The David Knight Show - 25Apr23 Tucker: BigPharma, Epps, Dominion and Does His Weekend Speech Show a New Direction?

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

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Starting point is 00:02:11 Isn't that interesting? And we're going to begin by talking about what happened with Tucker Carlson. It's everywhere on the news, and I think it is important news. Why was he fired and what is ahead? I think there's a lot to learn about this. And we'll talk about all the different speculations, what I think it is. I'll tell you what I believe is behind this. And perhaps there may be something good that comes out of this.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Stay with us. We'll be right back. Well, I think Tucker was fired about a half hour before this program ended. I saw it right away after the show ended, and I said right away what I thought was behind it. And as I look at all of the confidential sources that have spoken and so forth, and articles that have been written, all the different theories about what is behind this, I stick to my original opinion. But this is what Fox News did about 15 minutes after the news break. We have some news from within our Fox family. Fox News Media and Tucker Carlson have mutually agreed to part ways.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Tucker's last show was this past Friday. And starting tonight, Fox News Tonight will air live at 8 p.m. Eastern. It will be an interim show with rotating Fox News personalities until a new host is named. We want to thank Tucker Carlson for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a long-term contributor. Yeah, well, that was Faulkner talking about it. And of course, when you look at the fact they don't even have anybody set to go, I don't think
Starting point is 00:04:11 it was a mutual decision. Whose decision was it? Was it Tucker Carlson? Did he quit? Was he fired? You have these executives who kind of know just get this guy out. I can I kind of know, uh, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Just get this guy out. I can't, you know what he said or what's happening with this. We got to get this guy out right now. I don't care. We don't have anybody to cover the thing tonight. I'll do it myself. Uh, but of course, um, you didn't have Rupert Murdoch do the show. Unlike some other people.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Anyway, did he quit? Was he fired? What will he do next? A lot of people have talked about why would this happen? He was the number one show on Fox. His number one show everywhere, everywhere. And of course it's, they've taken a hit financially. You know, their stock was up earlier in the day and then, uh, lost about 5%.
Starting point is 00:05:01 At one point, I don't know where it is right now. But then there's a lot of questions. Was this fallout from the Dominion lawsuit? Was this part of the settlement requirement? I discounted that right away because I believe that if that were the case, you would have seen contributors like Bartiromo and Hannity go first because they were far more into this Trump thing than Tucker was. Was it because of the Ray Epps 60 Minutes thing? Was it because of his opposition to Big Pharma, which he came out with on, I think it was Wednesday of last week, Wednesday or Thursday of last week. I hadn't seen that.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And I saw a comment from RFK Jr. about that that I'll show you. And I started looking for that. I thought, whoa, that's pretty amazing. I'm going to play that comment because you can see that Tucker was obviously nervous about it. He was breathing a little bit heavy, and he was very nervous about it. See if you think that. I certainly thought that.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Was it because some people said, AOC is demanding it? Yeah, she did demand it, but she doesn't have that kind of clout. We don't have to pretend that she did. So we'll look at all that. We'll look at what he might do now as well. The LA Times reported that he was pushed out by Rupert Murdoch suddenly. And of course, they said the people familiar with the situation who were not authorized to comment publicly said the decision to fire Carlson came
Starting point is 00:06:40 straight from Fox corporation, chairman Rupert Murdoch with input from board members and other Fox corporate executives. They wrote this about an hour and 15 minutes after the firing. According to one person familiar with the discussions, Murdoch's son, Lachlan, and Suzanne Scott, chief executive of Fox News Media, decided late Friday that Carlson had to go. Now, they're saying late Friday. That still doesn't preclude that it had something to do with the 60 Minutes hit piece. What I said from the very beginning was I said, do you look at what they did on 60 Minutes with Ray Epps? And it was all Ray Epps versus Tucker.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Ray Epps versus Tucker over and over again. They personalized it to Tucker. And I said, well, obviously, you know, they know that there's another lawsuit coming, perhaps. And so this would be one way to preemptively shut that off. I think not necessarily. I mean, you have a certain amount of time to correct something if it's false. But, um, if you do this right after Ray Epps comes out and says, Tucker Carlson is coming after me and so forth, that might be something that would inoculate him from a future lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Considering the fact that they had a big settlement that they did with dominion, there's an even bigger lawsuit coming from smart Matic. That's twice the size of the dominion lawsuit. And, uh, do they really want to fight for, you know, Tucker Carlson coming after Ray Epps? I don't think so. Uh, it's, um, it's not, uh, just as they did not want to go to trial. They would not want to have that happen again. They wouldn't want to go through all the discoveries.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Like let's, let's stop this. Anything that looks like a lawsuit at this point in time, I would think that Rupert Murdoch would just immediately pull the plug. That's why I said that's what I thought it was about. The Ray Epps thing. Carlson's exit is related to the discrimination lawsuit filed by Abby Grossberg, the producer fired by the network last month, said sources. Carlson's senior executive producer, Justin Wells, has also been terminated, according to insiders. And so, again, another lawsuit. That could be it, more so than the Ray Epps thing,
Starting point is 00:08:59 or it could be both of these combined. Like, I'm going to keep this guy around and get two more lawsuits? Grossberg was moved off of Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo and on to the Tucker Carlson Tonight, where she alleged that she was bullied and subjected to anti-Semitic comments, according to a lawsuit in New York. The former Fox News producer said
Starting point is 00:09:24 she was coerced by company lawyers to give misleading answers in the dominion defamation case. Fox news denied the claims that she was terminated for disclosing privileged company information. Murdoch is also said to be concerned about Carlson's coverage of January the sixth. Uh, the host was,
Starting point is 00:09:42 has promoted the conspiracy theory that it was provoked by government agents, not a conspiracy theory, and has called Ray Epps an FBI plant without presenting any evidence. Epps was interviewed Sunday on 60 Minutes, said he's been subjected to death threats as a result of Carlson's statements about him. The FBI told 60 Minutes that Epps had never worked for the agency says LA times. But when you look at this, this is the same thing that was done. Uh, they, you know, first they do some character assassination in the media.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Then they file the lawsuit. And that's what was going on with, um, um, Alex Jones and Megan Kelly and, uh, the, you know, Sandy hook lawsuit. That and the Sandy Hook lawsuit. That's the way they operate. I think that's a bigger issue than this employee dispute. That'd be something that'd be easily settled if, in fact, there was any truth to it whatsoever, which I doubt since the ADL is involved in that as well. And they're probably involved in that not because of any anti-sympathism,
Starting point is 00:10:45 but because they dislike Tucker's politics. We've seen that over and over again from the ADL. The ADL has called me anti-Semitic. I'm not anti-Semitic. It's nonsense. They hate the fact that I'm free market conservative. Perhaps I hate the fact that I'm Christian. I don't know, but they hate what I have to say.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It's not that I hate Jews. I don't hate Jews. I hate what I have to say. It's not that I hate Jews. I don't hate Jews. I'm not anti-Semitic. They throw that label around to everybody, and they denigrate that label. Look, there's people who are really hateful and racist, and we need to not give them a pass by crying wolf, but that is a tactic of ADL.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Anyway, some of the comments that Carlson made about Fox News management and communications turned up in the discovery process for the case may have played a role in his downfall. They said, uh, some of the things that he wrote, texted others. We devote our lives to building an audience. He said, and they let Chris Wallace and Leland effing Vedder Vedder record. Now Vedder is a Fox news reporter who was criticizing Trump. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You know, you're, you're going to wreck this by criticizing Trump. And this is one of the reasons look, Tucker Carlson, as we see in these messages had skewed his stuff, right? Privately. He didn't believe any of this stuff about the election publicly. He said something very different. That's a big issue. It's a big issue for very different. That's a big issue. It's a big issue for his audience.
Starting point is 00:12:07 It's a big issue for a lawsuit, right? That is really the smoking gun. And it wasn't even Tucker as much as it was Hannity and other people, but Tucker was a part of that. And if they are going to deliberately lie in order to get audience, that's the essence of the defamation lawsuit from dominion. Um, it is a defense.
Starting point is 00:12:29 If you sincerely believe it's true, uh, it, you know, it doesn't show malice, but if you believe that, uh, you know, something is a false that you're saying and you're doing it and it harms somebody, that's evidence of malice. That's the key thing. And so it was these texts that were going back and forth between Tucker and Sean Hannity and other people, Laura Ingram after the 2020 election. He also sent texts critical of Fox news correspondents who fact-checked the election fraud claims and network, even though they did not believe them themselves. And look, so did the person who is now the news executive.
Starting point is 00:13:11 What was her name? Suzanne whatever. Suzanne Scott. She was going back and forth and saying, hey, look, it's not a good look for us to be criticizing Trump. That's our audience. And I pointed out that this is what's happened to news. Even with Tucker, they're looking for to please a demographic.
Starting point is 00:13:34 They're following the crowd rather than telling the truth, rather than informing them. They are looking to see what people want to hear and feeding that to them whether they believe it's true or not they tell the audience their demographic what they want to hear that's how they make their money they also make their money by selling big pharma ads they said he was also alienating advertisers and we'll talk about and i'll play you the clip of what he said on april the 19th if that didn't alienate both Big Pharma and Fox News, I don't know what it would take to alienate them.
Starting point is 00:14:10 What he had to say was very good that day. The Daily Mail said Tucker Carlson was blindsided by Fox News firing that was a direct order from Rupert Murdoch after the January 6th conspiracy claims and a producer's lawsuit alleging bullying, sexism, and anti-Semitism. His exit raised half a million dollars in value. Well, later in the day, it had gotten up to a billion dollars. I think it's going to wind up being one of these things like the Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light thing.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I think it's going to cost him several billion dollars even without a lawsuit. That's the funny thing about it. And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy than Rupert Murdoch, frankly. Look, let's understand. Rupert Murdoch never was a conservative in any way, shape, or form. He's a mercenary. You know, they created Fox News and they brought in a conservative to run the news organization.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Why did he do that? I mean, you look at Fox programming, married with children, a lot of other things like that, they were really pushing the envelope on degeneracy. And I had a lot of friends who were Christians who really hated Fox entertainment, but they love Fox News because it was conservative. So Rupert Murdoch would do whatever he thinks is going to make him money. He decided later on that he was going to start a radio network. And since talk radio was all conservative, he decided that he would do a liberal talk
Starting point is 00:15:41 radio network. It crashed and burned. It failed. There's no audience for that. But, you know, he wanted to go against the grain, and that's what he was doing with Fox. He looks at the, you know, cable news and broadcast news, and he sees that it is hardcore leftist status.
Starting point is 00:15:59 So let's go the other direction with it. That's all it was. At this year's Cheltenham, glory rests in the lap of the gods. Curses. Alas, our hero hasn't placed. But there are still divine offerings up for grabs, with all NoviBet customers getting a €10 free bet for every day of Cheltenham. And on top of that, we're paying up to seven places each way
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Starting point is 00:17:05 It's just about the next dollar he's going to get. Purely mercenary for Murdoch. Even some of his closest staff, Tucker Carlson's staff, were unaware that his show had been axed. They read about it for the first time on Twitter. No one I know was told about it beforehand. We were blindsided. One senior staffer who works closely with Tucker's show, uh, told the daily mail.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Another insider revealed that he still has no idea why he was let go. So suddenly he said, Tucker still hasn't been given any indication as to why he was taken off the air. His producer, Justin Wells was fired too. We believe Rupert wants to sell the company and it's harder to find an institutional buyer with Tucker as the main star. That's one of the reasons why the news, cable as well as broadcast news, is so hardcore left. It's because the big corporations that have been marched through on a long march through the institutions, they took over the corporations, the big corporations. And they're very politicized.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I mean, ESG is just the open embrace of the politicization that has been in all of these multinational corporations, the big corporations, for a long time. They've just come out. They're not trying to hide it anymore. They came out of the closet. And so they're very politicized, and they weaponize that in terms of their sponsorship so i don't have any sponsors they hate the stuff that i do anyway um so you can get some of that stuff on on uh talk radio podcasts and everything but you
Starting point is 00:18:39 can't monetize that anywhere else you get banned everywhere else now not only do they not support it as that as far as advertising goes but they ban it tucker gone makes it more of an appealing media company to buy said the source carlson has paid about 20 million a year carlson found out that he's being let go about 10 minutes before the network announced his departure. Yeah, I can relate to that. Anyway, so when we look at it, and again, he may have well known that this type of thing was going to happen because, or suspected it was going to happen because of the lawsuit stuff and the texts that were going around. But he also might have figured, um, as I did, well, okay, it hasn't happened yet. Maybe it's not going to happen. And then they get caught. Uh, RFK jr. Pointed out that Tucker slammed big pharma on April the 19th. So, uh, here is what RFK jr. Tweeted out. He said, um, Fox fires, Tucker Carlson five days
Starting point is 00:19:44 after he crossed the red line by acknowledging that the TV networks pushed a deadly and ineffective vaccine to please their pharma advertisers. Carlson's breathtakingly courageous April the 19th monologue broke TV's two biggest rules. Tucker told the truth about how greedy pharma advertisers control TV news content, and he lambasted obsequious newscasters for promoting the jab. And we're going to show you one of the most obsequious promoters of the jab on Fox News, especially Mark Levin. He's still doing it.
Starting point is 00:20:22 He's still slathering all over Trump like grimer worm tongue. But yeah, blasting obsequious newscasters for promoting jabs that they knew to be lethal and worthless. For many years, Tucker has had the nation's biggest audience, averaging three and a half million people, 10 times the size of CNN. Fox just demonstrated the terrifying power of big pharma says RFK J. That's what I'll call him. Small, small J when you write it, right? All uppercase K and then a small J there.
Starting point is 00:21:01 So, uh, here is what Tucker actually said about Big Pharma. And when you watch this clip, and maybe even if you're just listening to this, you can kind of hear it in his voice. But if you listen to his voice and you watch him, he is very nervous when he's saying this. Well, here's one measure of their badness. In a minute. Try this at home. Ask yourself, is any news organization you know of so corrupt that it's willing to hurt you on behalf of its biggest advertisers?
Starting point is 00:21:31 Anyone who do that is obviously Pablo Escobar level corrupt and should not be trusted. What would that look like? That level of corruption. Well, imagine that the Trump administration had made it mandatory for American citizens to buy MyPillow. That's one of Fox News' biggest advertisers. Imagine the administration declared that if you didn't rush out and buy at least one MyPillow, and then at least another booster pillow, you would not be allowed to eat out. You couldn't re-enter your own country.
Starting point is 00:22:00 You couldn't have a paying job. MyPillow, they told you with a straight face, was the very linchpin of our country's public health system. Now imagine if they told you that, that Fox, as a news organization, endorsed it, amplified the government's message. Imagine if Fox News attacked anyone who refused to buy MyPillow as an ally of Russia, as an enemy of science. And then imagine that Fox kept up those libelous attacks, even as evidence mounted that MyPillow caused heart attacks, fertility problems, and death. If Fox News did that, what would you think of Fox News? Would you trust us? Of course you wouldn't. You would know that we were liars.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Thank heaven Fox News never did anything like that. But the other channels did. The other channels took hundreds of millions of dollars from big pharma companies. And then they shilled for their sketchy products on the air. And as they did that, they maligned anyone who was skeptical of those products. At the very least, this was a moral crime. It was disgusting. But it was universal.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It happened across the American news media. They all did it. So at this point, the question isn't who in public life is corrupt. Too many to count. The question is, who is telling the truth? Yeah, who is telling the truth? Now, you heard that as he started talking about Fox. What if Fox did this?
