the seed of division between Musk and Trump. And remember, I was telling you that if they can't get Trump's scalp, they want musks. And if they can't get Musk's scalp, they want the alliance. Now, here's the problem. And again, I'm going to lay this out in a very elementary way. You can like a politician. You can like an elected official. You can like the president.

It doesn't mean that you have to agree with everything that he does. It also doesn't mean that you have to disagree if you don't really disagree. But I think that we've got to be really practical and realistic in how we look at this. I warned everyone, this is a very fragile coalition. And the media is going to look to expose any cracks. and it doesn't help when members of our side play into it. And Republicans absolutely have. And with that remark, Trump absolutely just did.

Trump is very smart. And he, when he says, well, and I'm sure he's going to go and say mean things about me publicly, that isn't him doing it to say, I hope Elon doesn't. He's basically saying, I dare you. and I think Kane you would agree with that because and I don't mean this is a pejorative so please don't look at it that way

I'm not saying this as a put down I think that chick strategy into how you deal with things actually as a mark of intelligence not because women are super smart or smarter than dudes women operate very differently case and point

your girl out there may have beef with someone I don't care how long you've been married or you may not even know I don't care how long you've been married I don't care how long you've been dating I don't care how long you've known her how long you've been related to her

I don't care chances are a female in your life has beef with someone some female and you won't even know about it because chicks operate underhandedly oh my gosh it's so Machiavellian I think Machiavelli may have been a chick

I'm just saying you read the prince and you're like that sounds like a girl it's so underhanded dudes fight it out like a dude will go wait a minute i don't like what you just said yeah you don't like what i just said what of it and then they fight and then they get over it that's what always flummox that's flummoxed as chicks we can't figure that out we're like wait a minute now you guys are friends again because once a chick doesn't like you dude we don't like you for forever it is just the way of things i don't know how you would explain that in terms of biology or sex

I just don't know, but that's just the way it is. And every woman out there listening right now in unison is going, mm-hmm, that's right. And these ladies know it too. I have friends that are women that I know all their beefs. And the men in our lives have no clue. And that's fine. That's the way it should be.

But there are some things that dudes will do. And when they're used to this kind, when they're used to negotiating and this kind of, you know, these machinations, they incorporate. some of this stuff. So him going, well, I'm sure he's probably going to say something. That's a chick move. Because he's not saying, well, I'm going to be really heard if he says anything about me publicly. He's not saying that. He's not saying, well, so many people turn on me. I just know that he probably will too. He's not saying that like he is sharing with you a great sorrow. He's saying that like, I double dog dare you, you expletive. That's what he's doing. And you know that,

Kane. That's what a chick would do, right? Yeah, it's a little womany. I mean, it's a psychology. And we only say that it's womany because women tend to use it. And when dudes use it, when a dude uses tactics like that, that's when you should go, wait a minute. Yeah, like, what's the end game here? Like if you know a man, a straight dude who gossips with you, that man is dangerous. That is one of the most dangerous dudes ever because they get the psyche out. They get it.

So that's what I'm just explaining that to you. Because when he said that, I was like, oh my gosh, come on. no it's like what my grandma would do right she would say something like that well i'm sure they're just not going to be here for thanksgiving then you know and she wasn't saying it like well i'm going to be so sad i'm sharing my sorrow with you that you know this particular grandchild won't be here for thanksgiving no she was saying i double dog dare you you brat to not be here for thanksgiving that's what grandma was meaning and you all know it it's true sounds like you don't like old people now oh i love old people

people. I'm not like you. I mean, I get you hate old people and all that. And you think they're dangerous and scary. That's okay. That's not fair. That's all right. You know. So, um, I, I, I got to say, I, I think that Trump's representation of Musk is a misrepresentation. And I don't think it's fair to say, well, he liked this bill until, uh, the EV mandates. That's not actually accurate. Can we play audio sound by one? I want you to listen to the timeline that Speaker Johnson says, in this statement. Listen. Elon Musk just said we need a brand new bill that doesn't grow the deficit. He was actually quote tweeting a video view from the press conference this morning saying he tried

to reach him last night. Do you have any response? He says we need a brand new bill that doesn't grow the deficit. Elon, look, we don't have time for a brand new bill. And I want Elon and all my friends to recognize the complexity of what we've accomplished here. This extraordinary piece of legislation, a record number of savings, record tax cuts for the American people and all the other benefits in it. We worked on the bill for almost 14 months. I'm sorry, what? 14 months?

And we should have a great product. Kane, how long is Trump been in the White House? Not quite even six yet. Almost six. 14 months. So this isn't even Trump's bill. Although he's claiming it, though, at this point. But that's not even his bill.

So this is the Swamps bill. If they've been working on this for 14 months, this is the Swamp's Bill. Now, I think that's interesting because one of the other things, too is that Musk has called for ending the EV tax credits for forever. He has said it over and over again. We've played audio on this show.

He has said he's tweeted about it. Take away the subsidies. It will only help Tesla. He doesn't want, he goes, I think we should get rid of all of the credits. When asked by the hill, he said, I think we should get rid of all of the credits. When asked again by Politico, he said he supports getting

rid of all of the EV credits. he supports getting rid of all of the subsidies he doesn't support any of it and here's the other thing from what i understand i don't even think most of the model most of tesel's models are i don't even think that they qualify do they from what i understand i think it was the older models that qualified i don't even think the newer ones qualify so i um the other thing too is that when it comes to subsidies. I'm just going for a seat. This is CBS. And this is a story that I had saved. This is from June of 23. I'm going to drop this in Slack for you guys real quick. This is June 23. Sorry, CBT. So everybody got a EV, everybody, actually all automakers except Tesla got

subsidies under Biden. Huh. Remember, Biden shut them out entirely. He didn't even invite them to the, he didn't even invite Tesla to the summit at the White House. And the mandate that they're talking about, this means that vehicles sold. You have to have all vehicles sold by whatever date to be electric. And that's different from the credits.

And Musk is on record in opposing the mandate also. So what Trump is just describing here is not accurate. It's not true. The things that he's saying. This is the piece that Juan is showing you on the simulcast. If you're watching Channel 347 or the stream, that's one of the articles. And in this article, it gets into how Tesla didn't get anything. Routinely, Tesla did not get it.

