The Dating Detectives - Mackenzie Undercover: Strip Club Surveillance
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The following program contains names, places, and events that have been anonymized or fictionalized
for the purposes of protection and safety. The following program is provided for entertainment
purposes only, and any commentary from the hosts are strictly conjecture and should not be held
as making any definitive statements about the truth or identity of any particular
individuals or circumstances. If you or a loved one are involved in an abusive relationship,
please call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-733 for support.
So you guys, we are in the live Spotify studio in Los Angeles together.
I've just been left alone in a room with McKenzie.
Will I make it out?
And she's like, okay, well, I trust you guys by.
And we're like, wait, is it recording?
Is the light on?
And so normally we get like a countdown on the program.
We're just going.
Anyways.
We're also running on nothing because last night was our first live show.
Oh, it was so good.
I mean, can we, we thank you everyone who came.
It was in L.A.
and trust, we hear y'all with the other cities.
I can't with the amount of support that everybody showed.
And like the way that everybody showed up and they were just, everybody had smiles on their
faces and they were so kind and just it was so special.
The generosity and just the like, just the love everybody showed and the desire to connect
with us.
And that's what we, I think that's what I love.
I know that's what you love to is that connection.
So you guys have just, you've shared so much of our podcast and it has grown so.
much. Because of you. Yeah, it's really because of you guys. So please continue to share our podcast
with your friends and talk about it. And I think one thing for me, and I'm, I think I'm speaking
for Hannah also. I trust you. But there's with the guests that have come on, we have really
been able to kind of like, it's opened up our eyes as far as like what's going on out there,
especially in our own lives. And it's just the- It just makes you think about your relationships
differently. Yeah. Not necessarily like, we're not trying to make you hate men.
or we're not trying to make you not believe in love.
We're just trying to make us all feel empowered to protect ourselves, to keep our eyes on, head on a swivel.
So when the guests come on and then we get a response that says, like, because you guys share it with your friends and on your social media and someone says, oh my gosh, this reminds me of so-and-so.
And then someone says, oh, my gosh, that's me.
I'm going through that.
And then all of the sudden you have this big giant community of people that are connecting and coming together.
And that's one thing that I love about.
specifically Hannah and I, like we come from two different, we're two different people. Literally opposite
size of the country. Yeah. And like we're different ages and just... London brunette. I mean, we're polar opposites.
But it's just cool how you don't realize how you can come together with someone. So thank you for
continuing to share and helping us to grow the podcast and giving us a platform where we're actually, I, I didn't
realize the impact that we would have. And so many that came to our show last night were just like,
you've impacted me so much or you helped my friend or whatever. So thank you so so much.
And also, and on the point of like sharing with your friends, that was something that came up last night.
So we got to, we did a McKenzie undercover story. That's top seeper for the live show. Sorry, guys.
If you weren't there, you don't get it. But then we got to hear from the audience about some of their dogfish stories, which sucked.
But they were so amazing. And as all our guests are, have like made it through it and we're willing to share and empower people based on that.
But we talked about how sometimes all you can do is keep your community close.
And I feel like if you meet someone that listens to the dating detectives or you get one of your friends to listen to the dating detectives, suddenly you know their values, that you know what they're looking for in dating.
So if you get your friends to listen with you, you're suddenly on this common ground and have like a language dogfish, fomtuition, all that stuff to like help you help each other.
Yeah.
So share with a friend.
That's what I love about it so much.
And just the connection and the community has been amazing for us.
And now here we are.
Literally at Spotify Studios.
That's like the podcast has done so well that Spotify was like, hey, we want you to come like record in our studio.
Like we'll, they did not charge it.
They were like, you could do it for free.
And it's nice.
It's nice in here.
Also, there's a cute little Spotify sign.
And McKenzie was like, can I steal it?
And they were like, yeah.
Yeah, we have plenty of those.
So we can steal from Spotify.
Not legally.
I mean, not illegally.
It is legal.
They consented to the theft.
There was consent.
And it was an enthusiastic, yes.
It was enthusiastic.
Oh, my God.
So the live show is just amazing.
And I can't wait to do another one soon.
So many of you have commented, come to Atlanta, come to Texas, come to wherever.