Starting point is 00:23:21 In fact, he starts to get breathless, and he starts to talk a little bit fast and he loses some of his gravitas, we'd say, right? I thought that was interesting. I also thought it was an interesting analogy. What if we told you my pillow and what if my pillow was killing people with heart attacks and all the rest of the stuff? Obviously, he's talking about the jab and, um, I don't know, maybe I never thought Travis, I never thought to look if, um, the pillow that was over the face of Scalia there, um,
Starting point is 00:23:53 in that remote creepy area, he was found with a pillow over his face. I never asked if that was my pillow. Maybe who knows anyway um but he he goes on to say and then he starts to regain his composure when he says now fox didn't do that oh yes fox did do that tucker knows they did that i've talked many times about how he knew early on and he should have said something early on better late than never and if it gets him fired well there's some better things to do than to sell lies but i remember that summer and it was june or july and it was done during the fox news show because he would say well i don't know i still i'm concerned about this he wasn't on board with
Starting point is 00:24:41 the operation thing but he wouldn't criticize it. He wouldn't criticize Operation Warp Speed. But he was like, well, you know, and kind of back off. And so they had Dr. Mark Siegel, one of the biggest big pharma pushers, Warp Speed vaccine pushers out there. Dr. Mark Siegel, who works for Fox News, went down to Washington, had an interview with Trump. I've talked about it many times. I've shown it many times. I talked about it when it happened. And they're six feet apart, so they don't have to wear a mask. And he's like, you're going to your house. Oh, it's wonderful. The vaccine is coming along really fast. And well, Mr. President, are you going to take it right away? Well, if I do, they'll say
Starting point is 00:25:25 that I jumped ahead of the line and if I don't do it, they'll say, I'm afraid of it. So I don't know what I do, you know, and they're a little laughing about this. Oh yes, it's great. It's just a miracle. It's coming soon. And, uh, again, the body language from Tucker Carlson, when they came back, he kind of rolled his eyes and he goes, okay, you know, whatever. I'm not getting it. And he would say things like that. But for the longest time, as we were going through and seeing the body counts go up on the VAERS database, you know, he would not, uh, he would throw to people. They would have him throw to people who supported it. Mark Siegel all the time, but he would not, um, come out and oppose it directly. This is the most directly that he's ever opposed it. Mark Siegel all the time, but he would not, um, come out and oppose it directly. This is the
Starting point is 00:26:07 most directly that he's ever opposed it. And he says that Fox didn't do it. Now he knows that Fox did. So perhaps now that he's been cut loose, perhaps now he'll tell us about Fox, which you can spell as P-H-O-X, as in pharma, or maybe spell it F-A-U-X, as in fake news. Tucker Carlson last week ripped big pharma spending hundreds of millions of dollars on TV ads and news outlets routinely parroting drug industry talking points. Is there a single example of CNN, MSNBC, or other Fox News hosts ever discussing TV advertising corruption? That was written by Lee Fang. No.
Starting point is 00:26:55 He did more than any of these other people did, but he still lied even in that clip to cover for Fox News. There's no person that's more willing to say things that you're not supposed to say, said American Moment on Twitter. And I agree with him. I'm glad that he did it. I was glad that he even rolled his eyes sometimes when people would talk about the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I was glad that he even said once, I'm not getting it. I'm glad he did at least that much. That helped. But you need to tell people the truth. And maybe he will now. Maybe he'll be much better now when he's not taking drug money, $20 million of it a year, because that's the major sponsor of Fox News. Everybody knows it.
Starting point is 00:27:39 The ask your doctor commercials, the pharmaceutical commercials. It's huge at Fox News. So the shares of Fox have plunged after this, as I said, went down at 1.4.8%, maybe even further, after they had climbed 0.3% in the morning. Once they kicked off their host of their number one show, it fell. And then you've got some people who tweeted out about an hour after, about just before the LA Times story came out, Justin Hart tweeted out, my sources are telling me, blood clots can happen to anyone at any age. Be particularly vigilant if you are
Starting point is 00:28:21 going into hospital, have active cancer, or undergoing cancer treatment, are pregnant, or just had a baby, are in a leg cast or had a lower limb injury, are taking the combined oral contraceptive pill or oral HRT. Ask your doctor for a blood clot risk assessment. Visit thrombosis.ie. Tucker was all set to go live tonight. He probably had plenty to talk about with this lawsuit, the Dominion, and to clear his name, producers were prepping guests and slots on Monday's show. Corporate nixed the idea, and Tucker up and quit. Well, I don't know, again, whether he quit or whether he was fired, but I certainly don't agree with um that with that assessment here that he quit
Starting point is 00:29:08 i think that they pushed him out it's just my opinion can't prove it uh i said yesterday in my opinion the 60 minutes peace sunday night is why tucker was fired because it looked like a setup for another lawsuit and i I stand by that. As a matter of fact, you know, when we look at the whole thing with Ray Epps and the 60 Minutes thing, I've had a lot of people ask me about Ray Epps. I talked about it when it first came out. It was Darren Beattie at Revolver who focused on that and really made a big issue out of that.
Starting point is 00:29:42 And of course, you know, Darren Darren Beatty goes on with Alex. He goes on with Steve Bannon. Uh, he has a Trump who comes on all the rest of the stuff. So he's got his head way into the Maga. Um, well, and, and all that stuff, we won't make any reference about it. Anyway, he, um, uh, I thought, and I said the time i said um that's a very dangerous allegation to make about somebody with only some circumstantial evidence and i was never interested in doing that i thought it was a bad idea to focus exclusively on apps look i told everybody that the whole thing was an agent
Starting point is 00:30:20 provocateur setup that's why i was fired because i was was telling people, don't go, it's a trap. Don't give them money. There's nothing that they're going to do with it to reverse any of this stuff. They're keeping it for themselves. It was a lie. It was a grift. It was a setup with agent provocateurs. And I said it the morning of January the 6th.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I told people, don't go. This is a setup. You're being set up by Trump. You're being set up by Alex and stop the steal people. And you're going to be set up by the government. Now, everybody instinctively knew that that was something that was happening. It took a while to get all this stuff out. And now we've got the video, thanks to McCarthy giving it to Tucker Carlson. We got the video
Starting point is 00:31:03 showing them walking the Buffalo Boy around, you know, giving him a guided tour. We had many people who have been arrested who have gone to jail, like Dr. Simone Gohl. She went in to make a speech, and, you know, the police are standing there. The doors are wide open. Come on in. Come on in. How is that trespassing in any way, shape, or form? You go in there, and you talk, you go to jail.
Starting point is 00:31:27 You got Sam who worked at Infowars, the only one who did any reporting that day. He sees a big crowd happening. Well, if you're a reporter, you got a camera, what the heck are you doing running to the other side of town? Why don't you run to where the action is? That's what reporters are supposed to do. He gets a jail sentence. I am sick and tired of seeing people being set up,
Starting point is 00:31:47 even people inside of Infowars being set up, thrown under the bus to protect the stop the steal thing. And that's what this is about. Look, Darren Beattie wanted to get a scoop. Darren Beattie wanted to be out front. But there's also another aspect of this. They want to find people to throw under the bus because they know who is pushing people there. You think that Ray Epps is responsible for January the 6th, everybody? Do you realize, of course, now we have, we understand there are 52 informants and provocateurs just around the Proud Boys.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And this trial with Joe Biggs and four or five other people. 52 for a half dozen Proud Boys? The place was crawling with informants. And it was obvious it was going to happen. I didn't have any names, and we haven't had any names, but you knew that that was going to happen. I knew it was going to happen. Anybody could understand that if they'd look at it.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And of course, Alex knew. All these people knew. But they pulled people in with a false hope, with a lie. They stole their money. They set them up, and they set up the whole movement, quite frankly. It was bigger even than just the people that were there at that event. I warned about it for two months that it was a trap, that it was a grift. I warned about it the morning of January the 6th.
Starting point is 00:33:15 So the question is, Ray Epps, even if he is an FBI informant provocateur or whatever, even if he is a provocateur, did he do more than Trump who stole a quarter of a billion dollars from his supporters after the election and told them on that day where he's got the rally, you follow me, I'm going to go to the Capitol. He didn't go to the Capitol. He went somewhere else. Or Alex Jones, who said with a bullhorn, you know, we're going to do one way or the other. We're going to get him out, you know, talking about removed one way or the other.
Starting point is 00:33:49 We're going to get Biden out of the White House type of thing. Who was it that was motivating people? Who was it that was acting as the provocateur? Who was it that was saying, follow me into the Capitol? That was Trump. And it's important for these people to misdirect the anger about all this stuff away from Trump and away from the people who ripped them off and put it on some kind of a sacrificial lamb. Now, Ray Epps may be an FBI provocateur. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:23 But why focus on him? I'll tell you why. Sololinsky's Rules for Radicals, number 13. Pick a target. Freeze it. Personalize it. Polarize it. That's what they did with Ray Epps.
Starting point is 00:34:40 And that's what a lot of people, you know, Darren Beattie, he wants to get there first or something. And he wants, he knows that if he puts this out there, the people who were a lot of people, you know, Darren Beatty, he wants to get there first or something. And he wants, he knows that if he puts this out there, the people who are really provoking people, the people who are really telling you, go to the Capitol, go to the Capitol. Those people would have him on their shows. That's what it's really about, folks. The false hope, the pushing people, the stealing the money, the start the steal. And the start the steal started two days after the election. November the 5th, when Steve Pachinik went on with Owen Schroer and told everybody about the sting.
Starting point is 00:35:17 We've already got 20,000 people out there. National Guard arresting people already. It was a sting. And we got blockchain watermarks what is a blockchain watermark steve please explain that to us really steve oh wow that's great i could just kiss you right now doesn't exist the troops don exist. This is two days after the election. They're supposedly arresting people. Pure fiction. I, as soon as I heard that, I opposed it.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Opposed it that night. And then on November the 6th, a Friday, I opposed it. And I got a call from Alex. I thought he was going to fire me. I said, you know, know Alex if you tell a lie I've got to record If anybody wants to question this I said if you tell a lie
Starting point is 00:36:12 Everybody knows this isn't true This isn't possible Except you had Rush Limbaugh talking about it You had Clarence Thomas' wife Texting The chief of staff of Trump's White House saying, I sure hope this is true.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Everybody knew about it. You know, the lie went all the way around the world before the truth could get its pants on. And so it was an absolute lie. It was a grift. As Roger Stone said right away, he said, we can raise so much money off of this stuff, it'll be like falling off a log. That's how the steal started. They go out and they get Alexander, a guy who has already been convicted twice for fraud, financial fraud, credit card fraud. They hang out with Nick Fuentes. We got to get Biden out of there. That's what this thing is about, folks.
Starting point is 00:37:06 And this is why I never jumped on the Ray Epps thing. He is a patsy for these people. Even if he is an FBI informant, he is a patsy for them. All these people can put their sins on the scapegoat, Ray Epps, and send him out of the camp. That's what it's about. So, again, the only thing I've seen that I disagree with Thomas Massey. He commented, he said, Ray Epps is the only person I've seen on video January the 5th and January the 6th,
Starting point is 00:37:39 urging and directing people to go into the Capitol. In a text message on January the 6th, heth, he bragged that he orchestrated it. So why do Democrats in the media portray him as a victim? So bizarre. He's not a victim compared to the other people that were there. And that may indicate that he was part of this FBI provocateur agent. But why would you single him out? He is not the only person who did that.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Not at all, Thomas. Come on. You've got to know better than that if you saw what was happening January the 6th. If you saw what was happening for the two months prior to that. We're not talking about 24 hours prior to that. We're talking about for two months
Starting point is 00:38:21 they were pushing people out. And let me just say this. Darren Beattie also focused on Stuartart rhodes of the oath keepers he said stewart rhodes is a an fbi informant he's a provocateur just like ray epps said the same thing about stewart rhodes and even after stewart rhodes was indicted you had darren beattie say stewart rhodes is um Stuart Rhodes is still an informant. I stand by that. They gave him this seditious conspiracy charge because it's so over the top, they'll never get a conviction. Well, they did get a conviction, Darren, and he's now looking
Starting point is 00:38:59 at life in prison. He hasn't been sentenced yet, but he's got a couple of 20-year sentences there. And now there's been silence from Darren Beattie about Stuart Rhodes. Look, as I said before, I quit interviewing Stuart Rhodes because I had a lot of people contact me and allege fraudulent activity by Stuart Rhodes with the Oath Keepers. A lot of people got out of it and said, hey, this is what's happening there. And so because of allegations of fraud, I did not have Stuart Rhodes on, but he is not a Fed. Allegations of fraud, but the allegations of being a Fed agent from Darren Beatty, I think are despicable.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Anyway, Joseph Farah of WND says it's despicable what 60 Minutes did, whitewashing Ray Epps and then coming after Tucker Carlson. And again, I think it was a setup to do a lawsuit. I think that was what that was about. So it was a lot of the entire focus on this thing was Tucker Carlson. Epps said, he's obsessed with me. He's going to any means possible to destroy my life and our lives. Why, said 60 Minutes. Well, to shift blame onto somebody else. He says,
Starting point is 00:40:27 if you look at it, Fox news, Marjorie Taylor, green, Ted Cruz gates, they're all telling us before this thing that it was stolen. So you tell me who has more impact on people, them or me. I agree. I think that that's this focus on Ray Epps exclusively focusing on ramps. I think that is deflection. I think there's a desire to have a scoop I think there's a desire to feed something to the MAGA audience so you should make a lot of money and they don't care who they take down quite frankly rumble is having some issues Travis says viewers will need to search roundtable report to find the live stream properly on Rumble.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Rumble, thank you very much for the tip from Billy Gar. Thank you. And yeah, by the way, you know, as I said yesterday, if you have any problems with any of these streams, because they're all kind of tenuous, Twitter, Rumble, go directly to thedavidknightshow.com. You can also go to D live other places like that. Rock fan. There's links there to the other places in case it's not working. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:41:32 he goes on, he says they followed his directions to go into the Capitol says Joseph Farah. Is he the only one who was giving directions to go into the Capitol though? No. Was he an agent provocateur? Time will tell. I don't believe just because the FBI says no, he's not. And there's a lot of stuff that is suspicious. We'll talk about that here, but, uh, you know, it still doesn't, um, uh,
Starting point is 00:41:57 there's still not, we still don't know for sure. And he is, even if he is, he's not the only one and he's not the biggest provocateur. You have to understand. And the big provocateurs are using him as cover. So anyway, he was put on their most wanted list. Then he suddenly disappeared from the list. That is suspicious considering how they overcharged everybody else. And so 60 Minutes says to him, did anyone from the federal government direct you to be here
Starting point is 00:42:28 at the peace circle at this time? He says, no. No one from the FBI? No. Your old comrades with Oath Keepers? No. But, you know, it still doesn't exonerate him. But the other side needs to, we have this principle, and it should apply in media as well.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Innocent until proven guilty. The very fact that they put him on and took him off is very different from what other people saw. And I agree, that is suspicious. Somebody needs to ask the FBI why they took him off. But that is not a guarantee that he is working for them or a provocateur.
Starting point is 00:43:08 They have so many people working for them. It's quite a possibility that he could be. But again, he is not the central figure of this thing. Why have the MAGA press made Ray Epps the central figure so they can cover for Trump and themselves? That's it. That's why he's become the central figure so they can cover for Trump and themselves. That's it. That's why he's become the central figure. And I think this whole thing with, uh, you know, with a 60 minutes thing was for him, it was going to be the precursor to a lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:43:36 You wait and see if he doesn't sue them. So I said, um, um, he says, uh, why were you treated differently, right? Over a thousand protesters arrested. I'm sorry, that's Joseph Fair is asking that. Why was he treated differently? Why were you treated differently, he says. Over a thousand protesters arrested for nothing more suspicious than what Epps did on January the 6th.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And that's true. And it is suspicious. But again, even if he's a provocateur he is not the lead provocateur he is not the only one um so anyway he says um uh epps bragged that uh he had orchestrated it so what do you mean by that well he tells 60 minutes i was boasting to my nephew i helped get people there i was directing people to the Capitol that morning. And then Whitaker at 60 Minutes says, well, you know how this sounds. I know exactly how it sounds.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I've been scolded by my wife for using that word. I shouldn't have used that word, said Ray Epps. Anyway, so when Epps got back to Arizona on January the 8th, the relative told him that he was on an FBI poster seeking information about certain writers. Uh, his wife said, uh, we literally hung up the phone, walked right into the house, sat down and called the FBI, told him who I was and that I would cooperate in any way that I could. I didn't break any laws. Two months later, he met with agents. And so Joseph Farah at WND said, so he did become an informer voluntarily. That's his comment on it. So he said, so when we met with the FBI, it was like, finally, we're going to clear this up. There was no, I take the fifth.
