The David Knight Show - 15Mar24 Spy vs Spy, CIA vs China, FBI vs Gamers — ALL the Internet is a Psyop Battlefield

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

(2:00) Spy vs Spy, CIA vs China, FBI vs Gamers — ALL the internet is a psyop battlefieldMidway through his administration, Trump authorized CIA to launch a social media campaign against ChinaSweet B...aby Detected — FBI goes after "extremist" gamers(16:12) After putting 1,000 armed National Guard and State Troopers in the subway along with TSA style checkpoints — another shooting (20:51) Rapidly escalating "Hate Crime" persecutions and legislation"Burn it down" Marxist revolutionary in Maryland governmentWATCH: Former Parliamentarian going to jail for a year for "hate speech", speaks out.  Is he wrong?  Is it pure political persecution of a rapidly rising party?WATCH Thomas Massie speaks out after the final "TikTok ban" vote(33:44) DEI is spreading like cancer except in ONE American stateWhites banned from attending play2 years in jail for anti-illegal immigration stickersChurch of England hires an officer to "deconstruct whiteness"It FINALLY happens — entire DEI department eliminated at one state university. You won't believe how much it was costing taxpayers per year for DEI at just one of several state universities(52:53) Listener comments, letters, and returned package (without explanation) from 15 months ago! (57:17) POX PARTIES — the Simpsons knew no one was afraid of measles.  Trump didn't? We know why Pharma-funded networks push measles panic.  But what are BigCon conservative sites using measles panic to push? (1:03:56) SCOTUS decision, wrongly decided 119 years ago, has been the foundation of destroying individual liberty and the Constitution.  It is now being challenged (1:16:36) After Trump raved about his jabs on Super Tuesday, then again 2 days later when Biden gave SOTU, "influencers" are working overtime to spin their webs of deceit to cover for him — AND FOR EACH OTHER (1:33:31) John Stewart and his Harvard guest think the Constitution is a problem, because… (1:41:42) Robot + ChatGPT = ???Multiple companies are now combining AI with robotics.  Here's what they've publicly revealedYuval Harari & Stephen Colbert worship AI gods and a "creative" forceOpenAI's CTO doges all question about who they're stealing, I mean, "copying" from(2:02:49) INTERVIEW Navy SEAL Warns: Communism Reborn in AmericaFormer Navy SEAL and Instructor looks at the Ukraine war and asks — is the Ukraine war another attack on our food supply? It is (was) the bread basket of Europe. Drago Dzieran was born and grew up in Poland under Russian communism — where he learned to love liberty and America.  When he escaped to America, he eventually became a Navy SEAL and SEAL instructor.  But Drago is very concerned that the country he loves is turning into the Marxist totalitarianism he escaped.  He tells us why and we discuss his story, told in "The Pledge to America: One Man's Journey from Political Prisoner to US Navy SEAL".Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:01:31 you to the insurance companies, as we point out. But it is more than that. It is a kind of psychological warfare against us. And it is a manipulation of narratives and we see that this is even going into video games very interesting back and forth between some company it was called sweet baby and we're going to talk about that because the fbi is now complaining about how they got a look for extremists on game platforms. People who are trying to push a radical agenda on us. Could they be talking about their own people? Sweet baby. Very strange. We'll be right back. begin with this. So this is a Reuters exclusive that came out last night. And I want to begin with this.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Because you need to understand that this is not simply a biden thing uh biden trump bush obama all these people have been doing this this is a bipartisan thing because the real government is the cia and this is the real purpose of the internet the real purpose especially of social media Keep this in mind as we look at the backdrop of TikTok and then think about the dangerous precedents being set up as they want to just be able to ban entire websites, entire applications, of course. We said that was going to happen. For the longest time, they would play games by demoting certain tweets,
Starting point is 00:03:23 shadow banning certain people, then overtly banning people, kicking us off of websites and everything. Many of you have had that happen to you as well. And then we said, well, of course, they're going to go for websites. That's what this TikTok stuff is. And guess who's bringing it to you, Republicans?
Starting point is 00:03:40 Republicans. It is bipartisan. Democrats are pushing for it as well. But the Republicans are pushing real hard for it. As a matter of fact, Steve Bannon. Oh, Trump, he's he's now not for it. So he got bought off. He's probably right. I agree. You know, and of course, Steve Bannon knows Trump well. He knows he can be bought. We know he was bought. Pharmaceutical industry bought him. He was bought by many different industries, banks, pharmaceutical companies, all right, from the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Now, two years into the Trump administration, this has just come out from Reuters, Trump authorized the CIA to launch a clandestine campaign on Chinese social media aimed at turning public opinion in China against its government, according to U S officials with direct knowledge of a highly classified operation. Now, uh, all of this, throw all this into the mix of the tick tock stuff as well.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Uh, look, social media is being used by every government to manipulate its own citizens. It's being used by every government against other countries. And many of you will say, good, I don't like China. Well, I don't like China either. But the timing is interesting. This is two years into office.
Starting point is 00:04:57 That's kind of a vague term. Is that 2018, 2019? He was sworn in in 2017. And that's right about the time that he started promoting mandates for vaccines. The measles shot at that time, MMR. But it was also about the same time that all of these open purges started. In the 2018 midterm elections, about two years in, began with InfoWars on August the 6th, and then two months later, in October, just before the November election, you had 800 sites that were purged. What did they have in common? Well, a good number of them supported
Starting point is 00:05:40 Trump, but a lot of them, even more of them, did not. And I said at the time, look at what the common denominator is. That might tell you who's doing this. And the 800 sites that were kicked off were sites that were anti-war, that were anti-police surveillance state. And I believe that that was really the motivation and so yes uh there are people inside the cia is not monolithic there are people inside the cia obviously trying to set up trump and publicly doing it part of that as well as a criticism from foreign leaders who went who used his vaccine who marched in lockstep with him into this medical martial law of lockdown
Starting point is 00:06:26 everything they're all doing the same thing at exactly the same time but you know trump he's completely different from these other people and i think that a lot of this stuff even a lot of the cia criticism of him is a game they're running on you folks on not on you but on the people oh yeah he's we're gonna get him we're people. Oh, yeah, we're going to get him. We're going to get him. But, yeah, it's to keep him in line, but also to get his street creds up with the clueless masses who will continue to follow him. A clandestine campaign on Chinese social media aimed at turning public opinion in China against
Starting point is 00:07:01 its government. Well, the CIA would never do that here. They would never interfere in politics one way or the other, right? Of course they do. And the people that we'll talk about, QAnon loves to talk about fifth generation warfare, information, perception, that type of thing. But it's always just, there's nothing new about this. They just have new, more effective tools uh so this had not previously
Starting point is 00:07:27 been reported uh and um so although the u.s officials declined to provide specific details of these operations they said the disparaging disparaging narratives were based in fact despite being secretly released by intelligent uh intelligence operatives under false cover oh wait a minute so they were new they were true yeah that's part of propaganda you know you can have black propaganda you can have white propaganda you can tell the truth about uh and tell the negative truth about someone or some entity you know that's why when you take the stand you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth right if you're selective about the truth you can tell true stuff about people and really take them down that's what satan does with us right he lies to us
Starting point is 00:08:18 about god but he tells it he tells the truth about us doesn't he uh so yeah you can tell the truth about the chinese communists and that's damaging enough we told them we tell the truth about us, doesn't he? So, yeah, you can tell the truth about the Chinese communists and that's damaging enough. We tell the truth about the U.S. government. That's damaging enough for them to want to get rid of us, isn't it? A spokesperson for China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs said news, a CIA initiative shows the U.S. government uses the public
Starting point is 00:08:40 opinion space and, this is a quote, uses the public opinion space and media platforms as weapons to spread false information and to manipulate international public opinion. Duh. You think we don't know that? I mean, that is the whole purpose of the internet and the social media things. Now, Biden has continued this, you see. And that's the thing. It social media things. Now Biden has continued this, you see. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:09:06 It's President Trump. And then continued by Joe. And escalated, right? He continues these programs and he escalates them. Two intelligence historians told Reuters that when the White House grants the CIA a covert action authority through an order known as a presidential finding, it often remains in place across administrations. They ratchet up the power. And every one of these bureaucracies do that. Everything in the federal government does that.
Starting point is 00:09:37 They seize power. This is why it's so important for us to come to terms with what Trump did with the lockdown and these other precedents that he set in 2020 that were so damaging. Because these types of presidential orders, whether you're talking about the CIA or you're talking about the lockdowns, these things remain there. If they steal power from us and we don't take it back, guess what? They keep it and they build on it as Biden did. It's interesting, this person who reported on this from Reuters identifies themselves as a reporter covering the intersection between technology and national security.
Starting point is 00:10:16 That's interesting because for the longest time somebody wanted a bio on me, I identified myself as a reporter covering the intersection between technology and liberty. They do the intersection between technology and national security, national security, by the way, is, is, uh, antithetical to, uh, Liberty to personal Liberty, to the constitution. Everything else always has been.
Starting point is 00:10:35 So let's get to this sweet baby thing that I was talking about. Just, just another example of how they use every platform. And they use schools. They use platform. They use schools. They use television. They use movies. They use the internet. They use social media. They use video games.
Starting point is 00:10:53 It's full spectrum, this psychological warfare against us. And so it's been going on for a while. I didn't cover it because it's kind of off to the side. But it's this company. It's called going on for a while. I didn't cover it because it's kind of off to the side. But it's this company. It's called Sweet Baby. And they have been, just to put it simply, they've been involved in adding a lot of political correctness and DEI.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Now, I don't know if they were involved in the, I can't even remember the name of the game now. What is the one that's got keep your rifle by your side? Travis, do you know that? One of the Far Cry, I think it was Far Cry 5. Yeah, that's right. It's Far Cry 5. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Keep your rifle by your side. I played that one day, you know. It was, it's a great little song. And it's supposed to be the theme song for these Christian nationalists, if we will. It came out like a decade ago or something. But, you know, portraying people as Christian nationalists, kind of going back to the Branch Davidians. And they're clinging to their guns and their Bibles and all that kind of stuff, right? And they did this song, and it's a real catchy little tune.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And everybody is reposting it. And he's got millions of views. And the comments on it are like the British thought that Yankee Doodle was an insult. And it became a very popular tune. Everybody liked it. And that's what this song is. But it's that type of thing, to interject a psychological aspect to it. And this has been done of course with movies
Starting point is 00:12:25 and television for a long time you know getting people accustomed to a predictive programming you know you show this horrible future that they're working to hit us with but don't worry we've got one lone hero who's going to save the day and so people are like oh well that's good boy that was looking really bad until uh john John Connor came out there and took out all those robots. You know, one guy did it. I sure am glad we got President Trump, aren't you? He's our John Connor, isn't he? Yeah, that's what they wanted to tell you.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Both ends of this fable, right? And actually, the bad stuff, the dy dystopian thing that's the real thing but the fable is the fact that there's going to be the trump is a john connor that there's going to be some john connor to save us it's it's crazy uh but anyway they do that all the time and so they do that in the games as well predictive programming manipulating people all the rest of this stuff right and so some of the people started noting that there was one company in particular sweet baby that seemed to be a common thread with a lot of these things pushing a lot of this dei stuff um and so in late february early part of this month
Starting point is 00:13:37 this is the way it's described by uh know your meme because it's become a meme you know the sweet baby sweet baby incorporated detected and and so people since the guy set up uh on steam a group or a page was set up to identify which games had been influenced by this sweet baby company and so they put up sweet baby detected now you you would think if it was a legitimate business right you would think that uh yeah they'd be proud of the fact that we had a we had a part in this big video game we had a big part in that video game i mean it's called credits in the movies right they run these credits and everybody gets really upset if they're not credited with something sweet baby doesn't want to be credited why not see that's the dog that didn't bark
Starting point is 00:14:28 it tells you it's coming from isn't it right they would if you have they're beating their chest like donald trump and you know trumpeting what they're doing but no they don't want you to know and instead what they did was sweet baby incorporated came after the sweet baby incorporated detective detected group. They wanted to get that group shut down. Stop telling people what we're doing. That's how badly they wanted to remain anonymous. How do you spell DEI?
Starting point is 00:15:03 I think it's spelled a CIA,'t it? Isn't that the correct spelling of DEI? Anyway, or FBI, maybe that's it. Maybe you spell DEI, FBI is the correct spelling. The other one is just kind of an encoded twist. So the FBI is getting involved in looking at extremers, extremers, gamers who were extremists. guess we could call that way extremers you're an extremer um the fbi and homeland security isn't it great isn't it great that homeland security is focused on gamers who are critical of the government or don't follow their narratives homeland security is not interested in our border. Homeland Security is interested in gamers. Domestic gamers. There you go.
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Starting point is 00:16:39 including to reach wide audiences to insert their extremist ideas into the mainstream, to radicalize, to recruit, and to mobilize others. I think this is pure projection because that's what they do. The FBI, Homeland Security, CIA use gaming platforms to reach white audiences. And the FBI and CIA and Homeland Security use it to insert their extremist ideas in the mainstream. The FBI, Homeland Security, and CIA use it to radicalize,ist ideas in the mainstream the fbi homeland security and cia use it to radicalize recruit and mobilize others right that's exactly what they do yeah sweet baby i think this is a baby we need to throw out with the bath water completely throw it out now uh the uh as they're militarizing the subway
Starting point is 00:17:25 i said from the very beginning you know what this is about is getting people used to living under martial law it doesn't really do any good um as a matter of fact there's a video up of the fight that happened on the subway and um apparently although you know before the shooting actually happened, the thing was being filmed from the very beginning by somebody who was on the subway. Boy, the subway in New York is like this third-world country. It's amazing. But anyway, it starts, and, you know, and they're fighting,
Starting point is 00:18:01 and it's a black guy and I think a Hispanic guy, and the black guy gets the white guy down he's beating him and stuff like that and then uh some other guy comes along another black guy comes along he had a he was not in a uniform or anything i mean there wasn't anybody and see this is the point they've had several shootings. And so what the governor says is we're going to put a thousand armed people there, 250 state police and 750 national guard. And we showed you the pictures of them in uniform, holding fully automatic weapons.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And they've got the TSA tables, checking people's bags and all the rest of this stuff. And we're going to stop it. We'll show a force. And I said, well, no, what they're doing is they're getting people accustomed to living under martial law just as they got kids
Starting point is 00:18:50 accustomed to school lockdowns and then they locked down the entire country after about 20 or 30 years of training people through schools oh lockdown lockdown you know gonna keep you safe and so with all of these troops a thousand police and you know and troops around there not a single one on this particular train and this thing went on for quite some time and then um you know so they one guy comes and breaks it up and they're still um uh the black guy is bigger than the hispanic guy and he's taunting him and um then he goes to his jacket or something he pulls out his gun somehow he gets the gun he pulls out and you hear him racket right so uh and everybody's like yeah you know get me out of here they can't because
Starting point is 00:19:38 train is moving but they're pressed up to the thing and whoever is videotaping it you know it's showing all the people around them they're screaming get me out of here get me out of here you know and he's trying to get out as well or she and then the door opens and it's a mad rush out and as their mad rush is going out you hear the gunshots evidently um in the time that this person was shooting it and it happened um you know the guy so the the bigger guy the black guys got the gun and he's threatening the smaller hispanic guy and the but there was evidently a struggle and the smaller guy got the gun away from him and shot him in the head this is in brooklyn during rush hour man shot in the head following a heated fist fight on a packed brooklyn subway train according to police in the head following a heated fistfight on a packed Brooklyn subway train,
Starting point is 00:20:26 according to police in the video of the incident. Now, the question is, they've got all these TSA checkpoints. They've got a thousand armed, uniformed people, but they can't put the people on the trains. And they evidently, with these TSA checkpoints, they don't seem to work on the subway, do they? Just like they don't work on the planes or anything else like that. I mean, you know, they fail like 90% of the time when people do that. They do catch some people not trying to hide anything. They just absentmindedly get used to carrying their gun all the time, and they forget when they go to travel.
