The David Knight Show - 16May23 Allegations of PARDONS FOR CASH Could Be the MOST SERIOUS Yet for Trump

Episode Date: May 16, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 La Reine des Moines Using free speech to free minds. You're listening to The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Tuesday, the 16th of May. Year of Our Lord 2023. Well, several things have happened in the last 24 hours. More than usual, actually. We've had Durham release his report after many, many years.
Starting point is 00:01:19 It might be taking longer than any other special prosecutor to do nothing. It is a harsh tongue lashing. And that's it. Stoichem centoian, very waffly. What a joke it is. We're not going to talk about it, frankly. That's all I've got to say about it. We are going to talk, however, about rude Rudy.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And some of the things that we're not going to get into the rude details. We're going to talk about how it really impacts what was done with Trump and pardons. And oh, by the way, we told you this a long time ago. I didn't tell you, but I had John Kiriakou on multiple times and we talked about how Rudy was selling pardons for cash.
Starting point is 00:02:01 We'll be right back. Well, on a new lawsuit that dropped yesterday, we see that there's allegations from a former aide who is suing rudy for some very sensational sexual assault claims uh but also and for money that was not paid to her but also saying that rudy and trump were selling pardons for two million dollars a piece who knew he couldn't figure this out from the kinds of people that he was pardoning. These massive white collar criminals, some of the biggest white collar criminals ever, you know, they were buying this thing. As a matter of fact, we had John Kiriakou tell us exactly the same thing. And, uh, of course, Rudy never came after.
Starting point is 00:03:02 They just tried to ignore it because, um, you know, that it because that's the way they one way to approach these things is to not talk about them. The bombshell allegation was levied on a complaint against Giuliani by Noel Dunphy, a New York based public relations professional. She had lots of relations uh that's the other thing about this is that um uh you know her she's talking about well here's what it says unlawful abuses of power wide-ranging sexual assault and harassment wage and theft and other misconduct they continued on for a couple of years anyway um her lawsuit details an interaction she allegedly had with mr giuliani on around the 16th of february 2019 when he was serving as trump's personal attorney and attempting to dig up overseas dirt on then former vice president biden who at the time was two months
Starting point is 00:04:00 away from entering the presidential race 2020 she writes that as they reviewed emails between him and Ukrainian officials, between Biden and Ukrainian officials, she asked if Giuliani had to register as a foreign agent under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and she offered to do the required paperwork for him. Former mayor replied that he was allowed to violate that and other U.S. laws because, quote, he had immunity. The laws are for the little people. If only we could have a picture of Rudy Giuliani as he would
Starting point is 00:04:34 serve this lawsuit, I'm sure he would be sweating hair dye again as he was before. There's an expression out of New York that I'd never heard my wife's from New York. Sweating bullets. I think that's probably the best way to describe Rudy Giuliani as we saw him with the hair dye running down the sides of his face. I put that picture up. I really got a lot of flack at InfoWars for putting that up. And so I know you got a problem with that. We're now cheerleading for Rudy Giuliani, who was doing the 9-11 cover-up at InfoWars for putting that up. I said, oh, you got a problem with that?
Starting point is 00:05:05 We're now cheerleading for Rudy Giuliani, who was doing the 9-11 cover-up at InfoWars. We're going to cheer for that? Okay, well, let's do it again. I kept doing it. So anyway, Giuliani asked her if she knew anybody who needed a pardon because he was selling pardons for $2 million, which he and President Trump would split. That sounds about right. Sounds like what I've been told.
Starting point is 00:05:29 He told Ms. Dunphy that she could refer individuals seeking pardons to him, so long as they did not go through the, quote, normal channels of the office of the pardon attorney, because correspondents going to that office would be subject to disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act, said the lawsuit. In August, the New York Times reported that former CIA officer John Kiriakou broached the topic with Giuliani during a meeting at the Washington, D.C. hotel Mr. Trump's company ran between 2016 and 2022. I've talked to John Kiriakou, as a matter of fact, a couple of times since we've had this show. I talked to him, and the last time I talked to him was February 7, 2022.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I was going to pull what he had to say, because I think both times we mentioned it briefly. Maybe we didn't the second time. I know we did when I talked to him in 2021. And I wanted to get what he had to say. It was well before last August. And he was talking about it in 2021. He couldn't, that's when he first went public with it. Because that was, you know, when Trump was really selling the pardons at the last minute.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And John Kiriakou had already served time in jail. Why was he in jail? Well, because he blew the whistle on CIA torture, which wasn't simply illegal, immoral, unconstitutional, all the rest of this stuff. Now, CIA torture was used to obtain the lies about weapons of mass destruction that were used to lie us into the 2000, into the Iraq War. I forget the date, actually.
Starting point is 00:07:12 But that was what was used to lie us into that Iraq War. What was it, about 2004, 2005? I forget. Anyway, and so he blew the whistle on the torture. Gina Haspel covered it up. Gina Haspel didn't go to jail. She was promoted to Trump to be head of CIA. The psychiatrists eventually, you know, trying to get some compensation.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Some of the people sued the psychiatrist. Some of the people who were tortured in Gitmo or other places, wherever it was that they were doing it, I forget. Uh, but some of the people were were tortured sued the psychiatrists who were paid millions of dollars, I think, to train the CIA on this stuff in a civil suit. And that was thrown out. The system has really closed ranks around this. But John Kiriakou blew the whistle. He wasn't going to be a part of it. He blew the whistle on it because it was immoral, it was illegal, and it was the basis for the Iraq lies that got us into that war. So they threw him in jail.
Starting point is 00:08:13 He did his time. He wrote books about it. How to do time like a CIA agent. Things like that. And we talked about that when he was on last time. It truly is amazing what he went through in prison. And, um, if,
Starting point is 00:08:26 uh, you know, the FBI is knocking around your door because of your politics, you may want to get a copy of his book about how to do time, uh, and like a CIA agent and how to survive anyway. Um, a very dangerous place.
Starting point is 00:08:40 But, um, when he was talking about it, he said, uh, he had already done the time time but he wanted to get the pardon because it had locked up less than a million dollars uh it was like eight hundred thousand nine hundred thousand dollars and a pension plan that he had with the cia that he
Starting point is 00:08:56 couldn't get to plus it closed down opportunities for him for a lot of different things to be convicted and so he wanted that wiped off of his record for those two reasons. To open up things, I don't know if it affects owning a weapon, but certainly it's a black mark when he's trying to get a job, although he's high enough profile people can understand what that is. But anyway, he wanted to get that removed, and he wanted to be able to get his pension. And so he met with Rudy Giuliani, and he said he had,
Starting point is 00:09:24 Giuliani was there with two aides and he said, uh, I'd like to make my case to president Trump to get a pardon. And Giuliani stood up and says, I've got to go to the restroom. He pardoned himself, pardon me. And so he goes to the restroom while he's gone, the two aides give him a figure and he goes, I not gonna pay you two million dollars for a one million dollar less than a million dollar pension plan that i would get over a period of time are you crazy and then john kiryaku being the guy that he is just like he didn't cover up the cia's torture he didn't cover up rudy giuliani's offering of bribes or you know pardon for money.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Talked about a long time ago. It's good to have some people out there who, um, will tell you the truth, isn't it? So anyway, he said, uh, as the New York times reported in August, so it's going to cost $2 million. He's going to want $2 million said the associates. And so, uh, he said, I laughed $2 million. You had your mind. Even if I had to be in books, I wouldn't spend it to recover a $700,000 pension. That's what it was.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Wasn't 800, nine, 900,000, 700,000. Well, anyway, uh, not a good day for Rudy. Uh, and I really have having a big, massive, uh, shot and Freud here. Right? I can't stand this guy. I can't believe that the Maga people, that the info wars people are all cheering Trump and Rudy, the guy who helped cover up what happened in nine 11. He got people sick and killed because he pushed them into this area to remove the evidence
Starting point is 00:11:06 without masks when there was still toxic dust there and you had other officials saying it was a whitman uh who was saying yeah it's safe come on in it's safe clean all that stuff up we don't want anybody saying what's going on here we don't want anybody seeing this stuff is still burning uh yeah clean this up now right don't worry about it don't need a mask uh so what else is in the lawsuit well the woman says that rudy coerced her into sex and owes her two million dollars i guess he was expecting to get that from John Kiriakou. I can't pay you. You know, John didn't want to buy the pardon. So pardon me, I guess Rudy said to her and he kept the $2 million.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I don't think he said, pardon me. It's a 70 page legal complaint. Very detailed. Giuliani vehemently denied the allegations to a spokesperson. They said his lifetime of public service speaks for itself. Yeah, it sure does, doesn't it? Just like Donald Trump's lifetime of sexual harassment speaks for itself as well in his lawsuits. The new court filing portrays Giuliani, 78, as a hard-drinking, Viagra-popping womanizer who is satisfying his sexual demands and absolute requirement of her employment.
Starting point is 00:12:32 So she's seeking $10 million from him, not just the $2 million in unpaid wages. She claims in the lawsuit to have made numerous audio recordings of Giuliani, including some in which she says he can be heard making sexual comments, demanding sex, making sexist, racist, and anti-Semitic remarks. Her legal team declined a request from the Associated Press to share those recordings, saying, no, they're part of the litigation. You know, perhaps as I show this to the opposing attorneys, the opposing attorneys may be inclined to make an offer
Starting point is 00:13:10 that Rudy won't be able to refuse. Included in the complaint are screenshots of suggestive text messages, purportedly from Giuliani as well. So those have been seen, I guess. The lawsuit claims that he hired her in January 2019 and promised to pay her a million dollars a year for consulting work. But he told her that he had to defer payments
Starting point is 00:13:35 until he had settled his divorce from his third wife, Judith, according to the lawsuit. Almost immediately, he started making sexual advances to her. Giuliani reached a divorce settlement in December 2019, she said, but she never, even then, got paid. All she got from Giuliani was a few cash payments totaling $12,000 to cover living expenses, and he still owes her $1,988,000, she said. So anyway, it is going to be very interesting as this develops. This could be, quite frankly, bigger than any of the other stuff
Starting point is 00:14:16 that they've got in the fire right now about Trump. Among the other bombshell accusations, including the lawsuit, is that he told her that there was a plan for the possibility of Trump losing the 2020 presidential election to Biden. He told her that, she said in the lawsuit, in February 2019. So we've got a plan in case Trump loses. Quote, Trump's team would claim that there was voter fraud and that Trump had actually won the election. That's what I'm saying. This lawsuit could be the biggest Trump thing yet that his enemies have got.
Starting point is 00:14:55 He drank morning, noon, and night, she said. He was frequently intoxicated. His behavior was always unpredictable. And he took Viagra constantly. So as a demonstrative example to back up what she is saying, she said a good example of what Giuliani looked like on the bed, the suit,
Starting point is 00:15:21 included an image of him in the now infamous hidden camera scene in borat sub subsequent movie film in which he was captured with his hands down his pants at a manhattan hotel room in a compromising position with a woman you know this is what she's saying this is uh par for the course um again many audio audio recordings, she said. She says Giuliani, she has Giuliani on tape telling her that he was in love with a 20-year-old employee more than 50 years his junior, who he fantasized about. And his representative said any recordings that she has of him were illegally obtained. There you go. Don't listen to these things. Somehow, I just don't think that the liberals will have the same standard
Starting point is 00:16:12 that they did with the Center for Medical Progress when they got those tapes of Planned Parenthood talking about how they could acquire any body parts that you wanted at any age that you wanted from babies that they would abort. I want to get my Lamborghini and all the rest of this stuff. And Lala Harris, who was the California attorney general at the time, said, I don't care what they say. We're not going to take a look at them killing babies for hire and extracting body parts from living babies.
Starting point is 00:16:46 We're not going to pay any attention to that. These were illegally obtained. Do you think that the liberals are going to have that same approach to these tapes for Moody Giuliani? Of course not. They're going to be all over them. And quite frankly, I don't buy any of that stuff anyway you know just as a reporter i never i never played that game about any off the record stuff there isn't anything off the record with me um that's why i'm sitting here in the garage now
Starting point is 00:17:19 um but anyway uh it describes it describes giuliani acting obsessed with her, calling her up to 53 times a day. This became part of a pattern in which he referenced her as, quote, his daughter in the context of sexual activity. Well, that's strange. You know, what's troubling is he actually does have a daughter. In the same way that Joe Biden issues with his daughter. It is a complaint filled with shocking details and allegations. And if you want to read it, you can read it. I'm not going to read it to you, frankly. We know what Rudy Giuliani is.
Starting point is 00:17:58 We've known what he is for a long time. And it was an indictment of Trump that he would even be associated with somebody like this. But of course there's nothing in the allegations about Rudy Giuliani dressing up like a woman. As he did on tape with, with Donald Trump. Can't unsee that either.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I'm I won't show it to you. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back. Thank you. you're listening to the david knight show well i want to go over some emails that i got because i've gotten some very good emails last couple of days and i haven't gone through them. This one came yesterday. It's from Daniel B. who has a Rumble channel. Named, interestingly enough, Daniel B.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Just the letter B. And he said, I've recently been made aware that Carlson may be a much greater snake in the grass than we possibly realized. Where on March the 9th, he was full on in terms of pushing the pandemic. On March the 27th, he said, I highlighted, and he's got a link to his video if you want to see it. There, it's on Rumble. The channel is Daniel space B. I highlighted the deep state. And then on March 18th, he apparently had to twist the Pied Piper, Trump's arm, to take COVID seriously. As a matter of fact, at the time, Washington Post was saying, well, you know, we really do hate Tucker, but boy, he really did us all a service by pushing Trump to take this
Starting point is 00:20:35 COVID stuff seriously and to do what he's told. So this is a clip that he sent me a link to. This is Tucker Carlson on Monday, March the 9th, 2020. This is what he had to say that Monday night. And by the end of the week, on March the 13th, Friday the 13th, Trump put out his executive order to lock us down. If you think you can trust Tucker Carlson, listen to this. Good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson Tonight.
Starting point is 00:21:13 The Chinese coronavirus epidemic turns out to be just that, an epidemic. There's no denying that now. According to the official count, this country has recorded more than 500 cases of the virus and suffered at least 24 deaths. The real number is without question far higher than that. Soon we will have a better sense of just how much higher. By then, this epidemic will have caused economic damage whose effects may dog us for years. People you know will get sick. Some may die. This is real. That's the point of this script, to tell you that. You'll're forgiven if the whole thing snuck up on you as if from nowhere.
