The David Knight Show - 19Oct22 Will The Dollar Hit Zero? Gold Goes East

Episode Date: October 19, 2022

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Visit een-ireland.com and take your business global today. Using free speech to free minds. You're listening to The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Wednesday, the 19th of October, year of our Lord, 2022. Day 949 of the emergency. Thank you. Well, I'm Tony Arterburn. I'm filling in for the great David Knight. Final day. David will be back tomorrow. I'm joined in studio by my hound dog, Beans the Brave. She's going to run security

for us today against woodland creatures, intruders, bad vibes, all that good stuff here at the wise wolf, gold and silver.com studios. I remember reading when I was a kid that if, um, the, uh, air force pilots, fighter pilots, if they had too much G force, they'd pass out and they would have voices in the, um, in their helmets and they had to use female voices. That would be the most effective to like wake them up. And I think if I'm ever in that situation,

just play the David Knight theme song, wake up for some reason, even if I'm drinking coffee, even if I'm, I'm, you know, getting here mentally prepared as soon as that theme song comes on when I'm filling in for David and it never,

ever fails to do so. I want to thank David and it never ever fails to do so. I want to thank David and Travis. It's been almost three years becoming up three years next month since Travis took a chance on me for a full guest hosting. I'd been a guest on the David Knight show before because I'd been a frequent guest on InfoWars and Travis took a chance on me and David liked it. And it's been a magnificent ride through history, a great honor. And I'm looking forward to David being back.

I know all of you are. And we're going to have a great show today. I've got Charlie Robinson, my good friend, the hardest working man in alternative media, will be here on the second hour, the author of The Octopus of Global Control and the Controlled Demolition of the American Empire. Second hour, Charlie Robinson. Third hour, the legendary Don Jeffries will be here. Maybe a mystery guest. We'll see.

We'll see if she'll pop in. And Guard Goldsmith in the third hour. And, of course, anytime I can get to the chat, I will go there on Rockfin. I appreciate everybody on Rockfin and all your support, all the kind words and people have been reaching out and, you know, calling me and texting me and, you know, giving their insight on the show. I really appreciate it. And we've got enough headlines to, at least for this first hour, we can, I don't, I don't think I can get to everything in the first hour. And I've got questions for my guests that will be coming up. But let's go straight into the headlines of Drudge, which is kind of a fail-safe, kind of a go-to.

Not that I like Drudge, but you use the maxim of Sun Tzu. You know your enemy. Well, they have the headline up here. It's Putin declares martial law in annexed regions. And I laughed when I saw that this morning because I thought, you have martial law during annexed regions. And I laughed when I saw that this morning, because I thought, you have martial law during a war? Is that news? Is martial law during an occupation or there's a massive military conflict going on in your region? You have some martial law? Okay, well, news flash there., but, uh, at least

there's nothing flashing red across the screen. That's what I fear. Like it, I've been going on somewhat of a diet on, uh, the news coverage that I'll, that I'll look at and how often I look at it because I do, you know, I do deep dives and read articles and all the rest, but I've been making sure that I don't constantly look at the headlines because they're, you know, again, there's, it's for effect and it's a psyop, but you don't know which psyops going on. Well, I wanted, there's a couple of odd stories that I wanted to get to. And one of them was a link on drudge. I won't spend a lot of time on it because there's, there's another one I want to get to. They're not related, but they're two very odd stories. I don't know what they mean i'm throwing them to them to

you the audience to uh to decide for yourself but this was a link on drudge to see if it'll even pull up but it was on uh i might not be well i got it okay so it's it's a link through vice.com it was on drudge what i want to read the headline here It's libraries are beefing up security after a series of violent threats. And that's libraries plural. So some libraries are trying to protect patrons without increasing the presence of police and security guards. And when you read on, it talks about like a systemic wide threat to libraries. And I thought, okay, let's, let's, let's, let's look at this and see what this really is saying.

And I don't know, I read the article and I thought, uh, that's a weird phenomenon. I've never heard of that. One of my favorite places to go. And I haven't been in a long time as a library. I used to spend, especially when I was really broke and looking between businesses or just trying to find the next idea. I spent a lot of time in libraries. It says in September, library systems in Hawaii, Utah, Colorado, Texas, Tennessee, Massachusetts, and other states were forced to temporarily close after receiving shooting and bomb threats. While the threats were ultimately determined to be non-credible, the unusual pattern of incidents has left library workers reconsidering their safety on the job and wondering how to respond in the future. Well, again, how is there a pattern of threats to

libraries and why is that? The threats come at a time when libraries have become an unwitting political battleground from book bans to anti-LGBTQ harassment by far-right groups. I love how Vice throws that in there. The American Library Association, the ALA, asked FBI Director Christopher Wray to investigate whether there is any connection between the recent threats, but little remains known on whether the events are part of a coordinated effort to disrupt services. But you're talking about across state lines, like through all over the country. Something very strange here. Responses to these threats have varied widely from closing facilities and alerting the public to maintaining normal operations and letting all staff know days later.

Some library workers worry that there seems to be little to no consensus on how libraries are supposed to handle violent threats made against them. You know, one of the last refuges in the modern era is the library. You know, the books. Once you have a book, they can burn books. But if a book exists, it's kind of hard to scrub that. If you don't destroy the book, it still exists. It's not like a website. You can't memory hole that. And, you know, again, we live in an age where we have the kings and emperors would have killed for the amount of knowledge that we have.

And they would have envied even the lowliest among us who can have access to all this stuff. But, you know, one thing I noticed when I was in my tours in the Middle East and other parts of the world, but especially the Middle East were no bookstores there were no i couldn't find it there were some libraries but not many i mean and it wasn't anything like we have in this country it's like i read the headline and i thought well you know you could uh effectively control a lot of narrative. There's still a great amount of information in libraries. There's still a lot of research. There's old books. Again, it's history. What does Solzhenitsyn say? If you want to destroy a people, first sever their roots. The Bible says it too, about for lack of knowledge, my people perish. Well, just something I wanted to bring that to your attention. I don't know what it means. They're trying to figure out how to take care of these threat assessments

against libraries, but again, it looks like it's a coordinated thing over many, many states. It's the same kind of threat, which is odd. I don't know if this is part part of a, an effort to, you know, make libraries unsafe, you know, not a, not a place that you can go or, or there's a, maybe they can control things better by having online sharing or something. They can better curate those things. But anyway,

the second story that I wanted to bring up that was odd and this just hit about at live score bet we love cheltenham just as much as we love football the excitement the roar and the chance to reward you that's why every day of the festival we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to 10 euro if your horse loses on a selected race. That's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing. Cheltenham with LiveScore Bet. This is total betting. Sign up by 2pm 14th of March. Bet within 48 hours of race.

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but we'll file both of these stories starting off the David Knight show here on Wednesday as odd and something to ponder. A mysterious GPS disruption spread in Texas near Fort Hood. Of course, Fort Hood is near Killeen. That's where I, my 1999 state powerlifting championship was at Fort Hood. I remember it well. GPS interference in Texas has spread from Dallas-Fort Worth metropolitan area

to now east and west regions of Waco. One area west of Waco with high levels of GPS interference is butting up against America's third largest military base, Fort Hood. It is a very large military base. One Twitter user said, can't wait until someone figures out the source. Well, you know, somebody's jamming the GPS surrounding in and of a Fort Hood. So I assume it's probably an adversary or we're running some kind of drill or something like that. I don't know.

It seems that something similar is happening in Denver in January, which unfortunately is before this was being mapped by this other individual for the GPS. The last 24 hours of GPS interference around Dallas, and it shows a map of kind of this coordinated red dead zone. GPS interference is being reported around Dallas-Fort Worth metropolitan area airports. According to the Federal Aviation Administration, the first reports of signal degradation occurred about 24 hours ago. Significant GPS interference being reported by pilots in the Dallas area, aircraft being rerouted onto non-RNAV arrivals. The flight tracking website ADS-B Exchange first reported Monday afternoon. Bloomberg said the runway at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport has been closed after aviation authority says GPS signals there aren't reliable.

The FAA said it was investigating GPS signal degradation in the metro area and looking closely to see if this could be due to possible jamming of the global positioning system. Do you think so? So far, the FAA has found no evidence of international or intentional interference and airlines have yet to report major disruptions yeah but it's made the news all the games that

are played there's so many things happening in our world right now you know and our military has been our defense systems just from the sheer amount of psychological operations being um hoisted on our military and then of course uh the war on the warrior class itself uh we're definitely not prepared and i, I'm somebody who looks at, um, foreign threats and kind of says, well, uh, the, the greater threats are internal, but there still are, you know, clear and present dangers that we have to worry about. There's still adversaries. Unfortunately, we cause most of those, uh, and we continue to keep those adversaries irritated on purpose while we simultaneously dismantle our own defenses.

So you figure that one out, ladies and gentlemen. Well, those are the two weird stories. You guys can look into that, and maybe I'll ask my guests later today what they might think about those two things. I don't think they go together. I don't think they're related, but we'll just chalk that up to unknown as we go through the headlines. I wanted to talk a little bit about finance today. There's so much happening.

It doesn't appear that so much is happening because things are pretty much stable. The markets are not tanking. Thank God. I don't want them to because it hurts a lot of people. October has generally been, throughout history, has been a very bad month for markets. 1907, market crash, October. 1929, market crash, October. 1987, market crash, October. The same thing, 2008, going into the Great Recession. So there's a, and again, it has to do with the end of fiscal year, accounting, and a lot of the people in the know, as we've seen throughout history. At the time, people are like, wow,

they're just mystified that somebody was able to predict or, you know, pull out their funds before the market crashed. But there are a lot of times are cashing out or, or writing off losses. That's what happens in the end of the fiscal year. They'll just dump it into the laps of the everyday person. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football, the excitement, the the roar and the chance to reward you that's why every day of the festival we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to 10 euro if your horse loses on a selected race that's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing cheltenham with live score bet this is total betting sign up by 2 p.m 14th of march

bet within 48 hours of race main market excluding specials and place bets terms apply bet responsibly This is Total Betting. So there's a lot going on behind the scenes. There's an article up on Kitco, I'll see if I can get to, about central banks possibly going bust in a lot of ways, the European central banks especially, and the related banks in that periphery. of of news developments like gold telegraph on twitter was talking about how and david and i were talking about a couple weeks ago how uh the brics nations are going to add saudi arabia supposedly and that'll make it to the bricks is but they're going to add again the brics nations make up 40 of the earth's population but if you add in all of the other satellites and nations that they're talking to there's a new economic world order on the horizon. It's 90% if you add in all these other countries combined. People forget the United States is only about 5% of the world's population.

But in 1950, after World War II, we had 50% of the world's wealth. We're 5% of the world's population, had over 50% of the world's wealth. And since that time, you've seen the dissipation. And of course, a lot of that was on purpose. We dismantled our manufacturing. We went off the gold standard. You guys have seen the effects of that. And that was a transfer of wealth. But again, that hegemonic dominance of the dollar, it can only go so far. And looking at the geopolitical situation, it appears that the planners behind really what drives the empire and vice versa. So they need war.

They need war. They need to be able to place heavy sanctions and, and of course, saber rattle and all the rest to keep that dominating Ponzi scheme going. It's unfortunate. I don't want it to be that way, but that's the way it was set up. You know, we had Breton Woods in 1944. Gold was, and the dollar was $35 an ounce for an ounce of gold. And then you fast forward to 1971.

Nixon takes us off the gold standard. And we left all those countries that had adopted the dollar as their reserve currency as well. We left them holding the bag and then saying, okay, now you keep up. We've devalued the currency. We had to. Those nations like de Gaulle, the leader of France, he sent warships over to pick up his gold. That was a little gesture showing up to the Federal Reserve Bank in New York, picking up that gold. Other countries had realized what we were doing. We started debasing the currency, debasing the coinage, taking the silver out after 1964, which was interesting because Kennedy wanted to keep that in there. Of course, he had signed that

executive order on silver. The same thing, he'd the the silver notes and there was the direct printing of currencies from the treasury the only other president to do that was Lincoln and I'm not really a fan of Lincoln but President Kennedy President Lincoln both had the green green back if you want to put it that way and both were shot in the head in public. So you can do the math on that one. But anyway, we've had a lot of headwind behind this growing money supply over many, many decades. And I'm starting to see the cracks in that. And this is what I'm bringing to people's attention because I think that the emerging nations

that want to compete and get away from the dollar are, I think, getting stronger. And I think those economic disruptions are coming. But I want to talk to you about inflation because this is something that's not going away. Because in order to fight inflation, you'd have to shorten the money supply. And you can't do that when you have to have a giant bloated welfare warfare state. So it's a snake eating its own tail. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy in so many ways because it's going to collapse in and of itself. This is zero hedge. Inflation-driven Social Security increase could lead to more inflation. Social Security recipients will be getting a big raise in 2023.

That's good news if you're receiving benefits from the program, but not so great if you're hoping inflation will abate anytime soon. This, of course, is from Shift Gold. The Social Security Administration announced an 8.7% cost of living adjustment. Cola. I was just talking about this week. I didn't, I didn't know they were going to do this so early that goes on top of a substantial 5.9% Cola for 2022. The 2023 increase is the largest in 40 years. Hmm. I wonder why the COLA will translate to an additional $140 per month for the average social security recipient. The last time social security recipients got a bigger raise was in 1981 when COLA was 11.2%. The increase will add about 100 billion

of spending per year. Just nothing. It's just billions, hundreds of billions. The Social Security Board of Trustees said the fund can pay full benefits through 2035. It has a fund? I don't think it works that way. I think it has a checkbook, and the checkbook is linked to the central bank. That's just me. After that, the board projects the program will be able to pay 80% of benefits. Well, that's interesting. It's kind of like, I feel like when I'm reading that, it's kind of

like the different pharmaceutical companies that we're seeing. We were reading in real time about how they were going to have an effective vaccine. And it was 93% from Moderna. And then I think Pfizer was 95%. And then it kept going. Johnson & Johnson was not, I don't remember exactly. But then the Russians topped everybody with their Sputnik vaccine. It was like 98% or something.

And it's just all made up. It's all in succession, all made up. Let's see. Yeah. A spokesman person for the committee for a responsible federal budget told CNBC that Cola could accelerate the depletion of the trust fund by at least one calendar year. I guess they're still going off the illusion that there's a fund there. It's kind of like the federal reserve is not federal and it doesn't have a reserve. The big cost of living adjustment, COLA, is a direct response to the

ongoing inflation problem. The 8.2% annual increase in September is just one in a long line of CPI prints over the last year. Unfortunately, the COLA increase won't cover all of the missing costs seniors face. No, it won't, because it's not even close to the actual real rate of inflation. You're always behind. The Social Security Administration calculates that COLA, based on other formulas, use the Consumer Price Index for all urban wage earners and clerical workers. Like most government numbers, it doesn't actually reflect the actual cost of living for most retirees. According to calculations done in 2020, Social Security benefits had lost 33% of their buying power since 2000.

This underscores a couple of key points. You can't count on social security to actually secure your comfortable retirement. And you need to plan to protect your wealth from the persistent insidious erosion of inflation. Oh, it is insidious and it's evil. And the people that use it, they're using the central bank. They're using the printing press, they kill people with this. This puts people in a spiral. Every time they go and hit the button to print, that is a direct correlation to people living shorter lives, especially those who are most vulnerable, especially those who try to do the right thing. You know, they paid their taxes and they saved those dollars and they

worked, but then they're on fixed income and you have the central bank need to bail out the government because they can't be fiscally responsible. And they have to bail out their criminal friends on Wall Street because they can't be fiscally responsible. And there's, again, no consequences. Gore Vidal said it best. We have socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the poor in this country. Now, Peter Schiff talked about it during a recent podcast, pointing out that people who receive this additional $100 billion will go out and spend it. In other words, the government will be handing out more money to people who can cope with higher prices. So they can cope, but this will inevitably push prices higher. See how that works? You have higher prices due to the fact that you printed trillions. So you have, again, you finally catch up to the fact that you're going to have to do something

to all these people that you've affected with your inflation. So what do you do? Well, it's kind of like the Inflation Reduction Act. You create more inflation. And I think they did actually, in a Machiavellian way, with the Inflation Reduction Act, I do think that the signal in there was, hey, we're going to do something about inflation. We're just going to kill the economy and make sure no one can produce anything anymore. Here's 87,000 IRS agents. I really do think that was an evil, like genius thing that they're like, oh, well, we're going to, this is really an inflation reduction thing. There'll be no inflation because only, you know, a handful of people will have anything. At LiveScore Bet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football.

