The David Knight Show - 18Oct22 Boston Lab Creates Covid Strain with 80% Kill Rate?

Episode Date: October 18, 2022

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He was an amazing, amazing man. And I was able to get some personal contact with him over the years. So really, really good person. Got a lot to get into and I've changed things up a little bit. Let's see. I would just want to say, Mark, thank you for joining us. Harps, thank you for joining us in the Rockfin chat. Let's see. Greg, thank you, Greg, for joining us. Choir Boy, thank you very much, Choir Boy. And by the way, my voice, I've been screaming about the emergency for so long. So long. That must be the story. If you're not familiar with my work, hey, that's cool. Nah, I guess this is my opportunity. I contract to do stories for them and videos for them. And in fact, there's a slew of videos that should be coming out very soon and articles, a couple of which I'll be referring to, which I'll be referring today on the program. And I also have my own sub stack and the sub stack is Gardner Goldsmith. And you can find the Liberty Conspiracy material that I've started once more doing just over the past summer or so. We're ramping that up again. That is at BitChute, Odyssey and Rumble under Liberty Conspiracy.

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Texas for Travis's ceremonial wedding and congratulations to Travis I mentioned yesterday just briefly and sort of didn't pay off the comment. I switched over to a new phone and I had texted Travis Saturday morning because I knew everything was ramping up for the big day. And curiously enough, I'm just going to turn the light down here on this. Curiously enough, he wrote back to me, but I did not receive the text until like, I don't even know when, like Monday morning. And I felt bad. And it was just the tech. Maybe I wasn't using the tech writer. I have to go to the Verizon store and get that double checked. But there was a series of texts that I did not receive. And I

was a little bit frustrated and worried about it. So, Travis, congratulations. And to the whole Knight family, congratulations. And again, folks, as you know, David, departing InfoWars, just they did this all themselves. I mean, literally in their garage, starting using their phone during that time period when Texas, most of Texas was out of power. You know, the windmills all froze up with their dumb approach to power down on the grid down in Texas and a number of other states.

It's all part of a multi-state grid down there, and it's an absolute disaster. And he's done it all on his own with the help of you. And I'm just really happy to be here. So with those introductions aside, let me get started with what I had planned Saturday. I know Rhonda, by the way, Rhonda contacted me on Twitter and had said, you know, I was looking forward to the show, Emmy Moore as well. And Saturday we just weren't able to do it because of tech problems. I wasn't able to get through. I was all set.

But what I had done was I had prepared some items for you all. And so I want to switch over to my screen and hopefully you won't mind if we come up with the infinity screen or if Tony's back there, you can switch it, switch it over. But I'm going to I'm going to switch over to my screen so you can see what I was what I was preparing. So we'll get the infinity screen for just a second, and then we're going to roll with a number of these stories. All right. So there we go. Now, in fact, I'll make it even bigger just so you can see better. So this is me. I'm going to switch out and get back to things here. So, okay. So what I had prepared for Saturday was these were some of the stories that I had prepared. And I'm going to blow this up a little bit and detach this so that you can actually see what I had put together.

Some of these stories already, as you know, have been covered. So we've got this story coming out of France, where these climate maniacs threw, I think it was some sort of squash soup, onto paintings in the Louvre. Just ridiculous. Then we had this story out of the European Parliament when this Dutch member of the European Parliament asked the international. She's the president for international relations for Pfizer, because Bourla wouldn't show up. So this woman, Janine Small, came over and just lightheartedly laughed when he asked her

if Pfizer knew whether or not their product would prevent transmission. And she chuckled about it. So as you know, you probably have seen this. And we'll get right over there. All right, here we go. I'll do the question around, did we know about stopping humanization before it entered the market? No. Unbelievable. And that again, I left that in there because that's Clayton Morris of Redacted. And I wanted to give them a plug Saturday night. So I'm just going to scroll through some of the things that I prepared for you.

There's Eva Vlardender Broek with Tucker Carlson. She's from Holland. And I was going to be linking in a lot of the combination of the speech controls over the Cowabunga 19 and some of the information that you and I knew early on, I was suppressed in many ways, as many of the other people at MRCTV were suppressed. We had our information pushed down even prior to the virus on the Google blacklist. But then all hell broke loose as we got pushed off of Facebook for a while. Our videos were purged from YouTube at MRCTV. I personally was taken off of Facebook for three months and it all had to do with the virus. And now they're shifting it over to as the New Zealand prime minister discussed, how can we fight climate change when, in her eyes, we ne'er-do-wells, we troglodytes actually can share information,

and they can't control the narrative. Because, of course, their narrative, if you look into it, doesn't support itself, because they're using flimsy data, they're using manipulated data. You can look at Climate Gate 1 and 2 out of the University of using manipulated data. You can look at Climate Gate 1 and 2 out of the University of East Anglia. You can look at the hockey stick graph of Michael Mann. You can look at, as I've mentioned before, the way that the temperature readers have been moved over to airport tarmacs, the way that the algorithms weren't adjusted after the fall of the Soviet Union to account for the loss of cold weather Siberian weather stations. So now they're getting into the nitrogen controls. And in Holland, there have been all sorts of protests, as you know. And so this is some of the material I was

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what's his name, Vanderlaan, the head of the EU, who threatened Italy saying that they have ways if the Italians want to pull away from the EU too much. And a number of other things as we go into this.

Here is some of what was going on in Holland, and the Dutch government has been just unbelievable. They want to seize farms from 17,000 farmers, and they want to destroy cattle. So these are some of the stories that I was going to cover Saturday. But what I want to do is get into something else. And that is going to be at the end of the video presentation. We're going to talk about, by the way, we're going to talk about what NATO is doing in Ukraine. As a person who's been captured has testified that there are American boots on the ground training Ukrainians. And we see that Ukraine sent rockets into Russia. Times is depicting the Russian hit on, I mean, the way that the Donbass regions that voted to go with Russia, the way that the New York Times is depicting those. But I want to turn now over to Anthony Fauci on ABC. I want to give you this quick introduction,

and then I want to go with my first news story, which is the breaking story, which has changed the complexion of the program for this morning in this first hour. The second hour, we'll be speaking with James Bovard at 10 o'clock about Julian Assange. And then at 1030, we'll be speaking with Eric Peters of epautos.com. And then at 11, we'll be joined by the great Tony Arteburn. And remember, DavidKnight.Gold. DavidKnight.Gold is a great way for you to get involved, support the show, and get in touch with Tony at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange just outside of Branson because it is a very valuable move.

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Do you think maybe closing the schools was a mistake? In so many states and so many localities to see schools closed as long as they were. I think in some cases, I don't want to use the word mistake, John, because if I do, it gets taken out of the context that you're asking me the question on it. Unbelievable. All right, right off the bat. Well, let me reframe the question for you and tell you your context, John. Let me explain. I don't want to use the word mistake, see, because, okay. And then get the way that he massages this. And this goes right back to the way that this guy has flip-flopped all his life. Read the book, The Real Anthony Fauci. And by the way, I believe it's today,

the RFK Jr. Children's Health Defense documentary, which is based on the real Anthony Fauci book, is out. So if you go to the Children's Health Defense website, you can watch it. And I'm sure it's going to be everywhere. I cannot wait. I wish I could get some of the folks behind that on a program sometime. It would be just terrific. Great work, terrific book. Too high a price. Yeah, I would say that what we should realize and have realized that there will be deleterious collateral consequences. any sort of brain cells left in their head that haven't been burned out by pop media over the course of their lives, might recognize that rather than watching Lizzo shake her rump, they might want to pay attention to these terms. Collateral. Okay. This is the man who just recently said that there were no long term problems from lockdowns.

Remember that? Yeah, remember that? And of course, then he denied claiming that America should be locked down. So he's been in every possible convenient position for himself here, right? When you do something like that, this idea that this virus doesn't afflict children is not so. Really? This idea that the virus doesn't afflict children is not so. Well, that's curious because you see how he's choosing his words very carefully. It can afflict children. The cold can afflict children, right? The question is whether it's serious and whether they're going to pass on the virus, both of which the odds are zero, as the CDC itself, and the CDC is unconstitutional, has stated the survivability rate for all the adult quintiles

is above 96% when you average it out. There is no reason for anyone, unless he or she is at very, very high risk to be taking this untested mRNA gene vector injection. Absolutely no reason. We've lost close to 1,500 kids. And that number, we've lost close to 1,500 kids. Now, Jonathan Karl, if he had any sense of journalistic integrity, could say, really, how do you know that, Mr. Fauci? Upon what numbers is that based, Mr. Fauci? And Mr. Fauci could say, well, they're the numbers that the CDC collected. Oh, you mean the numbers that as Deborah Birx admitted in spring of 2020 in the White House, are based on case numbers, first of all, which at that time and for many months afterwards were based on the high cycle threshold for a test that was not designed to be a diagnostic tool on its own. And then the government policy was that they were subsidizing hospitals that claimed that deaths with this diagnosis,

which is not an appropriate diagnosis, the PCR test, with a positive PCR test, were deaths from COVID-19. There is no human being on the planet Earth, and there will never be a human being on the planet Earth who can claim any solid number of the number of deaths associated due to COVID-19. And Mr. Science is facing Jonathan Karl, who earns what? What do you think his six-figure salary is? I haven't looked it up. He's certainly not earning it here.

That's for sure. Right, guys? But much less than the older population, obviously. Oh, of course. But you shouldn't discount that it does afflict children. So it isn't without consequences. If you go back, and I ask anybody to go back over the number of times that I've said we've got to do everything we can to keep the schools open. No one plays that clip. Interesting. Notice how he said the number of times that I've said we've got to keep schools open.

Then he says no one plays that clip. That's interesting. There's a differential there, isn't there and of course that's because throughout most of this he was pushing as was deborah burke's for lockdowns and we'll play you some video of that they always come back and say fauci was responsible for closing schools i had nothing to do i mean let's get down to the fact really infectious disease expert dr anthony fauci said sunday that this is from 2020 by the way folks i pulled this last night and grabbed it a u.s lockdown shouldn't be ruled out to slow the spread of the coronavirus oh wait what was that sorry sorry tony i i tony fauci i shouldn't even use the word tony

sorry anthony fauci let me just bring my cursor back here a little bit I Tony Fauci. I shouldn't even use the word Tony. Sorry, Anthony Fauci. Let me just bring my cursor back here a little bit. OK, let's start that again. What was that? It was responsible for closing schools. I had nothing to do. I mean, let's get down to the fact. Infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday that a U.S. lockdown shouldn't be ruled out to slow the spread of the coronavirus. Fauci, part of the Trump administration's coronavirus task force, said on CNN's State of the Union he'd like to see more extreme action taken to reduce public gatherings. Well, I would like to see a dramatic diminution of the personal interaction that we see in restaurants and in bars. Whatever. Yes, whatever. Here, I'm jumping in.

Whatever it takes, takes to do that. That's what I'd like to see. Fauci told NBC's Meet the Press that Americans should be prepared to hunker down significantly more. The U.S. has around 3,000 confirmed cases of the virus. On Saturday, Fauci warned that the U.S. Again, cases, PCR test. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar, and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to €10 if your horse loses on a selected race. That's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing.

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That's Clayton Morris. He works with Natalie Morris. I highly recommend them. They're on live Monday through Thursday on YouTube. They've almost been banned numerous times. I think they're up to like 1.5 million subscribers now. They're phenomenal. They've been doing excellent work covering Ukraine. They've been doing excellent work covering the nitrogen emission crackdowns in various countries like Sri Lanka and Holland. Just awesome. They've had Scott Ritter on numerous times.

They've been covering Fauci. Very, very good. Clayton used to work at Fox. His wife, Natalie, used to work at CBS. And so here's a little bit more about Fauci that they brought up. Getting COVID? He said, absolutely, we need to close these schools. Here he is slamming Ron DeSantis for wanting to keep the schools open.

Watch. If you have a situation in which you don't have a real good control over an outbreak and you allow children to gather together, they likely will get infected. And if they get infected, the likelihood that they will bring the infection home. So that really is a risk. I don't know the situation at all in any detail. And I'm not specifically speaking about Florida. I'm just speaking generically

about what happens when you have infections in the community and you have a congregation of people such as in classrooms that that's a risk is anyone under 25. okay well you know what's crazy too is is he was really the only consultant they were using because there were other people that they had brought in to consult during this and then they they didn't have the same opinion as Fauci, and they were relieved from duty. So he was the one that they were consulting this whole entire time. So anything that happened came from him. Yeah, that's right. And the people who had alternative voices who were seeing, you know, people like Dr. Peter McCullough and others who were actively, I mean, they were talking to Mark Meadows. They were talking to members of the Trump White House about,

and they were invited to the White House. And as soon as, you know, you had the Biden administration come in as well, they were edged out. They were edged out and told to stay away. And the media loved running headlines about every time he said something scary, like if your kids go back, they will get COVID. They will bring it to you. They will spread it to grandma. And they quoted him incessantly. So if he's now, you know, his demeanor here is like, they'll misquote me and say that I never, but they gave him plenty of credit when it, when there were school lockdowns, Fauci said, right. He was in all of the headlines. And he was so pro lockdown. Of course he absolutely

was. In fact, he recently remember when he told us all the reason that we had lockdowns in the first place was simply to frustrate people into getting the vaccine. Remember he told us this? But lockdown has its consequences. You use lockdowns to get people vaccinated so that when you open up, you won't have a surge of infections. Think about the backward logic there. And it doesn't make any sense because we went into lockdown a full seven months before there was a vaccine. Right. There was barely even a talk of a vaccine.

I mean, sure, some say that they had it, you know, in the wings, but that was not in the public knowledge. So we locked down not for that reason, at least from that Friday the 13th, where we all did in March of 2020. And they remember that Friday the 13th, the day of the emergency. Till that summer. Right. And just how devastating it was for businesses and families and just absolutely awful. And we now know it was absolutely the totally wrong move to shove people inside of homes and keep them locked down without airflow and all of that and absolutely made it worse, of course, we now know.