Starting point is 00:21:00 They're in a hurry, I guess. But the bag checks didn't work. The army of people there didn't work. And, you know, the thing is, they've got gun control, too, don't they? This guy violated gun control laws. You know, it's against the law to have a gun like that in New York. And it's also against the law to take it on the subway. How dare him do that?
Starting point is 00:21:21 Oh, by the way, it's against the law to shoot somebody in the head, too, isn't it? Yeah, you see, they don't care about that kind of stuff. And they don't care about that kind of stuff. And even with a thousand cops and soldiers on the subway, it seems like they're never around when you need them, doesn't it? Because you can't carry them on your back. It's easier to carry a gun, as they say. Carry a gun because it's a lot lighter than carrying a police officer around with me.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Well, meanwhile, you have the radical Marxists are really showing their colors and flying their flags. And I'm not talking about just Justin Trudeau. Yeah, he's shown it big time. Justin Trudeau, chip off the old Castro block, isn't he? Actually, he's looking more even more like a cat a chip off the stalinist block wanting to pre-crime lock up people you might you're the kind of person you're just the kind of person that might say something that somebody would be offended at and certain people certain people groups must not be offended i think we're just going to have to put you in jail for life
Starting point is 00:22:23 that's one of the things they can do. And they can do it pre-crime. So it's to protect people who don't like certain groups of people who don't like certain things being said. Well, this is in the head of College Park, Maryland's racial equity department. This woman aims to eliminate systemic racism in local government. She supports quote black liberation unquote through revolutionary means. And she praises a plan quote, how we will eat and live and grow after we burn it all down. It's not DEI.
Starting point is 00:23:01 It's not woke. It's Marxism. It's just DEI. It's not woke. It's Marxism. It's just that simple. This is old Stalinist types of Marxism, weaponized politically. And as Trudeau is trying to get that law put into Canada, of course, it's already been installed in many European countries, Belgium for example the nationalists I talked about yesterday a sentence to prison for one year over hateful memes it turns out however that they went back seven years to find memes when he was
Starting point is 00:23:40 like in college and he didn't send those memes but the judge said you should have stopped those memes from being sent because in this private group of about 750 people you understand this is purely political right this is a purely political prosecution of persecution. He is now the head. He started a political group, a conservative anti-immigration group, and they want to take him down, and they'll use any excuse. And if you remember, as they were beginning the Internet, beginning all of these social media companies, they also had their total information awareness, life log.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Everybody said, we don't want the government keeping a life log of everybody. Okay, we'll shut it down. The next day, Facebook opens up. Things like that. Belgian nationalist activist, former member of parliament,
Starting point is 00:24:39 just been sentenced to a year in prison, a 16,000 euro fine, and 10 years of deprived civil rights, which means that he will not be able to run for office. Problem solved. And so Keith Woods put on Twitter, he said, I had the pleasure of meeting this guy last year. He was one of the most professional, dedicated activists I've encountered.
Starting point is 00:25:04 His party is currently topping the polls in Belgium. So let's arrest the leader, right? This is like Putin. This is like Stalin. They attack people like this because it works. It's very effective. And so Elon Musk drew attention to this. And there were some memes up there.
Starting point is 00:25:26 He said, somebody else sent this meme in a group chat. And you were given a prison sentence, he tweeted to him. And he said, yes. And even though the judge and the media admitted that I never sent any of these memes, he argued that I should have done more to keep others from sending them. They labeled the memes hate speech they were jokes punishable uh as a criminal offense in belgium so he actually speaks english and this is what the um the guy who is now going to be kicked out of politics for 10 years and is going
Starting point is 00:26:00 to jail what he had to say every cornerstone of a healthy society is being deconstructed. Men are no longer men, women are no longer women, and all the mental illnesses in between are applauded and celebrated. Our environment is being polluted on a massive scale. Celebrities, politicians and bankers that go to a private island to molest children are given free reign while nationalist activists are getting locked up without a trial for going to a private island to molest children are given free reign while nationalist activists are getting locked up without a trial for going to a protest. Our people are being poisoned with processed foods, with pornography, drugs, and Hollywood wokeness. Our cities, once the center of civilization, are now multicultural hellholes. Given these realities, one might argue that this is anything but the greatest
Starting point is 00:26:46 time to be alive. You'd say all of these things don't really make a man happy, but they do present us with what we as Europeans need, an enormous challenge. They give us purpose and that is why this is the greatest time to be alive. We men of the West, we were not made to just sit back and enjoy life. We weren't made to chase happiness. Those who chase happiness will end up unhappy. Instant gratification is making you depressed. Those who chase meaning and purpose instead of happiness, on the other hand, they will live fulfilling and meaningful lives and thus end up being the happy ones. It's because we Europeans, we were made to live an easy life.
Starting point is 00:27:29 We are the outcome of hardship and adversity. It's our nature to fight, to struggle, to suffer, to honor our ancestors, to achieve great and glorious things. And I've got good news for everyone here today. Because there's never been a better time to achieve those things than now well that's interesting do you think that they're going to shut him up he's gonna be like bring it on he'll get stronger than ever before probably probably now he doesn't mention his religious foundation you know there's your your determination to change society can only carry
Starting point is 00:28:05 you so far in difficult times but there have been people who have gone the entire length just on that alone he'd be even stronger if he's a christian i don't know if he is or not he didn't mention that there i don't think somehow though that they're going to um i think they're only going to strengthen the movement they're going to validate everything that he was just saying there. And you heard all the different talking points that he had there. I mean, that's this show. It could be me. It could be you.
Starting point is 00:28:33 That they do that too. And we must not run away from this. We have to confront this because it'll only get worse. It'll only get worse. As a matter of fact, this is what Congressman Massey said about the TikTok ban after the vote. He had this to say. The gentleman from Kentucky is recognized. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I know the other side is sincere, and we've not questioned that here today, and I won't question their sincerity. I would. In fact, I think they've identified at least three problems that we have in America. Moral decay of our society, invasion of Americans' privacy, and our competitiveness with China. But in this case, their cure is worse than the diseases. You know, there are ways to get at these root problems. We just haven't taken it upon ourselves to address those root problems with actual legislative solutions that have been put forth here in Congress. For instance, Mr. Warren Davidson's The Fourth Amendment is Not for Sale
Starting point is 00:29:37 Act would put a strong stake in the ground to protect Americans' privacy, whether it's from our own government or some foreign governments. That is the kind of thing we need. We need warrants in the FISA program. You shouldn't be able to, our government shouldn't be able to spy on Americans without a warrant, yet they are. Let's bring that to the floor and vote on it. These are the kind of cures we need, not the bill that's offered here today. The bill that's offered here today, even though I know it's offered genuinely, it could also be named the Facebook Protection and Enhancement Act. Because it's not the American people are going to benefit most from this. It will be Facebook. Their stock is going to go up if this
Starting point is 00:30:20 bill should pass the Senate. Now, what are some ways that we could improve this bill? Well, it should at least have a sunset. I mean, that's the only reason we're able to debate whether FISA should have warrants in it, because it sunsets. And what have we observed? FISA's been abused. That's my concern with this TikTok ban. It will be abused. If it's just banning TikTok and ByteDance and copies of that, why does it need to be 13 pages long? And I know they say it doesn't ban it. It forces divestiture of the company. This sounds like when American companies try to do business in third world countries and a dictator says, well, you can do business here. You just got to give me your company and now you can continue to do business.
Starting point is 00:31:07 It sounds like China doesn't. Take over Ford Motor Company for selling Ford cars in their country? Yet that's what we're wanting to do here. We become what we fight. You know, this is a cure that is worse than the disease. Who's going to be prosecuted by this bill? Is it ByteDance or TikTok? Will they be taken to court?
Starting point is 00:31:30 No. I mean, they're the target of this, but how do you elicit or effect a ban on them? By prosecuting Americans. The only way you can ban TikTok and the other companies from being here is to say what this bill says, which is we will bring civil action, the government will bring a civil action suit against you if you so much as host them here. If you have an app store that allows them to be here, you are an American or an American company and you will be the target of this bill. Those are the only people who can be pursued under
Starting point is 00:32:03 this bill. And I know it's in order to go after TikTok, or so they say. Well, I would just close by saying that, you know, we're sitting here with phones made in China. We're wearing suits made in China. We drove cars here with chips that are made in China. And they're our foreign adversary. And by golly, we're going to do something about it. What are we going to do? We're going to tell Americans they can't put a piece of software on their computer. They can't go to certain websites that the president designates. So I urge my colleagues to oppose this well-intentioned bill because it will have bad consequences.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And I yield back the balance of my time. Well, he's exactly right. Did you notice what he said there about civil asset lawsuit? It probably won't be a lawsuit with civil asset forfeiture. They can just come in and say, well, I don't have to, I don't have to prove anything. I'm coming after the app. And that means that I'm going to confiscate everything that's here. I'm not charging you with a crime.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I'm not going to give you a trial either. I'm just going to take everything. Theft. That's the way these people operate. Well, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to take a look at DEI and something that is hopeful that just happened about that. We'll be right back. If you like the Eagles,
Starting point is 00:33:26 the Cars, and Huey Lewis and the News, you'll love the Classic Hits channel at APS Radio. Download our app or listen now at APSradio.com. You're listening to The David Knight Show. so so Well, let's begin with the racism that's being inculcated by these Marxists who are using this to sow social discord, division, civil war, and all the rest of this. And it truly is racism. And I'll just mention again, know when the marxists they
Starting point is 00:35:05 would have to have a struggle it was always an economic class struggle in europe that wasn't working here and then he had bill ayers and bernadine dorn the weathermen realized that hey we could use race to achieve that in the united states better and so there was already a theory out there called black or white skin privilege, and they just shortened it up to white privilege and they stopped bombing buildings. They got off and some other people in the weather underground went to jail, but not them. And they went into education and got involved with in Chicago with Obama and other people,
Starting point is 00:35:43 but had a big impact in education, got this white-skin privilege stuff put through. The roots of all this are Marxist. And, of course, we talked about Mao's America, a survivor's warning. And the lady who wrote that grew up in China. She saw all of this. None of this is any different whatsoever than what they did in China. It's just that they have a different MacGuffin, a different thing that you're supposedly fighting over, but it's exactly the same
Starting point is 00:36:18 tactic and exactly the same end goal there. And so we have in the London theater, that's going to be a play that's going to be running this summer from July to September, but they have blocked off two nights and they call it a blackout. I guess it should be called a whiteout because white people can't come to the play that night. Only black people can go to the play that night, two nights white people will not be welcome.
Starting point is 00:36:45 They call it a blackout, but it's actually a whiteout. Get out of here, whites. Upcoming West End Theater show for Slave Play. That's the name of the play. We'll have blackout nights for black identifying audience. So I guess you can still go as long as you're like Rachel DeLiesel and you identify as a black as long as you're like rachel deleazle and you identify as a black person even though you're not that's what they call it black identifying
Starting point is 00:37:10 audience they'll ban any white people from attending two special performances in that theater well i just i really wanted to see that sounded like a great play um ibram x kindy the racist he says we need present discrimination against white people to make up for past discrimination well you know the problem is two wrongs don't make a right what they make is a feud they make a civil war you they did that to us we're going to do it back to them uh there's one person commented talking about uh their announcement this person this guy is absolutely giddy about being an out and proud racist he can't believe his luck that he's allowed to say this stuff out loud and uh so and it's and it's everywhere in the
Starting point is 00:37:59 uk uh one person said well now we know who the real bigots are, don't we? But if you have a difference of opinion, just as we saw in Belgium with a guy, and he's part of a movement. You heard he spoke fluent English, but he also speaks. He also that area of Belgium, Flanders, is really more closely aligned with the Netherlands than they speak Dutch in general. And so that's another aspect of that, people seeking to have self-governance. But in the UK, another person went to prison. This guy got two years, not one year, but two years over some stickers.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And they said that he was intending to stir up racial hatred with various anti-immigration stickers, things like white lives matter, why this is in the UK where this play is, why are the people in that play not being charged with the same. Why are they going to jail for two years? Because they are trying to stir up racial hatred. No doubt about it. That's the point of their play. That's the point of their play.
Starting point is 00:39:05 That's the point of their blackout nights or whiteout nights, I should say. That's what they should call them. They call them blackout night. He says, we'll be a minority in our homeland by 2066. Now, of course, the truth is no defense against these tyrants because that is true. I don't think it'll be that long before at the rate that they're bringing people in a 34 year old man charged in charge of an online collection of downloadable stickers that contained anti-immigration messages.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And they said other people use these stickers. And so he's a center of all this. You look at this and this is what I warned about the drug war i said look i don't like any of these drugs i don't use any of these drugs but when you start setting up prohibition you give all kinds of power to government and just as we saw with alcohol prohibition which was done correctly legally i should say it was done legally with a constitutional amendment they never did the drug war legally. That's why it's nullified. That's one lesson to learn from it.
Starting point is 00:40:10 But the other thing, and so many more, well, more than half of the States. But when you start to give them this kind of power, they never, they never pull back. And,
Starting point is 00:40:23 and so now we've got a situation where people these kinds of authoritarian dystopian let's forget about the law we're just going to use civil asset forfeiture we're just going to grab everything you've got because you know drugs are so bad and we've got to do this through law enforcement so let's keep ramping up the law enforcement to be more and more police state more and more totalitarian And eventually what happens is they start using these tactics against other things. They came up with the RICO statute to come after organized crime. What did they wind up doing? They wound up using the RICO statute against pro-life protesters.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And Randy Alcorn was a pastor, a very well-known author. He was a very successful author. His books were selling. He had fiction books. He also had Christian theology books that he was writing, The Treasure Principle, great book. But he was also, he and his wife got involved in helping a young pregnant woman
Starting point is 00:41:20 through Crisis Pregnancy Center. And then that drew him in, and he got more involved in that and so Planned Parenthood came after him with a RICO statute and they got a judgment against him and so for 20 years he was determined that he was not going to pay them a penny he gave away all the royalties to the books that he sold and he lived on minimum wage and just paid himself you know had the publishers pay him the very minimum that you could live off of for 20 years. And it was a real blessing to him. Again, it's kind of where the treasure principle comes from.
