The David Knight Show - 12May15 BEST OF INTERVIEWS: Border, Prepping, Real Education, School Safety, Mobility & Liberty

Episode Date: May 12, 2023

Today is a rebroadcast of BEST OF INTERVIEWSThe planned and coordinated migrant takedown of America by NGOs & governmentYour best prepping is growing a community as you grow foodPractical solutions for real educationProtecting children if you put them in schoolEric Peters on mobility & liberty (not this week's interview with sound issues)Dr. Duke Pesta We know the problems with schools. But here's some practical solutions from Dr. Duke Pesta, FPEUSA.org, for real education — whether it is a single problem area, an area for enrichment/advancement, or an entire educational programNoah Sanders starts at 49:37 Your best prepping may be in training neighbors to grow food, thereby building community. Noah Sanders, RedeemingTheDirtAcademy.com A system born out of necessity when commercial techniques failed became the lifeline when Zimbabwe stole farms from white farmersgardening without plowing or tillingthermal compost & natural organic fertilizerseight simple questions to create an easy, but effective garden planand much moreMichael Yon starts at 2:14:43Michael Yon joins to explain how NGO's and globalist organizations have a calculated method to circumvent immigration laws of countries throughout South & Central America into America as well as in Europe, the Netherlands in particular. Migration from China, Africa and every region is being used as a weapon of warfare and is a ticking time bomb for when the economy implodes. Dr. Sherwood starts at 2:14:43Dr. Mark Sherwood, Sherwood.TV, veteran SWAT officer, on steps that need to be taken to control the problem of school shootings, but also the foundational problems that are being ignored.Eric Peters starts at 02:51:56EPautos.com — Ford's Patent For Repossession is Far More ConcerningFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here:SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation through Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

joining us now is dr duke pesta as i said he is the executive director of the freedom project academy i wanted to get him on because i have people all the time saying yeah i understand how bad the schools are but how do i do this you know and we have to recover uh the understanding of how to do it's just like a lot of people are looking at this stuff and saying uh you know in terms of food supply and supply chain issues well i I know I need to start growing some of my own food, but I don't know how to do it. It's all been lost. I haven't had anybody in my family that's farmed for generations. And so we have to recover some of these things. Fortunately, this has been growing gradually for a while. And you've got some people like Dr. Pesta who have been working on solutions for quite some time, and they've got some very mature solutions.

And so we're going to talk a little bit about how that looks. But thank you for joining us, Dr. Pesta. Thanks. Nice to be with you. Thank you. We were talking during the break there, and I asked him if there's anything he'd like to talk about. And he said, well, we could start with what you just ended up with. Why do bad things happen to good people? What is your understanding,

Dr. Pesta? Well, my primary gig is I'm a university professor. I'm a professor of English, and I teach the Western classics, often teach books like the Bible. And so I usually talk to my kids about this. And one of the points I make to them, because I hear that from sophomores all the time, if God is just and we should love him, how come he doesn't save puppies from being run over and this kind of stuff? And my argument is pretty basic. It's, look, think about what you're asking God, that unless you give God, unless God gives you everything you want, you don't want to die in a hurricane, a tornado, I get it. But at what point do you stop that i mean let's say that god says oh i agree with you we're going to take away all natural disasters then you're going to say

well but gee god it certainly isn't good that people die of cancer right and so god says you know what we're going to take away cancer pretty soon you're going to be asking him to make you taller and less bald and no acne and and this is the point, right? Is that the world we live in has its nature as God made it has its own consequences, including death, which is the wages of sin. And so what we're basically asking God when we say that, I'm only going to worship a God who basically makes me God too. In other words, I shouldn't have to die. I shouldn't have to suffer. I shouldn't have to be inconvenienced. And isn't that literally what caused Lucifer to become Satan, right? He wanted to become God, not worship God, serve God. And I think when you get to the

bottom of those arguments, right, that natural disasters prove that God doesn't exist. Well, that's one more example of how man seeks to become God ourselves. Yes. And you go back to the Garden of Eden and you see the same impulses that we see in the technocracy. You will live forever and you'll become like God. That was the explicit promise. And as part of that, they ate the forbidden fruit.

Nobody died. They didn't do any harm to their fellow man type of thing. And so we typically dismiss that and say, well, what's the big deal? Well, it was rebellion to God. God said in that day that you eat of it, you'll die. He cursed the world, and that's the world that we live in. I think it's interesting, Dr. Pesta, people, when they see something bad happening, they would call it an act of God.

But they don't say that when something good happens. It kind of shows our fallen nature right there, doesn't it? Well, I think about Nietzsche for a second, the great, the end of the 19th century, who said, God is dead. We philosophers have murdered him with our knives. He said that, do you not smell the stench of the death of God? He did say also, Nietzsche, that in order for man to be worthy of the murdering of God, philosophically, man would have to become God, right? If you get rid of God, then man will have to step up. And you could not have had a Hitler or a Stalin or a Mao without that philosophy, right?

If there is no God, then the strong man becomes God. And we could sum everything we're talking about, we could sum it up with the first commandment. I am the Lord, your God, you cannot have strange gods before me. If you put anything before God, you are becoming a God in a way. And so it is amazing how basic when you look at the theology of God as Judeo-Christianity has handed it to us. I mean, you really don't need much more than that first commandment. If you follow the first commandment going back 3,500 years and you keep God in place and you recognize his supremacy over everything, then you're never going to wander astray. It's amazing how in the modern world, the first thing that happens is that we start by making science God, and now the God of science is turning on us, right? Telling us that biology doesn't matter anymore if somebody wants to be trans.

That's right. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it does. And of course, lockdowns and all the rest of this stuff we have a a guy who uh appeared to speak for the god of science uh for a couple years and he was telling everybody exactly what they could and could not do kind of a dictatorship and that's what always happens when people see themselves as god but um yeah it is it is truly amazing when we look at it i've i've had um some people will say well you know when we look at it. I've had some people say, well, you know, when we look at these natural disasters and say,

where was God in this massive death and destruction? And he says, well, if you understand what your relationship is to God, it's kind of what Jesus said when he had some people say, but what about these people in Galilee that Pilate murdered? Well, they're in the middle of a religious ceremony, massacred them. And what about this tower that fell on all these people and they died? You know, Jesus reminds them, he said, look, you know, you need to think about the fact that you're going to die someday, essentially is what he's saying, you know? And if you don't get your life, turn your life towards God, repent, follow him, and that type of thing. You're in much greater peril.

We're all going to die. And we need to understand our need of Christ. And so that is the key thing. Instead of trying to put ourselves in positions you're talking about with Nishi, elevating ourselves to the level of God and putting him in the box as a defendant, we need to take a different perspective and start taking a look at ourselves as well, I think. But let's talk. Yeah, go ahead. I was going to say that sounds really good. I think that's a good summation. Oh, well, thank you. Let's talk a little bit about

you've been an opponent of Common Core for a long time. And of course, that's where a lot of this stuff began. And the Department of education I've interviewed Charlotte, is there be many times before she passed away talking about the deliberate dumbing down of America and the fact that the, they wanted to control curriculum from a central position, attach dollars to it. And so it's given us things like common core. It's given us things like a critical race theory. Uh, talk a little bit about those things and the trajectory that you've seen over the last several decades in terms of education.

This moves so quickly that Common Core is almost passe now. What was a big deal 12 years ago, now it's completely been swallowed up by the next thing, which is critical race theory and the radical sexuality that you see going on in your classrooms, the LGBTQ stuff. And I think Charlotte was wonderful, rest her soul. She was one of the first people in the Reagan administration. Even when you had a president like Ronald Reagan, the Department of Education was doing nasty things. And so she exposed a lot of that and put it on the map. Once you created the Department of Education, you gave the federal government their nose under the tent. Constitution

is clear. There is no mention of public education anywhere in the founding documents for a reason. Our founding fathers knew that if you put a federal entity in charge of education, it would not be long before that federal entity was educating children for their benefit, not for moms and dads and local communities. And so it's amazing how fast things changed. 1979 rolls along. Here we are 50 years later. And now the education, what happens in our kids' classrooms is dominated by what the Department of Education says. The Department of Education has been given taxpayer money under lies.

When Biden took over, you remember how he asked for trillions more in COVID relief? We ponied up again, as we always do. And then billions of those dollars, billions and billions, were handed to the Department of Education to hand out grants to public schools to put critical race theory in. This is why we should have no federal messing with education. But Common Core, I'll say this about it. It was the final step. I think you suggested this. It was the final step that actually opened the pipeline between the federal government and your backyard school,

your little local school district. That set up the pipeline once and for all. And now it's working the way it's supposed to work, according to the left, where autocrats, people who've never been elected to anything like Cardona, our secretary of education, are taking taxpayer money, which they shouldn't have, and bribing local school districts and threatening them to start having trans bathrooms and letting boys in showers. Because if you don't do any of those things now, you're not going to get your federal money. And almost every single state, however conservative, has a liberal Department of Education. So on the state level and the federal level, you either conform or you go without your money.

Yeah. If you, if they fund it, they're going to control it. And the way they control it is going to be through these curriculum and through testing and all these different things. And that's been on there for a long time. I said for the longest time,

if we don't have freedom of education, there will be no freedom of speech and there'll be no freedom of religion. And we see that those are the things that are really under attack in the colleges. And it seems like all of our institutions have been taken over by this kind of philosophy, people who are steeped in it. And I think it's just because they've been recycling people through generation after generation, these institutions, uh, you know, they go all the way from kindergarten through a graduate school or whatever, get their degree. you know they go all the way from kindergarten through graduate school or whatever get their degree and then they go right back into the school and teach what they

just learned and that next generation every generation become it becomes more concentrated doesn't it yeah i think we've got pretty much for people under 35 the vast majority of them have been educated this way yes and and what what was the demographic that killed the red wave? In this horrible economy, everybody was geared up. We were going to see this. What killed it was single young women under the age of 35. They voted in record numbers. And the college kids, 18 to 29s, they voted in record numbers. And they were the ones who completely transformed this and handed government back largely, I mean, a small gain in the Congress. But the Senate in particular stayed left because those young people who have been miseducated for three generations now, they're becoming the future of this country. That's right.

Yeah. If you take over the schools, you take over education, you've taken over all of it. And as I was talking about before you came on, that is one of the reasons why you have communist dictators or dictators of any political philosophy, like President Xi, who is having kids sign a kindergarten. To get into kindergarten, your parents have to sign a statement saying they will stay away from all religious instruction and all the rest of this stuff, because they must be the ones who are going to set the worldview and the foundation for people. So you've got the Freedom Project Academy, and let's talk a little bit about how this works, because I think one of the, you know, the silver lining, certainly a big silver lining of this lockdown through the pandemic

was that parents got a chance to see what was actually going on in their child's classroom. And I've had this discussion with people for many, many decades have said, because I've been pushing back against this even before we homeschooled our kids. And I said, look, look at what's happening in Washington. Look at what's happening at the state level. Look at what is happening in your school district. Look even at what is happening in your own school. And they'd always say, no, but it's different in my kids' classroom. We got a great teacher. Well, they got a chance to see what was actually going on in the classroom.

And it scared them to death. So tell us a little bit what your classroom looks like. Well, you know, you asked at the very top of this segment, you asked, you know, a lot of moms and dads know something has to be done, but they don't know what to do. One of the great blessings of being in this country, and you mentioned this, is we're not yet China. And so homeschooling is a viable option or decent private schools. So there are a lot of ways to do this. And most moms and dads say, hey, I want to pull my kids out of public school, but I don't know what to do with them. And I don't have any idea how to homeschool them. We created Freedom Project for that purpose. It's a online Christian school from kindergarten all the way through high school. It's classical education. So you're not getting any of this LGTBQ garbage. And we do it

live. We have live teachers on the internet who will, your kid can log in and they've got a classroom of 25 other kids all across the world. Actually, we got kids in 14 foreign states, 48 states and 14 foreign countries. And they'll have classmates. Kids can talk to each other. They can talk to the teacher and they can bring because of technology, they can have music and timelines and pictures and film clips to help with education. So we create a virtual classroom that is every bit the equal, I think, of the typical model, but it's in some ways better because there's more privacy. This is happening in your home. No one at Freedom Project, none of our kids have had to miss a day of COVID. They never had a school shooting. They've never been bullied by sex. They've never

been forced into the wrong bathroom because they get this education in your living room. And so it is one answer, I think. And we are accredited. Our kids are graduating, going to colleges. We do all the transcripts and grades for you. But meanwhile, you can watch if you wish to, because we record the live classes. As soon as the live classes are over, we record them. You, mom, mom and dad, you have access to every single second of your kid's education. All you got to do is get on that site and go back and you can find everything that was said, everything that was done. You control and see everything.

And so we believe education, one of the reasons education has lost its way is because educrats and teachers unions and miseducated teachers have taken all the parental rights and they've adopted them while ignoring your kid's education. In a school like Freedom Project, we're giving you a school structure and we're allowing you at home to be in charge of it. That's really interesting. And, you know, there's so many different ways for people to approach it. You know, just like we have, you know, you can have homeschools or you can have private schools or charter schools or this or that or a regular public school.

There's a lot of different ways that this can be done. and as you're pointing out this is um a classroom situation like a zoom class and parents can see everything that is being done in the classroom so they have a an opportunity to monitor it which is something that you wouldn't get out of a charter school or something like that you would still have this kind of well what is really being taught there and the key part of it i think is is the fact that um you have that oversight ability uh because there's always this uncertainty when it's out of sight. What is going on? Even if you could have one teacher and they may be totally out of sync with the rest of the faculty or the principal or the mission of the school, but they could go do their own thing. And you don't know that in a school environment or in a charter school environment because that class is hidden from you. And so

I think that's a real key thing. Yeah. It is. And I think even with the charters and some of the private schools, people have to realize that many of the private and many of our Christian, so-called Christian schools, have been infected with all of this. In fact, some of the most intolerant CRT and LGTBQ programs are in our Christian schools, believe it or not. And as with the charters, as with the private schools, as you said a moment ago, they're still taking money from the state or the feds, which changes how they're able to do things. Once you start taking money from the feds, this is like all the state legislatures too. Once you take money from the feds, you get addicted to that money. You decide

that you can't live without that money. And so you're willing to change anything. Even in Christian schools, you're jettisoning the Bible and replacing it with social justice issues. And so, yeah, you've got to be very careful about that. But the key is exactly that. Moms and dads are the stakeholders. They should be in charge ultimately. That's right. People will say, you know, what's the matter with the schools? They're totally failing.

And I've said for years, they're not failing. They're doing exactly what they were designed to do. As you pointed out, you know, there was actually a Babylon Bee satire, and they said, miracle, this student graduates from seminary class and still believes in god you know i mean it's in all of the institutions any of them can be subverted that's why it's very important to be able to see that and in your particular approach you have a situation where the parents don't have to do the schooling but they still have the visibility and and the the educational resources are still there for the parents to have full, I should say, I guess the resources are accountable to the parents, which you don't have in these other formats.

And yet it offloads a lot of the work from parents and it looks more like a traditional school. But I think a lot of people are concerned about the different approaches to homeschool. They don't know exactly what they're going to do in terms of, you know, how do I teach this class or that class? And there's different approaches that have come. But, you know, this is one that people would instantly recognize because it's so much in structure like a class, but the focus is on the academics and keeping that focus rather

than some kind of a social agenda. Yeah. And the nice thing about this is that if you are comfortable homeschooling your kids, and let's say that you're doing a great job up until they're juniors in high school, but you have no idea as a homeschool mom how you're going to teach them chemistry. Well, you could just take a chemistry class. Or if you have to keep your kids in the public schools, I hope you wouldn't. But if you keep your kids in the public school, but you're very concerned that the history of America they're learning is one big lie, which is what it's going to be. And we have moms and dads who keep their kids in the public schools, but they take a history class from us. We do three

years of American history in high school, and it's completely originalist history. It's not about rewriting history. It's not about social justice. It's the actual history of this country. So their kids will get bad history at the public school, but then when they come home two times a week, mom and dad will sit them down and watch an actual recorded history class from us that at least gives your kids a second way of seeing things. We have a lot of moms too, who have kids in public schools. And so the kids don't know how to do math. And so they're learning all this goofy math stuff that is completely non-intellectual. Well, you can set that aside and show them some of our math, which is traditional math. And right away, the light bulb goes off. Kids who couldn't do math

in the public schools now can do it because lo and behold, we're teaching them math, not social justice math. Yeah, that's very important. And that's a real key advantage because that is the issue when you get to the higher levels. What do we do for chemistry? What do we do for these other things? And what has become commonplace is for people to have a co-op type of situation. But that doesn't mean that you've got anybody there that is really qualified to't mean that you've got anybody there that is really qualified to teach chemistry. You've got somebody who signs up to do it,

and they'll try to stay a couple of lessons ahead of the kids doing it. But if you could take a particular class or set of classes and kind of do the classes a la carte is what you're talking about, right? Yeah, yeah, wonderful. Something that people are looking at, a particular deficiency of your ability to teach or something that you would just like to offload. You can offload that particular class if it's something that you don't like. So you don't like math. Well, you could offload math to the Freedom Project Academy, right?