Starting point is 00:21:46 An obscure virus arising from a meat market in eastern China to sicken American citizens in Oregon and New Hampshire and Illinois and midtown Manhattan. It sounds ridiculous. Nor have our leaders helped us to take it seriously. On the left, you've heard them tell you that the real worry is that you might use the wrong word to describe what's happening to the country. It's racist, they're telling you, to blame the most racist nation in the world for the spread of this virus. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Meanwhile, if we're being honest, the other side has not been especially helpful either. People you trust, people you probably voted for, have spent weeks minimizing what is clearly a very serious problem. It's just partisan politics, they say. Calm down. In the end, this is just like the flu, and people die from that every year. Coronavirus will pass, and when it does, we will feel foolish for worrying about it. That's their position. No doubt these people have... Does he feel foolish yet? As they say, this many... I wonder if he feels foolish. They may not know any better. Maybe they're just not paying attention. Or maybe they believe they're serving some higher cause by shading reality.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Nobody wants to be manipulated by a corrupt media establishment. And it is corrupt. And you're part of it. Best not to say anything that might help the other side. We get it. But they're wrong. The Chinese coronavirus is a major event. It will affect your life.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And by the way, it's definitely not just the flu. In a typical year, the flu in this country has a mortality rate of about one in a thousand. The overall death rate for this virus, by contrast, is as high as 3.4 percent. Here's where he pushes the models in CDC as a gospel truth. The true effect, because the mortality is not distributed evenly. For those age 70 to 79, the death rate is about 8%. For those over 80, it's nearly 15%. Do you feel foolish now, Tucker, for saying this? Diabetes, respiratory ailments, or heart conditions. That's a lot of people. So what will things look like once the epidemic
Starting point is 00:23:37 matures in America? Well, for answers, consider what's happening in Italy. Yeah, consider what's happening. And you know what was happening in Italy Italy as I reported that week? We had two weeks worth of reports from Italy. Yes, he shows pictures of ghost towns, nobody anywhere. This is what it's going to look like here, said Tucker. Well, how did he know? How did he know? Well, he had models. He had people telling him to say that. You see, deep snake in the grass. As I've said, I've never trusted him since he went for years, years as a debunker of 9-11. Well, they want to say, you know, they asked me these questions. Well, why don't you just tell me your stupid narrative instead of asking me questions to make me think or whatever? He never debunked anything. Has he apologized for this? Does he feel like he sounded ridiculous and stupid now after three years? All this stuff about how
Starting point is 00:24:36 all the old people are going to die, remember that? It's important to go back and hear these things, isn't it? To know who lied to you so that you don't trust them. He is setting himself up in a position of trust. We've got conservatives who trust him. We have conservatives who trust Elon Musk. By the way, here's Elon Musk just over the weekend going to see Emmanuel Macron. Hello, everyone. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, here we are. Here we are. Let's get some instructions about who would you like for me to censor for you, right? These people control information. They control information to control you. Tucker Carlson's father was, and I think perhaps still is, working with Voice of America, a propaganda outfit. You know, we had the Smith-Munt Act,
Starting point is 00:25:32 which we were very alarmed when Obama took away the prohibitions of the Smith-Munt Act, M-U-N-D-T. Look it up. It said, we're going to create propaganda organizations like Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, other things like that. But they're not going to be allowed to operate here in the United States. They took away that prohibition. It was obvious when Obama was doing that, that they were going to propagandize Americans. Tucker Carlson's dad worked for that organization.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And, you know, he wanted to be a, he was a CIA wannabe himself. He said they didn't accept him. But perhaps they said, we've got a different role for you to play. So, yeah, this is far higher than anything that you've been told. Yeah, he's trying to build the case right as we were always talking about this Gerald Cilenti you know going back in January look at this China is locking people up sealing them in buildings and they say they've got two or three people who have died from this out of how many billion people in China and they're sealing off the place. This is insanity.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And I was saying that too in January. And so what Tucker Carlson is saying, well, it's far higher. We're going to find it's far higher. Disgust me. I never saw this clip of Tucker because as I've said many times, I don't watch him on a nightly basis. I only see him when people put up clips,
Starting point is 00:27:03 something that they think is newsworthy. Sometimes I'll see that. But I saw the same types of fear tactics and pushing the panic button being done by Alex, being done by Mike Adams. Mike Adams reading the stats from the CDC, all the rest of this stuff. He says, you're going to find this is far higher death toll.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And I'm here to tell you that this is real. It's the Chinese flu. Because what is it that the deep state is focused on? They want a war with China. The war with Russia is just a buildup to that. They know that Russia and China will become allies. So they got to weaken russia as much as they can before they go after china you know i talked to peter charrette and
Starting point is 00:27:50 i'll say it many times you know his book four battle battlegrounds battlefields i can't remember the exact title but i wanted to talk to him about the ai aspect of it and that was very interesting and i thought it was very informative but he works for an organization that is part of the military industrial complex that is funded by soros and what they want to do is they want to everything in that book what whenever they're talking about the battlegrounds that we're going to fight over with artificial intelligence of course the opponent to us is always china and so that's why these people are making it about that. It's not, again, it's not a bioweapon, fortunately, that came out of the lab. What came out of China was all the lockdown stuff that he was demanding that Trump do
Starting point is 00:28:37 at the time. That was the pandemic. It was a psychological pandemic. It was a pandemic of locking us down and destroying our society. Destroying as much middle class, main street businesses as they could. Taking as many jobs. Getting people to practice being on the dole. On the universal basic income that they want to impose on us. That was the plague. That was the virus. That was the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And he was selling you the other thing. So he said, people you trust, maybe even people that you voted for. You notice how he wouldn't use Trump's name. You see, I said that when Musk made the announcement that, yes, okay, all this stuff about free speech, it was just a dodge. And we'll see what happens. I got my blue check mark. I got my little check mark next to my name for $8.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And, um, we'll see what happens with this. I have a very low expectations, but, um, you know, after when they reviewed me, they put, put the, the program under sensitive content for one day um and i did my best to scream about it on twitter and elsewhere and so they haven't done that since but we'll see what happens when this world economic forum uh babe takes charge this boss babe that he hired uh she was all about the vaccines too right shutting down the vaccines because that's the central thing and i said when i talked about i said well you know this is going to be interesting because tucker thinks that he's going to run his twitter um his program off of twitter i don't think he's going to do that but of course he's got enough money and enough supporters and enough
Starting point is 00:30:17 other billionaires to support him that he doesn't have to rely on twitter and i think that they probably will shut him down because the types of things that he wants to say are going to be counter to their narrative. Understand the deep state, the intelligence community is not monolithic. It has its left and right wing factions in that as well. There's a lot of internecine warfare going on within the intelligence agencies.
Starting point is 00:30:39 You have different factions, right? You know, Steve Pachinik is on one side then you've got people like brendan on the other side uh so the other different factions uh they have a lot in common they don't have your best interest either one of them at heart it is not about saving this republic or even a democracy. They both feel entitled to do whatever they need to so that they win. But when it comes to him being on Twitter, who knows? Maybe Tucker Carlson will be able to tap dance around just like he did at Fox News for years,
Starting point is 00:31:17 before he came out, just before they fired him, and said, you know, there are some news companies. What if Fox News were to tell you that you had to buy the, the product of their sponsor, Mike Lindell, and you had to get booster pillows and all the rest of the stuff, you know, he didn't go in the analogy, I think of the booster pillow smothering you like a Scalia at the Cibola Creek ranch, by the way, I just, I just got a, I just got a, since I stay at the Cibola Creek Ranch to cover that Scalia thing, I just got a follow-up email from them telling me that they are, I forget, maybe it's Memorial Day or something. I got a special Cibola Creek Ranch.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I don't think of Cibola Creek Ranch in terms of Memorial Day. I think of them more like a Halloween or some dark satanic, which is Sabbath or something. That's what I think of with, uh, when I think that's what comes to mind. When I think of all the decorations, weird masks and all the rest of this stuff is as well as, uh, the context of why I was there, but I digress. Uh, the Fox news host managed to get the president of the United States says Washington post to take the coronavirus seriously that is they're saying tucker carlson when legions of
Starting point is 00:32:31 public health experts around the world and even in his own administration could not at a south carolina campaign rally in late february trump even brushed off his political adversaries alarm over the virus as quote their new hoax. See, I think he knew all along it was a hoax and I think it just became too much pressure from every side and he went along with it, but some of the pressure was coming from Tucker Carlson. He said, enter Tucker Carlson says the Washington post who, unlike many of his scoffing Fox colleagues had admirably, says the Washington Post, admirably focused his primetime show on the global health threat for weeks. For weeks.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It's not just one clip. For weeks he was doing this, evidently. Again, I don't watch his show. He was concerned enough to head down to Trump's Florida resort in early March to talk to Trump. It amounted to an intervention, said the Washington Post. Tucker Carlson told Joe Hagan in a Vanity Fair interview this week at that time when this was written, I felt I had a moral obligation to be useful in whatever small way I could. Useful to who?
Starting point is 00:33:46 CIA? Your Voice of America propagandists? There was no immediate turnaround. Trump continued to downplay the threat for days, they said. But, Carlson said on the segment, people you know will get sick. Some may die. This is real. People you trust, people you probably voted for have spent
Starting point is 00:34:05 weeks minimizing what is clearly a very serious problem. And so, you know, is that that kind of pressure? You know, Tucker Carlson is going to, he's going to get my MAGA base upset with me. And what about that? Oh, now I've got an excuse. I got this ridiculous printout from the Imperial College of London. Two very smart people gave me this thing. Oh, well, we're done. Now, though, Carlson has done something. They said, we don't like Tucker Carlson. So the Washington Post, we really hate him.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And they recount some of his many thought crimes as far as they're concerned. But now he's done something commendable. And he may well have saved lives because there is a sizable segment of the American population that believes Trump and Fox News and not much else. And they believe Trump. I mean, Tucker. And when Tucker does some eye rolls, maybe that helps some people to not get it. But he wouldn't oppose it. He wouldn't oppose the vaccine until he was ready for them to fire him.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And then he would attack the vaccine and their hosts. Doug Elkins writes, it's funny how Twitter is suddenly the big go-to for truth. Yeah, it is, isn't it? It is sad that Tucker's going there rather than to rumble. I won't be going to Twitter. You know, that's the whole thing. I think that,
Starting point is 00:35:27 uh, the, the number of followers that I have on Twitter, I don't know if any of them are even there anymore. I mean, it's, and, and I've watched it and still the same thing happens,
Starting point is 00:35:37 you know, it'll go up through the, uh, through the weekend. Right. Um, I'll get maybe a couple hundred new followers or something on a weekend and then when monday comes around and the employee comes back it disappears and it was that way for
Starting point is 00:35:51 a long time it was down uh in the 120s and it went up by 10 000 when um you had um the mass firings so i guess now somebody else is in place and doing the same thing. Dingo Boss 1. Tucker is an older frat boy, appearing pal, who in reality is a privileged deep state fraud, just like the rest of the Fox people. He spells it P-H-O-X, like pharmaceutical. Pfizer owns Fox. Yes. Mockingbird deceivers and liars for hire. Yeah, that's absolutely true. And, you know, Tucker said that, essentially. You know, he made the analogy, Fox, and all this.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And he goes, now, Fox didn't lie to you. But he got very nervous when he started reading that. Maybe he thought they were going to just pull the plug on him in the middle of it. Because everybody understood what that analogy was. And as I pointed out, you know, Matt Drudge told me that the reason that he put up that picture of baby samuel such an effective pro-life picture was because he knew fox would fire him fox would fire somebody for putting up the most positive pro-life picture ever perhaps that's where fox News is you want to talk about people you can trust white knight 126 people get attached to looks into personalities
Starting point is 00:37:12 and can easily be brainwashed by what they're fed Newsmax is just as bad as the rest he says Fox CNN MSNBC yeah I haven't I don't watch Newsmax Tim Walsh I never understood why Tucker put so much faith in the information he was citing. Narrow Way, Narrow Gate Ministries says Tucker has his own idolatry cult following him, as Trump has his own idolatry cult through MAGA witchcraft following him. Look at how fast it took for Elon to show his true colors. And people put their faith and trust in him to return free speech. Free speech is an illusion these miscreants own all the media that's right absolutely i've said it's my opinion
Starting point is 00:37:54 that the entire internet but especially social media was created for this very purpose it's not like there was this organically created thing and um and it gets out of control and now they come in and say hey we got to shut this thing down it was created for this purpose if you go back to the 1960s darpa psychologist jcr licklider proposed it they had to wait until the 90s before it became practical because the the switching speeds. But they had, on all these venture capital firms, they had people from the deep state, from the CIA, from the NSA, from all these different ones. And, of course, they created, at the same time, geospatial intelligence division to map where you are. All the stuff about geofence warrants that we've seen in January the 6th and all the rest of these things,
Starting point is 00:38:44 that was always the attention. It was always deeply tied with geospatial intelligence. It was tied with activity-based intelligence, anticipatory intelligence. They would look at your activity. They would look at your associates. They would make assumptions about you and the activities that you're going to be involved in and try to predict what you're going to do. And as I pointed out this last week, I had a few people who have reported this.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I think it was broken by Reclaim the Net. That was where I first saw it. Maybe they got it from somebody else. I don't remember the sources, but they had screenshots of the game that is being used to train DHS people to spot dangerous domestic extremists. And, you know, the example, one of four examples that they use. All four examples were nonsense. But the one that really was amazing, a woman who is middle-aged in her 40s.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Her mother has died. And since her mother has died, she's got more attached to her church. She's going there more frequently. And now she is getting involved in pro-life activities. She's being radicalized, says the Department of Homeland Security. Another one was a parent, you know, that type of thing. And it is apparent to us what is going on with these people and how they intend to use all of this stuff. It was the intention from the very beginning. They play the long game, but we serve someone who has declared the end from the beginning. Jason Barker, thank you for the tip, Jason. Hope you're doing great. He says today's Christmas for me. Good. I am unpacking office
Starting point is 00:40:26 stuff and found a rogue DK bumper sticker. Now I have to decide where to place it. Uh, well, don't put it next to your license plate. I shouldn't be saying that, but no, it'll, uh, it'll, uh, uh, wherever you want to put it. And I'm so glad to see Jason Barker finally retired from the military. And he weathered it through that kept his principles as integrity's and not only that, but he helped a lot of other people as Knights of the storm. And, you know, Travis did, uh, took his place on a Saturday. It was great program.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I enjoyed watching, um, angry tiger, uh, Franco and, and, Tiger, Franco, and Travis talking about that. So looking forward to seeing them back up again. So, yeah, now Tucker Carlson has done something commendable, said the Washington Post. He scared the pants off of people so we can do to them whatever we wish because it is fear. It is fear that makes us all run. Yeah, it's funny last night.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Let's not open up the Bible. And this happens sometimes. You open it up and something just catches your eye. And right there, inset, it said, don't call a conspiracy what these people call a conspiracy is out of isaiah 8 right don't fear what they fear fear god fear god anyway an nih study is beginning and this is from anthony thank you for this link he said i saw this and thought you might be interested assuming you've not seen it. And of course he says, you know, you can always, if you don't have the link and I'll tell all of
Starting point is 00:42:08 you, you can always go to the NIH site or you can just go to a Google thing, search for NIH and quote clinical trial of mRNA universal influenza vaccine candidate began. They've begun the trial. You know, the things that I've played that clip for you so many times, I won't play it for you again now, but October, 2019, the Milken Institute, that's what they were talking about. Universal flu vaccine. Not only that, a universal flu vaccine that's not tested.
Starting point is 00:42:41 How do we get people to do this? Well, we do it from the inside, says Fauci. We do it with chaos and fear. People like Tucker will even help us with that. And we do it iteratively. And so now here we are with this iteration. The universal flu vaccine, mRNA. You know why they're doing this? Let me just, here's my take on why they're doing this.
Starting point is 00:43:04 The flu vaccine has always been total nonsense. It is always is widely taken. So maybe that's one of the reasons why there were more cases, adverse effects in the VAERS database of flu vaccine than anything else, because it's so universally taken. But, you know, the MMR jabs are pretty universally taken as well. And so, um, I guess maybe not, but you would have more problems with the flu vaccine than anything else. And it was totally useless. Why? Well, because they would just pick a strain of the flu and they would start, you know, growing it in the chicken eggs or whatever. Months before flu season, people start to get sick when the weather changes.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And they would pick a strain and they would create their vaccine to address that strain. Now, even if the vaccine was going to work, and that's a big if, okay, I don't believe uh i've gotten to the point now where i don't believe anything about vaccines including the theory of them but uh i know that in the very early stages you know you had some effective things when they were in a primitive state uh and they were actually exposing people to a dead or weakened virus of smallpox or something like that uh that um you know people got essentially a mild case of it but it's with this industrialized thing
Starting point is 00:44:33 that's there that's not the same thing at all and they've added all kinds of preservatives they added all kinds of adjuvants why do they add the adjuvants things like formaldehyde things like aluminum and things like that to irritate your immune system. Why? Because they weren't getting an immune system response from their stuff. You see? They wouldn't need to add all these toxic adjuvants if the vaccines worked. The problem was, is that they didn't want people to actually contract the disease.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And so they watered these things down quite a bit. You had a lot of people who died from getting the vaccine in the early days. If you go back to the theologian who's pretty famous, a part of the Great Awakenings and stuff, Jonathan Edwards, died when they gave him a smallpox vaccine. He got the smallpox disease. And, you know, one famous person, there's been many famous persons, but there were a lot of not famous persons who died from that kind of stuff as well. And so, you know, they want to come up.