Starting point is 00:41:54 You're talking about somebody who's not going to sell out. That's Randy Alcorn. But, you know, it's a Rico statue that was used against them. And so, you know, that had its origin and looking at something like drug addiction and drug use, something that is a medical, a psychological, but especially a spiritual problem and saying, let's let government fix it.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Government's got one tool. It's got a hammer and everything looks like a nail to it. And so it is, they've taken a hammer to the justice system they've taken a hammer to the constitution they've taken hammer to everything in our life with a drug war so anyway i had slogans like we'll be a minority in our homeland by 2066 and so they're giving him two two years in prison. His wife is eight months pregnant. He will not be there when the child is born. Elon Musk reposted it and added a couple likes he does to draw people's attention to it. He has a couple of exclamation marks like, Whoa, look at this. And, um, so, um, he, uh, Keith Woods addressed him and said, Elon, he said, Sam's ex-account is suspended, along with his wife, Laura.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Seeing how unfair the British justice system is to people that advocate for their people, perhaps you should reconsider their suspensions and give them a chance to defend themselves uh they're you know some of the people who are still purged they're on the free speech platform of uh twitter elsewhere in the uk and we're going to get to the united states in a minute here the church of england hiring uh an officer to quote deconstruct whiteness this is what the church of eng. Like I said, when you mix politics and religion, what you get is politics. It's just a political organization. It has nothing to do with Christianity. Nothing to do with Christianity. Hiring a deconstructing whiteness officer is part of a new racial justice unit,
Starting point is 00:44:00 the Church of England, this big bureaucracy there. A female bishop commented on this and said we need to further embed racial justice and we should not be afraid of being called woke. Well, I'm not going to call you woke. You're a Marxist. I'm not going to use your terms, your labels. And one person replied and said,
Starting point is 00:44:27 the irony of many of these projects is that they're importing American perspectives and overlaying them on a country that is incredibly tolerant. Well, I don't know. I think they may be ahead of us in terms of implementation. It is, of course, a globalist agenda. One could say that the global governance that is now in place is headquartered in America. We have so much control over the UN and NATO and all these different organizations. But he says no less than 80% of the worldwide Anglican communion is black.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And their black theology is very conservative. But you never see the church paying attention to any of that. Yeah, outside of England, especially in Africa, he's right. They have very conservative Anglican Christians. They began in that tradition, but, you know, they haven't gotten involved in British politics in that time. That's the thing that's corrupted them in England. But then let's go to Florida. And I have my concerns when I'm talking about free speech.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I have my concerns about what the Republicans and DeSantis have done in terms of hate speech. I don't think there should ever be any hate speech laws, especially not criminal laws. And they did that and that's uh reprehensible however um having said that and i oppose that i support what uh what they've done with dei and we need to understand that the real fountainhead for all this stuff is the colleges that's really where this is coming out and he and others have taken that on they've actually taken over a small college um i think it's in sarasota maybe it's a kind of a spinoff from the university of south florida and tampa
Starting point is 00:46:18 where i went and um well that place was crazy when I went there 50 years ago, they had some full on Marxists that were there. I didn't even argue with them. I just dropped their classes as a waste of time, uh, and would start over again with some, some other instructor, some other different class. But anyway, the, um, the, um, they've already done this in a small college. And then the legislature passed and the governor signed an act saying that none of the Florida universities would have DEI staff. And so the first one to comply with this, evidently, I don't see that anybody else has done it. University of Florida, I don't see that FSU or USF or any of these others have done it. They fired all of their DEI people effective immediately. To comply with the
Starting point is 00:47:13 Florida Board of Governors regulation on prohibited expenditures, the University of Florida has closed the office of the chief diversity officer, eliminated DEI positions and administrative appointments, and halted DEI-focused contracts with outside vendors, said a statement from the provost. Approximately $5 million in funds previously allocated to DEI initiatives will now be reallocated into a faculty recruitment fund. Maybe they could even get some people who are not full-on Marxists as faculty. That'd be an interesting change. In January, Florida's Board of Governors voted to ban state funding
Starting point is 00:47:50 on DEI programs across all public universities in the state. But again, it seems like the University of Florida is the first one to do it so far. Ben Sasse, the former congressman, went there. He was a Republican, but a lot of people kind of saw him as a really kind of left-leaning, quote-unquote, moderate type of Republican. But he became the president. Maybe that's why they're doing it first. Florida is one of a dozen state legislatures that have introduced or passed bills to limit or to eliminate DEI programs in state colleges or universities. If your state is not one of these, then make sure that it is.
Starting point is 00:48:31 We need to get rid of these things. Again, like I said, this is the fountainhead of this Marxist theory that is there. The news comes about one week after College Fix had an exclusive investigative report noting that the University of Florida employs one administrator for every four undergraduates. I think they're a little bit heavy on the administration side, don't you? With some of the administrative overhead related to the university's DEI initiatives. Yeah, they're spending $5 million a year on DEI.
Starting point is 00:49:06 University of Florida's DEI initiatives consisted of equivalent of 24 full-time employees. The initiatives cost the university $5.3 million, $3.3 million of it is state funded. The chief diversity officer, Marsha McGriff, she doesn't spell that with a T it's two Fs, but she should have spelled it with a McGriff. Oh, McGriff made $300,000 a year, pushing this DEI stuff according to public records. And so,
Starting point is 00:49:44 and that was back in November, 2022. She, maybe she got a raise last year, gave herself a raise. Probably did. Look, we can, this is the point of this too. We don't have, we're not helpless. We're not hopeless. We can do something about this. It can be fixed at the state level.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Imagine this. We've got Biden as president and you just had Florida kill DEI in their university system. How did that happen? It's the money. It's how you control things. It's how you control things. It's how the state government can control this stuff. They give money out to these universities,
Starting point is 00:50:19 and then if they don't do what they like, they pull it back. Obama, through the Department of Education, and all these other presidents have said, well, we would like for you to teach this. We'd like for you to put boys in the girls' bathrooms and showers. And if you don't do that, they pull the money away. And then Trump says, we'd like for you to lock down people, keep them six feet apart, have them wear masks, give them fines, beat them up, do all the rest of this stuff. And I've got a vaccines company. Help me with all of this stuff. And he pays them. vaccines company, you know, help me with all of this stuff. And he pays them.
Starting point is 00:50:46 He pays them. He pays the hospitals to kill people. He pays them to do it. And if they don't do it, they pull the money back. That's how it works to the federal level. That's how it works to the president, how it works with the governors. That's why it's important for two things. First of all, you don't need to get control of the federal government to make a change.
Starting point is 00:51:04 You can change it at the state level. And you can change it at the local level as well. And you can change it at the personal level. When we're talking about education, it always amazes me to see people who have the motivation to create a private school. Or they have the motivation to homeschool their children. And then they come around and they beg for a government handout. Do you realize what you're doing to yourself? You're putting chains on yourself with this money. The money are chains and strings that will be used to control you. And if you get the right person in, they can start yanking those chains around and pull those
Starting point is 00:51:44 DEI people that are paying themselves $300,000 a year right out of the university. We'll be right back. If you like the Eagles, the Cars, and Huey Lewis and the News, you'll love the Classic Hits channel at APS Radio. Download our app or listen now at APSradio.com. ¶¶ © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Liberty. It's your move. now the david knight show well welcome back and i want to cover a couple of comments from listeners this is from a long-term supporter of ours on subscribe star for the love of the road. He said, Tony, talking about matching tips on Rumble last week reminded me about the issues that
Starting point is 00:54:09 you had months ago. Is Rumble doing better at getting checks in the mail? Yes, they are. It was really kind of strange. They were just kind of collecting stuff and letting it go for a couple of months and then they, and there wasn't any way that we could tell them, send the check and they'd just do it whenever they wanted to and then all of a sudden, you know, and then they send the check and there wasn't any way that we could tell them, send the check and they'd just do it whenever they wanted to.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And then all of a sudden, you know, and then they send the check and we don't get it. And two months go by and we don't get it. You know, the check is in the mail. Well, actually it was a real mess. I don't know what happened, but after about two or three months, and that was about three months worth of, um, uh, things that they finally, finally uh canceled that and reissued another check and then the other check showed up so i don't know what's going on uh but yeah they're doing fine with it now and it's it's more regular so uh we did have a strange thing that happened
Starting point is 00:54:56 yesterday with rumble and karen was looking at the feed and she and she took a snapshot of it she thought it was so strange there's all these people who were commenting on the side and um uh and and uh and it said one viewer one viewer one view uh really really strange uh so there are some things that are going on um perhaps it's just uh growing pains and maybe there's's no DEI subversity going on. I hope not, anyway. And so thank you. I appreciate that for the love of the road, and I appreciate your support there on Subscribestar.
Starting point is 00:55:36 And by the way, I just want to say I just saw an email. I meant to mention it yesterday in the morning. I haven't gone through the total up and thank people for uh zell a lot of people have contributed on zell i really do appreciate that that uh we get that right away and there's no fee attached to that right now at this point so it's kind of an interesting uh thing that's happening there maybe it's like a temporary test from the banks to see if people want to use it or not but um i do appreciate that and we saw i wanted to thank benjamin r very generous contribution that we got yesterday but i'll put
Starting point is 00:56:10 this together and let everybody know i believe we're at about uh we're on par for this month so far we're right about half even though i don't think we've updated the the gas gauge that far but that's about where we are speaking of things stuck in the mail we just got this back and this package was sent to a listener who ordered something in israel and they kicked this package out of israel i don't know it's almost like i'm on the adl list or something like that um and proud of it by the way uh but uh but, uh, yeah, it's got these three yellow stickers that are on there that you can see. Uh, it's an English and it's in Hebrew and it has a reason for non-delivery and they have different things like unknown, moved, incomplete address, refused,
Starting point is 00:56:58 unclaimed other. And none of those boxes are checked. And there's three of these labels on there. Nothing is checked. There's no reason given for why it was returned. We're going to try to contact the person. This was actually shipped December the 15th, 2022. 2022. Not last year. I looked at it as December 15th. I'm like, well, it certainly took them a while to get this thing back.
Starting point is 00:57:25 But no, this was 2022, the middle of December. So I apologize. I won't mention the person's name. I don't know what's going on with all this stuff, but we're going to try to contact them and let them know. But I wanted to mention it on the show because I don't know if we can find this person. It's been so long. It's been what? A year and three or four months since
Starting point is 00:57:46 this thing was sent has been floating around in limbo yeah let's talk about elections by mail okay and then this was sent by aaron he says just watching your monday show where you were talking about the measles and how people used to have chicken pox parties he said this is a clip from an old simpsons episode and he said um uh where they highlighted exactly that nobody died and there was no need for any poison injections thought you might consider showing this on your show i love this uh this is the Simpsons talking about the little baby gets chicken pox and they have a pox party. Sweetie, I know it itches, but you've got to stop scratching.
Starting point is 00:58:34 No. No. Here, play with your teddy bear. Oh, sugar booger. Oh, poor Maggie. Homer, don't touch her. You've never had chicken pox. I know, and you did, and you're great.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Oh, I'm just saying it's very dangerous if you get it as an adult. Hey, Homer, why the sour puss? Did you chug-a-lug a skunky snapple? I don't know, maybe. Plus, my wife won't let me inside because the baby's got chicken pox. Really? Do you mind if I bring my boys over so she can infect Rod and Todd? Why would you do that? Are you a bad parent? You see, Rod and Todd could only get the chicken pox once, and childhood's the safest time.
Starting point is 00:59:15 So you want Maggie to infect your kids? You betcha. In fact, some parents have been known to hold pox parties so other kids in the neighborhood can get the disease when they please. Welcome to our pox parties so other kids in the neighborhood can get the disease when they please. Welcome to our pox party. Save room for punch. Maggie's bathing in the bowl. Ladies and gentlemen, presenting the sister with the blisters that taught with all the spots, Maggie!
Starting point is 00:59:46 This is before they had the COVID masks and everything, so he's got a full-on shirt. I feel like a chicken already. I just made an egg in my pants. March, what's happening to me? Now he's got chicken pox. What the hell? I don't know. I kept away from Maggie all day.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Oh, I'm so itchy. Oh, yeah. You sit in this oatmeal a while and it'll send your itchies packing. Homer. Mmm, Homer Oats. Stop eating the oatmeal. That's the third time you've eaten. Hello.
Starting point is 01:00:32 No, I'm not coming into work. I have chicken pox. I know I said that last month, but I was lying. I love you, bye. I just got fired. And of course, of course, you see his phone there. That kind of dates it as well, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:00:53 That's Matt. I don't know how you pronounce his last name. Is it Grunig or something? Yeah. But the guy that did The Simpsons, I looked up his age. He's the same age as I am, essentially. Now, Trump is 10 years older than both of us and and he knows that uh nobody considered these childhood diseases to be
Starting point is 01:01:12 really a big issue you wanted to get them when you're a child because it was easier to deal with it and um then you never had it again that's why they call them childhood diseases i tried to explain it to bright part the other day and we covered it they were saying well just because i called a childhood disease doesn't mean it isn't really really serious you know. I tried to explain it to Breitbart the other day, and we covered it. They were saying, well, just because I call it a childhood disease doesn't mean it isn't really, really serious. And then tried to pump up fear. And, of course, Trump was trying to pump up fear. Got to get that shot, right?
Starting point is 01:01:36 They have to get the shot. The vaccinations are so important. Mandated. They're really going around now. Mandated shot. He's pushing the mandates. We don't care about your religious exemptions or your medical exam you got to get the shot and i've always said he knows better matt groenig knows better i know better and again trump is 10 years older than us he grew up uh without a shot and i'm sure that he got it because it is very contagious and you get it once once and done but um now the reason this is
Starting point is 01:02:07 being done and it's been put out there by uh you know abc nbc cbs people like that the hill but especially breitbart and that's the thing that really bothered me seeing it what are they doing with this now you know why the mainstream media is doing it because they want to build business for their sponsors you know know, everybody is. Good morning, America is brought to you by Pfizer. We're all brought to you by Pfizer. So they want to drum up money for their sponsor there, right? But the reason that is being pushed by Breitbart is because they want to scare people about the border situation.
Starting point is 01:02:40 How reprehensible is this? But of course, we saw a lot of the big con media, the big conservative media, conning people with fear about the pandemic at the very beginning of this. So they could sell you storable food and masks and all the rest of the stuff. It's what Alex did in Infowars. And so you've got these,
Starting point is 01:02:58 now they're trying to scare people about the border. And look, there's reasons that we need to close the border. Many reasons that it needs to be controlled. But you don't need to add something like this because this is, first of all, a lie. Secondly, it has some very bad consequences when you start pushing this stuff. You're pushing their mandated vaccine narrative. And that's what they're doing. They said, look at this.
Starting point is 01:03:23 These people coming across the border, they haven't been given the childhood vaccines it's just it's just disease these people are disease coming across here they are illegal diseases coming right across the border and so the cdc is going to be sending a team of experts to support the local response in chicago after a lot of these filthy immigrants coming in with their measles and stuff where nobody died nobody died they had a child who died at one of these centers and that was the headline of breitbart it's like and it says measles you know and where child died they had a child die of measles i'd never heard of that as we're having our pox parties and i looked at it and that was the other thing that really bothered me that bright bar did they they implied strongly implied in the headline although in the body of the of the article if you look at it that the child did not die from measles
Starting point is 01:04:14 but they imply that the child did die from measles they get you to read the article and then they tell you know uh about one out of x number of thousand people we had is a serious case or something. People could die. Well, it's no different than the flu. Same thing is true about the flu. So go stay in your room forever so you never catch a cold from anybody. Load yourself up with a whole bunch of layers of cloth masks and you'll be fine. You'll be fine. So the Chicago Health Department said it evaluated and immunized 900 shelter residents against measles, mumps, and rubella, the MMR shot.
Starting point is 01:04:50 So they were able to give out about 1,000 shots for the corporate sponsor, Pfizer, over the weekend. And then they assessed the immunity status of 700. Probably 700 other people. They'll probably have to give it to them just to be safe. Don't you think? I think everybody's got to get it. Meanwhile, we have a legal group that is challenging. One of these cases that has been used to try to give legal authority for the government
Starting point is 01:05:18 to mandate health care to you. This is Jacob versus Massachusetts, 119-year-old case. And if you remember this, when people like Trump crony Alan Dershowitz is bragging about the fact, I would have the government come down, not just coerce you, not just say, if you don't do this, you're going to lose your job or your education or whatever. I would have the military come in or whoever. People come in and drag you out by force and forcibly inject you. And I would defend that before the Supreme Court and I would win, he said.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Well, there are people, a lot of people, and he cited this case, Jacob versus Massachusetts. And so that is questionable whether or not that would support that. But now a group called the New Civil Liberties Alliance, NCLA, has a court case over the vaccine mandate. So they brought up to the Supreme Court and they're asking the Supreme Court to consider overturning this as part of the court case to overturn the Jacob versus Massachusetts Jacobson yeah Jacobson versus Massachusetts look the Supreme Court cases are not law but if they are making law or if they're making precedents or opinions or whatever they can always change any of this stuff as we saw with Roe v. Wade so there's nothing that is set in concrete.