Yeah, and the nice thing is we, for high-achieving kids, we have at the high school level advanced economics. We have marine biology, we have astronomy, we have really good class of physics that you would be hard pressed. I certainly couldn't teach them. But we also, for kids who are remedial. So if you find out that your fourth grade is really reading at a first grade level, which is likely to be the case, you can bring your kids to us and we have remediation programs to get them caught up as well. We can then take not just the high achieving kids and give them those high level courses that homeschool is hard to do. We can also take kids

who are behind and try to catch them up because we have a different paradigm in public school. In the public school, as long as every kid is equally bad, that's justice, right? That's fairness. The problem are the kids who get ahead. The high achieving kids are the ones that are being artificially held down. That's what the common, by the way, in Common Core meant. People didn't realize it. All that meant was everybody's going to get the same education, a common education. And to do that, you can't raise standards. Every time you raise a standard, kids fall off. Every time you lower a standard, more kids are included.

And look, inclusivity is the only virtue the left now believes in. As long as every kid is the same kid, and that means much lower, then we have racial and social justice i remember when common core was being pushed and you had uh bush out there talking about no child left behind as well you know the converse the converse of that is no child gets ahead you know that's right and no child left behind meant don't pay don't fail them it didn't mean educate them it means everybody gets a diploma everybody gets a passing passing grade. Everybody gets to go to college. That was, and this was a so-called Republican president. So going back to the Department of Education in 79, whether you've had Republican,

conservative, or Democrat presidents, all of them have moved education to the left. That's right. Yeah, it's all Lake Wobegon curriculum, where everybody's above average. But the reality is, as you're talking about remedial classes, to give an example, we talked about in Chicago, for example, they had over 30 schools, I forget the exact number, but over 30 schools where there were no students reading at grade level. And they had over 50 schools where no students were able to do math at grade level. But as you point out, they're fine because everybody's equal. We've dumbed everybody down to the least common denominator, but I guess they wouldn't understand that either because they don't do math.

It's even worse than that. It's not that everyone's equal. You're superior. If you don't know math, math now and science are considered white supremacy. The idea that the empirical method and facts and truth, objectivity, these are being attacked by the socialist left as racist, sexist constructs designed to keep minority and women people down. That's the whole point. So science is hard. Math is science. Math is hard. So our response, well, they must be white supremacists.

So therefore, the fact that if minority kids in the inner city schools where there's no discipline, there's no family support, if those kids aren't getting the same grades as kids in wealthy suburban schools, well, then it's got to be racism. And the problem isn't the school. The problem is math itself and science itself. And that type of attitude, I remember Walter Williams before he passed away, that enraged him. He said, what you're saying here is that black people can't do

this or black people can't do that. And so we got to dumb it down. He says, you know, that's what he hated so much about all this stuff. But let's talk about what classical schooling is about, you know, kind of reclaiming the tools of loss, the lost tools of learning. Let's talk about what classical schooling is about, you know, kind of reclaiming the tools of loss, the lost tools of learning. Let's talk to people a bit about what's involved in classical schooling. Well, the first thing I would say about classical education is something nobody ever mentions. It understands human nature. Classical education starts from the premise that we're all different, that not all of us are going to be good at everything, that the purpose of education is not to make us the same. It is to make us more individual. I, for instance, in second grade, I had a first grade reading, first grade math ability.

I still have a first grade math ability, right? I was never going to get it. It was not me. And yet when I was in second grade, I had a 12th grade reading level, see? And back then, they let me read 12th grade books in second and third grade. Can you imagine with the one gift God gave me, the ability to read and to write? If I had to be chained to my second grade peers for the next 10 years before I even got to 12th grade books, that one tool that I had would have been destroyed. In the same way they're destroying math kids. If you're forcing a two-year-old, a second grader who can do ninth grade math, if you're forcing that kid to keep doing second grade math,

that math talent is going to rebel. It's going to fall to pieces because it'll have been destroyed. So when we teach kids like individuals, that allows kids who are good in sub-subjects to jump ahead. That's not discrimination. That's education. We've lost that idea. And before you say anything else about classical education, it conforms to human nature. This progressive education doesn't because it literally holds everyone down, strangles everybody from what they could do by insisting that unless they're the same, there's some kind of discrimination. It reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut's novel, Harrison Bergeron, right?

If anybody could run, they'd put weights on their legs. If they could dance, they would tie them up so they couldn't dance because they can't let anybody excel. If you've got some natural talents or some developed abilities, we're not going to let you use them. And that really is what we have incorporated everywhere. You know how that story begins, right? Harrison Bergeron.

It's wonderful. It says something like, in the year 2097, because of the 187th amendment to the U.S. Constitution, finally, all people were equal. That's great. Yeah, that's one to remember. I start out the program every day with a quote from Orwell. You know, as the clock strikes 13.

This is what's happening. This is the date as the clock is striking 13. That's kind of the world that we're living. What's that? Two plus two equals five, remember? what's happening. This is the date as the clock is striking 13. That's kind of the world that we're living. What's that? Two plus two equals five, remember, common core, right? Yeah, that is a key. So it allows people to pursue what, and to, as we point out earlier, you know, the a la carte nature of it. I think that is something that is super valuable, no matter what way you, what path you choose to educate your child, that is an incredibly valuable resource to try to pull in something that they're, they're struggling with

to try to shore that up. Or if it's something that they're super interested in, maybe you can go a lot deeper than you would be able to guide your child. Uh, and so that allows, um, as you know, about every child being a individual that allows every parent to tailor the education and the desires of their child for education, to tailor that specifically to them. So tell us a little bit. There is a really important thing to say, and I want to make sure we get this said. You also got to have a little faith if you're a mom and dad, especially if you're a Christian mom and dad. Look, do you really think God blessed you with kids that you yourself could not educate? That doesn't make any sense. That if God gave you those children, the idea that you are powerless

to educate them, why would that system exist, right? Why would God give you children only somebody else can educate? That doesn't make a lot of sense. So if you start with a little bit of faith, I've met tens of thousands of homeschool moms across the country, giving all these common core talks. And I can tell you one thing I've never yet ever, not one single time met a homeschool mom who regretted doing it. That's right. Neither have I. Everybody says it's been one of the biggest, they look at it, it's like this daunting task as, as they're looking at all this stuff, and they put pressure on themselves. But as they get into it and as they take each day as it comes,

I have seen over and over again parents who never regret it. They love it. It's one of the biggest blessings of being a parent was to be involved personally in your child's education. That's the way that God intended it. If you do this, you want to honor God, God will honor that, and he will make things happen. People need to step out in faith about that. So tell us a bit more about classical education, some of the classes that are available at Freedom Project Academy. Well, we believe classical education means, on top of everything else, teaching kids how to think, not telling them what to think. It's not prescriptive. It's not ideological. Let a child wander. If he wants to read, the more he reads, the better, right? The higher he reads. If they want to experiment with science and math, you encourage that. You don't try to discourage them. And they'll find

out. Kids are smart enough. They'll find out where their wheelhouse is. So just nurture them. So with classical education, then, the one thing that I would say that separates us from everything else, besides the fact that it teaches kids to think, critical thinking, is the fact that it's very dependent on history. If you don't know what happened, then you're going to be condemned and repeated, right? If we don't know, if we can't learn from the past, then we're animals, or we may as well be animals, right? We make the same mistakes again. This, by the way, is why the public schools hate history. They either ignore history or they rewrite it along ideological lines, right? If we told the truth about socialism,

it would be the first idea canceled. We're canceling the founding fathers because a small percentage of them own slaves. Okay, if that's enough to disqualify them, then you should completely disqualify the socialism and the hundreds of millions of people it killed. But that's the ideology. Socialism is the answer to the problem, no matter how many people had to die. And the founding fathers had to go because 250 years, they lived in a world that was not like ours. Yes. Yeah, that's very true. And talk a little bit about critical thinking.

As I've said many times, education is not the filling of a bucket, but it's the lighting of a fire. Trying to find, as you point out, what your kids are interested in, what they're good at, what their wheelhouse is, and then supporting them in that. But also, it's very different, as you point out, the goal of our government institutions are to tell people what to think. Your goal is to try to tell them how to think and how to think critically, right? That's exactly right. And you do that by exposing them to different arguments. Look, we're a Christian school, but we have our kids read the Greek and Roman mythology, the Odyssey, the Iliad, the Aeneid, not because we want them to choose paganism, but because too many of our this is one flaw of homeschooling. Oftentimes homeschool

moms and dads are so protective of their kids that they only have them read books from their own worldview. Well, the problem with that is when you go to college, you're immediately going to hear arguments attacking that worldview, but you've never heard those arguments before. You don't know what other people think. And so that's why so many homeschool kids collapse when they get to college and become liberals. It's because they can't defend what they believe because they've never read what the other people think. So classical education is about that. Think about it. Why does Washington DC look like a Roman city? You've got buildings and monuments that look like something from ancient Rome, including the White House with its pillars. That's because the founding fathers,

all of them were Christians or at least deists. There's a handful of deists. Most of them were Christians. They all believed in God. They read the pagan classics. They read Plato and Aristotle. They learned about democracy and forms of government. And the first great republic in the world was the ancient Roman Republic. So for all their Christianity, so I like to explain it this way, the ethos and the moral spine of the founding of this country was Judeo-Christianity going back through the New Testament all the way to the old. But the structure of our government isn't Christian. It's Roman in a way. It's a republic. And so if our kids aren't reading and understanding that,

they're going to be easy prey for radical leftists. Like you mentioned, when I logged on here, you were talking about Chinese education, where you got to sign off on no religion and all that. By keeping your kids away from other worldviews, you are doing effectively what the Chinese are, only keeping them in a box. And then when a better argument seems to come down the road, they have no ability to defend what they believe. That's right. And if they understand history and they understand Roman history, for example, they understand we've got to be careful about crossing that Rubicon and going from a republic to an empire.

And I think we crossed that Rubicon in many many many ways and people don't understand the difference between those two they just said well i've heard something somewhere about rome and um i think i love your i love your rubicon example right alia the die is cast, Caesar said. He crossed the Rubicon River, and forever, Rome ceased to be a republic and became a tyranny, an empire, right? An emperor, basically a king to an emperor. And not knowing that, you and I went to school, and we got that kind of education. My university kids have never heard any of this stuff. Seriously, my university kids, only about, I would say about 80% of my university

kids, they know that Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. Only about 30% of them actually realized that he was a president of the United States. It's that bad. Well, what's bad is that they are focusing them on sex at such an early age. I mean, it really has, life has become a combination of Orwell's 1984 and Harrison Bergeron from Vonnegut and Brave New World. You know, when you look at these schools, it's absolutely insane what has happened to them and how quickly it has happened in those schools. And so it is very important for us to understand the alternatives. Tell us a little bit more about some of the classes that you have, because I think it's

very important that people understand that they can get some of these things a la carte. To me, that is a very, very important feature. Absolutely. We have economics courses at every level because of kids math is important but if kids don't understand money and how to stay afloat there's going to be big problems all the debt we have um maybe i could pay for uh jerome powell to enroll yeah that's exactly right well one of the requirements we have for kids in middle school is that they take latin Not only is Latin a great

language in terms of its historical knowledge and its biblical knowledge, but Latin also is a mathematical language. You have to place things in certain ways. It's very analytic. So by teaching kids Latin as the first language they learn in sixth and seventh grade, they're going to be prepared to do Spanish and French and Italian at a much higher level because, of course, all those languages are based on Italian. But there's something so mathematical and analytically precise about Latin that it really helps them in math and science too. So we have that. We have the advanced economics. We have history courses that are American and civic-based, too. Our courses in American history don't just teach history but civics, something that the public schools ignore.

We also have, as I mentioned before, we have literature classes. Hang on there a second and talk a little bit about that distinction with civics. Oh, boy, it's a big one. So teaching kids history is oftentimes fraught because as we've seen, people, what our country owes us through law, all of that stuff, what the responsibilities of freedom are. And those can't be made up. What's in the documents say this is what we can and can't do, what we must do, what our liberties are, how government is limited. Government works for us, not the other way. That's the thing that our kids aren't getting. So they don't see the value of the Constitution because all they're taught in their history classes is that the white men who created the

Constitution eliminated women and minorities, and then we move on to something else. But when you read the documents and you find out civically what benefits and what wonderful prescience they had, suddenly you don't look at them so negatively. So civics without history is problematic, and it's one of the reasons why we are in the trouble we are today with young kids when they vote. Yeah, and of course it's also true, you know, as you come as a Christian background, if people don't understand human nature, they're not going to understand one of the reasons why we keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.

Regardless of the technology, they want kids to think that because they have computers or something like that, they're so much more advanced than the past and that the rules don't apply, but the issue still remains human nature. And that's what doesn't change. And that's one of the key things that we learn out of history. But continue on with some of the other things that you have. Well, I would say, too, about that point, because you want to know the best definition of classical education is that, right, that socialism is wrong on a lot of levels, and it's wrong precisely because it

doesn't take human social values into context. It doesn't understand human nature. Human beings are not the same. Socialism treats people as collectives, not individuals. Socialism wages war on the individual. Well, you mentioned Christianity. I think Christianity has always been the kryptonite of socialism. Why? Because there is no figure in human history, not one, who was more individually centered than Jesus Christ. When he came, he did not offer salvation collectively. That was something you had to work out with God through your own free will. There has never been a greater voice in human history than Christ when it comes to the worth and the power and the uniqueness of every individual. We're all made

in the same image of God. And so when Christianity— And that transcended ethnic groups, it transcended male and female and all the rest of these things. It's highly individual about that. You're exactly right. And it is why they have to attack that. One of the reasons is they don't want there to be any God except them. But the other part of it is that as well, because if they reduce you, as we saw with all the public health stuff, right? Public health is this imaginary thing, but we can destroy all the health of the individuals in order to

serve this construct we call public health. Yeah, and the reason we're in the mess that we are in our schools is because we are removing Christianity. The Christianity is slowly being eradicated from our culture, and with every step back, Christianity takes, socialism takes two steps forward. And so if you really want to fix this, and this is one of the reasons, by the way, homeschool works, because many, not all, but many homeschool moms and dads are Christians. And they're educating their kids to preserve the Christian way of life. And notice what happens. Not only are those kids remain, they keep their faith.

They are better students. They do better on math and science and reading and writing in college. So when Christ is there, all the education issues are taken care of. Public schools, the socialists are correct. Before you can get full socialist control of any aspect of American culture, you have got to push religion in general and Christianity in particular. You have got to push religion in general and Christianity in particular. You've got to push it off the cliff. They've been pushing for a long time now, and I don't see a whole lot of our Christian churches pushing back.

That's right. Yeah, it's one of the reasons why all these socialist collectives have always failed throughout history, because as you point out, they don't understand human nature. It was a problem for the pilgrims. It was a problem for all these, you know, the United experience and all the rest of these things. And they would come back and say, well, the problem is not socialism. The problem is the families. And we got to get the kids away from the parents at an earlier and earlier age. We see all of these threads. If we know history, even just recent history, we can see all of these threads,

all these arguments that have gone back for hundreds of years. Very, very similar to what we have right now. We've got to get rid of parents. We've got to get rid of Christ. We've got to get all that out of there. And we've got to get the kids at an early age so we can indoctrinate them. That's why it's so important for parents to take control of what their kids see, to be able to see what their kids are seeing. That's why I really like what you're doing there. One of my favorite quotes is, the problem with socialism is socialism. In other words, it's a bad, unhuman idea. The problem with capitalism is capitalists. Capitalism is perfectly a fine idea.

It works. However, some capitalists abuse it. The problem with socialism is the idea. The problem with capitalism is that some people might misabuse it. Nevertheless, the idea does work. That's right. Yeah, any system that you have, you know, a bad actor in a system doesn't necessarily mean that the system itself is bad. It's an opportunity for you to purge that out and not be corrupted by it.

It's an opportunity for reform to the system. But the not be corrupted by it. It's an opportunity for reform to the system. But the problem with any system is going to be the individual human element, and that's the key thing. But as you point out, socialism is inherently flawed in its very structure. So tell us a little bit about your approach to things that are more basic, like math and reading, how that differs from the government's approach. Well, we do hardcore phonics. You want to teach your kids to read, read fast and read well, you got to teach them phonics. No sight words, none of this garbage they're doing in the public schools now. Amen. That's true. I can say that. Everybody that I've known is phonics. It really is. Yes. It works. And this is why you said something very early on. These schools are failing because they

see failure academically as a way forward. This is not a mistake. The public schools aren't interested in turning your kids into educated people. Educated people won't follow instructions. Educated people won't surrender their freedoms to socialism. So they're literally, not figuratively, literally holding your kids back so they don't know. That's why they teach sight words. That's they're trying to get kids to look at words and memorize them. And then it's not a mistake. They can't do it. They can't read. They can't do math. Kids who't read. They can't do math. Kids who can't read and do math and look after themselves, kids who can't become entrepreneurs and take care of their own families, they will turn to government to do it for them,

which is the end game here. So we do traditional math, traditional science, purely empirical, right? All based on memorization of of uh multiplication tables we don't do common core weirdness our reading is phonics based we have them reading good books that have moral and historical lessons in them from the time they start going to school uh by the our grade levels are what they were 20 50 100 years ago. By the time your kid starts and graduates high school, we want to make sure that kids can theoretically do calculus by the time they graduate from high school. We want to make sure they're doing algebra before they get to high school.