And, you know, again, he says that he didn't think – when he says it locks down, he told us that lockdowns don't hurt children. Remember this, that they don't hurt children. Listen. Sometimes when you do draconian things, it has collateral negative consequences. Wow. He's using the same terminology. Curious. Collateral. You know, it doesn't matter whether somebody is trying to sound sophisticated. When you're a sophist, you're a sophist. And this man is a sophist. He has been all his life. And we're going to get to the big story in just a second. Just like when you shut things down,

even temporarily, it does have deleterious consequences on the economy, on the school children. You know that. Oh, you know that. Did you know that? Because you pretended not to know that at the time. We were not told, hey, you're going to stay inside. Your kids will all fall behind in school. You won't get COVID.

You cool with that? Yeah. Good job, Natalie and Clayton Morris. Now, here's the big story. If you didn't get to see the Daily Mail yet today, this is just unbelievable. Get ready for this one, everybody. Okay, let me grab the story. Here it is. Daily Mail exclusive.

Let me just double check on my... Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we're looking good. Okay. So here it is. Daily Mail exclusive. This is playing with fire. This is right out of Boston. I went to this university. Boston University has been exposed, and they're disputing this now, for operating a level four biohazard viral research gain of function lab in the heart of Boston. You know the Sitco sign Fenway Park? Right near it, within walking distance of Fenway Park. In the heart of Boston. 50 minutes from my house. This is playing with fire. It could spark a lab-generated pandemic. Experts, and again,

I wasn't planning on discussing this. I just heard about this. This is just breaking news. Experts slam Boston Lab where scientists have created a new deadly COVID strain with an 80% kill rate. Now, we take this with a grain of salt, but there are papers that have been released, and we got to take those with grains of salt. So let's go back in time a little bit with this wonderful Anthony Fauci who cares so much. 2014, a ban on gain of function occurs. What happens? Within one year, Francis Collins and Anthony Fauci conspire with the EcoHealth Alliance to move the gain-of-function research that they're doing at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, along with Chinese researchers, to the lab in Wuhan that the United States

government helped build to continue the research on coronavirus gain of function and developing the spike protein. This is all documented. They shift the money through the EcoHealth Alliance and they continue it over there. Then when people call for an investigation into the origins of the coronavirus that they call SARS-CoV-2, the World Health Organization funded by the UN, funded by the United States, assigns whom to investigate? The very people from the EcoHealth Alliance who were involved in the research. And they say, well, we think it probably came out of this market here, even though there aren't bats like that here. Totally wiped their hands from it. Unbelievable. Here's this story. Researchers added Omicron spike protein to the original Wuhan COVID strain. Omicron spike is

highly mutated, which made it the most infectious virus ever. Eight in 10 mice infected with the lab created strain died in a Boston University lab. Now, this morning on a talk show out of Boston, a man who claimed that he works at that lab says, oh, you can get in and out of that lab, no problem. All you need is a dolly and some empty boxes. He says, I've been in and out of there all the time. They had a lab leak there already one time. People got sick. Boston University scientists were today condemned for playing with fire after it emerged that they had created a lethal new COVID strain in a laboratory. DailyMail.com revealed the team had made a hybrid virus combining Omicron and the original Wuhan strain that killed 80% of mice in a study.

The revelation exposes how dangerous virus manipulation research continues to go on even in the U.S. despite fears similar practices may have started the pandemic. Professor Shmuel Shapira, a leading scientist in the Israel government, Israeli government, said this should be totally forbidden. It's playing with fire. Gain-of-function research, when viruses are purposefully manipulated to be more infectious or deadly, is thought to be at the center of COVID's origin. A Chinese laboratory located just miles from the first cluster of cases carried out similar research on bat coronaviruses. Bats that were not native to that area,

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Actually, it was supposed to be since 2014. 2017, that's... Obama, it was basically a fraud anyway. Obama must have known what was going on. I think he just gave... It was just a front probably

from Obama. Dr. Richard Ebreit, a chemist at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, told DailyMail.com that the research is a clear example of gain of function research. He added, if we are to avoid a next lab-generated pandemic, it is imperative that oversight of enhanced potential pandemic pathogen research be strengthened. No, no. Dr. Ebright, in order for anybody to function, and you are a chemist at Rutgers in New Jersey,

in order for anyone to function according to the United States Constitution, under which you supposedly live, sir, and since you work at Rutgers, you are subsidized by the federal government in an unconstitutional manner, by the way, the oversight doesn't need to be strengthened. The research needs to be ended. All of it. All viral research, whether it's gain of function research or not. And then the CDC needs to be shut down. The NIH needs to be shut down. The only argument that can be made on their constitutional level for any of those to exist is for them to be backing the United States military. And that itself is a stretch. As far as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for the public, that is not the function he put forward. Men come together from the supposed

state of nature without a government in order to protect their lives and property from encroachments by other men. They create the state, the polis, in order to have the police force and adjudication system to capture, apprehend, and put away bad guys, and to bring about some form of restitution. Therefore, natural disasters and things of that sort are not supposed to be the purview. Things that we handle in our daily lives, it becomes such a sliding scale. Where does it end? And of course, we've seen over the years, it never ends. Obama gives people stinking cell phones. Now people say they have a right to the internet. And you're racist if you don't provide inner city people with the internet, with high speed internet, so that they can play games and watch porn. These are not problems that other people

are required to handle, and neither is your neighbor's security. And this is where John Locke made the error, of course, because the circular logic of Locke is you have a right to be left alone. I have a right to be left alone. We have a right to be leaving each other alone. And that government is formed to stop us from encroaching on each other. But government is used by other people to encroach on people. Government calls for itself the power to be able to encroach on us. So government says we can't hurt each other, but it can hurt us at any time. And it grows and grows and grows. You need to stop right there because the so-called rationale for the state is unjustified. It is an immoral imposition by people. It's a gangland force. It's a protection racket. And so in order to

protect us from viruses, they create viruses. There it is. In the new research, which has not been peer reviewed, so they have released a paper, a team of researchers from Boston University and Florida extracted Omicron spike protein, the unique structure that binds to and invades human cells. It has always been present, but it has been more evolved over time, thanks to humans mostly. Omicron has dozens of mutations in its spike protein that made it so infectious. Researchers attached Omicron spike protein to the original wild type strain, wild type strain, to the original strain that they created at the start of the pandemic. The researchers looked at how mice fared under the new hybrid strain compared to the original Omicron variant. Now, just want to go back. Don't forget, everybody.

We've got this. Executive Order 13887. September 19th, 2019. Donald Trump. Wow, what a shock. Modernizing influenza vaccines in the United States to promote national security and public health by the authority vested in me as president by the Constitution. Really? What authority? You don't have authority to do this. The Constitution doesn't give you this authority. Right off the bat, he's lying. And the laws of the United States of America, including Section 301 of Title III United States Code, it is hereby ordered as follows. Influenza viruses are constantly changing as they circulate globally in humans and animals and so on and so forth. So what does he want to do? He wants to make sure that they do gain-of-function

research. And I'll turn to, let's head over to this little website, and they talk about this. Let's see. Trump was the cheerleader of vaccines even before COVID was thought of, as seen by his September 19, 2019 executive order. He is still cheerleading as the king of vaccine that supposedly saved millions of lives. If we look at the timetable closely, the circumstantial evidence is quite convincing that Trump and Biden are simply agents of big pharma. The executive order, modernizing influenza vaccines,

the sanctioning of experimental vaccines, including gain-of-function bioweapons, is how they're translating it. President Donald Trump issued Executive Order 13887 on Thursday, September 19, 2019, in an attempt to improve and modernize influenza vaccine manufacturing processes to develop vaccines that provide more effective and longer-lasting protection. Under the order, a National Influenza Vaccine Task Force was established. The goal of the task force is to complete a report which includes a five-year plan to promote new vaccine manufacturing technology and to accelerate the development of a universal flu vaccine. Their translation, Trump sold out to Big Pharma since coronaviruses are considered equivalent to influenza.

This executive order was written before COVID-19 ever came along. Big Pharma wrote this EU so they could pull off the pandemic scam. I would not be surprised if that were the case, if they worked with the White House. The word pandemic appears repeatedly throughout this EO and basically makes Big Pharma a government monopoly with full immunity from liability. It sanctions cell manipulation and new types, that's mRNA, new types, viral vectors, pegylated graphene oxide, PG as they call it, of vaccines. Thus, the definition of a vaccine is changed through this executive order and allows experimental vaccine research and development. The order directs actions to reduce the United States' reliance on egg-based influenza vaccine production,

to expand domestic capacity of alternative methods that allow more agile and rapid responses to emerging influenza viruses, to advance the development of new broadly protective vaccine candidates that provide more effective and longer lasting immunities and to support the promotion of increased influenza vaccine immunization. That is what they say in section two. And of course, their translation, get ready for Frankenstein vaccines, which are supposed to kill elusive diseases, you will be coerced into taking toxic vaccines. So I just wanted to bring that up. That is a very big deal. Now let's go back a little bit to the people who were purged from Trump's White House, like Dr. Scott Atlas. This is from the Brownstone Institute from September of 2022, Debbie Lerman. She has a series of articles about

Deborah Birx. As we know, Jeffrey Tucker went into Deborah Birx's book, and I've got Jeffrey Tucker's story. David reported on that a number of weeks ago. But here it is. In his scathing account of his time on the task force, a plague upon our house, Dr. Scott Atlas, the only outsider I'm aware of who managed to penetrate the task force's inner workings, uses phrases like Kafkaesque absurdity, incomprehensible error, and frankly immoral to describe what he witnessed. Indeed, if the task force had actually been trying to apply best practices to pandemic mitigation, then everything they did would seem incomprehensibly misguided and obviously terrible, as it did to Atlas. However, if you believe, as I do, that Birx was imposing the lab-leak cabal's agenda on the task force and the country, and by extension the world, then everything they did suddenly makes perfect sense. All the policies that seemed ridiculous when examined separately worked

splendidly together to whip up massive panic, which in turn induced global compliance with draconian lockdowns. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to €10 if your horse loses on a selected race. That's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing. Cheltenham with LiveScore Bet. This is total betting. Sign up by 2pm.m 14th of march bet within 48 hours of race main market excluding specials and place bets terms apply bet responsibly

18 plus gambling care.ee continuing sorry to be like a prosecuting attorney here here is jeffrey tucker from july and he has. He says he's talking about Deborah Birx's book. He says at a certain point, at a certain point, the book skips immediately to the new year after she's left. He says it's like Orwell. The story, even though it was reported for days in the world press and became a defining moment in her career, is just wiped out from the history books. Why did she leave? She doesn't explain it. Just wanted to move on. Somehow it makes sense that she would neglect to mention the reasons why. Reading her book is a very painful experience, all credit to Michael Singer's review, simply because it seems to be weaving fables on page after page, strewn with bromides,

completely lacking in self-awareness, punctuated by revealing comments that make the opposite point of what she is seeking. Yeah, they just made up the six-foot rule. Remember that one. Reading it is truly a surreal experience, astonishing especially because she is able to maintain her delusionary prose for 525 pages. Well, it's because she probably had a ghostwriter. Of course she did. Chief lockdown architect, recall that it was she who was tasked by Anthony Fauci with doing the really crucial thinking of talking Donald Trump into green lighting the lockdowns that began on March 12th, 2020, 13th, and continued to their final hardcore deployment on March 16th. This was the 15 days to flatten the curve that turned into two years in many parts of the

country. Her book admits that it was a two-level lie from the beginning. We had to make these palatable to the administration by avoiding the obvious appearance of a full Italian lockdown. Avoiding the appearance, but it's what they wanted to get to. At the same time, we needed the measures to be effective at slowing the spread. Well, of course, they didn't slow the spread. You can look at any comparable statistics between places that did lock down and places that didn't lock down. Just compare Sweden to Italy, which meant matching as closely as possible what Italy had done, a tall order. We were playing a game of chess in which the success of each move was predicated on the one before it. So in other words, you were getting no success because there was no success in each subsequent

attempt. At this point, I wasn't about to use the words lockdown or shutdown. Well, of course not. You don't want people to hear the truth. If I had uttered either of those in early March after being at the White House only one week, the political non-medical members of the task force would have dismissed me as too alarmist, too doom and gloom. Yes, which is precisely what you were. The whole thing was fabricated and you admitted it in the White House, Deborah Birx. So I just wanted to bring that up to you, folks. I thought that was a pretty big deal. Never forget Donald Trump, September 19th, 2019. Now I want to go back now and play for you

some of the latest and give you some of the latest information out of Ukraine, because it's the same type of mendacity on the part of these people who are behind the deep state, who are also behind the deep pharmacological state. The military-industrial complex and the pharmacological complex, they are one and the same as far as their operations go and their effect on the United States. The pharmakia are as powerful as the military industrialists. So see if I can find this here. This has popped up in the news, in the New York Times.

Let's see if I can find it. Sorry, just a second here. All right. The New York Times. No one. First, I want to mention. Virtually no one in the U.S. Western media is mentioning the fact that the Russian government has requested, again, negotiations. After Likust and Donetsk in the Donbass voted over 99% to join Russia, as they once were,

first, we see a headline in the New York Times. See if I can find this in my screen caps here. Go over here and grab this. Wait till you see this. And I also want to give some credit to the good folks at Redacted about this, because this is just mind blowing. Ukraine, again, not true now because the Russians have just deployed 300,000 more soldiers. And what we appear to have seen with Vladimir Putin going slowly and trying to avoid civilian casualties as he tried to secure the Donbass's freedom from Ukraine after they had been attacked for years after the United States influenced the coup in late 2013, early 2014, and neo-Nazi forces started to wipe out thousands each year in the Donbass region, especially if we look at places like Donetsk and Likutsk. What we see here is that the Russians had been going very slowly and methodically, and now the holds are off. eastern Ukraine, Russia felt war on its own territory Sunday as more than a dozen explosions

ripped through a Russian border region and a series of blasts severely damaged the offices of Russia's puppet government in the Ukrainian city of Donetsk. So let's see if we can figure this out. Despite the fact that the United States is always talking about having free and fair elections, and despite the fact that the Russians have conducted what by what I've seen are unquestionably free and fair elections in the Donbass region. And that region voted 99% to rejoin Russia. They're saying this is a puppet government of the Russian government. So let's say it is, right? Who bombed Donetsk? The Ukrainians bombed Donetsk. And these were not just government facilities, as we'll show you shortly. These were also areas that civilians were depending on. So, as the people of Redacted point out, they say, so let's see if we can get this straight.