Starting point is 01:06:46 These are just opinions. And they're not laws, by the way. Petitioners all were employees of Michigan State University when the mandate was announced and they had demonstrable naturally acquired immunity to the virus. For this reason, and by the way, you shouldn't have to have a reason. I don't need to give you a reason why i don't want to inject something into my body and i don't really care about what your reasons are either okay but for this reason they declined to receive these trump shots i'll call them
Starting point is 01:07:17 disciplinary proceedings against them commenced and two of the three eventually were terminated a federal court dismissed a previous lawsuit ruling governmental vaccine mandates are subject only to rational basis review, whatever that means. And they cited the Jacobson case. The 1905 Jacobson decision concerned a smallpox vaccine mandate by the city of Massachusetts. The decision articulated the belief that individual liberty must be subordinated to the welfare of the general public. See, I absolutely reject that idea. And anybody should reject that idea.
Starting point is 01:07:55 But this isn't just anybody. This is the government. This is the Supreme Court we're talking about, as well as the collective good of the nation. Thus, liberty in relation to public health may be subordinate to the power of the state. And a summary from Pace University's law school said, it has been used to justify not just vaccine mandates, but forcible sterilization of individuals who have been deemed unfit to reproduce. Well, that's actually kind of redundant i mean uh the globalists who put this whole thing together have deemed that all of us are unfit
Starting point is 01:08:34 to reproduce they don't want us they don't need us they think and they'd like to get rid of us they're concerned uh that we might take away the things that they play with. So to keep their toys, they want to kill the rest of us. That's really what this is about. And there's a huge component of this besides killing people. The people who survive, many of them are impaired in terms of being able to have children along with many of the other things that they course on us, force on us. But understand this has been used by eugenicists. So we're going to forcibly sterilize somebody for the good of society,
Starting point is 01:09:09 you know? So the NCLA raises a question of where the rational basis review automatically applies to all legal challenges to vaccine mandates. They argue that the Supreme court should look over, look to other more recent rulings and apply what they called heightened scrutiny. I don't know what that is. It said it would raise the bar for vaccine mandates. Look, it's just real simple.
Starting point is 01:09:34 It's either your body and your choice or it isn't. And abortion is not your body. It's somebody else. But these people who are so adamant about abortion are usually the same ones who demand that your body be injected for their good, for their good. If government can mandate unwanted medical treatment anytime someone or an intervention is even remotely rational, quote unquote, there is essentially no limit on governmental powers in this area. That's the precedent that they set. That's the Trump precedent. So they said there could be some long-term benefits to this
Starting point is 01:10:15 in any future health crisis. Governments must be required to actually follow basic scientific principles rather than political fads if they win. So, you know, we'll see what happens with it. Governments did not cite Jacobson when adopting regulations because governments rarely cite their authority to promulgate legislation or rules until they are challenged in court. That's one of the people challenging it.
Starting point is 01:10:42 But in every or almost every lawsuit jacobson was relied on and or cited by the deciding court in other words you have these little petty dictators unelected unaccountable bureaucrats who say you got to do this you got to do that you know simon says you know put a mask on your head simon says put another cloth mask on your head. Simon says, turn around. Keep six feet away from everybody else. And they don't cite any authority for that because they have no authority for that. But then when they go to court, they will cite this Jacobson case. So these people said it needs to be heard.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Now, Neil Gorsuch has criticized the widespread use of Jacobson back in November of 2020. Remember, Trump was still president then. The Supreme Court enjoined New York from enforcing gathering limits on religious services. Gorsuch wrote a concurring opinion in which he criticized the use of Jacobson. He said nothing in Jacobson purported to address, let alone approve, such serious and long-lasting intrusions into settled constitutional rights, such as limits or restrictions on people gathering. He wrote, authority that overshadows the constitution during a pandemic. And the end, I can only surmise that much of the answer lies in particular judicial impulse to stay out of the way in times of crisis.
Starting point is 01:12:12 But if that impulse may be understandable or even admirable in other circumstances, we may not shelter in place when the constitution is under attack. Things never go well when we do. Well, that's true of all of us not just supreme court justices i gotta say that of the three that uh trump has put in he you know none of them are perfect they've all already had bad decisions uh but uh he hasn't had nearly as many or as egregiously bad decisions as uh Coney Barrett or Brett Kavanaugh. Gorsuch has been much better than them.
Starting point is 01:12:49 But we'll see what happens. The justices always drift left, typically. Clarence Thomas hasn't. And Samuel Alito, for the most part, has. And they haven't gotten everything right. I'm not defending everything they do. I disagree with a lot of their decisions. But for the most part, they have gotten it right. Wealth over health. And this article from the expose
Starting point is 01:13:12 contrasts what happened in 1999 with the rotavirus vaccine to what did not happen with the Trump vaccines, these genetic code injections. In 1999, there was a decision to withdraw the roto shield rotavirus vaccine from the market due to an association with an increased risk of a rare but serious bowel obstruction but then of course as we all know doesn't matter how non-rare these situations are with a trump shot you're not going to have anybody ever talk about pulling this stuff out anymore and i talked about back in the 1970s nine states banned one of these flu shots when i think it was three or four people died we're way way beyond that. In Croatia, a pathologist has said that there, 65% of the cancer cases got one or more of the Trump shots that are out there. A genetic code injection.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Yeah, that is exactly what we're looking at. at and um when you look at um even our food right 90 of u.s cheese contains genetically modified organisms from pfizer from pfizer yeah good morning america is brought to you by pfizer and of course why wouldn't they be because they they completely own the FDA food and drug administration. So, yeah, let's get into the food business as well. We can stick our GMO stuff into cheese. Who stole the cheese? And get this. What they've put in there, what Pfizer has contributed to U.S. cheese is a clotting agent.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Now, they use it to curdle the milk into cheese. But yeah, they came up with a genetically modified clotting agent. I think we noticed. It's in Trump's shot as well. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 01:17:23 A little bit of BioNTech does no harm a little johnson johnson that's the trick a little estes andy kast so you don't get sick it's booster number five yeah booster number nine number nine and there was some back and forth yesterday it was sent to me by harry hound appreciate the heads up and uh but yeah this has been going on now for over a week because it really didn't even start with the state of the union and trump being so offended that he wasn't given credit for the uh pfizer shot it really began a couple of days before that with the state of the union trump spends his super tuesday speech complaining that he quote never got credit unquote for his handling of covid when over a million
Starting point is 01:18:12 people died uh way more than that because it wasn't covid it was his hospital rules that were killing most of the people and the neglect as well as the poison that was given to those and then two days later in response to the state of the union of course his big problem with biden's state of the union his big problem was the fact that biden didn't give him credit for the poison shot uh you know not only did he brag about his democide two days earlier but that was his big problem with the state of the union and as i played a couple weeks ago katherine austin fits when she went on with one of these trump cheerleaders
Starting point is 01:18:50 greg hunter with the usa watchdog she said to him you know i'm not gonna let you do this about trump well trump he was deceived you know he didn't know what he said she says no you gotta hold people accountable you gotta tell the truth you gotta hold people accountable. You got to tell the truth. You got to hold people accountable. That is the only way out of this, said Catherine Austin Fitz. I am sick to death of these sycophants and cheerleaders. And you can watch these people squirm when Trump does something like he did a week ago. So, and it's still going on. It's still echoing, uh, in social media as a life site news said about it at the time, it said in January, 2023, Trump dismissed potential safety issues by
Starting point is 01:19:36 suggesting that the problems were relatively small in number. He's an a hundred percent agreement with Fauci folks. He left him in place. He put him there. He left him there. He left him there. He gave him a medal on the last day. He told his voters who were yelling at him, fire Fauci, fire Fauci, fire Fauci. Reelect me.
Starting point is 01:19:54 We'll see. We'll see. He stressed some people say that I saved 100 million lives worldwide. And some people say you killed almost that many just with your shot. At the time, mRNA technology pioneer and prominent COVID establishment critic, Dr. Robert Malone, revealed that he once filmed a video meant to encourage Trump to change his mind on the subject, but it had no impact, he said. That June, Trump brushed off an audience member who told him, we've lost people because you supported the jab. He said, well, everybody wanted a vaccine at the time.
Starting point is 01:20:26 I was able to do something that nobody else could have done. And, you know, that part of it is true. Nobody else could have pulled the wool over the MAGA people's eyes like Trump did. They made him into the great opposition of globalism. And then he became the center point of the global agenda charging us to pay pfizer moderna to create this thing and manufacture it using the military to ship it around sold it around the world he repeated that answer in an interview the same month with fox news brett bear
Starting point is 01:21:03 lamenting that as a Republican, it's not a great thing to talk about because for some reason it's just not, he said. Then he stressed that he has no regrets about his administration's overall COVID response. He regularly declares his administration deserved more credit on COVID. And then most recently this last week. In response to what he just did on state of the union and his tweet there
Starting point is 01:21:26 journalist ryan mata said looks like we don't need to buy any more maga gear trump will be wearing a pfizer hat at his next rally another person said uh what is wrong with this man who would say this garbage? We all have friends and family and children. We know who were murdered by these vaccines. And so another one said, Matt Kibbe, said, reminder, almost everything that makes you angry about the authoritarian government response to the so-called pandemic.
Starting point is 01:22:02 I say so-called. He just called it a pandemic. But everything about the government response to the pandemic-called pandemic. I say so-called, he called, just called it a pandemic, but everything about the government response to the pandemic started with the Trump administration. Biden simply doubled down on the same policies using the same poison, the same injections, the same remdesivir, the same ventilators, the same money program to pay the hospitals to do all this stuff. Despite the facts, this is from Bradley Dean of Sons of Liberty.
Starting point is 01:22:31 He said, despite the facts, the con man that the Mockingbird media is doing its best to drive back into the people's White House, Donald Trump, the self-proclaimed father of the vaccine, who had the brazen audacity to come out recently and to make false claims concerning the pandemic that he initialed. And then he quoted, he just puts the reference to John eight 44, which says he was a murderer from the beginning. There is no truth in him.
Starting point is 01:23:03 When he speaks, he speaks his native language for he is a liar and the father of the vaccine i'm sorry the father of liars right yeah trump daily mail says between 10 to 20 percent uh one doctor says in the daily, between 10 to 20% of my heart attack patients are now under the age of 40, says Dr. Martin Lowe, a consultant cardiologist in London. In the U.S., he said, data shows about one in five heart attack patients is under 40 and we're catching up in the U.K. When I was a junior doctor, it was extremely rare to see young people. Most patients were smokers in their 50s and 60s young athletes uh kids in junior high school gotta have a cardiology a heart test before um electron cardiograph thing uh to uh they gotta look at your heart okay before you can play sports
Starting point is 01:24:04 it's so baffling isn't it young people dropping dead of heart attacks and unprecedented whatever could it be yeah as vox populi says it really is a true puzzler isn't it very sticky here uh i don't think that even sherlock holmes hercule perot uh any of these other detectives could ever discover this well you know i think herc Poirot would recognize what's going on. Like I said many times, it's like murder on the Orient Express. Except it's murder on the Warp Speed Express. Seth Hancock says, well, Don, I'll give you the credit you deserve.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Except I don't call it credit, I call it blame. You sold America out to the globalist agenda. You are to blame for millions of people dead from your bioweapon exactly right and yet you know just yesterday we see this from the new american the john birch society uh trump endorses deep stater. When will he learn? They correctly diagnose Mike Rogers and they don't cut him any slack for his record. They call him out for his bad record, but they cut slack for Donald Trump. Even the birchers are doing this. What does it matter with these people?
Starting point is 01:25:19 What does it matter with them? Donald Trump recently endorsed Michigan's former congressman, Mike Rogers, for the state's open Senate seat, sparking backlash from Rand Paul about Trump's counsel and his ability to avoid the personal pitfalls of his presidency. Today, we discuss Rogers' intelligence past, his terrible voting record as lawmaker, and Trump's continuing judgment problem. Are you kidding me, guys? Come on. Let's get real about this stuff. Maybe Trump knows what he's doing. If he did this the entire four years, his continuing judgment problem, yeah,
Starting point is 01:25:57 it continued out through his entire administration, the people he put in his administration, the people he put in charge, the people he listened to, he said, through a pandemic lockdown. It's all of it. All of it. And if he's not a tool of these people, he's a fool. You need to wake up. You've got a judgmental problem. If you're going to refuse to hold him accountable, you hold Mike Rogers accountable, but you won't hold trump accountable are you kidding me when will conservatives learn who trump is are you afraid of losing your audience you need to tell the truth i've always seen the john birch society tell the truth before and i'm sick of this kind of stuff i'm really sick of it and then we got bill mitchell who i talked about before who was twisting around trying to maneuver and excuse Trump a week ago.
Starting point is 01:26:49 And somebody sent a thing to him saying, you know, what is going on with Laura Loomer? She's so crazy, lunatic. And so this was sent to me by Harry Hound on Twitter. Why doesn't Trump distance himself from people like Laura Loomer, who can be toxic at times? And so then Bill Mitchell is making excuses for Trump, and now he's going to make excuses like Laura Loomer, who can be toxic at times. And so then Bill Mitchell is making excuses for Trump. And now he's going to make excuses for Laura Loomer. Never stops. People want to hang together, don't they?
Starting point is 01:27:13 Well, you better not criticize Laura Loomer. She'd come after you. Yeah, you spineless, gutless. Yeah, Bill Mitchell. It just looks like Max Headroom, doesn't he? Just every time I look at him, I want the stuttering stuff. Anyway, Laura clearly. So here's his reasons.
Starting point is 01:27:29 He said lots of reasons, and he gives five reasons. Number one, Laura clearly loves Trump and is very loyal to him. So what? So what? That's a fault. That's not a virtue. You are attached to a person. Actually, you're attached to an audience.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Number two, a lot of the work that Laura does is very good. She is toxic occasionally, but her style is to be controversial, and sometimes you get toxic with that. Her illegal immigration reporting has been very good and took bravery on her part. Well, I haven't seen that. I've seen her chain herself to doors and things like that, just stunts, stunts. I find that to be counterproductive. It does get you a lot of attention. She's closing in, I think, on a million followers on Twitter. So if that's your goal, but if your goal is to inform people, if your goal is to change society for the better,
Starting point is 01:28:20 that doesn't help. It actually hinders it number three Laura is very popular with many in the Trump base and there would be backlash if she's criticized see number one number three she loves Trump and the base loves Trump and so we're gonna do what the base wants we're not going to tell the truth we're going to tell what works out for us right number four the people that Laura pisses off with some of her more combative tweets pretty much hate trump anyway it's always about trump trump in the audience trump in the audience trump in the audience bill mitchell and five laura plays hardball if you don't like hardball
Starting point is 01:28:56 you really need to get out of politics well yeah but um again if your purpose is to persuade you know that's part of the problem. Maybe one of the reasons why Trump is such a pariah to so many people. Well, I saw that and I could not help but respond. And I said, for all the lying, grifting sycophants who cover for each other, like Bill Mitchell covering for Laura Loomer. As they try to hide Trump's pride, his lies, his lockdown pandemic, his shedding of innocent blood with his jabs and his political wars to divide and conquer, there is something far more important than winning in this sleazy political game.