They got to be reading serious books before they get to fifth grade or they'll never read better books. So it's not complicated. We've been doing it. We did it for a thousand years. It's just in the last 50 to 70 years, we threw it all away and went with all of this ideological crap from the departments of education that these indoctrination sites are turning kids away from teaching truth and turning all this ideology.

I agree. And of course, the solutions, everybody, one of the big problems is that most people in our society, and it doesn't matter if they're left, right, Republican, Democrat, most people still see government as a path to a solution. If we just elect the right people, if we got the right president in place, but the solution really is for us to step up and to do it ourselves. And that was always what Alexis de Tocqueville talked about, the strength of America. They would see something that was a problem,

and they would take care of it themselves. If they needed a library, if they needed a volunteer fire department, he said the Americans will put it together. He said in France, where they were under socialism, they're waiting for the government to come to their rescue. The Americans will step up and do it. But we've lost that, and the reason we've lost that is because it's been educated out of our culture and we need to reclaim that. That's one of the key things about taking responsibility for education. That's where it all starts. And

that's where all the problems in our society are founded. And that is in the kind of education that we have now. I really like what you're doing there at Freedom Project Academy. And the website is, I've got it here on my sheet here. Tell everybody where the website is. We start enrolling in middle April. So this is very timely. And check us out at FPEUSA.org. FPEUSA.org.

All kinds of information about our school. You can see every class we teach, every book we assign in every class. You can see that. Whether you come with us or not, you could take our whole curriculum. Just take it. Just get your kids educated well. We start enrolling in about three weeks, and if you have any questions, you can get a hold of anybody. Just go to F-P-E-U-S-A.org.

April 11th, and it is FPEUSA.org. And I have to say, I absolutely agree with your philosophy of education. It's one of the things that we used to do kind of ad hoc back in the days when we educate our kids. We'd go down to the bookstore, and they'd have these books, what your third grader needs to know or whatever. We'd look at that and say, no, they don't need to know that. There's something they need to know that's not in there. And oh, by the way, they're going to teach the other third graders this.

So we need to teach them how that is. Teach them that and teach them how, why we don't agree with that. You know, teach the controversy there. And that's part of the critical thinking. I really do agree with what you're doing, Dr. Pesa. Thank you so much for coming on. And again, that website is fpeusa.org, a great place to find resources, and that'll get you started for sure if you're trying to get your kid out of this system that seeks to dominate

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If you can't support us financially, please keep us in your prayers. thedavidknightshow.com so joining us now is noah sanders and he I think, something that all of you are going to be very interested in. His site is redeemingthedirt.regfox.com. And he's talking about farming, and he's also talking about pulling community together, and even talking about sharing God's gift of the early spring, showing God and the growing of this food. But he's got a lot of details. There's going to be

some seminars that are going to be coming up. He's got April training, May training, and we'll talk about that, where you can go there and get hands-on experience in doing a lot of these things. It is something I think is incredibly valuable, something that I look at with a jealousy of the people who are able to do this type of thing. I come from a different background where this is all new to me. And so we're trying to get our family up into the foundations for farming, but that is the name of his training is foundations for farming.

So joining us now is Noah Sanders. Thank you for joining us, Noah. Thank you. I appreciate you having me on the show today. Let's talk a little bit about some of the things that you cover, talking about scaling up for homestead level food security. What do people need to do? Because that's what a lot of people are looking at.

You know, food security, people are very concerned about that. A lot of uncertainty, but it's better to be able to grow your own than to stash it, I think, and get better quality stuff as well. Talk a little bit about what people need to think about for food security. Yeah. So in the U S we have, you know, kind of a generational disconnect now from a lot of that connection with the land. Historically, God's provided, you know, an amazing way that you can put seeds in the ground and they'll produce food without any huge complex industrial, you know, economic system. And throughout history, that tends to be what people always revert to, whether it's in World War II at the Victory Gardens. You had that in the Civil War in the South here, you had people have to go back and learn how to grow flax and make their own linen. All the way back at the in the Revolutionary War,

it's the only way that we were able to separate from Great Britain. So food has always been linked to freedom. And I think it's encouraging to realize that this is something that has been when times are good, people tend to move to other disciplines from agriculture, tend to get disconnected from the soil, and then have to rediscover that. It's not unique to our generation. It may be we have unique circumstances because of our technological situation, but it's something that's had to be done over and over again. And I think the biggest key for all of us in trying to get back to improving some of the food security in our own areas is to be willing to do what God loves to see, which is to be faithful with little first before we try to do everything. And a lot of people get burned out

trying to do that. So that's what we really focus on with Foundations for Farming is teaching people the basics of success so that they don't burn themselves out trying to do too much too fast to underestimate how much skill it takes to grow food. Yeah, and that's, I've talked to people in the past, they said that's the rookie mistake, is that you go out and you try to, you know, grow all your food simultaneously at the same time. You got to pick something and you got to start with that. Pick something as simple. So what is simple? What do you tell people to start with? Yeah, so we kind of break it down to three different levels of agriculture. One is, you know, growing some of your own food successfully. That's like your first, you know, thing. And normally

that's a garden is the best place to start with that. The next level up is what we would call a homestead where you're trying to actually grow a lot of your own food you know maybe a larger percentage and that is more of a lifestyle commitment like you're really going to have to make some sacrifices to do that in terms of maybe where you live and how free you are to travel and then the third is where you're actually getting other people to pay you to grow food for them that's when it's actually like a business venture a lot of people we try to you know we get right into farming when to start a business and anybody can learn to farm but it's kind of like i love to play the fiddle or the violin and anybody can learn to play one but you don't quit your job tomorrow and buy a violin and how to play

violin book and expect to make a living right it's there is a learning curve yeah how do you get to carnegie hall practice right right and a lot of mistakes that's right and that's where starting small is is nice because it's a whole lot easier to make a mistake where you lose half your chickens if you have only 10 than if you have 100 yeah yeah that's right yeah and and as you talked about that uh you know lifestyle choices you've got a lot of farm animals if you go real big with a homestead that's going to tie you down on that homestead taking care of those chickens taking care of uh cows we we've done um our first uh dip into this was chickens and we've lost you know a couple dozen two different times uh to predators that were there and that that is our biggest uh concern other than that we were doing great

we liked the chicken they liked us and they gave us lots of eggs, but it's, you know, we had some predators in Texas who love the chickens even more than we did. And so that, that was our big issue. But we're getting ready to try to do some, some gardening. But when you talk about just starting to get into it with a garden, what type of things would you recommend that people do to start out in a garden? Yeah, so we really take the approach of trying to understand

that a lot of us, when we get started in this day and age of information, some of our biggest challenges is an overwhelm of information. You know, you go on YouTube and you try to be like, what's the best way to grow a tomato plant? And you get inundated with all these conflicting ideas of what's the best way to do that. And I faced that same situation when I started farming was it wasn't as simple as, you know, when I used to do some blacksmithing and there wasn't a whole lot of controversy on how to make a knife or how to make a nail, but you ask people how to grow a tomato plant or raise a chicken. And there's some real, you know, different battling

perspectives, which really boils down to worldview, whether you view that nature has all the answers or you view that science and man has all the answers. And those impact the way that you view life and the way that you make decisions about how life should or shouldn't be treated. And so as Christians, I think it's important for us as we come to the land, not only just to say, well, practically, how can we make a success of this, but we've always really said it starts with the heart of us recognizing that to become the greatest farmer requires the greatest humility. And the farmer that I learned from the most is a guy from Zimbabwe, Africa named Brian Oldreave, who founded Foundations for Farming. And he actually was a failing farmer who was losing money in Rhodesia in the early 1980s on their farm. And so he finally got to a point that he just went to the woods where everything was growing

perfectly fine without all the plowing and the fertilizer and everything that he was trying to do in his field. And he just asked God because he saw in Romans 1 20, where it says that God's eternal attributes are clearly displayed through what has been made. And he said, show me how to farm God. And he just felt like God showed him two simple principles that were different than what he had been doing. And one was that there was no regular deep inversion plowing in natural creation. And secondly, that there was always this beautiful blanket of mulch covering the ground that protects the soil. So he just applied those two simple principles to his farm on a small scale first, and then they implemented over the entire thing. And they were so profitable and successful that at their height, he was

managing the second largest privately owned farm in Africa. And then as if you know, the story of Zimbabwe, the farmers, you know, lost the white farmers lost all the land. And so the foundations for farming kind of was born out of some of these white farmers who love Jesus saying, if a man takes away your tunic, you let him have your cloak as well. So how do we apply that if a man steals our farm, let's teach him how to farm. So they took the principles they had learned on a large scale and brought it down and began teaching it to the last least and the lost. And that's really had a huge impact in the poor. And so for us, when we teach people about approaching gardening, we just, we build it on three heart attributes of Christ. The foundation of Foundations for Farming is Jesus Christ. And it's his humility, his faithfulness, and his unselfishness that he displayed when he came.

So we display the humility by saying, like Jesus said, I only do what I see my Father doing. So when we face any problem, we look at creation and we say, well, what does my Father do? How did he design it to work? And then when faithfulness, recognizing that we've got to reflect who God is in the way that we do things, and we do that by doing things on time to a high standard with minimal waste, and then with joy, because that faithfulness is what God adds to to produce a profit. And then the unselfishness comes into play when we realize that the land God's given us is not just ours to do it for our own, you know, um, selves and our own benefit, but we want to be able to use that to bless others and to teach others and to pass along

what we've learned so that the skill of growing food can be a community thing, not just an individual thing. Well, that's fascinating. And, you know, that is an example we've seen over and over again, uh, people copying what God has done in creation. You take a look at Velcro, for example, right? They'd look at stickers and things like that. And copying his design, his aerodynamic design in terms of airplanes or in terms of even submarines, looking at how he's done the contours. That is really interesting, very interesting. And what you began with, saying, you know, you can go to YouTube and you can get all these different perspectives and stuff.

Part of that, you know, you can, the old phrase for that is analysis paralysis. You can do so much analysis that you actually paralyze yourself from actually getting anything done. And so I think that's an important thing as well to have somebody who has, um, a system that they know works and just follow that system without trying to pull this stuff together ad hoc, but talk a little bit about what happened, uh, as, uh, when they had their land taken away. Uh, so what did they do to, um, the people there in the local areas of white farmers had their land taken away. So what did they do to the people there in the local areas of white farmers had their land taken away?

What did they do? How did they engage the people there in Zimbabwe? Yeah. So it actually started a little bit before he had his land taken away. He felt like God was like, I gave you this simple system of, you know, minimal tillage and using a mulch,

not just so that you could be a successful farmer, but so that you could share with the, you know, the village across the river here. And so they began to go in and share, they would take a farmer and they would plant a field for them and show, you know, hey, just take care of this and you can compare it with your plowed plot and see how much better it is. When they came back at the end of the season, they began to realize that every year they would have neglected the field and not taking care of it. And what they found eventually is that because they were selecting one person, they were creating jealousy and the neighbors would have the witch doctor come and curse the field and then the family would be

too scared to come and work in it. So they realized it wasn't just a technology issue there was also a spiritual element that you've got to address when you come you know to to looking at some of these broken situations and there's also we want to share with everybody and invest in people who are faithful with it so that's kind of what they began doing is just having, right now they have a model farm there in Zimbabwe where they apply these principles and then they bring in the kind of the forgotten communities, the last, the least, the lost, which is where God loves to start, you know, in rebuilding a nation. And they invest in those people, not only in farming, but in stewardship in general. Foundations for Farming, we're ministry partners with

Crown Financial Ministries, which focuses on stewardship of money, because we're teaching stewardship of the land. So when we bring these communities in, and they're discipled in faith, farming, family, and finance, then they're sent back as a community, they really have a huge impact. A lot of times when they've seen the trainers and the love they have for them, and they hear the gospel, many of them will put their faith in Christ and start a church when they go back. And so recently they've developed a very simple model of growing food called Fumvudza. But it's basically a small plot that's about one sixth of an acre where you can grow where they grow corn, which is the primary staple crop that they have there in Zimbabwe and much of sub-Saharan Africa.

And it allows a family for $50 worth of inputs to grow enough food to feed themselves for a year. Wow. And most people are trying to grow five acres of corn over there and they can't feed themselves. But when they're done, they do it what we call God's way by looking at God's creation and copying his nature and the way we manage it. It's amazing to see that and the government actually came and asked them to teach into the the the you know all the agritechs and they taught it down into the communities and they they had achieved a food security for the first time since their collapse in 2008 two years ago by applying this with a hoe, just this simple principle and simple technique. And but it started by Brian Oldridge originally went to the top, the president, you know,

the minister of agriculture and tried to sell them on the idea they wouldn't listen. But then he said, well, God's upside down kingdom. Let's go to the poorest of the poor first. And it was actually those people when the poorest of the poor were the only people in the nation feeding themselves with enough extra to sell, that's what got the government's attention. And then they, you know, then Pharaoh came calling and asked them to teach, you know, it into the public sector. And I think that's an important thing for us as the church to remember is that when Jesus came, he didn't go to the rich, the powerful, the educated.

He went to simple, ordinary people, and he turned the world upside down that way. And that means that all of us in whatever sphere of influence we're in can have an impact in our nation. That's wonderful. That is a real grassroots movement. It is. Putting the stuff in the agricultural. But you really are, you're building the society from the ground up. And when you look at, you know, what has happened in Zimbabwe, you know, kicking the farmers out, facing starvation. And so, you know, they're helping themselves by helping others.

In the long term, they're helping themselves. They would be starving and people would be fighting over food. And so they're showing people how to grow, not just their own food, but to grow their independence and to grow their community and to grow their dependence on God. I mean, that that's just the perfect way to do this. That's wonderful to hear about that. Uh, so they have, um, how, how do they, um, since they lost their farm, uh, how did they, um, uh, how did they survive financially teaching other people to do it? Did they take a share of what the other people were doing? Is that how they financially made it through?

It has been different for every person. You know, a lot of what the farmers told me there is that when the, you know, there were about 5,000 white farmers, I think that employed about a million people in Zimbabwe. And when they got their land taken away, uh, you know, you have three choices. You can either fight and those who did died where you can flee, which is what most of them did, or you can stay and forgive. And only a few of them chose to do that. And, uh, so that's what some of my friends did and uh there's been times that these the team which right now the teams there that are training are mostly um black africans zimbabweans um who are really taking this on because it's the foundations for farming we have really a discipleship multiplication kind of model of ministry it's not a organizational

you know top-down kind of thing and uh and so they're really the ones rolling it out and uh and some there have been seasons where they've continued to come to work even though there was no money you know just because they were willing to serve because over there when you have a debauched currency and and and they keep having high inflation and stuff you know they're famous for that. Right, they're going through it again. And yet they just said, you know what? It really helps you to invest your treasure in heaven.

Because there was one of my good friends over there and he said that he and his wife invested in several retirement funds, really worked hard their whole life to do that. And when they went to cash those in it took them out to lunch barely without any drinks you know and uh but it really the freedom then that they have to just serve and the heart change that they said that for them as being very prideful culture that they were before self-made farmers they this one farmer friend of mine said he kind of got it backwards.

He said he thought he loved his workers and his people. He took good care of them and all that, the people that worked for him and his business. But he said, God told us to rule the land and love the people. And he said he actually realized later that he loved the land and ruled the people. And it took losing his farm to get that heart change that he said he was worth losing his farm over.

Wow, that's amazing. But that's the way God works, right? He takes the stuff away from us so that it opens our eyes, resets our priorities. And I love the fact that what they're doing and what you're doing here, you're trying to do the same thing here, and we certainly do need it.

And it'd be good for people to start preparing before something really catastrophic happens here. You're doing the, trying to do the same thing here. And, uh, and we certainly do need it. And, uh, it'd be good for people to start preparing before something really catastrophic happens here. But, um, the thing that I think is, is really key is the fact that you're not just trying to come in and help them materially. Uh, you, you're looking at the whole picture as you talked about, you know, family, creating a strong family, your faith, your finances, as well as the farm. That is the key thing. You're dressing all of this together instead of just focusing on one little aspect of it. And I think that is so important.

