The David Knight Show - 17Oct22 Chemtrails, "Climate Change" & Population Control
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You're listening to The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Monday, the 17th of October, year of our Lord 2022. Day 947 of the New World Orders. Well, I'm Tony Arterburn. I'm filling in for the great David Knight once again.
I'm joined in studio by my hound dog.
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We're at the Wise Wolf Gold and Silver.com studios in beautiful Branson, Missouri.
Always great to be here.
I'm looking forward to the show.
I've got Gar Goldsmith coming in on the second hour and your phone calls.
I look forward to it.
This has been great with the phone calls,
and we'll go over the rules.
Given my limited technological capabilities,
we'll go over that here in the next hour.
But we'll go through some headlines.
I got a few stories and things I want to bring to your attention.
I had a couple of calls after the shows last week,
and they really touched on and they said you know you
mentioned the neocons and that's one that's like one of my old wheelhouse hobby horse things I even
talked about it in like the title of my shows and that we're broadcasting in defiance of the neocons
they wanted to know who those people were like you know explain that so I'll go over a little
bit because there's a great article up on Newsweek about the neocons and their linkage to the liberal world order and the left and why the left now there's more evidence for bigfoot than the anti-war left but there's a merger now and we'll talk a little bit about
that history because it's interesting politics are not what they seem not what they were taught
uh in uh well what we perceived as reality especially growing up in the 90s. It's not that at all. And we'll go over some of that as well. Looking to the
headlines on Drudge, not much to really go over here. It's the same. And thank goodness there's
not more linkage to anything developing in the Ukraine-Russian conflict other than what I can
find on antiwar.com. And we'll go over as well. But a drudge is setting the stage for
the November elections, the midterms coming up and they got the divided states of America,
another 50-50 Senate. This is what they're putting in the red highlights with the question mark.
I don't know, looking at Nate Silver and some of the polling that's going on with the 538 people that look at all the data.
Again, I don't know if you can go off polling anymore.
It's really about demographics.
And then again, with the electronic voting and everything else and all of the everything that happens in our elections.
But I do think that there's going to be some shift in leadership.
I don't think there's going to be, and I hate the term red wave.
I don't think there's going to be a red wave, but I do think the, uh,
the Republicans most likely will take the house.
And this may be a correct headline or a foretelling where they stall out in the
Senate. And as David has brought up many times, you know,
while people were doing stop the steal and, you know, and going to Washington and for what, the third or fourth time for Trump, there was something happening in Georgia and they didn't pay attention to it.
They dropped the ball. And that's why we have the situation in the White House, that means the vice president will make
the deciding casting vote to offset the split there. So we'll see. Again, I'm not sure most
of that matters. For those of us covering the actual events and what's actually going on,
it doesn't make any sense that the Republicans aren't even running on the things that we're
talking about. I mean, you think that they would. There's so much dynamite there to run on, but they don't.
They're not picking up the baton. So it leads me to be a lot more skeptical.
And that's pretty much the headlines for politics right now. We're going to stick to some more.
We're going to go into some deeper waters. And again, this is not, this is the David Knight show, not your standard
conservative talk, left, right paradigm dead end. So we'll jump off of that and go right into
also some, some things I find highly interesting and at least to get you started this morning,
while I have some coffee out of my David Knight mug, by the way, you can go to the David Knight
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Let's check out what Kanye West is doing.
Interesting figure. He's being cancelled right now he's
the jp morgan chase threw him out of the bank and uh which is interesting you know the the the same
banks that are canceling people had uh you know a lot of these entities and had entities had close ties to the Third Reich and, of course, the Bolsheviks and communists.
That's okay.
They can kick people out of their bank if they want to, I guess.
Kanye West to purchase uncancellable social media app Parler.
I think I'm still on Parler.
I don't know.
I'm guessing it still exists.
I didn't know they brought
it back after it was uh nuked from the amazon servers but apparently he's buying it uh let's see
uh it's at parliament technologies the parent company of the popular media platform parlor
published a press release monday saying it's being acquired by Yee, formerly known as Kanye West.
In a statement, Yee said he's acquiring the social media platform,
a favorite among American conservatives,
to ensure people have the right to freely express ourselves.
Well, he's going to need that because he's being canceled everywhere.
It's good that I love the diversity and all these people buying up platforms,
and that's great.
They say start your own,
but then when you do that,
they get really angry.
Parliament Technology said
it entered into an agreement in principle
to sell Parler to Yi for an unknown amount.
The proposed acquisition will assure Parler
a future role in creating an uncancelable ecosystem where all voices are welcome, the company said.
Well, let's see what Kanye has to say.
Oh, no, this is Parliament Technology CEO.
It says, this deal will change the world and change the way the world thinks about free speech.
He is making a groundbreaking move into the free speech media space and will never have to fear being removed from the social media platform once again.
Well,
that's good.
And they learned a lesson there.
I think,
you know,
where your servers are parked.
And this is,
I think that will be the future.
They'll go after,
again,
they've already done it,
but they'll go after the servers.
They'll go after the domains.
They'll target that as well.
That's why we all
have to we all have to hang together folks and alternative media will hang separately
let's see and of course you know this coming off the the uh events of kanya going after jared
kushner it's funny i was like somebody ought to bring up the fact that Jerry Kushner, uh, owns six,
six,
six fifth Avenue,
but no one ever does.
I always thought that was fun,
but good for Kanye.
You know,
he's going to,
uh,
get it,
his own media platform.
Let's shake it up.
It'll be fun.
I like gab too.
I don't spend enough time over on gab.
Uh,
I just don't spend a lot of time on social media anymore.
I mean,
after I've,
I had,
uh,
streams canceled in real time. And I, I don mean, after I've, I had, um, streams canceled in
real time. And I, I don't know if I've ever seen that from anyone else, literally just having a,
an account linked to some of the proud boys that were, uh, like the Titans of Liberty and, uh,
my friend Jason Lowe. And we had a channel together. And and of course at the same time i was doing you know
fill-in uh broadcast and guest appearances on info wars and i went live and facebook removed my feed
while i was live i've never seen that before i was doing it was simulcasting my radio show
and the entire channel everything uh everything that was feeding through the video was taken down in real time.
So I thought about that later when they said they couldn't take the videos of
live active shooters down.
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So, anyway, that's that's good for Kanye.
We'll maybe get back and see what we'll give an update.
If we're still talking about this later in the week, we'll see how that's going for him.
All right, folks.
Well, you know, it's hard to pick.
In the dystopia buffet, do I want to talk about chemtrails?
Do I want to talk about the neocons?
Well, let's do this.
All the folks that are changing their profile picture on Facebook for the Ukrainian flag,
and after it's long been put out in the open that Ukraine has some Nazis there, the real Nazis and, of course, the people that say we're going to punch Nazis and stand up against fascism are all working for fascists and supporting the things they say they don't want. effect of you know feeding what 76 billion dollars to this uh money laundering uh region of the world
known as ukraine where they you know we have uh nato and uh western powers and intelligence
operations and bio labs and whatever you know just again it's what you would call a kitty right
that's what you call in if you're going to steal something from the kitty you do
that uh in business you know that's where you can get in trouble with uh old money laundering and
embezzlement and things like that that's kind of what ukraine is to our ruling elites well here's
a story this is on summit.news elon musk alarmed after apparent inclusion on well-known Ukrainian kill list.
Elon Musk has publicly expressed alarm over his name and profile appearing to have been added to the well-known Ukrainian kill list following controversy and outrage from Kiev over his prior Russia-Ukraine peace poll.
So you can't have peace.
That's bad.
You can't talk about peace because then you're an enemy of those who need war.
They survive off.
They thrive off of it.
On Friday, the billionaire SpaceX founder responded directly to a viral tweet by independent journalist Eva Bartlett,
which claimed Musk was added to Ukraine's. My trovets kill list,
which includes 327 children in which he asked her,
is this real?
Yeah,
it's,
it's really long.
Now these are the,
uh,
what did,
what did Frederick Nietzsche talk about?
It's like,
be careful,
uh,
not to become the monsters that you fight.
Well, this is exactly, I mean, that's really coming true in real time as we watch what's happening in Ukraine.
Elon Musk says, is this real?
Of course it's real. This is the side effect of propping up something as holy and without blemish.
I heard once, I think it was the commentator Dennis Prager,
he talked a lot about the Holocaust and talked a lot about that history.
He said, in order to do great evil, you have to first identify as a victim.
In order for you to carry out something evil, you have to first see yourself as a victim because then you have every right, every excuse to do something horrible.
And that's always stuck with me because you see the victim mentality in all of this.
And now you've got these kill lists.
And supposedly they've killed a great many people,
putting these people on, or the people that have shown up on this list.
So something for Elon Musk.
You know, it's funny.
Even if you're neutral, that's not good enough.
You have to be, it's like, it's what we've seen of the extremes over the past three years.
You can't just even be, well, I'm not taking the vax because I've already had the virus or I feel like I have now.
Even if you're just like moderate, the cult of the vaccine was going to say, no, no, you have to get it.
You have to be like, you don't, you don't want a grandma to live.
You know, how dare you be a part of this society?
I mean, they say, trust the science.
I had a good friend of mine who is a scientist.
He's actually my best friend.
He's a scientist, works in the defense industry, has a PhD and had gotten COVID.
And he said, I've got antibodies.
And they said, no, you're going to get the vaccine.
He said, but I've already got the antibodies.
That's science.
And he's working with other scientists.
So imagine what kind of fresh hell that is,
where you're just like,
I thought I was supposed to be in the realm of people of that mind.
And you see that that even gets and bleeds into the covidian cult bleeds into uh
the scientific field as we've witnessed all right well there's elon musk that's what a fun thing to
do is just blow through headlines and uh i just kind of go to the buffet i go up here and click
and see which one i want to talk some of of them are longer. There was one on European gold. I may wait for guard to come on to talk about that because it's an
economic issue that's going back decades. But somebody was writing about how the European
nations were planning for a gold standard going back to the 1970s. And I don't know if I agree with that or if it's really just about the alarm of what's
happening worldwide and economics and the dominance of the dollar.
And of course, the ultimate decline of that.
And I think people and people, I think central banks are planning for that.
They're planning for the eventual demise of the dollar right now by buying a record amount of gold.
All right.
Let's jump into chemtrails because I saw some yesterday and not hard to, uh, to miss them here in the Ozarks because they've got some beautiful blue skies above me and they can't, they can't wait just to fill them with their barium and aluminum,
aluminum and chromium and whatever else they're putting in the skies.
And it's interesting.
People are still oblivious to this.
It's literally right,
right above you.
I know you're looking at your phone and I've had Matt Landman on who did the
brilliant documentary Frankenskies. And we talked about this. And one of the things that I talked
about with Kim Trails was, you know, we talk about politics, we talk about Washington, you can talk
about Trump and January 6th and all of this, but nobody authorized this, whatever this massive global geoengineering
thing is.
There's no committees on it.
There's no investigations into it.
And everybody who has an eye to see can look up and know that that didn't happen in the
nineties.
That didn't happen when we were kids.
You know, I'm saying we were kids.
I'm those of us who were, I was born in 79.
I don't remember looking up at the sky and seeing, you know, giant trails that turned
into clouds, right?
So you're looking at this article, technocracy.news, and it's interesting how they always do this
same kind of a totalitarian tiptoe.
They do the thing.
They actually do the experiment,
do the process.
They put that out there
and then slowly deconstruct the narrative
by press releasing downward.
And if you notice that back in 2019,
they had the Bill Gates.
I think they floated that
just for a misdirection.
But he was working with the Swedish government.
They were going to float these balloons in the upper stratosphere and put out a certain amount of chemicals and haze so that it would block the sun.
Well, that was like in 2019.
And then they barely talked about upper aerosol injections, atmospheric aerosol injections.
John Brennan mentioned that on the Council on Foreign Relations.
This is technocracy.news.
Chemtrails, the White House, is openly exploring ways to cool Earth by reflecting back sunlight.
And this is from Patrick Wood.
Chemtrails have been present in American skies for at least 15 years, but anyone who complained
about them was immediately branded a conspiracy theorist, then shamed, canceled, and then
censored.
Now, with enough data collected, the Biden administration has openly declared its open
intention to reflect sunlight back into space.
The White House Office of Science and Technology Policy is coordinating a five-year research plan
to study ways of modifying the amount of sunlight that reaches the Earth
in order to temporarily temper the effects of global warming.
Well, nothing says you really care about life on earth by blocking the sun.
I mean, I'm pretty sure.
It's funny that they would be so arrogant, the hubris in that,
because you need everything from the sun to survive.
It makes the plants, it makes everything happen. You don't have the sun,
so it's going to block that out, but that's okay. Yeah, don't worry about that.
There are several kinds of sunlight. Reflection technology is being considered, including
stratospheric aerosol injections, marine cloud brightening, and cirrus cloud thinning.
Stratospheric aerosol injections involve spraying an aerosol-like sulfur dioxide
into the atmosphere, excuse me, stratosphere,
and because it has the potential to infect the entire globe, often gets caught.
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And gets the most attention. attention while arguments of moral hazard handicap research
and efforts the idea is getting more urgent attention in the worsening climate crisis
is there a crisis do you notice that that the people in the climate cult never talk about
planting trees that was a thing when I was a kid.
It was a, you know, remember the plant a tree?
And if you go even back further and before, like a little bit before my time, you had
the, uh, the, the commercial where the guy throws the trash out and the Indian cries,
you know, it's got the native American.
So what, what is now that they don't talk about cleaning up the trash, they don't talk about planting trees, they don't talk about any of that.
So the Sierra Club is silent on the amount of massive amount of waste and trash go through the Southwest due to illegal immigration.
They only talk about abstract things like climate change. Do you think that's an accident? Or is this really what, and David talks about the watermelon policy,
which is green on the outside and communist red on the inside?
To me, that's pretty apparent because it's just this thing.
Again, they're going to use, when I see climate change
and when I see chemtrails and geoengineering, I think population control.
That's what I think.
I think you can use that in a way to affect regions, how much they can grow themselves, their independent farms.
Maybe, again, look at the effect that this has had on bees.
And because there's almost no study, what coincides with, if you guys look at that history, with the alarming rate of the decline of the honeybee population.