The Ukrainians, first they're claiming that these areas aren't Russian. So what did the Ukrainians do? They just bombed their own areas according to the ukrainian logic second they're so concerned that these areas could be turned over to the russians what do they do they bomb the people there how does that make any sense? Now, I'll turn to this. This is a young Ukrainian man who has been captured, and the people at Redacted got this. Check this out. He's been captured, and he testifies. This is his testimony. All we have to go by is his testimony that there are already american boots on the ground training ukrainians in ukraine we already saw joe biden meeting with soldiers in poland and when he met with the soldiers in poland he said you'll see when you go there some of you have already been there to ukraine he was talking to the 101st airborne division so he was saying

you've already been there you've already been on the ground in Ukraine. Ukraine is not part of NATO. Now, that's the superstructure of their rules. If we go by their U.S. Constitution, another superstructure. Again, I didn't sign any of this stuff and neither did you how is it that anybody should be involving united states taxpayer money in this foreign conflict at live score bet we love cheltenham just as much as we love football the excitement the roar and the chance to reward you that's why every day of the festival we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to €10 if your horse loses on a selected race

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18plusgamblingcare.ie Is the US at war? Has Congress declared war? No. So how is this in any way constitutional? How is the over $70 billion that the United States has funneled in weapons, in advice, in strategic planning, in training, in food, and all these things to these people who are now bombing their own people. And by the way, there is a story that the weapons that were used to bomb this region were U.S. provided weapons. So you likely paid for these weapons to bomb these people who just

want to get away from the neo-Nazi Ukrainians like the Slobodov Party. And that guy, Tanybock, who, as I showed in the last time when I was filling in for David, is in lots of photos with John McCain and Joe Biden. And you can see the photos of him. And he literally, if you look up the Slobodbodov party they are neo-nazi that's what they are so here is this testimony while we have the opportunity from this man who's been captured talking about what's going on i'll translate because it's got some amazing video we were given the order to clear the way to accompany these groups. Wait, while they dig in and leave. Foreign legion? Infantry?

What legion? Foreigners from different countries, Poland, Italy, America, England. Have you accompanied seven groups? Yes. Have you accompanied seven groups? Yes. Each group of 20 people? Approximately 15, 17, 20 people. That means you personally accompanied more than 100 people? Yes.

To Balakleya, Semyonkyava, Chepchenkovo, Kupyiansk, and the last one. Were there active officers among them? Yes. From which countries? From USA, England, and Poland. That is, there were acting officers of the armed forces of the USA and England? Yes. And what is the type of thing. And again, I've changed things around here on the program today, everybody, because of that development from Boston University and that laboratory story about this new development. These unmitigated falsehoods from Anthony Fauci. Just a series. How that man is ever going to save himself from the fires of purgatory, I don't know. But perhaps someday before he dies, he will ask forgiveness for this. It is just unbelievable. People are eroding their own souls over and over

and over again. And the superstructure of the United States government has been built on this mentality, on this, as I said, mendacity that ends up corrupting even more people. at good people like Julian Assange. And what really blows me away is that you've got people like John Bolton, who appeared, as I did the last film, appeared on Piers Morgan's program with Julian Assange's wife and said, oh, well, Julian Assange, what's he afraid of? He'll get his time in court. He'll get his due process. Like due process, dude, do you know how long that guy's been in Belmar stinking prison? How long does somebody have to wait before you can recognize that due process is a laugh? And what's he accused of? Violating the Espionage Act? He's a journalist. And Chelsea Manning's revelations, Chelsea Manning, as a member of the military, swore to expose war crimes. If Chelsea Manning had not exposed war crimes, Chelsea Manning would have been guilty of war crimes.

And again, we hear John Bolton saying, actually it was Piers Morgan said, well, just to play devil's advocate, it was WikiLeaks that exposed some names and pulled the redactions. No, it was not WikiLeaks that did that. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar, and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to €10 if your horse loses on a selected race. That's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing cheltenham

with live score bet this is total betting sign up by 2 p.m 14th of march bet within 48 hours of race main market excluding specials and place bets terms apply bet responsibly 18 plus gambling care.ee it was the guardian that did that it was a publication that did that so coming up in a couple minutes folks we're going to speak with a man who spoke over the weekend at the Julian Assange rally in Washington, D.C. He's one of my heroes and now my friend, James Bovard. And I'm going to contact James in just a moment to give you an opportunity to hear James Bovard's perspective on this. We're just going to go by phone with both James and Eric Peters, which actually is fairly easy for us. So you won't see the visuals, unfortunately, on this. So I'm just going to play this out for a

second. You can check this out and see some of this this but i want to go back a little bit to what natalie morris had to say about ukraine before like before they wouldn't say it now they're saying oh it's just a puppet government so now we can attack them there you go new york times a lot of sense so this is how you win the hearts and minds of the people back. Yet they are telling us that they won't talk, they won't attend any peace talks because these are our people. We can't leave them there. We can bomb them, but we can't leave them there. Do you see how that doesn't make sense? Yeah.

So we can bomb them, but we can't take care of them. So we can't provide any kind of help to them, but we can certainly bomb them. No, the idea is we can't come to peace talks because we know that Russia's conditions will be leaving these regions in Russia's hands. And we can't just leave them to be a part of Russia because there are people. We need to take them back into our borders. That's how they feel. That's what the First Lady said on 60 Minutes. That's why we can't have any peace talks because these are our people. Um, but it's okay to bomb

them. basically as cannon fodder. So this is amazing. Ukrainian reconnaissance forces were captured and interrogated. They confirmed what we already knew was that active duty American, British and Polish forces are actively involved in a fight. These are, of course, in addition to the contractors from America Italy Britain and Poland watch this it's subtitled it's an amazing video foreign All right, one and all. Now, I'm going to go back to the Infinity screen, do a little switch up here real quick, and then welcome our guest, none other than you know who, the great James Bovard. And, yeah, in fact, why don't I do this?

Let me just go like that. You'll see me, infinity screen, and we'll go back. I'll show you James Bovard's website in just a minute. Welcome James Bovard, journalist, author of many, many nonfiction books. Joining us on the David Knight Show is the great James Bovard. And James, thank you, first of all, for joining us. And well, actually, in equal measure, thank you for joining us and thank you for doing your great work and a triumvirate here. Thank you for speaking up in favor of Julian Assange. James Bovard, thanks for joining the program. Hey, Gardner, thanks so much for having me on. Thanks for your kind words and thanks for all the hell raising you do. Thank you very much. Yeah, I don't have any pins sticking out of my head, but hell raiser is the appropriate term, I guess. Clive Barker could have written about me. James, it's amazing. I'm sure you saw this footage of Julian Assange's wife on the Piers Morgan program with John Bolton.

Did you get a chance to see that or hear anything about that over the past five or six days or so? I saw some of that. I've been kind of out of touch with most of the last week, but I was glad to see her pushing back against John Bolton. John Bolton is like, you know, if you're going to him for an opinion, it's like, you know, you're going the wrong direction. Yeah, absolutely right.

Absolutely right. He's been wrong on everything. And his attitude in that appearance was just so insufferable. He was saying things like, wow, what's he afraid of? Why not just go to, why not appear in court? This is a guy who worked to make sure that the United States could not be considered for war crimes. This is a man who has been intimately involved in some of the worst United States interventions in the history of the United

States. This is a guy who actually is talking about due process for Julian Assange. He's like, oh, he's going to get due process. Like the guy has been in Belmarsh prison. And as I just said, before I brought you on, Jim, how long does somebody have to sit rotting in prison before you can say he's not getting stinking due process? And there's no reason that he should be put on trial in the first place. You spoke. Yeah. You spoke at the Washington, D.C. rally.

There were rallies all over the world in honor of Julian Assange. Can you tell us about the reason for the rallies and what you had to offer, especially as a journalist yourself? Well, I was there to try to frame the issue as far as the issue of pervasive government secrecy. And it's a charade that we've got self-government and we don't know what the government is doing. But that's the situation we have in this country right now. The federal government is creating trillions of new pages of secrets every year, according to the government itself. And with those trillions of secrets, so much of U.S. foreign policy and surveillance policies are simply things

that we'll never hear about until ever or perhaps 50, 60 years later. It's sort of like there is an official secrets act that has put an iron curtain around American citizens knowing the U.S. government. And this is a profound danger both to democracy and to peace and eventually to our prosperity, all of which are being hit right now. So there were a lot of folks. It's funny. I've talked to a number of folks and mentioned them. I was speaking out for Julian Assange, and they were kind of like, well, but he's a bad guy.

I heard so on the media. And I'm thinking, well, you need to find better sources. Because if you look at what Julian Assange did exposing the U.S. war crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq, I mean, that's like the ultimate public service that could be done for American citizens, because the U.S. government has been just, especially after 9-11, it was one fog bank of, you know, false claims after another. And that's part of the reason the U.S. has been dragged into so many foreign conflicts. And we're still being dragged into those foreign conflicts, and we still don't know the facts.

Yes, it's really amazing, Jim. You know, before I brought you on, I was talking about how we were warned about the military-industrial complex. Of course, the powers that can try to take advantage of government power, whether it be on a state, local, or national or international level, are always there. There's always going to be attempts by various interest groups to rent-seek off of the central authority economically. And that turns into some very sad and disastrous human tragedies, especially when you look at things like the military-industrial complex and now, of course, big pharma. Both of those seem to

be just incredibly powerful in the United States. And it goes back further than even Eisenhower's warning about the military-industrial complex. It goes back in American history to various things, to banking, to Eastern industrial interests and so on. But what we see right now seems to be just a metastasization, a metastasis, you might say, of what has been occurring over decades with the United States and Great Britain, whether it's the holdovers of British colonialism or the United States militarism. And it seems very difficult to shake people out of the idea of criticism of the United States and its policies overseas and recognizing that the United States is breaking rules that it itself supposedly signed on to to protect its own soldiers, that somehow that is seen as non-patriotic, that that is seen

as you're somehow anti-American if you happen to pay any attention to Chelsea Manning's releases to Julian Assange. And to me, that's very perverse. It's a very strange thing. And it's a mentality that people like John Bolton promote almost on a daily basis that George W. Bush promoted. And you really talked about that in the Bush betrayal. You did a great job on that. Oh, absolutely. Can you tell us a little bit about what you said down in Washington, D.C. at the rally for Julian? And then I want to talk a little bit about what you said down in Washington, D.C., at the rally for Julian? And then I want to talk a little bit about WikiLeaks and the accusations about WikiLeaks releasing names and being dangerous for the CIA. Well, I'm really glad there were protests.

There was a huge protest in London. There was a sizable protest in D.C. So I was talking to the audience. I was, again, trying to frame this, start out saying, you know, there's an old saying, if exposing a crime is a crime, then you're being ruled by criminals. And then I paused and pointed to the White House, and I said, except for Joe Biden. And then I pointed to the Justice Department. I said, except for Merrick Garland.

Then I pointed to the FBI headquarters, and I said, except for Christopher Wray. I said, well, maybe not. And then I said, I wanted to make sure I added those caveats to my speech so they get added to my dossier. And I was rattling on, and some lady yells out, what about Trump? And it was a left-wing crowd. And I'm standing there, I'm saying, so what? It wasn't like I was wearing a MAGA hat.

Yeah. But then I talked about a piece I did for USA Today four years ago that said that instead of a federal indictment, Julian Assange deserves a Presidential Medal of Freedom. Yeah. And that's, and I still believe that. I mean, okay, I don't trust presidents. I don't have respect for their Presidential Medals of Freedom, which have so often been given to the folks who helped drag us into foreign wars like Robert McNamara. But there is a fundamental principle here.

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And, you know, by far the biggest one on the horizon right now is the U.S. plunging into the war between Ukraine and Russia, which the Biden administration has seemed to do everything it can to prolong the war. I mean, Prudence calls for a ceasefire and to try to minimize the misery on both sides. I mean, but no such luck. I mean, part of the trouble is that, well, that's an aside thing. But Julian Assange is one of the people who was willing to bet their lives and their freedom on exposing government crimes. And this is something which there's a long history of this in this country of people who were courageous fruit tellers. And some of them paid a very high price. Unfortunately, Julian Assange is paying that price. To go back to your quote from John Bolton about, well, you know, did Julian Assange just come here and, you know, stand trial? The federal law and the federal courts are so rigged that he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a fair trial. It would be a kangaroo court. These cases are heard in the Eastern District of

Virginia, a court in Alexandria, Virginia, and the defendants are basically muzzled so that they can't offer evidence that the stuff that they exposed was in the public interest, that the government was committing crimes. Instead, it's simply, well, someone violated a law, which is basically a law which gives the government unlimited authority to censor critics, and therefore that person must be, you know, thrown to prison in perpetuity. Yeah, you know, a lot of brickbats are thrown at Julian Assange. And the jurisprudential brickbat that was thrown at him were these spurious rape accusations, which were proven false.

And in my opinion, I think they were pushed up by CIA connections or MI6 connections. What about the accusations against Julian and WikiLeaks about supposedly they did not redact the documents, some of the documents that they released. And therefore, as John Bolton said, they put assets, human assets at risk. From what I know, the WikiLeaks people were very, very thorough. And Julian's wife even mentioned they were even criticized for redacting too much. And it was publications later that pulled some of WikiLeaks' redactions that ended up exposing some people. Do you have any knowledge on that, Jim? Well, you know, I've Manning, who was charged and convicted and sent to a military prison for some years before President Obama set him free, set her free.