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In effect, the extra money will pop up demand and possibly even increase it. High demand without corresponding higher supply inevitably means prices go higher. That will likely be reflected in future CPI data. It says that Social Security faces another problem with the labor force participation rate falling, which, by the way, I'm still not understanding why. I've asked every person I know in economics. No one really knows how to answer that.

Why is there a labor shortage when there's no UBI? I don't know what that means. Does it have something to do with operation warp speed that I'm not aware? I have no idea, but it is odd, isn't it? It has something to do with the one America CEO talking about the mortality rate of people 18 to 64. Something's weird with that yes let's go back to the article says the problem is those young people they're not working and in fact older people are retired earlier and so we had this is again this is the problem your social security is supposed to pay for itself

and you have these country club republicans and neocons and other like, well, we have to import more people so we can put more people on the payrolls to offset those who are retiring because we have an aging population. And again, the problem doesn't fix itself. It gets bigger and bigger and bigger because we have a more and more bloated welfare state. It's not a solution. Article ends with no matter how you slice it, it's clear the Social Security system isn't solvent over the long run.

No, and they've barely touched the amount of cost of living adjustments. For people on social security and it is sad but that's the cold reality of all this no they don't care it's not about that they're going to keep it's like this type of of intervention is like what biden does with the release of the strategic reserves for petroleum it doesn't fix the problem it only placates it only just kicks it down a little further like just keep you from just keep you just over broke right just just keep you just satiated enough not to like mike bloomberg said come after them with the guillotines. All right, folks.

Well, we're going to take a quick break. I'm going to pour some more coffee, check on Beans the Brave, see how security is holding up. I'll check the Rockfin chat. And, of course, we've got Charlie Robinson who's going to join us here in about 30 minutes. I always love talking to Charlie. Smart, smart guy.

He's got the podcast, uh, macro aggressions and, another show called the union of the unwanted. So we'll talk to him about what his, uh, what's been up with him. What's what he's doing in his world.

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You can get a David Knight mug. I'm using mine right now for my coffee. You can get David Knight pens, David Knight shirts, cups, all kinds of great stuff and support David at the same time. And we're talking about inflation. And I always thought it was funny since I've really paid attention to the monetary system, which has been many, many years, when I hear things like, well, inflation is at an all-time high. And I thought, well, of course it is. Every year it gets higher or it's a 40-year high. And I'm like, no, no, it's an all-time high. Right?

It's an all-time high. Once you untether your currency from an asset like a bimetallic system like gold or silver, it only gets worse. You can correct, I guess, for a little while, but it's steadily losing value. Over the long run, it's downward. Matter of fact, I wish I could show it on here. There's a chart on the Gold Telegraph Twitter that somebody compiled, like, the store of value with gold and then other currencies linked to it over the last 60 years. And it just shows them going down, like, just steadily, steadily losing, steadily losing going down down down to the right uh and that's that's what happens with fiat currencies they they just all go to zero because just like i said with um these central banks you know the uh the key to the scam

is that you can't ever get away from it i I mean, it is really pure evil genius that they came up with. The creature from Jekyll Island is a real thing. And in order to, again, in order to understand just how insidious it is, you can't pay off the debt that is created by the central bank without creating more debt from the central bank. You have to totally abolish it. There's no way to get out of it. Now, I do believe that we are reaching, and I think this is what the digital dollar, the

central bank digital currency is for, but I think we're reaching the end game for the modern monetary theory and magic money tree. I think we are reaching that point where people around the globe are going to understand. Nobody was talking about fiat currency 10 years ago other than gold bugs and people in the know. That wasn't a major theme. It's everywhere now. I mean, I'm in the gold and silver business. I have people that have never bought precious metals. They've heard this.

They're watching alternative media or somebody even on the periphery of alternative media. They're coming in here and they're talking about, I've got cash. I've never done this before. I want to not be in a bank. Again, this wasn't happening 10, 20 years ago. And it's not totally mainstream yet. That's why there's still a supply of precious metals. Barely. I read something the other day. Somebody tried to fill a $68 million order and they couldn't.

They had to use several exchanges and nobody could do it. There's all kinds of those type of deals going on right now because there's no supply. Well, there is a big push to get metals by regular people and governments, governments more than anybody, and central banks around the world. And, of course, I'm going to plug for DavidKnight.Gold, and you can get in touch with myself or Kenzie, and we can put you into some precious metals, into real money. We don't guarantee. We don't talk about investments.

I'm with David on this. I think that we have to be able to trade among ourselves. We have to trade value for value. And the central bank digital currency is really the driving issue behind why you should have your own money, right? There's a difference between currency and money. Sometimes they can be the same, but in our modern era, they are not. You can have some real money outside of that system. So davidknight.gold and, you know, and I'll probably one more time play the commercial for Wolfpack. We've got so much going on with that. That's your monthly membership program that we started a couple of months ago and you can support david that way as well wolfpack.gold i'll play that commercial explain a

little bit more it's guaranteed metals and uh kenzie and i've been working real hard on that we'll kind of stay in the financial sector and speaking of digital before i talk about gold here I wanted to highlight this article. I think where we're headed here with crypto is an interesting space. Again, just a little bit of background. I bought my first Bitcoin ATM in 2016, back when Bitcoin was trading in the $300 to $400 range. I should have bought more Bitcoin, but I bought Bitcoin ATMs. And so I've been in this space a little while.

I'm not an expert. But instead of seeing these massive parabolic rises in the price of crypto. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the the roar and the chance to reward you that's why every day of the festival we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to 10 euro if your horse loses on a selected race that's how we celebrate the biggest week in racing cheltenham with live score bet this is total betting sign up by 2 p.m 14th of march bet within 48 hours of race. Main market excluding

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unparalleled expertise to serve businesses like yours. We can help you discover partners in new markets, advance your digitisation and gain valuable insights into I think what you're starting to see is what I've wanted, which is adoption. I think cryptocurrency, decentralized currencies, not all of them are great, but some of them are magnificent because it's just peer to peer. It's just us. We don't need a bank. Again, people in the 19th century, did they need a bank? Again, you could use banknotes and there was fractional reserve banking and there were certificates, but you had gold, you had physical things. You didn't need all this regulation. You didn't need the government.

But now you see articles like this, which again, I think these are positive moods. Crypto adoption continues. MasterCard to debut product to help buy digital assets through bank accounts. Well, anybody that knows anything about crypto, if you've been in the Bitcoin ATM business like I've been in, and not so much anymore, I'm just really focusing on my gold and silver business. But one of the things that you find out is, oh, I'll get a Bitcoin ATM and I'll install it and I'll go buy crypto and I'll put my Bitcoin in there and I'll sell it. No, you won't. Because your bank's going to kick you out as soon as you start making those cash deposits and sending wires to the exchange. And if your bank doesn't kick you out, the exchange will.

It doesn't work that way. You have to go and get a bunch of different blessings from different agencies and make sure you're totally transparent and all this stuff. So banks have not been friendly to people trading crypto is my point or buying crypto, just people. Even if you're not in the buying and selling business, even if you want to buy it, it's been very difficult and they don't like it. A lot of banks will tell you, they'll call you as soon as you do a draft from Coinbase you get your call from your banker saying is everything okay yeah everything's fine i'm buying some crypto don't do that in our bank there's a dare we say the adoption of crypto looks like it's accelerating this is a with a question mark this is on zero hedge mastercard is now joining the ranks of a

number of other major institutions now playing a role in helping plug crypto into the mainstream, announcing this week that they are debuting a service that is going to allow consumers to buy and sell digital assets through their bank accounts. Banks have been traditionally hesitant. Hesitant is a word to describe it, but that's not exactly. Hostile is more. I mean, I've just literally cut you off. They'll just send you a letter, your account's closed wind up speeding up adoption as they have thousands of bank partners. The service called CryptoSource is going to be offered as a part of the partnership with Paxos, according to a Bloomberg report. Well, and again, this is, I think, why crypto is important. And the days of, you know, the crypto millionaires and stuff, I don't think they're completely over, but we're in a crypto winter. So the main thing you can do right now is just learn about it. Get an Exodus wallet.

Find a Bitcoin ATM or even a local person to buy from. I think it's local coins. I'll figure it out. Maybe I'll do a link here in the show. Local Bitcoins or something like that. We can go peer to peer, get $20 or a hundred dollars worth of Bitcoin. Learn how to store it in your wallet. You don't have a, open up an account with an exchange, but have a decentralized wallet. That's the main thing.

You don't keep your crypto on an exchange, but learn how to use it. I do think that, you know, this, this battle for a personal sovereignty and liberty, it's not over, it doesn't, not everything is set in stone that there's going to be a central bank digital currency, and we're going to have to live in pods and eat bugs for Greta because Klaus Schwab said so. That's not written. I mean, they're going to try. And they want to put us into a hive run by psychopaths. I know because they tell us that's what they want to do. They want to make a sustainable world where everything is controlled and you have a social

credit score. And if you want to follow the Chinese model, which is, again, that's what our elites love them. Like Justin Trudeau loves the Chinese and their organ harvesting vans and murder of dissidents and social credit score. It's all good for the political class, but it's not over. It doesn't mean that that's the future because there's so many things happening. Again, the cracks in the system, you can see it now that makes things dangerous too doesn't it you know martin armstrong's socrates ai program predicting that the west needs war to save their currency i mean we're watching that unfold will they get their

wish i don't know but i think things like crypto and yeah i don't like mastercard either guys so i mean don't write me and tell me that mastercard is censoring evil i know what it is what i'm saying is the more that we have adoption into the mainstream of cryptocurrency the better the more it flows in and out of things the better because again as long as those things stay decentralized as long as they're not part of banks i'm fine with it let's see mastercard already has a history of crypto adoption and i remember that too announcing earlier this year that it would be bringing on 500 new people to expand staff that are tied to crypto well something to look at right not not a bad thing um and again we're kind of in short supply of good news anymore right but i think it's a good thing to learn cryptocurrency

uh to adopt it in your own life you know look if you uh and i don't think bitcoin's going away anytime soon or maybe ever um just based off of what I understand about it. And to me, Bitcoin is not perfect, but it has the perfect origin story because you don't know. You don't know where it came from. You don't know who Satoshi Nakamoto is or was or if it's a group of people. There's no company behind it. There's no venture capital behind it. And it could be that I've been hoodwinked. I leave that up to possibility because I'm not so arrogant to think

that I know everything, but I don't. My gut tells me that there's something to crypto and something to Bitcoin that could be very useful and a godsend in a lot of ways. At least that's my optimism coming through. All right, more financial news. I grabbed some coffee real quick. It got cold here in the Ozarks. I say cold. I've been used to it being a little warmer, and I had to fire up my propane heater for the first time last night in my cabin. And thank goodness I had beans because it got a little chilly.

I had my window cracked a little bit. I woke up and I'm like, well, I've got a little bit of, you get the allergies or whatever. I'm having to make sure I do all my colloidal silver and take my iodine and all that good stuff so I don't get stuffed up. Well, this is the story I was talking about earlier. We'll go over this real quick.

This is on Kitco. Again, Kitco is a competitor, but they have good articles. And I'm just going to read a few things out of this headline. Are central banks at risk of going bust? ING zeroes in on the European central bank policy. With aggressive rate hikes, the theme of the day, are central banks worldwide at risk of going bust? ING looked at the global monetary policy shift and its impact on central bank balance sheets. As quote, as central banks are moving into a more normal world for monetary policy, this also means that bank reserves again will be remunerated at positive interest rates. Some market participants might have forgotten about this,

but this new normal has always been the reality, said ING's global head of macro, Karsten Brinzegi. The current situation is different from anything we have seen in the past as excess liquidity as a result of quantitative easing and negative interest rates is extremely high. With the sudden increase in rates, potential losses for national central banks could come quickly and exceed existing buffers, noted Brzezinski in a report. Eurozone central banks running down their buffers and their equity is turning negative. It has now become a possible scenario for the years ahead.

Central banks that can print money can never fall short of money, right? But they don't go bust. They go bust instead right this is the this is the the the challenge that these banks are up against because because they don't have any sort of equilibrium in their value system they have to continually go back to the button to print more money to print more currency. And when they've had such massive amount of quantitative easing, which is basically a technical term, a fancy term for money printing, when they've been doing that and they've had

near and somewhat negative interest rates, so there's um incentive for people to say but to spend and spend and spend it really is no there's no buffers there right there's no soft landings because you're just going to continue to devalue what your currency is so anyway i wanted to bring that up it says the ecb's capital can also be increased as as was the case during the Euro crisis. It would increase from... At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar, and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to €10 if your horse loses on a selected race.

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And this is the theme that I opened up the show with. And that gold is migrating from west to east. This is authored by Michael Meharry. He's been a guest here on the David Knight Show. And smart guy, works over at Shift Gold. Says, gold is migrating from west to east. As Bloomberg described it, many Western investors, particularly at the institutional level, are dumping bullion. Meanwhile, Asian buyers are taking advantage of lower prices to snap up less expensive jewelry, coins, and bars. According to the Bloomberg report, large volumes of metal are being drawn out of vaults in

the financial centers in New York and heading east to meet demand in Shanghai's gold market and Istanbul's Grand Bazaar. In fact, Asian suppliers are having a difficult time getting enough bullion to Asian markets. As a result, there has been a significant increase in premiums in many Asian countries. September's average premium in China reached the highest monthly level for nearly six years. The incentive to hold gold is a lot lower. It's going from west to east. We are trying to keep up as best we can.

Does this sound, it's funny because we're talking about a new financial order. We're talking about a transfer of wealth. We're talking about emerging nations. And then you see, again, this article talks about it. The demand for gold and the demand in the West, they just don't see it like the East does, like these emerging markets. They really want the commodities. They want the store of value. And our hedge fund people and our financial wizards, they sell it off. They don't believe in it. New York and London, their vaults have reported an exodus of more than 527 tons of gold since the end of April. According to data from the

CME, a group in the London Bullion Market Association, at the same time, gold imports to China hit a four-year high in August. India, Turkey, Thailand, and Saudi Arabia have also reported increased amounts in imports of gold. There is a growing demand for silver in Asian markets, particularly India. The premium on silver has tripled in recent months. We also see the Asian appetite for gold and central bank purchases. Central banks globally have been net gold buyers for five straight months and all the big purchases have been in the east. But this does not pretend well, this is not a good trend.

This is where when value leaves, right? What do we have? We have our stock market. Our zombie corporations are too big to fail behemoths that don't make a profit. But that's our value system. I think these other countries know that. Turkey has added more gold to its reserves in 2022 to date than any other country with an 8.9 ton purchased in August. Turkey has increased its gold reserves by 84 tons through the first eight months of this year. Turkey now holds 478 tons of gold between its central bank and treasury holdings, the highest level since Q2 of 2020.

The Reserve Bank of India has also been a big buyer in 2022. Its total gold reserves now stand at 782 tons, ranking it the ninth largest gold holding country in the world. Other big buyers in 2022 include Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Qatar, and Iraq. Iraq used to have a lot of gold. I'm sure it has some left. Saddam Hussein, he had a lot of gold, and he had pallets of $100 bills stacked up. If you ever want to see in like, you know, you see footage, but if you were witness to what happens to fiat currency when a country collapses, I've seen that in real time.