And the mandates, the EV mandate, I mean, it's essentially an incentive, and they're incentivizing it. And it's like a reverse syntax in a way. So they're incentivizing it, like in a reverse. reverse syntax to get people to purchase EVs so that they can claim a certain percentage of vehicles sold and owned by whatever date are EVs. And he actually has never supported that. And a lot of people pointed out that, well, the media in the past would try to seize upon it as a way to drive a wedge between him and his shareholders, saying, oh, well, he's not acting

in the best interest of his shareholders if he doesn't support these mandates. Oh, Musk isn't acting in that. I mean, he's getting attacked on all sides. I don't agree with the guy on everything, but I think that the way that basically people are going at him because he can't be used right now. It's interesting. And their, I mean, the market that they have, et cetera, they've been under attack a lot. This would, he would actually, if he really, if this was about EV mandates as Trump was claiming, which I thought was a great impugnation of his character.

of musk's character if it was about that then musk would support this bill he could easily get a carve out like oh i want tesla in this i want tesla to get the lion's share of this i want this to be most incentivized for tesla the funny thing is is that he could do it and i think most people who are on the right wouldn't bat an i can you know i'm right kane you know i'm right most people would be like okay because he's one of ours i'm not what they are that's that's where consistent since he comes in. But he isn't doing that. But like I said, the EV mandate, it's not so much a mandate as it is a reverse syntax incentive. But this is just ingenious. It's dishonest what he just said about him at the press conference. And I don't need to go in and be like a white night

for Musk or anything like that. But I just think that that's not accurate. And I think that it plays into what the media wants. The media wants division. The media wants to rock the coalition. and they look at the Musk-Trump alliance and friendship as being the lynchpin for that. If they can take that, then they can start picking away at the other aspects of the coalition. Because the left, for as much as we make fun of them for being stupid and focusing on dumb things, yes, but there is a faction of them that are incredibly smart. There's a reason why they've been able to stick around for so long, despite having horrific financial policy.

they've been able to stick around for a long time for a reason and I think people are overplaying their hand and underestimating that particular faction on the left. If they can drive this wedge, if they can claim that alliance, then they're going to start picking off the rest of the coalition.

They've already started. And the right does not need to help them. Republican lawmakers do not need to help them. The president does not need to help them. This is why fights like this should be kept private. And I do think to an extent that they were. I don't doubt for a second that, you know, you have two boardroom

guys. I don't doubt for a second that they tried to solve this privately. But I also suspect that there are a lot of people in Trump's inner circle that have advantages for them to not solve it amicably privately. And that's a real reality. That was a problem that plagued him his first term. I think with the addition of some of the people in Trump's campaign, that's why you're not seeing the leaks the way that you did. But I do think that those competitive factions still exist within the circle. And I'm just saying, this is not the time to be doing this. We don't have the time. We're actually behind schedule now. We have a lot more on the way as we have days of these United States. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends at Patriot

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him out and not mention it, not care that this kid, idiot. Not at all. Shut up. If you just want me to ignore it. Don't tell me, don't tell me to shut up. Don't shut the fuck up, you bald. Okay, go ahead. Isn't that one of those guys? How's that? Oh, it's killer. I'll never recover from that, Dave.

Go ahead. Continue. I'll never recover. Well, you're the one who, like, oh, big boss, man. Don't tell. I'll tell you work for me. Okay, go ahead. Continue. You work for me. Sure, you bet. For now. Oh, you know.

Okay. I got to interject here. All of this is happening because they were arguing over whether or not somebody's job should be at risk over jokes about Jewish people. And I think that they're conflating. The guy was insubordinate. If you're the employee, I can't go to my boss and talk to my boss like that. I can't. Nobody can't.

There's insubordination and then there's, oh, well, I didn't like it that you made a joke. And I think Portnoy had less of a problem with the latter and more of a problem with the outright disrespect. that's within the insubordination. But we've got, you know, single cell amoebas out there who are going, oh, but it had to do with the juke jokes. No, it didn't. It had to do with insubordination. And if you think that somehow insubordination is allowed, then let's do a social experiment.

I want you to go to your boss and tell them to go do something unflattering to themselves and see how long you get your check after that. Case closed. Good luck. Yeah, good luck with that one. All right. So coming up, the big divide on the right, the fight is finally here. and we got all the latest on that.

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Our interest payments are higher than our defense department budget. That's, I think, was the real wake-up call for me, was looking at seeing that the interest payments, the national debt, exceeded the Defense Department budget, and that was only growing over time, which meant if we didn't do something about this, then there won't be any money for anything. And he's right. I mean, I think, you know, one of the big things, and especially one of the big things that's in this, in this bill as it pertains to defense.

spending, defense spending isn't a sacred cow. And I think that when you have an entity that has failed seven audits in a row, I think that needs to be rectified. I know that we're in weird times in terms of China and the South Sea and the Pacific and, you know, with all of the, you know, neocons, we need to go fight Russia and Iran and everything else. But I think you've got to make sure that it's sustainable. That, I mean, that has to be remedied before we just start. And a lot of the money that's being spent. Like, for instance, in parts of the bill, they're talking about allocating billions of dollars for manned flights when everything has been going into unmanned aerial battle, drone warfare. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you.

It's at the top of this second hour. A complete civil war is broken out on the right because you have the fight between Elon Musk and now Trump. And now it's actually kind of a fight because it decided they, I don't know if both of them decided. I don't know if both of them decided, I don't know who went public first. Does it matter, Kane? No. It went public. Does it matter how? I don't think so. Yeah. So, now they're going back and forth. Musk is on X. Just letting it fly. It's, uh, Trump earlier, uh, during a press availability with the, uh, German, uh, prime minister had addressed it. And then must, Oh, there, there you go.

Juan's got it. That's just one of the mini posts on X that Elon Musk has. Like, where is this guy today and has all of his previous tweets? Oh, my goodness. So it's, um, it's going to be a mess. And, and this is what I had said just a little bit ago on X. The, there is this very fragile coalition on the right. The last time we had a coalition.

I would say, was maybe during the Tea Party era, like 2008, 2009. And it was a lot of us, you had people who were constitutionalists. That's the best, that's how I describe myself. You know, conservative constitutionalists. I like to conserve the individual. You had Republicans. You had libertarians, capital L and lowercase L. Independence.

You had some moderates. Everybody came together because it was, what, reduced spending, more about empowering the individual over the state. And everyone came together on that, delivered a whopping victory in 2010 midterm elections that cost Barack Obama, his control in the house. They took a shalacking and really hurt him. And so, you know, then we kind of bobbed along and, you know, sort of, you know, you wouldn't have had Trump today without that movement. But now it's weird because that movement, I think, eventually led to Trump. But now we've got a lot of. I don't say this like talking about baseball, but like Bush League, and it's just the best way I can describe big spending Republicans.

Like Republicans who think that government should actually be a facilitator to things as opposed to limiting everything to the enumerated powers of Article 1, Section 8. So it's a really weird spot. And because now we have this populist layer to it and populism is not principles, it's a tactic. So populist, saying that you're a populist is not the same as saying you're a conservative. You're just saying, I like this tactic. It doesn't describe a set of principles because the left can be populist. So that's why you can say that you like populism, but it's weird when I hear people say they're a populace because that is a tactic.