Yeah, it is. And I think that's, you know, as the church, what people are looking for in the world is hope. And the hope is not just in some nugget of information, you know, that we can share with them, but it's in a life, a personal life that is experiencing transformation in the same struggles that everybody else is dealing with. and that we are then just passing it along to others and unfortunately um for me i'm most i'm really passionate about agriculture uh because i feel like it's a agriculture and creation stewardship is an element of um of god's of what we've been given stewardship of as the church that we've kind of neglected

and we haven't addressed and when we we if we fail to recognize the battleground that it is the spiritual like either jesus is going to have you know rule and reign over it or the enemy is and when the enemy comes to kill steal and destroy we shouldn't be surprised when when we've abdicated we fail to you know bring uh the the principles of scripture to bear on how should we view this as christians how should we not just say well what's permissible a lot of us a lot of christians a lot of the farmers in the us are christians but i've realized that many of us are reflect not reflecting our own fate in the way that we farm not on purpose but just because we haven't evaluated it and there's a lot of problems that we don't want

necessarily whether it's poor health or unsustainability or lack of profitability but it all kind of boils back to if we aren't experiencing um increase or profit or like abundance in an area in our life and not in a prosperity gospel sense, but there's this principle of if you're faithful with little God will add to you, right? And as you measure, he'll measure to you. So if we're losing money, if we're losing health, if we're losing our kids, if we're losing all these things, maybe we're saying, maybe God's telling me I'm not being faithful because he keeps taking away from me. And maybe I need to reevaluate, you know, whether what is like I was reading the other day, if we want to shine his lights in Ephesians, it says we need to find out what pleases the Lord. And as farmers,

we're never going to do everything perfect because we live in a fallen world and we all have different starting points. But are we asking the question when I go out to take care of my lettuce plants, when I go to raise a chicken, when I go to, you know, do whatever I'm going to do? Am I trying to find out what pleases the Lord so that I can grow in that? And then not only do I get vegetables from my garden, but I also get to experience more of him in the process, which is the real reward, you know, at the end of the day. That's right. Yeah.

I think we can apply that lesson, whatever we do for a living, you know, we, we, we've seen with, uh, technology and, um, everything that's there, we're, we're constantly being, uh, moved in a direction where we're more obsessed with the, uh, the technology that we're using and we don't see the bigger picture of things and I think that you know that can happen even to farmers How much more so to people who are not farmers who are working on? You know outside of you know God's direct creation, you know We're working at many different levels away from it and I really do think that that is a key part of what we're, I certainly know that the people

that I know that have started homesteading and working on farms are some of the happiest people I have seen, especially because they're doing it themselves or working with their hands or seeing God's creation and what they're doing. And so I think that is um and tell us a little bit about this training uh sessions that you've got what do these things look like you've got one a month that is happening uh how long does it last and give us a little bit of detail about what that looks like yeah so our family we spent 13 years running a small-scale market farm where we sold kind of organic vegetables and

meat and eggs. And then a couple years ago, after some of the things that we've learned, we really felt like God had kind of given it to us to be able to equip the church to be more faithful in, you know, agriculture. So one of the things that we've done and trying to take some of what we've learned from Foundations for Farming and implement it here in the United States is we're trying to develop some very simple tools, very simple kind of recipes for people to be able to get started on a good foundation if they're going to get, you know, start growing some of their own food. So our tool for that with gardening is what we call the Wellwater Garden Project. And that's a very simple 20 by 20, 20 foot by 20 foot garden that teaches all the principles of observing God's creation, of good management, of sharing, you know, genuinely your faith in the way that you do it intentionally. And it's a kind

of a paint by the numbers thing. Here's how you space your crops. Here's how you put in your bed. Here's how you take care of them. Because not everybody needs to be an expert in every area. You know, God's called each of us to different domains. I'm not a, you know, self-defense expert, but I love learning from somebody who is so that I can be adequately prepared for whatever responsibilities I have in that. So I kind of feel the same thing with agriculture. You don't have to be a chef to cook lasagna. You just need to have a good lasagna recipe and how to follow it. Doesn't mean it's the only lasagna recipe or the best lasagna in the world, but it does help more people to be able to share around their community the joy of making and eating

lasagna. So that's what the Well Water Garden Project is. And we've got some free PDF at thewellwatergardenproject.org that people can download to be able to walk through and plant their own. And then our trainings in particular, we are focused on helping impact as many people as possible to grow some of their own food by training trainers. So we really are encouraging every family who grows a garden to pray that God would bring two people a year

for you to teach how to grow their own garden using yours and your experience so far. And at that rate of multiplication, you would have a million gardens starting from one in 10 years. So when we look at how many millions of people around the world are on the, you know, verge of real food insecurity, it's really normal everyday people being faithful to do what Jesus said, not just do, you know,

like do good works, do what Jesus said, but it says, blessed are everyone who practices and teaches these commands. And I think the commands of Jesus apply, even how do we take, how we grow food in our own backyard. And that's what the training that we do in April and May is a training for trainers. So it is equipping people to plant a garden, to follow, you know, to learn that the

whole process that we teach of, like you said, a simple system, and then also how to go back and teach people in their own community and to do it even if they have no agricultural experience. And of course, that's one of the, you know, you, um, one of the best ways to learn something is to teach it to others as well. So it really drives at home to you if you, if you know it well enough to teach it to somebody else. And, uh, if you're, if you're watching them try to do it, uh, you talk about how, um,

let's give a couple of, um, uh, samples of, uh, the type of things that you're watching them try to do it. You talk about how, let's give a couple of samples of the type of things that you're talking about. Eight simple questions to create an easy but effective garden plan. What type of questions? Yeah, so planning, we always tell people, is daunting to some people, and it's like what everybody else sometimes lean on too heavily. But planning is just a part of faithfulness because it's like what everybody else sometimes lean on too heavily. But planning is just a part of faithfulness because it's trying to answer ahead of time the questions that you're

going to have to ask anyways. Right. There's a lot of questions when you plant a garden, where are you going to plant stuff? What are you going to plant? When are you going to plant it? So planning is trying to answer those questions ahead of time so that when you're actually in the moment, you don't have as many decisions to make. So we've kind of boiled it down to four questions about the garden itself and then four questions about the crops that you're going to grow. So the four questions about your garden is, why are you planting it? Because the motive behind it is really important. Who is this for? Why is this? Is this food security? Is this just nutrition? Is this for beauty? Is this to teach somebody else? That's going to determine how you design your garden.

The second is who's going to take care of the garden? A garden is just a reflection of the gardener. So you can't have a garden without a gardener. And you need to make sure you match the garden with the labor and the skill level that you have at your disposal to take care of it. Then the fourth, the third is where will you put it? And then what are your space, you know, space limitations and those kinds of things. And what's your site and then how big will it be based on, you know, some of the previous questions. Then the last four questions,

once you got your garden in and you've got a good site and you've got a good foundation for that is who are you growing the food for? When I was growing for market, a big part of our success was knowing how to identify what our customers value, because you can be a really good farmer and gardener. And if you grow something that at the end of the day was 100% successful crop and yielded a huge harvest, but nobody wants it, you haven't added value to anybody's life, right? So overproduction is the worst form of waste. So identify who it is you're growing for and make sure that you're not growing something that you're going to drop off or they're going to harvest and be like, I don't care about this. I had a friend of mine who was trying to serve a community with a garden and he realized nobody cared about the food at this point

in time, right? And he grew flowers again the next year. And it was one of the biggest, most popular things in the community because everybody wanted flowers because he was able to identify better like what it is that this that garden was for. And then, you know, based on what who it's for, what are you going to plant? That's the second, you know, the second of the four questions. And then where will you plant each of your crops? And that has to do with rotations and organization of the garden. We give tools and help people understand how to lay that out simply. And then there's just the scheduling.

When are you going to plant it? And for me, like I'll have a calendar you can see in my back wall here. And I just write down once I get all this plan, I'll just write down this week I'm planting spinach. And I can look at the way I have all the questions I've answered. I know I know the spinach goes here and this is how much I'm planting. Cause this is how much we need. And here's the spacing is going to be, and I just go do it.

And it's a whole lot of fun because there's not a whole lot of stressful questions to answer. Once I actually get out into the garden. That's great. You mentioned the thing that was a fundamental insight was that he could do the planting without any plowing, without any tilling. So,

so how does that work? What do you do instead of that? How do you get the seeds in the ground? Yes, well, it's amazing. All the plants that we see growing out here that's not part of my garden in Alabama, they grew without any plowing or any fertilizer or any chemical sprays or any of that, and they look a whole lot better than most of my stuff. So God already has in place an amazing natural fertility system.

And the plowing and tilling that we tend to see today is different than what, like when the Bible talks about plowing, their plows were more of like a pointed, you know, you talk about you beat your plows into, you know, your plows into sorts and you're, you know, it's just, it wasn't like this huge thing. Yeah. I can't remember. There's one verse where it goes one way and one way or the other. And, and so it was just, it opens up the ground and scratches it where it's a minimally disturbing it, just like the birds do. Or, you know, when an animal goes and roots up in the forest, a seed that's laying on top of the leaves will get in touch with the dirt and that seed to soil contact all that's all it needs

to grow and what we often share with people as we go out and we just show we look in depth in natural creation and the soil and look that natural soil has life in it. It has an amazing system of microbes that are continuously fertilizing the plants. It has strata. It functions in layers. It has a continuous application of organic matter on the top. And all these amazing things that, yeah, it's not sin necessarily if you plow it. But what we're doing is we're destroying that natural fertilizer factory that's in place. And we have to come in with a lot

of synthetic fertilizers and kind of over you know overcome that so when the simple method is all we do is when we're putting in our garden is we say how can we remove the weeds initially without disturbing the soil as much as possible so we'll do that by either just cutting them off right at the surface kind of like you'd remove sod, or we'll smother it. You ever left something out in the lawn too long? Yeah. The grass is dead, right? And then we'll add compost on top of that and mulch on top of that.

And then the worms and the bugs come in and they make the structure of the soil kind of like a loaf of bread or a slice of bread. It's got air. It feels firm, right? It doesn't feel fine, but it's got up to 70% air in it. It will wick moisture up and keep it near the roots of the plants. It's stable. So it doesn't wash away. It's got plenty of channels for the microbes to do their things in. What we tend to do is plant in flour, just straight flour, you know, that's pulverized and it seems loose and nice, but it actually is more,

ends up being more of a growing medium that we have to inject fertilizer into and becomes more and more dead over time. So it's, it's a very simple system that is incredibly effective. Even here in our Alabama red clay soil, that seems like you would have to break it up and plow it to be able to grow things. And you don't, it's amazing. It really is counterintuitive. Every time I do it, I'm like, this should not work, but it does. That's really interesting. How do you, uh, how do you keep the birds from eating the seed that you put out? Or do you just put out more

seed knowing that they're going to, what do you do about that? Well, we do cover the seat up and we teach people that you know from a understanding a biblical worldview a biblical worldview is just knowing the story that we live in right of history we live in a world that was intended to be one way god had intended we we turned away from that way and decided to do it our own way so it broke stuff and so then now we live in this broken world that jesus came and he provided a way for our hearts to be restored to god and then for some of those that heart to then apply a degree of redemption to creation currently but we're still in the midst of this broken world looking forward to the ultimate like restoration of anything so we're not going to have the garden of eden right now we're still going to deal with death decay disease disorder all that kind of stuff but we will there

is a beautiful picture of that redemption when we come and apply that so part of our job as gardeners once we plant the garden is we've got i always teach you there's three p's that you've got to do once you plant your garden you've got to provide for it plant your garden. You've got to provide for it. So that means, you know, maybe it's support, maybe it's water, like a trellis to grow up or you have to water it. You got to maybe add some extra fertility through some more compost or a chicken manure tea or something to give it. And then the second P is you've got to protect it. There's all sorts of things that want to, you know, threaten your garden.

And so I've got a fence around mine. I've got some frost cover on it right now. I've got to watch for the bugs. I've got to watch for all sorts of things because the reality is a lot of us are growing vegetables that are not native to the climates we live in so they require a little extra babying because they're from the mediterranean or somewhere um and then the third p is you got to pick it you got to make sure you get out there and and take care of it but as far as the birds go um we're all we cover the seed up so that we make sure that they can't actually see that but we also expect when i was doing my

market garden if i can get 70 of what i plant to harvest then that's a good you know i'm always factoring in that that 30 margin of just some things aren't going to make it and that's okay. And that's part of the process of humility. That's great. You have a well watered garden.org. Is that, is that correct? That's a website where you're talking about. That's the,

the resource, the free resource where people can download that. And then redeeming the dirt.com is where people can go to learn more about the trainings. If they want to get equipped in that resource, more in depth and actually learn to get equipped in that resource more in depth and actually learn to teach people in their own communities because we really need an army of biblically um of christians with a biblical perspective on creation stewardship where we can

teach people to use what they have at their disposal in their own communities to feed themselves because once you get to the point in our nation where food shortages affect people's meal today, there's going to be so much demand for people wanting to know how to grow their own food that it's going to be unmeetable. That's right. And so I really want to focus in this season of time that we have of equipping as many people to be in these communities to say, I can serve you. I'm not in the same boat you are. I've started with my family, and I'm here with what I have to serve you. It's so easy to fall into this mentality of protect ourselves from the poor and the people who might not have anything

in those kinds of situations. But in Psalms 41, it actually says says if you make a plan for the poor or if you consider the poor god will protect you from your enemies provide for you in the land in times of trouble deliver you from your sick but all the things that we as you know as preppers sometimes are are trying to attain god said i'll take care of those if you have a heart for the poor if you use what i've given you to share with the same people who were in the boat you were just a little while ago before Jesus started helping you in these areas. And I think that's the DNA that I want to equip the church with so that we are in a position to really have an army of harvesters for the harvest, both of people that want to return to stewarding the land

well and rebuilding our local economies, but also that then are hungry for hope spiritually when what they've normally been hoping in has failed them. Yeah, it's so true. And if you look at what the plan is, the plan is to isolate us. The plan is to shut us down and to have us all, you know, in our fed, whatever they want to feed us in our own little cubicle, small micro apartment or something like that. They don't want us meeting together. They don't want us going to church. I think this is the perfect counter example to that. Teaching people how to, you know, understand how to provide food for themselves, building a community, building faith in each

other. I think it is the perfect counterbalance to everything they've been trying to push and are going to try to push against us. That is one of the ways that you've got to push back in terms of building a community, building things up from the grassroots level. And it ultimately is going to be the food. I mean, we can talk about people storing all types of things to protect themselves and to be able to barter with and all that is important, but you've got to have that food. And at the same time, you're building a community.

I think it's a great plan. Tell us a little bit about why the wellwateredgarden.org. Is there something specific about the way that you're setting that up? Or is that just the title that you came up with in terms of taking care of the garden? No, I love that question. The well water garden comes, that term is not really referring to the way we irrigate the garden or anything. It really refers to the heart behind the garden, which comes from Isaiah 58, which that whole part of Isaiah 58 is where the nation of Israel is saying, you know, God, we're having all these problems and you're

not blessing us. It's like, you're not hearing us and we're rending our clothes and fasting and doing all these religious things. You know, why don't you hear us and heal our land? And he basically comes back and says, the fast that i'm looking for is that you clothe the naked that you feed the hungry that you have a heart for the poor you you you have the same heart that i have for others that you to show that you belong to me and that you care about me and he says if you do that then one of the things that he promises is that will be like a well watered garden um in like an arid area in an arid place like this beautiful vibrant example of life of light in the midst of darkness and that's the

heart we really want to have behind the well water garden project is where it's really a a an others centered motive for planting a garden this is not a fear-based self-preservation idea but it's an idea that if I'm faithful and if I share with others, God will then be the one that provides for me. And at the end of the day, that's our only hope, right? And all these kind of things, because everything's out of our control much more than we think. And we want to be in a position where God says, I will add to you if you're faithful. I will add to you if you're generous.

And if you have, if you prioritize what I prioritize, which is the last, the least, and the lost, because that's really recognizing that's all of us without Jesus. And as we experience in that hope and change, if we're really experiencing it, then we'll want to pass that on to other people. And so the idea of that well-watered garden is really referring back to that heart based on Isaiah 58. I really love that. And of course, we saw that with the farmers that began all this stuff in Zimbabwe. What a different approach than you would expect, right?

Rather than fighting it or running from it. Okay, you're going to take a land. Let me show you how to grow food on it so we can all eat. That's just amazing to me. But it is really the heart of Christ and the heart of God. And I love what they did. I love what you're doing with this stuff. I'm anxious to see your wellwateredgarden.org website.

I really do appreciate what you're doing, Noah. Thank you so much. And people can find out about, and i'll just give you give people a couple of bullet uh uh points that are here because i think it's very important we didn't talk a lot about a lot of the specifics here but you did mention the eight simple questions about creating an effective garden plan and of course there'd be a lot more detail in that with the seminars uh clear a spot for your garden without plowing or tilling make thermal compost and natural organic fertilizers

because that's a key thing that's one of the things that everybody is you know you when they're trying to put the farmers out of business in uh the netherlands uh they're actually turning fertilizer into contraband it's like you know just trying to smuggle drugs across here we don't want your fertilizer in here that's the way they shut the farmers down. And so, you know, making your own. Lay out garden beds with a simple system. Allows for an ease of management space for a variety of crops, plant seeds, or transplants with simple spacing system. Easy to follow, easy to remember. Care faithfully for your garden with three simple tasks. Train others what you've learned. All this stuff, as well as alternative off-grid energy and backyard chickens.

Give us a tip for protecting our chickens. Well, I have, yeah, I could probably write a book on how to die, how, how chickens can die because there's a lot of different ways that they can do that. But no, just a really good fence, a really good shelter, a really good dog. There's a lot of different ways that you can, you know, provide physical or, you know, biological ways to protect those chickens. But a lot of this just has to do with go out. And when you have a problem, God sometimes gets our attention through these things because he wants us to come back and ask him. There were some one more story. Some guys in Africa were in a village situation. They had been trained by my friend Brian Oldreave on how to put in a garden and some plots.