And that was the charge that had been thrown out was that Julian Assange's self-evidently exposed cost American soldiers their lives. But the federal government, even in the military trial that Manning faced, was not able to provide any evidence that U.S. soldiers or any U.S. forces had been victimized because of what WikiLeaks exposed. But the flip side of that is, is that if you go back to 2009, at the time that President Obama decided to have a big surge to boost his PR ratings here in the U.S., a big surge in Afghanistan that resulted in more than 1,000 additional U.S. soldiers and Marines dying in Afghanistan. There was never any good reason for that.

The CIA said in 2009 that it probably would not be successful. President Obama did not even bother reading the CIA analysis of how his program would probably fail, but it was good PR. It made Obama look tough, and that was part of his image building. And it squandered just endless American lives, Afghanistan lives, and billions of dollars of U.S. taxpayer dollars. There was a standard that the U.S. government had for its economic intervention was called a burn rate, and it was simply trying to spend money as fast as possible, acting like it was a magic wand that would somehow solve all the problems of Afghanistan

and make people trust and rally around the government and defeat the Taliban. But what happened is the U.S. intervention helped make Afghanistan the most corrupt government in the world. Unbelievable. Amazing. Jim, we're speaking with James Bovard, everybody, and you can go to James's website if you get the opportunity. James's Twitter, by the way, folks. In fact, you can see it on the inner screen here if you're watching on Rockfin. And thanks again to all the great people, Jason, Lori in the Rockfin chat. It's at Jim Bovard on Twitter. And and then from there you go to Jim Bovard, B-O-V-A-R-D dot com. And you can see James's website. He writes for USA Today. You'll see his pieces in so many different publications that it's just fantastic. New York Post, all over the place. see the thumbnails of many of his books. And Jim, I want to refer to one of those books in just a moment. Actually, a couple of these, make sure that what you have is cited and footnoted. And when you see the work of a journalist like Julian Assange and you see people going after him with something like the so-called Espionage Act, it makes me think.

I noticed that at that public rally in Washington, John Kiriakou was one of the folks who was scheduled to speak. And here is a man who exposed, as a whistleblower, exposed what the CIA was doing, what the rendition sites were doing, to a number of these people who had been captured in a time of no declared war, not being given any proper jurisprudential procedure, and they were being waterboarded and tortured in other ways. And yet it was John Kiriakou who was sent to jail. Do you ever worry as you do your work that people might try to use the Espionage Act to go after you, given what they have done to people like Julian Assange, James Bovard? Hey, I was a Boy Scout. I should be above suspicion.

Scout's honor. Yeah, I mean, well, the Washington Times had a story back in July about how the Justice Department had pressured USA Today to stop publishing my pieces bashing the attorney general that was under Obama and Eric Holder. So, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of folks that have got strong opinions on my work, let's put it like that. Let's let's Jim, let's let's's just repeat that because I remember when that piece was released and I was stunned by that. Let's repeat that again for the listeners. What was

revealed about what the Eric Holder Justice Department tried to do to you? The Eric Holder, the press chief of the Justice Department sent several messages to my editors at USA Today, basically complaining and basically urging them not to stop publishing my attacks on the attorney general.

And I managed to eventually get copies of those emails, and it's like, oh, well, this is interesting. And the thing which I wonder is how many other federal agencies have nudged editors and how many times, if any, did that official pressure result in closed doors? I don't know. I don't hear about that usually if it works. Let's talk about this on a media front then, Jim. I know you and I have had private conversations about this, and I think we've spoken about this on the radio once in Manchester on the radio station when I was out there. Can you tell people about the phenomenon that occurred between the changeover, between the Clinton administration when you had your book, Feel Your Pain, and then you came out later with the Bush betrayal. And there seemed to be a marked difference in the climate for some of the old so-called conservative people who used to welcome you to their television programs.

All of a sudden, there was a change in atmosphere once you started to criticize a Republican, wasn't there? Well, yeah, I mean, there was a change in atmosphere is a nice way to put it. It's a euphemism, but that's fine. I mean, there were a lot of places who were very enthusiastic about my criticism of Bill Clinton. But when I made similar criticisms of George W. Bush, it's like, you know, the door is closed. So, I mean, but this is life. This is how life in writing about politicians goes.

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18plusgamblingcare.ie Folks who thought I was on their team simply because I had a devotion to that political party. Well, I wasn't devoted to any political party. I was concerned about American freedom. And, you know, I kept making the same criticisms after the party in charge of the White House changed. And a lot of people did not appreciate that.

But, you know, it's a price I was willing to pay. Well, you have a great attitude about it, Jim. And I think a lot of us who have been, you know, I followed you as, you know, you were sort of one of my mentors before we met. And I always looked at your journalism and the insights that you had about economics and the workings of the political machine. They really fit so well with what I was learning as a teenager, reading your books, and then getting to know you has been just a fantastic blessing in my life. And I think, you know, I admire, oh yeah, yeah. And I think, you know, I admire. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And and I think a lot of us at a certain point have sort of reached that that attitude as well, where, well, you continue to do what you do because it's right to do. And it will attract people and word will eventually get around and you find your opportunities nonetheless. And this is what you have done. It's really terrific to see that despite the variations in political administrations and things like that, your consistent approach to freedom, free markets, privacy, peace, they have all been just unflagging. And once more, people come back to you

and they say, okay, let's see what this man is producing for us. Let me get back to the Julian Assange story, Jim. As you and I know, some of the video that was released by Chelsea Manning shows clear war crimes, indisputed. No one was ever prosecuted for those. The only person who was ever prosecuted was the whistleblower, Chelsea Manning. And to me, it seems very clear that the United States is engaging in activities in Ukraine and has been engaging in activities in Ukraine since the mid 2000s, particularly December of 2013, as I often mention, as they get involved with the Maidan conflict and the color uprising there into 2014 and the insertion of particular leaders that, as we heard Victoria Nuland and Jeffrey Pyatt discuss on a phone, matched exactly the people that they wanted to put in charge. To the Burisma appointment for Hunter Biden, to the attacks in the Donbass region, to the United States funneling of weapons there for years, all sorts of things. I think these are revelations that will come out down the line.

And can I just ask you about the Espionage Act? And yeah, this started, it's a World War I era act. And we know that the Obama administration tried to utilize the Espionage Act more times than any other presidents combined since the creation of the act. What is your opinion of the act? And essentially, what does it allow the government to do? Well, it's an act that was a World War I era relic, and it was put in place to basically shut down all criticism of the military conscription during World War I, as well as U.S. intervention into World War I. You know, we were dragged into there in large part by British propaganda, but that's a different story. But nowadays, it's encouraging to see how many press organizations and nonprofits stood up at the time that Julian Assange was indicted and said that indicting him as a publisher of classified information poses a great danger to the freedom of speech here

and freedom of press here in America. And that's how I view it. I mean, there are certainly leaks or selling of government secrets, military secrets, weapon secrets, stuff like that, that I could understand why the U.S. government would want to prosecute. But if you're prosecuting people simply for exposing data information about government crimes that is not going to have a huge contemporary impact, except for making people lose faith in US government intervention, then that's a bunch of hokum but the feds there's an instinct in Washington to instinctively portray

criticism of the government as somehow an attack on democracy and actually that's the only way that democracy can survive is if people are able to know what the government's doing and criticize it and, you know, stop politicians from doing so much harm here in America and around the world. Right. And of course, I do want to note that, you know, the ability of people to speak out in the sort of feel good terminology of democratic speech and so on, that democracy is, as we know, supposed to be constrained by the U.S. Constitution. The constitutional rules were blown off basically right off the bat, right after the Constitutional Convention. And in fact, there were basically threats put up against Rhode Island to adopt the Constitution. They were going to impose an embargo on Rhode Island if they didn't have a vote.

So the entire process of the Constitution being imposed to replace the Articles of Confederation is pretty shady. But these are the politicians who swear their oaths to uphold the document. I don't swear it. You don't swear it, Jim. And yet we're the ones who are criticized and seen as the nonconformist, as the outside entities, as the as the deadly pacificans I just want to talk a little bit about Ukraine, because I don't know about you, Jim, but I have just been floored by some of the biases of the pop media and the way that they have been upholding Ukraine and overlooking so much of the contextual background of what has been going on in Ukraine, even before the Maidan coup, going back to the United States involvement in, as we know, helping develop some of those bioweapons labs under Barack Obama when he was a U.S. senator back in the mid-2000s. We've seen Victoria Nuland openly admit to a lot of these things, whether it's

the conversation with Jeffrey Pyatt, the FDU conversation that became so infamous, or it's a recent testimony in front of Senator Cruz. Was it Senator Cruz? About the bioweapons So, it sort of blows me away, I mean Rubio, Marco Rubio, sort of blows me away that the pop media has been so diligently promoting this idea that the United States has to support Ukraine. Is it me or is there nothing in the Constitution that allows any of this? Well, I don't see, I don't recall provisions of the Constitution about supporting corrupt foreign governments. But maybe there's a secret version of the Constitution that you and I haven't seen. I don't know. It's frustrating because it seems as if both parties have this notion that the U.S. has a divine right to intervene anywhere on almost any pretext. And it's working out very badly as far as world peace. Yeah, yeah, absolutely right.

Well, James Bovard, I hope people will go to your blog. It's jimbovard.com. Would you like to mention your latest piece and where people can find it? I had a piece on Saturday, the New York Post on Biden's unending covid dictatorship, which is, you know, had a few good lines. Hey, but, you know, the pandemic so-called wink wink is over and yet the emergency is not over. It's a paradox. It is unbelievable. Well, James, congratulations. Good job. I loved your speech down in Washington. You were with some terrific, kind-hearted, and principled people, and I hope people will go to your website. I hope they'll

visit you on Twitter, follow you on Twitter, at Jim Bovard, J-I-M-B-O-V-A-R-D, and go to your website. I hope they'll visit you on Twitter, follow you on Twitter at Jim Bovard, J-I-M-B-O-V-A-R-D, and go to your website, Jim, check out the books. And I hope they'll get the Fair Trade Fraud because that one, especially on economics, a lot of folks can really learn a lot by looking at that book as well. I love that book so much. I often mention it, as you know. Hey, thanks so much. That's very kind, Gardner. I wish you all the best. Thanks so much. And of course, I know that if David Knight were here, when I mentioned your name, David loves you. So you get a hat tip from David, I'm sure. Definitely, Jim. Thanks so much. Okay. James Bovard, everybody. Thanks, Jim. We'll talk to you soon off the air.

Thanks. Okay. Bye. James Bovard, everybody. In about a couple seconds, we'll get in touch with none other than Eric Peters of EP Autos. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the the roar and the chance to reward you that's why every day of the festival we're giving new members money back as a

free sports bet up to 10 euro if your horse loses on a selected race that's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing cheltenham with live score bet this is total betting sign up by 2 p.m 14th of march bet within 48 hours of race main market excluding specials and place bets terms apply bet responsibly 18 plus gambling care.e and in fact i'm going to put the call through right now and um get in touch with him so uh thank you everyone in the chat jason thank you so much john oh and harps awesome and thanks for sending over the tips. Really appreciate that. So let's talk with none other than Eric Peters, epautos.com. I want to put his website up on the screen. Hedging bets, Toyota. Yes, indeed. Interesting stuff from Toyota. Hello, Eric

Peters. It is Gardner calling you on the air. Hi, how are you? It's great to hear from you. Are you doing good? I am doing great. I am doing great. And would you like to talk to the audience right now, sir? Certainly. All right.

Eric Peters, everybody, epautos.com. And Eric, thanks for the timing. This is really nice of you to do. We just got off the line with one of of my great heroes james bovard james is great his stuff has been at the mises institute and many other websites your work has been at the mises institute but people might be most familiar with you from eric peters autos ep autos uh how can they follow you on twitter and should they go to ericpetersautos.com as the main website, Eric Peters Autos? I would say so because it's probably only a matter of time before I'm swatted from Twitter.

And I even hate that word. It sounds like something an emotionally incontinent 12-year-old would do. But yeah, if you want to find me on Twitter, I am LibertarianCarG, because I wasn't allowed more characters, so I can't be the Libertarian Car guy. Yeah. All right, cool. You're the original Homie G. You're the original gangster. That's what we'll say. You're the original car gangster. I guess we're all gangsters now if we're on the freedom side of the fence, aren't we? Oh, absolutely. There's so much to discuss. And you know, it's funny, Eric, I was talking about how when David and his family started up the show, his independent show, that first week they were working so hard, they had flooding in their studio and they were doing things by phone. And that was during that period in Texas, when they had the icing and their dumb wind farm idea caught up with them. They couldn't have energy going to the homes. And you've been doing such yeoman's work, exposing the fallacies and some of the corrupt connections behind the push over the years for the fake bogus

climate MacGuffin, the climate boogeyman, and then translating this into government directed fascist corporatocracy where they're driving these electric vehicles. And it's just been fantastic to see. You've got a couple really excellent pieces. I hope people will check these out. Hedging Bets, October 18th publication, and Duck Smiting. And I'd love for you to talk about either one of these on your website. And of course, if people want to follow you, they can go to ericpetersautos.com. Take your pick, Eric, and please tell us about some of the new developments that you've been seeing that might be warning signs for people or information they might want to know in this

very intense and ramping up battle where the government is taking our money to subsidize the demise of the internal combustion engine. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Well, let's start with something that's kind of peripheral, but nonetheless, I think, related to duck smiting article, which makes a humorous point about a solemn thing, which is what it takes to put meat on the table. And as many people who follow my stuff know, I've gotten into raising chickens and ducks for a variety of reasons. But the two primary ones are to be independent of these centralized control grids that can, as we have discovered at any moment, pull the rug out from under us and deny us food or the ability to buy food if we don't obey obediently whatever the latest fatwa that happens to come out happens to be, whether it's mask wearing or vaccinating or whatever it's going to be in the future yeah um and also uh i think that it's a reality check and an important one to get back to understanding where our food comes from and what it takes to put food on the table and uh to be aware of the animals that provide us our food and to treat them with respect

and kindness uh which frankly is not what happens to them in these industrial mass scale food operations, which, you know, I'm just morally leery of it and I'm trying to disconnect myself from it to the extent possible. And it's nice that it also dovetails with just being more self-sufficient, more local, more decentralized. I think ultimately that is the key to our getting out from under this, as you put it, fascist system that's being imposed on us. And I think it's important to point out that that term doesn't mean goose-stepping. A lot of people just don't

understand what the term means. Fascism means the merger of state and corporate power together. That's what we're dealing with. And it's a loathsome, awful thing. And I think to the extent that we can to undermine it and get away from it is very sound policy. I agree with you. And we're seeing some interesting forces lining up. And I want to talk about your piece, by the way, because I have some personal experience working in a farm stand as a teenager and then later touring Australia, going to a chicken abattoir and a kangaroo meat processing plant. So I had to make sure that I shared that with you because I thought your experience in taking care of the ducks and the chickens was

quite interesting. And I think a lot of people don't even know what the term smiting means. But just to get into the political forces here, Eric, as I mentioned to James Bovard, these forces have been rising all throughout the history of the United States. They've been perennial throughout human history. In fact, I was mentioning to some folks that I know at the Mises Institute that, you know, I've been looking into the early, what do you call those, guilds and how they were precursors to corporations. And some very interesting information about guilds. Someone told me a long time ago, actually, this is quite interesting, Eric, that baker's guilds used to have incredible power in various cities throughout Europe or small towns because many people didn't have their own ovens in which they could really bake things. So they relied on the baker.

