The Dating Detectives - 4: Mackenzie Undercover: Fishing for Trouble

Episode Date: May 15, 2023

Mackenzie is back to tell us another one of her crazy tales! In this episode you will hear about one of Mackenzie's most out there undercover persona's that proves she will really do anything to catch a Dog Fish. ***The following Program contains names, places and events that have been anonymized or fictionalized for the purposes of protection and safety. The following Program is provided for entertainment purposes only and any commentary from the hosts are strictly conjecture and should not be held as making any definitive statements about the truth or identity of any particular individuals or circumstances. If you or a loved one are involved in an abusive relationship, please call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233 for support.*** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following program contains names, places, and events that have been anonymized or fictionalized for the purposes of protection and safety. The following program is provided for entertainment purposes only, and any commentary from the hosts are strictly conjecture and should not be held as making any definitive statements about the truth or identity of any particular individuals or circumstances. If you or a loved one are involved in an abusive relationship, please call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-723 for support. Hi, Mackenzie. How are you doing?

I'm good. I'm excited. We've got another episode of you telling me a story, telling all of us a story. I like sharing these because especially the one I did last week, we got a lot of questions about, like, who was it? I want to know who this sports baller was. There's a lot of these cases that I do that are just so wild. Like, it doesn't seem real. Like, it's like there's no way this is true. So what did you think of last week?

That's pretty crazy, right? I mean, yeah, last week's is crazy. And I was reading comments too and people are just like, you know, everybody wants justice. And it's fun to have this like collective. It's not fun. Obviously it's not good that this stuff happens. But this collective group of people who are all just like, we can't stand for this kind of behavior anymore. Like I like that this podcast is giving us a support system in these ridiculous stories.

What do you got for us today? Who would have ever thought that some of these stories are this crazy? And I never imagine they would just be. so freaking entertaining. Like, holy crap. So I have a doozy of a story for you today again.

And I basically, okay, so usually when I get a call from someone who says, hey, I want you to follow my spouse, I want to find out what's going on. They usually have like a pretty decent reason. They have found, I don't know, credit card receipt, something

ridiculous. But this. Something fishy. Yeah, something fishy. And this client came to me and said, I'll be honest with you. I have no reason to suspect anything is going on. But there's just something that I guess it's kind of eating at me, but I have no reason. Like there's no, I have no legitimate reason to suspect this. Interesting. Yeah.

So this is like a rare case of that. And then I'm assuming, obviously, if you're telling it on the podcast, it was worth investigating. So maybe it's just going to be a reminder to trust that fem intuition, even if you think you're crazy. Yes. Trust your fempt tuition. Anyways, so buckle up for this ride. I'm ready. She says, okay, my fiancé is this giant fisherman.

He likes to go fishing all the time. Most of the time, it's with his buddies. And they take the boat. Sometimes they just go to the pier. And fishing is just something he's done forever since she's known him. Okay, I'll allow that. So she says, but I want you to follow him. Because I just want to be sure.

I literally have no reason to suspect anything. But can you please just follow him? I get it. I love the idea of him never, like, bringing back anything. And she's just like, he's either cheating or like, the worst fisherman. She's like, it's like a catch and release. He just can't get it together. Okay, so she's like, just go on this little fishing trip with the boys.

And he's like, honey, it's just catch and release. but she said that there are many times that he just goes by himself. Oh, it doesn't sound weird that he would be a fisherman. Yeah. I mean, I'm already kind of like, I have mixed feelings because there's a part of me that's like, if you don't fully trust your partner, which it sounds like this person doesn't. But the problem is usually when someone says, I have no reason to suspect, but it's like if you look for something, usually you're going to find something

and sometimes that something is nothing. Sometimes whenever we're looking for something we'll find anything to fill that space to give us a validation of those negative feelings that we're feeling. That's so true. Yeah, I've been guilty of that, sure, when I'm just like, well, I'm sure that something's wrong

so I'm going to convince myself that you shouldn't have been liking that Instagram photo. Like, yeah, exactly. And so you find these things to make yourself right. So she says, okay, I just want you to do surveillance on him. I just want to see what he's doing. And I said, is there anything particular about this particular day that you want me to do surveillance on him? And she said, no, it's just a Saturday.