And one of the questions he had taught them is, you know, to ask God when they faced a challenge, you know, to say, what does my father do? And they had the problem of elephants getting into their garden. That would be hard to protect. Yeah, like you can't even build a fence for that kind of thing. Right. And so they just said, all right, well, we'll just, Brian taught us to praise and ask God, so we'll just ask God. Well, God showed them that elephants don't go near their own manure. So they went and collected some elephant manure, put it around their field, and they had no more problems with elephants. Wow.

So sometimes, you know, it's just, that's why I say to become the greatest farmer requires the greatest humility. Because, you know, Joel Salatin is one of the greatest uh recent modern day livestock innovators and he is always like how does god design things brian oldreave went back he kept to a point of i don't know how to do it how do you do it lord and like you said in so many other areas but most of the time you know how it is i'd rather go to my phone then stop and pray there's just this spiritual block because it requires a humiliation of degrees for us to say, I don't know it and ask God. But if we can learn to do that, God is just waiting. He's the master farmer. He has the solution to every problem and he is ready to share that with us. And if we knew personally the best farmer in the entire world and he said, you can call me up anytime.

Why wouldn't we do so? Right. we do we do have that and that's those kind of testimonies is then what gives us the opportunity when we share with other people about our own garden that we can point back to that experience where it's not just a oh by the way let me tell you about Jesus but it's like I was at my wit's end, and then I asked, and the Lord showed me this. And then it's genuine. Yeah, that's amazing. I've seen pictures of elephants just for fun pushing down trees. I mean, there's not anything that you're going to do to stop an elephant,

but they don't like their own excrement. That's interesting. That's great. I love that story and the other stories and i love what you're doing noah and again people can find this at redeeming the dirt.com that's where you can find out about the training sessions they have them coming up on a regular basis if you want to start building your community you can think of a better way to do it than to help other people to grow food and to all all the other aspects of this.

And, of course, you have the free site at wellwateredgarden.org. Thank you so much, Noah. Great talking to you. Yeah. Can I share with you one more resource for your students? Redeeming the Dirt Academy.com is a free online training platform where it has a community and training videos and all that. If people want to get a sneak peek and go ahead and get started in some of the material, we have hundreds and

hundreds of farmers and gardeners and homesteaders from all over the world that love Jesus and love farming and gardening on there, sharing resources, learning together. And if anybody wants to really get plugged in that community, they can go to redeeming their academy.com and sign up for free. That'd be great. Okay. Super. Yeah. We'll definitely check that out in our family.

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Please don't forget to share the links and pray for the country as well as our family. All right, and we have been able to finally get ahold of our guests. We had difficulties getting through Michael Yon is our guest. Uh, he is a guy who's a former special forces soldier, former green beret, and he has been doing reporting and many other things and, uh, uh, we're getting him on here at the very last minute. And I asked Michael if he would like to reschedule for another day, if we just do it with the time that we got left, we're going to go with the time that

we got left, uh, which is his preference. So we had a lot of things that we wanted to talk to you about. Michael, what would you like to start? You want to give us a little bit of a background about your work before we talk about some of the specifics. Uh, about either what you saw in Japan or what you saw in Panama or about prepping. I know that's real real passion of yours. Give people a little bit of a background as to what you do.

You're a reporter who travels the world. Tell us a little bit about that. I never call myself a reporter, by the way. I was a war correspondent for years. Iraq, Afghanistan, Philippines, Thailand. I got kicked out of Hong Kong inong in 2020 and on and on and on that's been years in various wars and uh a lot of combat there's a big difference between a war correspondent and a combat correspondent most of the war correspondents just kind of go and hang

out in the hotel that's not me uh right now you might hear you might hear a helicopter in the background that's a black hawk that just landed nearby and uh i'm in the darien gap right now i don't know if you can hear that you probably hear the birds at least yeah but the helicopter's got background that's a black hawk that just landed nearby and i'm in the dairy and gap right now i don't know if you can hear that you probably hear the birds at least yeah the helicopter's got it's got can you hear the helicopter no don't hear that but i hear the birds pretty clearly it's a it's a it's a pretty loud black hawk back there these uh modern uh found uh cancellation things are pretty amazing but anyway these um yesterday secretary mayorkas was to come down here uh and uh to expand the size of these camps he's the secretary of homeland security

right and um so he's down here with the south com commander four-star general and the ambassador right so they landed at an airfield right behind me here i am in darien province panama darien province panama is the province which borders colombia right this is the corridor like the hourglass from the entire world going to the united states right now through here about 1200 people per day are coming through uh and the numbers increase that doesn't include what people that are joining the flows up in mexico and guatemala and those sorts of things this is just from all over africa all over asia many chinese we've been talking with right now in fact my team is right next door in a camp i had to jump out of the camp to come uh talk with you because i'm having signal problems over there so darien province is famous

for the darien gap the gap is about 60 miles of uh somebody's coming in about 60 miles of um just roadless jungle between panama and colombia if they call it the gap because the highway goes all the way from from um from alaska all the way to Tierra del Fuego down at the top, bottom of, depending on which way you're looking, top or bottom, of South America. And then there's this gap of about 60 miles between Columbia and Panama where there's just no jungle. And so the Darien Gap is where I'm at now. I'm right on the edge of it. This is where migrants come in from all over the world. They die out there in huge numbers. Actually, the IOM, which is the immigration,

basically it's a UN-sponsored, which means American-sponsored, immigration operation. They hand out rape kits. And when I say rape kits, I mean we've got one. I'll show you. I can show you tomorrow. But the rape kits are not rape kits like the test to see if you've been raped and collect DNA. These are kits to get raped. I mean, they have birth control pills, condoms.

They have morning after morning after abortion pills. These are sponsored by U.S. dollars. So many women get raped out here. It's unbelievable and murdered. Last week or so, Oscar Blue is a Mexican journalist. He's a good friend of mine. And Ben Berkwam, an American journalist, also a good friend of mine. We're out in the Darien Gap, not far from here. I've helped them get out here. And they were with the Panamanian Special Forces Team, Cinefront, highly professional people. And some women came in, they've got this on video. The women came in crying, screaming screaming the children are screaming and crying and uh you know the men are in shock and uh and they told the center front special forces team panamanian

special forces right in front of ben and oscar their video was running where these colombians were two or three days walk inside of the jungle here not far from here uh very close actually and they the special forces team marched out into the jungle, deeper into the jungle for about five hours. They found them. They ambushed them. They killed one of the Colombians just as he was about to rape another woman. This is on video.

It's online now. Ben Berkman put it up. So, and then captured the other two. And then about 48 hours ago, they captured, I think four more. And so that's why you might hear a lot of helicopter activity back here one is secretary mayorkas came down here and they're increasing the size of these

camps and increasing the flow they did that last april when i i come here all the time i spend months down here in this jungle and you know new york times just came through and did a puff piece and trying to to to get up uh more uh emotions to get more funding to invade the United States. And by the way, Lara Logan, the famous journalist, she just messaged me this morning that she was warned about a mass casualty event possibly down on the U.S.-Mexican border with Texas. There's huge camps of migrants on the Texas border. I'm down there with them all the time. They're on the Mexican side. They call down there with them all the time. They're on the Mexican side.

I go, they call it the Mike side, the Mexican side. I'm on the Mexican side all the time. There's warnings that those camps may dump out straight into Texas soon. And that emergency responders need to have extra body bags and ice and all this sort of stuff. That just came from there this morning, right? That's probably going to happen in about a month when they get rid of this title 42. That's been one thing that's changing. Is that what, what is driving this? What is, uh, what is the push and the pull for this immigration in your opinion?

Well, the human osmotic pressure, that push and the pull of migration, we know what's causing it. This is not conspiracy theory. This comes from their mouth. This is on their website the un website that the wef world economic forum as well they're crystal clear that they want 1.2 billion with a b billion with a b 1.2 billion people to migrate right yes and so when i i spend a lot of time in europe i was just over in netherlands and germany and lexemburg and hungary and all those places. I spent more than six years in Europe. I run around there all the time. I was just in an election in March in Netherlands. Those places are overrun with migrants. I mean, unbelievable. When you go to Luxembourg, Luxembourg used to be the jewel of

Europe. When I was in special forces, we parachuted in there to do training, to do stuff. Afterwards, we did a big tour of Luxembourg, and it was beautiful. It was unbelievable. You could let the kids play around at 2 in the morning, no problem. Now, broad noon daylight in Luxembourg City, I'm telling you, it's dangerous. I saw at least 10 fights, maybe a dozen fights in about 10 days. Every day I saw fights and there's, there's African, uh, drug gangs running the street corners, downtown Luxembourg city by the train station. If you're

in Luxembourg, you're in Europe, just go over there and look for yourself and, and, and, uh, be careful daytime or nighttime people defecating on the streets, doing drugs on the streets in the open, literally, literally needles. They're still using on there i thought people didn't even use those anymore i don't know anything about drug use other than i see zombies everywhere whether it's in los angeles i see them or san francisco because i also travel all over the united states you know i was at january 6th and watched you know the people do the things that they did and i was there in atlanta with antifa and portland with antifa the drug addicts are absolutely incredible and i'm not talking about mega people i don't need a helmet and body armor around mega people around there you just need a smile and everything goes

i can talk bad about trump in front of mega people and nothing happens they just disagree with me right but if i cough one bad word against biden I could get killed in front of those Antifa clowns or BLM. Right. I mean, that's the kind of things that we're dealing with. We're being invaded. This is an invasion. This is a replacement strategy. Not unlike Stalin did with the kulaks in Ukraine. Not unlike Mao did, you know, destroying the farmers. I just got a video this morning from Netherlands from a Dutch lady I know. They were destroying the last farm in her village yesterday. They're taking these farms and the farmers own about 60 to 70 percent of the land in Netherlands. They're the most efficient farmers in the world,

but they're taking that farmland in Netherlands to develop something called Tri-State City. Tri-State City is a massive smart city, supposed to contain about 30 million people. The maps were already drawn. People will say, that's conspiracy theory. I say, be quiet, put your little fingers to work, and look up Tri-State City. The plans are drawn, and they're making it right now. And people still call it conspiracy theory.

They've already broken ground. Tri-state city contains the two biggest ports in Europe, Rotterdam and Antwerp. Rotterdam, of course, is in Netherlands. It's the biggest port in Europe. And the second biggest port in Europe is Antwerp. These are the biggest ports in Europe when it comes to their supplies, right? That's their main arteries. Tri-state city is at the end of the belt and road initiative railway that goes all the way through chinese money all the way from shanghai and chengdu and all that all feeds all these various feeders through china goes all the way across uh asia through europe and ends

at rotterdam that's why they're building it there this isn't none of this stuff is right in front of everybody but everybody's too busy watching soccer games or something they're going to be destroyed these migrants here in this camp right beside me 300 meters away they are coming to take your homes that's what this is all about it's not hidden it's right in plain view that's right and kicking people off of the farms that has a dual purpose uh they want to uh enslave everybody in these smart cities where they can pack everybody into that. They've got to get people off of the land, but it also takes away our independence when you take away our food.

And as you pointed out of Netherlands, incredibly efficient. I think they're second only to the United States in terms of the amount of food that comes out. And that's such a tiny nation, probably the most efficient farmers there. And so they come after them and say, you can't have any fertilizer. You can't have a farm.

You can't have dairy cows, any of this stuff. This is by fiat. It is a dictatorship. As you point out, the great replacement truly is part of the great reset. And it's fundamental to that. What is really, um, in terms of driving it, uh, there's a, who do you see, um, giving these rape kits out there? This is NGOs that you're seeing down there, right?

Right. This is OIM or IOM. For instance, if you're in Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam, and you go to Departures Terminal 3, walk in, you know, the little revolving door to your left, you'll see an IOM or OIM, depending on the language. You'll see their

office right there handing tickets out, helping people get tickets. For instance, Chinese that we talked with yesterday, straight from mainland China, Christians actually, they just had flown from China over to Amsterdam, got on an airplane and went to Ecuador. Then they took the bus from Ecuador to Colombia, and now they're here, right? And soon they'll be up in the United States. So the OIM is the one facilitating all this. They're, they're from the United Nations, but that's, there's, there's OIM tents, 300 yards from me. They stay in this little hotel I'm at right now.

I popped out to this hotel to get wifi so we can talk. They literally stay in this hotel. I mean, they're usually they're here having lunch, but I don't know where they're at right now. So this is the sort of thing that goes on here. And these are funded by the United States and the EU and other partners, the World Economic Forum and CCP, the Chinese Communist Party. I used to look at them as partners, but it's clear that they're co-sanguinated. For instance, they have the annual meetings in Davosos and then they have other annual meetings in china and it's on their website and it's clear that they completely cooperate now

eventually they're going to fight each other because they both have similar goals reduce the world population take control of the food supply take control of energy supply put smart cities all over the place they both have those things in common but at some point the CCP ER as they call them in Hong Kong I spent a lot of time in Hong Kong in fact they got kicked out of there you can see it online me getting kicked out by the police take them to the airport but the Hong Kong they they have you know they should have kicked me out after seven minutes but they kept me for seven months but they but they the the ultimate goal of the CCP, Hong Kongers call them Chi-Nazis, Chinese-Nazis. And the reason they call them Chi-Nazis, when you ask the Hong Kongers, why do you call them

Chi-Nazis? Look at my Twitter. I've got a Chi-Nazi photo that I took in Hong Kong. They call them Chi-Nazis because they're ultra-racist. The Han Chinese are taught racism. Now, what is Nazism and what is fascism? Fascism, of course, is when government and business become indistinguishable. They're basically a divine in the tree. I mean, Nazism was a party that takes fascism and adds a huge racial component to it, right? So you can have fascism which is not really

nazism but once you get to that next level which is what ccp is they totally want to wipe out basically everybody on planet earth except for han chinese and that includes hong kongers hong kongers are not part of the club hong kongers they speak cantonese language not mandarin they're smaller they look different they look different to me like i can tell them apart but a lot i mean most most people even asians can't tell the difference between hong kongers and mainland chinese but i can because i spend so much time in china and hong kong and all over asia right but i mean but the point is is the chi nazis the the ccp the chinese communist party wants to destroy even the hong k. And, you know, Taiwan, as you can see today, there's a naval, there goes one of the buses right there, literally behind me. I wish I could get this blurry thing off so you might be able to hear it. But there's a bus that just went behind me.

That's the pickup invasion force. They basically pick them up at this camp the night before last. It was 14 buses and and they just every night and day they're they're heading straight to the costa rican border where they drop them off and then from there they head to costa rica of course and then from there they go to nicaragua and they continue north up to guatemala and they finally cross this river uh at a place called tapachula in mexico I've been up there. Tapachula is the most southern city in Mexico. It's like El Paso, actually. And there's actually a river there. And the migrants

will cross the river. If the river's low, they'll just kind of walk across and roll up their pant legs. Or if it's a little higher, they get on the inner tubes with the sticks and that sort of thing. And then they go to Tapachula in process in the Mexico, and then they head north. You should see these maps. I wish I had one, but my team is off in the camp right now. And I'm going to go catch back up with them soon. But these maps tell them exactly how to get to the United States. It tells you the stop places. It tells you the things to complain about or, you know, to get you entry in the United States. For instance, you'll have a lot of the migrants coming up and saying, telling you that they're gay, right? Constantly,

which this never happened even a couple of years ago. They just come up, say I'm from Ecuador or whatever. Now they're all like corporal clinger. They're all like, you know, they know that that will, yeah. I mean, I'm like, I say to some of them, I'm like, I got good gay. Are you're not gay. They're like, well, yes, but we have to say that, you know, I was like, you know, others I'm like, yeah,'re not gay they're like oh yes but we have to say that you know it's like you know that's just like you know others i'm like yeah you know they're get your sex and go straight oh yeah they're like they got to get their section eight for people that know max that's exactly what's going on right and you remember when the commander on mash what was the colonel's name uh i feel like that colonel you know talking to these guys like some of them i'm like yeah

you're not a section eight, you know? Anyway, it doesn't matter. That's the point. There's the lawyers that are here and they're telling people what they have to say. Because a lot of these people are coming. First of all, they're coming through Panama. Panama is very safe, right? This is a very safe country.