And I didn't even think about that. And so the bakers, if they united, they could have very incredible clout to control the price of bread in various locales. And it's quite interesting the way that if you've got some sort of central political authority or an authority that allows... At LiveScore Bet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar, and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a

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And curiously enough, there was a story about a couple of days ago about four state governments that have pulled their investments out of BlackRock. It's a billion dollars worth of investments out of BlackRock because of their ties to ESG, that environmental, social, yeah, governance stuff. And it really opened my eyes, that and the New York comptroller and how he had been pushing to get the credit card companies to attach these codes to gun shop sales. And he was going to withdraw the retirement pension funds from these credit card companies. And I thought, wow, there's a whole dimension of money that I have not even considered. It's got to be trillions of dollars that are just sitting, waiting to be used as levers by these various political forces. And they're all arrayed against us, the consumers, in various ways, whether it's direct regulations that prevent us from getting things or doing things, or they're regulations that they impose on businesses, or they're tariffs that they impose on foreign goods, or they're direct payments going to some of these corporations for electric vehicles or for the military industrial complex to make tons of billions of dollars off of Ukraine. Without question.

Yeah. I think the key issue here for libertarians in particular, this business of corporations, a lot of libertarians will defend corporations, and my rebuttal to them is that my problem with corporations isn't the corporation per se. It's when a corporation is empowered by the government yeah so i i don't have a problem with cooperative businesses you know people getting together into a venture let's say uh and and running a business but it's it's a problem when the state grants special privileges to a quote-unquote corporation which then can use the

government to lock out through things like regulatory capture any potential rivals that might be in a position to offer a better product or service for less money. And that's part of the problem that we're dealing with here. You mentioned the baking guilds. They're toothless and powerless if you or I or anybody else can, hey, I'm going to go build an oven and I'm going to offer bread at a better price and maybe better bread or more variety to my neighbors. But these guilds, what they do is they use the government to prevent other people from entering into the market. In the car business, when Henry Ford came out with the Model T,

it was an open free market. So his better idea displaced the horse and buggy and the largely hand-built cars that existed prior to the Model T today there are huge barriers to entry you know I and a friend of mine who's a professional mechanic we could build a simple light little car the problem is we could never get through the gantlet of regulatory rigmarole that that is necessary in order to legally offer it for sales of the public and that's why we have these ossified consolidated corporations that offer humongously expensive vehicles that increasingly most people can't afford and many people don't even want.

Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's interesting because that translates a little bit to what I was discussing at the beginning of the program, Eric, which is if you look at things like the FDA and the CDC, and Mary Ruard has done a great job with her book, Death by Regulation. What a saint she is. What an angel. And I recommend anybody who's going to read the real Anthony Fauci book by RFK Jr., please read Mary, Dr. Mary Ruard's book called Death by Regulation, because it's a great preface to RFK Jr.'s book. But the very idea of regulation is fascism. It is gangsterism. And it prevents people from actually engaging in free market exchange. All it is, is one group of people saying, no, you cannot deal with another person in free association to trade goods for services or goods for money or anything like that, because we are going to tell you we're going to point guns of government at you and say, before you engage in this, you must comply with what we dictate.

And that is just that is offensive to all of human dignity. I just want to use that word. There is an insufferable aspect to it, you know, that I am not intelligent enough, judicious enough as an adult to weigh whether a service or a product that's being offered to me is something that I want to buy. You know, that we're idiot children, basically, that we have to be parented by this managerial elite that knows what's good for us. And I'm sure going to make sure we get it good and hard. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And in the meantime, you've got all these different interests now with ESG. It's fascinating to see how for years we had the perverse food pyramid that was manipulated by grain producers and so on. And people like Archers, Daniels, Midland, the corn conglomerate and ethanol in the fuels. Again, special interests pushing ethanol into the fuels. Those don't dissipate well in cold weather when the exhaust comes out. All sorts of problems, which is one of the reasons why California has a special mix during the wintertime. And even Fidel Castro, when the George W. Bush administration wanted to have an increased amount of ethanol, corn-based ethanol, there are other types of ethanol,

of course, wanted to have corn-based ethanol increased by 15% in the fuel lines. Even Fidel Castro had a piece released in one of the Cuban publications that said that this is going to increase the cost of basic corn for people all around the world. You're going to make it harder for people to eat. And now we've got the weirdest, most perverse side of it, which is now they're even turning on the food producers of meat in places like holland and they want to they want to take 17 000 farmers out of their farms uh for nitrogen release releases and they want people to eat bugs and i was going to show footage on saturday but we had some tech problems and now people have started to see the footage of of these these schools in Holland bringing mealworms into kids

and having the kids eat worms in school. I mean, it's crazy. When you and I were kids, if somebody had eaten a worm at recess, it would have been the talk of the school, and the kid would have been in the bathroom throwing up, you know? We did it on a dare. Yeah. The key thing to understand here, it's not about nitrogen. It's not's not about climate change it's about insertment it's about impoverishment

it's about enrichment it took me a long time to grapple with this because i think i'm not a psychopath and you know the and and the problem with not being a psychopath is it's difficult to really see that there are people out there who are motivated by things that normal people are not motivated by. I know that that's a strong statement, but when you see the common thread that runs through all of this, and you analyze it and recognize that these hysterias that they promote, that they know they're promoting, are false, and they're doing it with a deliberate malignant intent to reduce us to a state that's best described as feudalism. That's what they want to return us to, where the very handful of people who are in the

castle, the manor, have everything, and we have nothing. And they've been explicit about it. That's actually that saying that the WEF put out that everybody's heard about, how in the future, you will own nothing and be happy. And of course, the question that begs is, who's going to own everything and the answer is the wef and you got it you got it and you know what's interesting eric when i read your piece about smiting at live score bet we love cheltenham just as much as we love football the excitement the roar and the chance to reward you that's why every day of the festival,

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you know, and this might be spiritual, this might be religious. But I thought about the sentiment that you express in this story about smiting. So let's talk about that in just a second with this brief intro. There's a tie to humanity here and the relationship between a human and nature that is being eroded from us with this corporF, Klaus Schwabian, worldwide socialism, fascism, top-down pyramid that they want to apply to us, where the guardians are going to overlook us serfs.

And you can talk about this. You mentioned at a certain point about having to kill the ducks. You raised the ducks. Can you tell us a little bit about this experience and why you wanted to write about this? Yeah, well, it was about really fundamentally, I think, getting in touch with objective reality. Again, increasingly we live in this alienating world, and I think it's alienating because so much of it is unreal. Virtual, if you like, that's the term that they use. You see the kids buried in their cell phones,

even when they're sitting right next to each other, they won't talk to each other, they'll text each other as they're sitting there on the sofa, and people don't go out and do things anymore. They play video games. They live in an ersatz false reality. And food is almost the same thing now. A lot of it isn't even really food anymore.

It's a concatenation of chemicals that are packaged and bagged for you. And you go to this place called the store and you pick this stuff up and you have no connection to the land and to the animals from which these things came from. And I think it's extremely healthy and positive to reestablish that connection. And that's what I've been trying to do personally. And it's something that I recommend and advocate that other people consider doing as well. Yeah, I agree. And, you know, I used to tell people when I was a kid that I didn't want to sound like, you know, I was being, uh, you know, just isolated in my own experience, but I learned so much working on the farm stand and being out in the fields and, you know, planting things and growing things and, uh, being out there with the bees and, and, uh,

you know, watching the squirrels and stuff and, and then later washing the stuff down and having to keep it and then putting it in coolers where there was a higher nitrogen content than oxygen content. So things wouldn't spoil and the different ways that people in their professions develop things when they're close to what they're raising. And I often think about people who work with animals, as you do. And, you know, when you have to take the life, as you say, you know, you raised these ducks, you fed them and watered them, you looked in their eyes and you realize, and I think part of getting your own food is an understanding of your own limitations. That even though you have the power to wipe out all these lives, you're not necessarily going to.

You're going to take what you need from nature. It's not gratuitous. I recall reading something in Ben Franklin's Poor Richard's Almanac, I think it was, when he said, that which we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly. I think that was the saying. And that applies here. You know, I understood very intimately what was involved in raising my flock, the work that was put into it, and the harvesting of it. You know, I did it with my own hands. And it instills in me a great respect for nature and for the animals and for the cycle of life that we're all part of. And I think it's important that we, that we come to terms with that and not live in an unreality and not be flippant about food. You

know, it's very easy to go to the store and buy a styrofoam tray of, it's just meat. You know, you depersonalize it. It's meat. It's not an animal and you had nothing to do with, with it other than, you know, paying for it. And I do think that cheapens it in a really profound way. That's a great way to say it. And you know, it's interesting, Eric. We're speaking with Eric Peters. Go to ericpetersautos.com. And again, how can they follow you on Twitter, Eric?

It's libertariancarg. I know that that's kind of a mouthful. I'm not really an expert with all the social media stuff, and I don't really want to be. All right. All right. I'll just bring this up, Eric, sort of ties in. The American Institute for Economic Research, AIER, down in Great Barrington, Massachusetts. Evidently, Anthony Fauci has never heard of them. The Great Barrington Declaration, of course, where a number of people that are in libertarian circles have done great work. James Bovard's had stuff published over there with them. Just a little highlight here, a headline to read to you, Eric.

The United States receives lowest economic freedom ranking since 1975. This came out October 14th. And I think I'm not going to go into details, but I think it's another alarm bell for us, Eric, to tell us that forming common ground with people, finding common ground, finding friends, working and getting to know things, not necessarily trying to be a master of all trades or even a person who's great at all trades, but expanding our ability to be able to do things. This is something that you've been doing at your own home, isn't it? Yeah, it is. And I think each of us has a skill set that we can leverage in a positive way with our friends, our families, our neighbors, the people that we actually know,

in such a way that it redounds to our mutual benefit. That's the sort of thing I think that we can all do to bring this country, but you know, starting at the local level, starting with your neighborhood, starting with the people that are in your circle, that ultimately the country, back from this precipice, yeah, I agree with you. Trying to do everything yourself is crazy. You know, civilization is built by cooperative effort. The key thing there is cooperative, not coercive, that we exchange with one another the skills that we have and thereby expand and increase the net results of all of our collective effort, but without the element of coercion. Well said. Eric, if I can, I'd like to turn just quickly. There was some positive information in

the news, and I put this out on Substack. I'm going to throw this at you real quick while we have the opportunity, because even though we're seeing just the incredible dangers of people like Klaus Schwab and some of these awful forces in the United States, there have been some positives. And I want to turn to a story that I posted at Substack. Get your thoughts about this, because as a person who understands economics, I think this would be right up your alley. It's about a group of people who actually were successful at blocking the attempt to try to do this carbon sequestration. This is from the New American, was published on October 14th. Victory for private landowners over carbon capture pipeline. Private landowners there in Iowa are encouraged by a recent court victory in Woodbury County amid battles to protect property rights, a judge ruled in early October that a carbon capture pipeline company could not conduct a survey of a farm without the

landowner's consent. The ruling caused Navigator CO2, a corporation affiliated with BlackRock, to withdraw similar requests for access to private farmland through court orders intended to circumvent litigation that will be playing out in coming months. It's the latest in an ongoing saga involving billions in federal government subsidies to expand pipelines for money-wasting carbon capture schemes nationwide. Last year's $1.2 trillion so-called infrastructure bill passed by Congress with the invaluable help of 13 Republicans in support of President Biden's Build Back Better carbon neutral agenda contained $2.1 billion to fund low interest loans for carbon dioxide pipeline expansion. What do you think about this carbon capture flippancy and the entire concept that carbon is a pollutant?