London?
Somebody said London?
I'm like, when?
Australia?
Yes.
I'm getting out of myself.
So we're just really excited.
So thank you guys so much for just the opportunity and just to hug so many next last night of people
that we actually only talk to kind of in comments and in DMs.
And so can I say it?
this is not a surprise.
It was like your first time on a stage.
Yeah.
You belong there.
You were magnificent, connected with the audience.
It was so good.
Like now I see how you can do stand-up comedy because I was like, this is so fun.
It's so fun.
And I think it's special when it's a group of people that like want to enjoy it.
It's scary when you're like, oh my God, I hope they like me.
But last night was just like, we are all friends.
Yeah.
It was everybody was friends.
But you were phenomenal and I hope you know that.
Thank you.
You were too.
It was such a great time.
And we did, I think we did really, really well.
Let's do it again.
I know.
So speaking of McKenzie undercover, although that one was one that was special for everybody who came to the live show.
I have a McKenzie undercover story for you guys today.
Yeah.
So you guys know I typically start a story with, I get a call from a husband or I get a call from a wife.
In this case, I get a call from a wife.
So imagine this lady who's like typical standard like soccer mom, right?
Like she's, there's nothing crazy about her.
Like, she doesn't appear to have anything.
She would fit in, in the pickup line at the school.
Or even the PTA, like, there's no crazy piercings or tattoos or anything, like, super weird about her.
Like, she doesn't have a lot of crazy.
Your tattoos aren't weird.
They're beautiful.
No, but you know what I mean?
Like, nothing that would make her stand out as, like, something that is anything other than just, quote, unquote, like a normal PTA mom.
Like, she's totally normal.
Lulu Lemon.
She's in the commercial for, like, classic mom lunchables.
or something. A hundred percent. Like, she's 100 percent this girl. And you would just think absolutely
like they're, I mean, typical modern family, they got a couple of kids. Like, you know, two and a
half kids with the dog and all the things. How old are the kids young? They're like middle age,
like middle age, middle age, middle school age, elementary middle school age. Like nothing crazy.
Like there's like, you know, regular school kids. You know, they have the dog, the whole thing.
Like this is just two and a half kids, just like everybody describes normal family.
I think, like, maybe the husband has a little bit of a dark side to him.
So I get a call from this wife and she says, listen, I need you to do surveillance on my husband.
He is addicted to strip clubs.
Oh.
Yeah.
Not just a fan, an addict.
Yeah.
So he's an addict.
So she says, I want you to do surveillance on him.
I want to see if he's still going to the strip clubs, right?
Like, I need to know what's going on.
He is, we are in marriage counseling.
We're in therapy.
And she told me that we are in, you know, in the counseling, like in the therapy sessions,
we talk about his addiction to strip clubs, okay?
And how he's in, he goes to these strip clubs, whatever.
Well, anyways, so I go on about my case and he's not supposed to go to the strip clubs,
whatever.
Well, I do surveillance on him and where does he go?
He goes to a strip club.
What time of day?
This is like middle of the afternoon.
Okay.
It's like 3 p.m on like, I don't know, a Tuesday.
Okay, like, I don't know.
I've never been to a strip club.
And I kind of go.
I know.
You have to.
They're kind of fun.
Like, it's cool.
Can we, should we?
It's my birthday.
Oh, yeah, it's my birthday today is your birthday.
Are we going to go to a strip club?
Probably not.
I'm so tired.
We, you guys, we are so tired.
I would take you, you're 29.
You never been to a strip club?
Oh my gosh.
Like, I feel like I'm innocent.
No, it's not that I haven't like been down or I support that kind of work.
It's just any time I've, like, thought about.
it, it's always been like, well, not
tonight. Like, that's like,
let's, we got other things to do. It's a cool
environment. Like, I think it's, yeah,
it's, but it's, it's fun. Like, if you and your boyfriend
ever, like, go together. Anyways, back into
the story. Back to the story. So he goes
to the strip club and I'm like,
is this guy going to go to, like, the VIP
lounge? Like, you know, how that,
have you ever heard that song? No sex in the
champagne room. No sex?
Yes. Okay, so that's all I'm saying about.