And they come through Columbia, which in some parts are very safe and other parts are very dangerous. And they'll come through Ecuador. That's where the chinese land is ecuador ecuador is super safe right many come through brazil there's americans that move down to brazil there's americans that move here to panama all the time so i mean there's they go through costa rica which is a huge tourism uh spot for you know then they go up through you know they continue up north and you know there's there's villages in guatemala that are empty. They're empty because the villagers are in the United States or all over the United States. As our economy collapses, this is a clear replacement strategy. For those who don't know much about war, this is all I study is war, information war,

pandemic, famine. This is what I study seven days a week right going around to countries around the world watching the conditions develop the world economic forum is crystal clear they're going to cause famines which is coming and those famines will create that human osmotic pressure the human osmotic pressure is the push and pull of migration they're going to come right here the reason i'm in panama is panama is two hourglasses one hourglass is this migration corridor this highway that here to my right that's highway one that is the highway that ends down here and goes all the way to alaska this is the highway that's the reason the camp is right here it's on highway one so they come out of the darien gap they go to

this camp and then one other camp that i'll be at again today And then they get on buses and they go up this highway and they come to Texas right or Arizona or whatever But there's a lot of them go to California. It doesn't matter They they get into the United States bottom line and they get into Canada. We also have them coming across the northern This isn't just here like for instance of what a year and a half ago. I was off in Lithuania warning about Belarus pushing Migrants into lithuania they tried to push them into poland that didn't work i was down in morocco which is northern africa warning about the same thing i was over in greece on the turkey border this weaponization of migration is an old form of warfare it goes back since before any of us were born i mean it

goes back it's funny i was on one interview a couple of years ago and I talked about pandemic, famine, war, pan for war, pandemic, famine, war. They always go together. It's like the triangle of death. And one of my readers, she said, you know, you talk about pandemic because she called in, you talk about a pandemic famine war as if you made it up. And I said, I did. And she goes, no, no, it's in the Bible. And I was like, actually, you're right sorry about that it's the four horsemen that's probably where i got it from you know actually yesterday i was in one of the camp in masako ganaha she's here she's in the camp right now she saw one man drying his bible he was he was from uh ecuador right i think it was from ecuador he was drying

his bible in the sun we went and we talked with him. He had just come across, obviously, the river. Well, I mean, he was in good condition. There's no problem with him. He was alone, and he was literally, he kept turning the pages in the sun to dry his Bible. And she asked him what the most, you know, it's funny, she asked questions in a woman's way, which is much smarter than the way men ask questions. I would have asked him, you know, what's your favorite part of the Bible? Masako asked, she's from Japan. She said, what'd she say? She said, what part of the Bible is most helpful to you? You know, that's a much smarter way to put it. And I was like, yeah, that's, you know, I need to adopt that. And he goes, oh, and he immediately said the passage. It was something in Joseph. It was, what's the part

in Joseph where it's like, you know, you shall be sustained and you know uh basically you know keep your spirits up he immediately like he knew the passage by heart he said it in spanish but he yeah of course he went through all that uh preparing for the famine now i got a question because we got these ngos and they're running this stuff and i think that would explain why they're not coming and you know why wouldn't they come in in Mexico? It's a shorter trip, right? Why are they going down into South America? And that's because they've set up these, you know, their headquarters.

Why do you think they've set up their headquarters further South? Is it because it'd be an issue with Mexico? Because we could lean on Mexico to the extent if they set it up there. Why are they setting up these headquarters and, you know, shipping the people in with these NGOs further further south south of panama excellent question usually people don't think of that but it's actually it's a very long journey it's a long dangerous journey if you cut it short you know but but again it's the whole thing's being driven by these ngos what what is what it's about that i think you know okay uh numerous things actually uh these logging

trucks man they're just taking these virgin giant trees out of a jungle chinese are but anyway the um um um yeah that's another terrible uh anyway but yeah what they're doing many of the migrants i'm sorry go ahead sir no i was gonna say yeah we do need to talk about that get you on again to talk about what the chinese are doing there and taking over Panama. But yeah, let's go back to the NGOs and why they're set up for their self. Oh, many of the migrants, they can't get a visa, say, to go to Mexico or straight to the United States. Many can. And those who can do.

But then there's others they have to go to. Like Haitians will tend to go to and Cubans will tend to go to Suriname first. They'll often go to Suriname because they don't need a visa. Many go to Brazil or Chile, right? So many of those groups go to Brazil, Chile or Suriname, many go to Suriname. And so, and then from there, they'll make their way over Columbia and then go through the Darien Gap. Now others, like Chinese will go to Ecuador first. Now many of the Cubans and Brazilians, I mean, sorry, Cubans and Haitians, have lived in Brazil or Chile for years. So they'll throw their ID cards away before they get to the Mexican side of the border.

I have bags for them. I've given them out to congressmen and senators that have their passports and their IDs from Chile and all this stuff, or their passport will be, like,, um, from Cuba or whatever. They'll throw those away, but they'll have IDs that are like from Chile. Now, if they come into the United States with that ID and they get caught with it, they may not be allowed in because Chile is a safe country. And many of them have worked there for like five, six, seven years, right?

You'll see the sweet spots about six years now. Many of them have worked there for about six years, five, six, seven years, right? They have to pretend they're refugees. Uh, and so they,

they can't come from a safe country. That's right. And so in these camps, this one here beside me, San Vicente and another one about eight miles away or so called Las Blancas. Uh, there's literally a tent there that gives you the legal advice, you know,

get your section eight, basically act gay, LGBT, uh, act. Um, you have to say that, you know, that you were persecuted in the country that you came from. Now, according to the law, you should stop at the first safe country, not work your way up to, you know, Canada or the United States. So they're going through multiple safe countries. For instance, the Chinese going through Amsterdam first. Okay, you're in Netherlands, safe country. But then they proceed to Ecuador, Ecuador, another safe country. Then they go to Colombia, another safe country. They go through here, Panama, and they go to this camp in Las

Blancas. This is a safe country. They go to Costa Rica, super safe country. And then they continue north. Guatemala, also a safe country. Now you'll hear some people cross their eyes right so you just said guatemala is a safe country that's what i said united states is that a safe country or not if you go to downtown los angeles skid row it's not a safe country if you go to downtown atlanta it's not a safe country but there are a lot of safe places in places like guatemala mexico is a safe country obviously there are drug wars going on in some places it's highly dangerous but it's not like the entire country is burning down it's just completely untrue there are places in the united states that i don't want to go it's very very dangerous right especially being a white man now i could go over to i could go over to another

country and say well of course due to my race, I'm being persecuted in the United States. And that is absolutely truthful. We know that. We know that that Caucasians are now being persecuted in the United States by our government, by our own rules. We should be able to go to Europe right now and claim asylum. Right. We should be able to go to Germany or someplace and say, hey, you know, they're throwing people in jail for being white. And that's absolutely the truth. Right. Or I can't go to certain places in the United States, like downtown Atlanta, because it's dangerous to be there and be white, right? It's the truth. But this is a one-way valve to let the world come into the United States to replace Americans with the new

population and do exactly what Stalin did, do what Mao did, do what Pol Pot and so many others did in the past, weaponized migration. And like, for instance, now they're in the Netherlands, not just Netherlands, but let's talk about Netherlands. They're prepping people, mentally preparing people that you're going to have to take migrants into your homes, right? They haven't done it yet, but there's been a law on the books in Netherlands since World War II that you may have to take people into your homes, right? They haven't done it yet, but there's been a law on the books in Netherlands since World War II

that you may have to take people into your homes, right? No problem if it's a war, but right now the Netherlands is being flooded. All of Europe is being flooded with people from all over Africa and Asia and the world. And now what? Like there's Afghans all over the place. There's people,

I actually get along very well with Afghans, but I don't want 10 million Afghans in the United place. There's people, I actually get along very well with Afghans, but I don't want 10 million Afghans in the United States. You know what I'm saying? And I, even though I helped some get to the United States, but I mean, but the point is, is, is, is, is the point is, is that, uh, that let me give you an example. And, and, and, and Netherlands a few years ago, they pushed to pass a lot of protect wolves wolves like big bad wolves right one got killed near my hotel when i was just over there got hit by a car big wolf on the highway right in netherlands look up in the news wolf killed on the highway that was right next near my hotel right so why did they pass this law to protect wolves in netherlands

when there were no wolves in netherlands and people like that's a stupid law why are the crazy people passing a lot of protect wolves and then that the law was passed and now there's wolves everywhere and they're killing sheep they're killing cattle they're killing horses and and and you talk with the farmers and they're like this is to run they're like the queen is more protected than the wolves i mean the wolves are more protected than the queen of netherlands right i mean that the wolves are highly protected right and so they're using and now you'll see in the news like in german media there was a german woman almost got eaten about six weeks ago or so when i was there she said she had turbo on her electric bike and

these three wolves almost got her but her bike just barely outran them she said they almost got her, but her bike just barely outran them. She said they almost got her. It's in the news, right? Talk about range anxiety. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, we're going to end up watching this thing. You know, and let me tell you this one last thing, because I'll take your whole day. I mean, now that we've got a signal that works, now you can't turn me off.

That was great news what they do is they they they the green or you know the west the world economic forum co-sanguinated again with ccp when the wolves kill the cattle and the sheep and whatnot you'll see in the news and like for instance in german news they're blaming the farmers they're like well the wolves are you know they this is their their you know traditional hunting spots and that's why they're blaming the farmers they're like well the wolves are you know they this is their their you know traditional hunting spots and that's why they're killing well the wolves have been introduced as part of the plan you know you look at some of these places where there's wolves in netherlands that was under the sea these are called polders in netherlands polders with a p

p-o-u-l-d-e-r is a folder, right? Those are those areas that they drain. Yeah. And you can farm on them. So, like, this one dairy farmer, I'm at his farm. He's like, this used to be, I forgot, like, three meters under the sea or something like that, or two meters. I don't recall. But he's like, basically, it was all the sea, right? And now they got wolves there. And I'm like, he's like, do you think this was, you know, ancestral hunting ground for the wolves? Only if they were, like, sea wolves.

Yeah, sea wolves. Hunting seahorses. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's's like you know it's like this is this is not but but they're protected even on that what they you know they drain the sea and made these incredible farms and now the wolves are protected there that's what's going on you know when you when you tell this story and you said you you collect these ids and you give them to congressmen and you know a bag full of these things and you try to tell them what's going on. I guess I know what they're going to say.

But, you know, what kind of reception have you gotten? Have you gotten anybody that is receptive to this or they say, well, there's nothing we can do about it? What do they say? Yeah. Congressman Tom Tiffany came down and sat at this table we're talking at, actually. I think you actually come to think of it. I had Tom Tiffany and Burgess Owens. He's a congressman, Congressman Tom Tiffany from Wisconsin and Burgess Owens from Utah. They literally sat at the table that I've got my device on doing, talking with you. And,

and so, so I took them deep into the jungle. I can't believe they actually went. And I mean, that was very courageous of them. And now they know. So you'll see Tom Tiffany. I don't know why Burgess doesn't talk about it as much. Burgess is always talking about other things, but he's very important. He does really hard and important work, but he doesn't out on the border. In fact, he wants to be here now. He messaged me last night asking for videos of the things that's going on. And so, I mean, and there's other congressmen that want to come down, but they're always getting dragged. Actually, I just got invited to go on 19th of April. RFK's people have been reaching out to me. He's going to announce that they are that he's running for president in Boston on April 19th. I don't think I'm going to make it. I'm going to be out in the jungle. But he's very anti-death jab. I read his book, The Real Anthony Fauci,

but I've been asking very pointed questions. So what is his position on this great replacement? I know that he's taken on the, you know, sees the bigger picture of what the intelligence communities are doing and how they've worked. The best part of his book is the end where he's talking about the germ games and the involvement of the intelligence agencies and how this was a partnership with the globalists in terms of taking this. So what is his position or does he have one yet in terms of what is going on with immigration, the great replacement? I just asked him again this morning because I said, listen,

I've read the book, The Real Anthony Gacci. I fully support him on going after Big Pharma and these death jabs, right? I'm with you, no problem. But there's a few other things I want to hear about. I want to know about what you think about this invasion. I want to know about your position on China. I want to know about, are you going to get us into ridiculous wars like Ukraine?

There's one thing I liked about Trump. He did not get us into any wars. He did stand up on our board. He did stand up to China. He did stand up on a lot of things like that that are important to me. But then he's a jab pusher. It's like you can't make up the stuff. But now, if RFK is not going to stand up for the border, if he's not going to stand up to China, I don't know what his position is.

I keep asking because they message me every day and I keep saying, get clarification from him right on what he's going to do about this invasion. And and also abortion. These other things are important to me. You know, if he's not going to stand up against mass murder, he is standing up against the Japs. I really like it. He's super courageous. And the guy is smart. RFK is super smart. So I'm not a journalist. I always say that all day long. People say, you're a journalist. I'm not a journalist. Stop saying it. I know there's like a thousand newspaper articles that say it. New York Times calls me a journalist. Weirdly, New York Times wrote me a journalist. That's one of the, weirdly, New York Times wrote one of the most accurate stories about me ever. And they know I'm like their blood enemy. It's

like, no, but anyway, you can't make up that stuff. I'm like, how did you guys make me look so good when you know I hate you? You know, it's like, anyway. Well, a real journalist is not somebody that... They did call me a journalist. Well, a real journalist is not somebody who's pushing a narrative, right? That's what I think it means in your mind. But a journalist would be somebody who records what they see and honestly gives that to people. So in that regard, I would say that you are what historically you say you are classical journalist before they started becoming mockingbird propaganda pieces for the CIA. But but I might but I might like Lara Logan told me yesterday, she she goes i'm not going to throw in with anybody because we privately chat and i get it because she's an actual journalist but with me i see what's going on and you know you don't have those old soldiers

uh when i was young and the old soldiers got very political you know what i mean and often they would say they weren't political when they were younger i was the same way i was a soldier and then i spent years and more as a as a writer and a researcher not as a soldier uh when i was a green beret i didn't go to war but i did huge amounts of combat after that you become more and more political when you see the clowns that are running these things you know in all these countries i go to whether it's japan or netherlands or united states or thailand one of the things i found is a lot of the people running the country are perpetually out at drinking and drunk parties you know what i'm saying like i don't drink alcohol i don't do drugs i don't smoke i drink coffee maybe a little

too much but i mean that's it right and so it stands out to me when i'm out with politicians all the time that are drinking all the time i'm'm like, who's making up these decisions? I mean, a lot of the things that are going on look like they're done by Hunter Biden. I mean, you know, it's just like, or, you know, like Jerome McChrystal over in Afghanistan when he was leading the war over there and leading it to destruction. You know, I started calling them drunken monkeys and people are like, well, you can't say that you're a journalist. I'm like, I'm not a journalist. And he's running a war like a monkey. I mean, it's like monkeys in the cockpit. I mean, who is running this thing?

I mean, you could be a 25-year-old with not much experience, but somebody who's got your head screwed on straight and do a better job at running the war. And I'm not exaggerating. There are some high-level thinkers at that age. Well, there was others that are basically selected for. Go ahead, sir. That's right., well, there was others that are running a war against us elected for go ahead, sir. That's right. I was just going to say they're running a war against us. When they had us all locked down, you had Matt Hancock and these other people laughing

about the fact that we're locked down, having their private parties. And this is happening in every country. You know, it had many cases of that in the United States, but, you know, just mocking and laughing what they're doing to us. They knew exactly what they were doing. And there were a bunch of drunken monkeys and they were at war with us. And so, yeah, eventually I think everybody, as you get older, you realize, well, I may not be interested in politics. I didn't like, you know, the student council elections. I avoided that like the plague, but you know, you have to understand that

politics is interested in you, and you have to know where the threats are. And I think what you've identified is a very amazing threat. We've gone over about a half hour over the end of our program here because I really wanted to talk to you. And I'd like to get you back on again because I want to talk about prepping, and I want to talk about some of the other things that you've seen. Panama is very important. I have a very good friend who has a house down there. He's described many of the same things you were just talking about, the massive numbers of people that are going through there.

I think you said about 1,200 a day. So the massive numbers of people that are going through there, but they're being shepherded through by these NGOs through that area. It is a plan. It is carefully controlled and constructed. This is not some kind of an organic thing. This is deliberately planned by the globalist. Great reporting. Thank you so much for joining us, Michael.

I really do appreciate it. Tell people where they can find your stuff. Oh, I'm on locals.com, locals, and I'm on Twitter every day. Michael underscore Jan. My last name is Jan. Yankee Oscar November. Y-O-N. Not young.

Jan. Y-O-N. But Young, Jan, Y-O-N. But, you know, we might be able to go on tomorrow, but you can see how the signal is kind of hit and miss here. But if we have signal, we can come on anytime. Well, we'll try to do that, and maybe we'll try to get you on a little bit earlier in the program instead of the last hour. That way, if it takes you a while to get the signal through for that particular day, we can get you on.

But we'll set that up. Thank you for having me on. There's a lot of other things I'd like to talk to you about. And I know that you're heavily into prepping because Jack Lawson said, you know, get this guy on. He's really trying to encourage people to do their own prepping. You know,

it's not just like, well, yeah, I'd like to learn how to do stuff. No, you're very concerned about what you see happening. And it's very important for people to understand the urgency of learning how to prep.

That's one of the reasons why I like to tell people about Jack's book, civil defense manual.com. That's a great resource. It's there. So we'll get you back on. Thank you so much, Michael. Yon Y O N.

You can find him on Twitter at Michael underscore. Thank you so much, Michael. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Thanks for having me on. Thank you.

It's worth going over time. Very excited to talk to you and we'll get you back on again, folks. Thank you so much for having me on. Thank you. It's worth going over time. Very excited to talk to you, and we'll get you back on again. Folks, thank you so much for joining us today, and I hope you enjoy the overtime broadcast. That's it for today's broadcast. Thank you. ¶¶ In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. You're listening to The David Knight Show. Welcome back and joining us now is Dr. Mark Sherwood. I said earlier, a gubernatorial candidate. That was in Oklahoma in 2022.