Starting point is 01:29:45 I just look at politics and it's just so oily and disgusting. It's like opening up a raw sewage. Every day I look at it. And that's why I get really angry sometimes. But I quoted Proverbs on the tweet. I said there's six things. He's got five reasons to like Laura Loomer, right? Well, here are six things that the Lord hates.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Seven that are an abomination to him. Haughty eyes. Somebody proud like Trump. A lying tongue like Trump. Like some of these people who cover for him. Hands that shed innocent blood. A heart that devises wicked plans. Feet that make haste to run to evil at warp speed.
Starting point is 01:30:38 A false witness who breathes out lies and one who sows discord amongst even the gop amongst brothers let alone the country in general this guy is a one-man civil war everywhere he goes he mixes it up whenever i see trump i think of you remember it was before the beatles were doing stuff um you know they were they were um before there was MTV or any music videos they did a lot of music videos and stuff and so they did early on they did this black and white thing I don't remember even which one it was a hard day's night or something like that um but and uh you know they're just these uh just these four lads from Liverpool right and and but they've got an old man who's an uncle to one of them, if I can remember correctly.
Starting point is 01:31:27 It's been a long time, but I always think about that. And this guy was just always trying to set people against each other. They were taking on a train trip with him or something like that. But he was trying to get everybody on the train, hating everybody else on the train. And even the guys in the group, I think, you know, trying to hate each other. And he said, he's just an old man. He likes to just mix it up with everybody. He just took delight in that.
Starting point is 01:31:48 And that's who Trump reminds me of whenever I see him. He will sow division and discord and anger. Even when there's no reason to, he'll do it. Because it always puts him in the catbird seat. And now as he gets more and more powerful, what is happening? He's getting, all of his faults are getting magnified. And all the faults of the big conservative media are getting magnified as well. And then you see somebody like this, and I'm not even going to mention their names,
Starting point is 01:32:16 because I don't want to give them any publicity. But they have focused on being influencers. And they said this, they said, influencers that turn on Trump over his positive vaccine comments aren't special. You're not special. I never said I was special. These are two young Hispanic girls,
Starting point is 01:32:45 and they envision themselves as having a career as influencers. You know, that's the thing. You can make a lot of money as an influencer. I don't know if you know that or not. You have these situations where if they want to sell products, they'll go to somebody that, you know, whatever they're doing, basically they're playing the same game that the BBC did with Big Brother, brother right you live a life of exhibitionism and if you're lucky a lot of people like to watch you and if you get this following then you can sell them stuff right it's perverse it's just perverse
Starting point is 01:33:19 um so it's just and so but they can make a lot of money if they become an influencer and tick tock or social media of any sort. And so they aspire to be influencers. What an empty vapid life that must be. Well, they make a lot of money doing it. These two are not, they've only got about 24,000 followers or something. So, uh, they're influencer wannabes, but, um, they said, you're not special. If you don't like his positive vaccine comments if you're a one issue voter and an anti-vaccine absolutist then vote for
Starting point is 01:33:54 kennedy as that's the only thing he's got going on for himself okay well um here's here's my one i'm sorry they don't have 24 they got 21 000 followers um but oh no no that's how many views they got they had 24 000 followers they got 21 000 views and and so these people are being promoted to me to me they didn't comment on anything that i put there they were not taking issue with me, although they would if they saw what I had there. But, you know, to get, you have 24,000 followers and you get 21,000 views? I think Elon Musk is featuring them.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Why? Why? Why feature vapid cheerleaders who want to be influencers? John Stewart and Steven Levitsky talking about how the Constitution is a problem. This article from Information Liberation, John Stewart talking to a Harvard professor, Steven Levitsky. Stewart asked, is the Constitution the document that actually got us into this mess? Levitsky said, it's done us a lot of good, but it is part of the problem today.
Starting point is 01:35:08 And he's upset about the Electoral College. But I imagine he's got a lot of grievances with the Constitution if he's from Harvard. So he said, we have a Constitution that protects and enables and that empowers an authoritarian minority party. And that's a problem you know tyranny of the minority you mean like black lives matter something like that uh he says first of all it was a document created by people who feared democracy that's about the only thing i agree with him on yes they did fear democracy. They feared mob rule. And so it wasn't that they wanted to put a minority in power.
Starting point is 01:35:53 It's that they wanted to protect individual rights because we are all a minority of one, aren't we? And so we have a democratic republic. And actually this idea of saying we're going to have a rule of law, we're going to have people that we have some way of choosing them, but then we're going to delegate that to them. I mean, that's really the principle behind having congressmen, having senators and things like that. And it's the principle behind the Electoral College. They never set up a system where we would directly vote for the president. We would vote for people who presumably kind of knew who these other people were and would make some kind of judgment about that on their own based on their superior experience that they have that we cannot all have because
Starting point is 01:36:31 we're not there. Because if you don't have that, then what you wind up with is not just a democracy, but you have demagoguery as well, which is what we are suffering under. And so he says, so was this a compromise stewart says was this a compromise of southern states is that it you know that's southern states we hate so much he goes well to smaller states because we don't all want to be ruled by new york and la and chicago and if we don't have something like the uh electoral, as I've mentioned many times, that would be the result of it. So I'm going to take a quick break and we're going to come back.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Before I do, I want to thank James. Thank you very much for the tip on Rockfin. Christopher Mincy says, in 2016, my son nearly died from the RotaTek vaccine. He had an aneurysm. I'm sorry. I'm glad that he didn't die but yeah it's it's they don't and i've contrasted this you know you can contrast it the covid vaccine to some of these other uh dangerous vaccines or things like that but but look at the difference uh between the way they
Starting point is 01:37:37 they treat some of these products and the preferential treatment and just ignoring it when it comes to these pharmaceutical drugs. On Rockfin, Gordon Schwamway says, Well, Vladimir Putin, I have a question for you. If you're so anti-globalist agenda, why have you developed a Sputnik V vaccine that is becoming the most popular globally? I don't think he is again. That's another one of these things, right?
Starting point is 01:38:02 Look, we're supposed to believe that, you know, you got NATO and, um, you know, uh, the U S on this side and on the other side, you got Russia and China. China has been the playpen for the globalist for, since the 1970s and Kissinger, the opening up to China. What did they do immediately? They started doing their population control. And in response, we shut down our industry and continued to move it there. First, with preferential tariffs, allowing them to use copyright theft, slave labor, currency manipulation in order to drive our businesses out of business.
Starting point is 01:38:42 Now, they're just shutting down our energy supply while they still allow china to have that so china is part of the globalist agenda you know there's not it's not us against china this is you know the hegelian dialectic so that they can destroy everything and build their new world and and russia is the same way i don't i don't cheer uh putin at all as a matter of fact i've played clips of Putin, you know, when he, before they set him up as the professional wrestling heel. They had him going around and singing. I found my thrill on blueberry hill and all the stars really loved it. He was their guy. I mean, he was almost as good as the rapist Kevin Spacey.
Starting point is 01:39:30 But we'll be right back. If you like the Eagles, the Cars, and Huey Lewis and the News, they say the hard rock and roll is competing. You'll love the Classic Hits channel at APS Radio. Download our app or listen now at APSradio.com. Using free speech to free minds it's the david knight show some more bumpers with some jazz stuff in it yeah i gotta say this uh coming up on sunday is um the 50th anniversary of our first date uh and karen and i as i mentioned this before our first date was on saint patrick's day and i went with a couple of other guys i've been in bands with and uh
Starting point is 01:40:31 um there was a guy that we knew that had been uh been my junior high school band director and um and he was a really good musician he played um uh he played bassoon in the symphony orchestra, which I think makes you a nervous wreck if you play one of those things. It's like an oboe, right? The old joke, what's the difference between an oboe and an onion? Nobody cries when you chop up an oboe. You certainly do fret the entire time. It's like, is this this thing gonna work this time uh but he played clarinet with a dixieland jazz band and so we all went there for our first date
Starting point is 01:41:11 and that will be 50 years this sunday um so anyway um let's talk a little bit about artificial intelligence a company called physical intelligence is building a brain for robots. This is from Bloomberg. This is another one of these, you know, gee whiz articles. Most of them are, by the way. Robots can build cars and factories. They can clean up after us at home. Yeah, well, we've got a Roomba-like thing, and I get so frustrated with it. It's like there's – and we got that because we've got a bunch of dogs,
Starting point is 01:41:41 and so we've got lots of hair issues all the time. So I was like we need to have something going to constantly do this stuff well you get it and there's a clump of hair that just fell off a scout it's sitting there and this thing will you know dance around it and i'll say no no just go right there go get and just get fed up with it so i go get the vacuum cleaner and i vacuum it up so so much for cleaning up after us at home. Um, but they're able to carry out relatively small range of tasks compared to the increasingly general nature of chat bots. They said,
Starting point is 01:42:11 yeah, the chat bots are so great. Just, just wait till you give these things arms and legs and they start hallucinating. Uh, it's going to be a real interesting, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:42:21 Uh, a startup called physical intelligence has set out to alter the situation formed this year by a team of robotics and AI experts. The company plans to create software that can add high level intelligence to a wide variety of robots and machines. We aim to bring AI to the physical world with a universal model that can power any robot or any physical device, basically for any application and accept,
Starting point is 01:42:43 you know, they're really behind. There's a lot of people who are out there ahead of them as a matter of fact um this um this human this is a company called figure and they have cut a deal with open ai and they've started, uh, manufacturing robots and, you know, open AI is kind of the brain for it. And, uh, it can be a little bit, you'll, you'll notice when we're, I'll play this video for you. And it's, it's back and forth. A couple of things are really amazing to me. Number one, you know, for years, like I said, we'll go up in Florida, only about 50 minutes away from Disney world. So, uh, we would go there frequently it was free admission
Starting point is 01:43:26 in the early days anyway but we go on these rides or see these other things and you know you've seen the animatronic stuff and you know how stiff and jerky this is very fluid movement very agile and it's not just you know running through pre-programmed movements and everything uh but it is a little bit slow it does hesitate and then it talks and um as it's doing things and you'll notice that they even put like a little stutter in there or they put like some california affectations to me oh yeah sure yeah watch this or what you know you'll notice this when you watch. The little hesitations that it has to think about something for a moment before it does it, that's going to go away with Moore's Law. All they need is, you know, this continually faster and faster hardware. That's an incremental thing that's been going on now for decades.
Starting point is 01:44:17 So that's going to, Moore's Law is going to take care of the pause. The key thing is that it can do the right action here. So here's a little demo. No eyes, just a black face. Hey, figure one, what do you see right now? Pauses. I see a red apple on a plate in the center of the table, a drying rack with cups and a plate,
Starting point is 01:44:45 and you standing nearby with your hand on the table. Great. Can I have something to eat? It's even got a little bit of raspy voice. Sure thing. Sure thing. Yeah. California.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Great. Can you explain why you did what you just did while you pick up this trash? On it. So I gave you the apple. On it. Because it's the only edible item I could provide you with from the table. Great. So based on the scene right now, where do you think the dishes in front of you go next? The dishes on the table, like that plate and cup, are likely to go into the drying rack next. Great, can you put them there?
Starting point is 01:45:46 Of course. Alright, so how do you think you did i i think i did pretty well the apple found its new owner the trash is gone and the tableware is right where it belongs i agree thanks figure one you're welcome if there's anything else you need help with just let me know yeah so you notice that he's got the little affectations uh well i yeah yeah i think i did pretty good you know and he's got the little raspy voice and everything now here's another picture of it uh walking and picking up a container and putting it on a conveyor belt at this point uh it is tethered
Starting point is 01:46:42 but of course we have seen that with boston dynamics it's going to it is tethered. But, of course, we have seen that with Boston Dynamics. It's going to escape the tether pretty soon. Humanoid robot maker figure has announced a new deal with ChatGPT. The company recently closed a $675 million round of funding. That's about how much Trump got to buy all of his casinos to bail them out. And he, you know, at a 14% interest rate. I don't think they're that stupid. But anyway, a $2.6 billion valuation resulted.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Notable backers include Amazon founder Bezos, Microsoft, and AI chip maker NVIDIA. So he's able to walk, as you see there, pick up plastic crate, able to put it on a nearby conveyor belt. The CEO last month also had a video of this thing making coffee. He called it groundbreaking. And he said it learned all the steps to making coffee in one go. Figure is far from alone in the space as i point out there's another company that is um you know going to um going to do that hasn't done it tesla has also got its optimus robot which
Starting point is 01:47:52 looked very much like this and a black face right uh designed to be capable performing tasks that are unsafe repetitive or boring says musk agility robots is also looking at opening up a factory full of robots so they're focused on having a bunch of robots under control simultaneously within a factory um sam altman uh again this is the robot the company uh figure that is connected to open AI, which Sam Altman has taken over. It was going to be an open source AI thing. Now he's turned it over into his particular thing. And so he did an interview and they asked him, is AI a tool or a creature? And he said, well, he said,
Starting point is 01:48:45 the biggest misconception about AI, I think, is that there's confusion about whether AI is thought of as a tool or a creature. It's a better movie plot if it's a creature in a sci-fi movie. For example, if you use ChatGPT, it is clearly a tool. There's still risks with tools, of course,
Starting point is 01:49:01 but they're of a different shape and a different kind of profile. And I think the popular misconception of AI as sci-fi is very, very different from people who've been using it as a tool for a long time. And by the way, I think it's great that what we're building is like a tool, because if you give humans better tools, they do these amazing things to surprise you on the upside. And that builds all this new value for all of us. Well, this tech magazine is not convinced. They said, let's be real, though. It's a convenient narrative at the moment,
Starting point is 01:49:40 but more and more concern about whether open AI and the greater AI industry are poised to replace jobs the idea of ai as a tool that can help people do their jobs better like a personal computer is much less scary than the idea of ai as an autonomous entity that can do your job instead of you, instead of you. And then, of course, the connections to the government, the military industrial complex, that's the key thing as well. And even beyond that physical aspect, as I pointed out yesterday, when you look at the potential for abuse in terms of speech and narrative and censorship and propaganda and all the rest of
Starting point is 01:50:27 this stuff. Its ability to censor, its ability to surveil us, its ability to propagandize us, all this stuff is truly frightening. And that's just the chat GPT stuff. You don't even have to give it arms and legs. So then the other company, Agility, is creating an army of humanoid robots. And this is the company, if you find that, Travis, pull it up and show the picture of the robot. I've shown this robot walking around the factory before. This is the one that has kind of like the insect legs that bend backwards. And I always thought it was really interesting and i when it first came out and i saw that it's like whoa uh and i i played the clip from the charlie sheen sci-fi
Starting point is 01:51:12 movie the arrival and in that you had uh these um these aliens that would uh you know be able to put on uh flesh and appear to be humans but then when they wanted to do something like run really fast or jump or whatever they would kind of pause and their knees would bend backwards and you know they that's how they identified them as aliens i thought it was kind of interesting that's a movie from 1996. i thought that's kind of interesting that uh here we are you know uh two or three decades later they how did they know that this was going to be a very effective way for these robotics companies to have uh their uh their factory workers legs operate isn't that interesting uh there it is you see? It's a little bit hard to see because the lower part of the leg is chrome.
Starting point is 01:52:09 But that's what they look like. And that one, they've got two lights on the head and they make those lights blink. You know, again, these little touches to make it to anthropomorphize it, right? Make it feel a little bit human. They said, I think we're the first humanoid
Starting point is 01:52:24 robot vendor to have a solution in the factory front. Agility envisions ultimately very large deployments into the hundreds. And of course, the purpose of that is strictly to take jobs.