Anyways, so I go, I go
into the strip club to see like what he's doing in there right like I want to paint a picture and
if you it's not enough for me to just say yep he's at the strip club he went inside I want to go inside
like I need to know more like is he what is he doing in there what's the rest of the story what's going
on so he's just you know hanging out all willy-nilly inside the strip club wait wait I'm sorry can
you give us a little bit more on your persona that you adopt as you come into the strip club like
you're a woman alone in the middle of the day. So are you, like, throwing out dollar bills? Are you keeping it low profile? Like, what do you do when you go into the strip club? So these are not, like, you're just kind of low profile. Like, you just kind of, you, it's weird because a lot of people say, how can you, how can you tell these stories? It is a totally different person doing surveillance than it is telling these stories. Like, this is someone who's like, my head is down. I'm very low key. Like, nobody, you know, can really see my face that well. I'm just very kind of hiding in.
plain sight, right? So you just, and the whole thing is that you have to walk into a place like you own
it. That's the only way that you can get away with it. If you're not supposed to be there, you walk in
like you're supposed to be there and that's like people don't bother you. They just don't.
Like you have to have that confidence. So anyways, I go in and I imagine there's not a lot of women
that go to strip. I mean, I'm sure there's like more men than women typically. But I would think people
would notice you. But they, yes, and they do and they notice you. And they watch you. But it's like if you just,
If you're a patron there and you're respectful and you go in, just sit down, whatever.
What are they going to say?
Like, hey, you're a girl.
What are you doing in here at 3 p.m. on 2?
That's weird.
No one's going to, and I know that they won't.
So I just walk in with all the confidence in the world and I go sit down, whatever.
So the guy walks into the strip club and he's, the strip club normally.
It sounds like a joke.
This guy was going to walk to him to the strip club.
So at this particular strip club, they have like the dance floor or like the raised, like
runway, I guess you would call it with like a pole on it.
But it's like if you're sitting down at a table, it's like hip level.
Like, it's really love.
Oh, like, it's not up high.
Yeah, so they can, like, crawl up to you.
Yeah.
You've seen movies.
I've seen some movies.
Yeah.
So, anyways, so this guy's sitting on the runway thing with the pole.
And so I'm sitting in there, it's not even, like, I guess, 10 or 15 minutes.
And a guy walks up to him.
And he's, like, he's fast walking towards this guy.
And I'm kind of, like, watching to see what's going on.
And I'm like, what's happening?
And he goes, hey, man, you're not supposed to be here.
And then, yeah.
And I'm like, oh, like, I'm like, I'm going.
wonder what this fellow's got going on, right? So then he, and mind you, over the music. Okay,
the music is like loud. Like, you've been to a night club like, my pony. Is it that? I'm going to
imagine it's that. Yes, please continue to imagine it. And he says, well, you're not supposed to be here either,
dude. Like, what are you doing here? And the guy's like, what are you doing here? He's like,
what are you doing here? So they get into like this, like, you know, there's not a brawl, but they're like,
they're kind of getting close. Like, I totally think that they're about.
to like lose it on each other right all of a sudden music changes in the strip club and it goes from like
one crazy dance song and it gets quiet for a second and then another song starts playing and you see
this dancer walk out onto the stage and she's like shimmying and she's walking real slow and real
sexily and she's got hurt she's walking up to the pole and she's doing that like really sexy like
stripper whatever right and the guy over the intercom he says and next we have
starred flower glitter powered whatever the fuck her name was and so he's like calling her out by name
and there's like there's like nobody else in here there's like i don't know five or six people in here
which is actually kind of i think a lot for us trip up in the middle of the day but whatever it's my
client so listen so she walks out onto the stage i'm confused as a chameen and a bag of damn
skittles i'm like what in the goldfish crackers oh my god what's happening? What's happening?
happening, right? So I'm like, why, why, what? Like, they just want you to come. They were like,
we need an audience. We're going to hire a PI to come watch the performance.
Like, you're, I was so confused. Like, who is this guy yelling at this guy and why is he yelling back at him?
Why is my client up on the stage concerned about her husband that's addicted to strip clubs?
And he's not supposed to be there, but here she is. And it was wild. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm just like on the edge of my seat. What happened?