He's not a candidate for office right now, but he has had a tremendous amount of experience in a lot of different areas. Born in Oklahoma, and he is a former Oklahoma state and regional bodybuilding champion, an ex professional baseball player, 24 year retired veteran of the Tulsa police department. We logged a decade of service on the SWAT team. And after looking at healthy ingredients, uh, he and his wife, both of them, doctors launched a response to the food shortage crisis. We've been talking about how they're trying to engineer that as well.

And came up with a performance food, kingdom fuel, shelf stable for two years, covers nutritional requirements and all the rest of the stuff. But we also want to talk to him about school shootings because he's got a three-point safety plan about that based on his experience in law enforcement with a SWAT team and things like that, and also understanding what the problems are in the schools that have led us to this point. So joining us now is Dr. Mark Sherwood. Thank you so much for joining us, sir.

Hey, David. Thanks for having me. Honored to be with you today. Thank you. Let's talk a little bit about, let's start first with the school stuff. We've seen a lot of reaction here. I'm in Tennessee, so we've watched what's happened in the wake of this. And of course, it has been now about three weeks or something,

and there's a whole bunch of different manifestos from this person who shot the place up. We are not allowed to know what was going through their mind. Instead, they want to focus on the gun, and that's pretty much the sole exclusion of it. So the governor here has nodded towards doing some more gun restrictions on ordinary citizens. They also have a program for making all schools more secure, bulletproof glass on the first floor and, you know, securitizing

the entrances to them. What do you think really needs to be done and what are the true problems? Well, I certainly think that it's a people problem. It's a heart problem. It's not really a gun problem. I mean, look back historically, you know, the first murder occurred with Iraq and the greatest mass murders in the history of our great country have been with fertilizer and airplanes so it's a unique process that we gotta think about we can't legislate evil hatred of murder out of mankind that's impossible and

that's what they're trying to do um having said that previous career you know i was trained in uh response to school shootings uh this is way back when, you know, go back to Columbine, Colorado, and the one in Arkansas, when they kind of began, and it was really inward anger turned outward to homicidal actions. And so it started a trend, if you will, and we have seen that trend continue. And really, when you look at it, you know, putting bulletproof glass up at schools is fine by me. I think that's wisdom. Why not? Good idea. But we've got to do more than that. You know, we have security at airports, you know, just as an example. Kids don't think twice about seeing that because it's normal part of life right now. And I don't like us living in a violent, increasing society, David, at but we've we've got to do something

uh different and i don't believe that taking guns away is is going to solve the problem i think that fortifying our schools uh and really creating this uh barrier for these people that are mentally ill so that they can at least pause for a moment and they they will. They'll pause if they get any resistance. We don't need to create more soft targets. That's right. That's right. And that's what they've done for the longest time with the schools. But you go back to the Columbine thing.

And the narrative that came out of that, even in Christian circles, I remember, was, you know, look at the bullying that's going on with these people. And that was a part of it. But now the bullying has become an excuse for gender manipulation and and grooming of kids at a very young age they don't seem to be able to get to the problem and then the other leg of this is i talked to um a lady earlier this week as a volunteer organization that collects uh ssri stories uh and um these are antidepressants that have tremendous blowback.

I'm sure you're familiar with it. And so we started mass medicating. We started turning the schools into kind of a police state, fortifying them and everything, which, of course, you need to do to address the imminent problem, but you've got to get to the foundation of it, don't you? And this mass medication, I think, is responsible for making it even worse along with what is actually being taught to the kids in school and how they see themselves, I think.

Well, the root cause of mental illness needs to be addressed. And just understand, and people need to know this, that we, I don't believe, you know, that God made us with antidepressant deficiencies. And you look at statistics right now and you see that depending on some databases, one in four Americans are on some sort of antidepressant. Not okay. We have over-prescribed, over-diagnosed, and over-analyzed this to a point of ad nauseum. And it's almost foolishness, David, because like when you look at mental illness as a whole, I do believe that some people are unfortunately born with some sort of genetic mutation, chemical production deficiencies that can happen, but not the norm because we do genetics and we do genetics that really center around the mind of the neurotransmitters. So when you talk

about these SSRIs, these selective serotonin response inhibitors, what they do is serotonin is a neurotransmitter that is produced mainly, and this is important, in the gut. So that tells you there's a gut-brain connection here. So the more poor our nutrition has became, leading to a lack of available essential amino acids, fatty acids, vitamins and minerals, we inherently have a weakening of both our immune system and our neurological production of these neuron systems. And what happens over time is you get these populations of people that are just deficient in the very basic things that are

needed to create optimal life functionality. And when that happens, you get things like depression that's diagnosed. And frankly, you know, and just a broad brushstroke here, when we took God out of school, medicine, and government, and even some churches. You know, we have a problem. And what you have left over is a lack of an appreciation for the divine creation that we are. And we lose track of that. And then medicine becomes the savior, which it's never intended to be the savior. That's right. Yeah, we go back and we look at even things like Alzheimer's.

And you talk about the connection to food and nutrition. And, of course, it has to come through the gut. That's a big part. We go back and we look at even things like Alzheimer's and you're talking about the connection to food and nutrition. And of course it has to come through the gut. That's a big part of it as well. But even something like Alzheimer's, we've had some anecdotal evidence of some miraculous turnarounds in people's condition just by making sure they get the right kind of oils and things like uh, that, that, uh, we don't get enough of, or we get onto a low fat diet or something like that. And so, um, there is a tremendous truth to the fact that a lot of this stuff is the Greeks said, let food be your medicine. Uh, they had the wisdom to understand how much nutrition and food help, but of course

that's all been pushed out. And the current medical model that is driven by the pharmaceutical industry because they want to give you a pill. And if you're at school and you are fidgeting in your seat because, uh, you know, you're the problem. So we're going to give you a pill to get you to calm down. So now we got everybody on Ritalin. We got them on Adderall and all the rest of these things, because, you know, that, that

is, um, advantageous to, to the school. They never did that when I was in school, but it makes it easier for them. They don't have to discipline the kids. So just give them a pill and you can kind of zone them out. And they don't really care what happens to us. We're just there to be managed throughout this whole system. And that's the key thing, denying the humanity of people, I think, as you just pointed out.

So fortifying the schools, taking a look at what they're doing. I think it was a three-point plan. Did I miss the third point there? What else would you do? Yeah, I think just to really go one, two, three, we first of all want to set up a heavily surveilled one-way-in entrance. Obviously, you'll have more than one way out that can be activated in emergencies, but one way in heavily surveilled is important. Number two, you got to have a visible deterrent, like visible armed security. And that can be somebody staying there in a uniform, but it could be as innocuous as having a police car sitting out there out front, just to give the visual deterrent and to make the person pause.

And number three, you've got to have training inside the schools and allow the discussion at least and allow perhaps the permission at least for some people to carry firearms inside the premises with a sign out there that says, beware, some persons inside this building may be armed. And that one, two, three approach is going to make even a mental person stop, think, analyze, and pause. This is not just about saving the lives of the people inside the building. Let's think about this. This is talking about saving the lives of the person that is mentally off right now. Yeah. And if you make them pause, man, that can give you potential for being a remedy and a savior here. That's right.

Yeah. One of the stories from SSRI net stories that SSR stories.net that I had covered years ago was a kid who was changed medication in some way. I mean, if you just change it a little bit, you up it or you decrease it or it's causing other issues. So you just stop it. Oh, you get a withdrawal symptom that causes some very strange things.

And that's typically what ticker triggers these things. But there's a kid who went to school. He had a rifle and he's pointing it at, he gets into the class. He points to the class. He points it at himself, points to the class back and forth. Finally,

they got it away from him. Nobody was hurt. He had no recollection of that whatsoever. And so we have to do something. We have to understand what these causes are, but you're right. As I've said many times about these shootings, that first of all, besides the time in terms of getting somebody there, we call people who rush into a building that are being shot at, we call them heroes, and we saw that in Tennessee. We didn't see it in Uvalde, Texas, of course. But, you know, if you're going to run in there

and risk your life to save other people, that's an action of heroism. But if you have a gun and you know how to use it and there's somebody there that is coming after you, that's self-defense. And it's a lot easier to get somebody that can defend themselves than it is to get somebody who's going to be a hero and defend other people besides the fact of the time where

they're already on site. And they would act, because they're already in the room, I think they would act to defend the other people who are there. But the real issue, I think, is what is happening to the kids. And we've got to somehow figure out how we're going to stop the schools from being a manufacturing facility for monsters, because that's what's really happening in the schools, isn't it? Yeah.

And it's, it's super sad, isn't it? You know, cause we've all seen the regression of, um, behaviors of children, now adults. We saw generation upon generation that, uh, now has lost the ability or the responsibility, I might perhaps better say, of self-care, self-discipline and self-governance. You know, those things right there. You mentioned heroes. You know, our heroes are the founding fathers that gave the very Second Amendment right. That's pretty cool to think about that.

That's right. That's pretty cool to think about that. That's right. Because they gave us that right so we could maintain the ability to have free speech and free dialogue and free discussion like we're having today. But children these days, they are under attack. You know, they really are. And we need to understand that it's not just under attack from a physical standpoint. Oh, no, it's emotional and it's spiritual as well. And a lot of that is our fault because we have allowed excuse-laden behavior to become the paramount reason on why we can't behave. And that's not okay. We've lowered the bar of excellence so bad, even across the bar of health, even with the crisis of obesity, the crisis of depression, you know, everybody's medicated, everybody's over fat, and that's not okay. The excellence needs to come back, and we need to get more people involved in this area. I mean, you're talking about getting

churches, community leaders, schools, you know, police departments, all involved together into discussion to come up with the best game plan for those areas from a local and state level. And therein, David, lies the answers. That's right. Yeah, if we don't have a target to shoot for, that's why I talk so many times, we have to understand what the problems are. But, you know, what I see that has changed about America is that we don't have models of things that we want to aspire to.

We don't aspire to being an engineer. I was just covering a story coming out of the UK. They were talking about in 2019 how they were going to shut down food, shut down travel, shut down construction. They said, do we need to train anybody to be an aerospace engineer? No, we don't. We don't want to have airplanes. So let's not train anybody in that.

So they're going to take everybody down to the least common denominator and um and and portray things portray excellence as being racist or something that you don't want they have given us a you know they've taken away everything that is good and called it evil and vice versa and we have to recapture that ability to say we want to aspire to this even as you point out the founding fathers these are people who were worthy of um uh emulation and praise because they had power and they didn't seek to increase that power or to monopolize that power they did just the opposite they said here we don't this is a dangerous thing we want to make sure that nobody is going to come along to to hoard all of this stuff and yet that's not what we have ruling us today we have people who want to have centralized control of everything monopoly

of everything the antithesis of the founding fathers and so it begins with that and it goes to everything else they've turned everything upside down i think we've got to have a great model to to look for don't you uh and that's the key thing that we've got to put that we got to recover that and say these are our heroes this is where we want to go as a society upward and so forth. And that's what's missing. I think there's no vision. The idea of the founding fathers was self-government, wasn't it? You know, it's like the people are the governors of the government. That's the way it should be. And we've got it so turned upside down. And my concern is today that even as we speak, we know there's these problems that we just talked about. We know there's

some viable common sense solutions. But even on the conservative side, David, we're still pushing and asking a federal politician to bring us to the rescue and that is a tragic mistake because what we're doing in that is directly and and i say the word in directly uh intentionally because we're directly empowering them to do the very thing that we don't need to do which is give them more power that's right it's got to get back to the uh the person you know i'll use a line facetiously from the great um philosopher of life michael jackson who who talked about you know, I'll use a line facetiously from the great philosopher of life, Michael Jackson, who talked about, you know, if you want to make a change, you start with the man or woman in the mirror. And that's where it's got to change. You know, I appreciate, you know, what medicine and government and church, whatever they've got, you know, to offer for us.

I'm using church in quotes there. You get it. I appreciate that. But I need to live my life in a way that I don't need them and I'm not dependent upon them for my very existence. That's right. And parents got to model that. Fathers need to model that. Leaders need to model that.

And it's a selfless way to live as opposed to selfish. And the battle going on right now is a battle for the oldest battle in time. It's kind of the love of money, fame, power versus the humility of self-sacrifice. That's right. Yeah, you know, you're right about that. And some of the things that really disturbs me because we have nowrifice. That's right. Yeah. You know, it is, uh, you're, you're right about that. And some of the things that really disturbs me because we have now, uh, both the left and the right, and I'm not talking about just the political parties, but it's the people, the grassroots, all of them are looking for the dictator that's going to give them what they want. And so that's

why it's really polarizing and why everybody is fighting so much over who's going to be present. Even when I criticize the policies of any of these individuals, I always get this, well, then who do you want to be president? And it's like, you think that the president is going to solve all the problems for you? That's the problem. That's the problem right there. We've met the enemy and they is us, as Pogo would say, because we want to have a dictator who's going to give us everything that we want.

Let's talk before we get away from this school stuff again. Let's talk about the safety training for teachers as you support, as I support. But a lot of teachers don't want this. I look at this and that's one indication of what has happened to these institutions. There's been a long march to these institutions by the Marxists and the progressives. And so now most of the people in these institutions, they don't want to have this. Talk a little bit about the pushback that you've seen from teachers against this idea that they should even think about protecting themselves or kids. Well, there are a few things to consider.

I mean, teachers, school workers, you can't really understand or want what you don't understand. So perhaps there needs to be some education there. But we talk about school, the indoctrination that's happening with our kids. Let us not forget the indoctrination that's happening from the teachers within these higher education facilities. I mean, we're talking about a push for diversity, equity, inclusion, the DEI principles, you know, we're talking about a thought process that they come out of school and, you know, teachers are designed to teach young men and women how to become productive adults in this wonderful country. And that's it. They're not designed to give them a moral code.

They're designed to give them an excellence bar, like you said, about these knowledge, skills, and ability to be good adults. And teachers have been indoctrinated with that too. So, you know, I go back again to if you have school boards that are controlled by parents, right? Parents do the hiring, etc. Parents do the representation of their schools, and the school board needs to get on board with the staff and at least have open dialogue. If some of the staff doesn't want to do that, fine. Understand it and understand the rules and parameters around the people that do and not everybody's going to agree in america that's the beauty of america is it yeah you know

we can have a discussion like that not everybody has to carry a gun you can um and we've got to get back to just sort of this common ground of of discussion without wanting to literally chop each other's heads off because i hear you when you make a critical statement, which can be used in one hand to promote good introspective thought and bring correction. No, no, we dig our heels in and we don't want that anymore. And in my life, I kind of like hearing it, but I appreciate it because it's allowed me to look at myself with a critical eye and go, well, you know what, maybe I need to open my eyes in some areas. So I think people are capable if you give them an opportunity.

That's right. Yeah. We need to distinguish between people are just going to be haters. Uh, you know, just want to criticize you. And as the Bible says, faithful are the wounds of a friend. You know, if this is constructive criticism, you need to listen to it. I mean, if this is just somebody just, uh, you know, out there trying to tear people down, that's a very different thing. And you're right.

It is. They can't want something that they don't know. And we really have lost that gun culture aspect of it. And it's one of the things that you start seeing happening as we want to move into the prohibition of cars and private transportation. They're gradually pushing people away from it economically and in other areas because they know that if this isn't a common thing, that's a part of people's life, they won't understand how it's advantageous. And they were able to do that with guns,

weren't they? Yes, they were. And the more and more and more we, we take individual decision-making out of our lives, the more those decisions are going to be transferred to these monarchical, world-dominant, you know, power-hungry people that are not leaders at all. They're dictators. It's a tyrannical mindset. And anybody can fall into that. You

know, I can fall into that. You can fall into that. We've got to be very cautious of that. But at the same time we must not as citizens of this great country and this great land give up our ability to critically think and make critical decisions for our own lives the way we prefer to live them yeah i agree yeah i've said for the longest time you know if we don't have um freedom of education we're not going to have free critical thinking we're not going to have freedom education, we're not going to have free critical thinking. We're not going to have freedom of religion. We're not going to have any of that kind of stuff. And I know that back in the 19th century had people like R.L. Dabney who were saying, look, you can't divorce

morality and education and worldview. You can't divorce that from education. That is the foundation of education. And when you take that out and you change how people have defined morality and things that are good and excellent that we want to have, when you change that and you make those things targets of derision and you want to destroy them, that's how we get to the place where we are. But that is a particular worldview. That is, if you will, a uh that uh is is being taught and so if you don't have the right values you're certainly not going to get to that um you're not

going to get to that excellence let's talk a little bit though about the uh about the nutritional aspects of this because i know that you're focused on this uh mental health issues that are secondary to nutrition uh i can see that you are still super fit. Uh, when you're, when you're doing this, tell us a little bit about what you would suggest in terms of changing the way society is oriented, changing our food, because they don't want us to have any meat or dairy, uh, as well. So, uh, tell us a little bit how we're going to, uh, whether this, uh, when we've got people who want us eating bugs. Well, I go back and look at, you know, President John F. Kennedy before he was assassinated.