And those are those dinars, the Iraqi dinar with Saddam Hussein's face on it. The U.S. invaded and going to secure their banks, and people were just walking out with boxes of them, and they're not worth anything. You couldn't trade them on the street. They went from being something to being nothing because it's just a piece of paper. And I saw that in my own life. I didn't really actually understand it at the time. I thought it was just, again, I thought that was kind of par for the course, a new government, new currency, but think of how much was on the line there for those people. But you know what they traded? Dollars, right? That's what props up our system the world's reserve currency is dollars right 80 of all the 100 bills not in this country

65 of all paper currency that we've printed is not in this country says in the east many people still use gold as their primary form of savings and wealth preservation. For millions of people in Asia, gold is still the basic form of saving. In contrast to the West where financialization started decades ago. Remember I talked about that. It was right after Nixon took us off the gold standard and we didn't run a trade surplus again. That's when you see the financialization of this country. And it's slowly been removed from people from their day-to-day lives until the financial crisis emerges, that is. In the West, people own little

or no physical gold and they feel financially confident. People in the East have retained a long-term view concerning gold, their ancestors saved in gold. So they have been taught to do that with the knowledge that they ultimately with ultimately that gold doesn't lose its purchasing power because it doesn't. For instance, Indian households own an estimated 25,000 tons of gold. And that number may be higher given the large black market in their country. Gold is not just a luxury in India. Even poor people buy gold in Asian nations.

According to an ICE 360 survey in 2018, one in every two households in India purchased gold within the last five years. Overall, 87% of households in that country own some sort amount of the yellow metal. And, of course, Michael Meharry says, so while investors in the West are dumping gold as the price falls, investors in the East are taking advantage of the relatively low price. Yes. It's a relatively low price isn't it based on what we know even though gold is more expensive in many non-dollar fiat currencies they're gobbling up gold as inflation eats away at the value of their local currencies so everybody

in the know understands that it the global rot of fiat currency is happening and they all they all seem to be connected to each other don't they these uh fiat central banks so that's another again it's another example of we're seeing a shift away. And these are the signposts and the things that I think about. The economic reality is changing. And this has to do with our geopolitical change. This has to do with the fourth turning. So you need to ask yourself, what can you do?

Given this knowledge, given this research, if you come to the same conclusions if you do your own research and you figure out that yeah what you've grown up with is going to change that the world economic forum asking you that question in 2016 imagine a world by 2030 that's what they asked where where the United States is not the dominant superpower. What does that mean to you? What does that mean to your finances? What does that mean to your ability to purchase, to own a business, to travel, whatever the accumulation of wealth means to you or the preservation of wealth, what's going on is, I think, historic because you see the East is buying and the BRICS nations are accumulating gold and starting their own financial system right in the face of a United States central bank that is depleting its purchasing power and honestly slitting its own throat geopolitically. sanctions, with its aggression, look at what we're doing, how we're handling the Taiwan issue

with China. And anybody who studied that for years would think that that is some kind of bizarre thing. Like, why are we, why now? You know, why after everything we've ceded to the Chinese over, you know, many, many decades since Nixon and Kissinger in 72 told Mao that we would support a one China policy. And then Jimmy Carter put it in writing. And then the Clintons gave Chinese informants and people in their military missile technology in exchange for cash. And then George W. Bush gave them most favored nation trading status

on December 11, 2001. But now we're at war with them, or now they're an adversary after they bought our politicians, right? Very strange. I think that's all part of the geopolitical shift that's going on. Something I wanted you to pay attention to. So it looks like I've gotten the back office. It looks like I've got Charlie Robinson. I can't make him wait. If he's here early, I'm going to put him on. There he is. I just want to come and hang out a little bit early and hear what you were saying. That's all.

I was talking about the BRICS nations and there's an article up on Zero Hedge about how the East is buying up so much gold and the people in the West and our financial elite, you know, the masters of the universe are selling off their gold contracts that don't exist. But meanwhile, there's a value shift. And I think that's an important thing to pay attention to. And that's kind of how I ended my first hour. It's kind of the theme for the show today was change on the horizon, Charlie. And I'm so glad you're here. By the way, folks, this is

Charlie Robinson. He is the author of The Octopus of Global Control, The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire. He's the host of Macroaggressions. He also is a co-host on the Union of the Unwanted. Many other things. My friend Billy Ray Valentine calls him the hardest working man in the alternative media, but he is my friend, and I'm glad to have him here on the second hour. You and I were, I texted him yesterday, and I said, what do you want to talk about? And pretty much, you know, World War III, the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which again, World War III and, you know, the conflict in Ukraine,

economics, pretty much everything is on the table and there's lots of things going on. But what's on your mind, Charlie? What were you thinking when you woke up this morning and looking at our world? What's on your mind, sir? Well, I try not to be fearful. I don't think that serves us, but I do want to be aware. And I have concerns about where we're headed. I think the wrong people are incentivized to take us into the brink of World War III. I have, you know, we grew up in the 80s and there were, you know, there was the threat of the Soviet Union. And you don't know how much of that was real and how much of that was just, you know, creating this false conflict between the two last remaining superpowers. And, you know, we didn't have a nuclear war, thank God, but it always seemed like we were going to. And I was a kid and I wasn't really sure how much of that was real and how much of that was theater. And now as an adult,

I look at what's going on in Ukraine and I ask the same question, but it feels very different this time around. It feels like we really, you know, it feels like the wrong people are in charge. It feels like when I hear, you know, Anthony Blinken talk, I don't know who he represents. It doesn't feel like America. It feels like he's working on behalf of somebody else. When you hear Zelensky talk about preemptive nuclear strikes on Russia, I think, where are we? Are we in some sort of parallel universe? The part that cracks me up, although it's rightly not funny, is this segment of society out there that is paranoid to the point of injecting themselves with experimental potions and wearing three masks and rubber gloves when they go outside for a virus with a 99.98% survivability rate in a median death age of 80 years old yet they're strangely fine

with limited nuclear war yeah and i can't figure that out charlie if it can just save one life if we could just save one life nuclear war could just save one life no yeah yeah so so at live score bet we love cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar, and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back

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But, but as a human being, I, I have a lot of, uh, I'm very uncomfortable where we are right now. I'm, I'm with you one thing. And I laugh at it because what else are you going to do? You go insane studying this stuff. I mean, you have magnificent research and I love your guests on your show and it's really informative, but the more you learn, if you really dig into this, without any agenda, I don't want,

I don't like like to even talk about things that are catastrophic because I think a lot of that's just a fear porn. Yeah. But when you really analyze, when you say something's different here, and what I've been explaining, you know, hosting for David Knight the last week is that why i find this different is that yes we've had rhetoric before i mean reagan called the soviet union an evil empire um you know we had uh you know other bellicose uh you know a policy of of not only intervention but just uh being um in the in the face of adversaries. We've done that before,

but we've always had a goal of getting to the table. Like if you look at Nixon, he would bomb Cambodia, but he'd bomb Hanoi, all this, or doing the carpet bombing and the B-52s, but it was to get to the table, to sign a peace agreement,

right or wrong. And of course, he had the policy of detente, and they signed the SALT Treaty, the Strategic Armed Limitation Agreement. And, you know, you look at Reagan with Gorbachev and the Star Wars program, but it was always to get Gorbachev to the table at Reykjavik

and try to get more peace concessions. And even Reagan, you know, wanted zero nuclear weapons, right? Well, now you fast forward, there's no coalitions for peace. There's no negotiating table. There is nothing there.

And then you have like France, like Macron in a France has always had a relationship with Russia historically. And they said, well, we're not going to use nukes. Uh, if,

if there's nuclear weapons used against Ukraine, we're not going to use nukes if there's nuclear weapons used against Ukraine. We're not going to retaliate with nuclear weapons. And that was seen as like some sort of betrayal. Right. So we're in a weird time. Like, again, you're talking about the vaccine cult and the Covidian cult. I mean, and just the whole army of NPCs. And they love war. You know, you can't,

look at old movies and stuff, and you see like the anti-war left, and now they're more elusive than Bigfoot. I don't know if they even exist, if the anti-war left's a thing anymore. They are just virulent, you know, they want violence, they want no negotiation whatsoever you have people like zielinski who are like you said calling for a preemptive strike on russian territory it's just absolutely insane so that that's why i agree with you is that there is the backdrop of of being bellicose there's you was it was a negotiating table i don't see that now no no I don't see that now. No, they don't want that, it seems. And that's the most confusing part because our logical brain says, get away from war. This is bad. You can feel however you want about the reasons behind Putin going into Ukraine. You can say, well, according to the Western media, unprovoked attack. I don't

know if it was so unprovoked. I mean, this had been building up for years and years and years, and I'm anti-war and I don't, I don't want any war. So if it were up to me, he wouldn't have come in regardless of the reasons. But I, I, I, I share such an unpopular view of this with, as compared to the, what the mainstream media is putting out. I have seen Putin, surprisingly, to maybe the left, as being incredibly measured. He could have done what America does day one, which is knock out the communications, knock out the water, knock out the roads, knock out the rail systems, knock out the airports and things like that. It took him eight months to finally do that. And he only did that

after they blew up his guy's daughter in a car, blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, blew up a bridge, tried to blow up another pipeline in Turkmenistan. And he finally said, okay, now I'm knocking out now I'm going to do what America or Israel does on day one. I'm going to do in day 251, you know, and, uh, and, and make those. And then of course, what was the response from Zelinsky? This is terrorism. I mean, call it what you want, man, but you were doing no, actually what you guys had been doing to him was terrorism. What he's doing is is responding like how many times are you going to punch somebody before they, you know, they punch you back? And again, and I fully recognize that he, you know, kickstarted this whole thing off.

But I but I also know that there's a lot more to this story. There's even more to this story than than us going back to 2014. We're talking about 100 hundred years of Russia's interaction with Ukraine in this relationship they have. And I think as Americans, it's very difficult for us to sort of put ourselves in a position. It'd be like if, if the, if the Southern States that sort of had a twangy, you know, they were ethnically something else, ethnically Southern, you know, and, and they were trying to assimilate somewhere else. We would say, well, they're part of us, but they speak kind of funny,

so we'll let them go somewhere. Oh, we have no way. We can't wrap our heads around this. This is a very weird concept, what Russia and Ukraine have as a relationship that goes back a century. And it's been a dark one too. So for us to get involved or pretend like we understand it is a little difficult. So I'm watching this. I'm very nervous. I think the wrong people are in positions of power. I think that we are forcing Putin's hands to make alliances that he might not have otherwise made by slapping sanctions on them, by cutting them off from SWIFT banking and forcing them into

relationships with China saying, hey, well, you've got this version of SWIFT that you guys have been building. Maybe we can jump on with that. And hey, Saudi Arabia, the US used to buy 2 million barrels of oil a day from you, but now they only buy less than half a that. And hey, Saudi Arabia, the US used to buy 2 million barrels of oil a day from you, but now they only buy less than half a million. I mean, we buy 2 million. China over here buys 2 million barrels a day from you. Why don't you and the Saudis, why don't you do the petro you want? Why are you messing with the petro dollar? It's so 1970s. This is outdated. You guys should put a deal together. That makes way more sense. Wouldn't you agree? And Saudi Arabia is going, well, these Americans,

they are kind of hard to deal with. And this guy Biden over here, he's not doing us any favor. So let's talk. Let's think about that. Now, that's a situation that would have never happened if we hadn't escalated and put sort of backed Putin into this corner where he's forced to make these alliances with groups that he may have. I'm sure he has relationships with China, but now it's to the forefront like, well, let's do this. Oh, let's let's change how we back our ruble. Let's maybe back it with gold. One gram for every 5000 rubles. Let's try that out.

What does that do to our currency? Spikes the value. This is a good thing. And you just mentioned earlier the Zero Hedge article that came out today talking about gold on its way from west to east. And you go, well, hey, what's going on here? Well, it looks like they are in the process of recognizing that if we're going to have a currency that's worth a damn, it's going to have to be backed by something more than a promise considering nobody trusts any of us anyway, any of us countries, and rightly so. If we're going to have a currency backed by

something tangible, why not make it gold and why don't we do it first? Next thing you know, look, now we've got a currency war going on. This is on top of a potentially hot war. And all signs point to this being, it's never a good time for war, but on top of all of this, while we're experiencing record inflation, while we're about to,

while we're hitting into social uncertainty, obviously we're going to have elections here pretty soon. We're going to have some chaos one way or the other. We know that that's baked into it. So it's a very dangerous time. I'm not looking forward to it. I hope we can, I hope the best case scenario for me is that this was all just a gigantic strategy to put more money in the pockets of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon. I mean, at this point, that's the best case scenario I see. Well, I hope so.

But, you know, it's funny, the leaders or whatever they are looking at Joe Biden, he's going to release more oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. They're doing they're putting Band-Aids on things. They just want to get you a little farther, but they're not're doing they're putting band-aids on things they just want to get you a little farther but they're not fixing the problems and the same thing with with this conflict this could easily be solved you know there's some territory do you have to seed a few things but you know you look at the the strategy of putin he could take ukraine that's oh yeah i mean he doesn't have to he doesn't have to do what he's doing here i mean he could take Ukraine. That's, I mean, he doesn't have to, he doesn't have to do what he's

doing here. I mean, he could just take it. He could take it anytime he wanted to. I mean, they have all the, they have, they know where everything is. That was part of their, the country, you know, that was the Soviet Union, the USSR. All the infrastructure is known to them, all the, everything on the grounds. It's like, I mean, again, it'd be like Texas having its own territory. And then we, you know, we're once part of the United States, but then, you know, weren't it, it's just like that. So a lot of people don't understand that we could just, they could, they could go and take Ukraine again.

I think it was more of a strategy to make sure that they don't join NATO. Like that was the red line because it's national survival. And you're pushing the Russians into a mode where they have to decide. Pat Buchanan put an article up this morning. At LiveScoreBet, we love Cheltenham just as much as we love football. The excitement, the roar, and the chance to reward you. That's why every day of the festival, we're giving new members money back as a free sports bet up to €10 if your horse loses on a selected race.

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pushed into a a third rate you know backwater or using nuclear weapons that's where we're pushing them towards and i again that's we're doing just enough to continue the effort to get him to do that but not anything on the side to say well we want to end this so that's what bothers me and that's what i think you know the the shift that's going on you talked about currency wars charlie i mean all of this americans don't understand because we i talked about earlier today after the end of world war ii we were 5% of the world's population. We had 50% of the world's wealth. Breton Woods in 44 had pegged gold $35 an ounce. The dollar was $35 an ounce for gold, and we had a gold standard. The world was going to use our reserve currency. But by the 71, when Nixon takes

us off the gold standard, people didn't realize right away what was happening but that's when you started to see in words like inflation that really wasn't part of our lexicon we didn't really have inflation too many times in this country especially not in the 19th century but you see and then the financial products creep in right people just have to go and they have to continue to have strategies to offset the fact that their currency is losing value, but that's not how it's sold to them. It's sold to them like, oh, you can grow your wealth. Well, maybe so, but you can't do it like your ancestors did and just save. So Americans, that's why the people in this article, the folks

in other countries whose currencies weren't the reserve currency of the world, that weren't a petrodollar, that weren't put up in a Ponzi scheme that was sustainable for a while at least, they've had to deal with these collapses of fiat currency before. So they just always buy gold. But Americans have not done that. And again, I'm not trying to tell people to go out. I'm telling people to study this because there's a fundamentally, the, the issue is currency. And when it all really tracks back to value and who controls that, you know, it's like the golden rule rule, he who has the gold makes the rules, but it's something to that. And you see the bricks nations emerging all of this geopolitical stuff, Charlie, I think it really just ties back to who's going to control the latest version of

the new world order. To me, it looks like the NWO, Charlie, is not one faction. It's not one top-down thing anymore. It's competing factions for who's going to have control of the helm. What do you think? Yeah. And guess who's in the middle of this battle we're we're like at a at a at a taco bell at two o'clock in the morning with warring factions going on and we're sitting there going just stop fighting i just want to order my crunch wrap supreme not get beat up you know yeah i think that you know when i wrote the octopus book they were talking about the eight tentacles and and and i've had people so clearly, obviously, the military is the most dangerous tentacle. I would say, well, I don't know about that.