Starting point is 00:45:23 There was none of that. It was just like we're talking right now. I went through everything. They had a lot of questions. Well, that has not been the experience of other people, right? And I do think that that is suspicious. But again, to make him the sole person that you're going to focus on. Finally, Joseph Ferris says, well, this whole thing is just surreal. And I agree.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I mean, it's like living in the twilight zone to be warning people that this stuff is going to happen and then to watch it unfolding live, all the stuff that I said was going to happen, and then to watch how this thing continues to snowball. What a gift Stop the Steal was to the democrats and the fbi what a gift trump's save america was to the democrats and the fbi and what a betrayal both of those things were to the maga supporters but you can keep the maga supporters from getting upset by focusing on ray epps you see that's what this is all really about. You know, he was not the only provocateur if he was a provocateur.
Starting point is 00:46:31 So Babylon Bee says, you know, what is Tucker going to do? Well, Tucker, they show a picture of Tucker on The View. See if you can pull that up, Travis. And you've got all these women who are laughing hysterically, you know, two of them on either side. And he's got that quizzical look that he gets when he's listening to somebody talk in the center, you know, uh, no, maybe he might have something even better than this.
Starting point is 00:46:57 You know, last week, Tucker Carlson was shilling for Trump still asking him softball questions, letting Trump hold court. And then he did the same thing with Elon Musk. Maybe there'll be something better coming from Trump. At the end of the week, he went to Heritage Foundation and he had some very important, insightful, introspective things to say. And I want to play those clips for you. But before we get away from Ray Epps, I wanted to play this earlier.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I forgot to. Let me just show you. This is the clip that gets everybody concerned about Ray Epps. We need to go into the Capitol. Into the Capitol. What? No! Peacefully! Fed! Fed! Fed! Peacefully! Fed! No! No! No! No! No! Peacefully!
Starting point is 00:47:45 Fed! Fed! Fed! Fed! Peacefully! Fed! Fed! Fed!
Starting point is 00:47:49 Fed! Fed! Tomorrow, I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested. Well, let's not say it. We need, we need to go, I'll say it. Alright. We need to go in. Shut the fuck up, Boomer.
Starting point is 00:47:59 To the Capitol. Face Fed posting? Alright. We need to go into the Capitol. I didn't see that coming. Okay. The president has been speaking. We are going to the Capitol where our problems are.
Starting point is 00:48:09 It's that direction. We spread the word. All right. No, Dave, but one more thing. Yes, sir. Can we go up there? No. When we go in, leave this here.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Are we going to get arrested if we go up there? You don't need to get shot. Can you arrest us all? We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. All right, no, Dave, but one more thing. Yeah, so can we go up there? No? When we go in, leave this here? Are we going to get arrested if we go up there?
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yeah, you don't need to get shot. Can you arrest us all? We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! We want to stay! Okay, you get the idea.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And there's a lot of screamings that doesn't make for good radio or podcast. But the bottom line is it's very suspicious that they just let him go. I mean, they've come after a lot of people for a lot less. Simone Gold didn't do anything like that. She went to jail. It is suspicious. However, he's not the only one. And in terms of being a successful provocateur, did you ever hear anybody at any of the Stop the Steal or at any of Trump's rallies yelling fed, fed, fed?
Starting point is 00:49:26 No, they bought it hook, line, and sinker. Rayups didn't have as much credibility with these people as the stop the steel guys and Trump. No. And so when we talk about what may lay ahead for Tucker Carlson, as I said, you know, he was being a sycophant to Trump last week. I think he was trying to pull back in the wake of the Dominion lawsuit. I think things got probably pretty prickly with all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:51 And I think he's trying to show, look, I can have really big interviews and I can pull in really big numbers. I can have Trump. I can have Elon Musk on. And, you know, to try to ameliorate all of that stuff. But then the 60 Minutes things happened. And now we've got Mark Levin playing the role of Trump's behind the kisser.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And so, oh, yeah, let me, I keep forgetting to play these Ray Epps clips. This is what 60 Minutes did with the Ray Epps clips. Who is Ray Epps? That question has animated Fox News host Tucker Carlson for nearly two years. Ray Epps? He's on video several times encouraging crimes, riots, breaches of the Capitol. Carlson has focused on Epps more than 20 times on his top-rated show,
Starting point is 00:50:43 a half-dozen times so far this year. He's obsessed with me. He's going to any means possible to destroy my life and our lives. Why? To shift blame on somebody else. If you look at it, Fox News, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz, Gates, they're all telling us before this thing that it was stolen. So you tell me, who has more impact on people, them or me?
Starting point is 00:51:14 Epps, once a loyal Fox News watcher, told us he doesn't understand how he got cast as the villain. The Epps version is more mundane. They believe the 2020 election had been stolen from Donald Trump and considered January 6th a legitimate protest. It was a sloppy election. And then to top that off,
Starting point is 00:51:36 you have talking heads reporting that there's problems with the voting machines and different things like that. The election's stolen. So yeah, we had concerns. I wanted to be there. I wanted to witness this with my own eyes. Is he a victim?
Starting point is 00:51:52 Why didn't they persecute him like they did other people who were there? But clearly he has become the scapegoat for these people. And clearly they were focusing in this thing to come after Tucker Carlson. So as I said, Mark Le does is still sucking up to trump he had him on and listened to how obsequious he was you say this mr president i've talked to a lot of important people supreme court justices, presidents, presidential candidates, brilliant people.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And talking with you is really the most impressive conversation I've had. Number one, there's very few people who could sit there and speak the way you do, from subject to subject to subject to subject, if people would let you speak and actually listen to you, while you have the enormous pressure on your shoulders of these grand juries and other things going on, and you still are able to do it, that is absolutely remarkable. One of the most sickening people in media that I've ever seen, and by the way, don't fall for his lies about a constitutional convention.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Mark Levin is a traitor to our country and to the Constitution. Back on December the 17th, by the way, that was the day that I was fired, Mark Levin called for Trump to be honored with a ticker tape parade for warp speed mRNA shots. So the day I was fired for opposing that Benedict Donald, you've got Mark Levin saying he needs to have a ticker tape parade. Well, I think there should be a parade, but a different kind. What I have in mind is the kind that the Roman emperors would do with the prisoners of war
Starting point is 00:53:47 behind them. That's where Trump should be. He should be in the Hague for international crimes against humanity. He funded these lockdowns. He is a traitor to us, a globalist traitor. Rather than Trump, there's always a ticker tape parade, he said. In days past, the development of miracle vaccines that saved the lives of millions of people would be celebrated by all. They'd be cheering in the streets.
Starting point is 00:54:17 But because President Trump drove the development of these vaccines in an unbelievably short period of time and forever improved the method by which vaccines will be developed now. And in the future, it's downplayed. He said, it's appalling. Yes. Mark Levin is appalling.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And yes, Trump did change the way that vaccines and other medicines will be approved now by bureaucratic fiat without even a pretense of testing. That's the legacy of Donald Trump. And that's what that disgusting grimer worm tongue of a reporter, Mark Levin, has to say about it. Look, you know, I expect better things to come for Tucker Carlson. And let me just say, you know, going back and the time I met Matt Drudge, it was very interesting
Starting point is 00:55:15 because Adon Salazar, one of the writers there, was the one who was in contact with Matt Drudge. He had been sending articles to Matt, and so, you know, Matt knew him, had his contact information and contacted him and said, Hey, I'd like to come to InfoWars and talk to people, but don't tell anybody I'm coming. I want it to be a surprise. And so nobody knew he was coming. And, um, it was a surprise to everybody. Alex was on air and he was surprised and, you know, Drudge shows up in the studio. But Don comes to me and he says, hey, there's somebody here that wants to meet you. And I said,
Starting point is 00:55:55 I don't really have time. I'm pretty busy right now. And he goes, no, no, no, you're going to want to meet this person. I said, really? You know, so I go on and meet him. And I say, it's Matt Drudge. And he's like, wow. And so we talked for a while and I told him, I said, you know, I've always admired what you did that cost you your job at Fox news. And if you remember, you know, he had a TV show there and, um, it was a 1999. And do you remember this picture of baby Samuel? This was an operation in utero of a baby that had been identified as having spina bifida issues. And as this operation was going on in Vanderbilt University here in Tennessee, as that was happening, baby Samuel reached his hand out, and you can see that tiny hand grasping the surgeon's finger. It shows the humanity of these children.
Starting point is 00:56:52 They're not just a fetus. And so that was a very, very powerful picture. As a matter of fact, I told Matt, I said, even because you focused on that, because it got very popular, we had some friends of ours who had a daughter who was diagnosed with spina bifida, and they went to Vanderbilt and had that operation, and probably helped her a great deal.
Starting point is 00:57:19 She still has mobility issues, but probably not nearly as bad as it would have been. And so I said, that was really good, he says, that you did that. And I know that it cost you. He said, no, I showed that picture because I wanted to get out of my contract with Fox. Wow. Okay. So, you know, maybe Tucker is ready to do something more significant than just look for an audience right maybe he doesn't want to just build an audience or build a fortune as one person was
Starting point is 00:57:54 saying hey he could make so much money can you imagine he was making 20 million at fox he could do way more than way better than joe rogan did, going out on his own. And that's true. The person said, maybe he could make generational wealth, the kind of money that even your kids can't squander. Is that the point of life? What does it profit a man? To gain the whole world and lose his own soul.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And so when he went to Heritage, I'm going to play something that he had to say about the meaning of life. And maybe Tucker, as he's reflecting on this stuff, and as he has this big change in his life, perhaps God will move him in a way that could be very, very powerful because of the size of his audience. He could say some very powerful things if he wants to. Here's what he had to say at Heritage Foundation. The very first thing you should do every single day is tell all the people you love that you love them for two reasons. Because you do, and affirming things out loud makes them real.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Words are the most important and most powerful thing that we have. And of course, I have an interest in saying that. If I sold Chryslers, I'd be like, cars are the most important thing. But words are, in the beginning was the word, and so articulate it. And that is also simultaneously an acknowledgment of a truth that we don't face, which is we don't know what's going to happen today. And we could die. That's the one thing that unites every person is the certainty of death.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And reminding yourself of that every single day will bring you, paradoxically, joy. I love you. That's the most important thing. Or maybe you could be fired suddenly, right? You know, your life can change just like that, with an accident, with the death of a loved one, with your own death, with the death of your career, but it's not the death of his career.
Starting point is 00:59:51 He's going to go on. And so the question is, how will this make him a better person, a better commentator? And I think it will, because at Heritage Foundation, he also had this to say. I'm not going to play the whole thing for him. Just going to read you some excerpts from it because the entire clip is about six minutes long,
Starting point is 01:00:10 but he says, so, um, uh, when I started it in heritage, he said, the presumption was, and this is a very Anglo American assumption that the debates that we're
Starting point is 01:00:20 having, these kinds of rational debates about the way to get to mutually agreed upon outcomes. He said, so we all want the country to be more prosperous and free and the people be less oppressed or whatever. So we're going to argue about things like tax rates. We'll hire taxes. Get us there. I'm a Keynesian. You disagree.
Starting point is 01:00:38 You're an Austrian or whatever. But that objective was the same. We had a common objective. We wanted the welfare of the people. In other words, right? He says, that's not where we are right now. He says, I don't think we're watching a debate over how to get the best outcome. I've come to this conclusion that I should say at the outset, I'm an Episcopalian, so
Starting point is 01:00:59 don't take any theological advice from me because I don't have any. I grew up with what I feel is the shallowest faith tradition that's ever been invented. It's not even Christian religion at this point. Well, do something about it. Move, move from Fox,
Starting point is 01:01:15 move from the Episcopalians. Anyway, he says, I'm just saying this as an observer of what's going on. There's no way to assess, let's say, the transgender movement with that mindset. He says, policies don't account for that at all. If you have people who are saying, I'm going to castrate the next generation, he says, you're going to sexually mutilate children?
Starting point is 01:01:39 What? Sorry, that's not a political debate. He says, what is the outcome that we're desiring here do you want an androgynous population no they want depopulation they want to stop procreation they want to do that by you know homosexuality or by mutilation by castration anything right sterilization anyway he says if you, I think abortion is always bad, well, I think sometimes it's necessary. He says, well, that's the debate I'm familiar with.
Starting point is 01:02:12 So if you're telling me that abortion is a positive good, what are you saying? He said, well, you're arguing for child sacrifice. Obviously, it's not about a teen girl gets pregnant, and what do we do about that? It's not about the victims of rape. I get it. Of course, I understand that, and I have compassion for everyone involved.
Starting point is 01:02:31 But when the Treasury Secretary stands up and says, you know what you can do to help the economy? Get an abortion. He said, this is like an Aztec principle. Yeah, human sacrifice. He says, there's not a society in history that didn't practice human sacrifice. Not one that I checked. Even the Scandinavians, I'm ashamed to say. It wasn't just the Mesoamericans.
Starting point is 01:02:56 It was everybody. So that's what it is. What's the point of child sacrifice, he said. Well, there's no policy goal intertwined with that. It is a theological phenomenon, he said. He said, so when the federal government, the largest human organization in human history, decides that the goal is to destroy things, destruction for its own sake, hey, let's tear it down.
Starting point is 01:03:22 He said, what you are watching is not a political movement. It is evil. Now, when we talk about child sacrifice, I've talked about that many times in terms of talking about abortion. I said, if you go back and you look at the Canaanites that were in the area as Israel comes in to that area. God told them to destroy the entire society. God judges societies that do that to their kids. What was happening there? It was very interesting because it was very much like what happens with planned unparenthood. They would have these sexual festivals, this goddess Ashtaroth.
Starting point is 01:04:06 They had poles. I don't know if they had pole dancing. Probably did. Probably had all that stuff. So they would have the Ashtaroth poles as a big sexual celebration. And then a few months later, they would have another type of worship where they would make sacrifices for prosperity. And you know what you needed to sacrifice for prosperity?
Starting point is 01:04:27 Your children. Perhaps those unwanted children who were left over or the product of this sexual festival that they had. And so they would heat up these idols of Moloch with outstretched arms and a lap. They would heat it up super hot and then they would put the child on that to kill the child.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And it wasn't just in Canaan. It was also down into the Carthage area. And if you go down there they have found the massive graveyards of skeletons, of babies, of child sacrifice down there. And so God told the Israelites to destroy Canaan.
Starting point is 01:05:19 And then when Rome came, they had the back and forth between Hannibal and the Carthaginians. It was a competition. That's when Hannibal invaded and took the elephants up over the Alps and all the rest of that stuff. But you had Cato the Elder, who was an important senator. Every time he made a speech, he would end it, oh, one more thing. Carthage must be destroyed. And eventually they did destroy Carthage.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Eventually he got his wish. But I don't think it was him speaking. I think it was God speaking through him. I think God used the Romans to destroy these people engaged in his child sacrifice. And as Tucker says, pretty much every society has at some point degraded into child sacrifice. And it is, in human sacrifice, and it is the final step before God comes in and wipes them out. Where is the Aztec society today? It's gone.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Where are the Carthaginians? Gone. So it is evil, and we know what evil is. And then the rest of the speech, he's kind of saying, well, do we know what evil is? He says, I'm not calling for a religious war. I'm not saying that I'm going to run. I'm calling for a political thing. I'm not partisan. He said, the Republicans are horrible. I'm not backing them. He said, let's have a debate about these ideas. But they don't want to debate it. The idea won't produce outcomes that any rational person would want under any circumstances.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Those are manifestations of some larger force that is acting upon us. It's so obvious. it is so completely obvious it is the evil behind the globalist agenda the evil behind the un and of course you can go in and you can find the little occultic rooms that they've got at the un and you can do reports on that and all the rest of the stuff but But you need to understand that this globalist, this global conspiracy that transcends generations and all the rest of this, there is an evil force behind that that is persistent. The supernatural is above the natural, and it is persistent. And it is so obvious, so completely obvious. He's right about that. That is what we fight. That is what we fight. So where did he end it? He said, I believed when I first started at Heritage, I think he used to work there as an employee.