So the guys stop arguing and they look up and you hear the, she goes, she yells down and she looks
down at the guys and she looks at one and then the other and one and then the other.
And she goes, dad?
And then the other guy.
Her husband looks up better and goes, Francesca.
Like he's like, and they're both at the same.
She's like, dad.
And he's like, Francesca.
Wait, dad?
She's looking at the dad because the dad's at the strip club.
And then the husband's looking at her
because she's at the strip club, right?
And I'm like, what is she wearing like something?
No, no.
Naked?
Naked as a j-bird.
Not even a little, like, cute little tassel?
I mean, they got like the pasties or something.
But like they, and she wasn't like full, like she had on like the sexy.
Like she wasn't naked but she wasn't hide.
Nothing.
There was nothing to hide.
And she seemed like a pro.
This wasn't like maybe she started this job today to catch them in the act.
Sure. You'll tell us. Well, yeah. So I'm thinking like, listen, I don't know what the hell is going on, but she's got like dad and then she's got daddy. Okay. So like she's got like daddy and daddy up in this place. And I'm so confused. This is the worst family reunion.
So confused. Yeah. Legit. Legitimately. And I'm like, I'm just kind of sitting there like and I was kind of far back like not super. It was a small place. Like it's not you're not super far away. But the music and everything. And I was like, am I hearing what I think.
I'm hearing and so I'm really trying to like tune in and pretend like I'm trying to watch her
dance without like whatever. So I'm imagining her being like, yeah, go girl. And I'm just like,
and then the next thing I know like these three people are yelling and she covers her tits and she's like,
she grabs her tits with her hands. They're like, she goes, dad and she covers her boobs and the dad. And
then the husband goes, Francesca. And so now I know that the guy yelling at the husband is the dad and the guy.
And yeah, so you've got her husband and her dad sitting in the strip club. And then. And then,
Well, my client who hired me to see if her husband was still going to strip clubs,
because he's not supposed to be because he's addicted to them and they're in therapy for it.
Well, maybe he's just trying to support his wife.
Girl, so hold on.
My boyfriend comes to my comedy shows.
So what actually had happened was the wife wanted to know if the husband was still going to the strip clubs.
She told the husband, I'm going out of town.
I'm going to go stay at my mom's for a little bit.
know, to do whatever with my mom.
So I just, you know, I'm going to be gone.
So she told him that.
So that's the time she wanted me to do surveillance.
To see if he would take advantage of that time.
So she, you know, wants to see what he's doing.
So what I found out later was that she was actually a stripper.
The wife was a stripper when they met.
Okay.
Oh, so that's how she.
Okay, so they probably met at a strip club.
So she was always like a stripper.
She was always like, that's just how they met.
That's what they, that's, you know, whatever.
When they decided they were going to get married,
she decided that she didn't want him to go to strip clubs anymore.
But it wasn't until when they actually started having a really solid relationship.
She wanted to paint the picture of he was addicted and he had a problem.
But really, she was jealous of him going to strip clubs.
She didn't want him to go to other strip clubs because,
she that's like this is going to be her husband now like she didn't want to. And she probably knows
because she's seen it all. She knows what goes on and it's like I don't want my husband doing that.
But also it's kind of tricky when you didn't meet that way. Yeah. Like and also like what are your
expectation? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a dog. He likes a trip club. Yeah. And so so imagine like
whenever she tells me this now mind you this is a like this is a mom who's like Lulu Lemon like just like
Just like the penguin, Mr. Penguin girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like the same thing. And it's like, it's wild. Like, she's just her mom, like just chilling.
They got the kids at home, whatever. And she's dancing on a pole like, you know, three o'clock in the afternoon on two, whatever.
Wait, so yeah. So did she like go back to this profession for the purpose of research and investigation?
Research and investigation. She doesn't want him to go anymore because she's jealous of him going.
Yeah. Not because he is addicted. They were in therapy.
Not for his strip club addiction.
They were in therapy for marriage counseling.
And part of the issue was that he wanted to continue to go to strip clubs,
but she didn't want him to because she was jealous.
And she said, well, you're just addicted to them.
He wasn't actually addicted to strip clubs.