I think the banking tentacle is the most dangerous because you don't see it coming. It's disguised through boredom. Nobody cares about banking. This is boring. But then you realize, then you get into school and you realize, hey, they don't really teach us about banking. Oh, you know, this is boring. But then you realize, then you get into school and you realize, Hey, they don't really teach us about that. They don't teach us about money and banking. They don't teach us how it really works just enough so that we know, you know, so that we get a credit card when we're a freshman in college and when they're, they've got the folding table set up everywhere and they're, they're giving you, giving away credit cards, like free, then you

learn the hard way, how money works, way how money works. And so as Americans, we have a very skewed relationship with our money. And like you said, we don't place this sort of value on gold, as opposed to say, a country like India, which is culturally baked into the equation where gold is a huge part of that and they have a different relationship. Yeah. And if you've had currencies explode and collapse and turn into Zimbabwe or Venezuela, you start looking for alternative places to store your wealth. And yeah, gold is difficult in a sense that it's kind of hard to break off a little piece and go buy some bread, but that's not what it's for. It's retaining your wealth. And as Catherine Austin Fitz rightly says, it's always good to have a gold coin in case you need to bribe the

border guards, getting yourself out of here, you know, so there's value in that. And I've, and, and, and, you know, I, obviously you're a sponsor of, uh, of my show. And I, and I like to try and talk to the audience and make sure that I'm saying like, look, this is just about recognizing kind of where we are and being proactive and being prepared. If you can see where this is going, you're not going to hear about it on our nightly news

and in the mainstream press and in America, obviously, we're never going to hear about this. But if you're listening to the David Knight show or your shows or my shows, then you're automatic, you're already thinking about these sort of, uh, you know, off the beaten path places where you can store your wealth. And, and for it to, for gold to be like an off the beaten path place to

store your wealth is, is crazy because it's been around for a long, long time and people rightly recognize it as something with value. So, you know, I just, I just encourage people to sort of think about like, nobody's saying you have to hold it forever, but wouldn't you want to have a little bit of some of it just for, for a while, just in case things go, go wrong. And, uh, and as Americans, it's very, it's, it's, it's strange because we've been living off of this world reserve currency status for a long, long time. It's been subsidizing our lifestyle. We've been very comfortable, very cushy in this. And I think that we've maybe developed some bad habits where we think, oh, well, that dollar, it's the best and it's always going to be the best and

it's stable and it's always going to be stable. Well, maybe and hopefully, but we're not promised that. Look, we're hyper-inflating the currency during COVID. We just cranked up the printing machine and didn't stop. And that has ramifications. You don't need to go too far in your economics class to understand that, but we're going to get the bill at some point for this. And when you combine that with indiscriminate spending overseas and all of the sort of projects that Joe Biden wants to bring back, the Build Back Better plan, which is going to destroy this country in order to build it back better than it was before, then you rightly see we are headed towards a catastrophe. And I don't like to be negative and I don't like to be a

fear monger or anything like that. I don't think it serves us, but I do think there is part of us that needs to recognize it and we need to not be fearful. We just need to be objective and say, okay, we're headed into a very questionable period of time. Where is stability? Where can I get stability? Can I get stability anywhere? Maybe it's gold and silver. Fine. I'll take some of that and have it so I have a little bit more stability. So I'm concerned about where we're going, but I'm trying not to be an alarmist about it. But I do think it's worth mentioning that things feel different. Things just feel a little bit different than they've than they felt over the last,

the last time around when we had an, an exchange with Russia, with this boogeyman over there. So I'm, I'm cautious. And I, it's gut level. There's just something in me that I'm,

I'm saying I'm, I want to communicate to my audience. And anytime I'm on a show to pay attention, because this isn't just rhetoric for rhetoric's sake and I'm coming up with ideas or this could be a possibility. History has consequences. Actions have consequences. Policies have consequences.

I bought a coin collection a few months ago, Charlie, and it was just a lot of silver stuff. And they had a bag in there, and i ended up going through the bag of coins and in it were some uh soviet uh coins and one of them was dated 1991 that's not a gold coin it wasn't silver but it's just so it's this soviet soviet currency and i thought well here's one dated 1991 there wasn't one dated 1992. So that, that coin went from being something to not being something the next year. That's how swift that was. You know, if you were, you know, we were kids and I was five years old in 85. That's the year that Rocky four came out when he fights Ivan Drago, you know, and go to

fight on Christmas in Moscow and all that stuff. That was the Cold War. Well, when I was, you know, 10, it was over. And people thought it was like this mighty Soviet Union. It broke into 16 pieces. We have become so accustomed to normalcy bias in this country that we think that things can't change, but things change rapidly. And we're just our leaders. And I think it's mostly on purpose, but there's also a combination of arrogance and stupidity, which don't go well together. A lot of, and you can see it on the

face of some of these mainstream media types too. Like there's just a spirit of infallibility. The Greeks would call it hubris. Of course, in the Greek tragedies, they always have it with extreme arrogance and hubris would summon nemesis, which would be your destroyer. They've summoned nemesis, and I think that's what the BRICS nations are. I think that our arrogance, just kicking other countries around, invading sovereign countries, destroying their currencies, targeting them, sanctioning them, trying to bend them to our will. And then you finally just hit the point where there was an article up today. It was like we weaponized the and putin has weaponized energy and like we put the sanctions on fine he's like we don't even accept dollars anymore they're candy wrappers i remember reading that i go oh okay so this is a different they don't

want back in now they're just going to go straight they're going to china we drove you know all the work that was done and again you can henry Kissinger is a psychopath. I mean, let's just get this out in the open. And I, I, the, the policy that they had of triangular diplomacy between him and Nixon, it was really Nixon's idea to open China and Kissinger carried it out. But let's not forget that Kissinger Kissinger wrote a book on using limited nuclear weapons and tactical nuclear weapons while he was working for the Rockefellers in the 1960s. So looking at where we are now, I just think these leaders, they've absolutely tanked everything that we have worked for.

All the policy of, again, equilibrium, they're bringing it down. And so what comes after? What's the new normal reality after all of this, Charlie? Yeah, it's hard to say. When Berwick and I wrote Controlled Demolition of the American Empire, we were talking about this. We were talking about how you, you know, you rig a building, you know, you, you, you, you identify the support columns, rig the detonators, you push down the plunger and you wait for it to come down and then clear out the debris and build it, you know, rebuild it. And, uh, we talked about one of the, the hollowing out events, you know, one of the, you know, softening up the structure a little bit by manipulating the currencies. And you mentioned the Soviet Union following, you know, from 91 to 92.

You know, part of what was weakening them for years was that they were having their currency messed with and they were having this manipulated and it was creating big problems. And of course, we're facing the same thing. Soften them up socially, soften them up with fake media, soften them up with their currency, destabilize them internally, and then just kick the door in and the whole house of cards falls down. So that's kind of where I feel like the American empire is right now. A thousand military bases, trillion dollar defense budget, spending money like a drunken sailor, doing all the things that you do when you think these are good times. Well, guess what? You know, we have been the bully on the block for a long, long time. And eventually the bully turned, you know, is walking down the hall, turns the corner and there's everybody standing there. Your turn now, pal. And they get them and they stuff him

in the locker. And when that happens, when that day comes and we will have had it coming to us as the American empire for our behavior around the globe. And as an American, I take no pleasure in that. I don't like our image around the world to be that of empire and conquest and war and sanctions and lies and these things, but we have to be objective. And that's what our leaders have done. And you're right. It's this mix of incompetence and arrogance by politicians that have never... By guys that have been in politics their whole life, don't know how to run a business, don't know how to interact with real people. They're caught in these weird bubbles of Washington, D.C. or wherever.

And they see the world much differently than we do. I think it's what this new world looks like afterwards. Boy, it's anybody's guess. But I'll tell you, I think that the lifestyle that Americans have been accustomed to living is going to change in a very noticeable way. First of all, we're seeing it right now with inflation. I mean, if you just look around in some of these cities, we're seeing it socially with more tent cities, people on the streets. It's changing. I don't remember that. I mean, and even when I was in college in Los Angeles, which was in South Central Los Angeles, where you would expect to see a ton of homeless people, I didn't see that. But that's happening in real estate for almost 25 years. We have a housing market that is about to experience another catastrophe here. So I'm bracing for impact,

of course. I'm bracing for that. I'm sounding the alarm bell as much as I can just so that other people can recognize. One of the things that Berwick and I were talking about in Controlled Demolition was we made this comparison to the December 26, 2004 Banda Aceh, Indonesia, where the people woke up that morning and looked at the beach and there was no water. It was gone. The ocean that was normally there was nowhere to be seen. They could walk out a quarter of a mile and there's just no water here. Now, those that had been around that

recognized the signs knew what that meant. The animals instinctively went headed for the hills. The elephants and everything were running up the hills and the people were out there taking selfies in front of this beach. But those that had been there before, they recognized the science. They knew that meant that a tsunami was coming. They knew what that meant. And they didn't wait around for the media to tell them. They got to higher ground. So I feel like we're in this weird place where those of us that know what to look for,

we see that the water is gone and we're trying to, you know, wave our hands and scream, but a lot of people don't want to hear it right now. They're, they're, they're in the selfie phase. And, and, and so I feel like we, we grab the people close to us that we can connect with. And we say, you got to trust us. We got to get to higher ground. The animals recognize this. We recognize this. I'll explain it to you later, but we're running out of time. Get yourself to higher ground, whatever that means. And we mentioned currencies, we mentioned gold and silver, things like that. Look, I'm not licensed to give financial advice, but I don't think I need to be licensed in order to say, make some moves now while you can, while we're in this relative calm, which is crazy to say about,

about where we are right now, but calm compared to where we could be going and, uh, make some moves in advance and be proactive because, um, because if what we see coming, it actually does hit us, it's going to be like a, a tsunami of, of, of, and you know how those tsunamis work, right? They come in and they go back and then they come back in again and they just take everything, you know, they, everything gets mixed in. So get up, uh, get yourself to a place where you feel comfortable, a little bit safer and, uh, and dig in for maybe a long run here. I totally agree with that. I was thinking of why you were talking about a quote from Patrick Henry says, um, I'm doing this from memory. He said, I light my path with the lamp of history. I know of no other way of judging the future, but by the past.

And that was the, um, that was a quote that opened up Pat Buchanan's book, A Republic, Not an Empire. I read that back in the early 2000s. The reason I bring that up and the reason I was talking earlier about Kissinger and Nixon opening China and, and, and all the moves that were made it, you know, right before, right at the same time we went off the gold standard. I, I, I go through a lot of history to try to figure out where we're headed and what makes me so nervous.

And you're talking about Russia being driven into the arms of China. We made all these moves, all the previous administrations with all their crimes and all the things that they were and the corruption in politics, which has always been, was always to put the United States in a better strategic position. But what have you uncovered in your research? And you obviously wrote the controlled demolition of the American empire. You're 1,000% correct here, sir, because nothing that is going on right now by our

leaders is placing the United States in a stronger strategic position, regardless of what you feel about policy. Just if you do the math on where we stand right now as a country, we're being weakened, we're being siphoned off, and we're being put in dangerous situations playing nuclear chicken. And this isn't, again, that's not the moves that are being made are not long-term for strength, right? Uh, they're not sound. They're not, they have nothing to do with, with, uh, kick-starting economies. Like we talked about Biden with, I mean, I've mentioned this again and again, but he's releasing oil, but not fixing the supply problem. Right. So, I mean, they know that they need to, but they're just going to do just enough.

It's almost like, Charlie, we are being slow-walked into this. Instead of kicking us down a flight of stairs, they're just going to walk us down. Just slowly going down, and that way it could be controlled a little bit better. In every respect, in, in, in every respect, sir, it is a controlled demolition.

Yeah. And, and you, you look at the reasoning for it. You go, why? You know what? Well,

look, if you're trying to build a one world government, which these maniacs clearly are, they've talked, they talk openly about this. I know it sounds conspiracy theory when you first hear it, but then you go, no, wait a second,

read their books, read what the CFR is talking about with the trilateral committee. They want a world in which they control it all. So when you've got one last remaining obstacle, the American empire, you got to get rid of that. You know, you can't have that standing in your way. And these people are as, as Alex Jones said, globalists. They're not married to any one particular country. So they don't have the same relationship with America that we have. They don't care so much as it is just the empire needs to go. It needs to be weakened. So if you look at it from that, with that lens and you go, well, what would I do? Okay, fine. What would I do if I was going to

weaken the American empire so that I could at some point do what we did to the Soviet union, just kick the door and watch it all fall down? Well, what would I do? Well, you do what we're doing now. You would debase the currency. You would start indiscriminate wars. You would drain our oil supply. You would cut off the opportunity for domestic capacity drilling. It ended the ANWR drilling. They've whittled it down to only 10 oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico operational and the legislation that they just passed made it optional for them to take that number down to zero, cancel Keystone Pipeline, cancel domestic drilling, lease contracts, things like that.

That's what you do if you're trying to destroy a country's ability to control their own, be responsible for their own energy. Then take the strategic petroleum supply, start selling portions of it to China, which is insane. Beg the Saudis for more oil. They say, no, we're good. We don't need to pump more. And say, well, if we have more windmills, that'll fix everything. I mean, this is an energy policy that is suicidal. And so you think, okay, I'm no energy expert, but even I recognize this as crazy. So what are these so-called experts actually doing? You can't possibly be doing these things if you think that it's going to make things better for America.

So therefore, what you're doing is you must know that you're making it worse for America. So who do you work for? Do you work for Klaus Schwab and these guys? Is this the build back better plan? It's implied in the name that you're going to destroy the country because otherwise they wouldn't call it build back better. So if the plan is to destroy the country in order to build it back better, would you not cut off their energy supply? Would you not debase their currency? I mean, these are all of the things that you would do. And like you said, it's a slow walk. It takes a little bit of time, but we're going to get to a point where we don't have any oil. And we're going to get to a point where Saudi Arabia goes, you know, you guys are just, you're too much of a headache to deal with. And you don't buy enough oil for us to justify this. And you're not really protecting us.

We had this good protection racket sort of thing set up in the seventies, but you know, we're not worried about our, our neighbors so much anymore. We're going to do the petroyuan deal. And then we've got problems. Then we've got problems with getting our oil. Then we've got problems with the petrodollar arrangement. The artificial marketplace for dollars goes away. Those dollars come flooding home. Inflation goes through the roof. Everything collapses. I mean, this is the recipe for destroying the American empire. So the question is, who do these people work for? Because they don't work for us. I think we're very clear about that. Very clear. I was thinking while you were talking about,

and this is a kind of a classic movie reference, but the movie Training Day with Denzel Washington, I'm sure you've seen it yeah at the end when he realizes that he's not really in control and the whole neighborhood surrounds him you know and he starts flailing you know king kong's got nothing on me he's going through the whole five phases of the dying as he realizes he's does it his power is gone and i think that's a lot of a ruling elite are gonna figure figure that out. I mean, it's, and it is interesting. You, you talk about how the so-called experts, you know, they want to make a green economy and we'll, we'll, we'll get rid of all the oil and rid of

all the coal. We'll just do things on wind. And, and then you realize that behind all of it is not to get you to drive electric vehicles. It's to not get you to drive. I mean, if you look at, yeah, they can go, go get $70,000 and go get you a Tesla. Fine, you know. But then you try to plug it into the grid. And as Thomas Massey was asking the whole pothole Pete Buttigieg, right?