He was big on fitness in schools, you know. That's right. And he was talking about, you know, physically fit people are better producers within society because they've learned how to master one of the greatest things that we struggle with, which is control of appetite and what we do with our physical bodies and how we speak and how we conduct ourselves. When you look at lifestyle, it is no argument standpoint that our health has rapidly declined over the last 50 years. It's declined in a coinciding time with the government getting involved in the food supply. Remember the food pyramid and all that mess where they

talk about now fat's bad and cholesterol causes heart disease. That is a myth that has been disproven and to eat all these genetically modified, now altered soy, corn, and wheat products that are, you know, and at that point in time, you had this rapid declination of the health of America. You had depression go up, medication uses go up, GI function or dysfunction go up, etc., autoimmune conditions, Alzheimer's, you mentioned earlier, went up, heart disease went up, type 2 diabetes now is out of control. One in three children by the time they're 40 are predicted to be on medication. One in two Americans now are insulin resistant and probably don't know it. And the idea behind this is that with this gut-brain axis that we talked about just a moment ago,

serotonin and dopamine are two key neurotransmitters that we have to have to at least be content, right, to build value. And if you don't have those and just a simple rule of thumb, if serotonin is bottomed out, you don't produce that, you don't have it, you're going to be depressed and low. If dopamine is low, you're going to be having a hard time staying focused. Again, a la ADHD, ADD. When both are low, you have no value. You have nothing that gives you hope anymore. And you're looking for anything, any action, any deed that can give you that last hurrah. And hence, you have this inward anger, inward anxiety turned outward into homicidal activity. And so the lifestyle piece, David, is critical to getting.

And we have, my wife and I and our clinic and staff have pushed hard for family wellness. I would like to see even physical fitness come back in the schools. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. And it's amazing. You know, I think back, it's been 50 years since I was in high school, but, uh, you know, you go back and you look at pictures of the 1970s, look at people at the beach, look at classmates. And it's amazing to me to see how obese everyone has become because of this. And I know that a lot of this is the nutrition, but you know, a lot of it is an activity, but it's the combination of all that stuff. And it is truly amazing.

The physical transformation that has happened in the last 50 years, it's astounding. And so we know what is happening. They're really attacking us, mind, body, and spirit, aren't they? And it's a calculated thing. I think, uh, it, you know, it, it just, uh, whether it's negligence or whether it's a calculated thing i think uh it you know it just uh whether it's negligence or whether it's calculated we we know what is happening and um and it's uh it's something that we're gonna have to do something about it as a society or we're done aren't we we are and uh someone coined the term fifth generation of warfare and that's exactly what it is it's it's

unique because it attacks the mind through this you know propaganda through cell phones etc you know uh through television you've got big pharma advertising through our airways you know you've got big pharma lobbying the government controlling the politicians to do their bidding you know you've got the this the the border crisis you know the the opioid epidemic the fentanyl epidemic now attacking kids you've got the border crisis, you know, the opioid epidemic, the fentanyl epidemic now attacking kids. You've got economy being transferred to a communist society. You've got food that's being outsourced and brought into our country under the label of American made. But it's not American made. It was just processed here.

And so you've got all this stuff going on that has attacked us. And the long and short of it is if you get a population distracted by sickness, illness, and dependent upon medication, you get them where they can't think anymore. And to the point earlier, you get ultimate control of them. And we're seeing the lifespan for the last couple of years decline for the first time in decades. But David, what you're seeing to expand is this thing called six span within the lifespan. It's a time at which we're very sick and beat down and on multiple medications. And that is just simply unnecessary for mankind. They need to be shown a different way. And I can't make anybody choose either salad over a bag of French fries. That's not the point because that's controlling. But they ought to

be told the difference. They ought to be given the opportunity to make a bad decision and a good decision. And right now, good decisions are held back from us for the sake of profit. And you were talking earlier about how they have radically genetically modified things like soy and corn and all the rest of the stuff. They're now going to the next stage of this. They're now talking about how we can feed you the vaccines. We can grow the mRNA inside inside the stuff we can inject the cattle and the beef and that type of thing um you've got a product called kingdom fuel and so i'm sure that you're looking at this how are you going to um you know people are scrambling around

saying you know how are we going to make sure that our food supply is clean in this new attack on it because it's hard enough to get stuff that is going to be organic truly organic uh and now there's a whole nother level of contaminant that they're talking about putting in both meat and vegetables so what do you do yeah we looked at that we looked at that from a broad broad variety of angles and this is we started working on that formula probably a year and a half to two years ago and sourcing materials was the most challenging thing I'd undertaken in several years including an election right so you know the materials in this we have an organic pea protein which has about 20 grams in the full serve which is pretty good we have organic reds. So the phytonutrients from the greens and

red plants, fruits and vegetables. Then we have soluble and insoluble fiber, which helps with satiety or feeling of fullness. And then we also have an added spectrum of vitamins and minerals. So this is representative of something you could live off of. We've had people do this. I didn't ask them to, but we've had people do it for a month before, you know, just to see if they could do it. And they did. And they improved their health in all sorts of different aspects, lost excess fat, maintained and even gaining muscle tissue. The unique thing about this was we looked at it. We hear people's excuse all the time. Well, it's too expensive to eat healthy. That's nonsense. The average lunch

in America is about between $15 and $18, depending on what you get. And I'm talking Midwest prices. Kingdom Fuel, if you do the full serving of three scoops, is $5 per meal. Most that like ladies typically do two scoops and that's enough because it's so filling and you can mix things with it if you want to like you could mix extra berries or nuts or seeds if you blend them and avocado nut butters etc you can have all kinds of stuff kids love it parents love it it's cheap it's easy it's a great going out the door type of meal it's great for athletes and we did this with the heart of love. I mean, we made it for ourself and thought, Hey, this is good for the world. So do your shelf life, save some money.

And we've got other stuff coming. We've got something called kingdom candy, which is okay. It's going to be a replacement bar, same kind of concept. And we're coming up with solutions. I get tired of talking about all the problems. I want answers. That's right. And that's the thing, you know,

people who look at this and look at the problems I was talking about earlier, you know, here locally, we've got some people who are saying, I'm really concerned about this because I've got vaccine injured kids. We're not going to go to this next level. So what are we going to do to get some clean meat around here?

You know, so they start putting it together. A lot of times we start with things that are going to help us. And then we say, well, you know, other people want this as well. That's the key part of rebuilding our society from the grassroots up. And a key part of that is going to be food because they want to take away the food that we have. Um, very important to be able to do that.

And of course, you're talking about price. I forget what city it was, but somebody, uh, they had like a Big Mac meal that was like $17. It's like, are you kidding me? Yeah, $70 for poison, right? Yeah, it's got the nutritional aspect of cardboard, except as you point out, it's got some really bad stuff in it. Yeah, and one thing I want people to understand about the genetic modified soy and these estrogenic products is those soy proteins, when they've been modified now, they hit on a estrogen receptor, meaning that they create more estrogen functionality in men and women. So what that does to our males over time,

societally speaking, generationally speaking, it more feminizes them. and so you take away the male seed you take away reproduction you slow the production and population growth and that gives you less people to have to control yeah so you know this is not just a bunch of coincidences and coincidences this is and i'm not a conspiracy theorist i just look at things from a critical eye and i say okay what does that mean good better and different look at the third side play the advocate uh game with it if you will and um we have got to begin to learn to grow some seeds you know in our backyard yes learn to find local farmers support them because they're they're out there all you gotta do is ask spread the word you know get kingdom people have that use that and find a way to create our own system an alternative system

and get away from believing these yo-yos that are trying to be leaders they don't know what they're doing their agendas are way off yeah And we've got to create this alternate, um, societal cultural norm. Once again, that's going to give us life. I agree. Yeah. Especially, you know, from the standpoint of, you know, finding local farmers, I mean, the farmers are not getting paid very well in the system, right? It doesn't serve them very well. The system is getting really wealthy. We saw this with all the egg stuff, you know, the farmers in both the U S and, and the UK were saying, HeyK. were saying, hey, they're not paying us anymore. Your price is going through the roof in the grocery store.

It's that system that's there. So if we cut out the middleman and we go direct to the farmers and we start growing it ourselves, that's going to make a world of difference. But it's great talking to you and to see that you've got some real solutions for health as well as for security. And, uh, thank you so much for what you're doing. Uh, hopefully, uh, uh, you won't, um, I know I've, I've run for office in the past. I know that it's kind of a thankless task. And so thank you for taking that on and, uh, and trying to get out there to people.

And I hope you don't give up on that either. But, yeah, keep pushing on that. And we certainly need people who have your background and your wisdom in this. And you've got a very interesting background. Thank you so much for joining us. Before we go, though, tell people about your website, where they can find Kingdom Fuel. Well, I very much appreciate you having me, David. You've done a great job, and I'm honored to be here. People can go to Sherwood.tvtv and all of our things are there if they want

kingdom fuel and other programs they can work with us remotely if they want to um and we have a lot of great stories so people can go there and that's just a central hub of connection. Great. So it's a kingdom.tv. Is that what you said? Sorry? Sherwood.tv. Sherwood.tv. Dot TV as in television. Yes. Sherwood.tv.

Dr. Mark Sherwood and his wife, Dr. Michelle Sherwood. Thank you so much for joining us, sir. Have a good day. You're welcome. Thanks for having me. The common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing.

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But thank you for joining us, Eric. Always great to talk to you. Oh, thanks for having me on, David. I'm busily packing my bags to get ready to move into one of Trump's freedom cities. I can't believe people fall for that. I don't mean it was actually AJ put that out. Alex Jones put that out to say that, uh, yeah, look, he's fighting the new world order. It's like, he's implementing the new order world order.

You've always talked about agenda 21. That's what it is to a T. I mean, it's just amazing to me, but sometimes I just want to take a, take one of my shoes off and hit myself in the head with it until I'm insensible. That's right. It's crazy. It truly is a satire world that we live in. Speaking of satire worlds, let's begin with this progressive insurance commercial. I'm sure you're familiar with Flow, their spokesperson. And of course, this is a new commercial. I'm not going to play it. A new commercial where the camera crew goes to a guy's house and surprises him and gives him something

because he's a safe driver but also especially because he's not driving too much they're all about that aren't they are they sure are yep they have been pushing we We got to, and again, you know, they have actually a person who sent that to me, uh, says, yeah, my daughter does, does that. And still she can't understand why their insurance is so high because she's

pretty fast and reckless, but, uh, they, they, you know, push that, especially for younger kids,

especially in the UK where they make it so expensive for the kids, even buy car insurance. Yeah. especially in the UK where they make it so expensive for the kids to even buy car insurance. I've read stories about siblings who go in halves on their car insurance and on the car itself, and they have to ration how much they drive because it doesn't just measure how they drive, but how much they drive. It's a new tactic that's coming out there with another form really of toll, if you stop and think about it. Yeah, well, we're not that far behind here.

You know, insurance is already exorbitant for teen drivers, and I get to a certain extent why their rates are higher. They're new, they're inexperienced. Statistically, they tend to be more likely to be involved in an accident. But it does not correlate with the amounts that they're charging people on the order of $2,000, $3,000 a year, which is just preposterous. Yeah, we used to always see that when we were kids. We had higher rates when you were young and you were learning how to drive a car.

And it was justified in my case. I nearly killed myself several times. Yeah, sure. I didn't have an accident, but I mean, you know, some pretty crazy stuff. I know I was in a car with other teenagers and they were driving or I was driving. Well, it's a one-two punch. On the one hand, you've got the insurance costs. And then on the other hand, you've got the cost of the cars themselves. And largely due to the Obama-era cash-for-clunker program, there are virtually no affordable, drivable, decent used cars available

anymore for first-time drivers. You can't go out and find a decent vehicle for $2,000. Maybe you can, but it's extremely difficult. So, you know, at an entry-level price point, to get something that's viable for a 16-year-old kid, you know, you're looking at probably $4,000 or $5,000 or so, and that's quite a hump for most kids that age to get unless their parents help them along. And a lot of people aren't in that position.

I agree. Yeah, we just had, we needed to get a truck, and then my son needed a car and they found an auction site and, uh, they were able to get great deals on these things. I, they got them like less than half of, uh, what the book value was at the auction thing. Of course, you know, you're, you got to take a certain amount of risk, but you always do when you take a, get a used car and they give you a chance to drive the thing for a couple of hours and, and, uh, check it out and you can bring it back within a couple of hours if you find some kind of a major flaw with it. Uh, but, um, yeah, we went, we got this, we got this truck, Eric, that is, um, they were telling me about, I told him, I said, I don't care. We got to get a truck. I don't really care what the thing looks like. Just get it cheap, you know? So they said, well,

we got it, but it's got this headliner. That's, that's like got a cloth and it's got all kinds of lights in it and all the rest of this stuff. And there's got a rhinestone steering wheel and, and, and a big thing of, uh, uh, the whole backseat was taken out so they could put speakers in it. Uh, but it's like, but it's a truck, you know? So whatever, everybody, they only had to bid against people who were online. They said anybody who was there at the auction site that actually saw the truck would not buy it.

The thing is jacked up. That's the other thing too. And the guy said to my wife, he said, I want to see you get in that truck. That's part of the fun of it. That's part of what gives those first cars character. I had a, uh, years and years ago, I bought a 64 Corvair. It was drivable, uh, but it needed a bunch of work. And in the process of going through it, I pulled the back seat out,

and somebody had built a minibar in the back of it back in the hippie days. It still had the decanters in it and everything. That's funny. That's funny. Well, talking about going back to the good old days, you got an article, The Decline and Fall of Automotive Journalism. Yeah. And how it died. And as a matter of fact, you say it died when they were bought up by the drug cartels.

Kudos to Woody Harrelson. Yeah, exactly. He nailed it, didn't he? He did. You know, he did a great mitzvah or service. And even more so in that so far, he has withstood the immense pressure that's been brought to bear on him for daring to utter the unutterable on Saturday Night Live about the drug cartels and the vaccines. And he actually has been a man about it and stood up and just hasn't done the mea culpa tour.

So he's gone up in my estimation by 500%. That's right. Yeah, absolutely. It had to be said. I'm glad he said it, and I'm glad he's not backing down. But, you know, I think about the old automotive journalism. I think of David E. Davis. I loved his stuff. I think it was car and driver that he wrote for. He had a column,

Cogito, Ergo, Zoom. I think, therefore, I speed. I don't know. Yep. Back in those days, car journalists generally were people who liked cars at the least and understood them. And more importantly, too, they were also legit journalists in that they looked into things and reported the truth about them, very much contrary to the practice today. I was appalled by this article I saw that was published by Jalopnik, which is a pretty big site. And, you know, the headline read something like, EVs are now cheaper than the average non-electric car. And I thought, what pipe are these people smoking? So I dug into it a little bit. And they very, very oilily misled people reading the article by conflating the transaction price,

that's the industry term for what people sometimes pay for a car, with what the average price of a car is. In other words, leading people to believe that spending $45,000 on an EV is actually a bargain relative to the almost $50,000 that the average car transacted for last year. And it was a real, you know, just sleazy shuck and jive. And they didn't put that in any context. And they also left out a critical point, which is that when you buy a base EV, you buy the base battery. You know, so you buy the base battery and the thing doesn't go very far. For example,

the low-cost Tesla Model 3 that's about $44,000, as I think it is a 270-something mile range, something like that. If you want the one that goes more than 300 miles, it's something like $55,000. And they just don't mention that. I mean, how many times would you ever go out and buy, when you buy a non-electric car, you don't have to pay extra to get a bigger gas tank, you know, hugely, unless it's a heavy-duty truck. And it's just the fact that they don't say these things or write these things or explain these things to people makes my teeth fall out of my head every time I have to deal with it. I haven't read Jalopnik in a very, very long time, just because they're so biased. I mean, they've got an agenda. It's very clear.

It's as clear as if you're talking to chat LGBT. They've got an agenda that they want to push on you. And again, for the most part, most of them are not car people. And that's really one of the things that you were talking about the first time you saw. I played just before you came on because I know that our guests can't hear the videos or see them. I played back and forth between a diversity hire pick for the Biden administration for the FAA. Doesn't know anything about planes. Doesn't know anything about the agency.

Doesn't know anything about the rules of the agency for planes. Zero zip. I mean, we one question after the other and his confirmation hearing didn't know anything, but that's what you've seen happen to automotive journalism. And you start talking about this going back to the 90s with a lady at USA Today. Tell people the story.

Sure. Well, they hired this woman mainly because she had a nice rack. And she knew nothing about cars and she couldn't write very well. Is that a gun rack? You know, the kind of rack that women tend to have. And then there was the other example of Warren Brown over at the Washington Post, who I knew personally, and Warren Brown was a nice guy and a good business writer, but they tapped him to be their car reviewer.

And Warren didn't even know how to drive a car with a manual transmission at the time that he was tapped to be their car reviewer. They dropped off a Porsche 911 for him to drive, and he couldn't drive it. The Porsche people had to show him how to drive it because he didn't know how to drive a stick. And it kind of begs the question, why would you put people in that position? Well, the reason, the answer is, of course, because Warren happened to be a black guy. And, of course, the woman over at USA Today happened to be female. And so there was this push, even then, back in the 90s, to bean count and to assign jobs based on what color your skin is

and what kind of genitalia you were born with, rather than whether you knew something or had any business writing about the topic at hand. I like what you had to say. She had as much business writing about cars as Liberace had writing about dating. Well, women. Yes, exactly. That's a great line. The common man.

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