And then you also add in chemtrails, right?
Those things need to be studied, but we're not because no one can talk about what's obviously in our skies.
The White House is coordinating a five-year research plan to study ways of modifying the
amount of sunlight that reaches the earth to temper the effects of global warming,
a process sometimes called solar geoengineering or sunlight reflection.
The research plan will assess climate interventions, including spraying aerosols into the stratosphere
to reflect sunlight back into space and should include goals for research.
Yeah, so you look at, and then he goes into some of the history, but one thing I've noticed about chemtrails and I've taken many, many pictures over my, my property and then coming into work, driving the 35 minutes from my homestead into Branson Missouri and and that is I got I've got my own pictures I've got my own study
but then I follow a bunch of accounts on Instagram and once I did that there were more accounts that
were international so I started following those and people that are taking pictures of of chem
trails one thing that I found and I don't think anybody else has brought this up, but all the accounts that I followed
that were showing what was happening in Europe and elsewhere,
I started to link, I go, what's the common thread of all these nations?
And the one common thread of all of them, they were in NATO.
All of them.
Without fail.
And I know it goes on around the world outside of that but what does that mean you know these do they have is there some secret treaty that they're going by i'm sure
that there is but they're doing something beyond could even be beyond geoengineering this could be
some sort of military style manhattan style. We just aren't privy to it.
Some of the techniques, such as spraying sulfur dioxide to the atmosphere,
has been known to have harmful effects on the environment, such as human health.
But scientists and climate leaders who are concerned that humanity will overshoot its emissions targets, say the research is important to figure out
how to best balance the risk
against a possibly catastrophic rise in Earth's temperature.
I thought it was global cooling.
Getting ready to research a topic is a very preliminary step,
but it's notable that the White House is formally engaging
with what has largely been seen as the stuff a
dystopian fantasy in uh kim stanley robinson science fiction novel the ministry for the future
a heat wave in india kills 20 million people out of uh out of desperation india decides to
implement its own strategy of limiting the sunlight that goes to Earth. Chris Saka, the founder of Climate Tech Investment Fund,
lower carbon capital,
says it's prudent for the White House
to be spearheading the research effort.
Sunlight reflection has the potential
to safeguard the livelihoods of billions of people.
Sunlight reflection?
Again, if you notice what's always void in all of this discussion on climate change is clean water right we don't have a water problem in this world in our modern era we have a salt
problem and i'm again i'm quoting someone i think it might have been joe rogan
said that but in his limited hangout fashion but i think it was i think he's right we have a salt
problem with the earth is like what 80 75 80 water why don't we have that technology going
clean drinking water you know sanitation uh planting trees, organic gardens.
Isn't that the answer?
What about not letting these?
I mean, you're seeing climate research and climate activism funded by the people that pollute the most.
And then you're asking the entities that are the largest polluters to fix the problem.
But they don't see the issue in that.
And that's why all of this is bunk.
This is just tied to the movement for one world government.
This is a way to do, I mean, they use climate as the same as COVID, right?
It's the linkage of the same thing.
Let's look and see.
Three ways to reduce sunlight.
The idea of sunlight reflection first appeared prominently in 1965 in a report to President
Lyndon Johnson entitled Restoring the Quality of Our Environment.
The report floated the idea of spreading particles over the ocean at a cost of $100 per square
mile.
A 1% change in the reflectivity of the Earth
would cost $500 million per year,
which does not seem excessive.
Again, they've been looking at this since the 1960s.
And people think that weather modification
is science fiction.
You can go back to the...
They were doing cloud seeding
right after the invention of the airplane.
I mean, back in the 20s, you fast forward and Lyndon Johnson signed
the International Treaty on Weather Modification.
You had Operation Popeye in Vietnam.
I'm pretty sure that's even referenced in the movie Forrest Gump.
We talk about it just started raining, had every kind of rain.
They just kept the monsoon seasons were made worse.
That's Operation Popeye.
Now, let's see.
The estimated price tag has gone up since then.
The current estimate that it would cost around $10 billion per year
to run a program that cools the earth by one degree Celsius.
But that figure is seen to be remarkably cheap compared to other climate change
mitigation initiatives. A landmark report released in March 2021 from the National Academies of
Sciences and Engineering and Medicine addressed three kinds of social geoengineering,
stratosphere aerosol injection, marine cloud brightening, and cirrus cloud thinning, all of which sound like wonderful ideas, given that the fact that the process in which
water is distilled and filtered by the clouds themselves, again, just mess with that,
spraying that stuff in there inside the mechanism of the filtering process, what could possibly go wrong?
Or perhaps the rainwater itself is to be poisoned.
The top line slogan about stratospheric aerosol injection is just what I wrote about 10 years ago.
It's still apt.
It's fast, cheap, and imperfect. It's just what I wrote about 10 years ago. It's still apt. It's fast, cheap, and imperfect.
It's crucial, though.
Nothing else that we can do for climate change is fast, cheap, and as fast as this.
This is what the guy said to CNBC.
Well, there you go, folks.
The White House is exploring it.
And didn't I say this is exactly what they do?
And you go back and this is all the same story over and over and over again.
Conspiracy theory, you're a fringe extremist.
You're one of those people that thinks there's a hidden group and a cabal
that decide things outside of your control. You're one of those people that thinks there's a hidden group and a cabal that decide things outside of your control.
You're crazy.
And then two or three years later, oh, by the way, we're putting a panel together to discuss the validity of dimming the sun for everybody's benefit.
We're all going to eat bugs for bread.
All right. We're going to take a quick break. I'm going to eat bugs for bread. All right.
We're going to take a quick break.
I'm going to come back.
I've got more.
Maybe we'll hit the story on the neocons
and talk a little bit about the war.
And then I've got more stuff on the screen
than we can even hit today.
But we're going to be joined, hopefully,
in the second hour by Gard Goldsmith.
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Which he's got some links,
and I think he did a new video for MRCTV.
And even if he didn't,
Gard has got,
he's a wealth of knowledge.
I don't know how,
he's so kind.
He always says he learned something from my shows, but I don't know how
because he's got a big brain and an even bigger heart. Good guy.
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I see that Jason Barker in the chat on the Rockfin chat.
So he's going to build me a new computer when he gets there.
I don't know if you need to build me a new computer.
I've never actually had the problem I just had.
It's pretty bizarre.
It actually was putting the commercial.
I have two screens.
It was putting the commercial on the screen that I'm on.
And I'm like, well, that's never done that before.
And it wouldn't move over.
So we finally got it done.
But this is what happens.
I'm my own producer.
Beans the Brave is security.
She books guests. But again, she's got paws. She can't really help me with all this electronics. So I appreciate your patience. I don't have a Whistler and I don't have a Travis.
And again, Travis, congratulations to Travis and his, his beautiful bride, you know, they officially, um, had their ceremony,
their wedding ceremony on Saturday. And I was, uh, honored to have been invited. You know,
it obviously wouldn't have worked because, uh, this allows, um, David and, and Karen and, and,
uh, the family to take off and be away so they can enjoy that time. And, uh, I'm happy to,
happy to fill in. It funny because i i realized that
you know david could run some best of and the best stubs are better than my shows but uh we keep the
audience engaged this is we get to meet up and you guys can uh take part in the show which is always
a good thing and uh i i enjoy the the challenge and the adventure of it because you never know
what's going to happen i mean you get you never know that your commercials may not play or the article that you picked won't come up on the screen.
Who knows?
But thank you, Jason, for the kind offer.
We'll see what I can do in between now and your visit, my friend.
All right.
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And I think this Newsweek article, this is surprisingly on Newsweek, by the way.
It's an opinion piece by David Sachs.
And it's called the neocons and the woke left are joining hands and leading us into woke war three.
You know, it's funny.
And I read this headline and I'm not saying he stole it from me, but that was my line.
So I'm not saying he did.
I'm sure, you know, this is not that far off of being able to.
I mean, the the the vernacular of our time, the lexicon, it seems that you would
come up with that. But I said that on union of the unwanted, uh, with Charlie Robinson, uh,
and Sam Tripoli, oh gosh, back in March, I called it woke war three. So, um, this is about how,
of course, and it talks about Elon Musk got in hot water again on Twitter for proposing peace.
Well, he also got into the kill list of these wonderful peace loving people.
On Monday, Elon proposed a peace deal to end the war in Ukraine for which he was denounced as a pro Putin puppet by the Twitter mob that has formed the and to police the discourse related to Ukraine.
And of course, there's the tweet from Elon Musk,
Ukraine-Russia peace, redo elections of annexed regions under UN supervision,
Crimea formerly part of Russia as it has been since 1783.
It's actually called borderland.
And he has a little poll there.
The president of Ukraine, Zelensky accused musk of supporting russia even though musk's company spacex donated starlink to ukraine's war effort
at an out-of-pocket cost of 80 million and says full disclosure musk is a friend
and this is a he's a friend of this author i I guess, an investor in SpaceX. Um, you know, it's funny too.
A lot of these times when it becomes such a cult thing, they won't even take yes for an answer.
Like you can, if you don't give them everything, if you're not with the narrative 100%, then you're, you're an enemy.
And that's, I'm moving on to the stories is, uh, what matters in this story is not that Musk was told off,
but rather that a Twitter hive mind is using the same intolerant cancellation tactics
that have been used to shut down debate on domestic political issues
in order to shape U.S. policies towards Ukraine.
They are doing so by demonizing dissent, defaming opponents,
and closing off as an ideologically unacceptable to any path other than to peace or de-escalation.
The online mob has decided that support for any negotiated settlement, even proposals that
Zelensky himself appeared to support at the beginning of the war
is tantamount to taking russia's side denouncing voices of compromise and restraint as putin's
apologists this removes them from acceptable discourse and shrinks the overton window
to those advocating the total defeat in russia and the end of Putin's regime, even risk of World War III.
He says, but we've seen this before.
The woke mobs on Twitter, routinely demonizing and defaming their political opponents,
impugn the motives of anyone who questioned their goals and tactics.
What makes the I stand with Ukraine version of the Twitter mob unique is that it brings together two forces that used to be sworn enemies of one another well i'll talk a little bit about this this author
obviously doesn't know but he says that the the woke left and the neoconservative right
sworn enemies it turns out they share many of the same loathsome ideological and personality traits and have
a similar slash and burn approach to political engagement.
It's a new political marriage.
Well, sort of.
Anybody that knows anything about neoconservatism, it has its roots in Trotskyism.
You know, they don't mention that. Irving Kristol, father of Bill
Kristol, one of the contributors and authors to the
Project for the New American Century, as well as the Weekly Standard.
I think
it was David that said it's the Weekly Standard, W-E-A-K.
But yeah, that's the weekly standard.
But they have roots in, they were the followers of Leon Trotsky.
And of course, Leon Trotsky was murdered by one of Stalin's operatives.
He was stabbed with an ice pick in Mexico back in the 30s. And Trotsky represented a worldwide revolutionary,
a continual revolution objective, philosophy,
whereas Stalin was the cold, calculating bureaucrat,
basically where the revolution ended for Marxism.
It became the state.
The state was the goal. But Trotsky wanted to continue to
how he had this grandiose idea. It kind of reminds you of the what Hillary Clinton called the
politics of meaning. These people were atheists or something else, right? They believed in
their own godlike powers to forge forge history so they but this again
that comes from to comes back to this idea of perpetual revolution so these followers of leon
trotsky um who became the neo-conservatives were once part of the liberal order um back in the 30s. You even had, was it Thomas Dewey, the philosopher,
who, that's where you get the Dewey Decimal System,
was a follower of Trotsky.
And you get all these other intellectuals
that became the neoconservative movement.
And out throughout the, what, the 1960s,
they were part of the johnson administration
and it wasn't until uh george mcgovern in 1972 who got trounced by nixon was running as a peace
candidate he was a world war ii veteran and a man of peace and they uh the neoconservatives bolted
and they went to the Republican Party.
And so the Republican Party, up until really the 60s, Nixon was elected to end the war.
Eisenhower was elected to end the Korean War.
Republicans were usually the party of non-intervention, or at least skeptical of intervention. But after the,
Pat Buchanan called them the boat people of the McGovern election,
kind of hearkening back to the boat people in Cambodia,
Vietnam,
who,
you know,
fled,
you know,
the destruction of their own homeland. And the same thing happened to the neocons.
The democratic party was their home and they left and joined the Republican Party. And they they were able to, with a very small amount of people, shape the policy of the Republican Party. conservative talk radio, the most conservative thing that you can be for is war. Now, how did that happen?
Like the most patriotic good thing that you can do as a, as a, you know, red, white, and
blue, uh, Patriot conservative is to be advocate is to advocate the, the, the invasion of a
country or the bombing of a country.
You guys know this, this is like the highest order of things.
Neocons were able to hijack and fool values voters by taking certain subject matter like pro-life.
They never intended to do anything about it.
They just said they were able to triangulate and say, well, we're for these things.
We're pro-life. We're pro-gun. We're we're for these things. We're pro-life.
We're pro-gun.
We're pro-Second Amendment.
We're pro-free market.
And really, all they really care about is perpetual warfare.
Look at John Bolton.
What is his raise on debt?
What is his reason?
What is his primary motivation?
Is it a free market economy?
Is it the Bill of Rights?
Is it free speech?
Is it building free market economy? Is it the Bill of Rights? Is it free speech? Is it building a republic? Is it a strong economic future? No, it's war.
Look at Nikki Haley. What is her main concern? Is it your rights? Is it government overreach?
What is it? What does she want to combat? Well, she wants to combat everything except for the state or except for government power.
It's all about external threats, and it's all about using the United States.
It's a vehicle. The United States is used as a vessel.
It's not an end unto itself it's just a means and so i uh i'll get back to this article
but the the the main theme here is that the origins and i read an article years ago i wish
i would have been able to pull it up before the show but it was uh the title and it was from
mainline journalism and it said hey billol, your Marxist roots are showing.
I used to call them the Karl Marx Republicans, and people would look at me and go, what are you talking about?
These people, the neocons, their intellectual roots go to Leon Trotsky, which go to Marx.
This isn't conservatism.
They want to adopt every plank of the Communist Manifesto.