It's not a set of ideals. So that tactic, though, has been used quite a bit in the past, you know, what, 10 years. And as a result of that, the rights started getting into high. hive mind the way that the left did. And this is why I always think that's dangerous. You cannot have a coalition and a hive mind mentality. Look at the left. When was the left at its most powerful? They had a coalition. You used to, used to have pro-life Democrats. And they ran them out of the party. They literally changed their platform. Do you remember what DNC it was? Where they did that cane it was like in the aughts i thought and i remember that there were um members of the party

when they were trying to solidify their new rules package for the dnc that were objecting and they were booed out of the room there was video of it because we played it on air when you cover this so much some of it becomes a haze but i remember they were booed off air um there were democrat candidates that were told if you are a pro-life democrat you will no longer receive funding from the DCCC, and that's the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee or the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. They were officially not going to help candidates who described themselves or advertised themselves as pro-life Democrats. They went after pro-Second Amendment Democrats. There used to be Democrats that actually they were, I guess you could call them moderates now or

independence, but they did not bind a gun control. They were hunters. You know, they were more Democrat because they were union blue collar. And now you don't. I mean, it's, they've changed so much. They wanted everything to be streamlined and siloed. There were no, there's no deviations from the rule. That's how you kill a coalition. The right started getting into that, where you couldn't disagree with anyone. And, you know, I've said this before, but there were people who would attack me if I would disagree with parts of Trump's policy. And I know Trump. Like, my gosh, he personally asked me to introduce him at CPAC. he was on my show all the time

when I was in St. Louis. All the time the man was coming on. We got along great. Knew his family. I still know him. And I, he's always been incredibly kind and gracious. Can't say that about everybody in his inner circle. But I don't agree with him on everything. I don't agree with my husband. I have Ken and I don't agree on everything. Like, he hates old people and I think that's me. We don't agree with every, you know, we always don't agree.

He's constantly pushing probiotics. You know, I'm just saying, you know. but my point is is that the hive mind kills a coalition and that's what we're seeing right now and Elon Musk is not one of those to fall in line

and I'm not saying this as like to stand him or anything else I'm just pointing out that this is the problem you will get individuals in your coalition that we just want consistency we want to be left alone and we want consistency from our lawmakers

That's how I've always been. And I'm not the only one. And you're not going to be able to get those people in line with heavy hands. It's not going to happen because they just dig in harder. You are also not going to have a healthy coalition by demanding that everybody always agree and that no and question your principles. And this is the problem. I mean, this coalition is on the edge of a knife. This is like, because I can bring everything back to Lord of the Rings.

This is like what Gladriel, what she told the fellowship in, this was what, the first, in the fellowship of the ring. And they were at Gladiol's house and she told them that, you know, your fellowship is on the edge of a knife. One false move and everything falls apart. You know, there has to be consistency in going towards this objective. And that's, and the left knows this. the left did not push the right there. What the left does is they just magnify and amplify any division. Coalitions are going to have divides.

I think a lot of people on the right expected the coalition to all agree, and that's never going to happen. That's not how coalitions work. You have your party, and then you have the coalition. The party agrees on everything. They're all on the same page. The coalition, there's certain things they agree with and certain things they don't. The Reagan rule was, my 80% friend is not my 20% enemy.

and the right has never figured out the art of disagreeing and remaining united they've never figured that out they have no idea how to do that and so the left didn't push the right here the right did it themselves because they keep taking the stupid bait Trump takes the bait everybody takes the bait Republican lawmakers take the bait I see some activists that take the bait

talking heads take the bait the left in the legacy press they wanted Trump's scalp they couldn't get it they wanted Musk's scalp they couldn't get it so they figured if they can't take them individually then we'll go after the alliance, and that's the first domino in the coalition. They view Musk as being the lynchpin. Let me make this point incredibly clear. Blind loyalty has no place in a free republic at all. People are free to agree and disagree based on the merits of an issue. This entire nation was built on criticizing its lawmakers.

and the policies and erring grievances with all of it. The people who do not understand these basic concepts are as great a threat to this republic as the legacy press and the identity politic left that they purport to oppose. And like I said, there is an absolute art to disagreeing and remaining united. And the right has not figured it out, as evidenced by now, all of the fighting being done publicly.

And I'm all about a good public debate. What I don't like are the disingenuous statements made in support of one side or another. You know, like for instance, people have every right to criticize the big, beautiful bill. If you support it, in spite of all that, whatever. But people have every right to criticize it. We have every right to point out, okay, you keep telling us about these so-called tax cuts, but no one, everybody talks about the tax cuts, fails to mention that they're temporary. They sunset in 2028, right as we're going into another presidential election cycle.

Dangerous. This is the time to do it. I think our strategy has fallen apart. part. I think there's some kind of crazy mission crete now, and I have no idea what the right is doing. We've got to figure it out. We have to figure it out. Now, I wanted to, there's a couple of things, because one of the aspects, this rarely happens with me, one of the aspects of this bill, this big, beautiful bill, which is separate from the rescissions package. I haven't been super critical on, but I have thought that it is.

is a very big issue, and I wanted to figure out more about it. And that has to do with the AI regulation that's in the bill. And we had on yesterday, Congressman Rich McCormick, who is on the Cyber Technologies, et cetera, subcommittee. And he made a very good point about it, because the portion of the bill that pertains to AI was saying that states will essentially for the next 10 years not have the ability to regulate AI on their own. And I thought, that's a dangerous thing. Why are we limiting states' rights? Well, in the context of interstate commerce and national security, I do understand it. And I think for the first time listening to a lawmaker, I may be changing my opinion on it. That's never happened, Kay. I mean, like maybe one time, but that's

maybe. It's a big deal. It's a big deal. I never. Usually I'm just, disagreement with most of them. But I thought that Representative McCormick, he really knows, you can tell that he's done a lot of legwork on this. And he made some very good points. And we're going to address this in context with what Marjorie Taylor Green is saying on the floor about this aspect of the bill that she claimed she didn't read. And we're going to talk about this coming up after headlines.

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there's always stories like this and I'm so tired of it they're saying now there's an external factor that turns a male mammal into a FEMA shut up this is not even science this is not I'm so tired of this don't they always do this

like every every make every all the things gay month so the telegraph the British it's the British version of Pravda they said that POTUS killed Pride Month

they had Alpha bed events across the country that faced budget shortfalls as corporate sponsors ducked out in fear. I don't think it's an issue of, I think it was the, A, it's the trans stuff and the grooming. I don't think corporations had any individually objections to like, you know, pride events. I think it's when they started doing the transing of everything and that, that there was an issue. But that, like, this has been an issue even before POTUS, just FYI. So I don't know. A burning cargo ship carrying 3,000 vehicles was abandoned off of the coast of Alaska. 3,000.

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And I just find these kind of people, I literally, my instinct is, and they tell me that. They look at me right in the eye. And I, no, you just want your tax cut. Well, I mean, what's wrong with, so wait, if you want a tax cut, are you a Nazi? I guess. Only Nazis want tax cuts. This is where James Carville loses it. I don't understand his reasoning. Oh, yeah, they'll vote for Nazis just to get a tax. Isn't that, isn't that anti-Semitic kind of? Kind of sounds anti-Semitic. Just saying, hmm, welcome back to the program. Dana Lash, with you are at the bottom of the second hour. You can listen coast to coast.

let's see channel 347 direct tv youtube facebook chats at rumble for now the um yeah it's a it's a thing i i'm just i'm looking at um we're gonna we're gonna continue following this bill i know there's a vote next to wednesday as it pertains to the rescissions package and we're gonna we'll cover that because you have the big beautiful bill separate from the rescissions package and the big beautiful bill that's the thing that's in the senate uh and then that's gonna have to kick back over. Can I touch really quickly on this Corrine Jean-Pier book?