He's been going out like every weekend since I've known him. And this is just what he does to relax. I just want to see what he does. So I'm like, okay, but I was hesitant to take the case because don't start no shit. There won't be no shit. No what I mean? How would you feel it's like your husband when you guys were dating? like i know i know i'm just i'm just thinking out loud i would feel weird if somebody like hired a p i with

no evidence everybody's background is different and i think everybody has the right to like get their peace of mind based on their own experience if this person had issues in the past or whatever i'm i'm pro hiring p i for peace of mind yeah but so the problem is not only do i decide whether or not i'm going to take this case but usually i want to know what are you going to do with this information when you have it why are you asking for this information? What kind of liability is that going to put me in? I find this information for you on something that you even had no idea about. And I tell you about this.

Now what happened? So it's a whole big thing. I have to do a whole background on her to find out what kind of client, like before I even agree to do surveillance. So I do all that. And I agreed to take her money and I said, okay, I'll do the surveillance. So I go out early on a Saturday morning.

It's like 6 a.m. And I follow her fiancee to the boat dock. So he gets to the boat dock and he gets his boat and he's loading it. He puts the small cooler inside. He does everything that someone would do at a marina when they're getting their boat out, right? He's all by himself. He's alone. I'm like, cute little guy with his little going on his boat with his little thoughts.

This fella, he wants to go do some thinking, right, with his little fishing poles. So I'm thinking, this lady is crazy. Like, there's nothing going on. But I have a four-hour minimum, right? So you're fishing today. Yeah, we're going fishing. At this marina, there's a huge, what do you call it, the big garage with all the boats? What do you call that?

The garage with all the boats. The hangar? The boat hangar? Like, what is it called for both of them? Is the marina? Yeah, I don't know. The boat storage. But that's the dog.

The boat garage. The boat garage. Yeah, so whatever. Anyway, so there's this big book garage. And then on the other side, there's a diner. And when you walk into the diner downstairs, you're already outside in the outside seating area. So I walk under there and there's like a bar with bar stools where you can sit and have your breakfast overlooking the water. It sounds delightful. It's beautiful. So anyways, he loads this boat. He gets into the boat, takes it out into the water. And I'm like, he's alone, but I have a four hour minimum. I'm billing her. So I just take a piece. You know, I just sit here and I order some pancakes and some bacon. And I'm sitting there and I'm just eating mind of my own business, watching him out on the water. Well, I notice that he's not traveling out into the open water. He's traveling like along the shore. And he goes to a neighboring dock.

So I'm like, well, that's a short trip. Why is he going to a neighboring dog? Maybe he's going to pick someone up or maybe he had a flat tire. What happens on it? I don't, whatever. Yeah. I clearly know nothing about voting. Okay.

So he's on this boat and he's going the wrong way. He's going all willy-nilly wherever. So he's all willy-nilly over here at another dock and I'm like, okay, what's going on? Like maybe he had mechanical issue with the boat, right? Well, he pulls up to the dock and I see him greeted by a woman who's standing on the dock and she has a little bag over her shoulder, a little striped beach bag. And she's got the cute hat, like a total beach bag. Long, blonde head underneath.

He grabs her hand and he helps her onto the boat. Now, keep in mind. I can still kind of see him, but I have a Panasonic little like handy cam, like little small handheld camera. And so I'm zooming in just to see what's going on. So I zoom across the water using my camera as binoculars to zoom in. And you can see that he's guiding this woman onto his boat. She gets onto the boat and she kisses them, but not on the lips. She kisses them on the cheek.