Starting point is 00:45:35 So getting away from the vaccine stuff, I don't think the current vaccines work at all, period. They're very different from those other vaccines where you were basically playing Russian roulette like you do with the MRNA stuff. You don't know in the early days, at least with this stuff, how could Pfizer have such poor quality control that the active ingredient would vary from, and I forget again what the unit of measurement was, but it would vary from 3 to 100. It varied by factor of 33. And we know that, and we know that the higher doses used were what were harming people the most because of the lot numbers. They've tied that together. Naomi Wolf did that correlation, investigation, and so forth. But the big logical issue with these flu vaccines, you know, for the people
Starting point is 00:46:28 who don't want to look at the VAERS thing, the big logical issue for it was, well, they just picked a flu strain. They don't know what the dominant flu strain is going to be this year or if there's going to be a brand new one because they're always changing. That's why, you know, you can't cure the common cold and the flu because they're always changing. But they would pick it months in advance and create a vaccine that was supposed to address this. And, oh, well, it's a different one. And, of course, it's going to be a different one, considering how many of those things there are out there. So the whole thing was based on an absurd supposition that they knew which one of the hundreds or thousands of flu strains were going to be dominant this year. And they don't. So it made absolutely no sense from the get-go.
Starting point is 00:47:12 But this is why I think they want to do this with mRNA. They will say, well, we have seen the flu and we have now custom made an mRNA injection for it. And so that's going to be the way they're going to market it. You mark my words today. Today is the 16th of May, 2023. And I'm now predicting what their marketing tech is going to be when they start rolling this out. Because, you know, and they'll be pretty soon
Starting point is 00:47:40 because, you know, they're not going to test it, right? We're beyond that as well. We've just set the precedent that they don't have to test any injections or any medications. So I'm predicting here today, the 16th of May, 2023, that that's going to be the way they're going to be selling this. Maybe not this. Maybe it'll be this flu season, but maybe it'll be the next one. We have now custom made an mRNA vaccine just right on the spot. We know exactly what the flu strain is, and now you've got to get it.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And now that'll be the way that they can start poisoning more and more people. Because that's the real goal. Yeah, they want to make money. Yeah, they want to sell this thing, but the real goal is depopulation. This is another email. hello david kenny from iowa here again he spoke about friends viewers expecting twins and one was a downs baby i believe that's the story yes uh he says down kids are awesome we have one and from our neck of the woods that made the special olympic world games and. Yeah, Tony Arderman could relate
Starting point is 00:48:46 because Tony is a powerlifter. It was a great story, and he sent me a link to it, so I haven't looked at the story yet, but I will. Yeah, and our personal story. A very close friend of ours from church who has now passed away from cancer, but they'd had difficulty having kids, um they did artificial insemination or something and they had two babies uh she was older because they had worked for so long to do this
Starting point is 00:49:15 and then they did the she was a nurse so she did all the medical stuff and um so they did the amniocentesis thing right and uh uh then they said well you know it shows positive for downs so we would suggest that you abort both of the babies well she refused to abort either of them and her sister she was from delaware her sister was very very liberal not a christian and uh her sister got so angry with her that her sister never talked to her again for the rest of her life one of the babies perfectly normal and being from Delaware they were they were not big fans of most of the things that conservatives like like guns it was interesting that the boy who was normal
Starting point is 00:50:06 um took a liking to guns and to their credit they did not shut him down they allowed him to pursue that interest he went to a technical school and became a gunsmith and he's now working for a gun manufacturer so uh that was kind of interesting, but the, the girl was, um, uh, it was very difficult. Not going to tell you it wasn't difficult. Uh, she would do some crazy stuff, but, uh, she was also a great joy to them. You know, and isn't that the case, you know, we go through our life and sometimes the most difficult times in our life, or the most difficult things we have, are also the best things. You have to have that darkness before you can really appreciate the light.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I think that's true even when you look at a story. I think a lot of the stories that are not interesting, the films that are not interesting, is because they don't have a well enough defined villain. You can't have a hero without a villain you can't have uh you know it takes a darkness to give you the kind of appreciation you need of the light angus mustang thank you so much for the tip um he says um uh barker and mustang 2024 running for office. David, we would need you for press secretary
Starting point is 00:51:28 to make us look good. I'd be happy to do it. But I don't think you guys need any help, actually. You look pretty good on your own. John Besiglon I guess is the way you pronounce it. I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing it. Says COVID is relevant because
Starting point is 00:51:43 they plan on springing another pandemic again. are not done yet oh yes they you're absolutely right they make that point many many many times many times and um and i just want to say here um to carl uh who has a channel he he puts our show up and um he's actually descended from Pastor Martin Niemuller. He corrected my pronunciation of that, so thank you for doing that. And I'll try to remember. That's going to be a hard habit to break. I've been saying Niemuller for such a long time. I did that because of George Muller.
Starting point is 00:52:21 But again, you know, we might even be mispronouncing george mueller's name for all we know that always surprised me i just let me digress here for a moment you know when i went to europe uh my last year of high school with a music group and we did this little tour we had like nine countries in 11 days or something you know those crazy things and um uh but you know saw a lot of the diversity at the time and it was a lot more diverse than it is today really was i mean even the states were more diverse you had a lot of regional dialects in the united states everything has become a lot more centralized homogenized and that's true now of europe as well um i haven't been there for over 20 years, but you can kind of see it from a
Starting point is 00:53:06 distance. And I saw it from over a period of 20 years from the first time that I went to the last time I went. It was actually 30 years. Anyway, what struck me was as we were going around places, how they had different names for the cities. And I i thought why don't we just use the names that these people have called it right we call it italy they call it italia you know why don't we just call it italia how why did we start or roma right uh why do we call it rome instead of roma um what's difficult about that and so it always struck me as odd you know steve martin commented on it once he said uh you know it's like these french people they got a different word for everything that isn't it so much as it is when we have something that is essentially their city and uh we call it roma instead of rome i don't i just don just still don't understand that. So anyway, I'll try to do it that way.
Starting point is 00:54:06 He said, maybe we just Americanize the pronunciation. Well, I don't know. But since it's your family, we will use the term knee molar. So I appreciate that. And he has internet radio. They do 24-7 talk radio station. K-A-R-L. And K-A-R, I'm sorry, it's K-A-R-L dot two, K-A-R-L dot
Starting point is 00:54:32 two, the number two. And so he says, I'm still airing your show on my first station, K-A-R-L radio, and now we're airing K-A- KARL.2 on multiple times. So I really do appreciate that. He's also followed by the Knights of the Storm. Jason and Angry Tiger were on that as well. And so he sent me the schedule. He says, you notice that on Saturday, your show is airing almost all day on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:55:02 He said, I call the programming Saturday night. So anyway, I'm going to do a, I'm sorry that I lost your email for a moment. We had to really search for this thing. He asked me to do a promo for him. I'll be happy to do that. I'm going to get on that. So I really do appreciate you doing that. And we'll do a promo for that station.
Starting point is 00:55:19 By the way, I'll just mention it briefly. I don't know if I'll have time today to get to the car stuff, But Mark Levin got very upset because they're taking AM radios out of cars. This is an attack on conservatives. And yeah, I think there's an element of that perhaps. But Ford is the one that's doing it the most. They're going to take it out of all their cars. And we talked about this several weeks ago, maybe a month ago with Eric Peters. The fact that all these EV cars,
Starting point is 00:55:48 electric vehicles, were taking out AM radio because the electric motors generate so much crosstalk and they don't want to shield them properly. Evidently, it's going to be more money. I know it sounds crazy, but they're always looking
Starting point is 00:56:03 where they can just shave a couple of pennies even or a couple of dollars. So if you could do a cheaper radio that doesn't have AM on it and you don't have to do all that troublesome shielding, they'd be more than happy to take it out just for economic reasons. But yeah, it does have political implications because of that. What Ford did was they replied and they said, well, um, you know, we have to take it out for EVs. We're going to take it out for all of our cars. Remember Ford had the problems with the exploding Pintos being hit from the back because they didn't want to put in like a $20 part to, uh, protect the gas tank. Uh, they're not going to put any extra shielding to protect AM radio, talk radio either.
Starting point is 00:56:47 But what they said was that you will be able to, you can stream radio. They said a lot of AM radio stations are streaming their content. And we got a lot of people who stream, who have internet radio that carry this program. And so they said, well, you can stream the content. Even AM radios are streaming the content, but there's a lot of other streamers out there. And so they were looking at it and saying that we think that's what people are going to do. But again, you can go to K-A-R-L or K-A-R-L.2, and you'll find that information there. Jason Barker, when I was talking about the the down syndrome he said um the struggle that we go
Starting point is 00:57:27 through to bring us closer to god if we stand by principle and stay the course it's like a forging a blade that's true that's true you have to fire it up and then quench it to get it hard then temper it to keep it from breaking it's very hard on the steel, but what comes out is incredibly strong. Great analogy. Great analogy, Jason. We've got just a couple of more emails here. Ohio Constitutional Amendment. I want to pass this on to you as well.
Starting point is 00:57:58 This is sent from a listener, Tom. Thank you, Tom, for sending this. He said, there is a petition in Ohio for a state constitutional amendment which would read, the, for sending this. He said there is a petition in Ohio for a state constitutional amendment which would read the medical right to refuse. Isn't it amazing that we have to put special legal protections in, for example, the right to try? If I want to try a drug, you've got a terminal illness, and if I want to try a drug, why should that be prohibited to me? You know, like even ivermectin.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Why should that be prohibited? An off-label like even ivermectin. Why should that be prohibited? An off-label use of a drug that the FDA itself has approved. And so, you know, they keep a close rein on all these, you know, purported cancer treatments and things like that. And so, you know, there was legislation to try to give us a right to try it. Well, how about a right to refuse as well? And that's what they're doing at the Ohio State thing. Here's what it says, two sections to it.
Starting point is 00:58:49 An individual's right to refuse any medical procedure, treatment, injection, vaccine, prophylactic, pharmaceutical, or medical device shall be absolute. Number two, no law, rule, regulation, person, employer, entity, or health care provider shall require, mandate, or coerce any person to receive or use a medical procedure, treatment, injection, vaccine, prophylactic, pharmaceutical, or medical device, nor shall they discriminate against the individual who exercises this right. That's very good because you notice that it says no employer, no employer, entity, anything like that, right?
Starting point is 00:59:35 The only thing I would add to that is just to be more explicit because they're always looking for wiggle room when somebody wants to test these laws. I would add to that a treaty because we know the WHO is busy with their little treaties are busy with their little rules and all the rest of this stuff. So no law rule regulation or treaty or person or employer or entity, any of that stuff and all the rest of this stuff. I think that's a great idea. Great idea.
Starting point is 00:59:58 So that's in Ohio and it's a petition for a constitutional amendment. So if you're in Ohio, support that. If you're not in Ohio, get somebody in your state to support something like that and introduce that as well. Let's see, Eric Gavarmi, thank you very much for the tip. I appreciate that. He says, David, in 2017, the Norwegian Prime Minister, Erna Solberg, in Davos there.
Starting point is 01:00:27 She said, quote, how to scare the world in a pandemic. And the clip is still on YouTube. Would love to hear your comment on it. Oh, that's yeah. 2017. This is, you know, they war game, this thing going back to, uh, 2001, two months before, dark winter. And again, I was told about that time that there was a lot of chatter.
Starting point is 01:00:55 And it was Goat Tree who told me. So there's a lot of chatter about dark winter too. Uh-oh. And I think that's what we went through. It was a war game. And they're going to do more. Who knows? Maybe at some point they'll do a real plague, but it was another level of war game.
Starting point is 01:01:13 You were gamed. We were all gamed to one degree or the other, as they ran this thing through. Even if we didn't believe it, we got played, uh, because they affected our lives, whether we went along with them or not. Uh, solo cat, 1980 vehicle manufacturers are using a lame excuse for removing AM radio. Yes, it is their true intent. It's a sensor conservative radio. Uh, it is a lame excuse. Absolutely is a lame excuse. And, um, uh, anyway, um, uh, you will still be able to get AM radio, but as they pointed out in the articles i had
Starting point is 01:01:45 a lot of people listen to am radio it's more steps to do it might be difficult for somebody to figure it out uh because you know they we're gonna have to get an app uh that's going to stream it you know they have to go to the station to find it or something like that or you know you have to get something that's going to pull in am radio for you but yeah they don't like am radio they don't like broad see this is the key um i really like streaming because we do that a lot like the streaming stations that have it out there but again uh this is the other part of this that is beyond conservative radio is they want to um channel everything into the internet so they can shut that down as well even to the extent you know on saturday um
Starting point is 01:02:34 angry tiger talking to a travis said hey you notice this they got the bank of international settlement saying they want to do a paper cbdc a paper cbd? What do you think that's for? Well, again, they want to reset the financial system, but my opinion about that was they want to reset the financial system to new currencies. They want it global. That's why the Bank of International Settlement, the central bank of central banks is talking about this. But they also need to pull the plug on the internet at some point in time to create total chaos with us they'll still have their communications going but they want us totally reliant on the internet so they can completely shut our lives down and shut down our supply chains
Starting point is 01:03:18 and keep us in the dark can you imagine how the fear will multiply when you can't hear am radio well because they put am radio out or fm or whatever that's that's what they want to do they want to have a monopoly and central control of everything whether it's energy or whether it's information or broadcasting stuff that's the key thing about that all right we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back stuff. That's the key thing about that. All right, we're going to take a quick break, and we will be right back. And we are the sons, yes we are the sons, the sons of liberty ¶¶ Liberty, it's your move. You're listening to The David Knight Show.
Starting point is 01:05:08 What you're about to hear are the sounds of metal BBs striking the side of a tin can. For every BB that strikes, it represents 10,000 lives lost in the wars of America's past. 10,000 lives for every BB. This is the reality of what is occurring in your country. The American Revolution. The Civil War. World War I. World War I World War II
Starting point is 01:05:50 The Korean Conflict The Conflict in Vietnam September 11th and the War on Terror. Since 1973, the War on the Unborn Child. 1,5 liter oliepulver Yeah, pretty amazing. Pretty amazing, isn't it? Yeah, God help us. I don't know. What do you think God thinks of a country that does something like that?
Starting point is 01:07:05 Each one of those BBs, 10,000 lives that you heard there. That's from Steve Swan sent that to me. Thank you, Steve. Let's talk about abortion. There's a story on LifeSite News, a late-term abortionist, Warren Hearn, admits being a stone-cold killer for 50 years, and he has no regrets. With the fall of Ro roe v wade journalists are working to lionize abortionists who were presented as the heroic defenders of reproductive rights on the front lines of a heated culture war the latest is a profile of one of america's most notorious abortionists warren hearn in the atlantic Hearn literally wrote the book on abortion. It's titled Abortion Practice.