Starting point is 01:08:09 When I first started at Heritage, I believed that I could just win the debate. And if I marshaled more facts, I found out that that doesn't work. He said, and so maybe we should take just like 10 minutes a day to say a prayer about it. I'm curious, like, why not? He said, and I'm saying that to you, not as some kind of evangelist. I'm literally saying that to you as an Episcopalian, the Samaritans of our time. He said, I'm coming to you from the most humble and lowly theological position you can really, you can. He says, I'm literally an Episcopalian, okay? And so even I have concluded
Starting point is 01:08:42 that it might be worth taking just 10 minutes out of your busy schedule to say a prayer for the future. And I hope you will. Now, that's what he was doing this weekend, just a couple of days before he was fired. Perhaps God is preparing him. Perhaps God will use these circumstances to have him abandon any way of guarding his speech and give people the unvarnished truth. He's getting so close to it. And so I hope that this is a good thing.
Starting point is 01:09:23 It could be a good thing for everyone in the society. We need to have people who are going to speak truth. We got enough people who are going to spin the story so that they can flatter Trump like Mark Levin. Absolutely disgusting display. And that's the way that it typically is. If it's on CNN or MSNBC, they would treat Biden the same way that Mark Levin treated Trump. We need to get out of this partisan trap. And we need to understand what is really valuable. And we need to understand that our solution doesn't lie in Washington,
Starting point is 01:10:00 doesn't lie in the White House, doesn't lie in the Oval Office, it doesn't lie with Trump or DeSantis or RFK Jr., it doesn't lie with any of those people. Our solutions lie with God. And God we trust, not in DeSantis. And God we trust, not in RFK Jr. We need to take that mindset.
Starting point is 01:10:34 The common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing. And the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God. That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation,
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Starting point is 01:12:03 Okay, let's talk about RFK Jr. And let's begin with CBDC. There's an article from Mainstream Media. This is actually from Bloomberg. And they turn or try to turn CBDC into a conspiracy theory. Even as they talk about how people in Wall Street are concerned about it, how people within the Federal Reserve, some of them are concerned about it.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Oh, it's just a conspiracy theory. You know, they played this whole game of, you know, COVID and vaccines and all the rest of this stuff. They played that for so long, and now they don't have that game to play anymore. So they got to invent a new MacGuffin, if you will. CBDC. They don't call it that MacGuffin, but that's the attack that is taken by Bloomberg.
Starting point is 01:12:53 And so they say, look, us presidential hopefuls are rallying against railing against the digital dollar. So they talk about DeSantis. They talk about Vivek Ramaswamy, and then they eventually get around to RFKJ. Bloomberg says it is far from reality. Some officials at the Federal Reserve have expressed doubt over the need for one. The Fed has also said that it would want approval from Congress before moving forward with the digital dollar. But that hasn't stopped the relatively niche issue from emerging as a flash point for individuals who are eyeing a presidential run.
Starting point is 01:13:30 See, they're just running this thing through to, uh, you know, get votes and things like that. It's just a conspiracy. They didn't made it. Nobody wants this thing. I said, um, the idea of a digital dollar has already faced backlash from wall street and other banks. But wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Wall Street's taking it seriously. The banks are taking it seriously enough to backlash against it. Well, but it's just a conspiracy theory, says Bloomberg. It's just something these demagogues are out there doing to drum up support with a hoi polloi. Lenders are worried about it, acting as a direct competitor to private bank deposits. In Congress, Republicans on Capitol Hill have introduced legislation to ban direct-to-consumer CBDCs, saying they could be used by the federal government to surveil U.S. citizens.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Of course, surveil everything. But see how they present this? They say it's a conspiracy theory, and then they start talking about all the different people. Wall Street is opposed to it. The bankers are opposed to it. Politicians in Washington are opposed to it. People are opposed to it. Politicians.
Starting point is 01:14:37 But it's just a conspiracy. It ain't going to happen, right? Ramaswamy, who has already announced his candidacy, honed in on anti-CBDC talking points. He believes opposing CBDCs should be a litmus test for a presidential candidate, and it should not be controversial for any Republican. Well, I agree with him. And so that begs the question, where is Trump on this? Where is Trump on CBDC?
Starting point is 01:15:04 Well, we know where Trump is on 5g. You know, he pushed that vital piece of infrastructure for the smart cities and the global takeover. He pushed that very hard. No concern there about surveillance, right?
Starting point is 01:15:19 I said, when I opposed a 5g and I've opposed it for many years, um, way before my program started, that's been going for five years, but I said 5G, and I've opposed it for many years, way before my program started. That's been going for five years. But I said, look, there's two big issues with 5G. Number one, the health issue. We already know that there's health issues with electromagnetic radiation. Some people are a lot more sensitive to it than others. But we already have some of the most lax regulations in terms of energy concentration of any society. We know things like the Fry effect where just as some people, you know, microwaves are dangerous, right?
Starting point is 01:16:00 You can cook food with it. Where did they find out about that? Well, it was microwaves in the military. And that's why Amana, when they came out with the first microwave oven, they called it the radar range because it was on the radar equipment that technicians would set their coffee cup down and then they would notice it was getting hot. And so with that there, the Navy commissioned Alan Fry to start doing some experiments about the biological effects.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Because, hey, if you can cook food, if you can heat up coffee, maybe you are cooking somebody internally. And so there's shielding requirements on the radar ranges, on the microwaves and so forth. But he also found, as he had one of his technicians working on it, they were working on a different frequency, they started hearing things. That's called the Fry effect. And it can actually, different frequencies can be picked up by your nervous system and you sense that as clicking, cricket type of sounds and things like that. So we don't really know what these effects are.
Starting point is 01:17:10 This is a very concentrated 5G is. It is not low power, as they tell you. It is very concentrated. It's much, much higher than the levels that we currently have. It is a radically different frequency, very, very high frequency. It is also pulsed. And so you have, if you're walking around with a phone or something like that, you have all these different line of sight antennas, and they're going to be multiplexing your signal with other signals that are out there.
Starting point is 01:17:36 So all the antennas that are in a line of sight are all going to be focused on you at one point in time. And then they will turn off and they'll pulse onto somebody else and they keep going back and forth between everything that's around there. So you're going to be getting very high frequency, regular, regular pulses of this stuff at another, and the base frequency is very high. We don't know what the health effects are. Do you think we ought to check into it? Trump doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:18:01 He didn't care about the vaccines either. Right. And we saw the same thing with 5G. It's like, at least do some tests of this stuff before you roll it out en masse. But of course not. But I said, that is something that needs to be tested. We don't know. We have indications that that may be an issue, but we don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:18 So test it. Nope, not going to test it. Well, what we do know is how it's going to be used for surveillance. And we do know that it is the vital infrastructure for these smart cities. But he doesn't care about that. Do you think Trump's going to care about CBDC being used for surveillance? And as I pointed out last week, when you look at the lockdown, I'm going to shut down you. You're not essential.
Starting point is 01:18:40 I'm going to shut down the small businesses on Main Street. I'm going to shut down the small businesses, and you're going to lose your job, and you're not going to go anywhere. But don't worry. I'll give you a check. Well, that's nothing but communism. That's confiscating your livelihood, confiscating your property effectively, and then putting you on a subsistence level of living.
Starting point is 01:19:00 It is basic income. It's so basic you can't live off of it. These people are talking about, well, $12,000 a year. Give you a check for $1,000 a month. That's what people that Elon Musk supported in the last one. Yang. Oh, yeah. Give people $1,000 a month.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Everybody gets it. Look, that is communism. Take away your property. Take away your ability to work and put you on a big welfare check and do it for everybody. That is leveling everybody down to a subsistence level of living. Quite frankly, socialism and communism are not new. It was around at the time of the founding fathers. Jefferson called them the levelers because they wanted to level everybody down and level society down to a subsistence level.
Starting point is 01:19:44 We'll make everybody equal, equal in poverty, equal in austerity, equal in the mire. And so there's nothing new about that. But last week when I was going over RFK Jr.'s speech, he gave the example of a small businessman who was shut down and he was given this little PPP, Payroll Protection Plan from Trump, right? Not just a stimulus check, but the PPP. And he said, so they gave me $17,000. Not enough to keep his business going,
Starting point is 01:20:17 but he also had to spend it within a certain period of time. I said, that's it. That's CBDC right there. Because that's one of the big deals that all the central bankers have been talking about. Yeah, we can put a time limit. We can give people money, lock them down, give them money to keep them pacified. That's why Elon Musk supported Yang, who was pushing UBI.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Because Elon Musk and the rest of these Silicon Valley billionaires want to shut everybody down. And then how do we keep them pacified? Even Bloomberg has been saying that. It was misconstrued as criticism of arrogant criticism of farmers. But what Bloomberg was talking about, he said, yeah, anybody can do that job. Everybody said, wait a minute. Farmers have to wear a lot of to, they work really hard, but they also have to be very wise about how they marshal resources and how they use them. It's become highly technical. This is not something that you just wave your hand and get rid of.
Starting point is 01:21:14 But that wasn't what Bloomberg was talking about. He said, you know, we had an agrarian society and that was replaced with a, an industrial society. And, you know, people could, we we get rid of these farm workers and put them in the factories and you know because but now you know we're going to get rid of the factory workers he said the the thing that smart people like me are doing that's the phrase that he used we're looking at how we can take these people's jobs and he said the problem with it is how do we keep people from coming after us with guillotines? That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:21:47 And so Elon Musk and Bloomberg want to give you universal basic income to pacify you. They want to make it CBDC so they can monitor you. And they want to use those capacities to make it expire as another element of control. So we know where Trump is on CBDC, right? You better put those dots together. Then DeSantis they go to. DeSantis has made similar claims and proposed legislation to prevent the federal government from deploying a digital dollar in his state. Again, going in and saying the opposite
Starting point is 01:22:26 of what they have quietly introduced. They don't mention this in the Bloomberg article. 20 plus states have got legislation to prohibit crypto and to authorize a central bank digital currency as money. You do it in the universal, not universal, the uniform commercial code UCC. And, uh, it was Kristi Noem who blew the whistle on that.
Starting point is 01:22:52 She vetoed that. She said, and there's another 20 plus States that have similar legislation. Well, DeSantis did just the opposite. He said, we're going to put in legislation to prohibit CBDC and to recognize crypto. That is wise. Anyway, the spokesperson says this is about controlling people's behavior,
Starting point is 01:23:11 and he's right about that. DeSantis said that unaccountable institutions cannot impose a CBDC on Americans. They will tell us that CBDC won't be abused, but we're wise enough to know better. And then they moved to RFK Jr. They said he has also emerged as a critic of the digital dollar. In a lengthy tweet, he appeared to conflate U.S. digital cash with an unrelated Federal
Starting point is 01:23:34 Reserve system known as FedNow. Now, what Bloomberg won't tell you, I've told you many times, if you, maybe Bloomberg ought to go look at the articles that have been written by the Atlantic. The Atlantic has been pushing this. And the Atlantic talks about the fact that you've got almost every country on earth is in some stage of development of a CBDC. And I forget the exact statistic, but it's something like 96% of the world's economy is represented by the countries that have jumped onto this.
Starting point is 01:24:07 And when you look at the Atlantic and you look at their map and they keep it updated, it's there, they keep updating this thing, they show the different stages that each of these countries are at. And like I said, they're either in the evaluation stage or the trial and implementation stage. And then when they implement it, they implement it in two steps. The first one is the wholesale step, which is what FedNow is. And then the second one, the final one, is the retail step, which is what FedCoin is. And so he said, well, you know, RFK Jr. appeared to conflate FedNow with CBDC. He corrected that.
Starting point is 01:24:50 But let's understand that the wholesale stage, that FedNow is a preparation stage for FedCoin. It's the same thing. They said that program is scheduled to come online this year, according to the central bank officials, FedNow, and would allow U.S. banks to offer customers real-time payment services, which we don't need. We've already got many services that do that. While politicians like DeSantis and Kennedy are very different people, they share a populist approach to politics.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Said a poli-sci professor. They very much view the government with suspicion, and as a result, it is natural for them to point to this new, untested idea of a CBDC and use that as a way to galvanize their base. You see, it's just the next stage of having something to scare people about. They're just populist demagogues. No, they're not. You better be afraid of this, and you better start taking preparations on your own. That's why I love to recommend what Tony Arterman is doing, Why is Wolf Gold? And he's kind enough to set up David
Starting point is 01:25:55 Knight Gold so that he knows that you're coming from us. But look, money is, and gold is money, and money is the things that you hold in your hand that you can get to. Anything that you got in a bank or brokerage account, if you got paper gold or paper silver, there's not any gold behind that. And so that is a very important thing to have that outside of the system. Even if you stockpile cash, they can say, well, we're going to issue some new bills, and all these old bills are not going to be recognized. You may be able to find in your community and in your society,
Starting point is 01:26:34 maybe you'll use those old bills for your own barter system outside of their system, but they may confiscate them. They may treat people who have that as criminals, any of that stuff. You may have to go underground with any or all of these things. But again, take a look at DavidKnight.gold. They go on to say, as the threat of COVID-19 has receded from public consciousness, fringe figures have begun to jump on the idea that digital dollars could be used to implement a Chinese-style social credit system in the West.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Now across the Internet, CBDCs have become a metaphor for all sorts of government overreach. See? It's just a conspiracy theory. That's the way the mainstream media is going to try to spin this. Blatant lies like they fed us about the pandemic and about the masks and the lockdowns and of course about the jabs they say kennedy jr has explicitly linked his criticism of cbdc's to his widely debunked theories widely debunked theories about vaccines now what's been widely
Starting point is 01:27:40 debunked are the vaccines, Bloomberg. Unbelievable. And about his positions on government power. He says, quote, a CBDC tied to a digital ID and social credit score will allow the government to freeze your assets or limit your spending to approved vendors if you fail to comply with arbitrary diktats. In other words, vaccine mandates. He said that on Twitter. Bloomberg says these kind of comments have an impact on those who purport to believe them.
Starting point is 01:28:11 This isn't a theory. It's a fact. It's already there. It's already being rolled out. You know, more honest, more statist, proud of the fact that people who are proud globalists like the Atlantic, they pointed out there. But Bloomberg's position is to lie to you, to gaslight to you. And then they quote him again.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Sorry, they quote other people who say, I need to start developing a habit of paying for everything with cash like my father does, said a user. And so they say, and he's got, and he's pro-Trump and formerly known as the Donald underneath with a link to RFK Jr.'s tweets. Look, you need to understand Trump is not with us on this. The silence about CBDC has been deafening. He doesn't support any of these things that are vital to us. He stands with the globalists.
Starting point is 01:29:05 He calls himself an anti-globalist, and he's called himself that so much. And Fox News, Mark Levin, these other people called him an anti-globalist so much that people believe that lie. A whopping 70% of people think that Biden should not run again. He's doing very poorly in his own party. A new poll out on Sunday from NBC News, 70% of Americans do not want Biden to run for a second term compared to only 26% who do.
Starting point is 01:29:39 And so, you know, it's age or other things that they have a problem with it. But, you know, it's a age or other things that they have a problem with it, but you know, he's today, he is supposed to be releasing his statement on video. He's not going to do it in front of a live crowd. Oh no, no, no, no, no. Too risky. Yeah. He might get trapped on stage.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Wouldn't be able to figure out which way to go to get off the stage. We've seen that how many times, right? So he's going to, he's got a can video thing that he's going to release today to say that he's going to run again. And as I said, the beginning of the program, uh, the Democrats announced that of course is Washington post announced it on Thursday. They have RFK jr. Makes his formal announcement, does a rally on Wednesday and on Thursday,
Starting point is 01:30:23 the Washington post announces that the, quote, National Democratic Party has said that it will support Biden's re-election and it has no plans to sponsor primary debates. How about that? Just shut down the debates. Wow. This is, I don't know, I think it's unprecedented. I mean, even when you've got a candidate who is an incumbent who's running again. They've always in the past had debates in the primaries, but they're just going to shut it down now.