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backs you know, and it's
kind of like the, the allegory of the story of the store, a scorpion and the frog.
You guys ever heard that, you know, where the, there's a, uh, you know, a rainstorm
and, uh, the, there's a big, the stream swells up and there's a scorpion and the frog on
one side.
And, uh, the scorpion says, you should give me a ride across the stream. And the frog says,
no, I can't do that. You'll sting me. And the scorpion says, why would I do that? We'll both
drown. And the frog says, well, I guess that makes sense. And so he led him on his back about
halfway through the journey. The scorpion stings the frog and the frog's paralyzed and they're both
drowning and going down. And the frog says, why did you do that? And the scorpion says,
because I'm a scorpion. It's just what I do. So they're always, they've always been the scorpion.
And that's why this isn't such a leap for me. You know, marriage of the neocons. This is just over a decade ago,
former President Barack Obama defeated Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary
to become president, doing no small part to the opposition to the Iraq war.
At the time, the left despised neocon hawks for pushing the Bush-Cheney administration's disastrous forever wars in the Middle East.
Moreover, the left supported Obama and his policy toward Ukraine when he refused to escalate with Russia over Crimea,
pointing out that America has no vital interest in Ukraine, though Russia does.
As a result, Russia would be able to maintain escalatory dominance, Obama said.
This is an example of where we have to be very clear about what our core interests are and what we're willing to go to war for, said Barack Obama.
But since neoconservatives largely walked out of the Republican Party over Trump and disavowed all of their conservative domestic views to become commentators on MSNBC,
well, see, they didn't disavow them.
They just don't need them anymore.
They never believe them.
That's what I've been saying for all these years.
It's like these people are shapeshifters.
They don't care about these issues that you think they care about.
It just is about war.
Everything is about war.
And when you start to see it, you won't be able to unsee it. And then you go, ah, that's what happened. And by the way, they didn't all leave the Republican Party. All right. They're still there. The people have a massive amount of control.
They joined MSNBC, and the left has discovered a new love for interventionist foreign policy as long as it serves democracy and opposes autocracy.
That's another one of their favorite things is democracy. It's a cult.
I call them the democracy cult cultist an increasingly malleable
term that both the wokes and the neocons now used to define not just putin but also democratically
elected leaders like victor orban and hungary uh georgia maloney and italy and donald trump in the
united states despite voting for obama because he promised to break with neoconservative foreign
policy, the left has now joined with neocons to oppose Obama's restrained foreign policy in Ukraine.
It says the shift is disorienting, but on a purely tactical level, it makes a certain amount of
sense. Neocons invented the cancellation game before there even was a Twitter board on which to play it.
Neocons arrogantly dismissed the other side's point of view as argued in bad faith and not worth considering and would label anyone who dares question their cause as a heretic and a traitor. I was one of them, and I opposed the Iraq war, even though I was being sent into the invasion of it.
Tony was an early.
I opposed it early.
I couldn't intellectually argue the reasons why.
It was gut level. David Frum set the neocon standard for this tactic when he branded the small number
of pundits on the right who opposed the Iraq war as unpatriotic conservatives at the onset of the
strategic disaster. Fast forward to today and anyone who suggests that NATO expansion could
have been a contributing factor to the current Ukraine crisis or that the sanctions imposed on Russia are not working and have backfired on us.
A soon-to-be shivering Europe, or even that the U.S. must prioritize avoiding war with a nuclear-armed Russia,
denounces a Putin stooge.
Warping the debate in this way allows the delusional and contradictory thinking to go unchallenged
thus we get the argument that putin is a madman who will kill indiscriminately to achieve his aims but he is also somehow definitely bluffing about using nuclear weapons i love the two things
you know i love how i love i love the dichotomy of the things that the ruling class and the mainstream narrative puts in front of us.
They're usually just totally opposed.
He's only using that bluff because he's losing the war.
But if he's not stopped in Ukraine, he will go on to conquer the rest of Europe.
I know this is 2022, but guys, you look back at the end of the 90s.
Remember Milosevic?
Nobody does.
He was going to be the next Hitler.
It must be exhausting always being trapped in 19.
It's always September 1st, 1939 for these people.
It's always like, it's the next Hitler.
It's the next one.
It's the new one.
Whatever new thing is, it's always the next.
He's going to dominate. He's going to take Europe.
Yeah, it's nonsensical.
Let's go
through this. As long as this woke
neocon allowance is allowed to set the terms
of the debate, we will continue
to see a one-way ratchet towards
greater and more dangerous escalation of this conflict. There will be no peaceful resolution to this conflict that America
doesn't have, or excuse me, there will be no peaceful resolution to this conflict that America
doesn't at least have a hand in negotiating, and we should be leading the effort. Instead,
we've been deferring to the Ukrainians
and their maximalist demands,
upping the sanctions on Russia
as Putin ups his rhetoric against the West.
Someone blew up the Nord Stream pipeline
just in case another key nation, such as Germany,
had thought about coming to the bargaining table.
Well, someone, right?
It's just a shadowy group.
It can't be us. It can't be us.
It can't be our people.
It says,
a regional war turned into the first world war
because all parties made maximalist demands
and assumed others were bluffing.
It can happen again,
especially if the media, social media,
and foreign policy elite join forces
and use woke cancellation tactics
to preclude
discussion of any alternatives.
Right now we are locked in an escalatory path and the destination ahead is
woke war three.
Well,
I hope the author did find woke war three from me.
I've used it a few times.
It's a good one and it's true,
but here's things I think he missed.
The neocons are just going home.
That's where they always were.
They're a cult of war.
It has nothing to do with politics.
They're way beyond politics.
It's a calling.
Again, it's like what you would call their raison d'etre.
It's their, again, it's like what you would call their raison d'etre. It's their reason for existing. You know, the neocons in large part, I believe, use their struggle or their political goals as a means for self-fulfillment, right?
Self-actualization.
Again, Homer, who wrote the Iliad or had remembered the Iliad,
and I think this was probably a series of people,
but we'll find that all men need the gods, right?
G.K. Chesterton said that best.
When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing.
They believe in anything. People need something. They need something.
That's part of who, that's how we're made up of of that need right and so they fill it if you don't fill it with the actual with god almighty then you fill
it with these many gods you fill it with uh the gods of war the gods of war, the gods of revolution. Anything going back to Marx
has the touch of the devil, in my opinion.
It's satanic. Because everything that Marxism does
destroys. It's a great enemy.
And you look at, again, I challenge anybody
to look at the roots of neoconservatism and you find Trotskyism, you find Marxism, which means at the end of the day that the two major parties in this country, and I've heard this phrase this way before, is that you're basically looking between and having to choose between the right-wing Marxists and the left-wing Marxists.
That's your choice.
Both are really bad.
But again, pay attention to that.
You'll never unsee it.
I'm going to bring Guard Goldsmith in here.
There he is, Guard.
Hey, Tony, how you doing?
Good to see you, my friend.
How's your morning going?
It's going great.
Feeling a great deal better. Still maybe not sounding so good, but really, really good to hear your voice offering this information and especially about the neocons.
Boy, oh boy. I wish my mom and dad were here to hear what you are saying because they have been, for ages,
they kept talking about that
and the Trotsky connection.
It's great to be here
on the program.
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i have to say tony you know it's funny i got a new phone a little while ago and um uh you'll see my
text over to you and you know folks obviously we communicate in the back channels and so on as we get prepared.
But I have not received notifications on my phone that I've gotten text messages, sometimes for over 24 hours.
So I've got to go to the phone company and talk to them about it.
Okay.
Yeah.
No problem, brother.
Well, I was just finishing up this article on newsweek which
i found it was and somebody you know this author i hope he did take it from me i i i was talking
about woke war three uh back in march he used he used that term i thought well maybe maybe somebody
picked up on something i said but i remember when you said that i i love that term yeah you were on with charlie yes yes i was on with charlie and um
anyway this this is i think uh good that this is finally hitting um the uh the the mainstream
again it was on newsweek and there is an unholy alliance and of of these political factions and
if you notice there really isn't a difference in them. You know,
the Republican Party is probably poised to take the House back in next month during the midterms.
It doesn't look like they're going to win the Senate. There's not going to. Do you do you think
just talking politics before we get into something interesting. Are you taking away that there's going to be a red wave, Gard?
Well, I think there would have been a red wave,
but I don't trust the ballots.
I think what's been happening over the past six months in the media
is that they've been having set up polls to try to massage
a message where if they can get any particular seats thrown through surreptitious means,
they'll do so. And then they will portray it as, well, the red wave wasn't as strong as we thought
it was. And I think a lot of the polling numbers recently have been indicative
of that. I worked at a polling place when I was in college and I saw what they did in the
background. And it's just an example. I would say that at least half or most polling places
are corrupt and they know where their bread is buttered. And, um, uh, of course by
saying that, who knows, uh, maybe I could be sued for slander now and I'll have to pay a billion
dollars. That's right. We, uh, we could be sued at any time for a billion dollars. Uh, unbelievable.
Yeah. So, but anyway, but, um, yeah, yeah. Just to give you a quick example, this was during the Dukakis versus George H.W. Bush battle.
And I was in Boston.
And so I worked at this place and they were using push polls.
They were putting information out there that was false about George Bush, even though I didn't support George H.W. Bush.
I knew the information was false.
So they were leading this and putting this information contextually into the
polls when they would call people. And then it turned out that three days a week, we were working
for the Boston Globe. And then two days a week, we were working for the Dukakis campaign, the same
company, and they were using the same polls. So the material that they were pushing, it was all
propagandistic. And they would select certain regions where they knew that the result they would get the results they wanted.
Sort of like the climate change stuff, you know, moving the temperature readers over on a tarmac by airports so they'll get higher temperatures.
It's the exact same thing. So I think what what's been going on is they've been doing a preparatory thing to make it look like, oh, the support for the Redss for the gop has been dropping and i'm you know obviously
i'm not a member of the gop uh but um i think it's it's been um it's been foreshadowing uh
something that they're they're trying to do in the background and i think they can manipulate the
polls as easily as they want to yeah i mean um i hope that that the audience understands it's
just i've been studying this stuff since I was a little kid.
I'm talking about the political landscape.
And the more you study it, the more you absorb it, the more you live through it.
You realize at a certain point so much of it is unauthentic.
And you just, it's a game.
And I don't like the game.
So I just literally, I don't even find it interesting.
To me, I guess I'm at the point now in politics where does it matter if if our controls or deep controls?
I mean, those two things to me are the same entity.
I know that they aren't at some practical level.
I do understand politics like, you know, you're better off in a in a and i even despise the term red state but you're
probably better off there in so many like especially during a covid 1984 situation you're
you're better off there but that's kind of like being the valedictorian of summer school it's
like well you know i'm this is the best that of the of the least you know so yeah so i i i have a hard time
getting excited about it it's like we're the republicans are just like a governor that gets
put on a a an engine that's you know uh driving a vehicle uh that you're riding in against your
will over a cliff it's like it's just going 150 miles an hour it's going 45
and uh you're supposed to just be calm i i called uh like modern conservatism i called it i called
them hospice care conservatives like so imagine you're in a hospital and uh there's two nurses
like when then and you're you're really bad off. And one nurse is like, well, you know, I'm going to give you some medicine.
We're going to keep you comfortable. We really aren't going to do anything to help you get well.
But we're going to hold your hand and talk to you about the good old days.
And we just want you to be real comfortable. And that's the Republicans.
And then the other nurse is the Democratic Party. And they're waiting for everybody to leave so they can put the pillow over your head. So, I mean, they're basically the same. Either way, you're not getting out of there
or you're not getting better, but you might feel better from the hospice care conservatives. So,
I don't know, Gard. I like to, you know, smart people like you, I can talk politics with,
but I just get so, I mean, we we started off the show i think i spent like
three minutes on i was talking on drudge uh the headlines you know which were uh the the 50 50
senator here i'll put it up on the screen this is this is oh yeah the red letters the red letters
it's telling us what's going on utah utah's a wild card but at the end of the day if they're
not talking about the issues that really affect us if they're not talking about the issues that really affect us, if they're not talking about the unconstitutional lockdowns, if they're not talking about the fact that we have political prisoners in this country, if they're not talking about the escalation of NATO and World War III and our shift in foreign policy towards the Chinese and the digital dollar.
None of those things are on the table for these elections.
I'm not even sure what they're running on.
Are you familiar?
Because I know that you really dive into this.
I still can't find what they're running on.
No, in most cases, what you find with the GOP is in most of the GOP platforms, you get the, there's the immigration issue. And, you know,
the GOP has not done anything about that. So I just don't know whether they could be trusted.
And then you get a lot of patriotism, you get stuff on the economy. And I'm always amazed because
if you go to the inner workings of these GOP Republican parties in most of the states,
they're so closely tied to Washington, D.C. and the GOP in Washington, D.C. that they're not
going to rock the boat that much. With Trump, it looked like there was a
rocking of the boat that was occurring. There was an establishment neocon GOP that did not like
Trump, especially because he was not willing to rattle the saber against Syria. He wanted to
pull out of Afghanistan and he looked like he was much more in favor of peace. Now, in the initial
few months of the Trump administration, he bombed the Syrian air base. It was pretty limited, but still people died.
It was unconstitutional. And, you know, for something like that, a president should have
been impeached. I mean, that's just the way that their system is supposed to work, according to
the U.S. Constitution. But, you know, for for contemporary by contemporary standards, it was, you know, virtually, you know, nobody noticed it.
So I think as far as the election goes now, I think that I think you will see a changeover in
many of the seats. I think the Republicans are going to get massive wins just because people
are, there's such a huge tsunami of opposition against the Democrats. And I don't think it's
being reflected by the polls. I think if the thresholds are large enough at the polls,
then the Republican, then cheating at the polls won't be sufficient to stop this.
Now, I hedge it a little bit because I think Trump's margin was probably much higher than a victory over Biden.
I think clearly Trump was supposed to have won that election.
And, you know, there was some nefarious daring's due, daring due going on there on behalf of Biden.
But, you know, again, I've got no no horse in this race.