Well, the one thing as a private investigator that you're taught early on is never assumed. I think we talked about this on the last episode. Never assume. It could be his sister. He could be his stepmom. It could be his cousin. Like, it could be literally anyone, right? You never want to assume.

And so I'm over here thinking, okay, let's be real. We all know. Like, we know. Let's be real. But let's wait. I'm just rolling my eyes. Like, here we go. So they get on the boat and they start going out into the open water.

Well, they get to a point where they get far enough out in the water where I can still see the boat. And if I zoom in, I can see kind of clearly, but the zoom only goes so far, but you can still see kind of what's going on. So I'm looking over and she takes her hat off and she's like disrobing, but she's got a bathing suit on, which is standard for a boat, right? You've got your bathing suit on. I am familiar, yes, with the bathing suit boat connection. Do you know where this is going? Do they make out in the water? Do they make out on the boat?

Do they do both? If it appeases you, which I know that it will make you so happy that they do. kiss. And so I'm praying that it's not his sister because they were kissing like a lot. French kissing like getting down with it. Like they were they were in it. Anyways. So and now they're doing like the touching things. So they they about to do the dirty on the bum? Well, hold on. So I'm just eating my breakfast, minding their business. And I'm asking the waitress, can I have more syrup? Meanwhile, I have my camera on and I'm recording when I can. And if you move the camera too much because it zoomed in all the way. You can't focus well. So I would turn the

camera off while I'm doing other things, like getting my syrup and talking to the waitress or whatever. And the waitress starts getting snappy with me. She's like clicking her teeth at me. And I'm like, what on earth? What did I do? And so every time she would walk away, she would like flick her hair and like flip her neck. Like she was mad at me. Like she wanted me to know it. I had already asked for more syrup. And so I picked up my camera and I zoomed in to the boat. And I zoomed in to the and you can see she's missing. Like, it's only him. And I'm like, wait, where'd she go?

Because I was, like, looking away. And so you look down and you can see that she, her head is like level to his waist. Well, okay, that's what I was assuming was going to happen. I'm stunned because I'm like, either she's kneeling down to prey or she's kneeling down to tie her shoes, but she wasn't because she was wearing sandals. So, you know what's going on.

With this camera being as blurry as it was because they were so far away, You're zoomed in all the way. You know, what's your first clue, you know? Yeah, that's a no-brainer. Now I'm, like, stressed about, oh, my God, what is, how big is the boat? What if it flipped over? Like, now we're getting into some dangerous territory. I understand they probably think this is real sexy out there on the sunny waters, but

at what cost? So I'm zoomed all the way in, and I'm stunned. And then the waitress comes back over and she brings my syrup. and she just stands there for a minute and I figured she'll just stand there and put it down and walk away so I didn't want to stop recording because I want to get all this evidence on video

then she made a loud noise at me like she was like like what like wanted me to know that she was there so I stopped recording and put my camera down and I looked up at her and I said thank you so much like I appreciate you bringing the extra shirt that's always what I do when somebody's being rude I'm just like I have it but such a great day

like I'm such a like a Kill us. But it's a point where sometimes I'm like, Hannah, that was like the most aggressively, have a great day you've ever said. Maybe. Maybe. Well, sometimes they don't deserve a nice, have a great day. Sometimes they deserve an aggressive, have the great, have a great day.

Yeah. Have a great day. Just kidding. Okay, wait. Why was she mad at you? Was she the one setting them up to give them their secret time together? So I'm holding the camera with one hand and I'm, my client's texting me and she's like, what's going on or whatever. And I'm looking down texting her and I'm holding my camera up,

zoomed in on the boat while I'm still recording. And the manager of the diner walks over to me. And he's this tall, brawny guy, like kind of good looking, but older. Like he's, and I'm trying to describe him. Like, he looked like the guy from the bounty paper towels. Like, he looked like the lumberjack. Sure. That painted perfectly. And he was wearing the shirt with like a name tag. It said manager on it. he comes up to me and he looks down at my camera and he eyeballs us and he goes, I'm going to have to ask you to leave. Okay, wait.