Starting point is 01:30:57 And this is why I said, when you talk about election fraud and understand that the new sloppy rules that were put in were put in under trump they were there because he locked everybody down that enabled them to you know not have debates at all to not have rallies at all it allowed them to mail out ballots to everyone some people were getting multiple ballots from multiple jurisdictions it allowed the ballot harvesting and the ballot stuffing and all the rest of this stuff. It added a whole new level of corruption. And so what did the Republicans do? Well, they focused on what has been known to be a point of risk for a long time, and that is electronic voting. But see, they made the mistake of focusing on Dominion and on Smartmatic alone.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Look, there's other voting machine, big voting machine companies. Yes, ES&S, Hart. There's a bunch of large. There's at least four that are very big and a lot of smaller ones that sell electronic voting machines. And what is the problem with that? It's not even a theory. We know that anything that is computerized like that can be easily hacked 25 30 years ago they were showing people coming in with a thumb drive and sticking
Starting point is 01:32:13 it on electronic voting machine and didn't matter which buttons you push they had already determined what the ratio was going to be same thing can happen happen. So if you don't keep physical custody, careful physical custody of these things, that can happen. If you connect them to the internet, it can happen. And it can happen from a foreign source. It can happen from people outside of Washington.
Starting point is 01:32:34 The bottom line is, is that people have always stuffed paper ballots. People have always had, you know, it was legendary about the voting machines in Chicago and people driving around with these big mechanical voting machines in the back of their cars and stuff like that to rig elections. So you're going to find that people will always cheat with elections.
Starting point is 01:32:54 But what you have with electronic voting machines and computers is the capability of people being able to easily, more easily cheat with less detection and to do it across every single jurisdiction and from top to bottom, from president to dog catcher. That's what's so dangerous about it. And don't tell me that's not a possibility. It's illustrated every year at DEFCON and Black Hat conferences in Las Vegas. They even have Voter Village to show how easy it is to rig these things. And you don't believe me?
Starting point is 01:33:34 Take a look at the fact that the CIA had its blueprint for how they can hack and disguise themselves as somebody else. That was stolen from them. There's nothing that's secure. Pentagon personnel files were stolen. All of this stuff can easily be hacked. But as I mentioned all that, because I said, the way that the election is rigged starts at the beginning.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Who is allowed to get on the ballot? Since Ross Perotot they have they have constricted ballot access the democrats or republicans have to uh and access to the debates so that you're not going to get there if you're a third party or independent candidate you will not be in the debates and now they're doing it so that rfk cannot participate in the debates. Isn't that interesting? I think it is very interesting. And he reacted to this.
Starting point is 01:34:30 He slammed the DNC. He said, we've got a rigged primary. There's going to be any debates. They're going to move South Carolina to be the first state instead of New Hampshire. Why? Well, because Biden did very well there. He said, the DNC, RFK Jr. said the DNC at this point has taken the official position that there will be no debate.
Starting point is 01:34:52 And I think that's unfortunate. I think what the DNC did to New Hampshire is also unfortunate. He said in an interview with Breitbart, Joel Pollack, the senior editor, Biden didn't do well in New Hampshire, said RFK Jr. He came in fifth. So they took New Hampshire and they kicked it out of first place. And now they're going to say, they're saying that they're going to completely remove the delegates from New Hampshire. And that we should at this point in history, he said. And of course, you know, New Hampshire is close to his home territory,
Starting point is 01:35:33 the family territory there in Massachusetts, even though he lives in California, I think. The Democrat described New Hampshire as, quote, an exemplar for American democracy. He said it was a gold standard for election integrity since it was the gateway to the rest of the primaries for 100 years. He says it's very cheap to campaign in it. It has the largest independent bloc in the country,
Starting point is 01:35:56 and people don't make their minds up until they see the candidates again and again and again, and they shake the candidates' hands five times before deciding who to vote for, said Kennedy. They vet these candidates for the whole country. They vet them like you would get vetted if you were running for a city council seat. He says, you have to go in and handshake people and nail salons and diners, and you get grilled. These candidates get grilled by an 80-year-old woman who reads The Economist and reads Financial Times every day. And you know she asked questions about some arcane matter.
Starting point is 01:36:30 And then the follow-up question. And then another follow-up question. All these things that you'll never get from CNN or from the New York Times or the kind of soundbite culture in every other state. The candidates can raise a billion dollars and they can take over that state kind of an aerial bombardment, carpet bomb it with, you know, advertisements, and it's really about money. But New Hampshire is a one place
Starting point is 01:36:54 where you get to do retail politics and you cannot escape it. So RFK Jr. says, so when you have so many Americans who are concerned about election integrity, we should be doing everything we can in our party, the Democrat Party, to show that, you know, this is not a rigged system, that it is actually a democracy that people can run and that they can get to debate
Starting point is 01:37:15 and that the public is going to be able to see them. And that they're, that is the DNC, doing the kind of opposite of that. He says, there's too many Americans who already think the whole system is rigged against them, and this is confirmation of that. And I think that that is troubling. Again, the system is rigged with the ballots, it's rigged with the debates, and so now they're going to rig the debates internally as well, not just trying to keep independents and third parties out.
Starting point is 01:37:41 And as part of that interview, he said, there is no time in history where the people who were censoring speech were the good guys. This is what they're afraid of. He is a very good speaker and he really can distill these ideas and concepts with crystal clarity. He says, I'm wondering if you can make a pitch to our audience about a common cause that you, this is Pollock talking to him, that you running as a Democrat may have with many conservatives who feel that they have been canceled or otherwise censored or
Starting point is 01:38:14 marginalized in public discourse. Kennedy said, well, it's more than a personal aggrievement. It's really just a direct assault on our democracy. He said, in crafting the Bill of Rights, America's founders put the right to free expression in the First Amendment because all of the other rights depend upon it. Because a government that has the power to silence its critics has license for any kind of atrocity. He said, we're now in the situation where without free speech, democracy just withers and dies.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Yeah, take that, Washington Post. Democracy dies in darkness? No, democracy dies in censorship. Free speech is the fertilizer. It's the sunlight. It's the water for democracy. There is no time in history where the people who were censoring speech were the good guys. They're always the bad guys because, of course, that's the first and last step of totalitarianism, silencing critics. At Breitbart, Pollack noted that Andrew Breitbart, quote, used to say, we always need more voices, not fewer voices. The answer to speech that you don't agree with is more speech, not less speech.
Starting point is 01:39:29 And Kennedy said, what we really ought to be looking at is, why do we have this misinformation that they say they're so worried about? What is the cause of this supposed blizzard and tsunami of misinformation that everybody is worried about? And if you look at why this is happening, it's clear that it's happening because people don't trust the government anymore. And they don't trust it because the government lies and the media lies. 22% of Americans now trust the government and about 22% trust the media, he said. That is the lowest level in our history. So, you know, you can try to fool the people, but you're not going to get away with it all
Starting point is 01:40:09 the time. Tim Robbins, by the way, you know, a very liberal character. He's now at the very end of all these mandates. He came out in opposition to the mandates. I was wrong. And now he's coming out. And I like the quote that he had. He says, mainstream news is serving as a thuggish censorship arm of the government.
Starting point is 01:40:30 See, how did I put it? Deputized state. He's now broken with his fellow leftists to excoriate the mainstream news media for attacking independent journalists, including Matt Taibbi, Michael Schellenberger, who are exposing the government's attempts to crush freedom of speech on social media. Well, I need to take a break here. And before I go to break, look at that. We got Gard Goldsmith on Rockfin out of New Hampshire. Gard, you're not going to be able to see these candidates there. They're trying to get rid of New Hampshire.
Starting point is 01:41:03 It's too open and honest. Thank you so much for the tip card. I appreciate it. He says, David, you have so often been a powerful voice bringing folks closer to Christ. Well, I hope so. I have to tell you for the past 10 minutes, I've been writing a piece that refers to Cato the Elder and the Younger. Good. Yeah. Carthage must be destroyed, as I quote. This is just one of the moments that some might call a coincidence, but I see it as a powerful message reminding me a lot, but in particular to thank you and honor God. Well, thank you.
Starting point is 01:41:33 That's really kind. Thank you. And by the way, you can find him, Liberty Conspiracy, and Gard is on Substack. Got to get Gard on to talk. We haven't talked for a while. And if he's got time, I know he's so busy. I mean, he's doing MRCTV.
Starting point is 01:41:48 He's got Liberty Conspiracy. He's writing on Substack. He's got his plate full. But Gard, I'd like to get you on again soon. Okay, we're going to take a break, and we will be back. ¶¶ Thank you. Analyzing the globalist's next move. And now, The David Knight Show. Yeah, let's talk a little bit about just general news. And now, The David Knight Show. excited to see him in the debates. I'm not saying that I would vote for him because there's big moral issues that are the elephant in the room. Climate is also an elephant in the room, but I really did want to have him in the debates because again, he expresses himself very clearly
Starting point is 01:43:58 and comprehensively on many vital issues that will not be discussed, especially now without any debates. And so I thought it was very positive that he would be there because of the debate, so now they're going to shut that down. So what is it that we can do? Well, there's a couple of things here that I want to go over. There is a, before I do that, let's see rock finn um michael uh says i'd love to see rfk jr take the debate stage and crush it on a few issues yes his past position on climate change and the second amendment and other issues as a deal breaker my exactly uh on abortion on the
Starting point is 01:44:40 lgbt tranny shock troops and the rest of this stuff. There's many things that I think would be deal breakers. But I would love to see him talk about speech and censorship and the vaccine and CBDC and all these different things. So that's not going to happen. What is the path that we take? And I have said, you know, our salvation is only from God. We trust in God. God can, again, you know, he's anti-war.
Starting point is 01:45:11 That's a big thing, right? They're pushing that. They want to destroy us. But let's understand that the president cannot really necessarily stop that. There's a massive juggernaut, a massive amount of inertia in that juggernaut. Turn that ship of state around, God could do it. And so we put our trust in God, not in politicians, not in horses and chariots
Starting point is 01:45:42 or planes and bombers and nuclear subs or rockets or any of the rest of that stuff. But let's talk about what we can do, because we're not told to just passively sit here and watch things. In Louisiana, a resolution affirming state nullification has now been introduced. And, of course, there was one like that in Tennessee. Unfortunately, they did not make it through yet. Hopefully, it'll be done again.
Starting point is 01:46:08 But this is a resolution affirming, quote, the sovereign right of Louisiana to nullify unconstitutional acts by the federal government. It is sponsored by State Senator Stuart Cathay Jr., a Republican. The resolution begins by expounding on a proper view of the constitution and its limitations on government power rights, the new American.com specifically via the horizontal. That is between the three branches of government in the federal and the vertical, the states versus the federal government separation of powers.
Starting point is 01:46:39 That's the only thing about it. I didn't like to say horizontal and vertical is to imply that um somehow the federal government is above us it's not federal government is a creature of the states so if it's vertical then maybe they're below us i don't know but anyway that's the uh the way they talked about it the separation of powers in the federal government is based on the fact that sinful man could not be trusted to always be virtuous and public-minded. They don't quote in this resolution Madison who said, well, you know, because men are not angels, we have to have government to rule over us. But because, you know, men are not angels, he put them in government, who's going to control them
Starting point is 01:47:20 ultimately? Well, it has to be done by separation of powers. The thing that they were most concerned about was what they called consolidation. We call it concentration of power. And of course that has happened. Power is being concentrated into Washington. And then after it got concentrated into Washington, it gets concentrated into the executive branch and its bureaucracies, which are now ruling us by fiat.
Starting point is 01:47:46 So we have taxation without representation from these unelected, unaccountable bureaucracies, and we have regulation without representation. And we have no due process because they claim that their rules are not the same as laws, even though they treat them that way. But they say, well, because it's a rule and not a law, then you don't get any of the protection of presumption of innocence. You don't get due process. You don't have to be found guilty before we punish you.
Starting point is 01:48:12 And you don't have any protection against excessive punishments because, hey, it's being done by the bureaucracy, not by your elected representatives. Makes it all the more heinous, doesn't it? So whereas the principle of separation of powers has become increasingly disregarded in recent decades, as if the federal government were supreme in all areas and unlimited in its jurisdiction and so forth, and whether or not this shift was intentional or accidental, active or passive, it nevertheless finds no support in
Starting point is 01:48:43 the Constitution of the United States of America and the laws of the United States or the constitutions of any of the sovereign states and is an illegal usurpation of power and of the unalienable rights of the people. And so, again, it's a resolution. Now, the bill that was set up in Tennessee was very specific, saying it's not going to be any rule, any regulation, any court decision, any foreign treaty that is going to be implemented in Tennessee without a review of whether or not it is constitutional. That pretty much covered everything, so I'm hoping that that will come back. I need to get the guy on who introduced that. But let's talk about what this looks like when you take back government at the local level. That's what I've been encouraging people to do since 2020. I said,
Starting point is 01:49:33 all right, take a look at our long history of betrayals in both parties from these politicians who campaign, whether they're running for Congress or they're running for president, they tell you one thing, they do something completely different. And then we had the massive betrayal. And then we were able to see in 2020 that in some places the local government could exacerbate things or they could ameliorate things. It could be better, It could be worse. And so we see that the pandemic has galvanized people in one Michigan County and resulted in a complete change of government at the county level. And the Washington Post did a very long piece. I just referenced it yesterday, barely.
Starting point is 01:50:29 But I want to show you how they attack this. I want to show you what galvanized the people. And it was up on Drudge for a couple of days over the weekend. Again, a Washington Post story. What they do is they focus on, for once, the Washington Post is cheering the previous Republicans. Why? Well, because they laid down and let Whitmer have her way with people, right?
Starting point is 01:50:57 As she was being financed by Trump, and as Fauci and the rest of the Trump White House were rushing out the rules and Trump was signing the checks and Fauci and the rest of the Trump White House were rushing out the rules and Trump was signing the checks and Fauci was putting everybody down, they had people at the local level who were doing it. And so these people rightfully realized that they had to push back on it. And there is a strong current of Christianity in the people that put together this coalition to take back the government from the GOP establishment that Washington Post really hates and so what you're going to see here is the Washington Post attacking their
Starting point is 01:51:38 religious beliefs vilifying them lifting up LGBT as victims and as heroes because they're the shock troops and, um, and portraying these people as religious zealots, intolerant, hateful, and incompetent. Eight new members of the Ottawa County Board in Michigan,
Starting point is 01:52:07 ran for office promising to, quote, thwart tyranny in this lakeside Michigan community of 300,000 people. The new commissioners, all Republicans, swore their oaths of office on family Bibles. Imagine that. You know, they didn't use a Quran, or they didn't use as the NASA official. She swore herself in on a carl sagan book well see if carl sagan can save him save himself or you you know the guy who was absolutely clueless
Starting point is 01:52:35 anyway then the firings began they said gone was a lawyer who had represented ottawa county for 40 years gone was the county administrator who oversaw a staff of 1,800. To run the health department, they voted to install a service manager from a local HVAC company who had gained prominence as a critic of mask mandates. Sounds like an improvement to me. You know, you've got somebody in the public health department that's putting out mask mandates. Doesn't the Washington Post know, as we have pointed out, that it not only exacerbates the spread, it also exacerbates the health threats to you.
Starting point is 01:53:16 You respirate to smaller particles that go deeper. It creates CO2 concentration issues, deprives you of oxygen, makes people sick. You can see it literally on their face, trapping the waste that your body is trying to expel through your breath, creating acne on people's faces. You want to tell me that a public health department that mandates a mask doesn't need to be replaced? Yeah, this HVAC manager might be a breath of fresh air. Anyway, they said as the session entered its fourth hour, Sylvia Rodia, the board's new vice chair,
Starting point is 01:53:54 put forward a motion to change the motto of the county's website, which is also on their stationery, whereas the vision statement of the motto, where you belong has been used to promote the divisive Marxist ideology of race and equity movement. They wanted to change it to where freedom rings because say you don't belong to the state. You don't belong to the community.
Starting point is 01:54:19 You don't belong to the village. Anyway, they write Washington Washington Post says, in an era when Americans had never seen more divided and distrustful, county governments at their best had helped to define what remains of the common good. Well, maybe so, but that ended pretty much with the medical martial law. And as I said, the county governments can make it better or they can make it worse.
Starting point is 01:54:49 So, they wanted to start on this current motto. Where you belong versus where freedom rings. As this lady proposed the alternative, she said, we sought to unite county residents around America's true history as a, quote, land of systemic opportunity built on the Constitution, Christianity, and capitalism, where freedom rings. Well, I think that's a good start. Anyway, they said after this happened and their meeting happened, they said a cheer went up in the room. And so Washington Post is not happy about this. I want to talk about the aftermath.