He says, so, you know, plugging an EV into every household is like adding 25 refrigerators. You don't have a grid to support that. So what are you doing? Cause they're not building up a new grid. No. So the deal is you trade in your combustion engine for an EV and then you can't plug it in. Cause the grid goes down air go. You don't go anywhere, which I think is the plan, right? The whole part of being sustainable is just sustaining your position of not moving. Yeah. And look, if I thought that going to a green future would make this planet a better place, I'd be in favor of it. But again, it's not. There's a whole lot more to the story. The EV, I did an episode called Let Them Eat Teslas, talking about the electric vehicle industry and how it's not ready for prime time yet. And we're trying to force something onto consumers that the infrastructure can't, can't sustain. And as somebody that lived in California for a long, long time, it's been horrifying to watch what's happened to that state over the years. But,

but, you know, during the summer, there's problems with the power grid, pre-electronic vehicle, electric vehicles, right? It's always been problematic and it gets hot, you know, late August, and then there's fires and, and all these things. And we've had issues with the power grid in the past. So what is the solution for that? Well, the solution should be, we're going to have to need to build a new power grid or modify the current one or something along those lines. The, the, the answer is most definitely not, you know what we need? We need everyone to go to, we need everyone to strain the power grid even more. And they said, well, well, but the thing is everyone will be charging

it at night when, when, you know, there's less demand, like not if everybody's charging at night, there won't be less demand. Like, are we not thinking this out? And so they said, well, it's the equivalent of adding like two extra air conditioning units to your house. Okay. Now as somebody that has lived in Southern California and also Las Vegas, I will tell you that just having one air conditioning unit on your house is going to add several hundred dollars to your bill during the summer months. Okay. Now, if you have an electric car that adds two of them, you're not saving money on gas. You're just trading one expense for another. Oh, and by the way, where do we think this electricity comes from? Like fairy dust?

It comes from coal burning power plants. So again, we're not solving any problems that even just the most basic investigation into this would reveal like, oh, I don't think this is really a solution. So you see this insane push for it, a very disjointed, we've all got to go, we've got to transition to this green economy. I got news for you, the green economy is They understand we're not ready for this. So if we're not ready for it, but we're being forced into it, then what's the plan? The plan is to break the system, to break it, to make it so that you, like you said, you can't go wherever you want. You have less freedom. You are more dependent on somebody else for things. So electric cars aren't getting you closer to your freedom. They're enslaving you. They're making you more dependent

on the power grid. Oh, and by the way, it's not like you have 12 different choices of power companies either. You don't get to choose between Southern California Edison, Bob's Electric, Steve's Discount Electricity or anything. You get one choice. What do you think the bills are going to look like for that when you have one choice and you're dependent on that company for now, not just the lights in your house or the electricity for your refrigerator, but now also for your car that gets you to and from work. So we're asking for trouble. We're marching ourselves into a cul-de-sac. And I'm fearful that because people are so dependent on their TVs and have been brainwashed into thinking that this

is saving the world, that they're going to be the last people. They're never going to figure it out until it's too late. So we need a wake-up call here. And I'm not sure what that will be. But again, you guys in Texas experienced a power grid going down just from a little bit of weather. And I think that that should be a reminder to people. These power grids aren't as stable as we would like them to like to think that they are. Oh, and by the way, they're all just one EMP away from going down for a year anyway. Oh, yeah. We've done no infrastructure updates.

No. It's just amazing. I mean, we've gone, uh, we'd added 25 trillion in debt in the last 20 plus years, Charlie. I mean, it took us from 1776 to 2000 to go 5 trillion. And then, and by the year 2020, we were, we were close to 25 trillion now reaching 30 trillion and no infrastructure updates at all you know if you were going to have a plan to take out the united states of america to weaken it to make it become a vassal nation this is what you would do you wouldn't just overtly say we're going to take all your things and and you know i mean some of it is they're they're you nothing, you'll be happy, but, but they're doing it in the subtle ways.

And, you know, and it starts with corruption. If you ever heard the, uh, the phone conversations on the documentary, I think it's called the smartest guys in the room. This is back in the early two thousands about Enron and how they were using, they were, you know, using blackouts and they'd roll the blackouts in California to restructure and resell the power back to the people, right? And again, that's a great argument for, of course, Enron, huge ties to the government itself. And I mean, they were flying the Bush campaign 2000. They were flying people around on the Enron jet. But it just goes to show that we've had corruption in the corporate entities.

We've had corruption in the government entities, the fascistic merger there. And it's pushed us into collapse. And that's where we're headed. We don't have we're not updating things. Our politics, it's a dead end road because no one will take up the mantle of actually trying to do anything because you can't get anywhere in our current political reality. That's why I'm not really following these elections really close now for the what are D wins, whatever. I just kind of think, well, it's local. I'm, I'm, I'm looking more of the overall arching theme of who's really in control here

because the, it keeps getting worse and the plan keeps, you know, continues to accelerate and i don't hear anybody really talking about that in politics so i think it's kind of a moot play it's only us so we're only us out here in alternative media that are actually talking about what's going on which brings me to a question that i want to i'm going to be talking to you about and by the way you're welcome to stay on for the next hour i got don jeffries guard goldsmith's going to be if you can't you're fine but i I want to let you know,

that's an open invitation to have a panel. Cause we're just going to talk kind of the same thing that you and I've been doing, but I wanted to add a couple of subjects to it. So, uh, Charlie, you looked and you've seen the,

um, the change in the narrative. There's been a shift in reality. If you know, we're talking about gut level, there's something wrong with our geopolitical, uh, situation situation we see that's different than it has been before on the on the front of covid 1984 the covidian cult uh pfizer uh you know executive telling the dutch parliament we never did any tests for efficacy on transmission.

That was never done. We had to, we had to move at the speed of science. I mean, kind of a shocking, not really shocking to us, but to that it's released in public. And then you have another European nation is, is investigating criminal prosecution into the, the sale of vaccines and the pushing of vaccines through Pfizer's corporation. And then you've got all these other stories popping up. Technocracy.news says that there's like 80 different legislative actions in the United States that are anti-vax.

What's going on? Are we starting to see cracks in that i mean it does feel like in 2022 that there has been like the the the it's receding in a lot of ways the push for uh i mean again the the vax uh you know the having the mandates and all that you know it's quieted down a whole lot and it seems like, oh, Fauci yesterday was grilled on closing schools. He's no longer, I mean, he's still lauded and loved by the mainstream, but not in the way he was. The halo's kind of dimming a bit. Is there something going on? Is there an undercurrent of backlash? Is that pendulum about to swing backward? Well, you know, what's funny is that it is, again,

matching up almost perfectly with the Spars pandemic document. You know, this 2017 simulation that was called the Spars pandemic. It was a fake simulation, a fake event. I mean, a real event that took place simulating a fake outbreak of a novel coronavirus, much like Event 201. But this was a couple of years before that. And what it was set up to do was it was to get the pharmaceutical industry and the media together so that they could workshop how to manage the message. And so what it was simulating was an outbreak of a virus, how the media was going to deal with it, what they would do to educate the

public and get them prepped for a vaccine rollout. Then the vaccine rollout would happen. And they went into what the ramifications of that would be in a fictional scenario. Now in this fictional scenario, it, you know, when you're, when you're going through, it's simulating an outbreak from, from the years 2025 to 2028, right? So if we just take that timeframe and just kind of move it a couple of years and drop it right over 2020 and use the same, the same timeframe, but just move it a couple of years early, it starts to line up pretty well. And part of what it, what it talks about very, you know, some very kind of minor things, but details that are, were matching up as an example in this fictional scenario,

they realized that there's hesitation in the black community due to Tuskegee and some distrust between the black communities and the medical establishment, and rightly so, of course. So in order to manage that in this fictional scenario, they employ rappers, a fictional guy named BZ, And he comes out with hashtags, hashtag vaccines work, and you go, okay, you read that. What did Run DMC come out with? They made a cartoon, hashtag vaccines work, juvenile back that vax up, hashtag vaccines work. And you go, oh, that's quite a coincidence. But again, maybe it's just a coincidence, right? Then in the scenario, they rush to market a vaccine, but because they're in such a hurry,

they build it on the backs of a existing bovine vaccine and just to sort of fast track it. And so they build it on that. They rush it through with emergency use authorizations. They get the media on board. They get the messaging on board. There's a Fauci-like character, a sort of celebrity doctor that takes the stage and sort of promotes and slow at first and then it becomes undeniable and it becomes obvious that it is because of the vaccine. And so in this scenario, they role play this, what are we going to do? How are we going to manage the message when

everybody figures out that the vaccine isn't safe? What are we going? And you know what winds up happening? Well, first of all, people start getting sponge brain in this scenario. Can't remember where they put their car keys. People are getting sick. They start suing the government. The government says, you can't sue us. It's an emergency use authorization, but we'll do something. We'll start like a little organization over here. We'll fund them with money and then you can sue that organization. So the people do, and they drain all the money out of that. And they say, we're going to sue you again. They say, oh, fine. We'll put more money in there. So they put more money in this organization that keeps getting sued by the people. Meanwhile, the deaths are piling up. The sponge brain is piling up. It becomes a huge problem. And in that scenario, they start, the people turn on the public,

the public turns on the media. They turn on these professionals. They turn on the celebrities that were brought in. They turn in on the fictional rapper and they run them all out of town. CDC head is fired. The fictional doctor is fired. The media is, is, uh, demonized. And they wrote this whole scenario out. Now, when I'm reading this in 2020 with Mike Halpern, who's saying, listen, you got to read this thing. And so he gives it to me and I read it and he comes on, we talk about it. And at that point, it's like we're about 40% of the way in and it looks familiar, but it could go either way. Now we're right in, you know, now we're 80% through and we're looking at this going, it's a script.

It's playing out exactly like this. And I wish that it weren't, by the way. I don't, I'm not trying to be right about it. I'm not trying to have a gotcha moment, but because to be right about this means that people are going to be sick and dying and hurting and angry and all of these things. And I don't want any of that to happen, but they wrote the document and it's playing out a lot like that. So we in the alternative media had a head start on the general public because pre-COVID, we had big questions and problems with the pharmaceutical industry. We knew that they were all convicted felons, the major ones. 1986 congressional declaration that gave them immunity for their vaccine programs because we, because they were losing so much money getting sued because their existing vaccines were so dangerous and moving forward, they started to ramp up that vaccine schedule. So we had questions

about them. We had questions about VAERS, the vaccine adverse event reporting system. We had questions about that kangaroo court. We knew that the pharmaceutical industry were pathological liars. They're all convicted felons. They've been found guilty of multiple felonies in courts over the years that none of them are clean. So we knew that they were dirty to begin with. And so we were already suspicious once COVID kicked off. I think that the general public didn't have that backstory. It took them a little while to figure out, hey, maybe these guys aren't telling us the truth. Yeah. We were screaming that. We were waving our arms and screaming, these guys are no good. Don't listen.

Don't trust them. Oh, you conspiracy theorists, you anti-science people and everything. Well, we're not anti-science. We're pro-science. That's the reason why we have questions about these people. They're the anti-science ones. They're the ones that are telling you that, oh, we don't need a trial. Or yeah, well, we tried it on eight mice and that's good enough or anything. You're going to accuse us of being anti-science when you're simultaneously saying, well, trials,, trial smiles. We don't need those anymore. Those are so, you know, five years ago. Who cares? Look, we're in a real dangerous place here.

And in the pharmaceutical industry is to blame for a lot of this. They have been above reproach, protected by the government. They have this very unusual relationship. They donate a lot of money to these guys that to these guys, the red team and blue team. And for everyone that wants to say, well, Trump was the biggest salesman of all. Let's be fair here. We can pin this on Biden and his forcing everybody to get vaccinated or OSHA is going to come in and get you fired or anything. Yeah, we should be critical of him for sure. But let's not pretend that Donald Trump wasn't out there saying the

vaccines are great, they're safe and effective, and I love the vaccines. This is red team and blue team situation. When it comes to big pharma, when it comes to the military budgets, they're all on the same team here. There's too much money at stake. So for those of us that have been paying attention, we were ahead of the curve screaming about this. But for those that are sort of new to the game and you want to figure out how it works, start with this. The pharmaceutical industry is not your friend. They are in business to make money. There's no money in the cure. There's no money in dead people. The money's right in the middle, just keeping you sick enough to be a constant customer and just alive enough so that you're not dead, no longer buying their pills. They want to keep you on 19

prescriptions and tell you that they're fixing you when in reality, they're draining you of your life energy. They're draining you of your money and eventually they'll take your life in the end. Oh, they certainly will. And you know, I remember that episode. I've been listening to you for years now and that,

that learning about spars, because there's so many simulations that go, go have gone on event two Oh one. And then you even go back to 2001, which is interesting with Spars is Johns Hopkins always pops up. Yes, they do. Right. They always have a role in them. And they run all these simulations, whether it's for, you know, Operation Vigilant Guardian or Able Danger or something for 9-11 or, you know, Operation Dark Winter or Event 201 or SPARS. And they tend to go along the lines of their own simulations.

And that's, again, that's, you know, we have the, well, we're fortunate that we've made it the last couple of years. You know, you're talking that goes back to 2020 in your research on SPARS. And look at everything that's unfolded, Charlie. It's just absolutely amazing. Like we have, I've forgotten more, you know, in like the last couple of years, just all the information. And I keep forgetting stuff. Like you just brought up spars. I, you know, I talked about that six months ago and then yes, we're in the middle of it. It's really turning out that way. Um, I, I don't know if spars mentioned that in the periphery, they'd have like a nuclear war or something. Please don't do that. But you,

you've talked about things like Deagle, you know, that's something that I used to bring up in 2019, even before all this stuff, I'm like, is anybody watching this weird website, Deagle, you know, like, what does this mean? You know? And then 2020 kicks off and we're like, Hmm, is Deagle, is there something, is there something legit with this deal? this obscure analyst website that's paid by the U.S. government and other governments to analyze military strength that says we're going to lose 70% of our population? You did a show on that recently. I don't want to take too much of it. You've got to go after the top of the hour. But what did you cover in brief on that Deagle episode?

We get people to go check that out too. Yeah, that was the most controversial. Well, it wasn't controversial. Everyone seemed to like it, but it was called, Where Did All The People Go? On macroaggressions. And I put it out about two months ago

and it was the biggest episode I've ever had. And what I was talking about was I said, well, listen, we've got these, um, we've got these simulations. We've got, uh, Deagle talking about a, a, a decrease in population from the year 2015 to 2025 of roughly 70% in the West. They show the, from 330 million people in America to 99 million. And you go, all right, well, so where's everyone going? They're going to Mexico. And you look at the Mexico numbers.

No, there's no in-migration anywhere. There's just decreases. And it listed out country by country what the percentages are. And you go, okay, well, this is weird. What would happen? Are we getting hit by an asteroid or something? Like, I don't get it.

But there were a few countries that if you got down to the bottom, their populations were going up. Not many of them, but like Iraq, Madagascar, Congo, you know, some unusual countries at Papua New Guinea, you know, and what I did was I took a look at the Deagle chart. Then I took a look at the worldwide vaccination numbers that the CDC put out. They had the national ones and then they had international numbers as well. And when you looked at the international numbers, it showed the countries that were the most heavily vaccinated. And then it also showed the ones that were at the bottom. And every country was at least at 50%. But the

ones, there was a few down at the bottom that were like 52%, you know, they're the lowest ones. And what I noticed was that the countries that were the least vaccinated also matched up perfectly with the few countries in the deagle chart that didn't have their population going down, actually had their population going up by like about 15%. And I went, Hmm, okay. My little put on my tinfoil sombrero and started investigating this. Cause this is, this is, it might be nothing. It might. And I hope it's nothing. I don't want the Deagle chart to be right. For that to be right means that we are in a massive depopulation push. And so I don't want that to be the case, but just because I don't want it doesn't mean I'm not going to investigate it. So I just took a look and sort of overlaid those. And I got a

very bad feeling about where we're headed. And people listened to that episode. And I said, part of it was that. And then the last part of the episode I talked about, well, what does this mean? Let's just pretend that this is what happens. Maybe it doesn't happen on a 70% scale, but what if it happens 30%? What if by 2025, there are a hundred million fewer people in America? What does that look like from a societal standpoint? How do you manage people at that point? How do you tell the person who dutifully went and got themselves inject their entire family? Maybe they made it through, but their entire family's dead. It's April 15th, Time to pay your taxes. Really? You think I'm going to pay you? You guys told me that this was safe and effective. You told me I had to get this.