Starting point is 01:52:39 Everybody's concerned about the immigrants. The immigrants are here for friction. The immigrants are here for divide and conquer. The immigrants are not here to take for friction. The immigrants are here for divide and conquer. The immigrants are not here to take your job. The robots are here to take your job. And they've arrived with agility, with figure. So they're going to take your job while they have the humans fighting amongst ourselves because there's different languages and different cultures and all the rest of this stuff.
Starting point is 01:53:04 And it truly is a diabolical plot. How do we get out of this? Well, first of all, one of the ways that we stop this division is we have to stop their narrative of trying to divide people. How do you unite people? Well, the only way I know of, of uniting really disparate people, people that are very, very different from each other, the only way I know of doing that is through the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. And I'm serious about that. Don't just say, oh, no, it really does. We've seen this over and over again. When people realize that we're all created in the image of God
Starting point is 01:53:48 and we're directly, you know, we're different from animals, we're different from machines because we're created by God. And because we're created by God, we have individual rights. That is the essence. That's what that lady with Politico was focused on. She tried to say that's a hallmark of Christian nationalism. Well, it is a common belief. It was a common belief for the people who founded this country and helped to unite people.
Starting point is 01:54:13 So we need to be looking at ways that we can get past that. We need to understand that divisions between people are based on borders. They're based on different languages. They're based on culture. But they're not based on different languages. They're based on culture, but they're not based on things like skin color. God didn't make different races. There's one race, the human race, and he's made us all of one blood. And if we don't understand that, we will be fighting against each other and we'll be easily pitted against each other by the politicians.
Starting point is 01:54:48 So you got Yuval Harari again speaking up, and this guy is definitely not about humanity. He is one of the, like I said, always whenever I see him, I get encouraged because when I see rabid atheists like Yuval Harari, and he knows very well. Yeah, he's Jewish he knows the Hebrew uh knows Genesis and so he knows what he's fighting against he actively opposes it uh and so he goes on with Stephen Colbert who says um do we need to um teach our young people
Starting point is 01:55:22 anything now that AI is here? I mean, can't we all just sit here and let it do everything for us? Do we need to learn anything? That's what I was talking about at the end of the show yesterday, this AI nihilism, right? The idea, well, I'm not going to bother to learn how to do this because the next rev of chat GPT or whatever it is is going to be able to do it for me, so I'll just wait. I don't really have to learn how to do.
Starting point is 01:55:47 I don't have to learn how to code. I don't learn how to build things. I don't need to learn how to fix things. I don't need to know any music or art. I don't need to know how to do video editing. I'll just have the thing do it for me. You know, the thing, it'll do it. That is one of the most dangerous aspects of this,
Starting point is 01:56:06 the pacification of people, literally turning us into Eloy as imagined by HG Wells and his time machine, turning us into helpless little things on the shelf who do nothing but set back to be waited on. And that's what Stephen Colbert would like to have. And so he says, Colbert went on to say, well, I'm not worried about AI. And he said, man has been really terrible at governing and controlling ourselves. He said, Colbert said, I'm ready for the big machines that make big decisions programmed by fellows with
Starting point is 01:56:46 compassion and vision. They always sell you a dystopia by selling you a utopia, don't they? And he's such a disgusting shill, isn't he? This is what he was doing to poison people. Yeah. Now he's pushing ai i'll have the opposite of what that guy is having uh anyway harari said well not really he said it is extremely dangerous to give up power to something that we don't yet understand then cobert argues with him he no, AI is no different than us. And the two are quite alike because we made them.
Starting point is 01:57:27 Harari was still a bit tepid about fully embracing AI as the new God. He said, well, the one thing to know about AI, the most important thing to know about AI, it's the first technology in history that can make decisions by itself, can create new ideas by itself. People compare it to the printing press, to the atom bomb. No, it's completely different. Does it really? Does it really, Yuval? Does it really create new ideas by itself?
Starting point is 01:57:54 Yesterday, we had a new release, for example, of that program, SORA, the Artificial Intelligence Program, that came up with some really amazing stuff. Yeah, there were some minor flaws in it, but it was really pretty good when they showed it a few months ago. So they came up with like another 10 videos or something. And then the woman who is the CEO for this thing had an interview, and she was asked, where did you get this information for these videos? Oh, I'm sorry. Here is the actual, that's, she was,
Starting point is 01:58:27 she was mocked about that a lot, but here's where she's talking about, I'll explain this picture here in a moment. Here's where she talks about training it. What data was used to train Sora? We used publicly available data and license data. So videos on YouTube? I'm actually not sure about that. Okay. Videos from Facebook, Instagram? You know, if they were publicly available, publicly available to use, there might be the be the data, but, um, I'm not sure. I'm not confident about it.
Starting point is 01:59:09 What about Shutterstock? I know you guys have a deal with them. I'm just not going to go into the details of the data that was, that was used, but it was publicly available or licensed data. Oh, well, yeah. And that's why this, this face that I put up there, you know, she's, Ooh, you know, kind of grimaces. Oh, well, yeah. And that's why this face that I put up there, you know, she's kind of grimaces. Oh, I don't know. Because again, it's not creating new ideas by itself. It's not creating new stuff. It is combining other stuff and it is combining things that people have done. Did you scrape this off of YouTube? Did you scrape it off of Facebook and Instagram? Did you get it off of Shutterstock,
Starting point is 01:59:47 you know, licensed stuff that you might have paid them for because the other stuff you're just ripping it off? I'm not going to say. You notice that she didn't say, well, it thinks on its own. It creates its own ideas. She didn't say that. She had ample opportunity to say that, but she knows that it's not doing that. And because it doesn't do that, as I said before, because AI is depending on us, on humans, for its existence. Once it gets to the point where it starts consuming the product of other AI, then it really starts to get bad. Because then it gets kind of like a mad cow disease. You know, when cows eat other cows, they get mad cow disease.
Starting point is 02:00:26 When humans cannibalize other humans, they get Yakov Kreutzfeld. I think that's the way it's pronounced. They get that. Well, you know, AI gets that as well. Wine Press says this is the same Harari who has claimed that AI has made a lot of people redundant and are now part of a useless class society. He's also said that AI should and will be used to rewrite a new Bible. He would like to rewrite a new Bible.
Starting point is 02:00:55 He would like to create a new God. He would like to be God, right? And he thinks that people are useless. That's why I said before, we have to understand that nobody is useless. Everybody's got a different kind of intelligence. You know, some people have an intelligence where they can do artistic things or they can write. Other people may not be able to express ideas at all or speak, but they're mechanical geniuses. They can fix anything. They can take it apart and put it back together again. That's a different
Starting point is 02:01:21 kind of intelligence. There's so many different kinds of intelligence, and there's so many variations and combinations of those types of intelligence with people. It's one of the reasons why, again, we have to go back to the idea that people are created in the image of God. There's something unique about each and every one of us. That's the argument that we have against abortion that's the argument we have against artificial intelligence uh it's the argument we have against euthanasia everything in between we're going to take a quick break and when we come back we have a very special guest who's going to be joining us again uh and um a navy seal and we're going to talk to him about his perspective on what is happening at the border what is happening happening in Ukraine and many other issues.
Starting point is 02:02:07 So stay with us. We will be right back. Whether you're feeling like the blues or bluegrass, APS Radio has you covered. Check out a wide variety of channels on our app at APSradio.A. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ you're listening to the david knight show all right welcome back and joining us now is um drago and uh his Navy SEAL name, very interesting background. I've had him on before. We talked about his book, Pledge to America. He came to this country from Poland. And today we're going to talk about some other issues besides his background story. But his background story is truly amazing, how he came to America, how he volunteered after 9-11, and how he, at a pretty old age for Navy SEALs,
Starting point is 02:04:27 became a Navy SEAL and then continued as an instructor for quite a while. So joining us now is Drago. Thank you for joining us, sir. David, thank you for inviting me. Oh, always a pleasure to talk to you. Very interesting story. I loved your story and I loved your pledge to America. Let's talk a little bit.
Starting point is 02:04:50 We talked for a great deal of time. You said, yeah, I'd like to talk about what is really happening now in America. And we talked about your background. You said, I'd like to talk about what is going on now. And of course, a lot of things have happened since you've been on. I would like to get your take on what are the key issues in front of us right now when we look at something, for example, like Ukraine. How are you looking at this war now we've got so many people have said uh well i just let me let me get your take on it what is your take on what's going on with ukraine well first our administration needs to stop lying to us russ Russians are not losing the war. It's ridiculous. Ridiculing Russian forces is totally misplaced now. This is the worst propaganda that can happen. It's outright stupid. We have generals, our generals, repeating stories like that the Russians don't know that they are in the war, in combat. They think that the command't know that they are in the war in combat they think that the
Starting point is 02:05:45 command told them that they are going on exercise and they are on exercise you know what only imbecile could do is that this is being this is being uh repeated by not only generals but that would be press from the left and right that's that's absolutely not true and uh the russians know very well what they are what they are doing it is pretty deliberate they're not trying to take over at this time entire ukraine they just want to secure their interest but we need to Putin is not some kind of rogue idiot and somebody who doesn't know what he's doing. Yeah, that's our guy. That's our guy. He doesn't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 02:06:36 An idiot. So, yeah, I'm sorry. Go ahead. You know that. I wouldn't tell other guys. But, you know, it seems like they know what they do they just lie to us uh and basically they ruin entire they ruin ukraine with the stupid advices or stupid stupid moves up there uh please remember putin almost single-handedly rebuild Russian empire.
Starting point is 02:07:09 He is supported by 80% of his population. And also what we are not being told, or we are ignored, that Russia is no longer a communist state. They have the same oligarchs like we have here, like we have Romney, like we have john carey that's not different um the so that war did not have to happen and president trump is absolutely right uh but when we start uh uh talking about ukraine membership in NATO, of course, Russians don't want to have NATO directly on their borders. So that was one of the accelerators to the war.
Starting point is 02:07:59 And then please remember, there was agreement signed between Ukraine and Russia and then Great Britain that idiot, what's his name uh for joe borsh johnson yeah so that buzzer when indian cancelled everything for ukraine and russia so now we are in war but again are not losing please remember that uh ukrainians lost over 400,000 people in combat. For a small nation, this is not really something that you can ignore. That's right. And so now, today, the average age of Ukrainian soldier is between 40 and 50 years old. You see, I went to the region quite a few times.
Starting point is 02:08:42 And I had a chance to speak to my Ukrainian friends. i had a chance to spoke to my ukrainian friends i had the chance to speak to i had a chance to speak to my ukrainian friends polish friends germans french french uh and and the consensus people who are there who understand what's going on is we are in the wrong place and wrong time. Oh, I absolutely agree. I agree. From the very beginning of this, you know, you talked about how many Ukrainian casualties they had. I remember at the very beginning of this, there was some Indian generals who were talking about the military aspects of it.
Starting point is 02:09:16 And they weren't on either side, really. They were just kind of third-party observers. And they said, it looks like the plan is to fight them until the last ukrainian and that appears to be the plan uh they don't they're using these people as surrogates we had chris christie when he was running he said well i think that's fine uh you know look at how how much we've cost the russians i think we need to double down and do even more of this stuff i mean it's like they have absolutely no regard for human life they have absolutely no concern about a broader escalated war and I think yeah this administration with their advisors and with their ideas ruin Ukraine
Starting point is 02:09:55 please remember the Soviet Union is no longer socialist state they kicked out communism to the curb a long time ago. Now, there is a large contribution to this is coming from President Putin. He basically made Russians free again. Yes, there will be always 5% to 15% of society, just like in our society, that will oppose and they will revolt and they will not agree with what I'm saying. But in general, he's supported by almost or over 80% of his population.
Starting point is 02:10:35 And you can see it. Russians love their country. What we must also remember, which is very important, and I think it is very important that Russians are very patriotic. Yes. Their idea in their society is Russia first. Well, here you try to see America first, you see what happens. This is how awkward it is. And this is why we just trying to bring NATO
Starting point is 02:11:09 into this conflict now, now I think is totally ridiculous and seems like this administration is gunning for the war, for the major wider war. Sending troops to Ukraine right now is basically fighting by our regular unions fighting russians and that this will lead to to escalations and they will lead to major war
Starting point is 02:11:33 not only your in europe but they might just we might have funds attacked in our own soil so we need to understand that uh and again uh russians don't hate their country yeah yeah and this is something by the administration doesn't want people to know that's right uh and the thing about this conflict is uh food control food food supplies please remember that russia is that i mean ukraine is known as a food by a bread basket of europe these fertile grounds can feed entire europe and still serve with so much surplus that is being sent to africa so i would just i i look it up some of the statistics here and uh most of this these lands are no longer owned by ukrainians they owned by western entities so somebody is vaying for control of the food supplies in europe so let's take a look here the kernel company i was by luxembourg, registered in Luxembourg, owns 360,000 hectares, not acres,
Starting point is 02:12:50 hectares. The company is owned by 90% by oligarch, I think, Wierenski, his name, and other US banks and funds. Ukraland Farming. and funds uh ukra uh ukra land farming no one knows who owns it but there is almost 60 670 000 of acres uh nobody knows really who owns it because all financial data and servers were destroyed mhp cyprus company with 340 000 hectares tna corporation corporate u.s company with 200 000 hectares nch company u.s company with 200 000 hectares pif saudi arabia astrata holland from holland so most of the uh majority of profit does not go to kiev it goes it's busy it's being transferred overseas and if ukraine would join uh western would come in closer ties with western countries
Starting point is 02:14:00 those land would be controlled not by uk Ukrainians but would be controlled by whoever is trying to gain control of food supply food supplies for Europe but you can just see how this structure but Ukrainians don't own it anymore most of it is owned by overseas and profit goes overseas again uh we are President Biden I was listening to his disastrous state of the Union, and he says we need to send money, more money to Ukraine. That's only imbecile can say, because not understanding that Ukraine needs not so much money as people to fight the war. Yeah. money as people to fight the war yeah i guess like i said earlier they they their average
Starting point is 02:14:49 age of uh the average age of ukrainian soldiers between 40 50 years old they don't have enough they are actually snatching people over the street and pulling them in in the army kids old people so the average between 50 and 60 so think who is that that's just a medium what's the oldest people right now snatched into the army and serving so they they they the equipment even if they get it they don't have people to to to to operate this unless this is uh u.s and the western entities that comes in and there. Hopefully they are not the regular forces because it will escalate. Putin is not bluffing.
Starting point is 02:15:31 We are. We have nothing to bug us up. We cannot sustain prolonged expanded deployment to Europe. We can barely sustain what we have now. And now please remember too that
Starting point is 02:15:46 our recruitment is down and there were the people are Army it is not only Army that we there was so widely publicized but it's also in the Navy and Air Force this in Marines so now we have one side with very patriotic, pro-their-country people, agrosians, who will not back down. And then we have here people who refuse to fight for our country because they were told in universities and schools that we are racist, we are bad, we shouldn't exist. And the division which was created recently within the last four, eight, ten years,
Starting point is 02:16:30 dividing us again between black and white and between this, between that. You know what? I remember when I joined the Navy, the first thing that we were told is that we all have one color it is red white and blue yes we don't look at each other on black white yellow pink we just wear red and blue this is color of our hearts and then and we have only one country so now think about it how i don't think
Starting point is 02:17:01 as very strong as very strong now because we have in our Congress we have people who have no loyalty or very or double loyalty to they have loyalty to America and Somalia or other countries why we have people with dual citizenship
Starting point is 02:17:18 in our government yes we need to ask ourselves. And you look at what is happening at West Point. I talked about this yesterday. They want to get rid of duty, honor, and country. And it's like, what's wrong with those three things, right? We're going to replace it with Army values.