Starting point is 01:55:30 They said on that morning, the room was about three quarters full, but the coming weeks, it would be packed with so many angry people calling each other fascists and communists, Christian nationalists and racists that the County would have to open an overflow room down the hall and that Washington Post would do a hit piece on them. Understand that you can do this and also understand there's going to be opposition.
Starting point is 01:55:55 And it isn't all going to be over when the election is over. You're going to have to stand behind these people that you elected to go do this job if you are able to get something like this done in the county level. And I think the important thing is to understand that they did this as a group. This was not just one individual coming in and saying, I really hate these vaccine mandates, and I want to make sure that doesn't ever happen again because one individual can't do anything about it. You're going to have to go in and change the county commissioners in mass and that's what they did
Starting point is 01:56:30 all but a couple of them were replaced and it had to be a coordinated thing and i've seen this used for evil in the rural county that we lived in in North Carolina. As I've said before, I've talked about this in the past, where you had people from liberal Chapel Hill, where the University of North Carolina is, you had people who worked there and lived in that very, very leftist community, started coming down into the county, and they wanted to change everything. And at the time, the county commissioners
Starting point is 01:57:09 were elected representing different geographical areas around the county. And most of the county was rural. It was run by farmers who'd had the farms in their homes for many generations. These people wanted to take it over, and so they got it changed to where there was an election at large. And it was narrowly passed, but that was their key. Once they changed it to everybody in the entire county, every voter in the county, votes for every person on the county commissioner level. That got rid, I usually talk about this in the context of the importance of the electoral college and the importance of keeping that geographical representation even at the state level, because otherwise you are going to be ruled by the big cities. And every state's got big cities.
Starting point is 01:58:05 If you're talking about Tennessee, big cities are Nashville and Memphis, and they're very, very leftist. And so if they get enough power and enough people, they can swamp the rest of the state. I've seen it happen in Virginia, many other places. In Texas, you wind up with Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio. They rule the otherwise conservative state. And, uh, so it's a very dangerous thing.
Starting point is 01:58:30 You want to keep that geographical distribution, which is what the electoral college was doing at the national level. Uh, but anyway, this all began, they said with a 37 year old guy named Joe Moss. So it made the condition of commissioners who were there, says Washington Post, traced their roots back to the county's early Dutch settlers from whom they inherited a Calvinist appreciation for thrift and moderation. This is the Washington Post praising GOP. They rarely spent more than a few hundred dollars on election campaigns,
Starting point is 01:59:02 and they took pride in the county's AAA bond rating, fiscal discipline, and low taxes. Under their leadership, Ottawa County prospered. It had one of the lowest unemployment rates in Michigan and since 2010 has been the fastest growing county in the state. Board meetings were civil, orderly, and until recently, sparsely attended. And now these people have come in and they have turned the world upside down for freedom. Imagine that. Imagine that. Everything was wonderful
Starting point is 01:59:33 until these extremists got mad about medical martial law. And that's exactly what happened. As a matter of fact, in their article, they show a picture of this. Somebody put up a giant syringe and said, it's not about your health. Yeah, that's what galvanized these people there. So then they start talking about the connection to churches so they can, uh, take that down, but it really is that syringe and that medical martial law.
Starting point is 02:00:15 Uh, one guy who was there for 12 years on the board, he said, nobody ever came to any of our meetings before COVID. Well, what happened? Well, medical martial law, you guys laid down and rolled over for all of these orders coming from Whitmer and from Trump Moss, the 37 year old who organized this and have it in a very different world than his predecessors, like so many rising leaders in the Republican party. His view of his country and his politics was shaped by his faith in his church, one of dozens of big evangelical congregations
Starting point is 02:00:49 that had taken root amid the county's sprawling farms and subdivisions. So then they go to one of the church services and write about it. They say people settled in their pews and they listened as their pastor warned of the, quote, many people, unquote, in the county who were, quote, trying to destroy everything that is righteous, good, and pure and holy. Yeah, we noticed. Yeah, Tucker noticed as well, right? Now, what is this agenda? You're saying that abortion is good? You're saying that mutilation of children is good and acceptable and we ought to be honored and celebrated and protected and all the rest of this stuff?
Starting point is 02:01:27 No, that's just pure evil. That's not politics. That's not a policy. You people have left your lane. You're not talking about how to fill the potholes or anything else. No, you're talking about how to destroy our lives, destroy our families, destroy parental rights, destroy children's minds, bodies, and souls. You are out of your lane, and you need to be put back in your place and or removed. Your job is to protect our rights.
Starting point is 02:02:03 We may have different opinions about how to do that. But if that's not your goal, if your goal is to destroy our rights, we will alter or abolish you. That's what needs to be understood. Anyway, this pastor says, these are the kinds of people who are demanding free condoms at school, gender fluidity books in the public library, and drag queen story hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:31 By his own admission, Moss had not paid much attention to local politics. He ran a small technology business focused on raising his children. In 2020, the Ottawa County Health Department learned of the coronavirus outbreak at his daughter's Christian school and ordered the school's leaders to comply with Whitmer's mask mandate. When they refused, state and county officials chained shut the school's doors for more than a week. And they warned parents that continued resistance could bring fines and imprisonment. Now, what is good is that the people here at this Ottawa County did something about it.
Starting point is 02:03:17 Most people took this stuff and now they're just relieved because, well, they got their boot off of our throat for a few minutes. Really? You don't think they're going to put it back on your throat? You don't think they're going to start stomping you in the face again? Now is the time we need to do something about this. I couldn't believe that Whitmer got reelected,
Starting point is 02:03:37 but at least these people took care of it at the local county level. Suddenly, Moss realized that those dangerous people that his pastor had been talking about on Sunday were not just in Washington. They weren't just in Lansing, the state capital. They were in West Olive where the county government was headquartered. In 2020, I became a threatened parent, he said. I was threatened specifically by Ottawa County. In 2021, he and Rodia formed the Ottawa Impact to recruit and raise money for local candidates who ran as a slate.
Starting point is 02:04:17 And that's what I'm saying. Running as a slate. I saw it done in the county that I lived in by the leftists. Turn that place into a hell. Well, but anyway, the, um, you can do it for good, right?
Starting point is 02:04:28 He saw evidence of this leftist campaign and the County health department's decision in the fall of 2021 to impose a school mask mandate on children who were still too young for the vaccine. About a thousand people, including Moss angrily protested the policy at a county board meeting. See, like the county commissioner said, nobody ever came to our meetings before COVID. Nobody ever came to the meetings before you started acting as medical dictators
Starting point is 02:04:58 and set up martial law. He saw it also in the $470,000 that local corporations had donated to jumpstart a county office of diversity, equity, and inclusion. You see? It's corporations. And it's even local corporations that are putting the money in there to create this DIE program. I call it diversity, inclusion, and equity. Put it in that order and you understand that's how societies die. These companies, which sold auto parts and office furniture worldwide,
Starting point is 02:05:37 so they're globalist corporations and their mind mentality, they hoped that the initiative would help to attract and retain global talent to a place that was more than 80% white and could sometimes seem unwelcoming to minorities. That's coming from the corporations. So $470,000 in this place there. Last November, county commissioners backed by Ottawa Impact won eight out of 11 seats on the county board. They were now in charge of a government that they feared.
Starting point is 02:06:12 Overseeing county employees they did not trust. Well, they feared them because they had an authoritarian push. And they didn't trust them because of what they had done. And so the rest of this article is about then what happens when they get in and try to take action, try to get rid of the people in charge of that public health. This is where the fight is, and this is what's going to happen in your local community when you get together with other like-minded people,
Starting point is 02:06:42 run a slate of county commissioners, take over the local government, and kick these people out. They're not going to go quietly. And you'll probably get a report done on you by the Washington Post. So be it, right? In late January, Moss came face-to-face with the head of a department that he saw as most responsible for trampling freedom. The 43-year-old who was in charge of the county's health department, named Adeline Hambly, had started with the county's health department 19 years earlier as a field septic inspector.
Starting point is 02:07:15 And then in 2020, she started slinging excrement at people herself. Why is somebody who was a septic inspector better qualified than somebody who worked on HVAC? That's what I would like to know. Um, quite frankly, I don't think so. Anyway, Moss and the new board wanted to make it clear that the Ottawa County board of commissioners had a very firm stance on mandates. They brought her in, said, uh, there will not be any mandates in ottawa county he told her and she came back and said well we do issue orders regularly as far as systems that have sewage on the ground he goes now i'm referring to the mandates regarding parental rights
Starting point is 02:08:01 and the once in a hundred pandemic, that kind of thing. Again, still got her head in the septic tank. And it hit the fan, didn't it, in 2020. Moss and the board's choice to run the county health department was an HVAC service manager with degrees from online university and no experience working in public health. So what? This woman had proved by her experience that she was not up for the job. And I don't care what degree she's got. Who cares about degrees? It's all about diversity,
Starting point is 02:08:39 inclusivity, and equity anymore. Anyway, they denigrate merit. They denigrate math. Math is racist. You want to talk to me about degrees? I don't care about your degrees. They're about as important as the ribbons that the Wizard of Oz was handing out to people at the end of the movie. So, Kelly had regularly pushed discredited COVID treatments, such as the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin. Well, clearly he knows a lot more about health than this person and or the Washington Post. So before Moss could install Kelly, however, he needed a reason to fire Hambly. And so they noticed that the health department was a sponsor of a local public university's sex education week, which included an event called Kinky Kara karaoke and also information about polyamory. I don't even know what that is.
Starting point is 02:09:29 I don't even really care. I'm assuming that it means many loves. No, I kind of like politics, many blood sucking parasites that you need to get out of there, especially the bureaucrats that have been there for 20 years or whatever this person was. Hambly's office issued a press release saying their role was limited to testing for sexually transmitted diseases. Well,
Starting point is 02:09:56 just let these people fear the consequences. Maybe that'll shut up some of this polyamory stuff. Hambly filed a lawsuit. This is the current public health director. Filed a lawsuit in state court accusing the board of micromanaging the department and of illegally attempting to dismiss her without cause. I don't know how micromanaging the department is a problem since she can't manage it. Washington Post, of course, takes her side.
Starting point is 02:10:21 She is the victim, the wronged person. It had been a difficult three years for Hambly and her team. Oh, really? We don't like telling everybody what to do. We don't like locking you down, shutting your schools, all the rest of this stuff. First came the pandemic, then the backlash over her mask mandate and the coronavirus vaccines, which led to death threats and a police car stationed in their parking lot. Now she's being demonized simply for doing their jobs.
Starting point is 02:10:52 Your job? No, your job. If your job is public health, you can't have public health without individual health, and you can't have individual health without doctor-patient relationship being at the top and unfettered. Hambly and her staff even stopped doing video conferences, worried that the new county administrator or even Moss might have the ability to secretly monitor them. Do you think anybody was worried about,
Starting point is 02:11:16 do you think that they were concerned about forcing everybody to stay home and do video conferences with their lockdowns? You think people might've been secretly monitoring us as they locked us down? You talk about projection and all of this stuff. It's absolutely amazing. Yeah. I'm sure they thought about that because, you know, that's what the government and the corporations wanted there.
Starting point is 02:11:40 A former teacher at a Christian school spoke, and so now what they do is they focus now on the LGBT versus the Christians aspect. That now is put at the center of the article by the Washington Post. They say, a former teacher at a Christian school spoke of how his commitment to biblical literalism had nearly led to his gay son's suicide. He assumed that even Jesus didn't love him, said the man. He had the pills lined up twice, ages 14 and 20. If he had committed suicide, I would have been complicit in his death. You see, Jesus doesn't save. Jesus kills people. What is this guy teaching him about Christianity?
Starting point is 02:12:24 Did you teach your son that Jesus, that God has a better plan for your life, that you'll be happier in the design that he had for your life? A man and a woman and children and a family? You didn't tell him that that would make him more fulfilled? You didn't tell him that no matter what he has done, Christ paid the penalty and there's grace and forgiveness. And not only that, but there is power to change your life. You didn't tell him that.
Starting point is 02:12:50 You let him sit there. You probably sent him to a psychologist, didn't you? Psychologist probably gave him the SSRI pills. I mean, he's got them lined up to take, commit suicide. Then they had an ordained, in that continuing of the Washington Post, an ordained minister in a pink down coat rose to speak a few minutes later. Again, it's the LGBT, the victimized LGBT against everybody else. She, the ordained minister, is a woman. She gripped both sides of the lectern and leaned toward the microphone and said, quote, I am sick to death of all this Jesus talk.
Starting point is 02:13:28 Well, then, lady, you are not a minister in any way, shape, or form. Yeah, I'm sick of all the Jesus talk, says the minister. Yeah, let's talk about genitals. Let's do that. That's going to help us, yeah. So they said, will the newborn have the authority to remove her for political rather than public health reasons is the issue.
Starting point is 02:13:49 And again, this is the basis of the lawsuit. And this is the one thing I would criticize about what these people have done. Look, attack her for the fact that the masks were wrong. Attack her for the fact that they, you know, did the lockdowns, all these. They've all been disproven.
Starting point is 02:14:08 You got the studies that other people have done for you now. We knew this from the beginning that it was nonsense. But now the studies are there. We can see how the vaccines were harmful. The masks were harmful. The lockdowns are harmful. The lockdowns are driving people to suicide. Washington Post isn't going to tell you that.
Starting point is 02:14:21 No. No. It's the Bible that drove her, his son to suicide. No. Anyway, the hero of the story, the public health director, Washington Post's hero says, I'm not a Democrat or Republican. I'm not a libertarian or any of those things. And your health officers shouldn't be, they should be following good science
Starting point is 02:14:43 and they should be protecting everyone in their community. Well, there you go. That's the basis to fire her right there, because she didn't do any of that. Earlier this month, though, the judge ruled that Hambly was properly appointed to the job and could only be removed if the new board could show how she was incompetent. That really should not be that hard, and that really is where they need to go. We're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, I want to talk about what happened with the SpaceX launch and some of the aftermath of that.
Starting point is 02:15:19 And when I say aftermath, I mean aftermath. We'll be right back. Thank you. You're listening to The David Knight Show. Okay, so it was on 420, and a lot of people had fun with that. They said, yeah, Musk lit a big one on 420 and blew up like an exploding cigar or joint, I guess. Did they do that? They have exploding joints like they do cigars? Maybe not.
Starting point is 02:16:32 Anyway, the craft was sent into a tailspin when they failed to have separation between the booster rockets and the Starship. The mission ended at about four minutes into it. And as they described it, it was rapid unscheduled disassembly. That's kind of Pentagon speak military speak for all this stuff. And, um, but they were cheering at the mission control because it got off the launch pad. That was a, so I guess, you know, if you success is how you define it, right?
Starting point is 02:17:06 Uh, some people are criticizing for him, him for it. Um, futurism says, um, that Elon's childish obsession with four 20 lead to today's starship explosion. Uh,
Starting point is 02:17:20 but, uh, I think more importantly is the fact that he rushed it out. And we'll see some of the consequences of that, not just in the thing, having a rapid, but, uh, I think more importantly is the fact that he rushed it out and we'll see some of the consequences of that. Not just in the thing, having a rapid, um, unplanned disassembly or whatever they call it. Uh, it was very big, huge. As a matter of fact, if you look at it, um, compared to the previous giant Saturn five rockets. Um, it was, uh, 394 feet.
Starting point is 02:17:47 The Saturn five rockets were 363 feet. So that's another, you know, 30 yards more. So instead of it being, uh, 30 feet more, instead of it being 110,
Starting point is 02:17:55 uh, meters, it was 120 meters. Or if you think of it in terms of football field, the Saturn five, if you lay it down on its side would be the full length of the football field. Plus one end zone, uh, the starship and the super heavy booster was, uh, would be, uh,
Starting point is 02:18:10 the football field plus both end zones. And, um, so, uh, the, um, you know, a little bit more so, and the amount of thrust that it had was quite a bit different. If you look at the Saturn Vs, they had 7.2 million pounds of thrust. But the Starship and the Super Heavy have 17 million. So 7.2 million versus 17 million. It's about two and a half times more. So it's pretty amazing. And it's not just about what happened in terms of the failure to separate. It's also what happened on the ground. Take a look
Starting point is 02:18:56 at this debris that hit a car that was parked quite a distance away from it. Look at this. Watch this. Look at that. Took out the back window and smashed that car and car that was parked quite a distance away from it. Look at this. Watch this. Look at that. Took out the back window and smashed that car and shook that car. Pretty amazing. I'll play that one more time. Take a look at this. Bam.