It was just a hobby.
It was just like something he wanted to do, whatever.
So he agreed to stop going to strip clubs to help their marriage.
And that's when she was like, I want to see if he's still going, right?
But.
But.
The dad, however, has an addiction to strip clubs and gambling and porn and all of these other, you know, things, right?
I have so many questions.
Okay.
Okay.
So basically, all three of these folks are at the strip club and they're not supposed to be.
The wife isn't supposed to be at the strip club.
Right, because she's not doing that anymore.
She told him that she's not doing it anymore, but she is.
but she didn't realize that he is going to that part of town to go.
Well, probably because he thinks she's not there.
Because he thinks she's not there.
Let's go to the one strip club that the other one won't be.
Yes.
And that's why they're good for each other than they know.
So she's like, she's a total dogfish.
Like she is.
Yes, she dogfished you.
Yeah, she dogfished me.
She dogfished her husband.
She dogfished her dad.
And also the fact that her dad is addicted to strip clubs and she is a stripper.
And in the same part of town,
that her dad is addicted to strip clubs, like, of course, at some point that's going to cross-house.
And I always wondered, like, I was like, how did they not, like, see each other's car and just
because, like, there's not very many people there, right?
Uber.
And I was like, oh, my God.
Like, no, all three of them had driven to the strip club separately.
That's like in, I would have been like.
I feel like everyone, it's kind of like when I can't describe it well, but in like a
funny crime movie when you, like, the audience sees, like, this person thinks they're after
this one.
but really the other person's after the other person and then they're after the person,
but nobody knows that they're all after each other.
I feel like they're all focused on their, like, initiative.
Yes.
Wait, I'm still not sure why she was stripping.
But did she want to catch him or she didn't think he would be a...
She just didn't think he would be there.
So she just wanted to strip.
I had to, so listen, the husband, she asked the husband and the dad to work together
for her husband to be the dad's accountability partner.
I thought that was happening.
To help him not go to the strip clubs.
That's what I thought.
But instead, what they did was they both went to the strip club without being accountable
to each other for either of their actions.
So you have both of these fellas all willy-nilly at the strip club behind the other's
back.
And also, by the way, the mom, like my client's actual mom has their own therapy also
because the dad is a, so she used the dad's strip club addiction to as a story to
me to get, because she thought I would turn down the case if, you know, she was like,
I need, I just need to, she didn't realize we were all going to end up in the same place,
which, what are the odds? What are the odds? Did her parents know that she was a stripper?
Yes, her parents, they knew that she was a stripper, but they didn't know she was still a stripper.
And she's out here showing her giblets to daddy and daddy. And like, she's showing her giblets to
everybody out in front of God and everybody, just letting it all loose, right? So the husband's not supposed to be there.
because he promised he wouldn't, right?
Or whatever.
The dad isn't supposed to be there
because he's in like a 12-step addiction program.
Oh, man, this is kind of sad.
I feel bad for everyone.
Yeah, she's not supposed to be there
because she promised the husband.
She made a promise to him that like,
okay, he was like, well,
if you want me to stop going to strip clubs,
like you have to not go to the strip clubs too
and keep your fucking clothes on.
Like, that's what you're going to whatever.
So none of them are supposed to be here.
I'm sitting here thinking that like,
like we're like we're coming to like stage some kind of like intervention and it's it was a
shit show like everybody just kind of showed up all willy-nilly what happened in the moment so they
start yelling at each other and then does she like run off stage oh yeah so after they all
confronted each other right and they're like yelling at each other the dad's yelling at the
dad they're all yelling at her she's yelling at her she's yelling at them she's standing up there
covering her fingers over her nipples and like oh what's going on and like she's yelling and while
she's yelling like her boobs are jiggling and like everything. Thank you for the picture. Yeah. And she's like her whole body and she's like stomping her foot and her thighs are jingling and the black light. I mean, she looks sexy. Like she was moving. I was like it for her. But like she's all like and they're yelling and everybody. They're looking at her. I love the idea. It's like there. Mackenzie's in the back and there's like one other stranger that's just like eating popcorn. Like, whoa, this has never happened here before. And so the girls that were working at the bar like you can look over and like you can see the servers and like the people that are just like working there or whatever. And they're just like.