Well, let's start with, I think, the most execrable thing of all, which is this business of eminent domain, which is a kind of euphemistic way of saying people's land is simply seized for the use of a private corporation. Great point. It's one of the most lonesome things, most anti-freedom and liberty-minded things that I can think of. We've had the same issue here. There's been a pipeline company that's been using the government to take farmland from people to install their pipeline. Now, whether know, whether the pipeline is a good or a bad idea isn't the point. If it's a good idea and they're willing to pay people and people are willing to voluntarily

say, sure, you can run your pipeline through my land, you know, in return for whatever the mutually agreed sum of money is, fine. And the same with this carbon sequestration thing. I think it's ridiculous. But if the pipeline can convince people, hey, you know, we'll pay you X amount of money to permit us to install this thing in your back 40 or whatever. If they want to do that on that basis, I don't have a problem with it. I think it's silly. I think carbon dioxide to get into that whole thing. You know, whenever I discuss

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0.04% I think is my understanding. So it's a really small number. Yeah. So now we're supposed to believe that some kind of a fractional reduction of that fractional reduction is going to stave off the supposed climate crisis that we're told is imminent and have been told is imminent for most of my life. I mean, this has been going on for 40-something years. We've been telling the climate is going to be catastrophically changing,

and it never seems to because it doesn't and it isn't. This arrogant idea that we're somehow influencing nature in that manner is just preposterous. It is brought to us by the same people who sold the public on this hysteria of mass death ensuing from what amounted to a more than usually strong flu season. That's that's all we were dealing with during the so-called pandemic and terrifying people on purpose, deliberately terrifying them to believe that black death was on the loose. And they're doing the same thing with this so-called climate crisis. They take a kernel of truth and then they extrapolate using computer models into this hystericized scenario in order for the same end result, which is their power and their control over us. Yes, yes, absolutely right. And your point about the freedom to engage in endeavors in which people would be free to invest is very important. When I posted that at Substack, I mentioned that Kelo decision and eminent domain because Judge Souter had been involved with that. David Souter. And he came from New Hampshire. we protested outside his house after that Kelo

decision. Yeah. And that was in New London, Connecticut in the mid 2000s. And, you know, and the curious thing about that that gets me, Eric, is the differential between the traditional conservatives and the libertarians who I think drilled down to the root of the matter. And I think we're seeing something similar in a lot of other manifestations today. But if we look at things like the Kelo decision was that this woman's property could be taken to be given by the city of New London because they could get a better tax base if they took her property and gave it to a corporation. can take your property for public use runs against the very concept that John Locke argued was the rationale for government in the first place, which was the protection of private property. Sure, certainly. In effect, they're saying, you know, if you're strong, then we're going to put a heavy load on you because you're more able to pull it. It's essentially an argument for enslavement,

a utilitarian argument. Your property, the work product that you create, fundamentally, it's not yours only. It's ours to the extent that it serves our broader purpose as defined by them. Yes. And that enslavement point is very, very important because philosophically, if a group of people claiming the power of the state can say that for the betterment of everyone, we are going to take your property, there is no end to that. It doesn't matter. And that goes for taxation or physical property or anything like that. And just as we saw with the COVID-19, Cowabunga 19 pandemic lockdowns, they can then tell you, you will not operate your business for X, Y, or Z days or X, Y, or Z ways. And these are things that unfortunately people become accustomed to these things and they should not. And this is why this is extremely troubling to me because I think today, Eric, we stand on a superstructure. The classic line is,

you stand on a house built on lies. But we are in a superstructure where encroachment upon encroachment upon encroachment has been accepted by generation upon generation upon generation, all the way into what kind of car we can buy. I mean, it's insane. Can I get, yeah. You know, I harp a lot on principles because ultimately I think principles determine everything. And if the government can say, take a penny of your money, then wants to prevent it from taking every dollar that you have exactly and there's absolutely nothing other than the arbitrary whim or the political considerations

of the moment there's no hard line there yeah there has to be a hard line there if there isn't uh then anything goes and that's something people need to need to understand whether it pertains to money whether it pertains to your right to open your business and and for people to come into their into your business if they wish to all of these things are fundamentally the same thing we either have rights or we don't uh there's no gray area on these things absolutely right we're speaking with eric peters go to ericpetersautos.com everybody as most of you know in the rock fin chat thank you so much for uh hanging out and giving us the positive vibes and for contributing so much. We have a lot of people watching and you can watch, by the way,

don't forget everybody can watch on Twitter, David Knight's Twitter feed on DLive, on Odyssey and on Rockfin. And Dave, Eric, before we leave you, I just want to mention the hedging bets piece, which was released on the 18th. Can you give people a quick thumbnail on that piece over at the website? Sure. Well, it's a really interesting thing. Toyota is the world's largest single automaker. And the reason that it is, is because it sells cars. And the reason that it sells cars is because it makes cars that people want and can afford. That's the preface to what I'll tell you now. And that is that Toyota is the only major automaker that isn't going all in on this electrification transition that all the other car companies are virtue signaling about.

And I think it's because Toyota understands that there is a limited market for $50,000 EVs that are extraordinarily impractical to keep relative to a non-electric car. So, you know, they are standing their ground and God bless them for doing that. You know, we need heavyweight players in the field and not just the car field to take a stand for what's rational, right, and reality based. Absolutely right. And I have to say, I think that that is a bet that in the long run is going to pay off because as you have exposed, as, and you probably have noticed this, Eric, talk shows all over the country are getting phone calls from people saying,

look, these electric vehicles, they're just not feasible. Whether it's the hurricanes and these things are sparking up and causing fires, as you discussed with David last week, or it's cold weather and they're conking out on the highways and people get in. You can't just walk a new battery to one of these cars and put the new battery in. Although, as I mentioned, I thought that if they're going to try to develop this, then they're not going to have charging stations. They're going to have battery replacement stations where people just drive in and they'll have batteries there. But even that is just ridiculous. The whole thing is so stupid.

Well, it's delusional. Even the language is delusional. You'll hear people talk about, and I'll put it in air fingers quotes, fast chargers. Yeah. I'm referring to electric chargers. Oh, so fast is now 30 to 45 minute wait, as opposed to the actually fast, less than five minutes it takes to fill up your gas tank and be on your way. Right, right.

Absolutely. It's just symptomatic of this broad- your gas tank and be on your way. Right, right. Absolutely. It's just symptomatic of this broad-based delusion and also of dishonesty. Something that I've been hammering and trying to explain to people, you hear about fast charging. You can't do that at home. They like to let people believe that you'll be able to fast charge at your house. No, you can't do that because homes do not have the 400 to 800 volt infrastructure that's necessary to do that. homes do not have the 400 to 800 volt infrastructure that's necessary to do that that's commercial grade yeah so what you're going to do at home is what they call level two

and it amounts to a trickle charge it's like uh using your dryer outlet it's a 240 volt double pole system and that will take you seven to nine hours to trickle charge your ev yeah you know it's it's just ludicrous and you combine that with their short range and the range that that Yeah. everything else that's going on, somehow they're going to be expected to spend 30 to 50 percent more for a vehicle and one that's probably only going to be functionally viable for maybe eight years before it needs to have a new battery. And that battery will cost you more than the vehicle is worth to replace. It is delusional. But as we all know, Eric, you and I know, an economy is not really about getting us more for less. It's about making everybody work. And it sure is good that kids will have to be mining for lithium.

We'll just make them work. And that'll just make the world a much better place. It's a really, really important point. There's a despicable aspect of this. The bias left that pushes this ev stuff more than anybody else and and feigns and postures and pretends to be uh the great friend of humanity they studiously ignore these kids literally children uh in the congo that are with their hands clawing the cobalt out of open minds it's it's beyond loathsome you know nobody wants to

talk about this but it's it's an ugly aspect. And by the way, most of the kids who are doing this, they're not white. Yeah, yeah. That's a good point. All those people are so racially sensitive, and yet they're not putting any cameras on these kids. It's really sad. Eric, thanks so much for joining us. I did want to mention one other thing in your piece on Toyota. I thought it was great. You said Toyota recognizes these economic and practical realities. The rest of the industry acts as if they do not exist. This is like acting as if gravity does not exist when leaning over the edge of a steep cliff. And then your separate line, gravity does not care whether you believe in it, of course. Perfect. Eric, your phrasing is great. Your writing is great. And thanks. I really appreciate you joining me like this. And again, I apologize to Jim Bovard and I know my voice doesn't sound quite normal right now. so hopefully I've maintained my side of things here okay for you.

No, you sounded fine, and hopefully you didn't hear my dog yelping and my cat yowling in the background. No, no, it's no problem. And sometime when we all get to join in a community where we're living nearby each other, I'll rent the space and we'll cobble together our own car. We'll do it up. David will be in there with us It'll be like a Miata Yeah, and then we'll have a nice meal afterward Of fresh roast duck

I'll be up for that, sounds good for me I like that Thanks so much Eric, I really appreciate it Ditto Gar, thank you for having me on You got it, you got it man, take care Eric Peters, ericpetersautos.com everybody Check out the website It is awesome And he is on the ball. And now I want to turn back over because we're just a little bit after 11 o'clock. I want to turn back over to none other than Tony Arteburn, who can join me anytime in the studio. And he'll be with me chatting a little bit. So let's talk about a lot of big items in the news. Tony. Hi, Tony. How are you?

Good to see you, my friend. The show sounds great. Oh, great. Great. Very, very good. And as you know, I had some ideas technologically to be able to do certain things, to see certain things and so on. So you know how it is sometimes when you're sort of hiding things, you don't want the audience to get distracted by the infinity screen and so on. You've been awesome, Tony. And thank you so much for this period while we were filling in for David and your help technologically and just as a friend and with the Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange and David Knight's Wolfpack links. It's just been awesome.

And so many big stories. So, Tony, you've been listening to the show, you've been watching the show, and you've been doing your own things aside over at your business there just outside of Branson. So I'll just leave it open to you, man, and I'm going to grab a little Mountain Dew here. So what are your thoughts about some of these big stories that we've been discussing or if there are other things that might be coming up for you? Well, it's all interconnected. You know, the corruption of the ruling class, the suppression of information, you know, Julian Assange and you covering that. I mean,

it's just an absolute crime, but it links up to what we're seeing now, which is the overreach and power grabs by the psychopaths at the top and leading us into, I pray to God it's not, but it looks like World War III and nobody seems to be putting on the brakes. I was talking to you in the back office this morning and we were talking about the lack of a peace movement in this country. I mean, there are some good people, but I'm talking about even in breaking into mainstream politics, it's just not there. And it's completely absent. There's a spirit in the air. If you want to talk about metaphysics, spiritual warfare, there's something in the atmosphere, Gar. That's what I feel. And again, we're here right on the front lines of, I'm so proud to be associated with people like you in this time where we're just so in need of the truth of knowledge. I think that's Proverbs, isn't it?

My people perish for lack of knowledge. I'm glad to be. Again, we're just men trying to figure things out. We're mortals. We don't have all the pieces to the puzzle, but we're trying to figure it out. And I'm looking at headlines like there's an article up on Summit News Guard and I want to the Twilight Zone. You've got this story right here. It just came out a couple of minutes ago. And it says, disgraced former FBI official declares that 9-11 is nothing compared to January 6th. Are you kidding me? If you ever watch the movie Platoon. Oh, it's Peter Strzok.

Oh, yes. Yes. Great film. You watch the movie Platoon and Charlie Sheen's character character of course it's supposed to be oliver stone and uh he said um someone once said that that hell is is the absence of reason and i like that's what we're in like there's yeah this is so you remember when peter peter struck when he was doing his facial contortions during the congressional testimony? And it was just, I mean, you have to try to look that way.

Yeah, what was up with that? I felt like he was, you know, like trying out for the next Chucky film or something like that. Like put a knife in his hand. I mean, it's just, and he, in his eyes, and he was really animated about it. He loves his deep statory, whatever he does.

In an insane segment on MSNBC Sunday, disgraced former FBI official and rabid anti-Trump lunatic Peter Strzok described the September 11, 2001 terror attacks, which killed thousands of Americans, as nothing compared to Trump supporters entering the Capitol on January 6th. Because, you know, QAnon shaman is the same as a 747, you know, I mean, what? And jet fuel and people incinerated and controlled demolitions. And I mean, come on, this guy and he's not alone. I don't think I don't think he's like an outlier. I think he's a sampling of a certain type of demographic, psychologically, sociologically. I think this is a representation of something real.

I mean, in no way. Yeah, I think it's a common. It's funny, if you can call that image back up again, that struck thing, you'll notice there's, the original came from, I think, MSNBC. That was the source. But if you see the bulldog, see the bulldog up there on the upper right? Yeah. So that's the MRC TV logo. That's those. So, yeah. So MRC TV has been following a lot of people. They started to push that narrative very early on. I mean,

even the term January 6th is, I think, a rhetorical device that was started either at CNN or MSNBC. And in my opinion, to try to make it that sort of lexicon like 9- know, like September 11th. And, you know, it was nowhere near that risable at all. It was not a Pearl Harbor. It was not 3,000 people getting wiped out. It was not something that needed to be investigated. It was not a complete failure, at least, of all of the defense postures that the United States government has been selling to populations for generations. The air system that it's been telling us is so safe and secure. Nowhere is anywhere close to that. And to say that is just incredibly insulting to all the people who lost family members and have been trying to

seek justice over 9-11 and who have actually learned about some of the very strange things that are inconsistent with the government narrative about 9-11. Peter Strzok, man, what a filthy person. I like what PJW said. He called him a lunatic. I mean, that's perfect. And by the way, Paul Joseph Watson on Rockfin now. He's doing a great job. I like summit.news. It's a good site for sociological and economic stuff that's going on.

He puts up new links fairly often, too. I like the site. It's a very clean site. Just think about history, these people like General Milley testifying saying that we almost lost our Constitution on January 6th and it was almost overturned and there's an insurrection. There's no power in a building. And I want to say if my history serves me correctly, it was 1812. I think it was

9-11. I think it was actually September 11th or close to it in 1812. Could be wrong. But the British came and burned the Capitol building. They burned it. Right. Absolutely. And I saw that piece of General Milley. Yeah. You know, it really blows my mind to see a guy who's involved with one of the largest criminal organizations in the history of human race the u.s military now you can't you can't deny this the upper echelons of the u.s military many of them are war criminals we know this yes you know this really what's that in psychopaths like have you ever had where they wanted to they they had an actual plan to detonate an atomic weapon on the moon to show the russians that that was like that was like a

a pre-operation northwoods yeah there's oh yeah criminals in there absolutely absolutely and and as you know you don't rise to that level that Milley has risen to, to leave preposition dangling, without being a brown noser. You know, you play favorites. The only way you get into that level is being political. I mean, that's how Colin Powell did it. That's the way it works. It's political, has nothing to do with how good you are, what a good soldier you are, how respected you are among the people under you. That's got nothing to do with it. It's all politics. And Milley is a giant political pustule, that man.