So and this is just, you know, from an anarchist libertarian observer's point of view, it was very clear that some weird stuff happened that night and the way that they set things up with the mail-in
ballots and you can't go to the polling places, but you can go march for BLM thing. If they'd only
allowed people to drop off their ballots after they had marched at BLM protests, then maybe
it would have been fine. But they use the lockdowns and the pandemics as excuses to stop people from going to the polling places.
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is it a free and fair election well first of all of all, as you and I know, democracy is not fair in the first place. And so all of this, and that's why Aristotle said you've got to have a constitution, try to restrain government to try to only set up those parameters by which the government is supposed to operate. And they long ago gave that away.
So now it's just a power game. And what I find interesting is, as you can see with the neocons,
the wolves get into various sheep attire as they go along to try to slip in to party attire to say,
oh no, we're with you. We're with you. So especially during the Cold War, they were able
to have some big government Republicans involved there. As long as they fed the military industrial
complex, everything was fine. So since the fall of the Berlin Wall, there's been this gradual
shakedown. And I think Trump sort of represented that. You saw the political races of Pat Buchanan really starting
to pull people back to say, hey, why should we be surrounding the world, embracing the world
with our military? Why should we be policing the world? As the New Bomb Turks, a band from
Akron, Ohio says, if we're going to be the police of the world, I want my donuts free. So I think that the polls might not be giving
a full picture, but in order to really get past some of this corruption within the polling places,
and again, no election is fair because democracy is not fair. But as far as that game goes,
I think there's going to have
to be a massive turnout of the new surge of conservatives. I think that's a really smart
analysis. And I do offer up my bias, you know, because I have such disdain for the two parties.
And I used to be a Republican. I actually ran as a Republican. I still speak to Republicans. It's not like if you're in that party that
I'm opposed to you or something. It's just the
sheer fact that nothing can change when you have these two.
We can't have real reform of anything as long as this stays in place, this
two-party paradigm. I was thinking while you were talking, there was a
great scene on the movie
nixon i hadn't watched it like it's what is my favorite movie it's oliver stone has nothing
the reason it's my favorite movie is just because the history and how like oliver stone made it this
greek tragedy style like really loud thing with like imagery i don't know if you've ever seen it
it's it's really it really is interesting anthony Anthony Hopkins plays Nixon, but there's this great scene where they send, at the time, I want to say it was Archibald Cox, who's the attorney general.
They send him down to talk to Nixon, and they said, well, the Congress has drawn up several articles of impeachment.
And they start going down the list, and says oh um he says uh the third one is
bombing cambodia and he goes bombing cambodia he says they can't impeach me for bombing cambodia
the president could bomb whoever he likes and so that was the that's the mentality like everything
else may was that we'll have to fight that one but bombing people that was totally fine so i just
thought i thought i'd bring that up because that is the heart of the matter,
is what the ruling elite and the establishment feel like they can do.
And that goes beyond party.
That's just whoever the wind in power of the ruling class.
So, yeah, again, it's hard to – I mean, if you look at the election,
and I've gotten – I mean, back in 2020, it's one of the reasons I'm not welcome on certain networks.
And one of the reasons I'm not, I lost a ton of listeners because I was telling people, well, this is what's going to happen.
Basically, you know, look, looking at what the analysis that David Knight's doing and thinking, well, that's really smart.
I agree with that.
And then taking my own, you know, again, my own stance, my own, my own take on it. I lost a lot of listeners. But one of the things that I think about these elections and a lot of the even the educated voting public doesn't understand is that we have a demographic shift in this country. And you look at a place like California, Gard, what are politics in California?
It really isn't.
I mean, because you have one monolithic ruling party.
Now, you don't really have that in red states, and I don't like that term.
I'm using it as the nomenclature of pop culture.
Yeah, the unfortunate change, yes.
I don't like it, but this is called the red state for
lack of a better term i guess that's recognizable you can turn those blue those can be turned blue
and i you know roy moore we saw that in alabama deep red alabama can go democrat based off of how
you know a character assassination or you can you can have a campaign against a candidate strong enough to even turn something like Alabama blue.
But you can't turn a California red. You can't. It's impossible.
You wouldn't have the ability to do that because of the demographics are so strong and so overwhelming.
And that's what you look at Trump's election in 2016.
Ann Coulter said this back in 2018.
I thought, wow, that's really smart.
And it's absolutely true.
Trump won by 80,000 votes spread over four states.
That's really the president because he didn't win the popular vote.
He won the swing states and he won them by 80,000 votes spread over four states.
You fast forward four more years.
I mean, how you're importing legally 800000 new Democrats a year.
I mean, and plus the amount of people that are coming online, coming of age.
I just don't again, 80 percent of new immigrants vote Democrat.
The Republicans. Yeah, exactly.
And, you know, for the longest time, I and it's it's so clear the way that that labels are used.
We're all aware of it. Everybody knows that the vast, vast majority.
And I mentioned this in an MRC TV video, the vast, vast majority of Republicans.
And again, I'm not a Republican. Right. They're not racist.
They're not white supremacists. They're not,
you know, whatever. In fact, in most cases, I find Republicans look less at race and just
at content of character and ability to do things best in a marketplace. And they're kind to people,
especially Christians. And it's amazing that the Democrats portray it this way.
And yet the history of the Democrat Party has been incredibly racist going up through the 1960s.
Right.
So it just it boggles your mind. I think it's fairly obvious that the Democrats, as much as they wave the flag for inclusion, what they're really doing is waving the flag to bring more people in so that they can get them on the voter rolls.
Right now. Yeah. And, you know, small criticism. And by the way, Ann Coulter, you mentioned Ann Coulter.
She's incredibly nice. I know that she gets a lot of a lot of flack from a lot of folks, but I was with Ann Coulter and John Fund back at a party.
It was a big gala. We had all attended this journalism thing in different years and they had a reunion there.
I just got in the elevator at the end of the thing. We're all in our tuxedos and nice outfits and everything.
And she asked me where I was from.
And I said, oh, you know, New Hampshire came down for the night.
And she asked me to join her and John on top of the George Washington Hotel for drinks and just hang out.
So we had a great time.
It was really nice.
But, you know, she is on top of a lot of these things in a way that brings her a lot of criticism.
But I think that one of the areas that I wish she would open up a little bit and other Republicans would is when they say that, yeah, we worry that immigrants might be getting on welfare, they might be bringing in crime and so on and so forth.
Well, let's not adhere to the standard that welfare is only for Americans. Welfare is
immoral. Government provided welfare can only be sourced through theft. It is an immoral construct.
You can't agree to say, well, you know, they're not even U.S. taxpayers. Why should they get welfare? It's like, hey, guess what? It's not your place to say whether person B or person C can be the recipient of stolen goods.
OK, how about that? And this is this is one of the major problems that I find with with some of the conservatives is we know that sentimentally they probably agree.
But sometimes I find that they, you know, they get caught up in the immediacy of the argument on television or whatever, and they drop that. And I wish that they would continue to mention it because there are so many issues that pop up where after time, even so-called conservative Republicans begin to think that it is acceptable to argue this on the federal
level. We talked about natural disasters, totally unconstitutional. Nothing in the U.S. Constitution
allows a president to handle the results of some natural thing, whether it be a fire or ice or
whatever. And then when you talk about the practicalities of it, at what level does it
become an emergency? When you have a big puddle in your yard or when
it's a lake? I don't know. But why don't you leave it up to the local people? That brings
bonds together. And then you don't have to take money from somebody who doesn't even live here.
It's not constitutional. So these are the types of things that occasionally they stick in my mind
because you see these arguments. They'll talk about infrastructure, the infrastructure bill.
What the heck does the United States government have to do with infrastructure?
You know, they build the interstate highway, the interstate highway system.
They got an interstate highway in Hawaii.
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Where are they going to go?
What state are they driving to?
To leave a preposition dangling.
It's absurd.
And yet people accept these things.
It becomes this weird, you know, it's almost like if you live close enough to the cult,
their terminology starts to bleed over onto you.
Right.
And you accept it. You can't accept it.
You know, we talk about live by lies and that I mentioned this, I mentioned this earlier to you
when we were, we were filling in together. It's not just your own lies. It's generational lies
that normalcy bias is such that the new generation doesn't even know their lies
and they accept it as the truth.
So anyway, that's my little soapbox there on that. I like, I like it. And I would say,
ironically, you're right on like two, two different counts. What does government have
to do with infrastructure? Nothing because they literally do nothing. I mean, so yeah. And in,
in libertarian theory and, you know, anarchist theory, they really shouldn't.
But that's, again, I love your point of view there, but they really don't have anything to do with our infrastructure.
They're just like absentee.
Like, well, we have to bomb you first and you have to be outside of this country for us to think about it.
And there was a famous comedian that said years and years ago, why don't we just invade Detroit?
You know, we could go set up new schools and water systems and all that stuff.
You know, I think looking at this, Gard, I'd love to get your opinion.
There's a sheriff in Baylor County, Texas, that wants to file criminal charges against DeSantis.
And then the first thing he said for shipping the migrants up to Martha's Vineyard.
And then it's changed to, well, these were victims of a crime.
Yeah.
So we're going to give them green cards.
Well, so this back and forth.
And first of all, I know it's like, so on the surface,
I just released on Paratrooper on my podcast i had a conversation with kenrick ward who's one of the i mean the
neocon or not neocon the paleocon anti-neocon uh real journalists left in this country and um
his his style and everything he's he's got a citation in The Death of the West by Pat Buchanan,
and we've been friends for a good while now,
and he obviously writes about immigration,
and we were talking about this,
and he corresponds with me pretty much every day.
He'll send me a link or something via text,
and one of the things we were talking about
and we happened to agree on is that these stunts,
you know, like you governor got a governor of Texas or
governor of Florida, you send the migrants up to Martha's Vineyard. I don't care if you, uh,
imported and bust up half the population of Mexico city to the Eastern seaboard. It's not
going to change our immigration policy. Right. Right. So I know that on the surface, I kind of
chuckle because it, you know, you even reach even reach my demographic where I think that's like, oh, I get it.
That's pretty much a slap in the face to the limousine liberals and the elite, the same people in Martha's Vineyard who, like Ted Kennedy,
you want all this solar power and wind and all this stuff.
And they started putting the they're going to construct the turbines off Martha's Vineyard.
No, NIMBY, not my backyard. Right.
So we were talking and I think that I'm tired of the stunts. I don't think that that really helps. I think it's
all political, and I just, this back and forth, this triangulation to capture certain demographics
without actually solving the problem. I mean, people have been, especially the Republican Party,
they've been running on doing something about illegal immigration,
you know, border, illegal border crossings, all that stuff since I was a little boy.
Right. And so you've not done anything. You're not going. I mean, if if history is our guide,
then you're not doing going to do anything about it. And we just keep I mean, we're just now we're
just kind of fighting over the crumbs of what's left. Yeah, you know, Tony, this is a this is an area where immigration in particular, you know, I gave a presentation at one of the Free State Project events on immigration, on the economics of it and on the constitutional side of it. And then the economics of it goes back
to when I teach economics and I talk about the inclined plane, division of labor, trade,
things like that. And then when we get into the constitutional side of it,
now again, I would much prefer to have the Articles of Confederation. And I look at the Constitution as a usurpation of
the Articles brought about by some conniving people like Alexander Hamilton, who wanted a
central bank and wanted to be able to throw out graft for special projects like the interstate
highway system, that sort of stuff that came later with the same mentality.
But when I first started writing for MRCTV, one of the areas where
they said, you know, if you want to write on this subject, we probably wouldn't take these
articles because I'm on contract with them. I'm not a full employee with them.
They said it was probably immigration because, you know, our viewers and listeners and readers,
they're very, very strong on anti-immigration, pro-borders. They want to stop the flood of
illegal migrants and crime and welfarism and the flood of Democrat, potential Democrat voters.
And I said, okay, no problem. I won't write about that.
But occasionally I had to, because there were, you know, the way stories go, you got to touch on
multiple things just to be able to bring in that context. So my research into this, as you know,
and I've spoken with David about this, is for people who call themselves constitutionalists,
the first thing on their mind should be, this is not a federal issue.
It is indisputable that it's not a federal issue. I mean, I could argue with any human
being on the planet today and destroy them in an argument on this. Every person. And I've debated Pat Buchanan. I've debated Tom Tancredo,
J.D. Hayworth. And they all agree. They all agree. And Pat's been great about it. He's like,
well, you're right, Gardner. And then they go, but, and then they go on with their position.
It's like, no, if you are running for an office that is created by the U.S.
Constitution or voting for an office that is created by the U.S. Constitution, you are explicitly
agreeing that the rules of the U.S. Constitution are the ones by which you are running. Therefore, since the word immigration does not appear in the U.S. Constitution
and only naturalization appears, we have to acknowledge that in Article 1 of the Constitution,
the ability of the Congress to set a rule for naturalization does not mean immigration. This is where Mark Levin always gets it wrong. I remember in one of his books, he said, the first rule of immigration
and naturalization was the naturalization act of such and such. I'm like, dude,
you just combined the word immigration with naturalization. That's wrong. The Immigration Act, 1798, Thomas Jefferson, he responds in the Kentucky Resolution
number four, and he says that it is a state issue. The only area, and I'll sort of run through this
quickly, the only area in the U.S. Constitution where someone could try to infer that there is some implication about
immigration is in the section where they talk about the importation of certain peoples
in the original 13 states, the states now existing is the phrasing that they use, shall not be prohibited or influenced,
I think, by the Congress until the year 1808. What they were talking about was the importation
of slaves. So what you see is in the United States Constitution, they allowed for the Congress
to determine how you became a citizen, but not whether non-citizens could be on the soil of states.
That was left up to the states.
And there were many states that had rules about that.
In 1869, Texas completed its constitution.
They had a Bureau of Immigration in the Texas Constitution.