So, Kane, what's the count? How many of these former staffers have now written books? Oh, wow. That's good question. I think

well, if you count Jake Tapper as a former staffer, because some people do. Well, he was in the Clinton camp. Right. for sure, but, oh, he was in the Biden camp. Well, no, I know, but he actually literally worked on the Clinton campaign. So Corrine Jean-Pierre has announced that she's written a book about the broken Biden White House and what she sees as the betrayal of Biden by the Democrat Party.

And she apparently thought, well, other people thought she was apparently totally incompetent. Democrats thought she was incompetent. And now her book, it's called Independent, a look inside a broken White House outside the party lines. She announces that she's leaving the Democrat Party and she's got a new book out. Oh, it's totally thirsty. It's completely thirsty. No one believe, first off, no one believes that she's smart enough to write a book. Number one, number two, no one believes that this was all organic. She is just pivoting because she's seeing which way the wind blows. The money-making opportunities for talking people on the left are going to be moving to the center. That's going to be the thing for them because that pendulum is swinging back

towards the other way. And so they're not going to make money by being on the left. They're going to make money by being centrist. That's what it is. And they're going to go to the center of things. And that's going to be their grift for a while. I don't know how you can do that. I really don't know. I don't know how you can profess ideas that you actually don't hold and act like it's a big thing, right? I don't get it. Like I told you guys at the end of the show yesterday that we had an offer from a group to read ads for them. And they're doing a $4 million ad buy across numerous states. And they wanted us to read copy. And the copy, and they were like, we need to know your answer now. And the copy they were asking me to read was about making the tax cuts permanent.

And I'm like, oh, well, that's a nice thing. Who doesn't like it? Well, then the way that I, had to do some digging because they were very, very vague with their wording. And I found out that, oh, well, they want everyone to, they want me to tell people to call their lawmakers and urge the, urge the passage of the big, beautiful bill, which I don't agree with. And it's also a lie because the tax cuts within it. I've literally read it. I've highlighted that portion of the bill for you on my substack are temporary. And so I had, I said, no, I'm not going to accept any money. And I'm not going to read this thing. I'm not going to read it. I'm not going to read it. I got to tell you, there is a whole industry that people will take money completely on

the right and left and they will profess ideas that are not their own. It's really easy to see on the right. The left has been doing it for years. The right just figured out the grift. But the left has been doing it for years. But the people on the right, you can see it fairly easily. But I can't imagine, like sitting and talking to you guys every day, everybody out there in the audience, whether you're watching or listening, and like professing an idea that I don't believe in. I just, either I am not, either I would be a horrible actress in another life, or I don't know, I just can't, there's no way. I can't figure out how, and she has the whole book on it, Carine Jean-Pierre. So, Cain, what do you think, where does she, do you think that she really believed this stuff that she was, when she was a member of the administration as a Democrat, was that her real belief, or is this her real belief?

To be honest with you, I don't really know, but I suspect at the time she was the White House press secretary that she was doing. what she was told to do because she had zero experience in this area she was put she was thrust out there in front of everyone saying things like amiritis and tyranny and oh my gosh pipeline it was clear her experience was nil so i think she was just a yes person and just doing what she was told to do yeah well the other democrats are really mad at her for coming out be like, well, ta-da, here's my big reveal. We're all mad at it. I'm just, I'm not mad because that means that I would have had a hope disappointed and I had none.

That's a good point. I apply the stoics mentality. Stoicism is a great ideology for things like this. I don't expect anything and I have the worst opinion of everybody. So that way I'm always pleasantly surprised. Actually, that's a good way to do it. I just get upset because I see how the media treats two different administrations. They gave KJP so much grace and didn't challenge her on pretty much anything. And Carolyn Leavitt can be out there with 100% facts and they keep pushing on her as though she's lying. Carolyn Leavitt is like the younger sister of Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Yeah. More energetic and just. They both have this. I'm going to pull the minivan over and beat your ass like a mentality. Sarah Sanders, I think, seemed a little bit more. I like her a lot. She seemed a little bit more. Are you kidding me?

Like, I think she actually would do it. But you're right. And, oh, my gosh, some of the stuff that cage, I mean, I don't want to relitigate it because we lived it. But they said that, so one of the pieces that I was reading about her this morning was Axios and it said the fighting within Biden world. Okay, so let's talk for a minute about the fighting within Biden world because right now the media only wants to focus on Trump and Musk and the coalition on the right. Now, granted, that's a fragile coalition. I get it. I'm not subtracting from that.

But do you realize the problems are very different? And here's why. The problem on the right is because there are a lot of people and they have a lot of ideas that are on a spectrum of good to bad. But there are a lot of people with a lot of ideas, right? There is no shortage of people or proposals. on the left who do they have

trying to think who do they have on the left who do they have I want you to wherever you are I want you to just do this quick exercise with me it's under 60 seconds I want you to stop for a minute

and I want you to think if Democrats had to run another candidate for president right now who would they run who would even be their VP who would they fill in their cabinet who would they have in their cabinet

it. If Democrats had to have a Speaker of the House, a legitimate speaker who was not a moron and actually understood parliamentary procedure, who would they be able to have in the House even? Because Pelosi's actually too old. I mean, think of all of these important benchmarks. They don't have anybody. They don't have anybody. They're having an existential crisis right now. they lied to their base said no this old fart is totally fit to run he's a fit old fart he's ready to run oh wait no he's not we're going to switch him out and we're going to put Kamala who is completely not ready for prime time and she won't ever be ready for prime time she is a total nepo baby Kamala Harris has been given handout after a handout after

hand out has she ever actually had a run for a seat because I think she's been appointed to everything her whole life. I mean, aside from when she was on the presidential ticket, but that's, you know, she was just sort of dead weight there. Everything. She was groomed. Everything was handed to her because she checked all these boxes. She just, what she lacked in personality, substance, smarts, and any kind of presence,

she made up for in spades with, you know, favors and nepotism and handouts. So now, instead of administer. admitting that they went along with this whole grift. Now they're all trying to write books on, oh, no, I too was surprised. What do you mean you were surprised? You were there in from the beginning. You were in that man's pocket. How are you surprised? Like, I'm looking at this and they said, oh, she was, oh, man, and they're coming for her with knives out. I think people are not going to read her book. I predict that her book will not be a bestseller because A, girlfriend did not write this book this is a ghostwritten book b well listen to this she had meltdowns after

after any interview that asked about a topic not sent over by producers that's one one source she was the most ineffectual and unprepared person i've ever worked with that's another source she didn't know how to manage a team how to shape or deliver a message and created more problems than she solved said another another one the hubris of thinking you can position yourself as an outsider when you've not only enjoyed the perks of extreme proximity to power which bestows the name recognition needed to sell books off your name, but have actively wielded it from the biggest pulpit there is as breathtaking as it is desperate, and it's difficult to see how this is anything but a bizarre cash grab. Another one. The amount of time that was spent coddling her and