He is a foul, obnoxious war criminal himself. to say this sort of stuff, to quote the constitution when he has gone out and engaged in military affairs, when there has been no declaration of war, that's the end of the conversation right there. It's illegal. Absolutely. There's no, it's illegal. Yeah. There's, you know, in every one of these instances, Tony, it's a punctuation mark. You just say, is there a declaration of war? Okay, we're done. You shut up. I'm done with you. You can't say, oh, the War Powers Act. The War Powers Act is a statute, not an amendment to the constitution. You don't swear oaths to statutes that are unconstitutional. You don't swear oaths to take or give orders that are unconstitutional. That's why Chelsea Manning shouldn't have been put in prison.

I mean, it's amazing how perverse this is. And, you know, Milley's seen as some admirable figure, and he can get away with stuff like that. It's incredible. It blows my mind. Tony, I wanted to mention to you, you know, with this revelation about what's going on in Ukraine and how the Donbass, these cities in Donbass, they're bombing the very people that they claim they care about so much. Sounds familiar. Yeah, it certainly does. And back and forth goes, it was Russia that engaged in this phase of this aggression. Get it. But this is not the first phase of aggression. So if we go back, yeah, and we see the United States involvement in Ukraine, has anybody asked General Milley any questions about this? Has anybody asked General Milley any questions about this? Has anybody asked General Milley? Hey, General Milley, by the way, there's video of a Ukrainian late teen,

early 20s kid having been captured by the Russians, openly testifying about U.S. lieutenants on the ground in Ukraine. We've got footage of Joe Biden openly speaking to members of the 101st Airborne in Poland saying, some of you have already been there. Ukraine. Why isn't Milley called to task to talk about this? They're never going to talk about it. And I don't think Rand Paul's going to talk about it. Of course, I don't understand. No, neither party or part of the power structure is opposing this conflict. That's where their bread is butter. The military industrial complex, the contractors, they need it.

It's the continuity of power. Oh, yeah. People don't realize where we are. I remember being in Afghanistan, this early part of the war, and one of the National Guard troops from North Carolina that came to support us as a military police support unit, and it was just a bunch of civilians that had been military at one time. And one of those guys was a former Navy SEAL. They called him old man because he'd been in the Navy SEAL back in the eighties. And he's, we were talking one time, uh, late in the Kandahar airspace. He goes, yeah, I was here back in 88 and he'd been there fighting the Soviets and training the

Musha Hadeen back in the 1980s. And, remember talking to SF soldiers there all of when I flew around Afghanistan, I was security for General Tommy Franks for a day. And we flew around to all the major bases. And I was talking to some SF guys and they said, oh, yeah, we were here in 97. You know, again, it's all over the place. People don't realize where we are and these undeclared wars unconstitutional conflicts um you know we're not again they go back to the gulf of tonkin that that uh that was staged and lbj used that to get authorization

uh to basically become a wartime president without a declaration of war. Harry Truman did something very similar with Korea. He called it a police action. And he was able to maneuver around what we had normally done because people don't realize the last war that was World War II. Right. And now they just have a war declared on the American people. Actually, all governments against their people at this point. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it is.

And, you know, Tony, there are a couple of things I wanted to bring up. I sent these over to you as well. There's that story about Boston University coming out of the Daily Mail and how they have been continuing to conduct gain-of-function research. But also, there's a story I sent it over to you. So I'm going to go over to my email and you'll probably see it. I'm just going to go to my sent items and I might ask you to share my screen in just a minute. Yeah. You want me to put it up on the screen? You have an article that one of the articles you want up? Yeah, sure. It's the extreme cold may trigger from activist post Tyler Durden. So I've got this on my screen if anything like that. But –

Are you talking about the Boston – Extreme cold. Yeah. It's not the BU one. It's the third one down in the email. Oh, extreme cold. I got you. Yeah, extreme cold.

Yeah, with the blackout. I was going to play the damn wait for the blackout, but – Here, I'll put it up. Put it up on the – Yeah. Oh, thank you so much. Awesome. Awesome.

You know, it's funny. I was just sitting here. I was like, oh man, I'm getting over this cold and occasionally I'm getting a hankering for stuff now. I'm like, I want some bacon and I want some pancakes. I don't know. I'll take you out for bacon and pancakes sometime soon, man. So extreme cold may trigger. You talk about a war, a war against us. Extreme cold may trigger power blackouts across New England. Last month, we informed readers New England's power crisis set to return. Fast forward to today as U.S. Northeast temperatures steadily decline as heating demand increases. New England power producers warn grid strains are inevitable as natural gas supplies tighten. New England consists of six states, Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire. So I'm in New Hampshire, then there's

Rhode Island and Vermont. Vermont is really more part of the old Soviet Union, so we don't really consider it part of New England. But anyway, so we've been aware of this for a while, Tony. And and, you know, you can pull it off screen, go back to us if you want to. But thank you so much for doing that. And the thing that gets me is this is a battle, this war against us. It's been going on for a long time. It's just been very subtle. And unfortunately, people have become used to, and they don't recognize that some of these terms that they use in everyday parlance are actually terms of war against them. So when they talk about, oh, say the energy company, our energy company is called Eversource. We call it Neversource here because they're not reliable.

They're at war with us. Why? Because, and it's not just Neversource, because the state of New Hampshire is at war with us. They are partnered with the state of New Hampshire. They have special favors from the state of New Hampshire. They have gotten the state of New Hampshire to threaten us if we want to go anywhere else to get electric power. We had basically almost two weeks without power in 2000. It was basically around 2008, I believe it was. People were dying of the cold here. Old people. It was amazing. There was one day where it finally, we had no power for so long that temperatures suddenly shot up for an afternoon towards 60 degrees. It was warmer outside the

house. You would open the windows to let the warm air in. It was December of 2008. Now, if we had, many people had generators. If I had had a generator and my neighbor said, if I had a spare generator, my neighbor said, oh yeah, we really could use a generator. Could you help us hook it up? Like, yeah, no problem. And they're like, yeah, but you know, we're actually afraid. Could you run it on your property and just put the lines over the property line? That would have been illegal because then we would have been engaging as a power company. We would have been sharing power with people. And this is why it was so great to talk to Eric about this as well, and now talking to you.

Because these are revelations of the method. These revelations of the method are that they tip their hat to us about their future engagements of even more intense encroachments of our liberty. But the encroachments of our liberties have been going on for decades, but people accept them. They've got to stop accepting them. Regulations are war against you. They're threats. It's gangsterism. That's all it is. It's not protection. You can protect yourself. You look at electric cables, right? And you know this, electric cables. The federal government is not involved in checking the quality of electric cables. That's done through a private, basically a conglomerate of interests that get together and check them out. You'll never get an electric cable that doesn't have the stamp, the UL stamp on it. But that isn't government.

The magazine Consumer Reports was not created by the government. You don't go to a restaurant based on the recommendations of the government. Massachusetts, the restaurant inspectors, they're supposedly going around and checking restaurants to protect people against their own choices and going and getting food, right? Because people are just too dumb to figure out whether or not they should eat at a particular restaurant. So what do they find? They find that at any given time in the entire state of Massachusetts, this is around 2007, came out in the Boston Herald, there were two and a half restaurant inspectors working for the entire state. And then they found out

one of them was on the take and he was being paid by the restaurateurs to give him passes. So whom are you going to trust? You can't change it. You think they got less money or more money after that? They got more money because, of course, they needed more money to fix the problem. Now, if that were a private restaurant quality inspection place, if underwriters laboratories for electric cables was found to have been corrupt, people wouldn't use them anymore, right? They'd go someplace else. It's just like the money. They have been waging war against us with the dollar, not just since the creation of the Federal Reserve, but since the creation of this country.

They have been waging war against us. They've been ripping us off. And they're not stopping. So, and this, people ask me, why are you so interested in politics? It's like, because politics is interested in us. Right. The politicians won't leave us alone. And we've got to defend ourselves.

Exactly. This is like, you know, this is why I was really glad I got into punk rock, because I would just throw myself down in the middle of the mosh pit. We're in the mosh pit. You've got to fight back. You're elbowing people around you, and it doesn't matter. That's the way it's going to work. And you know, cause you're in the military, you know how these things operate. You know how certain people can get along if they just butter and you know, the quality people stay away from the evils. And, and luckily, you know, I'm sure most of the people you met were

quality people, but you recognized immediately the people who were not quality. And the people who aren't quality are the ones who are popularly in political offices. Anyway, I just had to say that. We called General Petraeus, Betraeus. That's General Petraeus. Yeah. And again, there's so much to be said about the slow cook, like the revelation of the method and how our growth as human beings has been stunted by government. It reminds me, have you ever heard that joke that Ronald Reagan used to tell about the Soviet commissar who went and inspected the potato farm? And this commissar goes out because inspected the potato farm. And this is, this Commissar goes out cause it's all central top down planning. You have to inspect the farm to make sure the farmer's doing what it's the farmer's supposed to do and then have a crop yield.

And so they, the Soviet Commissar goes out to talk to the potato farmer, the potato farmer shows up and Commissar says, I want to know, you know, about your, your crop yield. How many,

what are we looking at? How large is the crop? And he says, very well. He's like, no, give me numbers. Give me figures. And he says, well, Commissar, with so many potatoes, we could stack them to God. And the Commissar says, this is the Soviet Union. There is no God. And the farmer says, good, because there's no potatoes either. Right? is no God. And the farmer says, good, because there's no potatoes either. Right. So that's, that's central planning in a nutshell. You know, they, they become God themselves, but they're incompetent. I was, I was kind of surprised because only 50% of the inspectors were on the take on that deal and the food inspections. But, you know, you look at, I saw a meme yesterday.

I can't forget. I mean, it was on Instagram, but it talked about if you take a jar and fill it with fleas and put the lid on it and leave it there, I think for like a week, you know, as long as they have oxygen, but the lid is on the jar. About a week later, you can take the lid off and the fleas won't jump out. As a matter of fact, you can take the lid off and the fleas won't jump out as a matter of fact you can take the lid off entirely and their offspring also won't jump out it's because they have that learned this is what i again i'm just i'm just it may not be true but it i think

it serves to to make a point here we don't realize that the ceiling that's been put on us is because i look at our our. I think we're, people have called this the, what the stunted century, because we were supposed to be advancing when we didn't. Yeah. We have the tech, we have surveillance technology brought to you in part by DARPA, where you can take pictures of your food and then they monitor everything.

You do. If you want to talk about social media as a giant leap forward. But that's pretty much it. We haven't really advanced. And then you have these unhinged criminals. I mean, we should do a raid. There should be agents arresting the people that are creating gain of function with viruses unauthorized. By the way, none of it should ever be authorized exactly exactly but they're doing this in the in the private sector i'm sure with government money because these universities

are extensions of that we we know that the beast has its has its claws everywhere but you know that story is so alarming but people will shrug it off all that you know that's the smart set they're gonna they've done so well with the scientific community. Trust the science. They've done so well at pushing us forward and guarding civilization. So I'm alarmed. All this stuff's going on at once. Does it seem to you like it's uh like this is a big reveal it's like the that's what the apocalypse really means is unveiling i mean it's like one thing after another and corruption and then you know again we have the threats of of the geopolitical shake up i mean um the one thing that we can count on this time is change and i hope uh that i'm wrong about where it changes into

well you know uh with each of the news stories that pops up that you and I notice and that the audience might notice or send over to me or to you or, you know, we'll see some of our friends posting things on Twitter. You say to yourself, there's a great cadre of people who are, you know, we've got the wagon circled and they've, you know, they're looking out beyond the wagons in that great, great circle and we're guarding each other. And I really I feel very comfortable with that. But there are so many vectors. I mean, it's very interesting. You know, we had a great conversation yesterday. I wanted to pick up on one of the things you were bringing up that I sort of neglected to sort of do the payoff on yesterday.

I wanted to mention that uh to you here in the air tony and and to the audience as well there was uh we had a startup of something that tony had brought up that i want to bring up as well but you talk about these attacks on people and you had brought up immigration and um the uh essentially you know the replacement immigration uh terminology that the left left says is just some terrible white supremacist conspiracy theory thing. It's like, well, no, actually, this is a policy. We have seen left wing people talking about the benefits of bringing in that, bringing in certain types of people who will become Democrat voters. That has been part of

the Democrat plan. So if you're going to accuse anybody of racism, look in the mirror, okay? So, and it is this sort of thing where it's, there are attacks, not only on the economy that make us have to work harder, as Eric discussed, and, you know, getting rid of fossil fuels and all these different types of things, blocking foreign goods, all that, but also on culture. And do you think, Tony, I've long thought about this. You know, we talk about small areas of control. I think cultural consistency and neighborliness and being recognized as a good person in one's neighbor's eyes really work best if you're in a small community. Over generations, families staying in generations, respect for your parents, respect for those people. And I understand if people want to move around and live in other places and resettle in places and go on great adventures, that is beneficial as well.

But I think that there is something to be said about the glue that holds people together. And there's a really good book called The Tragedy of American Compassion by Marvin Alasky, where he talks about essentially what de Tocqueville discussed, where, you know, civic nature and local help is something that is a real positive for people. You look at some of the civic groups like the Odd Fellows and the Rotary and the Lions Club and the 4-H. And they were people who just lived near each other. And they recognized that when something bad happened to their neighbor, and they all got together and they helped that person out, that person reciprocated, and it felt good. It was Christian charity. Do you think that the United States, in a way,

has always been, especially with Hamilton, centralized things much more? Just the very sheer size of the United States has sort of doomed it to fail culturally, that there has been an inability for the United States to retain its culture as it has expanded and brought in more cultural aspects? Or do you think that there could be one common theme that could actually glue many of these different cultures together, whether it's the Native American culture or the Northeastern culture, and that could be a theme of freedom? And I don't want to drop ideas into your head. And then how that translates to what you were talking about before with the immigration thing, this replacement immigration policy. I think the problem with the United States is not so much that it's too big geographically to be a republic. I think the problem and where you start to see the erosion of what was intended for our country to be was when we became an empire.