Holy shit.
Like, what is going on?
Like, nobody knows what to do.
Like, the DJ's looking over the booze.
Like, he's like, what the hell?
Nobody knows what's happening.
And so you have these two guys that are, like, standing at, like, nipple level to this lady who's standing on the stage that's, like, lifted off the ground by, like, a couple of feet.
And so they're looking up at her yelling and they're looking over at each other.
And she's looking down at them, and it was wild.
And so she ends up leaving this, like, she storms off.
Like, her booty's jiggling.
She's walking off.
She had a goodbye.
I'm not going to lie.
Like, good for her.
Like, she was rocking it.
The black lights were killing it.
Like, they make you look all tan and pretty.
It was great, right?
And I was like, man, the song ain't even over.
Like, she didn't even do her full dance.
Nobody gave her no dollars.
Well, when dad's in the audience, I think you abort the mission quickly.
So anyway, so, so she ends up storming off the stage.
And I leave.
Like, I feel like at that point, it's, when you get to a point in the investigation when there is like,
I feel like it's been compromised with her being there.
I wasn't compromised.
Like she.
And she looked over at me.
Like she saw me.
She knew I was there.
Okay.
And like she, because we, she knew I was doing surveillance that day.
So whenever she saw the dad and saw him and then she kind of pieced it together and
she was like, wait.
And then I think that's when she looked over and she saw me and she was like, oh my God.
Then she's embarrassed.
So I leave only for like safety reasons.
Like I feel like at this point, if it is compromised or if there's any particular
situation where like I don't need to be involved.
Yeah.
And if they fight.
I excuse myself.
Like that I don't want to be a part of that.
Also, if he found out that she hired you.
he could get very upset. Right. It gets very unsafe for her. So that's why I excused myself and I left. And I just made it seem like it was part of like me being upset with like the whole.
I was like this service here is horrendous. I'm leaving. One star. Yeah. She didn't even remove her fingers from her nipples. Anyway, so I just thought it was like so interesting. Well then that's when I ended up calling her later and I was like, okay, girl, like you, you totally dogfish me. Like 100% you lied to me about why I'm doing the surveillance.
I need you to bear it all.
I need you to tell me everything.
So that, so she told, she told me literally everything.
And she told me from the beginning about their situation.
And there had been infidelity.
And there had been problems with him going to a strip club.
But only because she continued to work at the strip club.
She didn't want him to go because she was jealous.
And he kept going because she was still stripping.
And he was like, you need to stop stripping.
She's like, well, you need to stop going.
And neither one of them would do that.
And so it was this whole big.
like active jealousy. Meanwhile, dad's sitting over here like with a legit addiction to like,
you know, corn and sex and strip clubs and gambling and all the things. And so you have this client
is suffering with her mom who's telling her everything that the dad is going through.
And then the client uses the mom's story to get me to do surveillance on her husband. They're all
dogfishing each other. Everyone. It sounds like a slapstick comedy. It's, it was when I
I told the story. I was like, this is the dumbest story ever. Like, no one's going to get this.
And I'm like, I feel like... It doesn't seem real. It's not... This is so, it's so much
stranger than, like, it's, it's so strange. Like, it's stranger than facts. Like, you can't,
you can't make it up. And this lady took advantage of me and I said, don't ever call me
for a surveillance ever again. Yeah, good for you. I mean, that was a waste of your time.
After I got my check, obviously, like I paid her pay me the second half or whatever. Um, so she paid me
and I said, don't ever call me for surveillance again. And, and she hasn't, but I do...
Do you know what's, yeah, have you done a little research?
I have done a little digging.
I have done a legal and acceptable amount of digging using public records and social media.
Hear that.
She's like speaking around to the Spotify studio.
Just like, we're by the book.
This is legal and fully legal.
Yeah, by the book.
As far as I know, they are still together and they do have the children.
The dad is still in the picture.
They have pictures.
I've found a, not a.