Starting point is 01:07:50 He has been blunt about what he does. Destroying babies in the womb at 22, 25, or even 30 weeks can be hard work. He says the sensations of dismemberment, he remembers, flow through the forceps like an electric current. Wow. He grabs a hold of the baby and it is struggling to break free, as we saw in that animated film, The Procedure. He can feel that. And it took him quite a while to sear his conscience like a hot iron
Starting point is 01:08:26 so he doesn't feel that electric current anymore. He's numbed himself to it now. Hearn wants us to know that he doesn't kill babies, he kills fetuses. Semantics. Semantics. It is only a baby if he or she survives the pregnancy, he said, and if the baby gets around him, survival is unlikely, even if they survive his attempts to rip them apart or to burn them with chemicals. At age 84, he is still running his abortion clinic in Boulder, Colorado, and there are no restrictions on abortion in Colorado. Elaine Godfrey interviewed him for The Atlantic,
Starting point is 01:09:12 and she is happy, says LifeSite News, she is happy to assist him in his dehumanization of babies. He referred to babies up to 13 weeks in the womb as resembling, quote, a small clot of phlegm or an alien-like ball of flesh. This is so far from the truth that he is lying intentionally. Any pregnancy website will show you that a baby at 13 weeks and much earlier bears no resemblance whatsoever to those descriptions.
Starting point is 01:09:50 She does, however, admit that the late-term abortions that he carries out are a different matter, and that they, quote, result in the removal of a body that, if you saw it, would inspire a sharp pang of recognition. She said pictures of these bodies can, quote, be difficult to look at for long. This is why they work so hard to make sure that nobody shows up in front of an abortion clinic with a picture of aborted babies. This is why Fox News would fire Matt Drudge for even showing the picture of a living baby reaching up and grabbing the pinky of the doctor
Starting point is 01:10:28 who was working on him in the womb. They don't want you to see the truth. They don't want you to see the ultrasounds, the 4D ultrasounds, the 3D ultrasounds, or the 4D that's moving. They don't want you to see the pictures of what they have killed. A late-term abortion will cost about $6,000.
Starting point is 01:10:51 He finds the baby on ultrasound and then injects her in the heart with digoxin in order to induce fetal demise, he says. I will induce fetal demise. We would just say he's killing a baby. But he uses these phrases. Fetal demise, he says. I will induce fetal demise. We would just say he's killing a baby. But he uses these phrases. You see, this is what the left, what deceivers, what liars, what criminals always do. Induce fetal demise.
Starting point is 01:11:27 The cervix is then dilated over several days, and he removes the baby. He says sometimes a baby will be whole, intact. Other times he has to remove it in parts. If the patients ask, a nurse will wrap the fetus in a blanket to hold or present a set of handprints, handprints, unique fingerprints too, or footprints, also unique to each and every baby, for the patient to take home. Some of the women that Godfrey interviewed referred to their late-term abortions as mercy killings. One told her bluntly, I put my baby down. It's euthanasia. That's the kind of killing it is. But I would do it a million times if I had to, she said.
Starting point is 01:12:10 As the woman at the abortion clinic said to Karen, I kill my kids. She said it like that. Yeah, get out of here. You're trying to stop people from killing their kids.
Starting point is 01:12:25 That's what I do. Half or more of Hearn's patients, by his own admission, are procuring late-term abortions, despite there being nothing wrong with the baby. Hearn doesn't care if the babies he kills could survive outside the womb. He, quote, believes that the viability of a fetus is determined not by gestational age, but by a woman's willingness to carry it. viability of a fetus is determined not by gestational age, but by a woman's willingness to carry it.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Once or twice, he said, during a procedure, at 15 or 16 weeks, he used forceps to remove a fetus with a still beating heart. 15 or 16 weeks. This is what Trump would support, and Lindsey Graham and other people who want to federalize this. They criticized DeSantis and others who have put in six weeks because that's when the heart starts beating. As I pointed out, by this time, the heart has beaten millions of times. So once or twice, he said, he did the procedure of 15 or 16 weeks, he used the forceps to remove a baby with a
Starting point is 01:13:28 still beating heart. And this is quoting from the article. The heart thumped for only a few seconds before stopping. He said, but for a long time after, a vision of that fetus would wake him up from sleep. He could see it in his mind. The inches long body and his heart beating, beating, beating, unquote. He said that. And they reported that in the Atlantic.
Starting point is 01:14:04 But now he has hardened himself to that. He didn't quit. Eventually he got used to it, no matter how heinous the crime. You can get used to it. Mass murderers get used to it. He's a mass murderer. I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:14:23 He may have hardened himself to it for now, but he will be haunted by this for eternity. For eternity. I'll say, you know, anyone who's had an abortion, you've been deceived. Maybe you wanted to do it at the time, and now you have changed. You know, there's healing and there's forgiveness in Christ, but that comes from repentance and confession and regret, and this guy has no repentance, no regret. He's confessing it. He has no regrets.
Starting point is 01:14:59 There is forgiveness and there is healing for people who have done this and have turned from this, but not for the people who have not repented of this. The bad dreams eventually stopped. The blood he shed congealed, scabbed over, hardened. He even wrote a paper on accepting that abortion is an act of destruction, which angered his other abortionists. He knows what he's doing and he's embracing it. His absolutism is such that twice he has done sex-selective abortions, once killing a baby girl in the
Starting point is 01:15:41 womb because the parents didn't want a baby girl. In one of his recent books, Homo Ecofocus, right? What is that? About the ecology, right? I think. I'm guessing. I didn't look up ecofocus. But he writes that human beings are a cancer on the planet. I would assume that from the context. And that population growth will eventually end life on Earth. Do you see how these people are always coming together?
Starting point is 01:16:10 It always comes back to depopulation and their desire to kill everybody. Regardless of which of the MacGuffins you're talking about. Certainly it's always been there openly from the beginning of the climate MacGuffin. You have people like Paul Ehrlich talking about the population bomb and how we got to get rid of people. We're killing the planet and so forth. That was the fundamental basis of that first Earth Day. And the first 10 years or so, actually about eight years, I think, that they were pursuing global cooling and then they flipped the script. But it's still there, the basis of all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:45 It was there at the basis of the COVID MacGuffin because that's what the shot was. That shot, that Trump shot, that genetic code injection is a depopulation tool. It's there at the center of all of their agendas to kill humanity, to wipe people off of the face of the earth. And it is a satanic agenda. It's the agenda of Satan from the very beginning. So anyway, he says, despite that, he insisted to the writer for The Atlantic that he is not engaged in population control. But as they say in this article, on that point, he is not engaged in population control. But as they say in this article, on that point, he is not convincing.
Starting point is 01:17:31 And so we have an interview with Donald Trump from The Messenger where they really press him on abortion. And they talk to him about a lot of stuff. I mean, they talk to him about the election. They talk to him about DeSantis and everything. But I'm only interested in what he had to say about abortion because the rest of this stuff is a bunch of horse race.
Starting point is 01:17:46 It's a bunch of horse excrement, if you will. But it is interesting to see what he has to say about this. He said, the messenger asked him, he said, abortion is a big issue that you talked about in 2022, when you said that Republicans didn't really have the right message. They didn't know how to talk about the issue properly. So what is the right way for a Republican to talk about abortion in the 2024 elections? Yeah, listen to the way that he talks about it.
Starting point is 01:18:15 How do we know? Well, I'll do the right thing. Don't worry about it. I'm not going to be specific about anything. Well, just trust me. I'll do the right thing. I play 4D chess. I win.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Well, here's what he replied to that. He said, well, pretty much what I said in the CNN town. I play 4D chess. I win. Well, here's what he replied to that. He said, well, pretty much what I said in the CNN town hall a couple nights ago. First of all, I'm a believer in the exceptions, right? I believe in the exceptions. The exceptions to what? The exceptions to allowing a baby to live. He said, the other thing I really believe is that the radicals are people that would have a baby destroyed, killed at the end of the ninth month,
Starting point is 01:18:52 or even after birth. So, you know, you want to do it at 33 weeks? Fine. 24 weeks? Fine. 15 weeks? Fine. 16 weeks?
Starting point is 01:19:03 Fine. Okay. Not at nine months. Trump would draw the line at nine months. And he would draw the line in terms of killing babies after they're born. Oh, he's a real pro-life advocate, isn't he? This is the guy that Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council and the president of the Susan B. Anthony pro-life organization,
Starting point is 01:19:27 said he gets it. He gets it. He's good. Yeah. Sorry. I'm not signing on to that. I'm not signing on to those two organizations. I'm not signing on to any of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:19:41 And so the messenger then comes back and says, well, not to be argumentative about this. Please don't get offended, you know, because I know how easily you are offended. Not to be argumentative about this, but do any women really get abortions at eight or nine months if it's not because of the life or the health of the mother? Trump says, yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:19:57 You might not know about it. And then the messenger, I don't know who, male or female, what this was, that's the publication's name. The interviewer says, it sounds shocking. Trump says, I know it's shocking, but it's happening. For 50 years, they've been trying to get rid of Roe v. Wade, and I was able to do that. Nobody else could have done that but me. And he said, it gave us tremendous power of negotiation.
Starting point is 01:20:25 See, that's what it meant to him. It meant power. It meant votes. It meant negotiation. The man has absolutely no sense of principle, of morality. He cares for nothing other than his own perceived self-interest. That's all he will act for. That or revenge, which is what his lawyer, Ty Cobb, said about him.
Starting point is 01:20:52 A deeply wounded narcissist incapable of acting except in his own perceived self-interest or out of revenge. It gave us a tremendous power of negotiation. He said, now the pro-life movement has the power to negotiate a deal acceptable to them. Hey, Trump, it's not a deal. It's a baby. It's a living person. It's not your deal. It's not on the negotiating table. We're talking about what happens here on the operating table. You're negotiating a baby's life away for your political power.
Starting point is 01:21:30 That's what's going on here. It's disgusting to see it. I am as disgusted with politicians like Trump as I am with that proud abortionist. Because both of them have consciences that have been seared with a hot iron. Messenger says DeSantis signed a six-week abortion restriction in Florida. Do you think he was right to do that? Trump said, well, he has to do what he has to do. If you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don't even know if he knew what he was doing.
Starting point is 01:22:06 But he signed six weeks. And many people within the pro-life movement feel that was too harsh. Really? Well, then you need to get out of the movement. Because you're about politics. You're not about life. You are pro-politics. You're not pro-life.
Starting point is 01:22:27 These things are not negotiable extremism in defense of life is no vice moderation in defense of life is no virtue either the messenger said what do you think is that uh he So he said, some of the people in the pro-life movement think that that was too harsh. Harsh. What do you think? Is it too harsh for you? Well, I'm looking at all the alternatives. I'm looking at many alternatives. But I was able to get us to the table by terminating Roe v. Wade.
Starting point is 01:23:01 That's the most important thing that's ever happened for the pro-life movement. Except he really does support Roe v. Wade. That's the most important thing that's ever happened for the pro-life movement. Except he really does support Roe v. Wade in principle. What changed with Roe v. Wade? Roe v. Wade didn't stop any abortions. Roe v. not sorry, Dobbs that overturned Roe v. Wade. Dobbs did not stop any abortions. Dobbs did not redefine when life begins that was some of the things that the establishment was holding out for they said well you know here's the problem with roe v white medical technology has advanced since it was done in 1973 and so it you know when we draw the line as to when we're going to allow abortions, we need to draw that line further down at an earlier state because medical technology is capable of,
Starting point is 01:23:53 um, you know, uh, kids are viable, survivable at a much earlier age. And so you had a lot of people saying, well, we just need to update Roe v.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Wade and we need to move that line down. But that's not what Dobbs is about. Dobbs was saying that the Supreme Court never had the authority to draw the line as to when abortion could be done. That was not something that the federal government had any legitimate authority to do. That was something that needed to be done by the states. Why did they say that? Well, because they read the Constitution and ruled on the Constitution on the Tenth Amendment. Anything that you've not been specifically given, you don't have that responsibility, that ability.
Starting point is 01:24:40 That still belongs to the states and to the people. If it hasn't been expressly given to you, you don't have that power to make that determination as to when life begins. That was what it was about. And so then you had all different states setting the time period at different time levels. But what Dobbs did was to get rid of the federalization of that determination. And so Trump doesn't oppose Roe v. Wade. He supports it. The Family Research Council does not oppose Roe v. Wade.
Starting point is 01:25:15 They support it in principle. The Susan B. Anthony pro-life people do not oppose Roe v. Wade. They support it in principle. They just want it to be federalized again. And they're naive enough to think that once it is federalized, that they'll be able to set the line at an acceptable level. But they won't. Why? Because you've already got people like Trump negotiating away. People like Lindsey Graham. Too harsh. Too harsh. Harsh? Harsh? What are we talking about that's harsh? We're talking about saving a baby's life. How is that harsh?
Starting point is 01:25:48 Well, it's not harsh. It's not about saving a baby's life to him. It's about his political power. That's why he's saying harsh. It's simply a cold, calculating, political position. That's all it is for Trump. That's all it ever is for Trump. and for the people who suck up to him in the media, maybe even people that you voted for, says Tucker Carlson are telling
Starting point is 01:26:15 you that this isn't the most dangerous thing that the world has ever seen. But Tucker Carlson says, I'm telling you that right now. And I'm going to tell that person you voted for, who I won't mention, because I don't want to get in trouble with Trump, and I don't want to get in trouble with his audience. Trump again refuses to clarify his stance on the federal abortion ban during a hostile CNN town hall, as CNN pointed out. And that was a follow-up interview after the CNN town hall.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Nobody can pin him down on this. In the town hall, he had previously said, I'm looking at a solution that's going to work. It's a very complex issue. No, it isn't. No, it isn't. This whole thing of setting, you know, the dates and everything, this is exactly what Solomon did. Do you understand this is a living baby? Do you care for this living baby? I'll cut it in half. No, said the person who really cared about the life of the baby. Not the Family Research
Starting point is 01:27:12 Council. Not Susan B. Anthony. Not Donald Trump. But the person who really cares about the life of the baby. Doesn't want to cut the baby's life. Doesn't want to cut the baby in half. The real mother said to Solomon, stop. I will lose my child to save its life.
Starting point is 01:27:36 I won't have, I'll give my child up to this woman to save my child's life. Will Trump give up his political power? Will the Family Research Council or Susan B. Anthony give up their political power? No, because that's what it's about for them as well. It's not about a baby's life, and we can determine that just as easily as Solomon did. You look at who cares for the baby's life,
Starting point is 01:27:58 it's not hard to figure it out. Not hard at all. It's the person who cares for that baby's life during his cnn appearance uh the uh collins who was the one who was interviewing him um asked trump a total of seven times to clarify whether he would support a federal abortion ban. And what he kept saying was, we now have a great negotiating ability. Some people are six weeks. Some people are three weeks.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Some people are two weeks. It depends on what the deal is. No, there ain't anybody talking about that, Trump. They want it at 36 weeks, 16 weeks, 24 weeks, something like that. They're not talking about two or three weeks. Completely misrepresents it. By the way, LifeSite News sees this hypocrisy from a Susan B. Anthony pro-life American president as well. She met with Trump earlier this month.
Starting point is 01:29:04 She had previously called his stance morally indefensible. But after meeting with him, it's just great. This guy, he's so powerful. So persuasive. We just need to listen to him. Well, no. You were right the first time. It was morally indefensible. And for you to go along with him is also morally indefensible. And so WND.com asked the question, is DeSantis' culture war, quote-unquote,
Starting point is 01:29:37 is that a distraction from economic issues? Because that's what Peter Thiel said. I told you about that, the interview they had with Barry Weiss. Peter Thiel, early Silicon Valley and only one who came out for a while in support of Trump, billionaire. So the focus
Starting point is 01:29:55 on identity politics, on the woke religion, he says this is probably a distraction from the stagnation, the economic stagnation. It's a distraction from the stagnation, the economic stagnation. It's a distraction from economics, he said. And of course, he was talking about Ron DeSantis. We've seen Peter Thiel.