When we went outside of our borders in search of monsters to destroy, you know, we started taking territory like the Philippines. And we had President Taft saying, well, these are my my brown brothers, my little brown brothers or whatever. I mean, this is like these are this paternal, even, you know, dominating instinct. And that wasn't something that was done lightly. If you go back to the Spanish-American War, William McKinley was the last Civil War veteran as a president. He'd seen, you know, a terrible slaughter on the battlefield and he almost had a nervous breakdown because the the his cabinet and officials were pressing him so hard to declare war on spain and go you know and take cuba and go to guam and the philippines and all the

rest and and knock out the the decaying you know uh spanish fleet that was hanging on to its its broken empire so yeah he he really did have a conscience about it. And then eventually he turned and of course, Teddy Roosevelt building the great white fleet and Panama Canal and all the rest. And you start to see, I had a history professor when I studied philosophy at the University of Dallas for a couple of years as a former soldier, and I was running a real estate company. It was funny because I was around all these kids, but it was a really expensive book club, but it's a great school. And the history professor did this whole breakdown on the Spanish-American War and our involvement in the Philippines andines and taking out the spanish fleet and and uh manila harbor and and she said what did you think about uh my lesson at the end of the lesson she

said what do you think about that tony and i said well i liked everything about it until they we took the philippines and uh she said well well you know there was a span there was a german fleet that was going to take it uh if we didn't And I said, well, that would have been good because it would have been them on Corregidor and on the Bataan Death March then. Nice. And so she goes, you know, you're really different. She loved calling on me because I'd always have something,

because I was self-taught. I read history while I was living through it and and afghanistan and iraq but i think the problem with what we have is you know you you talk about cecil roads and the round table and how the british empire in so many ways reabsorbed us through these supranational entities like the council on foreign relations and international banking and once we had a central bank at the Federal Reserve, it started to strangle us like a boa constrictor. So all the liberty strangled. We've become something else. So I would say that there's two Americas. There's the American Republic and there's the American Empire.

And those two things really can't coincide and be together. I think the republic is with us, the people that are not in power, and the empire is all the people that are in power. That's where we are now. We are two countries. And politics is a sideshow, as you know. I mean, we're going to have an election pretty soon, and I'm not voting because I have no one to vote for. On the local level. I've looked at a few things. I might go vote for the local, but I don't care if there's a red wave. I think there's a red wave regardless because it's called communism and we're experiencing. But, you know, demographics, demography is destiny guard. I mean, Will Durant wrote that. That's just history 101.

And I've said many, many times on my show, you can fast forward 50 years from now, Mexico will be Mexico, Japan will be Japan, China will be China. What will we be? They have a cohesive central culture. Yeah, they have different dialects and different faiths and offshoots of that,

but basically one people. Diversity is not a strength. It just isn't. If you don't have a cohesive culture and a cohesive way to work together, because again, nations are people, their history, their heroes, their tradition. It's the land that you're on, which you refer to as blood and soil, whatever you want to call it. That's what makes a country. But what our planners and the people that rule over us say is that America is a notion, not a nation. It's an idea yeah that's not true there is no there's no example of an idea right that that it survived anything i mean the soviet union was an idea right it was an idea really bad idea it was held together by us you know a top-down central government it was totalitarian and once they weakened a little bit it broke into 16 pieces through a phenomenon called ethno-nationalism. Because there were cultural differences. Exactly.

Exactly. Cultural, multiracial. This is people go to like. It's just human nature. Now, you can have different cultures and you can have it, but there has to be some unifying thing. There has to be a homogeneous center. And we just, we're losing that. I mean, Joe Biden celebrates, he says, you know, somebody told him like, the population of European descent in the United States, native born or white, whatever you want

to call it, is declining. He goes, we should celebrate that. Can you imagine going to Japan and being like, hey, we're losing, you know, 20% of the population and we're going to bring in some other people from somewhere else. And isn't it good that're probably very sincere and they're, you know, probably fine folks in many ways, but they just don't understand storytelling with this Rings of Power TV show. And, you know, I love Nerd Roddick. Gary Bigler is terrific on YouTube. Gary's a great guy and really into punk rock and stuff like that. Loved Doctor Who, hates Doctor Who now, used to love Star Trek, hates Star Trek now, and he's a big fan of Lord of the Rings. He understands the Christian parable part of it. He understands Tolkien's belief in smaller government or no government at all, recognition of the traditions of common law, ancient British traditions, and the British culture. And so Amazon got the license to do

these stories in the Rings of Power based on an appendix that Tolkien wrote and some of the prequel stuff that Tolkien wrote, but not on the Lord of the Rings trilogy. And so they put out this show and it's just incredibly woke and they've got things in it that aren't right. They've got things with like elves. I think they've got like a black skinned elf, you know, and it's like, look. By introducing things that are not part and they say, oh, one guy's like, oh, it's so wonderful. Now we're going to get representation, you know, and it's like weird. What do you mean you're going to get this is fiction. This is a story that this guy created. If you don't like it, then don't deal with it.

But this is the way the elves are set up. They're blonde haired. They have tippy ears and they're fair skinned. There you go. That's what they are. They're pale. You know, so so the very fact that you're trying to break them up doesn't mean that you're standing for inclusiveness and respect for differences.

It means you're not respecting differences. That's the point. And it's like, they don't seem to understand that in their insufferable, hard on their sleeves attitude, that everything's got to be broken down in order to respect people. They're not respecting the integrity of people. It just is so stupid. And so they do this. They've got the dwarves. The dwarf women are all supposed to have beards. Well, this woman doesn't have a

beard and she's a dark black skin dwarf. And it's just everything they're doing here. They've got a character who is a woman who showed no sign of being a warrior in the Tolkien mythology, but now they're showing her as a young woman and of course she's a warrior why because they want to attract female viewers you know and it's like ladies stop watching oprah and stop getting suckered by this nonsense you know and guys stop getting suckered by hot looking women i'm glad that you're covering pop culture because I tuned out a while ago. I watch old things like I can only live in the past. Like there's a certain cutoff point where I'm just like, no, it's going to be political.

And I don't like politics. It's funny. We have to talk about politics just like we have to talk about war because it's interested in us. That's exactly it. I don't want to be involved in politics, but we have to. I'll give you another example. I was chatting with a family member one time. And I tried to tell people a while ago, I was like, look around you. See if there's anything around you that the state has not touched. You won't find anything. From the size of signs, to the paint that's on the signs, to the ground in which the sign has been planted, to the place where you're walking, to the sky above you, to everything around you. Nothing has been not touched by the state and by politicians

encroaching on people. So I'm hanging out with this family member and she happens to talk about how somebody else in her family has some kids and these girls are now identifying as, uh, I don't know, non-binary or like male or something. And they're girls, like there's a girl, she's female. And she's like, ah, you know, they keep doing this in the schools and all this stuff. And, um, so, and so then my, I think it was my sister, uh, happened to bring up, it's like, well, you know, you've got this Katonji Jackson now can't tell the difference between a man or a woman when she's testifying in front of the Senate. And she's like, oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. So then I say, yeah, you know, and that's pretty ridiculous. I mean, that immediately meant that she shouldn't have been considered for the Supreme Court.

And so this other person says, why? And I was like, you know, so we're talking about the wokeism and you can't tell the difference between a man and a woman and all this stuff. So my sister says this about Katonji Jackson. And this other person says, well, why shouldn't she sit on the Supreme Court? It's like, because she can't hear Title IX cases. And she's like, what do you mean? And I was like, you know, Title IX. She didn't know what Title IX was.

And I was like, do you vote? And she's like, well, yeah. And I was like, you're talking about the Supreme Court. You're familiar with Katonji Jackson. She's like, yeah. I was like, you don't know Title IX. She goes, oh. So she talks to my sister. She goes, uh-oh. She goes, oh boy. Oh no. And I was like, what?

I was like, you brought it up. I was like, Title IX means it's about men and women and the sports teams. And the federal government is trying to force everybody to have the equal number, even though men's sports attract more money and eyes and attention. So she was frustrated because I was willing to explain to her something about which she was ignorant. And I don't vote, but she's willing to vote on stuff that will affect my life. And she doesn't know what she's talking about. And this happens all the time. Libertarians, as you know, libertarians run into this all the time. And conservatives probably to a certain extent as well. They run into people, you'll say things and they don't know what you're talking about, but you're not the one who's voting. They're the ones who are voting to make your life worse. And it's like, look, you know what I always thought would be kind of fun would be to say,

okay, politicians, we're going to have joint and several liability for politicians. All politicians will be liable for the bad things that happen. Not even the money that's extracted from people. It'll just be the effects of their policies. We won't even look into the theft of taxation. You will be held responsible for the bills that you support that have negative consequences on people. And for all voters, your name will be on a ballot and it will show whether you supported those people. Now you're part of a corporate entity and you're not going to get liability protection. See who they vote for. See how many times people would vote. See how many bills would be passed. Zip, right? It'd be great,

but that's not going to happen because the state's got basically qualified immunity. And by the way, I just saw, I think it was Reason Magazine, there's a court case that once more, police have had their qualified immunity reaffirmed as they basically shot to death a guy who hadn't done anything wrong. I think it was out in Colorado. Unbelievable. That's pretty typical now. colorado that's unbelievable pretty typical now you know yeah that's for sure i produced uh the show for don jeffries uh a couple weeks ago and he had

ashley babbitt's mom on the show and uh you know i mean my heart breaks for for victims of police violence like that especially in the capital like the way it was is pure murder. And I had to study the rules of engagement in combat where you're getting grenades thrown at you and shot at, and you know, there's IEDs around every corner and you're marked for death. But if you open fire on somebody, you're going to, without, without provocation, they don't have something in their hand and they're shooting at you?

You realize you're done, right? I mean, we had investigations into people, into soldiers who lit off some rounds because mortar fire was coming in. So they shot into the field on guard duty and just was trying to, you know, just draw fire. And I remember they got uh up and down investigated put through the ringer just for putting off a few rounds didn't hurt anybody and they were getting shot at so i mean you fast forward and look at 2021 on january 6th the day that you know

we almost talked yeah pierce truck told me that it was like 9-11. I mean, come on. And, you know, Peter, that's another thing about that group of people. Like, it's the same thing. You found that spirit in, like, the Lieutenant Colonel Vindman guy. Peter Strzok was an Army officer as well. Yeah. And, you know, you link me to the military.

It's funny. Cause I have none of that left in me. Like I, I'm not a good, I don't obey. I didn't really obey. Well then it's funny because like a lot of the upper echelon, like me when I was in the army,

like, but it stopped at like Lieutenant Colonel. Right. And those are, those are my people. Like they're like, Oh, that,

that guy's different. You know, let's, I'll have him be my driver or something. And they recognize that in me. And it was an honor because some of the people I served in, they're no longer there. It's a completely different military. I wouldn't fit in very well.

I wouldn't be doing well. The stuff that you were talking about today, we're in for massive change. Yeah. Tony, I know that we only have a few minutes left in the program. And right now I did want to mention that it appears that U.S. weapons have been used by Ukraine to shell inside Russia. Russia responded by knocking out power stations in Kiev. 580 cities are without power in Ukraine right now. That is direct hot conflict. In New Hampshire, it's much softer, but the conflict has been upon us for decades because they have seized control and now we could be without power for who knows how long.

It's up to them because rolling blackouts could be necessary. Thanks to a lack of natural gas, thanks to the United States government at this time suppressing our ability to get it, thanks to decades of the U.S. government claiming power over our freedom to be able to get a thing, period. That's it. They are aggressors. They are engaging in war against us. And one of the key things in philosophy is the concept of the state of nature and the state of war. And this is in the Declaration of Independence. When usurpations have come along this much, a long train of usurpations, you can recognize them as being not accidental. They are being directed. Therefore, the state itself is in a state of war against you. I would say that the state is always in a state of war against you because it can only derive its income from threatening you. So they have been in a state of war against us from the start. And they have slowly added these problems. Tony, I'm curious, and I know that I don't want this to sound like a promotional thing,

but I want to talk just briefly as we finish off here. Talk about what you've been doing yourself as you see these stories. Talk about what you do on the air and talk about Wise Wolf. Talk about and tell people how they can hear what you have to discuss, whether it be on Rockfin, on America Unplugged, Ardburn Radio Transmission, or on Worldwide Christian Radio, or whether it's through the Wolfpack and directly dealing with you and people getting prepared so that they can try to escape some of this and deal with people who are good people. Sure. Well, I'll be real brief. Arterburn.news is my website. You can find pretty much all of

my shows. And then I'm a co-host of America Unplugged here on Rockfin on the America Unplugged channel every Saturday with Don Jeffries and Billy Ray Valentine. We break down the news of the week. And it's a great honor to be on that panel. At the end of the day, what I'm trying to do is prepare for changes in reality, changes in the financial system, in society itself, in what we normally see bias.

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here. I'll be back tomorrow. Last show, and I'm going to have you on for sure. We'll probably open up the phone lines uh and that's going to be uh the last show before david comes back and i know everybody's looking forward to that uh and let's see if today guard let's see if i can do right on time let's get the outro again here we go okay and thanks again tony i've been pretty intense today too i must be feeling better yeah yeah thanks so much man and and to everybody in the rockfin chat jason laurie everybody thanks so much really

appreciate it you know it's weird like i was the host today and you came on as the guest so we'll be flipping over tomorrow thanks so much for watching everybody tony i'll leave it up to you i salute you take care Thanks so much for watching everybody. Tony, I'll leave it up to you. I salute you. Thank you so much. Take care. uh is Thank you. Insult