Facebook, but a, not on Instagram. What's the other one? Um. Twitter? No, it was a, there was, there's one that's like a, my space. No, it was like a Tumblr? No. LinkedIn. No, what's a freaking name of that? Um, I can't think of it. But it's where you can see the people, they post like their, like, it's like a Google photo like, like, like, I can't think of it, but you can pull up someone's like, it'll show like their family pictures. It kind of like a tumbler, but like for, huh. I can't think of it. Like flicker. Yes. Yeah. Wow. We got there.
Like one of those things where, like, you try to type it in, you find like a flicker or something where people are like an album that they shared.
So I found a whole album and it showed like up-to-date pictures and it shows that, you know, all of them are, you know, a happy family or whatever.
But and obviously I would never use my resources.
I hope they're okay.
But I do.
It shows that they're all still like a big old happy family.
But can you like imagine being in a situation where like, and then what is she going to do?
Like, are you going to blame him and be like, how dare you go?
And then he's going to be like, yeah, how dare you go?
And then they're going to be like, well, how dare it?
And the only person not to blame is the mom, the grand, like the mom, like client.
Yeah. Grandma.
Well, I feel like I hope that, you know, this is the part where it's like, it's not of our business,
but we're making it our business.
It is my business.
It was literally your business.
But, yeah, I hope that they can use the experience to like come together.
You know, they're both trying to make a sacrifice for the other's comfort, which happens in relationships.
But then they didn't.
Right.
They really didn't.
But then it's like, can, they, they, they, they.
have a very entertaining therapy session that week.
Yes. Can you imagine the therapy session?
We're both struggling.
Clearly.
What do we do?
Because maybe they just have to make that compromise and be like, all right, I'm going to
strip and you're going to watch.
And I'm just saying.
That's the way they're going to do it.
But she doesn't want him there because she's jealous, but he doesn't want her there because
he's jealous.
And so they're both jealous of what, like, don't.
What, how, hmm, other than them stopping, I'm like, what are some creative solutions to this
problem?
Stay out of the freaking strip club.
Well, yeah.
Both of you.
If they can.
If you, they can.
But the dad is legit addicted.
Like, he apparently met like clinically speaking.
Apparently he is literally addicted to it.
I don't hear about that addiction very much, but I guess you can be addicted to anything.
And I'm not.
I'm not saying that any like, oh, if you're addicted, like, no, you're not.
Like that's, I'm not saying that at all.
I'm just saying like his story.
She used his story.
Yeah.
And he was saying, well, he lied to her.
He lied to him.
The dad lied to him both.
They both lied to the dad.
The husband and the dad were supposed to be like each other.
accountability partner and they're showing up.
Can you think of anything worse than stripping and seeing any member of your family in the audience?
No, no. I can't. I don't. I'm not interested.
But I just put that image in every listener's mind. Ha ha.
Molly, can we fire her? Where's Molly? I deserve it. I deserve it. Wow. Well, that was a good one.
Well, so I thought it was interesting, too, that like, what do they call art imitates life imitates art? And so, like,
you're all dogfishing each other and that's kind of like our life right like what are we lying to
each other about that like what do we lie to one another about that's like part of our life that we don't
share and then we judge people for what they're doing when really like we're just as bad or
we're doing something. Yeah that's true. You know what I mean? It's easy to throw stones. Yeah. And like you
never know when someone is like if someone judges you for something that you do and it's like I don't
I don't want to know what you're doing. We know. You never know what's going on.
behind closed doors. So like when people judge me, I'm like, okay, I don't, I don't even want to know what's
going on. And you're behind your clothes. Yeah. So it's kind of, it's kind of interesting, right?
Are you kidding? It's like wild. I do think it could be at the very least, like a short film.
Like, let's make it. By the way, by the way, I charged her more, which per my contract, I said,
if there is a situation where you have lied to me, I will charge you a 30%, a 30% of, I think that's
So smart because it makes you're not able to do your job if they're not honest with you.
Well, not only that, but it jeopardizes my safety. This could have been a huge safety because you lied to me.
When I don't have all the information, you did not give me all the information. You jeopardize my safety.
I'm charging you more. I don't like her. And I had every right to. And so I made her pay me 30% of the total cost of the surveillance on top of the total costs. Did she pay you in cash?
She's like in one. Like rolled up dollar bill.
Yeah, it was, but can you, like, I just, you put me in jeopardy and I don't like it.