Starting point is 01:30:17 We've seen one multi-billionaire addict to money after another. You know, yeah, I give lots of money to the Republican Party, but hey, we got to stop this talk about abortion. I would just stop this talk about you know these pedophile trannies i just stop that that's just a culture war i don't want to let's focus on what's important to me as a billionaire and that's money because i love money and that's the root of all evil that addiction to the money uh teal is missing the point altogether, says Joy O'Curran at WND.com. Teal is missing the point altogether, promoting the damaging mindset that has gotten us here in the first place. And by here, she says, I am referring to our crumbling economy, our morally bankrupt and partisan federal
Starting point is 01:31:00 government, our sold-out legacy media, and our failing grasp of the rule of law. Well, that's true. How was it that Solzhenitsyn put it? We have forgotten God. That's the root of all that stuff. In a letter, she says to the Manhattan militia, dated October 11th, 1798, John Adams, the U.S.'s second president, said, quote, She said, I've said it before and I'll say it again. We don't have a political problem.
Starting point is 01:31:42 We don't have an economic problem in this country. We have a political problem. We don't have an economic problem in this country. We have a spiritual problem. The stain of it shows most deeply in the fact that every facet of our society has succumbed to rampant immorality. The only answer is to fight that battle head on without getting distracted. Sin has its consequences, and we're seeing that today. We'll be right back. In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. You're listening to The David Knight Show. My son says, so according to Trump, the pro-life movement wants a longer window where it's legal to end life.
Starting point is 01:33:00 They don't want it to be too harsh. Dingo Boss says, our lack of protection for the unborn will be our downfall, judgment and fall. Yes, it will. And Assyrian Girl says, we know what God thinks about this. Look at what he did to his own people for sacrificing their children to Moloch. That's right. Those things were written for our understanding and as an example to us. And we choose not to learn from it. Here's something else that was and as an example to us. And we choose not to learn from it. Here's something else that was written as an example for us. Can we learn a lesson from this? A student op-ed piece says that poor women should choose abortion and calls it a responsible
Starting point is 01:33:39 choice. This is coming from collegefix.com. Indiana University senior Jared Quigg has previously said that people should read Karl Marx. He's an evangelist for Marxism. But College Fix says maybe he needs to read Jonathan Swift himself. Quigg's Mother's Day-themed opinion piece
Starting point is 01:34:03 in the student newspaper argued that the responsible thing for pregnant women who are poor is to have an abortion. These are the talking points, have always been the talking points of Planned Parenthood. You know when they get somebody in who is poor they'll tell them do you realize how much it's going to cost you to raise this child and they'll start talking about every possible thing you can imagine. You know you got to feed them, do you realize how much it's going to cost you to raise this child? And they'll start talking about every possible thing you can imagine. You got to feed them. You got to clothe them.
Starting point is 01:34:29 You're going to have to pay for school supplies. You even got to, you know, anything that they can imagine. And then they total it up. You know, let's do like 18 years of this and multiply this out. And they give them a big bottom line figure. Oh, look look millions of dollars here i guess maybe whatever it is yeah you got that kind of money to have a kid no you don't well you should abort it i mean they've been saying the same type of thing for a long time but
Starting point is 01:34:54 this is a college kid who is a a marxist evangelist he writes the reactionaries love moaning about individual responsibility. Now, why are you pregnant in the first place? Is it not the responsible thing for a poor mother to have an abortion if she wants one, rather than bankrupt herself and her children? Conservatives would deny a woman's right to be responsible. No. I mean, there are consequences for things that you do. And even if you don't want to be responsible for the child,
Starting point is 01:35:32 and even if you don't want the consequences, there are people who will take that child and raise that child as their own. That's called adoption. Have you ever heard of that? Now motherhood for many is an act born of coercion, not love. And it can lead to financial ruin, he says. Well, he's not the only one. It's not just a little Marxist student in a backwater university.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Sorry, Indiana University. I don't know if it's backwater or not. I don't know anything about it, it says. It's a backhanded comment, I guess. Canadian academics are writing essentially the same thing uh but in a different way they're arguing in favor of euthanasia for poor people you see if you're going to kill a baby because hey i'm poor i can't raise it well then shouldn't we have euthanasia for poor people as well you see when you start talking about the sanctity of life,
Starting point is 01:36:26 it's the sanctity of life for everybody. It's not just babies. And it's not just a particular age. It's not just before birth. It's the sanctity of life for everybody. And if you throw that away, they will be coming for you as well. Pastor Martin Niemöller would explain that to us as well. So yeah, Canadian
Starting point is 01:36:48 academics. This is why I call colleges the seminaries of Satan. As support for assisted suicide in Canada climbs despite an excruciating series of stories reporting that the poor and the disabled are opting for lethal injections out of pure desperation, we are witnessing the emergence of a truly post-Christian culture, writes LifeSite News. As a headline in the UK magazine, the Spectator asked last year, why is Canada euthanizing the poor?
Starting point is 01:37:18 Well, the response from some bioethicists appears to be, well, why not? In fact, in a new paper by two so-called bioethicists appears to be, well, why not? In fact, in a new paper by two so-called bioethicists, they have absolutely no ethics, at the University of Toronto, they make the case for euthanizing the poor. And they said it should be socially acceptable. One of them wrote in the Journal of Medical Ethics, this is how far we've fallen.
Starting point is 01:37:45 You see, once you remove God and you forget God from ethics, this is what you wind up with. You forget about God, you remove God from society, you remove God from your ethical calculations. They said to force people who are already in unjust social circumstances to have to wait until those social circumstances improve or for the possibility of public charity, but unreliably occurs when particularly distressing cases become public. That is unacceptable. A harm reduction approach acknowledges that the recommended solution is necessarily an imperfect one, a lesser evil between two or more less than ideal options. So in other words, let's kill people. Not just babies, not just the terminally ill, not just kids who have Down syndrome or who have some other health issues
Starting point is 01:38:42 where we might argue about quality of life. No, now we have another reason for killing people. They don't have enough money. Hmm. So I guess we don't have to kill Peter Thiel or Elon Musk or Donald Trump or these billionaire GOP donors. They're safe.
Starting point is 01:38:59 They got lots of money. As a matter of fact, Peter Thiel is going to pay somebody to freeze his body and then presumably in the future when they can cure him, somebody is going to, out of the kindness of their heart, thaw him out and heal him. Where are they going to get those kinds of charitable thoughts
Starting point is 01:39:18 and the kind of society that these billionaires are building? We just don't think that the fact that social conditions are contributing to make their lives intolerable means that they don't have the wherewithal to make that choice. People can make their own determination about whether their lives are worth living, and we should respect that. Did they respect that over the last three years? I had many people, and this is why I want to cover this. I mean, not just to show people that if you don't respect life at a particular age,
Starting point is 01:39:53 you won't respect it at any age under any conditions. But didn't we see this over the last three years? I've had many occasions to my face, you know, when I wouldn't wear the mask, I wouldn't social distance, I wouldn't stay at home, I wouldn't do anything they said, I wouldn't take the job. Oh, you're suicidal. You're going to kill yourself and everybody else, right? You're suicidal.
Starting point is 01:40:18 They wanted to stop me from committing suicide by not wearing a mask. So why is it that they want to encourage people to commit suicide if they're poor? Are they really concerned about that? Were they really concerned about me? No, they just, they demanded to protect me. The same people who are pushing suicide to the poor. It was never about that. It was always about the depopulation agenda.
Starting point is 01:40:48 And it was always about their power. They were just negotiating with me about their power. You know, the same way that Trump negotiates about power with these babies as the bargaining chips. Peter Singer says that killing the unborn is like switching off a computer. Why would he say that? Well, this is another one of these so-called bioethicists who support euthanasia and abortion and all the rest of this stuff. This atheist bioethicist. And so he was speaking to Yahoo News Australia
Starting point is 01:41:27 about artificial intelligence. And at what point do we recognize the personhood of a computer program? The same guy who denies the personhood of human beings. And he does have some circumstances there where he would recognize, under certain conditions perhaps, the personhood of an AI program. But he will never accept the personhood of a baby.
Starting point is 01:41:57 He said under certain circumstances, the AI should be protected. During the conversation, Singer said it should be illegal to switch off artificial intelligence under some circumstances, but in others, he said it was comparable to an abortion and therefore it should be allowed. Think about that. We protect anything. We protect any animal. We get very concerned about the baby whales or baby seals or whatever. We get more upset about the fact that Fauci was experimenting in a heinous way. And we should be excited. I'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned about the needless torture and suffering that he was inflicting on dogs, puppies for his own sadistic curiosity. And that's what we're talking about
Starting point is 01:42:43 here. This is not science. This is Nazi science. This is Joseph Mengele science. This is, oh, let's play around with some twins and see what we can do to one and not the other. That's not science. It is sadistic, wicked curiosity is all it is. And so we'll get very upset about that.
Starting point is 01:43:06 We won't get upset, though, when he orders specific baby parts. And what he is ordering is the murder, the targeted murder of a baby at a certain age of development. So he can then take those baby parts and make humanized mice. The public doesn't care about that. They get really upset about the torturing of puppies, but they really don't care about his humanized mice made with baby parts. They really don't care.
Starting point is 01:43:38 Isn't that amazing? And now we will not just project this protection onto other... I talked to Handy, who I Handy is. You'll find him on Substack. He sent me that article I talked about last week. We have the European Union is very concerned about chicken sexing, you know, where they look at. They spread the wings and they look, oh, this is a male. We want only females because they're going to lay eggs.
Starting point is 01:44:02 So you throw the male chicks over. They destroy them. Var various ways of destroying them. They try to be humane, but they destroy them. So PETA is very upset about that, but not just PETA. It's created a big issue in the European Union. So they said, well, let's not kill these baby chicks. Let's abort them. But if we're going to abort them, we need to be able to determine at what point a baby chicken feels pain. These people who don't care at all about at what point
Starting point is 01:44:32 does a baby feel pain. They're concerned about the chickens that they want to abort and when they feel pain. And so here's a guy, well, what if we abort artificial intelligence? Well, that should be prohibited under some circumstances. But, you know, it could be that if it is under certain circumstances, it might be comparable to an abortion of a baby. So, yeah, we could kill the artificial intelligence just like we do a baby. This is how absurd this has become. Artificial intelligence is not human by any means. Never will be.
Starting point is 01:45:03 A singer was asked how we should treat AI if it becomes self-aware. He said it would have the status of other self-aware sentient beings. Except for babies, of course. He said all things being equal, we should not switch it off if it has become self-aware. Yet it can sometimes be allowed, he said, if the program is stopped before the AI becomes self-aware. Yet it can sometimes be allowed, he said, if the program is stopped before the AI becomes self-aware. Even if the programmers know it will eventually become self-aware, I think that
Starting point is 01:45:34 it's more like terminating a pregnancy. So I would say it's okay to turn off an AI that predictably will become self-aware if you leave it running, but it isn't self-aware as of yet. Of course, killing a human being in an abortion, says WND.com, killing a human being in an abortion is significantly different than switching off a computer. Abortion procedures intentionally and directly end the life of a living person through suction, poisoning, dismemberment, or lethal injection. Once destroyed, that person will never exist again. By the way, they forgot to add that artificial intelligence is not going to, if it were, a sentient being, it would not feel any pain. That's what they're worried about with aborting the baby chickens. An AI program is artificial. It is not alive.
Starting point is 01:46:25 It will never be alive. It can be recreated again once the computer is turned back on. Singer additionally claimed that if AI becomes morally superior to humans or has more intelligence, there should be protections in place to prevent humans from destroying it.
Starting point is 01:46:41 He said, if we're really confident about its moral values, then I think we should protect it against humans trying to turn it off, he said. Peter Singer needs to be careful because by the same standard that he judges artificial intelligence, does it have moral values? Perhaps he will be judged by that same standard by God. Does Peter Singer have moral values? Or can God just switch him off? So the problem with this line of thinking is, I'm sorry, this is WND commenting, the problem with this line of thinking is that as intelligent and as ethical as AI programs
Starting point is 01:47:22 may become, it will never be alive. It will never have the intrinsic moral value that every living human being inherently possesses. And it's not, it's even a different kind of intelligence. As I pointed out before, they can be phenomenally good at doing something, but should we be that impressed about it? You know, quite frankly, um, you know, you play a video computer game. Let's go back to something as simple as Pong because I haven't played video games in a long time. That's my experience with video games. But you know, you have Pong. It can move that puck and everything. It can move it really fast. Sometimes video game programs can move stuff a lot faster than humans can.
Starting point is 01:47:59 And if they didn't slow them down, you'd never be able to beat them. So they're really good at moving stuff around. Does that make them smart? Does that make them human? Does that make them sentient? Of course not. None of that. The reality is that all people, regardless of their abilities, have the inherent right to life. And this is what they are so intent on removing from all of us. So Narrow Way, Narrow Gate Ministries says, pride pride and arrogance roe v wade was overturned because it did nothing to stop abortion it put it back in the hands of the states where it is more volatile and to attempt codification into law well that's true i will never be uh uh somebody who says that uh well because we didn't stop abortions um with uh a law that we should just get rid of the law i don't think that's what he's saying there
Starting point is 01:48:55 either but we need to understand that even though there are laws against murder we still have a lot of murders don't we that doesn't mean that we should give up on prosecuting murders as the Soros district attorneys have doesn't mean that we should stop punishing crime we need to do a better job of punishing the crime not less of a job we're going to take a break and we'll be right back Thank you. You're listening to The David Knight Show. Welcome back. Let's talk a little bit about money, as we've talked about how it's not the most important thing, but money is important. Just don't love it.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Don't become addicted by it. Don't become controlled by it. That is a struggle for all of us, isn't it? It's an ongoing struggle, and it's just a really difficult thing for the people who have been injected with so much of that drug that they just can't control themselves. I mean, it's like, you know, the, uh, the major temptation.
Starting point is 01:50:50 I do not envy people like Peter Thiel or Donald Trump. They have been injected with money and power and it absolutely controls them. Florida governor DeSantis has signed the CBDC bill into law that we've talked about before, uh, restricting some uses of, uh, us and foreign CBDCs again, uh, as he pointed out, he saw this happening with several States, a couple of dozen States. Kristi Noem said, uh, yeah, this, I vetoed this bill where they are trying to prohibit the use of Bitcoin, but then accept CBDC as legitimate currency, doing it through the UCC code. And this has been put out to at least a couple of dozen states that I know about.
Starting point is 01:51:38 So DeSantis saw that and said, well, I think we'll go the other direction. The new law that he has signed prohibits the use of the U.S. federal CBDC as, quote, money within Florida's Uniform Commercial Code, the UCC. It also bans the use of CBDCs issued by foreign governments and calls on other states to use their commercial codes to institute similar prohibitions. DeSantis said he was spurred into action by Biden's administrative studies of the new financial technology. This is what he did March of last year, where he made a whole government pronouncement. Every government bureaucracy, and they're all under the executive branch, every government bureaucracy would look at one of four different areas to implement CBDC. And so DeSantis said that was the thing that triggered him to take a look at this.
Starting point is 01:52:29 And of course, that was a year ago. The U.S. does. Now, this is interesting because this is reported from Cointelegraph, which is really a cryptocurrency publication. And they push back on this and they say the U.S. does not have a CBDC and there are no current plans to introduce one.
Starting point is 01:52:51 What? That is an outright lie. They even have a name for it. They even call it FedCoin. Fed now, which is the first step, I mean, they've laid out, again, because of this, they've been doing it for a long time.