Starting point is 02:17:33 And one of the things that they say in that is, well, you know, even more as much as the duty, honor, country is the fact that the original pledge or what motto, whatever whatever it was but it was a paragraph that they had this the cadets memorized and in it they were saying service to our country you know in the army and that through the army or whatever now it is service to the army and to our country whatever so it's more focused on this bureaucratic institution than it is on serving the country to me that is as significant as the fact that you'd remove duty, honor, and country. I mean, which of those words, or is it all three that they object to?
Starting point is 02:18:13 I'm not really sure. There's a trend. I think everybody can see it now. That's right. All the universities and even the academies, yeah. Yeah. Remove any national cohesions. Remove any patriotic feelings.
Starting point is 02:18:30 Basically, I think the ultimate goal is just what happened in Europe, and I'll just come back to it in a second, to get rid of the citizenship, rid of national pride. And basically we're just dwellers. So we will not be Americans living in America. We will be just
Starting point is 02:18:53 dwellers living in America. I had a conversation with a German friend. So when we talked, I said, so you Germans, don't call us Germans. This is offensive. I'm European. I'm a member of European Union. German is a right wing propaganda and right wing term. So you must not call me a German. I'm offended.
Starting point is 02:19:20 So yeah. But you see our direction with this going here pretty much the same thing so this this administration is is disastrous but um i would like to say just because it really bothers me when i look at my country my america i see that never in the history of civilization has a nation declined more economically, politically, socially, militarily, morally, and globally over such a short span of time as the United States of America, since Biden took office. I mean, think what is happening. We have perverts in our schools pole dancing to our kids and reading them books in schools and libraries. Perverts. Pornographic books.
Starting point is 02:20:13 Yes. And if you speak out against it, you are the extremist. Exactly. And we have men masquerading as women frequenting our daughters wives bathrooms you know you know stripes on the zebra doesn't make it a horse you can put wig and lipstick on yourself you are still man you still have eggs there are difference between xx and xy chromosomes you can't transmute one into another so you either wear a man or woman you cannot there is no such thing like transitioning you don't transition to anything you just wear the wig and lipstick that's it that's right and what has to believe one has to believe that you are a woman you know it becomes so perverted so sick that nowadays young generations, boy, at least I teach my son, before you start
Starting point is 02:21:08 dating a girl, you need to ask, have you always been a girl? Because people might find out that that is not the case and you just ruin your life. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, if somebody wants to, you see, I fought for this right. If a man wants to go and wear the dress, lipstick, and wig, call himself a woman, more power to him. I don't really care, you know. But start harassing my kids in the bathroom.
Starting point is 02:21:39 Then when we start pushing the mutilation on our children and the surgeries, the sex change and life-altering surgeries, that's evil. That's pure evil. And it is interesting. I just talked about it yesterday. The suicide rates doubled after what they call their vaginoplasty and everything. And that was part of the rationale for taking away parental rights. And, you know, the parental rights attack has been there for a very long time. It was nearly 20 years ago.
Starting point is 02:22:30 I was doing videos for the Children's Health Defense Organization as a spinoff called parental rights.org and they were trying to get in a constitutional amendment for parental rights because the un had a convention on the rights of the child and every month every other country on earth had signed on to it except for the united states but in the united states is being pushed through with activist judges and at some local political levels and and that didn't happen but now it is happening you know that has been there cooking under the surface and they've been kind of subtly preparing things and now all of a sudden boom it burst onto the scene and a very rapid expansion and it's been there for quite some time they've been talking about you know all this even going back before the rhetoric of uh hillary clinton and it takes a village they were they've been working for decades on undermining parental rights because they wanted to get straight to the kids.
Starting point is 02:23:08 It is one step at a time. But you see what happened, the whole process accelerated because these goons, that cabal was exposed by President Trump. They don't have much time. People are waking up. So they need to do as much damage as possible the damage that may not be able may not be able to undo and again this is not democrats versus republicans and vice versa this is good versus evil we have plenty of evil in both parties
Starting point is 02:23:39 for example murkowski roomie lee's cheney that dude swallow well sleeping with Chinese spy with the prostitutes yeah uh and he's still in our government yeah so we have a Ike for me he is as good as a spy you know so swallow well who sleeps with the prostit Chinese spies prostitutes we have a Schumer we have a jihadis in our Congress like Omar and Tlaib. We cannot move forward to fix our country until as long as we tolerate evil. And those are evil people. There's more of them. I agree.
Starting point is 02:24:16 Before we get any further, I want to talk to you about the border and things like that. But before we leave Europe and Ukraine, you know, we've looked at this. And from the very beginning, I was saying it. Gerald Slenty, who's a regular on the program, was saying, you're not going to beat Russia. I mean, they defeated Napoleon. They defeated Hitler, and that wasn't that long ago. And as you're talking about, it's a gigantic country. People are very patriotic.
Starting point is 02:24:39 They're very happy with the changes that Putin has made. And so you're not going to be able to defeat them and that type of thing. But, you know, what is it your judgment that this is a deliberate setup, a deliberate provocation? Because three years before this began, you had an interview with, and of course, this all really kind of goes back to the coup in 2014. But, you know, Zelensky ran for, on a platform of peace, and he had a guy, I don't know if you're familiar with him, Alexander Arestovich. And he was eventually kicked out because one of these, one of these bombs that hit an apartment building, he said, well, he told the truth. He said, no, it was hit by some of our anti-aircraft stuff, and then it veered into the building.
Starting point is 02:25:30 It wasn't necessarily a target of this thing. And so they fired him. But he was also very candid three years in advance. He was their guy they sent to the peace process. And he came back and did an interview with Ukrainian television, and she said, what's the prospect for peace? He said, none. Oh, that's terrible.
Starting point is 02:25:47 He goes, oh, it gets worse. We're going to have a full-on war with Russia in three years, in 2022. And she said, that's horrible. And he goes, yeah, the whole country is going to be devastated. But he goes, the good part of it is we get into NATO. It seems to me, looking at it, I'd like to get your take on it. It seems to me like this was a long-term plan that they had. And what do you think?
Starting point is 02:26:09 Is their plan to continue to escalate this so they can have a direct war with Russia? Do they really want a world war? What do you think? I don't think there was a plan at the time, the time you mentioned, to start a war with Russia. I think they was just trying to bring Ukraine into NATO. They knew that Russia would oppose, so they were just trying to backdoor to different ways.
Starting point is 02:26:33 Basically, our administration and Western Europe instigated this entire affair. They were hoping they could bluff and they could scare Russia and they could hoping that you can bluff and they can scare Russia and they can bring Ukraine in they wanted didn't happen Russia went and took it what they
Starting point is 02:26:50 believe that's please see now I mean they are in state of war Ukraine is not a joint NATO it's not going to join the NATO unless we start the full scale world with Russia And Russia is no longer that backwards communist state it used to be. We will be fighting very modern well-equipped Russia and we are not prepared. Look at our forces. Now they are more concerned with the perverts in military. They are more concerned with pronouns than with our fighting force. I mean, we are disintegrating.
Starting point is 02:27:32 Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that officer, the space cadet who was saying, we're going to get our pronouns right just a couple of weeks ago. It truly is ludicrous. And yet, you know, they talk about the domino theory. And yet, if you're the Russian people, you're the Russian side, you look at all these different countries that are coming in and joining NATO. And, you know, they're adding more that haven't done Ukraine yet.
Starting point is 02:27:55 You know, they've added, what was it, Finland and Sweden and things like that. You look at it and it's like, well, that looks like a domino theory. It looks like, you know, it looks like somebody is on the move and somebody is getting aggressive and it's like what is even the message uh the the meaning of nato uh before this all this stuff began i mean is there really why did they need to even continue nato and why are they expanding nato so rapidly what do you think i don't think nato may survive this escalation here they're not necessarily even the war because what i suspect what is going to happen the russians just get tired they still try to make uh they try to negotiate that's true they still try to make it somehow amicable well it is
Starting point is 02:28:43 not good it's not going to happen under this administration so Russia's finally say they will get tired they will just take what they need to take we are bluffing we are not be able to do anything up there so I I think we are in a very bad spot but please remember um this is the same cabal i'm talking about this administration this is the same cabal that gave us benghazi oh yeah they more they more their ambassador our ambassador they killed two of my teammates this is the same cabal that fled afghanistan they fled in such a hurry they left thousands of our and Ally citizens in Taliban hands this is the same cabal trying to manage Ukraine is a joke and uh think about it who is running our country we have a mentally impaired man who is being led and guided by his
Starting point is 02:29:48 wife because he cannot make up the stage you think he's making any shots exactly exactly you know it's not fun to laugh at our president but it is quite and this quite sad that this elder with serious mental deficiency is being abused by his nefarious wife and his handlers. Those who enable it, they should be prosecuted for elder abuse. This man doesn't belong in the White House. He belongs in some care facility for elderly people now yeah this is how bad it is so you know it's just i think we need we need to change we need the real leadership in our country we need to go back to our values patriotism is not is is nothing wrong with being patriotic american but we are being now portrayed as the right-wing uh crazies you know if you are pro-america if you tell yourself proud american
Starting point is 02:30:56 citizen you are being called crazy and right-wing extremists i mean think about parents demanding real education for kids are being branded fbi as criminals you know weaponization of our state entities that's not different that the country i escaped from the same this is the same thing they will intimidate they will raid your families your home and to because you are inconvenient politically to the state to the system i mean we need to wake up because we are going the same path that russia went in 1917 the bolshevik revolution i agree so we are a dangerous spot we should worry less about ukraine and there's more about our southern border because um it's just it it it is crazy this is yeah let's talk about that let's let's talk about the border i'll just say this you know it's kind of like a lot of these things
Starting point is 02:31:57 sometimes there is a silver lining you know we had all the schools locked down and kids were doing zoom class and everything finally we got a chance for uh parents to actually see what was going on in their classroom i've had that conversation with people for 30 years and telling them what's happening oh but that's not in our school you know they could believe that it was coming out of the federal government they could believe that it was even a state government or or the that school board or whatever even maybe even in the same school but i got a good teacher in my classroom well the zoom stuff they could finally see that and the thing about biden i guess a silver lining for biden is people can look at biden and they can understand the president's not the one who's running the show there's somebody
Starting point is 02:32:38 behind him you know who are these people really who is the shadow government that's really running the the show here you know because it certainly isn't joe b shadow government that's really running the the show here you know because it certainly isn't joe biden so that's that's the only possibly good thing that coming out of this is that that kind of dispel that idea from people uh that he's the one in charge there is a cabal like you pointed out and it's the same people that gave us benghazi and the disaster in afghanistan and all these other things. But let's talk about... In Ukraine, yes. Sorry? In the disaster in Ukraine.
Starting point is 02:33:08 This disaster in Ukraine is not only a disaster for us and Western Europe. It's a disaster for Ukraine and even more. Because I don't know if this nation will be able to rebuild itself after what this administration did to it. Yes, yes. And again, that's another part of it. You know, when I look at something like this and and you you could you could look at the fact that you've got all of these big corporations that
Starting point is 02:33:30 are mysteriously operating as you point out we don't even know who has the the second largest holding there but um you know so so what is their goal is it just really to uh get monopoly pricing on this stuff and yet if that really was their goal uh why are they having monopoly pricing on this stuff. And yet, if that really was their goal, why are they having this war on this farmland there, especially when you have the possibility of having cluster bombs or you have depleted uranium, which pollutes the land forever, basically? Why would you destroy it? It seems to me like there's also an aspect of trying to destroy that farmland.
Starting point is 02:34:05 And it seems to me like a lot of these globalist cabals want to, just as they do in the Netherlands, they want to destroy the farms. They want to take them by, you know, putting the farmers off the land. They want to, you know, consolidate everybody in the little cities and control the food distribution, all the rest. Perhaps that's, what do you think, a motivation for what's going on in Ukraine as well, do you think? Well, it's not only in Ukraine, it's in our country too, in America, in Western Europe, and in Ukraine too. Ukraine is the most important part for them, because the entire fertile lands in Western Europe do not match the Ukrainian fertile lands.
Starting point is 02:34:46 The biggest, I think, food supply for entire Europe and Africa. So yeah, they want to take control of it. I don't know why they're ruining, destroying it or just having control of it, but this is not good. And the same thing is happening in our country too. You can see Chinese people,
Starting point is 02:35:02 I mean Chinese citizens, buying our lands, farmlands, as also our oligarchs too so and destruction of food uh infrastructure just like we saw in texas you know and all these other things happening uh and and so much of that stuff is happening you have to ask yourself is this a coincidence or is this a plan because they really do want to control our food supply and they want us buying their lab food that they are going to take control of and deliver to us as they see fit to do it. I think that's a big part of it. But let's talk about what's going on at the border, especially. Why isn't it that you've got all these people and I look at I get very frustrated. I hear
Starting point is 02:35:41 the Republicans talking about it, but they don't build a wall. They don't finish the wall. And then even when we look at what is happening in Texas, it is one city, Eagle Pass. They've got a big presence there, but you just go not even a mile away from it. Many reporters have gone, and there's nothing there, and there's wide open areas where anybody can come in. So there's a lot of theater that's going on with all this stuff. What do you think it's going to take to get this done, get control of the board? Well, before we think about what can be done, let's just try to think, ask the questions why it is being done. Yeah. I believe that ballot stuffing may not work this time.
Starting point is 02:36:20 The COVID virus may not work this time for democrats or for the cabal behind this uh behind it uh for water fraud may not work so the borders were open to the hordes the new scheme is to count non-citizen i call them biden's invaders for congressional seats and electoral votes. Democrats are also working to give Biden's invaders voting rights. Yes. So they count them as part of the census and then do the allocation for that. And so if they bring them in to these particular states, then all of a sudden they can inflate the number of congressmen coming from that state and they can pack the Congress. That's one way to do it. They always want to do that. FDR wanted to pack the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 02:37:05 These people talked about packing the Supreme Court. Well, they can pack the Congress as well and they can use foreign citizens here illegally to do that. Yes. And again, as I have seen in the communist country I escaped from, once socialists run the country, once they have established fraudulent elections, you will continue to have fraud during elections
Starting point is 02:37:25 because state entities will be like they are here now being weaponized, targeting political opponents. We see what is happening to President Trump right now. I mean, in my opinion, there is a bimbo, a prostitute who doesn't even remember when she was assaulted and how it happened. And she won what? Million dollar law millions dollar lawsuit there's not the criminal case so he's not that he's but but she she wanted
Starting point is 02:37:52 money for for what she doesn't even remember what happened but this is just the beginning of starting the socialist way of thinking. I think everybody sees that it is a selective prosecution on these cases, that it is politicized, that they have committed, in many cases, committed the same crimes, and there's not anything brought against them. So we understand this is a specialized, it's not even really a prosecution,
Starting point is 02:38:33 it's a persecution. They've taken the blindfold off of Lady Justice, and they're using laser focus to come after somebody that they believe is their political enemy. But that is happening to a lot of people, and there's so many different areas where this is happening, especially in speech and censorship. You're seeing people now in Europe being sent to prison. In Canada, they've got a bill to send people perhaps even to life in prison because of
Starting point is 02:39:01 speech issues, and to do it before they say anything. Do it in a pre-crime way i mean it truly is amazing there's so many different uh it's like shock and awe when i look at it you know hitting every hitting us with everything all at once everywhere uh to take away every foundation of the bill of rights and and everything else that western civilization has had and built uh over millennia see socialist democratic party uh right now is turning our country into something i escaped from and you can talk if you listen to immigrants who escape the totalitarian socialist countries uh that they are alarmed i mean i've on my account on on linkedin which is heavily
Starting point is 02:39:46 censored of course or facebook heavily censored uh i i have people calling me and uh and messaging me that they are scared because that is what they experience in former communist countries because you know what the the goal i think is not to make America communist state but the please remember that socialism and communism are excellent tools to control society so why not to implement I mean it will not succeed on the long run and it takes decades but it takes decades to free yourself from the yoke of communism and socialism if even possible
Starting point is 02:40:31 because if the technology that exists today existed in 1980s and 70s when I lived in a communist country these countries would stay communist people would not be able to do it themselves and I think that's their plan in a communist country, these countries would stay communist.