You told my family they had to get this to go to school or to go to work or to get on an airplane. You said it was safe. It killed everybody. You want me to pay taxes? I'm not doing any of that. Right? So what does that do to society? How does that affect people? There's nobody to fly the planes. There's no mechanics left to fix the planes. Now what? And I started to look at it. What does that do to us from a financial standpoint? Now there's not, well, you don't have to pay out on social security. So I guess that's a good thing for the government. But was that the plan all along? I don't know. pay out on social security so i guess that's a good thing right for the government but was that the plan all along i don't know maybe my little mind gets going thinking about that stuff but but but then what does it mean you know strategically does china just sit back and

wait go just give them a couple years let them soften them up and then we don't need to invade we'll just cut off exports starve starve them out. Uh, we, they get 97% of their medicine from us. Turn that switch right off, you know? So, so what is, what does that look like? And, and again, right. Admittedly, it was a thought experiment that took us down some dark places, but I think the response I got from the people that had been watching it or listening to it was, thank you for having that conversation. As dark as it was, I'm glad you at least brought it up so that we can think about it. And by no means am I talking about it because I'm trying to manifest it or anything like that. I have people in this group too. I described it as it would be the least satisfactory, I told you so of all time.

You don't want any of this stuff to happen, but if it does, what does that look like? What it did for a lot of people was it got them thinking about where things could be headed. If that actually does play out, then the world's going to look a whole lot different, Tony, unfortunately. I listened to the episode too. That's why I brought it up. And I thought you might want to plug that. I think the David Knight audience, I mean, naturally we should be a subscriber to Macroaggressions. This is great content over there. And Charlie is a, is a magnificent researcher, a really smart guy and a friend of mine. And I would, I know that's available. How many episodes down to that? It's about two months ago, isn't it? Something. Yeah. I'm at episode 275 right now. And I think it's maybe 265 or so. Yeah. Go, go check that out. Where did all the

people go is what it's called. Where did all the people go? And again, the octopus of global control.com. And I can't, I can't recommend your books highly enough. Your podcast and, and such a great human being, Charlie, you're welcome to stay here. I know if you have to go, you can go drop off. I've got to go to the bank. I'm going to get my money out of the bank. No, I understand. It's always the invitations open my friend. I appreciate it. Thank you for everything you do. I appreciate you as a friend. I appreciate you as a sponsor. I appreciate you as a voice of reason in a sea of insanity. It's nice to, it's always nice to talk to you.

And I appreciate you. It's mutual, my friend. Thank you, Charlie. Charlie Robinson, everybody. All right. We're going to bring in the legendary Don Jeffries. And of course, guard Goldsmith. It was also legendary in his own way.

Uh, the, uh, the amazing, the, the mysterious guard Goldsmith. I like that. Sounds good.

And coming in after Charlie, that episode, by the way, that floored me when I listened to Charlie break down those numbers and it was very scary. And I'm so glad you had Charlie on Don. Hello. And Tony,

thanks for letting me join you. Well, this is again, uh, garden. I have hosted the show. It's been a good tag team effort for the last seven days. I'm really glad David will be back.

I thought we'd bring this in for a nice soft landing. We've had some great guests, good conversations. Uh, the, uh, the David Knight audience has been very kind. So we're going to finish strong in the

last hour. As a matter of fact, I'm going to step away for just a second. Can you take it from here, Gardner? I'll come back and then I'll direct the, I've got some topics I want to cover with you, gentlemen. I just think I could take it. Sure. Absolutely. You betcha. And you know, talking about that particular subject of the strange numbers that Charlie broke down on that episode. It reminded me of the debut Twilight Zone episode, Don, with Earl Harlem and walking around saying, where is everybody? Where is everybody? But I got to say, there are a couple of stories that I saw this morning and last night. Tomorrow, the CDC is going to vote. The wonderful CDC is going to vote on whether or not they are going to include the mRNA jabs on the mandatory child's vaccination list. Yeah, very exciting.

And you know, it's interesting, Don, because yesterday when Tony and I were chatting, I was talking, I went through the show yesterday and then Tony and I were chatting, I was talking, I went through the show yesterday and then Tony and I got together towards the end of the program. The beginning of the show, I was playing cuts of Anthony Fauci talking with Jonathan Carl of ABC. You know, the only times I see ABC now are when I'm watching news cuts of ABC news. People do really bad anti-journalistic stuff,

which is pretty much all the time that you can find a cut where they're doing that, as you know, as a writer. It's easy to be a journalist if you just actually try to be fair and source your material. And they don't do that anymore. They haven't done it for decades, really. But it was interesting because Fauci was trying to cover his tracks. And I just thought to myself, they were talking about lockdowns and masking and things like that. And Jonathan Karl said, do you think it was a mistake to push for lockdowns? Fauci was like, oh, no, no, back off, back off.

I didn't do that. I didn't do that. And I just thought to myself, the entire paradigm here, Don, imagine a country of tens of millions of people, right? Sitting there watching two guys, two people discuss policy that will affect everybody. How unbalanced and screwed up is that? That nobody questions the very insane idea that a top-down mentality, the people at the top of the pyramid can decide for everybody what the policy's got to be for

their local schools. And that's no longer questioned. People don't discuss that. It's just policy. Here we are. We've got the CDC coming out tomorrow. Nobody questions the CDC. You know, I saw Thomas Massey tweet this morning. He says, tomorrow the CDC is going to do this. And he said, you know, the flu vaccine is not on the schedule. Why should the mRNA vaccine be on the schedule? So I tweeted back to Thomas Massey, who should know, and he's a pretty fair guy. I said, why should there be a schedule? How about that? How about not forcing my neighbor to pay for the people who write up that schedule? God dang it. What is wrong with people? It's crazy. No, it is. And I did hear about that CDC and perhaps, which is amazing.

And talk about the timing, because I'm finishing up my book on this whole thing. It's a tentative title, Masking the Truth. And it just goes all the way back to the beginning. And of course, it's a never ending story because it doesn't look like this is ever going to end. At the end, I keep talking about how they're not giving it up. I don't know if you heard about this. They supposedly had a team, I think Boston University scientists, that created some super strain that's 80% fatal. That's my home of water, Don. I used to walk by that building area all the time. I was down in Boston for a concert. I was like 50 yards away from that building just last week. Oh, well, it's good that you didn't get too close because, I mean, you know, the idea

that they would do something like that. But of course, this is on the heels of what I actually talked about in one of my earlier books, where they had been playing around with the 1918 flu for a long time. These people at their heart are like Dr. Frankenstein's. Why was any of the virus strain from the 1918 flu saved? Why? Did they save the bubonic plague anywhere? If these people had been alive, they probably would have. So no good can obviously come out of this. And so, but I think, yeah, I don't know how much of this is fear porn,

because again, they're talking about that. Expect, Rochelle Walensky was saying, expect we're ripe for a real terrible flu. We're really ripe for that. We haven't been through enough in the last two years, according to you people expect we're ripe for a real terrible flu out. We're really ripe for that. We haven't been through enough in the last two years, according to you people. We're ripe for something else. So, yeah, this is and it brings back again to one of the things we don't talk about enough. And that is maybe one of the greatest disappointments of Donald Trump was the fact that I don't think they could have played this COVID narrative if he had kept his promise to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Early on, one of the best things I heard about him is that Bobby Kennedy came out and said, hey, you know, I'm going to, you know, Donald Trump asked me to head a commission to study the link between vaccines and autism. Yeah. So if they could have exposed how deadly these vaccines have been for a long time, I think it would have been hard for them to introduce the warp speed vaccine. But of course what happened was as soon as he said it, Trump stopped talking about it, never mentioned vaccines again in any kind of, and when he had been tweeting about it before he did, because a lot of people think maybe Barron Trump is,

is on the scale and that's what got him involved in thinking that something's wrong here. And, but he stopped it. They never had that commission. Bobby Kennedy said they stopped answering my calls at the White House. So it might have been a different story. But if you just look at what I'm writing, I'm finding out new things every day.

I get this researcher sending me stuff. But at this point, they're acknowledging that, OK, yeah, it's true. Was it Pfizer, the CEO acknowledged, well, yeah, we didn't actually do any trial runs here or there. And now they just approved a new vaccine for children, which again, is unconscionable because they, they, they have, they're no threat to them from whatever this COVID is. They have no threat, but they did it. And they, they, they're now, the FDA has now basically scrapped trial runs for vaccines and they're just going to do it without any trial runs. It's like,

you know, what, what kind of science is that? And like you said, the two people talking, that's the way it is for everything you have. There's nobody allowed to question it. So even the ones that are good on some issues like Thomas Massey. Rand Paul never really questions the vaccines. And it's just because, you know, his wife had a financial stake in remdesivir. So, you know, that's why when he questions Dr. Fauci, it's about gain of function research. It's not about why are you pushing these vaccines? Why is the death rate? And, you know, Charlie was talking about why is the death rate dropped 40, went up 40 percent last year.

It's going to be more than that this year. People are dying in record numbers. They can't explain why. Look at the bodybuilder, the 62-year-old bodybuilder, the guy that tweeted out, Bagon or whatever his name, Doug Bagon, I think his name is. He tweeted out last year, basically said, hey, you know what? I've done the research. I like the science. I'm satisfied. I'm getting the jab. And you guys can use me as a test run. If I die, I was wrong. But if I live, you guys were wrong. Admit it. So of course, now he didn't die over a year later. But as was pointed out on a blog I read is that the most recent booster was offered just a few weeks before he was going to appear at like a Mr. Universe contest. So he knowing believers like that want to be boosted up at the last minute. And so I don't think there's any question that this guy was still in incredible shape.

He didn't have a heart attack that they claim. I mean, that's so this is where this is happening all the time. Celebrities are dropping like flies. They don't even bother to tell you what they died of. The Congressman, I think his name is Caston. His daughter was like 17 years old and it took them months to say, well, she died of a heart attack. And then they're pushing this nonsense that, well, it's actually not that uncommon for even preteens to have heart attacks. Again, they're pushing this because they know the myocarditis that is caused by these vaccines. So yeah, it's, it's, we're living, yeah, climate change. The disinformation is everywhere, but, but, but unfortunately that what we're talking about, and of course, if this went up on YouTube, it would instantly be taken down for medical

misinformation. So we can't, there is no other side to this debate. We're not, those two people you're talking about around any stage, ABC or anywhere else, they're not going to allow anyone that's saying anything remotely similar to what we are. They're not even going to allow Naomi Wolf or somebody like that, Glenn Greenwald. They do not allow any kind of debate on this. And it's shocking because by now, Charlie was saying it's going to be the saddest I told you so in the history of the world. But we all should be basically on the entire COVID narrative at this point. We all should be able to say I told you so. And nobody likes doing that. But we're not able to do that. They acknowledge what they basically are acknowledging everything we said was correct. And I have that in my book. I'll show how, you know, what they said was wrong. And then eventually they admitted, oh, you were right. But they're never going to admit that we were right while while acknowledging they were wrong. So it's it's it's terrible times. But it's not an easy book to write, because as Charlie was saying, I have the same way. Everybody in my family is vaccinated except for myself and my kids.

So if Jeff Rents and people like that are right, that everybody that got this thing is going to die within five years or something. And that's what a lot of people believe because of what's in the. And I certainly hope that's wrong. But if that's the case at that point, are they going to be able to hide it? I don't know. That's that's that's most of most of humanity gone you know that's why they got to run the climate change thing it's climate change don't don't watch this hand don't watch this hand watch this hand while i pick your pocket with this hand over here yeah they'll be switching things out like uh magic legend of the main beautifully and and of course we look right now just strategically look at last Yeah, they'll be switching things out like Magic Legend of Maine beautifully. And of course, we look right now just strategically.

Look at last, a little bit over a week ago, Biden said, oh, the pandemic, which is a faulty terminology in the first place. And by the way, Don, I'm so glad when I didn't know you were working on the book until I think maybe last week when you mentioned it on the program. And I thought, oh, that's fantastic. So glad, Don. So you've got a couple of big projects coming. But Biden says, oh, the pandemic is over, you know, promoting like, oh, everything's all hunky dory and beautiful and fine. In the meantime, he doesn't lift the emergency that goes back to March 13th, 2020. And that allows for this time period for tomorrow for the CDC, because that gives legal immunity to Pfizer and Moderna to be able to not be sued until it's put on the children's vaccine requirement list. Yeah. Unbelievable. And that's the thing is that if Biden has said it's over and he's a mess,

I don't know if you saw recently, because Tucker is the only one that does the mainstream media that does have these people on here or there. He's pretty good on it. And he only goes so far, but at least he goes somewhere sometimes. And nobody else does that at the mainstream media that millions of people can see. But he talked about a guy that was just reporting for jury duty. We've all done. I mean, not jury duty. You know, most of us never get picked. I never have been, but you know, there's a huge group of people in a room and then typically they send you home, but that's what he was doing. And the mask, he's in North Carolina, supposedly red state, right? No mask mandates, any mask mandates have been lifted all across the state. There's no sign saying mask, but there was a judge, you know, woke type of judge that apparently wanted mass warrant in his courtroom.

Again, you can't. This has opened the door to that kind of stuff where like I. And so he ended up throwing the guy in jail because he wouldn't put his mask on. I think, yeah. So, I mean, and I point out at the time, what is the difference between that and another judge that, you know, sees a good looking woman standing there and says, you know what? I don't want you wearing any clothes in my courtroom. I mean, is there a difference between that? He would have as much legal right to do that as this idiot did to say you have to wear a mask. Right. I mean, it's just if it's my court and whatever I say goes, then you can pretty

much, it opens the door to everything. But that's what we've done. And it gets into another area, but it really, this entire COVID narrative has stepped it up, has made us go to warp speed, definitely, but it's warp speed tyranny, not a warp speed vaccine. Well, you know, one of the things that, and bringing up that court case, I saw that today over at the Epoch Times. This guy was 47, North Carolina, Gregory Hahn. He was found in contempt of court by the Superior Court Judge Charles Gilchrist. And it reminded me of a friend of mine because he didn't sit down, he didn't stand up quick enough in court. He was found in contempt and he ended up going to, he didn't stand up quick enough in court. He was

found in contempt and he ended up going to jail for, I think it was like two months. And what's fascinating about that as well as I know people who were almost found in contempt because they brought cameras into courtrooms, Don, into courtrooms. And so it makes you think, you know, as an anarchist, I put together the arguments where I say, look, supposedly you have a right to keep and bear arms. Try to exercise that right on a plane. Government won't allow it. And for a time they would give permission for a little while after 9-11 for certain pilots. If you, you know, if you lapped up to them sufficiently as a lapdog, you could get trained and then they'd let you

exercise your so-called rights. So if you have a right to free speech and a right to be able to freely assemble, what is the deal for having a jurisprudential system that also is supposed to ensure people the right to a fair trial? How do you handle the fact that those rights can be brought into opposition in a government run system? In the courtroom, it's going to be very difficult to have a fair trial. Yeah. I'm recycling on you. Yeah. If journalists are not, if journal, if, if you're all the journalists want to go into a courtroom, we want to go into courtroom, then the courtroom might not function. If all the people go in there who want to go in there, you're supposed to have a right to free speech, but you can't do it in a courtroom because that

would interfere with the right of jurisprudential due process for the person being tried. So we can see that a lot of the bill of goods that were sold about the functioning of government and what it's going to protect and what it's doing for our rights, they're absolutely bogus because when you put them into a government context, the tragedy of the commons means that everybody is going to demand that his right takes precedence on that public space. And this is where we get into these lockdown things. You know, when I would talk to people about the lockdowns, I would say, are you familiar with the contract clause of the U. the US Constitution? And they would say, well, what do you mean? I was like, look, the contract clause prohibits state governments from interfering