As I mentioned, Thomas Jefferson, the Kentucky Resolution,
he openly stated, he said, and I could read it, resolved that alien friends on the soil of the
signatory states are under the rules of those states. And it being a rule of the United States
Constitution that the powers not granted to the federal government are reserved to the states. It is up to the states. Now, all throughout history, the trick about it was that
states were prohibited from imposing excise taxes. So you can look in Supreme Court cases,
and I hope I'm presenting this properly. You can look in Supreme Court case history throughout the early 1800s, and you can see that some states like Massachusetts tried to apply taxes on paupers
that were coming into the state. They tried to tax ship owners and put an excise tax on them
because they said that they would be a burden on police and things like that. Those taxes were
challenged, but not the state's ability to decide whether those people could arrive in the state and
stay in the state. So there's a distinction. The taxes were challenged, not the state's ability its ability to control immigration. And it was not until 1875, I think it was, or 1872,
with a case out of California called Chai-Lung v. Freeman, C-H-Y-L-U-N v. Freeman. It was a
California statute that was brought about to block Chinese immigrants. And it was challenged. And the reason they brought up the
block was they said that the women were prostitutes and they would be carrying diseases.
What was really at the heart of it was they wanted to block low wage Chinese laborers from coming
into San Francisco and working in the gold mines and working on the railroads. So the native workers didn't like the
lower priced competitors. So they wanted to block the California, in California, they imposed this
law. It was in the power constitutionally of California to do this. It went in front of the
Supreme Court and the Supreme Court ruled. And that was the very first time that this happened. It's a ruling as
bad as the Dred Scott decision, as bad as the Roe decision, and it has never been overturned.
And from that point, we got to Ellis Island and all of the imagery that we have ever since then
is a complete fraud. It is an absolute mirage. And people have to understand this. They don't get it.
After that, Congress passed its first immigration law. And you might've seen about a year and a
half ago, there were some ads from an Asian community about how they started to restrict
Chinese immigrants. They wouldn't allow Chinese women in. They wouldn't allow young Chinese men
in. That's when it all started. In 1872, I believe, was the decision of Chai Long v. Freeman. In 1875 was the first federal
immigration law since the 1798 Alien and Sedition Acts were passed. That is the point when it
started, 1872. And so if anybody wants to say that they are a pro-constitutionalist,
worth their salts, they've got to look into this and recognize it's a state issue.
Besides the fact that the states would better handle these issues.
Everybody knows that the local people on the ground, you can talk to local cops.
They know what's going on.
I talked to local cops here.
They're like, yeah, we know where the illegal immigrants are.
We can't do anything about it.
I would say the best argument for your point of view is just reality.
Like it didn't work. Obviously the federal government botched this deal.
I think on purpose, but you, you mentioned something, a key date there.
You're talking about the early 1870s. This is, you know, when the civil war,
the consolidation of power under Lincoln and to the federal government.
This was the process from which the United States are to the United States is.
Yeah. Oh, great point. Right.
You know, Tony, there's one other thing I should mention real quick.
And pardon me for jumping in. But as far as the logical syllogism here goes, there's one other very important point.
The Missouri Compromise was brought up years later, you know, after the land was acquired, you know, after the land was acquired from France and so on.
And they allowed for slave state, free state admission. Right.
So that was supposedly going to be how everything was going to be balanced out.
Slave state, free state, slave state, free state.
Now, think about this. If the Congress could control immigration into any of the states beyond the original 13 states, which is it's in the Constitution.
I'll get it. I'll call the document up and read that particular portion of the constitution. It only allowed for Congress
after 1808, which was supposedly an assurance to the South that they wouldn't affect slave
importation into the South until after 1808. But they could only control the importation of slaves
after 1808 in the original 13 states. And you know this because otherwise they wouldn't have had the Missouri Compromise. Because even if a state was admitted as a slave state,
then the Congress could come in and say, oh no, we're not going to allow states to go in there.
So they'd make them de facto free states. So it's very, very clear. It's inarguable
that there is no federal power beyond the original 13 states to control immigration of anybody.
And I just I really have to insist on this, that people wake up to what is what is the reality of their constitution.
Again, I didn't sign the Constitution. But if you look into this research, it's not that it's it's very simple. And again, why would Texas have have a Bureau of Immigration in its constitution if it was a federal issue? That was 1869. They passed that. Why would they bother doing it? Why wouldn't somebody come say, hey, you know, guys, you can kind of you can stop now because it's a federal issue. Right. And so the whole the whole thing is a big political football.
Republicans haven't done anything really about it. Trump didn't really do anything about it.
It's sort of to me, it's sort of like the way that the left lefties look at abortion.
You know, although I think that maybe they're not really correct.
They always think to themselves, you know, it's a fundraising issue. It's a fundraising issue.
It's like, you know, sort of like the way the NRA does, you know, they whistle a good tune, but they don't actually bite, you know.
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This is something that, speaking of Buchanan,
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well, I've argued with Pat Buchanan about this.
It's just, you know, just throwing that out there.
That's fun. I love it.
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I'm going to get to some more headlines with guard.
If I've got this much brain power, I'm going to use it.
I'm going, I'm going to use this to get to the, to the, uh, the final hour of the show.
But, um, Oh, and I want to thank all the
folks in the Rockfin chat, Mark. I got to, I got to read some of the comments. Vince is in there.
Mark is in there, Mark. You're right. The 1965 immigration act, uh, would have, would have,
should properly be viewed as a unconstitutional right on the money, man. Um, so many of these
things, ice, yeah. Ice unconstitutional so much. Yeah. Yeah. The Teddy Kennedy's Immigration Act
of 1965, you know, and some of the great things to watch and I'll have to pull it up. There was
an interview that I did back in 2019 with the head of Numbers USA. And that that's a think tank
organization on immigration, just showing people the actual numbers. And one of the videos they have that's
real famous called Gumball Immigration. And again, you know, you're talking about the policy and
we're looking at the I'm looking at the numbers as well and saying, you know, you've got this
massive influx of people we've never seen before because you always hear the myth,
you know, the nation of immigrants and that everything's immigration and we've had these giant waves and all this stuff.
Some of that is true. Some of it is is rooted in history.
But then they leave out things like we had pauses.
You know, we had pauses in immigration from the 1920s to basically the election of JFK.
I mean, there was a giant pause in the in the sheer influx of immigration. But since the fall of the Berlin Wall, it's been turned up along with the immigration of Act of 1965, Gardner, which was changing and Teddy Kennedy came up with it was engineering saying, well, we realize this is the United States is a Western country with with Western, you know, rooted in Western civilization and Christianity and so on and so forth.
And, you know, the literature and the history and heroes.
So let's do something totally different than anybody else in the world.
Let's take place.
Let's take a massive amount of immigration from places that don't have that same tradition and don't have that same history, and that will be our primary
influx of people, and that's what that means with the immigration. People mistake the Immigration
Act of 1965 as to mean more people. That's not really what it meant. It meant the same or more
people from different origin.
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, it's interesting, Tony, I think that that leverage that they employed to be able to pick and choose winners and losers on the immigration lottery is sort of a template for what they've been doing in so many other areas. They clearly learned from what they had done with industry,
going back to Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson,
even further back to Hamilton.
And, you know, again, we talk about buttering bread.
If you have the control over what types of people
from what countries can come in,
then you have some power over those people. You have power over those politicians in those countries. You can make
inroads in those countries. Ted Kennedy favored Irish immigrants big time. That was one of his
things. Of course, the Kennedy family comes from Ireland, as opposed to the Kerry family. John Kerry pretends he's Irish, and he's not Irish. It sounds Irish, but he's not. at the energy paradigm that they're trying to apply to all of us, getting us all onto
an electric grid.
It's all to be able to gain leverage over people.
And this is one of the things where even internally, immigration, that becomes much like the infrastructure
bills or the Medicare and Medicaid money.
The different politicians in various states start to rely on these things.
They start to become dependent on the central government to say, well, we need your money in order to get X, Y, and Z done. Well, if that's the case, then you're going to have to do
something for me. So there are a lot of power blocks that they can create for themselves
that sometimes they do it intentionally. And I
think sometimes they just stumble upon these things and they say, oh, wow, we can use this
to our advantage. Let's do it. You know, they always do never let a good crisis go to waste,
my friend. Yeah. Let's look at some headlines. Summit dot news put this out. And this is just
on the heels of you and I discussing this on Friday with the Pfizer announcement, but EU prosecutor opens probe into COVID vaccine purchases.
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attention to the von der Lange-Berla deal. Well, you know, Gard, I think we're going to see more and more and more of this type of stuff uh
there is a a change i believe in the uh the narrative tide or the energy whatever with
that it's like it's it's bouncing back it's coming back this way you know you've seen it
go so far out and you know the peak uh covidianian cult was the non-executive order that wasn't really an executive order and the mandates and the corporations.
And you had the battle between like the Southwest pilots and the CEO of Southwest, who's a member of the World Economic Forum. eek of that. And then you're starting to see that, again, that that receded. And now it's coming back
in the opposite direction. At least that's my take. That's my optimism that sometimes finds it
to the surface. But I wanted to get your take on this, you know, this in conjunction with the
testimony from the Dutch parliament, from the member of parliament there,
we went over about how the executive from Pfizer saying that we never tested. We didn't have any
data showing that it stopped transmission, even though that was the whole thing, the whole point
of the emergency authorization use. And then you're seeing things like this, where there's
some inside, there's inside operation, inside deals, and there's prosecutors going after these people, linking these CEOs. Do you think this is a sign
of the times? Do you think this is a harbinger of things to come with a bit more of it, or are we
just going to see it burn out? You're putting a smile on my face, Tony. Yeah. It's like,
hopefully my bright, shiny teeth are not over over whitening the screen here because I am
smiling about it. It does make me happy. And, you know, I sort of look at that woman, Janine Small
from Pfizer, who got nailed by the the Dutch EU minister when he asked her and she said, well,
no, of course we didn't know we had to move with the speed of science i mean just insufferably dumb uh just
she's sort of like the the victoria newland of pfizer you know she just exposes everything and
everybody must be like oh oh no oh you know but uh yeah you know not not to make light of it because
so many people have been harmed and and then, as Don has said, as you have said, probably, you know, this is the biggest PSYOP in the history of mankind.
This by far, nothing, nothing even compares to this.
I think you've got some subtle long term PSYOPs of central banking and fiat currency and things like that. And even to me, the illegitimacy of the state and the way that people accept it is probably, to me, the largest long term sign up of all time. But and the fact that this information was released.
So let's look at this possibly as like a John le Carré novel and think about it in this way and say, well, maybe, you know, this is something where they want to get Vanderlande out and they're really not going to do anything.
So somebody got in, released these emails between her and the Pfizer exec. They found these no bid contracts and then nothing's going to happen. But there are, as you say, there are some positive signs. And I'll bring this up. In fact, I just wrote an article yesterday for MRCTV and I'm going to go over and just check it out here um is it for
yeah i can send you the link or it's on the one the sunday news assembly for substack
yeah yeah yeah and in fact um yeah if you go over there the original story is um
is over there and it eventually goes over to the Financial Times. It's four red states,
and thank you for mentioning the subsect, Tony. Yeah, I don't even mention it very often. I keep
forgetting. Four red states withdraw $1 billion in government investments in BlackRock.
And they are GOP-led governments and they're doing it because of BlackRock's
involvement in environmental social governance, ESG. Says here, in an interview with the Financial
Times, South Carolina State Treasurer Curtis Loftus said he would pull $200 million from BlackRock by the end of the year.
Louisiana Treasurer John Schroeder said that last week he was withdrawing $794 million from BlackRock.
Utah's Treasurer Marlo Oaks said he liquidated $100 million in BlackRock funds,
and Arkansas reportedly pulled $125 million this year.
I can share my screen with you if you would like to see the piece that I wrote, which is over at MRCTV. But there you've got it right there. That's the original source right there, I believe. Oh, no. Yeah. So that's my sub stack. You'll see the original story is listed in there. I don't even know what number story it is. Yeah, but that's from my Sunday News Assembly.
Yeah. And so there it is. Yep. Seven. Yeah. Number seven. So that's a good sign.
And I think also it gives us an indication, and I mentioned this a little bit earlier,
it gives us an indication of just how much money, at least I was unaware, maybe you were already aware of this, Tony, how much money is circling around in this corporatized state government, federal government backed fascist system that we have in the United States. You've got a billion dollars just from four states
that was invested in just BlackRock through their public policy, whether it's retirement schemes or
whatever it might be. And I'll refer people also to the comptroller of New York a couple of weeks
ago was one of the integral players in getting that international standardization organization to apply the purchase codes to gun shops. He controls the
retirement packages of three of the major public workers unions in New York City.
Right.
And it's billions of dollars. So this, this was all money.
I didn't even think about this, but this power that these guys have because of the growth of
the state apparatus, you might say, uh, apparatuses. So, um, it's something that I think in a way it almost mimics, you've got the Northeastern, and I wrote
this in my MRCTV article, with this new development, what we're seeing is these are mostly
these states that pulled out of BlackRock. These are mostly Southern and Western oil, coal, and natural gas interest states. And their opposition are the Northeastern states.
There are nine Northeastern states that are all part of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative
program, which was started, as you know, many, many years ago, RGGI. And they've created this
faux pretend cap and trade system where they apply costs to their public utilities
carbon output. And then based on what the public utilities can put in for scrubbers and things like
that, they can get credits that they can trade on a faux government-created trading block where the government assigns a value to all the credits,
and then they can trade them and make money off them. It's all fake. They're playing with our
money, and they're still not allowing competition in our energy acquisition through various states.
They're still allowing for state-issued monopolies to give us our electricity.
So what I think is interesting is you get these Northeastern states.
It's almost like the pre-Civil War South versus the North.
You get the agricultural interests of the South.
You get the industrial interests of the Northeast.
They've got the power in Congress. They start to impose massive tariffs against foreign imports upon which the South is reliant so that the South will start to buy the products that are more expensive from the North.
You've got today Southwestern Western interests in oil and coal and natural gas.
And you've got Northeastern interests in controlling people.
And in central banking.
And I think,
yeah,
Amy Diamond brought this up.
I read an article on Friday and he was,
he was,
and I thought this is very strange.
And he's one of those figures.
I've been talking about him for months.
Cause he's saying some,
he's gone off script or maybe he hasn't.
Uh,
there's something weird about him,
but he's,
he's talking about this ESG.
And I was, I was trying to come up with the number. I's something weird about him, but he's he's talking about this ESG.
And I was I was trying to come up with the number. I don't know the number, like how much is invested in it. I would say not all of it, but most money. Right. So that's like the I mean, Trump put BlackRock.