Starting point is 01:53:15 As a matter of fact, when I was looking for John Kiriakou's comments about Rudy Giuliani charging people for pardons and that sort of thing in the interview that we had, one of the things we were talking about in February, beginning of February, February the 7th, 2022, one of the things we were talking about about in february uh beginning of february the 7th 2022 one of the things we're talking about was the federal government's plans for putting out digital currency it's been around for a while i've been talking about it for a while john kiriaco has been talking about it for a while and so um uh what is it about coin telegraph that they don't get this the infrastructure has been designed it's being implemented and it's being rolled out. The first step of it is the bank to bank stuff that is coming out this summer.
Starting point is 01:53:51 I forget whether it's July or June fed now. And then the next stage, they promise that they're not going to implement fed now. That's what Jerome Powell and the federal reserve say. We're not going to implement it unless Congress asks us to. But we got it all ready to go. They got it named. Everything is ready. And you got Cointelegraph saying
Starting point is 01:54:11 there's no current plans to introduce one? Are you serious? Anyway, they do quote DeSantis. Good quote here. He says, I don't think they would have done that if they don't intend on implementing this. And he said, it will be a massive transfer of power
Starting point is 01:54:30 from consumers to central authority. He's absolutely right on this. Look, I'm not supporting any politician. There are some things that I'm very concerned about with DeSantis on free speech issues. I'm very concerned about E-Verify. I think that is a backdoor way to do all the things that he's concerned about with CBDC. And of course, DeSantis and the Republican legislature in
Starting point is 01:54:51 Florida have passed that E-Verify. I've opposed that for years. But we need to oppose the stuff in terms of talking about and oppose it. right about the cbdc even if it's going to come around the back door and hit you with an e-verify he said i think they want to crowd out and eliminate other types of digital assets like cryptocurrency because they if they can't control because they can't control that and they don't like that he said you started to have a movement among the states to actually add cbdc to their uniform uniform commercial codes that's what i was talking about before that's what he's referencing to as
Starting point is 01:55:30 well this is something he said that was being pushed by a lot of the powers that be to do that quote unquote he said we looked at it and said we're not going to add cbdc central bank digital currency to our commercial code but we also said we need to add protections for floridians against this and so we'll put in the uniform commercial code that cbdc is something that we do not recognize i really liked that you know uh well this guy gets it he gets all the digital ID stuff until they did E-Verify. But, you know, Christine Ohm saw it, talked about it, warned other people about it. As a matter of fact, she went on with Tucker Carlson. See, we got it taken care of.
Starting point is 01:56:16 We vetoed it. Well, not exactly. But, you know, she sounded the warning that it was happening in a lot of other places. DeSantis looked at it and said, oh, okay, so they want to specifically set up CBDC and ban Bitcoin. We'll do it the other way around. The Uniform Law Commission, however, and this is, again, Cointelegraph trying to push back on this stuff.
Starting point is 01:56:40 They say the Uniform Law Commission has taken pains to dispel the idea that it is encouraging the adoption of CBDC. So what's the deal with all these other two dozen bills? Is it a coincidence? Maybe Cointelegraph thinks it's a coincidence. Anyway, this bill stipulates the transactions involving CBDCs will not be afforded the usual UCC protections, says John Montague of Florida-based Montague Law. He says, so it won't be afforded the usual UCC protections, potentially dissuading entities or individuals from engaging in such transactions
Starting point is 01:57:19 with CBDCs. He added, he said, the UCC can establish obligations and alter third-party rights even without their direct contractual involvement. Florida has the authority to alter this definition, and they have done so. So, this is something that needs to be done. Other places I think it would be helpful. We need to do anything that we can to put roadblocks in the way of this. And then we need to also make sure that they haven't created for themselves a secret back door that, you know, when we block off the main road for them coming, that they don't come around the back alley and do the same thing. So as he was talking about the CBDC and talking about how dangerous it was, DeSantis, and we always need to keep this in mind.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Tell other people, as he said, CBDC said, they could block if you filled up your gas tank too much. Hey, we got to fight global warming. You can't do anymore. Or maybe you bought a firearm last week and they don't want you to buy another one this week. Of course, you know, the other part of it is, sorry, you've had too much meat this month you can't buy any more he says sometimes i like
Starting point is 01:58:29 this quote from desantis he said sometimes government will do things where they provide kind of a benevolent rationale for what they're doing but it's nothing more than a wolf in sheep's clothing well i think with central bank digital currency this is a wolf coming as a wolf. It is fundamentally antithetical to a free society. It's exactly right. So he shut down the CBDC, which is a wolf coming as a wolf. But then DeSantis and the Florida legislature pass E-Verify, which is a wolf coming as a sheep, coming in sheep's clothing.
Starting point is 01:59:10 We're going to take a break, and then when we come back, we're going to be joined by Jack Lawson, and we're going to talk about what is happening with the border. Things are getting very dodgy in a lot of different ways throughout the country. We always need to be thinking about the most effective way to protect yourself, to protect your community. That's the key thing, I think, is not to go this alone. Let me just say before we go that when we're talking about the money stuff, and you look at the central control, some states may do some of these things. Hopefully there will be some opposition to the prohibition of cryptocurrencies, but they are moving pretty fast and furious to get rid of all of this stuff. And as one person has written, the entire regulatory structure of the United States is there to try to shut
Starting point is 02:00:05 down a cryptocurrency. This is a man, a John, a tutor Jones who says this, he's an investment person. He says a Bitcoin has a real problem because in the United States you have the entire regulatory apparatus against it. And of course, they can do anything like this to any of the financial aspects. So real money is going to be money that you hold, that you have. And so I would encourage you to take some steps as much as you can to try to protect yourself against what they are trying to establish. So if you need to get gold and silver,
Starting point is 02:00:42 davidknight.gold will take you to TonyArdermanWiseWolf.gold. And it's, again, money, real money is going to be gold and silver. They're going to reset everything, even after they reset the digital currency. They may issue another paper currency for this stuff. That'll be a central bank digital currency. So real money is gold and silver. Constitution recognizes that. Founders of this country recognize that
Starting point is 02:01:07 because they had seen what a worthless piece of paper the continental dollar was. And so real money is gold and silver, and real money is what you hold in your hand. Okay, we're going to take a break, and we'll be right back with our guest, and we're going to talk about some other things that you can do to protect yourself in other ways besides financially.
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Starting point is 02:02:37 Thank you for sharing. If you can't support us financially, please keep us in your prayers. TheDavidKnightShow.com Welcome back. And joining us now is Jack Lawson. He is the author and I should say also editor because he had a lot of contributing experts, many of them special forces people. Two-volume set here, Civil Defense Manual. You can find it at civildefensemanual.com. And I wanted to get Jack on because, you know, you look at this chaos that is being deliberately created by the Biden administration at the border. And right now it's just at the border.
Starting point is 02:03:32 But what happens when it comes to your town? And, of course, it is going to come to all of our towns in one way or the other, most likely, because there's nothing that's being done by anybody to stop any of this stuff. Nobody's turning off the tap. Nobody wants to turn off the magnets that are pulling people in. They don't want to stop any of the things. Nobody's turning off the tap. Nobody wants to turn off the magnets that are pulling people in. They don't want to stop any of the things that are the underlying cause of this. So this is something that is going to spread. Hopefully it's not going to be in your town, but there are some things that you need to think about. And that's one of the things that's good about civil defense manual. It has so many different aspects of life and how
Starting point is 02:04:03 to protect yourself against it. Thank you for joining us, Jack. It's good to have you on again. Good to be on your show, David. I wanted to ask you this because, you know, we also have this case of the rancher in Arizona. He had this group of guys on his, he's right on the border on his private property, and he's had a lot of traffickers coming through and a lot of things like
Starting point is 02:04:24 that. And there's a group of guys that were there and military fatigues. He said he shot a warning shot. He called the police. They came out. They looked all over the place, border patrol. They didn't find anything. Later in the day, he went out and he saw an individual who was dead.
Starting point is 02:04:39 He called him again and they've arrested him. And, you know, he says that he didn't shoot them they didn't find the body there at the initial time he said he was firing over their head i mean this is the type of thing that could essentially be coming to um any of our towns um what do you think about that particular case i mean you know this is a guy he's kind of isolated i know a lot of the stuff that you're talking about is with a community what what would you say to um if you had a chance to money money morning quarterback that uh how would you have done it differently or did he do everything the right way and they're just persecuting him david uh as you know i spent seven years on a uh well it was the third largest police board in the United States.
Starting point is 02:05:30 And what I did was judge the officer involved shooting OIS. That being said, I know a lot about it's been 15 years since I've been on that board. But the basics of self-defense don't really change as far as the mechanics of it. However, I would not want to say much that would affect this rancher's case. When I did a study of an officer- shooting, I listened to tape recordings, 911. I listened to homicide detectives. I would spend sometimes two hours down at the homicide department going through the file before we had the meeting and did a judgment of whether this officer had justifiable cause to use deadly force. And that usually involved firearms. That being said, I really don't have a lot of information on what happened. My understanding was this guy, this rancher was absolutely inundated
Starting point is 02:06:47 with people coming across the border. It's a sad situation. Obviously, part of this woke attitude is to stop your right for self-defense, which to me is a basic human right to use violence. I mean, I don't know what's going to get us to a Star Trek existence, but certainly it's going to be about everything. Set phasers to stun, you know?
Starting point is 02:07:19 Yeah. That's the whole idea of the taser thing. Of course, that can be pretty bad as well under many circumstances. People have died with those tasers. Yeah. I don't know what it'll take. We're a very unique species. I often think if aliens are coming towards the planet Earth that they probably double lock their spaceship doors and take a wide berth around this place.
Starting point is 02:07:42 We have a lot of issues uh people i think it always amazes me the compassion and the goodness in people despite their environment and everything that's going on however uh the the information that i have on this is is something that i'll just tell people this. If you're going to use a firearm, go get some training. Get some training on restraint. Most importantly, look at your instructor. And if he or she, and I've had some good women instructors, if he or she have testosterone or estrogen saturated bodies and are big macho people about this, walk out the door and find somebody else.
Starting point is 02:08:32 Restraint one of the biggest things with firearms. However, I feel so sorry for people. They're so frustrated this border situation is uh something that that should be brought up more than this guy using a firearm to uh to do what he thought is defending himself and and his wife this is a sad situation because uh look at this daniel penny in New York. Oh, yeah. I did what he thought he had to do, and the fault wasn't with Daniel Petty. The fault was with the city of New York. Apparently, this Neely was on the top 50 high-risk people
Starting point is 02:09:21 that were homeless in New York. That's right. Why didn't they do something about it? And it wasn't just that they knew that he was kind of crazy and homeless, but he'd actually physically attack people. He punched down a couple of women. He'd broken the nose of one woman who was 67. I think it was.
Starting point is 02:09:36 And, you know, other bones in her face. He hit her pretty hard. And he had also sucker punched several people, including men, not just women. But I mean, he's literally attacking people. He comes on and that Marine restrained him. And there were other people that were helping him as well. But all they see is a skin color, but they can't see the skin color of the guy who was helping the Marine was also black. Yeah, I think that's obviously what the government propaganda organs,
Starting point is 02:10:06 and that's all the mainstream news media. Thank God for a show like yours where truth and discussion of these issues can get out. But what's the real issue? The real issue with the rancher is a border system that is absolutely open i don't care what anybody says i'm hearing stuff that homeland defense was actually using encrypted messaging to the mexican government some part of it to direct people where uh border patrol agents and uh people work and then you have this farce of 1500 troops being sent there i i don't even know if they took a gun along with any of them uh they're doing data entry work down there yeah and we've seen that type of thing as well with uh governor abbott at one point in time
Starting point is 02:11:00 he sent a whole bunch of state police down to the border and they parked their car in a line but even when they took the picture you could say this is just a little short little line here But you know about a dozen cars. How's that gonna close the border or do anything? It's like you're gonna how many police cars does it take to run across the border of Texas? It's just ridiculous the little virtue signaling that they do but what I was going to talk about I know that that we don't want to do anything It's gonna affect his particular case. And we really don't know all the details, as you pointed out, when you would have an officer shooting or something like that.
Starting point is 02:11:31 You'd gather all the information before you would even, you know, as a preliminary to an investigation. So I'm not talking about that in general. if you have a situation where you've got, um, somebody that's on your property or a group of people on your property, and you have reason to believe that, um, you know, they might be dangerous or, you know, maybe in this particular case, he could see they were even carrying guns. I mean, what is the proper response to do with that? Uh, my belief is that, uh, I've written an essay on this called in defense. I'm turning into a book.
Starting point is 02:12:07 The basics of using a firearm get down to the word danger. If you have danger and you can't retreat any further, then you usually got the use of the justifiable use of force. Take the D away from danger. You have anger. If you've got an attitude in your head, I've actually been, I got in an argument with a person in a restaurant and ask a couple people next to me if they would escort me out.
Starting point is 02:12:44 And I basically whispered to them, look, I've got a firearm. I want to leave. And they did. I haven't got such a big ego that I'm going to get in an argument with somebody. If you get in an argument with somebody and you use a firearm, you've got a problem usually as far as self-defense because you're part of encouraging the situation to escalate. In law enforcement, they have what they call a force continuum. The first point of the force, there's six points to it. The force continuum says, number one, if the officer is present, that's number one. Then it goes up the ladder to commands, to orders to people to sit down, calm down, whatever.
Starting point is 02:13:35 It's voice communicate. It goes all the way up to number six, which is the use of deadly force. My belief is I'm a great believer in non-lethal force i don't think this rancher had a choice with that matter uh i don't know how many times people have been on his property but it gets to the point to where uh you know he he did what he thought he had to do. And I won't judge that. I don't know the circumstances. However, when a policeman's operating out in the wild, which is most of the big cities, he gets into a situation to where this is why a lot of police officers get killed or injured, despite the fact that they have bulletproof vests, is that
Starting point is 02:14:26 they have to react from number one, sometimes all the way to six. Sometimes a person pulls a knife or pulls a weapon out, and they have to immediately go to pulling their weapon. Most police departments tell the officers, keep your weapon holstered, your firearm holstered, until you have a deadly threat. There's a reaction time in that that causes them problems. But the long and short of it is, is if you feel you're in danger and you can't back up anymore or you can't retreat, then you usually have the right to use a firearm or any means of self-defense. If you have anger, if you're angry, getting into an argument
Starting point is 02:15:15 or just playing half of a bad disposition, you know, don't be carrying a firearm, number one, but certainly don't use it. You need to work under the cold calculating. I'm scared to death and I'm trying to get away from this. And most places in your house, you have the right. If a person is coming after you to use fire. And of course, that's the other part of it as well. That's the danger aspect of it.
Starting point is 02:15:43 If they're coming at you, you can stand your ground. We've got a lot of states where that is encoded into the law. I'm sure that that's probably not the case in New York. There's probably no stand your ground or even stand your subway. You know, there's nothing there where you can protect yourself, I guess. But most states recognize that obvious right. And even if your state doesn't, you may choose to take your chances in court if you think that you're in enough danger uh where you can't retreat but of course if somebody is
Starting point is 02:16:10 in your house and they're stealing stuff and they're and they see you and they're running out with your television set under their arm you can't shoot them in the back because there's no danger component there right so that's the other part about it yeah if they are retreating you don't have the right to use a weapon that's right now you about it yeah if they are retreating you don't have the right to use a weapon that's right now you know going back to this where he fired the warning shot you know because i look at this and it's like with all the the traffic that's on his border you have to even wonder you know since they came out and they looked and they didn't find any body uh and then later he found the body and called them back up. But, you know, you would have thought that they would have, since he called them, he, you know, and they came out and looked at it.