appeasing her was astronomical compared to our attention on actual matters of substance. Oh my gosh. Wow. Wow. Oh, man. Their quotes are coming. still oh oh oh oh and there's a lot of receipts apparently hmm like one of them said this is my favorite quote from her and it was apparently something that she had herself on instagram quote we need to stop thinking in boxes and think outside of our boxes yeah how is she different from Kamala it's like they share the same brain cell oh my gosh

so now the chat thinks it'll be newsome and more Gavin Newsom Westmore Newsom is almost ready for prime time but not in a there's a lot of his baggage that I don't know if it's going to stand up to national scrutiny that'll be a big one but who do they have that's the existential crisis on the left all these people I've never seen so many people

in a presidential administration rushing out to right smack about their former boss. Not even with Trump. You didn't even have this many people running out writing this many books under Trump this first term. I was pretty unbelievable. You didn't have anybody with Obama. I always am going to tell you that it's incredibly important to make sure I think you should carry. I think you should train. I think you should carry. And I have no problem using lethal force to defend myself or my loved ones. The issue is that in some instances we're blocked from being able to adequately defend ourselves, whether it is due to municipal restriction, whether it's due to, you know, private property rules, whatever. And I especially

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blah Florida man pleads guilty to stealing pool floats for sexual gratification for what oh man for yeah personal romantic times with a pool float 41 year old Christopher Monin

apparently he's had several pool float theft related incidents over the years he stored oh my gosh 75 of them in a vacant house and yeah he would steal only the pool floats he would enter the victim's back pool area

or cut through screens or whatever and steal them he admitted via smoking gun what it was for now he's on what they call a community control sentence which is an intensive form of probation that's like house arrest I mean he apparently told the police that he

uses the floats instead of raping women can we kill him is it all right if we just murk him off the earth can we do that because I feel like it's a matter of time was it like all a certain kind of floaty like a certain they didn't get into it but I'm imagining things that he can mount

if you're asking me, which I hope you're not. Florida man sues universal for $50,000 after a Harry Potter ride malfunctioned and left him stranded midair for an hour, an hour. Is that, I'm just wondering, is that what his time is worth $50,000 for an hour? So he was stranded, his name is Casey Kossi.

Of course it is. He said he suffered mental anguish. I just got anguish from his name. That he suffered mental anguish. He was on this park ride. And he came to an abrupt stop. It strained the car mid-air at an angle that left him tilted backward into the right. And it took an hour for him to be removed from it and put into an upright position.

So he's suing on two counts, premises, liability, and negligence. Well, I get it. They said that it had similar problems in the past. $50,000. I'm just wondering what that's for. I mean, do I think that they probably are going to have to pay up? But 50,000 seems, I don't know. A Florida man hits an alligator, flips over the bike, and slides across the freeway.

Oh, my gosh. Two motorcyclists struck a six-foot gator on Interstate 4 in Volusia County. One was hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries, and both were, and they're now recovering. They recounted the crash, and apparently they had it on, like, they had like a little helmet camera, and you could see it. I mean, it happened so fast, and they're recovering. The gator was injured, and they had to have Florida Fish on Wildlife come and deal with the gator. They thought it was a big blob on the road at first, and it was a gator. And the guy said, help me, Jesus.

So they're okay. And the gator, I guess, they don't know the total, the extent of the injuries, but I think they're rehabilitating it. That's all we know. good night that's let's see here oh no not that one not going to do that one this one nope we had that one

nope I don't oh my gosh okay oh no these are so gross this is the the most innocent one I can use a Florida man was caught on camera using a beach Ormond Beach car wash as a bathroom

yeah he was defecating in the car wash and it was all caught on security footage and he used the towels that they would oh my gosh the story gets grosser and grosser uh yeah it was on west granada boulevard it was an ormond beach car wash and apparently a guy 80 year old man relieved himself beside his car in the vacuuming area and then did a deuce and then used the towels that they used to wipe off the car and then threw it like it was just another windshield wipe into the basket of all the other towels. That's gross.

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We know that there are other groups that routinely wear masks. NSE 131 routinely wears masks. Mayor, just a clarifier. Are you comparing ICE, you said, to NSC 131, a neo-Nazi group? Are you comparing them to a neo-Nazi group? What I said is that Boston police and no police department that I know of at the local level routinely wears masks. I mean, she literally just gave a press conference the other day where she was,

or she's given press conferences wearing masks. So is she a neo-Nazi? Just curious. What are they going to do when, didn't she mask up? Wasn't she one of those people that encouraged everybody to mask up during the Rona? Yeah. So ridiculous. Also, she's consistently for the criminals.

She's never for her safety of the constituents for the safety of those people. No. It's always the criminal. Never was. It's always neo-Nazis. by the way, remember, the reason why they, that border agents are having to protect their privacies, is because the left is, and helped encourage cartels to go after them. I mean, it's kind of a big deal.

So they actually have to because cartels have been targeting border agents and their families and putting out, you know, bolos on them. Welcome back to the program, top of this third hour, Dana Lash with you. You can listen coast to coast as well. coming up we've got, when do we have Congressman Massey on? In 24 minutes

and some change. Okay, I was just looking at the rundown. Okay. So very interesting. We'll have a discussion with him coming up. There's a lot of stuff

that happened today and we've got a vote on rescissions next week and we have this battle over the big beautiful bill right now. It's a lot happening. But in the meantime,

we have an update about, you know, that terrorist who's in who set people on fire, by the way. Lorraine is a great piece up over at Substack. Chapter and Verse, for you subscribers. They released more details about that terror attack in Boulder.

Remember the guy who was here illegally? He's not a neo-Nazi, apparently, according to the Boston mayor. Fifteen people now injured, including eight women, seven men, between the ages of 25 and 88 and one dog, the dog. The terrorist told police that he had planned this for over a year. and he made a video before the attack. You tell me if you think this is just a bolder dad. Audio sound by nine.

He's saying all is greater than F-35 planes and blah, blah, blah. He's talking about the Zionists. So he made this video. Put it on us. I guess he wanted his family to do terrorism too. I'm going to be it from the be it. So my banal, Allah, he'll say to

every day Asherats You're terrorists. God are terrorists. This Godinz, Allah is abacabre, I mean, he's evil, and he set Jewish people on fire. He was going to do a heck of a lot more. He was carefully researching his targets. He addressed as a groundskeeper. He even bought plants from home. Depot to really sell the ideal. And then when enough of the crowd had gathered, Lorraine had noted he used the hose that was on his backpack to spray gasoline on everybody and then try to light them and then lit them up with a homemade flamethrower. When that didn't work the way at want,

he used the Molotov cocktails and he had hid those in the bushes. But then he winded up lighting himself on fire and he ripped off his shirt and his vest to get the fire off of him. That's why he didn't have a shirt on in the videos. And then he said that he only threw two because he said he had never heard anybody before. And Lorraine says that she thinks it was because he got hurt because he singed himself with the fire of the Molotov cocktails and that kind of scared him. And so he didn't do more. And remember, this guy, he was here illegally. His visa expired. Then he applied for asylum. And then Biden gave him a work visa. And then that visa expired last March. And his daughter, They're all Egyptian nationals.