You know, the linkage between BlackRock and the Fed now is they're kind of indistinguishable at this point. I mean, BlackRock is this this entity unto itself, but it also has connections to the central bank.
And the ESG is just I mean, this is just the Bolshevik Revolution 2.0 done in a more sophisticated way where you have you need you need a socialist system to set up a one world government.
You need a socialist system to ensure the survival of these corporations in perpetuity.
The corporations, in my opinion, are creating the environment to where no one could ever
compete with them again by destroying the very economies that gave them birth.
So, I mean, all of this, everything that we understood in the conventional sense about communism versus capitalism and whatever that is anymore has been turned on its head
because the calls are coming from inside the house. It's not what is perceived, like, you know,
when the Wokies go out and, you know, scream at the sky and protest, you know, what they perceive
as fascism or whatever, they actually promote fascism in the
biggest way, which is these corporations are using government, like you said, even creating policy
through government, which would help sustain them. I mean, I don't know why this is such a hard
concept for people to grasp, meaning that the wealthiest people in the world would conspire
to retain their power. And that's what they're
doing through these policies. Yeah. And I'll give you another example of this.
This goes towards American history. You got Alexander Hamilton, clearly a cronyist.
They've got the Articles of Confederation, but he has a lot of friends and they want to build a great nation. Well, why do they want to build a
great nation? I wonder. Gee, maybe it's because he's got a lot of banker friends and when they
build a great nation, they can rent seek. And they, if the great nation has the taxing power,
they can get the projects that the great nation is going to put forward as making a great
nation. So canal building, ah, friend of Hamilton's. Road building, friend of Hamilton's. Hey, I got
some friends. They'll take care of that for you. No problem. And guess what? They all purchased
the war bonds from the revolution from the penniless farmers at pennies on the dollar,
and Hamilton promised that he would have them paid back for them. And so, yeah, they imposed
an excise tax on the whiskey makers, and they brought in all that cash and started the Bank
of America. Now, what's interesting about that is, and as you know, when Andrew Jackson did not renew the Bank of the United States, they had what critics of free markets called the free banking era.
And they say, oh, it failed. Free banking era failed.
What they don't tell you is that the free banking era wasn't a free banking era.
As Ron Paul says, you don't have to abolish the Fed.
And you and I talked about this on Friday.
All you have to do is allow for competition because people will be drawn to the currency that retains its value.
And it won't be fiat currency.
It won't be imposed on people. It will be backed by gold and it will be transparent so people can check to see whether or not they're using fractional reserve lending. And if they're using fractional reserve, people won't go to those banks because they know that if they go there, they might not be able to get the gold that they want because the bank doesn't have enough on reserve. It only has a fraction compared to what it has been lending out, which means they can't pay back everybody. That's fractional reserve banking. So as you know,
but anyway, so what's fascinating is, and just historically during that Andrew Jackson period
of so-called free banking, when everybody's so critical of the free banking period,
what they don't tell people is that during the free banking period, they allowed the states to allow
for the private, so-called private banks. But in order for the private banks to be licensed,
to operate, they had to buy a certain amount of state debt. And then the states defaulted on their
debts. 14 of the, I think of the 17 states at the time defaulted on
their debts within a few years. So the whole system collapsed. So again, the problem was not
the private banking. It was the states. It was the political intervention because in the marketplace,
supermarkets, strangely enough, supermarkets can maintain themselves. They compete and we need food just like we need
money. And yet when the state gets involved with supermarkets, they fail. When the state gets
involved with controlling food, it fails. So how about we have the same program for banking? How
about we get the government out of banking? There's no way they would allow that because,
of course, the government has to control the money and again you know for
people who think that they've got to abolish the federal reserve and turn it back to the treasury
department and have the u.s government do it that's a mistake too just get it out of the hands
of the government yeah let the competition happen i i think that uh the the primary reason that
alexander hamilton did all that he did is in the future, they would write a rap musical about him. He just wanted to be his legacy. I think I think that was his.
I think it was his reason for being. Let's I love your take on that, Gard.
And, you know, we could that this is going to be in our time with the central bank digital currency coming.
All right. It's coming. And it's it's worldwide. It's systemic.
It's in all things. And it's leading back to the IMF now and the Bank of International Settlements. They want to
create a central bank digital currency
of central bank digital currencies to be able to collect these things and work in concert
with them, which is, in my opinion,
a prototype or could be the mark of the beast system for those of us
who are followers of Christ and understand that the world and the entities that run it
are not on our side.
Right.
So I think that they're creating that system.
It's up to us to oppose it.
And understanding the history of the monetary system is a good way to start,
you know,
and then like you,
you can see if, if this was taught in schools,
if when somebody has a child that comes into my shop,
if somebody's like, there's kids of all ages,
and I've never seen this before, but that are interested in silver or gold,
and they want me to tell them about it, which isn't every day,
but it's once or twice a month.
And then I'll get a chance to go
in the back in the vault and pull out some old gold coins and some old silver dollars and say
now i'm going to explain to you and with less than two minutes like why this is money and why
the and i'll pull out a dollar bill or a twenty dollar bill and explain this is this is not money
and this is money and then what happened to this like, why were these two things the same?
And then why they were removed?
And once you teach a young person that,
they can't look at reality the same
because it all really tracks back to that, right?
Everything, I mean, all the things that we cover,
it really goes back to the fact
that we have a financial class
that manipulate and engineer our reality
for their own ends.
And that's why we get the wars that we get, the politicians that we get.
Anyway, everything,
the policies are all engineered and put into motion by these,
these same entities. And that's what we, I mean, that's what we cover,
but love, love your take on that matter.
You want to anything close out on that subject?
And then we're going to go to a couple other headlines and maybe open up the phones.
No, there's the you bring up something that I used to discuss with students about, you know, sort of translating that lesson about central banking and how central banking and government policy can be used to manipulate things and expand the money supply through fractional reserve banking.
Because it's not just the central bank that does the fractional reserve banking.
As Joe Salerno has pointed out, Professor Joe Salerno, and people can see videos of Joe on the Von Mises Institute website or on YouTube,
every one of those banks that receives some cash from the Federal Reserve
is going to fractionally lend out itself, the smaller banks.
And then you've got the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the FDIC.
And you can see, as I think I might have mentioned this last week, you can see when they expanded the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, again,
patently unconstitutional, where they insured the deposits of signatory banks. When they expanded
that towards the, I think it was the end of the Reagan administration, the start of the Bush administration, it might have just been the start of the Bush administration.
But it was either 88 or 89 that they expanded by, I think, $100,000 every policy, every account that the federal government would insure.
Banks started to, again, moral hazard, started to lend out in much more reckless ways.
And so what did you see by 1991? There was a housing collapse. And when I was in college,
I worked for an auctioneer company and I actually would go into these houses and show off the houses
that people no longer could afford because they had
gotten the loans, they couldn't pay them back, and the banks themselves now had the property.
So we've got these opposing forces where I believe that organizations like BlackRock,
World Economic Forum, central banks like the ECB, certain politicians and different political groups
and non-governmental organizations know that they can gain great material assets if they can just
drive people to overextend themselves and buy these assets and then have to give them up.
And they'll get them at rock bottom prices. And it's just like Hamilton's friends got those war bonds and then they were
able to capitalize on them. It's the same mendacity, except now it's worldwide and it is big.
So I appreciate being able to talk about these sorts of things. It's cool that people are
starting to pick up on this. And I think even guys like Kanye are starting to
pick up on this game that's being played. Did you see me covering the news that Kanye
is buying Parler this morning? Yeah. Yeah. That was wild. I've never been able to log into Parler
because I very rarely use my phone to get into stuff. And then they were like, everybody's
moving. I remember the Exodus, like everybody's moving to Parler. Find me on Parler. So I was
like, okay, well, I started my parlor.
And then like, and then you log in one day and it was like, we're sorry,
we cannot complete your request. And then like, you know,
they pulled the plug on it. So I didn't know,
like I've never been able to go back.
I haven't looked because it was months and months of it being gone,
but I guess it's back and I wish them well. I mean, that's my sense.
I mean, I want as many platforms as possible. I want people. Obviously, I don't think that there can be free speech on anything that has the roots tied to DARPA. And, you know, these major Silicon Valley big tech platforms are basically an extension of the government. So I love competition. I need to do more over on Gab. I know you're on Gab.
On Gab, what's your handle?
Oh, it's at Gardner Goldsmith on Gab. Yeah, thanks. It's all combined. All the letters are combined.
And I like Gab a lot, too. And just over the past week, few websites have the little link tab to bring stuff over to Gab that, you know, it doesn't take much more effort for me, really.
And I should do it to just, you know, right click, copy, paste, because I'm mostly working on my computer and go over to Gab and drop things in.
And the people at Gab have been incredibly gracious to me over there.
Dave has got like a lot of followers,
like 100 times more than I've got.
I pay the fee to get verified because I thought, what a great organization,
Andrew Torba.
I'm going to go ahead and pay for it.
I think I pay like 15 bucks a month.
I got to do some more stuff over there.
It's just that I got so burnt out from social media, having things canceled on me and watching other people
that I care about canceled and shadow banned. And I mean, I'm running this right now on my Twitter
and David's Twitter. And I'm thinking how few people, I know people are watching on David
somewhat, but I think I can turn on mine, even with thousands of followers, it'd be like one
person as well. It's like, yeah, it's completely shadow ban uh into oblivion let's talk a little bit about uh katherine austin fits uh zero hedge
has an article out and um she said it's it's got it's global government re-engineering austin fits
warns that fed actions are 100 power politics it's war. So kind of in the same vein of what you were talking about, Gard.
Catherine Offit explains,
we are either in a major correction
or we're going into a bear market,
and a lot of it depends on many different politics.
If you look at the money being pumped out on climate change,
on green energy, environmental,
and all these other things in a different new sort of scams, it depends on how they inject money.
It's either a major correction or it could turn into a bear market.
There is no way to tell because this is purely political.
And she's talking about the actions of the Fed.
And she says, I think they're going to keep raising interest rates.
If you are the Federal Reserve,
you're playing a global game.
And what you have to do is protect the reserve currency status.
It looks to me like they have decided
that the BIS,
the Bank of International Settlements members,
need to be in the dollar channel.
They're doing everything they can do
to collapse the market share of the euro and move that into the dollar channel. They're doing everything they can do to collapse the market share of the Euro
and move that into the dollar syndicate.
I think they have to keep driving the dollar up.
The U.S. dollar index is up 113, and at one point was at 114.
One analyst said it was going to be 120.
They have the entire frontier market and the emerging markets in a bear trap.
And that's very significant power.
And she says, if you're going into the woods to shoot the bear, you can't wound the bear.
You have to kill the bear.
So I think the Fed is going to keep doing this for some time now.
They don't mind, as you learn from the pandemic, collapsing the small businesses side of the economy or collapsing the middle class, they're implementing the great direct and going direct reset. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's
right. And I think also there's a factor I hadn't really thought about, Tony, and I wonder what you
think about this. You know, one of my friends very early on got a position with Swiss Reinsurance Company,
and he's an actuary and studied mathematics and so on in college. And I think they have become
either the second largest reinsurance company or the largest reinsurance company in the world over
the past 10 years. So a lot of these giant corporations like BlackRock, they're covered. They've got the reinsurance.
Their bets are hedged.
Small companies don't have those margins.
I think Catherine Austin Fitz is right on the money.
My estimation, what do you think about this, Tony? I think that it's likely that the Fed is going to adjust its policy based on the results of the election.
It might sound like everybody listening probably like, well, Dugard, of course, that's probably going to be the way it is.
But that's just my that's my estimation. I think that they'll they'll either hold on any more interest rate manipulation if the Democrats retain control of the House, or they're going to continue to put the squeeze on.
Now, this is the sort of thing that if you're going to have a central bank trying to control the interest rates, their efforts are far too late and far too slow.
They should have done this a long time ago and been much more drastic about it.
And there would have been a lot of bankruptcies. But now, I don't know. I just don't see how they
can manage this situation. The only differential that I think could come into play here, other than the election, is the relative value of other currencies based on what's going on in the EU and their ridiculous trajectories regarding ESG and climate and locking down their energy supplies.
Because if that tends to really destroy productivity in Europe,
then we'll start to see the BRICS monies rising,
and it's going to be a competition between the BRICS.
It already is, really, between the BRICS and the U.S. dollar,
which, as we know, the Saudis are decoupling from it.
So, yeah, I think the dollar could look relatively better compared to the EU and other European currencies.
But without the Saudi aid there, I think there's some big trouble compared to the BRICS.
Yeah, the dollar is in its Indian summer.
I think it looks good right now.
You hear a lot of the reports
of the strong dollar,
but ultimately,
if they don't get World War III,
then they're going to lose
the reserve currency status
of the world.
They're eventually going to lose it anyway.
Again, you know,
Catherine Austin Fitz brings this up.
She says,
what you're looking at
is a fundamental reengineering
of the governance system
of the planet.
Most of the benefits of the dollar system come from the benefits of having the reserve currency
and being able to swap money you print out of thin air for real labor and real commodities worldwide.
She says that's an enormous benefit, and they're going to protect that benefit.
If they don't protect that benefit, they run the risk of everybody moving out of the channel.
This is what the Chinese and Russians are trying to do. See, this is the BRICS nations. I've heard several
commentators point out the fact that, yeah, in its current form, BRICS nations make up 40% of
the population of the globe. But if you add in their peripheral nations and people and other entities that are looking to join,
it's like 90% of the earth. And so, I mean, we're the arrogance and hubris of the, of the
American empire system and its currency is going to meet a hard road of reality. And we're all
going to have to prepare for that. I mean, right now it's not, there's no collapse happening that we can see,
but I start to look at the, everything around the, um, the structure that they've done,
like they've set up in place. It's just not going to hold, uh, with that, with everything
geopolitically, uh, and what they've done to the economy. Look at ESG guard. ESG is not based on profit. What are those companies that draw near to,
to things like black rock and they, Oh, we'll, we'll play ball.
Just let our pensions be connected to you. It's not about profit.
It's about your, the relationship with the central bank.