Starting point is 02:19:14 That whole car shakes, and a big piece of concrete, that could have killed anybody who was around there. And, of course, there's a lot of people who are very upset about what happened in the nearby town. In the close town, the city is annoyed when SpaceX launch coats it in a layer of grime. They said the locals here are just being sacrificed. So they said the most powerful rocket that's ever been built,
Starting point is 02:19:43 the massive forces from the takeoff heaved a colossal cloud of dust and debris that traveled for miles. And they said, uh, some of the local residents there, Port Isabel, uh, that, um, um, place where they launching it is Boca Chica, Texas, but at Port Isabel, they said that, um, which is only six miles away. They said buildings were shaken. One window was shattered. Residents were left stunned. One of them told the New York times it was truly terrifying. This was on a completely different level. They've been launching things there from the SpaceX, uh, pad, you know, satellites and things like that. But this is completely different level. A Port Isabel spokesperson said the whole city, quote, ended up with a covering of a
Starting point is 02:20:33 rather thick granular sand grain. And of course, the video of that car getting nailed by a piece of debris that I think could have killed somebody the way that smashed up the back of that car and shook it. There were bowling ball sized pieces of concrete that came flying out of the launch pad area. Said a YouTuber. And who also said that the launch created a crater that he estimated to be 25 feet deep. The New York Times talked to Eric Roche, an expert in environmental compliance. He said it's impossible to know whether the dust and the debris are harmful without a proper chemical analysis, but the fact that there's even dust at all,
Starting point is 02:21:19 he said, shows that SpaceX screwed up in its impact modeling, as this kind of aftermath was not really disclosed to the public, he said. As it turns out, the far-reaching aftermath of the Starship launch could have been avoided entirely, but SpaceX simply hadn't taken the necessary steps to do so. A decidedly callous move towards the people that live in the area. For sizable spaceports like Cape Canaveral and the Cosmodrome
Starting point is 02:21:50 that the Russians have, it is standard practice for big launches to have either a giant trench or what is known as a water deluge system which suppresses heat and sound waves both for the rocket's sake and for the purpose
Starting point is 02:22:07 of shielding the surrounding environment. But according to Roche, SpaceX opted to implement neither measure. It appears they just went ahead and just launched this thing. Well, you know, it was 420. We got to get it out by 420. And of course, do you really think that Elon Musk cares about anybody or anything other than what he's doing? I don't. As a matter of fact, I was truly amazed.
Starting point is 02:22:30 Another blessing from God that we did not know that he had bought large amounts of land for SpaceX offices, but also for the Boring Company and stuff like that. Not too far from where he lived in Texas. Very, very close, as a matter of fact. And bought a great deal of land there. And the neighbors are already concerned about some of the things that are being done during the construction phase of it. But we didn't know anything about that. We were able to get out of there before he took that area over.
Starting point is 02:22:59 So Starship's launch was tied up for a long time by the FAA. And when they finally gave space X, it's approval, it ruled that a starship launch would not significantly affect the quality of the human environment. We'll tell the people at Port Isabel who are covered in dust and rocks. Now, NASA space flight,
Starting point is 02:23:20 uh, a publication reports that the company will be installing a deluge system beneath the launch site for future launches. Because I guess they don't have to do them by 420 now. Depending on who you ask, SpaceX's Starship launch was either a spectacular failure or it was a rousing success. To some nearby residents on the ground, though it simply proved to be a potentially dangerous nuisance. The locals are here are just being sacrificed, said one person to the newspaper.
Starting point is 02:23:54 Let's talk about who's being sacrificed to who I mentioned before Biden's new plan to charge people more, a higher interest rate on their home loans if their credit score is high. And to charge people a lower rate if their credit score is low. In other words, to punish people. And that's exactly what's happening. It isn't like they said, okay, well, here's the current mortgage rate. Okay, and we'll give a discount to people if they have bad credit. Well, why would you do that? First of all, you're setting these people
Starting point is 02:24:29 up to be trapped, right? As the market is, the interest rates are going up and the housing market is people getting trapped in their homes, being underwater. So you're going to set these people up to get trapped? Is that what this is about? But why it'd be one thing if you left the mortgage rate there for the people who had good credit scores and then gave a discount to other people. But no, what they did was they raised the mortgage rate for people who had good scores. They want to, at the same time, they're discounting it for other people. This is coming from mishtalk.com. He said, the new rules on the mortgage rates were the better your score, the higher your effective interest rate.
Starting point is 02:25:13 This is an update. It said, under the new rules, high credit buyers with scores ranging from 680 to above 780 will see a spike in their mortgage costs with applicants who place 15 to 20% down payment experiencing the biggest increase in fees. So not only do they charge you more if you got good credit, but if you saved for your deposit as a down payment, if you save money for your down payment, you're penalized for that as well. So let's say let's, let's penalize people who are working hard, saving, trying to provide, we'll punish them and we'll reward the people who don't do anything when you want to talk about the, uh, the ant and the grasshopper thing.
Starting point is 02:26:01 It's a socialism. This is Biden's socialism. Fannie Mae has a matrix showing how they're going to adjust the price a loan level price adjustment matrix punish the people who are working hard and reward the people who are not someone with a credit score between 720 and 739 with a 20% to 25% down payment. It's going to go from an LLPA of a half a percent before May to one and a quarter percent, a three quarter point difference. Raise it.
Starting point is 02:26:41 The beneficiaries are those who have the worst credit ratings, a drop from 3.25% to 2.5% for someone with a credit score between 640 and 659 and a down payment of 20 to 25%. So he says you don't think that people are going to notice a 75 basis point jump, a penalty for your good credit and working hard and saving. So he says, you don't think that people are going to notice a 75 basis point jump? A penalty for your good credit and working hard and saving. Everyone with a credit score 680 and over is dinged.
Starting point is 02:27:19 And everybody with a credit score below 680 is a winner. So what is the average credit score in America? 710. So the average person is going score in America? 710. So the average person is going to get dinged by this. The people who are below average are going to get helped by it. So 710 is the average score, but 680 is the point where you go from winners to losers. And then the more, you know, the better your credit score, the bigger the loser you are. Experian notes that only 35% of consumers have a credit score below 680. So it's going to be the bottom 35% of people are going to get rewarded,
Starting point is 02:27:55 and the top 65% of people are going to get punished. That's Biden's America. This is a Pandora's box that once opened will usher in all sorts of nightmares, writes Adam Taggart on Twitter. Combine this with the recent California Dream for All home buying assistance program funded by taxpayers and the Marxist trend toward to each according to his need is becoming clearer and clearer. And so, uh, Steph Pomboy on Twitter says, uh, this rule imposes fees on home buyers with a high credit scores in order to subsidize access to lower quality credit. It's so obviously misguided and all uppercase dangerous. It makes you wonder what the real objective is here.
Starting point is 02:28:51 Why does Steph call it dangerous? Because now is the time to encourage stretched would-be homeowners to enter the market. It's almost as if they want to drown people in negative equity or maybe to further weaken the banking system to allow for a larger takeover. I'm honestly lost. Well, that may very well be it. To weaken the financial system. We're talking about, uh,
Starting point is 02:29:26 again, Gerald Salenti has been talking about commercial real estate and it's now really hitting home. And I talked about the fact last week, it's like $120 million default, this big, um, uh,
Starting point is 02:29:38 commercial real estate company in Washington, DC. I mean, if you can't sell Washington, if you can't sell office space in Washington, DC, might as well hang it up because, uh. I mean, if you can't sell Washington, if you can't sell office space in Washington, DC, you might as well hang it up because, uh, you know, that's where everything is growing. They may not have to go into work. Maybe they can work from home, but still the, the problem in California is even bigger. It was about three quarters of a billion dollars
Starting point is 02:30:04 that they lost there, not 120 some odd million, that same commercial real estate company. And so what happens is, you know, we talked about on Friday with Gerald Slinty, what happens when these big, very big commercial real estate companies go bankrupt? Well, again, it puts more stress on the banks and the financial markets. What happens when they incentivize people coming in who got very, very poor credit and punish people who've got good credit who can afford to buy the house? Well, again, if they get people in their negative equity, maybe they are setting the banking system up to fail.
Starting point is 02:30:40 You know that they set the banking system up to fail. Take a look at what the Federal Reserve did in terms of raising interest rates. You know, we've seen this once before, right before the 2008 Great Recession. You had the Federal Reserve at that point in time, every month they're going up 25 basis points, a quarter of a percent. And it's just like a little stair step going up. This time, they're taking big leaps and bounds every month, going up three times faster, 75 basis points. They've never raised interest rates that far that quickly. And what they did was they set up a trap for the banks who had bought in, had to buy in to the federal funds. I mean, they set it up and incentivized it, so they had to invest in these Fed funds and bonds and things like that.
Starting point is 02:31:32 They couldn't unload them quickly. The Treasury bills, they couldn't unload them quickly enough because they're raising it so fast. So they're doing this by design. They're trying to destroy ourselves. What kind of a policy is that? You're not trying to fix things. They're trying to destroy ourselves. What kind of a policy is that? You're not trying to fix things. You're trying to bust things.
Starting point is 02:31:49 So is the screw job on mortgage pricing even legal? He asks at Mish Talk. He says, yes, we have graduate income taxes, and that is legal. We also have adult prices versus kids' prices for numerous things. We have things like senior citizen days. But can we legally charge somebody more for a loaf of bread if they make too much money? Similarly, can we unjustly penalize people because their credit score is too good? Well, again, this is just all the stuff.
Starting point is 02:32:23 It's just another bonus for our overlords with their CBDC to eviscerate the middle class, all this stuff from Trump's, you're not essential stuff to this, to Biden doing this. And he points out that in California, you have the utility companies, as I mentioned, are going to start charging people, not on the amount of electricity that they use, but they're going to charge people based on their income. California utilities seek to charge people based on income, not energy usage. Monthly bills in California will include a fixed charge based on household income. This is nothing other than a Marxist agenda. So this will be a legal test,
Starting point is 02:33:10 but assuming that this bill passes, that's what their objective is. So we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, I want to talk about what is happening in Afghanistan, the Taliban, and that other reason that we were there for a long time. Lithium.
Starting point is 02:33:28 There's been some big developments in that as well. Joe, we've got a problem. What? Who are you? It's the new mug they're selling at thedavidknightshow.com, right? So, basically, a mug is something that holds liquid, right? Because basically you can't hold coffee with your hands, right? I'm a scat in the, but anyone tries to mug me, I'm be ready for it. You dog-faced pony soldier.
Starting point is 02:34:00 They say the mug can help patriots drink coffee, then save the world. This could be bad for us. Save the world? But we owe the world. These people, they're supporting free speech with every mug they buy. Come on. These people... I tell you... Well, anyway... You're listening to the david knight show
Starting point is 02:34:27 all right i want to thank mj on rockfin thank you very much for the tip i appreciate that and also in rockfin denver attaway the spacex launch equals success that's it that's what npr said no i'm not joking they just repeated what spacex told them to say well. That's it. That's what NPR said. No, I'm not joking. They just repeated what SpaceX told them to say. Well, yeah, that's it. You know, they said if we can get off the launch pad, that's a success. So it doesn't matter how much money. And have you heard anybody talk about the climate footprint of this?
Starting point is 02:35:00 You know, Elon Musk has made a lot of his money off of pushing the green agenda. A lot of money pushing that everywhere, electric cars and stuff. Why doesn't anybody complain about the footprint of this thing? We're talking about 17 million pounds of thrust. That's a lot of gases. How much carbon dioxide is that? How much are the rest of the stuff? Oh, of course, that's special.
Starting point is 02:35:23 That doesn't apply. We just had over the weekend, people who were in northern latitudes saw this blue spiral up in the sky. And they said, what is that? This is, I think, the second time I've seen this. And what it was is something that was being jettisoned from one of the SpaceX satellite launches.
Starting point is 02:35:44 It was some fuel that was jettisoned from one of the SpaceX satellite launches. It was some fuel that was jettisoned out and it froze as they put it out, but it was gigantic. And because of, you know, physics involved, it came out as big spiral arm, you know, so that was the thing that was really amazing about it. It wasn't just this big blue thing up there, but it was this spiraling arms coming out from a center uh nobody cares about that nobody cares about the environmental impact of that or the launches or the missiles in ukraine nobody cares about any of that stuff so let's talk about what's going on with the Taliban. How were they doing after all that money we left behind for them and weapons and all the rest of the stuff? Well, now China is offering them $ 1,000 metric tons of lithium. And so that's a pretty big haul there.
Starting point is 02:37:01 It's pretty hard to disguise that, I guess, but they busted him on that. And, uh, so that was a couple of months ago. And so now, um, since they figured they can't, uh, just load it up on the truck and steal it that way, China has offered the Taliban $10 billion and is proposing to build strategic infrastructure, you know, part of the Belt and Road Initiative. But just consider how different this is. As Gerald Sunti has pointed out many times, you look at what does the American government do anymore? Well, they go in and they dominate with war, kind of a neo-colonialism.
Starting point is 02:37:43 The Chinese are going around, even though this belt and road initiative in many cases has been an infrastructure and debt trap for these people. They go in and say, well, we're going to build this for you. And here's a great price on it. They go into debt and it doesn't work. Uh, so, you know, it's not like the Chinese are good guys or anything, but they're going to be a lot more successful if they go into places and partner with people and at least say that they're going to build infrastructure, whether or not it works or not,
Starting point is 02:38:11 rather than what we do, which is to go into an area, bomb, kill people and occupy it by force. That's our approach to all of this. As Gerald says, you know, the,
Starting point is 02:38:24 the business of America is war and the business of China is business. And that's a big difference right now. Of course, that's going to change, uh, as they move, by the way, um, if you want to subscribe to a trends journal, um, and it is an excellent publication. I highly recommend it. It puts a lot of work into that tremendous It's a tremendous amount of information in it. But he'll give you 10% off of a subscription if you use the code KNIGHT.
Starting point is 02:38:54 And again, tells them that you're coming from us. So when you look at this, I think it is kind of interesting how history goes. We know, we had the opium wars. China was very upset about that. You know, they said the British were smuggling opium in, using it to oppress their population and everything. Look at how the tables have turned. Now the Chinese are sending us fentanyl. The Chinese are getting access to Afghanistan
Starting point is 02:39:26 where they have the opium fields and everything, but they're really there for the lithium. And I think that was one of the reasons why we had the Pentagon saying, well, we're going to be there for 20 years. We had no plans of ever leaving Afghanistan. So they didn't plan to leave. They were thrown out. But when you look at, they said one analyst
Starting point is 02:39:44 who was with the Americans in Afghanistan says, uh, geopolitically, this deal could give China a significant advantage and influence the region as it secures a supply of critical resources and strengthens its presence in Afghanistan. So this person Sadat is not happy about what the Chinese are doing because he was with the Americans. Afghanistan's lithium reserves potentially rival those of Bolivia, which has the world's most significant amount of lithium resources. It'll provide direct employment to 120,000 people and indirectly to 1 million people. Whoa, this could have a big impact on how you're going to keep these guys on the opium farm when, you know, growing poppies,
Starting point is 02:40:33 when they could go spend their lives choking on lithium dust or something in a lithium mine, right? Why didn't the U.S. think of this? Why didn't the U.S. just go this? Why didn't the U.S. just, oh, we got to keep them out there growing the poppies for the opium because, you know, that's all they do for a living. And, you know, it never occurred to them that they'd just give them money to not grow it. I mean, we've been since the time of FDR, we've been paying people to not grow corn or whatever, right? This is a Supreme Court case challenging Fdr's new deal and all the rest of that stuff by the way that's one of the other things that i didn't talk about that bothered me
Starting point is 02:41:11 about rfk juniors um speech uh he is a democrat and he was saying yeah we need to get back to the days of fdr and it's like stop right there stop right there the whole right there. The whole idea. And it was taken up to the Supreme court and the Supreme court overthrew it. Uh, the guy said, you can't tell me what I can grow and the prices that I can charge for this stuff. I'm not shipping it across state lines. You don't have any jurisdiction here.