And all the, the whole family was here illegally. And DHS was going to deport them all. And you remember hearing these sob stories. The daughter was like, I wanted to study medicine in the United States. You were here illegally. You're a grown woman. You were here illegally. And at no time did you take it upon yourself to legalize your status.

So I'm sure you can study medicine in Egypt. And so they were all going to be deported. Well, then this judge stepped in. This judge, Susanna Dvorsen, or sorry, she's the attorney. She's the immigration attorney in Boulder, Colorado, who filed the case. But they had a judge that stepped in and was like, nope, we're not going to allow this deportation to happen. It was a Biden judge that halted the attempt. they said it could cause, quote, irreparable harm to deport them.

Now, on a scale of one to ten, like setting someone on fire and then having to study medicine in Egypt instead of the U.S., how would you rate that reparable harm? Goodness. And then the, of course, the immigration attorney in Boulder is a big O Socialist who Elaine noted once worked as an elector for a Marxist candidate in California. And she also didn't disclose a lot of stuff back in 2007 and got fired from her job back then. So it sounds like a real stand-up person. It makes sense that she's defending a terrorist. But the idea, all these individuals were coming out saying that it was just so mean, Cain, that POTUS was, and DHS, they were all, they wanted to deport this sweet daughter, who we actually still don't know the extent of her participation in all of this. But again, she's here illegally.

Well, by his own admission, he cared more for jihad than he did his own family. family. He said that. So it's not, we're just accommodating his wishes. I mean, this is how USA Today wrote it. A Boulder Suspect's daughter dreamed of studying medicine. And now she faces deportation. It's so sad. Yeah, because she's here illegally. The end. She's been here illegally for over a year. The end. Do you know, so I know I've told the story before, but let me just tell you how this doesn't fly in other countries. One of the, when I used to go, I do my fox hits from my studio here, but I used to have to go to a different studio in downtown Dallas and there was a, they always would have a makeup artist there that would get you ready for TV and she was always very nice and she had a daughter who went to study art in Ireland and she got her undergrad degree and I think it was like two, a month and a half, two months before she graduated. She got a notice from the Irish government saying that they were aware that she was going to be graduating and she had X amount of days after her graduation to leave the country unless she was planning on staying and seeking higher education in a specialized field at which point she would

need the Irish immigration officials to sign off on her being able to stay longer legally, right? And they kept following up with her. They started calling her. She even had a visit and then she applied and wanted to stay. She didn't want to take graduate classes. She wanted to just stay in Ireland and she was going to just take a couple of college classes here or there. But they said that because those credits didn't count for anything towards a grad degree and it was at her same level or lower of education

that they could not grant her request and so she had to leave. And they showed up. They said they were going to show up on the last day that she would allow to be here in the country legally to make sure she was leaving. and she left before that last day but she and the style the artist was saying

that her daughter was a little left-leaning was just put out of sorts by that like she couldn't believe that Ireland was being so mean it's like they have the right to do that though that's their country like if you're not going to stay there and really contribute and you're just going to take a couple of same level classes

they have no obligation to continue to allow you to stay so she ended up coming back we don't do that here that's in Ireland Now, Ireland is a super, they're super lefty. They're super lefty. The people's Republic, the Republic Ireland, very lefty.

I mean, they, you know, the abortion laws, everything else. But that's one law that they apparently weren't really messing around with. I think that's changed in recent years. This happened like six, seven years ago. But even then, can you imagine if we did that here? Kane, can you imagine? Instead of having all these stupid immigration judges, what if it was just that nobody actually goes and sees again? If we had, yeah, we're going to make sure you're leaving.

Yeah. there's nothing wrong with that she was her stay was not going to be in line with what they wanted and so that doesn't and they have the ultimate authority on that that makes sense right no this but this girl she thought she could still stay they're still investigating the family it would be unusual if the family wasn't involved and i think if you know that your dad's a terrorist and he's planning on killing people and you don't say anything you need to go anyway I mean, you can't sit here and tell me that this guy, I mean, this guy is such a, is such a fanatic. You cannot tell me that they were unaware.

Like, did he just, like, not talk about any of this stuff at home? Honestly. I mean, he's sitting here saying that he cares about jihad more than his wife and kids. You tell me. You really think that this guy didn't talk about this stuff at home. And he, and you heard him say he had asked his wife and son to apparently do some things. And when they didn't do it the way he wanted, he got mad. So, yeah, I'm pretty.

sure the family knew. They all got to go, regardless. We have no obligation to keep them here. No obligation to keep them here. And the people who argue otherwise, I mean, why don't you just go ahead and probe and we'll go back to the days of the fall of Rome when you had the Visigoths and the Goss and the Huns and the Parbarians and everyone else. And Rome thought that they just had to open their doors to everyone and make everyone a citizen regardless of whatever. And they ended up doing themselves in and part because of that policy. Apparently, we don't teach history well enough anymore so that people can learn from it. It's asinine. Think about the last movie that you saw that inspired you and kept you thinking long after the credits rolled. Movies have the

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they're going to just, well, they passed a bill called the Truck Nuts bill. And it's going to go to the Idaho Supreme Court apparently. sorry this is a pain in the butt they determined it was an urgent thing the Idaho legislature declared that an emergency existed requiring it to immediately criminalize the public exposure of body parts including truck nuts and people would say oh they are offensive

in fact the Idaho Senate minority leader said minority leader said that truck nuts were gross offensive kids see them on the road so why wouldn't the police get a call and say that offends me pull it off the truck oh my gosh they said it because now the bill will allow it and police said it would are you serious are you serious okay I think that there are greater that's dumb there are greater problems in the world than that I mean I would just that's a great learning opportunity for your kids

there's greater problems in that city than this yeah I just can't I mean I can believe what am I saying a lion killed a businessman at a luxury safari lodge in Namibia after he stepped out of the tent to use the bathroom. Yeah, that's a big issue. The lion killed the man at this luxury lodge. He was a well-known businessman. He was camping with other tourists at this tented resort.

And he was attacked after he stepped out. The other campers managed to scare off the line, but it had already killed him at that point. Hang on, I'm trying to read it. There was a story. The police were attending the scene, and they said a full report would be. submitted in due course. Boy. Measles is now showing up in, oh, wastewater. I mean, are you

drinking wastewater? Does that matter? They said measles cases have been rare in recent decades, blah, blah, blah. But now they said that it's apparently popping up in waste water. Sorry, I'm dealing with a new element on this computer system that makes reading these stories almost impossible. So bear with me. The scientists now have because I'm just getting right. This is too long to read and fight with this thing to scroll. Let's see. Also, Generation

X has been declared the coolest generation and apparently also the happiest. I didn't get to get this. A survey confirmed that the 80s and the 90s were rated the highest for quality of life and the generation that was shaped by those eras.