Like, don't, don't jeopardize my safety for the sake of your investigation because you think I won't take the case.
That is also, I would dogfish.
Dogfish.
And also, I would like to say that is not consensual.
I, it is a, it is not a consensual surveillance or not, it is not a consensual contract whenever you lie about it.
So anytime there's deceit involved, that is non-consensual.
That means I did not consensual.
consent. And so I think that also applies to, like, relationships. We've talked to a lot of people and they say, oh, this person was a dogfish. They lied. Business stuff. We've had on Patreon. Yep. Wow. Perfect segue. Yeah. Join our Patreon. Five dollars a month. Two bonus episodes and a live stream and a community. Awesome people. Yeah. Join the Patreon. But we had somebody submit like a work specific dogfish story. And I know that they're not all relationships. Like there's so many professional things, which is interesting because obviously in relationships, we
kind of understand the incentive in some way, like whether it's sex, whether it's manipulation
of the relationship. But professionally, there's all these other incentives that drive people
to lie and it's not okay. Yeah, absolutely. And I just think it's just so interesting to me that
like it was just one thing that I never thought about was that the lack of consent. Whenever,
whenever something comes up, it's like it's just the lack of consent. It's just a very common
theme on this show is like a lack of consent is the big thing right and also it's hard you are the smartest
among us your femme tuition is a guiding light and you didn't even expect to see the dad and the the
other daddy and then you're sitting in there and you're like oh and you're looking back and forth like
holy shit this is and you're and then she comes out and then she comes out and I'm like oh my god I wish
I could have seen your face I was like I I swear to I probably turned white as
the sheet, y'all, I was, I was like, oh, God, like, and I did, like, a triple take.
Like, I was like, no way.
No, there's no way.
And then I heard, and then I heard, when I heard the husband and he goes, Francesca, and I was like, oh, my God, that's her.
And I was like, shit.
And then she goes, dad.
Dad and dad.
Yeah, wild.
Who?
Crazy.
Anyways, we, you guys, like, this is, these are the kinds of things, like, you don't realize
happens.
This stuff really truly, truly happen.
If anyone has any strip club dogfishy or just funny stories.
I want to know funny strip club stories.
Like, you guys have to submit those.
I'm sure they are.
Email them to us.
Okay, yes, email them to us.
Mackenzie, shall I say the email?
Well, I'm not going to.
I don't even have it in front of me.
Let's see.
Investigate at the dating detective.
Oh, fuck.
I'm sorry, guys.
I literally am spacing because they have so much pressure, but I know it.
This is, wait, what's the email?
Investigate at the datingdetective podcast.com.
Investigate at the dating detectivespodcast.com.
I had one job.
That's why I can never know it because it's like I either leave out the the or leave out the S or leave out the I can't.
You can't.
You can DM us. Yeah, just yes.
Dating detectives podcast on all the things.
Yeah.
But email is your stories.
And if you ever want to be featured on the show or you want to be a guest or share your story and connect with others,
please just send that right over to us, email it, and we would love to give you the floor and
a platform to share. And it's been, this has been such a fun. I think especially today, because we're
kind of still reeling from last night's show, which was really, really cool. So I can't get over it.
Honestly, I couldn't think of a better way to spend my birthday. I know. Happy birthday, by the way.
And thank you Spotify studios for allowing us to record here in L.A. This is so amazing.
These studios are really cool. Do many snacks, you guys.
My birthday present from all of you is share this with a friend.
How about that?
You all have to share with a friend.
And then I'll be my birthday present.
There's your call to action.
Share this with a friend.
And no, but we really, really do appreciate when you guys share it.
It just means.
Makes a difference.
Our podcast has grown so much just because of you guys.
First of all, enjoying it.
Second, like listening and just sharing it.
So thank you so so much.
We love you guys.
And thank you for your amazing story and for going to the strip club so that we don't have to.
Yeah.
When you go to a strip club, you'll have to.
let me know because I'm dying to know what you think now I'm scared that I'm going to witness
the like a family breakdown oh god like one and a million that's true I hope that doesn't
happen often but if it has happened and you know about it you need to tell us other people
anyways we love you guys so much and as always trust your foundation
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