So this is interesting because as you were talking, I was kind of thinking about how, like, it is interesting how people don't usually pay attention. Like when you're filming, whip out a camera, first of all, you're at a beautiful marina, so it wouldn't be ridiculous for you to want to film some part of it.

But I was curious of any, if you get people giving you a hard time for filming, which it doesn't sound like you usually do, but I'm assuming these... Well, not really, because you have to keep in mind that usually when I'm recording someone in public, it's covert. Like, usually I'm using a camera

that you don't know as a camera or my iPhone or a pen or a key fobub or a hat or sunglasses or a button. All these different things that I have that are cameras that you don't know as a camera, right? So I can be doing any number of things. But in this particular case, I had my camera because the subject of my investigation

was so far away. I was like, I'm just going to use my regular camera. So the manager comes over and he's like, I'm going to have to ask you to leave. He looked at me and he, you could tell that he could see what I was videotaping and he was like looking at me like I'm so big. Oh, so they thought we were videoing them. I'm recording these people in the middle of doing the nasty and I'm just videotaping it because I'm some kind of like pervert, right? So I'm just sitting at the diner like, you're giving them the classic like, it's not what you think. It's not what it looks like.

It wasn't like my hand was like in my pants and I'm videotaping like, you're like like, I'm going to need some more syrup please. Like she's like, oh, I don't know. And so I looked up at him and I gave him a little smirk, cute little flirty smirk. Like this guy was just like looking at me like what? And then I just, I panicked. So I started flirting because that's what you do when you panic. You just start flirting.

I mean, non-mole. Like that's what you do. Yeah. That's true, especially. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, so how did this go? I want to hear your flirt to get out of this. You're like, wow, have you ever heard of Barani Paper Tels? Right.

You look just like that sexy guy on the paper towel. I buy that brand. Anyways, so at this point I realized that he's thinking that I'm like the biggest pervert, right? So I'm like, all right, we're going to play on this. Maybe I'll let him know I am the biggest pervert. So I'm going to try and get him like in on it. And so I'm like, kind of jokingly, I was like, I won't tell if you don't. Kind of making a joke, but also like, yeah, that's what I'm doing.

Brave. You are so perfect. Well, what's he going to do? He's going to kick me out and I'm trying to get this video. And so the only thing I could think of was like, yeah, I'm a pervert. So maybe like, I'm a dirty girl. Like, do you want in on this? I didn't want to say, oh, I'm a PI.

Because if I said that, then they would figure out who I'm watching and they'd be like, oh, she's a PI, she was following you. So I just made it seem like I was just a pervert. Then I was like, while he was standing there, I was looking around and I found somebody else and like I zoomed in on them. So he would think I was videotaping everybody. So he wouldn't recognize one of them and be like, oh, she was videotping you. So then it just looked like I was like a pervert for like, just something got a weird boyer, right?

It's just such a, because I was definitely like, oh, I guess you just, I would panic and be like, I know, I'm a PI or something. But yeah, that makes sense. That's not to do that. You could be an improv actor. I love that you were just like, yes, I am a pervert. Like, I'm committing. I was like, if I look at him just right, right?

And I'm like, I won't tell if you don't. And you're giving him the like, oh, you caught me. That's what I was hoping would happen. He's fucking baffled. He's like, oh, okay. So I handed him two $20 bills and I said, can I please have some more orange juice? And he was like, I was like, no way. Like, I'm literally that person on like Ocean's 11 who gives them a $10,000 bill and is like, I'll take the big sweep.

What a sick move. And you thought, oh, my God. Okay, so what happened? What happened? He looks at me and he said, you got it. And he wigs. My God. Oh, my.