Starting point is 02:16:51 I even have questions as to whether or not that happened from him or if it happened from somebody else. I'm sure they'll do the ballistics and all the rest of the stuff. But if you're in a situation like that and you wanted to fire warning shots, it seems to me like it might be a wiser thing to fire into the ground. If it's just going to be a warning shot, because that way you can always show them, say, see, I'm missing a bullet and here it is right here on the ground. If you shoot it up in the air, you don't really know where it's going to come down.
Starting point is 02:17:19 And I just recently saw a picture of somebody who said, look at this, you know, and they had a bullet that had come down and hit the roof of their car. It had not penetrated the car, so it wasn't shot at the car. It was probably one of these deals where it was shot up in the air and, you know, where it fell. Nobody knows, you know, that type of thing. Somebody found it that way. Well, I, again, I don't have enough information.
Starting point is 02:17:42 I really question what happened there. I know that if I had a bunch of uniformed people running around in my yard, I'd assume they're either law enforcement or military. But what's he to think? I don't know all the circumstances of what happened. I do not believe in warning shots. I believe to retreat. And people need to go get training on this. Go to a gun store, get involved
Starting point is 02:18:10 with organizations around there's a lot of very, very competent. Many of them are ex military, many of them are ex law enforcement people that can teach to respring. However, I feel sorry for these people, the real issue down there what is going on with the border the real issue in new york why isn't this great government this nanny state they're creating in new york why isn't that taking care of these people why is it left up to the citizens to be threatened injured or killed from people that they know are a risk. Why are these people coming across the border? Who knows? I have my beliefs. I believe that
Starting point is 02:18:55 they're doing a number of things. There's always a multifaceted answer to these things. I think number one, any form of communism wants to remove or extreme socialism, whatever you want to call it, wants to remove your right of self-defense. I attended a party one time with a bunch of Eastern Europeans. It got to be a birthday party for an 87-year-old man. It was, as most Eastern Europeans, they were really drinking. And there were 21 of them there. And I was the only American they'd invited in because I was a neighbor and the guy liked me. And they told me the same thing that you do not have the right to defense uh for instance uh these people weren't from there but in romania i had a guy tell me if you even got into a fight defending yourself you got arrested no matter how good your cause was and this is an issue they want to to make the state the only function that can dispense self-defense
Starting point is 02:20:08 they've got some idea of a perfect society that people don't do this stuff but uh it's it's just unfortunate that that people are overlooking the real issue and that is why is this guy this rancher got all these running around in his yard in the middle of the night? I feel sorry for these people. That's right. Yeah, you're absolutely right. They didn't care about Jordan Neely when he was alive. They identified him as a homeless person who was in crisis.
Starting point is 02:20:38 They did nothing at all to help him. And, of course, the police did nothing at all to protect people from him, even though he had attacked at least, he had a long rap sheet of like 20 some odd incidents and just in the article that i read they they listed four of them that were pretty you know pretty major violent attacks that he had done on people so the police didn't care to protect the the community and the homeless organization didn't care to protect jordan neely but now it's become a cause celeb that they can use to push a race war or something else like that. For their political advantage, now they can use it.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Again, multifaceted. There's the try to eliminate your right of self-defense. They're bringing race into this issue. These are all issues that they should feel shame on themselves for not dealing with this with this neely i don't know what kind of person he was but apparently he was either on drugs or was mentally ill uh regardless of these black or white or green like kermit the frog the bottom line is the guy needed some help and nobody was giving it to him. I agree. I agree. Yeah. I want to go back to that comment that you made in terms of, uh, you saying
Starting point is 02:21:49 you, you don't like the idea of firing warning shots. And I think that's very wise. I mean, you know, you shoot a warning shot, you shoot it even into the ground where there's not the possibility. It's not going to hit somebody out there. They're going to think that they're being shot at perhaps, and they may shoot for real at you. And so I agree with you. I don't think that's a, that's one of the reasons why, uh, you wrote this book and I didn't about those types of things.
Starting point is 02:22:13 And so I'm, I'm by far not, uh, the best expert on this thing. Uh, the, uh, CCW safe,
Starting point is 02:22:24 uh, that's a insurance policy I have in case I do get into an altercation that ends up using deadly force. They put some excellent articles out on this. But there's training available for every American. And as things start unraveling more, people are going to find they're going to need this. And I don't really think that Daniel Penny did anything wrong other than to try to restrain this guy because he apparently was, was getting
Starting point is 02:22:57 ready to do something to somebody on that subway train. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It certainly sounded like it. And he had done that type of thing before. So it seemed to me like after they go back and look at that case, they would say, well, that was really a credible threat based on his past experiences. But they've got a different agenda.
Starting point is 02:23:14 One of the reasons I wanted to get you on is in terms of the overview of the helpful information that is here. You begin in the first volume of this. You talk about forming a neighborhood protection plan, and you talk about it so much, you actually created a little acronym, you know, the NPP, because you refer to it so much, you've got chapter after chapter, certain types of situations, but then preceding it, you talk about civil unrest, which is what we're talking about with what is happening at the border.
Starting point is 02:23:44 Civil unrest or catastrophic events. A lot of this, though, is really about preparation, preparation in your neighborhood, but then how to recognize these specific types of threats and how to deal with them. But the whole first volume is really focused on setting up this neighborhood protection plan, isn't it? In fact, we had our monthly meeting of our council. We've got about 40 people in my neighborhood. I belong to two of these, but the one in my neighborhood, we had a council meeting last night, and one thing that was discussed
Starting point is 02:24:19 is what we do if busloads of these people start getting dropped off in town here. I don't know what law enforcement and city fathers and the county supervisors are going to do as far as having a position on this. It seems like nobody wants to touch this thing. They want to call them refugees. They're refugees that were encouraged to come here. If people want to live in a society that they have integration of these people, they must understand one thing. I've lived a lot of places in the world. Most of these cultures are alien to the basic American. And they won't know that until like the lady in Montana, who welcomed in an Afghan gentleman, I won't call him a gentleman,
Starting point is 02:25:17 I guess, he raped her and beat the holy hell out of her. That's a situation that a lot of these people that are kumbaya and we are the world are going to find the hard reality of it. Every one of these societies I've lived in, people are brought up thinking differently. I don't say it's right. I don't say it's wrong. I just know this is alien to a lot of the way, the, a lot of the thought of traditional Americans. So if you want these people in here and get ready to live, uh, with that type of, and most of these countries were third world, I live in, get ready to live in a third world society because that's what
Starting point is 02:25:57 they're bringing in here. Yes, absolutely. And by the way, I had a listener get on here as well. It should have forget about firing warning shots. Okay. Here's why this besides what Jack said, he said, never fire warning shots as listener. John, he said, uh, one must have reasonable belief that death or harm is imminent. And I mean, imminent, you do not fire warning shots. I was a deputy sheriff in LA County warning shots will get your behind in jail.
Starting point is 02:26:25 Yeah, that's right. So, uh, yeah, definitely not in the city. Anything I'm thinking about out in the woods. I, the reason I said that was because the thing is a shame that he can't, you know, uh, say, well, it wasn't my bullet. Of course, that'll be determined. Uh, they'll look at the ballistics on the gun to determine whether he shot that guy or not.
Starting point is 02:26:42 But, you know, I think, as I said before, you fire a warning shot, even if you're not in the city, the people that are out there, even if they weren't a threat before, they may think that they're under attack and they may start shooting at you for real. So that's absolutely do not fire a warning shot. Well, I'd say a prayer for this guy. His outcome is going to be determined by a prosecutor that's either trying to make a name
Starting point is 02:27:07 for himself and i i think that prosecutor if he's fair about things uh he can look at his children when he goes home and say i've done something good for you but if he is a political corrupt uh motivated only by power and control like apparently most of the people in this country that are in leadership positions, corporate and government, and NGOs, non- knew this attorney, and him and I and his paralegal were in the elevator. And I said to him, Mike, you got kids, don't you? I knew he did. And I said to him, I said, you're going to get him to be all lawyers because this was an absolutely bogus, trumped up situation. I want it but the point being this is i i told him that he needs to send his kids all to law school make sure they all get through law school because
Starting point is 02:28:13 i said they're going to need it after the actions you took and he was so red-faced and sheepish over this not that i'm right on everything but i was right on this situation and he knew big bogus situation and that's the key thing you know as we're talking about this and even the warning shot thing it's important to have these discussions and to think through this stuff because if you don't and you're in the situation that this rancher was in you know it's like oh i see a bunch of people out there in their uniform they got guns let me grab my gun and then he you know i gotta scare him off so i'll fire a warning shot if he hasn thought about that, if he hasn't thought through the concept, this is why it's important to have a book like yours.
Starting point is 02:28:50 So that you think through these scenarios, you think what is a reasonable response and given scenarios and the kind of response that's going to get you put in jail or get you killed or get you arrested for, uh, you know, later on. Um, that's why it's important to think through these things. And that's why I wanted to talk about that, you know, later on. That's why it's important to think through these things. And that's why I wanted to talk about that, you know, because you need to start thinking. I know he's out there. His situation is going to be very different from most of us
Starting point is 02:29:13 because he's in such a dangerous area and he's so isolated. I don't know if he's got, you know, any neighbors that are close by that he could rely on. But most people are not in that situation to uh, to be that isolated and in that dangerous of a position, but you know, it would, it would be good for anybody wherever they are to think through these different scenarios and especially this neighborhood protection plan. And to think through how you're going to organize this, how you're going
Starting point is 02:29:42 to communicate with other people. If you've got some kind of a threat that you're in communication with them, that you guys have thought through different scenarios and that you're in touch with each other. One of the things that you mentioned in terms of that you cover in your book are a lot of wise considerations about when you put this together, what kind of personalities to look at. You know, you've got one chapter here is like leadership and psychopaths so you got to have a leader but make sure it's not a psychopath that wants to take control because that's typically what the psychopaths want to do in a group situation right if there were ever the ability to use science for one thing, I would think the best use would be that they'd be able to analyze a person's brain, whether it's infrared or not. They've done this and found psychopaths have a different, they have different neurons firing.
Starting point is 02:30:40 They don't have any compassion. They can be either malignant or passive. Malignant or dangerous to people. I believe the vast majority of people running this country and running corporations are psychopaths. These people are chameleons. They're able to get to the top. They're able to make everybody think that they are like them, but they are far from it. They are devoid of compassion, the worst case of them.
Starting point is 02:31:12 And this is something that people have to look at. But nobody seems to want to touch this border issue. Politicians, nobody seems to want to touch it except people like you. Here's the worst part of the thing they're saying they do talk about the drugs coming in the country they do talk about military age males coming into the country i'll make this statement to your listeners a the the guy that said don't fire the warning shot, your reader or your listener is 100% correct. You retreat until you can't retreat. And if it's in your house, I don't believe in taking anybody's life for property.
Starting point is 02:31:57 There's nothing that you can measure up to a person's life. Well, I might make a couple exceptions to that. But the bottom line is that people don't want to touch this thing. I'm concerned about all these military-age males coming into the country. That's right. Michael Vaughn, who's down in the Panama Darien Gap area, watching this whole thing unfold, has said there are 20,000-some Chinese came in, military-age people. He will not reveal how he knows this, this whole thing unfold has said there are 20 000 some chinese came in military aged people he will not reveal how he knows this but they're connected with their intelligence agencies and their their military uh where is this going i don't know uh you can conjure up wild theories
Starting point is 02:32:42 and worry about this but the long and short of it it is Americans are armed and that's a big thing. Go get training on restraint and on when to use the weapon. That's right. Yeah. They get through, get some advice. Great place to get some advice is a Jack's book. Uh,
Starting point is 02:33:00 yeah, you're talking about the Chinese. I'd not heard that report from Michael Yonai. I, um, interviewed him and of course he was talking about how they would carefully plan and finance. You have NGOs that are financing this and carefully planning which countries they're going to inject which nationals into because of the way that they have different border laws. And some other countries actually do enforce their border laws, unlike us.
Starting point is 02:33:23 But, you know, the massive number of chinese that he reported and then of course uh breitbart reported uh last evening five migrants on the terror watch list were arrested near the arizona border uh after this and so you know people that they have not only encountered before but that they've always already put on the terror watch list are there if you've got a massive number of people coming in who want to do harm to this country the kind of sabotage that they could already put on the terror watch list are there. If you've got a massive number of people coming in who want to do harm to this country, the kind of sabotage that they could do to the infrastructure is just absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 02:33:50 And of course, uh, you know, our border is the one border in the world that the U S military is absolutely unconcerned about, isn't it? I'm, I'm very,
Starting point is 02:33:59 uh, I'm very concerned about these people coming in. Uh, general Franco during the Spanish Civil War, made a statement. He said, I've got five columns attacking a city. And he said, well, what do you mean? One of the reporters asked him. You've only got four here. The fifth one's already there. It's called the Fifth Column Movement. And there's a possibility, I'm suspect, that this may be part of an overall plan. These young people that,
Starting point is 02:34:40 and I have to tell you, honestly, when I was 19, 20 years old, the illusion of communism was in my mind. I started thinking how wonderful it'd be until uh like Winston Churchill said when you're young uh if you don't have passion you don't have a heart when you're older he said if you don't have uh uh if you don't have realism you don't you don't have a mind and that's pretty much what these young people don't have they haven't had they're devoid of experience and in wisdom a lot of them not all of them but a lot of them but the long and short of this thing is this is there's a lot of people moving in here if these young people that believe in communism think it's so good they need to sit down and talk to the people like I talked to at that party. 21 people there.
Starting point is 02:35:26 I was the only American there. And I remember at one point I asked them, well, what was it like to live under communism? And they were all like, they just all got stone-faced. Then there was a little bit of chit-chat in their foreign language between them, a little bit of snickering, and then one guy got serious and opened up. And he started telling me the stories about the realism. He said the bottom line was it destroys a person's spirit. Communism destroys your hope. They had a saying in their country, the government, the government cheats us a little. We cheat them a lot because there's a lot more of them than the government. And I listened to a woman who was, she had a PhD in chemistry. And she told me what they would go to work at seven in the morning at 11 o'clock they would start drinking and and and that was another thing i asked why do you guys drink so much habit habit from growing up
Starting point is 02:36:30 in those countries that was the only escape they had and and i was i said where did you work and she said i worked in a toilet paper make manufacturing facility and she said we would go in at 11 o'clock we'd start drinking and we just wouldn't do anything the rest of the day i said well how did that affect your work well one time she said we had the big mixer for toilet paper fiber and of course they don't bleach anything it was kind of gray looking but she said uh 11 o'clock we loaded the thing up and it was mixing. And then we started drinking and the machine just kept going and going and going. And it was so hard by the end of the day that she said they had to spend the next week cleaning the thing out. So it destroys a lot of the work ethic of people.
Starting point is 02:37:20 And they need to talk to these people that have lived there. If they think communism is so great, of course,'s never been done right is what they say but uh there is never a right thing for it yeah yeah it does uh it does make people uh they find little ways to rebel against the authoritarianism right uh little methods as you point out they can cheat the government a lot it makes people uh dishon, backstabbing. It makes them lazy to oppress them that way. And that's the key thing. When everything is based on a lie, when everything is dishonest, and even when it came to their
Starting point is 02:37:56 news media, they weren't fooled by it. They said there's no truth in Pravda, which is what Pravda meant, and there's no news in Izvestia, which was what Izvestia meant. They knew that it was a sham. And I think we're starting to see that now in the U.S. As we see the information is so controlled, many people are becoming very, and rightfully so, cynical about what the mainstream media says. But they continue to do it, even though they know that it's not true, and they know that
Starting point is 02:38:24 we know that it's not true. They continue to do it, and I think they it's not true and they know that we know that it's not true they continue to do it and i think they do it because it's part of the power and intimidation to continue to do it it's a really strange thing to see happening but it is coming to us and and over and over again we hear from people who have lived under that system they can smell it a mile away they can see it coming from a mile away and they're warning us over and over again about that aren't they? They say these same people told me exactly what you said this 20 years ago. They said, what we had is coming here. We can see it every day.