in preexisting contracts. So if you are my employer and we have an agreement and it says that you can invite me into work and neither of us have to wear masks, then that's part of our deal. It's not in our contract that either of us can tell the other, you've got to wear a mask around me. Now, a third party like say, oh, the governor of New Hampshire, Chris Sununu, can't come in and say, I'm going to breach your contract. I have nothing to do with your businesses in any way whatsoever, but I'm going to tell you how to run your business. That's what they have done with the lockdowns, with the distancing, with all these things. So what I told people is, hey, if you've got private property, it should be based on whether

or not you feel that if someone is inviting you into this private property, you feel that their paradigm for safety is sufficient or insufficient. You decide you enter or you don't enter. It's just like going to a barbecue. If somebody is putting on a private fireworks display, do I feel safe? Do I not feel safe? Right. Then from there, every interaction in which you engage is a private, voluntary, free discourse action. The only areas where we run into these problems are the areas where the government runs

the areas. That's where somebody else has got to decide and everybody fights over what the safety protocol is going to be. And not everybody can be satisfied. That's one of the main reasons why I'm an anarchist. Practically, government never works. It pits people against each other. And it's just ridiculous. Well, I can't, as I said, I've been saying a lot lately, I can't argue with anarchists anymore. I mean, what basis do I argue from? I mean, the authority is so bad, all authority is so bad at this point that it's difficult to say that it would be better, it wouldn't be better to not have any authority. What would you have chaos? Well, we have

kind of organized chaos now. And you talk about that's one of the worst aspects of this COVID narrative is that not only, we already, the libertarians, and of course, I've had a lot of years where I consider myself a libertarian or a lot of strong libertarian impulses, but we used to talk about every time they propose a new law, that's that your spidey sense goes up because we already have too many laws. And the problem is every time you create a new law, it creates new criminals, right? We already have too many criminals. So libertarians understood that. But here you have, and I don't know that there's been great libertarian opposition to this COVID narrative, you know, as far as just being libertarians. But when this opened the door to not only laws, we already have too many laws,

but they started talking about this, these mandates get thrown around. What are mandates? What does that even mean? What is the legal basis for a mandate? Or are they just, you know, decrees? I mean, these are things that you picture back in medieval times with, you know, somebody blowing a bugle and, you know, the king kind of, you know, the royal decree is said, you know, from now on, you must, you know, beat the lily pads all night so that the frogs don't keep the kings awake. You know, which they actually did. But those are the kind of decrees and mandates you had. That's what they've done here. These things. And so the judge like that. So when you already have an out of control judiciary, as we've had, you know, because of the concept of judicial review, as my friend Lisa Belanger knows, I hope she's listening, that she knows how bad this is, but she deals with judges like this all the time. So your chance at justice shouldn't be based on the temperament of the judge that came in. If you give them that much power, we all have bad days.

You had an argument with your wife. Something's gone wrong. You come into the, you know, and you're not, oh, the judge isn't in a good mood today. What do you mean he's not in a good mood? So I could get the book thrown at me because he's not in a good mood. Something really wrong with a system like that that gives that much power to one person and where he can say you didn't stand up quick enough. So I'm holding you in contempt court and you can't argue with the judge because if you argue, you're in contempt. You're in contempt. And it's all done supposedly to protect other people,

right, Tony? We talked about, and Don, you're probably familiar with this. Obviously, you know the guys from the new prisoners, number six and those guys. Yes. And, you know, the series, The Prisoner and on The Prisoner in one of the episodes, The Chimes of Big Ben. At the end of it, they had the world exploding at the end credits and it said pop. And that's probably that series is one of the most sophisticated. I think it's the most sophisticated TV series ever made. And I mean, it's it's Shakespearean level sophistication. And it's fascinating because it goes to the heart of the Lockean, again, to get philosophical.

But the roots of this are philosophical problems upon which people build their normalcy biases or politicians take advantage of them. And then they accrue these different crises and the government answers. And then the populace gets the normalcy bias from there. But philosophically, the normalcy bias comes from the idea that the government is there to protect other people, to protect people from other people. So the pop thing appears in the prisoner and you don't know what it means. It's got the world and it says pop and it's like this big explosion but in the second to last episode you see leo mccurn who plays number two going up against number six and they're in this weird psychological battle of the wills and leo mccurn starts saying pop pop pop to number six and number six saying pop pop he's been drugged

or it looks like he's been drugged but but he's actually playing with number two. And he says, protect other people, protect other people. And then you realize what they're doing is they're making fun of the assumption that you have to accept that the government is there to protect people from other people. Because of course, the government is the shakedown, the shakedown machine. And this is what it's all about. That court system, we've got to silence people. You've got to stand up. You've got to go through all their kabuki rituals in order to protect other people. The MacGuffin on climate, you've got to stop your carbon usage because we need to protect other people. We are deciding what the threat is. We're going to tell you what it is. We've got the scientists, alchemists. We've got the pharmakia. And they'll tell us what the threat is. COVID-19, cowabunga-19, it's the threat.

Protect other people. Shut down your stinking business or we're going to arrest you. Right? Yeah. I want to welcome Billy Ray Valentine to the stream as well, Joe. Hey. What's up, everybody? How you as well hey what's up everybody how you doing hey billy ray how you doing we're gonna finish out very strong you know what we've been talking about billy is is that there is nobody in government is advocating that we have a real debate on what just happened to us in the past 36 months i mean really that's

that's what we're extracting the last 30 minutes have been just about how crazy things are, and then no one's talking about it. And what the court of public opinion is going on is one of the themes of the show today, and things that I've noticed I talked about with Charlie Robinson is that I'm seeing stories. You can just look at the front page of summit.news. The lead story, the Australian government is offering to pay for funerals of those who die from COVID vaccines. The Moderna CEO admits COVID is like seasonal flu, only vulnerable need jabs. And there's also a story up on technocracy.news where 80 anti-vaccine bills have been introduced into state legislatures.

Now, the reason I'm bringing this up, and this is just a tip, and we've talked about the Pfizer executives saying that they didn't test for efficacy, they didn't have time, they had to go at the speed of science. There's something crumbling here. Now, I know governments aren't really picking it up, and I know that there's the legislatures. We'll talk a little. I'll give a little highlight from this on technocracy.news. But the court of public opinion, they've again, we've been having this debate in alternative media and anywhere you can actually talk about it without getting censored, which is in very many places anymore. I think the tide is turning in some areas of this, and I don't think that the current narrative can survive it. I mean, that's one of the reasons I believe that they're pushing for a misdirection with a global conflict.

But I wanted to welcome you to the show and to the debate. Thank you, buddy. How are you? How's everybody? Good, Billy Ray. Good to see you, man. Good to see you, man. Good to see you, too. I don't know, Tone. I really feel like sites like Summit.News, right, or even Technocracy News and Trends, which I subscribe to and I go to all the time, right?

I feel like sites like this are part of our echo chamber, right? And I feel like while in the alternative media and people that follow the alternative media, and it's kind of overflowing, right? The cup of the information water that is the alternative media is kind of overflowing and it's going out to other places where it typically wouldn't, right? I still don't think it's merged with the ocean of the mainstream. Right. And I think that there are plenty of people that and I see it. Of course, I'm here in New York. Right. And I realize this is the liberal capital of the world. And I realize, you know, people here operate very differently than most of the world. But

there's a lot of people. Well, there's a lot of people that were, you know people here operate very differently than most of the world but there's a lot of people well there's a lot of people that were you know not happy about having to take these shots not happy about um being forced to do so and all of this other stuff and probably wouldn't have done it um otherwise there are a whole set of people that are on their fourth and fifth voluntarily you know they're, please give it to me. And they're going forward with this and doing this. So while I want to believe that the tide is turning and I want to believe that people are waking up, quote unquote, to all the information and we're really ready to launch a massive pushback on these people when it comes to this. And I think there is a possibility for it. So I don't want to sound completely, you know, incredulous to this.

There is a possibility that we can make it happen. I still think we have a really tall mountain to climb when it comes to this. If we continue to surround ourselves with information that is favorable to our worldview, right, then we will think that this is the case, right? And we'll go around saying, it's happening. It's happening. You know, people are really turning to this. You know, it's not. It's not happening.

There's a whole other world out there, a whole other half or maybe more. Right. And then that and we still have a whole lot of work to do if we're going to bring them over to our side and not necessarily saying that that vaccines are bad for you. Right. That vaccines will kill you. And there's evidence to this. Right. But but I don't think that's that's the approach we need to take. What we need to do is argue on behalf of freedom and say, well, I respect your opinion and I respect you wanting to take these shots for you and your family. If that's the best thing that you think you can do, you go right ahead and do so. But please respect my opinion and please respect my right for my body and let me abstain from these things. Leave me alone. That's where we need to come to.

That's the middle line with this stuff, in my opinion. Will we start seeing, and I think we've already seen a certain amount of death, but who's exposed to that? You know, is it just us? How many people outside of the alternative media know about this stuff to a level that we can argue effectively? Right. Outside of the alternative media, people aren't even thinking about this at this point. And when when Joe Biden says the pandemic is over, it pissed people off. But some people just went about their business. And then when people got pissed off, they got pissed off for the wrong reasons. You know, they're like, well, what do you mean the pandemic is over?

It can't be over. It's never over. I was listening to Democracy Now! I listen to Democracy Now! almost every morning off and on for over 20 years. And they were talking about, well, they had a black activist come on and he was talking about how can Joe Biden possibly say that the pandemic is over when there's so many minorities dying of this thing, so many minorities coming down with it. And this is the arguing point, right? It's turned automatically into a racial thing, right? So, I mean, so people that are upset about this aren't necessarily upset about it for the right reasons, right? And then when we have the head of Moderna saying whatever he's saying, how many people are actually listening to it? And even Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson will go on

and report it. So people take it, It goes in one ear, out the other, and they're done. Or they're using it in an argument over dinner. They're sitting down, well, you heard what Tucker Carlson said. You shouldn't even take it. I mean, the Moderna guy is saying that COVID is just seasonal. And that's it. That's the end of it. It's a discussion point so you can show how smart you are or you can tell other people how uninformed they are. And then you keep going about your business. So you can show how smart you are or you can tell other people how uninformed they are. Right. And then you keep going about your business. So nothing really ever gets done. So while I am not overly optimistic about how many people are receiving the message and how many people are receiving the appropriate message or taking the right context out of that message,

I still think that we can push back and I still think we're having an effect. We just shouldn't get carried away with how much of that is actually happening. We need to taper this and realize that there's something outside of this bubble that we currently reside, if that makes any sense. makes total sense don what do you think yeah i mean certainly you know i there's so many aspects of the story that's again when i get this book done it's just going to be uh it's going to all be in one place for people to see and you can see from the very beginning how the story progressed how we relied like at the end but i'm going to say you know never forget the empty hospital videos, never forget the dancing TikTok nurses, you know, because this has been a production from start to

finish. And they're basically admitting it now. You know, when you're, and is, you know, people talked about the, and of course you still have the conservatives on the right that are, again, misdirection, which Rand Paul engages in, where, you know, what was going on in that Wuhan lab? Did they create a bioweapon? Well, a bioweapon was created. It's the vaccine. It wasn't COVID. That's the bioweapon. And people need to understand it was all because of that.

And I think the eugenicists finally got their wish. But there was a mention in the story, I guess, from Technocrats News about Australia offering to pay for a funeral. And you know, my brother was killed in the hospital by COVID protocols. And, you know, officially he died of COVID. FEMA. Now, why is FEMA involved? They told us at the funeral parlor, well, you know, you get up to $9,000 off of funeral costs from FEMA if COVID is on the death certificate. I said, what? What is FEMA? But of course, we'll take it. And that's what we didn't get quite the night because they judged something. So I think we got 7,600 or something.

But it paid a large chunk of it. So, of course, if they're doing that for everybody that they kill, basically, because that's what they're doing. They're killing them with their protocols, but they're listing COVID-19 as the cause of death. If that's on there, people are getting relief from these exorbitant funeral costs. And that right there will distract most people. Well, you know, they did everything they could to save them. And look, they paid a lot of our funeral costs. And then they'll waive medical bills. Now, after my brother died, I had a bunch of people on my show that have gone through the same things. I haven't met anybody that did the same thing. I got a letter a few days after he died. Of course, it was addressed to him and thanking him for the fact they were able to serve him and they killed him. But that's the insensitivity of the medical industrial complex. But they waived whatever

was left of his medical bills. And then they sent me a letter. I very seldom go to doctors and I stay away from them, but I had some very small bills that I refused to pay. And they waived my bills too. Isn't that interesting? And again, if you have any familiarity with this awful system, they never waive anything. And they never pay for anything. Much as people talked about the memes out there with the vaccine, people are dying every day because they can't get insulin. Or they can't afford chemotherapy or whatever. They never give that for free. So why are they giving this vaccine

for free? Why are they pushing it on children? The answer is so obvious, especially when you look at the people that are pushing it. Just look at the statements of Bill Gates and all these other people. These are bloodthirsty eugenicists. They fantasize the billions, if not billions of people dying. And it's on the record everywhere from Prince Philip and Jacques Cousteau and Ted Turner, going back to people I like, like George Bernard Shaw and even Nikola Tesla. These people, Woodrow Wilson got his start as one of the first eugenicists in America as the governor of New Jersey I'll have that in Hidden History 3 about how he passed the first forced sterilization law and again that was part of it it's part of eugenics and that's how he got his

start and the guy he named to lead that program in New Jersey went on later to show up in Germany during World War II. And even though he was a Jew, the Germans said, I like the cut of his jib. And they put him in charge as the camp physician at Buchenwald. So isn't that an interesting connection that the guy that ran Woodrow Wilson's eugenicist forced sterilization program ended up at Buchenwald later, decades later. Those are the kind of connections you find in history, but there's a thread throughout all this. Eugenicist, there's a reason why Dr. Jack Kovorkin, I've written about that in the past too, why he was so beloved by the culture. Dr. Death. This is a guy, even as a student, he volunteered for the night shift so he could watch people die. These are psychotic people. And he was celebrated. People in the media loved

the celebrities, loved him as much as they love this guy, Zelensky. So this is, you know, we're looking at, I think probably the culmination. We've always talked about how are they going to do it? You know, they keep talking about they want to, well, I think we're seeing how they're doing it. The death rate went up by 40% last year. It's going to go up even higher than that this year, I'm sure. This is it, folks. This is not going to be an year. It's going to go up even higher than that this year, I'm sure. This is it, folks. This is not going to be an asteroid. It's not going to be, you know, whatever. It's certainly not COVID. This is the warp speed vaccine. They are culling the herd. Henry Kissinger is still alive, the world's first obese 99-year-old guy. No medical special things there, but he's cool, man. You know, who said obesity was a

problem? He must be just celebrating nonstop because he, you know, he's the first one that talked about all the useless eaters. So they're getting rid of the useless eaters. Yeah. Speaking of Henry Kissinger, Don, it's, uh, it's pretty bad when even Henry Kissinger gets goes, Hey guys, you get to stop what you're doing. You're going to cause the Armageddon. And that's pretty bad. The Ukraine thing, yeah. Well, you know, it's funny that Billy Ray should bring up the point that he was bringing up. Because I was going to mention something. And then Billy Ray's point just perfectly leads into sort of what was going on in my mind.

And I was thinking about how Billy Ray is down there in the low of such a big left-wing enclave and how here we get to talk to each other. We get to share ideas, and we feel very comfortable about these things. But when you're down there, if you're in Brooklyn or the Bronx or you're in Manhattan or something like that, the pressure cooker, it's on you. You know, it's like the old TV series, I Shied with Joe Don Baker was always a pressure cooker. It's a pressure cooker. And it's just one of those deals where I actually feel really good. And Don, I wanted to mention this to you. I know that you know that you've been shadow banned on Twitter. I don't know about you guys.