So it's a very long story that buries the lead, but by in large they it was because of the adversity that the generation faced and gen x they were the kids of boomers although older millennials are the kids of younger boomers and older gen x people they can have some millennial kids but mostly it's gen z so i'm on the i'm a young gen x so my kids are gen z gen z well what comes after gen z alpha what's after alpha uh what's after alpha uh Martians, aliens, Sasquatches, I don't know, or

Sasquatch, it's like a single girl. But all of us that are, we were adults by the time we were 10 or 11. Like, oh yeah. You know what I mean? Adults. Yeah, it's a big thing. So it was, but it's the adversity. That was like the common theme. And this actually dovetails with another survey

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he's fourth congressional district. And it's not like we don't have anything to talk about what with, you know, recisions, pocket recisions, the big beautiful bill, the Trump-Musk fight, AI, everything else. Congressman, it's good to see you. I know you're in your favorite place in the world, Washington, D.C. Well, enjoy the view until they take this office away from me. This is my office. And I'm in the middle of all those fights.

I know. You find yourself in the middle. And I have to say, it is. I was talking a little bit earlier about this very fragile coalition that we have on the right and I really feel like a lot of people on the right are kind of getting baited into this and you know talking about this big beautiful bill

I got issues with it you have issues with it Elon Musk has issues with it will you clarify something for us all because one of the things that I keep hearing is about tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts correct me if I'm wrong congressman but I actually went through by read the bill I mean I controlled

F my entire way through it but these are temporary tax cuts that are set to expire in 2028. Am I wrong? No, you're correct. The no tax on tips, the no tax on overtime, and the tax break for seniors all expire in three years. And that's part of the budget gimmicks that they're using to get this thing to balance over 10 years, because they're going to not tax you for three years. They're going to spend more money for three years. And then in the next seven years, they claim that, well, you don't know this unless you've read the bill, and you have. But in the next seven years, that's when the taxes go back up on those

particular items. And that's, you know, and there's no spending savings back there either. That'll give the lobbyist time enough to get another Green New Deal. Oh, man. So we keep, why are we being told that these are tax cuts and it's going to be the greatest tax cut then? Well, I mean, for three years it will be. But when, you know, when Trump leaves office, they go back up. yes, this will be a reason for you to vote for another Republican, they can promise to give you the tax cuts back. Oh, guess what? That's what we're doing with the 2017 Tax Cut and Jobs Act. People ask me, why did they expire in 2025? Why didn't they go for the entire 10 years of that reconciliation bill that we passed in 2017? And I say, because in 2017, we knew

the deficit and debt impact of the Tax Cut and Jobs Act was too great to justify for the entire tenure window. But now we're giving you those tax cuts and extension of those tax cuts for a little while longer and the no tax on tips and whatnot for an even shorter period of time. One of the things, and you made this point, Congressman, that we keep hearing is that, well, this is reconciliation, which is, you know, we'll talk about the rescissions proposal, but this is reconciliation and we can't, you know, we can't cut spending in this. So we can't increase it though but we can't reduce it yeah this is so they say that reconciliation is only for mandatory spending in other words and but you can't touch social security so it could

only affect things like Medicaid and Medicare and maybe some other mandatory items that you don't really think about being mandatory but they found a little magic switch they can flip on and they can spend a discretionary money in here that's what the military spending is. That's what the border wall spending is. That's what some of the DOJ spending is that we've gotten this bill. They claim they can increase discretionary spending, but they can't decrease discretionary spending. Wow, what a magic little trick they found that only requires 51 votes in the Senate. That is amazing. Now, that's a gimmick. Now, that I would say that that is a gimmick, talking with Congressman Thomas Massey on the big, beautiful bill.

which, what do you expect, how was the Senate going to, what are you anticipating them giving back to you all? Well, you know, our speaker said that he went over and told the senators that he's crossing the Grand Canyon on a piece of dental floss. And if they disturb this bill, the least little bit, he's going to fall in the canyon. The bill's not going to pass in the House. I would say it's very precariously balanced here in the House. It only passed 215 to 214. I was one of the nose. and there's almost no way they can improve it in the Senate to get my vote,

although it is possible. It's just not likely. The senators, I think, are starting with a blank sheet of paper. And maybe that's a good thing. But I doubt their bill is going to be more conservative than the House bill. I see sort of a collision coming. There are a lot of people dug in in the House. We've got some Republicans from blue states.

The BBB should be the Blue State. bailout, they secured from Speaker Johnson $390 million of tax cuts for states like California and New York where residents, rich, affluent residents of those states can write off up to $40,000 of their state and local taxes off of their federal tax obligations. That might not be in a Senate bill if a Senate bill starts from scratch. And so you might even have a problem with moderate Republicans in the House if the Senate sends us a bill that doesn't have that little goody in there. Wow. And that's, that's a, that was a big point of contention the last time around. I wanted to ask you too, and I wanted to

play a little soundbite for you. I had, uh, on the show yesterday, Congressman Rich McCormick, who I know is on, uh, the cyber and technology subcommittee. And everyone's been talking about this specific portion of this bill that pertains to AI, specifically whether or not states can regulate it. And from what I've read in the bill, it's, uh, putting, like a moratorium on states for 10 years where they can't regulate artificial intelligence. Can we play that for Congressman Massey real quick? We're going to have, we have it now. Okay, let's play it.

Uniformity, here we go. I think once you get to 10 years, everybody's going to see the advantages of having no interstate interference, just like the internet. Nobody talks about it anymore on the internet, because why? Because it's already fully developed and we kind of do our own thing, whether it be 5G or cable or whatever. we understand that whatever advances us quicker wins. And I think once you get past the 10-year period, people will accept that we don't need additional regulation. We have to have certain laws

make sure we don't have defakes or distort the truth. So one of the things that he mentioned in this audio soundbite, and I don't know if that was clear for you to hear a congressman is because I asked Representative McCormick about it. I said, well, isn't that kind of dangerous to take that power away from the states where shouldn't they be able to have, you know, 10th Amendment, that sovereignty to be able to regulate it? He brought up the interstate commerce. And I thought he made a couple of points. I'm not entirely convinced yet, but, you know, I'm open to being persuaded by good, you know, good information. Where do you stand on this issue?

Well, you know, they used to ask Ron Paul, did he read those thousand-page bills before he voted no? And he said, no, I get about three or four pages in and find something unconstitutional. And I can quit reading, because I don't need to read the rest of the bill. I am prefacing what I'm about to tell you because I'm almost embarrassed to tell you this. I went back and read that provision of the bill knowing that you might ask about it on the show. And I found something I didn't find the first time, which is, they say in that bill, not only are they going to override state laws, they want to override state or local zoning laws. Now, what does this mean? When you think of AI, okay, well, we're not going to regulate the software that runs on somebody's computer.