My headphones are falling off. So, like, what do you do? Like now not only does he know that I'm like a pervert using his diner to like voyeur, but now he's in on it. He's allowing it. And I've tipped him and he's going to bring me more orange juice with ice. Oh my God. I know what he did when he got home.

I mean, that is so crazy. And also I will only ever hire a female PI. I mean, obviously only new. Yes. And it's like the wing. We get away with so much more. Oh, it's just genius. And it's so simple.

That brawny man was so easy to move. So my waitress ran and got the manager to say, oh, she's videotaping these people doing the nasty out on the boat. And so she tried to tell on me and then it just like turned around on her. And then like that was all I saw at her. Like she was like, I'm not serving her anymore. Probably like she's back to a bus. Oh my God. That's so funny.

That could have been her 40 bucks. But instead it's his. So whatever. She missed out. Wow. What a prude. Anyway, so I basically like pay off the manager of this diner to let me see. stay there. And so they're out on a boat. They're doing their thing. Listen, they did the whole

shabang, all of it. And nobody fell in. No one fell in. I'm curious also. Like, I'm thinking, so on the surface, there's a, like, sure, romantic you're on a boat. But then I'm thinking about times that I've been on boats and I'm like, okay, seats like are kind of in weird places. Like, there's little tiny rock-weigh. Yeah, the cushions, it's always, there's some puddle somewhere that you're like how'd that water get there one hand on the boat at all time i'm just imagining that they're they're maneuvering depending on the boat it maybe it was a beautiful big boat but it sounds like it was just a simple fishing boat that was probably a little bit hard to get comfortable in well i imagine that she was kneeling on like a life vest under her knees and then like that's how it was

comfortable i like that we've established that everything about my me being a PI is like so did they make out what were the mechanics of their sexual encounter on the boat i'm a I'm the part. Because now I feel like I have to tell you. And I would like to add that he did not fish not one time. He did not pull out a fishing pole. I hope at least got them wet in the water or something. Wouldn't you at least like, don't they have like those little things that have,

there's like a hole like a tube and you put the fishing pole in there and it like fishes for you or something? Whatever. Like can't you at least pretend? It sounds like you're giving the kid advice who like didn't brush their teeth to like rinse their toothbrush. So their parents think they did. I don't know if anyone, no one's like checking his fishing poles or the amount of bait he started with or ended with. But it sounds like this woman did have an idea that he was fishing, but not the way she wanted. He was fishing.

So I'm in the diner. Like I finished my pancakes and I finished my bacon. Like I finished my breakfast. Now I'm just sitting there kind of like I was going to say like enjoying the view. But it was like the scenery. Like it was a beautiful morgue. There are times with. they go further out into the water and I can't really see them and they were out of view for a while.

And then so at the four hour mark, my four hour minimum, it's still morning time, right? So there's, and there's a lot more people coming in from their boats. I guess people go out fishing at like three o'clock in the morning and they come back when the sun comes up or whatever. So they're coming in to have breakfast. So this diner is filling up. So I'm like, it's not going to be really reasonable for me to sit here in videotape. It's going to be more like noticeable. And if this is his marina, like if this is his dog, he probably knows something.

people. So I was really careful and trying to get out of there. So by this time, I'm back in the car. And I'm just, I have a view of the dock. So when he comes back to the dock, I'll see him. But there's also, I had to get out every once in a while to kind of look for the boat to see if he was at the other dock, like dropping her off or whatever. So I'm sitting in the car and I'm talking to my client and I told her what was going on. How do you, can I about this woman? Not to, I just want to hear like, what is that? Can we do that phone call? I want to hear how you tell someone. Okay. Hi.

Oh my God. I've been sitting. I've been waiting to hear from you. Like, I'm sure it's nothing. But like, how did it go? Where are you now? Hey, Sandy Sue. So I just want to let you know that I think that your instincts might have been right.