Starting point is 02:38:58 We see the same things that happen. The disinformation, the, uh, color green is red. Uh, the color white is yellow. It just absolute people have to understand it's psychological operations i also went to a school on this when i was through it was british version of american special forces and i had a week of psychological operations and i almost slept through the class but i do remember most of what they taught me and I think 85% of these people do not want this woke and this agenda that they're pushing. One thing people need to do, in addition to learning self-defense, get to know your neighbors. Get together with your neighbors. We have a radio network we've set up
Starting point is 02:39:46 and we're trying to get to the point to where if we have an issue here that everybody is alerted in the neighborhood. What we do from that point on depends on the issue. But if it's something that we look at and we're in a very closed neighborhood, there's two entrances in and two entrances out, 642 homes. But we still try to cooperate in knowing each other is the first thing. And we do this through block parties and that type of thing. And that's the key thing. You can't protect yourself by yourself. That's right.
Starting point is 02:40:24 That's the key thing. You've got to have, yourself. That's right. That's the key thing. You've got to have, in order to have good defense, and I think, again, this guy was not living in a neighborhood, taking his situation as worst-case scenario. He was not living in a neighborhood where he could do something like that, but most people are. And the good news about this is I just replayed this last Friday when we weren't here. I replayed an interview that I had with a guy who had learned how to grow food, and he was using it as an outreach to get to know his neighbors and to share the gospel with them. And so if you have a situation like this and you're living in a neighborhood, the good part about this is that you're actually building a neighborhood, which we seem to have lost for the most part. We have to not just push back and
Starting point is 02:41:09 defense against the bad things that are out there, but we need to have a positive vision of how we're going to build the kind of culture, the kind of community that we want to have. And that's what I like about your book, because it's got a lot of aspects in it in terms of bringing how to you know some of the the things that you've been through the experience that you've been through uh wise things to think about in terms of trying to get this together trying to build a community and then if never if if you never have a situation where anything really bad happens you got a community that's the nice thing that comes out of this is that you learn to know your neighbors and you've got a community there even if the worst case scenario doesn't happen.
Starting point is 02:41:48 It's not only knowing your neighbors. It's the principle that has been around since we've been around. You see a lot of cities in the Middle East. They've got walls around them through recorded history, walls, groups of people, why they banded together. It wasn't just for commerce. It was for defense against unlawful elements. And this is what people need to get to do in their neighborhood or their area. I mean, I would advocate to these people along the border
Starting point is 02:42:23 that they start some type of radio network and come to each other's age. Not with guns blazing. Come over and see what the situation is. Yeah. You need to support each other. This is so evident over history. These people formed by race, by clan, by religion, by family, bloodlines, but they usually ended up building a wall. So you have to, around your neighborhood, get together, know people, and literally build
Starting point is 02:42:53 a figurative wall, a defensive perimeter around your neighborhood. Mine is a long street. It's very difficult to do that, but we've managed to figure out how to do it. People need to get together. They need to go to civildefensemanual.com and look at a lot of the information that I give out on there free. There's a lot of information on this. I have some commentary in a newsletter. But the long and short of the thing is, if they don't think they're affected by this now, within the next decade, they will be affected by this. This situation of self-defense and protecting what you have. I had to laugh. I read an article about a large city down by the
Starting point is 02:43:40 border where people were protesting to their police department that the migrants were camping out on their lawns and the police refused to move them and they had to sue the city to get the city to come in and remove these people from their properties uh this this is not right this is failure of government now there are good people that step up to bat, but the majority of them are so involved in their career and politics and saying the politically correct thing that they ignore the basics of what the citizenry need. And they need help in this type of thing.
Starting point is 02:44:22 Yeah, you know, I just... Sorry, go ahead. No, I can't stop this inflow of people. I just do know this, that it's going to drag things down. You talk about CBDC. Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind it's coming. Why is it coming? Because we have a paper tiger, house of cards, financial system that's run its course.
Starting point is 02:44:48 There's not much more. I expect bank closures. A lot of this is a grab by the big banks to absorb small banks. Why? Because it's easier to do that with instituted central digital currency if you've only got four or five computer systems instead of 50 or 60 of them and different people to talk to. So that type of thing is coming.
Starting point is 02:45:19 Problems with crime are going to start going through the roof. When I was on the police board, I actually brought an article to our director about, I believe it was Philadelphia, where the review boards, like I was on, were so woke. I was on a board and I was known as somebody that supported law enforcement fairly uh if somebody was a bad apple they need to go i mean like a underserved told me they do huge amounts of filtering these people out but he said like a cross-section of people will get a bad apple once
Starting point is 02:46:00 in a while uh in yeah blueness ph Philadelphia, what was happening, the review boards were hammering these officers so hard for anything that they did that they showed a picture of them as in the middle of winter. The cigarette smoke was rolling out the windows. They were sitting there, it was about 10 cars in front of, I believe it's a domestic dispute. And they sat there afraid to go in, confront somebody, because you haven't used an alpha male in that situation. So what they did is wait until they heard something that was deadly, like gunfire. Then they'd call the SWAT team in and they'd kill the guy.
Starting point is 02:46:40 That's the attitude. Police, I feel at one time I wanted to be one. I feel terribly, terribly empathetic to these people. They have a horrible situation to deal with every day. I recently had a sergeant in a major city friend of mine. All of a sudden he disappeared. I said, why didn't you come here? We could have got you in the sheriff's department.
Starting point is 02:47:01 Too big, he said. He was in a major city and he said his last shift, 12 to 8, he got off work, walks into a convenience store. There's a guy in his underwear with a three foot long machete. And he said, I was tired and punchy. And he said, I just told the guy, you either drop that machete or I'm going to shoot you. And the guy dropped the machete, he arrested him. But he said, I'm not going to get dragged up on manslaughter charges for shooting somebody. So overnight, he left.
Starting point is 02:47:30 He went home, told his wife, we're out of here. And they moved to a small town in Midwest City that's got one stoplight. And that's the way he's going to spend the rest of his police career. Well, I'm not even a police officer, but that's what I was looking for as well. The policing is very political. It's about policies, and it's political. It's all embedded in the name. That's a key part of it.
Starting point is 02:47:57 As you were talking about walls and communities and things like that, I was thinking, really throughout history, that was really pretty much the way that it was. You know, people would band together. In many cases, they would build physical barriers to protect themselves and a community and a city. It wasn't really until the middle of the 1800s where you started having the Industrial Revolution and the consolidation that came with the creation of the nation state that you really started getting away from these smaller concentrations, these smaller communities and a predominantly agrarian society, that started disappearing.
Starting point is 02:48:31 Prior to that, you had all these towns throughout Europe, for example, where people would band together in these little cities. They were even city-states earlier on. But then they subsumed everything into a nation. And that's what we're seeing now. There's so many people that even in our states, there's so many people that government just doesn't seem to work anymore. And that's why we need to reclaim at the neighborhood level, at the community level, some of the basic things that we want from government because government is unable or unwilling to provide those fundamental
Starting point is 02:49:06 protections for us. We see that everywhere. So it really is important, and I can't recommend to people enough. CivilDefenseManual.com, you can go there, you can see the table of contents, you can see some free content. And of course, one of the chapters that is there for free, where you take a look at, is this excellent chapter on water, to make sure that you've got a water supply, because that's the first thing you're going to lose. Jack, as always, sorry, go ahead. You're getting me started like a broken record. To put a supply of water in their house, whether it's bottles, the dispenser bottles, or a blue barrel, and they need to get food, and they need to get their life-sustaining medicines.
Starting point is 02:49:51 They need to start doing that. Go to the store, pick up one can, stick it under the bed, get a box of bottles of water, stick it under the bed. Yeah, absolutely. It's always great talking to you, Jack. There's just so much wisdom in this, and a lot of it is Jack's, but he's brought in a lot of other people much wisdom in this and a lot of it is Jack's, but he's brought in a lot of other people who have specialties and a lot of different things. There's a lot of things in these, this two volume manuals and you can find that at
Starting point is 02:50:15 civil defense manual.com. Thank you so much. I appreciate it, Jack. Always good talking to you. Okay, folks, we're going to take a real quick break, and then we're going to be right back. I want to talk a little bit about entertainment. Some interesting things that have come out in the last couple of weeks. Using free speech to free minds it's the david knight show
Starting point is 02:50:51 hey david did you see that tom hanks and the hollywood crowd are having discussions about them making royalties for eternity on movies. Well, somebody be making it for eternity. It's kind of, well, we've already got that to some degree, you know, Disney keeps renewing the copyrights on everything for eternity, but they're hoping that they're going to get more of a piece of it. And, uh, I think that's, uh, something of an element in the writer's strikes right now as well. Uh, but they said, um, they're going to use their AI identity and they will continue to produce content
Starting point is 02:51:27 with their AI identity. Well, I've got a couple of things to say about that. First of all, if you look at the offspring of many of these people in Hollywood where they have so much money, I would not recommend that. Look at what it has done to their children in many cases. They are deeply disturbed because that money has been very corrupting to them.
Starting point is 02:51:55 It's given them free access to all of the harmful, destructive things that we can find in this life, and they have unfettered access to that, number one. Number two, there was actually a movie about that very thing about a decade ago. It was about 2014, 2015. I did a report on it and I forget the name of the movie, but it starred Robin Wright. So maybe you can find it on IMD, uh, IMDb.com the internet movie database. Robin Wright was in this.
Starting point is 02:52:25 And that was the kind of the, uh, what I remember about it was that she, as an actress sold her persona to some corporation. And the, um, uh, the, the catch of it was that she could no longer act. So they now own her persona and they could make all kinds of movies with her in any kind of role, doing anything that she wanted, but she couldn't actually work anymore, interesting idea. And, uh, you know, I'm, would not be surprised to see that happening in real life, not too far from now.
Starting point is 02:53:02 Speaking of somebody who could never act again, there was an interesting story, because I've talked about Song of the South many times. I really do like the movie. I really think it is a shame, as I said, as I point out to people, you know, if you listen to the program, that Karen and I owned a video store for about 13 years, a chain of video stores.
Starting point is 02:53:21 And that was in spite of the fact that Zippity-Doo-Dah was in it. Disney would never release that domestically. We eventually got it on LaserDisc. It was a Japanese LaserDisc. And of course, it wasn't that big of an issue. Only people who had LaserDisc could watch it, of course, and we didn't have that many people had LaserDisc, but we carried them. It wasn't that big of an issue watching it. The only thing that you would know, because they had the capability of listening to different audio tracks. We'd have different languages, but when they would have a song, they would be singing in English and you'd have these little, you know,
Starting point is 02:53:56 Japanese characters dancing along at the bottom, which was not distracting because we didn't know what the things meant anyway, you know, if they were, uh, so, and you couldn't turn that off. That was hard baked into it, but that was the only place that we could see the song of the South. Uh, we had, as I've mentioned before, some nice experiences with the boys when they were very young in the early nineties, um, with a splash mountain, but they have been very zealous to purge all of this stuff and now have taken down the rides. I think the one in Disneyland has just closed or is just about to close.
Starting point is 02:54:30 John Nolte wrote an article. He said, Song of the South and Disney's unconscionable erasure of James Basket, the guy who played Uncle Remus. He said, recently I found a copy of the blacklisted Disney classic Song of the South from 1946 through eBay. And he said, what I remembered when I saw this as a kid, as a six year old, he said, I was thoroughly charmed and entertained. He said, that happened again, even though I'm now 57. He said, so he looked at it and he said, what is it that everybody has a problem with this? And are these things really a problem? He says, does the Song of the South have some racial issues?
Starting point is 02:55:10 Sure, but nothing that justifies the Orwellian erasure of this. He said, overall, the Song of the South is about healing the rift between black and white America. And it does so in a very racially progressive way that was unheard of in 1946. But Disney has blacklisted this whole thing since 1986, the last time it got a theatrical release. And of course, it's never been on Betamax or Laserdisc or VHS here domestically in the U.S. You can get it only in some foreign language things.
Starting point is 02:55:47 And he says it's really a story about a seven-year-old boy who's got home problems. You know, the father is leaving, and you realize that he's not just going on a trip. The family is kind of splitting up, so he's troubled about that. And Uncle Remus kind of comes in as a wiser father figure, older adult, to help him through, to teach him some lessons. He gives him some parables. There's three major ones in it. As I've said many times, and John Nolte doesn't talk about it, I said, so, you know, why should we be concerned about this? We had Aesop's fables written by an anonymous person who was a slave.
Starting point is 02:56:24 Who knows who wrote Uncle Remus? But, of course, as Nolte points out in the movie, it's very clear that the Uncle Remus character is not a slave, that slavery is over, that he's a sharecropper, that he's free to come and go. He has interactions and relations with the white people that are there. The mother has an issue with him, and they have a back and forth. But he's treated as an equal.
Starting point is 02:56:52 He's not treated any differently because he's black. And the kids look up to him as a father figure. He says there's three cartoon parables. The first one reminds Johnny that you can't run away from your troubles. The second one, the tar baby, teaches Johnny not to manufacture problems for himself. And the third one teaches Johnny to use his brain instead of his fists, especially when he is outnumbered. So there's good natured stereotypes, including many from my own background that do not offend me because I'm a rational adult and we should be able to handle these things. I mean, people still deal in stereotypes everywhere. And so he says,
Starting point is 02:57:33 the idea that this portrays a Southern plantation is full of happy slaves is absolutely lies. I said, slavery is finished. They make that very clear. The idea that a tar baby is racially degrading, he said, well, I waited to see if Br'er Fox is going to dress up that a tar baby is racially degrading. He said, well, I waited to see if Br'er Fox is going to dress up like a tar baby and do something like a minstrel show. He said, there's none of that. He said, the tar baby is given no racial characteristics. Using tar baby as a metaphor might be racially insensitive today, but it has nothing to do with the song in South. I'd never even heard that tar baby used that way. I never knew that, but you know what? Now that I know, I don't really care because this is their fantasy that they want to live. And I'm no more interested
Starting point is 02:58:14 in entertaining their CRT fantasies than I am in using somebody's made up pronouns. I really don't care to participate in that. But as he points out, there's no subordination. He's not called boy. He doesn't call anybody massa or none of this stuff. Everybody treats him with an equal, with dignity, and with respect. And then finally he says this, and I think this is wise. He said, anybody who judges a story's morality on the content of that story is a moron. If content were the guide, then the Bible, which is full of human depravities, would be one of the most immoral books ever written.
Starting point is 02:58:54 But content is only the road upon which the moral or the theme is driven. What matters is the destination. This is where the Song of the South takes us. Uncle Remus is a black man in a 1946 movie who is the star of the movie. Additionally, his character is the moral center of the story. He is the moral authority, and he is a father figure to a white boy. How many movies aimed at the general public before Sidney Poitier can say that. And then he says this. Not only did they cancel the movie, but they also canceled this actor. This guy was James Baskett, earned a well-deserved honorary Oscar for history ever awarded for a single performance.
Starting point is 02:59:55 We've had other people get honorary life attributions. And sadly, that was his final performance. He died just a few months after getting that Oscar. Think about it. They purged that away as well. Thank you for joining us. Have a good day. The Common Man They created Common Core to dumb down our children. They created Common Past The common man.
Starting point is 03:00:25 They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing. And the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God. That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us. It's time to turn that
Starting point is 03:01:06 around and expose what they want to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find at thedavidknightshow.com. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing. If you can't support us financially, please keep us in your prayers. Thank you.

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