No, what they're talking about are these data centers that could be local. located in your neighborhood. And there's been a lot of contention over these data centers. I think that's what the real intent of this part of the bill is. You know, Facebook and some of these other big tech companies have met the Not in My Backyard, the NIMBY resistance in areas, and AI wants to make sure that they don't run into that. These data facilities can use a lot of water, use a lot of energy, and they don't want the locals telling them where they can't can't put these data centers, they're going to want the data centers closest to where

the consumers are. And so you're going to have that tension. And I think, I know, I went back and read the bill before I came on your show, this specific part says that they want to expedite the zoning and the routing, that the reason they put this law in there is to expedite zoning and routing. Routing also is basically code for eminent domain, running those wires, being fiber optic cables through anybody's yard they want to, I think it's really dangerous to take that power away.

This has been an issue in my congressional district. And the local authorities were able to get a planned data center relocated away from the residential neighborhoods, but they wouldn't have that power if this bill passes. What you just said just immediately dovetailed was something that we had happened here in Texas and Austin because they have been fighting for local control for zone. and routing the very things that you mentioned. In fact, we just lost a big battle in Austin,

Texas over this, over municipalities, over different towns, being able to determine their zoning, et cetera. And I thought that that was such a weird fight for Austin to pick right now out of all times. But what you just said now makes all the sense in the world. Holy cow. That just hit. Wow. That's amazing. So that's what you caught in this. So obviously, you know, going by what you said just a little moment ago, but, you know, with the Ron Paul context, that there's one bad thing in this, then it's bad. Well, you know, everything up here is a crap sandwich. I just wish you had two slices of bread and a pickle. And I could even do without the pickle. The problem is that I just

don't see enough bread to compensate for the crap on this thing. And it's going to, I mean, I can be pragmatic. I voted for a farm bill once because they put my legislation to legalize industrial hemp in it. That was in 2013. So, I mean, I'm not pure as the wind-driven snow. I have voted for crap sandwiches, but give me a pickle or a slice of bread. This one has too much crap, and it's going to add to the deficit.

Those who tell you that it's deficit neutral can do so with a straight face and not be lying, because five years from now, it starts to balance. But here's the problem with those problems. is five years from now, there's going to be an intervening presidential election and two intervening congressional elections between now and then, and the lobbyists will know exactly what they got to work on between now and then. And five years from now, Dana, when the money saving provisions start kicking in, they'll call it a fiscal cliff. They'll say, oh my gosh,

this previous Congress set up this situation where we're going to have to spend less money on these projects, and we're going to have taxes go up. This will, this will, this will kill the economy. They'll call it a fiscal cliff when we get to it. Oh, boy. That sounds exactly like what almost, that's a cycle at this point. It's so predictable talking with Congressman Thomas Massey. I want to ask you really quickly with a couple minutes that we have left. So the rescissions package, I mean, it seems like a step in the right direction, but it's what, $9.4 billion. That's, is that what we spend in a day and a half? That seems like our federal spending in a day and a half. So that is nothing really. It's, it's not much. I say these are billion dollar solutions.

to our trillion dollar problems, which is to say it's not going to solve the problem that the reconciliation bill does not address or exacerbates. In the reconciliation bill, we're talking about deficits of trillions of dollars for the next 10 years. And with the rescissions, we can save the first rescission package, it's going to save, like you said, $9 billion. Now I went through and read what those recisions are. Those are great things.

I'm so excited. I am almost beside myself and disbelief that my colleagues are going to vote to cut funding for the United Nations and the World Health Organization. If we pull this off, it's going to be awesome. But again, those are notational gestures at solving our debt and deficit crisis. But it's really good stuff to cut. They go in line by line. I just wonder who funded those things.

line by line. Oh, wait, that was my Republican colleagues when they did the continuing resolution and the omnibuses before that, those are pet projects that somebody got caught red-handed with. Exactly. Do you think that the pocket rescission strategy would be successful if that's attempted? I don't know. Again, I hate to turn it over to the courts. Like, you know, that's where it'll end up, I think, if you, if Congress doesn't weigh in. So I would prefer bring all these to the House representatives in the Senate. Again, it only requires 51 votes. We could be talking about other ways of rescinding if we didn't have control of both chambers. But since we have control of both chambers, we don't need to try any fancy ways of doing this.

Just go straight up the middle. The field is clear. Last question for you, Congressman. I know that you have, you made POTUS mad. And now he says that you should be primary. But you got a lot of support in your district. more support than I would say certain Republican primary presidential candidates had received. Are you worried about being primaried? I mean, do they want a big spender to take your place? I just look at it like you're trying to deliver on the promises that were made during the campaign. And I think that's kind of important to voters.

Does it make you nervous that the president is mad at you? It doesn't make me nervous for two reasons. Number one, the president, he gets mad, but then he can get over it. Okay, and I think there's plenty of chances between now and my next election for him to see that I'm the original Make America Great Again, Make America Healthy again, candidate. What he's proposing I've been for for the last 10 years, okay? I just don't see it in these bills, and that's what's got him a little bit upset right now. So there's a chance for things to change. And the other reason I'm not too worried is I tell people I have Trump antibodies from a natural infection in 2020 where he, He came after me, told me he was going to come at me like never before.

And he called me a third rate grandstander. And eight weeks later, and that was for opposing the CARES Act. Another multi-trillion dollar bill that we couldn't afford, and I predict it would have caused inflation, and it did. But eight weeks after that, I got 81% of the vote in my primary. Now, I had to raise a lot of money and work hard. I prefer not to work that hard to get reelected, but I'm ready to do it if I have to. I think you guys are, I mean, as you said, I think he'd be natural allies.

And so I hope that the president sees that. And also, I mean, this bill, I mean, going by what Speaker Johnson said this morning, that's been in the works for 14 months, well, heck, POTUS has only been there for five. So, I mean, he doesn't even have to take any credit for any of this or any responsibility for it. He can say it's a swamp's bill. Yeah, and there are some swampy provisions in there, like the AI thing. Who stuck that in there? Some tech company that doesn't want these local authorities.

keeping them from putting their data centers in your cul-de-sacs. Yep. So, you know, I think Trump just wants the deal done. What might eventually happen, Dana, is the whole thing blows up. We have to skinny it down and just, you know, do some tax cuts, do some basic spending cuts. Take out all of the other crap the lobbyist tried to get in here at the last second. Yeah.

And it might be something that I could vote for. There you go right there. I mean, it's all about, again, delivering on those campaign promises and reducing our spending. That's what cost. Congressman Thomas Massey, we always appreciate you joining us. And keep on fighting and keep with the consistency. We really appreciate it. God bless you. Thank you. Hey folks. So I want to share something important that every American should be aware of. We're seeing a lot of economic uncertainty right now. You have the national debt rising, global trade tensions, impacting markets and tariffs with higher prices on the stuff that everybody uses every day. It's not about panic. It's about preparation. So this is why I partnered with Goldco, the top rated precious metals company, to help you take a step towards protecting your financial future. Smart investors look to hard assets like gold and silver. to help weather the storm. It's a strategy that's been used for generations. And right now, you can get a free 2025 golden silver kit that breaks it all down for you. And if you qualify, you could receive unlimited bonus silver. Real silver, matched to your account with no taxes or penalties.

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