And what's what Catherine Austin fits mentions in this article is that the
entities that control the central banking don't mind uh destroying
uh parts of the economy to get their wish to get to make their will complete which is like you saw
the non-essential people the small businesses had to be destroyed right and they'll do that even
jerome powell said um a few months ago says we don't says, we don't think we will cause a recession, and we don't think that we will have to cause a recession.
I remember that.
We don't think we have to.
That's the issue that I'm talking about right now.
Yeah, you're right about the election.
I think they're just holding. But as soon as they have some sort of clear picture for
the next two years leading into 2024, I think they're going to raise rates. I think they're
going to pick winners and losers. I think they'll be even more specific and targeted on who they
bail out and what they bail out. But the economy, I think, will be an afterthought. A lot of people that watch the stock market don't understand that. I mean, Venezuela had a massive stock market rally
while people were trying to eat the zoo animals and stuff like there wasn't any there wasn't any
food or literally there wasn't any in the currency was in free fall. But the stock market's doing
great. That reminds me a lot of the financial networks in this country where I'm watching things going.
But you're not talking about the fundamental problem of look at our debt.
Look at the look at the companies that we prop up, that we prop up and we and we worship and they don't make a profit.
I mean, this isn't this isn't Gordon Gekko. This isn't Wall Street. This isn't 1987. This is something different.
Yeah. And, you know, you bring to mind a piece I got to write last week for MRC TV.
I just called it up, Tony. It was October 10th. So it was a week ago today. So I was working on it Sunday night and it came out Monday morning last week. It's about how the Federal Reserve has, and it sort of quietly released this press
release about, to sort of be redundant, about how it's working with six major U.S.-based banks
to start to put together the terminology for what they're calling financial risks caused by climate change.
And again, it's like, yeah, so it's like the RGGI. It's like the Regional Greenhouse Gas
Initiative. There is no risk. And I played the video last week that I did for this.
There is no risk in the real free market, because if there were a risk, you would see it being manifest in insurance policies for people who live on coastlines. a quarter mile or an eighth of a mile of a coast because they know that that wouldn't last because
of course the the oceans are going to rise right you wouldn't see obama and his wife buying their
house in martha's vineyard because it's too much of a liability so all these things we're not seeing
them in the real market they're creating them in the fake market. And so the banks are Bank of America, Citigroup,
Bank of America, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, and Wells Fargo,
all of which have been bailed out at various times by the federal government for various reasons.
And I think it's Bank of America also purchased Merrill Lynch, which got bailed out by the federal government.
And now, as I mentioned last time we chatted, I think the Federal Reserve under Trump's wonderful and highly applauded by Trump.
I'm being sarcastic, obviously. CARES Act of early 2020, again, massively unconstitutional.
They have given the Federal Reserve the ability to reasons, give these people money regardless of how
productive they are, regardless of what kind of corporation they are.
It could be a Solyndra and it's failing.
It's doing terribly.
It could be a pharmaceutical company that has poisoned millions of people and they'll
put the money into it.
So they're creating their own.
They already had it, but now they're getting their tentacles even further into creating their own fascist economy that will be circling itself and feeding itself as we try to get the scraps off of it.
And they're going to, as this story says, they're going to be creating their climate credit terminology. They're going to be saying, well, this is state governors who are opposing this sort of thing from BlackRock.
Seeing what I'm seeing just over the past couple of weeks makes me wonder how much more there is.
I mean, there there's got to be trillions and trillions of dollars behind ESG right now. Massive. I mean, and this, I think, is another example of where conservatives
or people that are semi-understanding of what's going on will make a mistake, and they'll think
it's the private sector when it's really government that's controlling ESG. It's not the other way
around. I mean, the government is the banks, but, you know, and it's that really murky,
strange merger that that fascistic system. But I think that, again, big tech censors,
because the government tells them to. I think ESG is really an extension of global government.
It's extension of the power structures or what you would call the deep state or David Knight
calls the dark state. The dark state is the banks. the banks control ESG. And there's going to be people
pushing back against it, like just like we've pushed back against big tech censorship. But
until you understand that in and of itself, it's the government, right? I know. I mean,
I don't know what you think about that analysis, Gard, but I believe it's 100% the policymakers inside the deep state in conjunction with the banks and know, the interests play off each other. And I think that
that system has become more and more refined since the days of Alexander Hamilton, since the days of
Henry Clay and their favoritism, and then going through Roosevelt, who was a master at this sort
of corruption. And then it just got worse and worse and worse over time. I think that that
definitely is the case. It's the government,
the source of the problem is the government. And, you know, it goes to that question that,
you know, you and I discussed and David and I have discussed early on about
the creation of corporations and, you know, even Marsh v. Alabama and things like that. If we are looking at government granting corporate status, then we're looking
at government regulating corporations, then we've got to accept that there's going to be that
feedback loop. And we see the rise of these corporations and their influence in Washington, D.C. And, you know, a lot of the leftists looked at looked at my position as a free marketeer from their position as they opposed capitalism,
thinking that capitalism was free markets when capitalism nowadays is understood by economists as really being a term used to
apply to mercantilism. And many people are no longer, free marketeers are no longer using the
term capitalism to just describe a free market because it's become so tarnished with this
public-private partnership, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours phenomenon that I don't think it
can be rectified. So the source of the problem is the state. And we can get into philosophical
questions as to whether or not that's ever fixable or avoidable. But at least if you've got the U.S. Constitution, you can remind people of what the
rules are supposed to be. And the rules, if they went by them, would eliminate so much of this
back and forth from the government playing favorites and the central banking problem that
we've got. I 100% agree with you. I'm going to read just a little bit this last
part of the article that features Catherine Austin Fitz because it sums up a lot of what I talk about.
She says, it's a global government re-engineering. It's 100% power politics and it's war. She's
talking about the Federal Reserve and the reserve currency status that they're defending. She says,
in short, the Fed will defend the dollar and the world reserve currency status,
no matter how hard the stock market crashes,
no matter how much the economy crashes,
no matter how much the bond market crashes,
and no matter how much the housing market crashes.
In short,
she says,
stop helping them.
Don't bank at the big banks.
Use cash whenever you can and pray. In short, she says, stop helping them. Don't bank at the big banks.
Use cash whenever you can and pray.
This is the first and foremost, a spiritual war.
A prayer is the best navigation tool possible.
With this level of uncertainty and change, there is no way,
there is no way and there's not enough experts to help you.
You have to focus on what is important. You have to decide, are you here to
be free or are you here to be a slave? There is no more middle of the road. There are two sides.
One leads to freedom and one leads to slavery. You have to choose. That's Catherine Austin Fitz.
And that's not mincing words there. This is such a, I find myself, it's just a strange time. And you and I get to broadcast on these type of platforms and filling in it all for all intents and purposes fighting back with our information
and our research against what i believe is this satanic spiritual system of enslavement
and the subject matter that we're covering uh is it's just again it's just um it's surreal
that we're doing this in this way and in real time, Gard. I mean, I don't know how you feel about it, but I find myself, I'm like,
how did I get into the business that I'm in?
Where I'm in, I mean, because it's,
now I'm known as the gold guy.
I mean, I'm the guy that, I'm the precious metals guy.
How did that happen?
I mean, it happened in a,
it wasn't like a long period of time.
It was like, I chose this.
I got it.
I fused it with media.
And then all of a sudden I'm sitting here with you and we're talking about these and the things that I was talking about.
People thought I was nuts, you know, back in 2018, 2019.
And now that's all happening.
It's happening in real time.
And I don't know.
I'm definitely not happy about it.
I'd rather just be wrong. But, you know, we're talking about war. We're talking about the financial shakeup. But she's 1000 percent correct. They don't care what they destroy so long as they keep their Babylonian money magic, which is really what it is. It's, it's, you know, there was, um,
a lot of research on the roots of the federal reserve, which I've read about for a long time, you know, and I've even talked to people about James Perloff about how I thought it was economic
alchemy. Like they figured out, they finally figured out the philosopher's stone, like where
they could, you know, that was the, um, the old myth that the alchemists were looking for, how to turn base metals into gold.
That's not really what it was, but they found it.
They found this way to create value out of nothing, which is really, in my mind, a ritual of some sort.
Everything that we talk about links back to it.
It's super interesting, and I'm really glad I have you to to dissect this with a quick break and make sure we advertise the great David Knight show once again and where you can go to to find the products that David Knight mug, the David Knight shirts, pins, hats, cups, all that good stuff.
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This is the David Knight Show, and we're going to have phone lines open for the last 30 minutes of the show.
It's 888-770-1776, 888-770-1776.
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Gart, while we're waiting for a possible call, this caught my attention.
We'll kind of leave some of the, I had one article talks about Macron and not wanting to be in a nuclear fire.
I mean, I guess he's he's got some self-preservation issues over there in France.
That's good for him. But this was something I found.
Hold on. We've got a call coming in. So let me take this and then I'll come back.
There's there's something about the
Roger Stone issue I wanted to ask you
about. So hold on. Let's take this call and then we'll go
to that.
All right, caller, you're on the air with
Gardner Goldsmith and myself.
Welcome to David Knight Show.
Oh, hi.
I'm Tony Engard.
Another great show, as I expected.
This is Johnny in Denmark
and I just wanted to
finish up
on the last two points
that I was making on Friday
I found in practice
that providing people with
acronyms is a
good way if the acronyms
are good enough to get them alerted and overcoming their
denial about the scale of things. So I'll just give you two, and those are the last two points.
And I have one question at the end. And the two that I have are Fauci famously, now famously,
at least the David Nightshall fans, saying that things should be
disruptive, iterative,
and done from the inside. My acronym,
my initials for that is
DIE, which is really easy to remember.
Disruptive, iterative, and esoteric.
The second one,
my fourth point, is
what the
totality
of the main points, the main objectives of the COVID-19 hoax are.
And my initialism for that is SGM Sickles. Sickles is really easy to remember. SGM
is easy to remember once you realize that GM is an initialism for general manager and also grandmaster, and SGM for super general
manager and super grandmaster. And the meaning of it is the S is for, the first S is for sickening,
the GM is for genetic manipulation, the third one is, the second S is for sterilization.
The I is for impoverishment.
The C is for control.
The K is for killing.
The O is for oppression.
And the final S, which actually I improved the initialism, is for stupefaction, otherwise known as dumbing down. And the nice thing about it is it not only encapsulates it, it prevents people from losing perspective by focusing on some strict subset of those things.
What's your question?
Very important.
What's your question, brother? general for the David Knight listening audience is to give details about the show.
You said he does have a show.
I was ecstatic to hear about it, what kind of show it is, what time it's on,
and what the frequency is, daily, daily plus, weekly, semi-weekly or whatever.
All right.
I'll let Gard answer that, and we'll let you go, really. Thanks for the call. Go ahead. All right. I'll let Gard answer that. We'll let you go.
Thanks for the call.
Go ahead.
All right.
Well, John, great to hear from you, man.
Yeah.
So we have plans coming up for a show, John.
And thanks.
I mean, it's a great opportunity to be able to talk about that.
I'm planning on – so right now I do videos for MRCTV and I do my own videos for Liberty Conspiracy.
And people can find those at the Bitchute, Odyssey and Rumble Liberty Conspiracy channels.
And again, there's a Liberty Conspiracy on YouTube, but we haven't updated it yet because of the political problems.
That's such a minefield.
But and then on my Substack, I'm also posting those videos at the Gardner Goldsmith Substack. But very soon, John, we do have plans for an audio program, which most likely will be streaming six o'clock Monday through Thursday, probably at least Monday through Thursday for an hour and a half, 6 p.m.
And that's my plan. And we're going to do audio and video, uh, so people can get, uh, audio podcasts, stream it, uh, whatever. And, uh, you know, through Tony's, uh, great, uh, tutelage and his great efforts, uh, with Billy Ray Valentine and a number of other folks, Don Jeffries, Charlie Robinson, and other great people. We're going to have a wide assortment of people who will be broadcasting on a large network of folks who are liberty-minded people. So that's something that I have planned.
And then I'm also going to be opening up a YouTube channel called Former Star Trek Writer Fellow,
which is going to be about quality entertainment and things like that. I used to do a radio program
here in New Hampshire, and that might be
something that's sort of like a latent memory for some people. And maybe in conversation,
you might've heard about that, but that, that ended a while back. I used to be on after Rush
Limbaugh on the AM, the kind of the big AM station in Manchester, New Hampshire, and I would come on and do my thing. So that was a radio
station called AM610WGIR. So that program ended a while back and then I started doing podcasting
and then I just stopped doing the podcasting stuff. You got into the teaching and everything.
And now it seems like podcasting is coming back to me and streaming is definitely a great
opportunity. So thanks, John. And we'll let you know all the plans and everything. But right now, it seems like podcasting is coming back to me and streaming is definitely a great opportunity so
thanks john and we'll let you know all the plans and everything but right now if you want to see
the videos uh you know bit shoot rumble odyssey and uh substack yeah guard was recently on the
radio stations that i have a spot on so you're back on radio again de facto my friend when you
filled in for me last uh last oh yeah that's right you were on you were on a
couple of different radio stations but you know what was wild tony is i have to say somebody was
in a restaurant in denver colorado when i was podcasting like back in 2007 or 2008 they said
they walked into the bathroom and i'm in new hampshire they walked in the bathroom and my podcast was playing over the stereo system in the
bathroom. The guy who ran the restaurant had like, and you had to download the podcast and put them
on something. So he literally was like putting it into the bathroom. I don't know. Maybe that's a
bad sign, but. Captive audience. Yeah, really.
Captive audience. Let's talk a little bit more on the periphery of politics.
I find this subject matter interesting, not quite fascinating.
It's not really that important, but there's something to it.
And I wanted to get your take on it, especially since I've watched this unfold, this saga of Roger Stone.
And this is Zero Hedge.
Watch.
Bitter Roger Stone blasts Trump, says run again and you'll get effing brains beat in.