Yeah, someone informed me and I mentioned it on one of the other programs. I know David has had all sorts of problems on Twitter. And I've had problems. You know, MRCTV has been shadow banned or banned on Facebook for times and YouTube and I've been shut out, everybody. But I think it's very interesting because there's a growth here that gives me almost the same comfort

that I get from looking at Beans the Brave there on your lap, Tony. That's a beautiful shot. It's just great. And I think it's the recognition now that we know that we have forces up against us trying to, not only forces who aren't listening to us and aren't interested in what we have to hear, they're listening to the pop media and those outlets are still very strong there. But I think there is something that we're becoming very aware and

have been aware for quite a while, that if we're going to spread our message, we need to overtly make networks and connections with people and ask people, remember, please remember, recycle, get this information out there, make a network of people, make sure you go to websites over and over again, technocracy, not just for your own edification, but to make a regular habit and finding outlets to get this information out there to other people. I just keep thinking about that because I know that especially those of us who are at Rockfin talking, David's program in particular, you know how difficult it has been for him to be able to get information out there, whether it's Spotify shutting him down and things like that, or Don, as you say, being shadow banned.

So I think there's a growing awareness now that in order to get our message out there to other outlets, we need to work harder. And I don't know how you feel about that, Billy Ray, but it's sort of dovetailed with what you were saying, because I kept thinking about that. Not only are we talking to people who are aware of this, but in order to get that message out, I think that somehow we've got to come up with greater efforts and more ability to be able to sneak in and at least try to work harder in a diligent fashion every day to share links and contact people who can get the message out. No, I think you're absolutely right. We need to act as if our lives depend on it and our future depends on it because in all actuality it does. So we need to go out there and try to spread the word or plant a seed. Because sometimes you try to spread the word and

you get slapped in the face for it or you get spat at or whatever. So just plant a seed, right? Because sometimes you try to spread the word and you get slapped in the face for it or you get spat at, you know, or whatever. So just plant a seed and walk away. Let it take shape, you know? Yeah, absolutely. That's what we need to do. And I think sometimes the information that we get out of the alternative media, whether it be right or wrong, it serves to sometimes make us become a little bit complacent or arrogant. I told you so, I told you so, I told you so. That's not going to work. That's not going to work to get people on our side. So, I mean, there's a lesson to be

learned from all of it. And just because you see all this information out there and you think that everybody knows it doesn't mean that you should stop spreading it because there's definitely somebody out there that doesn't or somebody out there that has a different point of view than you do. And they'll argue it effectively. A lot of smart people out there that will argue a wrong point and win a debate on it because they're just that smart. So I mean, we need to continue to plant the seed and hope for the best when it comes to it. That would I mean, that's the only way we're going to we're going to take back our freedom. It's really the only way if we do it in any other way, in particular, a violent way, it's

not going to work out. It's just not going to, you know, so this is this is our best chance at turning the tide. And I want to say that shows like this, the David Knight show, I mean, this show is key to keep on the air, to keep spreading the information. The research here is second to none. That's why I'm so proud to be a part of it. The small part that I can offer up my services to fill in for David so he can spend time with family when he needs a break. And you gentlemen are here. It's just an honor. And we all have our own role here. fill in for davis so he can you know spend time with family when he needs a break and uh you

gentlemen are here it's just an honor and we we all have our own role here but we want the truth to come out we want people to have the best information because we know that this is a plan i mean i don't care where you stand on conspiracy theory or conspiracy analyzation this is a plan they are carrying something out. There is an agenda behind the rollout of not only the Trump shot and the lockdown itself, but what's happening geopolitically. And I think that, again, I've talked many times about how I have a kind of a love affair with pessimism because I find it to be the most intellectual. And I do, I, since my early twenties, when I read the death of the West by Buchanan, I just thought, wow, I just,

this is, this speaks to me that, you know, and I tend to go down that path, but I also look at the headlines and I think that we are, there is a crack in the narrative and I'm thinking that, that there has been a slowdown. They have been, they have been backing off at least on the accelerator on what they're doing with covet 1984 so i'm interested in where that leads and if we can keep the pressure on and we can continue to because there's people walking into my shop this is i'm getting a sampling in real time

and yeah i'm in the precious metals business so it does translate into a certain demographic of people that are probably tuning into more alternative sources. But I mean, almost everybody to a person who's never bought metals before is saying things like, well, if the world exists in five years, or, you know, like I don't believe anything that the government's doing. I don't, and these are people that probably two or three years ago were just normal, you know?

And now they're like, oh, well, this whole thing is rigged. I think that's trend that is bleeding into society faster than we recognize it. Because we're, we're not seeing the progress that we want to see. But if as long as we don't give up, if we if we never, never, never quit, right, then we have a chance at winning. We know we're, we're not going to be we're not going to be able to win if we give up and walk away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're right, Ben. I think what both Billy and Gard had said earlier about preaching to the choir, I think that's why it's important that we don't give up on these big forums. And I wish more pushback would go against the social media platforms. I am Shadowban on Twitter. It's even worse on Facebook. I can't, you know, I have the maximum amount of friends there. It used to be a great platform to promote. It's worthless now because if I post something personal, like I was taking a picture of myself

at a concert, then yeah, I still get hundreds of people. But if I post anything at all about political, forget that. But if I even post anything, trying to promote something like promoting being on this show or, or one of my interviews or my books or something or a sub stack or whatever, there are only a few people see it. And I hear all the time, well, I'm just getting this like a week later. It'll hold it up. So that does really make it harder. But we have to keep fighting. And that's why it will be interesting to see this Elon Musk story with Twitter has been going on for what, months? And I don't understand how many times they said he's definitely bought

it. And again, I don't trust Elon Musk, but you would have to think that things would loosen up at least some if he gets in there. Otherwise, I would think something would come back on him because that's all he's talked about. So it'll be interesting to see if I'm still a shadow band there then, if I can do Twitter spaces again, unfettered because they started messing with me there, where they stopped the notifications from going out. So if we have one big media platform, that social media platform, that's what we need because we can go to Rumble. We can go to Gab.

We can use our own platforms. But we are kind of preaching to the choir there. We're not going to make that many new converts there. The great thing that back when YouTube was uncensored was you could find new people. People could stumble across your video. Anybody could have. And wow, that makes sense. I've had people tell me that. Now that's impossible because YouTube has gotten rid of most of those people or they, like if I attempted to put this on my channel or anything, it's medical misinformation automatically. So they don't allow it. So we need to try to keep fighting in their arena, at least because there still aren't enough of us.

And I agree with Tony that things are loosening up. And, Tony, I suggest if you really want to get the ultimate pessimist handbook, read Ambrose Bierce's The Devil's Dictionary, one of my favorite books of all time. It's incredible. You will love it. I mean, anybody that defines – his definition of a year was a period of 365 disappointments. This guy was incredible. His definition of birth, the first and greatest of all, the first and direst of all disasters, that's how he defined birth. So, you know, he was absolutely brilliant. He was to such a degree that it actually made you smile. It would me, it gave me some kind of comfort, but you will, and God only knows what Ambrose would be talking about in terms of the COVID narrative and the tyranny we see today.

But I think that it's, you know, we need to do what we can because the people that, what you're sensing, I think, is that there are some more people waking up, but the people that are awake are just getting more and more restless. The natives are getting restless. And they look at us as natives. The natives are getting restless. And they look at us as natives. The natives are getting restless. And because it's those of us that understand how stupid all that, how ridiculous it all is. Our tolerance level is really dropping to almost zero. But the people that are buying it, I think it may be some of it's wearing off, but they have their heels are dug in. And they're never going to admit people like us are right. I mean, I can tell you, my family, you think they're ever going to admit that I'm right? I mean, they've got a lot vested in this, you know, because I mean, I don't want to

say I told you so. Maybe they're scared of hearing that I told you so, but they're never going to admit the crazy people, the crazy conspiracy theorists, the irresponsible, the dangerous, all this disinformation and misinformation actually was coming from the other side and you swallowed it. I don't think they're ever going to admit it. Just like the people that are dug into 9-11 or JFK or anything else. They're just, the core destroys. They're never going to admit they were wrong ever. That's why they won't let John Wilkes Booth's body be exhumed to this day, even though his family wants it. Because even

though it would be meaningless, what would, okay, his body's not buried there, that would open up a little bit of a can of worms, but it's not going to affect our politics today. But it would show that they're liars, and that they prevented it for a long time. So they're vested in all of these things. If they're vested in something 150 years old, more than that, they're certainly going to be vested in something like this. They have a lot invested in this and they're not going to allow people like us to expose it unless we start to outnumber them. And that's what we have to keep trying to do. And so you wake up the people you can. That's why I still hold out hopes of going on Tucker Carlson or anybody that would invite me, because it doesn't mean I have to support them, but that's a platform. And maybe out of the,

you know, the millions or whatever that are watching that, maybe a few people, hey, that makes sense. That's what we have to do is tiny ripples of hope, as Robert F. Kennedy said. Well, how can I be too much of a pessimist when Donald Jeffries is wearing a Wise Wolf hoodie? Exactly. I was going to say, there you go. You see you say most comfortable hoodie i've ever had we got about we got about eight minutes gentlemen uh i'm open for you we can do a free-for-all you can talk about your projects uh and then i got to do a sign off i want to thank uh the david knight audience the david knight family uh travis everybody who made this possible and guard and and uh both of you i mean mean, and Billy and Don,

the America unplugged cast. So, uh, guard, I'll throw it to you. You got a couple of minutes. You want to plug anything? Closing thoughts? Yeah, sure. Thanks a lot, Tony. And it's great to be on with you guys again. Uh, it's just been an absolute pleasure and, uh, congratulations again to Travis on his wedding and, uh, all the best to the Knight family and to everybody in the Rockfin chat. I know I missed a couple of the chats yesterday. And so I got to look through them yesterday. Some great links, by the way, from thrown up by a bunch of people. Mark, in particular, thank you.

And but yeah, so if people are interested and they want to find my stuff, of course, uh, uh, I do the bulk of my work for mrctv.org and, uh, they can go over there and see my pieces, work with Eric Shiner, Eric's great, but it's all individuals. And so it's sort of like Rockfin in a way where you can sign on or you can see stuff free, that sort of thing. So whether or not that is sustainable and big, it's not quite as sustainable, I think, as Rockfin. Rockfin is, I think, a really good idea. But I think Substack is going to be doing pretty well supporting free speech. And I think is Rockfin. Rockfin is, I think, a really good idea. But I think Substack is going to be doing pretty well supporting free speech. And I think a lot of good people are over there. So I'm over there. And Don, I know you're over there doing your thing. And so I share stuff from Don sometimes. And I welcome people to see my stuff. They're allowing us to post videos over there, which is great. And then over on BitChute and Odyssey and Rumble,

it's Liberty Conspiracy. And check out the videos over there. And of course, my fiction is over on Amazon. And I'm planning on restarting or starting a new YouTube channel strictly about fiction in order to be able to sort of bleed people over in addition to talking about quality fiction and moral themes in film and television,

based on my Star Trek experience and things like that, I want to be able to at least mention once in a while the political stuff that can be found elsewhere or test the waters in doing things politically on YouTube. We'll see how it goes. But right now, I've got a few novels that are supposed to be coming out, a couple novellas still waiting on those. So I'll just keep silent on that. Thanks for being here,

guard. And of course, Billy Ray Valentine, host of the infinite fringe podcast, researcher, truth seeker from the Bronx, New York. What do you got going on,

Billy? What's up, buddy? Thank you for having me on. Thank you to the David Knight audience and David Knight himself. Appreciate all of you. Thank you, Don and guard. The infinite fringe dot pod beam.com. me on thank you to the david knight audience and david knight himself appreciate all you thank you don and guard um the infinite fringe.podbeam.com go check it out did an interview with uh john

potash hadn't had him on in in a while and uh it was fun and we spoke about eugenics and and the history of vaccines and um a whole deal uh ib the Holocaust Edwin Black was the guy who wrote that book I read it years ago actually I didn't read it I listened to it but it was fantastic I do own it but I wasn't aware of all the other books

that he had written and there's a ton of stuff there so anyway go listen to it on the fringe the Infinite Fringe on Podbean, The Infinite Fringe on Apple Podcast. You'll find it there. And America Unplugged, Saturday at 12 p.m. Eastern on Rockfish. Don, you've got a couple of minutes. Plug away, sir.

I want to make sure people can find you. Yeah. Well, I was on a lot of things going on. Donald Jeffries at Media is my website. You can find out everything there. As Gard indicated, I'm a a lot of things going on. Donald Jeffries.media is my website. You can find out everything there. As Gard indicated, I'm a big fan of Substack. I write there regularly, donaldjeffries.substack.com. Growing there.

It's a slow process, but it's getting there. And it's a nice audience, so I like to use that. I've stopped writing on my blog, so anybody that was a fan of my WordPress blog, I tried to say I'm over Substack now so I don't duplicate stuff. And obviously my books, I have six of them out there. And Gard talked about fiction.

I have one novel, The Unreals. I'd still like to, I have two other novels that are sitting there I can't get anybody to look at. I'm primarily a novelist. As I said, that's what I consider myself. I just started writing nonfiction because I got frustrated and it ended up being easier for me to get that published.

But I still, in my heart of hearts, I miss plotting and creating characters and dialogue and all that. And just coming up with story ideas because I do have an imagination. But people that can sample the unreels, which has been out there for a long time. And obviously my other books, Unbarred Fame is the most recent about showbiz. I write about other things, but I've completed Hidden History 3, sent it to the publisher, and we'll see if Skyhorse goes with it. It's going to have a lot of great stuff in there from the founding fathers all the way through, lots and lots of stuff about Woodrow Wilson and FDR,

Joe McCarthy, deep diving into JFK and JFK Jr., 9-11, all kinds of stuff. And as I mentioned earlier, I'm also finishing up a novel. I wait on that. I'm not novel. Finishing up a book on the plandemic, Tenants of Titles, Masking the Truth. So it's going to be all about what we're talking about and just going over all the information that's been there from the beginning. And you can see how the narrative has changed, but how it was a lie. It was based on a lie from the very beginning and how people just bought it. And as I said, many times the entire world was taken over, was shut down within about a week or so, the entire world. And as I've also said, we're worried about World War III, and that may happen. I don't know. We seem to be on the precipice of it all the time or for weeks. But I believe we've been at World

War III for a long time. And it's the first genuine worldwide. It is a world war. And it's the governments and the leaders of all countries against their people. And I think that's where we stand right now, that we are in World War III. And most people that are losing this battle because they have no power, the mass of people, don't even realize there is a war. It's very similar to what I talked about in Survival of the Riches, the class war, where class warfare has been going on for a long time. But the problem is one side doesn't even know there is a war. And if they fight back at all, it's all you're talking about class warfare. Well, no, there's a war, but now we have to there is a war. And if they fight back at all, it's all, you're talking about class warfare. Well, no, there's a war, but now we have to deal with world war.

So, anyhow, I'm easy to find. DonaldJeffries.media is my website. People can find that more than they want to about me. And, of course, I protest every Friday this same fine channel, 5 to 7 p.m., produced by Tony Ardenburn. You can find it right here on Rockfin. Well, thanks for being here, Don.

All of you gentlemen, thanks for being here. And thanks so much to the David Knight audience for your patience. I am not David Knight. I do my best. I don't have that engineer's mind. I'm a little bit more chaotic. And you can find me over at the Arterburn Radio Transmission. Arterburn.news is my website.

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continue to support the program. Continue to support David Knight at TheDavidKnightShow.com Looks like I hit the David Knight at thedavidknightshow.com. Looks like I hit the intro just at the right time, too, Gard. I did it. I did it again one more time. You're a master. I was able to get it done for the last show.

Thanks, everybody. It just means so much to me. Thanks to the David Knight family for your trust. I will be back soon, I'm sure. David will be here tomorrow. Thank God. See you all. Take care of back soon. I'm sure David will be here tomorrow. Thank God. See y'all.