Your fiancee has met up with a woman at a neighboring dock. And they went out onto the boat. And from what it appears, it appears they were doing sexual acts. So I told her all these things and she's like, I knew it. And I'm like, what are you mean? Like you said you didn't know. Why all of a sudden do you know it?

And she's like, that bitch. Like, she knew it was right away. She was like, that bitch. The woman that it was was her fiance's old golf buddies, ex-wife. So she knew as soon as I said he went to a neighboring dock, that's what they all did as couples. They would go to the neighboring dock. They would pick up that couple and they would go out on the on the water together.

So she immediately knew who it was and she was just. And I was like, this is a woman who said, I literally have no reason to suspect. But she instantly knew who it was. So like obviously she knew something. Yeah, trust yourself. Yeah. So that's the thing. It's like I'm like, of course you want to trust your partner.

Unless you find something. Yeah. Unless you find something. Which you probably will. And then you have to trust your partner. Fem tuition, but she knew something. But I think that when she talked to me, she wanted to set the tone for if I didn't find anything, she didn't want to be wrong. That's so hard. Because taking this step to like investigate something like that where you know it's either

way, it's not a good thing. If that's where you're at, your head space is there. That's not a good place for your head to be with your fiance. Oh man, I feel so bad for her. Hey, at least those two got a beautiful day on the boat before they, it got blown up in their face. But also, so I want to let you know that whenever I'm done doing my surveillance, right, which I gave her the video, I uploaded the video to her, gave her all the things and then I built her, whatever, right? After I turn in my surveillance, I don't get an up, like, that's it.

Like, that's the end of the line for me. They don't call you and say, oh, my gosh. Like, sometimes they do, but really usually they don't. Because they got what they wanted from you. They don't need to talk to you anymore. but I did go back and do a little bit of follow-up, and so I reached out to her. You can, oh, I was going to say,

you could just like check an Instagram here and there. Well, I mean, you can, right? But she's not on the socials. So I reached out to her and got an update for you, and I'm going to tell you the update at the end of the next one. Oh, okay, well, that's okay, because I'm excited and I'll get to hear it before everybody else. But yeah, I hope, I turned out.

Wow, that guy, I, I, this is funny because when you were describing the woman waiting on the dock for the man to pick her up on the boat, I had a flashback to when I was young. And I remember one of the coolest moments of my life was when my friend's dad picked me up on a dock on their boat. And I was like, man, this is so cool. Like, what a vibe. Like, I just came here and all these other people are crabbing. and I'm just like, bye, I just got to get on my boat. Well, I'm not going to go into detail, but that guy turned out to be a horrible man

who was scamming up the wazoo with people left and right, families left and right. No. Oh, my association with the guy with their cool boat, I'm like, nope, it's always going to be a red flag for Mofer now. What a red flag. Red flags are, they're obviously based on your experience, but this one, well, let's talk about red flags.

because we have a new little series we want to do. Oh, are you talking about Red Flag Friday? Yeah, I'm talking about Red Flag Friday. Follow us on Instagram on Dating Detectives podcast, and we are going to be talking about all the red flags that you guys send in to us. So make sure you're telling us what your red flags are, because on Fridays, we're going to talk about them for Red Flag Friday. And we've asked you a couple times, and there's always a wide range.

There's a few that come up often, as they should. So we wanted to talk about one specific red flag. Let's see. A lot of you sent it in, but I like Penelope, Alice. You wrote, when they say their ex is crazy. First date. Run, girl. Run.

Nice guys. Don't talk. And I was like, ooh, I just get that energy through that message. Yes. But it's true, though, a lot. That's what a lot of people say, oh, my ex is crazy. It's all, it's all them. They're crazy.

It just says a lot more about the person calling them crazy that it does about the ex. It does. Is there any accountability you're taking here? Is it just like, we're just going to call the ex crazy and that's it? Like, I'm not saying they're not crazy, but what if there's a chance that like, I don't know, maybe they're out there all willy-nilly calling you crazy? Many of the people in these stories have been in relationships where, yes, their ex was probably legitimately crazy. But there's a way to share your past that is so much more mature. One, like not leading with it, you know, like as it comes up organically over time.