Apparently, myth that President Trump would not grant him a second pardon to protect him from January 6th repercussions, even though President Trump had already
commuted his three-year prison sentence and issued Stone a full pardon for his
previous misadventures. An irate Roger Stone is caught on tape
raging against the former president, his daughter Ivanka, and husband
Jared Kushner. Stone's rants are captured in footage
obtained by the Daily Beast, which is,
this is a weird thing. I'm not going to play the video, but it says it's unclear whom he was
speaking to. One video shows Stone shouting about Trump's daughter and son-in-law while traveling
in a car, calling Ivanka an abortionistist and it's a b-word and lambasting
Kushner says Jared Kushner has a 70 IQ adding that he's coming to Miami we will eject him from Miami
very quickly he will be leaving very quickly very quickly I don't know what what do you make of this
uh because I mean Stone has we've heard this before.
Some of these audios is, this audio is not new, that they're dropping.
Like Steve Bannon the other day, this became headlines, but David's been playing it for a long time about how he was saying that Trump's just going to declare victory.
It doesn't matter if he's behind or not.
He's going to declare, I'm the king and we win.
And that's our strategy is basically saying we we don't recognize anything with the election.
That's Steve Bannon.
Then you get somebody like Roger Stone.
And it's interesting, you know, when Roger Stone was arrested.
I had my radio show in San Antonio.
I still do.
I still have one slot a week, but I had a daily show at the time.
I followed Mark Levin on Freedom 1160.
And I thought this is one of the biggest stories of my time at that. lot a week but i had a daily show at the time i followed mark levin on freedom 1160 and i thought
this is one of the biggest stories in my time at that i mean in it's 2019 and i thought this look
at this raid look how many people they used to go in and and you know they had water support and air
support and they had tipped off cnn and clearly the cnn was tipped off to be there to film it for
the perp walk i mean just so over the top and i I'm like, Hey, I'm, you know, this is, uh,
and I have been on info wars, but I was like, I'm going to donate just at Roger Stone's campaign or
his website, all this. I was behind the, like helping him. And, um, I've just got so many,
it's such a weird thing after stop the steal. And you can clearly see that he's,
he said this before, this isn't the first time there's been leaked audio about you're going to get your brains beat in.
Or he's I think he said and I don't I can't quote me on this because I've I can't confirm it right this minute.
But he's also said that Trump was bad for politics, bad for, you know, the the election system itself.
And then he but he goes back full circle and says, oh, look, I'm back again. I'm to give people the benefit of the doubt, obviously.
And you say, well, something might have been taken out of context.
I would hear the Steve Bannon stuff and I would say to myself, well, maybe Steve Bannon was people about how they suspect that there is some
sort of fraud going on in the vote, and we're coming in a few sentences in, and it sounds like
now this is our strategy, and we haven't heard the full context. But then there's another side
of it, which is maybe this was done intentionally by Roger Stone. Maybe this
information was put out there in the classic Clinton-esque mode, triangulate, and make it
look like he stands opposed to Trump and he's angry at Trump. And it's so difficult to find
out about the truth here, to sort of dig into the truth in this Machiavellian world. And these guys have
been at this sort of stuff for decades, working these campaigns and, you know, putting out,
you know, verbal false flags and just crazy stuff. I honestly, I can't tell, you know,
it looks to me like people are starting to try to focus on Ron DeSantis as being the Republican nominee.
I think that they recognize that if they were to pick DeSantis, they would probably be able to diffuse a lot of the criticism that has been directed at Trump for a little while.
They'll be able to do it. But I
think regardless of who they pick, it doesn't even matter. They could pick Chris Rock, you know,
and people will find a way to accuse Chris Rock of being a traitor to his race, you know,
all these different types of things.
So DeSantis will be painted with all sorts of broad brush accusations the way Trump was.
And, you know, most of the stuff other than the moral problems that I found with Trump
and the lack of constitutional consistency and things like that and the lack of economic understanding on a central banking level and things like that.
Much of what they accused Trump of being a racist and all that stuff was bogus.
You know, it was all done to set things up.
So I don't know. I just don't know how to perceive the this this current release of information from Roger Stone.
And I don't know how to assess Roger Stone's personality either.
You know, anybody who's, as you say, anybody who's got a tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back.
I just.
Well, in the Rockfin chat,
somebody says,
Tony got conned into giving Roger Stone money with a question mark.
Well,
first of all,
yeah.
I mean,
I was a guest host on info wars and this is,
this is 2019.
I don't have the ability of second sight to see into the future,
like two or three years.
I don't,
I'm not,
I don't,
I'm not a seer.
I'm not a prophet.
I'm not a sage. I'm just a, I'm just a man. So with that, at the time I don't, I'm not, I don't, I'm not a seer. Uh, I'm not a prophet. I'm not a sage. I'm just a,
I'm just a man. So with that, at the time I saw a, a massive police overreach, I saw CNN being
tipped off, uh, all, all the rest. I mean, I mean, you can say I got conned into voting for Trump.
I got conned. I guess I got conned into a bunch of stuff. I couldn't see into the future. Uh,
I do, I do my best to give analysis, but
yeah. Sorry, your hosts that do alternative media, we're not completely perfect right down the line
knowing everything that's going to happen and making it. All you can do is judge somebody by
after the information has come out, what do you do then, right? It's kind of like after 2020,
do I go and rally and do everything for Trump? Do I give him money? Do I help him? Do I write articles for him?
Like I did in 2016? The answer is no. And you know, again,
I lost a lot of opportunities to be on media because I do that.
It makes people mad when I criticize Trump, I'll do it.
I'll do it in spite of that. Right. Um, but yeah,
it's interesting when I say,
and I want to read some of these quotes from Stone.
He says, I'm done with this president. I'm going to go public supporting impeachment. I have no choice. He has to go. He has to go. Run again and you get your effing brains beating.
This is Roger Stone. Well, I don't know. And I saw that footage where he goes and hugs Trump and then says something derogatory about DeSantis. that would be somewhat effective, I believe, against the Operation Dark Winter Part 2,
the reckoning that they've been doing for the last three years.
And, I mean, he's the only one that the governor, I mean, Greg Abbott's just like,
well, what's DeSantis doing?
And they're like, well, we'll do a diet version of that.
We'll do a cheap knockoff of whatever that is.
And Greg Abbott, clearly a neocon, but I don't know. This is just a strange time
for politics. That's why I don't want to be involved in it at all. And I mean, it doesn't
make any sense, but you know, you go back to the thing with the election too, is so divisive because
people want to talk about that still. And I'm like, well know and i said this i know it's even for effect but i i don't really care i mean the who's president
unless it's a really stark choice you know obviously if it was ron desantis over you know
kamala harris i'd probably be okay with a ron desantis but i don't know for sure right i don't
know is he going to march us into war is he he going to be the Republican president that calms down the vote at the grassroots conservatives so we can get a central bank digital currency?
As I've been predicting, if you want to know a prediction, I'm predicting see what your thoughts are on this. Cause I, you know, again, the, these operatives and some of the things that we've seen around Bannon and
now they've got the, are you familiar with the, what they're doing with the reawaken America deal
and Michael Flynn and kind of the religious aspect of it? Yeah. Not a fan of that. Not a fan of that. You know, it reminds me a lot of what I've seen in the past with various groups that are making a lot of money, first of all, off of very dedicated Christian Protestant Americans, uh, born again in particular. And, um, you know,
when David plays Flynn and that weird, you know, throwback clip from that woman,
um, it's, that's disturbing, uh, going back and forth. And if people aren't familiar with it, uh, if they're, you know, new to the show, maybe
David will play it again, but it's this woman from probably the late eighties, you know,
she's got the civil shepherd, uh, you know, uh, quarterback, uh, jacket pads in her, in
her dress, you know, like shoulder pads out to here.
And she's going through and she's up on a stage
somewhere evangelizing about something, but it's not Christian. It's this weird,
deceptive mixture of semi-Christian terminology with a sort of Gaia, theosophy
combination. It's very cosmic.
And this is one of the problems that I found when I would look at like,
you know,
like Alex Jones does this in a way sometimes too,
rather than just speaking about God and Christ and so on.
He talks about,
you know,
we're part of the cosmic thing.
It's like,
well,
dude,
you know,
the cause cosmos was created by God.
That's the cosmos doesn't bring you energy. It's not, you're not part of some energy source of the
cosmos. You've got a direct link to Christ. He was the personification of God on earth. You can talk
to Christ and you're all set. Okay. Deal with it.
So this, this Flynn stuff I don't vote, but I think to myself, what would happen if that group of people had a fairly decent candidate who could be put up there and they could stop the Democrats? Would I
be relatively better off or relatively less worse off? Right. I mean, that's always what it comes
down to. And that's where
libertarians, unfortunately, every time the election cycle comes around, you see these
people who've been so dissatisfied with the Republican Party and in some cases, anti-war
Democrats, they'll say, well, I got to decide, so I'll go back. You know, it's the battered
spouse syndrome. Well, I don't have any other place to live. So here I am, you know,
it's true. It's a lesser of two evils is still evil. And yeah,
we're watching this. And again, I even asked the question, I mean,
if I was presented with the DeSantis, I'd be probably, I mean,
am I going to go out and campaign for him? Am I going to get excited about it? Am I going to write articles? No, I'm done with that. I mean, am I going to go out and campaign for him? Am I going to get excited about it?
Am I going to write an article?
No, I'm done with that.
I mean, in order for me to be involved in politics again,
it has to be grassroots, on the ground, local level,
and or it has to be something that's completely outside of the party system.
I'm not getting involved in that anymore.
I get a call twice a day from the RNC.
Oh, yeah. I have blocked their their number and i'm not exaggerating at least a hundred times so that means every time i
block that number they find a new number to call me from to ask me for money like it's just insane
man uh well i've got it's like an old girlfriend showing up at your window at two in the morning.
Let me in. Like, no, go away.
Love me. And that's what we're watching is the them just constantly needing your attention and your money.
And it's just, you know, you guys, it's like if you solve the problems, you wouldn't be able to run on the things that, you know, we would take away your, your ability to raise funds. It's like the federal reserve. If we pay off the debt, right. In order
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um but your voice i can imagine coming on after Mark. Mark Levin. Oh, I know.
People must have been like, oh, what a relief. Listen to this guy. Oh, nice.
He's just yelling at callers.
It was funny because when I would, this was back when, wow, what a quaint time.
We were only talking about $25 trillion in debt.
And we were only, it was only like, it it was we're going to do about the Iranians, you know, and they're going to they're going to kill us all.
And, you know, we got to we got to bomb them.
And then, you know, something would happen.
And with that in that mind, and I would get on the air and then the calls would just stop like they wouldn't know.
They no one wanted to call and talk to me about foreign policy.
I just know because, one, I'm opposing the current actions and I'm a combat vet.
And I happen to know a thing or two about the history of foreign policy and engagement.
So it never is. If I went anti-war, it was never any calls.
But, you know, pretty much everything else, the phone.
Lines would light uh four left um what uh what did you want to go over before we close out the show my friend uh well uh let's see yeah quick overview on a couple things uh maybe that i've been looking at. So as I mentioned, the MRCTV folks allowed me to write on that story about the four red states
withdrawing their $1 billion in government investments from BlackRock, which I think is
a big deal. And it's the flip side to that New York City comptroller who wanted to make sure
that the credit card companies would attach their purchase codes to gun purchases.
But also there's a bill that's going to be introduced in New Jersey today that will mandate insurance for gun owners.
And I didn't even realize. Yeah, I wrote three pieces yesterday and they're all out this morning at MRC and MRC TV.
And they are going to be responding to the Bruin decision from June from the Supreme Court, where, of course, the Supreme Court halfheartedly said, well, the right to keep and bear arms not only is an individual right, but it extends beyond the home.
But and of course, they say you can put caveats on the right to keep and bear arms not only is an individual right, but it extends beyond the home.
But, and of course, they say you can put caveats on the right.
Well, then it's not a right.
If the government can attenuate it, it's not a right.
That's the point about rights.
It goes back to ancient German.
It's old German and old English.
It has to do with right-handedness and what they thought was correct.
And so this is going to be introduced today in the New Jersey House. They want to mandate insurance and they have a giant list of places where you can't bring
guns. And I'll be shooting a video on that coming up today. And by the way, I know you mentioned
new videos. I'll be shooting these videos. I usually shoot the videos, many of the videos on Monday mornings, and then the editors
work on them down in Washington. And so I'll be shooting them after the program today. So might
not come out until either tonight or tomorrow for one of these stories. And then this one is
very disappointing. There was a federal court in California that has dismissed John Stossel's
lawsuit against Facebook. And here we go to something that David has discussed, as you know,
many times. Tony, this is a story that Stossel was suing Facebook because they labeled two of
his videos either misleading or false, containing misleading or false information.
So he sued them for defamation.
And this is where Facebook in court documents openly said, well, you know, our fact checkers,
which, by the way, come from things like the Poynter Institute, hardcore left-wing, those are actually opinions.
So as I said, well, does that mean that we can post on Facebook and stuff that says it's factual?
We can just say that those are our opinions as well, and now you can't pull our stuff down.
So there's a lot involved with that. I'll probably shoot a video on that one as well,
because that has a lot to do with Section 230 of the 1996 Telecommunications Decency Act,
and what the federal government can do regarding the court system between the state courts and the Supreme Court. And it has, through Section 230,
it has blocked liability suits against so-called internet curators like Facebook and so on,
social platforms, as Meta now calls itself, as long as they edit in good faith, and that's left up to
the government. So in this case, the government said, oh yeah, even though you claimed you were
fact-checking, and then you claimed it was just opinion, we think that's in good faith. So they
dismissed John Stossel's suit. So that's amazing. So on one side, you've got Alex Jones. The judge
allows the case to go into that court for defamation,
which I don't think should have been allowed in the court in the first place.
And he's got this,
you know,
crazy settlement thing.
Who knows?
You know,
David can talk about that stuff.
But then on the other side,
you've got Stossel with something very clear that looks like defamation and
that's not being allowed.
Well,
unbelievable.
We're about to close out.
I've got the tab open at least.
I think so for the daily outro.
It's trying. It's circling.
We might not even be able to do the daily
outro music. Let's see if it'll play.
Almost.
It's trying, Gar.
This is Mike. Jason Barker's going to
have to build my computer, it appears,
in real time. We've got about four or five seconds
left.
I'm Tony Arterberg.
Good night, show.
We'll be live tomorrow.
Join us, ladies and gentlemen.
Take care of each other.
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