Starting point is 02:41:37 And he was absolutely right. But the Supreme court overruled and sided with FDR. They said, no, even if you grow your corn and you sell your corn internally, well, that's still covered by the Commerce Clause because that's going to affect the price of corn everywhere. And they use that as a legal prevarication to say they can regulate drugs, marijuana, and all the rest of this stuff. Well, they don't have any jurisdiction to do that. They
Starting point is 02:42:00 don't have any constitutional authority to do that. And we know they don't because even at the time of FDR and the rest of these people, they realized that they needed to have a constitutional amendment to prohibit alcohol and another one to bring it back, the 18th and the 21st amendment. So that was a legal prevarication if there ever was one. Anyway, getting back to Afghanistan, the case of Afghanistan, the country is important for China because the land domain of the Belt and Road Initiative will pass through its region, and a peaceful Afghanistan will create favorable conditions for the Belt and Road Initiative to grow and to progress. You see, they would like to have economic progress. They'd like to have peace in that area. They would like to have the lithium.
Starting point is 02:42:44 What do we do? Again, we go in and we bomb and we kill and we steal. We're stealing oil in Syria. We occupied Syria and we're stealing oil. And of course, it only becomes an issue when a rocket comes in, injures some US soldiers and kills a contractor. And people say, that's outrageous. These Syrians just killed Americans. Why are the Americans there? Stealing the oil. The Taliban may view it as an opportunity to generate immediate revenue to fund their activities and to consolidate their power,
Starting point is 02:43:16 given their history of relying on various sources of illicit financing, such as drug trafficking, said Sadat. So are we talking about the Taliban? I forgot. Are we talking about the Taliban or the CIA? Illicit financing, drug trafficking. Isn't it the CIA? The CIA is a much bigger worldwide threat to everybody,
Starting point is 02:43:40 including Americans, than the Taliban is. Much bigger threat. Taliban didn't collapse those buildings. You know, the CIA probably wanted an excuse to go on to Afghanistan and start, you know, operating the poppy fields. I don't know if they had lithium on their mind or not.
Starting point is 02:43:57 Yeah. Lithium is of course, uh, the battery, uh, key thing in the battery. Now, uh,
Starting point is 02:44:03 it will not contribute to the overall socioeconomic development, he says, or to the stability of the country with certainty. This is what Sadat says, the guy who worked with the American government. But the U.S. occupation did that? We were there for 20 years. We left a mess for 20 years. Five Chinese companies have set up their representative offices in Afghanistan, and about 20 Chinese companies have made inquiries about lithium products.
Starting point is 02:44:33 China's two largest lithium miners have already examined the lithium mines in Afghanistan. And, of course, they're making moves in other areas as well. When you look at what is happening in South America, we've just had the Chilean president has announced that the nation's vast lithium industry will be brought under government control in an effort to boost the economy and protect the environment. Oh, of course. You know that the government does the best job of protecting the environment, right? Does it?
Starting point is 02:45:08 I don't think so. And, of course, this is, he says, future lithium contracts will only be issued as public-private partnerships. This is straight out of Davos. And this is the same with state control. This is the same kind of public-private partnership. You've got to have a partner and the government that you bribe. This is straight out of Davos.
Starting point is 02:45:37 This is fascism, corporate cronyism, corruption. That's what public-private partnerships are. And yet, it's presented as a virtue, as a way of getting things done. That's how we've got to do our roads now in Tennessee, according to Governor Lee. We've got to have public-private partnerships for toll roads. Really? Why? Public-private partnerships have always been corruption and crony capitalism.
Starting point is 02:46:01 It's no different in Tennessee than it is in Afghanistan. So they said, the best chance we have at transitioning to a sustainable and developed economy, and we can't afford to waste it, so we're going to have public-private partnership. This guy who's running Chile is just reading the script from Davos. So they said neighboring countries of what they call the lithium triangle, Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, the governments have been looking for greater public sector stake in the mining of the metals.
Starting point is 02:46:43 It's like these corrupt officials in New York. You've got to let me wet my beak here, you know? Just give me a little bit of money on the side, I'll let you in there. They call it stakeholder capitalism. Yeah, we're going to have a stake in the mining. Stakeholder capitalism, crony capitalism, economic fascism. It is the business model of the globalists. It's the business model of China. And, of course, in Central and South America, same thing.
Starting point is 02:47:08 It's happening there. And so we're turning over, you know, instead of people fighting for oil as much, they will be fighting now, I guess, for lithium in addition. Maybe not even instead of. And China, they are pushing very, very hard for EVs and their kind of eco-fascism. Domestic electric vehicle brands are driving change across the sector. They're actually, in China, they're serious about it. They're actually making some affordable, small, cheap electric cars because they're not regulating those things
Starting point is 02:47:46 out of existence. And when we talk about regulating things out of existence, the Biden administration has now taken a new unprecedented tact in terms of destroying our country and taking everything down. They've been going after I talked about how the so-called Environmental Protection Agency has really become the emissions prohibition agency. You know, that was their mission creep. You know, they began by saying we're going to focus on pollution. But now they're focused on prohibition. And now under the Biden administration, for the first time, the EPA is going to flex its muscle to shut down power plants because of emissions.
Starting point is 02:48:32 They've never done this before. And it's the EPA. We've got to kill the EPA before the EPA kills us. It is an existential fight to shut down this climate stuff. And again, that's why I can't support RFK Jr. He's totally involved in this stuff and it isn't going to slow down. It would probably accelerate underneath him. So the Biden administration is preparing major crackdowns on power plants. The new power plant rule
Starting point is 02:49:03 is quote the latest in President Biden's anti-fossil fuels agenda says an energy industry group they're finalizing a proposal because we don't write laws anymore we create an agency like the epa and they write the rules they put them out there and people get a chance to talk about it but you know they don't care what you have to say. And then what they will do is impose this on everybody. The proposal, which will soon be released by the Emissions Prohibition Agency, the EPA, is expected to require coal and natural gas fired power plants to cut or capture the vast majority of their carbon dioxide emissions in 2040. What are you going to do with it?
Starting point is 02:49:48 You can stick it in the ground. So the plants can't get it, right? If it's in the atmosphere, the little bit of CO2 that is there. And again, it is a very, very tiny amount, tiny fraction of 1% of the atmosphere is CO2.
Starting point is 02:50:00 And that includes all of our quote unquote manmade sources. Very, very tiny percentage. But it is vital for plants. That's what they survive on. It is not a pollutant. And we don't need, the environment does not need to be protected from CO2. The environment thrives on CO2. But they're going to sequester it. They're going to pump it into the ground to basically shut down the natural cycle there.
Starting point is 02:50:32 It is the first ever federal action to curb emissions from power plants. It is a power play by the Emissions Prohibition Agency, the EPA. So they said, we've been clear from the start that we will use all of our legally upheld tools grounded in decades-old bipartisan laws to address dangerous air pollution, they said. They must be shut down. Carthage must be destroyed. The EPA must be shut down. Carthage must be destroyed. The EPA must be destroyed. It is an existential threat to us. It doesn't matter if you get electric cars.
Starting point is 02:51:12 They're going to shut down the power grid, and that's been the plan all along. We're going to have electric cars that don't have as much of a range. You don't have the infrastructure. You don't have the charging infrastructure. But even more importantly, you're not going to have the capacity to put the juice out there to the chargers. And of course, you're not going to be able to afford these EVs. And even if you could afford
Starting point is 02:51:32 it, you're going to pay dearly for it because you're going to have to buy it from the Chinese and from our enemies. The whole thing is designed to take us down. CO2 is not pollution. It is not warming. Is there going to be anybody in the GOP who will oppose this, or will they just try to slow it down? The final rule will be, this rule is coming out, spring, they said, of this year, right now. They will promulgate, in that special, such a special, we will promulgate a final rule. Oh, I'm very impressed.
Starting point is 02:52:09 Now E pluribus unum, a final rule by summer 2024. There are no EPA regulations on the books limiting emissions from existing electric generating units. There are 3,393 fossil fuel-fired power plants nationwide. Oh, really? Fossil fuel, my behind. There is no shortage of this stuff. They tried that. The CIA was pushing all of that peak oil stuff.
Starting point is 02:52:37 And they pushed it really hard with the OPEC shutdown. And they're pushing it really hard with the Biden sanctions shutdown now. There's no such thing as peak oil you can get oil from any organic material it's not dinosaurs in the ground the majority of these uh power plants are natural gas those power plants generate more than 60 of the nation's electricity compared to 14 of electricity that is generated by wind and solar combined. Okay, so that remaining 26%. So 60% for natural gas, 14% for wind and solar. That means that coal and oil are another 26%.
Starting point is 02:53:25 And maybe nuclear is in that. I don't know if they excluded that. I think they were talking about the fossil fuel, quote-unquote, stuff. But nuclear could be hydro as well in that mix. The EPA data shows that the electric power sector accounts for about 25% of U.S. emissions, placing it behind only the transportation sector and slightly ahead of the industrial sector. Weren't we just told that agriculture is the big boo-boo out there? We've got to shut that down, right?
Starting point is 02:53:56 So we've got to shut down your food, shut down the way that you cook it. Oh, but now it's the power plants, whatever the, the MacGuffin or the monster of the week is we got to shut that down according to Biden. So we can't decide. Is it the transportation sector sector that's got to go first or the food sector or the industrial sector, or maybe the power generation sector? Let's just shut them all down i just can't decide let's shut everything down democrat lawmakers argue that the emissions must be reduced in an effort to stave off cataclysmic climate change says fox news without any pushback oh well yeah they say so i guess it's true yeah biden pledged to enable the nation to achieve an up to 52 percent total
Starting point is 02:54:47 emission reduction by 2030 and to create a carbon pollution free power sector by 2035 again would rfkj oppose this i don't think so and um you know when we uh look at what fox may become is fox going to get rid of all their commentators so they don't get any lawsuits or anything? If they do, you can expect their quote-unquote objective news to just blindly quote without any commentary or opposition what the EPA is saying, what the Democrats are saying. Just regurgitate it, because that's fair and open, right?
Starting point is 02:55:24 So they do have a hearing on Capitol Hill with the EPA. And as the Epoch Times points out, senators question the feasibility of the EPA's new vehicle emission standards. Because, again, they have ramped them up to the highest level ever with the intention of shutting down all cars with internal combustion engines. Now, that was just last week. So now this week, we've got a new target. This week, we come after the power stations that you thought you're going to run your electric cars off of, right?
Starting point is 02:55:56 So the EPA is very excited. They told the senators that they predict that this new regulation that they have is going to lead to the mass adoption of electric light and medium duty vehicles within a decade. How do they know? Do they have a design for how they're going to make this feasible? How are they going to produce these things at an affordable cost? How are they going to get the materials to do all this stuff? They don't care. They think that they can change the world with their rules. They can't change the world. They can't make stuff out of nothing, but they can destroy what you've got. That's what makes them dangerous.
Starting point is 02:56:35 That's what makes them an existential threat. And the person who was leading this subcommittee chair, none other than Ed Markey, who, when he was a Congressman 10 years ago, 12 years ago, no, let's say 11 years ago, 2012, Ed Markey and Lisa Jackson, who was then the head of the EPA under Obama, who got kicked out because she was using aliases on her email to secretly communicate with people and get around the
Starting point is 02:57:05 transparency laws and stuff but she and ed markey had worked up this little dog and pony thing where they said uh we got to shut down fine particulate matter 2.5 2.5 nanometers and and uh bigger and um more people are dying from this congressman mar, that are dying from cancer and heart disease. Or even COVID, right? That's the usual thing. More people are dying from COVID than from heart attacks or cancer. More people are dying from fine particulate matter, from diesel and from fireplaces and things like that. We've got to shut all this stuff down. And so they set up right there where I was.
Starting point is 02:57:42 They set up in Research Triangle Park with the big EPA facility there. They set up an experiment. They looked for people who had heart issues and respiratory issues, and they literally hooked them up to a tailpipe and gave them diesel particulate matter. They took out the carbon monoxide so they didn't kill them outright and then hooked them up so they could show how dangerous this stuff was. And Markey was doing that as a congressman.
Starting point is 02:58:13 Now they have promoted him to a senator and they put him in charge of this committee where they're still shoveling the excrement for the EPA. Strong proposed regulations are critical, he said, to driving climate progress forward. But they are more doable than ever, thanks to the billions in clean vehicle investments passed by Congress, he said. Got a little bit of pushback from two Republicans,
Starting point is 02:58:37 Senator Cynthia Loomis from Wyoming and Kevin Cramer from North Dakota. They expressed skepticism. Oh, it must have been withering criticism, right? Are you kidding me? You expressed skepticism, not outrage about this? Loomis asked one key witness, said, well, what about the tailpipe emissions?
Starting point is 02:59:03 That's not the only thing that's out there. You know, there are greenhouse emissions from the mining that is needed and from the transportation of these rare earth minerals from places that we don't have any control over. So they had Kathy Harris of the national resources defense council said, well, there've been many studies that have shown that electric vehicles today from well well to wheel, are still cleaner than compared to gasoline vehicles. Well, not true. As a matter of fact, India is allowed to have unregulated power plants.
Starting point is 02:59:35 Why is that? Why is China allowed to build as many power plants with no regulations on them as the EPA shuts ours down? It's so bad in India that if you have a car that gets 36 miles per gallon, somewhere in the mid-30s, that it is cleaner than electric car runoff of their factories because their electric production
Starting point is 02:59:57 is so unregulated. And that's part of the Paris Climate Accord. And so here's the problem, see. If you've got people like Cynthia Loomis, who is going to say, you know, try these types of things. If you play by their game. Well, wait a minute. Aren't the emissions worse on EVs than they are on, you know, or equivalent or whatever? Don't play that game. Don't argue with them about how many unicorn farts fit on the head of a pen.
Starting point is 03:00:23 If you do that, you're going to lose. You got to hit them head on. You got to say, CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is also not warming the earth. End of story. So why are you shutting down our transportation and our power generation and our food production and our industry all at the same time over this fantasy. Instead, you get questions like this.
Starting point is 03:00:48 You know, well, do any of these countries have anywhere near the stringent environmental regulations that the United States has? Well, Harris says to the senator, I can't really speak to that. Not to my awareness. Well, whoop-dee-doo, you scored a little bit of a point there. What difference does that make? Is that going to save us from these people? Then Kevin Cramer, North Dakota,
Starting point is 03:01:09 questioned another witness. Boyle is a co-president of the trucking company, Boyle Transportation. He was brought in as a witness that was going to be hostile to these EPA regulations, trucking company. It earlier testified to the risks of a rapid push for electric-powered trucks because of their current technological limitations.
Starting point is 03:01:31 He said a clean diesel truck can spend 15 minutes fueling anywhere in the country and then have a range of about 1,200 miles before fueling again. In contrast, today's long-haul battery electric trucks have a range of 150 to maybe 330 miles and can take up to 10 hours to charge and so then he asked him about the cost of insurance of a large electric truck you know maybe for fire or something like that look we know all of these things stop playing the game of the climate mcguffin and that's one of the things that's dangerous about rfk jr he plays that game he literally believes that game.
Starting point is 03:02:05 He wanted to lock people up who denied that it's a problem. People like me. Maybe he's learned. I don't know. I haven't heard him address it. Well, that's it for today's show. Thank you for listening. Joe, we've got a problem.
Starting point is 03:02:19 What? Who are you? It's the new mug they're selling at thedavidknightshow.com, right? So, basically, a mug is something that holds liquid, right? Because basically you can't hold coffee with your hands, right? I'm a eschatonite, but anyone tries to mug me, I'm be ready for it. You dog-faced pony soldier. They say the mug can help patriots drink coffee, then save the world. This could be bad for us. Save the world? But we owe the world. These people,
Starting point is 03:03:05 they're supporting free speech with every month they buy. Come on. These people... I tell you... Well, anyway... You're listening to The David Knight Show.

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