And two, just like saying, like having, I don't know, like some, I feel like somebody saying, look, we didn't work. This is the behavior that they had that didn't work for me. This is what I learned from it. This is what may be traumatic for me, abusive for me. Like you can share those things without just making it. There's just a way to do it. No, absolutely. I agree.

It's like if you're in a long-term relationship, that will and should come up organically and you'll learn about it organically. if someone's coming in guns ablazine like I don't date blondes because every blonde I've dated crazy you're like okay but seriously this is the first date

can we talk about me you know what I mean let's talk about let's talk about how I'm crazy because you'll find out soon enough no so funny so in this case the boat was the red flag maybe

but like not saying all boat owners are red flag. Yeah, have you ever dated somebody that was a boat dude? No, I can honestly say no. Have you? I did one time. Oh my God. I'm saying this. I'm okay, spill it. No, it's not that this is one of those stories where I probably should have died, but it's fine. It didn't. I, okay, so I was, I'm just going to tell it. I was on a trip in a foreign land. I went to London. And in London, they have all these, like, canals.

And I met a boy. He was, you know, we're friends. Like, he could listen. He was playing guitar on the street. It's fine. Whatever. It's hot in London. It's weird if you're in L.A. doing that.

It's like, okay, pack it up. Go home. You're never going to make it. But if you're in London and there's an accent and you're playing guitar on the street, it's fine. It's fine. Whatever. So anyway, I was like, I slid into his DMs. I was like, what?

Oh, my God. I never do that. I'm in London for a month. I don't know anyone. By the way, everyone, Hannah is red. She is blushing so hard. I just need you guys to know that. Because this is just a funny story.

It was a nice time we became friends and went out and had a proper drink at a pub. And then he was like, so I'm like staying at my friend's houseboat. I'm staying at my friend's houseboat? Oh, boy. It wasn't even his. This is what my brain did. after a pint or two. I was like, look, I'm in a foreign land

and the hour is getting late. So if I walk home alone, I could get lost. I'm a woman alone, and that could be dangerous, and I could die. If I go to the houseboat with the boy, I could be murdered. But I also could be murdered the other way. And one of the ways involves kissing. So maybe I'll do the kissing murder. You're obsessed with kissing.

You're such a romantic. Oh, my God. If I die, it's going to be with a gentle kiss. So you go to the guy's household where he could have, like, sliced and diced you and threw you in the ocean? I told him about people having my location so many times. I looked him up on Instagram. I knew he, but still, there's no reason. He could have murdered me.

He didn't. It turned out fine. Thank God he didn't murder you on his house. on his friend's houseboat. Wait, what if it wasn't even his friends? What if he's just like randomly like broken to a houseboat? Oh, get to the houseboat? Just like said, hey, this is my friend's houseboat. I don't know that that did not happen. I don't have, I could not prove to you. Wait, did you ever talk to him again? Yeah, we're still friends. Oh, you said that. Okay. So, okay, well, that's, I mean, thank you for not murdering Hannah if you're listening.

We learned a lot about possibilities on a boat today. So if you guys have to be a, so if you guys have any boat stories like I need to hear if you specifically have a situation with a boat like we need to hear about it we need to hear that the we this this can't be like the only case it's pg 13 have you hooked up on a boat that's what we want to know wait so if it's on an airplane and it's the mile high club then what like what is it called on a boat that's such a good question the mild the mile deep club oh that has a weird okay there's something weird about it something about like Oh yeah, you're a mile deep. I also love that everybody,

McKenzie's mom is in our shooting session today, and I just love that she's here. And she's probably just like mortified that I just said, mild deep club. I love McKinsey's love. Anyway, so if you have a story about a scam or sex on a boat, email us at Investigate,

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