Starting point is 02:40:45 Yeah, I agree. People would not be able to do it themselves. And I think that's their plan. I think if they're looking at, you know, if you look at Strauss and Howe, people on this show, I talk about a great deal. The people who coined the term millennial or Gen Z and all this, everybody uses those terms, but they don't talk about the big picture that they were talking about, which is every four generations you have, the institutions are completely changed. It's almost always, well, it is always massive economic change, and it is usually accompanied with war.
Starting point is 02:41:15 And then you wind up with a society that, whether it's good or bad, the change, usually wind up with that for about 70 years. I think these people are expecting, you know, we're in that time right now. We're in the middle of a fourth generation where everything is turning. I think they believe that if they win this, they're going to be able to hold on to it longer than that with the tools that they've got. And as you point out, the people who have lived in it, they're sounding the alarm.
Starting point is 02:41:41 Rod Dreher wrote a book a few years ago saying, Live Not By Lies, which he quoted from Alexander Solzhenitsyn. He said, the reason I wrote this book is because I had friends whose parents escaped communism and they were freaking out. And they said, we're seeing exactly the same stuff we lived under. I talked to Xi Van Fleet, who got out of China. She grew up in China. And she said, all the same stuff that's being done in the schools now, she goes, it's not woke, it's Marxism.
Starting point is 02:42:08 And she wrote a book, Mao's America, Survivor's Warning to America. She said the anti-racism that you see, she said that was struggle sessions is what they called it in China, but it's exactly the same thing. And so they're using these same techniques because they work. It's just that simple. But they're going to also have the technology as a multiplier as well. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:42:29 You see, when I wrote my book, my intention was to showcase America as the most beautiful, powerful, unique, exceptional country with free free country so now but as a i wanted this book to be used as a press to see america this way through what the prism of socialism and communism how oppressive the socialism really is but now when people read it like i get also a lot of messages say hey would you describe in your book isn't something that's happening here in our country now yeah yes it is this is what really disturbs me it really sometimes scares me too so um again we are not socialist communist yet we just need to make we don't become one and this is why the processes are accelerating because there is
Starting point is 02:43:28 a man who exposed all these shenanigans and they may not have much time because once people see what it really is, nobody will follow it. Even now, the majority of our people do not support socialist
Starting point is 02:43:44 oppression, do not support communism socialist oppression do not support communism but we are being told by the manipulative fake news media that majority of people would like to have that socialist state which is absolutely not true but the same thing happened in communist poland where there's maybe 10 percent of people hardcore communists like my father, but the rest of the people love and hate communism and socialism. But when you read the fake news media in Poland, the communist times behind Iron Curtain, you would think that majority of Poles are loving that socialism and communism, because this is the way the propaganda works. This is why censorship is so important to
Starting point is 02:44:31 We saw that a lot in 2020. There were a lot of us, at least a third of us, who didn't want the mask, didn't want the lockdown, weren't afraid of the so-called pandemic and all the rest of the stuff, but we were led to believe that we were alone because it would cover up our stories and they would amplify the other side of this.
Starting point is 02:44:51 And so this has always been the case. And I'm sure, especially when you grew up in communist Poland, I know in Russia, they used to have two papers. They had Izvestia and Pravda, and one of them meant news. The other one meant truth. And they said there's no truth in Pravvda there's no news in this the people were not really fooled by it but they felt helpless and they really couldn't do anything about it and that's what solzhenitsyn would talk about in your experience you're you're growing up and you're a young person in poland your dad is a communist uh what was it that uh gave you the courage uh to go against this grain rather
Starting point is 02:45:27 than just going along you see i'm saying my father was a high-ranking communist uh in poland in polish government but i really didn't have much contact with him until i was uh 16 years old because of the poverty i had to be sent either to orphanage or to to live with my father and eventually father agreed to take me and i lasted only one year before he kicked me out but by this time my uh my ideals were shaped by my mother by my mother's family and uh so when i went up there the first question i asked him like so if uh if everybody loves socialism so much which i don't see among my friends but as my father but what about those people who do not support socialism and communism what about them well the answer was very quick and simple we need to eliminate them so and the way we say how well the first we're going to ban them,
Starting point is 02:46:27 we're going to cancel them, we're going to remove them from society, basically intellectually. So it happened, you know, the statues were removed. They did not support socialist ideology. The books were removed, libraries and banned. But but it's I say, well, OK, but what if they still don't like socialism well that is the final solution then we're not just physically exterminate them because they are in the way to uh of progress to socialism and communists they're such a great states so that was his ideas
Starting point is 02:47:01 my father's ideas that you know know, you try to convince them, but if they don't buy it, you arrest them, cancel them, put them in jails, and eventually that doesn't help, you just kill them. Yeah, and that's what we're seeing now with the speech stuff. You know, we've been shadow banned, we were overtly banned, and then now, you know, they are publicly humiliated. Now they want to start putting people in jail, and they are putting people in jail. They are putting people in jail. they are putting people in jail sorry we have political prisoners today these people sitting in the democrats dungeons in washington dc yeah i've just political prisoners i was in
Starting point is 02:47:37 communist state please remember one thing it is so vain the i mean i don't know even how they sold it to people governments cannot be overthrown by people waving hands and flags yeah and they to tell us that there was attempt those coup attempt and try to overthrow government our government by who people waving flags yes oh yeah oh yeah there was absolutely there was no way they were going to i i told people i said don't go as a trap because there's nothing you can do and you know they're not going to show up with weapons and have a shootout and they didn't show up with weapons and yet now they're gone to prison because they they construed it as if they had shown up with weapons or something and it is and it's's the power of the press to be able to spin a media, and it is this government that we have that is absolutely unashamed
Starting point is 02:48:34 to openly violate the Constitution and the rule of law. Absolutely. Let me tell you this. The president, by questioning election results, didn't commit any crime. Most of the people in our country now question these results. 81 million people for mentally deficient men who never even campaigned. I don't buy it. I don't believe it. For me, these elections in 2020 had all the hallmarks of socialist election socialist election this term is not
Starting point is 02:49:07 very well understood here it's not very common but it's very well understood in former communist countries socialist elections elections are the elections where communists and marxists always win though those are those we call socialist elections And these elections 2020 had all the hallmarks of socialist elections. Questioning and challenging the results of elections is not a crime. It is only a crime in communist countries or Nazi, fascist countries, and countries run by communists like my father so that saying that we have an insurrection is a hoax is another hoax and is a nonsense i've seen insurrections i've been i live in poland when czechoslovakia 1968 happened that was tongues and guns being used yeah people with flags waving hands
Starting point is 02:50:09 uh with american flags and waving hands cannot overthrow our government it's a hoax yeah they very carefully controlled the videos that they released to make it uh you know who who did the first shoving you know because that's what it was, fist fights and stuff like that. So who shoved first and they controlled that completely. Even that compared to Portland or other cities, when
Starting point is 02:50:35 Democrats unleashed their terror groups like Antifa Black Lives Matter on our society they burned entire cities they murdered people. We're talking about the riots. But there was not even the riots. People, if you look at the
Starting point is 02:50:52 videos, the recently released videos, you can see police guiding people around the capital. People walking there. Yeah, some misbehave. But you know what? That will always happen. Also remember that this crowd was infiltrated by state entities who did instigated what what i believe failed on january
Starting point is 02:51:16 6 the biggest failure was democrats unable being unable to instigate widespread mayhem and violence. And that didn't happen. So that kind of put off a lot of their ideas, what they want to do. But I believe their ideas was the ones. And it's interesting that they're escalating the arrests now because they just come after a reporter for The blaze who was there as a reporter. I mean, clearly he's he's, you know, but of course, if you don't have the right, if you don't have part of the First Amendment to assemble and redress your grievances, you don't have the right to report either. Right. So they're coming after him.
Starting point is 02:51:59 They just arrested him, took him off in handcuffs. One of the people that I used to work with, Samoya uh they arrested him uh and he was doing journalist work you know he was there and he didn't push or shove anybody we've seen um three guys that i talked about two elderly guys and one of them was the son of one of the two guys they're in their early 70s they just walked up to the police and said can i use the restroom they said yeah it's right around here uh they chart they're charging them i want to give them a five-year jail sentence uh it is absolutely absurd and i guess here's my question for you what do you think is really behind all this because everybody sees the absurdity of this are they doing that to provoke are they doing this in election year to provoke that there is a small
Starting point is 02:52:40 loyal base to them that eats all this stuff up just accepts it whatever the mainstream media says to them but for most people i think they look at this and they say this this is really over the top as we're talking about do they want to do that do or is this another provocation trying to provoke something what do you think i don't believe so but i think they are not afraid of it uh their goal is to terrorize the society into submission and if you start you know i i know this from my experience in communist state in communist country behind the iron curtain it starts big of course so now we have a president trump being attacked by this administration. Now we have citizens being attacked, more prominent citizens. But please remember, once they are done with them,
Starting point is 02:53:35 the next is you in line. So for right now, I can say whatever I want to say, but pretty soon, for what I'm saying now, I might be looking over my shoulder because of the way socialism works. Tell me about it. Yeah, I know. Yeah, exactly. Socialism is socialism, whether it is Hitler's socialism, National Socialism, Joseph Stalin's socialism, socialism, Polish at the time socialism in my father and communists in Poland called it Polish socialism and democratic socialism.
Starting point is 02:54:14 And we know how many of the thousands of people are dead just in Poland, not talking about other democratic socialist countries in Eastern Europe. So socialism is socialism. And they all have many things in common, like censorship, persecution of political opponents, political prisoners, and even kill, political assassination, killing more inconvenient people to the state. So we need to be careful.
Starting point is 02:54:42 I see a lot of enamoration in our younger generation with socialism. They try to differentiate what socialism is not the communism. Well, it's not as bad yet, but it's the stepping stone to socialism. This we're taught our schools in Poland and in Eastern Europe, that socialism is a stepping stone to communism. Society needs to be prepared to accept the values, the moral values of communism, so that socialism allows this gradual transition into full communism. God help us.
Starting point is 02:55:14 I agree. Yeah, whenever they sell us socialism, it's always a common thing, is always the superiority of the collective to the individual, the superiority of the state. And we saw that in spades throughout 2020. Your health doesn't matter. You're going to do what we say to say you've got to take a vaccine so you can save everybody
Starting point is 02:55:31 else, all that type of stuff. So that is a key part of it. But I think the solution for this stuff is books like yours, you know, the pledge to America where you talk about you have a very compelling story your experience with the navy seals and it gives people an opportunity to and you're growing up in a communist country and people can look at that and say wow that looks like what they're doing here just like uh you know all the different testimonies that we see of people who escaped communism they know what it was like they can smell it a mile away and and they're warning us
Starting point is 02:56:06 and and people need to see these compelling personal stories about how people have escaped this i think it's very important and and i've got let me get your comment on this uh drago this last week i think we had a victory uh of some sort in ireland uh you had the progressives they thought they had everybody on the run. They were able to modify the Constitution, get abortion put in there, or at least stop the prohibition of abortion in the Constitution. So then they came back, and they decided that they were going to essentially attack motherhood and the family, redefine all of that in the Constitution,
Starting point is 02:56:41 and they got slapped down overwhelmingly, about just under 70% on one of the issues and almost three quarters on the other issue. People didn't want to have it. And I think that's one of the key things. I think that's a key thing in your story, because as you point out, you know, your mother was the influence on you, and we've lost the importance. And that's one of the things that was in the Irish constitution the important function of a mother the important function of a family to
Starting point is 02:57:11 shape a society where people have a good life and I think that was a situation with you if tell me if I'm mistaken but it was you know we used to talk about the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. And so in these socialist countries, in this country, you know, Biden wants to give free, you know, preschool care. They want to raise your kids and they're going to pay for it. We need to take that responsibility away from the state. And we need to reassert the importance of the family, the importance of the mother. And I think that's the key thing. That's why I ask you, what was it that turned you around?
Starting point is 02:57:47 And it seems like it was your mother, those who were close to you. You weren't close to your father, the communist, but you were close to those who had a different take on this. What do you think? Is that really what we need to focus on, building the family and building those relationships? What do you think? You see what turned me around?
Starting point is 02:58:03 I think this is a good lesson for everybody here too there's the power of social estate and the control they have over our children that we need to take it back here but what happened to me is when i said something in my fifth grade it was about the russian language i didn't want to learn russian language i was not the best student in the class and and i me, the additional Russian language was just another homework I had to do at home. So I just piped up at school openly, Teacher, why do they teach us Russian language, the Russian, the oppressor of Poland? This is the way Poles understood the Sinorosh time. So that was like, I didn't think much of it but immediately i was
Starting point is 02:58:48 the teacher woke up to me grab me by my ear this those are methods that all schools i guess in poland it was pull me by the ear out of the class to the school principal and uh they call police uh they call police so the police, before they came to school, they went, my mother was a teacher in a different school, they picked her up, they detained her, and they handcuffed her, they brought her to my school, they sat us down, and there was two, I think, two uniformed officers and two secret police officers.
Starting point is 02:59:27 And they interrogate us. And then they made it pretty clear that if this incident like this repeats itself, if I'm speaking up about socialism in not positive manner, I will be removed from my mom and placed in orphanage, the government orphanage, that i will be told properly so that was that was the one of the things that made me think and of course scared my my mother and then the other experiences within my family when stayed went and destroyed my uncle's business because he was working too hard and was competing with uh government businesses and with the business owned by communist cronies so not only destroyed his
Starting point is 03:00:16 business they almost killed him so that and this is who told me how to listen to radio free europe radio voice of america and this is where I started learning about the real Polish history because it was so falsified. Please remember after the Second World War when Communists were brought on Russian bayonets to Poland, we had the statues were removed that were not aligned with socialism, the books were removed that would not align with socialism the books were removed from libraries and and and and and you know about it i learned about it later on uh and that's what people need to understand people need to to understand how parallel all that stuff is again the book is the pledge to america thank you so much for joining us, Drago. And Adrago, rather.
Starting point is 03:01:05 And pronounce your last name there. People probably won't be able to spell. But if they get D-R-A-G-O and The Pledge to America, they'll be able to find that book, right? They'll be able to find it, yes. Good, good. They'll be able to find it. And we've got your website. It's been up there the entire time.
Starting point is 03:01:19 So people will be able to find your website as well. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for speaking out and trying to educate people so that we don't have to replicate what other people have learned the hard way. That's the one thing they say. The experience is an expensive school, but it's the only one a fool will attend. Let's hope that our society is not so foolish that we have to go through this experience before we learn the lesson that people who've grown up in communist or socialist countries learn. Thank you so much for joining us, Drago. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 03:01:50 Thank you for your service. Appreciate it. Thank you, David. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me. Thank you. Have a good day. Have a good weekend, everybody.
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